From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #201 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Tuesday, April 21 1998 Volume 02 : Number 201 In this issue: RE: [CANSLIM] Intro: Larry Horn Re: [CANSLIM] IBM Re: [CANSLIM] IBM Re: [CANSLIM] Some additions to my watch list Re: [CANSLIM] EAT, ZOMX (was Some additions to my watch list) [CANSLIM] Book [CANSLIM] Re: Carlos [CANSLIM] Charting Software. RE: [CANSLIM] institutional ownership Re: [CANSLIM] My Entire Watch List [CANSLIM] AVEI MF Re: [CANSLIM] institutional ownership [CANSLIM] ZOMX [CANSLIM] PUBO Re: [CANSLIM] ZOMX Re: [CANSLIM] PUBO Re: [CANSLIM] IBM Re: [CANSLIM] OVID Re: [CANSLIM] APCO Re: [CANSLIM] APCO [CANSLIM] DELL might breakout today, getting close! Re: [CANSLIM] EAT, ZOMX (was Some additions to my watch list) [CANSLIM] NEWP ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 04:00:31 GMT From: musicant@autobahn.org (Dan Musicant) Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Intro: Larry Horn On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 00:45:00 -0400, Larry Horn wrote: Hello Everyone, I have subscribed to the digest since early February and would like to introduce myself. I am a psychiatry resident at Duke University Medical Center in Durham, NC and I am new to investing in stocks. I read HTMMIS 2 years ago and have recently been rereading parts of it. I use the charts at BigCharts, I subscribe to IBD, and I have my brokerage accounts at Waterhouse. Waterhouse is a little bit (1.5x or $12/trade) more expensive than other online brokers but most of my money is in mutual funds and they have a fair number of no transaction fee funds. I have appreciated learning from the members over the past few months. =20 I would like some feedback on my screening process as I think it is too restrictive on some elements. I start with IBD's Friday "Your Weekend Review" which I'm sure most of you know about. It lists all stocks above $7, within 15% of 52 wk high, and with EPS and RS greater than 85. It ranks them by group strength. It also lists a mutual fund that owns each stock. I'm not sure how they decide which mutual fund to list but I think they list the one with the best 36 month performance. - - - - - - ----> I am subscribed to IBD, but haven't checked out this feature on =46ridays, though I believe I've heard about it. I'm a busy person, too, as I'm sure you are. - - - - - With that in hand, I pick the ones with A/D=3DA or B (which is conveniently listed on the same table), Group Strength=3DA (For that, I refer back and forth to the main stock tables until I find where the cutoff between A and B is. Remember the whole table is organized by group strength.), and finally I pick the ones that have a fund owning it with a rank of A- or better (top 15% of mutual funds over past 36 months). That usually gives me 120-140 stocks and they don't change much from week to week. But that is still too many for me to think about and it only covers CA SLI. Well if you count being within 15% of its 52 week high, then maybe we can say it covers N also. =20 - - - - - - ---> I don't know about the last sentence. N is not so much about being near a new high as having new product, service and/or management. It's a good sign if is within a few % of new high, though. - - - - - To weed this number down to a more manageable size, I head off to Yahoo! and enter them all in at the same time. Then I check the profile on each of them to check shares outstanding and float, and I get rid of ones with float greater than 30 (That was the number that IBD suggested on a tape "Investing to Win" which describes CANSLIM and came with my subscription). I then calculate %Management like this (shares outstanding-float)/shares outstanding. I hope that is the correct formula, it seems like it should be. Sometimes the number I get is different than that reported in IBD and when I checked further, Yahoo! had different numbers for the float. I think they are not as up to date as IBD. I then get rid of companies with %Management < 15% or > 50% (Those are also numbers that were recommended on that same tape). So, that gives me more S information and leaves me with about 60-70 stocks. - - - - - - ----> I think you should be more open minded about your float percentages. Even 5% insider holdings (though small) doesn't mean a stock won't perform. I'm holding LEN right now, which has been a big mover and has less than 2.5% insider holdings, if I can believe what I see at DG Online. I think your methodology is to take a lot of stocks and pare them down with restrictive criteria. You have to do this somewhat, but if you wind up with a dozen stocks you don't have a lot to choose from unless you like to hold promising stocks instead of buying off a base at a pivot point in a breakout (which is CANSLIM buying).=20 - - - - - I then head off to Waterhouse to look at the S&P sheets on these companies to find out the %Owned by Institutions. I keep those with less than 30% but more than 5% (The 30% was also recommended on that tape but for the low number, he just said "some", 1 or 2% sponsorship which seems a little low). The last thing I do (well actually I do it before checking %Institutions so I don't have to look up as many companies at Waterhouse) is not CANSLIM but I did get it from IBD's Investor's Corner. Return On Equity >15. I don't recall anyone mentioning ROE so I am interested in hearing if I am wasting my time with this number or what. This whole process takes about 2-3 hours and leaves me with less than a handful of stocks. If anyone is interested, I can post all of these stocks in a table on a web page starting with the 120-130 stocks, but I won't waste that much space here. I will just list the ones that pass all of the screens. >From here, I guess I just watch the volume and price to see if I can figure a good time to buy. I'm looking forward to trying to use Connie's tools to help me figure that out instead of just volume and price. Since I started this in February or March, the only ones that have come up are TMBS, ANLT, BVF, APCO, FTIC, SOSS, CVB and CBR. This process I use seems too restrictive. Right now the only ones on it are: Co PE A/D EPS RS Fund SHR FLT %Mgmt ROE %Instit=09 ISCA 41 A 87 92 A+ 39 20 48% 15.2 6=09 MVBI 25 B 88 88 A+ 9.6 6.3 34% 18 9=09 TMBS 24 B 99 95 A 7 4.9 30% 42.8 13=09 ADV 17 A 92 87 A+ 8.9 6 32% 15.5 20 Of those, TMBS is the only one which has a chart that looks like it's worth buying now, as far as I can tell. I actually bought it for 14 9/16 on 2/5/98 when I thought it was breaking out. I plan on selling the next time the 7-line crosses below the 10-line (EMA). I don't know what to make of the MF on TMBS but I don't think it looks good. It goes up sharply, then down sharply and doesn't really seem to track the price well. Even worse, the last few days have shown a negative divergence if I understand that concept properly. Larry - - - - - - ----> You bought TMBS the day before I did, and got a much better price. On 2/6/98 I got it at 16 1/8. I don't understand "negative divergence" (is this a pick up of volume when the price drops?), but I feel that TMBS is hard to read. I've seen much discussion of the resistance at 18, and won't be surprised if it is not really breached this time around. However, I feel that this won't necessarily be so. However, I find it hard to be as optimistic about the stock as I would be if I just looked at the chart. I think the chart looks great. Somehow, I'm not nearly as hopeful as I think I would be if I was just a chartreader on this one. I read your strategy to mean that you will sell when it trends down. I've been thinking similarly. Dan =20 - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 04:08:13 GMT From: musicant@autobahn.org (Dan Musicant) Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBM You mean 111-ish, no doubt. Yea, I don't know. I just saw the report on PBS. I never know what these things mean. Lots of times CO's report lower earnings, but if it beats estimates, the result is positive. However, my impression from the report (I know, it WAS on TV), was one of some foreboding. Did the stock really climb in after hours trading? Or was that pre-close trading? I believe the report on/by IBM was after hours.=20 Obviously, IBM's report doesn't have the clout of an Intel. I guess people figure, as Intel goes, so goes the sector. IBM? Not. Dan On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 20:26:28 -0700, you wrote: :AFAIK IBM announced EPS a penny under estimates at about 3PM eastern and :dropped immediately but wound up +3 on the day at 121-ish.=20 : :At 03:11 AM 4/21/98 GMT, you wrote: :>A note: Tech stock owners and buyers take note that IBM posted poor :>quarterly results after hours today (Monday) -- their PC sales were :>well down, I believe. Could be a down day on the Nasdaq Tuesday. :> :>Dan : :Tim Fisher, 1995 President, Pacific Fishery Biologists :Ore-ROCK-On Rockhounding Web Site :PFB Information :tfish@spiritone.com :WWW http://www.spiritone.com/~tfish -- See naked fish and rocks! : : :- - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 00:21:23 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBM FWIW, NASDAQ100 futures at 12:15AM east coast time are up two pts, which doesn't suggest a selloff on tech stocks at this time. Tom W - -----Original Message----- From: Dan Musicant To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Date: Tuesday, April 21, 1998 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBM You mean 111-ish, no doubt. Yea, I don't know. I just saw the report on PBS. I never know what these things mean. Lots of times CO's report lower earnings, but if it beats estimates, the result is positive. However, my impression from the report (I know, it WAS on TV), was one of some foreboding. Did the stock really climb in after hours trading? Or was that pre-close trading? I believe the report on/by IBM was after hours. Obviously, IBM's report doesn't have the clout of an Intel. I guess people figure, as Intel goes, so goes the sector. IBM? Not. Dan On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 20:26:28 -0700, you wrote: :At 03:11 AM 4/21/98 GMT, you wrote: :>A note: Tech stock owners and buyers take note that IBM posted poor :>quarterly results after hours today (Monday) -- their PC sales were :>well down, I believe. Could be a down day on the Nasdaq Tuesday. :> :>Dan : - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 23:41:07 -0400 From: "James Adams" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Some additions to my watch list From: Tom Worley EATS, TTILF, MTON, ACAM, BOYD Tom, did you see the after the bell Quarterly Report on EATS..They reported great numbers. I assume they will gap up at the open. Also, ZOMX, which I tried to get back into today, report a knock-out quarter after the bell. I doubt if I can get in tomorrow before it runs up. My bad luck. The bid was 19 and the ask was 19 3/8. I put in a buy for 1000 @ 19 1/8 and didn't get it. I thought it would pull back some but didnt'..... James Adams......................Maysville, KY USA http://www.cris.com/~jimadams/ Internet Pager 1343361@pager.mirabilis.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 00:40:34 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EAT, ZOMX (was Some additions to my watch list) I hadn't seen the news, but will try to review later or tomorrow before the open. I was coincidentally just looking at some of my old favorites, ZOMX included, this evening and had noted the move up today so was already on my list to try and watch closely tomorrow. Tom W - -----Original Message----- From: James Adams To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Date: Tuesday, April 21, 1998 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Some additions to my watch list > >From: Tom Worley >EATS, TTILF, MTON, ACAM, BOYD > >Tom, did you see the after the bell Quarterly Report on EATS..They >reported great numbers. I assume they will gap up at the open. >Also, ZOMX, which I tried to get back into today, report a knock-out quarter >after the bell. >I doubt if I can get in tomorrow before it runs up. My bad luck. The bid was >19 and the ask was 19 3/8. I put in a buy for 1000 @ 19 1/8 and didn't get >it. I thought it would pull back some but didnt'..... > >James Adams......................Maysville, KY USA >http://www.cris.com/~jimadams/ >Internet Pager 1343361@pager.mirabilis.com > > >- > - - ------------------------------ Date: 27 Feb 98 14:10:40 From: Les Collins Subject: [CANSLIM] Book This is the preamble of an RFC-1341 encoded, mixed message. - ---- next item ---- Content-Type: Text/Plain Can someone recommend a good book(s) on interest rates, monetary policy, yield curve, inflation and currency relationships? Particularly one that gave some historical analysis of these relationships, and how they effected stock and bond prices. Thanks. - ---- next item ---- Content-Type:Text/Plain; Name="ATT01"
Can someone recommend a good book(s) on interest rates, monetary policy, yield curve, inflation and currency relationships?  Particularly one that gave some historical analysis of these relationships, and how they effected stock and bond prices.  Thanks.
- ---- next item ------ - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:02:18 -0700 (PDT) From: dbphoenix Subject: [CANSLIM] Re: Carlos <> I don't know your criteria for selection or the timeframe you're interested in, so I can only give blind advice. This stock had no CS buypoint anywhere near where you bought it. You were, in effect, chasing it. Therefore, there's virtually no support above 30.5. A decline in price on decreased volume isn't a negative, but that doesn't necessarily make it a positive, either. If the stock doesn't recover from here, it will violate a short-term trendline and either move sideways or retrace. Given the lack of support, if I owned it and it retraced to 33.75, I'd call myself fortunate and sell without hesitation. One question you must ask yourself is whether you want to buy low and sell high, or buy high and sell higher. Few investors tackle this question and they wind up making some very expensive mistakes. If you want to buy low and sell high, you never should have bought this stock in the first place. If you want to buy high and sell higher, and are aware of and don't object to the risks inherent in this tactic, keep your stops tight and make sure they are in place with your broker. - --Db _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:59:56 -0700 From: budfox2 Subject: [CANSLIM] Charting Software. Hello, I interested in either SuperCharts 4.0 or MetaStock 6.5. Can anyone tell me which one is better? Thanks. Vince - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 23:08:23 -0700 From: Mike Lucero Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] institutional ownership Here's an example comparing Quotes Plus institutional ownership with Daily Graphs Online fund%. I was trying to get fund ownership from institutional ownership, but I don't see much of a correlation. (Note that total institutional ownership would be fund, banks, and insurance companies. If you try to add up the numbers available in DGO, you'd have to guess at insurance company ownership, and still the numbers wouldn't match. DGO just says they think their numbers are best.) Mike QP DG Inst Fund% ASMLF 0 11 ABF 95 32 ALK 95 18 ACF 89 16 BBY 62 17 BSX 52 18 CELL 79 41 CNI 55 30 EMC 83 27 ELN 80 59 ETEC 95 32 GLBL 65 41 INTL 60 14 FEET 56 24 LOW 73 30 MAST 32 17 MCRL 66 54 MON 79 51 On Sunday, April 19, 1998 8:53 PM, Mike Lucero [SMTP:mikelu@foxinternet.net] wrote: > A problem with Institutional Ownership I've seen from Quotes Plus and > Microsoft Investor is that they don't match the numbers from Daily Graphs. > They don't break down the number so you can find out how much are owned by > funds. which is the most important number. > > Does anyone know how often Daily Graphs fund ownership numbers are updated? > They seem to change pretty often, but the description seems to say the data > comes from the mutual funds quarterly. Don't the funds only have to report > what they owned at the end of the previous quarter? Wouldn't that make the > data at least 90 days old? If that's the way it works, I'm not sure how > useful the numbers would be. This worries me a little, because I'm > screening out stocks with too much fund ownership. > > Mike > > > On Sunday, April 19, 1998 12:50 PM, Lucy Barnett [SMTP:BarnettL@nwrel.org] > wrote: > > > > http://www.wsrn.com/home/companyResearch.html > > > > When you enter a stock symbol a page will appear with links to many > > sources of information for the company you are researching. > > Look for the heading: "Research, Reports & Summaries" and click on > > "QuickSource: Description & Stats." At the bottom of this page you will > > find the % of shares held by institutions. This site has loads of info > > on stocks. Can't vouch for up-to-datedness (is that a word?) or > > accuracy. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Joan Sherman [SMTP:joani@mindspring.com] > > > Sent: Sunday, April 19, 1998 11:04 AM > > > To: Canslim > > > Subject: [CANSLIM] institutionnal ownership > > > > > > Does anyone have a web site that indicates institutional ownership for > > > listed stocks? > > > TIA > > > > > > > > > Joan Sherman, /\~~~/\ /\~~~/\ /\~/\ /\~/\ > > > ** ** ** ** > > > Help Support Animal Rescue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:52:17 +0000 From: Peter Christiansen Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] My Entire Watch List Thanks Dan. I'm glad you found it interesting. I will likely buy ITDS today. At 03:11 AM 4/21/98 +0000, you wrote: >Very impressive. ASTX passed the pivot today (barely), so is still >"buyable". Volume wasn't breakout type, but the move was over 6%. Has >been a lot of discussion of it and knowing posters here have avowed >great interest. > >ITDS, GRS of 98, still looks pretty good to me. Thanks, Peter. Got a >whole portfolio in my Yahoo watching these. The pivots below look >pretty faultless, far as I've seen, and I've given a dozen or so a >look. > >A note: Tech stock owners and buyers take note that IBM posted poor >quarterly results after hours today (Monday) -- their PC sales were >well down, I believe. Could be a down day on the Nasdaq Tuesday. > >Dan > >On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:16:01 +0000, you wrote: > >:Here is my current watch list, including potential pivot points. There >:are quite a few interesting charts here. Enjoy. Hope the formatting is ok. >: >:aatt 36.625 >:accc 55.625 >:accs 40.125 >:ammb 38.125 >:ans 29.625 >:apex 32.125 >:asf 44.125 >:astsf 52.375 >:astx 17.125 >:csgs 49.625 >:csli 18.625 >:ctxs 57.6250 >:dell 72.125 >:faf 69.125 >:haz 40.5 >:hrly 15.125 >:imp 34.125 >:intl 28.625 >:itds 29.125 >:ldry 31.75 >:lson 39.125 >:medi 58.375 >:metz 34.125 >:mth 20.5 >:mtic 18.125 >:ndn 40.125 >:nsit 43.125 >:qlgc 42.125 >:ssd 43.125 >:sut 43.125 >:tklc 49.5 >:uvn 42.125 >:vii 12.125 >: >: >:Peter Christiansen >:Chiang Mai - Thailand >: >:- > > >- > Peter Christiansen Chiang Mai - Thailand - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 06:53:40 -0400 From: Jeffry White <"postwhit@sover.net"@sover.net> Subject: [CANSLIM] AVEI MF Anindo wrote: > Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:34:20 -0700 (PDT) > From: Anindo Majumdar > Subject: [CANSLIM] What does your OBV/MF analysis tell you about AVEI > > What does OBV/MF tell you about AVEI ? They had a blowout quarter but since > then has been going down. > > Anindo Not Connie Mack's BC MF which is a relatively simple indicator, but a more complex MF calculation suggests AVEI is topping a list of negative MF within the entire market. It's one of my better shorts I think, BTW. Also, interesting, in light of it's meteoric three day double, turning the float several times in the process is SEEK's negative MF at this site: http://www.trading-ideas.com/mflow.htm Regards Jeffry - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 08:04:23 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] institutional ownership Remember that DG counts institutional percentages differently than most other sites. DG shows management as a percent of the total issue, but funds, banks percent as a percent of the float. Most other sites are likely to show these also as a percent of the total issue. That's one of the difficulties in making comparisons. In addition, because the data is not reported frequently, a lot can also depend on how quickly each site updates their database. Finally, there can be major changes during the course of a single quarter. It is for all these reasons that I place little decision making weight on institutional holdings. I have no problem buying a small cap with zero institutional holdings and 60% management when the CS elements are strong and the chart looks good. I figure sooner or later the funds will discover it, typically starting with the small cap funds, altho I would prefer that there be a couple percent ownership since fund mgrs talk to each other. On the other hand, I will pass on a stock with 35 or 40% fund ownership as I feel it's more likely to not get sig increased institutional buying, but rather the risk is of funds starting to either simply take profits, or bailing out if they see a problem (which with their staff they will probably spot sooner than I can). Tom W - -----Original Message----- From: Mike Lucero To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com' Date: Tuesday, April 21, 1998 2:09 AM Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] institutional ownership >Here's an example comparing Quotes Plus institutional ownership with Daily >Graphs Online fund%. I was trying to get fund ownership from institutional >ownership, but I don't see much of a correlation. (Note that total >institutional ownership would be fund, banks, and insurance companies. If >you try to add up the numbers available in DGO, you'd have to guess at >insurance company ownership, and still the numbers wouldn't match. DGO just >says they think their numbers are best.) > >Mike > - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 08:50:25 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: [CANSLIM] ZOMX A word of caution on ZOMX's earnings reported yesterday. They reported 13 cents vs 7 cents, however this was a result of restating the 1997 results on a "pro forma" basis as if three acquisitions made in Feb 1998 had been a part of the company a year prior. They originally reported the Mar 1997 qtr as a 27 cent profit. I find this a highly questionable accounting procedure to restate earnings a year prior to actual acquisition. I doubt they will actually change the 1997 results, but rather are now presenting them differently to provide comparable year to year comparisons, and to use the loss carryforwards from the acquired cos to offset past profits generated by ZOMX in the past, thereby reducing actual taxes. May be legal, may be correct, I'm not an accountant. But for any shareholders expecting them to beat 27 cents, they may not find 13 cents adequate. Tom W - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 01:10:20 +1200 From: "Dean Edwards" Subject: [CANSLIM] PUBO This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_015D_01BD6D8B.6B95C0E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would like opinions PUBO =20 EPS 88 RS 91 Shares 3.1M Accumulation A PE 6 Funds 20% My own opinion:=20 The negative is the volume which is low to non existent=20 Average volume 1,400 Volume last 14,900 The positive is the book value or the cash per share the company is = sitting on: Book Value per share $11.71 =20 Earnings (ttm) $1.37 =20 Sales (ttm) $13.34 =20 Cash per share $9.72 =20 =20 52-Week Low $7.75 =20 Recent Price $15.25=20 52-Week High $15.50 =20 =20 - ------=_NextPart_000_015D_01BD6D8B.6B95C0E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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- ------=_NextPart_000_015D_01BD6D8B.6B95C0E0-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 09:10:43 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] ZOMX I must be on drugs this morning, and I'm sure my PC is as it is being real cranky. Went back and looked at the DG chart. A year ago they reported 6 cents profit on $5.4 mil in revenues. This year they reported for Q1 a profit of 14 cents on 14.2 mil in rev. Thus it looks like they are not trying a tax shelter, but simply trying to show comparable data. Still, I don't understand it and will discuss with an accountant friend. What I was apparently thinking of was the 23 cents they netted in Q4, which may have led shareholders to expect even more. Ok, I'm confused, haven't had any coffee in three weeks, what do you want? Tom W - -----Original Message----- From: Tom Worley To: CANSLIM Date: Tuesday, April 21, 1998 8:57 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] ZOMX >A word of caution on ZOMX's earnings reported yesterday. They reported >13 cents vs 7 cents, however this was a result of restating the 1997 >results on a "pro forma" basis as if three acquisitions made in Feb >1998 had been a part of the company a year prior. They originally >reported the Mar 1997 qtr as a 27 cent profit. I find this a highly >questionable accounting procedure to restate earnings a year prior to >actual acquisition. I doubt they will actually change the 1997 >results, but rather are now presenting them differently to provide >comparable year to year comparisons, and to use the loss carryforwards >from the acquired cos to offset past profits generated by ZOMX in the >past, thereby reducing actual taxes. May be legal, may be correct, I'm >not an accountant. But for any shareholders expecting them to beat 27 >cents, they may not find 13 cents adequate. > >Tom W > > > >- > - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 09:21:09 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] PUBO Looks interesting, altho I pay little if any attention to book value, sales/share etc. I also note they had a non-recurring event in Q4 which appears to have skewed earnings substantially higher, thus the trailing PE is liable to be inaccurate. As to ADV, the issue is only 3.1 mil, don't know what the float is, but funds reported already owning 20% of that. Thus you may only have 500K to 800K shares actually freely trading, so an ADV of 1400 doesn't strike me as unusual. It does mean a severe lack of liquidity, however. If a lot of the new buyers over the past two weeks decide to bail, it could quickly drop back to $12. Tom W - -----Original Message----- From: Dean Edwards To: canslim@mail.xmission.com Date: Tuesday, April 21, 1998 9:08 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] PUBO I would like opinions PUBO EPS 88 RS 91 Shares 3.1M Accumulation A PE 6 Funds 20% My own opinion: The negative is the volume which is low to non existent Average volume 1,400 Volume last 14,900 The positive is the book value or the cash per share the company is sitting on: Book Value per share $11.71 Earnings (ttm) $1.37 Sales (ttm) $13.34 Cash per share $9.72 52-Week Low $7.75 Recent Price $15.25 52-Week High $15.50 - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 13:30:52 GMT From: musicant@autobahn.org (Dan Musicant) Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBM Right you are, Tom. And the Nasdaq CME futures contracts at market open point very sharply up. Dan On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 00:21:23 -0400, you wrote: :FWIW, NASDAQ100 futures at 12:15AM east coast time are up two pts, :which doesn't suggest a selloff on tech stocks at this time. : :Tom W : :-----Original Message----- :From: Dan Musicant :To: canslim@lists.xmission.com :Date: Tuesday, April 21, 1998 12:06 AM :Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBM : : :You mean 111-ish, no doubt. Yea, I don't know. I just saw the report :on PBS. I never know what these things mean. Lots of times CO's report :lower earnings, but if it beats estimates, the result is positive. :However, my impression from the report (I know, it WAS on TV), was one :of some foreboding. Did the stock really climb in after hours trading? :Or was that pre-close trading? I believe the report on/by IBM was :after hours. : :Obviously, IBM's report doesn't have the clout of an Intel. I guess :people figure, as Intel goes, so goes the sector. IBM? Not. : :Dan : :On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 20:26:28 -0700, you wrote: : ::At 03:11 AM 4/21/98 GMT, you wrote: ::>A note: Tech stock owners and buyers take note that IBM posted poor ::>quarterly results after hours today (Monday) -- their PC sales were ::>well down, I believe. Could be a down day on the Nasdaq Tuesday. ::> ::>Dan :: : : : :- - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 06:41:24 -0700 From: Tim Fisher Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] OVID The data I have has insiders at 56% and institutions at 14%. Also they have done horribly the last 2 qtrs. Earnings deceleration that looks like they got flushed down the toilet is not something I'd buy into. At 10:58 PM 4/20/98 -0400, you wrote: >This one broke out today here's some info on OVID. I would like to find out >if the rumors that institutions have been gobbling this one up the past are >true. > >Close: 20 1/2; Change +1 1/2 (+7.89%) Prev Cls >Volume 51,000 ADV 35,409 >Day's Range 18 7/8 - 20 1/2 Bid 20 Ask 20 1/2 >52-week Range 7 - 20 > >IBD EPS=8 (ouch); RS-95; Acc/Dis =A >MF & OBV uptrending; Vol/Accumulation=positive buying; >March 10 - Upgraded by Hambrecht & Quist >Next Earnings Announcement: April 24, 1998 > > Zacks Consensus Moderate Buy > Qtr EPS Estimate NA FY EPS Estimate $0.47 > P/E on FY EPS Est. 40.90 > Dividend Yield 0.00% > Market Cap 116.0 Mil > Shares Outstanding 6.1 Mil > Daily Vol (13 wk avg) 38,700.0 > Institutional Ownership 16.90% > Beta 1.8 > Short Interest Shares 6,730 > >Companies with Competing Products : >Access Health CompuServe Dataware Technologies >Excalibur Technologies Fulcrum Technologies Healtheon >Infonautics OneSource Primark Prodigy Reed Elsevier Telescan >Verity > >Industry:COMP-SERVICES >Ranked 41 of 101 > >James Adams......................Maysville, KY USA >http://www.cris.com/~jimadams/ >Internet Pager 1343361@pager.mirabilis.com > Tim Fisher, 1995 President, Pacific Fishery Biologists Ore-ROCK-On Rockhounding Web Site PFB Information tfish@spiritone.com WWW http://www.spiritone.com/~tfish -- See naked fish and rocks! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 06:41:22 -0700 From: Tim Fisher Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] APCO Hmmm, insiders 15% institutions 16%, NO debt, 18% ROI, looks like a winner. No history (must have went public 5 qtrs ago?) so it doesn't make my scan, guess I pay the price for using a freebie database. At 11:26 PM 4/20/98 -0400, you wrote: >APCO Automobile Protection Corportation > >IBD #s 88/98/A >OBV/MF Positively following latest price increases. >Zacks Recommendation = Strong Buy 1.0 >Next Earnings (Approx.): 24-Apr-98 >Earnings Estimates Qtr(3/98) Qtr(6/98) FY(12/98) FY(12/99) >Average Estimate $0.08 $0.11 $0.42 $0.51 >Year Ago EPS $0.05 $0.08 $0.34 $0.42 >Growth Rate 53.33% 37.50% 22.55% 22.40% >Zack's Industry: BUSINESS SERVI > >P/E 39.80 Market Cap. 151.5 Mil # Shares Out. 10.9 Mil >Dividend/Share 0.00 Exchange NASDAQ > > >James Adams......................Maysville, KY USA >http://www.cris.com/~jimadams/ >Internet Pager 1343361@pager.mirabilis.com > > >- > > > Tim Fisher, 1995 President, Pacific Fishery Biologists Ore-ROCK-On Rockhounding Web Site PFB Information tfish@spiritone.com WWW http://www.spiritone.com/~tfish -- See naked fish and rocks! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 09:45:27 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] APCO Nah, they've been public for years, went thru a period where they were a real penny stock, don't recall if they were ever delisted from NASDAQ or not, or if they may have done a reverse split to maintain listing. Not a company I trust because of the business they're in (automotive extended warranties), I got burned by a competitor who was doing the same kind of cute accounting that eventually got APCO burned. Tom W - -----Original Message----- From: Tim Fisher To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Date: Tuesday, April 21, 1998 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] APCO >Hmmm, insiders 15% institutions 16%, NO debt, 18% ROI, looks like a winner. >No history (must have went public 5 qtrs ago?) so it doesn't make my scan, >guess I pay the price for using a freebie database. > >At 11:26 PM 4/20/98 -0400, you wrote: >>APCO Automobile Protection Corportation >> >>IBD #s 88/98/A >>OBV/MF Positively following latest price increases. >>Zacks Recommendation = Strong Buy 1.0 >>Next Earnings (Approx.): 24-Apr-98 >>Earnings Estimates Qtr(3/98) Qtr(6/98) FY(12/98) FY(12/99) >>Average Estimate $0.08 $0.11 $0.42 $0.51 >>Year Ago EPS $0.05 $0.08 $0.34 $0.42 >>Growth Rate 53.33% 37.50% 22.55% 22.40% >>Zack's Industry: BUSINESS SERVI >> >>P/E 39.80 Market Cap. 151.5 Mil # Shares Out. 10.9 Mil >>Dividend/Share 0.00 Exchange NASDAQ >> >> >>James Adams......................Maysville, KY USA >>http://www.cris.com/~jimadams/ >>Internet Pager 1343361@pager.mirabilis.com >> >> >>- >> >> >> >Tim Fisher, 1995 President, Pacific Fishery Biologists >Ore-ROCK-On Rockhounding Web Site >PFB Information >tfish@spiritone.com >WWW http://www.spiritone.com/~tfish -- See naked fish and rocks! > > >- > - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:45:31 +0200 From: Johan Van Houtven Subject: [CANSLIM] DELL might breakout today, getting close! DELL 71 3/4 x 71 7/8 on nice vol at the opening. - --- Johan Van Houtven - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:22:09 -0400 From: "James Adams" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EAT, ZOMX (was Some additions to my watch list) Tom, apparently the market wasn't crazy about ZOMX's report. Down 5/8 on better than average volumn. James Adams......................Maysville, KY USA http://www.cris.com/~jimadams/ Internet Pager 1343361@pager.mirabilis.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:20:46 -0400 From: "James Adams" Subject: [CANSLIM] NEWP Anyone following NEWP (Newport Corporation)? 95/85/A Reported good earnings and revenue yesterday. They appear to be attempting to break out of a short base. At 10:20 EDT 20-20 1/8, up 1.00, vol 50% of ADV James Adams......................Maysville, KY USA http://www.cris.com/~jimadams/ Internet Pager 1343361@pager.mirabilis.com - - ------------------------------ End of canslim-digest V2 #201 ***************************** To unsubscribe to canslim-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe canslim-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
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