From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #2399 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Saturday, May 4 2002 Volume 02 : Number 2399 In this issue: Re: [CANSLIM] MWRK, microcaps, charts [CANSLIM] IBD website question? Re: [CANSLIM] IBD website question? Re: [CANSLIM] IBD website question? [CANSLIM] UOPX Re: [CANSLIM] UOPX RS trend was RE: [CANSLIM] CANSLIm Evaluator Updates Re: [CANSLIM] UOPX Re: [CANSLIM] UOPX Re: [CANSLIM] IBD website question? Re: [CANSLIM] UOPX Re: [CANSLIM] UOPX ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 12:08:46 -0500 From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] MWRK, microcaps, charts This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C1F364.7121BC40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jerry, I use a combination of DGO and Vectorvest for all my mining and = candidate selection. Between those 2 tools, I'm able to spot stocks well = before they become well-known names and appear in the IBD. I don't use = any of the free screeners available on the web because the results are = too limiting. My own approach is to look at bare minimum requirements = for forward growth rate, price, ADV, 50/200 day moving averages, A/D and = RS. From there I sort and filter for the fundamental requirements, group = strength, etc. My preference is to weight the values for each of these = rather than eliminating candidates based on specific minimums. That = means my "universe" of CANLSIM candidates runs about 700-800 at any one = time. I use current technical strength to draw my eye, then sort based = on the preponderance of evidence for all other things CANSLIM. I've = found this approach to be the best for my personal style primarily = because it allows me to keep a pulse on the health of the CANSLIM = universe and sectors that are showing outperformance despite the overall = market averages. The other reason that I like this approach is that I'm = never in a position to introduce bias into the stocks I do or do not = look at. I don't rely on lists from the internet, TV , the IBD, = newsletters, friends, web sites, or message boards. If it doesn't show = up in my universe, I don't look at it and vice versa. So more to the point of the message thread, I "dip down" into microcap = territory to get the pulse of the market, but I tend to keep my buying = to stocks >=3D$10. That means I miss some of the early explosive action = that Ian and Tom catch. But for me, the $10 minimum is a "sleep factor" = selection criteria. Katherine ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jerry Weiss=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] MWRK, microcaps, charts K: I haven't been in the market very long, but I've been examining an = awful lot of charts. I've seen the pattern you're describing [the = sudden, rapid ascent from a long, short or almost non-existant base] = occur in various stock charts over time, but my impression is that the = phenomenon has snowballed "recently" -- perhaps over the last year or = two. =20 The micro-caps and other stocks I've looked at come from internet = "stock selectors," so I assume they are just "average." Would you mind = sharing the 'source' of your micro-caps? Do you get them off the NASDAQ = site, TC-2000, or a general "stock selector." TIA Jerry =20 Message -----=20 From: Katherine Malm=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:54 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] MWRK, microcaps, charts Ian, I'm addressing this to you primarily, as you are more familiar with = microcap behavior, though others on the list may have a point of view on = this as well... I tend to stick to stocks trading >=3D$10, but monitor = lower priced stocks for the up and comers. Something I've observed that = confuses me, however, are the chart patterns for these minis as they = begin their charge ahead. A good recent example is MWRK (not a perfect = example, because it traded around 6-12 for quite a while before = breakout, but good enough for the chart example.) The question is this....when I look at this chart, it looks like a = classic parabolic climax run. Something I normally see after a stock has = put in its 3rd or 4th stage base and is giving up the ghost. In those = cases, I'm looking to run for cover or short. But what I've noticed = lately is the tendency for microcaps to shoot into these patterns after = breaking from their long flat slumbering bases, settle down, and then = start a steady ascent. Is that a "normal" pattern that I'm seeing for = the microcaps or is it an anomaly that you've noticed in the market over = the last couple of years? Any and all thoughts on the subject would be = most appreciated. Katherine - ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C1F364.7121BC40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Jerry,
 
I use a combination of DGO and Vectorvest for all my mining and = candidate=20 selection. Between those 2 tools, I'm able to spot stocks well before = they=20 become well-known names and appear in the IBD. I don't use any of the = free=20 screeners available on the web because the results are too limiting. My = own=20 approach is to look at bare minimum requirements for forward growth = rate, price,=20 ADV, 50/200 day moving averages, A/D and RS. From there I sort and = filter for=20 the fundamental requirements, group strength, etc. My preference is to = weight=20 the values for each of these rather than eliminating candidates based on = specific minimums. That means my "universe" of CANLSIM candidates runs = about=20 700-800 at any one time. I use current technical strength to draw my = eye, then=20 sort based on the preponderance of evidence for all other things = CANSLIM. I've=20 found this approach to be the best for my personal style primarily = because it=20 allows me to keep a pulse on the health of the CANSLIM universe and = sectors=20 that are showing outperformance despite the overall market averages. The = other=20 reason that I like this approach is that I'm never in a position to = introduce=20 bias into the stocks I do or do not look at. I don't rely on lists from = the=20 internet, TV , the IBD, newsletters, friends, web sites, or message = boards. If=20 it doesn't show up in my universe, I don't look at it and vice = versa.
 
So more to the point of the message thread, I "dip down" into = microcap=20 territory to get the pulse of the market, but I tend to keep my buying = to stocks=20 >=3D$10. That means I miss some of the early explosive action that = Ian and Tom=20 catch. But for me, the $10 minimum is a "sleep factor" selection = criteria.
 
Katherine
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jerry = Weiss=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 = 11:01=20 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] MWRK, = microcaps,=20 charts

K:
I haven't been in the market very = long, but I've=20 been examining an awful lot of charts.  I've seen the=20 pattern you're describing [the sudden, rapid ascent from a = long,=20 short or almost non-existant base] occur in various stock=20 charts over time, but my impression is that the = phenomenon has=20 snowballed "recently" -- perhaps over the last year or=20 two.  
 
The micro-caps and other stocks I've = looked at=20 come from internet "stock selectors," so I assume they are just=20 "average."  Would you mind sharing the 'source' of your = micro-caps? =20 Do you get them off the NASDAQ site, TC-2000, or a general "stock=20 selector."
 
TIA
Jerry
  
 
Message -----
From:=20 Katherine=20 Malm
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 = 9:54=20 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] MWRK, = microcaps,=20 charts

Ian,
 
I'm addressing this to you primarily, as you are more familiar = with=20 microcap behavior, though others on the list may have a point of = view on=20 this as well... I tend to stick to stocks trading >=3D$10, but = monitor=20 lower priced stocks for the up and comers. Something I've observed = that=20 confuses me, however, are the chart patterns for these minis as they = begin=20 their charge ahead. A good recent example is MWRK (not a perfect = example,=20 because it traded around 6-12 for quite a while before breakout, but = good=20 enough for the chart example.)
 
The question is this....when I look at this chart, it looks = like a=20 classic parabolic climax run. Something I normally see after a stock = has put=20 in its 3rd or 4th stage base and is giving up the ghost. In those = cases, I'm=20 looking to run for cover or short. But what I've noticed lately is = the=20 tendency for microcaps to shoot into these patterns after breaking = from=20 their long flat slumbering bases, settle down, and then start a = steady=20 ascent. Is that a "normal" pattern that I'm seeing for the microcaps = or is=20 it an anomaly that you've noticed in the market over the last couple = of=20 years? Any and all thoughts on the subject would be most = appreciated.
 
Katherine
- ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C1F364.7121BC40-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 10:39:24 -0700 From: Ian Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD website question? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --Boundary_(ID_kyuPIgv0hubE2NzmM8BASA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi all: Since I am not allowed to subscribe to IBD (I live in Canada), I am also not allowed to subscribe to their website. I was wondering if one of you who does have full investors.com site access could tell me if the full print daily 'earnings' section is also online, and if it is, at what time of day it is published? If it is available online, hours before markets open, I'm going to have to find a way to get access, as I am missing out on a lot of first few hour trigger points by reading my paper 4-5 hours after the market opens. Thanks a lot, Ian - --Boundary_(ID_kyuPIgv0hubE2NzmM8BASA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Hi all:
 
Since I am not allowed to subscribe to IBD (I live in Canada), I am also not allowed to subscribe to their website. I was wondering if one of you who does have full investors.com site access could tell me if the full print daily 'earnings' section is also online, and if it is, at what time of day it is published?
 
If it is available online, hours before markets open, I'm going to have to find a way to get access, as I am missing out on a lot of first few hour trigger points by reading my paper 4-5 hours after the market opens.
 
Thanks a lot,
 
Ian
- --Boundary_(ID_kyuPIgv0hubE2NzmM8BASA)-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 15:55:52 -0500 From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD website question? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01C1F384.2ABF5760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ian, Unfortunately, they don't have the earnings info on the web site. = Wouldn't that just make too much sense? I use Briefing.com, but they only track more liquid issues. They also do = not give a full summary like the IBD does, so you're still forced to = read the press release end of day after the announcements to cull the = actuals. Another good site is http://www.companyboardroom.com/earning.asp?month=3D20020504&day=3D200203= 03&date=3D20020503&client=3Dcb But again, same issue... Wish there were an online site that summarized = as nicely as the IBD. Katherine ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ian=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 12:39 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD website question? Hi all: Since I am not allowed to subscribe to IBD (I live in Canada), I am = also not allowed to subscribe to their website. I was wondering if one = of you who does have full investors.com site access could tell me if the = full print daily 'earnings' section is also online, and if it is, at = what time of day it is published? If it is available online, hours before markets open, I'm going to = have to find a way to get access, as I am missing out on a lot of first = few hour trigger points by reading my paper 4-5 hours after the market = opens. Thanks a lot, Ian - ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01C1F384.2ABF5760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Ian,
 
Unfortunately, they don't have the earnings info on the web site. = Wouldn't=20 that just make too much sense?
 
I use Briefing.com, but they only track more liquid issues. They = also do=20 not give a full summary like the IBD does, so you're still forced to = read the=20 press release end of day after the announcements to cull the actuals. = Another=20 good site is
 
http://www.companyboa= rdroom.com/earning.asp?month=3D20020504&day=3D20020303&date=3D200= 20503&client=3Dcb
 
But again, same issue... Wish there were an online site that=20 summarized as nicely as the IBD.
 
Katherine
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ian =
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 = 12:39=20 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] IBD website=20 question?

Hi all:
 
Since I am not allowed to subscribe to IBD (I live = in=20 Canada), I am also not allowed to subscribe to their website. I was = wondering=20 if one of you who does have full investors.com site access could tell = me if=20 the full print daily 'earnings' section is also online, and if it is, = at what=20 time of day it is published?
 
If it is available online, hours before markets = open, I'm=20 going to have to find a way to get access, as I am missing out on a = lot of=20 first few hour trigger points by reading my paper 4-5 hours after the = market=20 opens.
 
Thanks a lot,
 
Ian
- ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01C1F384.2ABF5760-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 14:05:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve F Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD website question? Hello Ian, I am mostly a lurker, posting questions every once in a while. I admire your contribution to the group and find myself looking forward to your posts. You, Katherine and Tom have been very significant to my learning process. God knows, I need the help. I live in a suburb of New York City and my copy of IBD is generally on my driveway at 6:00 AM,. NY Time I would certainly be willing to fax you the earnings pages you are asking in trade for some general guidance. I am usually home 4 of 5 days a week. Hope you don't mind the personal e-mail, not sure this would be considered 'on topic' for the group or if IBD would approve either. Steve - --- Ian wrote: > Hi all: > > Since I am not allowed to subscribe to IBD (I live > in Canada), I am also not allowed to subscribe to > their website. I was wondering if one of you who > does have full investors.com site access could tell > me if the full print daily 'earnings' section is > also online, and if it is, at what time of day it is > published? > > If it is available online, hours before markets > open, I'm going to have to find a way to get access, > as I am missing out on a lot of first few hour > trigger points by reading my paper 4-5 hours after > the market opens. > > Thanks a lot, > > Ian > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 16:49:22 -0500 From: "Matt & Alicia Leverette" Subject: [CANSLIM] UOPX This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C1F38B.A4161980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just ran across this stock today. It is rated a 99 on the IBD = website. The EPS rating is 99 and the RS rating is 88. It is also = listed in the top 5 of the #1 rated industry group. =20 Yahoo shows an ROE of slightly over 40, no debt, increasing gross = margins, and a Float of only 13.1 million shares.=20 I am not sure if any of you use P&F Charts, but that is what directed my = attention to this stock. It shows a triple top pattern. I am thinking of buying a few shares, but I would love to hear some of = the groups thoughts. Thanks, Matt - ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C1F38B.A4161980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just ran across this stock = today.  It is=20 rated a 99 on the IBD website.  The EPS rating is 99 and the RS = rating is=20 88.  It is also listed in = the top 5 of=20 the #1 rated industry group. 
 
Yahoo shows an ROE of slightly over 40, = no debt,=20 increasing gross margins, and a Float of only 13.1 million shares. =
 
I am not sure if any of you use P&F = Charts, but=20 that is what directed my attention to this stock.  It shows a = triple top=20 pattern.
 
I am thinking of buying a few shares, = but I would=20 love to hear some of the groups thoughts.
 
Thanks,
 
Matt
- ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C1F38B.A4161980-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 18:09:13 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] UOPX This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C1F396.CBE067D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable biggest concern I would have is that most of the issue is held by = outsiders (issue 108.4 million shares, management owns 2%, but only 10.8 = million shares left in the float according to DGO). fundies look good, however cash flow (29 cents) barely exceeds last = year's earnings of 24 cents, despite some impressive earnings numbers. sales appear to be growing nicely, but earnings are not Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Matt & Alicia Leverette=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:49 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] UOPX I just ran across this stock today. It is rated a 99 on the IBD = website. The EPS rating is 99 and the RS rating is 88. It is also = listed in the top 5 of the #1 rated industry group. =20 Yahoo shows an ROE of slightly over 40, no debt, increasing gross = margins, and a Float of only 13.1 million shares.=20 I am not sure if any of you use P&F Charts, but that is what directed my = attention to this stock. It shows a triple top pattern. I am thinking of buying a few shares, but I would love to hear some of = the groups thoughts. Thanks, Matt - ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C1F396.CBE067D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
biggest concern I would have is that most of the = issue is=20 held by outsiders (issue 108.4 million shares, management owns 2%, but = only 10.8=20 million shares left in the float according to DGO).
 
fundies look good, however cash flow (29 cents) = barely=20 exceeds last year's earnings of 24 cents, = despite some=20 impressive earnings numbers.
 
sales appear to be growing nicely, but earnings = are=20 not
 
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
AIM:=20 TexWorley
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Matt = &=20 Alicia Leverette
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:49 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] UOPX

I just ran across this stock = today.  It is=20 rated a 99 on the IBD website.  The EPS rating is 99 and the RS = rating is=20 88.  It is also listed in = the top 5 of=20 the #1 rated industry group. 
 
Yahoo shows an ROE of slightly over 40, = no debt,=20 increasing gross margins, and a Float of only 13.1 million shares. =
 
I am not sure if any of you use P&F = Charts, but=20 that is what directed my attention to this stock.  It shows a = triple top=20 pattern.
 
I am thinking of buying a few shares, = but I would=20 love to hear some of the groups thoughts.
 
Thanks,
 
Matt
- ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C1F396.CBE067D0-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 14:19:35 -1000 From: "Mike Gibbons" Subject: RS trend was RE: [CANSLIM] CANSLIm Evaluator Updates I like Bill's idea of adding an indicator to the Canslim evaluator to show if the RS is trending up or down. Does anyone have any views on how this should be done? I'm thinking of showing if the RS is above or below its moving average, but should it be 5, 10, 20, 50 dma? Aloha, Mike Gibbons Proactive Technologies, LLC http://www.proactech.com - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Bill Triffet Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:31 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] CANSLIm Evaluator Updates Great job Mike! While I haven't used it extensively, it does make for good first check to see if the issue is even close. It also points me to the problem areas. Just a thought - perhaps an added RS calculation to replace the trending line of the RS in a graph? A static way to show if the RS in increasing or decreasing. Example: Stock A is has an RS of 80. Stock B is also 80. The difference is Stock A was 60 two weeks ago. Stock B was 98 two weeks ago. Maybe a little up/down arrows nest to the RS? Not sure what time frame one would use though. Bottom line: given the price of your tool - it works great. Thanks! - -Bill - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Gibbons" To: Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:42 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] CANSLIm Evaluator Updates > I've made some changes to the canslim evaluator (www.cwhcharts.com/canslim) > to address some of the comments I've received from the group. > > 1. Values for fundamentals such as ROE are now rounded to whole numbers so a > value of 16.78% will meet the 17% threshold. > 2. I've applied some "fuzzy math" so a stock falling short of the required > threshold will still get a score. For example, where EPS growth rate is > required to be 25% to score 1 point, it will now score 0.8 for an EPS growth > rate of 20% > 3. Only stocks on our WON cwh list will now rank as emerging from a sound > base pattern. > > Thanks to those who have sent me suggestions both on and off-line. To those > others of you who make extensive use of the tool, I would like to hear your > suggestions for improvement also. > > Now, would anyone care to suggest the appropriate weightings for each CANSLI > category? - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 19:11:14 -0600 From: "Patrick Wahl" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] UOPX The good news is that it is in good company from a group strength point of view, with APOL and CECO posting very similar looking charts, so someone thinks this particular sector is a good place to be putting money. Otherwise I don't have a strong opinion on this one either way. On 4 May 2002 at 16:49, Matt & Alicia Leverette wrote: > I just ran across this stock today. It is rated a 99 on the IBD website. The EPS rating is 99 and the RS rating is 88. It is also listed in the top 5 of the #1 rated industry group. > > Yahoo shows an ROE of slightly over 40, no debt, increasing gross margins, and a Float of only 13.1 million shares. > > I am not sure if any of you use P&F Charts, but that is what directed my attention to this stock. It shows a triple top pattern. > > I am thinking of buying a few shares, but I would love to hear some of the groups thoughts. > > Thanks, > > Matt > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 20:19:18 -0500 From: "Norman" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] UOPX A downside for UOPX is that it was written up in Monday's 'The New America' section in IBD. It has been noted here in the past that this sometimes means the party's over. Time will tell. norm - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Wahl" To: Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] UOPX > The good news is that it is in good company from a group strength point of view, > with APOL and CECO posting very similar looking charts, so someone thinks this > particular sector is a good place to be putting money. Otherwise I don't have a > strong opinion on this one either way. > > On 4 May 2002 at 16:49, Matt & Alicia Leverette wrote: > > > I just ran across this stock today. It is rated a 99 on the IBD website. The EPS rating is 99 and the RS rating is 88. It is also listed in the top 5 of the #1 rated industry group. > > > > Yahoo shows an ROE of slightly over 40, no debt, increasing gross margins, and a Float of only 13.1 million shares. > > > > I am not sure if any of you use P&F Charts, but that is what directed my attention to this stock. It shows a triple top pattern. > > > > I am thinking of buying a few shares, but I would love to hear some of the groups thoughts. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Matt > > > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 22:49:24 EDT From: Spencer48@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD website question? Ian: As Katherine pointed out, the IBD website doesn't print the earnings section. But if does print Investors Corner and The Big Picture that will be in the next day's paper around 8 PM. jans In a message dated 5/4/2002 4:45:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ianstm@shaw.ca writes: << Since I am not allowed to subscribe to IBD (I live in Canada), I am also not allowed to subscribe to their website. I was wondering if one of you who does have full investors.com site access could tell me if the full print daily 'earnings' section is also online, and if it is, at what time of day it is published? If it is available online, hours before markets open, I'm going to have to find a way to get access, as I am missing out on a lot of first few hour trigger points by reading my paper 4-5 hours after the market opens. Thanks a lot, Ian >> - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 22:57:51 EDT From: Spencer48@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] UOPX Tom: Why would a company have so many share outstanding with such a relatively small float? DG doesn't show any stock buybacks. The only thing I can think of is that the company executives want to be able to offer stock options to its employees-and without having to hold a vote on issuing new shares. Does that make sense to you, or would another scenario make more sense? jans In a message dated 5/4/2002 6:09:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, stkguru@bellsouth.net writes: << Biggest concern I would have is that most of the issue is held by outsiders (issue 108.4 million shares, management owns 2%, but only 10.8 million shares left in the float according to DGO). fundies look good, however cash flow (29 cents) barely exceeds last year's earnings of 24 cents, despite some impressive earnings numbers. sales appear to be growing nicely, but earnings are not Tom Worley >> - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 22:10:25 -0500 From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] UOPX This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C1F3B8.7DF49EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi jans, Apologies to Tom for answering...but most of the outstanding shares are = still owned by APOL, the parent. Katherine ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Spencer48@aol.com=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] UOPX Tom: Why would a company have so many share outstanding with such a=20 relatively small float? DG doesn't show any stock buybacks. The only = thing=20 I can think of is that the company executives want to be able to offer = stock=20 options to its employees-and without having to hold a vote on issuing = new=20 shares. =20 Does that make sense to you, or would another scenario make more = sense? jans In a message dated 5/4/2002 6:09:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 stkguru@bellsouth.net writes: << Biggest concern I would have is that most of the issue is held by=20 outsiders (issue 108.4 million shares, management owns 2%, but only = 10.8=20 million shares left in the float according to DGO). =20 fundies look good, however cash flow (29 cents) barely exceeds last = year's=20 earnings of 24 cents, despite some impressive earnings numbers. =20 sales appear to be growing nicely, but earnings are not =20 Tom Worley >> - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". 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Hi jans,
 
Apologies to Tom for answering...but most of the outstanding shares = are=20 still owned by APOL, the parent.
 
Katherine
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Tom:

     Why would a = company have=20 so many share outstanding with such a
relatively small = float?  DG=20 doesn't show any stock buybacks.  The only thing
I can think = of is=20 that the company executives want to be able to offer stock
options = to its=20 employees-and without having to hold a vote on issuing new =
shares. =20

     Does that make sense to you, or would = another=20 scenario make more sense?

jans


In a message dated = 5/4/2002=20 6:09:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
stkguru@bellsouth.net=20 writes:

<< Biggest concern I would have is that most of = the issue=20 is held by
outsiders (issue 108.4 million shares, management owns = 2%, but=20 only 10.8
million shares left in the float according to=20 DGO).
 
 fundies look good, however cash flow (29 = cents)=20 barely exceeds last year's
earnings of 24 cents, despite some = impressive=20 earnings numbers.
 
 sales appear to be growing = nicely, but=20 earnings are not
 
 Tom Worley = >>

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