From: RPPeek@aol.com Subject: Re: 4 Rooms Date: 01 Jan 1996 01:12:09 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# RPPeek@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Couldn't agree more about "4 Rooms." Aside from the wonderful music, I can't remember the last time I went to a movie that was more of a roller coaster ride than this one. I'm still in hysterics from the final 3 seconds... And my first purchase of the new year will be the soundtrack. Preston Peek VINYL LIVES! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: T P Uschanov Subject: Re: Burt?!!! Date: 01 Jan 1996 15:11:09 +0200 (EET) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# T P Uschanov <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. There's also a Bacharach home page. Don't remember the address, but there's a link to it on mine. T P Uschanov (Mr), University of Helsinki, Finland, European Union. tuschano@cc.helsinki.fi ---- http://www.helsinki.fi/~tuschano/ "Property is theft." (Pierre-Joseph Proudhon) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: Dick Dale Date: 01 Jan 1996 20:37:43 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. since Dick Dale's "Misirlou" was used in the film "Pulp fiction", it gets a lot of air play here in Belgium. I think it is one hell of a song, especially because it has this Ennio Morricone thing about it thanx to that great trumpet. I was wondering if all of Dale's songs (as on the Rhino CD "BEST OF-KING OF SURF GUITAR" - RHi75756) have that same sound? - -johan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PeteKitsch@aol.com Subject: Re: The Exotic Trilogy Date: 01 Jan 1996 13:46:26 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# PeteKitsch@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Mark_Freitas.LANTE@lante.com wrote: > What Billy Mure records have people found to be good? My faves are > Hawaiian Percussion and Supersonic Guitars (both volumes!) I have > some other records of his which are just sort of mushy. Are there > other worthwhile guitarish Mure albums besides the ones I've mentioned? Fireworks! is definitely one of my all-time faves... a splendid mix of both "mushy" songs and ultra rockin' supersonic guitar songs (though I must admit I have yet to find an album by Mr. Mure that's been disappointing.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lucien@interport.net (Lucien Samaha) Subject: Greatest Film Score Date: 01 Jan 1996 15:44:02 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lucien@interport.net (Lucien Samaha) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >I guess they aren't really "Exotica", per se, but my two faves would >probably be "Juliet of the Spirits" (Nino Rota) and "Danger:Diabolik"(Ennio >Morricone).Also two of my favorite films!"Forbidden Planet"(Louis and Bebe >Bardon) is a real contender, too, and perhaps more in the "Exotic" vein. "Juliet of the Spirits" sure has my vote as well as does Danger Diabolik; but, whereas the former is now abundantly available, (finally), the latter doesn't seem to exist anywhere. I look for it all the time, and also to "The Tenth Victim". Was Danger Diabolik ever issued?? lucien ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lucien@interport.net (Lucien Samaha) Subject: Re: Greatest Film Score Date: 01 Jan 1996 15:44:34 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lucien@interport.net (Lucien Samaha) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >Rota not exotica? Hardly. The more I hear of the 3 Suns, the more >those early Rota soundtracks seem to fit the same category, whatever >you want to call it. Much similarity in the cheesy arrangements. >Listen to On A Magic Carpet and tell me it doesn't >sound like Fellini music :) ! > >The Rota soundtracks to La Dolce Vita, Juliet of the Spirits and 8 >1/2 run a close second for me to Bacharach's Casino Royale. In the >may or may not be exotica category, there's Walter Carlos' full score >to A Clockwork Orange which is no less than amazing. Actually, I'd like to add that the Lalo Schifrin "Mission: Impossible" album is outstanding, although not exotica and although not a film score. But wait, I saw yesterday the trailer for the MOVIE MISSION:IMPOSSIBLE due for release in mid 96 starring no other than Tom Cruise. And what's so cool, they kept the original greatest of all themes. Too bad the Batman folks didn't have a clue. lucien ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lucien@interport.net (Lucien Samaha) Subject: Ronnie Aldrich Date: 01 Jan 1996 15:44:45 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lucien@interport.net (Lucien Samaha) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >anybody know much about ronnie aldrich and his two pianos and orchestra? >i just scored a thrift store copy of a record by him in perfect condition >called "this way in" that is absolutely tweaked easy listening/light pop >covers (absolutely essential "mcarthur park" that speeds up at the end >and "mrs. robinson" that rocks as hard as the original sans vocal.) who >is this man and what else has he done? I've got a few Aldriches, but mostly for the sumptuously sixties album covers and the usually really cheap prices. I agree with your review of the music, but I do have one LP on Phase 4, that has a great cover of VENUS that I play when I DJ, and even the most reluctants get up and dance and sing along.... lucien ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lucien@interport.net (Lucien Samaha) Subject: another film soundtrack never issued Date: 01 Jan 1996 15:45:28 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lucien@interport.net (Lucien Samaha) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. If we can manage to get Danger:Diabolik, another one of my faves that I've been seeking out but can't manage to get any info on is the original "A Bout de Souffle" or Breathless. Supposedly the launch of the French New Wave with Jean-Paul Belmondo and Jean Seberg directed by no other than Godard, with music credits going to Martial Solal, whom I believe is still alive (??). Anybody know of anything on this great music?? lucien ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow (via RadioMail) Subject: "Breathless" music Date: 01 Jan 1996 14:14:23 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Brad Bigelow (via RadioMail) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. <# lucien@interport.net (Lucien Samaha) wrote: >If we can manage to get Danger:Diabolik, another one of my faves that I've >been seeking out but can't manage to get any info on is the original "A >Bout de Souffle" or Breathless. Supposedly the launch of the French New >Wave with Jean-Paul Belmondo and Jean Seberg directed by no other than >Godard, with music credits going to Martial Solal, whom I believe is still >alive (??). Anybody know of anything on this great music?? According to my trusty film encyclopedia, the music by Solal is a jazz interpretation of Mozart's Clarinet Concerto, K.622. Brad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) Subject: Re: Greatest Film Score Date: 01 Jan 1996 17:50:50 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. 0n 1/1/96 lucien@interport.net (Lucien Samaha) wrote: >"Juliet of the Spirits" sure has my vote as well as does Danger Diabolik; >but, whereas the former is now abundantly available, (finally), the latter >doesn't seem to exist anywhere. I look for it all the time, and also to >"The Tenth Victim". Ah, yes, "The Tenth Victim". Really hard to find, especially in stereo. But worth the hunt, even though the main title theme is repeated about 5 times, and the fidelity is very low. The title track, with vocal by Mina, is exhilarating, and there's lots of wild Elka organ throughout. I heard a rumor last year that Rhino might be reissuing this, but it hasn't appeared and I never heard anything more about it. So far, there is no Italian (CAM) CD of it. Hopefully someday someone will put it out, and remaster it to its full glory. The cover art can be viewed in the Jack Diamond record gallery. br cleve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: anita_serwacki@newlinecinema.com (ANITA SERWACKI) Subject: Re[2]: Friends of Dean Mart Date: 02 Jan 1996 10:43:58 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# anita_serwacki@newlinecinema.com (ANITA SERWACKI) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I'm a bit late on this topic since I've been away for the holidays. I saw Friends of Dean Martinez live a few months ago and bought their album on vinyl at the show. The record's very good but I highly recommend seeing them live if possible. Better than the recorded stuff, their live performance was hypnotic. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: "kevin king" at Internet <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "kevin king" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > Has anyone heard any of the music by a band called the Friends of > Dean Martinez (formerly the Friends of Dean Martin until legal > issues arose)? A review in the current issue of Option describes > them with references to Esquivel, the Ventures, lounge jazz and > spaghetti westerns. Sounds interesting, but its on Sub Pop, the > home of grunge (though also the home of Combustible Edison), so > I'm a wee bit wary. Believe it or not, I saw a video of theirs on MTV! They are quite good musicians. The single (don't remember the name and it's the only one I've heard) is decidedly, authenticallly exotic. It's not at all a rawk hybrid. Very Denny influenced, loverly. The above mentioned references to the Ventures and Morricone are also prominent. No idea what the rest of the cd sounds like, though. cheers! kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric_Drysdale@kaplan.com (Eric Drysdale) Subject: Be a pepper! Date: 02 Jan 1996 11:41:31 GMT <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Eric_Drysdale@kaplan.com (Eric Drysdale) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Happy New Year, all. Found a most unusual record this weekend. Not exotica, but odd. It's called "The Original Cast Album: Dr. Pepper, the Most Original Soft Drink Ever." It seems to be an internal promo for Dr. Pepper sales managers (in 1974, before it was bought out by who, coke? pepsi?) packaged as a faux-broadway soundtrack. It's a beautiful gate-fold with "scenes" from the "Musical", and an insert poster with images from the different campaigns. It has an instrumental "Overture", and then 6 "scenes" from the musical, which were each used as T.V. ads. Then, It features Eubie Blake, Doc Watson, Anita O'Day and Muddy Waters singing their own versions of the Dr. Pepper theme song. All of them are excellent, and the music is unmistakable as the work of Randy Newman. As if that weren't enough, the one-sided album features a very groovy moire effect on the blank side, and the label is a big Dr. Pepper bottlecap. - -E ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: riviera@tiac.net Subject: Reverse Exotica Date: 02 Jan 1996 13:03:35 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# riviera@tiac.net <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >From: MEIXELLR@FLP.LIB.PA.US >Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 9:29:51 -0500 (EST) >To: exotica@xmission.xmission.com >Subject: Arabic Exotica? >Sender: owner-exotica@xmission.com >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: MEIXELLR@FLP.LIB.PA.US > ><# Replies to this message will go to: ><# MEIXELLR@FLP.LIB.PA.US ><# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. ><# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > Some of their work is relatively >straight, fairly traditional, Arabic music (which I like), but much of it is a >little skewed, mixing in Western "colors" and making wonderful use of electric >and electronic instruments. This is the kind of thing I always refer to as "Reverse Exotica", i.e.music from farflung locales that would be considered "Exotic" over here, appropriating western pop styles with the same enjoyably disorienting effect as the home grown variety of Exotica. Hindi film music is an endless argosy of this kind of thing, with the added bonus that there are usually equally mind-bending visuals to go with the tunes!Incidentally, I'm no authority on "filmi";if anyone has expertise to share on this subject, I'd love to learn more. >Most of this music is readily available on CD or cassette, which might actually >make it less interesting to many of you. I'm always happy to learn that something cool is readily available!The aforementioned Hindipop is also widely available at indian spice/video/convenience stores .Cassettes are usually pretty cheap, which makes taking a chance a little less risky, although cassettes have got to be the worst recording format ever. Insh'Allah!(sic) Riviera ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tart@SIRIUS.COM Subject: Re: "Breathless" music Date: 02 Jan 1996 10:05:16 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# tart@sirius.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. <# lucien@interport.net (Lucien Samaha) wrote: >If we can manage to get Danger:Diabolik, another one of my faves that I've >been seeking out but can't manage to get any info on is the original "A >Bout de Souffle" or Breathless. Supposedly the launch of the French New >Wave with Jean-Paul Belmondo and Jean Seberg directed by no other than >Godard, with music credits going to Martial Solal, whom I believe is still >alive (??). Anybody know of anything on this great music. Some of the pop music included in "Breathless" is that of the great Sandy Shaw. I doubt much of her music of that era (and sung in French) is in print, but I have been able to locate used copies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "K. Schiele" Subject: enoch light - disco... Date: 02 Jan 1996 10:16:22 -0800 (PST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "K. Schiele" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hey all, I recently scored a record by Enoch Light at a thrift store, it's called "discoteque" (sp?), and I got it for $1.00. I've never heard 'em, but bought it based on the repeated mention of them on this list. And to top it all off, my turntable is on the fritz - and I can't listen to it right now. Any comments? Value (OK shape, not mint)? Representative of their other LPs? Ken S. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Swartz Subject: HELP Date: 02 Jan 1996 10:16:55 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Jeff Swartz <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. HELP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: Re: Nuevo Surf/Spaghetti Groups Date: 02 Jan 1996 20:47:02 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. ensley@gulf.net (Mike Ensley) wrote: >And for you Incredibly Strange Music types, get Thee Shatners LP. It's an >album of Star Trek related surf tunes by guys who play decked out in >original Trek uniforms. It's brilliant. could you please share the label & # & origin info of this one with us? this reminds me of a 33 rpm 7" i once bought from norton records: "fuck you spaceman!" (planet pimp records 001, 1992) with the mummies ("doin' the kirk" :) & the phantom surfers & best of all: a beautiful (but short) accordeon version of the star trek theme by one alicia rose Greetings from Johan johan.devis@ping.be (home: Wivina 15, 1702, Belgium) A HAPPY A HEALTHY NEW YEAR TO YOU ! ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KRIS@MOM.SPIE.ORG Subject: Surf Trouble and My Email Wipeout . . . the thread that wouldn't die. Date: 02 Jan 1996 10:56:37 -0800 (PST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# KRIS@MOM.SPIE.ORG <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Please pardon my tardy response, but I've been away. >Kent wrote: > >>Get a Dick Dale, a Ventures and a good comp or two and you will have all the >>surf you'll need. > >I couldn't agree more. Well said. And now I have all sorts of grief. ;) I agree that there are all manner of overlooked surf bands out there that could Watusi all over the Ventures whilst simultaneously throttling Dick Dale and his blistered fingers. Which is why I concurred with Kent's "good comp. or two..." statements. This whole surf con- versation was in response to somebody's question about what is essential for one to own when shopping for surf/hot rod/etc. and I feel that those are two that are easily accesible to the uninitiated ear and will be easy to find at the local shops. From there one can certainly delve into lesser knowns like the Frogmen, Pyramids, and journey out to bars to witness the new breed in action. Being a huge fan of surf, I would encourage everyone to check out the genre with more than a cursory glance... but like Powerpop, surf in heavy doses can make the ear tired and blur the lines between artists-- even with such disparate sounds as Bruce Johnston vs. the Trashmen. Dig them all, and know that the "sound" can be mutated with amazing results... but there is a delectable world of musical food out there, don't limit your palate. All in my opinion of course. Thanks for reading. Kris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: markj@mtn.org (Mark Jung) Subject: looking for a Buddy Ebsen LP Date: 02 Jan 1996 13:10:02 -0600 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# markj@mtn.org (Mark Jung) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. A friend of mine's looking for a nice copy of "Buddy Ebsen Says Howdy" (and the title says it all) - anyone got one they'd be willing to part with? There's a really frightening cut from it on the new "fake cowboy" compilation from Rhino - Reply via e-mail, please - thanks! Mark markj@mtn.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paco Ojeda_Gonzalez" Subject: Thanks for surf recommendat Date: 02 Jan 1996 14:30:19 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Paco Ojeda_Gonzalez" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Mail*Link(r) SMTP Thanks for surf recommendations! As a response to my query, I received quite a number of recommendations for surf music both through the list and directly to my e-mail address. Many thanks to you all! And best wishes for the new year. Paco Ojeda Boston, MA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paco Ojeda_Gonzalez" Subject: My two cents on 4 Rooms Date: 02 Jan 1996 14:26:59 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Paco Ojeda_Gonzalez" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Mail*Link(r) SMTP My two cents on 4 Rooms br cleve writes: > Has anyone in the group here seen the movie "4 Rooms" > yet? I must recommend it, especially for the joy of > hearing Combustible Edison and Esquivel in a movie > theatre. I loved the music, much more than the film itself... I'm afraid that in terms of the overal film, I do side with most of the critics. On the other hand, listening to the music was truly exciting. I'm going to get the soundtrack to it. > I got tingles up my spine listening to Miss Banquet's > wild vocal over the cartoon opening credits (much like > the delights from the Mirisch Corporation back in my > youth). My favorite such sequence is the one from the beginning of Blake Edwards' "The Great Race," gorgeously scored by Mancini. Are there any CD's available by Combustible Edison? I have been unsuccessful in finding anything by them other than the soundtrack for the movie. Paco ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Favreau Subject: Re: My two cents on 4 Rooms Date: 02 Jan 1996 15:47:41 EST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Richard Favreau <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. At 02:26 PM 1/2/96 -0500, Paco wrote: >Are there any CD's available by Combustible Edison? I have been unsuccessful >in finding anything by them other than the soundtrack for the movie. > >Paco > > There's a CD called 'I, Swinger'.. Some time ago I downloaded a sample from the following website which you may want to visit: http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/jpmckay/www/swank.html Happy listening! - --Rick Richard Favreau Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. San Francisco, California rfavreau@schwab.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Message-ID: <960102205636_702420.204300_BHD60-60@CompuServe.COM> Date: 02 Jan 1996 15:56:37 EST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. to help announce and promote our version of lounge music cum spy music cum cocktail music entitled SHAKEN NOT STIRRED we have given a whole bag o' prizes to the Space Age Bachelor Pad Music site on the WWW. they have set up a contest that any and all can play. it's very fun and very cheeky (at least we hope so). play it often, play it to win, play it for fun and profit. Space Age Bachelor Pad Music on the World Wide Web: http://www.interport.net/~joholmes/index.html pass this information on to every one you know, including those folks in the fourth estate. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ David Greenberg hifi@rykodisc.com HIFI/Rykodisc Shetland Park 27 Congress St. Salem MA 01915 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Stewart" Subject: New CD releases Date: 02 Jan 1996 16:53:48 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Bryan Stewart" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. For those who will have nothing to do with CDs, skip this message. For the rest of us, here are a few reissues I have heard about. I have already mentioned some of these with a couple of you. Scamp/Caroline will issue two-fers of Martin Denny's "Exotica/Exotica, Vol.II" and "Forbidden Island/Primitiva" in the spring of 1996. It will have new liner notes written by Denny himself. I personally liked the "Afro-desia" release, but some others may have a different opinion. To each his own. BMG/RCA of Germany has released the following CDs from their 'Living Stereo' series: "The Other Chet Atkins" (RCA-29854) "Esquivel, his Piano & Group - 4 Corners of the World" (RCA-2985) "More music from Peter Gunn, composed & conducted by Henri Mancini" (RCA-29857) "The Blues and the Beat" - Henri Mancini (RCA-26047) "Hello Blues" - Floyd Cramer (RCA-29859) "Town & Country" - The Browns (RCA-29851) "Prez" - Perez Prado (RCA-26052) "Oh Johnny" - Johnny Restivo (RCA-29858) "Sweet & Savage" - Los Indios Tabajaras (RCA-29852) There is also an audiophile sampler that tests the stereo separation of your speakers. The catalogue # is (RCA-27306). If anyone has more info on these, let me know. I don't know how good they are so.... Bryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MEIXELLR@FLP.LIB.PA.US Subject: Abdel Halim Hafez Date: 02 Jan 1996 16:22:06 -0500 (EST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# MEIXELLR@FLP.LIB.PA.US <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. One Arabic singer not very well know over here, Abdel Halim Hafez, recorded a lot of songs with an unusual mix of styles in them. "Qariat el Fengan" begins with the usual dramatic violins, adds what sounds like moog synthesiser (being played in a manner not unlike Sun-Ra's), and moves into a Hawaiian sounding passage, very uptempo passages with lots of percussion, etc. "Fatet Ganbena" sounded unbearably sweet to me the first time I heard it, but eventually I got to enjoy the quirkiness of the transitions. "Hawel Teftakerni" (by Baligh Hamdi) has a wonderful psychedelic beginning. The largest (legit.?) distributor of Arabic music in the U.S. is Rashid Sales Co., 191 Atlantic Ave., Brooklyn, NY 11201. Lately I've been listening over and over to an instrumental version of a song Magida el Roumi (a Lebanese singer) sings. It has a keyboard that sounds very much like a duck, and yet it also has haunting melodies passing in and out of it and is rhythmically quite good. I find it strangely compelling. - --Rudy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ceco@rt66.com (don cephus) Subject: Re: Abdel Halim Hafez Date: 02 Jan 1996 14:31:22 MST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# ceco@Rt66.com (don cephus) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. At 04:22 PM 1/2/96 -0500, MEIXELLR@FLP.LIB.PA.US wrote: ><# Replies to this message will go to: ><# MEIXELLR@FLP.LIB.PA.US ><# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. ><# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > >One Arabic singer not very well know over here, Abdel Halim Hafez, recorded a >lot of songs with an unusual mix of styles in them. "Qariat el Fengan" begins >with the usual dramatic violins, adds what sounds like moog synthesiser (being >played in a manner not unlike Sun-Ra's), and moves into a Hawaiian sounding >passage, very uptempo passages with lots of percussion, etc. "Fatet Ganbena" >sounded unbearably sweet to me the first time I heard it, but eventually I got >to enjoy the quirkiness of the transitions. "Hawel Teftakerni" (by Baligh >Hamdi) has a wonderful psychedelic beginning. > >The largest (legit.?) distributor of Arabic music in the U.S. is Rashid Sales >Co., 191 Atlantic Ave., Brooklyn, NY 11201. > >Lately I've been listening over and over to an instrumental version of a song >Magida el Roumi (a Lebanese singer) sings. It has a keyboard that sounds very >much like a duck, and yet it also has haunting melodies passing in and out of >it and is rhythmically quite good. I find it strangely compelling. > >--Rudy > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ceco@rt66.com (don cephus) Subject: Re: My two cents on 4 Rooms Date: 02 Jan 1996 14:30:59 MST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# ceco@Rt66.com (don cephus) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. At 03:47 PM 1/2/96 EST, Richard Favreau wrote: ><# Replies to this message will go to: ><# Richard Favreau ><# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. ><# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > >At 02:26 PM 1/2/96 -0500, Paco wrote: > >>Are there any CD's available by Combustible Edison? I have been unsuccessful >>in finding anything by them other than the soundtrack for the movie. >> >>Paco >> >> >There's a CD called 'I, Swinger'.. Some time ago I downloaded a sample from >the following website which you may want to visit: > > >http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/jpmckay/www/swank.html > > >Happy listening! > >--Rick > > > >Richard Favreau >Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. >San Francisco, California > >rfavreau@schwab.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: New CD releases Date: 02 Jan 1996 17:36:06 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# LTepedino@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Thanks for the plug on the new Scamp releases - boy news travels quickly! By the way there's even more Denny two-fers after these coming. I have just recently logged on to this Exotica chat page so I haven't read anything about the "debate" alluded in your message concerning "Afro-Desia". Let me just say for those wondering about the sound - Mr. Denny greatly approves of the CD noting that it's the first time anybody got the sound right (i.e. the mix between the harsh tones of the primitive instruments with the more rounded ones of the vides and piano). All previous CD incarnations he felt were "smoothed over" and the sound "softened". He especially loves how the tsetse fly sound (which by the way was someone putting a reed in their mouth and moving between two microphiones) was properly brought out. Mr. Denny remarked how he never intened that track to be commercially palatable, he wanted the sound to be as un-nerving as a fly buzzing around your head does get! And just to dispell the idea a lot of us have that the Japanese always seem to get reissues right - the Japanese 29 track comp "The Exotic Sounds Of Martin Denny" features the "Afro-Desia" track "Ma'Chumba" with the right and left stereo channels mistakenly reversed! As for the BMG releases - I have picked up the Esquivel "Four Corners" and as the Esquivel specialists on this chat line will I'm sure confirm this doesn't rank as one of his best albums. It does however include 3 extra tracks "Granada", "Guadalajara" and "I Love Paris" - to keep with the geographic theme. Regards Ashley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: New CD releases Date: 02 Jan 1996 19:13:00 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "kevin king" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Bryan wrote: > BMG/RCA of Germany has released the following CDs from their 'Living Stereo' > series: > > "The Other Chet Atkins" (RCA-29854) > "Esquivel, his Piano & Group - 4 Corners of the World" (RCA-2985) > "More music from Peter Gunn, composed & conducted by Henri Mancini" (RCA-29857) > "The Blues and the Beat" - Henri Mancini (RCA-26047) > "Hello Blues" - Floyd Cramer (RCA-29859) > "Town & Country" - The Browns (RCA-29851) > "Prez" - Perez Prado (RCA-26052) > "Oh Johnny" - Johnny Restivo (RCA-29858) > "Sweet & Savage" - Los Indios Tabajaras (RCA-29852) The Blues and the Beat is great! It includes a few bonus tracks from Uniquely Mancini and one from The Big Band Sound Of Henry Mancini. The liner notes mention a few other BMG cd releases that may be of interest: Chet Atkins' Teensville (intriguing cover) and The Three Suns' Twighlight Memories. Any opinions on either of these? kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DaveL" Subject: Re: The Music of Peter Gunn Date: 02 Jan 1996 19:31:06 -0600 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "DaveL" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Johan De Vis writes: > so i checked cdconnection; i found a Henry Mancini cd entitled "Peter > Gunn", but i'm not sure if it is the soundtrack or just another cheap > compilation, as it is on the budget label Laserlight (#15412); anyone > familiar with this cd? This is _not_ Peter Gunn the soundtrack, but a misleadingly-titled compilation on, as you mention, an ultra-budget CD reissue label. It's actually not bad for $6.72 or whatever cdconnection has it for; if I was at home I'd be able to list the tracks, but it seems to me that it has one or two from Peter Gunn & something from Mr. Lucky along with ten or twelve others. (Anyone?) I'd keep looking for the actual soundtrack to the show - it's great! The Laserlight comp may actually be something of a disappointment to many on this list. Incidentally, didn't someone, maybe br cleve, say something recently about RCA having deleted the Peter Gunn CD (along with the follow-up) _and_ Mr. Lucky!? Oh, and BTW, as long as we're discussing Mancini: you owe it to yourself to search far and wide for the "Experiment in Terror" soundtrack LP. The title cut is absolutely amazing! I suppose I could throw in a mention for "Arabesque" as well(!), and the first "Pink Panther"... (Don't get me started.) dave /\\ \\ \\ \\ / \\ \\ \\ \\ arouet records / \\ \\ \\ \\ ZING! ZING! -----------// // // //------> arouet@winternet.com \ // // // // \// // // // fnast! image ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lucien@interport.net (Lucien Samaha) Subject: 10th victim Date: 02 Jan 1996 21:01:02 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lucien@interport.net (Lucien Samaha) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. bcleve 1/1/96: "Ah, yes, "The Tenth Victim". Really hard to find, especially in stereo." I forgot to mention that this fantastic film is available in video and is a must for any Sixties fanatic. You can at least enjoy the music that way. lucien ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow (via RadioMail) Subject: "Experiment in Terror" Date: 02 Jan 1996 18:20:00 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Brad Bigelow (via RadioMail) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. <# "DaveL" wrote: >Oh, and BTW, as long as we're discussing Mancini: you owe it to yourself to >search far and wide for the "Experiment in Terror" soundtrack LP. The title >cut is absolutely amazing! Even better is Laika and the Cosmonaut's remake of this cut on their "Instruments of Terror" CD. One of my personal top 5 faves. Brad Bigelow bbigelow@radiomail.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Fave Film/TV soundtracks Date: 02 Jan 1996 20:48:45 +0000 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Bernard Herrman-Day The Earth Stood Still Henry Mancini-Touch of Evil Pierro Piccioni-10th Victim Quincy Jones-In Cold Blood Henry Mancini-Peter Gunn The creator of an original sound Henry Mancini-More Music From Peter Gunn Pete Rugolo-Richard Diamond (no relation) Henry Mancini-Arabesque Henry Mancini-Experiment in Terror Johnny Mandel-I Want To Live Sid Ramin-Stiletto I know there are more ;) Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Verushka/Morricone? Date: 03 Jan 1996 01:39:16 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "kevin king" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Has anyone heard of a movie called Verushka/Poesia de una Donna? The soundtrack was by Morricone. I wonder if the name refers to the 60's mod model. The only other film I know with her is Antonioni's Blow-Up which has a truly amazing, if not exotica, jazz rock soundtrack by Herbie Hancock (probably my favorite outside of exotica and classical (any Nyman work for Greenaway)). Any idea of what this Morricone soundtrack is like? kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: riviera@tiac.net Subject: BMG releases Date: 03 Jan 1996 02:40:19 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# riviera@tiac.net <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >Bryan wrote: >> BMG/RCA of Germany has released the following CDs from their 'Living Stereo' >> series:--- >The liner notes mention a few other BMG cd releases that may be of >interest: Chet Atkins' Teensville (intriguing cover) and The Three >Suns' Twighlight Memories. Any opinions on either of these? Both thumbs up in my book. Chet Atkins' "Teensville" has a peculiar tune called "Boo Boo Stick Beat"that features a rythym section of mailing tubes being banged together."Twilight Memories" is a "re-recorded-in-stereo greatest hits" sort of thing. It features their dynamic interpretation of "Delicado" as well as the Three Suns signature tune, "Twilight Time" and a bunch of other fine selections,with arrangements by Charles Albertine. iCiao! Riviera ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: T P Uschanov Subject: Re: Capitol neglect Date: 03 Jan 1996 13:25:10 +0200 (EET) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# T P Uschanov <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. On Tue, 2 Jan 1996 Jon Johnson wrote: > I agree that the Louis Prima collection is solid, but think Capitol could > do better by *another* guy who made them a lot of money. I run a record store > and the Collectors' Series Prima disc is a consistant seller. Capitol should > take note of that fact and put out either a second volume, a more > comprehensive 3-disc boxed set or--very unlikely--a serious re-issue program > of the original albums. But Bear Family already has a CD box set of every side Louis, Keely and Sam Butera made for Capitol. Eight solid discs! - -tp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Desmond K. Hill" Subject: obscure adventures with Jean-Jacques Perrey Date: 02 Jan 1996 22:20:14 +0000 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Desmond K. Hill" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. New Year & a new subscription to the exotica-list. Forgive my inexperience, but I'd like to request the assistance of elder members to cast a reflective glance backwards. 'Am trying to uncover data regarding the obscure composer Jean Jacques Perrey. Born in France in 1929, he came to prominence when Edith Piaf organised a trans-Atlantic crossing on his behalf. Relocating to New York in 1960, Perrey was one of the first Moog musicians, creating weird beatnik electronic jams, before inventing what he himself called, 'a new process' for generating rhythms utilizing musique concrete sounds. This was evident on albums like 'The In Sound From Way Out' & 'Kaleidoscopic Vibrations: Spotlight on the Moog' apparently, in collaboration with Gershon Kingsley (one of Cage's accolades of the 1960s). Can anyone possibly ellucidate further? The little material I've absorbed by Perrey has intrigued all listeners & am eager to hunt more. In particular 'am attempting to locate places, (ideally in the U.K.) where I might purchase vinyl recordings of any of Perrey's solo experimental works, which might lie close to 'exotic' but a little distanced from 'exotica'. 'Is this the right place?' I wonder. Any suggestions gratefully received. Is there a news group for example which might offer assistance? regards, des Desmond K. Hill ?(._. ) ( ._.)? (._. ) ( ._.)? Writer & researcher For television, radio, print & electronic-media Voice: +44 (01) 91 233 1042 E-mail: des@anubis23.demon.co.uk Address: 18 Victoria Street, Summerhill, Newcastle upon Tyne. NE4 7JU England ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: Be a pepper! (FORWARDED MESSAGE) Date: 02 Jan 1996 13:35:29 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Lazlo Nibble <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. <# TO REPLY TO THE ORIGINAL SENDER OF THIS MESSAGE, SEND EMAIL TO: <# <# Bruce Rhodewalt Eric Drysdale wrote: > > <# Replies to this message will go to: > <# Eric_Drysdale@kaplan.com (Eric Drysdale) > <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. > <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > > Happy New Year, all. > > Found a most unusual record this weekend. Not exotica, but odd. It's > called "The Original Cast Album: Dr. Pepper, the Most Original Soft Drink > Ever." It seems to be an internal promo for Dr. Pepper sales managers (in > 1974, before it was bought out by who, coke? pepsi?) packaged as a > faux-broadway soundtrack. It's a beautiful gate-fold with "scenes" from the > "Musical", and an insert poster with images from the different campaigns. > It has an instrumental "Overture", and then 6 "scenes" from the musical, > which were each used as T.V. ads. Then, It features Eubie Blake, Doc > Watson, Anita O'Day and Muddy Waters singing their own versions of the Dr. > Pepper theme song. All of them are excellent, and the music is unmistakable > as the work of Randy Newman. As if that weren't enough, the one-sided album > features a very groovy moire effect on the blank side, and the label is a > big Dr. Pepper bottlecap. > > -E Well, that sounds almost as nice as my "Music to Drink Bubble Up By!" album from 1961, with radio promos ("We take a kiss of lemon, a kiss of lime!"). "Operating on the sound principal that if one jingle is good, eight good jingles must be great, Bubble Up proudly presents a take-home 8-pack of eight great melodies." Includes "Bubble Up Cha Cha Cha" (of course), "Lemon-Lime Merengue" and "Down by the Old Bubble Up Stream." Bruce __________________________________________________________ | | | / | Tiki Publishing - -- -- | | | | http://www.tikipub.com | | / | Bruce Rhodewalt, Owner | | \ | 78-365 Highway 111, #241 | | | | | La Quinta, CA 92253 | | | \ | 619/342-3418 -- -- -- -- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) Subject: Re: 4 Rooms Date: 02 Jan 1996 20:13:40 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. At 8:04 PM 12/31/95, Brother Cleve wrote: >Has anyone in the group here seen the movie "4 Rooms" yet? I saw it on opening day here in L.A. and I've been waiting to see the comments on this list. I have to say the best thing about it is the soundtrack. It may be an aural illusion, but it seems that the editing on the soundtrack in the film varies significantly from the CD. I like the CD very much, but it seems that maybe the versions in the film run longer, or something (maybe the CE members on the list can fill us in). And was I napping when the "Bewitched" theme was played? I don't remember hearing it or seeing it in the credits. But other than that, here are some ups & downs: UPs The entire Robert Rodriguez segment with Antonio Banderas and the two kids (except for some weird editing choices at the climactic moment) - great direction, a very funny narrative and a funny cameo by Marisa Tomei Lili Taylor's performance in the Allison Anders section (and Madonna's pretty good too) The camera work and editing in the Tarantino section (especially the ending) As Br. Cleve said, the Mirisch-style opening Ummmm ... DOWNs The terrible continuity (the four sections had to be in a different order when they were shooting - my theory is when the producers [or QT] saw how bad the Anders section was they stuck it in front hoping we'd forget it by the end) Tim Roth's performance, from the horrible opening "prologue" on Quentin Tarantino's dialogue, out-of-control direction, and "acting" "style" The only thing I can say about Allison Anders (whose "Gas Food Lodging" is really great) is that maybe she was trying to parody or pastiche a "Love American Style" structure - or maybe they edited out the parts that made it coherent .............. Anyway, everybody should see it. I didn't hate it. The Rodriguez section and the final minute of the film banked enough goodwill for me (if not my boyfriend) to leave the theater smiling. And maybe Robert Rodriguez will make another comedy (although his next film, "From Dusk To Dawn," produced and featuring Se=F1or Quentin Tarantino, doesn't seem to be it). kjm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MEIXELLR@FLP.LIB.PA.US Subject: Arabic Pop Exotica Date: 02 Jan 1996 14:29:46 -0500 (EST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# MEIXELLR@FLP.LIB.PA.US <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > I lived for a while in Egypt (mid-80s) and I am a big fan of the classics > (Oum Kalthoum) as well as Egyptian pop ("Lo Laaki" was the pop sensation > when I was there), but I'm kind of out of touch except for Ann Dudley's > "Songs from the Victorious City" and the earnest Real World recordings. Any > info on Egyptian/MidEast pop would be greatly appreciated by me. When I say Arabic pop music, I am including Oum Kalthoum. "New Sound" which I think was initiated with "Lo Laaki" is still dominant in Egypt, as far as I know. I have not lived in any Arabic countries, so I don't know these things first hand. I have picked a lot up from a helpful Arabic grocery store proprietor who sells tapes as well as pita bread. I liked "New Sound" initially, but it doesn't seem to be changing at all. Very monotonous. I like some of the things I hear from the Gulf states. Mohamed Abdu in Saudi Arabia is good, although I find his studio recordings a little too slick. I also like Saleh Abdel Gafor, an Iraqi singer who made the first recording of a song which later became a hit throughout the Arabic world. (I don't know the title.) For the most part, I am catching up to things from the 30's through the 70's. I mentioned George Wassouf, a Syrian singer. Some of his live recordings (presumably bootlegs) are pretty manic. Some of these singers come to sing at the casinos in Atlantic City, NJ. I had a chance to see Wassouf there a couple summers back. - --Rudy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) Subject: Re: New CD releases Date: 03 Jan 1996 00:10:30 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. On 1/2/96 "kevin king" wrote: >The liner notes mention a few other BMG cd releases that may be of >interest: Chet Atkins' Teensville (intriguing cover) and The Three >Suns' Twighlight Memories. Any opinions on either of these? Haven't heard the Atkins, but IMHO "Twilight Memories" is one of the 3 Suns best efforts, up there with "Fever & Smoke", "Moovin' & Groovin'" and "A Swingin' Thing". I'd be very interested to know what the bonus tracks are. br cleve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MrBEATNICK@aol.com Subject: Beatnick with a C Date: 03 Jan 1996 08:54:00 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# MrBEATNICK@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. DX felt compelled to point out that I spell Beatnik BEATNICK. I really do no (oops! know) how to spell Beatnik, DX. There is a reason I used a C. The name was is use when I assigned it to myself. So I modified it. It is not all that uncommon. For example, Jack Diamond spells Diamond DYEMUND. Do you feel better now that I have explained why I use a C in Beatnik? Thank you for your keen observation and valuable contribution to the exotica mailing list. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Stewart" Subject: Mysterious Soundtracks Date: 03 Jan 1996 11:39:38 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Bryan Stewart" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Here are some soundtracks I would like to see (on CD): "Legend of the Lost" (1957). Yes, this is the John Wayne-Sophia Loren film. I found the soundtrack to mysterious and, in my opinion, exotic. I did not catch who did the score for the film in the opening credits. Does anyone know? "Fall of the House of Usher" (1960). Nothing beats Vincent Price. Music by Les Baxter. Strange, strange mood sounds. Soundtrack was released on American International Records. "The Pit and the Pendulum" (1961). Vincent Price again. One of my favorites!! A classic!! Superior to the new, crappy remake. Music, again by Les Baxter on American International Records. I preferred it slightly over "House of Usher". I remember when I saw both of the Roger Corman films, they had a plug for obtaining the original motion picture soundtrack (on LP) in the end credits. Does anyone know who owns the soundtracks and masters to American International? I'd like to see them released on CD. Bryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Oppenheimer Subject: Re: 4 Rooms Date: 03 Jan 1996 10:54:34 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Aaron Oppenheimer <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hi all, I thought I'd respond to a couple of comments about the flick. A few little spoilers follow. This isn't an official band statement or anything, just some inside info from me, your personal friend. At 08:13 PM 1/2/96 -0800, Kevin Martin wrote: >illusion, but it seems that the editing on the soundtrack in the film >varies significantly from the CD. I like the CD very much, but it seems >that maybe the versions in the film run longer, or something (maybe the CE >members on the list can fill us in). And was I napping when the "Bewitched" >theme was played? I don't remember hearing it or seeing it in the credits. Fill you in I can. A lot of editing went on after the soundtrack album was delivered to Elektra. Several scenes were removed from Alex Rockwell's and Allison Anders' rooms (including the scene with 'Bewitched'), and some of the new music written for Alex' and Robert Rodriguez' rooms was either edited (streched or shrunk) or replaced with music from 'I, Swinger'. In the latter case, the 'Swinger' music was what was used as the 'temp' music when the film was originally edited, before we wrote anything new. Most of the music we wrote for the film as it was last March is on the soundtrack record; if you hear something on the record that you don't remember from the film, it probably fell victim to the editing process. >The terrible continuity (the four sections had to be in a different order >when they were shooting - my theory is when the producers [or QT] saw how The original script has the film structured the way it ended up. The only continuity problem I can think of is when the kids in Robert's room call room 409 and ask about needles; we've already seen that scene from the other side when Seymour answers the phone in Alex' room. Two comments: The directors knew about this from the start and didn't care (Pulp Fiction, for example, is full of that sort of thing, done on purpose), and also it's implied that the whole game in Alex' room is starting over when the real Theodore shows up at the end of the segment, so maybe it makes sense that someone would call later and ask about needles. Whatever. >Tim Roth's performance [was terrible], from the horrible opening "prologue" on I liked it, but that's just me. Aaron ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Combustible Edison comed@subpop.com PO Box 381245 Cambridge MA 02238 http://www.subpop.com/bands/combustible/html/index.html Stay Fabulous! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow (via RadioMail) Subject: Rare Surf: The South Bay Bands Date: 03 Jan 1996 18:40:04 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Brad Bigelow (via RadioMail) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. With the discussion of surf on the list in the last week, the arrival in my mailbox of volumes 1 and 2 of AVI's compilation, "Rare Surf: The South Bay Bands" was timely. These are, flat out, two fantastic CDs. Almost none of this stuff could be touched before outside the most exclusive and pricey surf collectors circles. Both are a great deal--25 cuts on vol1, 28 on vol2. The quality and variety of selections is astonishing, particularly when you look at the 14-year-old faces of the Nocturnes on Vol 2. If you like surf or instrumentals, check these out. Brad Bigelow ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) Subject: Re: Mysterious Soundtracks Date: 03 Jan 1996 22:32:04 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. On 1/3/96 "Bryan Stewart" wrote: >Here are some soundtracks I would like to see (on CD) >"Fall of the House of Usher" (1960)... >"The Pit and the Pendulum" (1961)... >I remember when I saw both of the Roger Corman films, they had a plug for >obtaining the original motion picture soundtrack (on LP) in the end credits. >Does anyone know who owns the soundtracks and masters to American >International? >I'd like to see them released on CD. I checked a few discographical sources (old Schwann catalogs and the Soundtrack Price Guide) and found no mention of these tracks being released. Nothing under Les Baxter. Also, the Schwann's of the early-60's don't list an American International label in their index; a cursory check shows that the label doesn't show up until 1971("Dr.Phibes","Three in The Cellar", "Wuthering Heights"). Maybe it took them that long to get a label operating. Most of the AIP film tracks (esp. the biker ones) were on Tower (or its parent, Capitol) or Buena Vista (the beach party epics, undoubtedly due to Annette's contract with Uncle Walt). br cleve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: Rare Surf: The South Bay Bands Date: 04 Jan 1996 00:11:43 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# LTepedino@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. In full agreement, in fact anything AVI has put out has been excellent. Ashley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) Subject: Re: 4 Rooms Date: 03 Jan 1996 21:58:07 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. At 10:54 AM 1/3/96, Aaron Oppenheimer wrote: >I thought I'd respond to a couple of comments about the flick. A few little >spoilers follow. This isn't an official band statement or anything, just >some inside info from me, your personal friend. > >At 08:13 PM 1/2/96 -0800, Kevin Martin wrote: > >>The terrible continuity (the four sections had to be in a different order >>when they were shooting - my theory is when the producers [or QT] saw how > I noticed the phone call, but I thought the same thing you did; that wasn't part of the problem with continuity. What I felt was the worst lapse (of several) in continuity was that, after the Rockwell "room," Tim Roth has his tie askew as it was in the Anders' room, and makes several comments as though he'd just left that "room." There were others, but they'd be spoilers. Thanks, Aaron, for the fill-in flash. kjm ====================================================================== ====================================================================== "I know I don't have any talent, And I know all I have is a body, And I am doing my bust exercises ... Oh, the hell with them ... let 'em droop!" - Jennifer, _Valley_of_the_Dolls_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Message-ID: <960103225801_702420.204300_BHD60-31@CompuServe.COM> Date: 03 Jan 1996 17:58:01 EST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >BARBARELLA on CD more information from anyone please. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ David Greenberg hifi@rykodisc.com HIFI/Rykodisc Shetland Park 27 Congress St. Salem MA 01915 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lee@anti.com Subject: Re[2]: Capitol neglect Date: 03 Jan 1996 11:15:27 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lee@anti.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >But Bear Family already has a CD box set of every side Louis, Keely >and Sam Butera made for Capitol. Eight solid discs! Wonderful. It takes a German company to do justice to an American artist when their original label is still around. Yeah, as a fan of rockabilly, surf, garage and some psych, I'm familiar with this attitude (with uncountable numbers of Euro-reissues and comps of American music in my collection) but it is still WRONG. I'm not putting down the Bear Family box set, but A) it ain't available everywhere and B) it is not cheap. Capitol could easily reissue all that stuff and give it a budget price as there are no advances to the artists and there would be little to no cost for advertising and marketing. Hell, with all the amazing stuff that the photoshop program does, they could scan the original artwork off the albums themselves at the cost of a few hours time of a graphic artist. Basically, major labels suck eggs (rotten ones). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dx@netcom.com (dx) Subject: Re: Re[2]: Capitol neglect Date: 04 Jan 1996 05:46:39 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dx@netcom.com (dx) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > I'm not putting down the Bear Family box set, but A) it ain't > available everywhere and B) it is not cheap. Capitol could easily > reissue all that stuff and give it a budget price as there are no > advances to the artists and there would be little to no cost for > advertising and marketing. While I can't argue that the discs are expensive, they're certainly available everywhere, since you can mailorder them directly from Bear Family (it's worth it just to get on their mailing list for the catalog). Most Bear Family sets are also available from on-line service such as cdconnection.com. With the money-grubbingness that Capitol has shown, I'd have to guess that they don't think there is sufficient money in a Louis Prima box set to make it worth their while. And straight up reissues probably wouldn't sell in sufficient quantity to fund the resources being moved off of other projects. Does anyone know if the cost structuring in Germany is different than here - allowing, for example, Bear Family to license American material at royalty rates that are lower than the actual owner of the material would have to pay here in the USA? - -dx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MrBEATNICK@aol.com Subject: All Apologies Date: 03 Jan 1996 11:11:25 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# MrBEATNICK@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. My apologies to the list for blasting DX "in public". He pointed out my "error" in private so I should have scolded him in private. Sorry for any violation of proper etiquette. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: OK. What gives? Am I BRANDED? (FORWARDED MESSAGE) Date: 03 Jan 1996 10:17:02 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Lazlo Nibble <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. <# TO REPLY TO THE ORIGINAL SENDER OF THIS MESSAGE, SEND EMAIL TO: <# "WTW2201" Last week, I donated my two cents to the "exotica" mailing lists concerning cleaning vinyl, investing in records without covers, and the hidden value of "inner sleeves." As I only subscribe to "exotica-digest," I have not seen my postings included in any of the four most recent issues of exotica-digest. Have I been edited in the highest order? Is my server screwy? If ANYBODY got my message, relieve my mind and reassure that I did write SOMETHING and that it went SOMEWHERE last week. I didn't save the messages and I simply don't have the time to rewrite my advice in my usual verbose writing style. Apologies to those who missed out. Bill Wynne wwynne@ets.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: Be a pepper! (FORWARDED MESSAGE) Date: 03 Jan 1996 10:12:42 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Lazlo Nibble <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. <# TO REPLY TO THE ORIGINAL SENDER OF THIS MESSAGE, SEND EMAIL TO: <# Bruce Rhodewalt Eric Drysdale wrote: > > <# Replies to this message will go to: > <# Eric_Drysdale@kaplan.com (Eric Drysdale) > <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. > <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > > Happy New Year, all. > > Found a most unusual record this weekend. Not exotica, but odd. It's > called "The Original Cast Album: Dr. Pepper, the Most Original Soft Drink > Ever." It seems to be an internal promo for Dr. Pepper sales managers (in > 1974, before it was bought out by who, coke? pepsi?) packaged as a > faux-broadway soundtrack. It's a beautiful gate-fold with "scenes" from the > "Musical", and an insert poster with images from the different campaigns. > It has an instrumental "Overture", and then 6 "scenes" from the musical, > which were each used as T.V. ads. Then, It features Eubie Blake, Doc > Watson, Anita O'Day and Muddy Waters singing their own versions of the Dr. > Pepper theme song. All of them are excellent, and the music is unmistakable > as the work of Randy Newman. As if that weren't enough, the one-sided album > features a very groovy moire effect on the blank side, and the label is a > big Dr. Pepper bottlecap. > > -E Well, that sounds almost as nice as my "Music to Drink Bubble Up By!" album from 1961, with radio promos ("We take a kiss of lemon, a kiss of lime!"). "Operating on the sound principal that if one jingle is good, eight good jingles must be great, Bubble Up proudly presents a take-home 8-pack of eight great melodies." Includes "Bubble Up Cha Cha Cha" (of course), "Lemon-Lime Merengue" and "Down by the Old Bubble Up Stream." Bruce __________________________________________________________ | | | / | Tiki Publishing - -- -- | | | | http://www.tikipub.com | | / | Bruce Rhodewalt, Owner | | \ | 78-365 Highway 111, #241 | | | | | La Quinta, CA 92253 | | | \ | 619/342-3418 -- -- -- -- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Henk Rijks Subject: Russ Meyer Soundtracks Date: 04 Jan 1996 17:10:53 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Henk Rijks <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Just spotted two double cd's with soundtracks of all Russ Meyer movies (Super Vixen et.al.) Great artwork ;-) but does anyone know more about the music? Is it worth buying? Regards, Henk ========================================================================e-mail: hrijks@xs4all.nl snail: OZ Voorburgwal 129/II 72662.552@compuserve.com 1012 EP Amsterdam,The Netherlands ======================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Henk Rijks Subject: The Theremin Home Page Date: 04 Jan 1996 17:20:28 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Henk Rijks <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ====================================================================== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just spotted some neat Theremin stuff on the web. 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====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Johnson Subject: Re: Bubble-Up/Kingston Trio 7-Up Commercials Date: 04 Jan 1996 11:33:58 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Jon Johnson <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. <---- Begin Included Message ----> Well, that sounds almost as nice as my "Music to Drink Bubble Up By!" album from 1961, with radio promos ("We take a kiss of lemon, a kiss of lime!"). "Operating on the sound principal that if one jingle is good, eight good jingles must be great, Bubble Up proudly presents a take-home 8-pack of eight great melodies." Includes "Bubble Up Cha Cha Cha" (of course), "Lemon-Lime Merengue" and "Down by the Old Bubble Up Stream." Bruce <---- End Included Message ----> On Capitol's new Kingston Trio boxed set there are a couple of radio spots the group did in 1960 for 7-Up. The spots were set-up as mini-programs, hosted by a guy named Ken Carpenter. They had a bit of the group and Ken doing a little light comedy and finished with the Trio playing a song with lyrics extolling the virtues of 7-Up. The first song is "With You, My Johnny" with different lyrics and the second is "Corey, Corey" with appropriate 7-Up lyrics. Each spot is a little over two minutes in length. --Jon Johnson erik@top.monad.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Stewart" Subject: Capitol...again Date: 04 Jan 1996 12:37:27 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Bryan Stewart" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I didn't mean to provoke a firestorm of hostility against Capitol. While some of what they do may leave a lot to be desired, I don't think they "suck a lot of rotten eggs". If I felt that strongly about it, then I would not buy any of their products. They are who they are and nobody has to like it. In regards to Bear Family, I appreciate the fact that someone out there is even releasing some of this stuff. There are some Germans out there who know what kind of music they like and it ain't German! If I want something bad enough, then I will have to pay the price and go to imports. Otherwise, I do without. That's just my opinion. Bryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: T P Uschanov Subject: Re: Mysterious Soundtracks Date: 04 Jan 1996 19:08:38 +0200 (EET) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# T P Uschanov <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > Here are some soundtracks I would like to see (on CD) > "Fall of the House of Usher" (1960)... > "The Pit and the Pendulum" (1961)... > I remember when I saw both of the Roger Corman films, they had a plug for > obtaining the original motion picture soundtrack (on LP) in the end credits. > Does anyone know who owns the soundtracks and masters to American > International? I'd like to see them released on CD. Don't know, but Rhino released the OST of 'A Little Shop of Horrors' on vinyl around a decade ago -- I have it at home, in fact. I can't remember who they say they licenced it from, though. - -tp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KRIS@MOM.SPIE.ORG Subject: Soundtrack question... Date: 04 Jan 1996 09:50:02 -0800 (PST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# KRIS@MOM.SPIE.ORG <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. All this talk about finding obscure film music set my mind to racing. I took a cinema class a few years ago and one of the short films shown was called "Toys" (this was not the Robin Williams feature)... it was a great little an- imation piece in which some anxious little kids are gawking at a display win- dow in a toy store at Christmas time. The toys start to move via stop-motion animation-- doing fun toy things until the G.I. Joes and other war toys start to engage in battle, the whole scene (Barbie, stuffed animals etc. included) degenerates into a pretty viscious statement regarding what kids learn from the toys we give them. Heavy handed but effective... the inital fun-toy sequence is set to some ultra cool go-go music. I remember looking in the credits and talking to the professor about who did the music, but had no luck. The sound was somewhere between Tijuana Brass and Hal Blaine's solo work. Very "Laugh-In", with zany trumpets and sock-o drumming... if anybody out there recognizes this film *and* knows where the music was from I'd be in- terested in knowing. Thanks in advance for any leads. Apologies for this lengthy tangent, Kris. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RALPHA6982@aol.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: Capitol neglect Date: 04 Jan 1996 12:49:43 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# RALPHA6982@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >Does anyone know if the cost structuring in Germany is different than here - allowing, for example, Bear Family to license American material at royalty rates that are lower than the actual owner of the material would have to pay Nope. Actually royalty rates are higher in Germany which benefits especially the writers & artists. Usually in licensing deals, the labels involved work out a master rate between themselves. Usually the master owner asks for as much money as they can up front. The licensee asks for the cheapest rate etc. Sometimes what holds up US re-releases is that the original contracts have no provisions for current CD, etc. technology, so the label could just carry on paying el cheapo artist royalties (5-6%?) or re-negotiate with heirs & such. People hurt the most are the artists who weren't that big to begin with and may not be aware or have the resources to get the accounting straightened out. You have to realize at modern US labels, unless you've been there forever, the majority of people there have no idea what's in the catalogue and/or vaults. The catalog product manager may know a bit more, but is probably reliant on people from the outside providing information and/or yelling at them (as I'm sure someone is re: Dean Martin & Capitol). When I was working at EMI Canada as the Canadian product manager, I really tried to re-release all this great Canadian stuff from the 60s as all the tapes & stuff were in the vaults, but because no one else there had ever heard of these artists, I couldn't get it past the various marketing/legal people. Years after I left, they apparently dusted off my proposal and are sort of working on it. Funny, eh? Ralph Alfonso ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Rhodewalt Subject: Re: Bubble-Up/Kingston Trio 7-Up Commercials Date: 04 Jan 1996 09:51:56 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Bruce Rhodewalt <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Jon Johnson wrote: > > <# Replies to this message will go to: > <# Jon Johnson > <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. > <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > > <---- Begin Included Message ----> > > Well, that sounds almost as nice as my "Music to Drink > Bubble Up By!" album from 1961, >... > Bruce > <---- End Included Message ----> > On Capitol's new Kingston Trio boxed set there are a couple of radio > spots the group did in 1960 for 7-Up. >... Oh, my God: A sub-genre! __________________________________________________________ | | | / | Tiki Publishing - -- -- | | | | http://www.tikipub.com | | / | Bruce Rhodewalt, Owner | | \ | 78-365 Highway 111, #241 | | | | | La Quinta, CA 92253 | | | \ | 619/342-3418 -- -- -- -- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dx@netcom.com (dx) Subject: Re: Bubble-Up/Kingston Trio 7-Up Commercials Date: 04 Jan 1996 10:17:32 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dx@netcom.com (dx) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > Oh, my God: A sub-genre! Actually, if the sub-genre is advertising records, then there are several subcategories of that. Most of what's been discussed so far are direct advertisements (e.g., jingles), but there are also quite a few original cast albums from stage shows put on at conventions. I have several of these, including albums about plumbing fixtures (American-Standard's "The Bathrooms Are Coming"), cars (Rambler's, Nova's, VW's), and others. The casts generally featured unknowns, though occasionally a pre-fame celelbrity turns up. Hal Linden, of Barney Miller fame, is in the cast of the AMC Rambler extravaganza. - -dx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: Psychedelic Percussion Date: 04 Jan 1996 20:26:43 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. i'm looking for the Hal Blaine/ Emil Richards "Psychedelic Percussion/ Stones" cd (innerspace records); can anyone help me? i'm willing to get any avail. euro cd for you if you wish; thanx! Greetings from Johan johan.devis@ping.be (home: Wivina 15, 1702, Belgium) A HAPPY A HEALTHY NEW YEAR TO YOU ! ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Stewart" Subject: Capitol, hollywood and vine Date: 04 Jan 1996 15:40:20 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Bryan Stewart" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. For all complaints to Capitol, go to: http://hollywoodandvine.com/ or e-mail Robin at: robin@hollywoodandvine.com I hope you all feel better. Bryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Subject: Adventure in Time Date: 04 Jan 1996 12:31:37 -0700 (PDT) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Jeff <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. My beautiful and lovely girlfriend knew exactly what I wanted for Christmas, and she got me a giant stack of old exotica/percussion/misc LPs, including The Music from Peter Gunn, Dick Hyman's "Mirrors", and Persuasive Percussion vol.3 (Enoch Light). What perfect gifts, huh? Anyway, I also recently picked up an LP at a local thrift store for 20 cents called "Adventure in Time". It's REALLY weird. most tracks are just improvisational drum beats; pretty abstract. A couple of tracks are really frightening; there's one called "The Minute" in which some lady reads a Poe-like poem over weird drums and noises. There's also a track called "Whoo Doo Voodoo", which is more weird music with people moaning and screaming. Not exactly for children under 12. Anyway, a few of the other tracks are just cool, swingy jazz tunes. Overall pretty good. Has anyone ever heard of this? _ __ __ ___ _ _ | |___ / _|/ _| | _ ) ___ _ _ __| | .---------------. | |_| / -_) _| _| | _ \/ _ \ || / _` | | boyd@csus.edu | \___/\___|_| |_| |___/\___/\_, \__,_| `---------------' |__/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Norman Nithman Subject: More Exotic LP Scans Date: 03 Jan 1996 21:36:26 -0600 (CST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Norman Nithman <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Scanned in 3 more LP covers. First, I've got "Got A Date With You In Havana" (Aamco ALP 305) featuring a sultry latina by the harbor. I also scanned a couple of the shots from the cover of ISMII - namely Les Baxter's "Space Escapade", featuring a couple of spacemen guzzling blue liquid served to them by some moodmaidens with a large spring on their heads, and "Music to Work or Study By" with the Melachrino Strings. All are 480x480 jpegs. The titles are: havana.jpg spaceesc.jpg workstud.jpg and are being posted to alt.binaries.pictures.misc. Norm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: Moriccone Date: 04 Jan 1996 21:20:11 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# LTepedino@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. As with just about anything Rhino touches it was a masterful job, and a labor of love. To go through all the trouble of getting those tracks licesed! Phew!! While thematically I prefer the first disc to the second, it just happens that that is the way Morricone progressed in terms of his style and so Rhino did achieve an apt representation of what was available. And by the way the sound quality of the discs is superb especially compared to some of the Italian CD's of Morricone's stuff available. Ashley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: Capitol neglect Date: 04 Jan 1996 21:43:44 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# LTepedino@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. In response to the Capitol backlash that appears to be growing. I can fill some people in on way some things are the way they are. As with any company, record company or whatever, there are costs of projects involved with respect to marketing, production, warehousing, legal and royalty matters etc. that for a company of Capitol's size are much higher than for a company like (in the examples used) Bear Family. Believe me the Capitol people I have dealt with are very hip to some of the projects that they have allowed companies like Scamp/Caroline to do and have been extremely supportive. It's the folks at Capitol and Liberty that we all have to thank for allowing the Robert Mitchum "Calypso Is Like So..." and upcoming Martin Denny projects I am working on to get reissued - you'd be surprised how many of them are into this stuff and they are extremely pleased that these projects do see the light of day. Understand that there are certain thresholds in terms of unit sales that need to be reached for a project to have life. I can think of several projects I would personally love to do but realize potential sales would not support the production and marketing investments. It's for this reason that Capitol and other labels do allow independents and even other majors to license their material. These labels are to be thanked for allowing it - and if the stuff is not available then there is as much to blame to be laid on any label currently in business whose job involves reissues. Ashley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SYoungNYC@aol.com Subject: Sub-genre thread>>>Industrials Date: 04 Jan 1996 22:49:36 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# SYoungNYC@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. As dx's post points out, industrial shows are a somewhat scarce but wonderful world. I collect these things--I currently have 15 different shows--and I'd love to have more. Anyone with anything to sell, swap, or send cassettes of along these lines, please e-mail me--and I'll share what I have if you're interested. Some of the companies that put on shows and pressed souvenir albums include: General Electric, Woolworth, GM, ABC Radio, Life Magazine, Colgate Palmolive, Money Magazine, American Motors, Exxon. . . SYoungNYC@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zark@tiac.net (zark) Subject: Re: Surf top 5 CD's? Date: 05 Jan 1996 02:17:59 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# zark@tiac.net (zark) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hi folks, Well, I'm no expert, but since I figger I know a bit o' what our tastes here on the list are like, I thought I'd suggest a few REALLY GREAT surf-type things. Now, this list is based on the fact that we like Exotica...that's why we're all here, right? Unfortunately, a lot of this new stuff leaves me cold. What I DO like is atmosphere, and these bands, songs and comps have it in spades! OLD STUFF... *THE CHANTAYS "Space Probe" This is a spacey as any o' the songs on Ventures in Space, sounds like Joe Meek was at the wheel... actually a lot of their other stuff is great, but this happens to be my FAVE surf song of all time. Just heard a pretty good version (by the Revelaires, I think) on that AVI South Bay comp. *THE ASTRONAUTS "The Hearse" Song #2, by a neck. Moody and drivin'. *The LEGENDS of SURF GUITAR COMP. Recommended already, and I couldn't agree more. The best surf comp available at the crappy record store chains B.P.F. (Before That Movie)... *BELAIRS/EDDIE and the SHOWMEN/CHALLENGERS One big happy family of surf music! NEW STUFF *PHANTOM SURFERS There is nothing on earth today that sounds more authentic than these boys (well, then there's Billy Childish...) They know their shit and are creative enough with their schtick that it doesn't bore. In fact, it quite rocks! *BILLY CHILDISH Britain's #1 Beat man! Kicks everybody's ass, can play both Strychnine AND Comanche as if he was born to play 'em( and I think he was!) . Records under names like THEE MIGHTY CAESARS, THEE MILKSHAKES, THEE HEADCOATS, etc... *SATAN'S PILGRIMS Another good new band... I can't believe it! They even cover "Let's Go to the Beach" by Larry and the Loafers! I like these guys. *ART CHANTRY is the Estrus house designer. He's not a surf band, but his covers are the ONLY ones I've yet seen that manage to rip off old stuff in a way that doesn't rob it of its dignity. Come to think of it, a lot of bands can't do that nowadays, either. Anyways, next time you see a new record that makes you say "Is this NEW, impossible! It looks so GOOD!" Look for the art credits. It's probably Mr. Chantry. That's all for now. If it's classic-type gas you want for your atmosphere, give some o' that stuff a try. Bye for now. I promise not to be a stranger, zark@tiac.net Fidelity...high! Seven Zark-Seven zark@tiac.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cbennet0@counsel.com (Caressa Bennet -- Atty-Caressa Bennett - Washington ) Subject: Bubble Up Date: 04 Jan 1996 16:03:17 EST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# cbennet0@counsel.com (Caressa Bennet -- Atty-Caressa Bennett - Washington ) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. To: exotica, Inet I just saw where someone has released an album of various sixties artists doing Coke commercials. Sub-genre, indeed. Michael Bennet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zark@tiac.net (zark) Subject: Re: Moriccone Date: 05 Jan 1996 02:40:10 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# zark@tiac.net (zark) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Ashley wrote: >As with just about anything Rhino touches it was a masterful job, and a labor >of love. To go through all the trouble of getting those tracks licesed! Amen! > While thematically I prefer the first disc to the second, it just I agree, the 60's were the time for Morricone. Most of the songs on Disc 1 were culled from Westerns, and most of those are represented on a bitchin' (and inexpensive ) RCA comp called Legendary Italian Westerns. At about 10 bucks (here in Boston, anyways,) it has nary a clunker on it and plenty of twangy guitar, trumpets and wailing voices to satisfy any exoticat or kitten's cravings. But, and it's a BIG but, the tracks on Disc 1 that appear for the first time on legit CD are, in my estimation, worth the price of admission. NAVAJO JOE... Tribal drums and a very YMA SUMAC-ESQUE female vocal accompained by a male and female chorus make this a MUST for any serious exot-o-phile! THEME FROM In the GARDEN of DELIGHTS An Uber-Twangy guitar, Trumpet, vocal chorus and harpsichord make up what Morricone must have composed as a soundtrack to speeding across the Italian countryside in a Hot-Rod Lamborghini. There's more neat stuff, but those songs kicked my little ass and made the hairs at the base of my neck stand. There's also a neat electronic piece for a film called L'UMANOID. By the way, if anyone has the vinyl for Navajo Joe, Malamondo, or Garden, or ANY Morricone stuff (60's ) please let me know. I dig him big, and would gladly trade fairly important records to get a hold of some good Ennio wax! Bye! zark@tiac.net Fidelity...high! Seven Zark-Seven zark@tiac.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cxws@musica.mcgill.ca Subject: [none] Date: 05 Jan 1996 08:10:27 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# cxws@musica.mcgill.ca <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. RE: the soundtrack for Godard's Breathless. The main themes from the soundtrack are available on a budget CD that includes themes from three or four other French New Wave films. It's fairly widely available here in Quebec. I keep giving my copies away as gifts, so I don't have one and can't provide a track listing. I have the second of the Russ Meyer double CD comps, and it's fine if you're anxious to relive the soundtrack of 1970s porn films. But be careful . . . it has lots of dialogue and panting and groaning, and shouldn't be played in your office if you're expecting interruptions ====================================================================== Will Straw Associate Professor, Graduate Program in Communications/ Director, The Centre for Research on Canadian Cultural Industries and Institutions 3465 rue Peel, Montreal, Quebec H3A 1W7 Phone: (514) 398 7667; Fax: (514) 398 4934 http://www.facl.mcgill.ca/gpc/crccii/crccii.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Stewart" Subject: Enoch Light Date: 05 Jan 1996 11:28:10 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Bryan Stewart" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. What can anybody tell me about "Persuasive Percussion" and (or) "Provacative Percussion"? I have seen the CDs floating around the store for awhile. What is it similar to? Are they both good, or is one better than the other? I know that they came out around 1959-60 and were part of a "percussion" series that Light had released. Are they worth getting? Please let me know your opinions. Bryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Norman Nithman Subject: More Exotic LP Scans Date: 03 Jan 1996 21:36:26 -0600 (CST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Norman Nithman <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Scanned in 3 more LP covers. First, I've got "Got A Date With You In Havana" (Aamco ALP 305) featuring a sultry latina by the harbor. I also scanned a couple of the shots from the cover of ISMII - namely Les Baxter's "Space Escapade", featuring a couple of spacemen guzzling blue liquid served to them by some moodmaidens with a large spring on their heads, and "Music to Work or Study By" with the Melachrino Strings. All are 480x480 jpegs. The titles are: havana.jpg spaceesc.jpg workstud.jpg and are being posted to alt.binaries.pictures.misc. Norm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: Moriccone Date: 05 Jan 1996 10:18:19 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Lazlo Nibble <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > As with just about anything Rhino touches it was a masterful job, and a labor > of love. How does the set compare to the two Morricone Film Music compilations that Virgin put out a while back? (I already own the Virgin discs; is there a lot of duplication between the those and the Rhino release?) - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: Re: Billy Mure Date: 05 Jan 1996 20:42:50 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Mark Freitas wrote: >What Billy Mure records have people found to be good? My faves are >Hawaiian Percussion and Supersonic Guitars (both volumes!) I have some other >records of his which are just sort of mushy. Are there other worthwhile >guitarish Mure albums besides the ones I've mentioned? I liked "Pink Hawaii" (Strand SL/SLS 1070) "Supersonics in flight" (RCA LSP-1869) - -johan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: Re: Greatest Film Score Date: 05 Jan 1996 20:43:00 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. my favorite is Angelo Badalamenti's music for "Twin Peaks"; ok, not exactly exotica, but with some references to space age pop IMHO; second would be any "spaghetti" by Ennio Morricone, though I only know the obvious ones. - -johan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: Re: enoch light - disco... Date: 05 Jan 1996 20:43:09 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. kschiele@u.washington.edu wrote: >I recently scored a record by Enoch Light, it's called "discoteque" >Any comments? Value (OK shape, not mint)? Representative of their other >LPs? from the 10 or so Enoch Light LPs I have, I like that one the least of all, together with these, which are not bad, but not of his best ones: Command performances vol. 2 Command RS 915 SD Discotheque vol. 2 Command RS 882SD Stereo 35 mm Command RS 826 S.D. However, the following are truly great IMHO: very inventive, inspired, adventurous, even crazy :) in descending order of greatness: Provocative stereo sounds of our time command rssd981 (this is a dbl compil of his best stuff from all the command series) Provocative percussion volume 2 command rs810sd Persuasive percussion volume 3 Command RS 817 SD Vibrations RS-833 SD Persuasive percussion Command 800 Persuasive percussion volume 4 Command RS 830 SD Provocative percussion Command RS 806 SD This is not a complete list at all, far from it; there must be tens of others around. - -johan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: Re: Russ Meyer Soundtracks Date: 05 Jan 1996 20:43:37 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Henk Rijks wrote: >Just spotted two double cd's with soundtracks of all Russ Meyer movies >(Super Vixen et.al.) Great artwork ;-) but does anyone know more >about the music? Is it worth buying? my answer would be a loud and big NO! it really sucks: no imagination, very tame, very cliche', not even interesting for EASY easy lovers, IMHO - -johan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Baldock Subject: Surf Sites Date: 05 Jan 1996 18:28:33 +0000 (GMT) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Robert Baldock <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. To throw in a tiny cent's worth - Two relatively new sites have sprung up recently: http://www.del-fi.com and http://www.astroman.com The Del-Fi site is especially tasty! Robbie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Baldock Subject: Xmas Treats Date: 05 Jan 1996 18:29:31 +0000 (GMT) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Robert Baldock <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hi all - Hope you all had a wonderful Christmas & New Year! My Xmas was fairly tedious but there was one major highlight... I completed the inheritance of strangeness from my parents (having been given Enoch Light's "Spaced Out" and Tony Mottola's "Guitar Factory" last February), my mum gave me Perrey & Kingsley's "Kaleidoscopic Vibrations" and Perrey's "Moog Indigo" - - ah joy! I hadn't heard these since childhood and boy are they disturbing records! Serious mind scramblers... One thing - this "Moog Indigo" has a different (and less interesting) cover than the one I've seen in ISM and on websites... it's just a yellow square with a purple border... I presume this is a reissue? Oh, and New Year's eve had a highlight of strangeness on TV - those of you in the US will have missed "Songs of Praise - ... ON ICE!". Bizarre. More soon! Robbie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) Subject: Re: Russ Meyer Soundtracks Date: 05 Jan 1996 16:20:44 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >Henk Rijks wrote: > >>Just spotted two double cd's with soundtracks of all Russ Meyer movies >>(Super Vixen et.al.) Great artwork ;-) but does anyone know more >>about the music? Is it worth buying? Guess I'm going to be the voice of dissent around here. I really like these. As a long time fan of Meyer, having seen almost every one of his films a kazillion times, I've loved the music in them since my first viewings. I love having the capability of throwing 'em on the turntable (I got the vinyl version) whenever the mood hits. I do think they may be a little long, and they were obviously mastered from the films themselves (which is weird for 'Vixen', since there was a track released for that), but IMHO there are lots of highlights, especially the themes to "Faster Pussycat" and "Lorna", the 'Small Town" rap, and the overall cartoonish music to the Super-Ultra-Vixens era. But maybe it's just because I'm so familiar with the films - a lot of it probably doesn't mean a lot if you aren't. And the packaging is great. bodaciously, br cleve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: P5 Couples Date: 05 Jan 1996 20:07:34 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "kevin king" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Just got this cd and excellent pop it is, I *must* say! Very different from This Year's Girl (no sampling, not as funky), and exotica it may or may not be. The self-description "a collection of some Bacharach-ish syncopations and AABA's..." is accurate enough. But I'd add Mendes-ish (vocals) and Mancini-ish. One of my favorite cuts ends with a transition from Odd Couple theme bounciness to a Pink Panther jazz swank!!! A great, great cd - but a forewarning emphasis on *pop*. kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MrBEATNICK@aol.com Subject: Re: Enoch Light Date: 05 Jan 1996 21:38:14 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# MrBEATNICK@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Bryan inquired about the Persuasive and Provacative Percussion CD's. Bryan, I don't think you can go wrong with either one. Good, basic Space Age Pop instrumentals. Each offer lasting favorites which feature an unusually inventive use of percussion, woodwinds and brass. Stereo component manufacturers used these to demonstrate the capabilities of their products! I prefer the first, it has Miserlou and a completely wacked out version of I Love Paris. Speaking of Enoch Light, anyone ever checked out Permissive Polyphonics? It came out a couple of years after Spaced Out. Thick, glossy gatefold cover under the Project 3 label. A Radio Shack product. It promises "Escapism through the turned-on sounds of today". Similar to Spaced Out, it features moogs, organs, an electric sitar and harpsichord, and, of course, that cheesy vocal group. There is a gospel cover of Let It Be that is just so out of left field that I'm not quite sure what to make of it. Marrakesh Express and Scarborough Fair are a couple of favorites. Fun to put on a tape that you make for a friend. MrB ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ricardo Wang Subject: Re: Enoch Light Date: 05 Jan 1996 21:06:36 -0800 (PST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Ricardo Wang <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. i think those are two of enoch light's finest efforts and while i still think they should be gotten on vinyl rather than cd, first and foremost they should be gotten! - ricardo wang On Fri, 5 Jan 1996, Bryan Stewart wrote: > <# Replies to this message will go to: > <# "Bryan Stewart" > <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. > <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > > What can anybody tell me about "Persuasive Percussion" and (or) "Provacative > Percussion"? I have seen the CDs floating around the store for awhile. What is > it similar to? Are they both good, or is one better than the other? I know > that they came out around 1959-60 and were part of a "percussion" series that > Light had released. Are they worth getting? Please let me know your opinions. > Bryan > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Desmond K. Hill" Subject: on the trail of Jean-Jacques Perrey Date: 05 Jan 1996 18:18:27 +0000 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Desmond K. Hill" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Just a quick word of thanks to those who shared their interests in Jean Jacques Perrey. Unfortunately I'm still attempting to locate UK stockists where I might purchase vinyl recordings of any of Perrey's solo experimental works. Is there anywhere that anyone can recommend, as a stockist of reissued exotica? All suggestions gratefully received. regards, des ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Administrivia (comix-biz, exotica, klf, orb, ztt) Date: 05 Jan 1996 13:56:35 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Lazlo Nibble <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Sorry if anyone sees this more than once, but you know the drill... I've recently sorted out the way majordomo handles addresses not actually subscribed to these lists, so you won't be seeing any more "FORWARDED MESSAGE" nonsense. As part of this I've uncovered a cache of older messages that were bounced to me because they were posted from addresses not obviously subscribed to the list; those messages will follow this posting as appropriate. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: Moriccone Date: 06 Jan 1996 11:49:25 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# LTepedino@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. My memory may not serve me well but I believe the Virgin release concentrates more on the later period lush instrumental compositions. Ashley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Subject: Enoch Light : still alive? Date: 06 Jan 1996 08:49:48 -0700 (PDT) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Jeff <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Does anyone know if Enoch Light is still alive? If he is, what is he doing nowadays? Any additional info on this interesting man would be greatly appreciated. _ __ __ ___ _ _ | |___ / _|/ _| | _ ) ___ _ _ __| | .---------------. | |_| / -_) _| _| | _ \/ _ \ || / _` | | boyd@csus.edu | \___/\___|_| |_| |___/\___/\_, \__,_| `---------------' |__/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Subject: Command Records - what happened? Date: 06 Jan 1996 08:57:55 -0700 (PDT) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Jeff <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. What happened to Command records? It seems that they were a pretty dominant label a few years ago, but I don't think they're around anymore. I have a Dick Hyman LP on Command, but it also has the ABC logo on it (as in the TV network). Does anyone know if ABC bought Command? The Provocative Percussion CD re-release says practically nothing about Command at all. The CD releases are on Varese, a label I'm not familiar with. Does anyone know how/why Varese handled the reissues? Thanks, Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: viktrola@usa.nai.net Subject: Another major joins the trend... Date: 06 Jan 1996 13:34:28 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# viktrola@usa.nai.net <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Just a note to say I am no longer using the AOL address viktrola deciding= instead to get this list thru my ISP. I haven't posted much but a few might= remember me.... On to news, Capitol has finally decided to dig into its vaults and release 3= exootica collections.The series is called "Ultra Lounge" and the volumes= are "Mondo Exotica" feat. Martin Denny, Les Baxter, Bas Sheva, Yma Sumac,= and a few more. "Mambo Fever" has John Buzon, Jackie Davis, moore Yma= Sumac, and many others. "Space-capades" feat. David Rose, more Les Baxter,= Alvino Rey, and much more. List will probably be 13 to 15.98 On the Rhino front, got a copy of the sampler...very good sound..Volume One= will definitely be the best with the cheesy vocal collection of Volume= Three destined to be forgetable. Enough for now...if you would like complete track listings for the Capitol= releases..drop by my lounge at the address below and head for the= bandstand.=20 viktrola@nai,net http://www.chaoskitty.com=20 "where chaos and lounge meet the great bhuddah kitty" @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ chaos never died @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Holmes <72241.731@compuserve.com> Subject: New York Times and SABPM Date: 06 Jan 1996 14:14:17 EST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Joseph Holmes <72241.731@compuserve.com> <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. The Sunday, January 7, 1996, New York Times is running an article by Eric Asimov on Space Age Bachelor Pad Music. It will appear in the Week in Review Section. I haven't read it yet, but... - -=-Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cbennet0@counsel.com (Caressa Bennet -- Atty-Caressa Bennett - Washington ) Subject: technical question Date: 06 Jan 1996 12:09:59 EST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# cbennet0@counsel.com (Caressa Bennet -- Atty-Caressa Bennett - Washington ) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. To: exotica, Inet Sorry for cluttering up this list with a technical question, but I was wondering if anyone knows if there is a way to search old digests for entries pertaining to certain artists or albums. Lots of times I remember reading about something here, but it takes forever to go back through each digest one day at a time to find it. Any advice to an internet novice would be appreciated. Thanks. Michael Bennet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) Subject: Re: Enoch Light : still alive? Date: 06 Jan 1996 17:04:15 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. On 1/6/96 Jeff wrote: >Does anyone know if Enoch Light is still alive? and in another missive : >What happened to Command records? It seems that they were a pretty >dominant label a few years ago, but I don't think they're around anymore. >I have a Dick Hyman LP on Command, but it also has the ABC logo on it (as >in the TV network). Does anyone know if ABC bought Command? Enoch Light died in the late 70's ('77 I think). Command was bought by ABC, which was bought by MCA, which owns the catalog today (to the best of my knowledge.) Which means Varese leased the masters. A friend made a comp tape entitled "A Taste of Hyman : Dick on Command". What a beautiful CD it would make, especially with that title. not holding his breath, br cleve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stefan.kery@mailbox.swipnet.se (STEFAN KERY) Subject: Re: Soundtrack question... Date: 07 Jan 1996 00:00:33 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# stefan.kery@mailbox.swipnet.se (STEFAN KERY) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. KRIS@MOM.SPIE.ORG wrote: >a cinema class a few years ago and one of the short films shown was called >"Toys" (this was not the Robin Williams feature)... it was a great little >animation piece in which some anxious little kids are gawking at a display >window in a toy store at Christmas time. The toys start to move via >stop-motion animation-- doing fun toy things until the G.I. Joes and other >war toys start to engage in battle, the whole scene (Barbie, stuffed animals >etc. included)degenerates into a pretty viscious statement regarding what >kids learn from the toys we give them. Heavy handed but effective... the >inital fun-toy sequence is set to some ultra cool go-go music. I remember >looking in the credits and talking to the professor about who did the music, >but had no luck. The sound was somewhere between Tijuana Brass and Hal >Blaine's solo work.Very "Laugh-In", with zany trumpets and sock-o >drumming... if anybody out there recognizes this film *and* knows where the >music was from I'd be in-terested in knowing. Thanks in advance for any >leads. Toys, yeah I got this film in my 16 mm collection. It was a long time since I watched it though so I can't remember any credits for the music. ButI'll be sure to do that soon. Will return with more info. By the way the film actually got across with it's "message" here in Sweden as the goverment put a ban on war toys after the movie circulated in our schools. Over and out Stefan/Subliminal Sounds ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoeBatutis@aol.com Subject: The Blues & the Beat Date: 07 Jan 1996 11:01:29 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# JoeBatutis@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hey- I just found Henry Mancini's "The Blues and the Beat" on CD at my local Tower Records. Oddly enough it's made in Spain. (BMG Ariola, S.A. - ND 74409) Absolutely great stuff! Has all the trademark Cool, Private Eye, Mellow flutes and all that you just gotta dig. Now if only they'd release his various "Latin" flavored stuff on CD... - - Joe B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: Record Collector's Best of '95 Date: 07 Jan 1996 20:51:53 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. the latest edition of the British Record Collector (jan 1996, #197, page53) has their pick of the year's best reissues and compilations, number 9 of which is "The Sound Gallery" cd; I listened once to this cd, and didn't like it at all; it sounded as soul & funk influenced 70's easy listening crap; nothing like the great percussive Spave Age Pop stuff that is compiled on the RCA or Rhino cd's... - -johan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: Re: Moriccone Date: 07 Jan 1996 20:53:28 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. zark@tiac.net (zark) wrote: >if anyone has the vinyl for Navajo Joe, Malamondo, or Garden, or >ANY Morricone stuff (60's ) please let me know. I got this search result from Blue Pastel Records: FUNNY WORLD (I MALAMONDO) C-CAM56 11/93 CD =A314.96 They've got plenty of other Morricone cd's, just send the following message to to get the list: cat audio search morricone quit - -johan Greetings from Johan johan.devis@ping.be (home: Wivina 15, 1702, Belgium) A HAPPY & HEALTHY NEW YEAR TO YOU ! ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lee@anti.com Subject: Re: Another major joins the trend...& Capitol Neglect cont. Date: 07 Jan 1996 13:11:19 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lee@anti.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. <>>On to news, Capitol has finally decided to dig into its vaults and >>release 3 exotica collections.<<<< ...and they better jump on it quick, I just saw SEVERAL Les Baxter BOOTLEG cds that look amazing (the bootlegger did a better job than most major label reissues I've seen. Most of 'em contained two full length's and the other contained the equivalent of three 10" with ALL ARTWORK reproduced in beautiful color). So much for the poor major label and the good heart of them to license their stuff to a foreign label. How sweet. How nice of you people to stick up for them. I think that someone who takes a job at one of these places should at least either know the history of the company they work at, or have a handy discography at their fingertips or in their computer. Well, now that the 'trend' is above water, those people will be in their archives all night with shovels and flashlights! I'd say buy the bootlegs and forget the majors, but the only problem with that is the artist gets the 'boot'. On a nice note, at the swap meet today I found: -Yma Sumac 7", "Birds"/"Najala's Lament" (from that Flahooly sdtrk) -Baxter "Ports Of Pleasure" UK pressing (nice and mint) for $2.00 -RCA "Adventures In Stereo" box with...10 albums including Esquivel's "Latin Esque"! They guy wanted $35.00, but took $25.00! It is a very heavy, nicely constructed box with the 10 albums in "descriptive and colorful" sleeves! Plus...tons of surf, garage and MORE Prima stuff! God bless vinyl and all who worship it ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: Another major joins the trend...& Capitol Neglect cont. Date: 07 Jan 1996 19:51:25 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# LTepedino@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I have to strongly disagree with your assement. Everyone should be warned that these bootlegs... 1.) feature truncated versions of the artwork sized to omit the original label logo that would immediately get the bootleggers into trouble and 2.) especially in the case of the Baxter theremin collection they are full of cracks and pops. This bootlegger does a good job? - the Les Baxter "two-fer' that combines "Ritual Of The Savage" and "Tamboo" puts the later album's tracks first forgoing any sense of chronological order. Two more good reasons for not buying these bootlegs is that 1.) these artists who most everyone on this chat line revere are being gyped out of any revenues and 2.) widespread distribution of these bootlegs will help discourage either the original or an independent label from doing a proper reissue. So all of you who revel in over-priced not very well put together bootlegs pressed off crackly vinyl go ahead make the bootlegger rich and help prevent quality reissues of these titles from coming. Ashley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TothMD@aol.com Subject: Cleaning vinyl (info & a testimonial) Date: 08 Jan 1996 00:58:17 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# TothMD@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. lee@anti.com wrote: > Two vinyl no-no's: > Rubbing alcohol murders vinyl! > so does those soft plastic sleeves! I'm guessing you mean the old oversized-sandwich-bag-type sleeves in old albums and not the poly-lined-paper sleeves collectors supplies places sell and that they use with laser discs? As far as the vinyl CLEANING thing goes -- the vacuum w/ fluid devices sound rather attractive, but both an out-of-state audiophile friend and the local high-end stereo store strongly stand by the Discwasher fluids and brush kits, like the D4+ record cleaning kit. I was elated with a recent find, a visually clean copy of The 3 Suns' "Fever & Smoke" (for 2 bucks! It really *is* that good, BTW, and the first 3 Suns record I've heard I refuse to part with at any price) and it played with some bearable but noticeable surface noise. After 2 plays and 2 D4 brush cleanings, the surface noise has mostly disappeared and it now sounds like a NM copy. While some albums still sound rough no matter how well they're cleaned, I was really impressed here. It's not alcohol, and I don't know WHAT this stuff is, but they make it out to be the product of some super-extensive lab research. I also have been using the "SC-2 Stylus Cleaning System" -- I thought my stylus was shot a couple months back (a Sumiko Blue Point-- absolutely dreamy, but my, have those gotten expensive) and was happy to see on the stereo store microscope that the stylus wasn't shot but was merely coated with vinyl crud that collects in particles and fuses with the heat created by moving across a record. Obviously, since it dissolves vinyl, you don't want to get the SC-2 fluid confused with your D4+ fluid. ;-) In closing, "Additional Record Cleaning Information" lifted from the brochure that came with the D4+ kit: 1. Although alcohol is used as a record cleaner, laboratory tests show it is unsafe because it extracts critical vinyl stabilizers. (Stabilizers are added to vinyl compounds to help maintain mechanical stability.) 2. Soaps, silicones, and household detergents leave a coating on the record surface. These coatings actually attract dust which, without removal, is ground into the grooves by stylus pressure. 3. Tap water contains about twice as much dry weight residue (material left after all water and volatile matter is dried away) as D4+ fluid. Other "record cleaners" can contain as much as 10 times more dry weight residue. The idea behind record cleaning is to remove contamination, not add to it. 4. When used exclusively, the Discwasher D4+ Record Care System will leave behind only the honest record surface for you to listen to. However, records that are pressed poorly, damaged, or made from low quality vinyl will never sound good, no matter how clean. (I think the brush/fluid kit currently sells for around $18-20, with most of that cost being the brush; fluid refills are pretty cheap) No, I have NO affiliation with the Discwasher company. :-) Michael David Toth TothMD@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TothMD@aol.com Subject: Dean Elliott, Esquivel, & cartoons Date: 08 Jan 1996 00:58:45 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# TothMD@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Cartoon Network recently ran a bunch of Dr. Suess cartoons, and I noticed a couple (incl. "Lorax") gave music credits as "Lyrics: Dr. Suess, Music: Dean Elliott." Now THERE is a combination... While a lot of what little I caught was generic, smarmy 70s TV music, there were some quirky moments that seemed to suggest it could be no other than the Zounds! man himself. Does anyone have any info on what Dean Elliott was up to after (and before) the "Zounds! What Sounds!" LP? Also, when I first heard Esquivel (on Fresh Air on NPR -- if anyone has a copy of that on tape they'd be willing to dub for me, I'd be ecstatic) and the "boink!boink!...zuzuzuzu" BGVs, my first response was, "Hey! It sounds like 'Eep Op Ork Ah-Ah,'" from the famed Jetson's episode "A Dream Date With Jet Screamer" (available on home video on the Jetsons First Episodes collection). One of the Esquivel CDs mentions that the Randy Van Horne Singers did do a lot of songs for Hanna-Barbera, and I've been wondering how close of a relationship this song really has to the Esquivel camp... Michael David Toth TothMD@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) Subject: Re: Another major joins the trend...& Capitol Neglect cont. Date: 07 Jan 1996 23:50:37 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. At 1:11 PM 1/7/96, lee@anti.com wrote: > I'd say buy the bootlegs and forget the majors, but the only problem > with that is the artist gets the 'boot'. In many cases actually (Atlantic being the most egregious offender here) even with authorized reissues the artist gets the "boot" with reduced and sometimes nonexistent royalty payments. ====================================================================== ====================================================================== "I know I don't have any talent, And I know all I have is a body, And I am doing my bust exercises ... Oh, the hell with them ... let 'em droop!" - Jennifer, _Valley_of_the_Dolls_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: transmat@teleport.com Subject: Joseph Lanza's new book? Date: 08 Jan 1996 01:40:24 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# transmat@teleport.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I was reading the Sunday NY Times, when I noticed that Joseph Lanza, author of "Elevator Music," has a new book out called "Bottoms Up: The Cocktail, Shaken and Stirred." Has anyone seen this? Sounds tasty :) richard _`~=~=~`boom~~`boom~=~= _-I-__\ /__ ` ~ / \_ -I- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cbennet0@counsel.com (Caressa Bennet -- Atty-Caressa Bennett - Washington ) Subject: Elliott/Suess Date: 08 Jan 1996 11:18:15 EST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# cbennet0@counsel.com (Caressa Bennet -- Atty-Caressa Bennett - Washington ) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. To: exotica, Inet Dean Elliott did some wonderful music for the Cat and the Hat television special. Combined with Suess's wordplay, it's a must-hear for anyone on this list. Although I'm not aware of it ever having been issued on record, as any parent will tell you, the half hour video is readily available. Pick it up. You won't regret it. Michael Bennet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lee@anti.com Subject: Re: Cleaning vinyl (info & a testimonial) & bootlegs Date: 08 Jan 1996 10:16:26 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lee@anti.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >I'm guessing you mean the old oversized-sandwich-bag-type sleeves in >old albums and not the poly-lined-paper sleeves collectors supplies >places sell and that they use with laser discs? Here is my observation: I bought both the 'plastic bag' type sleeves, and the plastic sleeves in the paper, back in the 70s. I covered my then 'treasures' such as mono Beatles albums. I moved but left many of these at my parents house. On one of my trips back, I began to look through my old collection. Some of these records haven't left their sleeves in a decade. To my SHOCK, many of the records in the plastic sleeves had this weird film on 'em that wasn't there last time I looked. Also, some pressing plants use stock plastic sleeves for new releases (older Rhino vinyl, Enigma, etc. ) Those also leave this 'film' on the vinyl after a while. Regarding the bootleggers, man, when they make really rare stuff available, they, in my book are HEROS. Also, in my last message I said that artists get the 'boot' with bootlegs, however, many times when older material gets issued, the artist never sees a penny. Lee ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: TothMD@aol.com at INTERNET <# Replies to this message will go to: <# TothMD@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. lee@anti.com wrote: > Two vinyl no-no's: > Rubbing alcohol murders vinyl! > so does those soft plastic sleeves! I'm guessing you mean the old oversized-sandwich-bag-type sleeves in old albums and not the poly-lined-paper sleeves collectors supplies places sell and that they use with laser discs? As far as the vinyl CLEANING thing goes -- the vacuum w/ fluid devices sound rather attractive, but both an out-of-state audiophile friend and the local high-end stereo store strongly stand by the Discwasher fluids and brush kits, like the D4+ record cleaning kit. I was elated with a recent find, a visually clean copy of The 3 Suns' "Fever & Smoke" (for 2 bucks! It really *is* that good, BTW, and the first 3 Suns record I've heard I refuse to part with at any price) and it played with some bearable but noticeable surface noise. After 2 plays and 2 D4 brush cleanings, the surface noise has mostly disappeared and it now sounds like a NM copy. While some albums still sound rough no matter how well they're cleaned, I was really impressed here. It's not alcohol, and I don't know WHAT this stuff is, but they make it out to be the product of some super-extensive lab research. I also have been using the "SC-2 Stylus Cleaning System" -- I thought my stylus was shot a couple months back (a Sumiko Blue Point-- absolutely dreamy, but my, have those gotten expensive) and was happy to see on the stereo store microscope that the stylus wasn't shot but was merely coated with vinyl crud that collects in particles and fuses with the heat created by moving across a record. Obviously, since it dissolves vinyl, you don't want to get the SC-2 fluid confused with your D4+ fluid. ;-) In closing, "Additional Record Cleaning Information" lifted from the brochure that came with the D4+ kit: 1. Although alcohol is used as a record cleaner, laboratory tests show it is unsafe because it extracts critical vinyl stabilizers. (Stabilizers are added to vinyl compounds to help maintain mechanical stability.) 2. Soaps, silicones, and household detergents leave a coating on the record surface. These coatings actually attract dust which, without removal, is ground into the grooves by stylus pressure. 3. Tap water contains about twice as much dry weight residue (material left after all water and volatile matter is dried away) as D4+ fluid. Other "record cleaners" can contain as much as 10 times more dry weight residue. The idea behind record cleaning is to remove contamination, not add to it. 4. When used exclusively, the Discwasher D4+ Record Care System will leave behind only the honest record surface for you to listen to. However, records that are pressed poorly, damaged, or made from low quality vinyl will never sound good, no matter how clean. (I think the brush/fluid kit currently sells for around $18-20, with most of that cost being the brush; fluid refills are pretty cheap) No, I have NO affiliation with the Discwasher company. :-) Michael David Toth TothMD@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sadin, Glenn" Subject: release dates Date: 08 Jan 1996 12:03:41 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Sadin, Glenn" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Some CD release dates that may be of interest here: 1/23 Various "Coctail Mix Vol 1: Bachelor's Guide to the Galaxy" (Rhino) Various "Coctail Mix Vol 2: Martini Madness" (Rhino) Various "Coctail Mix Vol 3: Swingin' Singles" (Rhino) 1/30 Hollyridge Strings "The Best of the Beatles Songbook" (Varese Vintage) Various "Music For a Bachelor's Den Vol 2: Exotica" (DCC) Various "Music For a Bachelor's Den Vol 3: Latin Rhythms & HiFi" (DCC) Various "Music For a Bachelor's Den Vol 4: Easy Rhythms For Cocktail Hour" (DCC) 2/13 Steve Allen "Plays HiFi Music For Influencials" (Varese Vintage) The Hi-Lo's "Nice Work If You Can Get It: The Best" (Varese Vintage) 2/27 Combustable Edison "Schizophrenic" (Sub Pop) Various "Shaken Not Stirred" (Ryko) Glenn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phil@stimpy.demon.co.uk (Phil Clark) Subject: Easy Project/Sound Gallery Date: 08 Jan 1996 21:40:17 GMT <# Replies to this message will go to: <# phil@stimpy.demon.co.uk (Phil Clark) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hi all Just a couple of quickies. First off I have to defend the EMI Sound Gallery album, as rather unfairly lambasted in a recent posting by a list member, who compared it unfavourably to the RCA "Space Age Pop" albums. IMO the two represent quite different styles of music from different eras originally aimed at different people, and cannot really be directly compared. I dig 'em both, BTW, but Sound Gallery gets my vote if I have to make a choice. Second up here's the track listing & info for the very wonderful "Easy Project" album, as requested by a couple of readers. "Easy Project" SEQUEL NEMCD 772, dist in the UK by Castle Communications, should be easily available worldwide thru CD-Now or some such. i) Laurie Johnson -The Shake ii) Ray McVay Sound - Kinda Kinky (this rocks out!) iii) Sounds Orchestral - Mas Que Nada iv) Johnny Dankworth - Lunar Walk v) Alan Tew - Walk on the Wild Side (the Jimmy Smith number not Lou Reed) vi) Johnny Hawksworth - It's Murder vii) Johnny Keating - Sam Benedict viii) Synthesonic Sounds - House of the Rising Sun ix) Paraffin Jack Flash - Blue & Groovy x) Johnny Keating - The Clown xi) Laurie Johnson - Echo 42 xii) John Shakespeare - Mucho Mexico Seven O xiii) Les Reed Piano - High Society xiv) Eliminators - Staccato xv) Alan Tew - Ironside xvi) Johnny Keating - Getaway xvii) Synthesonic Sounds - Superfly xviii) Ray McVay Sound - Revenge (yeah!!!!!) xix) John Schroeder - But She Ran the Other Way xx) Harry Roche Constellation - Spiral (ten-minute extravaganza!) Highly recommended anyhow to all fans of Brit loungecore. Also a quick query - I recently picked up one of those low-budget cod-psych albums, "The Underground Set" released here in 1970 on the el cheapo Saga label - does anyone have any info on this? or is it just a bunch of session men in their lunch-hour? It's quite good anyhow. With a psychedelic gleam in my eye at all times, Phil phil@stimpy.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: Cleaning vinyl (info & a testimonial) & bootlegs Date: 08 Jan 1996 23:12:16 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# LTepedino@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. One more point to add to your love of these bootleggers - many retailers are begining to question the legal authenticity of reissues by bone fide real indie labels like Bacchus Archives, Asphodel and Scamp and many consumers are wonder if the quality on these might be as bad as the bootlegs. Ashley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: Joseph Lanza's new book? Date: 08 Jan 1996 23:20:30 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# LTepedino@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. It's a great book. By the way the Times got the title wrong - it's actually called "The Cocktail - The Influence of Spirits on the American Psyche" Ashley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TothMD@aol.com Subject: Re: who are these guys? Date: 09 Jan 1996 00:32:35 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# TothMD@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. "kevin" wrote: > i keep bumping into certain familiar faces whose music is > unbeknownst to me. can anyone help clarify who these guys (listed > below) are and what their merits and good albums are???: > Andre Kostelanetz I have one wild Andre Kostelanetz album called AND GOD CREATED GREAT WHALES (Columbia Masterworks M 30390). Other than the 11:25 title track, the rest of the album is pretty safe classical-oriented orchestral, and I presume most of his albums fall into that catagory. But oh, that title track!! Full orchestra mixed with tapes of "the actual songs of humpback whales" in four movements... The song was actually composed by Alan Hovhaness, who had this to say in the liner notes: "Undersea mountains rise and fall in horns, trombones, and tuba. Music of whales also rises and falls like mountain ranges. Song of whale emerges like giant mythical sea bird." (sic) Whooo-eee, Michael Toth TothMD@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TothMD@aol.com Subject: Vinyl for bid/trade Date: 09 Jan 1996 00:32:42 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# TothMD@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I haven't seen many of these for sale sort of postings on this mailing list since I joined, and I hope I'm not violating any sort of Exotiquette :-) here... Here's a bunch of vinyl I have for bid or trade: best trade or cash offer by 1/21/96 gets the item, tie offers awarded by date; I'll notify all winning bids by 1/24/96. Albums are graded on the P/G/VG/NM/M scale, vinyl first, cover second, usually with a combination of aural/visual vinyl grading (I've pretty much personally listened to all of these). E-mail me if you have any questions about the grading scale, bid system, or need specific condition/other info on any of the records. Some wants are listed at the end, with a BIG interest being several of these bootleg CD reissues that are turning up. Postage: $3.50 plus $1 for each additional item (UPS preferred, with its tighter tracking and insurance), waived on trades. E-mail me at TothMD@aol.com (and not the list ;-)) if you're interested. Thanks, Michael David Toth TothMD@aol.com ====================================================================== - - LES BAXTER - African Jazz (Capitol/Stereo) VG+/VG - - MARTIN DENNY - Exotica: The Exciting Sounds of... 4-song 7" 45 EP on dark green Liberty label "Lotus Land" & "Similau" b/w "Waipio" & "Love Dance" VG+ (in generic white paper sleeve) - - DEAN ELLIOTT - Zounds! What Sounds! (Capitol/Stereo) NM+/NM+ (it's in fabulous condition and arguably my favorite Exoticaish album, but I've got one of those bootleg CDs, and am now willing to part with the LP for the right offer; beware, however -- I dearly *love* this album, and unless I get an *incredible* offer on it, I'd rather not part with the original vinyl; but if a vinyl-particular collector REALLY needs it more than I...) - - ESQUIVEL, HIS PIANO & GROUP - Four Corners of the World (RCA/Living Stereo) VG/VG - - FERRANTE & TEICHER - Golden Piano Hits (UA/Mono) VG+/VG+ ("Promotion Copy" label; slight bow in gatefold sleeve & slight cone warp in vinyl -- does not affect play on my stereo) - - FERRANTE & TEICHER - We Wish You a Merry Christmas (Mistletoe/Stereo) VG+/VG+ (appears to be budget reissue of UA release) - - JACKIE GLEASON - The Now Sound...For Today's Lovers (Capitol/Stereo) VG+/NM - - MARTY GOLD - Soundpower!: Music to the Limits of Audibility (RCA/Living Stereo Dynagroove) VG+/VG+ - - RAY MARTIN - Excitement, Incorporated (RCA/Stereo Action) VG+/VG - - NORRIE PARAMOR - Jet Flight (Capitol/Stereo) VG+/VG - - HENRI RENE' - The Swinging 59 (Imperial/Stereo) M-/M- - - DICK SCHORY'S PERCUSSION POPS ORCH. - Supercussion (RCA/Living Stereo Dynagroove) VG+/VG- (has Coral/Brunswick inner sleeve instead of orig. RCA) - - THE THREE SUNS - In Orbit (Rondo/Stereo) VG+/VG- (Rondo?!!?) - - VARIOUS ARTISTS - Stereo Action Unlimited! (RCA/Stereo Action) VG+/G - - PAUL WESTON & ORCH. - Reflections of an Indian Boy: A Tone Poem by Carl Fischer (Columbia/Mono) VG-/G ** Not exactly Exotica, but also sorta odd, sorta collectible, & available for bid/trade: ** - - DON ADAMS - Live? (UA/Mono) VG+/VG+ (monologue @ The Sands) - - TOM LEHRER - That Was the Year That Was (Reprise/Mono) VG+/M- - - ROWAN & MARTIN'S LAUGH-IN (Epic/Stereo) VG+/VG (Die-Cut windows cover; "w/ Special Guest Barbara Feldon") - - JOHN TRAVOLTA - John Travolta (Midland International,1976) VG+/VG (absolutely horrifying) - - SKIDOO: ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK (RCA/Stereo) M-/M- (orig. soundtrack by Nilsson from obscure, awful-looking 1968 Otto Preminger film starring, among others, Carol Channing (sings on LP), Jackie Gleason, Frankie Avalon, Burgess Meredith, Cesar Romero, Mickey Rooney, and Groucho Marx as "God"; I don't think this is available on video, so it's a good thing it's got stills on the back cover!) WANTS (to buy or trade; VG or better on vinyl): - - Several of the Exotica/IncrediblyStrange bootleg/limited edition CD reissues - - PAT BERKERY & SPUR - Prayers For a Noonday Church (Scottish) - - MALCOLM BOYD & CHARLIE BYRD - Are you Running With Me, Jesus? - - GARY GLITTER - non-compilation LPs - - GUITARS UNLIMITED PLUS 7 - Crazy Rhythm - - PEE WEE HERMAN shaped Picture Disc - - NEAL HEFTI - Hefti In Gotham City - - GERSHON KINGSLEY LPs - - A SCANNER DARKLY - This Is the Way - - LIGHT SLEEPER SOUNDTRACK (UK CD) - - MICHAEL MORET - "Want Me" 12" single - - MY BLOODY VALENTINE - Soon (Live in Japan bootleg CD) - - Christian aerobic workout LPs Michael David Toth TothMD@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: Silver Apples question Date: 08 Jan 1996 20:58:08 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. can anyone tell something about this new cd by Silver Apples "1968/CONTACT 1969" (MYSA014 or TRC 78737, Holland, 1995)? what kind of music is it? thanx! - -johan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: Ferrante & Teicher Date: 08 Jan 1996 20:57:05 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. it seems that F&T's prepared piano LP "Hi-Fireworks" (Columbia CL 573) was reissued later as Fireworks (Columbia HS 11227), HOWEVER: 1) with the omission of 2 great songs: "Susanna's last stand" & "Semper fidelis" 2) electronically re-channeled for stereo, which is not bad at all: I think of it as just another effect added to the wonderfull wizardy of F&T. I have no idea about the release years of these 2. I also can confirm that the 7 prepared piano tracks on the CD "Autumn leaves" (Sony Special Products A 13407, USA, 1993) are with added string sections; they're wonderfull :) - -johan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: Re: Pizzicato 5 Date: 08 Jan 1996 20:58:17 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. kevin king wrote: >Just got this cd and excellent pop it is, I *must* say! Very >different from This Year's Girl (no sampling, not as funky), and >exotica it may or may not be. The self-description "a collection of >some Bacharach-ish syncopations and AABA's..." is accurate enough. >But I'd add Mendes-ish (vocals) and Mancini-ish. One of my favorite cuts ends >with a transition from Odd Couple theme bounciness to a Pink Panther >jazz swank!!! A great, great cd - but a forewarning emphasis on >*pop*. would you share the title, label and origin info with us please? Greetings from Johan johan.devis@ping.be (home: Wivina 15, 1702, Belgium) A HAPPY & HEALTHY NEW YEAR TO YOU ! ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: doc@pixar.com (Pete Docter) Subject: Re:Dean Elliott Date: 08 Jan 1996 09:38 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# doc@pixar.com (Pete Docter) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >Cartoon Network recently ran a bunch of Dr. Suess cartoons, and I noticed a >couple (incl. "Lorax") gave music credits as "Lyrics: Dr. Suess, Music: Dean >Elliott." Now THERE is a combination... While a lot of what little I caught >was generic, smarmy 70s TV music, there were some quirky moments that seemed >to suggest it could be no other than the Zounds! man himself. Does anyone >have any info on what Dean Elliott was up to after (and before) the "Zounds! >What Sounds!" LP? A guy I know said he crossed paths with Dean Elliott at some cartoon studio (I forget which one) where Mr. Elliott was doing music. I believe he wrote background music (if one can refer to music with screaming trumpets as "background") for "Plastic Man." I've found that, besides "Zounds!", Dean produced "Heartstrings" (9/3 '63) for Capitol, but I haven't been able to find it. Anyone know of any others? Pete Docter doc@pixar.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Stewart" Subject: Bootlegging, my million dollars worth Date: 08 Jan 1996 16:06:34 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Bryan Stewart" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I couldn't agree with Ashley more. Bootlegging is wrong. It's also against the law. That's not just my opinion. I know some people may want to sugercoat it and justify it, but it don't cut mustard with me. Bootleggers are parasites who prey on the copyright infringement of artists and record companies. I won't kiss their ass by buying their 'product'. If something isn't legitimately available, then I do without. We may not like record companies, but they are who they are and we gotta deal with it. That doesn't mean that I'm gonna kiss their ass either! What they have done with artist royalties is reprehensible. But what the bootleggers have done is even worse. At least with a major label, there is a chance that some royalties might be paid in the future. With the bootlegger, there isn't a prayer in hell. Exotica/Space-Age Batchelor Pad Music is only recently becomming popular. It was only just last month, my local Tower just opened a Space-Age Batchelor Pad music section. They are now beginning to recognize how hip this great music is. This section isn't very big at the moment, but it will grow. It's gonna take time. Record companies are slow and they don't move as fast as some people (myself included) would like. I just use a little patience. With time, things will get better. I believe that. Bryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lee@anti.com Subject: Bootlegging, my two million dollars worth Date: 09 Jan 1996 11:10:45 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lee@anti.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >>Bootlegging is wrong. Bullshit. Bootlegging is not wrong. Especially when it comes to very obscure records. The entire 60s garage movement of the 80s and 90s were a DIRECT result of bootleg compilations of OBSCURE singles that NO ONE BUT HARDCORE RECORD COLLECTORS could get their hands on. Those records brought an entire spectrum of music to KIDS who were tired of contemporary punk and didn't want to have to buy Lional Ritchie or Wham! for their entertainment. And, because of that interest, many artists who were bootlegged got a chance to license their old tapes that they thought were worthless! Same goes for surf (don't tell me that the bootleg surf comps that have been floating around for the last 15 years have NOTHING to do with the current surf revival that has renewed interest in legit labels such as Del-Fi, who's music WAS ONLY AVAILABLE on boots through the 70s and 80s). In many cases, the artist owes more to the bootleggers who generated interest in their music, than any major label who keeps catalog buried. In addition, some of the best records ever made came out on SMALL LABELS in pressings of 1000, 500 and even less. These things in their day were never heard outside of the hometowns of the artists! Bootleggers have created WORLDWIDE INTEREST in this stuff. Bootleggeing also makes the large labels aware that there is a demand for 'obscurities'. There were boots of the live Beatles Hollywood Bowl shows, BBC broadcasts and outtakes that kept fans happy. I for one lost interest in The Beatles until I discovered these wonderful records. And, after a while, the big boys realize that there is a demand for the stuff and they put it out! You, who do not take all into consideration on issues like this are the Archie Bunkers of music. Don't make waves, accept what is handed to you, don't question anyone or anything. You in my opinion are boring and have no life. From the top of my hot head, to the bottom of my musical heart, Lee A. Joseph ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: "Bryan Stewart" at INTERNET <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Bryan Stewart" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I couldn't agree with Ashley more. Bootlegging is wrong. It's also against the law. That's not just my opinion. I know some people may want to sugercoat it and justify it, but it don't cut mustard with me. Bootleggers are parasites who prey on the copyright infringement of artists and record companies. I won't kiss their ass by buying their 'product'. If something isn't legitimately available, then I do without. We may not like record companies, but they are who they are and we gotta deal with it. That doesn't mean that I'm gonna kiss their ass either! What they have done with artist royalties is reprehensible. But what the bootleggers have done is even worse. At least with a major label, there is a chance that some royalties might be paid in the future. With the bootlegger, there isn't a prayer in hell. Exotica/Space-Age Batchelor Pad Music is only recently becomming popular. It was only just last month, my local Tower just opened a Space-Age Batchelor Pad music section. They are now beginning to recognize how hip this great music is. This section isn't very big at the moment, but it will grow. It's gonna take time. Record companies are slow and they don't move as fast as some people (myself included) would like. I just use a little patience. With time, things will get better. I believe that. Bryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bill wynne" Subject: RCA VICTOR - Sad News Date: 10 Jan 1996 8:39:45 EST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "bill wynne" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. On Monday, the old RCA Victor building in Camden, NJ was destroyed by a six- alarm fire. Firefighting efforts were hampered by a blizzard which paralyzed the entire eastern seaboard. The RCA Victor building has not been in use for many years, but as a native Philadelphian-cum-New Jerseyite and a record collector, it served as a reminder of a time long past. This particular leg of RCA's operation was primarily (if I understand correctly) a pressing plant, but has not been used in some 20 years. The building may actually have been "home" to homeless people from the Camden area, all of whom are believed to have perished in the fire. Bill Wynne ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Lanza's New Book und Reissues From Rykodisc Date: 09 Jan 1996 12:20:02 EST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Joseph Lanza's new book is "The Cocktail" from St. Martins. Albeit he likes his martini's avec gin, it's a great read. You may want to try and win the book over at the Space Age Bachelor Pad Site, by writing a witty recipe for a vodka martini. To confuse matters worse, especially for those fact-checkers at the NYT, Joseph wrote the liner notes to our release coming out in February, Shaken Not Stirred. Reissues: viability versus collecting. At the moment, Rykodisc has purchased the masters and the rights to those masters from HiFi/Everest. We have no idea what the market is for this material. I would hope there are at least 5000 people in the world who will buy MR. Z's POLKAS and other strange and interesting releases. Who knows? The reason other labels are getting into this genre is that they have a load of masters gathering dust. The ascent of Esquivel back into the consciousness of the nation woke alot of people up, including the companies that really owned the masters to his work. Asphodel unearthed Ken Nordine's classic COLORS. I was after this stuff and urged our company to make an offer, but we coughed and Asphodel got this piece of hip-geniuosity. As for the legitimacy of these re-releases, while I cannot speak for all, but from my conversations with the label people at Asphodel and Scamp, you should know that at least we three are clearing the rights. Scamp has direct access to the Capitol vaults and I know Asphodel was dealing directly with Nordine, so there you are. How deep we will go into the masters is unknown to me. I do know that Joseph Lanza is interested in our more moodier tracks (as evidenced by his dismay on our leaving off a Gerald Wiggins track) and I am trying to locate Lyman for consultation on a project. I would also like to put Taboo out on our audiophile series Au20. Who knows. Obviously if all our labels can get interest from the hardcore exotica collectors and those mainstreamers who are wading in the popular eddies, well then it makes it easier to convince those who really make the decisions to make the right decisions. "If it sells, well then let's sell it." I hate to be so negative, but i guess we pay the big bucks to those who can see the obvious. I am on this list to see what's happening in the world of exotica. Please write about what you want to see out there and I am sure we will check them out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Theremin (the movie) Date: 09 Jan 1996 11:17:33 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Lazlo Nibble <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. The latest issue of The Laserdisc Newsletter includes a listing for an upcoming release of the film Theremin on laserdisc. I assume this means a release on tape as well. Does anyone have further details? - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dx@netcom.com (dx) Subject: Re: Bootlegging, my two million dollars worth Date: 10 Jan 1996 06:15:43 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dx@netcom.com (dx) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > You, who do not take all into consideration on issues like this are > the Archie Bunkers of music. Don't make waves, accept what is handed > to you, don't question anyone or anything. You in my opinion are > boring and have no life. And you seem to live in a fantasy world where all bootleggers are altruistic heroes who are only interested in saving interesting music from obscurity. But it just isn't so. The bootleg world is a lot more than Deadheads or Beatle fanatic trading tapes (and now CDs) of otherwise unavailable music. It's a business, with bootleggers profiteering from the efforts of artists without any compensation to those who actually produced the art in the first place. Those who bootleg live concerts not only make a profit off of someone else's art, but they do so at the expense of the artist's decision as to whether the live concert experience is something they want canned and repeatable. - -dx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: Pizzicato 5 Date: 09 Jan 1996 12:16:51 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "kevin king" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > >Just got this cd and excellent pop it is, I *must* say! Very > >different from This Year's Girl (no sampling, not as funky), and > >exotica it may or may not be. > would you share the title, label and origin info with us please? It's *Couples* from 1987 on Sony (Japan) SRCL3373 and is available through CDEurope. There's a Pizzicato 5 web page (don't have the url) which proved very useful in selecting from among their numerous releases, many of which are remixes as someone previously mentioned. kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) Subject: Re:Dean Elliott Date: 09 Jan 1996 13:56:56 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. On 1/8/96 Pete Docter (doc@pixar.com) wrote: about Dean Elliott- >I've found that, besides "Zounds!", Dean produced "Heartstrings" (9/3 '63) >for Capitol, but I haven't been able to find it. Anyone know of any others? Just those 2 on Capitol (BTW I have "Heartstrings" and it's nothing like "Zounds", it's straight EZ, heavy on the strings, similar to Nelson Riddle's "Sea of Dreams" and "Love Is A Game of Poker". A couple of cuts feature that cool early 60's sound of reverb drenched pizzacato strings mixed with orchestra bells). Elliot did a soundtrack album for the film "College Confidential" on Chancellor (1958). It's Crime Jazz with all the top West Coast players. Never seen the film - Steve Allen, Jayne Meadows, Walter Winchell and Mamie Van Doren. br cleve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: T P Uschanov Subject: Re: Bootlegging, my million dollars worth Date: 09 Jan 1996 18:25:55 +0200 (EET) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# T P Uschanov <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. On Tue, 9 Jan 1996 Bryan Stewart wrote: > Bootlegging is wrong. It's also against the law. That's not just my opinion. I > know some people may want to sugercoat it and justify it, but it don't cut > mustard with me. Bootleggers are parasites who prey on the copyright > infringement of artists and record companies. I won't kiss their ass by buying > their 'product'. If something isn't legitimately available, then I do without. But there are places in which certain kinds of bootlegging is legitimate. And, for example, the late great Route 66 label of Sweden hunted down and paid royalties to every artist they bootlegged (or their estate) on every copy they made, even every review copy they sent to zines. Even though they only were liable to pay the composing royalties when releasing pre-1961 recordings prior to pre-1990s copyright law revisions. And what about a situation in which the artist bootlegs his own stuff? What if he does it _at a loss_? It has happened in real life. T P Uschanov (Mr), University of Helsinki, Finland, European Union. tuschano@cc.helsinki.fi ---- http://www.helsinki.fi/~tuschano/ "Property is theft." (Pierre-Joseph Proudhon) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kenneth H Ellzey" Subject: Re: who are these guys? Date: 09 Jan 1996 11:19:51 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Kenneth H Ellzey" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. On Jan 9, 12:32am, TothMD@aol.com wrote: > Subject: Re: who are these guys? > <# Replies to this message will go to: > <# TothMD@aol.com > <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. > <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > > "kevin" wrote: > > > i keep bumping into certain familiar faces whose music is > > unbeknownst to me. can anyone help clarify who these guys (listed > > below) are and what their merits and good albums are???: > > Andre Kostelanetz > > I have one wild Andre Kostelanetz album called AND GOD CREATED GREAT WHALES > (Columbia Masterworks M 30390). Other than the 11:25 title track, the rest > of the album is pretty safe classical-oriented orchestral, and I presume most > of his albums fall into that catagory. But oh, that title track!! Full > orchestra mixed with tapes of "the actual songs of humpback whales" in four > movements... > > The song was actually composed by Alan Hovhaness, who had this to say in the > liner notes: > "Undersea mountains rise and fall in horns, trombones, and tuba. Music of > whales also rises and falls like mountain ranges. Song of whale emerges like > giant mythical sea bird." (sic) > > Whooo-eee, > Michael Toth > TothMD@aol.com >-- End of excerpt from TothMD@aol.com Forget Kostelanetz, Alan Hovhaness is the one to look for. Exotic Classical, Classic Exotica. You can find it in the Classical section of your favorite CD store. Kostelanetz did another of Hovhaness' works on his album "Exotic Nights" (1963(?) Columbia something or other). Ken Ellzey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) Subject: Re: Ferrante & Teicher Date: 09 Jan 1996 13:56:46 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. On 1/8/96 Johan De Vis (johan.devis@ping.be) wrote: >it seems that F&T's prepared piano LP "Hi-Fireworks" (Columbia CL 573) was >reissued later as Fireworks (Columbia HS 11227), HOWEVER: >1) with the omission of 2 great songs: "Susanna's last stand" & "Semper >fidelis" >2) electronically re-channeled for stereo, which is not bad at all: I think >of it as just another effect added to the wonderfull wizardy of F&T. >I have no idea about the release years of these 2. "Hi-Fireworks" was F &T's first LP, released by Columbia in 1955. They also had 2 records of Broadway show tunes (non-prepared) on Columbia (I believe they were 10" albums). Columbia reissued the album as "Fireworks" on its Harmony budget label in the mid-sixties, incorporating that insidious practice of deleting 2 songs to save on publishing payments (hello Capitol and MCA!). But at least they didn't add the strings, like Pickwick/MCA/ABC did (as well as chop off 2 cuts...........WAAAUUUUGGHH!!) (sorry, I couldn't help myself) For those of you keeping score at home, the original prepared piano albums are 1)"Hi-Fireworks" {Columbia} 2)"Adventures in Carols" 3)"Soundproof" 4) "Soundblast" {Westminster} 5)"Heavenly Sounds in Hi Fi" 6) "F & T With Percussion" 7) "Blast Off" {ABC} 8)"Dynamic Twin Pianos" . There is some prepared piano on 9) "Pianos In Paradise" {United Artists} and on their 1988 CD "Dos Amigos" {Avant Garde}. The ABC reissues on Pickwick are "In Love with Ferrante & Teicher" and "More Exciting Pianos of F &T". "Dynamic Twin Pianos" was reissued by UA as "Keyboard Kapers". The Sony CD is ABC material. The new MCA CD "Easy Listening Favorites" is "Heavenly Sounds......" minus 2 cuts (grrrrrrrr.........) The "Midnight Cowboy" LP features the fabulous "underwater" guitar of Vinnie Bell (which is also featured on the amazing Dick Hyman album "Moon Gas", but that's another story for another time) br cleve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "C" Subject: Industry check Date: 10 Jan 1996 10:33:53 -0600 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "C" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. You know I can't help but notice that a good chunk of this list seems to be music biz people , and since conversations have turned more political has of late (not that this a bad thing) thing seem to be reading like a conference with lots of insider info bandied about, and I am just sort of curious who is who. (not for the schmooze factor , but why this person would know what their talking about) Just to start the ball rolling I run two label that are part of TRG (a rediscovered subsidiary of Twin Tone , but that has nothing to do with restless) The only Exotica stuff I am dealing with on a professional level is a Les Baxter Tribute record that will hopefully be released in late spring(but I am guessing it will really be in September) /:::\/::::::\ /:::::::::::::\ * /:::::::::::::::\ * ********************* " Ho Ho Ho" \ "" "" / \ (@) (@) / \ J / -Santa Claus \ --- / \________/ / \ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "C" Subject: soda pop(bubble up, dr.pepper etc) Date: 10 Jan 1996 10:39:51 -0600 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "C" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. there is an album called a twist of lemon, that was put out for the Dr. pepper company in the mid 60's , it is pretty unremarkable lots of EZ listening hits aimed at the kids ( I believe Bob Goulet may actually be on this one) but what makes the record cool is the spoken word intro from Dick Clark and a recipe on the album cover for warm Dr. Pepper(eeehhheew!!!!!!) /:::\/::::::\ /:::::::::::::\ * /:::::::::::::::\ * ********************* " Ho Ho Ho" \ "" "" / \ (@) (@) / \ J / -Santa Claus \ --- / \________/ / \ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Howard Subject: Huh? Date: 10 Jan 1996 12:24:05 EDT <# Replies to this message will go to: <# David Howard <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hmmm? I'm a little confused. I can certainly see the fun in rumaging through a dusty thrift store wading through the scratchy Poco and Captain and Tenille records in hopes of uncovering some hidden treasure. Ken Nordine absolutely. Martin Denny of...Les Baxter maybe...Arthur Lyman I guess I can see it. But some of the dreck that people seem to be getting excited about is baffling. Hollyridge Strings? Ferrante &Teicher---c'mon! Dick Hyman, Montovani?!? This is some of the lamest stuff ever recorded. It sucked then and it still sucks now. Even more baffling is this stuff getting pressed onto CD's. Half of what made the best of this stuff cool in the first place was the outrageous cover art, and the other half was that the price of this stuff was rarely over 50 cents. But with CD's, the cover art is too small to enjoy and the price is twenty to thirty times what this stuff was going for before all these bozo-space-age-bachelor-pad-fetishizers came along. I was in a store recently and saw Esquivel records for $100. I'm sure buried under that price tag was another for 25 cents. But if people want to pay that price fine, mazel tov! If people want to buy the 40 CD box set of 101 strings more power to them. But I hope you have a lot of friends to play this stuff for, because as anyone knows camp is only amusing when you have someone to share it with. And if you don't, and you come home after a hard day, loosen your tie, mix yourself a dry martini from your bamboo tiki bar and plop down in your favorite easy chair and reach for the CD remote I sure hope it's not playing Ferrante & Teichers' jungle version of "Theme From A Summer Place". And if it is may God have pity on your soul. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dx@netcom.com (dx) Subject: Re: Huh? Date: 10 Jan 1996 09:53:07 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dx@netcom.com (dx) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > Hmmm? I'm a little confused. I can certainly see the fun in rumaging through > a dusty thrift store wading through the scratchy Poco and Captain and Tenille > records in hopes of uncovering some hidden treasure. Ken Nordine absolutely. > Martin Denny of...Les Baxter maybe...Arthur Lyman I guess I can see it. But > some of the dreck that people seem to be getting excited about is baffling. > Hollyridge Strings? Ferrante &Teicher---c'mon! Dick Hyman, Montovani?!? This > is some of the lamest stuff ever recorded. It sucked then and it still sucks > now. Perhaps not ironically, the last half of your statement sounds strikingly familiar to what I heard 10 years ago about the artists you list first. I heard exactly the same comments in 1985 about Martin Denny (though with quite a few more explitives mixed in). > I hope you have a lot of friends to play this stuff for, because as anyone > knows camp is only amusing when you have someone to share it with. The assumption that someone listens to the prepared piano treatements of Ferrante & Teicher for camp value is rather a large jump, isn't it? I suspect that much of the audience on this list sincerely enjoys the music that we discuss, rather than the peacock value. - -dx With, sad as it may seem to you, Bert Kaempfert playing quietly for no one but myself. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lee@anti.com Subject: Re[2]: who are these guys? Date: 10 Jan 1996 10:02:27 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lee@anti.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Man, that sucks. Reminds me of when the amazing but unused piece of LA deco arcetecture, The Pan Pacific, burned down a number of years ago. More modern history lost forever (don't get me started on the strip mall that sits on what used to be Goldstar Studios)! Lee ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: "Kenneth H Ellzey" at INTERNET <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Kenneth H Ellzey" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. On Jan 9, 12:32am, TothMD@aol.com wrote: > Subject: Re: who are these guys? > <# Replies to this message will go to: > <# TothMD@aol.com > <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. > <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > > "kevin" wrote: > > > i keep bumping into certain familiar faces whose music is > > unbeknownst to me. can anyone help clarify who these guys (listed > > below) are and what their merits and good albums are???: > > Andre Kostelanetz > > I have one wild Andre Kostelanetz album called AND GOD CREATED GREAT WHALES > (Columbia Masterworks M 30390). Other than the 11:25 title track, the rest > of the album is pretty safe classical-oriented orchestral, and I presume most > of his albums fall into that catagory. But oh, that title track!! Full > orchestra mixed with tapes of "the actual songs of humpback whales" in four > movements... > > The song was actually composed by Alan Hovhaness, who had this to say in the > liner notes: > "Undersea mountains rise and fall in horns, trombones, and tuba. Music of > whales also rises and falls like mountain ranges. Song of whale emerges like > giant mythical sea bird." (sic) > > Whooo-eee, > Michael Toth > TothMD@aol.com >-- End of excerpt from TothMD@aol.com Forget Kostelanetz, Alan Hovhaness is the one to look for. Exotic Classical, Classic Exotica. You can find it in the Classical section of your favorite CD store. Kostelanetz did another of Hovhaness' works on his album "Exotic Nights" (1963(?) Columbia something or other). Ken Ellzey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: Re: Exotica Mailing List Digest V1 #66 Date: 10 Jan 1996 20:06:42 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. cbennet0@counsel.com (Caressa Bennet) wrote: >i was wondering if anyone knows if there is a way to search old >digests for entries pertaining to certain artists or albums. if you have saved all these digests to your hard disk, then you could use a utility that can perform a search through the directory/folder whith the digests. - -johan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Keep it civil, people... Date: 10 Jan 1996 20:06:42 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Lazlo Nibble <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Just a reminder. We've got a couple of threads going that could turn into flame wars pretty easily; please don't let that happen. - -- ::: Lazlo (your list admin) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Subject: The exploitation of cool music Date: 10 Jan 1996 12:04:03 -0700 (PDT) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Jeff <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I have one, brief question: How long is it going to be before Tower and all the record labels push all these reissues so much that annoying drama students and mallrats with tiny black backpacks flock to their local record stores to buy this ultra-hip, "totally alternative" stuff? If I see Esquivel being interviewed on MTV, I will probably move to another part of the world. - -Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Carlson Subject: Re: Recent Topics Date: 10 Jan 1996 15:16:00 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Craig Carlson <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Some two centses on current topics: >dx@netcom.com (dx) wrote: >And you seem to live in a fantasy world where all bootleggers are altruistic >heroes who are only interested in saving interesting music from obscurity. >But it just isn't so. The bootleg world is a lot more than Deadheads or Beatle >fanatic trading tapes (and now CDs) of otherwise unavailable music. It's a >business, with bootleggers profiteering from the efforts of artists without >any compensation to those who actually produced the art in the first place. >Those who bootleg live concerts not only make a profit off of someone else's >art, but they do so at the expense of the artist's decision as to whether >he live concert experience is something they want canned and repeatable. When talking about legit bootlegs vs. profit bootlegs, I think it s kinda like pornography; you know it when you see it. Granted this is an imperfect argument and won t hold up in court (even though I m paraphrasing a federal judge!), but this is pretty obscure and/or archaic music we re discussing here, not currently working artists. I do believe that the people who unearth Exotica obscurities and bootleg them are not profiting, but are performing a service to the collectors and artists (as has been mentioned before). Jeez, I can t even find these boots, so how hard can they be pushing this stuff? >David_Howard@notes.lis.cch.com (David Howard) wrote: >I hope you have a lot of friends to play this stuff for, because as anyone >knows camp is only amusing when you have someone to share it with. And if Here s a funny story. Last Thanksgiving I went to visit some friends in another state; they had no inkling of my latest musical interests, but they are used to my eccentricities. I had been listening (alone, the rest of my family humors me as best they can) to Tony Mottloa a lot so I figured I would tape Roman Guitars (aieee! a bootleg!) for one of them. This guy plays guitar in the Steve Morse/Eric Johnson/Alec Leifson vein, so I figured it would be appreciated on a very campy level. 'Hey! it sounds like Ren and Stimpy music', he said. We had a laugh about it with much head-shaking about my latest hobby. About a half hour later we found him in the corner of the room with his Les Paul and the Mottloa tape on, methodically learning the parts to Tony s version of the Tarantella. He had it down by the end of the night. Moral: It started as a joke, but it s really art! And it s still pretty damn funny! Coming soon: Treasure Hunts in the Northeast corridor, and a strange experience. See Ya Craig ccarlson@wgl.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ricardo Wang Subject: Re: Bootlegging, my two million dollars worth Date: 10 Jan 1996 12:34:52 -0800 (PST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Ricardo Wang <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. On Wed, 10 Jan 1996, dx wrote: > And you seem to live in a fantasy world where all bootleggers are altruistic > heroes who are only interested in saving interesting music from obscurity. But > it just isn't so. The bootleg world is a lot more than Deadheads or Beatle > fanatic trading tapes (and now CDs) of otherwise unavailable music. It's a > business, with bootleggers profiteering from the efforts of artists without > any compensation to those who actually produced the art in the first place. > Those who bootleg live concerts not only make a profit off of someone else's > art, but they do so at the expense of the artist's decision as to whether > the live concert experience is something they want canned and repeatable. > > -dx but the point that the last person's post was making wasn't about deadhead's and beattle fans. it was about bootlegs of obscure music and exotica, and the point wasn't about altruism it was about interest in music being generated by recordings being kept alive. similarly, record companies have been telling us for years that to make mix tapes and tape albums for friends will destroy music, yet anyone can tell what a bunch of hogwash that is. and now there are used cds available everywhere and the artist gets no royalties from those either, but i always buy them if i buy any cds at all (how many people on this list exist on free promo copies and never buy anything i wonder?) sure most bootleggers are probably greedy assholes, they are after all trying to make money in the music biz, but some aren't and some actually DO pay the artists royalties because they are fans and it is the labels they are trying to screw. it's just ridiculous to think that if commerce is done within the legal limits set by government that it will naturally be o.k. and that if you step outside the law things will be bad, it is quite often the oposite. - - ricardo wang ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: Silver Apples question Date: 09 Jan 1996 11:48:05 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "kevin king" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > can anyone tell something about this new cd by Silver Apples "1968/CONTACT > 1969" (MYSA014 or TRC 78737, Holland, 1995)? what kind of music is it? > thanx! This is a compilation of what I understand to be their only two albums, the first of which I scored recently at a used shop. It's a great album! Probably what might be called seminal. The sound is low-tech, lyrics are 70's mystique introspection - very arty, minimal - sort of like a mix between Stereolab and Velvet Underground. If you like both of these bands, your certain to like Silver Apples. I would think that it would only be classifiable as exotica, though, through the use of make-shift instruments and electronica. kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Malcolm Humes Subject: Theremin film on video Date: 10 Jan 1996 13:24:41 -0800 (PST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Malcolm Humes <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Lazlo: >The latest issue of The Laserdisc Newsletter includes a listing for an upcoming >release of the film Theremin on laserdisc. I assume this means a release on >tape as well. Does anyone have further details? Orion has plans for a video release around March. Their website at: http://www.iquest.net/theremin/ has a page up about the video, catalog number and all, but with street release date of March 26th. I got notice from the Discovery Channel online folks that my Theremin page will be cited in a pending feature there on the 12th... I assume it'll be some feature article on Theremin or electronic music - can't see any sign of the film in their program schedule that day but I assume the webfeature has a tie-in to some Discovery channel mentioning theremins. Anyway, check out http://www.discovery.com/ Friday for presumably some Theremin connection beyond just a link to my theremin page. - Malcolm mal@emf.net http://www.emf.net/~mal ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Rhodewalt Subject: Re: Huh? Date: 10 Jan 1996 13:19:32 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Bruce Rhodewalt <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. dx wrote: > > <# Replies to this message will go to: > <# dx@netcom.com (dx) > > I hope you have a lot of friends to play this stuff for, because as anyone > > knows camp is only amusing when you have someone to share it with. > > The assumption that someone listens to the prepared piano treatements of > Ferrante & Teicher for camp value is rather a large jump, isn't it? I suspect > that much of the audience on this list sincerely enjoys the music that we > discuss, rather than the peacock value. > > -dx > With, sad as it may seem to you, Bert Kaempfert playing quietly for no one > but myself. It *is* sad. Music that you can enjoy on several different levels -- as wallpaper, as camp (i.e., laugh at), as humor (i.e., laugh *with*), as history, as music - -- can be enjoyed without having an audience to share it with. Anyway, Bert Kaempfert was a great writer, musician, etc., and I seriously doubt that he did his bouncy "Match Game" music without any intended humor. I too have my doubts about some of the stuff discussed here, but I think that means I don't get it. Yet. And I've been in that place so many times in the past. (Didn't like the Ramones in 1976 -- "too crude"!) I was playing some mid-period Nat King Cole for a post-New Wave rock musician in 1982, and his comment was "too many violins"! (And he, incidentally, claimed to have just bought a tape deck that was supposedly used to record "The Lonely Bull." Sheesh.) Bruce ______________________________________________________ | | | / | Tiki Publishing - -- -- | | | | http://www.tikipub.com | | / | Bruce Rhodewalt, Owner | | \ | 78-365 Highway 111, #241 | | | | | La Quinta, CA 92253 | | | \ | 619/342-3418 -- -- -- -- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mahoney@neographic.com (kerri mahoney) Subject: Re: The exploitation of cool music Date: 10 Jan 1996 17:16:28 -0400 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# mahoney@neographic.com (kerri mahoney) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >I have one, brief question: > >How long is it going to be before Tower and all the record labels push all >these reissues so much that annoying drama students and mallrats with tiny >black backpacks flock to their local record stores to buy this ultra-hip, >"totally alternative" stuff? > >If I see Esquivel being interviewed on MTV, I will probably move to >another part of the world. > >-Jeff Well my brother, it's a fact of life. I don't know where you're from, but exotica compilations are already apppearing all over the place in major commercial record store chains (NYC). Fashion magazines and trendy restaraunts and movie stars can show interest in any aesthetic and immediately it will be accepted . And then there's Quentin Tarantino, who by featuring music by Duane Eddy, Dick Dale and Al Green in Pulp Fiction has me hearing "Let's Stay Together" in every stinking bar I enter and surf music over cereal commercials . The media is saturated with it. Even the New York Times did a piece on it in last Sunday's paper. To get upset is useless, and a little ridicilous. If you really love the music you listen to, you'll just sit back and wait for the mad rush to be over and then carry on as usual. Most Certainly Kerri Mahoney also: lowridah@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: The exploitation of cool music Date: 10 Jan 1996 15:23:52 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Lazlo Nibble <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > How long is it going to be before Tower and all the record labels push all > these reissues so much that annoying drama students and mallrats with tiny > black backpacks flock to their local record stores to buy this ultra-hip, > "totally alternative" stuff? > > If I see Esquivel being interviewed on MTV, I will probably move to > another part of the world. I continue to feel that automatically reacting against something because it's suddenly trendy is just as silly as automatically *embracing* something because it's suddenly trendy -- in either case you're essentially handing the keys for your musical taste over to someone else. Whether or not I enjoy a particular album has little or nothing to do with whether or not anyone else does. I'm also uncomfortable with the notion that the only folks who are "allowed" to enjoy something are the people who had to struggle and fight to discover it. I love the thrill of finding something extremely cool and extremely cheap at a thrift store or a garage sale, but the thrill of enjoying the music is far more powerful and enduring than that, and it seems to me that the musical thrill comes through whether you listen to something on an old 78 you found in a sealed storage auction box or on a CD you picked up down at the mall on your lunch break. Shouldn't we (just?) be happy that more people are enjoying this wonderful music? - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Subject: Re: The exploitation of cool music Date: 10 Jan 1996 16:16:49 -0700 (PDT) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Jeff <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. On Wed, 10 Jan 1996, Bryan Stewart wrote: > That I don't have an answer to. I agree it would be a shame if it came > to that. > What do you think should be done? Is there a solution? > Bryan I don't know. There's really no way that we can make this kind of music accessible only to "us". Besides, that wouldn't really be fair, anyway. I actually have doubts that, since this kind of music (usually) has no vocals and doesn't revolve around stupid current social issues (i.e. Pearl Jam, Stoned Temple Pilots, etc), it will be too popular with the kids. Most "kids" don't like jazz; hopefully they'll stay away from this stuff for the same reasons. HOPEFULLY. If MTV can't force feed it to `Generation X', then nobody will go for it, anyway. - -Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sadin, Glenn" Subject: Huh? Date: 10 Jan 1996 16:42:17 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Sadin, Glenn" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. But I hope you have a lot of friends to play this stuff for, because as anyone knows camp is only amusing when you have someone to share it with. And if you don't, and you come home after a hard day, loosen your tie, mix yourself a dry martini from your bamboo tiki bar and plop down in your favorite easy chair and reach for the CD remote I sure hope it's not playing Ferrante & Teichers' jungle version of "Theme From A Summer Place". And if it is may God have pity on your soul. So, what's yer point? Glenn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sadin, Glenn" Subject: Re: Recent Topics Date: 10 Jan 1996 16:58:16 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Sadin, Glenn" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. When talking about legit bootlegs vs. profit bootlegs, I think it s kinda like pornography; you know it when you see it. Granted this is an imperfect argument and won t hold up in court (even though I m paraphrasing a federal judge!), but this is pretty obscure and/or archaic music we re discussing here, not currently working artists. I do believe that the people who unearth Exotica obscurities and bootleg them are not profiting, but are performing a service to the collectors and artists (as has been mentioned before). Jeez, I can t even find these boots, so how hard can they be pushing this stuff? I tend to agree with this. I am of the opinion that if the so-called bootlegger of out-of-print music is not claiming ownership (that is, not making a profit), than there is no moral argument. He's just performing a service, and God bless him or her for it! Still, if a bootlegger IS doing it for profit (as I would assume is usually the case), then I still say 1.) the artist is getting exposure that is otherwise unavailable, and 2.) the fans are getting ultrarare music at an affordable price. I would like to think that, in the case of these new twofer CDs, the manufacturer is doing it as an act of love, rather than for purely crass motives. Glenn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sadin, Glenn" Subject: Re: Recent Topics Date: 10 Jan 1996 16:58:17 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Sadin, Glenn" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. When talking about legit bootlegs vs. profit bootlegs, I think it s kinda like pornography; you know it when you see it. Granted this is an imperfect argument and won t hold up in court (even though I m paraphrasing a federal judge!), but this is pretty obscure and/or archaic music we re discussing here, not currently working artists. I do believe that the people who unearth Exotica obscurities and bootleg them are not profiting, but are performing a service to the collectors and artists (as has been mentioned before). Jeez, I can t even find these boots, so how hard can they be pushing this stuff? I tend to agree with this. I am of the opinion that if the so-called bootlegger of out-of-print music is not claiming ownership (that is, not making a profit), than there is no moral argument. He's just performing a service, and God bless him or her for it! Still, if a bootlegger IS doing it for profit (as I would assume is usually the case), then I still say 1.) the artist is getting exposure that is otherwise unavailable, and 2.) the fans are getting ultrarare music at an affordable price. I would like to think that, in the case of these new twofer CDs, the manufacturer is doing it as an act of love, rather than for purely crass motives. Glenn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cscheffy@kinglet.Berkeley.EDU (Clark Scheffy) Subject: to tie things up... Date: 10 Jan 1996 17:23:30 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# cscheffy@kinglet.Berkeley.EDU (Clark Scheffy) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Jeff wrote this in response to the line of discussion, "exploitation of cool.": I don't know. There's really no way that we can make this kind of music accessible only to "us". Besides, that wouldn't really be fair, anyway. I actually have doubts that, since this kind of music (usually) has no vocals and doesn't revolve around stupid current social issues (i.e. Pearl Jam, Stoned Temple Pilots, etc), it will be too popular with the kids. Most "kids" don't like jazz; hopefully they'll stay away from this stuff for the same reasons. (Me again) I agree with Mister Lazlo's earlier posting and also wanted to ask, "who are we?" Some of us do seem to be "in the industry," so to speak, and some others long time collectors, what have you. We are lucky, all, to be able to share opinions and information regarding exotica hopefully expand the knowledge and awareness of the genre(s). If anyone objects to its proliferation, the internet, wouldn't you say, is exactly the wrong place to talk about it... I imagine there are in the hundreds of subscribers to this list, many of whom are silent and interested and learning from the more knowledgeable - I have certainly made purchase decisions based on discussions here... And furthermore, oddly enough, since the bootlegs everyone talks about get no advertising beyond word of mouth, what fun it is that the exotica list puts the word out to hundreds of readers all of whom probably are the aforementioned "us" not only in terms of who is on the list, but also in terms of people whose interest is great enough to contribute and spend time on the topics presented herein. To opine further, at the cost of being lambasted, these are silly topics. You can err, *WE* can moralize all we want about the bootlegs, but the fact remains, they are out there and many of the albums are not in sufficient quantity. If I can get 2 $50 or more collector items on one CD at a price that is close to what two albums should cost, I'm going to. The only people who seem to know about the bootlegs anyway are people on this list. I don't here much from friends unless I tell them about, or play for them, the CD's. A friend of mine has a Philip K Dick first edition signed. The inscription reads as follows: "Some day this book will be worth 35 cents. your friend, Philip K Dick." The cover price for the book is 35 cents. Try finding any Dick book, first editions or not, for less than ten bucks... I was very happy when the new printings of his books came out at relatviely affordable prices so I could *read* them, not own some object containing fetishist historicity which is reserved for the rich. The bootlegs filled a niche that clearly the majors are slow to respond to, and that niche, was people already hungering for the chance to listen to the items issued. That's the apolitical truth of it. Alot of people would rather buy the Pearl Jam and Nirvana bootlegs at street prices of $35 and more. I'm rambling I know. Excuse me, I'll shut up. I just needed to share my free-associative impressions with this wonderful and simmering-down (I hope) list... C ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryan Matheson Subject: Re: Bootlegging, my two million dollars worth Date: 10 Jan 1996 17:00:59 -0800 (PST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Ryan Matheson <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. On Wed, 10 Jan 1996, dx wrote: > It's a > business, with bootleggers profiteering from the efforts of artists without > any compensation to those who actually produced the art in the first place. Yeah, yeah, the artist gets screwed. How is this different from a lot of legitimate labels? - --Ryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RALPHA6982@aol.com Subject: ED THRASHER- Where is he now? Date: 10 Jan 1996 20:24:25 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# RALPHA6982@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. That great art director for Reprise in the mid-60s, where is he now? And didn't he marry someone famous? He really inspired me & just curious if anyone knows anything about him. Thanks! Ralph Alfonso ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lee@anti.com Subject: Re[2]: Recent Topics Date: 10 Jan 1996 17:58:57 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lee@anti.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. My favorite bootlegs of 1995 Madonna "Sings Songs of Tura Satina at Mom's Place" The Beatles "Intakes" Vol. 3 Chuck Berry "The Bowl Sessions" Mrs. Miller & Yma Sumac "The unreleased rehearsal tapes for Hollywood Palace" Les Baxter & Bas Shiva "A tribute to the Jewish folk music of Ventura County" Pearl Jam "Spin the Round Flapjacks" Korla Pandit & Cal Tjader "Live impromptu jam at Fanasy's lunchroom" .....kidding.... Lee ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: "Sadin, Glenn" at INTERNET <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Sadin, Glenn" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. When talking about legit bootlegs vs. profit bootlegs, I think it s kinda like pornography; you know it when you see it. Granted this is an imperfect argument and won t hold up in court (even though I m paraphrasing a federal judge!), but this is pretty obscure and/or archaic music we re discussing here, not currently working artists. I do believe that the people who unearth Exotica obscurities and bootleg them are not profiting, but are performing a service to the collectors and artists (as has been mentioned before). Jeez, I can t even find these boots, so how hard can they be pushing this stuff? I tend to agree with this. I am of the opinion that if the so-called bootlegger of out-of-print music is not claiming ownership (that is, not making a profit), than there is no moral argument. He's just performing a service, and God bless him or her for it! Still, if a bootlegger IS doing it for profit (as I would assume is usually the case), then I still say 1.) the artist is getting exposure that is otherwise unavailable, and 2.) the fans are getting ultrarare music at an affordable price. I would like to think that, in the case of these new twofer CDs, the manufacturer is doing it as an act of love, rather than for purely crass motives. Glenn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimis@synergy.net Subject: Re: The exploitation of cool music Date: 10 Jan 1996 20:19:53 -0600 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# mimis@synergy.net <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >>How long is it going to be before Tower and all the record labels push all >>these reissues so much that annoying drama students and mallrats with tiny >>black backpacks flock to their local record stores to buy this ultra-hip, >>"totally alternative" stuff? >Well my brother, it's a fact of life. I don't know where you're from, but >exotica compilations are already apppearing all over the place in major >commercial record store chains (NYC). Fashion magazines and trendy >restaraunts and movie stars can show interest in any aesthetic and >immediately it will be accepted . And then there's Quentin Tarantino, who >by featuring music by Duane Eddy, Dick Dale and Al Green in Pulp Fiction >has me hearing "Let's Stay Together" in every stinking bar I enter and surf >music over cereal commercials . The media is saturated with it. Even the >New York Times did a piece on it in last Sunday's paper. > >To get upset is useless, and a little ridicilous. If you really love the >music you listen to, you'll just sit back and wait for the mad rush to be >over and then carry on as usual. > >Kerri Mahoney And not to labor the point, but "exploitation" of cool music, whether it be long-dormant catalog product or new artists angling for their 15-seconds of fame, is the name of the game in the music industry. I like thrift shopping as much as the next Exotican, but the main reason *I* got involved with the Lounge scene was to share my love of the aesthetic and hopefully *encourage* the kind of reissue programs we're begining to see now. God bless Rhino, DCC, Asphodel, Ryko, and the branch majors for digging our cultural heritage out of the vaults. I am now leaving my soapbox...thank you... / - ----- --- - Mimi Schneider mimis@synergy.net | The Roots of Lounge [|] http://www.expanse.com/ads/kiwr/rootsoflounge.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: Re[2]: Recent Topics Date: 10 Jan 1996 22:15:19 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "kevin king" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. My votes for best bootlegs of '95: The Fall - "Our Favourite Broadway Tunes, Look It Up" Whitney & Yoko - "Rabbit Man" Velvet Underground - "Weatherall remixes" Soundtracks - "Chris Elliot as Mame! (private issue)" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Freitas Subject: Re: "Recent Topics" Date: 10 Jan 1996 22:46:19 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Mark Freitas <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I've got a question. Are the RESearch compilations legit? It seems like it would be impossible to track down the correct parties in many cases. If they did, wow, amazing. If they didn't I'm not about to use nasty words about these folks, as some on here would apparently do. Bootlegs are a bit pricy and often of lesser quality, so generally only dedicated fans buy them. These are the same folks who buy everything by the artist they possibly can. While money is owed, the artist isn't really receiving any less money than they would have had the boot never appeared (I am speaking here only of the obscure boot market, not any of the more mainstream boot markets). And maybe they'll get rediscovered and manage to reap some sort of financial benefit as a result. At any rate copyright law gets even foggier out here on the net. What about all those album cover screen shots and song clips on the web? Fair use or copyright violation? Or free publicity for the major labels who are finally reissuing some of this stuff. Probably a little of each, right? How about a better target for people's grumpiness - the folks who scavange the used record bins, cleaning them out, to cash in on the fact that a lot of the records can be sold at absurd prices. Neither artist nor label gets a penny of this bounty, either. Recall the recent attempts of Garth Brooks (or some other pop country star, I forget who) to prevent his CD's from being sold in stores that sold used records. All this is legal, but I put it much lower on the morality scale than the small time bootlegger who, generally is doing a lot of work, for not that much profit, but wants to do it because he or she knows that *nobody* else will. mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Freitas Subject: Re: huh? Date: 10 Jan 1996 22:53:58 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Mark Freitas <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hmmm... I never saw F&T as being camp. I love putting on their prepared piano albums as good, interesting background music. While some of the music discussed here is funny in a camp way, the stuff I like best has always been really great music (at least in my opinion.) While there are a lot of weird covers, the best records have amazing *music.* But I will agree about the other half of your equation - 50 cents is still the right price! mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) Subject: Re: Recent Topics Date: 10 Jan 1996 23:00:17 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. RE: Bootlegging There's been a lot of bali bali here (as Freddie Blassie would say), but let's just face up to the facts: No matter how you slice it, the artist is fucked. If you buy from a used record dealer, at a reasonable rate or an inflated rate, the artist sees no money. If you buy a bootleg, the artist sees no money (all this talk about bootlegging for profit or not is nonsense : if you press CD's for a total cost of around $2.50 a piece and sell them between $15 and $30, someone is making a profit. No matter how altruistic their motive.) When a major reissues a record on CD, the artist is often charged for unrecouped monies from costs (studio/advances/publicity) that were made, say, MORE THAN 30 YEARS AGO!!!! Don't tell me that they didn't write that off already, then recharge them when an unpopular artist becomes popular. Then there's the practice of reissuing minus 2 tracks (as I discussed yesterday; go into any truckstop in the U.S. and count the songs on most of the cassettes they sell), which cuts publishing and gives a reduced mechanical royalty (because they're selling them as budget items). At least at thrift shops the money goes to charity (supposedly anyway). But not the artist. The music business is a business first. We should be thankful for the indie labels that'll at least take a chance on something (and in licensing, go through the often arduous process of tracking down masters and contracts), and without a gargantuan overhead be able to pay performers for their share of copies sold. And for the publishing administrators who keep 'em in check. br cleve - professional musician, record enthusiast ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: transmat@teleport.com Subject: Re: "Recent Topics" Date: 10 Jan 1996 22:18:51 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# transmat@teleport.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. ><# Replies to this message will go to: ><# Mark Freitas ><# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. ><# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > >I've got a question. Are the RESearch compilations legit? Sorry, I'm to LayZ to type in all the word >) But on the 1st RESearch comp, it says they have tried to track down all the artists, etc. But could not, and anyone with additional info blah blah blah should contact them. Hope this helps........ On another note...since there are some rekkid industry folks on this list..Howz about re-issuing some of this on Vinyl since I am getting on in years and am having problems reading the teeny tiny print on the CDz. Yes - please - some kind folks re-issued Esquivel on vinyl - howz about it Rhino, Ryko and u others!!!! tired fingerz.. richard _`~=~=~`boom~~`boom~=~= _-I-__\ /__ ` ~ / \_ -I- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: "Recent Topics" Date: 10 Jan 1996 23:58:15 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# LTepedino@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. In speaking for both Caroline and Asphodel, Yes sir theseREsearch releases are legit, the artists are getting paid and yes where masters were not available because they were lost or destroyed we had to resort to the vinyl. I just want point out your posting concerning wether these releases are legit is an example of the confusion that our friend the bootlegger is causing. Ashley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shkdwn@micron.net Subject: Mancini Date: 10 Jan 1996 22:14 MST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# shkdwn@micron.net <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hi all. Can anyone comment on Cinema Italiano? Sounds like it has some great tunes... Bob <----------The information went data way----------> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: Another major joins the trend... Date: 10 Jan 1996 22:47:50 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Lazlo Nibble <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > >On the Rhino front, got a copy of the sampler...very good sound..Volume One > > will definitely be the best with the cheesy vocal collection of Volume > > Three destined to be forgetable. > > what rhino cd's are you talking about here? i thought they had only one, > "cocktail mix vol.1" ? Volume 1 is the only one available so far (and that only direct from Rhino's mail-order division) but volumes 1, 2, and 3 are due in the shops later this month. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Norman Nithman Subject: New Exotic/Bizarre LP Art Web Page Date: 11 Jan 1996 01:32:04 -0600 (CST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Norman Nithman <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I threw up a few LP scans on my web site at http://www.tezcat.com/~nrn/lp_art/ I'll be putting up new scans as time goes on, but for starters, we've got several scans of 50 Guitars of Tommy Garrett, a couple of Music To ___ By LPs inline, and a few other oddities. Norm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: riviera@tiac.net Subject: Bootlegs:my two cents Date: 11 Jan 1996 04:11:12 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# riviera@tiac.net <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hello all... well, I swore I wouldn't get drawn into this discussion, but I'm surprised no-one has brought up the following issue : on a pragmatic level (i.e. the artist getting paid),what's the difference between a person buying a bootleg and buying the "legitimate" issue of a record for 25 cents at a yard sale? How many times has the artist(s) in question really benefitted from "our" appreciation and aquisition of their music?(Let me reiterate that I'm talking pragmatic, not moral,grounds here.) Relating this to another topic, doesn't the "exploitation" of swank sounds (i.e. ever-increasing commercial re-issues and attendant mass acceptance of same) mean,despite the possibly faddish nature of it's popularity, that the long suffering artists in question will receive some well-deserved royalties from the whole deal? Quizzically yours... Riviera ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: "Recent Topics" Date: 11 Jan 1996 00:29:40 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# LTepedino@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. In the case where REsearch was unable to contact the artists (as the record company is out of buisness or whatever) money is being keep in escrow should anyone call and claim rights on the performance and full royalty will be paid. All current rights owners are being paid and in all cases the publishing is being paid. Ashley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MEIXELLR@FLP.LIB.PA.US Subject: [none] Date: 10 Jan 1996 16:29:45 -0500 (EST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# MEIXELLR@FLP.LIB.PA.US <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > If I see Esquivel being interviewed on MTV, I will probably move to > another part of the world. I know it's hard to avoid feeling that way, but I think in the long run it's best to just like the music you like and try not to worry about whether it is too popular or not. I find that many of the underground bands I listened to, for instance, in the early 80's have not held up as well as some more commercial material that I frowned upon at the time. Since I listen mostly to Arabic pop music now, I figure I have at least five years before that becomes really popular in the U.S. Where are you going to go to avoid MTV? - --Rudy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lee@anti.com Subject: re: who are these guys DUH...what? Date: 10 Jan 1996 10:37:09 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lee@anti.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hey people, this message was supposed to be in refference to the thing about the RCA building burning down, not the "who are these guys" discussion. Sorry, I screwed up..guess I was paying too much attention to those Pearl Toejam bootlegs that are robbing deserving artists from their heroin. >Man, that sucks. Reminds me of when the amazing but unused piece of >LA deco arcetecture, The Pan Pacific, burned down a number of years >ago. More modern history lost forever (don't get me started on the >strip mall that sits on what used to be Goldstar Studios)! >Lee ______________________________ Reply Separator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Howard Subject: Huh? Date: 10 Jan 1996 12:56:49 EDT <# Replies to this message will go to: <# David Howard <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hmmm? I'm a little confused. I can certainly see the fun in rumaging through a dusty thrift store wading through the scratchy Poco and Captain and Tenille records in hopes of uncovering some hidden treasure. Ken Nordine absolutely. Martin Denny ok...Les Baxter maybe...Arthur Lyman I guess I can see it. But some of the dreck that people seem to be getting excited about is baffling. Hollyridge Strings? Ferrante &Teicher---c'mon! Dick Hyman, Montovani?!? This is some of the lamest stuff ever recorded. It sucked then and it still sucks now. Even more baffling is this stuff getting pressed onto CD's. Half of what made the best of this stuff cool in the first place was the outrageous cover art, and the other half was that the price of this stuff was rarely over 50 cents. But with CD's, the cover art is too small to enjoy and the price is twenty to thirty times what this stuff was going for before all these bozo-space-age-bachelor-pad-fetishizers came along. I was in a store recently and saw Esquivel records for $100. I'm sure buried under that price tag was another for 25 cents. But if people want to pay that price fine, mazel tov! If people want to buy the 40 CD box set of 101 strings more power to them. But I hope you have a lot of friends to play this stuff for, because as anyone knows camp is only amusing when you have someone to share it with. And if you don't, and you come home after a hard day, loosen your tie, mix yourself a dry martini from your bamboo tiki bar and plop down in your favorite easy chair and reach for the CD remote I sure hope it's not playing Ferrante & Teichers' jungle version of "Theme From A Summer Place". And if it is may God have pity on your soul. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lee@anti.com Subject: Re[2]: Bootlegging, my two million dollars worth Date: 10 Jan 1996 10:14:17 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lee@anti.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I don't live in a fantasy world, but you live in a closed closet. The kind of bootlegging I am referring to has nothing to do with some idiot with a micro cassette machine taping a Bruce Springspleen show. The kind of bootlegging referred to here covers things like compilations of impossibly rare records, and things like the Lex Baxter issues that haven't been in print since before my fianc‚e was born (or before you were hatched). And, I'll betcha that when the majors decide to ape a trend that was started on the 'street' and brought to the people via independent labels, those artists aren't going to make jellybeans off the reissues. Point in case; my pal Jeff who was the bass player of The Dead Boys didn't make anything off the Warner CD reissues of their two albums and...the original releases aren't even twenty years old yet! Bootlegging has contributed far more than you seem to realize. And we're not talkin' the Prince box set either. Lee Joseph PS: Remember that John Lennon used to send his 'secretary' to early Beatle conventions to pick up Beatles bootlegs cause he collected them! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: dx@netcom.com (dx) at INTERNET <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dx@netcom.com (dx) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > You, who do not take all into consideration on issues like this are > the Archie Bunkers of music. Don't make waves, accept what is handed > to you, don't question anyone or anything. You in my opinion are > boring and have no life. And you seem to live in a fantasy world where all bootleggers are altruistic heroes who are only interested in saving interesting music from obscurity. But it just isn't so. The bootleg world is a lot more than Deadheads or Beatle fanatic trading tapes (and now CDs) of otherwise unavailable music. It's a business, with bootleggers profiteering from the efforts of artists without any compensation to those who actually produced the art in the first place. Those who bootleg live concerts not only make a profit off of someone else's art, but they do so at the expense of the artist's decision as to whether the live concert experience is something they want canned and repeatable. - -dx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lee@anti.com Subject: RE: response to a message from B.Stewart Date: 10 Jan 1996 14:13:00 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lee@anti.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >You can sugercoat and bullshit your way through it all you want. I >will like nothing better than to see bootleggers locked-up in jail >where they belong. It is intellectual theft, plain and simple. >Nothing is gonna change that. >You have an opinion and it's yours, but that doesn't mean I gotta >agree with it or even respect it. I don't respect thieves. And this >IS theft, like it or not. If you don't like the way things are, then >I suggest you call your >local politician and justify it to him. >I have a life pal, you just don't know about it. It's none of your >business. Hey Brian (and all the other "suites" out there), Here is my opinion, again. I ain't sugarcoating NOTHING. Do you want me to LIST circumstances where bootlegs have helped both artist and fan? Why don't you lock up all the major labels who give thier artists nothing for the CD reissues they put out. That, sir, is a crime. Burying catalog, that sir is intellectual theft. The kind of bootlegging I'm reffering to has nothing to do with theivery, and all to do with preserving and spreading unknown and/or unavailable music to fans. I've even reissued an entire album of mostly unreleased material as a direct result of a band member who had no idea that anyone gave two youknowwhats about his 30 year old tapes, until he saw a song off his lone 1963 single on someone's CD surf comp that I had listed in my mail-order catalog. When he found out about the boot, he wasn't mad, he was really amazed and happy that anyone gave enough of a shit about his old stuff to boot it! At that point, he dug up old master tapes, photos and viola, we put together THE ESQUIRES "FLASHIN' RED" Lp/CD! In addition, this release excited his old band mates so much, they had a reunion party. Some of those guys haden't seen each other in over twenty years! Here is a copy of part of an email message sent directly from myself to "dx", in response to a private email he sent to me; >OK, I shouldn't be so hostile (I'm a big Don Rickles fan, sosueme!) >Regarding Les Baxter's boots, I doubt if he will see any money from Capitol if his stuff is reissued (I can find out by calling his daughter, in fact I will ask if he got any money from the license to Asphodel for the track on "ISM" vol. 2). I gave Les a $1000.00 (not much for a major label, but a lot for me) advance for the "Lost Episode" release. I seriously doubt that Capitol would do the same thing . However, I would rather see a fan be able to get his/her hands on cool music for like $15.00 than $75.00. It always happens this way; someone will get a record by an artist with deep catalog (boot, in a thrift store, etc) then, if they dig it, will spark enough interest for them to research the artist' career! LEE PS: In the words of The Standells" If you don't like this long-hair baby, get yourself a crew-cut". Oh, you apparantly already have the crew-cut. Your loss DUDE ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Bootlegging, my two million dollars worth Author: "Bryan Stewart" at INTERNET Date: 1/10/96 1:09 PM You can sugercoat and bullshit your way through it all you want. I will like nothing better than to see bootleggers locked-up in jail where they belong. It is intellectual theft, plain and simple. Nothing is gonna change that. You have an opinion and it's yours, but that doesn't mean I gotta agree with it or even respect it. I don't respect thieves. And this IS theft, like it or not. If you don't like the way things are, then I suggest you call your local politician and justify it to him. I have a life pal, you just don't know about it. It's none of your business. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Henk Rijks Subject: Lurkers delight Date: 11 Jan 1996 14:20:22 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Henk Rijks <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Since this list seems to be lurked by a growing number of record company buffs, why not give 'em what they want and start a thread with suggestions of material to re-issue? Our benefits would be that: a. more good, previously unavailable stuff will be re-released; b. by levelling the playing field they'll compete the hell out of each other to get the best gems; c. we will all be generously rewarded with lifetime free copies as a token of their gratitude . Henk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dx@netcom.com (dx) Subject: Record Price Catagories Date: 11 Jan 1996 06:07:54 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dx@netcom.com (dx) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Bro. Cleve (Professional Musician, Record Enthusiast)... > Then there's the practice of reissuing minus 2 tracks (as I > discussed yesterday; go into any truckstop in the U.S. and count the songs > on most of the cassettes they sell), which cuts publishing and gives a > reduced mechanical royalty (because they're selling them as budget items). I had a discussion with Capitol about this many years ago when they were issuing Beach Boys vinyl with 10 tracks. Their explanation was that by cutting the two songs they reduced their mechanical royalty payment sufficiently that they could offer the record at a budget price (I think it was $3.99 at the time). I asked why they didn't include the "extra" tracks, and bump the price to, say $4.49 or $4.99. They suggested that the next price catagory that record stores would slot the releases into was $5.98 or $6.98, which would be too high. Does anyone know why record marketers insist on having no prices between the budget and "full price" record? Seems kind of stoopid to me. - -dx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bill wynne" Subject: the "hot" topic Date: 11 Jan 1996 9:07:26 EST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "bill wynne" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I haven't been able to wade through the muck on this whole "bootleg" issue. But consider this: The primary concern seems to be that the artists and the composers see no revenue from the sale of bootlegged recordings. So, I ask you: How much money do the artists and composers receive when we're all frantically raiding the record bins at flea markets, swap meets, auctions, and thrift stores? One copy of a record might get sold and re-sold three or four times in its lifetime (i.e. before some jerk throws it away because he doesn't realize how badly WE all want it!). The artist and composers see the revenue ONCE - only once. Of course, the recent debate (perhaps you've read about it) concerns the used CD trade, with regard to the same $$$ concerns I cite above. But why shouldn't records be considered in this category as well? So, if you're one of those concerned with bootlegs and refuse to purchase them under any circumstances, but still you love those used records, urge your local thrift store owner to fairly divide the 50 cents you paid him among the financially injured parties: 2 cents to the composer of each song on the album (contact the Harry Fox Agency in NYC to determine how best to get the royalty payments to their rightful recipients); 10-15% for the original artists (or his or her estate); and 25-30% for the original label/distributor, without whom there would be no vinyl. And with the 9 cents the thirft store owner has left, his impending bankruptcy will slam the door on your record hunting fantasies forever. If you're one of those who supports the bootleg industry for any of the reasons you have sensibly and poignantly cited these past few days, if you agree with the calculations I've made above, then perhaps we can simply view purchasing bootlegs (no matter their production quality) as overpaying for a used record. Thanks for providing a forum where such important issues can be debated openly and honestly, and where no one takes offense at each others' opinions. Sincerely, Bill Wynne wwynne@ets.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "A.S.P." Subject: Martin Denny's Moog Exotica Date: 11 Jan 1996 06:31:46 -0800 (PST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "A.S.P." <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I was recently looking for this on usenet and someone responded saying there's a boot CD of it out. Anybody know where I can find it? I'd just as soon get the original, but it seems very hard to find. R> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: viktrola@usa.nai.net Subject: Re: Martin Denny's Moog Exotica Date: 11 Jan 1996 10:36:39 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# viktrola@usa.nai.net <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. ><# Replies to this message will go to: ><# "A.S.P." ><# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: viktrola@usa.nai.net Subject: Re: Record Price Catagories Date: 11 Jan 1996 10:43:33 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# viktrola@usa.nai.net <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >Does anyone know why record >marketers insist on having no prices between the budget and "full price" >record? Seems kind of stoopid to me. > >-dx actually, there was such a price point...the "mid price" cd of 13 or 14.98.= however, as companies got greedier and greedier and consumers continued to= pay full price, the mid price was given up. it is now almost solely the= realm of the independant label. basic problem as i ahve had it explained to me is that major labels have to= marketing, distriution, and a larger artist roster and catalog. therefore= they need more money to operate that an indie does. i do not agree with= this position ut see the logic. why, however, re-issue titles which have been gathering dust for 30 years at= full price makes less sense....except to cash in on the trend as quickly as= possible. this way...when mainstream consumers have moved on to whatever is= the next "hot thing", the laels have made their money and can then turn= these re-issues into budgget lines or cut them out entirely.=20 viktrola@nai,net http://www.chaoskitty.com=20 "where chaos and lounge meet the great bhuddah kitty" @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ chaos never died @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: "Recent Topics" Date: 11 Jan 1996 10:23:20 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Lazlo Nibble <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > In the case where REsearch was unable to contact the artists (as the > record company is out of buisness or whatever) money is being keep in > escrow should anyone call and claim rights on the performance and full > royalty will be paid. All current rights owners are being paid and in > all cases the publishing is being paid. But when all is said and done, this is still bootlegging. Copyright isn't just meant to make sure the copyright holder gets paid for the use of their intellectual proerty; it's meant to give the copyright holder control over who uses that intellectual property in the first place. If I were to start making copies of the latest Pearl Jam album and selling them over the net, it wouldn't be to my advantage in court later on to argue that I'd made sure the mechanicals were paid -- I still didn't have permission to copy the material in the first place. Please be aware that I'm not arguing against bootlegging in general or against the Re/Search CDs in particular; I just think that if there is music on the Re/Search discs that was used without the copyright holder's permission, it's inconsistent to decry bootlegs as "illegitimate" and simultaneously hold up the Re/Search discs as "legitimate". - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: "Recent Topics" Date: 11 Jan 1996 10:48:10 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Lazlo Nibble <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > Please be aware that I'm not arguing against bootlegging in general or > against the Re/Search CDs in particular; I just think that if there is > music on the Re/Search discs that was used without the copyright holder's > permission, it's inconsistent to decry bootlegs as "illegitimate" and > simultaneously hold up the Re/Search discs as "legitimate". Erik Gilbert has kindly reminded me that all the tracks on Volume 2 were properly licensed. I knew that and should have made it clearer in my message above -- sorry for any implied guilt-by-association, Erik. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric_Drysdale@kaplan.com (Eric Drysdale) Subject: Scott, Klezmer, Boots, Popularity,etc. Date: 11 Jan 1996 12:49:08 GMT <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Eric_Drysdale@kaplan.com (Eric Drysdale) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hi, I've recently been absolutely entranced by a record called "Freilach in Hi-Fi" and klezmer in general and wondering whether Raymond Scott was influenced by this music. The columbia CD mentions that his real name is... I forget... something Jewish-y anyway. Anyone know for sure if he's Jewish or what his connection to Klezmer is? To explore further, I went last night to the Knitting Factory here in NY to check out Don Byron, a Jazz musician who's put out a CD of Mickey Katz stuff, doing an evening of Raymond Scott and Klezmer favorites. I couldn't really raise my hand and ask him to lecture about the connection... but the show was great. His ensemble was excellent, and they played letter-perfect versions of "Powerhouse (twice)", "Penguin", "Carmen", "War Dance For Wooden Indian" and others. He stuck to the no-improv transcriptions, and swung very well. He also played "Sharon's Song" the very Klezmer tune by Sami Musica that helped me make the connection in the first place. Anyway, I'm still up in the air as to the direct connection, if there is, between Scott and Klezmer... anybody care to enlighten us? Is Mr. Chusid out there? I'm also kicking myself for not remembering the name of the artist who he compared to Scott, and played a song from. Kirby? Is that it? Anyone? My two cents on bootlegging: Well, booting obscure exotica is a bit different than booting Bigrockstar, for which the classic rationalization goes something like this: Most people picking up Bigrockstar boots have probably already paid for all of the legitimate releases, and most likely a bunch of legit imports with alternate versions, etc., for which the artist also recieves money. Fan has also dropped a bunch of money on Bigrockstar concerts, where he's able to buy officially licensed Bigrockstar T-shirts, neckties, keychains, and salad bowls. At this point, Fan has done everything within legal means to satisfy his hunger for Bigrockstar, and will turn to the boots. It's Bigtimerecords fault that they cant keep up with the Star-Trekish completist madness of Fan, and Bigrockstar is so hopped up on heroin and has so much money that he's not going to notice anyway. (I'm not wholly in agreement with this, but at least in this scenario, the artist gets as much money as he's provided for himself to come to him) With exotica, we're left with the choice between getting used 25 cent used records, for which the artist gets no additional money, or with a boot, for which the artist also gets nothing. Now, If we were really so concerned about this, wouldn't we find the Three Suns and mail them a check for, what, 50 cents for that copy of Movin' and Groovin' we found stuffed in a mattress? Exotica boots are just a pit stop between obscurity and legit reissues. Much of this stuff would never get re-released otherwise, and the only other way we would hear it is with the 25 cent used version, for which the artist also gets screwed. I don't see much of a difference except that in one version the artist knows who he's sold his soul to, and in the other he doesn't. I also hold the unpopular opinion that sampling should be free, or at least on the honor system, but that's a whole other can of worms. - -E P.S. as for the poplularity of Exotica... what's MTV? never heard of it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonny.S@eworld.com Subject: Sound Gallery Date: 11 Jan 1996 14:13:50 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Jonny.S@eworld.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I loved the Sound Gallery LP ( I got it on Vinyl) I use it a lot when I DJ. People are always coming up to me and asking "what the hell is that?!" I think Sound Gallery is a good example of the transition to a more psychedelic esthetic as well as the stylistic musical differences between England and the U.S.A. But primarily I think we have to make a distinction between pre and post psychedelic easy-listening and acknowledge the far reaching influence of the psychedelic esthetic and events of the time on the middle of the road Easy-Listening sounds. This can be heard on records of the late 60's and early 70's of Hugo Montenegro, Dick Hyman, Enoch Light for example. I'm finding these records generally much more exciting than the pre '67 cocktail fair. As well as some Boogaloo records from about '66 to '71. Tracks like Hit the Bongo by Tito Puente, Smoke Shop by the Lat-teens and Freak Off by Larry Harlow. My latest hunt is for The Easy Project on Vinyl. Best wishes, Love, Jonny Sender ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DaveL" Subject: Re: the "hot" topic Date: 11 Jan 1996 16:38:16 -0600 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "DaveL" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. "bill wynne" writes: > How much > money do the artists and composers receive when we're all frantically raiding > the record bins at flea markets, swap meets, auctions, and thrift stores? > One copy of a record might get sold and re-sold three or four times in its > lifetime (i.e. before some jerk throws it away because he doesn't realize how > badly WE all want it!). The artist and composers see the revenue ONCE - only > once. ..and what about used books? On the surface, it would seem that they might be subject to the same kind of scrutiny, but no one's mentioned them. (?) I have a feeling, though, that there's more at stake/different expectations for people who make music. Once again - (?) dave /\\ \\ \\ \\ / \\ \\ \\ \\ arouet records / \\ \\ \\ \\ ZING! ZING! -----------// // // //------> arouet@winternet.com \ // // // // \// // // // fnast! image ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MEIXELLR@FLP.LIB.PA.US Subject: MTV Date: 11 Jan 1996 13:49:59 -0500 (EST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# MEIXELLR@FLP.LIB.PA.US <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > How about...Not Watch it? Every TV has at least two buttons, one to change > the channel, and one to turn it off. I meant, where to go geographically to avoid it. Actually, I don't own a TV. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) Subject: Re: The exploitation of cool music Date: 11 Jan 1996 15:00:58 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. At 12:04 PM 1/10/96, Jeff wrote: >How long is it going to be before Tower and all the record labels push all >these reissues so much that annoying drama students and mallrats with tiny >black backpacks flock to their local record stores to buy this ultra-hip, >"totally alternative" stuff? On a similar note, the new issue of the Columbia Record Club mailer lists "History of Space Age Pop, Vol. 1) in the "Alternative" section. The BMG club, which also only offers Vol. 1, at least has it in "Easy Sounds" (or whatever they call that section). ____________________________________________ "Sanitarium? Alright. If you want me to go, I'll go." - Neely O'Hara, _Valley_of_the_Dolls_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) Subject: Re: Silver Apples question Date: 11 Jan 1996 15:01:05 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. At 11:48 AM 1/9/96, kevin king wrote: >> can anyone tell something about this new cd by Silver Apples "1968/CONTACT >> 1969" (MYSA014 or TRC 78737, Holland, 1995)? what kind of music is it? >> thanx! > > I would >think that it would only be classifiable as exotica, though, through >the use of make-shift instruments and electronica. From my dim but first-hand memory of that period, Silver Apples were a New York duo who were steeped in the contemporary electronic concert music of the time (Stockhausen, Ligeti, et al.) as well as the art-rock music of the day. They took themselves seriously as composers and only in retrospect would we call their electronic equipment "makeshift." In a similar vein, one of the first electronic LPs I bought back then (I was real young -- honest!) was a piece called "Time's Encomium" by Charles Wuorinen. I think it was on Vanguard or maybe a contemporary-classical arm of Vanguard. Is anyone familiar with the composer or this work? What I remember is the unusual sonic soundscape and how much it added to the antic pot parties of my freshman year of college. kjm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) Subject: Bootlegging, my $8.98 worth Date: 11 Jan 1996 15:01:12 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. There is no ethical distinction between purchasing a bootleg and purchasing a legitimate recording second-hand. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: Silver Apples question Date: 11 Jan 1996 19:34:38 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "kevin king" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > >> can anyone tell something about this new cd by Silver Apples "1968/CONTACT > >> 1969" (MYSA014 or TRC 78737, Holland, 1995)? what kind of music is it? > >> thanx! > > > > I would > >think that it would only be classifiable as exotica, though, through > >the use of make-shift instruments and electronica. > > From my dim but first-hand memory of that period, Silver Apples were a New > York duo who were steeped in the contemporary electronic concert music of > the time (Stockhausen, Ligeti, et al.) as well as the art-rock music of the > day. > > They took themselves seriously as composers and only in retrospect would we > call their electronic equipment "makeshift." Didn't mean that as a negative description, nor really as an accurate description of what instruments they were using (as I worded it :). I was trying to describe the sound, which to me is playfully experimental and amateurish (in a good sense). There's a classical electronic album I have by John Pfeiffer (Electronomusic) that sounds to me like similar instruments played much more deliberately. Maybe a better description of Silver Apples' music is garage tech? They sound to me much more like the art rock you mentioned than any classical I've heard. The difference between them and most other 70's art rock (which I like much, much less) is their playfulness - it sounds a bit thrown together, even if it was merely planned casualness. Exotica? You decide. kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) Subject: Re: Another major joins the trend... Date: 11 Jan 1996 15:56:55 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. At 10:47 PM 1/10/96, Lazlo Nibble wrote: >Volume 1 is the only one available so far (and that only direct from Rhino's >mail-order division) but volumes 1, 2, and 3 are due in the shops later >this month. Vols. 2 & 3 also available from Rhino mail order. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: the "hot" topic Date: 11 Jan 1996 20:54:40 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# LTepedino@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Bill, the bootleg issue is not just one of artists getting their share. From the perspective of anyone who is working for a label who would like to legally reissue titles in a proper remastered version with good liner notes etc are often stopped in their tracks by the guy who has been putting out the recent set of easy listening/exotica titles. Wouldn't you rather get a well put together CD package with pristine sound then have to pay a lot more money for a CD that's been pressed off a vinyl copy some guy may have picked up at a garage sale? That's the main objection I'm getting at. Ashley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: Scott, Klezmer, Boots, Popularity,etc. Date: 11 Jan 1996 21:12:48 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# LTepedino@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Let's not confuse the artist not getting royalties on a used record with an artist not getting royalties from a bootleg. Remember the artist was paid the first time around. A bootlegger is producing a NEW item for sale, not reselling the same physical product that the artist already got paid on. Ashley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik@top.monad.net Subject: Re: Record Price Catagories Date: 11 Jan 1996 23:11:28 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# erik@top.monad.net <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. At the risk of this turning into another major label bashfest (but, let's face it, sometimes they just ask for it, don't they...?) it's worth pointing out that many of Rhino's titles that had been priced at a very reasonable $11.98 list price when Rhino was distributed by Capitol, including the excellent "Blues Masters" series, suddenly became $15.98 list titles when Rhino signed its distribution deal with Atlantic. While no one can doubt that the deal has been mutually beneficial to both companies, it's illustrative of the way major labels operate. I run a record store and we're *still* getting in copies of formerly-$11.98 Rhino C.D.'s now at $15.98 that still have budget stickers on them. I feel like a real shmoe putting them out on the shelves at full list price with the old budget stickers still on them. --Jon Johnson erik@top.monad.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: asphodel@interport.net (Erik Gilbert) Subject: Incredibly Strange Music Volume 2 Date: 11 Jan 1996 12:46:45 +0000 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# asphodel@interport.net (Erik Gilbert) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Just to confirm that ALL the tracks on Incredibly Strange Music Volume 2 were directly licensed from the owners. And the publishing is being paid on all the tracks. We made the decision not to include tracks where we could not trace the rightful owners. Of course, I can only speak for Volume 2 as the licensing for Volume 1 was handled by the good folks at Caroline Records. Erik Gilbert Asphodel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "K. Schiele" Subject: How to aviod MTV Date: 11 Jan 1996 10:32:43 -0800 (PST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "K. Schiele" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Without intention of ruffling feathers, On Wed, 10 Jan 1996 MEIXELLR@FLP.LIB.PA.US wrote: > Where are you going to go to avoid MTV? How about...Not Watch it? Every TV has at least two buttons, one to change the channel, and one to turn it off. Ken S. PS - My $.02: I'd love to see an interview with Esquivel, no matter who the hell broadcast it. But someone will have to tape it for me, I don't have cable. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RPPeek@aol.com Subject: First MTV, now this ... Date: 11 Jan 1996 14:18:34 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# RPPeek@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. FYI, Billboard will cover "Lounge, Surf & Exotica" in its Feb. 10 issue. "Current releases will be included in editorial coverage, plus a label-by-label product guide to forthcoming releases." Preston ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lee@anti.com Subject: EXOTIC TRILOGY Date: 11 Jan 1996 16:00:20 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lee@anti.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. If anyone can pick up a copy of The Exotic Trilogy for me, I'll send the money OR trade some Bacchus/Dionysus stuff. I'd really like a copy of this CD and can't find it anywhere in LA. "Please hear my plea" Thanks, Lee Joseph ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: RE: response to a message from B.Stewart Date: 11 Jan 1996 10:29:13 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Lazlo Nibble <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Just a reminder: Please do not reply to or repost private email on the list unless you have permission from the original sender FIRST. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sadin, Glenn" Subject: Martin Denny's Moog Exotica Date: 11 Jan 1996 10:35:01 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Sadin, Glenn" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I was recently looking for this on usenet and someone responded saying there's a boot CD of it out. Anybody know where I can find it? I'd just as soon get the original, but it seems very hard to find. R> Man, do you have great timing, or what! Glenn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: Thunderbirds Date: 11 Jan 1996 20:42:55 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. someone mentioned a Thunderbirds CD here, and the only stuff of which i found a reference are these 2: MUSIC FROM TV SHOWS BY BARRY GRAY FAB 950923 C-SIL124 1292 CD (STINGRAY/JOE 90/THUNDERBIRDS CAPTAIN SCARLET) ROYAL PHILHARMONIC OR FAB THUNDERBIRDS 950119 T-FILMCD124 1193 CD VARIOUS POWER THEMES THUNDERBIRDS ETC 950119 T-CDSR022 0993 CD is anyone familiar with these? the first one seems to contain stuff from several tv shows for which barry gray wrote mysic... - -johan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: viktrola@usa.nai.net Subject: Recording project Date: 11 Jan 1996 13:37:08 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# viktrola@usa.nai.net <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I am currently beginning a project to document the various "advancements" in= recording techniques during the exotic perid. The introductioon of= stereophonic sound brought with it an avalanche of record label marketing= ploys. "Living Stereo", "Orthophonic sound", "3D Mono", and the like are= the fcus oof my research. Anyone wishin to help me can send info to: viktrola@nai.net Thanks in advance.... viktrola@nai,net http://www.chaoskitty.com=20 "where chaos and lounge meet the great bhuddah kitty" @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ chaos never died @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lee@anti.com Subject: Re[2]: "Recent Topics" Date: 11 Jan 1996 10:53:34 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lee@anti.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Ashley, Were the artist paid or where the licenses paid to the labels? ( I mentioned something about that in one of my tirades, regarding the Les Baxter track on ISM #2, and it might have come off sounding wrong). I assume they were paid to the labels BUT what happens to the money at that point? I was just wondering? Man, the lid to Pandora's Box won't go back on now! Lee ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: LTepedino@aol.com at INTERNET <# Replies to this message will go to: <# LTepedino@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. In speaking for both Caroline and Asphodel, Yes sir theseREsearch releases are legit, the artists are getting paid and yes where masters were not available because they were lost or destroyed we had to resort to the vinyl. I just want point out your posting concerning wether these releases are legit is an example of the confusion that our friend the bootlegger is causing. Ashley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lee@anti.com Subject: Re[2]: "Recent Topics" Date: 11 Jan 1996 10:49:32 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lee@anti.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Bravo to vinyl! (as long as it's mastered from analog tapes). In fact, here is a whole new can of worms for you all to think about. Why take a digital signal to go to an analog playback format? Did you know that (at least some of) the Del-Fi vinyl reissues were mastered from CDs? Icky Poo! Lee ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: transmat@teleport.com at INTERNET <# Replies to this message will go to: <# transmat@teleport.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. ><# Replies to this message will go to: ><# Mark Freitas ><# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. ><# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > >I've got a question. Are the RESearch compilations legit? Sorry, I'm to LayZ to type in all the word >) But on the 1st RESearch comp, it says they have tried to track down all the artists, etc. But could not, and anyone with additional info blah blah blah should contact them. Hope this helps........ On another note...since there are some rekkid industry folks on this list..Howz about re-issuing some of this on Vinyl since I am getting on in years and am having problems reading the teeny tiny print on the CDz. Yes - please - some kind folks re-issued Esquivel on vinyl - howz about it Rhino, Ryko and u others!!!! tired fingerz.. richard _`~=~=~`boom~~`boom~=~= _-I-__\ /__ ` ~ / \_ -I- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimis@synergy.net Subject: Re: "Recent Topics" Date: 11 Jan 1996 15:31:37 -0600 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# mimis@synergy.net <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. ><# Lazlo Nibble wrote: > >> Please be aware that I'm not arguing against bootlegging in general or >> against the Re/Search CDs in particular; I just think that if there is >> music on the Re/Search discs that was used without the copyright holder's >> permission, it's inconsistent to decry bootlegs as "illegitimate" and >> simultaneously hold up the Re/Search discs as "legitimate". > >Erik Gilbert has kindly reminded me that all the tracks on Volume 2 were >properly licensed. I knew that and should have made it clearer in my >message above -- sorry for any implied guilt-by-association, Erik. > I would like to point out that many mom & pop music retailers (who specialize in new and used vinyl and cater to serious collectors) are able to realize significantly higher profits on bootleg CDs simply because, like most contraband, the margins on boots are so much higher than on legit goods. Sales of bootlegs are what is keeping some of these stores in business. Is it fair to the artists? Is it morally "right?" No--but neither are many of the other financial practices of the music industry. Merchandise and live show gate are the ways *musicians* make any serious money in the biz, along with publishing if they are fortunate enough to have some hits. The sort of limited edition bootlegs aimed at the collector's market you've been discussing here are the least of an artist's worries. Some of this exotica product has been out of print so long and has been through so many changes of ownership that by the time one could figure out who the copyright holder truly is, the moment of interest in the material would have passed. / - ----- --- - Mimi Schneider mimis@synergy.net | The Roots of Lounge [|] http://www.expanse.com/ads/kiwr/rootsoflounge.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bill wynne" Subject: Better late than never... Date: 11 Jan 1996 13:12:31 EST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "bill wynne" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. The record auction/set sale that I announced in OCTOBER is finally HERE! It took a long time to clean, grade and price the first 200 records. But there is truly something for everybody on this list. If you're already on the mailing list for this sale, you probably received my earlier message today. I'm writing to the "exotica" mailing list, as well, in case anyone expressed an interest in this sale previously and has NOT received my earlier message today. That means I missed your name, so...WRITE ME AGAIN! I want you on my list! AND, if you're new to the "exotica" mailing list and don't know what the hell I'm talking about, I'm clearing out my precious vinyl collection. I'm out of room and I need the money. Interested? Look what's on the block: Martin Denny (30+ titles) Arthur Lyman (30+ titles) Esquivel Henry Mancini Les Baxter Ferrante and Teicher The Three Suns Enoch Light (and other Command and Project 3 label "gems") Tony Mottola (a dozen titles on Command and Project 3 featuring Enoch Light) Billy Mure, Al Caiola, George Barnes, Laurindo Almeida, Mundell Lowe, Jorgen Ingmann, Toots Thielemans and other guitaristes extraordinaires Allan Sherman, Stan Freberg, Rusty Warren, Smothers Brothers, Bob Newhart, Irving Taylor (the great comedians/parodists of their time) George Shearing, Joe Bushkin (lounge lizards r' us) Baja Marimba Band (marimba playing by Martin Denny band alum Julius Wechter) Buddy Morrow, Stan Kenton, Quincy Jones (the wall-of-sound big bands) Ping-pong stereo by no-name, budget label, misunderstood musical geniuses How to do hypnosis, How to belly dance, How to do striptease, How to throw a Bacardi party... WHAT THE HELL MORE DO YOU WANT? I'VE GOT IT ALL! No. It's not all mint. But they're not all $50 dollars, either! Why not take a peek? If you want to be on the list, send your e-mail address to "wwynne@ets.org" with a message that reads...well, I'll let you improvise on the message. If you're interested, you must send me your e-mail address. I will not clutter the "exotica" mailing list (and your mailboxes) with "junk mail." Bill Wynne wwynne@ets.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Stewart" Subject: The Exploitation of Cool Date: 11 Jan 1996 11:57:06 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Bryan Stewart" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I never implied that exotica music should only be accessible to 'us'. Jeff had raised a concern about MTV backpacking mall-rats suddenly discovering this music and the majors exploiting it. He raised the question, not me. All I asked is if this is such a big problem, what would he suggest be done about it. I certainly would not make it inaccessible for anyone (except bootleggers). Bryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bill wynne" Subject: re: the "hot" topic Date: 12 Jan 1996 8:59:36 EST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "bill wynne" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. In that sense, i.e. the quality issue concerning a number of bootlegs (some of which I have heard), you are absolutely correct. I suppose I was primarily addressing those individuals who are taking their stand against bootlegs based on an ethical code that I consider to be in some ways hypocritical. If one doesn't buy bootlegs because they were pressed from scratchy vinyl, who can argue? But to say that they won't buy bootlegs because of some concern for the artists and composers, yet continue to scrounge the used record bins, is a moral contradiction. Bill Wynne ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dx@netcom.com (dx) Subject: re: the "hot" topic Date: 12 Jan 1996 06:40:07 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dx@netcom.com (dx) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > But to say that they won't buy bootlegs > because of some concern for the artists and composers, yet continue to > scrounge the used record bins, is a moral contradiction. There is no moral contradition if your morality is based on the notion that physical property is the basic measure of our remunerative system for producers. That is, in the case of a used record, the artist is thought to have already been compensated for the physical object, which is being passed from one owner to another. In the case of bootlegs, a third party is creating a new physical object, for which the artist receives no compensation. In the case of a used record, the artist is compensated for a linear series of uses by different people, in the bootleg case, the artist is not being compensated for a parallel series of uses by different people. Whether or not one agrees that this is a fair meaure of compensation to the original artist is certainly open to interpretation, but to suggest that there is absolutely no distinction between buying used records and buying bootlegs is to ignore fairly obvious differences. - -dx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dx@netcom.com (dx) Subject: re: the "hot" topic Date: 12 Jan 1996 06:40:07 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dx@netcom.com (dx) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > But to say that they won't buy bootlegs > because of some concern for the artists and composers, yet continue to > scrounge the used record bins, is a moral contradiction. There is no moral contradition if your morality is based on the notion that physical property is the basic measure of our remunerative system for producers. That is, in the case of a used record, the artist is thought to have already been compensated for the physical object, which is being passed from one owner to another. In the case of bootlegs, a third party is creating a new physical object, for which the artist receives no compensation. In the case of a used record, the artist is compensated for a linear series of uses by different people, in the bootleg case, the artist is not being compensated for a parallel series of uses by different people. Whether or not one agrees that this is a fair meaure of compensation to the original artist is certainly open to interpretation, but to suggest that there is absolutely no distinction between buying used records and buying bootlegs is to ignore fairly obvious differences. - -dx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Lamont" Subject: Re: the "hot" topic Date: 12 Jan 1996 10:19:03 EDT <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Dave Lamont" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. "bill wynne" writes: > How much > money do the artists and composers receive when we're all frantically raiding > the record bins at flea markets, swap meets, auctions, and thrift stores? > One copy of a record might get sold and re-sold three or four times in its > lifetime (i.e. before some jerk throws it away because he doesn't realize how > badly WE all want it!). The artist and composers see the revenue ONCE - only > once. There is a fundamental difference between the resale of a legitimately purchased recore or book and the sale of a bootleg. In purchasing a record, the artist receives a royalty and the purchaser gets to use and enjoy the product as they see fit. If that includes selling it - fine, the artist has still received their due amount. No such transaction takes place with a bootleg. Read your software licenses. You are not prohibited from reselling software, just from duplicating it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Thunderbirds Date: 12 Jan 1996 10:24:07 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Lazlo Nibble <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > someone mentioned a Thunderbirds CD here, and the only stuff of which i > found a reference are these 2: > > MUSIC FROM TV SHOWS BY BARRY GRAY FAB 950923 C-SIL124 1292 CD > (STINGRAY/JOE 90/THUNDERBIRDS CAPTAIN SCARLET) > ROYAL PHILHARMONIC OR FAB THUNDERBIRDS 950119 T-FILMCD124 1193 CD > > VARIOUS POWER THEMES THUNDERBIRDS ETC 950119 T-CDSR022 0993 CD > > is anyone familiar with these? I have Power Themes (originally issued as Power Themes '90), which is an album of house-music covers of British genre TV-show themes (Thunderbirds, Joe 90, The Avengers, The Prisoner, etc.). I can provide more detailed information if anyone's interested -- it's an entertaining disc but I don't think it's what you're looking for. Along similar lines (i.e., contemporary reworkings of music and concepts from old Gerry Anderson shows) is Fuzzbox's song "International Rescue", which you can find on their easy-to-find-cheap CD Big Bang. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: the "hot" topic Date: 12 Jan 1996 10:37:54 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Lazlo Nibble <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > From the perspective of anyone who is working for a label who would like > to legally reissue titles in a proper remastered version with good liner > notes etc are often stopped in their tracks by the guy who has been > putting out the recent set of easy listening/exotica titles. Wouldn't > you rather get a well put together CD package with pristine sound then > have to pay a lot more money for a CD that's been pressed off a vinyl > copy some guy may have picked up at a garage sale? I always prefers legit reissues to bootlegs, but this is a real Catch-22 situation for the listener -- we had/have no reason to believe most of the recently-bootlegged exotica would ever have *been* reissued legitimately. One is then given the choice of either buying the bootleg during the short time it's available or never hearing the material at all. Speaking for myself, I'd rather live with the shame of buying the bootleg. Realistically, if a record company thinks the market for a given release is going to be saturated by a 1000- or 2000-copy bootleg pressing, the chances of them doing a legal issue of that release were nonexistant anyway. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: Scott, Klezmer, Boots, Popularity,etc. Date: 11 Jan 1996 14:27:01 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "kevin king" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > Well, booting obscure exotica is a bit different than booting Bigrockstar, I agree with everything you've said. It seems ridiculous to feel self-righteous boycotting bootlegs. If they're popular enough, I would think the majors would re-release them (are the Grammy's based on innovation and milestones, or sales figures?) Finding a truly ethically/politically correct way to purchase music is beyond me, I admit - music is such a commodity. Speaking of which... As to MTV, as awful as television generally is, the visual artist/pop culturist in me finds it irresistible to switch it on now and then. MTV's station I.D.'s are particularty wonderful (many done by recently unearthed animators) - but to the point... Esquivel's music has been used in a contest ad. It's mainly a couple of sound effects from SABPM that have been slowed, sped up and mixed. It's yummy and fits the visuals well. This maybe falls along the lines of your comment about sampling. Does anyone know of any contemporary bands besides Stereolab and Portishead and P5 who sample Exotica? This seems relevent in the context of this thread, but if it's too far of the list subject please ignore. kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sadin, Glenn" Subject: Re: Martin Denny's Moog Exotica Date: 12 Jan 1996 10:07:46 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Sadin, Glenn" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > Man, do you have great timing, or what! > > Glenn What? Because I'm willing to pay money for a boot? No! It just struck me as kinda humorous that amidst all this heated discussion about the ethics of purchasing bootlegs, that you should innocently ask if anybody knows where to purchase one! To be sure, in no way was I dissing you! Glenn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: re: the "hot" topic Date: 12 Jan 1996 13:14:25 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "kevin king" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. When someone re-sells a piece of furniture, a painting, a car, should some of the profits go to the designer/painter? I'm just addressing the eternal connection being made between original *object* and it's creator once the initial sale is made. Bootlegs are another story. And after thinking about the above analogies the issue seems even more complicated. But frankly, I'm happy to be able to hear rare music without paying inflated dealer prices, and will welcome the more pristine, official re-releases when and if the come. Until then, I'll get it as I can and leave the dilemma to the profiteers. kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: Re: Ferrante & Teicher Date: 12 Jan 1996 20:53:46 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. there's also only 1 prepared piano track on "Around the world with F & T" (UA LA681-G, USA, 1976), but a truly great one, it's called "African echoes" - -johan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: Re: Huh? Date: 12 Jan 1996 20:53:54 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. David Howard wrote: >...Ken Nordine absolutely. >Martin Denny of...Les Baxter maybe...Arthur Lyman I guess I can see it. But >some of the dreck that people seem to be getting excited about is baffling. >Hollyridge Strings? Ferrante &Teicher---c'mon! Dick Hyman, Montovani?!? This >is some of the lamest stuff ever recorded. It sucked then and it still sucks >now. Even more baffling is this stuff getting pressed onto CD's. from this posting i can only conclude that you've probably never heard a prepared piano album by ferrante & teicher, or a moog lp by dick hyman; the problem is that these guys also made what you call dreck, hence the confusion. i agree about mantovani though: that IS crap ...IMHO. and what cd's are you talking about? the rhino cocktail is great, so are the RCA SAP comps, and persuasive and provocative percussion, and Esquivel off course... "lame" would be the last word i'd use to describe HIM... but then, as the romans used to say "de gustibus et coloribus non disputandum!" - -johan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric_Drysdale@kaplan.com (Eric Drysdale) Subject: Exotica Sampling Date: 12 Jan 1996 13:09:57 GMT <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Eric_Drysdale@kaplan.com (Eric Drysdale) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >>Does anyone know of any contemporary bands besides Stereolab and >>Portishead and P5 who sample Exotica? Soul Coughing samples some Carl Stalling and Raymond Scott, I think... , if that counts... I've not heard the records, but I recognized some of these when I saw them live. Confirm? - -E ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonny.S@eworld.com Subject: Re: Exotica Sampling Date: 12 Jan 1996 13:13:12 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Jonny.S@eworld.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. A new band, Family of God. They'll have a double LP on vinyl out in a few weeks. Jonny Sender ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stefan.kery@mailbox.swipnet.se (STEFAN KERY) Subject: re: the "hot" topic Date: 13 Jan 1996 01:02:38 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# stefan.kery@mailbox.swipnet.se (STEFAN KERY) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Aloha Everybody. I run a record label here in Sweden, Xotic Mind/Subliminal Sounds. 7 months ago I wrote a letter to Sony requesting a licensing deal to put out Michel Magne & his Orchestra=B4s beautiful LP "Tropical Fantasy" on a 1000 copies= CD=20 reissue. Two days ago I finally got the reply were they stated:=20 We are not interested. I'm really happy to see that this LP was now booted on CD by some one in the= =20 USA. I'm missing the moving "bongo playing hands" window though.=20 Good luck to all you record collecting bootleggers who spread the rare stuff= =20 You're doing a wonderful job. =20 Stefan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Administrivia: Advertising Policy Date: 12 Jan 1996 19:53:55 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Lazlo Nibble <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. In response to some questions people have posed about my feelings towards advertising on these lists, I've added a short blurb on this issue to the list information file, as follows: * The list is not meant to be used as an advertising forum, though short notices of the form "I have for sale; please email me for a full list" are acceptable as long as the items for sale are directly relevant to the topic of the mailing list. We haven't really had any abuse of any of these lists for advertising purposes, it just seemed appropriate to let everyone know where I stand ahead of time. And of course I reserve the right to call a halt to any behavior I consider inapproriate, whether or not it seems "acceptable" by a letter-for-letter reading of the list info file. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: "Recent Topics" Date: 13 Jan 1996 00:21:53 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# LTepedino@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. n the contrary Mimi, Please understand that as a secondary party attempting to license material from the record companies who own the rights you have to provide a guarrantee of sales. For some of the titles that have been bootleged, sales of one to two thousand copies can seriously ruin the market for a proper reissue in terms of an indie being able to recoup their investment. Ashley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) Subject: Re: Scott, Klezmer, Boots, Popularity,etc. Date: 13 Jan 1996 00:39:03 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >This maybe falls along the lines of your comment about sampling. >Does anyone know of any contemporary bands besides Stereolab and >Portishead and P5 who sample Exotica? Check out Towa Tei's (x-Dee Lite) excellent "Future Listening" (Sony) br cleve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: "Recent Topics" Date: 13 Jan 1996 00:49:54 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# LTepedino@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. The money the labels get from licensing goes back to the artists. That's the way it should work and I have seen it in action. I just ran into an acting friend of mine on the subway who just received a residual check for the small part he had in a majpor studio produced movie, so this is very commonplace, and as I said early Martin Denny has no complaints regarding foyalties from the CD's that are out on the market currently. The larger the company the better the chance of getting paid - this is due to the fact that accounting departments of larger multi-national companies are very vigilient when it comes to keeping tracking payments and keeping their books correct. The most recent stories I have heard of artist non-payment come more from newer alternative rock bands not seeing any money from some less reputable independents. Ashley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: "Recent Topics" Date: 12 Jan 1996 10:15:58 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Lazlo Nibble <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > No this is not bootlegging because it appears that in the case where there > is neither an artist or record company still around you have a situation > where no copyright has been renewed precluding a situation of public domain. As far as I know (and feel free to correct me), none of the music we're talking about here is old enough to have fallen into the public domain. > And as you pointed out it is clearly stated in the CD booklet that should > the one or two artists who cannot be found do make contact the money is > there, ready and waiting for them. Again, the issue isn't one of making sure you've left the door open for people to get paid, it's one of making sure that you have permission before you make copies of someone else's copyrighted work. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Stewart" Subject: My apologies Date: 12 Jan 1996 15:43:40 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Bryan Stewart" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Lazlo correctly pointed out that I shouldn't directly e-mail people without their permission. I did send a couple of messages out this morning (1/12/96) like that. For breaking proper channels, I deeply apologize. I will no longer do this without permission. Bryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Subject: "Alternative" kids with Esquivel T-shirts Date: 12 Jan 1996 11:05:22 -0700 (PDT) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Jeff <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I'm not suggesting that this music shouldn't be accessible to everyone. All I really meant to do was say how disappointing it would be to see everything we've all hunted for for years in thrift shops and specialty stores suddenly reissued on CD in a marketing blitz aimed toward "Generation X". That's all. I think that everyone should hear this music, and be able to buy it. I just despise the way MTV convinces its viewers that they'll be "cool" or "alternative" if they'll only buy the latest thing they're plugging. I think too many people underestimate the influence MTV has on the 15-25 age group. Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) Subject: Billboard (Was Re: First MTV, now this ...) Date: 13 Jan 1996 02:28:26 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. At 2:18 PM 1/11/96, RPPeek@aol.com wrote: >FYI, Billboard will cover "Lounge, Surf & Exotica" in its Feb. 10 issue. > "Current releases will be included in editorial coverage, plus a >label-by-label product guide to forthcoming releases." Billboard did a cover feature on exotica last year around the same time. As I recall, the main thrust of the article was, It's not a trend till it can sell 100,000 units. (On the other hand, I've always appreciated the columnists and record reviewers of Billboard for championing unusual and uncommercial music.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) Subject: re: the "hot" topic Date: 13 Jan 1996 02:28:38 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. At 6:40 AM 1/12/96, dx wrote: >In the case of a used record, the artist is compensated for a linear series >of uses by different people, in the bootleg case, the artist is not being >compensated for a parallel series of uses by different people. You may believe that (and you may actually work for a record label, I don't know), but that point of view runs counter to the opinions of major US labels and music publishers, in my experience. If they could, labels would love to control each commercial transaction undertaken by a record in its long life. As it is, of course, publishers do license (with varying degrees of success) the environments in which their property is performed (including radio stations, restaurants and other commercial environments). Controlling copyright through the life of a record was one of the interesting proposals (along with the standard "home taping" and "buying promos" restrictions) put forward by a record industry watchdog group in the early 1980s. (Maybe at other times too -- that's when I was on a lot of record labels' mailing lists.) All this talk of shunning bootlegs of rare music in the name of fairness to the artists seems rather romantic to me. Having seen the inside of major recording companies (as the employee of a group with a major label recording contract and as a journalist) has led me to the conclusion that everything that happens within an artist's contract with a recording company benefits -- and profits -- the label much more than, and often to the exclusion of, the artist. My point of view, which may also seem romantic to some, is that bootlegging rare and otherwise unavailable music is a valuable service to the artists and the artists' fans. Opera aficionados worldwide (not to mention Deadheads) would certainly agree. Bootlegs actually _stimulate_ interest in the artist's catalog. For these reasons I find nothing objectionable to purchasing bootlegs. _Counterfeit_ recordings** are, of course, another kettle of fish entirely. Many of the posts I've been reading on this topic seem drawn directly from record label propaganda I've seen over the years. **That is, recordings that attempt to duplicate the appearance of a popular record which is otherwise currently commercially available. kjm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com Subject: Enough with the bootlegs (please) Date: 13 Jan 1996 12:20:59 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# HOUSEOBOB@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I don't want to suggest that the bootleg issue is not worth serious discussion, but it seems that this list has has become mostly a forum for this topic rather than the music itself. The postings on bootlegs seem to be outnumbering everything else.I wonder if anyone else feels the same and if people would agree to go back to the original subject. Once again I do not want to suggest that I think that the subject of bootlegs is not important and I hope that the people discussing it do not take this suggestion as an insult. I have found this list to be extremely enjoyable and enlightening so far . Sincerely, Bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: reesie@lairware.com (Helene McNeill) Subject: Esquivel, MTV, Gen X'ers, and Music (Glorious Music!) Date: 13 Jan 1996 10:34:09 -0700 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# reesie@lairware.com (Helene McNeill) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Greetings All, I just returned from MacWorld with a zillion messages waiting, but there were a few posts here that I just have to address. Some of you actually seem upset that Exotica, Lounge, Surf...etc...music is hitting the mainsteam. What is the problem? I say SPREAD THE WEALTH...I'd give everyone in the known world an Esquivel album if I could. It's marvelous music! Is the music anyless wonderful if we don't soil ourselves from fingering endless thrift store bins? NO! Is the music any less valid if John the Pear Jam Junkie tosses it on his boom box a few times a day? NO! Does the heart and soul of Enoch Light go up in flames because a few folks at MTV have finally realized that percussion is a Good Thing? Hell, NO! And as for "Gen X'ers" ...get off it! You don't have to be old to appreciate this stuff! You don't have to be young to hip! I thought all that 'kid' calling business was over when I kissed mah and pah good-bye and started paying my own mortgage. Don't hold the music hostage! Don't label my toe-tappin, hip-swingin, music-lovin ass! Helena ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dtaub@dewey.csun.edu (Daniel Taub) Subject: Bootlegs: Enough! Enough! Enough! Date: 13 Jan 1996 11:35:42 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dtaub@dewey.csun.edu (Daniel Taub) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I agree with Bob. Is this list about exotica music or a debate over the ethics of buying and selling bootlegs? It was interesting at first, but ENOUGH! Besides, it's become mind-numbingly repetitive anyhow. Daniel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert P. Krajewski" Subject: Re: Russ Meyer Soundtracks Date: 13 Jan 1996 18:23:45 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Robert P. Krajewski" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I've only seen it once, but the music for "Finders Keepers..." struck me as pretty cool. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert P. Krajewski" Subject: Re: Scott, Klezmer, Boots, Popularity,etc. Date: 13 Jan 1996 19:21:47 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Robert P. Krajewski" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >Does anyone know of any contemporary bands besides Stereolab and >Portishead and P5 who sample Exotica? I think Skylab (ambient techno) does... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ricardo Wang Subject: Re: the "hot" topic Date: 13 Jan 1996 18:25:07 -0800 (PST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Ricardo Wang <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. actually i'm pretty sure i'd rather have a scratchy vinyl copy for 50 cents, but a tape from a friend is nearly as good. - rwang On Thu, 11 Jan 1996 LTepedino@aol.com wrote: > <# Replies to this message will go to: > <# LTepedino@aol.com > <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. > <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > > Bill, the bootleg issue is not just one of artists getting their share. From > the perspective of anyone who is working for a label who would like to > legally reissue titles in a proper remastered version with good liner notes > etc are often stopped in their tracks by the guy who has been putting out the > recent set of easy listening/exotica titles. Wouldn't you rather get a well > put together CD package with pristine sound then have to pay a lot more money > for a CD that's been pressed off a vinyl copy some guy may have picked up at > a garage sale? That's the main objection I'm getting at. > Ashley > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: My apologies Date: 13 Jan 1996 22:48:40 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Lazlo Nibble <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > Lazlo correctly pointed out that I shouldn't directly e-mail people without > their permission. Actually this wasn't what I was pointing out -- the problem is with reposting other people's private email messages in public, which Bryan didn't do and therefore needs not apologize for. You don't need anyone's permission to send them private email, though it's impolite (and in fact can be legally considered harrassment) not to stop if they ask you to stop and its *definitely* impolite to use private email to send unsolicited advertisements. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: just talkin' Date: 13 Jan 1996 23:13:06 +0000 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >Sounds Orchestral "Cast your fate to the Wind" - any good? >I liked the cut on "Easy Project" & those string arrangements! :-) I don't know what you like. I'm SUPER saturated with all of this and have been for many, many years. What I think is OK was the highlight of someone else's month !!:)) Know what I mean ? So to answer your question, Yes!! Sounds Orchestral is good It's a flowing sound, some light latin, small light jazz combo w/ string arrangements with piano and or harpsicord (which I love) up front. It's good :)) >Tony Mottola "Warm Wild & Wonderful" (cool title!) sounds intriguing. >would you recommend? Not as Wild as I'd like it to be BUT Tony Mottola is Great !!!!!!!! with a Capitol G. After all. He is the guitarist in the Enoch Light Orchestra and on all of those records and hundreds more. He was even called "The greatest guitarist in America" >I think all of his records are worth getting and I would consider cutting >you a good deal if you take some more of them from me. I do, do that. As opposed to some other "record people" I was on a big Tony Mottola kick for a few years, a few years back. >Moreno Buendia Orch (crazy name, crazy guys!) "Spain goes Percussion" >is this any good? what sort of style? Phil, this has sold and I can't remember exactly. I do know that all of those types of records and there were many, are heavily percussive. Heavily ;) People were experimenting with recording on 35 MM film tape and other similar projects and it seemed that percussive sounds were the best way to go AND people dug it. They must have !! All the "enoch light/esquivel percussive sounds and the styles usually vary Mambo, cha cha, merengue, tango. Scratchers, boo bams, bongos, congas, drums, claves etc, etc, etc Really just like an enoch light record. Many different styles. Maybe,... I might post this letter to the exotica mailing list ? It's a good one :)) Without the business stuff of course. This was a period that followed the Big Band Era which was heavily dance oriented stuff. We were approaching the 60's and there were alot of things changing musically and the dance thing was a big part of it. >>>unless you can take Amex or Visa! >>I'm looking into that as well as e-cash ! > >sure would help us foreign folk No doubt. It will happen. Alot going on right now >>So do you like that sexploitation erotic exotica stuff ? Heavy breathing ? >>How about Sex Humor ? Songs of erotica ? > >not especially, I was interested in the "Touch" elpee as an oddity really. >Haven't heard it yet. > >I found the sixties MMO disc in a junk shop locally - excellent hunting grounds >for vinyl fabulosity I'm sure you'll agree! I was passing by this place the >other day & went in & asked the people in there, >"so, do you have any records" and they came back with that classic >line, "oh there's a cabinet full of old stuff out the back". ha! came away >with a few nice finds, nothing too rare but some cool bargains. >Tomorrow I may go over to the big Record Exhcnage the other side of town- >rainy Sunday afternoons are ideal times for hunting through dusty basements! >Hey I have my vinyl junkie problem under control, honest !!! wibble wibble >Mine became a business ;)) >> >>Mystic Moods >>>Other than that they're a mystery to me too. >> >>>Les Baxter theremin album but have heard lots about it. what's it like? >>>The original was presumably 2 x 10" albums? >> >>Correct. 2 10"lp's as well as 4 - 7" 45rpm records in a box was it ever given a UK release? I think almost everything that canme out of the US on major labels had overseas releases. An example of that is a friend of mine from the station. Eyore, the guy that designs my page, was just over in London where he scored A 1970 Britsh reissue release of Esquivel : Latin-Esque !! It's got a cover I've never seen on any big E record. It's this young pretty lady eating grapes. He's scanning it for my page even as we speak!! I'm so excited !! So Yes, I think alot of stuff was released and infinitely more rare over there than here. >I've not come across the 4 x 7" 45s format before, I wonder how common >that was. >and why it was released in both formats. Must be real hard to find now anyhow. Before 10" records came into existence AND the 33 1/3 rpm format, don't quote me and I think there were 45's. Not everyone had a 33 1/3 player. They had these little 45 players that they would just schlepp around and plug in, turn on, tune in and drop out. wait a second, I'm getting ahead of myself here ;) > >>The sound is true Easy Listening. Lots of Ooohhh type vcls, very light >>except actually for Music Out Of The Moon. >>This music, these records were designed to put you in "another world/place" >> >>For me, there is no time where I think the theremin is a womans voice. >>It is an electronic sound. It kind of soars along with the orchestra >>turned down. It is beautiful. > >a couple of years ago I saw on TV a documentary about Mr Theremin & his >life & invention. Lots of old footage, interviews with various luminaries >etc plus with the man himself aged about 92. I wonder >if it was a bought-in film, I can't recall the title. ANyhow it was real >interesting. Didn't tape it (drat) but if it's repeated I'll make sure to >do so. >did you catch it over there at all? Yes Phil !! I did. It was released on ORION in a ltd release. It's called Theremin : An Electronic Odyssey, or something like that. I just about cried. I saw Sam Hoffman play Someday My Prince Will Come, I think that was it. Lots of thinking going on here, I know Anyway, on the Mickey Mouse Club show. Incredible. A podiatrist from New Jersey. He hadn't dropped the Dr part of his name and quit his day job yet:)) > >Spotted theremin on the soundtrack of "the 5000 Fingers of Dr T" which was >on TV over Xmas. good film. I remember talking to Joe Holmes, the genius behind the Space Age Bachelor Pad Music Web Site about that. He bought it from this store in Oakland, California. I didn't know it had theremin ?! Great !! Something else to look for. I'm sure it will be a fortune The greatest science fiction sountrack of all time is on >>CD and that is The Day The Earth Stood Still (20 Century Fox) >>Composed/conducted by Bernard Herrmann with Theremin by Dr. Sam Hoffman, >>my man !! I recommend it highly, as high as you can get ;) >>How about black exploitation sounds ? Shaft, Shaft In Africa, Blacula... >>Yma Sumac ? Korla Pandit ? or are you just concentrating on Sounds of >>Crime right now ? > >well I like lots of different stuff >and yourself? where'd your main music tastes lie? I'd have to say 50's jazz, west coast. Space age pop, Jungle-y Exotica, wordless group vocals, electric pop/jazz/steel/fuzz etc guitars, guitars, guitars. I love sountracks too that are incidental music that are sounds of murder, mayhem and mystery like The Bad Seed In Cold Blood Action packed is great too like Stiletto The Silencers Lady In Cement as well as Nino Rota stuff and mondo italiano spy sounds are groovy too :)) 7 Golden Men The 10th Victim Just got Rota's score for Fellinis 8 1/2. Pretty swell indeed Records that sound like sountracks but are not. Kenyon Hopkins does that really well Kenyon Hopkins-Shock Music In Hi-Fi(stereo too) and his Nightmare LP that came out in 64 remind me of that type of sound I also really love stuff that sounds like cartoon music. Bernie Green's More Than You Can Stand is fantastic as well as Roger Erikson-Disney Meets The Wizard on Richmond Percussive Stereo series. Just sold one of those And then there is Esquivel's-Strings Aflame. Super animated/cartoon like sounds on that one. Andalusian Sky, Parade of the Wooden Soldiers. Juan plays harpsicor alot on that record and it works for me BIG !!! Outer Space Exotica ? Did I hear outer space exotica calling me. I think I did. Russ Garcia-Fantastica Jimmie Haskel-Countdown Harry Revel-Music From Out Of Space Bobby Christian-Space Age Suite Ferrante & Teicher-almost all of their early records Dick Hyman & Mary Mayo-Moon Gassssssssss Walter Schuman Voices w/ Music composed by Leith Stevens, Narrated by The Voice of Science Fiction Today, Paul Frees EXPLORING THE UNKNOWN RCA, 1955 right in the heart of the space age. Man alive!!!!!!!!!!!! What a letter. You don't see letters like this from aol, I'll tell you that right now ;) So I'm gonna post this and you'll see it again. Gotta go and get a life. Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) Subject: 3,000 Yen for the Pizzicato 5 Date: 14 Jan 1996 01:56:01 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I'm a moderate-to-fanatic follower of the Pizzicato 5. I have their two US full-length recordings and their first (of three) US CD EPs. Among the things I like about them (of interest to exotica/easy-listening fans) are their Burt Bachrach influences (on the newest US release, that's most apparent on "Fortune Cookie") and their Sandy Shaw-style drums-a-go-go. As has been mentioned on this list in the past, they have an extensive Japanese discography going back about 10 years and one of their first issues was called "Audrey Hepburn Complex" (I think). And then there's "Bossanova 2000." So I spent a good part of this afternoon at the Asahiya Bookstore in Yaohan Plaza in the Little Tokyo section of downtown L.A. (near 3rd and Alameda) drooling over the many P5 CDs there (as well as other equally striking pop combos whom I know nothing about). The CD "Couples" that's been mentioned here lately has evidently been reissued in Japan along with several other of their back catalogue, since three of the CDs on the racks there do not have their original artwork but a new, uniform design. The breathtaking thing about these import CDs were the prices, which ranged from =A52,700 to =A53,000. The currency chart on the wall indicated that tha= t range is something like $32 to $38 (US) per CD. If anybody has a line on a less expensive price for these CDs from a source with an equivalent selection, please let me know ====================================================================== ====================================================================== "Itsumade Mo 'Love and Peace'" ("Love and peace forever") Maki Nomiya, "Peace Music" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: Scott, Klezmer, Boots, Popularity,etc. Date: 14 Jan 1996 10:39:03 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# LTepedino@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Yep Skylab most certainly does. Ashley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: Esquivel, MTV, Gen X'ers, and Music (Glorious Music!) Date: 14 Jan 1996 10:47:36 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# LTepedino@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. You have brought up a good point. While I hate the bandwagon effect it does create a larger market for releases which otherwise might not warrant the numbers to release. And the people on this chat line who have been into this stuff for many years before will still be listening to this great stuff long after the johnny-come-latlies and the I'm-doing-this-because-I-heard-this-was-cool people have thankfully jumped to the next fad-for-the-masses that MTV will jump on (although they haven't had much luck trying to salvage Michael Jackson's career with all the Sony money and far too many Michael Jackson video weekends!) Ashley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoeBatutis@aol.com Subject: Godzilla soundtracks Date: 14 Jan 1996 11:56:57 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# JoeBatutis@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Tower Records here in NYC has started carrying Godzilla soundtracks. They go for an amazing $14.99. (considering that they're Japanese imports) Can anyone recommend one over the other? - -Joe B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Freitas Subject: Re: Exotica Sampling Date: 14 Jan 1996 17:30:38 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Mark Freitas <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Steroid Maximus (a.k.a. Jim Thirwell, a.k.a. Foetus, a.k.a Clint Ruin) is another person who samples exotica. Although, actually knowing the source it might not all be sampling. Coil samples a song off Denney's Afro-desia (Mumba?) on a song on the CTC collection entitles CORE (It's all Chris & Cosey w/ others). Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "C" Subject: Re: Exotica Sampling Date: 14 Jan 1996 16:56:39 -0600 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "C" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. As far as bands that sample Exotica ,lets not forget about Laika, Barry Adamson, and in the world of rap Dream Warriors(sampled Quiet Village) and I think De La Soul used a bunch of 60's lounge stuff. other tangential things: Skylab- this is formed by people from Water Melon who did a couple of Denny covers(also were members of the plastics?) Stereolab- correct me if I am wrong but they don't seen to actually sample so much as play in a similar style. Keep the bubbles flowing Chris /:::\/::::::\ /:::::::::::::\ * /:::::::::::::::\ * ********************* " Ho Ho Ho" \ "" "" / \ (@) (@) / \ J / -Santa Claus \ --- / \________/ / \ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow (via RadioMail) Subject: Exotica Top Ten List Date: 14 Jan 1996 15:47:58 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Brad Bigelow (via RadioMail) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I sent out a request two months ago for nominees for an exotica all-time ten best list. I got a fair number of responses, and have been remiss in compiling the results. Nearly everyone who sent in suggestions commented that it's nearly impossible to narrow the list down to just ten. I also noticed that while the list of nominated songs is long, there are consistent trends among virtually all respondents. So it occurred to me that there might be another way to tackle this challenge, which is to list the ten leading categories of exotica numbers, along with the most prominent representatives. So, without further ado, here is my proposed exotica top ten. These are not ranked in any order--to do that would detract from the individual merits of those listed: * The Juan Tizol/Duke Ellington Song --Caravan --Runners-up: Perdido, Mood Indigo * The Lecuona (Ernesto, Margarita) Song --Taboo --Runners-up: Jungle Drums, Malaguena, The Breeze and I, La Comparsa, Siboney * The Foreign Film Theme --The Third Man Theme --Runners-up: More (Theme from Mondo Cane), Never on Sunday, Anna * The Hawaiian Number --Hawaiian War Chant --Runners-up: Hawaiian Wedding Song, My Little Grass Shack * The Leroy Anderson Number --Blue Tango --Runners-up: Fiddle-Faddle, Plink, Plank, Plunk! * The Raymond Scott Number --Powerhouse --Runners-up: The Toy Trumpet, In an 18th Century Drawing Room * The Middle/Near Eastern Number --Misirlou --Runners-up: In a Persian Market, Hindustan, Song of India, Kashmiri Song, Istanbul, Baubles, Bangles, and Beads, Excerpts from Sheherazade, Prince Igor * The Jungle Number --Quiet Village --Runners-up: Moon of Manakoora, Pagan Love Song, Orchids in the Moonlight, Jungle Drums * The Fast Latin Number --Tico Tico --Runners-up: El Manisero (The Peanut Vendor), La Cumana, La Cucaracha, El Relicario, Baia, Carioca, Brazil * The Mancini Number --Peter Gunn --Runners-up: Moon River, Charade, Dreamsville, Pink Panther There are only a few nominees I couldn't fit into one of these categories: Harlem Nocturne, Jalousie, and Poinciana being the top three. I welcome any discussion the list stimulates. Brda Bigelow bbigelow@radiomail.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: Exotica Sampling Date: 14 Jan 1996 20:48:32 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "kevin king" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > Stereolab- correct me if I am wrong but they don't seen to actually sample so > much as play in a similar style. They have sampled quite a lot - Transient Random Noise Bursts With Announcements uses Perrey & Kingsley's Strangers In the Night, One Note Samba and The Savers. On Mars Audiac Quintet, they sample Lucia Pamela at the start of International Colouring Contest. Visual and verbal references are everywhere in the packaging and song titles. What does Laika sample? IMHO, that's one of the most incredible releases from last year. Is it at all obvious? There's nothing listed in the credits. kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Holmes <72241.731@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Exotica Top Ten List Date: 14 Jan 1996 19:53:56 EST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Joseph Holmes <72241.731@compuserve.com> <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >So, without further ado, here is my proposed exotica top ten. These are not >ranked in any order--to do that would detract from the individual merits of >those listed: Brad, brilliant list! I love the categories, and the batch of runners-up. Unless you have other plans, how about if everyone refines the list and we put it up as its own page at Space Age Bachelor Pad Music: "The Exotica Mailing List Top [Twenty?]" compiled by Brad Bigelow. The list should definitely be preserved. If you want to expand to top twenty, how about: The Prez Prado Song (Patricia, Cherry Pink...) Goofy Instrument Number (Leo Addeo - Stumbling, any Zounds What Sounds) All-Percussion Tune (D. Carroll - Hells Bells, Schory - Crocodile Crawl, Schory - That's A Plenty) Classical Ripoff (3 Suns - Danny's Inferno, Breuer - Samba Macabra, any Scherezade) Also -- where can we fit Delicado, if not as a winner, at least as a runner-up?? - -=-Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryan Matheson Subject: Re: Exotica Sampling Date: 14 Jan 1996 17:32:30 -0800 (PST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Ryan Matheson <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. On Sun, 14 Jan 1996, C wrote: > Stereolab- correct me if I am wrong but they don't seen to actually sample so > much as play in a similar style. > TRANSIENT RANDOM NOISE BURSTS WITH ANNOUNCEMENTS has a few Perrey and Kingsley samples on it, but just as between-song filler; the songs aren't structured around it. Also, "International Colouring Contest" samples the voice of Lucia Pamela, obviously. - --Ryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Stewart" Subject: Bootlegs, my last 1 cent Date: 15 Jan 1996 00:09:07 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Bryan Stewart" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. It seems that we have two camps that will not budge either way. A lot of you know the way I feel and that has not changed, regardless of altruism. It was good battle while it lasted. Now, on to the tunes! Bryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Stewart" Subject: Generation X and Enoch Light Date: 15 Jan 1996 00:27:28 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Bryan Stewart" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I don't think MTV or generation X, will in any way damage exotica. This special kind of music was around long before MTV and it will be around long after. So I try not to feel threatened by any of these 'commercial' developments. They aren't important. I want to thank everone for their suggestions regarding Provacative Percussion. I just bought it and I can't stop listening to it. Persuasive Percussion is next! If the generation Xers dig Enoch Light, great! All the power to them. Bryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Henk Rijks Subject: Re: response to a message from B.Stewart Date: 11 Jan 1996 14:35:11 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Henk Rijks <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. | Here is my opinion, again. I ain't sugarcoating NOTHING. Do you want | me to LIST circumstances where bootlegs have helped both artist and | fan? Here's a few of those: 1. The Beatles Probably the most 'legged band in the world. I'm not sure if they would have considered releasing Anthology if it wasn't for the steady flow of bootlegs already circulating. This way, the fans get what they asked for for years (and more) with decent liner notes, good sound quality, and the Threetles make another billion or so. 2. Greatfull Dead Allowing 3. Paul Westerbeg Bought a live boot myself, liked some of the stuff that he performed, went out and bought ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoeBatutis@aol.com Subject: Re: Exotica Top Ten List Date: 15 Jan 1996 09:54:22 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# JoeBatutis@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >Classical Ripoff (3 Suns - Danny's Inferno, Breuer - Samba Macabra, any >Scherezade) In this catagory it HAS to be all those versions of "Flight of the Bumblebee" - - Bumblbee Boogie! - - Joe B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Baldock Subject: Alan Moorhouse/F&T/other bits Date: 14 Jan 1996 15:41:53 +0000 (GMT) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Robert Baldock <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hi all - Just back from my regular Sunday car-boot foray - the first decent one of the year... Picked up: Alan Moorhouse and his Bond Street Brigade LP (1972) - this is the LP with "Funky Fever" which appears on the Sound Gallery LP. There's another nice Moorhouse original "Drum Diddley" on the other side and an over the top "Tea For Two" (tight tango rhythm interspersed with huge military massed band drum rolls!!!) - oh and they manage to make "Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep" sound like a funeral dirge! I also have an LP Moorhouse put out a year earlier ("Beatles, Bach and Bacharach go Bossa") which has an exquisite rendering of "Air on a G String" - one of my all time faves. What else... Oh, two Ferrante & Teicher LPs ("Golden Piano Hits" and "Golden Themes from Motion Pictures") which mostly fall into the "dreck" category but "Piano Hits" has some moments where a bit of humour is allowed in - especially on 'Misirlou'. Oh, and Telly Savalas' "Telly" - er... need I say anything about this! Reporting again soon! Robbie PS: Aren't you impressed I managed to avoid mentioning BOOTLEGS! Shit - and I was doing so well up to that point! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Exotica and "Gen. X" Date: 15 Jan 1996 10:13:47 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Lazlo Nibble <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > Believe it or not some of us young (24 y.o.) "Gen. X'ers" are capable of > appreciating exotica and lounge without having to have MTV to lead the way. Folks participating in this thread should keep in mind that a "Gen-X'er" created and maintains this mailing list. (Though if you call me that to my face, you'd better be prepared to duck. :-) - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: review: Max Roach: "M'Boom" CD Date: 15 Jan 1996 20:43:42 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. OOOOOO _____ I like this EXOTIC music ! :-D DETAILS: - ------- ......artist: Max Roach .......title: M'Boom ......origin: USA ........type: CD .......label: Sony/ Columbia/ Legacy 7464-57886-2 ........year: 1994 re-release of 1979 recording .......genre: percussion ....duration: 48:15 ..TRACK LIST: Onomatopoeia Twinkle toes Caravanserai Januar V The glorious monster Rumble in the jungle Morning/Midday Epistrophy Kujichaglia This is an album that would fit very nicely next to your "Persuasive Percussion", "Provocative Percussion", "The RCA History of space age pop" and Rhino's "Cocktail mix vol.1" CD's. It makes me also think just a little bit of Harry Partch, not because of the style of music, but because "M'Boom" is also nothing but percussion; Partch found a lot of his inspiration in Indonesia, while "M'Boom" has it's roots in jazz music. As the excellent liner notes to this CD tell you far better than I ever could what this music is all about, I've taken the liberty to quote from them: (CUT: this quote is rather long, and i didn't want to overload the newsletter, so i only posted it to the rec.music.reviews newsgroup) - -johan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonny.S@eworld.com Subject: Re: Godzilla soundtracks Date: 15 Jan 1996 11:26:31 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Jonny.S@eworld.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I got a Godzilla LP when I went to DJ in Japan around 1984. It's great but it's mostly monster sound FX of various members of the monster family and fueding relatives. There were also a few tracks of street scenes which include the sounds of trucks , machine guns, fleeing humans, electric cables snaping and what I think is a reporter commenting over short wave. ("Godzilla has entered Shinjuku prefecture and is heading towards Mothra! Fires are raging through out the area, the citizens are fleeing, run for your lives!!!") But in Japanese of course. On the whole, I would recomend owning at least one volume. You can put it on your answering machine if nothing else. Jonny Sender ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonny.S@eworld.com Subject: Re: Exotica and "Gen. X" Date: 15 Jan 1996 12:09:16 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Jonny.S@eworld.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I don't think age or Exotica are are really the issue. I think what I react to is the speed in which the underground now goes overground and becomes co-opted in the process for advertising a product by selling a life style. For example, I feel Hip-hop has really been diluted in the last few years by the major labels; jumping on the band wagon and trying to sign up every crew on the block that appears to be "Down wid ' it and represent wit da real" so to speak. Especially when a major can get a Hip-Hop album made for less than a tenth of the cost of your average Rock album. Cetainly there is a difference between Hip-hop and Exotica not the least of which is race and that the majors and advertising companys make a lot of there decisions based on race. I certainly find it offensive when I hear a piece of music that I hold near to my heart being used to sell a car or soap such as John Coltrain or Jimi Hendrix. More often than not its the Label not the artist's family that owns the right to the sound recording as is doing the licensing and reaping the profits. Once we start to hear the strains of Escovel, Hugo Montenegro and other easy listening favorites on Nike or Maybelene commercials I'm not sure we won't all feel a bit violated. Having had the music we hold near and dear ripped from us chewn up and digourged to a mass audience, most of whom don't really care one way or another. Its not there fault, there just watching TV. Once you start the process, inocent enough, of compelation re-releases its only a matter of time before we get... Radio shows, the book, the movie, the sit-com etc. "Escovel" staring Keanu Reeves and Sandra Bulock... coming... Spring '97... from Miramax ... Anyway... Blah, blah... Jonny Sender ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jpmckay@eos.ncsu.edu Subject: The Mass Marketing of Exotica Date: 15 Jan 1996 16:02:50 -0500 (EST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# jpmckay@eos.ncsu.edu <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Perhaps it is just me but I fail to understand the problem that everybody seems to have with the growing resurgence of exotica in the media. So what if Martin Denny is used someday to sell running shoes or Esquivel singles are given away with kids fun meals at McDonalds! If some 15 year old kid reads an article in Rolling Stone and runs out to buy an Esquivel CD then I'm glad. It doesn't diminish my enjoyment of the music one bit if other people are listening to it, in fact it greatly increases my chances of hearing it. When I hear Eddie Vedder compared to Jack Kerouac I don't get incensed at the comparisson, instead I am glad if it gets soemone to read Kerouac who ordinarily wouldn't. By the same token if hearing Arthur Lyman used as the background for an "alternative" rock radio station's voice over bits (and I have heard this) gets someone to listen to exotica then I am all for it. Is it no longer enough that we enjoy the music, must we control how others are allowed to hear it too? Something to think about. Ciao, Paul McKay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cscheffy@kinglet.Berkeley.EDU (Clark Scheffy) Subject: Exotcia and "Gen X" Date: 15 Jan 1996 13:23:05 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# cscheffy@kinglet.Berkeley.EDU (Clark Scheffy) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Jonny Sender wrote: Once we start to hear the strains of Escovel, Hugo Montenegro and other easy listening favorites on Nike or Maybelene commercials I'm not sure we won't all feel a bit violated. Having had the music we hold near and dear ripped from us chewn up and digourged to a mass audience, most of whom don't really care one way or another. Its not there fault, there just watching TV. Once you start the process, inocent enough, of compelation re-releases its only a matter of time before we get... Radio shows, the book, the movie, the sit-com etc. "Escovel" staring Keanu Reeves and Sandra Bulock... coming... Spring '97... from Miramax ... Reply: Oddly enough, a number of people on this list are working for, you guesseit, tvery folks who will co-opt and disgorge. Young, even hip, "gen x"ers are the very sort ad agencies, magazines, the media in general are trying to hire for the very reason that a career septugenarian media man is not going to have his finger on the latest trend. The way I figure it, if I was lucky enough to get any of the jobs I've applied for at magazines and other media, you can bet I would have found some way to write an article on exotica, etc., and so I wonder what exactly the problem is. If every magazine concerned itself with only trends of five or ten years ago - the not underground stuff, they wouldn't survive. You don't read much about Bon Jovi's latest, you don't watch "Still the Beaver" on TV. I'm not defending mindless drivel which cuts up and removes from proper context, the exotica, and then fits it to *evil* purposes, such as ruling the world. But, women in pants was once an "underground" topic. Thank goodness for cultural revolution, and more importantly, thank goodness for cultural discovery and a body of music that can be viewed with hindsight, to be so rich, and worth modern discussion. PS : I use the word "you" loosely, to mean more properly, "one." This is not personal. :) Clark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: asphodel@interport.net (Erik Gilbert) Subject: Re: The Mass Marketing of Exotica Date: 15 Jan 1996 17:34:56 +0000 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# asphodel@interport.net (Erik Gilbert) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Martin Denny's version of 'Quiet Village' was a #2 Billboard hit single in 1959, and Exotica was a #1 album. That's mass marketing for you. If this stuff can reach as many people in 1996, then somebody is doing something right. Erik ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow (via RadioMail) Subject: Records without Jackets Date: 15 Jan 1996 15:13:41 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Brad Bigelow (via RadioMail) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Just a personal testament to checking out records without dust jackets--I scored a copy of Martin Denny's "Quiet Village" for 25 cents at the local Salvation Army today because I took a tip from the recent thread and took the time to examine the disks without jackets. Brad Bigelow bbigelow@radiomail.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: The Mass Marketing of Exotica Date: 15 Jan 1996 18:46:32 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "kevin king" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > Perhaps it is just me but I fail to understand the problem that everybody > seems to have with the growing resurgence of exotica in the media. There's nothing wrong with increased popularity (it gives good reason for cd rereleases for one thing). The more enjoyment the better. The question I ask is really very simple and boils down to - why is it that so many people seem to suddenly like this stuff? I'm not saying that anyone doesn't deserve to hear it. Pop trends are cultural and are spurred on by *something* whether it be marketing, boredom, politics, and/or whatever. Even David Bowie has made mistakes trying to predict them. Although I never thought much of pacifiers and cribs, I understood there were motives behind THAT trend (should've tried that ecstasy). > Is it no longer enough that we enjoy the music, must we control how others are > allowed to hear it too? It's probably more of an over-analysis than a dictation, and not too dissimilar from characterizing the 90's before we reach the millenium. And now for some Georges Delerue.... Just got a multi soundtrack cd of his music and I absolutely ADORE it! Jules et Jim, Le Mepris, Hiroshima Mon Amour.. mmmmmm.... cheers, kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Stewart" Subject: The co-opting of exotica/why I'm here. Date: 15 Jan 1996 22:52:39 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Bryan Stewart" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I'm not sure how Clark Scheffy comes to the conclusion that a 'number' of people on this list are working for the very folks who will co-opt and disgorge exotica. I hope he's not talking about me. Just on a personal note, I don't work for MTV, Capitol/EMI or any other record company. In fact, I work in a field that is in no way related to anyone in entertainment business. That said and done, I still hope that the record companies do read this page a listen to what's being said. The reason I joined this list is beacuse I like the sounds. A while back, I had read the two volumes of RE-Search's "Incredibly Strange Music" and became facinated by what the folks in those two books were talking about. It's only been in the last couple of months that I have had access to the internet and discovered "The Exotica Page." That had nothing to do with MTV. I don't even watch MTV. If the music becomes popular, so what? I don't think it's ever gonna get as big as that AOR dribble like Michael Bolton, Miriah Carey or Whitney Houston. Jezzz.. gimmie a break! Bryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Stewart" Subject: Movie Soundtrack Listings Date: 15 Jan 1996 23:14:41 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Bryan Stewart" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I think movie soundtracks are an important source for exotica. Br Cleve informed me that there was a soundtrack guide published by West Point Books. Goldmine has it as an advertisement in their classifieds for movie soundtracks. Does anyone know about this book? Please let me know any information you have and I look forward to hearing from you. Bryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimis@synergy.net Subject: Re: The Mass Marketing of Exotica Date: 15 Jan 1996 21:21:50 -0600 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# mimis@synergy.net <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. ><# "kevin king" wrote: Pop trends are cultural >and are spurred on by *something* whether it be marketing, boredom, >politics, and/or whatever. Even David Bowie has made mistakes trying >to predict them. Although I never thought much of pacifiers and >cribs, I understood there were motives behind THAT trend (should've >tried that ecstasy). > The physics of popular culture: for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Early-'80's synth-pop begat late-'80's "folk" revival; early-'90's grunge (mono-dimentional wall 'o'feedback, heroin, flannel, power trios fronted by distraught blonde twentynothings) begat interest in Lounge culture (highly detailed arrangements/production, cocktails, dressing up, 4+ piece pop combos in matching outfits fronted by swanky crooners/chanteuse). Personally, I'm over 30 and my college pals and I in the backwards Midwest were having fun grooving on our parents' record collections and waving our copies of "Music, Martinis and Memories" at each other ten or twelve years ago. I say: welcome to the party, newcomers, and I hope you brought plenty of liquor and ice... / - ----- --- - Mimi Schneider mimis@synergy.net | The Roots of Lounge [|] http://www.expanse.com/ads/kiwr/rootsoflounge.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cbennet0@counsel.com (Caressa Bennet -- Atty-Caressa Bennett - Washington ) Subject: re: Mass Marketing E Date: 15 Jan 1996 22:35:08 EST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# cbennet0@counsel.com (Caressa Bennet -- Atty-Caressa Bennett - Washington ) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. To: exotica, Inet There's nothing wrong with increased popularity (it gives good > reason for cd rereleases for one thing). The more enjoyment the better. The question I ask is really very simple and boils down to - why is it that so many people seem to suddenly like this stuff? ====================================================================== In my view, the reason people seem to suddenly like this stuff is that they are actually getting a chance to hear it. If you're not (a) a vinyl junkie; (b) really into this stuff, or (c) at least 35, you've probably never heard this stuff until now. Think back to the first time you heard it. If you're like me, it hit you immediately how great it is. (In my case, it was listening to my parents' Enoch LIght records as a kid). Like anything else of quality, if there's enough exposure, some degree of popularity is bound to follow. Michael Bennet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: transmat@teleport.com Subject: Re: The Mass Marketing of Exotica Date: 15 Jan 1996 21:18:48 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# transmat@teleport.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. ><# Replies to this message will go to: ><# jpmckay@eos.ncsu.edu ><# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. ><# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > >Perhaps it is just me but I fail to understand the problem that everybody >seems to have with the growing resurgence of exotica in the media. So what >if Martin Denny is used someday to sell running shoes or Esquivel singles are >given away with kids fun meals at McDonalds! No way! They only had Toy Story stuff last week...:) >When I hear Eddie Vedder compared to Jack Kerouac I don't get incensed at the >comparisson, I do. Toe Jam is alt.complaint.rock not alt.beatnik >Is it no longer enough that we enjoy the music, must we control how others are >allowed to hear it too? > No disagreement with the above. I just wish those Jackie Gleason LPs didn't increase in price at tmy local used Record store last month after the owner switched them for the to the new bin called . regards richard _`~=~=~`boom~~`boom~=~= _-I-__\ /__ ` ~ / \_ -I- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David J. Strauss" Subject: Re: The Mass Marketing of Exotica Date: 15 Jan 1996 22:50:09 -0500 (EST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "David J. Strauss" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > Personally, I'm over 30 and my college pals and I in the backwards Midwest > were having fun grooving on our parents' record collections and waving our > copies of "Music, Martinis and Memories" at each other ten or twelve years > ago. I say: welcome to the party, newcomers, and I hope you brought plenty > of liquor and ice... Yes. This can't be said enough times: the whole Lounge Music movement started in the late 70s and early 80s; Throbbing Gristle and Jello Biafra were really into it, and it was one of the first Intellectual/Populist art movements based around ironic re-appreciation. Also, it tweaked the noses of a generation that still held power. Easy listening stations were still prevelant; senators still grooved to Montovani. As much as I enjoy this music (as MUSIC), it strikes me as pathetic when I see the kitsch results of it's recent popularity simply because the generation that spawned this music has inched into senility -- when you see a Donna Reed type in a t.v. ad, the ad is making fun of people that might have been legitimate targets 20 years ago, but are now marginalized. After all, Martin Denny is sublime; the real kitsch is Journey.Somehow RnR has managed to keep its patina of rebellion. This is something I will never understand. Also, any thoughts on the oft stated rumor that the RE/Search duo ripped the entire INCREDIBLY STRANGE MUSIC gig off of giddy Neo-Nazi Boyd Rice? They sure jumped on the bandwagon late (for San Franciscans, anyway). DS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cxws@musica.mcgill.ca Subject: Nothing New Date: 15 Jan 1996 21:21:32 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# cxws@musica.mcgill.ca <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I share with many of you the sense that the current revival is the latest (though admittedly one of the most intense) such revival in a long history of revivals following on from punk. Let's not forget Vic Godard's lounge stuff after he left punk band The Subway Sect; the cocktail revival in 1981-1982 in England, which had the New Musical Express printing martini recipes and sending everybody scouring thrift stores for Julie London albums; the Marie Wilson album and the Compact Organization label, which devoted itself to recreating the feel of mid 1960s spy films and Scandinavian swinger lifestyles; intermittent articles on Yma Sumac in hip music papers throughout the 1980s; the spy/private eye motif which has been fairly consistent through postpunk culture, even bits of bands like the Raybeats and the Monochrome Set, which, while not exotica by a long shit, play around with an idea of easy listening. ====================================================================== Will Straw Associate Professor, Graduate Program in Communications/ Director, The Centre for Research on Canadian Cultural Industries and Institutions 3465 rue Peel, Montreal, Quebec H3A 1W7 Phone: (514) 398 7667; Fax: (514) 398 4934 http://www.facl.mcgill.ca/gpc/crccii/crccii.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Baldock Subject: Died and Gone to Heaven Date: 15 Jan 1996 19:23:24 +0000 (GMT) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Robert Baldock <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Well today brings the final arrival of the "Persuasive Percussion" one-and-a-halfer CD reissue at my local record store... Unbelieveably good! I'm beginning to wonder if there's a limit to the number of phenomenally good but strange LPs/CDs from this time period... bliss! And later the same day (and somewhat cheaper!)... 101 Strings' "Million Seller Movie Themes - Latin Style"! I was a bit wary of getting a 101 Strings LP, but this actually quite nice - though the LP of theirs I really want to get my hands on is Astro Sounds. Robbie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keithd@netcom.com (Keith Doyle) Subject: Generation X/MTV Exotimedia Blitz Date: 15 Jan 1996 14:13:50 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# keithd@netcom.com (Keith Doyle) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >I'm not suggesting that this music shouldn't be accessible to everyone. >All I really meant to do was say how disappointing it would be to see >everything we've all hunted for for years in thrift shops and specialty >stores suddenly reissued on CD in a marketing blitz aimed toward >"Generation X". That's all. I think that everyone should hear this music, >and be able to buy it. I just despise the way MTV convinces its viewers >that they'll be "cool" or "alternative" if they'll only buy the latest >thing they're plugging. I think too many people underestimate the >influence MTV has on the 15-25 age group. > >Jeff I'm not automatically opposed to rereleases and "Generation X" marketing blitzes, but what I find disappointing is the tendency to treat the old releases similar to how television treats "classic TV commercials" where instead of just showing you the old commercials complete and in their original form, they insist on adding an inane MC to introduce them all, and only show you excerpts of them and then add modern video effects and dissolves which to me, destroys the whole feel. Part of the point of my interest in such things, is to "suspend disbelief" for a time, and by enjoying the music or commercials in their original form without any modern interventions, can better imagine what it was like to enjoy them for the first time, at least in my imagination of the context they were originally in. I'm afraid MTV would try to "update" Exotica to the point that it would ruin it. A year from now we may be reentering the same old argument that occurred with the term "Industrial" claiming that Real(TM) Exotica is original Martin Denny - oh no it's not, it's really the latest angst-Exotica, and when you go to the Exotica section at Tower, all you find is Nine-Inch-Nails "Exotica" albums. And in music, this sort of "Classic Commercials" re-release distortion is usually done through "compilation" albums, or "best of" albums, where someone else decides which are the best examples of the genre on a particular original. I've found quite often that my favorite piece on a record is an obscure one which does not appear on the equivalent compliation or "best of." Currently the biggest "Exotica/EZ-Listening /Cocktail" offender I've noticed in this regard is the current Jackie Gleason CD releases. At first, I was seeing (and buying) complete original albums, such as "Music, Martinis, and Memories" and I found a double package of original albums (Music to make you Misty and Night Wind, I think), but now all I see are "best of" compilations, when I'd like to buy Oooo... and Lonesome Echo and a bunch of his others in their original form on CD. And of course now, gone are those great two-album package deals where you could get two original albums in there entirety on a CD. Now that Exotica has taken off, they can make twice as much if they re-release them seperately. Well, Ok, but if they're not complete in their original form with the original cover artwork, I'll just make tapes of my thrift scores. You can stuff the comp albums as far as I'm concerned. I suppose it would be different if I haven't already been into this genre for the last 10-15 years via the thrift store route, and am already familiar with a lot of it. If I was new to it, perhaps a compilation or two would help me decide what I like and what I don't, but even then if I couldn't find complete original releases of what I liked so that I can buy more of it, it would be darn frustrating. At any rate, enough. Here's my list of the albums that ought to be considered for re-release: Music out of the Moon (Les Baxter) this is the great EZ-listening theremin album that was used briefly in the Theremin movie. A truly unique album deserving attention. (actually two 7 inchers in an early "twofer" package). More Jackie Gleason (lots more, he has dozens of albums, and they're all good) Les Baxter (I hear there's some in the works) - particularly Tamboo and Sacred Idol in their original form, but the others as well. Bob Thompson (his orchestra and chorus?). There's an example or two on one of the comps, I've noticed. Great stuff, roughly a cross between Ray Conniff and Esquivel. I noticed there are a couple of his on one of the comps. Milt Buckner - I've only seen one of his albums but it is one of my favorites, the cover has a sultry gal smoking a cigarette, I forget the name of it at the moment. Frankie Stein and his Ghouls - this is actually surf instrumental, with "monster sounds" but it's great stuff (Shock, Terror, Fear!). I've also discovered a "discotheque" album by the same musicians under the name of Busby Lewis which has some of the exact same tunes but without the "monster sounds." Stanley Black "Tropical Moonlight" - I've found that not all of Stanley Black is as good IMHO, but "Tropical Moonlight" is great, and my thrift store copy is pretty scratchy. George Shearing - all the "Satin" albums, at least. I did buy a Black Satin/White Satin twofer CD a while ago, don't know if it's still available. And I'm sure there's plenty others, that's just off the top of my head. Keith Doyle keithd@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RALPHA6982@aol.com Subject: RMI-Rock-Si-Chord! Wow Date: 16 Jan 1996 05:29:12 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# RALPHA6982@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Just picked up a wild Impulse lp by Steve Allen & Oliver Nelson called Soulful Brass. Mid-60s 'hip' covers stuff that's great but I was more impressed by this interesting electronic keyboard Steve Allen is playing called the RMI-Rock-Si-Chord which has a really cool melodic sound. Any other recordings out there that feature this instrument? From the picture, it looks like a Wurlitzer/Acetone kind of thing. Also- cool threads are worn by both cats on the cover. Steve especially in ascot and shocking pink sweater. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) Subject: Re: The Mass Marketing of Exotica Date: 16 Jan 1996 01:55:26 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >The question I ask is really very simple and boils down to - why >is it that so many people seem to suddenly like this stuff? Simple, because they're finally hearing it. All of us who have been into this music for awhile can undoubedly remember when we first heard it and thought - wow, this is unbelievable! And then you're hooked, digging deeper and deeper, taking chances on records that look like they might be genius, going further in and learning more. But to know about this stuff, you had to be exposed to it - either you were the thrift store/flea market type, or the used record store type, or into the underbelly culture (psychotronic films, girlie mags, lurid paperbacks etc, and/or the 'industrial' thread through Throbbing Gristle etc), - or, of course, all of the above ( or in a combo platter, perhaps). And yeah, the covers sure were great. But this music is so great, it just takes a hold of you. It doesn't matter what your age, gender, backgound, etc (unless you're of the one group that doesn't like it, and I've met a lot of these - the type that says "This is our parents music, this is what we rebelled against. It's schlock!" To those people I say, get your attitude out of your ears.) Now with CD reissues (the mass populace doesn't have turntables, because they were told/sold that they were out of date) people are hearing this stuff fresh, and falling in love with it. And really, are we any different just because we've been listening a little longer? br cleve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoeBatutis@aol.com Subject: Godzilla soundtracks Date: 16 Jan 1996 08:44:39 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# JoeBatutis@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >I got a Godzilla LP when I went to DJ in Japan around 1984. It's great but >it's mostly monster sound FX of various members of the monster family and >fueding relatives. That's exactly what I was hoping to find on these releases, but they are hopelessly devoid of all but a few sound effects. (what, no monster roars!? Sounds of tanks crunching underfoot!?) - - Joe B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dx@netcom.com (dx) Subject: Re/Search & Boyd Rice Date: 16 Jan 1996 05:54:40 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dx@netcom.com (dx) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > Also, any thoughts on the oft stated rumor that the RE/Search duo ripped > the entire INCREDIBLY STRANGE MUSIC gig off of giddy Neo-Nazi Boyd Rice? > They sure jumped on the bandwagon late (for San Franciscans, anyway). I don't think I'd say they ripped it off from Boyd, but he was certainly involved with the concept before the books came out. I was in contact with Boyd and Re/Search around the time that the film book came out, and hosted Boyd, Jim and the Re/Search editors on my radio show a couple of times to talk about the book and play obscure movie music they had. Around that time they were already planning out the Incredibly Strange Music books. I had tentatively agreed to write a few chapters for them, but in the "breakup" between Re/Search and Boyd, I was mostly lost in the shuffle. I talked to Boyd a few times after that, and he seemed to be thinking of puting together his own strange music book (this was before the first of the two Re/Search books came out), but it seems nothing came of it. I couldn't say whether Boyd had the idea first, before I hooked up with any of them - but by the time I was in contact, it was a shared proposal. As for jumping on the badwagon late - they were planning this out around '86 or '87, I think. - -dx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dx@netcom.com (dx) Subject: Re: The Mass Marketing of Exotica Date: 16 Jan 1996 06:05:40 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dx@netcom.com (dx) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > And really, are we any different just because > we've been listening a little longer? If it were just the length of time we'd been listening to this music, then I'd suggest, no, there was no difference. But that isn't the only distinction. The difference - perhaps unimportant - is that some of us went out and discovered this music in a more raw form, rather than buying it in nicely packaged reissues. There is a difference in aesthetic between sifting through junk shops and thrift shops, picking up things based on a personal sense of style created over years of overexposure to all things pop culture, and latching onto a scene of style through someone else's condensation of the aesthetic in, for example, a book. I'm not suggesting that anyone is any more true to or appreciatative of the art, and everyone certainly brings their own twist to the listening... but neither would I suggest that there is no fundamental difference between those who write the books and those who read them. - -dx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paco Ojeda_Gonzalez" Subject: Exotica Dress Code Date: 16 Jan 1996 09:24:28 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Paco Ojeda_Gonzalez" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Mail*Link(r) SMTP Exotica Dress Code Henk Rijks recently contributed this: > MTV Europe last week organised a huge Exotica-oriented > party in The Hague, the Netherlands. Dress code was > strictly Cocktail... Now, this makes me wonder, plain and simple: what is "cocktail" (or "Exotica") dress code? Any takers? Another question that pops up is this: we are experiencing Exotica as an aural thing (recordings, CD's, etc.), right? And we've come to associate the Exotica "sound" or style with certain soundtracks (Mancini et al...) or musical styles often found on TV shows of the 60's and 70's (Batman, UFO, etc.). right? Now, these movies/shows' subject matter or plot was NOT necessarily related to any specific lifestyle that can be identified as "cocktail" or "Exotica." With that said, are there any films whose subject-matter deal with "cocktail" or Exotica as a lifestyle? I mean, John Water's "Hairspray" is a perfect example of a film that not only has period music, but the plot deals (segregation aside) entirely with the lifestyle associated with the music. Any thoughts anyone? Paco Ojeda Boston, MA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mahoney@neographic.com (kerri mahoney) Subject: les baxter Date: 16 Jan 1996 10:35:51 -0400 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# mahoney@neographic.com (kerri mahoney) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. My friend heard yesterday on the radio (WFMU) that Les Baxter died. Not knowing the state of Les Baxter, is this true? Or had he already passed away? (snif) kerri mahoney also: lowridah@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow (via RadioMail) Subject: Re: Mass Marketing of Exotica Date: 16 Jan 1996 08:42:52 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Brad Bigelow (via RadioMail) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. <# dx@netcom.com (dx) wrote: >There is a difference in aesthetic between sifting >through junk shops and thrift shops, picking up things based on a personal >sense of style created over years of overexposure to all things pop culture, >and latching onto a scene of style through someone else's condensation of >the aesthetic in, for example, a book. I think this is at the heart of the debate over marketing/exposure/reissues/ MTV-ization of exotica in recent threads. It IS an aesthetic difference, but it's a mistake to assign a higer or lower value to either experience on anything but a personal level. I love exotica, but I prefer to appreciate it based on sifting through thrift shops and operating under an arbitrary limit of $5 an LP or less (unless I REALLY need it, man). So I've avoided the compilations and bootlegs. Part of my aesthetic experience is based on the fact that I CAN find good things to listen to for as little as 25 cents at the local Salvation Army. That's my choice, nothing more. I also love surf, and in years of thrift shopping, I have yet to see an original surf LP. This stuff long since disappeared into the realms of high-priced collectors. So I buy the CD compilations and reissues. The packaging and hunting are not particularly important elements of my enjoyment of surf music. The packaging, hunting, and overall funkiness of original junk exotica are definitely part of my enjoyment. I'm surprised no one has pointed out that the conoisseurs of ur-exotica would argue that exotica can only be experienced when purchased for $2.98 as a new release in the LP section of a furniture store and listened to on some console hi-fi system. Even us thrift-shop veterans are partaking of this stuff second-hand for the most part. I do hope it'll be long time before exotica disappears from the thrift shelves, since what's left appears to be evenly divided between mediocre 70s disco and Andy Williams records. But that time will come--we are talking about a finite comodity, after all. And if I'm still into exotica when that happens, I'll probably switch to CDs or their successor. The experience will change, of course--CD notes rarely match the visual appeal of a great dust jacket-- but the enjoyment at the core will not. From whatever direction we start, I think we all ultimately converge on this point: enjoyment. I may not know exotica, but I know what I like. Brad Bigelow ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: Exotica Dress Code Date: 16 Jan 1996 12:12:55 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "kevin king" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >are there any films whose subject-matter deal with "cocktail" > or Exotica as a lifestyle? Was it Blake Edwards who did "The Party"? Others that come to mind are "Bob, Carol, Ted & Alice," all the Bondish spy movies plus the spoofs, "Breakfast At Tiffany's," there's got to be tons more (these are just a few that also have exotica/cocktail soundtracks). kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KRIS@MOM.SPIE.ORG Subject: Re: Exotica Dress Code as dictated by film. Date: 16 Jan 1996 09:16:55 -0800 (PST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# KRIS@MOM.SPIE.ORG <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Paco wrote: >Now, this makes me wonder, plain and simple: what is "cocktail" (or >"Exotica") dress code? > >Any takers? > >With that said, are there any films whose subject-matter deal with "cocktail" >or Exotica as a lifestyle? >Any thoughts anyone? "How to Murder Your Wife" starring Jack Lemmon comes to mind instantly. An amazing comic turn on the destruction (read: marriage) of a confirmed bachelor and his ultra-suave lifestyle. Incredible physical humor rendered by Mr. Lemmon (Dick Van Dyke, take notes!) and British wit/sarcasm delivered by Terry Thomas as his "singles only" butler. Swank New York bachelor pad, cool sound- track (Neal Hefti?) and Salomé-type belly dancer with a jewel in her belly- button! I demand that you all see this film. And what about obvious choices like "The Apartment" (another Jack Lemmon) or "Breakfast at Tiffany's" for the party scene alone? Way cool films with snappy dressers all over the celluloid. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: riviera@tiac.net Subject: Re: les baxter Date: 16 Jan 1996 12:45:17 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# riviera@tiac.net <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. ><# Replies to this message will go to: ><# mahoney@neographic.com (kerri mahoney) ><# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. ><# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > >My friend heard yesterday on the radio (WFMU) that Les Baxter died. Not >knowing the state of Les Baxter, is this true? Or had he already passed >away? (snif) > >kerri mahoney > Sadly, Mr. Baxter died around midnight on Sunday,January 14. I had heard that he had been in ill health of late- apparently a stroke prevented him from performing at or even attending the Orchestral tribute that was mounted for him in LA recently. This is a moment I've been dreading...a lot of our exotica heroes are pretty old... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mahoney@neographic.com (kerri mahoney) Subject: Les Baxter? Is it true? Date: 16 Jan 1996 12:49:04 -0400 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# mahoney@neographic.com (kerri mahoney) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. My friend heard yesterday on the radio (WFMU) that Les Baxter died. Not knowing the state of Les Baxter, is this true? Or had he already passed away prior to this? (snif) kerri mahoney also: lowridah@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sadin, Glenn" Subject: Godzilla soundtracks Date: 16 Jan 1996 09:53:52 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Sadin, Glenn" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Tower Records here in NYC has started carrying Godzilla soundtracks. They go for an amazing $14.99. (considering that they're Japanese imports) Can anyone recommend one over the other? YES! Do they have a disc on the Apollon label called "History Of Mothra"? It's a five-star disc all the way. It even has the Peanuts (the twin Fairy Princesses) singing "Mothra no Uta" (Mothra's Song). Another cool one, one the Sony label, is "HOWL! All the Grunts and Groans of the Toho Monsters" (or something like that!). Only $14.99? Sheesh - those suckers go for at least $20-25 each in Japan! Glenn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dragster@interport.net (David Schafer) Subject: Re: Exotica Dress Code Date: 16 Jan 1996 13:06:43 -0500 (EST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dragster@interport.net (David Schafer) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Paco wrote-- >Now, this makes me wonder, plain and simple: what is "cocktail" (or "Exotica") >dress code? >With that said, are there any films whose subject-matter deal with "cocktail" >or Exotica as a lifestyle? Well, The 'Party' starring Peter Sellers, 1968, also stars Claudine Longet, the famed singer/wife of Andy Williams, she sings a couple of songs and the whole thing is absurd and truly great!!!! I just finished reading Joseph Lanza's book 'The Coctail'-- and the movies he mentions in the book would make an interesting screening series--someone should do it, not to mention the variety of cocktail 'dress codes' that would be revealed. David Schafer dragster@interport.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: riviera@tiac.net Subject: Rhino cocktail Date: 16 Jan 1996 13:14:23 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# riviera@tiac.net <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Say,this is slightly tangential,but can anyone explain the presence of Combustible Edison's "Edisonian" cocktail (Brandy,Campari,Fresh Lemon juice) in the Ads for the new Rhino Cocktail comps, *without* acknowledgement?! It's a pretty eccentric formula and widely disseminated on the back of their "I,Swinger" record, so I find it hard to imagine that someone at the advertising agency (or wherever) just dreamed that drink up anew. puzzled and slightly irritated... Riviera ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: Re: EXOTIC TRILOGY Date: 16 Jan 1996 19:35:55 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. lee@anti.com wrote: > ...I'd really like a copy > of this CD and can't find it anywhere in LA. i think it should be avail. from cdeurope (telnet "cdeurope.com") (it's a Dutch release) Greetings from Johan johan.devis@ping.be (home: Wivina 15, 1702, Belgium) @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @ C:\ONGRTLNS.W95 @ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lee@anti.com Subject: Re: Les Baxter? Is it true? Date: 16 Jan 1996 11:22:05 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lee@anti.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Yes, Les died at 12:30 Monday morning of a massive heart attack. RIP to a very special man. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: mahoney@neographic.com (kerri mahoney) at INTERNET <# Replies to this message will go to: <# mahoney@neographic.com (kerri mahoney) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. My friend heard yesterday on the radio (WFMU) that Les Baxter died. Not knowing the state of Les Baxter, is this true? Or had he already passed away prior to this? (snif) kerri mahoney also: lowridah@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Stewart" Subject: Re:Exotica dress code in films Date: 16 Jan 1996 15:34:06 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Bryan Stewart" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I would include "Bachelor Party" (1957) with Don Murray and "Boys Night Out" (1962) with James Garner and Kim Novak. While the music (in my view) was not too memorable, both films convey a sense of free living that at least, gives the atmosphere of a batchelor pad. I can see Esquivel playing in the background. Bryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: riviera@tiac.net Subject: Swank Joints? Date: 16 Jan 1996 14:41:35 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# riviera@tiac.net <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Calling all Lounge Lizards... As there are members of this list from all over the country and beyond, I was wondering if anybody could give me the tumble on establishments in their area that are geared towards Exotica/EZ sounds(particularly ones that feature live acts), and/or Lounges and Lubritoria of an opulent and exotic cast that would be enjoyable for a travelin'swinger. You can Email responses to me,unless this subject is of interest to the list populace(?). Curiously... Riviera ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: anita_serwacki@newlinecinema.com (ANITA SERWACKI) Subject: Re: Swank Joints? Date: 16 Jan 1996 16:20:19 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# anita_serwacki@newlinecinema.com (ANITA SERWACKI) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Though I know most people don't want to reveal their favorite joints, I'd be interested in tips on any lesser known haunts in New York. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: riviera@tiac.net at Internet <# Replies to this message will go to: <# riviera@tiac.net <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Calling all Lounge Lizards... As there are members of this list from all over the country and beyond, I was wondering if anybody could give me the tumble on establishments in their area that are geared towards Exotica/EZ sounds(particularly ones that feature live acts), and/or Lounges and Lubritoria of an opulent and exotic cast that would be enjoyable for a travelin'swinger. You can Email responses to me,unless this subject is of interest to the list populace(?). Curiously... Riviera ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric_Drysdale@kaplan.com (Eric Drysdale) Subject: Favorite NY Lounge Date: 16 Jan 1996 17:48:08 GMT <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Eric_Drysdale@kaplan.com (Eric Drysdale) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I'm not much for these newfangled re-creations. But... One "authentic" NY haunt that I love, though I'm reluctant to share, is the "View" lounge, which is a revolving cocktail lounge atop the Marriot Marquis hotel. Thursday-Saturday they have live entertainment that falls into the "Incredibly bad" category, if not exotica. I've seen two different acts there. One does very lame mid-70's EZ jazz stuff, very odd as it's not good for dancing. The other does a good selection of standards for Latin-style Ballroom dancing but is appropriately shoddily arranged and performed. If your kitsch muscles are in good shape, you'll have a great time. They have a 8.95 all-you can eat snack buffet, but you can fill up on it with a couple of trips. Drinks are expensive, and I've dropped 50 bucks there easily. I love this place because it is so relentlessly "B." People who come from the country think it's very swank, but it's aspirations to true class are laughable... I mean, they gave me a scotch and soda in a wine glass! Great view though. - -E ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Atomic Books Subject: Re: The Mass Marketing of Exotica Date: 16 Jan 1996 17:55:33 -0500 (EST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Atomic Books <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. On Mon, 15 Jan 1996, David J. Strauss wrote: > Also, any thoughts on the oft stated rumor that the RE/Search duo ripped > the entire INCREDIBLY STRANGE MUSIC gig off of giddy Neo-Nazi Boyd Rice? > They sure jumped on the bandwagon late (for San Franciscans, anyway). Well, Re/Search DID rip off the entire Incredibly Strange Films Volume from Rice, even to the point of removing his name from the credits is futures volumes. Juno and Vale are culture vultures, and I wouldn't be surprised if they sucked the lounge music stuff out of Rice's brain also. ATOMIC BOOKS "Literary Finds for Mutated Minds" 229 West Read Street, Baltimore, MD 21201 USA 410.728.5490 Fax 410.669.4179 BBS 410.889.3543 Send $3 for our 100+ page magazine/catalog! http://www.atomicbooks.com/atomicbk/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AMcCon@aol.com Subject: Re:Exotica dress code in films Date: 16 Jan 1996 22:09:33 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# AMcCon@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Kris mentioned THE APARTMENT as being an obvious choice for "cocktail lifestyle film," but I would nominate KISS ME STUPID as a better choice from Billy Wilder, mainly because Dino plays himself. And Kevin King mentioned spy movies and spoofs, but I'd single out OUR MAN FLINT for two reasons: the scene in which Flint dances with his ethnically-balanced harem as the title track arrangement morphs internationally, and the fact that the key mcguffin is a cold cream jar that reads "Exotica!" BTW, I've said it here before, but the soundtracks to both Flint movies are supreme and of great interest to the exotica afficianado. Arn AMcCon@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: aa1515@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu (Ben Mancine) Subject: Roger Roger Date: 16 Jan 1996 22:48:49 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# aa1515@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu (Ben Mancine) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I recently came across an LP by Roger Roger and his Orchestra, entitled "Thrilling" MGM Records, E3201. I bought it for the cover, which still seems to be its only saving grace. Since Roger Roger is listed in the WFMU Catalog of Curiosities, the music must have some merit which escapes me. Sounds like Music To Visit Grandma By. Can anyone clue me on this fine artist? Is this a particularly weak offering? - Ben - -- The subterranean miner that works in us all, how can one tell whither leads his shaft by the ever-shifting, muffled sound of his pick? - Herman Melville ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lucien@interport.net (Lucien Samaha) Subject: the ENDLESS discussion Date: 17 Jan 1996 00:25:48 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lucien@interport.net (Lucien Samaha) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >I don't want to suggest that the bootleg issue is not worth serious >discussion, but it seems that this list has has become mostly a forum for >this topic rather than the music itself. The postings on bootlegs seem to be >outnumbering everything else.I wonder if anyone else feels the same and if >people would agree to go back to the original subject. Once again I do not >want to suggest that I think that the subject of bootlegs is not important >and I hope that the people discussing it do not take this suggestion as an >insult. I have found this list to be extremely enjoyable and enlightening so >far . >Sincerely, Bob I agree with Bob. I have precious little time where I have thoroughly enjoyed reading, learning and benefiting from this list; however, I had to send my fateful "unsubscribe" message today because I just can't afford to stay up past midnight every night just to read about the "over-hashed out" and redundant topic of legit vs bootleg, regardless of how worthy it is. As far as being concerned about the mass marketing of exotica et al to GenX by MTV or whoever, I've been there, but, let's not forget where we live... censorship and restrictions by an elitist group may very well lead to the end of the very forum in which we can discuss these matters. I have been making exotica and surf tapes for my 5 year old nephew who loves a lot of it, and who is not afraid to make funny faces at some of it. With his budding musical talents and of others in his generation, I am looking forward to Exotica, The Third Generation a few years down the road... and hopefully a more relaxed, loungy and enjoyable EXOTICA mailing list in the very near future. lucien ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert P. Krajewski" Subject: Re: Exotica and "Gen. X" Date: 17 Jan 1996 00:35:02 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Robert P. Krajewski" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >for far longer than you've been able to >hear Combustible Edison on MTV. So, for how long *have* you been able to hear Combustible Edison on MTV ? Are there any videos ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "C" Subject: Re: Les Baxter? Is it true? Date: 17 Jan 1996 00:21:34 -0600 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "C" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. By now we all know of the passing of Mr. Baxter, and I guess I feel compelled to share some stuff I have been thinking about. I never knew Les Baxter personally, but while working on this tribute record, I have felt a renewed connection to his music, and the ideas therein. I am not necessarily the most knowledgeable person on the subject of Exotica, but it is a music I care a great deal about. I first heard Les Baxter as a kid, when I would listen to my uncle DJ the overnight shift at the local radio station where he would mix Les Baxter and Martin Denny into Elvis Costello and Cheap Trick. Baxter's soundscapes infiltrated my young mind and warped it accordingly. Like most things not related to the attracting of the opposite sex, I forgot about it during pubescence. It wasn't until my freshman year of college and a total immersion into Throbbing Gristle and Yellow Magic Orchestra did I rediscover the soundsmith of my youth. Now the music was more then weird sounds and odd stories - there was a complex arrangement of ideas and melody that went beyond anything else I knew of, it still does. It seems weird that at this time there has been a recent discussion about the bad side of the popularity of Exotica, and the kitsch value of it. I think if the whole world starts grooving on Mr. Baxter's music, great - they can appreciate the work of an amazing composer and arranger - skills that seem lost today. People should know about this music. The mass populi tend to blow off any composer (especially American) after 1930's as inconsequential simply because it falls out of the "classical" mode. The position composers like Baxter and Prado are in should be compared to composers like Haydin and Chopin, Not the biggest composers of their day, but definitely remembered, revered and their influence still felt on the next generations. Les Baxter wasn't the greatest composer of the 20 th century (couldn't even hazard a guess as to who would take that title) but he was up there. He wrote songs that were hard to make a bad version of, and arraignments that were challenging, he helped to paint pictures that changed the face of post war America, and that is something that should not be forgotten. Thanks for letting me vent your friend Chris T H I S S P A C E F O R R E N T Chris Strouth Ph 612.874.2418 Fax 612.874.2430 email(alternate) prospect@tt.net http://www.tt.net/prospective/index.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dx@netcom.com (dx) Subject: Seeking Hawaiiana Traders Date: 17 Jan 1996 06:04:25 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dx@netcom.com (dx) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Does anyone have an e-mail or surface mail address for Hawaiiana Traders? - -dx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MrBEATNICK@aol.com Subject: Korla Pandit television show Date: 17 Jan 1996 09:21:52 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# MrBEATNICK@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. To all exoticats, Does anybody out there have any information on obtaining videos of Korla Pandit's televison shows from the fifties? I have heard they are out there, but have no idea where to begin my search. Please help. My wife and I will be seeing him perform this Saturday at Bimbo's in San Francisco and I promise a "review" to the list. Les Baxter, rest in peace. Ford ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: transmat@teleport.com Subject: Re: Re:Exotica dress code in films Date: 17 Jan 1996 07:23:29 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# transmat@teleport.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Fellini's "La Dolce Vita," staring Marcello Mastroianni and Anita Ekberg, is one of my favorite Exotica films. Besides the aforemention talent, there is the wonderful music of Nino Rota. >richard _`~=~=~`boom~~`boom~=~= _-I-__\ /__ ` ~ / \_ -I- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Holmes <72241.731@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Swank Joints? Date: 17 Jan 1996 10:15:48 EST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Joseph Holmes <72241.731@compuserve.com> <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >As there are members of this list from all over the country and beyond, I >was wondering if anybody could give me the tumble on establishments in >their area that are geared towards Exotica/EZ sounds(particularly ones that >feature live acts), and/or Lounges and Lubritoria of an opulent and exotic >cast that would be enjoyable for a travelin'swinger. I maintain a short list of Nouveau Lounges, New Cocktail Joints, and Nuevo Bachelor Clubs at http://www.interport.net/~joholmes/sabpsr.html#lounge BTW, please email me complete info on clubs I haven't yet listed -- exact address and phone number appreciated. And it's especially important to drop me a line when one of these clubs disappears. - -=-Joe =----------------------------------------------------= = Space Age Bachelor Pad Music on the World Wide Web = = http://www.interport.net/~joholmes/index.html = =----------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KRIS@MOM.SPIE.ORG Subject: Rhino, JGE and "4 Rms." Sndtrk Date: 17 Jan 1996 08:49:32 -0800 (PST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# KRIS@MOM.SPIE.ORG <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I got my copy of _Entertainment Weekly_ yesterday and whilst flipping through the new issue saw that the 2-page record review spread was a critique of the Rhino Cocktail compilations and the "Four Rooms" soundtrack with a side-bar interview with Juan Garcia Esquivel. They are usually quite fair and ocas- sionally brutal in their reviews... overall the reviewer liked all three vol- umes, preferring the instrumentals over the vocals and gave Vol. 1, 2 & 3 a B+, B & B- respectively. "Four Rooms" soundtrack received a B and helped them tie together their introduction regarding the origin of SABP and it's recent revival. The Esquivel inset was brief but funny. Just a small bio about the man and a fairly recent picture. Excellent "sound-bites" (the "interview" couldn't have been more than five minutes... there are only a few sentences worth of dialogue) in which Esquivel responds to uneducated generalizations that his music is Easy Listening: "...my music has never been easy to listen to!" (I beg to differ.) Anyway, it's worth a glance at the library if not the $1.95 for your own per- sonal copy. The mainstream is catching on... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: RCA Living Stereo CDs Date: 17 Jan 1996 19:17:39 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. just received these 3 CDs from the German RCA Living Stereo reissue series: Esquivel, his Piano & Group 4 Corners of the World (RCA985627) Henri Mancini The Blues and the Beat (RCA604726) The Three Suns Twighlight Memories (RCA605020) the first 2 are ok - Esquivel has 3 and Mancini has 4 bonus tracks - , but i didn't like the "Twighlight Memories" CD: too mellow & cheesy, with the exception of these 4 great tunes: "Jalousie", "Delicado", "Moonlight and roses" and "Jet"; the CD has 4 bonus tracks, 3 from "Fever and smoke" and 1 from "Fun in the sun". someone on this list also recommended: Chet Atkins Teensville (RCA/BMG) but i was afraid to order it when i saw that GMX catalogs it as "country"! is it really country, or does it have some exotica value? - -johan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) Subject: Re: Nothing New Date: 17 Jan 1996 10:44:17 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. At 9:21 PM 1/15/96, cxws@musica.mcgill.ca wrote: > ... the Marie Wilson >album and the Compact Organization label, which devoted >itself to recreating the feel of mid 1960s spy films and >Scandinavian swinger lifestyles [snip] Mari Wilson and the Wilsations! Her version of "Cry Me A River" is priceless; and her pop stuff (I'll have to check the titles on my Compact compilation when I get home) are really worth seeking out. >even bits of bands like the >Raybeats and the Monochrome Set, which, while not exotica >by a long shit, play around with an idea of easy listening. I'm sure you mean long shot. In any event, Viva the Raybeats and the Monochrome Set! The Raybeats, a downtown band that grew out of NYC's "No Wave" scene, were definitely into surf and early '60s instrumentals, which they performed live with great abandon. I would also draw the attention of our fellow readers to the work of the Lounge Lizards (the Lurie brothers), Defunkt, and James Chance and the Contortions / James White and the Blacks, who did a rip-out-your-eyes version of "(We're Havin' A) Heatwave." Early '80s cocktail conversation should also include Kid Creole and the Coconuts and their various spinoff mutations, who added a Latin beat to the sounds emanating from Ze Records, as well as Arto Lindsay's melding of Brasilian sounds and downtown noise. Peter Principle of Tuxedomoon pointed out here a while back that there was a burst of '80s "lounge" activity (there were even "new wave" lounges, at least in Chicago, where I was then), but the music back then had a distinct dark edge, at least in comparison with today's sunny view of the culture. ____________________________________________ "Sanitarium? Alright. If you want me to go, I'll go." - Neely O'Hara, _Valley_of_the_Dolls_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) Subject: Re: Exotica Dress Code Date: 17 Jan 1996 10:45:18 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. At 9:24 AM 1/16/96, Paco Ojeda_Gonzalez wrote: >With that said, are there any films whose subject-matter deal with "cocktail" >or Exotica as a lifestyle? I mean, John Water's "Hairspray" is a perfect >example of a film that not only has period music, but the plot deals >(segregation aside) entirely with the lifestyle associated with the music. John Waters is our spiritual godfather. We should genuflect when we hear his name. In reality, he was cramming this stuff into his films from "Hag in a Black Leather Jacket" and "Eat Your Makeup." To me, the classic "cocktail couple" is Connie and Raymond Marble of "Pink Flamingos" and the couple from "Female Trouble" who tell Divine, "Oh no, we never touch any form of noodle!" OK, if you don't see the humor in that, here are some more traditional views of Cocktail Culcha on the big screen: "Days of Wine and Roses," where Jack Lemmon and Lee Remick show us how to down a cocktail or three, to a soundtrack by Mancini. Most Doris Day movies, often with Rock Hudson and occasionally Tony Randall, including "That Touch of Mink," "Man's Favorite Sport?" and those other gender-benders "The Lost Weekend" - Ray Milland's finest moment; who did the incidental music for that one? "What a Way to Go!," with Shirley MacLaine floating in a two-story champagne glass ...well, you get the picture... kjm CONFIDENTIAL to dx: Do you still do a radio show? Where? When? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: riviera@tiac.net Subject: Nuthin'New Date: 17 Jan 1996 14:23:54 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# riviera@tiac.net <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. ....And,of course,The Lounge Lizards deserve a mention;they've been around since the early 80's- but another band from around the mid-'80s that never got much attention was The Wayfarers, from New Jersey. They played a sort of New Wave/Bossa Nova/Folk Rock/Italian Film Music hybrid. Their sole LP was entitled "World's Fare", though I can't remember the name of the label (I believe they put it out themselves).It included a swingin' Jet-Set version of the Buzzcocks' "Harmony in my Head", and other, moodier originals. Riviera ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lee@anti.com Subject: Re: Seeking Hawaiiana Traders Date: 17 Jan 1996 11:56:52 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lee@anti.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. It's tikigods@west.net Lee ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: dx@netcom.com (dx) at INTERNET <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dx@netcom.com (dx) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Does anyone have an e-mail or surface mail address for Hawaiiana Traders? - -dx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KRIS@MOM.SPIE.ORG Subject: Re: Nuthin' New Date: 17 Jan 1996 12:10:04 -0800 (PST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# KRIS@MOM.SPIE.ORG <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. All this talk of modern lounge/lounge influenced bands from the recent past lead me off on a bit of a tangent. There is an album by Little Stevie Wonder called "The Jazz-Soul of Little Stevie" (Mowtown) that can be purchased on CD with relative ease at any chain store which, given it is usually found in the "Soul/R&B" section, fits quite nicely alongside the sound of "The Easy Project" compilation. Albeit, the arrangement is spare when compared to most of the Exotica orchestras, but it is no less lush and packs a little more bite than most as it leans more towards rock & soul. I think it was originally released somewhere between '62-'66, most of the tracks combine a sleek cosmopolitan feel with mod/spy-style flutes, bongos and brass... all instrumental and highly recommended. Check it out and let me know if I'm the only one who feels this way. Thanks for reading my babble, Kris. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Freitas Subject: Liberace NOW! Date: 17 Jan 1996 16:40:15 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Mark Freitas <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I'm not a big Liberace fan, but bought this album something like eight years ago for its weird pseudo psychedelic cover. But it has one song that is painfully funny. In the middle of "The Impossible Dream" Liberace breaks out into a spoken word recitation of the lyrics that is, well, really weird. And actually kinda of ironic in a sad way. mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ricardo Wang Subject: Re: Re:Exotica dress code in films Date: 17 Jan 1996 14:50:05 -0800 (PST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Ricardo Wang <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. and lets not forget nico's cameo. hard to get anymore "exotic" than that. On Wed, 17 Jan 1996 transmat@teleport.com wrote: > <# Replies to this message will go to: > <# transmat@teleport.com > <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. > <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > > Fellini's "La Dolce Vita," staring Marcello Mastroianni and Anita Ekberg, > is one of my favorite Exotica films. Besides the aforemention talent, there > is the wonderful music of Nino Rota. > > >richard > > > _`~=~=~`boom~~`boom~=~= > > _-I-__\ /__ > ` ~ > / \_ -I- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Freitas Subject: Exotica - the album Date: 17 Jan 1996 17:40:33 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Mark Freitas <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Does anyone know the history of this album as regards the stereo and mono versions. I know it was first recorded with Arthur Lyman in mono. I have this version, but I also have a stereo version, which sounds a bit different. Did they re-record it in stereo minus Lyman (as someone once told me) or did they just overdub the original mono with more drums and sound effects to make it stereo? Jus' wondrin' Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TothMD@aol.com Subject: Re: RCA Living Stereo CDs Date: 17 Jan 1996 23:07:35 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# TothMD@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) wrote: > just received these 3 CDs from the German RCA Living Stereo reissue series: Has anyone seen these in the States yet? What are they selling for? > Esquivel, his Piano & Group 4 Corners of the World (RCA985627) > Henri Mancini The Blues and the Beat (RCA604726) > The Three Suns Twighlight Memories (RCA605020) > i didn't like the "Twighlight Memories" CD: too mellow & cheesy, with the > exception of these 4 great tunes: "Jalousie", "Delicado", "Moonlight and > roses" and "Jet"; the CD has 4 bonus tracks, 3 from "Fever and smoke" and 1 > from "Fun in the sun". Except for "Fever & Smoke," I've been somewhat disappointed in a lot of the Three Suns records I've picked up -- not quite quirky enough or something. Most of them I've passed along to a friend who's a 3 Suns completist, including my NM copy of "Twilight Memories." There are a few tracks I really like on "On a Magic Carpet" and "Love In the Afternoon" though; haven't heard "Movin' and Groovin'" but I'd wager I'd probably dig that one as much as "Fever & Smoke." Michael. TothMD@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: Exotica - the album Date: 17 Jan 1996 23:15:02 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# LTepedino@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. You have very perceptive ears! Exotica was originally recorded in mono in 1956 in Hawaii and did at the time feature Arthur Lyman. (Martin Denny confirms there was no available stereo-ready recording studio in Hawaii at the time). The album was later re-recorded on the mainland (Hollywood) with Julius Wechter in 1958 or 1959 (the correct date escapes me now) in stereo with poor Julius having to replicate Lyman's parts. To most listeners may not have realized the difference but it is apparent in the mono album's longer intro for "Quiet Village" and some tempos which are a little slower on the stereo version. When the stereo version was released, Liberty decided to retain the original mono version rather than mixing the stereo version down to mono. Just so all you Denny fans don't start a manhunt for other mono versions Exotica is the only album where there are two different recordings for the stereo and the mono versions. By the way look for this original mono version to appear soon on CD from Scamp. (I know Lazlo..enough with the plug!) Ashley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: I need a theremin player !! Date: 17 Jan 1996 23:33:12 +0000 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >hello, > >I'm looking for someone in the NY city area who owns and can play a >Theremin in a session for a soon to be released film. If you or anyone you >know can help me please contact me at the above email address or call >David Beal at Noise Production, Inc. 212 714-9074. > >Thank you very much, >Sheldon Steiger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Holmes <72241.731@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Exotica - the album Date: 18 Jan 1996 10:01:42 EST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Joseph Holmes <72241.731@compuserve.com> <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >Just so all you Denny fans don't start a manhunt for other mono >versions Exotica is the only album where there are two different recordings >for the stereo and the mono versions. But not the only *artist* who recorded twice, once for mono and once for stereo. Jack Diamond was among the first to mention around these parts that Esquivel recorded "Exploring New Sounds in Hi-Fi in mono, and then went back to the studio to record "Exploring New Sounds in Stereo." Not having compared the two versions, I can't tell if there are any significant differences other than the stereo mix. - -=-Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cscheffy@kinglet.Berkeley.EDU (Clark Scheffy) Subject: stereo/mono Date: 18 Jan 1996 09:33:46 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# cscheffy@kinglet.Berkeley.EDU (Clark Scheffy) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Joe wrote: But not the only *artist* who recorded twice, once for mono and once for stereo. Jack Diamond was among the first to mention around these parts that Esquivel recorded "Exploring New Sounds in Hi-Fi in mono, and then went back to the studio to record "Exploring New Sounds in Stereo." Not having compared the two versions, I can't tell if there are any significant differences other than the stereo mix. - -=-Joe I remember a few weeks back there was a brief mention of Hanry Mancini's "The Versatile Henry Mancini." My impression was that this was a reprocessed stereo release of "Driftwood and Dreams," an earlier Liberty title. Someone else on the list said that "The Versatile" was indeed true stereo, suggesting another title which would fall into this category. Does anyone know for sure? It sounds like reprocessed to me, but given the Denny re-recording on the same label, maybe Mancini did it too. Clark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Henk Rijks Subject: Re: RCA Living Stereo CDs Date: 18 Jan 1996 19:46:09 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Henk Rijks <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Johan De Vis wrote: > someone on this list also recommended: > > Chet Atkins Teensville (RCA/BMG) > > but i was afraid to order it when i saw that GMX catalogs it as "country"! is it really country, or does it have some exotica value? > It does have some Exotica value, be it in the Countrypolitan category. Chet does some incredible things on his guitar, amazing sounds you wouldn't expect form a six stringed axe. Liner notes are noteworthy, too: Don and Phil Everly penned them. Vocals are OK too. Alas, no bonus tracks. BTW: there's another in this series called "Have guitar, will travel". Forgot the artist, but not really worthwhile. Regards, Henk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: cartoon-like stuff Date: 18 Jan 1996 19:46:10 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Jack Diamond mentioned a couple of Space Age Pop LPs that have a cartoon-like sound. I'd like to add this one to this list: Harry Breuer: "Mallet magic" (AF 5825) which has extensive use of the vibraphone and other mallet instruments, which produce a very funny sound indeed; you'd think you're listening to a cartoon! Are the other "Mallet" albums of Harry Breuer of the same genre? - -johan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mahoney@neographic.com (kerri mahoney) Subject: Harry Breuer? Date: 18 Jan 1996 14:29:22 -0400 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# mahoney@neographic.com (kerri mahoney) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I've heard of an album called "Mallet Mischief", maybe he sticks to similiar naming conventions for him albums. And there's always Raymond Scott and Carl Stalling. K M also: lowridah@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bryan Jare Cuevas Subject: Dick Schory's New Percussion Ensemble Date: 18 Jan 1996 14:35:25 -0500 (EST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Bryan Jare Cuevas <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Any information on the new reissue of Schory's "Music for Bang, Barroom and Harp" (RCA). I noticed somewhere that this was due out on vinyl in the Fall. Has it been released? bryan j cuevas ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brett@echonyc.com (Brett Leveridge) Subject: Pineapple Princess Date: 18 Jan 1996 15:38:54 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# brett@echonyc.com (Brett Leveridge) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. She may be borderline for this list but I think some of her stuff fits. I'm speaking of Annette Funicello. My zine, BRETTnews, is sponsoring a contest, The Beauty and The Beach Giveaway. Enter to win one of seven 2-CD boxed sets, featuring most, if not all, of Annette's recorded output, including Pineapple Princess and Jo Jo the Dog-Faced Boy! No purchase necessary to enter and you can easily enter right from our Website. http://www.brettnews.com/~brettnews Brett * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Without BRETTnews, I would wander aimlessly through the cultural wilderness. With it, I enjoy enlightenment and the love and esteem of family, friends and strangers." -- Bob Costas Enjoy BRETTnews, the Peppy Zine for Active People! http://www.brettnews.com/~brettnews ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: RCA Living Stereo CDs Date: 18 Jan 1996 14:14:27 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Lazlo Nibble <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > i was afraid to order [Chet Atkins's "Teensville"] when i saw that GMX > catalogs it as "country"! is it really country, or does it have some > exotica value? I can't speak specifically to "Teensville" but while Atkins's work is definitely country-influenced, I think of him more as a jazz performer than a country artist. He's not necessarily exotica, but he's damned talented. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keithd@netcom.com (Keith Doyle) Subject: Have guitar, will travel... Date: 18 Jan 1996 13:36:12 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# keithd@netcom.com (Keith Doyle) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Henk Rijks writes: >BTW: there's another in this series called "Have guitar, will >travel". Forgot the artist, but not really worthwhile. >Regards, Henk I believe that is Duane Eddy, and I don't agree that it's not worthwhile, but YMMV.... Keith Doyle keithd@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Watterworth Jay Subject: Re: Bootlegging, my $8.98 worth Date: 18 Jan 1996 16:49:14 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Watterworth Jay <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I assume that you think it is ok. IMHO second-hand records is ok. The artists have gotten their money already. The market for second hand books, like college texts, provides no $ for the authors, but it is a common practice by the INDUSTRY to forward used texts to book stores along with the new ones. Jay Watterworth (Protesting the high cost of learning at) CU Boulder On Thu, 11 Jan 1996, Kevin Martin wrote: > <# Replies to this message will go to: > <# kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) > <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. > <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > > There is no ethical distinction between purchasing a bootleg and purchasing > a legitimate recording second-hand. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: House of Games Playlist Date: 18 Jan 1996 16:35:39 +0000 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Lazlo, Will you please forward this to your list for me ? I just typed this up for an overseas music friend of mine and thought I'd share it with anyone who would be interested. Thanks in advance, Jack http://www.cygnus.com/misc/kfjc/diamond is where you can see my page and all that that entails like album covers, hawaiin print shirts, links, Esquivel and other really cool stuff like KFJC-FM !! Planets-Chunky Les Baxter-Banana Boy (African Jazz) Buddy Morrow Orch-Hiway Patrol Theme Martin Denny-Summertime (Hypnotique) Herbie Hancock-Bring Down The Birds (Blow Up) Lord Sitar-I Can See For Miles Gerry Mulligan/Chet Baker-Orinthology (58/pj/1st pressing) Mel Henke-The Twisters (La Dolce) Al Caiola/George Barnes-Straight Ahead (62) Don Elliot-Blues for Max Esquivel-Fantasy (strings afalme/59/rca) Dom Frontiere-Venus Girl (pagan festival) Fred Lowery-Moon Love Leith Stevens-Perry Mason (58) Johnny Pate-El Jardia (Shaft Africa) Earle Hagen-Rickshaw Ride (I Spy) Mike Pacheco-Number 4 (Tampa/58) 3 Suns-White Xmas (Ding dong dandy xmas) Ken Nordine-TWINK (3/4 tracks running) Quincy Jomes-Dreamsville (Mancini) Animated Egg-Dark (alshire/67) Andre' Popp-Java Martienne (mid 50's) Tom Disvelt/Kid Baltan-Twilight Ozone (Limelight/67 ?) Bobby Christian-Space Suite : Countdown (Aud Fild/62) Attileo Mineo-Century 21 (Seattle state worlds fair records) Russ garcia/Ted Keep, Eng-Frozen Neptune (57,8/Liberty) John Dankworth Orch.-There's a Fight Outside (The Idol) Phil Baugh-Dry Camel (Country Guitar) Babs Gonzalez-Be Bop Sta Claus (55/Doc Bagby) Pete Rugolo/Jack Costanzo-Bongo Riff (In Hi-Fi) Electric Flag-Flash, Bam, Pow ! (The Trip) Davie Allen/Stu Phillips-Skip To My Mary J (Hells Angels On Wheels) Cecil Holmes Soulful Sounds-2001 (Black Motion Pic....Buddah) Martin Denny-Delilah (69/last lp) Ray Martin Orch.-Whodunnit ??!! (Phase 4) David Amram-Switchblades On Parade, The Last Taco (Young Savages. Columbia) Joey Altruda-Playboys Theme(Cy Coleman) New CD, Cocktails With Joey Frank Comstock-Galaxy (Paul Tanner-Theremin) Earle Hagen-New Interns Watusi (New Interns) Robert Drasnin-Orinaco (Voodoo/Per. Exotique, being reissued !!) Frank Hunter-White Goddess (Ondioline) Johnny Gunn w/ Don Ralke orch-Last Thought (Warner Bros) Vinnie Bell-You don't have to say you love me (electric sitar/decca) Sascha Burland/Mason Adams-The Record Reviewers Jack Costanzo,Eddie Cano-Bongo Festeris Danny Guglielmi-Bull Frog Pete Rugolo Orch-Diamond on the move (58, stereo) If you've enjoyed the sounds you have heard instrumental and otherwise, I call it the house of games. Tune in next Sunday starting at 9am for more of the same. Leaving you off here with Pete Rugolo's diamond on the move. That's me, Jack Diamond, on 89.7 KFJC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ricardo Wang Subject: Re: Bootlegging, my $8.98 worth Date: 18 Jan 1996 17:35:19 -0800 (PST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Ricardo Wang <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. On Thu, 18 Jan 1996, Watterworth Jay wrote: > I assume that you think it is ok. IMHO second-hand records is ok. The > artists have gotten their money already. well MAYBE they got some money. most artists don't see much of that to begin with (a label deal is most often more of a loan than anything else.) if a bootleg is a recording of a live performance, then the artist is just as likely to have gotten some money too of course. textbook companies may be one of the few "industries" that are actually more evil than major record labels (their audience is pretty damn captive!) - rwang ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil Clark Subject: Exotica & ads & mass appeal etc Date: 16 Jan 1996 22:51:06 GMT <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Phil Clark <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hi all Have been following the "exotica mass appeal" thread with interest. Someone mentioned the use of classic tunes in commercials. Over here in the UK, a couple years ago, Guinness used Perez Prado's "Guaglione" to advertise their beers, with a commercial featuring a guy doing a fairly loopy dance around a giant pint of same, but strangely unable to actually reach and drink the stuff. As usually happens the single was then reissued and made it into the charts, with quite a good comp album ("King of Mambo") on its heels. Hopefully some royalties will have made it back to the artist on the back of this renewed interest. Hasn't AFAIK led to a whole string of other exotica-tinged UK ads. Yet anyhow. But we do get a lot of "classic" rock tracks, or crafty soundalikes thereof, tacked on to advertise all manner of different products. Which brings me on to mention MTV - we get the European version here which is apparently slightly less vacuous than the US original - but it's often so seamless, how can viewers tell when the music vids finish and the ads begin? Maybe that's the point. toodle pip! Phil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonny.S@eworld.com Subject: Re: Exotica Dress Code Date: 18 Jan 1996 23:34:56 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Jonny.S@eworld.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Synthetics all the way!! ( And cotton underneath) Jonny Sender ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bill wynne" Subject: Yesterday's News Date: 19 Jan 1996 8:51:32 EST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "bill wynne" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Catching up on the 1/18/96 digest... - - All you have to do is LISTEN to the mono and stereo versions of "Exotica" to know there are differences. The longer intro on the mono version of "Quiet Village" definitely creates a slowly-mounting excitement to that version that is not experienced on the stereo cut. Call it "exoticus interruptus." (Ironically, there are BEAUTIFUL copies of both the mono and stereo LPs for sale in my Great Vinyl Blowout of 1996.) - - "The Jazz Soul of Little Stevie Wonder" definitely has exotica value, something just short of old Buddy Morrow albums. Stevie actually PLAYS the bongos on some cuts. But dig that mouth organ (harmonica, for you uncool cats) and brass arrangements. (Ironically, there is a copy of this for sale in my Great Vinyl Blowout of 1996. Have YOU signed up, yet?) - - Obscure example of exotica music in film: For some strange reason (I'm still trying to figure out the reason myself, actually), I rented "Rhinestone" with Dolly Parton and Sylvester Stallone. In the closing scene, when Dolly's lusty agent tries to seduce her, he grabs the remote control, and witha few quick key punches, the bed falls carefully out of the wall, the electric-neon fireplace flickers, and "Quiet Village" comes whispering out of nowhere. So...It's NOT "Four Rooms." And IT'S NOT really worth renting the movie to catch those 30 seconds. Just thought I'd mention it. Have a great weekend... Bill Wynne ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: viktrola@usa.nai.net Subject: Never know what you will find Date: 19 Jan 1996 09:44:06 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# viktrola@usa.nai.net <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Catching up on a small mountain of CDs to listen to, I came across this gem: Hank Garland "Jazz Winds From A New Direction" (Sony Special Products 75027) This features Gary Burton on vibes. Very nice after five cocktail jazz. Just never know what you might have around... viktrola@nai,net http://www.chaoskitty.com "where chaos and lounge meet the great bhuddah kitty" @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ chaos never died @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: message for Bill Wyne Date: 19 Jan 1996 19:44:18 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. i thought i was on Bil Wyne's (hope i got his name right?) auction mailing list, but as i haven't received the list yet, which was announced to arrive last monday, i'm afraid i got off it somehow, and i really can't find his e-mail address anywhere... so Bill, if you read this, please include me in your sale. - - sorry for the inconvenience to other readers -johan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: cartoon-like stuff Date: 20 Jan 1996 00:28:36 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# LTepedino@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. "Incredibly Strange Music Vol 1" features a track from the wonderfully kooky "Mallet Mischief Vol 2" album called "Minute Merengue" Ashley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow (via RadioMail) Subject: Good 101 Strings LPs Date: 20 Jan 1996 05:23:10 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Brad Bigelow (via RadioMail) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I picked up "Strings After Dark" by 101 Strings recently, and was surprised by how good it was. The sound is more like Hugo Montenegro with strings than the Kostelanetz/Mantovani syrup that's on the other two 101 Strings LPs I've bought. I recall from Lanza's book that "Backbeat Symphony" is pretty good, and of course "Astro Sounds from the Year 2000" seems to be up there in the exotica Hall of Fame. But can anyone recommend other 101 Strings LPs worth listening to? Brad Bigelow bbigelow@radiomail.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dragster@interport.net (David Schafer) Subject: Re: Good 101 Strings LPs??? Date: 20 Jan 1996 09:54:00 -0500 (EST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dragster@interport.net (David Schafer) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >Brad Bigelow wrote: >But can anyone recommend other 101 Strings LPs worth listening >to? > Brad -- I have had 'some' luck in listening to 101- but it's real sketchy going. On 'Sounds of Today'-- a sitar is featured on the songs 'Strings for Ravi' and 'Karma Sitar', this LP has tunes from the Mamas and the Papas, Procul Harum, The Association and Bobbie Gentry. 'Million Seller Hits of Today'--This LP contains two songs that are on 'Astro Sounds'--'Surlistic' and 'Sock it My Way', the rest of the LP is ok, but these 2 cuts are totally mad within the context of the LP. I have found that the following LPs have 2 or 3 cuts each that are worthwhile. 'Dynamic Percussion'-(good cover) 'Million Seller Hits of 1967' 'Million Seller Hits of 1966' EZ duz it--David ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Jay <100022.3437@compuserve.com> Subject: Stanley Black Date: 20 Jan 1996 12:36:40 EST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Richard Jay <100022.3437@compuserve.com> <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. WOW!!! I've just discovered a brilliant record that used to belong to my Dad; it's "Great Continental Hits - Caterina Valente with Stanley Black & his Orchestra". I think he's a brilliant arranger, and I'll buy any vinyl of his that I come across, but I was just wondering if there is some sort of retrospective available on CD, or if anyone has anymore info on him. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: Re: RCA Living Stereo CDs: $ Date: 20 Jan 1996 19:26:27 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. TothMD@aol.com asked about the new CDs from the German RCA Living Stereo reissue series: >Has anyone seen these in the States yet? What are they selling for? >> Esquivel, his Piano & Group 4 Corners of the World (RCA985627) $ 16.12 >> Henri Mancini The Blues and the Beat (RCA604726) $ 17.51 >> The Three Suns Twighlight Memories (RCA605020) $ 17.90 prices are from GMX (telnet: "musicexpress.com") and they only ask $3 for postage, regardless of destination or number of ordered cd's! (i think cdconnection & cdnow should take an exemple at that!) - -johan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: Re: 3 suns lps Date: 20 Jan 1996 19:26:37 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. TothMD@aol.com wrote: >Except for "Fever & Smoke," I've been somewhat disappointed in a lot of the >Three Suns records I've picked up -- not quite quirky enough or something. >...There are a few tracks I really >like on "On a Magic Carpet" and "Love In the Afternoon" though; haven't hea= rd >"Movin' and Groovin'" but I'd wager I'd probably dig that one as much as >"Fever & Smoke." yes, =B1 the same goes for me: most 3 suns album i found contains a couple o= f truly great twisted arrangements, and then a lot of sweet, easy easy stuff; their few big masterpieces seem to appear on the rca and rhino comp's; i did like these lps though: "The things I love in hi-fi" because of the use of a pipe organ! "Movin' and groovin'" is the one i like most, because it is the most inventive (of the ones i know off, that is); this is the one with "caravan" and "danny's inferno" - -johan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) Subject: Re: Dick Schory's New Percussion Ensemble Date: 20 Jan 1996 13:54:58 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Bryan Jare Cuevas wrote: >Any information on the new reissue of Schory's "Music for Bang, >Barroom and Harp" (RCA). I noticed somewhere that this was due >out on vinyl in the Fall. Has it been released? Yes, it is available. It's part of a series of classic Living Stereo LP's, reissued on heavy virgin vinyl. They cost around $30 a piece. The series is almost completly classical titles, with the exceptions of the Schory album and "Bob and Ray Throw A Stereo Spectacular" (long considered an audio great), which is compilation hosted by the comedians, and features tracks by Schory, Sauter-Finnegan, Abbe Lane/Tito Puente, among others. The records are available at some audiophile stores. You can probably get more info in "Absolute Sound" or "Stereophile" mags. br cleve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) Subject: Re: Good 101 Strings LPs Date: 20 Jan 1996 13:54:55 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. On 1/20/96 Brad Bigelow wrote: >But can anyone recommend other 101 Strings LPs worth listening to? "A Night In the Tropics" isn't bad, although I wouldn't remortgage the house to procure a copy. br cleve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: asphodel@interport.net (Asphodel) Subject: Ken Nordine Date: 20 Jan 1996 18:20:53 +0000 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# asphodel@interport.net (Asphodel) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Thursday 25th January 1996 5pm PST / 8pm EST / 1am GMT KEN NORDINE will be the guest in the weekly chat forum at Club Wired This event will also feature a special RealAudio broadcast For More information, set your web browser to http://www.hotwired.com/club ************************************************************ KEN NORDINE performing live at The Knitting Factory, New York (March 23rd) More details to follow ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ricardo Wang Subject: Re: Good 101 Strings LPs Date: 20 Jan 1996 17:09:33 -0800 (PST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Ricardo Wang <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hit Songs For Girls is great and worth it just for the sexy cover. La Palma is a very decent "exotica" effort. Back Beat Symphony IS really good, because of the intent stated in the liner notes of trying to "turn on" teenagers to classical music. yeah right. anybody heard their Grand Canyon Suite? it looks like a good one, but i'd like to know more before i risk a whole dollar at value village. - - ricardo wang On Sat, 20 Jan 1996, Brad Bigelow wrote: > <# Replies to this message will go to: > <# Brad Bigelow (via RadioMail) > <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. > <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > > I picked up "Strings After Dark" by 101 Strings recently, and was surprised > by how good it was. The sound is more like Hugo Montenegro with strings than > the Kostelanetz/Mantovani syrup that's on the other two 101 Strings LPs I've > bought. > > I recall from Lanza's book that "Backbeat Symphony" is pretty good, and of > course "Astro Sounds from the Year 2000" seems to be up there in the exotica > Hall of Fame. But can anyone recommend other 101 Strings LPs worth listening > to? > > Brad Bigelow > bbigelow@radiomail.net > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ricardo Wang Subject: Re: Good 101 Strings LPs??? Date: 20 Jan 1996 17:11:10 -0800 (PST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Ricardo Wang <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. oh yeah and With Dynamic Percussion is absolutely fabulous! the best of both worlds audio wise ("rollercoaster" fucking rocks!) and what a cover! - - ricardo wang ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MrBEATNICK@aol.com Subject: An Evening with Korla Pandit Date: 21 Jan 1996 16:18:46 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# MrBEATNICK@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. To all out there in exotica land.... Saw Korla Pandit last night at Bimbo's in San Francisco. He opened his performance with Nautch Dance from Ed Wood (which is a great soundtrack - if you don't have it - get it). Mr. Pandit was just an absolute gentleman. Friendly, very sweet and so small and fragile looking. He spoke to the crowd often and talked of the "universal language of music". Korla Pandit knows how to play his pipe organ - that's for damn sure. Just beautiful. During the applause after each tune, he would gaze around smiling - soaking in the appreciation - and seemed quite touched by it. I was touched, too. He was great. Unfortunately, there was a down side. The opening bands sucked. "Lounge" covers of songs by Nirvana and The Cars, among others. Really, really lame. I did not see The Wonderful World of Joey - so I don't know what they did. The crowd really bugged me, too. I would be willing to bet that three quarters of those in attendance did not even know who the hell Korla Pandit is!!!! They were there to dress up, go to a lounge show and get drunk. There was one time when some whiskey breathed, buck-toothed creep pointed at Mr. Pandit and asked me if "I know that guy's name." Quite a few left early wrinkling their noses as if to say "so this is exotica?" Good. Get out and go back to your Columbia catalog. Ford PS...thanks for the tips on finding videos of Mr. Pandit's fities TV show - I may be looking for a needle in a haystack - but that's half the fun. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bryan Jare Cuevas Subject: Wordless Vocals Date: 20 Jan 1996 20:59:54 -0500 (EST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Bryan Jare Cuevas <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. REQUEST for `best of' lists: Anyone care to list their top 5 (or 10) `wordless vocal' lps I'm searchin'...... Thanks, - - bryan j. cuevas ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cbennet0@counsel.com (Caressa Bennet -- Atty-Caressa Bennett - Washington ) Subject: slack key guitar Date: 21 Jan 1996 16:58:41 EST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# cbennet0@counsel.com (Caressa Bennet -- Atty-Caressa Bennett - Washington ) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. To: exotica, Inet I've been in the mood for some Hawaiian guitar lately. I know there have been a number of recent reissues of slack key stuff on (I belive) the Dancing Cat label. Does anyone have any recommendations of particular discs? Michael Bennet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: viktrola@usa.nai.net Subject: New releases Date: 21 Jan 1996 17:43:36 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# viktrola@usa.nai.net <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Track listings for the next three DCC Bachelor Den's and the next three Capitol Ultra Lounge can be found at Vik's Music News: http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/mnews.html I personally think the DCC volumes beat out the second round of Ultra Lounge but all have something of worth... i remain... viktrola@nai,net Vik's Lounge Of Self Indulgence http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/lounge.html http://www.chaoskitty.com "where chaos and lounge meet the great bhuddah kitty" @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ chaos never died @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: huge@SIRIUS.COM (David Bailey) Subject: Re: An Evening with Korla Pandit Date: 21 Jan 1996 18:31:23 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# huge@sirius.com (David Bailey) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >Unfortunately, there was a down side. The opening bands sucked. "Lounge" >covers of songs by Nirvana and The Cars, among others. Really, really lame. > I did not see The Wonderful World of Joey - so I don't know what they did. > The crowd really bugged me, too. I would be willing to bet that three >quarters of those in attendance did not even know who the hell Korla Pandit >is!!!! They were there to dress up, go to a lounge show and get drunk. > There was one time when some whiskey breathed, buck-toothed creep pointed at >Mr. Pandit and asked me if "I know that guy's name." Quite a few left early >wrinkling their noses as if to say "so this is exotica?" Good. Get out and >go back to your Columbia catalog. I was there, too. But I had a somewhat different reaction to the crowd and the opening bands. I had presumed that there would be a great deal more people playing "dress-up," but most were normally attired. Sure there were the Sc-fi convention types in turbans and smoking jackets, but they were relatively harmless. And I belive that most everyone there forked over there money and came out in the rain to see Mr. Koala Panda, and not Frenchy (one of the opening bands). The Wonderful World of Joey is hard not to like. I wanted to dislike them, sure. But with their unique sound of "suburban soul," I couldn't help but smile and tap my fingers. Great backing band too, including D.J. Bonebrake from the band X on drums and percussion, and a theremin player...Also Joey is personally responsible for getting Mr. Pandit on stage in front of a very appreciative audience.... Korla Pandit was great, considering he had no bass peddles on his organ (what gives?!) and his belly dancers were truly bizarre! DB ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Amycamus@aol.com Subject: Women in Exotica Date: 22 Jan 1996 07:13:52 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Amycamus@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I am composing a web page dedicated to the women of Exotica. Information on these women is sparse. If anyone has any information or would like to offer suggestions on women they feel should (or should not) be included, please let me know. My list at this point consists of Peggy Lee, June Christy, Julie London, Kay Starr, Yma Sumac, and Doris Day. I am also attempting to find information on Keeley Smith and Ethel Azama. The extremely sparse page should e up this week, with updates whenever I get the info. Cherie amy camus@aol.com www.chaoskitty.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Stewart" Subject: Re: Women in Exotica Date: 22 Jan 1996 10:10:20 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Bryan Stewart" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. What criteria are you using? I know that Peggy Lee and June Christy were considered primarily jazz vocalists who may have had some lounge background. Julie London, yeah she would be on the list. Yma Sumac, definitely!! Doris Day? I don't know. Kay Starr?? Nahhh! You might want to consider the two volumes of Incredibly Strange Music. Eartha Kitt was interviewed there. They would have other leads as to who might qualify. Candi Streckler, Jello Biafra and others mentioned in there might be of some help. Also if you really want to get into it, who were the women who made all those incredible backing choruses for RCA, Capitol, etc..? The women (and men) who backed Bob Thompson, Esquivel, Ray Coniff... Bryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bill wynne" Subject: ...no subject... Date: 22 Jan 1996 9:09:11 EST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "bill wynne" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. There are no bad Dancing Cat slack key releases. But DEFINITELY try "Sonny - - Solo" by Sonny Chillingworth, "Leonard - Live" by Ledward Kaapana, "Kani Ki Ho'alu" by Ozzie Kotani, and either "Moe 'Uhane Kika" or "Wooden Boat" by Keola Beamer. Of the first ten Dancing Cat releases, these are definitely my top five favorites. Beamer's and Kotani's styles are so refined that they border on classical. But the truest, most authentic true-to-tradition slack key is played by Chillingworth, Kaapana, and Ray Kane. As a slack key player/recording artist myself, I had the rare pleasure of jamming with Led Kaapana last year, when he, Keola Beamer, and Cyril Pahinui toured the U.S. We played in an alley in Northampton, Massachusetts, in 17 degree weather. The fingers don't move too quickly under these conditions... For more reading on the history of slack key, see the December 1995 issue of HAWAII magazine, the December 1994 issue of GUITAR PLAYER, and the September 1976 issue of GUITAR PLAYER. (You can get the latter by writing to GUITAR PLAYER, or by finding a library with an extensive microfiche collection.) OR write to Dancing Cat, who will INUNDATE you with as much slack key info as they can find. Bill Wynne wwynne@ets.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Mike Flowers Date: 22 Jan 1996 11:08:45 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "kevin king" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Just thought it might be worth mentioning that Mike Flowers' Pop combo have arrived on MTV Stateside. Although listenening to it only made me want to hear Oasis' original (it's such a gorgeous song) it WAS fun. Neon pastels, sequins, funky eyewear and do's on the backup singers with a sparse white background. It strongly reminded me of the (funnier) Rick Moranis lounge singer routine from Second City where he sings eazy versions of De-Do-Do-Do De-Da-Da-Da and Turning Japanese. A side splitter! kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David J. Strauss" Subject: Gerry Mulligan Date: 22 Jan 1996 11:44:00 -0500 (EST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "David J. Strauss" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Baritone saxophonist Gerry Mulligan passed away on the 20th. One of the vanguard "Cool Jazz" composers, it's conceivable that more cocktails were sipped to his music than any other bandleader of the 1950s. DS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robbie Baldock Subject: Record Cleaning Date: 22 Jan 1996 16:39:10 +0000 (GMT) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Robbie Baldock <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Not exactly quick off the mark with this thread but... I heard that there are two records shops in Edinburgh which do a record cleaning service - they have the full kit and only charge 50p for a clean and a new inner sleeve! Sounds pretty good to me! This avenue might be worth checking out for those of us unable to afford our own industrial strength cleaning machine! Robbie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robbie Baldock Subject: Stanley Black Date: 22 Jan 1996 16:40:09 +0000 (GMT) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Robbie Baldock <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Yes, I have "The Latin World of..." which has some lovely lush latin sounds! Robbie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robbie Baldock Subject: Women in Exotica: Elisabeth Waldo Date: 22 Jan 1996 16:48:00 +0000 (GMT) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Robbie Baldock <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. What about Elisabeth Waldo? I just picked up her "Sacred Rites" CD (which seems to be a sort of two-fer with "Rites of the Pagans" and "Realm of the Incas" - though each is only 20 minutes long...?). Some of it is very nice though it doesn't make me smile in the same way that, say, Martin Denny does... Robbie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: Women in Exotica Date: 22 Jan 1996 12:10:15 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "kevin king" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. How about space cadets Lucia Pamela and Francis Canon? kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cscheffy@kinglet.Berkeley.EDU (Clark Scheffy) Subject: wordless vocals Date: 22 Jan 1996 09:27:06 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# cscheffy@kinglet.Berkeley.EDU (Clark Scheffy) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Wordless vocals, or "vocalise" as it is sometimes referred to.. top picks: Anything by Yma Sumac, especially "Miracles" Leda Annest "Portrait of Leda" On a more 20th C classical tip: Recordings by Kathy Berberian (especially those compsed by her husband, composer Luciano(?) Berio who wrote especially for her voice Anything with Bas Sheva Pretty much any 20th C classical is a place to look for abstract vocal, but the listening isn't "exotica" as it seems to be defined within this list, though it is challenging listening. Clark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cscheffy@kinglet.Berkeley.EDU (Clark Scheffy) Subject: Dorothy Ashby Date: 22 Jan 1996 09:38:45 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# cscheffy@kinglet.Berkeley.EDU (Clark Scheffy) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. The "women in exotica" topic has brought to mind Dorothy Ashby. I have an album of hers on the Cadet label called "Afro Harping." It's every bit as cool as that sounds. Some of it is exotica in a Denny-esque sense, but more of it is a funk/jazz groove with heavy exotic africanisms and harp with a small dose of psychedelic effects to blow your F***in mind. My understanding is that she recorded a number (4 or 5) other albums, none of which I've been able to locate. She comes highly recommended. Anyone else heard some of her other stuff? She seems very versatile on this one LP and I would imagine the other albums may have entirely different (and exciting) themes - just a hunch. Clark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: viktrola@usa.nai.net Subject: Re: Gerry Mulligan Date: 22 Jan 1996 13:44:09 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# viktrola@usa.nai.net <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. >Baritone saxophonist Gerry Mulligan passed away on the 20th. One of the=20 >vanguard "Cool Jazz" composers, it's conceivable that more cocktails were= =20 >sipped to his music than any other bandleader of the 1950s. > >DS i missed this news...but strangely read this post while listening to the= Mobiule Fidelity Gold Disc of Mulligan/Desmond "Blues In My Time". Purists= may not call this lounge oor whatever, but if exotica is about= swinging...this cat Mulligan will be sorely missed. i salute him with= highall glass on high!!! i remain... viktrola@nai,net Vik's Lounge Of Self Indulgence http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/lounge.html http://www.chaoskitty.com=20 "where chaos and lounge meet the great bhuddah kitty" @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ chaos never died @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lee@anti.com Subject: Baxter eulogy in Variety Date: 22 Jan 1996 12:03:41 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lee@anti.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Dear gang, This piece on Les Baxter appeared in Variety, thought the mailing list would like to see it. The funeral service was beautiful. Les was eulogized by his daughter, and a couple of friends. One of the friends was a neighbor of his from Palm Springs, that Les was pals with only in recent years. He told many funny stories about Les, including his liking for standing ovations. At the end of the eulogy, it was suggested that all attendees stand and give Les one more standing ovation. Play your Les records often and keep his music alive! HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Les Baxter, the composer, conductor and arranger who developed an easy-going yet exotic big band style, died Monday of a massive heart attack due to kidney failure at Hoag Memorial Hospital in Newport Beach. He was 73. Baxter composed more than 250 scores for feature films, television and radio shows; his compositions include the whistling theme for the TV series ``Lassie.'' He also worked as musical director on many albums for Capitol Records from the 1940s through the 1960s. Among his credits are the conducting of Nat King Cole's recording of ``Too Young.'' Feature scoring credits included ``The Pit and the Pendulum,'' ``Black Sunday,'' ``The Raven,'' ``Fall of the House of Usher,'' ``The Man With the X-Ray Eyes,'' ``Frogs,'' ``Beach Party,'' ``Beach Blanket Bingo,'' ``Operation Bikini,'' ``How to Stuff a Wild Bikini,'' ``Dr. Goldfoot and the Bikini Machine,'' and ``Black Sabbath.'' Baxter's career began in the 1940s playing saxophone in Los Angels jazz clubs, backing performers such as Billie Holiday. As a singer, he was a member of Mel Torme's backup group, the MelTones, and performed with Artie Shaw. After a brief stint with RCA Records, Baxter jumped to Capitol where he enjoyed success with his own albums. Album credits featuring Baxter as conductor-arranger-composer include ``Ritual of the Savage,'' ``Ports of Pleasure,'' ``Tamboo,'' and ``Baxter's Best.'' Baxter orchestrated and conducted Yma Sumac's debut album, ``Voice of the Xtabay.'' He also composed ``Quiet Village,'' which was a hit for Martin Denny in 1959. He was the music arranger for the Bob Hope and Abbott & Costello radio shows, conducting his own orchestra. His television resume included ``Music of the Sixties (The Les Baxter Special),'' ``Buck Rogers in the 21st Century,'' ``Cliffhangers,'' ``The Milton Berle Show,'' ``The Tycoon'' and ``The Gumby Special.'' In the mid 1950s, he appeared in several features including ``College Capers'' (Universal, 1954) with Eileen Barton and ``Untamed Youth'' (1957) with Mamie Van Doren and Eddie Cochran. Baxter last performed in public at the Century Club in Century City on Nov. 16, 1995. He is survived by a daughter, son and grandson. Memorial services will be held at 1 p.m. Saturday at Pacific View Mortuary in Newport Beach. Reception will follow at the Four Seasons Hotel. Family requests that in lieu of flowers, donations in Baxter's name be sent to the National Kidney Foundation: 800-622-9010. (Doug Galloway) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Gresham Subject: Re: Mike Flowers Date: 22 Jan 1996 20:07:22 +0000 (GMT) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Dan Gresham <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, kevin king wrote: > Just thought it might be worth mentioning that Mike Flowers' Pop > combo have arrived on MTV Stateside. Although listenening to it only > made me want to hear Oasis' original (it's such a gorgeous song) it > WAS fun. Neon pastels, sequins, funky eyewear and do's on the backup > singers with a sparse white background. It strongly reminded me of > the (funnier) Rick Moranis lounge singer routine from Second City > where he sings eazy versions of De-Do-Do-Do De-Da-Da-Da and Turning > Japanese. A side splitter! I saw the MFP (any coincidence there...?) in London over the Christmas vacation, and if they come anywhere near you, _go and see them_ - don't miss it. It's a really entertaining show, and they do great covers of some great songs. Their Bacharach Trilogy and the Bowie Medley has to be seen to be believed! 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At 5:06 PM 1/19/96, viktrola@usa.nai.net wrote: >Catching up on a small mountain of CDs to listen to, I came across this gem: > >Hank Garland "Jazz Winds From A New Direction" (Sony Special Products 75027) > >This features Gary Burton on vibes. Very nice after five cocktail jazz. Gary Burton has been making beautiful mallet music since the 1960s. To my mind, he hit a peak of gorgeosity with "Crystal Silence" (early 1970s ECM release). Followers of this list might also seek out the LP "Lofty Fake Anagram" from the late 1960s. In fact, if anybody knows this music or has a copy, please contact me. I am interested in discussing it. Thanks. kjm CONFIDENTIAL TO NUTBOY: My mail reader cut your return address of your message to me (I have to figure that setting out). Will you drop me a quick note? I want to respond to you. thx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) Subject: "Strait Jacket" (Was Re: Yesterday's News) Date: 22 Jan 1996 12:13:37 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. At 5:06 PM 1/19/96, "bill wynne" wrote: >- Obscure example of exotica music in film: For some strange reason (I'm >still trying to figure out the reason myself, actually), I rented >"Rhinestone" with Dolly Parton and Sylvester Stallone. I rented the Joan Crawford classick "Strait Jacket" this weekend. Its soundtrack uses theremin quite eerily and effectively. (The plot & script, written by Robert Bloch, who I think also did "Psycho," is slightly less eerie & effective. But Joan ... well, this is a discussion for another interest group.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) Subject: FWD: HotFlash 3.03: Ken Nordine Date: 22 Jan 1996 12:14:09 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# kjmartin@earthlink.net (Kevin Martin) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Here's a tip for all you "Word Jazz" and exotic cocktail fanatics. >Hello and welcome to HotFlash, the weekly newsletter of events and >information for HotWired and WIRED magazine - 19 January 1996. [snip] >Cocktail: Of Burns, Haggis, and the Rob Roy >+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+- [snip] >When all else fails, we turn to the Rob Roy. We can count on this drink, >with its simple recipe and subtle kick, to put a happy ending on a bad >day. > >And if that's not enough, we'll order the Rob Roy's cousin, the Santiago >Scotch Plaid, which is perfect for when all subtlety has lost its >charm. A Chilean friend of ours says this drink was created during the >mid-18th century by a Scottish general who married a Mapuche (a Chilean >native), and fought against the Spanish army to free the Mapuche >people. After battle, they drank this cocktail, mixed with the blood of >their opponents. > >After a bad day at the office, that would sound just fine by us. > >The Alchemist tells you how - and why - to become a bartender, while the >cook and your mixtress serve up the Rob Roy for the Burns Supper, one >of the Highlanders's finest traditions. > > http://www.hotwired.com/cocktail/ > > >This Week in Club Wired >+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+- > [snip] >Thursday, 25 January, >5 p.m. PST >Ken Nordine, audio hipster > >Ken Nordine, the original hipster's hipster, has just rereleased his >1967 album, "Colors." This recording, originally conceived as a series >of radio commercials for the Fuller Paint Company (of all things), >superimposed Nordine's signature baritone over groovy jazz tracks. > >Nordine is the missing link between Lord Buckley's seminal, metacool >riffs like "The Nazz," Beat Generation fusions of jazz improvisation and >poetry, and urban rap. To paraphrase Lord Buckley, when Nordine lays it >down, it stays there. Now 75, Nordine's voice has been heard in >hundreds of radio and television commercials, in the essential album >series "Word Jazz," and in his psychotropic collaboration with the late >Jerry Garcia, "Devout Catalyst." Join us for an audio Feedback session >in Club Wired on Thursday, 25 January at 5 p.m. PST (01:00 GMT). > > http://www.hotwired.com/club/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Stewart" Subject: Gerry Mulligan/Cool jazz Date: 22 Jan 1996 17:19:51 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Bryan Stewart" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I also want to pay tribute to Gerry. He was one of the best on the baritone saxophone, right up there with Serge Chaloff, Pepper Adams, Leo Parker and Harry Carney. With Chet Baker, Chico Hamilton and Shorty Rodgers, they defined the cool jazz of the 50's. Good, hip penthouse stuff! So many of them have passed on now. Bryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lee@anti.com Subject: Re[2]: Women in Exotica Date: 22 Jan 1996 14:14:51 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lee@anti.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. How about this "Tiki" person on Les Baxters "Primative & Passionate" Beverly Ford? Bas Shiva? Jonathan and Darlene Edwards! And...Louis Prima's pre and post Keely babes?!?! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: "kevin king" at INTERNET <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "kevin king" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. How about space cadets Lucia Pamela and Francis Canon? kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dx@netcom.com (dx) Subject: Re: Women in Exotica Date: 22 Jan 1996 09:52:51 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dx@netcom.com (dx) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. And of course you'd have to include "Miss Exotica", Sandy Warner. Though primarily known for her modeling on the covers of Denny's LPs, she had at least one album as a vocalist. - -dx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lee@anti.com Subject: Robert Drasnin Date: 22 Jan 1996 18:44:00 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lee@anti.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. On Monday, February 5th, there will be a release party for the reissue of the "Voodoo" a/k/a "Percussion Exotique" a/k/a "Exotic Percussion" CD, which will be coming out on Dionysus Records. Mr. Drasnin will be playing the show with a four piece band (featuring DJ Bonebreak of X on drums). The show is at Lava Lounge in Hollywood and there is a cover charge of an entire dollar bill! Also, if anyone on this list is a writer or has a radio show, Mr. Drasnin is available for interview! Aside from this great reissue, he has a pretty interesting history. His last job was as head of the CBS music department! Robert has scored music for Lost In Space, Man From U.N.C.L.E., many made-for-TV movies and much more. For interviews, send Email to DDionysus@aol.com and ask for Aime. For any other info, email me! Lee Joseph ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dx@netcom.com (dx) Subject: Re: Generation X/MTV Exotimedia Blitz Date: 22 Jan 1996 20:19:35 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dx@netcom.com (dx) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Keith Doyle... > Milt Buckner - I've only seen one of his albums but it is one of my > favorites, the cover has a sultry gal smoking a cigarette, I forget the > name of it at the moment. Which is probably different from "Rockin' With Milt" on Capitol (T642). The cover features two pictures of Milt, one of him rockin' at the organ and the other a frightening closeup of his bespectecled face. Tracks include "Lean Baby" "Bernie's Tune" "Rockin' With Milt" "Easy to Love" "Blues For Me" "Robbins Next" "Slaughter on 125th Street" "Little Miss Maudlin" "Movin' With Mitch" and "Take the 'A' Train". - -dx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: 101 Strings Date: 22 Jan 1996 22:44:03 +0000 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Other 101 Strings records, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Sounds of Today is excellent AND Million Sellers with the tune(s) Surelistic and another one I can't remember are the titles from Animated Egg WHICH are some of the sessions from Astro Sounds, confused yet ??:)) The label is Alshire on which 101 strings recorded. Their budget subsidiary is Somerset. A record called The Animated Egg came out on Alshire which is Organ/Guitar instro psych. Surelistic is a title from this lp. Another record called Hair Cut And The Impossibles came out on Somerset and were different arrangements of the same tune I believe, Cleve will know, I don't have it Tunes combined from both records with the 101 Strings and sound effects and Pow pow pow !! Astro Sounds From Beyond The Year 2000-101 Strings I believe all of this happenned in 1967 "Record collecting is no mere hobby, no leisurely innocuous diversion. It's a feverish passion bordering on dementia, driving those under it's influence to irrational,compulsive and sometimes fanatical extremes." 3-93 Bye for now, Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Good 101 Strings Date: 22 Jan 1996 22:44:51 +0000 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Other 101 Strings records, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Sounds of Today is excellent AND Million Sellers with the tune(s) Surelistic and another one I can't remember are the titles from Animated Egg WHICH are some of the sessions from Astro Sounds, confused yet ??:)) The label is Alshire on which 101 strings recorded. Their budget subsidiary is Somerset. A record called The Animated Egg came out on Alshire which is Organ/Guitar instro psych. Surelistic is a title from this lp. Another record called Hair Cut And The Impossibles came out on Somerset and were different arrangements of the same tune I believe, Cleve will know, I don't have it Tunes combined from both records with the 101 Strings and sound effects and Pow pow pow !! Astro Sounds From Beyond The Year 2000-101 Strings I believe all of this happenned in 1967 "Record collecting is no mere hobby, no leisurely innocuous diversion. It's a feverish passion bordering on dementia, driving those under it's influence to irrational,compulsive and sometimes fanatical extremes." 3-93 Bye for now, Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Wordless Vocals Date: 22 Jan 1996 23:29:43 +0000 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. That's a good 1. Group One Sings Mancini or something like that It's on RCA w/ arrangements by George Wilkins and supervised by Hank. Ray Martin-Dynamica (RCA, Stereo Action) Anita Kerr Singers-We Dig Mancini (RCA) This outfit screwed up more records than I don't know what and they hit paydirt with this one. Really great Soundtrack to Seven Golden Men (United Artists) Bas Sheva-The Passions (Capitol) Yma Sumac- Everything, especially Miracles Leda Annest-Portrait of Leda (Columbia) Mary Mayo w/ Dick Hyman on Moon Gas (MGM) Lois Hunt on Marty Manning's The Twilight Zone (Columbia) and I believe she's also on Kenyon Hopkins-Shock Music in Hi-Fi "Record collecting is no mere hobby, no leisurely innocuous diversion. It's a feverish passion bordering on dementia, driving those under it's influence to irrational,compulsive and sometimes fanatical extremes." 3-93 Bye for now, Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: 3 Suns Date: 22 Jan 1996 22:51:53 +0000 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. A Ding Dong Dandy Christmas is amazing. There's no way in god you would ever think that White Christamas is actually that tune. Twisted, beautiful, insane genius. Moovin' and groovin' brilliant, killer diller stuff and then there's Happy Go Lucky on RCA Camden. All of it is mono onnacountta the selections are pre-stereo. It's a collection from through the years and there are a couple of tracks that on the liner notes call them the Super 3 Suns with like 5 great studio guitar players incl Billy Mure, George Barnes... Jack "Record collecting is no mere hobby, no leisurely innocuous diversion. It's a feverish passion bordering on dementia, driving those under it's influence to irrational,compulsive and sometimes fanatical extremes." 3-93 Bye for now, Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paco Ojeda_Gonzalez" Subject: An Exotica funny story Date: 23 Jan 1996 09:26:19 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Paco Ojeda_Gonzalez" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Mail*Link(r) SMTP An Exotica funny story So I finished reading Joseph Lanza's book "Elevator Music" yesterday. I think anyone interested in Exotica would enjoy reading this very interesting book. (Although, I will say that, while seemingly well researched, it surprised me that in a chapter entirely devoted to space age pop, Esquivel was not mentioned once!) Anyway... In one of the last chapters, Lanza writes about Paul Simon praising Muzak by saying that Simon knows he's written a hit if he hears it in an elevator. Well, last night, before going to bed, I was channel surfing, and I landed on the Comedy Channel, Saturday Night Live reruns. And just as I tuned in they were showing this spoof featuring Paul Simon, in which he gets trapped in an elevator and eventually goes to hell. In the background, elevator versions of Ms. Robinson and many other of his hits are playing endlessly. Eventually the devil (played by a SNL cast member whose name I forget) shows up. Paul Simon asks "when do we get to hell"? And the devil answers: "This is it!" I thought it was a funny coincidence! Paco ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: CD overview 1995: INTRODUCTION Date: 23 Jan 1996 19:43:19 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. INTRODUCTION: ====================================================================== (1) my favorites: '''''''''''' My favorite NEW songs of 1995: Bjork "It's oh so quiet" Pizzicato Five "Twiggy Twiggy" My favorite OLDY song of 1995: Dick Dale "Misirlou" The NEW CD I listened to most often: Ken Nordine "Colors" The OLD CD I listened to most often: "Twin Peaks" The OLD LP I listened to most often: Ferrante & Teicher "Heavenly sounds" (2) CD overview: ''''''''''' I've made a list of interesting CD's released in 1995 (and some from 1994) in the exotica & novelty genres. My "EXOTICA CDs from 1995" list is posted in the "Exotica" Newsletter and the "exotic-music" newsgroup, the "NOVELTY CDs from 1995" list is published in the "dementia" newsgroup. Each title in these lists is followed by the label & reference number, the country code of origin, and the release year. CD's marked * already got a review from me, CD's marked ** will get one soon; these reviews were/are posted in the "reviews" newsgroup, and - depending on their genre - also in either the "Exotica" Newsletter or the "dementia" newsgroup. The "reviews" archive site for old reviews is "ftp.uwp.edu". Reviews can be found in the appropriate "/pub/music/reviews/a-z" directories. This site is generally very busy, so please try to connect at off-peak times. If anyone out there with a web page wants to add these lists, pleae contact me, and I'll send you the html version. Following lists are not complete; I'm not perfect; the pope does not shit in the woods... ;) Finally: if you wonder where to buy these CD's, take a look at the "Business/Companies/Music/CDs" section in Yahoo. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: CD overview 1995: part 1: EXOTICA Date: 23 Jan 1996 19:43:44 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. EXOTICA CDs from 1995: ====================================================================== Eden Ahbez : Eden's Island (Del-Fi DFCD 71211, US, 1995) Combustible Edison : FOUR ROOMS soundtrack (Elektra 61861, US, 1995) Combustible Edison : I Swinger (?, US, 1995) Esquivel : 4 Corners of the World (RCA 985627, DE, 1995) Esquivel : Cabaret Manana (RCA, US, 1995) Esquivel : More of Other Worlds, Other Sounds (Now Reprise's Archive series 2-45844, US, 1995) Esquivel : Music from a sparkling planet (Bar None 56, US, 1995) Esquivel : Space-age bachelor pad music (Bar None 43, US, 1994) Ferrante & Teicher : Autumn leaves (Sony SP A 13407, US, 1993) Ferrante & Teicher : Easy listening favorites (MCAD-20733, US, 1993) Patrick Husson : Le jardinier ** (Sony/Columbia 478117-2, FR, 1995) Huun Huur Tu : The Orphan's Lament (Shanachie 64058, US, 1994) Shoukichi Kina : Peppermint Tea House (Asia classics 2) (Luaka Bop/ Warner Bros. 9 45159-2, US, 1994) Enoch Light : Persuasive percussion (Varese Sarabande VSCD 5636, US, 1995) Enoch Light : Provocative percussion (Varese Sarabande VSCD 5637, US, 1995) London Symphony Orchestra : Symphonic music of the Rolling Stones (RCA 09026-62526-2, US, 1995) Henri Mancini : The Blues and the Beat (RCA 604726, DE, 1995) Joe Meek & the Blue Men : I hear a new world (P-RPM103, GB, 1995) Robert Mitchum : Calypso is like so... (?, US, 1995) Robert Mitchum : That man! (w/ "Calypso is like so...") (Bear Family BCD 15890, DE, 1995) Ken Nordine : Colors (Asphodel 0954, US, 1995) OST : The Forbidden Planet (Planet PLD 1, US, 1995) Max Roach : M'Boom * (Columbia Legacy Sony CK 57886, US, 1994) David Shea : I (Sub Rosa 79, BE, 1995) Shu-de : Voices from the distant steppe (CAROLINE PLAN 9 # 2339, US, 1995) Yma Sumac : Live in concert 1961 (the Russian tour) (Elect CD 2116, DE?, 1995) Yma Sumac : Voice of Xtabay/Mambo part 1 (EMI, FR, 1995) Yma Sumac : Mambo part 2/Legend of the Jivaro (EMI, FR, 1995) Yma Sumac : Voice of the Xtabay and other exotic delights (Rev-Ola Creation O34, GB, 1995) The Three Suns : Twighlight Memories (RCA 605020, DE, 1995) v/a : A reggae tribute to the Beatles (Emporio EMPRCD584, distrib. by Trojan, GB, 1995) v/a : Cocktail mix, vol.1 (Rhino R2 72155, US, 1995) v/a : Hollerin' (Rounder 0071, US, 1995) v/a : Incredibly strange music volume 2 (Asphodel 0951, US, 1995) v/a : Legends of accordion (Rhino R2 71847, US, 1995) v/a : Only in America * (Arf! Arf! AA-049, US, 1995) v/a : Stairways to Heaven (Australian version) (Vertigo 514 552-2 or 455223?, GB, 1995) v/a : The easy project (Sequel 2164 772 2, GB?, 1995) v/a : The exotic Beatles part 2 (Exotica Pele 7, GB, 1994) v/a : The exotic trilogy vol.1 (KBZ 292204, NL, 1995) v/a : The History of Space Age Pop vol.1: The Stereo Action Dimension (RCA/BMG, US, 1995) v/a : The History of Space Age Pop vol.2: Mallets in Wonderland (RCA 07863 66646-2, US, 1995) v/a : The History of Space Age Pop vol.3: Melodies and Mischief (RCA/BMG, US, 1995) v/a : The Sound Gallery (?, UK, 1995) v/a : The Sound Spectrum (?, UK, 1995) v/a : Welcome to Chinatown - Oriental "Popcorn" tracks, vol.1 * (Marginal MAR CD 002, BE, 1995) (direct mailorder: Patrick Michiels, PB 4, 9100 Nieuwkerke, Belgium) The Ventures : The Ventures Play Telstar/ The Ventures In Space (EMI 80239 CD, US, 1995) Elisabeth Waldo : Sacred rites ** (GNP/Crescendo GNPD 2225, US, 1994) Yat-Kha : Yenisei-punk (Global Music Centre GMCD 9504, NL?, 1995) ==== lists compiled by Johan Dada Vis January 1996 ==== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: Claudine Longet Date: 23 Jan 1996 19:44:20 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Claudine Longet is mentioned in one of the ISM books, so I tried one of her albums, "colours"; i couldn't find anything strange or exotic about it, it's just ordinary dreamy folk music; am i missing the point, or did i buy the wrong lp? - -johan dada ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: Re: Good 101 Strings LPs Date: 23 Jan 1996 19:46:01 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Brad Bigelow (via RadioMail) wrote: > can anyone recommend other 101 Strings LPs worth listening to? "101 Strings play the blues - in tribute to W.C. Handy" (Somerset SF-5800) is very strange; when i first listened to it, i thought: "hmm, just some EZ strings", but then, very very slowly, i began to hear "the blues", which is burried somewhere under these tons of strings; it really is a strange combination, but i like it a lot... - -johan dada ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: Re: Women in Exotica Date: 23 Jan 1996 19:46:11 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Amycamus@aol.com (Cherie) wrote: >I am composing a web page dedicated to the women of Exotica.... >If anyone has any information or would like to offer >suggestions on women they feel should (or should not) be included, please let >me know. My list at this point consists of Peggy Lee, June Christy, Julie >London, Kay Starr, Yma Sumac, and Doris Day. Elizabeth Waldo should be in it; i'm working on a review of 2 still avail. lp's and a cd from her, sooooo stay tuned! - -johan dada ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: riviera@tiac.net Subject: wordless vox Date: 23 Jan 1996 14:33:12 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# riviera@tiac.net <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Another great one is "Ping Pang Pong;The Swinging Ball" by the Creed Taylor Orchestra (arrangements by Kenyon Hopkins).It features the vocalise of Miss Flo Handy and boasts "over 100 musical percussive sounds".(ABC-Paramount,1960) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clean@bitstream.net Subject: Re: Claudine Longet Date: 24 Jan 1996 02:14:57 -0600 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# clean@bitstream.net <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. ><# Replies to this message will go to: ><# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) ><# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. ><# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > >Claudine Longet is mentioned in one of the ISM books, so I tried one of her >albums, "colours"; i couldn't find anything strange or exotic about it, >it's just ordinary dreamy folk music; am i missing the point, or did i buy >the wrong lp? > >-johan dada Check out "The Look Of Love". That is a GREAT album. I also really like her version of "Love Is Blue". Maybe not for everyone though... I wouldn't call it "exotic". Definitely strange and wonderful! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DaveL" Subject: **a Sale of Sorts** Date: 24 Jan 1996 02:52:14 -0600 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "DaveL" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hi everybody - I'm selling a few things (lounge, exotica, jazzy stuff, EZ listening) via auction right now on rec.music.marketplace.vinyl and alt.exotic-music. If you'd like a copy of the list, feel free to e-mail me at arouet@winternet.com & I'll send it along. BTW, I just got an amazing 1962 LP by Ted Heath called "Big Band Percussion" (London P-54002). This album is loaded with incredibly *dynamic*, groovy, swinging arrangements. REALLY great! Has anyone else heard it? I have some other stuff by Ted, natch - but this eclipses even the "Latin Swingers" LP that I picked up a while back. He's got a huge catalog of stuff, too... dave /\\ \\ \\ \\ / \\ \\ \\ \\ arouet records / \\ \\ \\ \\ ZING! ZING! -----------// // // //------> arouet@winternet.com \ // // // // \// // // // fnast! image ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik@top.monad.net Subject: Re: Claudine Longet Date: 24 Jan 1996 05:44:58 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# erik@top.monad.net <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. <---- Begin Included Message ----> Claudine Longet is mentioned in one of the ISM books, so I tried one of her albums, "colours"; i couldn't find anything strange or exotic about it, it's just ordinary dreamy folk music; am i missing the point, or did i buy the wrong lp? - -johan dada <---- End Included Message ----> It's funny, but whenever I think of Claudine Longet, I always think of the old "Claudine Longet Invitational Ski Tournament" on "Saturday Night Live" around 1977 or so where all of the skiiers kept getting shot by Longet as they're shooting down the slopes. All the best, Jon Johnson ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Jim Campilongo Date: 24 Jan 1996 09:36:04 +0000 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. There is a new CD by a local guy that if you are a instrio guitar fan then this is your ticket. His name is Jim Campilongo and he leads a 4 piece instro outfit that is bass, drums, lead guitar and steel guitar. The CD is called Jim Campilongo and His 10 Gallon Cats and all the tunes are originals. This guy is amazing on guitar w/out sounding over produced. Alot of the sound is country jazz with big time echoes of Jimmy Bryant & Speedy West and Danny Gatton AND swings like all hell. I've listened to it 3 times straight through and it is really great. Though track #10 says it's 15 minutes it's actually 7 with 5 minutes of silence AND then a secret track called Ping Pong kicks in It's not in stores yet and his phone # is (415) 675-5753. They play every Thursday Eve at The Paradise Lounge, Upstairs and the show starts at 9:30 pm. I imagine they are about a million times better live than on tape if you know what I mean and I think you do. KFJC-FM is adding it very very soon If you call him, tell 'em Jack Diamond sent 'cha "Record collecting is no mere hobby, no leisurely innocuous diversion. It's a feverish passion bordering on dementia, driving those under it's influence to irrational,compulsive and sometimes fanatical extremes." 3-93 JD Bye for now, Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) Subject: Fred Lowery question Date: 24 Jan 1996 19:33:33 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. is Fred Lowery whistling on all of his LPs? - -johan dada ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lee@anti.com Subject: Re: CD overview 1995: part 1: EXOTICA Date: 24 Jan 1996 11:33:31 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# lee@anti.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. You've left out two very important releases: Les Baxter "The Lost Episode" (Bacchus Archives Presents/Dionysus Records BA07-1/-2) and Joey Altruda "Cocktails With Joey" (Will Records 039-1/-2)? Also, where on earth can I get that live Yma Sumac disc?? Lee Joseph ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) at INTERNET <# Replies to this message will go to: <# johan.devis@ping.be (Johan De Vis) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to exotica@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. EXOTICA CDs from 1995: ====================================================================== Eden Ahbez : Eden's Island (Del-Fi DFCD 71211, US, 1995) Combustible Edison : FOUR ROOMS soundtrack (Elektra 61861, US, 1995) Combustible Edison : I Swinger (?, US, 1995) Esquivel : 4 Corners of the World (RCA 985627, DE, 1995) Esquivel : Cabaret Manana (RCA, US, 1995) Esquivel : More of Other Worlds, Other Sounds (Now Reprise's Archive series 2-45844, US, 1995) Esquivel : Music from a sparkling planet (Bar None 56, US, 1995) Esquivel : Space-age bachelor pad music (Bar None 43, US, 1994) Ferrante & Teicher : Autumn leaves (Sony SP A 13407, US, 1993) Ferrante & Teicher : Easy listening favorites (MCAD-20733, US, 1993) Patrick Husson : Le jardinier ** (Sony/Columbia 478117-2, FR, 1995) Huun Huur Tu : The Orphan's Lament (Shanachie 64058, US, 1994) Shoukichi Kina : Peppermint Tea House (Asia classics 2) (Luaka Bop/ Warner Bros. 9 45159-2, US, 1994) Enoch Light : Persuasive percussion (Varese Sarabande VSCD 5636, US, 1995) Enoch Light : Provocative percussion (Varese Sarabande VSCD 5637, US, 1995) London Symphony Orchestra : Symphonic music of the Rolling Stones (RCA 09026-62526-2, US, 1995) Henri Mancini : The Blues and the Beat (RCA 604726, DE, 1995) Joe Meek & the Blue Men : I hear a new world (P-RPM103, GB, 1995) Robert Mitchum : Calypso is like so... (?, US, 1995) Robert Mitchum : That man! (w/ "Calypso is like so...") (Bear Family BCD 15890, DE, 1995) Ken Nordine : Colors (Asphodel 0954, US, 1995) OST : The Forbidden Planet (Planet PLD 1, US, 1995) Max Roach : M'Boom * (Columbia Legacy Sony CK 57886, US, 1994) David Shea : I (Sub Rosa 79, BE, 1995) Shu-de : Voices from the distant steppe (CAROLINE PLAN 9 # 2339, US, 1995) Yma Sumac : Live in concert 1961 (the Russian tour) (Elect CD 2116, DE?, 1995) Yma Sumac : Voice of Xtabay/Mambo part 1 (EMI, FR, 1995) Yma Sumac : Mambo part 2/Legend of the Jivaro (EMI, FR, 1995) Yma Sumac : Voice of the Xtabay and other exotic delights (Rev-Ola Creation O34, GB, 1995) The Three Suns : Twighlight Memories (RCA 605020, DE, 1995) v/a : A reggae tribute to the Beatles (Emporio EMPRCD584, distrib. by Trojan, GB, 1995) v/a : Cocktail mix, vol.1 (Rhino R2 72155, US, 1995) v/a : Hollerin' (Rounder 0071, US, 1995) v/a : Incred