From: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com (canslim-digest) To: canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: canslim-digest V2 #2889 Reply-To: canslim Sender: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-canslim-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-No-Archive: yes canslim-digest Friday, August 30 2002 Volume 02 : Number 2889 In this issue: Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ Re: [CANSLIM] New Member RE: [CANSLIM] PRS Re: [CANSLIM] New Member [CANSLIM] OT?? - sign of the times??? I hope not!! Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ Re: [CANSLIM] New Member Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ RE: [CANSLIM] Ernie's Forecasts ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 23:31:49 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ Hi Norman, could well be that a handle is trying to form, but remember, I personally dislike a drooping handle even if WON advocates it. I bot EPIQ at the bottom of the cup, in part because I know the stock so well. My stop loss execution yesterday prematurely ended my fifth round trip in three years, only stock I have had that many times, much less successfully (profits of 70%, 20%, 30%, 200 to over 400% and now 25%). But I still like the story long term, so likely I will venture into it a sixth time. But it may also be getting tired, its story has been told so many times, and even though bankruptcy filings continue to hit new highs, the belief that the economy would recover did a lot of damage to it over the past six months. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman" To: Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:16 AM Subject: [CANSLIM] EPIQ Tom, Is there a handle forming on EPIQs erratic cup? Looks like the vol is low today; good for a handle. Also seems to have bumped up against a resistance level. Norm - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 23:48:33 EDT From: Cwyndham@aol.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New Member - --part1_18a.d44939f.2aa04511_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Tom I just a copy of the new edition of HTMMIS and will read it at the lake this weekend. See you next week. Wyndy (not Wendy) - --part1_18a.d44939f.2aa04511_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Tom

I just a copy of the new edition of HTMMIS and will read it at the lake this weekend. See you next week.

Wyndy (not Wendy)
- --part1_18a.d44939f.2aa04511_boundary-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 17:56:46 -1000 From: "Mike Gibbons" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] PRS thanks Winston, jans and Chaz. Obviously not one to buy into in the hope of huge further gains. Aloha, Mike Gibbons Proactive Technologies, LLC http://www.proactech.com - -----Original Message----- From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Winston Little Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 5:13 PM To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] PRS Mike: PURE RESOURCES (PRS) - - Independent oil company Pure Resources Inc. (PRS) said late on Monday that a special committee of its independent directors will evaluate a previously announced takeover bid from Unocal Corp. (UCL). Shares of Pure Resources closed at $23.25 Monday. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Gibbons" To: Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 8:56 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] PRS > This stock showed up on my lists today having formed a 5 day handle after a > dramatic 30% price gain on 8/21. > > My Canslim Evaluator turned up some surprizing fundamentals such as 151% > compound EPS growth over 3 years but an EPS of -65% for the most recent > quarter. Institutional ownership is supposedly only 25%. > > Does anyone have an explanation for the strange EPS nos. and recent price > hike? > > Aloha, > > Mike Gibbons > Proactive Technologies, LLC > http://www.proactech.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Norman > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:34 PM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Ernie's Forecasts > > > Mike, > > Fair question. And I apologize (to all) for going so far "out in the > woods." It's a soap box I carry with me every where I go > > Norm > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Gibbons" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 5:28 PM > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Ernie's Forecasts > > > > My point was simply to say that there is a plausible explanation for the > > occurance of fibonnaci numbers all around us in nature, and to ask the > > question: Is there a plausible explanation for the occurance of fibonacci > > series in stock market waves? > > > > Aloha, > > > > Mike Gibbons > > Proactive Technologies, LLC > > http://www.proactech.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Norman > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:17 PM > > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Ernie's Forecasts > > > > > > I agree David, Mike, that mathematicians and statisticians can find all > > sorts of "correlations" in nature. And, I am also fascinated by these > > little "Easter eggs", to use a programmers phrase for "hidden goodies". > But > > correlation, by definition, does not infer a cause & effect relationship. > > And, I know first hand that if these little circumstances are not > > scrutinized VERY carefully and OBJECTIVELY, then even very intelligent > folks > > can come the wrong conclusion. Plus, there are other variables that can > > affect species in nature besides inheritance. With that, I think I may > have > > come to end of my own intelligence on the matter (did I hear applause), > > and we are waaaayyyyy OT now. Thanks for y'alls (yep, I'm from TX) input. > > > > Norm > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Taggart" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:58 PM > > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Ernie's Forecasts > > > > > > > Norm, > > > > > > Fibonacci ratios are found throughout nature. > > > http://www.brooksdesign-ps.com/Code/Html/godna2.htm also check out The > > > Elliot Wave Theory by Frost it talks a lot about Fib ratios. That being > > > said I dont use them much. > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Original Message----- > > > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > > > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Norman > > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:14 PM > > > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Ernie's Forecasts > > > > > > > > > Hi Maui Mike, > > > > > > OK, on topic and out of the shadows The investors.com chart shows a > > low > > > of 911.06. I know that sometimes there are trades that confound the > > > charting sites, so where can I get the same info you have? > > > > > > As for encoding Fib lines in DNA; that's a little far fetched even for > > this > > > Trekker to consider My ecology understanding dictates that genes > > survive > > > by increasing the reproductive success of the species. Now I can think > > > "outside of the box" as good as the next scientist, but this one doesn't > > > seem to be in the same room with the box Looks like an observation > has > > > been made, now you have postulated a theory, who's gonna test it > > > > > > Elliot wave theory is 'nother story and one that I don't have enuf > > knowledge > > > to address at this time. > > > > > > There, now *that's* OT! > > > > > > Norm > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Mike Gibbons" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:01 PM > > > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Ernie's Forecasts > > > > > > > > > > Norm and kelly, > > > > > > > > I don't want to be picky, but the S&P 500 sank to below 905 at about > > > 10:00. > > > > It then rose and fell again with a turn later in the day at 911. So > the > > > turn > > > > was actually lower than Ernie predicted. > > > > > > > > That said, I do agree that Ernie's forecasts since I've been following > > > them > > > > have certainly been on the money and within what I would consider > > > > "experimental error". > > > > > > > > However, I have the same kind of feeling about Elliot Wave Theory as > > > > Einstein had about the uncertainty principal - without a rational > > > > explanation for why it works (if it does reliably), its hard to > believe > > in > > > > it. > > > > > > > > I can understand fibonacci numbers recurring frequently in nature > > because > > > > they could be somehow encoded in DNA, but I have a hard time seeing > how > > > they > > > > could apply to the stock market. But then again, I haven't put any > time > > > into > > > > trying to understand the causal connection and my comments are based > > > largely > > > > on ignorance. If any member of the group can explain a possible causal > > > > relationship, I would find that helpful. > > > > > > > > Also, why is this off topic? Understanding M is fundamental to CANSLIM > > > > because 75% of stocks go with the flow. > > > > > > > > Aloha, > > > > > > > > Mike Gibbons > > > > Proactive Technologies, LLC > > > > http://www.proactech.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > > > > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Kelly Short > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:36 AM > > > > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > > > > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Ernie's Forecasts > > > > > > > > > > > > Norm, > > > > > > > > I was commenting at lunch at perfectly he called it today and > yesterday. > > > > Almost to the hour. I wonder if he tracks the success of his > > predictions. > > > > > > > > Kelly > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Norman [mailto:theboyd@tisd.net] > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:27 PM > > > > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > > > > Subject: [CANSLIM] Ernie's Forecasts > > > > > > > > > > > > All, > > > > > > > > I know it's a little (OK a lot) off topic, but is interesting. For > > > those > > > > of you who subscribed to Ernie's S&P 500 forecasts, did you notice he > > has > > > > apparently called this one perfectly. He predicted a turn window or > > > > 910-913. Today it turned at 911.06. For now, his crystal ball is > > > working. > > > > For those of you who are not subscribed I copied last nights forecast > > > below. > > > > > > > > Norm > > > > > > > > > > > > Once again today could be the bottom, as we came within a whisker of > the > > > > 910-913 target range, and both of my short term cycle indicators are > > > > suggesting that a turn is imminent. While the next target level of > > 876-884 > > > > is still a possibility, at this point I would have to say that it is > not > > > > very likely that we will go that low. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 910-913 range has emerged as the high probability target for the > > > > termination of this short term down move. The most likely scenario for > > > > tomorrow would be a move slightly lower into the target range or just > > > below > > > > before the market terminates the move, and begins to go higher. The > > second > > > > most likely scenario is that the market will open higher and continue > to > > > > move higher from there. And the third most likely scenario would be a > > > > continuation of the down move possibly as low as 900, with an > intra-day > > > > reversal featuring a closing price above at least 911. Each of these > > > > scenarios involves the 910-913 target range. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Despite the high probability that we are about to make a turn and not > > > likely > > > > to go much lower, until we see the turn confirmation signal this > market > > > > could still reach the lower target range > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > E > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". 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Do not use quotes in your email. > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 23:41:25 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New Member This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0191_01C24FB5.96A90790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sorry, guess I had a cheeseburger and fries on my mind at this late = hour. 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- ------=_NextPart_000_0191_01C24FB5.96A90790-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 23:53:24 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: [CANSLIM] OT?? - sign of the times??? I hope not!! Yahoo traded over 3X ADV and up over 12% after Merrill upgraded it from "sell" to "neutral". Gee, that sure seems like a reason why I would want to own it?? I would admit that lately, "M" seems to respond favorably more often to good news, and tank less. And bad news doesn't seem to be bringing about so many 30-50% declines. But I am still struggling to see an "upgrade" by a major wirehouse from sell to neutral (you won't lose money any faster here than with the rest of the market, but then you won't make any more either, so why not risk your capital) as constituting good news sufficient to buy this stock. Am I missing something here? Tom Worley stkguru@bellsouth.net AIM: TexWorley - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 06:53:38 -0500 From: "Norman" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ Tom, Where do you find data on the number of bankruptcy filings> Norm - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Worley" To: Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ > Hi Norman, > > could well be that a handle is trying to form, but remember, I personally > dislike a drooping handle even if WON advocates it. I bot EPIQ at the bottom > of the cup, in part because I know the stock so well. My stop loss execution > yesterday prematurely ended my fifth round trip in three years, only stock I > have had that many times, much less successfully (profits of 70%, 20%, 30%, > 200 to over 400% and now 25%). > > But I still like the story long term, so likely I will venture into it a > sixth time. But it may also be getting tired, its story has been told so > many times, and even though bankruptcy filings continue to hit new highs, > the belief that the economy would recover did a lot of damage to it over the > past six months. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norman" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:16 AM > Subject: [CANSLIM] EPIQ > > > Tom, > > Is there a handle forming on EPIQs erratic cup? Looks like the vol is low > today; good for a handle. Also seems to have bumped up against a resistance > level. > > Norm > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 07:01:27 -0500 From: "Norman" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New Member Tom, There are several members that I know of who are also members of the yahoo HGS group. Probably due at least in part to Tim (where is he?) who used to mention the methodology now and then. That was where I heard about it. The HGS group often discusses the same topic at the same time, or about the same time, as this group, but they tend to lean more heavily on technical indicators. Norm - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Worley" To: Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] New Member Welcome to the group, Wendy, but I must challenge your belief that HGSI "originated" the term LLUR. It has been in use in this group, introduced by a former member, for a number of years now. PETM is just one of many examples of it that has been discussed here over the years, all clearly noted as LLUR patterns. Guess IBD is not the only outsider stealing material here without attribution, altho this is more blatant than IBD. One member tonight already posted our current list of terms, if you missed it, write me privately and I will forward it to you. Again, welcome, it's a good place to learn CANSLIM. If you have not yet read Wm O'Neil's "How To Make Money In Stocks (3rd edition)" then I strongly recommend you start with that. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Cwyndham@aol.com To: canslim@lists.xmission.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 5:35 PM Subject: [CANSLIM] New Member I'm excited to have found this site. I have been trading options for about 2 years and want to learn about trading stocks. I have a friend that takes the HGSI newsletter because they appear to have a very unique way of explaining investing terminology. For example, they originated the term LLUR and the author has a way of helping me understand. Does this site have a library of terminology that goes into detail like this example? _____________________________________ LLUR is short form for Lower Left to Upper Right. If you look at a chart pattern and it goes straight as an arrow from the lower left hand side of the page to the upper right hand side, hugging its moving averages you have an LLUR! Take a look at PETM - Petsmart when it did just that from September of last year to June of this year, before it finally broke down and paused to refresh. These are good beasts as you sleep easy as you ride them. The 405 Freeway (DTL) - Those of us who live out here on the West Coast in Los Angeles, enjoy riding a nightmare of a Freeway out here in the rush hour which goes essentially diagonally from Upper Left to Lower Right (ULLR if you like) as it meanders from Santa Monica in the North Wast to San Diego in the South East. If you draw a downtrendline (DTL) which connects the highs of a chart pattern of a stock that has corrected, and the stock then rises to break upwards through that line, you are buying North of the 405 Freeway - a healthy situation! I am sure you are none the wiser, but as it so happens I have just finished a five page discussion on the Case Study you have seen mentioned on the bb, and if you look at that attachment to that note just put up, you will see the 405 Freeway depicted on the charts in that study. Welcome aboard, and good hunting. Regards, Ian. ____________________ Wyndy - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 08:05:07 -0400 From: "Tom Worley" Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ there is usually info on this in their news releases, SEC filings, etc. I also periodically pick up stories from Reuters, etc. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman" To: Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ Tom, Where do you find data on the number of bankruptcy filings> Norm - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Worley" To: Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] EPIQ > Hi Norman, > > could well be that a handle is trying to form, but remember, I personally > dislike a drooping handle even if WON advocates it. I bot EPIQ at the bottom > of the cup, in part because I know the stock so well. My stop loss execution > yesterday prematurely ended my fifth round trip in three years, only stock I > have had that many times, much less successfully (profits of 70%, 20%, 30%, > 200 to over 400% and now 25%). > > But I still like the story long term, so likely I will venture into it a > sixth time. But it may also be getting tired, its story has been told so > many times, and even though bankruptcy filings continue to hit new highs, > the belief that the economy would recover did a lot of damage to it over the > past six months. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norman" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:16 AM > Subject: [CANSLIM] EPIQ > > > Tom, > > Is there a handle forming on EPIQs erratic cup? Looks like the vol is low > today; good for a handle. Also seems to have bumped up against a resistance > level. > > Norm > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 08:08:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "DAVID KELLER, BLOOMBERG/ 499 PARK" Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Ernie's Forecasts > THIS IS A MESSAGE IN 'MIME' FORMAT. Your mail reader does not support MIME. > Some parts of this will be readable as plain text. > To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. - --PART.BOUNDARY.2960.10249.n281.1030709293.2256 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-ID: <2960_10249_1030709293_246@n281> even more examples of Fibonacci: bottom of a pine cone (each direction is a Fibonacci number), architecture (Parthenon's columns use Fibonacci proportions), or my personal favorite: music (Beethoven's 5th, Dvorak, etc)... Regarding why it works in the financial markets, check out the S&P from 5/01-12/01. 61.8% almost to the dollar. Think anyone on the street was watching that?... - ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Gibbons At: 8/29 18:06 > Hi Norm, > > My information came from quotetracker as follows: > > > > As for my hypothesis about DNA and fibonacci numbers: DNA transmits the code by > which every organsim develops. So the "shape" of a > plant for example is determined by its DNA. I recall (although its been a long > time ) that fibonacci numbers are found, for example, > in the number of leaves on a fern frond. In other words, that fibonacci pattern > must have been encoded in the DNA in some way. > Presumanbly, also, ferns with that DNA pattern were "fitter" for survival than > ferns that didn't have fibonacci numbers encoded in > their DNA. Now we are definitely off topic, but I enjoy a little intellectual > diversion sometimes. > > Aloha, > > Mike Gibbons > Proactive Technologies, LLC > http://www.proactech.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Norman > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:14 AM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Ernie's Forecasts > > > Hi Maui Mike, > > OK, on topic and out of the shadows The investors.com chart shows a low > of 911.06. I know that sometimes there are trades that confound the > charting sites, so where can I get the same info you have? > > As for encoding Fib lines in DNA; that's a little far fetched even for this > Trekker to consider My ecology understanding dictates that genes survive > by increasing the reproductive success of the species. Now I can think > "outside of the box" as good as the next scientist, but this one doesn't > seem to be in the same room with the box Looks like an observation has > been made, now you have postulated a theory, who's gonna test it > > Elliot wave theory is 'nother story and one that I don't have enuf knowledge > to address at this time. > > There, now *that's* OT! > > Norm > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Gibbons" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:01 PM > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Ernie's Forecasts > > > > Norm and kelly, > > > > I don't want to be picky, but the S&P 500 sank to below 905 at about > 10:00. > > It then rose and fell again with a turn later in the day at 911. So the > turn > > was actually lower than Ernie predicted. > > > > That said, I do agree that Ernie's forecasts since I've been following > them > > have certainly been on the money and within what I would consider > > "experimental error". > > > > However, I have the same kind of feeling about Elliot Wave Theory as > > Einstein had about the uncertainty principal - without a rational > > explanation for why it works (if it does reliably), its hard to believe in > > it. > > > > I can understand fibonacci numbers recurring frequently in nature because > > they could be somehow encoded in DNA, but I have a hard time seeing how > they > > could apply to the stock market. But then again, I haven't put any time > into > > trying to understand the causal connection and my comments are based > largely > > on ignorance. If any member of the group can explain a possible causal > > relationship, I would find that helpful. > > > > Also, why is this off topic? Understanding M is fundamental to CANSLIM > > because 75% of stocks go with the flow. > > > > Aloha, > > > > Mike Gibbons > > Proactive Technologies, LLC > > http://www.proactech.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Kelly Short > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:36 AM > > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Ernie's Forecasts > > > > > > Norm, > > > > I was commenting at lunch at perfectly he called it today and yesterday. > > Almost to the hour. I wonder if he tracks the success of his predictions. > > > > Kelly > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Norman [mailto:theboyd@tisd.net] > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:27 PM > > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > > Subject: [CANSLIM] Ernie's Forecasts > > > > > > All, > > > > I know it's a little (OK a lot) off topic, but is interesting. For > those > > of you who subscribed to Ernie's S&P 500 forecasts, did you notice he has > > apparently called this one perfectly. He predicted a turn window or > > 910-913. Today it turned at 911.06. For now, his crystal ball is > working. > > For those of you who are not subscribed I copied last nights forecast > below. > > > > Norm > > > > > > Once again today could be the bottom, as we came within a whisker of the > > 910-913 target range, and both of my short term cycle indicators are > > suggesting that a turn is imminent. While the next target level of 876-884 > > is still a possibility, at this point I would have to say that it is not > > very likely that we will go that low. > > > > > > > > The 910-913 range has emerged as the high probability target for the > > termination of this short term down move. The most likely scenario for > > tomorrow would be a move slightly lower into the target range or just > below > > before the market terminates the move, and begins to go higher. The second > > most likely scenario is that the market will open higher and continue to > > move higher from there. And the third most likely scenario would be a > > continuation of the down move possibly as low as 900, with an intra-day > > reversal featuring a closing price above at least 911. Each of these > > scenarios involves the 910-913 target range. > > > > > > > > Despite the high probability that we are about to make a turn and not > likely > > to go much lower, until we see the turn confirmation signal this market > > could still reach the lower target range > > > > > > > > E > > > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". 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Hi Norm,

My information came from quotetracker as follows:

As for my hypothesis about DNA and fibonacci numbers: DNA transmits the code by which every organsim develops. So the "shape" of a plant for example is determined by its DNA. I recall (although its been a long time ) that fibonacci numbers are found, for example, in the number of leaves on a fern frond. In other words, that fibonacci pattern must have been encoded in the DNA in some way. Presumanbly, also, ferns with that DNA pattern were "fitter" for survival than ferns that didn't have fibonacci numbers encoded in their DNA. Now we are definitely off topic, but I enjoy a little intellectual diversion sometimes.

Aloha,

Mike Gibbons
Proactive Technologies, LLC
http://www.proactech.com


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[
mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Norman
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:14 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Ernie's Forecasts


Hi Maui Mike,

OK, on topic and out of the shadows<G>  The investors.com chart shows a low
of 911.06.  I know that sometimes there are trades that confound the
charting sites, so where can I get the same info you have?

As for encoding Fib lines in DNA; that's a little far fetched even for this
Trekker to consider<G>  My ecology understanding dictates that genes survive
by increasing the reproductive success of the species.  Now I can think
"outside of the box" as good as the next scientist, but this one doesn't
seem to be in the same room with the box<g>  Looks like an observation has
been made, now you have postulated a theory, who's gonna test it<G>

Elliot wave theory is 'nother story and one that I don't have enuf knowledge
to address at this time.

There, now *that's* OT!

Norm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gibbons" <mikegibbons@proactech.com>
To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:01 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Ernie's Forecasts


> Norm and kelly,
>
> I don't want to be picky, but the S&P 500 sank to below 905 at about
10:00.
> It then rose and fell again with a turn later in the day at 911. So the
turn
> was actually lower than Ernie predicted.
>
> That said, I do agree that Ernie's forecasts since I've been following
them
> have certainly been on the money and within what I would consider
> "experimental error".
>
> However, I have the same kind of feeling about Elliot Wave Theory as
> Einstein had about the uncertainty principal - without a rational
> explanation for why it works (if it does reliably), its hard to believe in
> it.
>
> I can understand fibonacci numbers recurring frequently in nature because
> they could be somehow encoded in DNA, but I have a hard time seeing how
they
> could apply to the stock market. But then again, I haven't put any time
into
> trying to understand the causal connection and my comments are based
largely
> on ignorance. If any member of the group can explain a possible causal
> relationship, I would find that helpful.
>
> Also, why is this off topic? Understanding M is fundamental to CANSLIM
> because 75% of stocks go with the flow.
>
> Aloha,
>
> Mike Gibbons
> Proactive Technologies, LLC
>
http://www.proactech.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
> [
mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Kelly Short
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:36 AM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Ernie's Forecasts
>
>
> Norm,
>
> I was commenting at lunch at perfectly he called it today and yesterday.
> Almost to the hour. I wonder if he tracks the success of his predictions.
>
> Kelly
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Norman [
mailto:theboyd@tisd.net]
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:27 PM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: [CANSLIM] Ernie's Forecasts
>
>
> All,
>
> I know it's a little (OK a lot<G>) off topic, but is interesting.  For
those
> of you who subscribed to Ernie's S&P 500 forecasts, did you notice he has
> apparently called this one perfectly.  He predicted a turn window or
> 910-913.  Today it turned at 911.06.  For now, his crystal ball is
working.
> For those of you who are not subscribed I copied last nights forecast
below.
>
> Norm
>
>
> Once again today could be the bottom, as we came within a whisker of the
> 910-913 target range, and both of my short term cycle indicators are
> suggesting that a turn is imminent. While the next target level of 876-884
> is still a possibility, at this point I would have to say that it is not
> very likely that we will go that low.
>
>
>
> The 910-913 range has emerged as the high probability target for the
> termination of this short term down move. The most likely scenario for
> tomorrow would be a move slightly lower into the target range or just
below
> before the market terminates the move, and begins to go higher. The second
> most likely scenario is that the market will open higher and continue to
> move higher from there. And the third most likely scenario would be a
> continuation of the down move possibly as low as 900, with an intra-day
> reversal featuring a closing price above at least 911. Each of these
> scenarios involves the 910-913 target range.
>
>
>
> Despite the high probability that we are about to make a turn and not
likely
> to go much lower, until we see the turn confirmation signal this market
> could still reach the lower target range
>
>
>
> E
>
>
>
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