From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #2649 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Tuesday, July 23 2002 Volume 02 : Number 2649 In this issue: RE: [CANSLIM] Updated CANSLIM hunting list [CANSLIM] Market psychology Re: [CANSLIM] Updated CANSLIM hunting list Re: [CANSLIM] Market psychology Re: [CANSLIM] Market psychology Re: [CANSLIM] Market psychology ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 12:51:35 -0400 From: "Duke Miller" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Updated CANSLIM hunting list This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01C23247.B07A7F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What a great thing to do for us, Katherine. Thanks very much. It's my hope, after viewing this list, that we, as a group, look hard at these and our own lists. Then lets put our favorites on the table so we can openly examine the candidates. If you've been on this list more than a week, you know how quick members are to jump on an issue. Also, would it be a good idea if Jeff Salisbury included the FAQ when confirming new members to the list? That way, if just by a slight chance someone should ask (for the umpteenth time), "What's LLUR", a gentle reminder from any of us, "See the FAQ," would save hours of wasted effort. With the Intraday charts once again looking everything like the rugged terrain of Afghanistan, I say have a nice day one and all. Duke - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 10:39 AM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: [CANSLIM] Updated CANSLIM hunting list Hi All, I've uploaded an updated CANSLIM Hunting list to the CANSLIM list site: http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMHunting072202.zip This is a zipped Excel spreadsheet. If you don't have a copy of Excel, you can download a free viewer at: http://office.microsoft.com/downloads/default.aspx?Product=Excel &Version=95|97|98|2000|2002&Type=Converter|Viewer I've taken a slightly different approach this time, limiting the list to only those stocks that are technically healthy. That means only about 200 stocks make the grade. Now's the best time of all to get your shopping lists ready. With so few stocks to evaluate, you can use your time for effective due diligence. When Mr. M is ready to shine, you'll be ready with your short list. At the market bottom in '98, very few stocks made the cut, among them? AOL and YHOO, both of which had great runs over the next couple of years. In order to make it to the current hunting list, the stock had to have a forward growth of at least 15%, Price at least 6, Avg Daily Vol at least 30K, RS at least 60, no more than 15% below the 50 day MA, and at or above the 200 day MA. Occasionally I will not have data for a stock and it will slip onto the list even though the minimum technicals will not actually be met. Prices current as of market close 7/22/02. Katherine - ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01C23247.B07A7F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
What a great = thing to do=20 for us, Katherine.  Thanks very much.
 
It's my hope, = after viewing=20 this list, that we, as a group, look hard at these and our own = lists.  Then=20 lets put our favorites on the table so we can openly examine the=20 candidates.  If you've been on this list more than a week, you know = how=20 quick members are to jump on an issue.  
 
Also, would it = be a good=20 idea if Jeff Salisbury included the FAQ when confirming new members = to the=20 list?  That way, if just by a slight chance someone should ask = (for=20 the umpteenth time), "What's LLUR", a gentle reminder from any of us, = "See the=20 FAQ," would save hours of wasted effort.  
 
With the = Intraday charts=20 once again looking everything like the rugged terrain of Afghanistan, I = say have=20 a nice day one and all.
 
Duke  =20
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]=20 On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, = 2002=20 10:39 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: = [CANSLIM]=20 Updated CANSLIM hunting list

Hi All,
 
I've uploaded an updated CANSLIM Hunting list to the CANSLIM list = site:
http:= //WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/CANSLIMHunting072202.zip
 
This is a zipped Excel spreadsheet. If you don't have a copy of = Excel,=20 you can download a free viewer at:
http://of= fice.microsoft.com/downloads/default.aspx?Product=3DExcel&Version=3D9= 5|97|98|2000|2002&Type=3DConverter|Viewer
 
I've taken a slightly different approach this time, limiting the = list to=20 only those stocks that are technically healthy. That means only about = 200=20 stocks make the grade. Now's the best time of all to get your shopping = lists=20 ready. With so few stocks to evaluate, you can use your time for = effective due=20 diligence. When Mr. M is ready to shine, you'll be ready with your = short list.=20 At the market bottom in '98, very few stocks made the cut, among them? = AOL and=20 YHOO, both of which had great runs over the next couple of = years.
 
In order to make it to the current hunting list, the stock had to = have a=20 forward growth of at least 15%, Price at least 6, Avg Daily Vol at = least 30K,=20 RS at least 60, no more than 15% below the 50 day MA, and at or above = the 200=20 day MA.
 
Occasionally I will not have data for a stock and it will slip = onto the=20 list even though the minimum technicals will not actually be = met.
 
Prices current as of market close 7/22/02.
 
Katherine
- ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01C23247.B07A7F40-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:59:55 -0400 From: "J. Lobatto" Subject: [CANSLIM] Market psychology This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C23261.FD056180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All the professionals are looking for a massive capitulation day to mark = the termination of this bear market (i.e. an obvious panic day when they = can start pouring money in). Using the fact that the market rarely = satisfies the majority of participants, I suspect that the professionals = may not get their wish. As such, one other scenario comes to mind: The market continues this relentless water torture for an indeterminate = amount of time and finally the bear market ends at some point with a = whimper barely noticed by anyone, that is a new low is made on a fairly = "normal" day and the market starts climbing back up the next day, either = A) explosively or perhaps B) gently and imperceptibly and basically = doesn't look back from that day on. Any other non-capitulation scenarios that any of you can come up with? = The reason I ask is that with my "B"scenario, we may not get the FTD day = that will ring the bell for us either. Jon - ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C23261.FD056180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All the professionals are = looking for a=20 massive capitulation day to mark the termination of this bear market = (i.e. an=20 obvious panic day when they can start pouring money in). Using the = fact=20 that the market rarely satisfies the majority of participants, I suspect = that=20 the professionals may not get their wish. As such, one other scenario = comes to=20 mind:
 
The market continues this = relentless water=20 torture for an indeterminate amount of time and finally the bear = market=20 ends at some point with a whimper barely noticed by anyone, that is a = new low is=20 made on a fairly "normal" day = and the=20 market starts climbing back up the next day, either = A) explosively or=20 perhaps B) gently and imperceptibly and basically doesn't look back = from=20 that day on.
 
Any other non-capitulation = scenarios that=20 any of you can come up with? The reason I ask is that with my = "B"scenario, we=20 may not get the FTD day that will ring the bell for us = either.
 
Jon
- ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C23261.FD056180-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:09:21 EDT From: Spencer48@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Updated CANSLIM hunting list Ernie & Katherine: Ernie, I'm sorry to see you leave the list. However, I understand why you intend to be not even a "lurker". Canslim is not for shorts, and its formula relies on the Market being a bull before buying stocks. And if the Market.-according to your calculations-won't rally till March/03.... But I do want to thank you for your responses when I had Elliot Wave queries. I appreciate the replies, and I did re-learn and learn things about Wave analysis which I had forgotten or neglected to take to heart. Katherine, I know WON says to make a shopping list of stocks that look good during bear markets-but this bear has been going on nearly 3 years. Moreover, how can anyone trust the earning, sales, and cash-flow figures on which EPS and RS are based (not to mention trust annual and quarterly earnings and sales) until at least after August 14th (when CEOs and CFOs must certify their figures or face jail time). I've had a shopping list for nearly 3 years, and the stocks in the list keep changing (I've removed from my list charts that show stocks which have fallen below their 200 DMA; or charts whose earnings in the current quarters are less than WON-ish; or charts whose RS's are plummeting). As an example of my less than sanguine attitude: IBD's screen today includes stocks that have increased earnings the last few quarters. No doubt, some of those stocks will be deleted next quarter-and the quarter after that, and the quarter...etc. Excuse my rant, I know your right: Compiling a shopping list of nice stocks now is a good idea. I'll not only know what stocks to look at (when the Bull wakes up), but during this interim, looking at those stock's charts gives me the opportunity to hone my technical skills. But the passage: "When Mr. M is ready to shine..." was just too much. jans In a message dated 7/23/2002 10:45:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kmalm@earthlink.net writes: << Now's the best time of all to get your shopping lists ready. With so few stocks to evaluate, you can use your time for effective due diligence. When Mr. M is ready to shine, you'll be ready with your short list. At the market bottom in '98, very few stocks made the cut, among them? AOL and YHOO, both of which had great runs over the next couple of years. >> - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:11:23 -0500 From: "Katherine Malm" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Market psychology This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00DD_01C2325B.351CFC60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jon, Here's a point of view on the notion of capitulation from an excellent = technician and market veteran, John Mendelson. It's awfully hard to say = how the market will find its bottom, and it's very possible that we may = get some "false" FTD's. But I do know with certainty that there will be = no sustainable upturn *without* a FTD. Katherine =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Weekly Market Analysis John A. Mendelson July 23, 2002 A View Of The Market Some Recent Questions From Clients: Do you expect to see a capitulation by investors before this decline = ends? The prospect of capitulation, or a climatic downward trading spike that = exhausts the selling, appears to be very much on the minds of many, particularly the financial = press. The "need" for this has been mentioned in numerous articles. First of all, nobody knows for sure if this event will occur. We have = clearly seen an acceleration of selling in the last two weeks that has moved the market = to an extreme extended or "oversold" position. In this regard, 99% of the stocks in the S&P 500 = (SPX - 820) are below their ten-week average, a higher percentage than September 2001 or October = 1987. Furthermore, actions reflecting investor sentiment such as the CBOE Put/Call Ratio, the = ten-day average of the Arms Index (TRIN - 1.67) and the NASDAQ Trin (TRINNASD - 0.62), measures of = buying and selling pressure on the market, and my proprietary "Diaper Indicator" all are at = or near historically extreme levels, as is the CBOE OEX Volatility Index (VIX - 48.23). Furthermore, = NYSE short interest is now the highest in history and the dividend yield on the S&P 500 is = higher than that of six-month U.S. Treasury bills, a most unusual event in modern times. My point is that one might say we have already had a "capitulation." I = would also note that the 1973-1974 bear market, the worst I ever saw, ended on October 3, = 1974 with a "whimper, not a bang" after twenty-one months of slow death on low volume.there was no = capitulation. In addition, the 1929-1932 bear market bottomed on July 8, 1932 on volume = well below many days in the prior two months. Who knows? . my personal view is that investor = capitulation is not "needed" to form a bottom and that many sentiment indicators are at more = extreme levels than at previous historic lows. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: J. Lobatto=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 2:59 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] Market psychology All the professionals are looking for a massive capitulation day to = mark the termination of this bear market (i.e. an obvious panic day when = they can start pouring money in). Using the fact that the market rarely = satisfies the majority of participants, I suspect that the professionals = may not get their wish. As such, one other scenario comes to mind: The market continues this relentless water torture for an = indeterminate amount of time and finally the bear market ends at some = point with a whimper barely noticed by anyone, that is a new low is made = on a fairly "normal" day and the market starts climbing back up the next = day, either A) explosively or perhaps B) gently and imperceptibly and = basically doesn't look back from that day on. Any other non-capitulation scenarios that any of you can come up with? = The reason I ask is that with my "B"scenario, we may not get the FTD day = that will ring the bell for us either. Jon - ------=_NextPart_000_00DD_01C2325B.351CFC60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Jon,

Here's a point of view on the notion of capitulation from an = excellent=20 technician and market veteran, John Mendelson. It's awfully hard to say = how the=20 market will find its bottom, and it's very possible that we may get some = "false"=20 FTD's. But I do know with certainty that there will be no sustainable = upturn=20 *without* a FTD.

Katherine

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Weekly Market Analysis

John A. Mendelson

July 23, 2002

A View Of The Market

Some Recent Questions From Clients:

Do you expect to see a capitulation by investors before this decline=20 ends?

The prospect of capitulation, or a climatic downward trading spike = that=20 exhausts the selling,

appears to be very much on the minds of many, particularly the = financial=20 press. The "need" for this

has been mentioned in numerous articles.

First of all, nobody knows for sure if this event will occur. We have = clearly=20 seen an

acceleration of selling in the last two weeks that has moved the = market to an=20 extreme extended or

"oversold" position. In this regard, 99% of the stocks in the S&P = 500=20 (SPX =96 820) are below their

ten-week average, a higher percentage than September 2001 or October = 1987.=20 Furthermore, actions

reflecting investor sentiment such as the CBOE Put/Call Ratio, the = ten-day=20 average of the Arms

Index (TRIN =96 1.67) and the NASDAQ Trin (TRINNASD =96 0.62), = measures of buying=20 and selling

pressure on the market, and my proprietary "Diaper Indicator" all are = at or=20 near historically extreme

levels, as is the CBOE OEX Volatility Index (VIX =96 48.23). = Furthermore, NYSE=20 short interest is

now the highest in history and the dividend yield on the S&P 500 = is=20 higher than that of six-month

U.S. Treasury bills, a most unusual event in modern times.

My point is that one might say we have already had a "capitulation." = I would=20 also note that

the 1973-1974 bear market, the worst I ever saw, ended on October 3, = 1974=20 with a "whimper, not a

bang" after twenty-one months of slow death on low volume=85there was = no=20 capitulation. In

addition, the 1929-1932 bear market bottomed on July 8, 1932 on = volume well=20 below many days in

the prior two months. Who knows? =85 my personal view is that = investor=20 capitulation is not

"needed" to form a bottom and that many sentiment indicators are at = more=20 extreme levels than at

previous historic lows.

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 J. = Lobatto=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 = 2:59=20 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Market=20 psychology

All the professionals are = looking for a=20 massive capitulation day to mark the termination of this bear market = (i.e. an=20 obvious panic day when they can start pouring money in). Using = the fact=20 that the market rarely satisfies the majority of participants, I = suspect that=20 the professionals may not get their wish. As such, one other scenario = comes to=20 mind:
 
The market continues this = relentless water=20 torture for an indeterminate amount of time and finally the bear = market=20 ends at some point with a whimper barely noticed by anyone, that is a = new low=20 is made on a fairly "normal" = day and the=20 market starts climbing back up the next day, either = A) explosively=20 or perhaps B) gently and imperceptibly and basically doesn't look = back=20 from that day on.
 
Any other non-capitulation = scenarios that=20 any of you can come up with? The reason I ask is that with my = "B"scenario, we=20 may not get the FTD day that will ring the bell for us = either.
 
Jon
- ------=_NextPart_000_00DD_01C2325B.351CFC60-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:14:50 -0400 From: "J. Lobatto" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Market psychology This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01C23264.128DDA80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Katherine, Thanks for that reply. Very interesting to note that the two most = sustained bears of the century did not end on obvious capitulation. Jon=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Katherine Malm=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Market psychology Hi Jon, Here's a point of view on the notion of capitulation from an excellent = technician and market veteran, John Mendelson. It's awfully hard to say = how the market will find its bottom, and it's very possible that we may = get some "false" FTD's. But I do know with certainty that there will be = no sustainable upturn *without* a FTD. Katherine =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Weekly Market Analysis John A. Mendelson July 23, 2002 A View Of The Market Some Recent Questions From Clients: Do you expect to see a capitulation by investors before this decline = ends? The prospect of capitulation, or a climatic downward trading spike = that exhausts the selling, appears to be very much on the minds of many, particularly the = financial press. The "need" for this has been mentioned in numerous articles. First of all, nobody knows for sure if this event will occur. We have = clearly seen an acceleration of selling in the last two weeks that has moved the = market to an extreme extended or "oversold" position. In this regard, 99% of the stocks in the S&P 500 = (SPX - 820) are below their ten-week average, a higher percentage than September 2001 or October = 1987. Furthermore, actions reflecting investor sentiment such as the CBOE Put/Call Ratio, the = ten-day average of the Arms Index (TRIN - 1.67) and the NASDAQ Trin (TRINNASD - 0.62), measures of = buying and selling pressure on the market, and my proprietary "Diaper Indicator" all are = at or near historically extreme levels, as is the CBOE OEX Volatility Index (VIX - 48.23). = Furthermore, NYSE short interest is now the highest in history and the dividend yield on the S&P 500 is = higher than that of six-month U.S. Treasury bills, a most unusual event in modern times. My point is that one might say we have already had a "capitulation." I = would also note that the 1973-1974 bear market, the worst I ever saw, ended on October 3, = 1974 with a "whimper, not a bang" after twenty-one months of slow death on low volume.there was no = capitulation. In addition, the 1929-1932 bear market bottomed on July 8, 1932 on volume = well below many days in the prior two months. Who knows? . my personal view is that investor = capitulation is not "needed" to form a bottom and that many sentiment indicators are at = more extreme levels than at previous historic lows. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: J. Lobatto=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 2:59 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] Market psychology All the professionals are looking for a massive capitulation day to = mark the termination of this bear market (i.e. an obvious panic day when = they can start pouring money in). Using the fact that the market rarely = satisfies the majority of participants, I suspect that the professionals = may not get their wish. As such, one other scenario comes to mind: The market continues this relentless water torture for an = indeterminate amount of time and finally the bear market ends at some = point with a whimper barely noticed by anyone, that is a new low is made = on a fairly "normal" day and the market starts climbing back up the next = day, either A) explosively or perhaps B) gently and imperceptibly and = basically doesn't look back from that day on. Any other non-capitulation scenarios that any of you can come up = with? The reason I ask is that with my "B"scenario, we may not get the = FTD day that will ring the bell for us either. Jon - ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01C23264.128DDA80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Katherine,
 
Thanks for that reply. Very = interesting to=20 note that the two most sustained bears of the century did not end on = obvious=20 capitulation.
 
Jon 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Katherine=20 Malm
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 = 4:11=20 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Market=20 psychology

Hi Jon,

Here's a point of view on the notion of capitulation from an = excellent=20 technician and market veteran, John Mendelson. It's awfully hard to = say how=20 the market will find its bottom, and it's very possible that we may = get some=20 "false" FTD's. But I do know with certainty that there will be no = sustainable=20 upturn *without* a FTD.

Katherine

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Weekly Market Analysis

John A. Mendelson

July 23, 2002

A View Of The Market

Some Recent Questions From Clients:

Do you expect to see a capitulation by investors before this = decline=20 ends?

The prospect of capitulation, or a climatic downward trading spike = that=20 exhausts the selling,

appears to be very much on the minds of many, particularly the = financial=20 press. The "need" for this

has been mentioned in numerous articles.

First of all, nobody knows for sure if this event will occur. We = have=20 clearly seen an

acceleration of selling in the last two weeks that has moved the = market to=20 an extreme extended or

"oversold" position. In this regard, 99% of the stocks in the = S&P 500=20 (SPX =96 820) are below their

ten-week average, a higher percentage than September 2001 or = October 1987.=20 Furthermore, actions

reflecting investor sentiment such as the CBOE Put/Call Ratio, the = ten-day=20 average of the Arms

Index (TRIN =96 1.67) and the NASDAQ Trin (TRINNASD =96 0.62), = measures of=20 buying and selling

pressure on the market, and my proprietary "Diaper Indicator" all = are at or=20 near historically extreme

levels, as is the CBOE OEX Volatility Index (VIX =96 48.23). = Furthermore,=20 NYSE short interest is

now the highest in history and the dividend yield on the S&P = 500 is=20 higher than that of six-month

U.S. Treasury bills, a most unusual event in modern times.

My point is that one might say we have already had a = "capitulation." I=20 would also note that

the 1973-1974 bear market, the worst I ever saw, ended on October = 3, 1974=20 with a "whimper, not a

bang" after twenty-one months of slow death on low volume=85there = was no=20 capitulation. In

addition, the 1929-1932 bear market bottomed on July 8, 1932 on = volume well=20 below many days in

the prior two months. Who knows? =85 my personal view is that = investor=20 capitulation is not

"needed" to form a bottom and that many sentiment indicators are at = more=20 extreme levels than at

previous historic lows.

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 J.=20 Lobatto
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 = 2:59=20 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Market=20 psychology

All the professionals are = looking for a=20 massive capitulation day to mark the termination of this bear market = (i.e.=20 an obvious panic day when they can start pouring money in). = Using the=20 fact that the market rarely satisfies the majority of participants, = I=20 suspect that the professionals may not get their wish. As such, one = other=20 scenario comes to mind:
 
The market continues this = relentless=20 water torture for an indeterminate amount of time and finally = the bear=20 market ends at some point with a whimper barely noticed by anyone, = that is a=20 new low is made on a fairly "normal"=20 day and the market starts climbing back up the next day, either = A) explosively or perhaps B) gently and imperceptibly and=20 basically doesn't look back from that day on.
 
Any other non-capitulation = scenarios=20 that any of you can come up with? The reason I ask is that with my=20 "B"scenario, we may not get the FTD day that will ring the bell for = us=20 either.
 
Jon
- ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01C23264.128DDA80-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:26:34 -0400 From: "William King" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Market psychology This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C23265.B6397620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jon, I was watching an interview on one of the financial shows the other day = - - can't remember who or where - but the "expert" said he had looked at = history and concluded the bottoming process could take from 3 to 7 = months of consolidation. Bill K. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: J. Lobatto=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 3:59 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] Market psychology All the professionals are looking for a massive capitulation day to = mark the termination of this bear market (i.e. an obvious panic day when = they can start pouring money in). Using the fact that the market rarely = satisfies the majority of participants, I suspect that the professionals = may not get their wish. As such, one other scenario comes to mind: The market continues this relentless water torture for an = indeterminate amount of time and finally the bear market ends at some = point with a whimper barely noticed by anyone, that is a new low is made = on a fairly "normal" day and the market starts climbing back up the next = day, either A) explosively or perhaps B) gently and imperceptibly and = basically doesn't look back from that day on. Any other non-capitulation scenarios that any of you can come up with? = The reason I ask is that with my "B"scenario, we may not get the FTD day = that will ring the bell for us either. Jon - ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C23265.B6397620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jon,
I was watching an interview on one of = the financial=20 shows the other day - can't remember who or where - but the "expert" = said he had=20 looked at history and concluded the bottoming process could take from 3 = to 7=20 months of consolidation.
 
Bill K.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 J. = Lobatto=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 = 3:59=20 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Market=20 psychology

All the professionals are = looking for a=20 massive capitulation day to mark the termination of this bear market = (i.e. an=20 obvious panic day when they can start pouring money in). Using = the fact=20 that the market rarely satisfies the majority of participants, I = suspect that=20 the professionals may not get their wish. As such, one other scenario = comes to=20 mind:
 
The market continues this = relentless water=20 torture for an indeterminate amount of time and finally the bear = market=20 ends at some point with a whimper barely noticed by anyone, that is a = new low=20 is made on a fairly "normal" = day and the=20 market starts climbing back up the next day, either = A) explosively=20 or perhaps B) gently and imperceptibly and basically doesn't look = back=20 from that day on.
 
Any other non-capitulation = scenarios that=20 any of you can come up with? The reason I ask is that with my = "B"scenario, we=20 may not get the FTD day that will ring the bell for us = either.
 
Jon
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