From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #1549 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Friday, July 6 2001 Volume 02 : Number 1549 In this issue: Re: [CANSLIM] Weekly Scan Re: [CANSLIM] HGS Investor vs. IBD Re: [CANSLIM] HGS Investor vs. IBD Re: [CANSLIM] HGS Investor vs. IBD ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 19:47:57 -0400 From: "William Nelson" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Weekly Scan This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C10654.8E29AD00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How do I open the attachment? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David Squires=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 3:42 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] Weekly Scan - ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C10654.8E29AD00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Subject: [CANSLIM] Weekly = Scan

- ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C10654.8E29AD00-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 19:51:36 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HGS Investor vs. IBD This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C10655.11698780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ron, As to who's standard, simple answer: William O'Neil If you are practicing (or trying to practice) CANSLIM, then you start = with authentic data from WON, whether that is DGO, DG, or IBD. If you = are practicing HGS, and just mining CANSLIM (and this group) for further = ideas or reinforcement of HGS picks, then obviously you would have = different standards. I am also sorry your first post on this CANSLIM board has a caustic tone = to it. I would have preferred you post on some stocks you found using = HGSI that also meet quality CANSLIM assessments, and were in a watch / = ready to buy pattern. Other members using HGS seem to be able to do with = without a commercial appeal for HGSI. I didn't find Gene's post either belittling or ignoring HGSI, nor did I = feel he was pontificating. What I got from it was that his group of = friends found they got better value elsewhere, in part because the group = ranking differed so much. Beauty, and value, is in the eye (and wallet) = of the beholder. BTW, I found both MOVI and BASI in plenty of time to still catch them in = their base before the breakout. And I wasn't using HGS methods or = software, there's a lot more than one way to skin a cat (or find = profits). Tom Worley stkguru@netside.net AIM: TexWorley ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ron Brown=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 10:54 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] HGS Investor vs. IBD Gene, =20 We had a private discussion several months ago about IRL and you = indicated that you were not happy with it, so if you remember correctly, = I told you to wait for HGS Investor to be released. As you know, it has = been released, and if you are not taking advantage of its power, you = should be. =20 =20 Since I am a member of the HGS Consortium, I thought I would try to = enlighten the membership of the CANSLIM board to the advantages of using = HGS Investor in conjunction with IBD. I subscribe to IBD, and read it = everyday, but I do not use it for group and stock selection. I don't = have time. I use IBD to look for trends and for new ideas. =20 First, your assumption that IBD's Rankings are the standard may be = erroneous. Whose standards? Mine? Yours?=20 Does IBD let you set any standards, ranking choices, or limit the type = of stocks you wish to analyze? =20 =20 My parameters for index rankings using HGS Investor are: =20 =20 Equal Dollar Weighted so no stock places undue weight on a ranking.=20 Stocks with a minimum price of $5 and trading at least 40,000 shares = per day based on a 50 DMA.=20 =20 I rank my groups or indexes comprised of stocks in the groups using = Ian Slow which is based on 25 weeks of data, with 70% of the weighting = on the most recent twelve weeks. Ian Slow gives a group a chance to = "prove" itself, but is also sensitive enough to locate groups on the = move. For example, the Leisure Gaming Group turned green on March 16th, = and since then has added over 58% in 75 trading days. See the attached = gif. =20 I did a little better than the group. I caught ALLY at $12 and rode = it to $35 plus change based on HGSI's index turning green, then by = finding ALLY by stepping my way down from the index to the individual = stocks to analyze the chart, and the fundamentals. ALLY had a nice = return for me of close to 200% in 70 trading days. =20 =20 How about the Retail-Misc Index? Did you find a winners in that group = that turned green on March 9th in HGSI, and is up over 56% since then, = and is still going strong. I bought MOVI at $8, and I still riding it; = it is up well over 100% in a matter of weeks. How about BASI in the = Health Services group? Are you on it on the breakout gap above $7? = These little jewels are tough to find in a newspaper, but not with HGS = Investor! I won't bore you with more examples. =20 My point is you can pontificate about the legitimacy of IBD's rankings = superiority, but unless you are making serious money from these = rankings, they don't mean a thing. =20 I am having one of my best trading years ever due to HGS Investor's = Top Down Investing tools. =20 HGS Investor is a tool for serious investors, and if you continue to = belittle and ignore HGSI, you and your friends who smugly decided you = "get what you pay for", are missing out on a great opportunity to make = serious money in a bad market environment. Maybe I should post the = verbatim quote from a stock broker who said he has never made money as = easily as he is now since he starting using IRL, the program you hate. = He just got his hands on HGSI. Or how about a quote one of our users = who manages 8 Billion dollars for a large financial institution, who = favorably compares HGS Investor to software the bank leases for $65,000 = annually for securities analysis. He uses HGSI as one of his primary = investment tools. Let's see, $65,000 vs. approximately $600 annually. = Hmmm. =20 One more thing, QP2 uses Market Guide, or Multex as its data source. = The quote below is from the May 14th edition of IBD. Evidently IBD does = not have a problem with Market Guide's data like you do. =20 "If you're interested in building your own screens from scratch, a = number of Web sites can help. A good one is Multex.com's Market Guide at = marketguide.com." =20 I'm sorry my first post on the CANSLIM board has a caustic tone to = it, but I am very tired of this invalid argument. To each his own, but = if you aren't making good money in good markets and bad, you need to = re-evaluate your tools. If you have $49 bucks to spare, give HGS = Investor a try. It a totally new program written from the ground up. = By the way, I am getting a lot more than I paid for with HGS Investor. =20 =20 Any comments are welcome. =20 =20 Sincerely, =20 Ron =20 Ron Brown rbrown@acton.com - ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C10655.11698780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Ron,

As to who's standard, simple answer: William=20 O'Neil

If you are practicing (or trying to practice) = CANSLIM, then=20 you start with authentic data from WON, whether that is DGO, DG, or IBD. = If you=20 are practicing HGS, and just mining CANSLIM (and this group) for further = ideas=20 or reinforcement of HGS picks, then obviously you would have different=20 standards.

I am also sorry your first post on this CANSLIM = board has a=20 caustic tone to it. I would have preferred you post on some stocks you = found=20 using HGSI that also meet quality CANSLIM assessments, and were in a = watch /=20 ready to buy pattern. Other members using HGS seem to be able to do with = without=20 a commercial appeal for HGSI.

I didn't find Gene's post either belittling or = ignoring HGSI,=20 nor did I feel he was pontificating. What I got from it was that his = group of=20 friends found they got better value elsewhere, in part because the group = ranking=20 differed so much. Beauty, and value, is in the eye (and wallet) of the=20 beholder.

BTW, I found both MOVI and BASI in plenty of time to = still=20 catch them in their base before the breakout. And I wasn't using HGS = methods or=20 software, there's a lot more than one way to skin a cat (or find=20 profits).

Tom Worley
stkguru@netside.net
AIM:=20 TexWorley

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Ron = Brown

To: canslim@lists.xmission.com =

Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 = 10:54=20 PM

Subject: [CANSLIM] HGS Investor = vs.=20 IBD

Gene,

We had a private discussion several months ago = about IRL=20 and you indicated that you were not happy with it, so if you remember=20 correctly, I told you to wait for HGS Investor to be released. = As you=20 know, it has been released, and if you are not taking advantage of its = power,=20 you should be.

Since I am a member of the HGS Consortium, I = thought I=20 would try to enlighten the membership of the CANSLIM board to the = advantages=20 of using HGS Investor in conjunction with IBD. I subscribe to = IBD, and=20 read it everyday, but I do not use it for group and stock = selection. I=20 don't have time. I use IBD to look for trends and for new=20 ideas.

First, your assumption that IBD's = Rankings are=20 the standard may be erroneous. Whose = standards? =20 Mine? Yours?

Does IBD let you set any standards,=20 ranking choices, or limit the type of stocks you wish to=20 analyze?

My parameters for index rankings = using HGS=20 Investor are:

Equal Dollar Weighted so no stock places = undue=20 weight on a ranking.

Stocks with a minimum price of $5 and = trading=20 at least 40,000 shares per day based on a 50=20 DMA.

I rank my groups or indexes = comprised of=20 stocks in the groups using Ian Slow which is based on 25 weeks of = data, with=20 70% of the weighting on the most recent twelve weeks. Ian Slow = gives a=20 group a chance to "prove" itself, but is also sensitive enough to = locate=20 groups on the move. For example, the Leisure Gaming Group turned = green=20 on March 16th, and since then has added over 58% in 75 trading = days. See=20 the attached gif.

I did a little better than the group. I = caught=20 ALLY at $12 and rode it to $35 plus change based on HGSI's index = turning=20 green, then by finding ALLY by stepping my way down from the index to = the=20 individual stocks to analyze the chart, and the fundamentals. = ALLY had a=20 nice return for me of close to 200% in 70 trading=20 days.

How about the Retail-Misc Index? Did you = find a=20 winners in that group that turned green on March 9th in HGSI, and is = up over=20 56% since then, and is still going strong. I bought MOVI at = $8, and=20 I still riding it; it is up well over 100% in a matter of weeks. = How=20 about BASI in the Health Services group? Are you on it on the = breakout=20 gap above $7? These little jewels are tough to find in a = newspaper, but=20 not with HGS Investor! I won't bore you with more = examples.

My point is you can pontificate about the = legitimacy of=20 IBD's rankings superiority, but unless you are making serious = money=20 from these rankings, they don't mean a thing. =

I am having one of my best trading years ever = due to HGS=20 Investor's Top Down Investing tools.

HGS Investor is a tool for serious investors, = and if you=20 continue to belittle and ignore HGSI, you and your friends who smugly = decided=20 you "get what you pay for", are missing out on a great opportunity to=20 make serious money in a bad market environment. Maybe I = should post=20 the verbatim quote from a stock broker who said he has never made = money as=20 easily as he is now since he starting using IRL, the = program=20 you hate. He just got his hands on HGSI. Or how about a = quote one=20 of our users who manages 8 Billion dollars for a = large=20 financial institution, who favorably compares HGS Investor to software = the=20 bank leases for $65,000 annually for securities=20 analysis. He uses HGSI as one of his primary investment = tools. =20 Let's see, $65,000 vs. approximately $600 annually. = Hmmm.

One more thing, QP2 uses Market Guide, = or Multex as=20 its data source. The quote below is from the May 14th = edition=20 of IBD. Evidently IBD does not have a problem with Market = Guide's data=20 like you do.

"If you're interested in building your own screens from scratch, = a number=20 of Web sites can help. A good one is Multex.com's Market Guide = at=20 marketguide.com."

I'm sorry my first = post on the=20 CANSLIM board has a caustic tone to it, but I am very tired = of this=20 invalid argument. To each his own, but if you = aren't=20 making good money in good markets and bad, you need to re-evaluate = your=20 tools. If you have $49 bucks to spare, give HGS Investor a = try. It=20 a totally new program written from the ground up. By the way, I = am=20 getting a lot more than I paid for with HGS Investor. =20

Any comments are welcome.

Sincerely,

Ron

Ron Brown
rbrown@acton.com

- ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C10655.11698780-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 18:59:14 -0500 From: "Patti Curry" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HGS Investor vs. IBD This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00CE_01C1064D.BFEFD960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ron, this sounds very interesting. What is the address for the HGS = website? Is there a tutorial for using the site? Is it user friendly = or does one need to have previous computer knowledge of using this sort = of site? I don't imagine there is a group that meets in my area near = Ft.Smith, AR but how would I find out? Thanks, Patti ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ron Brown=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 9:54 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] HGS Investor vs. IBD Gene, =20 We had a private discussion several months ago about IRL and you = indicated that you were not happy with it, so if you remember correctly, = I told you to wait for HGS Investor to be released. As you know, it has = been released, and if you are not taking advantage of its power, you = should be. =20 =20 Since I am a member of the HGS Consortium, I thought I would try to = enlighten the membership of the CANSLIM board to the advantages of using = HGS Investor in conjunction with IBD. I subscribe to IBD, and read it = everyday, but I do not use it for group and stock selection. I don't = have time. I use IBD to look for trends and for new ideas. =20 First, your assumption that IBD's Rankings are the standard may be = erroneous. Whose standards? Mine? Yours?=20 Does IBD let you set any standards, ranking choices, or limit the type = of stocks you wish to analyze? =20 =20 My parameters for index rankings using HGS Investor are: =20 =20 Equal Dollar Weighted so no stock places undue weight on a ranking.=20 Stocks with a minimum price of $5 and trading at least 40,000 shares = per day based on a 50 DMA.=20 =20 I rank my groups or indexes comprised of stocks in the groups using = Ian Slow which is based on 25 weeks of data, with 70% of the weighting = on the most recent twelve weeks. Ian Slow gives a group a chance to = "prove" itself, but is also sensitive enough to locate groups on the = move. For example, the Leisure Gaming Group turned green on March 16th, = and since then has added over 58% in 75 trading days. See the attached = gif. =20 I did a little better than the group. I caught ALLY at $12 and rode = it to $35 plus change based on HGSI's index turning green, then by = finding ALLY by stepping my way down from the index to the individual = stocks to analyze the chart, and the fundamentals. ALLY had a nice = return for me of close to 200% in 70 trading days. =20 =20 How about the Retail-Misc Index? Did you find a winners in that group = that turned green on March 9th in HGSI, and is up over 56% since then, = and is still going strong. I bought MOVI at $8, and I still riding it; = it is up well over 100% in a matter of weeks. How about BASI in the = Health Services group? Are you on it on the breakout gap above $7? = These little jewels are tough to find in a newspaper, but not with HGS = Investor! I won't bore you with more examples. =20 My point is you can pontificate about the legitimacy of IBD's rankings = superiority, but unless you are making serious money from these = rankings, they don't mean a thing. =20 I am having one of my best trading years ever due to HGS Investor's = Top Down Investing tools. =20 HGS Investor is a tool for serious investors, and if you continue to = belittle and ignore HGSI, you and your friends who smugly decided you = "get what you pay for", are missing out on a great opportunity to make = serious money in a bad market environment. Maybe I should post the = verbatim quote from a stock broker who said he has never made money as = easily as he is now since he starting using IRL, the program you hate. = He just got his hands on HGSI. Or how about a quote one of our users = who manages 8 Billion dollars for a large financial institution, who = favorably compares HGS Investor to software the bank leases for $65,000 = annually for securities analysis. He uses HGSI as one of his primary = investment tools. Let's see, $65,000 vs. approximately $600 annually. = Hmmm. =20 One more thing, QP2 uses Market Guide, or Multex as its data source. = The quote below is from the May 14th edition of IBD. Evidently IBD does = not have a problem with Market Guide's data like you do. =20 "If you're interested in building your own screens from scratch, a = number of Web sites can help. A good one is Multex.com's Market Guide at = marketguide.com." =20 I'm sorry my first post on the CANSLIM board has a caustic tone to = it, but I am very tired of this invalid argument. To each his own, but = if you aren't making good money in good markets and bad, you need to = re-evaluate your tools. If you have $49 bucks to spare, give HGS = Investor a try. It a totally new program written from the ground up. = By the way, I am getting a lot more than I paid for with HGS Investor. =20 =20 Any comments are welcome. =20 =20 Sincerely, =20 Ron =20 Ron Brown rbrown@acton.com - ------=_NextPart_000_00CE_01C1064D.BFEFD960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ron, this sounds very = interesting. What is=20 the address for the HGS website? Is there a tutorial for = using the=20 site? Is it user friendly or does one need to = have previous=20 computer knowledge of using this sort of site? I don't = imagine there=20 is a group that meets in my area near Ft.Smith, AR but how would I find=20 out?

Thanks, Patti

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Ron = Brown

To: canslim@lists.xmission.com =

Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 = 9:54=20 PM