From: "K.M.D. Sartori" Subject: Re: "Suspiria" (Dario Argento soundtrack) Date: 01 Sep 1996 00:13:05 -0400 Hello. You have good taste. Check out the Goblin home page: http://www.voicenet.com/~goblin/ Check out the Dario Argento home page: http://www.en.com/users/tmr/argento.html The _Suspiria_ soundtrack is probably Goblin's best, but almost all of their stuff (soundtrack or not) is worthwhile. Dario Argento's best is _Tenebrae_ (aka _Unsane_), but _Profondo Rosso_ (aka _Deep Red_, Goblin's first LP, BTW) is also great. Good luck! K.M.D. Sartori. kmds@usa.nai.net *~'`^`'~*~'`^`'~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: Hard Days Night Date: 01 Sep 1996 11:31:48 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-01 05:22:18 EDT, you write: >well there were short promotional films made for jazz/danceband tunes >going way back into the 30s/40s, which apparently used to be viewable on >special "film jukebox" type machines (were these called Scopitones? I >know not), but I guess HDN (dir Richard Lester, starring those poptastic >Beatles) might have been the first/best/one of the earliest/ most >successful full-length films to take seriously & present well the >phenomenon of a pop band, have a plot, feature "proper acting", a >specially composed soundtrack and the like. Beforehand there might not >have been much quite like it (rock'n roll revue movies, beach movies, >"Girl Can't Help It", "It's Trad Dad" etc). I should imagine HDN was >timed perfectly to catch the height of Beatlemania, and certainly >started a beat-combos-in-movies trend (see the Dave Clark Five's copycat >"Catch us if you can" for proof! or that Herman's Hermits movie whose >name I forget). And of course there wuz the Monkees; I wonder if the >format of that TV show might have been different had the Rutles (whoops >sorry I mean the Beatles) not made their movies beforehand. > >any thoughts? > >beat-tastically > >Phil Phil is correct - there are a number of video anthologies of this stuff, which usually showcase the bands in a wonderful soundstage fake nightclub setting. (these settings for the most part are really worth seeing! - I'd kill to go to a club with the kind of amazing decor and little tables with those little lights on them!) These early "videos" were fairly static in that they pretty much showed the band playing and did not use a "sub-plot' of scenes outside the band.. The only non-band cut-aways I recall would be of nightclub patrons enjoying the music - usually a corny nod from the male to his date at the table. I remember growing up in France and viewing around '63 or '64 a "video jukebox" in a cafe outside Paris (they were very rare and I only remember seeing one ever) of French "Yeh-Yeh" artists like Johnny Halliday. I believe these were actually 8mm color images that were projected onto a screen in the jukebox (probably a similar set-up to whatt was used in film editing machines). My guess is that like the way they used to show movies on planes (pre-the current VCR cassette that is done now the films would be house in a plastic caddy and would be looped. The selection as you can imagine was very limited The particular Johnny Halliday song Ii saw was "Pour Moi La Vie Va Commencez" which used images of Johnny riding around on a horse from the current movie he was in that used this song. So this was the more modern rock precussor of music videos. regards Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marcel Chouteau" Subject: What Is Exotica? Date: 01 Sep 1996 15:52:12 UT "Steve Sando" Sat, 31 Aug 1996 10:05:04 writes >I found this list a bit confusing... >I think the above list is good solid music but not neccassarily Exotica. I guess everyone has their own definition of "exotic." That's what makes this exercise of listing your top 5 so interesting. Does music have to be weird to be exotica? To me, music from another continent and culture (ie Brazil) is plenty exotic. And to mainstream America LOTS of stuff would be considered exotic. I will admit to lumping stuff together in my own head (exotica, lounge, electronic, EZ, whatever), which is sure to offend and/or confuse some purists. But, to borrow from a recent popular political sentiment, let us make exotica a tolerant, inclusionary genre, not one stifled by its own dogma. Seriously, though, I do find your comments to be valid. Music is very subjective by its own nature and your opinion is an interesting one. Let the debate continue! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: What Is Exotica? Date: 01 Sep 1996 16:41:46 GMT >I will admit to lumping stuff together in my own head (exotica, >lounge, electronic, EZ, whatever), which is sure to offend and/or confuse some > >purists. But, to borrow from a recent popular political sentiment, let us >make exotica a tolerant, inclusionary genre, not one stifled by its own dogma. > >Seriously, though, I do find your comments to be valid. Music is very >subjective by its own nature and your opinion is an interesting one. Let the >debate continue! Because I DJ at a club, I have to use labels as a way to give potential interested parties a clue as to what they can expect to hear. We (In Hi-Fi) throw out the genres "space-age bachelor pad music, exotica, and lounge" as ways to describe what we are playing. From my point of view, "exotica" is very specific. It probably stopped being produced in any form since about 1963 and includes people like martin denny, arthur lyman, some of les baxter's work...music of that nature. Tiki aesthetics and cocktail recipes go hand in hand. On the other hand, i think that the subjects that are discussed on this forum (some of which i don't consider exotica at all) would interest most of the people who care about this genre. So it all works out. By the way, I picked up a fanzine at Mondo Kim's called "Space Age Bachelor Pad Music" denouncing Combustible Edison and promoting trip hop! Just goes to show how distorted interpretations can run. jack ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ajackson@yorku.ca (Anthony Jackson) Subject: Dissenting Exotica Date: 01 Sep 1996 13:41:47 -0500 In his "intro to exotica" list of recommended works, Marcel Chouteau writes: >5. Kraftwerk- "Autobahn." I throw this in mainly to stir up dissent. Let's >not get too "precious" about what constitutes exotica. There's a bunch of >cool, atmospheric electronic stuff out there that shouldn't be overlooked (W. >Carlos, Brian Eno, Tangerine Dream, etc.). Another unexpected contestant might be an early David Bowie compilation called "The World of David Bowie". Quaintly bizarre narrative songs with a slice of old English music hall and mildly exotic instrumentations in the background. Aj # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David M. Tobin" Subject: new member Date: 01 Sep 1996 13:49:52 -0700 Hello all! Being a new member to this mailing list I wanted to introduce myself... My name is David Tobin and I have a strong interest in what could be called "latin exotica". I enjoy anything from obscure Tito Puente to Henry Mancini... I'm currently looking for an LP of Mr. Lucky Goes Latin, does anyone know if it has been released on CD? My goal is to open up a "tiki lounge" in Seattle in a year or so with live music and cigars...I'm also associated with a small quarterly zine called Organ and Bongos, a "periodical guide to today's cocktail culture". It's a free publication and anyone interested can write to Organ and Bongos, PO Box 20396, Seattle, Wa 98102 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: You Oughtta Know (Re: A Little Help) Date: 01 Sep 1996 11:57:33 -0600 (MDT) > Jaymz Bee & his Royal Jelly Orchestra, from Toronto have just recently > released "Cocktail Music-Shakin' AND Stirred" with VERY good lounge covers > of various Canadian pop songs... Is this the same Jaymz Bee who's worked with former Yello tapemeister Carlos Peron? -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maravillo@aol.com Subject: Re: A terse introduction Date: 01 Sep 1996 15:17:33 -0400 Bard'o? what night? seems to be a swank void in NYC. Maravillo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: legalrender@kinn.com Subject: fave 5ive / Adamson / Eddy / Heatherton Date: 01 Sep 1996 12:19:30 -0800 IN>>From: "Mark A. Rosati" IN>>Subject: Intro! IN>> IN>>After hanging out and reading the list for about a week I decided to IN>>chime in and ask the powers that be (that is anyone on the list), if you IN>>where trying to turn someone on to "exotica", what five albums, songs, IN>>artists would you insist they get? IN>I can't resist. IN>(Mind you I recommend highly every tune from each album below, but am IN>picking faves from.) IN>1. Antonio Carlos Jobim and Elis Regina - album: "The Antonio Carlos Jobim IN>Songbook"; song: "Aguas de Marco (Waters of March)" IN>2. Combustible Edison - album: "The Progressive Sounds of Combustible IN>Edison"; song: "Solid State" IN>3. Martin Denny - album: "Quiet Village"; song: "Quiet Village" IN>4. Brasil '65 - album: "Brasil '65"; song: "So Nice" IN>5. Sergio Mendez & Brasil '66 - album: "Herb Alpert Presents Sergio Mendez IN>& Brasil"; song: "Mas Que Nada" IN>Somehow I will actually stop at five. Many many omissions... IN>>From: legalrender@kinn.com IN>>Subject: Adamson/Peaks/FS LPs IN>> IN>>1. Barry Adamson: For those who are not strictly into exotic type things IN>>I would urge you to check out his work as bass player with Magazine. IN>>IMHO some of the best bass playing ever in the Rock(?) genre. Actually, IN>>even those who are mostly into exotica might still enjoy Magazine as IN>>they share a certain cinematic type of scope that we all enjoy. Not to IN>>mention that they are pretentious as hell which is often a good thing! IN>>Oh yeah, and they cover "Goldfinger". IN>I did not know Adamson was in Magazine, only that he had played with the Bad IN>Seeds (was on "Kicking Against the Pricks," their cover-album, their best IN>record IMO). I am a huge fan of his solo stuff, my fave still being "Moss IN>Side Story." What would be the best Magazine album for me to check out IN>first? Well, probably "Secondhand Daylight" is my favorite and most likely to appeal to exotica buffs, being more atmospheric than their others. Alot of people like their first "Real Life" best and that is hard to argue against too. There are a couple of comps and collections out (at least on CD) which do a pretty fair job of covering all phase but you kinda miss out on the "feel" of the albums proper. IN>>2. Twin Peaks/A. Baldamenti(sp)/Cruse/etc IN>(Badalamenti) IN>>Duane Eddy, Lonely Guitar. IN>I've heard the name before but I can't remember the context. Is this a IN>contemporary recording? What's the label? He is a guitar player from the late 50s thru late 60s (and probably beyond). Famous for his "Twangy Guitar" sound which is highly influential today. Big hits like "Rebel Rouser". This recording is from '64 on RCA. No idea if it is available in any form today. It's atypical of most of his in that usually his stuff is very upbeat/go-go/rockabilly (or something) sounding whereas this is real slow, a little bit country and orchestrated. IN>>From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com IN>>Subject: Joey Heatherton IN>> IN>>Although this isn't exactly an "exotic" question, I'm hoping someone has IN>the info. Did Joey Heatherton >attempt or succeed in killing someone? In the IN>back of my mind I remember some scandal (and I don't >think i'm confusing IN>her with claudine longet). I also seem to think that she died of an IN>overdose. Anyone IN>>know? Thanks. Bob IN>I think you're right about this. I can't remember the details, but I know IN>she went through a classic starlet tragedy. The funny thing is, I know this IN>from reading a short pseudo-biography in cartoon form in one of the Friedman IN>Bros. books (Drew Friedman is famous for stippled caricatures and IN>accompanying dark humor)... I highly recommend researching this reliable IN>source! :) IN> + --- Thom S. Heileson IN> + + - _oR_ IN> + - phASER@wolfenet.com / heilts1@mpe11.ghc.org IN>(c.c.SVP: phASER@wolfenet.com) IN> + + IN> + + IN> + + Thom S. Heileson_/_/_/ IN> + + _/_/_/ IN> + @@@@ -@@@@@@- oR _/_/_/ IN> @@ @@ -@@@@@@@@@- _/_/_/ IN> + @@ @@ @@@@@@@@@@@ [antiAxiomaticism Unlimited] _/_/_/_ IN> + @@ @@ -@@@ _/_/_/_/ IN> @@ @@ -@@ @@@@@@@ phASER@wolfenet.com _/_/_/_/ IN> + @@@@@ -@@@ @@@@@@@ _/_/_/_/ IN> -@@@@ @@@@@@- heilts1@mpe11.ghc.org_/_/_/_/ IN> ++___+@@@@@@ @@@@@- IN># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? IN># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. --- þ SLMR 2.1a þ Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: new member Date: 01 Sep 1996 16:03:47 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-01 13:58:57 EDT, you write: > Hello all! > Being a new member to this mailing list I wanted to introduce myself... > My name is David Tobin and I have a strong interest in what could be called > "latin exotica". I enjoy anything from obscure Tito Puente to Henry >Mancini... > I'm currently looking for an LP of Mr. Lucky Goes Latin, does anyone know if > > it has been released on CD? > My goal is to open up a "tiki lounge" in Seattle in a year or so with >live > music and cigars...I'm also associated with a small quarterly zine called > Organ and Bongos, a "periodical guide to today's cocktail culture". It's a > free publication and anyone interested can write to Organ and Bongos, PO Box > 20396, Seattle, Wa 98102 > > Sounds great - just cut out the stinky cigar part - cigar smoking has become the Lambada of '96. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: A terse introduction Date: 01 Sep 1996 16:05:31 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-01 15:21:31 EDT, you write: >Bard'o? what night? seems to be a swank void in NYC. >Maravillo Bar d"O is every Thursday from 7:00 till 10:30 and it is indeed a swank place-to-be. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: Magazine Date: 01 Sep 1996 16:41:17 -0500 > IN>>From: legalrender@kinn.com > IN>>Subject: Adamson/Peaks/FS LPs > IN>> > IN>>1. Barry Adamson: For those who are not strictly into exotic type things > IN>>I would urge you to check out his work as bass player with Magazine. > Well, probably "Secondhand Daylight" is my favorite and most likely to > appeal to exotica buffs, being more atmospheric than their others. Alot > of people like their first "Real Life" best and that is hard to argue > against too. Had to pipe in here. I suppose I hold an unpopular opinion that both "The Correct Use of Soap" and the vastly underrated "Magic, Murder and the Weather" are by far their best efforts. The latter still sounds fresh today and is probably the closest they came to anything even remotely 'exotic.' Late Blondie was more exotic, not to mention the Slits or the Raincoats (can just imagine a smooth mix of Return of the Giant Slits, Lyman, Baxter and Odyshape with just a taste of a King Tubby's reggae dub -- oooh nice!) kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: A terse introduction Date: 01 Sep 1996 20:46:35 GMT InHi-Fi presents "Space-Age Bachelor Pad Music" etc. every Thursday evening from 7:00 - 10:30 at Bar d'O. (no cover) This week is a special event. We will be premiering the Sound Gallery 2 (with many thanks to Ashley Warren (LTepedino)). Bar d'O is located at the corner of Downing and Bedford in the West Village, Manhattan, NYC. For a map (!!!), see viktrola's web page, "Viktrola's Lounge of Self Indulgence," (www.chaoskitty.com) or e-mail me at jfett01@pipeline.com for more info. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: Intro! Date: 01 Sep 1996 16:43:35 -0500 > if you where trying to turn someone on to "exotica", what five albums, songs, > artists would you insist they get? I'd suggest the compilations first, leading with two obvious choices: 1- Bar/None's first Esquivel - Space Age Bachelor Pad Music (very necessary) 2- Rhino's Martin Denny comp. - Exotica! (excellent, generous collection) 3- Capitol's Ultra-Lounge vol. 2 - Mambo Fever (or Rhino's Perez Prado comp. which is better but less varied, no Yma Sumac!) 4- Easy Project vol. 1 (spy, blaxploitation, Brit lounge, maybe still the best of the bunch) and to round things off nice and rough-like, 5- ReSearch's Incredibly Strange Music vol. 1 (and the accompanying book, that'll get them hooked!) kevin king xanadu@radix.net http://www.radix.net/~xanadu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Sando" Subject: Re: Intro! Date: 01 Sep 1996 14:35:42 +0000 > On Sat, 31 Aug 1996, Steve Sando wrote: > > > I love hearing about other music (especially new) that Exotica > > fans are listening to but to call Tangerine Dream Exotica is like > > making a martini with vodka. You can do it and you can enjoy it > > but it's not quite right! > > and if musicians such as martin denny had "done everything right" we > would never have gotten the exotica genre in the first place. I agree! Things should be mixed up, I'm just stuck on the exotica moniker. This group is called Exotica but it seems we discuss everything under the sun that might be of interest to people who like Exotica. This is a good thing! I'm not a purist in what I listen to, just what I'd consider Exotica. I remember my mother loved all the Hawaii Calls series, Les Baxter and Denny plus the "Drums of Bora Bora". Pater was into Stan Getz, Bossa Nova and jazz. It really seemed like two different camps and I might add the marriage ended in divorce! Coconut Grove, publishers of MisterLUCKY PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 http://www.wco.com/~coconutg/ "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: orfeo negro Date: 01 Sep 1996 17:36:08 -0400 At 11:56 PM 8/31/96 -0500, you wrote: >On Sat, 31 Aug 1996 bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com wrote: >> >> That's too bad, with a little bit of proper mastering, it might sound >> better. The score was done by BOTH Jobim and Bonfa. I'm not sure who did >> the vocals but I believe the actors lip-synched their songs. > >but i assume the background noise is intended--when i say "noise" i mean >carnaval revellers. there has been no attempt to separate the >foreground--the wonderful main songs--from the chaotic background of the >carnaval. although this makes for some unusual listening, i agree with >the aesthetic choice involved. the organic unity of the film is >preserved on the soundtrack. the "hits" are not dissected for easier >consumption... My mistake. I assumed you were talking about tape hiss or any other sonic clutter. I've not heard the soundtrack CD, but I have seen the film twice and have not found the background noise (on film) to be distracting. With a CD on the otherhand, it could very well be. It may be that the master was taken directly off the film instead of any studio takes they may have done beforehand. The most interesting approach to take would be to find an old LP of the soundtrack, and see if you can detect carnival noise in the background. As far as 'hits' are concerned I'm not sure there were any and I don't believe the film was intended that way. Putting the "Peter Gunn"/"Mr. Lucky"/"Route 66" exceptions aside, most films back then didn't produce 'hits' on their soundtracks. Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: music videos (Re: Hard Days Night) Date: 01 Sep 1996 17:40:57 -0400 At 09:35 PM 8/31/96 +0100, you wrote: >In message , HOUSEOBOB@aol.com writes >>1. The New York Times today called "Hard Day's Night" from 1964 the origin of >>music videos. Did scopitones precede the movie? Or are they right? > >well there were short promotional films made for jazz/danceband tunes >going way back into the 30s/40s, which apparently used to be viewable on >special "film jukebox" type machines (were these called Scopitones? I >know not), I believe they were called 'soundies', small film machines that you would put a penny or a nickle in at a diner or a bar, and watch 3-4 minutes of an artist at work. Nat King Cole, 'Fats' Waller, Ellington, Basie and Helen O'Connell come to mind. Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PooTGuRl Subject: Re: new member Date: 01 Sep 1996 16:04:28 -0700 At 01:49 PM 9/1/96 -0700, Daivd asks: > I'm currently looking for an LP of Mr. Lucky Goes Latin, does anyone know if > it has been released on CD? I don't think it is. Mr. Lucky isn't either. But! They are certainly not rare items and pop up on "for sale" lists, in used record stores or ocassionally in thrift shop bins. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keithd@netcom.com (Keith Doyle) Subject: Re: "Suspiria" (Dario Argento soundtrack) Date: 01 Sep 1996 16:21:30 PDT The Goblins did a few albums in the '70s, including the Suspiria soundtrack which was at the time available, as I bought the album when it came out back then based on another record by The Goblins that I had at the time. I never saw the movie, but have always liked the soundtrack. I have no idea what the current availability of the soundtrack might be, even in the '70s it was an import record. Keith Doyle keithd@netcom.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: new member Date: 01 Sep 1996 19:23:14 -0500 > > I'm currently looking for an LP of Mr. Lucky Goes Latin, does anyone know if > > it has been released on CD? > It was released a couple of years ago on BMG Victor Japan (BMGV046173) . Price is around 35 dollars! kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: new member Date: 01 Sep 1996 19:32:16 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-01 19:14:04 EDT, you write: >> I'm currently looking for an LP of Mr. Lucky Goes Latin, does anyone know >if >> it has been released on CD? > >I don't think it is. Mr. Lucky isn't either. But! They are certainly not >rare items and pop up on "for sale" lists, in used record stores or >ocassionally in thrift shop bins. > > > For those CD-ophiles out ther, "Mr. Lucky Goes Latin" is out in Japan - probably at the low price of $33.00!!!! Regards Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maravillo@aol.com Subject: Re: orfeo negro Date: 01 Sep 1996 20:59:05 -0400 It's hard to imagine Orfeo Negro without the incidental "noise" of the crowd and carnaval. "It throbs with life and with the rhythms of carnaval in Rio," read the liner notes and its hard to disagree. As for the "different rhythms" they might have something to do with the Macumba tradition and serve as a reminder of the gods that plot the fate of the doomed couple, in this case African gods rather than Greek. The debut of Antonio Carlos Jobim, Luis Bonfa, and Joao Gilberto as well as the entire Bossa Nova genre can be traced back to this recording. As for the "hits", songs like "Manha de Carnaval" have become cliche, added to the performing repertoire of countless "artists" and therefore indispensable as far as the Exotica aficionado is concerned. But don't take my word for it; refer to the liners: "this recording will summon up the exciting scenes of surging crowds dancing in the streets, the lovers alone on their hilltop greeting the rising sun, the half-pagan(!), half-religious processions, the extroadinary range of color and costuming(?). It bring to your turntable an exotic and moving musical experience that only records can convey,". Amen to that! Maravillo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sberry Subject: Organs & Bongos Date: 01 Sep 1996 17:59:56 -0700 (PDT) > > My goal is to open up a "tiki lounge" in Seattle in a year or so with > >live > > music and cigars...I'm also associated with a small quarterly zine called > > Organ and Bongos, a "periodical guide to today's cocktail culture". It's a > > free publication and anyone interested can write to Organ and Bongos, PO > Box > > 20396, Seattle, Wa 98102 This zine is really cool, although I haven't seen any new issues since their first issue. Are there new issues available? If you are into lounge culture, this zine is a must! Sean _________________________________________________________________________ Coming Soon... 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Date: 01 Sep 1996 21:43:58 -0400 I saw this on the Flamenco mailing list (although I'm not sure they'd be too happy to get quoted here!) it's from the Sunday New York Times.: "You know a song has been around the block when the Vice President threatens to dance it on national TV and happy delegates to the Democratic and Republican conventions have already given themselves up to it on the floor. Since 1993, when the Macarena first came out in Spain, it has topped the charts in Europe, Latin America, and the US. It has also taken its place among all the popular songs in the world that are mouthed by millions who haven't the foggiest idea what they are singing! The Macarena began when a Venezuelan flamenco dancer so dazzled the Spanish singer Antonio Romero that he yelled out: "Dale a tu cuerpo alegria, Macarena" (Give your body joy, Macarena) and then egged her on "Que tu cuerpo es par [sic] dar alegria y cosa buena" (Your body is to be given joy and good things [sic]). More risque lyrics and a pulsing beat followed and an international phenomenon was born. Since then the song has sparked a line dance craze that shows no signs of letting up. There are "Macarena nights" at ballparks. At weddings and on cruiseships, it is a staple." So grab as much Macarena merchandise as you can, this stuff might be worth something one day! "There's gold in them thar CD's!" Original poster was kantorj@is2.NYU.EDU to flamenco@world.std.com who went on to add: 'By the way Macarena is...nothing but a vain girl who wants to cheat on her boyfriend. What could be a more appropriate song for a political convention, or for that matter, a wedding?' Maybe one day, Macarena bars will spring up and old & used Macarena cd's will line thrift store bins, providing an expensive diversion to fanatical collectors. Who knows? Perchance to dream, Maravillo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: new member Date: 02 Sep 1996 01:54:38 GMT >At 01:49 PM 9/1/96 -0700, Daivd asks: > >> I'm currently looking for an LP of Mr. Lucky Goes Latin, does anyone know if > >> it has been released on CD? > >I don't think it is. Mr. Lucky isn't either. But! They are certainly not >rare items and pop up on "for sale" lists, in used record stores or >ocassionally in thrift shop bins. yes! don't give up on those vinyl bins! there is still a lot to find! street fairs, flea markets, thrift/antique shops, yard sales, etc. and don't hesitate to gamble a buck on that cover that looks intriguing, but you never heard of it. here's the fun of it! jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Gerwitz" Subject: Rahsaan Roland Kirk Date: 01 Sep 1996 19:04:58 -0700 Rhino has just released a $20 video of RRK at the '72 Montreaux Jazz Festival called "Rahsaan Roland Kirk, The One Man Twins." Only 50 minutes long (c'mon Rhino!), but nevertheless a good look at an amazing musician, now deceased, who I had the great fortune to see live quite a few times. I nominate him for the nose flute chair in this list's Exotica All-Star Orchestra. In the tape he plays three reeds simultaneously (using one for a drone), duets with himself on flute and nose flute, plays the pitchpipe, passes around perfume (or something) for the audience to smell, walks through the audience blowing his sax (unmiked unfortunately) and busts up a chair and pounds it on the floor, just for the hell of it. Gimmicks, schmimmicks, this cat was out there, and it's musicians like Rahsaan that make music so much goddam fun. Jim G # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David M. Tobin" Subject: Re: new member Date: 01 Sep 1996 22:21:41 -0700 Actually Mr. Lucky is available on CD, although I do prefer my vinyl version of it...I do spend a lot of time rumaging through old record bins, unfortunetely most of the albums I do find are in such poor condition, including the copy of Mr. L. goes latin which I have... At 01:54 AM 9/2/96 GMT, you wrote: > >>At 01:49 PM 9/1/96 -0700, Daivd asks: >> >>> I'm currently looking for an LP of Mr. Lucky Goes Latin, does anyone >know if >> >>> it has been released on CD? >> >>I don't think it is. Mr. Lucky isn't either. But! They are certainly >not >>rare items and pop up on "for sale" lists, in used record stores or >>ocassionally in thrift shop bins. > >yes! don't give up on those vinyl bins! there is still a lot to find! >street fairs, flea markets, >thrift/antique shops, yard sales, etc. and don't hesitate to gamble a buck >on that cover that looks intriguing, but you never heard of it. here's the >fun of it! > >jack > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Martin Denny's Sound Date: 01 Sep 1996 19:34:03 +0000 What 5 albums should I get to start out with ? >2. Martin Denny. Any album, because they mostly sound alike to me (being a novice exotician myself, please don't hate me), He's the granddaddy of it all in my book. OK, I won't hate you;)))))))))))))))))))))))) IMHO he's the godfather and Les Baxter is the Grand Daddy. True, all of his earlier albums do have a similar sound as the formula works!!! AND isn't that true of any great artist who does have "a sound" ? Scamp has his 1st 2 records on one CD that starts out with "the hit" tht put him "on the map", Les Baxter's original composition of Quiet Village 3 years aftyer its initial release and they also have Afro-Desia which is really from outer space, oh boy is it!! Just might be his best record EVER!!! Then there is Rhino's Best of put out a couple of years ago but the Scamp Remastering is un_be_lieve-a-ble, imho ;) GET IT NOW Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: EXOTICA Date: 01 Sep 1996 19:39:49 +0000 >> 1. Antonio Carlos Jobim. >> 2. Martin Denny. Any album, because they mostly sound alike to me >> 3. Combustible Edison.> >> 4. Cocktail Mix Vol 2: Martini Madness. >> 5. Kraftwerk- "Autobahn." >I found this list a bit confusing... >> I throw this in mainly to stir up >> dissent. Let's not get too "precious" about what constitutes >> exotica. There's a bunch of cool, atmospheric electronic stuff out >> there that shouldn't be overlooked (W. Carlos, Brian Eno, Tangerine >> Dream, etc.). Like I always say, "Lounge Schmounge". The industry wouldn't know real lounge if it came up and kissed them on the cheek Exotica, Lounge, Cocktail...are just catch phrases. It really doesn't have anything to do with anything except sales of course Sure, Martin Denny and Les Baxter and Yma Sumac and whoever else are Exotica BUT Esquivel does some mind boggling "Exotica" too doesn't he ? I've never considered him to be "Exotica" Know what I mean ? ;))))))))))))))))))))))) Alot of you guys and gals are listening to alot of _real jazz_ too ;) It doesn't have to be hard bop Blue Note record label music to be _real jazz_ y'know;) That Jack McDuff on Rhino's 3 CD Cocktail Mix is _real jazz_ and it ain't Cocktail, Lounge or Exotica. It's pure beautiful jazz music. Wanna know about other beautiful, funky, melodic, pop, jazz music ? Drop me a line Bye for now, Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Suspiria Soundtrack Date: 01 Sep 1996 19:40:03 +0000 >Subject: "Suspiria" (Dario Argento soundtrack) > >I just saw this spooky 1977 film last night and it had one pretty weird >soundtrack done by a group called The Goblins. Anybody know anything about >them. How about any Argento soundtracks from his other horror films? >Anyone know anything about them? Nope, BUT a vinyl soundtrack of it was released in 1977 ;)) Go get it "Record collecting is no mere hobby, no leisurely innocuous diversion. It's a feverish passion bordering on dementia, driving those under its influence including myself, to irrational, compulsive and sometimes fanatical extremes." 3-93 Jack Diamond Bye for now, Jack ;-)> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Re: Mono and Hi-Fi. Date: 01 Sep 1996 19:56:00 +0000 (or else it is a >misleading title ;-) ) Scott, No it did come out in stereo with the same title. Hi-Fi was alot more than simply being Mono. In fact "everything" before stereo WAS mono. It may not have been _Hi-Fidelity_ which is somethig all together different ;) High Fidelity is just that. To the extremes of Highs, Lows and Mid-Range and everything in between What preceded Hi Fidelity was super low fidelity in the form of 78's. VERY Lo Fi. For what they are though, 78's are good ;) Generally, I buy mono only if all >that is available Great! Most people don't realize that a great record is a great record worth having _even_ if it's in Mono. I think though it is great that soooooo many people have "discovered" this stuff, a really sad part is that they won't buy mono records. That's insane ! "They" really do think that they will find a Stereo copy some day and that just ain't true. I've had _way too many_ misses on the stereo copy of something or other. Plenty of records that I have only seen once and in mono are in my collection, thank god;)) A warning here from many years of tears in 1 way or another from me and vinyl is don't pass on a mono record if that's all there is. You just may never see it again, period;) Sincerely, Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bodiodo@aol.com Subject: Re: orfeo negro Date: 02 Sep 1996 00:46:15 -0400 Wow! One posting with two of my all-time fave flicks and soundtracks! "Orfeo Negro" was released during my early adolescence (thirty-something years later, I'm in my mid-adolescence), right before my family moved to the Philippines, and I spent the next twenty-five years trying to find the soundtrack. I knew a few people who had it, but they wouldn't part with it for anything, despite having "played the grooves out of it" Seems all of us had some kind of emotional trauma connected with this music, and just couldn't imagine anything providing balm for the wound like this music could. I found my first copy of the soundtrack just a few years ago, while driving from New York to Houston. Stopped in Washington so my companion could hit the used book stores there, and while I was absent-mindedly flipping through a bin of LPs, was stunned to find a mint condition "Black Orpheus" LP--plastic wrapper and all! Three whole dollars! I thought I'd have to pay fifty or sixty if I could ever find it! Only a few months later, doing the used record route with some friends in Houston, I came across the only other copy of "Black Orpheus" that I've ever seen in the wild. It wasn't mint, but it was very good, no visible scratches, virtually no wear on the jacket, and for just six dollars! My wildest adolescent fantasies had been far surpassed! I owned not one, but TWO fabulous copies of "Black Orpheus." "Phaedra" seems to be one of those admirable attempts at commercialized artistry that film makers were notorious for in the sixties. Good flick, as I recall it. But it's the soundtrack that really made it memorable for me. There's some genuinely ravishing music on that LP, and even though the theme seems kinda cheesy to me nowadays, it still has a special place in my heart Tony Perkins' painful, demented rant at the end of the album still raises every hair on my head when I hear it! And Melina Mercouri's husky voice will always seem the very embodiment of luscious Greek femininity. The kicker? Despite my love of these two collections of music, I can't answer any of your questions about "Black Orpheus." However, your having asked them has piqued my interest once again, so when I get any answers, I'll reply. Thanks for provoking such memories! Beau # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: EXOTICA Date: 02 Sep 1996 05:17:34 GMT On Sep 01, 1996 19:39:49, 'dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond)' wrote: >Like I always say, "Lounge Schmounge". The industry wouldn't know real >lounge if it came up and kissed them on the cheek > >Exotica, Lounge, Cocktail...are just catch phrases. >It really doesn't have anything to do with anything except sales of course > >Sure, Martin Denny and Les Baxter and Yma Sumac and whoever else are >Exotica BUT Esquivel does some mind boggling "Exotica" too doesn't he ? > >I've never considered him to be "Exotica" > >Know what I mean ? ;))))))))))))))))))))))) i'm not sure what is meant by "lounge" either, but space-age bachelor pad music and exotica have proved to be useful terms in discussions with other music collecting maniacs. i refer to the byron werner interview, "the trend that never was, space-age bachelor pad music," first printed in the second issue of audio carpaetorium and later reprinted in "cad, a handbook for heels." herein byron lays the ground rules for what qualifies as sabpm, naming esquivel as the main component. i would place "exotica" as a subset of sabpm as byron includes a martin denny discogrophy in his recommended listening section. i believe that "exotica" was also acknowledged as a marketing buzz word back when it was happening. i find numerous records in my collection that use the term as a way of appealing to a certain segment of the record buying market in the album titles. i see only good things happenning from relating more contemporary music to "exotica" influences, but i think including them is confusing things. maybe you need a new term, like neo-exotica (yucch...well at least i tried.). jack (small j) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: trends in exotica? Date: 02 Sep 1996 01:56:33 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-01 21:49:30 EDT, you write: >Maybe one day, Macarena bars will spring up and old & used Macarena cd's will >line thrift store bins, providing an expensive diversion to fanatical >collectors. Who knows? Let's hope not...by the way if there's ever a reason not to vote for the Democrats this election it is because of their taste in music...The Macarena and tunes from Chicago YEEEEAAAAACCCCHHHH!!!! Ashley >Perchance to dream, >Maravillo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keithd@netcom.com (Keith Doyle) Subject: Re: orfeo negro Date: 01 Sep 1996 23:06:06 PDT The one thing I heard about Black Orpheus, is that it's much better to see the subtitled version, rather than the dubbed version because the original Portugese adds much to the character of the film, and how often do you get to hear Portugese anyway? Unfortunately, I've only ever been able to find the dubbed version on video. Keith Doyle keithd@netcom.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keithd@netcom.com (Keith Doyle) Subject: Re: fave 5ive / Adamson / Eddy / Heatherton Date: 02 Sep 1996 00:11:27 PDT Duane Eddy was also known for his version of Peter Gunn, and came back into the limelight somewhat a few years ago to do a version of this song with the group Art of Noise. Though frankly, I don't find his Peter Gunn particularly differentiated from the Mancini version, I think his other "twangy guitar" works are more significant, by far. Keith Doyle keithd@netcom.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: trends in exotica? Date: 02 Sep 1996 05:38:26 -0600 (MDT) >Let's hope not...by the way if there's ever a reason not to vote for the >Democrats this election it is because of their taste in music...The Macarena >and tunes from Chicago YEEEEAAAAACCCCHHHH!!!! > >Ashley Hey, let's not even start getting political here. The fact that someone on this list could even joke about the possiblity of voting Republican after the 12 years of destruction they inflicted on the US public, for which every American is paying for today; despite the half-hearted efforts of Bill Clinton to undo the damage, really puts a dark cloud over my day... and I don't even live in America anymore. Let's leave out politics, shall we? Thanks. Jill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: Martin Denny's Sound Date: 02 Sep 1996 05:33:08 -0600 (MDT) >What 5 albums should I get to start out with ? > >>2. Martin Denny. Any album, because they mostly sound alike to me >(being a novice exotician myself, please don't hate me), > >He's the granddaddy of it all in my book. > >OK, I won't hate you;)))))))))))))))))))))))) >IMHO he's the godfather and Les Baxter is the Grand Daddy. Yes, I would agree with this. Les Baxter "invented" (not literally) the sound. Denny popularised it by doing it so well! Strangely, no one has mentioned "the Exotic Sounds of Les Baxter" as a starting point to exotica. This would be number one on my list. >Scamp also have Afro-Desia which is really from outer space, oh boy is it!! >Just might be his best record EVER!!! YES, YES, YES!!! I think Afro-Desia is perhaps Denny's best. This LP is perfect through and through. Spot on, Jack. Jill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: trends in exotica? Date: 02 Sep 1996 14:09:07 GMT >Let's leave out politics, shall we? > >Thanks. > >Jill i agree wholeheartedly, on the other hand you stated: >"The fact that someone on this list could even joke about the possiblity of voting >Republican after the 12 years of destruction they inflicted on the US public, for which >every American is paying for today." i urge you to refrain from such nonsensical statements, because i am here to discuss music, and have no desire to debate politics. on the other hand, it is difficult to let something like this pass without comment (exactly what you claim to wish to avoid). i think ashley's comment about the aesthetics of the clinton administration had very little to do with politics. jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: convention aesthetics Date: 02 Sep 1996 10:23:42 -0500 > .by the way if there's ever a reason not to vote for the > Democrats this election it is because of their taste in music...The Macarena > and tunes from Chicago YEEEEAAAAACCCCHHHH!!!! Oh yeah, much worse than the splendiforous sounds croaked out by that group of singing Republican senators, and that ever so hip side band featuring a prominently displayed black band leader. Please! (Oops! was that an aesthetic or political comment?) The aesthetics WERE the politics in those conventions. A turkey carcass with all the trimmings. kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: trends in exotica? Date: 02 Sep 1996 11:40:56 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-02 07:42:17 EDT, you write: >>Let's hope not...by the way if there's ever a reason not to vote for the >>Democrats this election it is because of their taste in music...The Macarena >>and tunes from Chicago YEEEEAAAAACCCCHHHH!!!! >> >>Ashley > >Hey, let's not even start getting political here. The fact that someone on >this list could even joke about the possiblity of voting Republican after >the 12 years of destruction they inflicted on the US public, for which every >American is paying for today; despite the half-hearted efforts of Bill >Clinton to undo the damage, really puts a dark cloud over my day... and I >don't even live in America anymore. > >Let's leave out politics, shall we? > >Thanks. > >Jill > Agreed Jill - Lest this little joke be interpreted as a political message let me make it clear to suggest that people do not vote for a certain party based on musical tastes is plain stupid. regards Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: trends in exotica? Date: 02 Sep 1996 15:48:52 GMT >Let's leave out politics, shall we? > >Thanks. > >Jill i agree wholeheartedly, on the other hand you stated: >"The fact that someone on this list could even joke about the possiblity of voting >Republican after the 12 years of destruction they inflicted on the US public, for which >every American is paying for today." i urge you to refrain from such nonsensical statements, because i am here to discuss music, and have no desire to debate politics. on the other hand, it is difficult to let something like this pass without comment (exactly what you claim to wish to avoid). i think ashley's comment about the aesthetics of the clinton administration had very little to do with politics. jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: convention aesthetics Date: 02 Sep 1996 12:04:10 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-02 10:32:05 EDT, you write: >> .by the way if there's ever a reason not to vote for the >> Democrats this election it is because of their taste in music...The >Macarena >> and tunes from Chicago YEEEEAAAAACCCCHHHH!!!! > >Oh yeah, much worse than the splendiforous sounds croaked out by that >group of singing Republican senators, and that ever so hip side band >featuring a prominently displayed black band leader. Please! (Oops! >was that an aesthetic or political comment?) The aesthetics WERE the >politics in those conventions. A turkey carcass with all the >trimmings. > >kevin > Pleeeeaaassseee everyone!!! This statement was not intended as a political statement!!! It was rather to bring to light in a humorous way (although it seemed it was not made clear enough to avoid misinterpretation) how interesting something so important to the lives of everyone on this list - music - is now being used as a defining element and statement for our political parties. That's how powerful music is - and I think we all recognize it. I was merely trying to use a bit of humor say that regardless of a person's race, creed or political affiliation - my record collection must remain a Macarena and Chicago free zone! With sincerest apologies to anyone's political sensibilities I may have unintentionally offended Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: Re: Bozo Engagement Date: 02 Sep 1996 12:03:24 -0400 RE>>Bozo Engagement 9/2/96 Again, congrats, and I will set my VCR...Hey, better keep a zipped lip...what if terry has friends on the 'net? Paranoid as usual, LOUNGE LAURA Just Thought I'd Let Everyone Know Dept: My girlfriend Terry and I are flying out to Chicago this Thursday night to attend a taping of "The Bozo Show" on which, unbeknowst to Terry, we are going to get engaged. The producer tells me that the show will air in mid November for those of you who want to watch an easily flustered woman freak out on TV, surrounded by screaming kids and a giant clown be sure to tune in. We plan on checking out Second City on Saturday night but if anyone else could suggest any other cool things to see and do it would be greatly appreciated. Listening to Cleve's version of "Dreamland", Patrick # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: huge@sirius.com (Huge Graphics) Subject: Re: new member Date: 02 Sep 1996 09:04:43 -0700 >In a message dated 96-09-01 13:58:57 EDT, you write: > >> Hello all! >> Being a new member to this mailing list I wanted to introduce myself... >> My name is David Tobin and I have a strong interest in what could be called >> "latin exotica". I enjoy anything from obscure Tito Puente to Henry >>Mancini... >> I'm currently looking for an LP of Mr. Lucky Goes Latin, does anyone know >if >> >> it has been released on CD? >> My goal is to open up a "tiki lounge" in Seattle in a year or so with >>live >> music and cigars...I'm also associated with a small quarterly zine called >> Organ and Bongos, a "periodical guide to today's cocktail culture". It's a >> free publication and anyone interested can write to Organ and Bongos, PO >Box >> 20396, Seattle, Wa 98102 >> >> > >Sounds great - just cut out the stinky cigar part - cigar smoking has become >the Lambada of '96. Cigars...but they're really hip!! You know..."Look at me...look at me - I'm smokin' a stogie!!! Hey, everybody look at me!" David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maravillo@aol.com Subject: Re: convention aesthetics Date: 02 Sep 1996 12:26:46 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-02 12:17:17 EDT, you write: << With sincerest apologies to anyone's political sensibilities I may have unintentionally offended Ashley >> hmmm- I don't know Ashley, judging from all the responses, I'd have to say political sensibilities is an oxymoron! Maravillo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maravillo@aol.com Subject: Re: new member Date: 02 Sep 1996 12:28:32 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-02 12:20:20 EDT, you write: << Cigars...but they're really hip!! You know..."Look at me...look at me - I'm smokin' a stogie!!! Hey, everybody look at me!" David >> or better yet- just stack packs of gitanes Maravillo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: the shaggs Date: 02 Sep 1996 12:33:42 -0400 I have an urgent question about the Shaggs, but I don't want it published en masse right away(sounds serious, huh?) If you are an expert-please write me at: laura@wusf.usf.edu thanks...anxiously, Lounge Laura "It's just my nature to do weird stuff..." and please leave me your e-mail address in return! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maravillo@aol.com Subject: ad music Date: 02 Sep 1996 12:38:35 -0400 dunno if this is a question better suited for the cowabunga list, but does anyone know who does the music to that Levi's fifth pocket commercial(the one with the pool cleaner and the Goldfinger/Live and Let Die bad guys). It sounds like the Shadows set to a jungle groove. just curious, Maravillo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: convention aesthetics Date: 02 Sep 1996 12:40:45 -0500 > It was rather to bring to light in a humorous way (although it seemed it was > not made clear enough to avoid misinterpretation) how interesting something > so important to the lives of everyone on this list - music - is now being > used as a defining element and statement for our political parties. That's > how powerful music is - and I think we all recognize it. Yes! agreed. No offense taken at all, and there's absolutely no need to apologize. I was just over-reacting to an apparent misinterpretation of a response to your post. Aesthetics and politics are NOT intrinsically separate (at a convention? hah!), as you state above. kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: springer@nyc.pipeline.com (D. Scott Springer) Subject: Re: Baxter Date: 02 Sep 1996 18:51:40 GMT >Strangely, no one has mentioned "the Exotic Sounds of Les Baxter" as a >starting point to exotica. This would be number one on my list. I agree. What is perhaps so amazing about Baxter is that not only was (imho) the founding father of exotica, he also went on to compose an incredible variety of soundtracks. While Sacred Idol is clearly in the realm of exotica, Cry of the Banshee has echoes of Bartok or Schoenberg, and Master of the World has numerous Ravelian flourishes. If only we were able to hear some of the others that American International never released... Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Ethel Smith Date: 02 Sep 1996 14:54:36 -0400 >Is any of her other vinyl this fun? yes, particularly the later "Hit Party" LP of songs like "Spanish Flea." Go by the cheesiness; only a couple are dreary/reverent. >Don't remember seeing her mentioned here. guilty Tony Wilds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Two Questions Date: 02 Sep 1996 15:05:48 -0400 At 09:06 PM 8/30/96 -0400, you wrote: >1. The New York Times today called "Hard Day's Night" from 1964 the origin of >music videos. That's stupid of them to say, unqualified. They mean the first that had a mass audience or something. Promotional music performances (outside of movie and TV contexts) were recorded earlier, probably much. (Have medium, will exploit.) >Did scopitones precede the movie? Or are they right? Scopitones started in the 50s (and were 16mm films that played in jukeboxes). >2. Heard a beautiful cut by Francoise Hardy from an album called "Alone" And dig the gator suit on the jacket. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: What is Exotica (Re: Intro!) Date: 02 Sep 1996 15:31:16 -0400 >Without being precious, Exotica is a genre of music. Being precious, the musical idiom is characterized by: * evocation of Oceana (Polynesia, Melanesia, Micronesia, SE Asia), and to a lesser extent South America and Africa/Araby * simulated bird calls, surf sounds, conch shells, chanting, and "chant" drumming * [sirenish] abstract female vocals * authentic, often obscure percussion instruments Popularized by: [Ravel, for "Bolero"] Les Baxter Martin Denny, Arthur Lyman, Augie Colon Gene Rains Group Webley Edwards The Surfmen (aka South Sea Serenaders, a stellar Denny knock-off group) Yma Sumac (though never evocative of Oceana) and many others; jazz and Latin exponents contributed essential material Epitomized by: Les Baxter's "Quiet Village" Duke Ellington's "Caravan" (actually appropriated from Juan Cisel) Lecuona's "Taboo" old Greek song "Misirlou" Xavier Cugat's "Nightingale" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Tron LP-Wendy Carlos-found/4sale Date: 02 Sep 1996 15:55:58 -0400 Who wanted Wendy Carlos's "Tron" soundtrack, please write: wilds@charm.net. Tony "Passive Seeker" Wilds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maravillo@aol.com Subject: Re: Two Questions Date: 02 Sep 1996 16:04:45 -0400 I think they were probably referring to music video providing an "incidental" visual to coincide with the song, rather than performance recordings which I believe were the Scopitones. You know, more like a little movie and less like a concert. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maravillo@aol.com Subject: Re: What is Exotica (Re: Intro!) Date: 02 Sep 1996 16:08:23 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-02 15:37:05 EDT, you write: << Duke Ellington's "Caravan" (actually appropriated from Juan Cisel) Lecuona's "Taboo" >> do you mean Juan Tizol? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Caravan authorship Date: 02 Sep 1996 17:00:22 -0400 At 04:08 PM 9/2/96 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 96-09-02 15:37:05 EDT, you write: > >>Duke Ellington's "Caravan" (actually appropriated from Juan Cisel) >do you mean Juan Tizol? Yes, if Tizol was contemporary with the song's authorship. Learned this from "Hoppy" of Baltimore's Mambo Combo. (I have more faith in his drumming than his spelling or my hearing and memory.) Despite the great Ellington's later Caravan-ish explorations, I never did believe that the Duke composed it. Now, who was the first to lyricize it? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: amycamus@interport.net Subject: Re: new member Date: 02 Sep 1996 17:42:18 -0400 (EDT) >In a message dated 96-09-02 12:20:20 EDT, you write: > ><< Cigars...but they're really hip!! You know..."Look at me...look at me - >I'm > smokin' a stogie!!! Hey, everybody look at me!" > > David >> >or better yet- just stack packs of gitanes >Maravillo > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. Or you could just light your hair on fire...Not only do you draw far more atttention than smoking a cigar, but you smell better. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PooTGuRl Subject: Re: convention aesthetics Date: 02 Sep 1996 14:43:15 -0700 >With sincerest apologies to anyone's political sensibilities I may have >unintentionally offended >Ashley Ashley.. Absolutely no offense taken. I learned a long time ago not to be so F&*#ing thin skinned about things like that. Keep up the good work Mr. Scamp! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: basic hip Subject: two french guys Date: 02 Sep 1996 15:11:37 -0700 hi.... A nice thrift store find: Presenting Popp! Andre Popp and his Orchestra on Columbia's Adventures in Sound. Andre Popp is the Delirium in Hi-Fi guy. Calls himself Elsa Popping on that one. Oops! Almost forgot the martians....the Pixieland Band. This one is pretty cool, but does not contain the weird tape manipulations and backward recordings found on Delirium. Kind of cartoony music - Jack calls Andre Popp the French Esquivel. Another French composer that I like is Roger Roger. He worked with Andre Popp and is from the "same school". Has a CD out called Grands Travaux. Pleasing, light, happy "production" music. Makes you smile. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Douglas Newlands" Subject: RE: Organs & Bongos Date: 02 Sep 1996 20:32:57 UT Please make your tiki place all ages, if possible. thank you # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: trends in exotica? Date: 02 Sep 1996 18:41:49 -0400 At 01:56 AM 9/2/96 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 96-09-01 21:49:30 EDT, you write: > >>Maybe one day, Macarena bars will spring up and old & used Macarena cd's >will >>line thrift store bins, providing an expensive diversion to fanatical >>collectors. Who knows? > >Let's hope not...by the way if there's ever a reason not to vote for the >Democrats this election it is because of their taste in music...The Macarena >and tunes from Chicago YEEEEAAAAACCCCHHHH!!!! > >Ashley >>Perchance to dream, >>Maravillo The 'Macarena' will go the way the 'Achy-Breaky' went, into oblivion.....(yes!) That always seems to happen when you see establishment figures like TV news anchors, sports figures and politicians do it. Dumb, dumb, dumb... Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: Baxter Date: 02 Sep 1996 18:48:57 -0400 At 06:51 PM 9/2/96 GMT, you wrote: >I agree. What is perhaps so amazing about Baxter is that not only was >(imho) the founding father of exotica, he also went on to compose an >incredible variety of soundtracks. While Sacred Idol is clearly in the >realm of exotica, Cry of the Banshee has echoes of Bartok or Schoenberg, >and Master of the World has numerous Ravelian flourishes. If only we were >able to hear some of the others that American International never >released... > >Scott > The music Les did for Capitol is one thing, but those American-International soundtracks are another. Arkoff and Nicholson used Les Baxter on many of their film soundtracks, that may never see the light of day on CD. It's a real shame too. Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cscheffy@kinglet.Berkeley.EDU (Clark Scheffy) Subject: Goblin (was Suspiria) Date: 02 Sep 1996 16:12:11 PDT I know very little about Goblin, but I can add mystery to the discussion... I am aware of at least 4 albums by the group. In addition, the lead member whose name i don't remember has alsr released a couple of albums under his name. All of the records are extremely difficult to find and command high prices at the collector's stores, especially from Prog fanatics. The stuff is some of the best rock / soundtrack type material I've ever heard and I sure wish I could get my hands on some of it... Maybe there's someone on the list from Italy who can say if any of it is still in print over there? I don't think any of Goblin's material was released ever released in the US. Clark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Lewis Subject: Couple finds... Date: 02 Sep 1996 20:13:05 -0400 (EDT) Found a couple things over the weekend: Enoch Light: Discotheque Saw a discussion of this a while back. Is it good? Worth anything? Betty Harris (?) with Enoch Light Orchestra 78 with two songs: That Doggie in the Window and Your Cheatin' Heart are these common? Thanks, Paul Paul Lewis lewis@netlab.texsci.edu Coordinator of Academic Computing (215) 951-2834 [office] Philadelphia College of Textiles and Science "We do it because we are compelled." -Alan Moore # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Lewis Subject: Commercial Date: 02 Sep 1996 20:20:45 -0400 (EDT) Anyone else see the Lays potato chip commercial with the loungey/exotica-type soundtrack? Anyone know what it is? Paul Lewis lewis@netlab.texsci.edu Coordinator of Academic Computing (215) 951-2834 [office] Philadelphia College of Textiles and Science "We do it because we are compelled." -Alan Moore # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: Goblin (was Suspiria) Date: 03 Sep 1996 00:00:58 GMT the george romero/dario argento masterpiece "dawn of the dead" is one of my most worn out videos. the soundtrack is smashing and yeah, another by goblin. the vinyl is varese sarabande vc 81106. jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: trends in exotica? Date: 02 Sep 1996 18:13:56 -0600 (MDT) >Agreed Jill - Lest this little joke be interpreted as a political message let >me make it clear to suggest that people do not vote for a certain party based >on musical tastes is plain stupid. > >regards >Ashley > Ashley, Yes, I knew you were joking, but the sad fact is there are people who would vote or not vote for a political candidate over something so silly. Politics as played by the politicians seems to go for that lowest common denominator tactic to win votes instead of concentrating on policies to win votes, which is a sad statement on our society - because this ACTUALLY works, as the past few elections prove.. It has been said that I have no sense of humour. It's just your joke made light of a really sad situation, and it just kinda got me down. I'm OK about it. I know it's a joke. But I'm sure you realise that there actually are people out there that would place a vote due to a song. And it gets me dooooownnnn... With chin on ground 'coz I'm feelin' might low, Jill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: Couple finds... Date: 03 Sep 1996 00:18:17 GMT On Sep 02, 1996 20:13:05, 'Paul Lewis ' wrote: > >Found a couple things over the weekend: > >Enoch Light: Discotheque i tried to spin the "goldfinger" cut a couple of weeks ago...man, there's NO breaks between cuts! it all runs together like one of those "concept" albums...strange. perhaps a precursor to contemporary club dj techniques where songs overlap. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: trends in exotica? Date: 02 Sep 1996 20:59:38 -0500 > The 'Macarena' will go the way the 'Achy-Breaky' went, into > oblivion.....(yes!) Just be sure to hold on to those Electric Slide records! still doin' the Smurf, kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray_Coffey@hmco.com Subject: Duane Eddy Date: 02 Sep 1996 21:41:52 EDT Rhino put out a two-CD set of Duane Eddy called Twang Thang a couple of years ago. It includes Rebel Rouser as well as two versions of Peter Gunn (Just Duane, and with Art of Noise). I'd recommend it, as I'm a fan of twangy gitfiddles. I *think* Lonely Guitar is on it, but I'll have to check. That title is awfully familiar. Ray # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: politix songs Date: 02 Sep 1996 21:44:22 -0400 >there actually are people out there that would place a vote due to a song. And it gets me dooooownnnn... Don't let it bring you down; instead blast a corrective into the streets. Such as... "Flyin' high way up in the sky, just like Superman [Christopher Reeve, get it?]. I gotta a little piece of Kryptonite, yeah, bring that guy back to land... ...Richard Nixon would like to be the King of the USA. But this generation's hip to him, people. He's nothin' but another L-B-J." -- Country Joe & the Fish, long before Watergate made voters hip. There's a long tradition of political folk songs, and frankly, I'd vote for anyone who'd play, oh, "Kick Out the Jams" on national TV. For post-election fun, there's always "The President's Council on Psychedelic Fitness" by the Blue Magoos. And the Fugs. For youngsters, the superb "Folk Sing" on Bongwater's "Power of Pussy." Macarena, Electric Boogie, Funky Boogalu, who cares? Better to twist to a "mere" stoopit dance song than in the hot wind blown by the Grim Party of Loathing and Cheapnis -- if only they had the self-effacement to play some Heino, one could at least _not_ vote for the Geek Party in good conscience. Jello Biafra in 2000. And the beat goes on. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bodiodo@aol.com Subject: Re: What Is Exotica? Date: 02 Sep 1996 21:48:43 -0400 Here, here! Well spoken! I feel that, as long as we don't actually need to limit our exchanges to subjects which undeniably fall under a tightly defined description, we can gain a lot of groovy insight into what we and others are listening to. Don't get me wrong, though. Dissent is important, and I enjoy examining both (all?) sides of an argument--just so long as it doesn't become hurtful! Lay on, MacDuff! Beau di Audeau # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maravillo@aol.com Subject: Re: Goblin (was Suspiria) Date: 02 Sep 1996 23:09:34 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-02 19:47:54 EDT, you write: << I don't think any of Goblin's material was released ever released in the US. Clark >> Is this the same Goblin (Italian group) that did the soundtrack to Dawn of the Dead? scratching my head, Maravillo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Allen Barksdale Subject: Hard Days Night Date: 02 Sep 1996 23:15:01 -0400 (EDT) Although I've always gotten off on "Hard Days Night" there's no way this could be the "First movie video" or whatever. How about those Betty Boop cartoons (c.1933) with Cab Calloway and crew. The musicians presence has little connection to the idea - this is definately song plugging at an early date. Allen B. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keithd@netcom.com (Keith Doyle) Subject: Re: Hard Days Night Date: 02 Sep 1996 20:32:26 PDT Not only Betty Boop cartoons, but there were musical shorts made around that time that consist strictly of shots of the band playing a tune, not mixed with cartoons. One particularly great one I can recall, is "Reg Kehoe and his Marimba Queens" which has Reg animatedly playing a string bass in amongst some 8 or so women all playing their own marimbas. And there's lots more, most made in the early days of sound on film. Keith Doyle keithd@netcom.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Allen Barksdale Subject: Author of Caravan Date: 02 Sep 1996 23:53:53 -0400 (EDT) The other night I shelled out a buck for an old Nat "King" Cole record wher they do "Caravan" and the Nat sings of the desert sands.... is this the origins of the lyrics someone asked about ? As I recall the Mills Bros. version is skat singing rather than regular lyrics, but the memory here could be off. So hepcats.....who sang the song first ? Allen B. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maravillo@aol.com Subject: Re: Author of Caravan Date: 03 Sep 1996 03:03:45 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-02 23:57:53 EDT, you write: << The other night I shelled out a buck for an old Nat "King" Cole record wher they do "Caravan" and the Nat sings of the desert sands.... is this the origins of the lyrics someone asked about ? As I recall the Mills Bros. version is skat singing rather than regular lyrics, but the memory here could be off. So hepcats.....who sang the song first ? Allen B. >> author of song: Elligton and Tizol. Song was written WITH the desert sand lyrics. Was appropriated by Rhythm Rockers, Dick Dale and others sans lyrics, reclaimed by the Useless Playboys on Livin' Lounge with original lyrics! it's also one of those songs that's been done a thousand times but sounds different every time and is my nominee for best Exotica song of all time! Think about it! or better yet listen to it! Every version you can get your hands on! Maravillo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark&sarah Subject: Re: orfeo negro Date: 03 Sep 1996 09:15:37 -0500 (CDT) On Sun, 1 Sep 1996 bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com wrote: > > As far as 'hits' are concerned I'm not sure there were any and I don't > believe the film was intended that way. Putting the "Peter Gunn"/"Mr. > Lucky"/"Route 66" exceptions aside, most films back then didn't produce > 'hits' on their soundtracks. > > Bryan actually, both felicidade and manha de carnaval became standards. but do you mean actual soundtrack recordings becoming hits, or the songs themselves? i don't know if the actual recordings from the soundtrack were released as singles. mark > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: legalrender@kinn.com Subject: Duane Eddy Date: 03 Sep 1996 08:44:00 -0800 I just noticed that "Lonely Guitar" is (or was at the start of the year) out on an import CD. Saw an add in a back issue of Golmine that mentioned it. It wasn't cheap but it was there. If anyone is interested I'll see if I can find the add again. Kevin _M_ King IN>Rhino put out a two-CD set of Duane Eddy called Twang Thang IN>a couple of years ago. IN>It includes Rebel Rouser as well as two versions of Peter Gunn IN>(Just Duane, and with Art of Noise). IN>I'd recommend it, as I'm a fan of twangy gitfiddles. IN>I *think* Lonely Guitar is on it, but I'll have to check. IN>That title is awfully familiar. IN>Ray IN># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? IN># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. --- þ SLMR 2.1a þ Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: legalrender@kinn.com Subject: Re: Magazine Date: 03 Sep 1996 08:44:02 -0800 IN>> IN>>From: legalrender@kinn.com IN>> IN>>Subject: Adamson/Peaks/FS LPs IN>> IN>> IN>> IN>>1. Barry Adamson: For those who are not strictly into exotic type thin IN>> IN>>I would urge you to check out his work as bass player with Magazine. IN>> Well, probably "Secondhand Daylight" is my favorite and most likely to IN>> appeal to exotica buffs, being more atmospheric than their others. Alot IN>> of people like their first "Real Life" best and that is hard to argue IN>> against too. IN>Had to pipe in here. I suppose I hold an unpopular opinion that IN>both "The Correct Use of Soap" and the vastly underrated "Magic, IN>Murder and the Weather" are by far their best efforts. The latter IN>still sounds fresh today and is probably the closest they came to IN>anything even remotely 'exotic.' Actually, I love both of those also especially "Correct Use..". I also hold the probably even more unpopular opinion that Devoto's solo and Luxuria stuff is pretty great too. And I agree that they certainly never did anything that was "EXOTIC" just that "Secondhand Daylight" has a kind of Cinematic grandeur and sweep that might appeal to the same people that like alot of the Soundtrack type things. IN>Late Blondie was more exotic, not IN>to mention the Slits or the Raincoats (can just imagine a smooth mix IN>of Return of the Giant Slits, Lyman, Baxter and Odyshape with just a IN>taste of a King Tubby's reggae dub -- oooh nice!) And maybe throw in a little Pop Group too! (Just kidding, I think, hmm....). Kevin _M_ King The Other Kevin King IN>kevin IN># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? IN># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. --- þ SLMR 2.1a þ Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: Dexter Date: 03 Sep 1996 13:17:51 -0400 Does the name,if I have this right, "Dan Dexter" ring a bell? The person of whom I speak was one of Les Baxter's cats, but I know nothing else about him. Please help me in my undying quest, about the grand-daddy-o of them all, IMHO. And forgive me if this is misguided...computer is at work, records at home, memory degenerating daily... Gratefully, patiently, and kindly, Lounge Laura laura@wusf.usf.edu "It's just my nature to do weird stuff..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark&sarah Subject: Re: orfeo negro Date: 03 Sep 1996 12:48:06 -0500 (CDT) On Sun, 1 Sep 1996 Maravillo@aol.com wrote: > It's hard to imagine Orfeo Negro without the incidental "noise" of the crowd > and carnaval. "It throbs with life and with the rhythms of carnaval in Rio," agreed! i really enjoy the sounds, esp. the ones that seem to tug in an opposite direction from the foreground music. and to me it does represent the fate of the lovers tied into the pulse, movement, and finally, death, of the carnaval (ash wednesday looms darkly ahead). > reminder of the gods that > plot the fate of the doomed couple, in this case African gods rather than > Greek. The debut of Antonio Carlos Jobim, Luis Bonfa, and Joao Gilberto as > well as the entire Bossa Nova genre can be traced back to this recording. i don't have my cds here, but wasn't joao gilberto recording bossa nova before this film? i'm thinking of the early recordings collected on the (excellent, sublime, perfect) cd call the legendary joao gilberto. i think his earliest recordings date to 1958, and the movie was released in 1959 (or at least the soundtrack was). again, i can't remember the dates for certain; if these aren't right, i'm sure someone can correct them, or i'll look them up when i get home. but either way, gilberto's debut and orfeo negro's release occurred very close to each other, sometime between 1957-1959. take care, mark great quote from jaoa gilberto: when asked if americans could play bossa nove, gilberto replied, no, americans are too mathematical. they can put a man on the moon, but they will never learn to play bossa nova. our guitarist friend found this quote yesterday, right before we began our first rehearsal as, of course, an american bossa nova band (singing in trained portugese, at least!). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: The Surfmen-Exotic Island Date: 03 Sep 1996 11:41:03 +0000 The Surfmen were not Exoticons BUT were the best of the west coast jazz/pop studio musician scene of the 50's and 60's. To give you a good idea as to who played on the record there was Paul Horn-Flute, Alvino Rey-Steel Guitar, Emil Richards-Vibes, Jack Costanzo-Bongos, Milt Holland-Percussion, Jack Sperling-???, Rolly Bundock-Stand Up String Bass, Al Hendrickson-Electric Guitar, Ann Stockton-Harp or Vocals(not sure on the vocals), Jimmy Rowles- Piano, Sam Weiss-???, Gene Estes-??? Rowles, and Bundock were mainstays in Mancini's Orchestra Alvino Rey had his own orchestra and played with Esquivel Costanzo started out with Stan Kenton and was the 1st Bongo-ist to be featured in a jazz orchestra(1947) and played with all the greats including Pete Rugolo and Henry Mancini among others. Paul Horn was a major west coast jazz man who was a big part of the Chico Hamilton Quartet/Quintet. Emil Richards was before he dropped acid and went _way out_ in the 60's a terrific jazz vibe-ist. They made 2 records on Somerset which was Alshire's budget sister label of which the "straight ahead" exotica sound can be found on Exotic Island and then there's much more of a Hawaiiana sound on a record called (I believe) Sounds of Hawaii. The former IMHO is THE real killer though . They don't really get toooo tribal and rockin', the sound is very smooth and quite nice. Purrfect for seduction Great Bird Calls and Jungle Sounds abound ;-)> Titles include Quiet Village, Tahiti Sunrise, Taboo, Moonlight in Paradise, Moon of Manakoora, Fire Goddess, Luau, Orchid Lagoon, Jungle Romance, Bali Hai, Bamboo, Forbidden Island Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: Something for everyone Date: 03 Sep 1996 14:42:10 -0400 Lounge Laura's Latest from the AP! I love the Rutles! I love the brrrrillllliiiannntt Neil Innis...Tell him to call me! Woo-hoooo! I hope this is going to be good, because if it's anything like SPINAL TAP 2, I give up... laura@wusf.usf.edu A RUTLES REUNION (New York) -- The Rutles are at it again. The group that spoofed the Beatles is coming out with a new C-D called ''Archaeology'' -- a parody of the Beatles' ''Anthology.'' The Rutles -- minus Eric Idle -- will get together in New York tonight to record a single. ''Shangri-La'' will have an all-star chorus that's expected to include Tony Bennett, Oasis, Eartha Kitt, Joey Ramone, Cindy Lauper and Peter Gabriel. The session will be filmed for a video. Virgin Records says the album is due out in late October. It will be the Rutles' first release since 1978's ''All You Need Is Cash.'' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: The Surfmen-Exotic Island Date: 03 Sep 1996 17:05:56 -0400 [Jack, we talked up this ensemble before, but strangely I'm compelled to defend further the exotiploited...the mush-maligned...the ukulele players] >The Surfmen were not Exoticons BUT were the best of the west coast jazz/pop >studio musician scene of the 50's and 60's. How about "should be exoticons AND were...?" My criterion was simply multiple LPs, and anyway the other exoticons were mostly haoles too, whether malihini (mainland) or kamaaina (native). >They made 2 records At least 3. Out of their jackets, all feature some great exotica and Hawaiian standards. "Exotic Island" was reissued in a boring jacket that says "Tradewinds Romance from Hawaii to Tahiti - Recorded in Honolulu - The South Seas Serenaders." The third LP uses the same jacket and sounds similar except for occasional strings, so presumably most of the same people were involved (if not outtakes). Hawaiian War Chant Mahala Pua Hana (something like an ondioline in there) Tahiti Sunrise (different version) Forbidden Island (maybe a different version) Seas of Samoa Aka Tombo Hano Hano Moonlight in Paradise (maybe a different version) Aloha Oe (Just 10 on this record, the bums.) Not to dis your valuable cross-referencing, but Hawaiian fans might get a little hu hu (irate) at the suggestion that the mainland C&W and jazz session careers of guys like Alvino Rey, Roy Smeck, Jerry Byrd, and just about everybody else who played steel, were more important than their contributions to the hula. Hawaii, you see, let these noble haoles in on the technology in the first place! Ono vibrations, Tony "Bad Tiki" Wilds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: legalrender@kinn.com Subject: Duane Eddy Date: 03 Sep 1996 08:44:00 -0800 I just noticed that "Lonely Guitar" is (or was at the start of the year) out on an import CD. Saw an add in a back issue of Golmine that mentioned it. It wasn't cheap but it was there. If anyone is interested I'll see if I can find the add again. Kevin _M_ King IN>Rhino put out a two-CD set of Duane Eddy called Twang Thang IN>a couple of years ago. IN>It includes Rebel Rouser as well as two versions of Peter Gunn IN>(Just Duane, and with Art of Noise). IN>I'd recommend it, as I'm a fan of twangy gitfiddles. IN>I *think* Lonely Guitar is on it, but I'll have to check. IN>That title is awfully familiar. IN>Ray IN># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? IN># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. --- þ SLMR 2.1a þ Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Magazine, a Devotional Date: 03 Sep 1996 18:00:00 -0400 "Play" is a great live album. Devoto's appearance as Luxuria at DC's old 9:30 club was largely a Magazine fest, and perhaps the best of a hundreds of shows I saw there over a decade. Devoto founded the Buzzcocks (he's on the "Spiral Scratch" EP) and clearly was more capable than Shelley, the hall-of-famer "Singles Going Steady" notwithstanding. The reunited Buzzcocks under Shelley fulfilled a dream by playing "Harmony in My Head" at the 9:30, but surprisingly, Camper Van Beethoven beat them to it and did it slightly better! "Come and be...out of shape with me," Tony "Equal Opportunity Heresy" Wilds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Tahitian bossa nova! Date: 03 Sep 1996 19:40:23 -0400 Have some "tamure" LPs on the want list, but who knew this'd be such a surprise: "Tamoure: the new dance rage from Tahiti," on Fontana, played by Carlos Rubio & his Orchestra, has seven great bossa novas and five of the best Tahitian dance songs ever. Six songs have vocals, deep male and high female. Yes, there is guitar. Every tune is GREAT. Who knew? Arthur Lyman's "Aloha Amigos" got nothing on this. You can, like, twist to this exotica. Wall of Fame candidate. (Bought at a US15 yard sale somewhere in PA out of a box of water-damaged records. Scrubbed some other record's dissolved jacket off it.) Tony "yes, excited" Wilds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patrick@xpedite.com (Patrick Cashin) Subject: Re: ad music Date: 03 Sep 1996 22:30:42 EDT ----- Begin Included Message ----- dunno if this is a question better suited for the cowabunga list, but does anyone know who does the music to that Levi's fifth pocket commercial(the one with the pool cleaner and the Goldfinger/Live and Let Die bad guys). It sounds like the Shadows set to a jungle groove. just curious, Maravillo ----- End Included Message ----- There is a COWABUNGA list? Where? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jay Watterworth Subject: Re: laser turntable - info? (fwd) Date: 03 Sep 1996 12:59:01 -0600 (MDT) More on the laser turntable...... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Jay Watterworth (watterwo@SOBEK.COLORADO.EDU) wrote: : does anyone have information on this turntable? : : ---------- Forwarded message ---------- : Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 11:11:24 -0400 : From: Tony Wilds : To: exotica@xmission.com : Subject: laser turntable - info? : : This may be a certified crank item, but: : : Anyone have any hard data on the mythical laser turntable? [It supposedly : plays even taped, gunked, and rough vinyl like a CD, with all that fancy : error-correction business.] Does this beast exist for real? : : Manufacturer(s), current and projected price, specs? Output in digital and : analog? : : Last I heard, the price had halved from $18K to 9K; when it does a few times : more, time to pounce on that puppy. Thar's gold in them thar broken shards : of 78s. : : Tony "digital prospector" Wilds : it is not a myth at all. it was developed at least 10 years ago by an outfilt called finial technology near san jose ca. they gave up on it when it became obvious that the retail price would have to be in the 20,000 area. the rights and technology were sold to a japanese firm. i have heard that it is now owned by a company in the oregon or washington area. they do have a website, but i cannot recall it. when finial was in operation they did make at least a few machines. supposedly had error correction circuitry of some kind to eliminate ticks, pops, noise in general, but i never saw a full fledged review of how well it worked. i assume the american company now owning the rights is in production on at least a limited basis, but cannot prove it. try posting an inquiry to the "audio high end " newsgroup. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jay Watterworth Subject: Re: laser turntable - info? (fwd) Date: 03 Sep 1996 13:05:51 -0600 (MDT) more of the same ---------- Forwarded message ---------- stefan.kery@mailbox.swipnet.se (STEFAN KERY) wrote: > There was a demo version circulating conventions a few years back. Never saw > or heard it but the word was that it had lots of bugs. They should have > fixed that by now...maybe the product was to good? It certainly would turn > both the CD and used record market upside down. > Stefan/Subliminal Sounds > > >This may be a certified crank item, but: > > > >Anyone have any hard data on the mythical laser turntable? [It supposedly > >plays even taped, gunked, and rough vinyl like a CD, with all that fancy > >error-correction business.] Does this beast exist for real? > > > >Manufacturer(s), current and projected price, specs? Output in digital and > >analog? > > > >Last I heard, the price had halved from $18K to 9K; when it does a few times > >more, time to pounce on that puppy. Thar's gold in them thar broken shards > >of 78s. > > > >Tony "digital prospector" Wilds The laser turntable is made by Finial. Basically, although it sorta functions, it sounds really badly. Part of the problem is that the laser only examines the surface of the grooves. When playing an actual lp, the interface of the stylus and the groove creates a great deal of friction which is dissipated as heat. This heat causes the vinyl to actually become fluid. The sound you hear is produced not by the surface of the groove, but rather by the solid part of the groove that is underneath the "fluid" layer of the vinyl. It can hardly track a new record. Forget about some of those Salvation Army specials used for cleaning pot. Save your cash, and buy more music. Jonathan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jay Watterworth Subject: ART RUPE/SPECIALTY RECORDS TRIBUTE 0) INTRODUCTION (fwd) Date: 03 Sep 1996 19:45:59 -0600 (MDT) fyi ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Dear Blues-L(and) : Art Rupe, legendary record producer & founder of SPECIALTY RECORDS, will be 79 on Thursday, September 5th. His very first taste of the record business occurred when he joined songwriter, record producer & fellow UCLA graduate Robert Scherman (b. 1920/June/14, Indianapolis, IN) in setting up ATLAS RECORDS in 1944. Atlas Records issued some of the 1st recordings by The Nat King Cole Trio, Johnny Moore's Three Blazers with Charles Brown, Al Sack and Frankie Laine. It was a short stay (4 months), just long enough to convince Arthur Goldberg (Rupe's real name) that he wanted to start up his own label, JUKE BOX RECORDS. According to the 1946/August/10 Billboard issue, Rupe's share of JUKE BOX was sold to Al Middleman (of Sterling Records) who had joined him a few months earlier. According to the agreement signed, Rupe kept the masters he produced on Roy Milton, The Sepia Tones and The Buddy Banks Sextet (with The Blues Man and The Blues Woman). Futhermore, Al Middleman could not order any more pressings made after June 18, 1946, and after Juke Box disposes of their inventory, Rupe's new label - SPECIALTY RECORDS - would press the sides exclusively. Middleman continued the JUKE BOX Records from his New York City office. In the next few days, I'll be posting the following 20 or so tributes to ART RUPE/SPECIALTY RECORDS. All the CDs will be reviewed, and are available from the FANTASY Records < and ACE Records Web sites. 1) A JUKE BOX RECORDS DISCOGRAPHY 2) A SPECIALTY RECORDS "500" SERIES DISCOGRAPHY 3) A FIDELITY RECORDS DISCOGRAPHY 4) A LIST OF SPECIALTY RECORDS' TOP 5 R&B HITS 5) THE SPECIALTY CD SERIES : REVIEWS a)-n) (14 postings!) (broken down according to artists, gospel, New Orleans, vocal grp, etc) 6) PERSONAL TRIBUTES : a)-b) (2 postings) 7) COMPLETE SPECIALTY CD DISCOGRAPHY I would like to thank Art Schuna, Jyrki Ilva, LEE SPECTOR, Tom Morgan and Bill Shute, Gary Jones for their help. All these postings are dedicated to J. W. Alexander (1916/JAN/21-1996/JUL/09), gospel songwriter & founding member of The Pilgrim Travelers. The whole tribute will be archived on BLUESWEB . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phaser@wolfenet.com (Thom S. Heileson) Subject: Macarena, Bell Book & Candle Date: 03 Sep 1996 23:24:43 -0700 >From: LTepedino@aol.com >Subject: Re: trends in exotica? > >Let's hope not...by the way if there's ever a reason not to vote for the >Democrats this election it is because of their taste in music...The Macarena >and tunes from Chicago YEEEEAAAAACCCCHHHH!!!! Well it's better than Travis Tritt (played at the Republican convention)!! BTW, did anyone see the episode of David Letterman from a couple weeks back where one of Dave's scroungy-looking stage managers comes into the studio doing the Macarena and an annoyed Letterman dumps him into the Hudson but later he comes back looking like the living dead swamp thing, still incessantly doing the dance from hell? Um, it was funny... (<--Chris Farley Vox) ObExotica: I want to thank whoever on this list it was who recommended the movie "Bell, Book & Candle" -- we rented it over the weekend and it was indeed fab. Witches as Beatniks, who could ask for more! It's very obvious the producers of the show "Bewitched" got their idea from this movie, though it's also quite different from the show. There are some _great_ early-electronic spacey sounds used whilst magic is being done... anyone know who did these and if there is a soundtrack with these sound effects? Merc! (Apologies for the lengthy .sig -- I can't seem to get Eudora to stop attaching it like I should be able to...) + + + + + + Thom S. Heileson_/_/_/ + + _/_/_/ + @@@@ -@@@@@@- oR _/_/_/ @@ @@ -@@@@@@@@@- _/_/_/ + @@ @@ @@@@@@@@@@@ [antiAxiomaticism Unlimited] _/_/_/_ + @@ @@ -@@@ _/_/_/_/ @@ @@ -@@ @@@@@@@ phASER@wolfenet.com _/_/_/_/ + @@@@@ -@@@ @@@@@@@ _/_/_/_/ -@@@@ @@@@@@- heilts1@mpe11.ghc.org_/_/_/_/ ++___+@@@@@@ @@@@@- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joerg Nijmeijer" Subject: Re: The Throbber Date: 04 Sep 1996 13:30:53 +0000 On 30 Aug 96 at 23:58, Jay Watterworth wrote: > Your msg reminded me of the Fugs (whom you referred to in your > closing). I saw them a couple time when they played the village in > the mid-60s and fondly remember "I couldn't get high" as well as > some of their other "observations". As Bob Hope would have sung, > "Thanks for the memories"! Jay Watterworth CU Boulder (...) > > Long live the Fugs. I think, at least Tuli Kupferberg is still active, I see records or compilation-contributions by him every once in a while. (e.g. the wonderful "dear m." with good old Allen Ginsberg) I bought their debut-album years ago "by accident" and was totally amazed. I never heard such weird lyrics and thought, I've found the world's worst musicians. (Now I know: the Godz' debut is far worse!) They improved their musical skills with the following albums (but not too much ... :o) ) Anyone remember "Nothing" ? This is one of my alltime favourites. Speaking of hippie-music: kind of related to the fugs/godz-stuff is the "hapshash and the coloured coat featuring the human host and the heavy metal kids" ('68). This is hell of an artist-name. joerg "sunday nothing, monday nothing, tuesday and wednesday nothing, friday for a change a little more nothing, saturday once more nothing" Joerg Nijmeijer @ Groove Attack Records --------------------------------------- "Censorship is a very unfunky thing !!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kenneth H Ellzey" Subject: Re: The Throbber Date: 04 Sep 1996 09:40:50 -0400 On Sep 4, 1:30pm, Joerg Nijmeijer wrote: > Subject: Re: The Throbber > On 30 Aug 96 at 23:58, Jay Watterworth wrote: > > Your msg reminded me of the Fugs (whom you referred to in your > > closing). I saw them a couple time when they played the village in > > the mid-60s and fondly remember "I couldn't get high" as well as > > some of their other "observations". As Bob Hope would have sung, > > "Thanks for the memories"! Jay Watterworth CU Boulder > (...) > > > Long live the Fugs. > > I think, at least Tuli Kupferberg is still active, I see records or > compilation-contributions by him every once in a while. > (e.g. the wonderful "dear m." with good old Allen Ginsberg) > > I bought their debut-album years ago "by accident" and was totally > amazed. I never heard such weird lyrics and thought, I've found > the world's worst musicians. (Now I know: the Godz' debut is far worse!) > They improved their musical skills with the following albums > (but not too much ... :o) ) The Fugs do live! Check out the Ed Sanders interview and Fugs article found at: http://www.sonic.net/~goblin/three.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rohn Matthies Subject: Re: Bewitched/ Bell Book & Candle Date: 04 Sep 1996 08:34:01 -0700 Hmmmmmmmm -- I'd be inclined to suggest that "Bewitched" owed more to an ealier film -- "I married a Witch" -- late 30's or so than BB&C. Just a thought. Rohn. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elin_T@lubio.bib.lu.se (Elin Thome) Subject: Hugo Montenegro Date: 04 Sep 1996 19:13:04 +0200 Hello, Is there anybody who has got a discography of what Hugo Montenegro has recorded. Some of the things he has done is really brilliant. For example the "Good Vibrations" album. I also have "People...one to one", "Hugo in Wonder-land", "Scenes & Themes" and "Colour of Love", "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly". I wonder if there is more of him as good as these ones? Please let me know if You know. Dj Lillian. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: trends in exotica? Date: 04 Sep 1996 15:29:08 -0400 At 08:59 PM 9/2/96 -0500, you wrote: >> The 'Macarena' will go the way the 'Achy-Breaky' went, into >> oblivion.....(yes!) > >Just be sure to hold on to those Electric Slide records! > >still doin' the Smurf, >kevin No thanks Kevin. I couldn't stand Billy Ray Cyrus' mumbling then, and I still can't stand it now. Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Hugo Montenegro Date: 04 Sep 1996 16:52:30 -0400 At 07:13 PM 9/4/96 +0200, you wrote: >Is there anybody who has got a discography of Hugo Montenegro Try the Exotica Standards web site: http://www.netrail.net/~bbigelow/homepage.html "Cha Chas for Dancing" is good. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dragstr@earthlink.net (David Schafer) Subject: Re: Hugo Montenegro Date: 04 Sep 1996 18:52:00 -0700 (PDT) >Dj Lillian. wrote on: Wed, 4 Sep 96 19:13:04 >Is there anybody who has got a discography of what >Hugo Montenegro has recorded. Some of the things he has done is really >brilliant. For example the "Good Vibrations" album. I also have >"People...one to one", "Hugo in Wonder-land", "Scenes & Themes" and "Colour >of Love", "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly". I wonder if there is more of him >as good as these ones? Please let me know if You know. Lillian, your question aroused my curiosity. Hugo is someone who could actually have an interesting amount a material. This ain't no disco--graphy! Hugo was/is (anyone know?) a prolific arranger who contributed to schmultz, cheese, disco, soul, easy, pop, psych, what's left? I know I have passed LP's of his up in the bins, esp the early easy ones, but the late 60's and 70's can be very entertaining. Actually Candy's Themes is rather haunting and good with the 'I Dream of Jeannie' theme on it somewhere. The LP's concept is musical portraits of women and girls (teenagers) with song titles like: Candy's Theme, Kitten, Fanny, Amber, etc. The liner notes tell us more than we want to know about Hugo. Is there something in REsearch on Him? I was able to pull these out, anyone care to add any? Maybe this is already posted somewhere. Loves of My Life 1957 In a Sentimental Mood 1962 Candy's Theme and Other Sweets 1965 Music from "A Fistfull of Dollars" and "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly" 1968 Moog Power 1969 Good Vibrations 1969 Dawn of Dylan 1970 People ...One to One 1971 This is Hugo Montenegro 1971 Neil's Diamonds 1973 Hugo in Wonder-land 1974 Rocket Man 1975 Others by Brothers 1975 Arriba! (no date) These were mentioned on the back of Candy's Theme. The Young Beat of Rome (no date) Russian Grandeur (no date) listening to Others by Brothers...weowww weooow! bye, David Arriba! no date # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bodiodo@aol.com Subject: Re: Author of Caravan Date: 04 Sep 1996 22:26:24 -0400 Howdy, Maravillo! In a message dated 96-09-03 03:26:04 EDT, you wrote: > it's also one of those songs that's been done a thousand times but > sounds different every time and is my nominee for best Exotica song of all > time! Great bits of history in the early part of your message, really enjoyed it! C aravan really would be a top contender for best Exotica song of all time. But I have to admit that I'm really partial to Martin Denny's rendition of Qu iet Village as the definiative Exotica song of all time. Tough call! Hey! How about Midnight Sun for best Lounge song of all time? That one would be hard to top, no? Beau di Audeau # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Swampey@aol.com Subject: Bell Book & Candle Date: 04 Sep 1996 22:43:17 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-04 02:24:49 EDT, you write: > >ObExotica: I want to thank whoever on this list it was who recommended the >movie "Bell, Book & Candle" -- we rented it over the weekend and it was >indeed fab. Witches as Beatniks, who could ask for more! Yayyyyyy! I'm glad you liked the movie. It's one of my personal faves >There are some _great_ early-electronic spacey sounds used whilst magic is >being done... anyone know who did these and if there is a soundtrack with >these sound effects? Jack Diamond mentioned that he has the soundtrack and I'm sure he can give you the scoop on all of the cool sounds. Take care, Lisa # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: Re: Hugo Montenegro Date: 04 Sep 1996 23:48:08 -0400 His music for LADY IN CEMENT is very cool indeedy... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: what price exotica? Date: 05 Sep 1996 04:17:27 GMT just left bleecker bob's hoping to avoid the dreaded one, but no, i got cornered. bob's trying to push that "genius of esquivel" goes for $400.00! "best of broadway musical hits" (with betty page cover, terrible music) is on the wall for $350.00! one thing i will say though is that he's got most of those twofer exotica bootleg cd's. they are blatantly mastered from vinyl (ie no real masters), but they may be as close as you can get to the likes of "music out of the moon," "skin diver suite," "the passions," and "esquivel 1968," among others. i think that every other store is afraid to sell these things. anybody know anything about their background? Request Records? jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BGlennii@aol.com Subject: Re: what price exotica? Date: 05 Sep 1996 09:04:16 -0400 Jack, You are right indeed that those 2-on-1 CDs are bootlegs, and most dealers are reluctant to sell them. I'm told that the folks at RCA and Capitol weren't too pleased! I'm also told that they're being made somewhere in California. The label address is bogus. All in all, they're pretty darn good, don't you think? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BGlennii@aol.com Subject: Re: trends in exotica? Date: 05 Sep 1996 09:05:02 -0400 Let's hope the Macarena goes sooner than later. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com Subject: Re: what price exotica? Date: 05 Sep 1996 09:13:04 -0400 Having experienced Bleecker Bob personally years ago, I refuse to enter the store. He had a habit of picking fights with male customers and then putting his dog ( i think it was a doberman) into attack mode. He would laugh as the guy went running out of the place. The women he would just hit on relentlessly until they left. Of course the prices alone would be enough to keep one from going in. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jbatutis@AMEXPUB.COM (Joe Batutis) Subject: What Price Exotica? Date: 05 Sep 1996 10:04:49 -0400 Hi there: Bleeker Bob's is not the only place in NYC to get those two-fer exotica bootlegs. I've seen them at Footlights, Smash, Venus, and Kim's. (Venus on St, Marks has the most) WFMU even sold a few of them for a while, but I believe they ran out. In other news: While up in Boston I got this great italian two-fer of Dean Martin French style/ Deano Latino. Dean at his swanky best, and only $14! The sound isn't perfect, but the tunes and arrangements by Don Costa and Neal Hefti are hep. -Joe B. http://www.amexpub.com/jbatutis/noddmusic/oddmusic.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clark Draper Subject: Yma in DC! Date: 05 Sep 1996 10:59:16 -0400 I just got the new City Paper and the Birchmere calendar has Yma Sumac appearing at the club on September 28! I've never been to the Birchmere, and normally don't look at their schedule as they usually have acts that I have no desire in seeing (folk and whatever, I'm sure it's real good, just not my cup of tea). So imagine my surprise to see Ms. Sumac's name on the calendar. So, if your in the DC area, and I know some of you are, I'll see you there. The other Clark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: dexter again Date: 05 Sep 1996 11:13:09 -0400 Ok, Ok...I was wrong on the name, knew it! It's not "Dan" Dexter about whom I was inquiring...it was DAVE DEXTER...Now, for you exotica-types, he did some stuff with Les Baxter...and to you Bomp!-types, he was also involved with American-releases of early Beatles stuff...So, the lists oddly converge(as oft they do!) A Beatles-Baxter connection, via Dexter! BUT THAT'S ALL I KNOW! And I need you philes to help me piece the rest of this together... HELP@! Lounge Laura "It's just my nature to do weird stuff..." laura@wusf.usf.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cscheffy@kinglet.Berkeley.EDU (Clark Scheffy) Subject: Re: The Surfmen-Exotic Island Date: 05 Sep 1996 09:36:10 PDT I have to add my two cents to the Surfmen discussion... I would have to say that the Surfmen also incorporated the best most freakish human-bird calls of any exotica record. You really feel the bird's emotions as he/she is perched on the verge of something dangerous and psychotic. Clark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cscheffy@kinglet.Berkeley.EDU (Clark Scheffy) Subject: Beat Girl Date: 05 Sep 1996 09:40:06 PDT So I now have listened to the CD soundtrack from this movie countless times and love it, especially the line "Cool as a lager beer, Beat Girl!" It doesn't get any more kicks. Now, does anyone know where to get the movie? No place I've talked to seems to have it, this is including two video stores in San Francisco which claim to have all the hard-to-find movies... Any help? Clark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: love that Chilean Orchestra Date: 05 Sep 1996 13:05:34 -0400 Does anyone have info on the availability of the ORGY OF THE DEAD soundtrack? Need it! Now! Stars the CHILEAN ORCHESTRA or the like... Help! Ayuda! Lounge Laura laura@wusf.usf.edu "It's just my nature to do weird stuff..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: Re: Beat Girl Date: 05 Sep 1996 13:04:00 -0400 RE>Beat Girl 9/5/96 Lounge Laura here, with unfortunate news...Scored BEAT GIRL in a CAMELOT MUSIC cut-out bin in Mobile, Alabama about 5 years ago...But maybe SOMETHING WEIRD or even RHINO(?) has released it? Dunno, but do know it has recently been a cut-out.. Lo Siento :^( laura@wusf.usf.edu So I now have listened to the CD soundtrack from this movie countless times and love it, especially the line "Cool as a lager beer, Beat Girl!" It doesn't get any more kicks. Now, does anyone know where to get the movie? No place I've talked to seems to have it, this is including two video stores in San Francisco which claim to have all the hard-to-find movies... Any help? Clark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Chilson Subject: Re: Beat Girl Date: 05 Sep 1996 10:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Clark.....are you referring to Le Video in SF? I'm surprised they don't have it! Anyhow, I found a really clean copy of Beat Girl at a place called Suncoast Video here in San Diego. If ya can't find it anywhere, lemme know and maybe we can arrange something.....good luck, John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: what price exotica? Date: 05 Sep 1996 17:52:35 GMT On Sep 05, 1996 09:04:16, 'BGlennii@aol.com' wrote: >Jack, > >You are right indeed that those 2-on-1 CDs are bootlegs, and most dealers are >reluctant to sell them. I'm told that the folks at RCA and Capitol weren't >too pleased! I'm also told that they're being made somewhere in California. >The label address is bogus. > >All in all, they're pretty darn good, don't you think? Well, as i said, they sound as if they were mastered off lp's. You can hear the turntable rumble. On the other hand, they filled in some gaps in my collection. It is interesting to compare the 101 Strings "astro-sounds from the year 2000" to the current official release on scamp. the scamp release features excellent mastering techniques, great liner notes, and even three previously unreleased cuts. these guys are doing it right! with companies like scamp around, hopefully we won't need these bootlegs anymore. as everyone seems to concur on this forum, this music needs to be accessible. jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: B B & C Date: 05 Sep 1996 10:59:50 +0000 >ObExotica: I want to thank whoever on this list it was who recommended the >movie "Bell, Book & Candle" -- we rented it over the weekend and it was >indeed fab. Witches as Beatniks, who could ask for more! >There are some _great_ early-electronic spacey sounds used whilst magic is >being done... anyone know who did these and if there is a soundtrack with >these sound effects? Thom, I don't know who reccomended it BUT I've been playing it on my show for the past month or so and to answer your quyestion in a word...YES there was a soundtrack released BUT it is extremely rare ;) It's on Colpix I did happen to see one for sale last week for 60 bucks but I passed on it. I wasn't feeling that rich that day ;)) It's worth it though! Bye for now, Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maravillo@aol.com Subject: Re: Author of Caravan Date: 05 Sep 1996 13:57:06 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-04 22:33:42 EDT, you write: << But I have to admit that I'm really partial to Martin Denny's rendition of Qu iet Village as the definiative Exotica song of all time. Tough call! >> Beau- Imagine Denny's take on Caravan! Heaven on Earth! I'm just trying to figure out what kinda bird-calls one would hear in the desert... Exotically, Maravillo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: what price exotica? Date: 05 Sep 1996 17:57:53 GMT On Sep 05, 1996 09:13:04, 'HOUSEOBOB@aol.com' wrote: >Having experienced Bleecker Bob personally years ago, I refuse to enter the >store. He had a habit of picking fights with male customers and then putting >his dog ( i think it was a doberman) into attack mode. He would laugh as the >guy went running out of the place. The women he would just hit on >relentlessly until they left. Of course the prices alone would be enough to >keep one from going in. yeah, bob's a mess. he used to glare at me at the sixth avenue flea markets when he saw me snatching up some gems from the bins that he could have thrown $40.00 price tags on. an interesting observation, however, he claims that exotica/sabpm is and always has been his main interest in collecting records. wonder if it's true. i can see the ad in audio carpaetorium now. "what type of man listens to space-age bachelor pas music?" jack ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: What Price Exotica? Date: 05 Sep 1996 17:59:39 GMT On Sep 05, 1996 10:04:49, 'jbatutis@AMEXPUB.COM (Joe Batutis)' wrote: >Hi there: > >Bleeker Bob's is not the only place in NYC to get those two-fer exotica >bootlegs. I've seen them at Footlights, Smash, Venus, and Kim's. (Venus on St, >Marks has the most) WFMU even sold a few of them for a while, but I believe >they >ran out. or did they stop selling them? jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: The ultimate cool wordless vocal outfit Date: 05 Sep 1996 11:36:40 +0000 The Nutty Squirrels!! What ?? You say you've never heard of the Nutty Squirrels ??? The Nutty Squirrels made 3 records. I have _had_ all of them BUT I really love their first as their best for me I sold the 2nd one awhile ago but someone made a home made CD for me of it and if I ever want to listen to it it's there. Picture if you will The Chipmunks Sound with a bit of a different tone and they sing wordless jazz/pop vocals. They swing like all hell and the ballads are tooooooooooo cool. Man o man o man o man!!! This is really amazing schtuff The musicians were all the greats of the studio jazz scene like Cannonball Adderly and Frank Socolow on Alto Saxes, Romeo Penque-Flute This is a _very_ beatnik cool sound of jazz that is _very_ POP oriented. They actually had a HIT from their 1st lp released on Hanover in 1959 with Uh Oh Pt. 2. Hanover was also the label that released Jack Kerouac's LP The Beat Generation and there are some other _Extremely Rare_ beatnik poet records on Hanover. They do Dizzy Gillespies "Salt Peanuts" and Bang Bang! which is kind of a crime jazz wordless vocal. Very very que-ell The chipmunks came first and the Nutty Squirrels are primarily the genius of Don Elliot who was a 1st rate jazz musician who played many instruments including trumpet, bongos, mellophone which looks like a French Horn but sounds like a cross between a french horn and a trombone. A much fatter french horn sound. He's also a top rated vocalist who did some crazy overdub type recordings on Decca that all of the parts instrumentally and vocally are him. He looks _very cool_ too ;) Sunglasses in the studio and everything;)) The other voice is Sascha Burland who wrote TV and Radio commercial jingles of the 50's and 60's and who's the guy who wrote No Matter What Shape Your Stomach's In (Alka Seltzer) that became a HUGE HIT in the 60's Their 2nd record was on a major label (Columbia) and is called The Nutty Squirrels Go Bird Watching and all of the titles are Bird names/songs like Flamingo, Sparrow in the Tree Top, That's Owl (That's All) and stuff like that there. It's a bit too much for me but for comedy/novelty lovers, well they say that the 2nd album is pure genius and the music I must admit IS incredible Then there's The Nutty Squirrels Sing A Hard Day's Night...No Comment as I'm not really into the comedy/novelty aspect of things. The 1st album is really the one for me. The ultimate wordless vocals are The Nutty Squirrels!!! Bye for now, Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maravillo@aol.com Subject: Re: ad music Date: 04 Sep 1996 14:12:07 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-03 22:37:09 EDT, you write: << There is a COWABUNGA list? Where? >> Send a message to listserv@ucsd.edu, include, in the body of the message subscribe patrick@xpedite.com cowabunga See you there! Maravillo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Heileson, Thomas" Subject: Gilbertos Date: 04 Sep 1996 11:38:00 PDT >great quote from jaoa gilberto: when asked if americans could play bossa >nove, gilberto replied, no, americans are too mathematical. they can put >a man on the moon, but they will never learn to play bossa nova. our >guitarist friend found this quote yesterday, right before we began our >first rehearsal as, of course, an american bossa nova band (singing in >trained portugese, at least!). A Very Naive question: What is the relation between Jaoa and Astrud? Merc, Thom # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HIFI Subject: hifigram#1 Date: 04 Sep 1996 17:51:00 -0500 i have compile a press release/upcoming release schedule of the hifi label in an e-mail hifigram. it is rather long and would muck up the fine dialogue within this list. anyone wanting to receive this and future hifigrams, should e-mail me at hifi@rykodisc.com. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ David Greenberg hifi@rykodisc.com HIFI/Rykodisc Shetland Park 27 Congress St. Salem MA 01915 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: what price exotica? Date: 05 Sep 1996 19:38:02 +0000 Thats funny about Bleeker Boob,he cornered me to get one of those twofer cd's "there great, you cant't get them ... blah ,blah, blah" what an anoying guy. JPM http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ Vocod'o'rama http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocolist.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@nyc.pipeline.com (lou smith) Subject: Re: Author of Caravan Date: 05 Sep 1996 23:54:16 GMT On Sep 05, 1996 13:57:06, 'Maravillo@aol.com' wrote: >In a message dated 96-09-04 22:33:42 EDT, you write: > ><< But I have to admit that I'm really partial to Martin Denny's rendition of >Qu >iet Village as the definiative Exotica song of all time. Tough call! >> > >Beau- Imagine Denny's take on Caravan! Heaven on Earth! I'm just trying to >figure out what kinda bird-calls one would hear in the desert... > >Exotically, >Maravillo Roadrunners, of course. --Lou (meep meep) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bodiodo@aol.com Subject: Re: Author of Caravan Date: 06 Sep 1996 00:21:48 -0400 Maravillo, Sandpipers, of course! Tweedle-loo Beau # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David M. Tobin" Subject: Re: Author of Caravan Date: 06 Sep 1996 00:19:07 -0700 Certainly one of the more interesting renditions of Caravan appears on Arther Lyman's "Taboo" - David At 01:57 PM 9/5/96 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 96-09-04 22:33:42 EDT, you write: > ><< But I have to admit that I'm really partial to Martin Denny's rendition of >Qu > iet Village as the definiative Exotica song of all time. Tough call! >> > >Beau- Imagine Denny's take on Caravan! Heaven on Earth! I'm just trying to >figure out what kinda bird-calls one would hear in the desert... > >Exotically, >Maravillo > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David M. Tobin" Subject: Re: Gilbertos Date: 06 Sep 1996 00:22:30 -0700 At 11:38 AM 9/4/96 PDT, you wrote: > >>great quote from jaoa gilberto: when asked if americans could play bossa >>nove, gilberto replied, no, americans are too mathematical. they can put >>a man on the moon, but they will never learn to play bossa nova. our >>guitarist friend found this quote yesterday, right before we began our >>first rehearsal as, of course, an american bossa nova band (singing in >>trained portugese, at least!). > >A Very Naive question: > >What is the relation between Jaoa and Astrud? >Isn't she his daughter? - David >Merc, >Thom > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chrysler Mighuel Stewart" Subject: Re: Hugo Montenegro Date: 06 Sep 1996 00:58:04 -0700 Bom Dia! Rev. Chrysler Mighuel Stewart here! About Hugo Montenegro... Well, I tell you, when I was young once, I found a copy of "More Music from The Man From U.N.C.L.E." conducted by Noneother. (H-U-G-O) I immediately fell in love, especially with the cool, suave first track, "Sandals Only." In fact, I was so Hypnotized by the song, that I wrote and produced a series of five Highly Successful plays, Sandals Only I-V. Each dealt with some manner of sophistication and bourgeoise. They featured some of the finest music the era had to offer, including Al Ciaola, Les Baxter, and others. (I particularly enjoyed Sandals Only II, in which the 1962 World's Fair in Seattle, Washington was showcased...) Anyway, the point is, Hugo Montenegro... Having heard Sandals Only, and the rest of the U.N.C.L.E. lineup, I thought that this Montenegro character must be a pretty good composer, and figured I had ought to look him up. It did not take long, searching the record stores of Seattle to come up with a "Best of Montenegro" Double album-type deal. "Great!" I thought to myself, "Two whole records of the best of Montenegro!!!" However, When I arrived at my flat, and cracked open the record, I found that it had very little resemblance to the Montenegro of the U.N.C.L.E. Soundtrack at all, infact, I wondered whether this was the same Montenegro at all... U.N.C.L.E. was so sophisticated, and the rest of his stuff seemed so... so... I don't know- traditional, I suppose... I'm not sure... Anyway... I was just curious whether anyone else has had this sort of experience with Montenegro, and whether there is any thing else that can hold a flame to U.N.C.L.E. By the Grace of God, Reverend Chrysler Mighuel Stewart pettit@cnw.com http://www.cnw.com/~pettit/ (PS: I saw Combustible Edison play at Bumbershoot in Seattle on Labour Day, and of course it was ULTRA BOSS! I took LOTS of pictures, which I intend to post when I get them developed- Let me know if anyone is interested...) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RogerScho@aol.com Subject: Re: Comustible Edison Date: 06 Sep 1996 07:58:00 -0400 Hi Rev. Chrysler, YEAH: I saw Combustible Edision in Offenbach (near Frankfurt/Germany) some months ago on their European Tour. What a great gig they played, absolutely incredible, I think far better than the records: the sounds from the keyboards are fantastic as the whole band, and the moods they "generated". Great you made some pictures, I didn't, this was a fault. BTW are there some good clubs (or record stores) in Seattle, cause I'm there in October, I just heard of the Toe Club. Bye & greetings from Frankfurt +++roger+++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EdCoyne@aol.com Subject: Re: Gilbertos Date: 06 Sep 1996 09:22:21 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-06 03:50:06 EDT, you write: << if americans could play bossa >>nove, gilberto replied, no, americans are too mathematical >> He had to be saying this tongue in cheek. For instance guitarist Charlie Byrd has been playing great Bossa Nova for 30+ years. Joao is Astrud's former husband. By the way, some of Astrud's numbers from the '60s album "A Certain Smile, a Certain Sadness" are included on the recent CD rerelease of Walter Wanderley cuts called "Bossa Nova Swing." EdCoyne # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@nyc.pipeline.com (lou smith) Subject: Re: what price exotica? Date: 06 Sep 1996 14:13:00 GMT On Sep 05, 1996 09:04:16, 'BGlennii@aol.com' wrote: >You are right indeed that those 2-on-1 CDs are bootlegs, and most dealers are >reluctant to sell them. I'm told that the folks at RCA and Capitol weren't >too pleased! I'm also told that they're being made somewhere in California. >The label address is bogus. > >All in all, they're pretty darn good, don't you think? If you look at the inner 'groove' area of the data (shiny) side of the CD, on the Astro Sounds/YS disc anyway, you can find that they were pressed at Discotronics. The interesting thing is you will also see the letters 'IFPI' which indicates membership in an international anti-piracy organization. And, Yeah, all in all 'they' did a fabulous job. Lou Smith # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: Hugo Montenegro Date: 06 Sep 1996 11:51:19 -0500 Chrysler Mighuel Stewart wrote: > I wondered > whether this was the same Montenegro at all... U.N.C.L.E. was so > sophisticated, and the rest of his stuff seemed so... so... I don't > know- traditional, I suppose... I'm not sure... Anyway... I was just > curious whether anyone else has had this sort of experience with > Montenegro, and whether there is any thing else that can hold a > flame to U.N.C.L.E. Hey Rev, U.N.C.L.E. blew me away too! And likewise, I've found very little else that has left as much an impression. After being persuaded by Jack, I've grown to like Lady In Cement a lot. The Good, Bad and Ugly bargain cd released recently was a disappointment, although fans of the Hellers and Spaced Out might find it worth a listen (bad comparison, maybe). There are a few tracks on his Time Records Process 70 Lp that keep me from discarding it - Palm Canyon Drive in particular. I also have a three record set comp of Time Records that includes some great tunes (some of which might be his, don't have all the packaging, but he's there somewhere). In general, everything I've heard seems fairly hit or miss, varying between screaming syrupy strings (Fantasy Impromptu ain't bad) and tv action/spy. What has he written besides Lady In Cement and My Love? None of the tunes on either U.N.C.L.E. Lps is written by Montenegro. kevin king xanadu@radix.net http://www.radix.net/~xanadu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: what price exotica? Date: 06 Sep 1996 16:16:19 GMT i like putting together my own compilations with themes (all exotica related, of course). i've had them duped on cassette. i give them away as gifts to friends around new years. is this illegal? i've also thought about trying to sell them. what would happen if i did this? anybody know? jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maravillo@aol.com Subject: Re: Gilbertos Date: 06 Sep 1996 13:45:15 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-05 19:55:54 EDT, you write: << What is the relation between Jaoa and Astrud? Merc, Thom >> Hubby and wife. onde e a saida, Maravillo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: huge@sirius.com (Huge Graphics) Subject: Re: what price exotica? Date: 06 Sep 1996 11:19:30 -0700 >i like putting together my own compilations with themes (all exotica >related, of course). i've had them duped on cassette. i give them away as >gifts to friends around new years. > >is this illegal? > >i've also thought about trying to sell them. > >what would happen if i did this? anybody know? > > >jack Your head would explode, and all of the little pieces would drift back down to earth and clog up your drain...Or maybe not. David Bailey Huge Graphics http://www.sirius.com/~huge # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BGlennii@aol.com Subject: Re: what price exotica? Date: 06 Sep 1996 14:27:57 -0400 It's probably tremendously illegal! Ben DC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lsd@bitstream.net Subject: Re: love that Chilean Orchestra Date: 06 Sep 1996 14:08:10 -0500 >Does anyone have info on the availability of the ORGY OF THE DEAD soundtrack? >Need it! Now! Stars the CHILEAN ORCHESTRA or the like... >Help! Ayuda! >Lounge Laura Dear Lounge Laura: You can find "Orgy of the Dead", ('in gorgeous Astravision and shocking Sexicolor') on Strangelove (Strange 0001-2). This was released as apparently a special side project by Kramer, the man who brought us Shimmy disc and Bongwater, et al. When it was released last year, I heard rumour that he would be doing more of this type of thing, but haven't seen anything else yet... The cd plays almost the entire soundtrack of the movie, maybe cutting short one or two tracks from the original. It actually includes all the dialogue, as I recall(we rented the movie some time last year), which isn't a whole lot since the movie is really a 90 minute strip tease! It's fantastic...Criswell emoting about 'the threshold people', etc. The music is quite nice, with credit given only to Jaime Medoza-Nava. The screenplay is by none other than Ed Wood himself, who also served as assitant director. Need I say more? The film was released in 1965..."SEE the frolicking of the cat girl...SEE the girl drink from the skull of her lover..." 'taking-the-g-string-outta-mothballs' babs # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Russ Smith" Subject: unmentioned finds from MS Date: 06 Sep 1996 13:52:01 -0500 (CDT) I've been lurking the list 4awhile, digest form, I've picked up a few gems that are Aces Hi and want to share them w/ yas. Them crazy sounds: BIG Sounds of the Drag Boats Capitol ST-2049 nuttin but a day at the drags! Musique Experimentale BAM LD-071 wackier than French's Mustard, you know this one. ---what year is this one? Music to Moog By, G.K. -you know this one too. -virtually sealed, ***w/ the 'Book Of Moog' enclosed!*** Crash!Bang!Crunch!&Pow!, G.K. Peter Pan Records 8136 more than 100 sounds effects and story of The Sounds of The City Big Band Moog, Keith Droste Realistic 50-2022 -what? a demo album for the Surrealistic/Moog rouges? Fabulous Bongo Ping Pong Percussion Coronet CX-141 I feel like spatting Kerouac or Steve Allen when I here this. Of course, the always wonderful CROWN record label: Big Hot Rod , The Hot Rodders CLP-5378 'Spirit of America' rules, every song has hot rod sounds in it. --again, what year is this one? Guitars a Go.Go, Vol1 & 2, also A Go Go Guitars CLP 5476,5553,CST539 Jerry Cole & the Stingers a go go go to town! And just plain smoove sounds: Pizza Inn presents...Tijuana Party Big childhood flashbacks of old PizzaInns, this record has covers of Casino Royale, Georgy Girl, Music to Watch G's By, and 2 originals. Casino Royale , Hollywood Studio Orch. -wyncote SW-9202 ..I need more Spy Jazz, I love it! Organo Melodico, Juan Torres, Vol.9 Musart 1474 This is vol.9? Big Organ sounds! -even the best version of CreedenceCR's 'En la Esquina'... -I've got several pipe organ albums, 'It'sa Beautiful Sound' huhhuhhuh he said pipe organ huhhhuh yeah Theme From Star Trek/Theme From Planet Of The Apes (T.V. series)(Apes Shuffle) , Jeff Wayne Space Shuttle, Wonderland LP301 The dern grooviest kids record I ever herd! Cuts include: Batman Theme, Earth Bound, Journey Thru Space, Ape's Victory Dance, The Ape Planet, Star Light, Beyond The Outer Limits, Superman Theme. This album covers a range of 'lounge' styles. It hasn't left the in-house top 10 yet... AND.. good to listen to, better to look at, my favorite album cover, ever! Percussion Playful and Pretty Bob Rosengarden & Phil Kraus, RCA/Victor Two too cute girls banging each other's cymbals surrounded by all kinds of suspended percussion. I'm gonna wear this cover... Man, these small-town pawn shops and small vinyl piles under 'CD' counters here and there in the Rural South just can't be beat! All albums under $1... Even a Univox analog drum machine w/ Foxtrot, Swing, 2 Bossas, Tango, Habanera, Rhumba, Beguine, Mambo, ChaCha, Samba, Baion, 2 Waltz, 4 Rock, Ballad & Western beats. This box rocks, Only paid $15! I've been collecting various 'vintage' organs and devices for only a few years, It's amazing what comes out of expired persons' attics, and they think 'It's old, it's not worth much' Yea! Any Exoticats in New Orleans?>speakup! 'It's vinylicious' WUSM 88.5 Pubic Radio 4 S. MS. russ.smith@usm.edu Big Phun In Mississippi http://ocean.st.usm.edu/~crsmith # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laura@wusf.usf.edu Date: 06 Sep 1996 14:14:54 -0400 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: Sad Mel Torme News Date: 06 Sep 1996 14:58:08 -0400 I am doing my best to keep ya'll updated on Mel...Sorry it couldn't be better news... :^( Lounge Laura laura@wusf.usf.edu MEL TORME/AP (Los Angeles) -- Mel Torme may never sing again. Torme hasn't been able to speak since suffering a stroke a month ago. Doctors say they don't know if he'll get his voice back. His spokesman says Torme's condition has improved somewhat. He's breathing on his own now and could be moved from the intensive care unit to a private room by Monday. The spokesman says Torme is alert and writing notes to his wife and kids. He's also enjoying the cards and letters his fans have sent. He says Torme has ``a broad smile'' on his face when he reads his mail. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laura@wusf.usf.edu Date: 06 Sep 1996 15:19:03 -0400 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: Re: Date: 06 Sep 1996 15:35:24 -0400 RE> 9/6/96 uh, is this a vieled hint? Are you kicking me off:^)...posting toooo much today-am I ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: Re: Dave Dexter Date: 06 Sep 1996 15:34:26 -0400 RE>Dave Dexter 9/6/96 To Glenn and all...Let me rephrase the question...I need to know the connection between Dexter, the Beatles, and Les Baxter. What exactly did Dexter do with Baxter, and Dexter do with the Beatles? Dexter, for instance, is listed on Baxter's LE FEMME and apparently had more to do (and I couuld be wwwayyyy offfff base, so don't flame me, mop-tops!) with the American releases of early Beatles records than did George Martin. Am I right, wrong, weak, strong, WHAT!!? Paz, Lounge Laura laura@wusf.usf.edu "It's just my nature to do weird stuff..." Lounge Laura sez... Ok, Ok...I was wrong on the name, knew it! It's not "Dan" Dexter about whom I was inquiring...it was DAVE DEXTER...Now, for you exotica-types, he did some stuff with Les Baxter...and to you Bomp!-types, he was also involved with American-releases of early Beatles stuff...So, the lists oddly converge(as oft they do!) A Beatles-Baxter connection, via Dexter! BUT THAT'S ALL I KNOW! And I need you philes to help me piece the rest of this together... HELP@! I believe that Dave Dexter was a staff producer at Capitol in the '50s-'60s. That's why his name is on a lot of old Capitol records. What was your original question again? (BTW - I know I owe you a private email regarding videos - it'll be forthcoming shortly!) Glenn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: Re: Dave Dexter Date: 06 Sep 1996 14:10:47 -0400 RE>Dave Dexter 9/6/96 To Glenn and all...Let me rephrase the question...I need to know the connection between Dexter, the Beatles, and Les Baxter. What exactly did Dexter do with Baxter, and Dexter do with the Beatles? Dexter, for instance, is listed on Baxter's LE FEMME and apparently had more to do (and I couuld be wwwayyyy offfff base, so don't flame me, mop-tops!) with the American releases of early Beatles records than did George Martin. Am I right, wrong, weak, strong, WHAT!!? Paz, Lounge Laura laura@wusf.usf.edu "It's just my nature to do weird stuff..." Lounge Laura sez... Ok, Ok...I was wrong on the name, knew it! It's not "Dan" Dexter about whom I was inquiring...it was DAVE DEXTER...Now, for you exotica-types, he did some stuff with Les Baxter...and to you Bomp!-types, he was also involved with American-releases of early Beatles stuff...So, the lists oddly converge(as oft they do!) A Beatles-Baxter connection, via Dexter! BUT THAT'S ALL I KNOW! And I need you philes to help me piece the rest of this together... HELP@! I believe that Dave Dexter was a staff producer at Capitol in the '50s-'60s. That's why his name is on a lot of old Capitol records. What was your original question again? (BTW - I know I owe you a private email regarding videos - it'll be forthcoming shortly!) Glenn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@nyc.pipeline.com (lou smith) Subject: Re: what price exotica? Date: 06 Sep 1996 21:10:04 GMT On Sep 06, 1996 16:16:19, 'jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman)' wrote: >i like putting together my own compilations with themes (all exotica >related, of course). i've had them duped on cassette. i give them away as >gifts to friends around new years. >is this illegal? >i've also thought about trying to sell them. >what would happen if i did this? anybody know? >jack Hey Jack, didn't you know that home taping is killing music? Is this something you can live with, that *YOU* personally killed *music*? Lou (Check the FAQ in alt.music.bootlegs -- it'll probably answer most of your questions) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: soundbliss9@localhost.xmission.com Subject: Tiki Tones Date: 06 Sep 1996 15:32:55 +0000 While on vacation in Houston, I picked up a cool CD by the Tiki Tones. Kind of surf-lounge instrumentals, but much better than the run-of-the-mill stuff a lot of other modern bands are doing. And great cover art, too. The title is "Idol Pleasures." Keep an eye out! soundbliss9@earthlink.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: guinto@id.ucsb.edu (Marie Guinto) Subject: Re: Tiki Tones Date: 06 Sep 1996 15:04:02 -0800 >While on vacation in Houston, I picked up a cool CD by the Tiki Tones. >Kind of surf-lounge instrumentals, but much better than the >run-of-the-mill stuff a lot of other modern bands are doing. And great >cover art, too. The title is "Idol Pleasures." Keep an eye out! I Heart the Tiki Tones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Marie guinto@id.ucsb.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: what price exotica? Date: 06 Sep 1996 19:37:56 +0000 >i've also thought about trying to sell them. >what would happen if i did this? anybody know? >jack Hey Jack, didn't you know that home taping is killing music? Is this something you can live with, that *YOU* personally killed *music*? Bootlegs are one thing, but you can't find these records new to buy. Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "GEORGE W. STEWART" Date: 06 Sep 1996 15:46:44 -0400 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "GEORGE W. STEWART" Date: 06 Sep 1996 15:07:15 -0400 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "GEORGE W. STEWART" Date: 06 Sep 1996 15:24:02 -0400 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "GEORGE W. STEWART" Date: 06 Sep 1996 15:20:29 -0400 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "GEORGE W. STEWART" Date: 06 Sep 1996 15:16:57 -0400 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "GEORGE W. STEWART" Date: 06 Sep 1996 15:24:58 -0400 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "GEORGE W. STEWART" Date: 06 Sep 1996 15:27:05 -0400 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: Re: Author of Caravan Date: 06 Sep 1996 20:48:48 -0700 Bodiodo@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 96-09-03 03:26:04 EDT, you wrote: > > > it's also one of those songs that's been done a thousand times but > > sounds different every time and is my nominee for best Exotica song of all > > time! > > Great bits of history in the early part of your message, really enjoyed it! Caravan really would be a top contender for best Exotica song of all time. > But I have to admit that I'm really partial to Martin Denny's rendition of Quiet Village as the definiative Exotica song of all time. Tough call! To plug my web site yet again, this is precisely its focus: the songs like "Caravan," "Quiet Village," "Third Man Theme," and others that have been recorded over and over by exotica and space-age pop musicians. You can find a full bio of Juan Tizol, the author of "Caravan" (and "Perdido" as well), a list of 80+ covers of "Caravan," and similar info. Plus liner notes and those much-beloved technical notes. http://www.netrail.net/~bbigelow/homepage.htm End of plug. Brad Bigelow bbigelow@netrail.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Heileson, Thomas" Subject: RE: Hugo Montenegro Date: 05 Sep 1996 17:25:00 PDT >Hugo was/is (anyone know?) a prolific arranger who contributed to schmultz, >cheese, disco, soul, easy, pop, psych, what's left? I know I have passed >LP's of his up in the bins, esp the early easy ones, but the late 60's and >70's can be very entertaining. Actually Candy's Themes is rather haunting >and good with the 'I Dream of Jeannie' theme on it somewhere. The LP's >concept is musical portraits of women and girls (teenagers) with song >titles like: Candy's Theme, Kitten, Fanny, Amber, etc. The liner notes tell >us more than we want to know about Hugo. Is there something in REsearch on >Him? > >Loves of My Life 1957 >In a Sentimental Mood 1962 >Candy's Theme and Other Sweets 1965 >Music from "A Fistfull of Dollars" and "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly" 1968 >Moog Power 1969 >Good Vibrations 1969 >Dawn of Dylan 1970 >People ...One to One 1971 >This is Hugo Montenegro 1971 >Neil's Diamonds 1973 >Hugo in Wonder-land 1974 >Rocket Man 1975 >Others by Brothers 1975 >Arriba! (no date) A while ago I taped a CD compilation of Montenegro tunes called "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly" -- came out a couple years ago, sports a photo of Hugo amongst beaucoup seminude gals. My question is, has the "Good Vibrations" album (or "Candy's Theme and Other Sweets," for that matter) been reissued on CD? My folx used to play that on 8-track in the auto in the early 70s, and hearing the whole album again would really take me back. (I had decided at age 5 that the Montenegro version of The Turtles' "Happy Together" was my all-time favorite song...) Until then, I have the GB&U compilation's inclusion of "Knowing When To Leave" -- which was on that there Good Vibes 8-track -- to tide me by... this track is a Beaut!! A must-hear. Happy ba-ba-ba's and wah-wah-wah's to all, + --- Thom S. Heileson + + - _oR_ + - phASER@wolfenet.com / heilts1@mpe11.ghc.org PS Speaking of CD reissues -- I know there are some CDs of various Sergio Mendez $ Brasil '66 songs, but I haven't yet seen CDs of the acutal albums such as "Equinox" (another raised-on-the-8-track one) or "Herb Alpert Presents..." Does anyone know if CDs of the albums per se exist? I wouldn't mind adding crisp digital recordings to the much-luvd scratchy vinyl... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chrysler Mighuel Stewart" Subject: Re: Seattle Visit & Clubs &tc. Date: 07 Sep 1996 03:50:44 -0700 To +++roger+++ ---------- > BTW are there some good clubs (or record stores) in Seattle, cause I'm there > in October, I just heard of the Toe Club. Oooooh, of course there are all sorts of clubs in Seattle which cater to the Exotica Set. All you need to do is pick up a copy of free Seattle Rags 'The Stranger" or "The Rocket" to find all sorts of Lounge Clubs and the Like... Unfortunately, I haven't been able to ever actually go to any of them because most of them are real 'clubs' with drinking and such, and you have to be 21... I'm not 21... But: Here's the problem I have with the so-called 'Cocktail Revolution;' The thing about cocktail music is that it is associated with cocktails! I find this unfortunate... I suppose that is is cool and suave to sip cocktails, but I just don't agree with the alcohol part... Why is it that there has to be such a strange mixture? Personally, I just enjoy the music, but find it rather disgusting that I have to drink in order to enjoy the music socially... Hmph! I'll just start my own club thank you! No drinking for me... Why couldn't the cocktail revolution have been based around tea, or Kool-Aid, or something innocent! That's why Polynesian Food is such a Kick! Enough Straightedge babble, already! On to the Music! So: clubs I'm not so sure about, although I have seen some marvy posters hanging up on kiosks, etc. Record stores, however, that's more my bag! I can do that legally, without fear of intoxication... I have found that Western Washington has proved to be an excellent area for purchasing great records. There are Thrift stores everywhere! Record Stores too! Let's see... A really fine place to go is this new and used music store in the University District, off of 45th called Second Time Around which has a whole enormous section marked off as 'Easy Listening' Which has lots of good stuff, with an apparently erratic system of pricing. Some cool stuff is really cheap, (there's a huge 49¢ section of old stuff) while other seemingly mediochre items are upwards of US$15! The 'real' music stores like Golden Oldies sell records for the 'collector' price, (Don't be surprised to see a dumpy old Tom Jones record selling for $5.00 or more!!!) Aaand, if you don't want to process the rows and rows of dusty used records, the Tower records chain has added a new 'lounge' section selling greats like Yma Sumac (Amy Camus) and Les Baxter on compact disk for $5.00-$17.00 - but that's kind of cheating, don't you think? As long as you're in the Seattle area, you might as well venture northward, along the I-5 corridor, where the Thrift Stores are not only dense, but they are not nearly as well picked through, like some of the big city outlets. Good places to try, where the Thrift stores cluster together are Everret, where they have a big strip mall with JUST thrift stores, (Off of Broadway), Marysville- creepy ghosty place just off the freeway, with an astonishing number of thrift stores, that are virtually unnoticed. Mount Vernon (60 miles north of Seattle) has another thrift store strip mall, and a great selection of really good, cheap records, (due largely to ignorant shopkeeps- they don't know how much people are willing to shell out for the same stuff their grandparents discarded five years ago...) Good good good! Bellingham gets a little thin in the exotica department, but they are home to a number of contemporary "Surf Bands" on the Estrus Label (Man or Astro Men, Shadowy Men on a Shadowy Planet, etc.) Which can be had pretty reasonably. Hmmm. Yes... I'm sure other people will also be able to help you out, but- OH! Ooooh! I almost forgot! Now I'm not sure if this is still happening, but several years ago, maybe five, or so, I went to this place called the Pike Street Cinema to see this film about G. G. Allen, which I was only mildy interested it, BUT: we got there early, so before the show the owner put on these cool old films called Scope-O-Tunes (sic) which were, I seem to recall, special films produced in France for this special jukebox which actually projected a music video on to a screen or something... I fell to pieces! It was about the coolest thing I had ever seen! They were like sort of professional, but sort of not, videos of songs, mostly in English, but a few in French. And they wee only produced for I think three years or something. Anyway, they were in gorgeous colour, and I remember the best a song about go-go dancing, where some classy guy was singing all about the various chic go-go moves on some estate or somewhere, and then these scantally clad women would demonstrate them... "Do the Swim! Do the Swim!" And this other where another where this dizzy French girl was riding a carnival ride in somewhere like Paris, and as she sang, the ride would go up and down, and her skirt kept flying up into her face. (which she made no attempt to correct, I might add...) Anyhow, I was, needless to say, overwhelmed by how cool they were, and VOWED that I would return! I returned with a pamphlet which I still have somewhere advertising "1960's Dance Party every Saturday Night at Midnight" I, unfortunately, have never had the chance to return. I hope and pray that the Pike Street Cinema still exists and shows these Scope-o-toons still, but I don't know. IF ANYONE CAN PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE STATUS OF THE PIKE STREET CINEMA, I WILL BE ETERNALLY GRATEFUL!!! But if it is still in exsistance, BY ALL MEANS check it out! I think, that it was on Gerard Street... Maybe... I know that it is, ironically, NOT on Pike Street, as the name implies... Well, I guess I am not supposed to write this much in a single message, but I seldom write at all, so it had kind of been building up... Have fun in Seattle +++roger+++, I hope you can put some of my info to use. Yours the Lost, Rev. Chrysler Mighuel Stewart pettit@cnw.com http://www.cnw.com/~pettit > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? > # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fmaj7 Subject: Re: Seattle Visit & Clubs &tc. Date: 07 Sep 1996 08:18:27 -0500 (CDT) On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Chrysler Mighuel Stewart wrote: > in order to enjoy the music socially... Hmph! I'll just start my own club > thank you! No drinking for me... Why couldn't the cocktail revolution have > been based around tea, or Kool-Aid, or something innocent! That's why i wouldn't call tea or kool-aid innocent. mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Kilmartin Subject: RE: Hugo Montenegro Date: 07 Sep 1996 09:21:51 -0400 At 05:25 PM 05/09/1996 PDT, you wrote: > >A while ago I taped a CD compilation of Montenegro tunes called "The Good, >The Bad and The Ugly" -- came out a couple years ago, sports a photo of Hugo >amongst beaucoup seminude gals. Indeed... This is the only Montenegro CDdomestically released in North America. Don't know about Europe... I think the best all-round Montenegro compilatiom is probably the "This is ..." 2 record set. Groove on "Lady In Cement" or his amazing cover of the Our Man Flint" Theme. Does anybody have the albulm(s) for his Matt Helm movies. This guy is usualy associated with his Spagetti Western theme albumsbut his spy stuff and his loungecore/Partridg Family/Moog stuff totally swings! ..so, yah, if you're wondering I am a big fan... >PS Speaking of CD reissues -- I know there are some CDs of various Sergio >Mendez $ Brasil '66 songs, but I haven't yet seen CDs of the acutal albums >such as "Equinox" (another raised-on-the-8-track one) or "Herb Alpert >Presents..." Does anyone know if CDs of the albums per se exist? I wouldn't >mind adding crisp digital recordings to the much-luvd scratchy vinyl... Again you may have to look to Japan for this stuff. Just saw am import of the Chris Monteaz A&M albums but ye-GODS those imports can cost an arm and a leg..... Joe "might be sticking with MASSIVE IRISH for a moniker" Kilmartin Any newer, better, moniker suggestions will be accepted with a smile... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EdCoyne@aol.com Subject: Re: Gilbertos Date: 07 Sep 1996 09:54:25 -0400 I just checked the name of the Wanderley album and it's "Samba Swing." Sorry. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Kilmartin Subject: Re: Seattle Visit & Clubs &tc. Date: 07 Sep 1996 09:45:19 -0400 Hmmmnnn... Lots to talk about here.... At 03:50 AM 07/09/1996 -0700, you wrote: > Unfortunately, I haven't been able to ever actually go to any of >them because most of them are real 'clubs' with drinking and such, and you >have to be 21... I'm not 21... But: Here's the problem I have with the >so-called 'Cocktail Revolution;' The thing about cocktail music is that it >is associated with cocktails! I find this unfortunate... I suppose that is >is cool and suave to sip cocktails, but I just don't agree with the alcohol >part... Why is it that there has to be such a strange mixture? Personally, >I just enjoy the music, but find it rather disgusting that I have to drink >in order to enjoy the music socially... All I can say to this is you're gonna have to wait and try a Pina Collada festooned with Umbrellasand served in a Pineapple shell with that Martin Denny tune and it'll be like someone's turned on a light somewhere. Drinking to excess isn't (neccesarily)cool but there's nothing like groovin' to Lounge with a Martini in your hand that you can explain to someone who, at this time, can't legally partake. 'Shame most places refuse entrance rather than just carding when it seems appropriate, so more (and I can't beleive I'm about to type the next word, it's SO freaking ED SULLIVAN) youngsters can get into the swing... This would be a priority to suggest to someone openning their own Lounge... >. Why couldn't the cocktail revolution have >been based around tea, or Kool-Aid, or something innocent! Hmnn... I beleive that the Rave scene might have been based on one of those... :) 8< -SNIP, SNIP- 8< >Aaand, if you don't want to process the rows and rows of dusty used >records, the Tower records chain has added a new 'lounge' section selling >greats like Yma Sumac (Amy Camus) and Les Baxter on compact disk.... Okay... To open a thread that's probably been neatly tied up previously. Is there ANY truth to this whole AMY CAMUS from Jersey / Yma Sumac from Peru business.?!? Or is it one of those Palindromic word game co-incidences like "A man, a plan, a canal, PANAMA" or" Some men interpret nine memos". Those going for the name change are best to remember that sometimes things aren't too odd to be possible... >the owner put on these cool old films called Scope-O-Tunes (sic) which >were, I seem to recall, special films produced in France for this special >jukebox which actually projected a music video on to a screen or >something... I fell to pieces! It was about the coolest thing I had ever >seen! They were like sort of professional, but sort of not, videos of >songs, mostly in English, but a few in French. And they were only produced >for I think three years or something. Anyway, they were in gorgeous colour, >and I remember the best a song about go-go dancing, where some classy guy >was singing all about the various chic go-go moves on some estate or >somewhere, and then these scantally clad women would demonstrate them... >"Do the Swim! Do the Swim!" Wait a second... "Shake A Tailfeather" is a SCOPE-O-TONE flick...!!?! I may now die in a rush of bliss... Scope-O-Tones are available on video from a few sources... Keep the faith, Rev. Joe "Massive Irish" Kilmartin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: unmentioned finds from MS Date: 07 Sep 1996 13:12:10 -0500 Russ Smith wrote: > Musique Experimentale BAM LD-071 > wackier than French's Mustard, you know this one. No I don't! Please tell us more. kevin king xanadu@radix.net http://www.radix.net/~xanadu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: what price exotica? Date: 07 Sep 1996 18:27:55 GMT >Hey Jack, didn't you know that home taping is killing music? >Is this something you can live with, that *YOU* personally killed *music*? nah, never bothered me. >Lou >(Check the FAQ in alt.music.bootlegs -- it'll probably answer most of your >questions) thanks, i will..... but you know, everyday i see these dance mix dj's hawking their tapes for $12.00 on broadway. i think i should get one of those tape players, set up a table with an umbrella, sip cocktails and hawk my exotica mix tapes. jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: trends in exotica? Date: 07 Sep 1996 14:40:22 -0400 At 09:05 AM 9/5/96 -0400, you wrote: >Let's hope the Macarena goes sooner than later. Amen.......... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: what price exotica? Date: 07 Sep 1996 14:40:26 -0400 At 09:13 AM 9/5/96 -0400, you wrote: >Having experienced Bleecker Bob personally years ago, I refuse to enter the >store. He had a habit of picking fights with male customers and then putting >his dog ( i think it was a doberman) into attack mode. He would laugh as the >guy went running out of the place. The women he would just hit on >relentlessly until they left. Of course the prices alone would be enough to >keep one from going in. Sounds like a real asshole. How does he stay in business? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tribute@dircon.co.uk (Hugh Petfield) Subject: Re: Seattle Visit & Clubs &tc. Date: 07 Sep 1996 22:12:15 +0100 > >Oooooh, of course there are all sorts of clubs in Seattle >Well, I guess I am not supposed to write this much in a single message, > Rev. Chrysler Mighuel Stewart P'raps not, but I for one enjoyed your Seattlescape very much. Managed to evoke a very imaginable image (tautology?) of the place. A++. BTW I agree about the alcohol point you raised. It would be VERY calorific, but I'd like to be able to order up a tall glass of that syrupy liquid that tinned pineapple comes in, chilled. Hugh. e-mail from: tribute@dircon.co.uk (Hugh Petfield) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lee@anti.com Subject: DEAR LIST, WE LOST YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS! Date: 07 Sep 1996 16:19:46 PST Dear Exotica Mailing List people, Some files of mine were deleted (my fault, don't wanna talk about it any more) and with it went ALL THE EMAIL ADDRESSES FOR ALL OF YOU WHO WANT THE DIONYSUS TEXT CATALOG when it comes out! So please, anyone who wants to be on our emailing list (and wow, did we scoop up tons more old exotica, lounge, SPABPM, garage, psych, surf and instro albums & singles) PLEASE SEND YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS TO DDIONYSUS@AOL.COM as I won't have access to this current address by next week. Love from Lee & Aime PS: Tiki Tones are the tops! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: what price exotica? Date: 07 Sep 1996 19:43:35 +0000 Funny thing about those mix tapes on B'way and Canal, one of my friends owns one of the stands and he actually gets records direct from the record company's as Promo's. They (the record company)see it as promo to buy the Album and my friend even suggest they should get the CD or Record.??? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: what price exotica? Date: 07 Sep 1996 19:45:30 +0000 Bleeker Boob stays in buisness because hey has a lot of Very rare records and he is in a section that has a lot of tourist.??? J, # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: Re: what price exotica? Date: 07 Sep 1996 20:06:36 -0400 Funny how people from long distances away will learn eventually that Bleaker Bob is to be avoided. I remember visiting the store in the early 1980s and realizing within five minutes that it was a horrible place to be. And isn't this the store much mocked in the Seinfeld episode in which Kramer decides to go into the rare record business? Will Will Straw Associate Professor and Acting Director, Graduate Program in Communications/ Director, The Centre for Research on Canadian Cultural Industries and Institutions 3465 rue Peel, Montreal, Quebec H3A 1W7 Phone: (514) 398 7667; Fax: (514) 398 4934 http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/programs/gpc/crccii/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jack Weber" Subject: That new Levi's commercial is great!!! Date: 07 Sep 1996 17:37:14 -0700 With all of these e-mails about commercials, I thought I should put in an honourable mention for the new Levi's add for the fifth pocket. The music on that one is great. The comercial itself is also done very exotic-like. Stay Swingin' -Jack Weber # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Montenegro Date: 07 Sep 1996 22:15:18 +0000 Groove on "Lady In Cement" I agree wholeheartedly!!! Lady in Cement is amazing!!! Most of the score is true fuzzed out psych rockin' guitar/organ combo. And it's all pretty much crime psych oriented. Jilly's Joint, The Shark, Lady in Cement...at least 7 tunes ar killers No pun intended or his amazing cover of the >Our Man Flint" Theme. Oh yeah!! Does anybody have the albulm(s) for his Matt Helm movies. I've got it in mono. Never seen a Stereo copy and paid 25 for the mono btw worth every penny ;-)> I did have the vocal version with Dean on the cover and a bevy of beauties surrounding him but not my bag o' tea musically This guy is usualy associated with his Spagetti Western theme >albums but his spy stuff and his loungecore/Partridge Family/Moog stuff >totally swings! You are on it Sir! Loungcore and Crime and Psych on Lady in Cement Crime Loungecore on the soundtrack to The Silencers. Matt Helm's Blues is un-be-lieve-a-ble Even great loungecore on his spagetti weestrn stuff Aces High !!! More whistling coming soon ;) So NOBODY knows about the Nutty Squirrels ???????????????? Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: The Cocktail Revolution Date: 07 Sep 1996 22:15:23 +0000 But: Here's the problem I have with the >>so-called 'Cocktail Revolution;' The thing about cocktail music is that it >>is associated with cocktails! I find this unfortunate... I totally agree ;) I rarely drink alcohol, don't like it and never have. I gotta tell you this story; This reminds me sooooooooooo much of when I was trying to get into and understand the dead, grateful that is because all of my friends were nuts about them and we listened to alot of the same music BUT they were NUTS about the dead. Couldn't figure it out to save my life. I saw them 8 times and still hated them ;)) For free I saw them 8 times mind you, all in Golden Gate park in San Francisco from about 1971-72. That's when they told me that to _really get it_ I had to take some sort of psychedelic drug. So I did. Double barrel orange sunshine My real 1st show was at Winterland in 1972 I think, maybe later that was filmed and became Steal Your Face. I was an excellent show I must say and the thing of all is I never had to drop again...if I didn't want to of course because I GOT IT. That was a long time ago, were YOU even alive then ?;)))))))))) any of you ? How old were you then ? BTW, the show was 3 bucks and they let us in 8 hours early and we played city against city volleyball on the huge floor and watched live shows in b and w on a huge screen and smoked and snorted our brains rockin' in the free world and here we are again with a "new drug of choice". Oh man, thanx for listening Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chrysler Mighuel Stewart" Subject: Re: Bell Book & Candle Date: 08 Sep 1996 03:39:27 -0700 Well, as per to Exotica Mailing List advice, I went out and rented 'Bell Book and Candle' and just finished watching it! What a charming movie! Can't beat that soundtrack, either! Zounds! Is that a NovaChord playing along with the trumpets and bongos? Nova Chords are definately cool! And the boss sound effects were also quite good! (See also Hanna-Barbera cartoons for the 'Magic' Sound "Wonder Twin Powers- ACTIVATE!!!") But Gillian should have never given up her Native African and Oceanic Art Shop in favour of that old Flowers of the Sea place... For some reason, I was reminded of another great Movie, which I only saw part of many years ago. I was wondering if anybody else had heard of it: It was an Italian Sci-Fi Flick called (I think,) "It's a wild, wild, wild Planet" and it was very good, with little models which ended up getting destroyed, and visible fishing line when things hovered. That part alone made it worth seeing, but also, also- It seemed to have one of the most astounding soundtracks I had ever heard! Not really the type of music that went along with the plot or anything- Almost as out of synch as the dialogue was with the actors' mouths! Great! I don't remember many specifics about the music; only that my mind tagged the soundtrack as good. It seems pretty obscure, however; I've never seen it in catalogues, probably about 1966 or so- Italian, of course. Hmmm. There was this other film too, and I BELIEVE that it may have been the space movie about the Abomidable Snowmen, terribly dull, but I had it recorded, and the soundtrack was quite organy and delicious, a lá Walter Wanderly. Could this be?! By the Grace of God, Rev. Chrysler Mighuel Stewart pettit@cnw.com http://www.cnw.com/~pettit/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: Montenegro Date: 08 Sep 1996 10:57:44 GMT On Sep 07, 1996 22:15:18, 'dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond)' wrote: >So NOBODY knows about the Nutty Squirrels ???????????????? well, yeah, i know about them. i have their thrird album which you correctly criticize. i bought it because i was hoping there would be something on it as good as "uh oh." wasn't that used as the theme for betaville? i fondly remember a single called "we're getting nuttin' for christmas," from my childhood. was this by the "nutty squirels?" jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: what price exotica? Date: 08 Sep 1996 11:04:54 GMT On Sep 07, 1996 14:40:26, 'bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com' wrote: >Sounds like a real asshole. How does he stay in business? re: bleecker bob well, one positive thing i can say about the store is that he's got some great people working there. talk to john about soundtracks/exotica or talk to mark about obscure industrial/power electronics. i was hoping that either one of them would be there. bob just makes the place feel like a subway toilet. jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chrysler Mighuel Stewart" Subject: Scope-o-Tones Date: 08 Sep 1996 04:08:08 -0700 Howdy All! Rev. Chrysler Mighuel Stewart tuning in: Anyhow: previously on the Exotica Front, Joe "Massive Irish" Kilmartin casually mentioned that Scope-O-Tones are available on video from a few sources... Well then! Please! Where Sir are these sources?! That would be plenty worth buying instead of wasting my money going to college! If there really is some location at which these videos could be secured, please, submit such knowledge for those whom seek the ultra bella fab! Thank you thank you! By the grace of God, I remain. Rev. Chrysler Mighuel Stewart pettit@cnw.com ***Hear me sing 'One Note Samba' and other fav's at the Official Chrysler-Stewart and the Stewartesses International Fanpage: "http://www.cnw.com/~pettit/chrysler.htm"*** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: The Cocktail Revolution Date: 08 Sep 1996 11:31:09 GMT On Sep 07, 1996 22:15:23, 'dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond)' wrote: >But: Here's the problem I have with the >>>so-called 'Cocktail Revolution;' The thing about cocktail music is that it >>>is associated with cocktails! I find this unfortunate... > >I totally agree ;) I rarely drink alcohol, don't like it and never have. you aren't the first people i've run into that embrace this musical genre yet find cocktails repugnant. i was shocked when i walked a martini down the block to jerry nutter when he opened a store in the east village and he confessed that he had never tasted one before. Jack is obviously one of the mentors of the "cocktail nation," so i will not pass judgement, but man, a well schemed series of cocktails really enhances my enthusiasm for listening...not necessary, but apropos. So, allow me to cast a nod towards the appreciation of mixology as an integral ingredient of this phenomenon. jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Bailey Subject: Re: Montenegro Date: 08 Sep 1996 11:19:08 +0000 >or his amazing cover of the >>Our Man Flint" Theme. >Oh yeah!! >Does anybody have the albulm(s) for his Matt Helm movies. >I've got it in mono. Never seen a Stereo copy and paid 25 for the mono btw >worth every penny ;-)> I just watched the video of "In Like Flint." It is truly amazing....Flint talking to dolphins, Crazy soundtrack, Flint's groovin bachelor pad (and his 3 loyal assistants) "Fabulous Face" beauty retreat for ladies into world domination, and memorable lines, like "An actor for President?!!!" and "well, ladies have you learned your lesson?" All in all very amusing, very wacky and very cool. Oh, and very misogynous...circa 1967. David Bailey Huge Graphics http://www.sirius.com/~huge # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Rave on Date: 08 Sep 1996 15:48:43 -0600 (MDT) Hey, > >>. Why couldn't the cocktail revolution have >>been based around tea, or Kool-Aid, or something innocent! > >Hmnn... I beleive that the Rave scene might have been based on one of >those... :) > Just a quickie. True-ish, to a point. If you take ecstacy/speed/or acid, you enjoy it more sober was the thinking behind this. Then there are "smart drinks" based on herbs, designed to make you feel like you're on drugs (only in the mildest way). But 9 out of 10 real "ravers" (this means people who enjoy music in a club environment, not people who listen to cheesy machine tack as heard in some charts around the world) prefer establishments that serve booze. It is true. So you swap one drug (booze) for another (Illegal stuff). These are NOT "straight edge" envirnoments - but can be extremely enjoyable nonetheless, and more and more electronic music is encorporating lounge sentimentalities as well as funky soundtrack vibes. Free your musical mind and your ass will follow... x Jill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: Today's haul! Date: 08 Sep 1996 19:32:55 +0000 Well, another Sunday, another car boot sale and another pile of cheap records to pile up! Run your ears over these beauties: Enoch Light - presents a Stereo Spectacular (Australian title) Hot Butter - Popcorn (LP which also features their Moog versions of Apache and Telstar - woof!) Richard Gleason Orch - TV Themes (on the Tops label, yellow vinyl) Big Jim H - Hammond Dance Party Bob Newhart - Button Down Mind on TV Caterina Valente & Stanley Black - I Wish You Love Herb Albert - The Lonely Bull (Australian issue) Wout Steenhuis - Hawaiian Christmas A total rip-off LP: Stradivari Strings - The Ping Pong Percussion Sound of Leroy Anderson which has barely any percussion whatsoever (apart from a few intros copied from the likes of "Persuasive Percussion") - the rest is really tame orchestral dreck. If anyone wants this, you're welcome! And one of the strangest records I've ever heard: Happy Monsters - An Adventure in the Land of Oog (Happy House Records) One side is a story and the other has some rockin' cuts: Ooog Frug, Monster Rock, See See Monster, Clap Your Tentacles, Kiss Me Goognight!!! Not listened to the story yet but the tracks are basically squeaky toys, rattles and other playthings almost obliterating fairly uptempo poppy tunes. One for the kids?! Robbie Spaced Out - the Enoch Light WWW Site *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** http://www.cybersurf.co.uk/rcb/light/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: what price exotica? Date: 08 Sep 1996 16:33:03 -0600 (MDT) >At 09:13 AM 9/5/96 -0400, you wrote: >>Having experienced Bleecker Bob personally years ago, I refuse to enter the >>store. He had a habit of picking fights with male customers and then putting >>his dog ( i think it was a doberman) into attack mode. He would laugh as the >>guy went running out of the place. The women he would just hit on >>relentlessly until they left. Of course the prices alone would be enough to >>keep one from going in. > >Sounds like a real asshole. How does he stay in business? > Gee, has everyone experienced this guy? I have been to New York twice now, and only went back in the second time to look through the bins like a library because there was no way in hell I would find money to buy the stuff. Yeah, he didn't half talk my ear off either, and although he was nice to me (maybe those bumps on the front of my chest has something to do with it, who knows?), I couldn't help but feeling that he was an obnoxious cocky git. As for staying in business, I think those wealthy foreigners looking for a quick fix for their collections keep him going. Lord knows his mark up is high enough. Just a though. Jill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re: Beat Girl Date: 08 Sep 1996 13:08:46 -0400 There's a Suncoast store in San Francisco. It's in the Stonestown shopping mall, second floor. Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tribute@dircon.co.uk (Hugh Petfield) Subject: Nutty notes Date: 08 Sep 1996 23:34:39 +0100 >On Sep 07, 1996 22:15:18, 'dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond)' wrote: >i fondly remember a single >called "we're getting nuttin' for christmas," from my childhood. was this >by the "nutty squirrels?" ... the version which made it over to the UK was by some guys called Kenny and Korky. Label, perhaps Bigtop or a subsidiary. Norm N Nite's "Rock On" dictionary of Rock and Roll (pub 1974) lists The Nutty Squirrels as Sascha Burland and Don Elliot from NY, NY. "Nuttin' for Christmas" isn't listed by them, only "Uh! Oh! Part 2", which was a hit over the Christmas 1959 season (same time as "Nuttin' for Christmas" would have been). It's not impossible, though, for Kenny and Korky to have been the same people as the Nutty Squirrels. More aliases, more labels, more records, more dough! Not sure if this posting is about exotica, or just obscure stuff! Observation: doesn't really odd stuff get into the charts at Christmastime? How about we all make a push and get Yma to #1 this Yuletide? Especial regards to the Rev'd, and Laura. Hope your month is going well. Hugh. e-mail from: tribute@dircon.co.uk (Hugh Petfield) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chrysler Mighuel Stewart" Subject: On Reissue 'Cheating'... Date: 08 Sep 1996 16:06:30 -0700 (Reprinted from a previous message) Just wanted to clear up that whole CD Reissue/cheating concept: It's not really cheating- not really, BUT- In Seattle, it's fairly easy to find much of the popular exotica stuff in thrift stores, if you're willing to get your fingers a bit dusty. The only thing that is bad about these CD Reissues is the price! I suppose that's the cost of being popular- but it's always kind of a snicker seeing Martin Denny CDs for US$17 in the stores after buying them at a flea market for a quarter! Don't get me wrong, I have bought CD Reissues of certain Exotica Groups- But really, I sort of found myself balking at paying US$5 for a Yma Sumac sampler... I'm not really used to paying that kind of money for music, (Unless, of course, it is the wonderful Pizzicato Five- I have been known to go temporarily insane and shell out $40 for a single CD!) usually I even think paying more than, say $2 for a record, a used record, mind you, is alot... Still, the local thrift stores are always getting new and unusual shipments, and I can't help but be drawn to them... Still, (on the macabre side,) as I once said many years ago, there are only so many old ladies who can pass away, and have their collections donated to charity... That's why I always do my part and return records into the system. (Like Burt Kamphbert (Sp?) and Ray Connif- I just don't really like them, but I know that SOME people DO!) So- That's that. Humbly, Rev. Chrysler Mighuel Stewart pettit@cnw.com http://www.cnw.com/~pettit # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boudinot@sos.net (boudinot enterprises) Subject: exotica initiation Date: 08 Sep 1996 00:42:27 +0200 introductions! i am new charter member steven malcom, a fresh new mind for the exotica mailing list! i am an admirer of esquivel, yma, combustible edison, and many others. in fact last monday i saw combustible edison play at bumbershoot...they were great! lily was sooo good and the group played fantastically. I am still learning about cocktail music, so if you know of any good cocktail resource information centers, let me know. Till then, steven malcom # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jay Watterworth Subject: Re: The Cocktail Revolution Date: 08 Sep 1996 00:00:27 -0600 (MDT) Don't know if I should be so frank, but guess the statute of limitations covers me. Yes, I remember the double domed (we called them double domed, but I think we are talking about the same beast: rather large barrels, relatively speaking, with curved top and bottoms) orange sunshine. That was interesting. I think the double domed purple were even more so; and the window panes...; etc., etc., ad nauseam. What, are you gettin' grey, too? Never really got off on the Dead's music either, though they are interesting to me from a sociological standpoint. The irony is that this semester I am teaching a class called "Drugs in US Society". What goes around, comes around, I guess. Yours from one of the sociological guys, Jay Watterworth CU Boulder On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Jack Diamond wrote: > But: Here's the problem I have with the > >>so-called 'Cocktail Revolution;' The thing about cocktail music is that it > >>is associated with cocktails! I find this unfortunate... > > I totally agree ;) I rarely drink alcohol, don't like it and never have. > > I gotta tell you this story; > > This reminds me sooooooooooo much of when I was trying to get into and > understand the dead, grateful that is because all of my friends were nuts > about them and we listened to alot of the same music BUT they were NUTS > about the dead. Couldn't figure it out to save my life. > > I saw them 8 times and still hated them ;)) For free I saw them 8 times > mind you, all in Golden Gate park in San Francisco from about 1971-72. > > That's when they told me that to _really get it_ I had to take some sort of > psychedelic drug. So I did. > > Double barrel orange sunshine > > My real 1st show was at Winterland in 1972 I think, maybe later that was > filmed and became Steal Your Face. > I was an excellent show I must say and the thing of all is I never had to > drop again...if I didn't want to of course because I GOT IT. > > That was a long time ago, were YOU even alive then ?;)))))))))) > any of you ? How old were you then ? > > BTW, the show was 3 bucks and they let us in 8 hours early and we played > city against city volleyball on the huge floor and watched live shows in b > and w on a huge screen and smoked and snorted our brains rockin' in the > free world and here we are again with a "new drug of choice". > > Oh man, thanx for listening > Jack > > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? > # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Sando" Subject: Re: DEAR LIST, WE LOST YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS! Date: 08 Sep 1996 16:34:42 +0000 pls keep me posted! steve sando Coconut Grove, publishers of MisterLUCKY PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 http://www.wco.com/~coconutg/ "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: what price exotica? Date: 08 Sep 1996 21:09:01 +0000 As for staying in business, I think those wealthy foreigners looking for a quick fix for their collections keep him going. Lord knows his mark up is high enough. Actually i had a friend that worked at a store 'round the corner,He once told me he gives "shit "for most of the record's he buys (i.e. $5 bucks for Moog records ,Blue Note stuff ....)Ndmarks them $50,$75,even a $100 for Moog /Hymen/Carlos stuff. And you should of seen when he found out about Esquvel ....($100 and up ?) Jason Vocod'o'rama http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocolist.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dtaub@csun.edu (Daniel Taub) Subject: Eden Ahbez is Still Alive? Date: 08 Sep 1996 19:20:21 -0700 Anyone know anything about a CD by Eden Ahbez called "Echoes from Nature Boy" that came out last year on Accent Records? Saw it in a record store ... it had a version of "Nature Boy," a song called "Nature Girl," a song called "No Bums Allowed" and about eight other songs. The black-and-white picture on the cover is Eden as a spry young man, but there's a color picture of him on the back looking rather like Willie Nelson. Anyone know about this? Is it any good? I didn't even know Se=F1or Ahbez was still alive... Daniel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bryan Jare Cuevas Subject: RE: Today's Haul Date: 08 Sep 1996 22:02:46 -0400 (EDT) Hit it big today in Richmond, VA.... HENRY MANCINI ** $5.00 all titles VG+/NM ** The Blues and the Beat Mr. Lucky Combo! High Time Soundtrack Mr. Lucky Goes Latin Hatari! Soundtrack Total Mancini Purchase - $30 ** The $2.00 Pile ** ARTHUR LYMAN Yellow Bird (HiFi) Arthur Lyman on Broadway (HiFi) JIMMY SMITH The Cat (Verve) CY COLEMAN The Troublemaker Soundtrack (Ava) THE THREE SUNS Dancing on a Cloud (RCA) SANTO & JOHNNY Wish You Love (Canadian American) GEORGE SHEARING QUINTET Latin Escapade (Capitol) Satin Affair (Capitol) EDDIE LAYTON No Blues on This Cruise (Mercury) DON BAKER Bakers Dozen (Capitol) JACKIE DAVIS Hi-Fi Hammond (Capitol) PETE RUGOLO & HIS ORCHESTRA 10 Saxophones and 2 Basses (Mercury) DICK HYMAN The Man From O.R.G.A.N. (Command) TONY MOTTOLA Guitar...Mottola (Command) Heart & Soul (Command) EARL GRANT Ebb Tide (Decca) Spotlight on Earl Grant (Decca) Beyond the Reef (Decca) ....and a few more oddities. So you see folks, it pays not to pay - Thrift Shopping is still alive! Get out of California! take care bryan cuevas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Xmas Squirrels Date: 08 Sep 1996 23:00:22 +0000 "uh oh." >wasn't that used as the theme for betaville? i fondly remember a single >called "we're getting nuttin' for christmas," from my childhood. was this >by the "nutty squirels?" > >jack Jack, Y'know...I did have a non-lp 45 that was a promo that were 2 xmas tunes. I don't have it anymore and no regrets ;-)> I couldn't deal with it as it reminded me toooooo much of the chipmunks. It was also my understanding that the nutty squirrels had some sort of cartoon tv show. Know anything about that ? Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Whacked out kids rekkids Date: 08 Sep 1996 23:06:52 +0000 >And one of the strangest records I've ever heard: > >Happy Monsters - An Adventure in the Land of Oog (Happy House >Records) > >One side is a story and the other has some rockin' cuts: Ooog Frug, >Monster Rock, See See Monster, Clap Your Tentacles, Kiss Me Goognight!!! > >Not listened to the story yet but the tracks are basically squeaky >toys, rattles and other playthings almost obliterating fairly uptempo >poppy tunes. > >One for the kids?! >Robbie Robbie! Yeah, Peter Pan has some really pop weird moog stuff and also keep an eye out for Beneath The Planet of The Apes or something like that on a kids label with a cartoon cover. Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Bleeker Bob's in L.A. Date: 08 Sep 1996 23:10:07 +0000 In L.A. on Melrose I believe there is a store by this guy. I went in a couple of years ago and there was Esquivel rekkids on the wall at a hunnert bucks. They're not THAT rare. I looked around and saw high prices ON BEAT REKKIDS. Guess he's got the west coast covered too Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: what price exotica? Date: 08 Sep 1996 15:48:07 -0600 (MDT) >but you know, everyday i see these dance mix dj's hawking their tapes for >$12.00 >on broadway. i think i should get one of those tape players, set up a table >with an umbrella, sip cocktails and hawk my exotica mix tapes. > >jack jack, All I can say is selling mix tapes is definately illegal. Lots of people do. Very few get busted, but some DO!! Giving them to your friends may also be illegal technically, but I have never heard of anyone getting busted from this. With this kind of music, it can be so damn hard to find that I really appreciate people (and return the favour) who make tapes of stuff I can't get. But no doubt, I will buy the original or reissue if it exists or can be found. And taping an out of print release is hardly "killing" music. No one gets a royalty for buying second hand music. If anything, this keeps "dead" music alive by generating interest to the extent that a reissue might take place. So tape at will, and sell at your own risk... x Jill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Kilmartin Subject: Re: Rave on Date: 09 Sep 1996 07:55:31 -0400 At 03:48 PM 08/09/1996 -0600, you wrote: >Hey, 8< Snip, snip...8< > 9 out of 10 real "ravers" (this means people who >enjoy music in a club environment, not people who listen to cheesy machine >tack as heard in some charts around the world) prefer establishments that >serve booze. It is true. So you swap one drug (booze) for another (Illegal >stuff). These are NOT "straight edge" envirnoments - but can be extremely >enjoyable nonetheless, and more and more electronic music is encorporating >lounge sentimentalities as well as funky soundtrack vibes. Free your musical >mind and your ass will follow... Indeed... Point WELL taken (I was just jokin' , Jill..That's why the smiley face was there! :) ). Two or three of my friends who are more into club and rave music than I am have been lurking around the list here lately too... No offence was intended to those into electronic music in any form... Best! Joe "Massive Irish" K. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jay Watterworth Subject: Laser Turntable for DJ's (fwd) Date: 08 Sep 1996 23:20:06 -0600 (MDT) Yet more on the mythical laser turntable. Jay ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Just got back to Auckland and I can confirm for anyone who is interested that there is indeed a magic CD turntable which will let you do everything you used to be able to do with vinyl and lots more. It is manufactured by Pioneer Electonics out of Japan and has the model number CDJ500. I believe that we have a brochure in the building here somewhere that I can track down if anyone wants more info. Regards, Gino Cappel Thought for the day: "A few days ago it was fight procrastination day. If I get round to it, I might give that some thought." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anton J. Elmquist" Subject: Bored? New Pictures on OYABANDO site... Date: 09 Sep 1996 12:09:56 -0400 Hey, all... Just did a major bunch of updates to the OYABANDO site - lots of silly pictures of Aya and Steve and a new look with things that move around and make noise and stuff. For if you're sitting at work being really bored. Like I am. It's a frames-only thing, though, so if you're frames-challenged, don't go there. If not, check out: http://www.spacelab.net/~anton/oyabando - Anton -- *********************************************************** * Anton Elmquist - Programming and Design * *********************************************************** * Check out the The Bed-Stuy Network! * * http://www.spacelab.net/~anton * * * * And the OYABANDO page - Surf music links and more... * * http://www.spacelab.net/~anton/oyabando * * * * "Guitar lines that taste like grape jelly" * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan Dada Vis) Subject: Quincy Jones CDs: help needed Date: 09 Sep 1996 19:30:37 +0100 these are some of the low-cost Quincy Jones CD titles i found in GMX; can someone recommend some of them, as being "cool", "groovy" or "hip"? A&M397074 A&M GOLD SERIES THAT012525 ABSTRACTIONS THAT'S JAZZ K9260202 BACK ON THE BLOCK WEA A&M393200 BEST A&M393191 BODY HEAT A&M372121 DUDE VERV589529 GITANES JAZZ VERVE GoLD017742 GOLD GOLD MAGi490851 MAGIC COLLECTION JAVE100327 QUINCY JONES JAVELIN PROMOTIONS LTD JAZZ940455 QUINCY JONES & ORCHESTRA JAZZ MAN MCA572825 QUINTESSENCE VERV077423 STRIKE UP THE BAND VERVE MCP563907 THE JONES BOYS iMPU111522 THIS IS HOW I FEEL ABOUT JAZZ IMPULS/GRP CHAR233621 WALK ON THE WILD SIDE CHARLY DISTRIBUTION MUSIC DE-LUXE SPECIA JAVE018225 WARTERMELON MAN JAVELIN PROMOTIONS JAZZ906052 WATERMELON MAN JAZZMATICO Thanx! = Johan |)/\|)/\ Vis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: the ap on Tony B Date: 09 Sep 1996 15:07:35 -0400 IMHO: Tony, is of course, _____BETTER_____ than Madonna...but the MACARENA folks on this group might not think so ;^) Hi to the overseas gang: Hugh, Stephan, and Jill Mingo-au-go-go(I like that better :) LUV-from Lounge Laura laura@wusf.usf.edu "It's just my nature to do weird stuff..." TONY BENNETT: MR. MADONNA (AP Los Angeles) -- Tony Bennett may be trying out a new nickname. He tells ``The Hollywood Reporter'' he was the Madonna of his time, because he had so many hits early in his career. Now, Bennett says it's nice to be collecting awards so many years later, such as the Emmy he won Sunday night for outstanding variety or music performance. His big complaint these days is with the lack of adult music being played on American radio stations. Bennett says radio should be more sensitive to the large audience that loves more mature music. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laura@wusf.usf.edu Date: 09 Sep 1996 18:38:38 -0400 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: springer@nyc.pipeline.com (D. Scott Springer) Subject: Golden Disc Date: 10 Sep 1996 00:53:07 GMT >----- Forwarded message (dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond)) -----< In L.A. on Melrose I believe there is a store by this guy. I went in a couple of years ago and there was Esquivel rekkids on the wall at a hunnert bucks. They're not THAT rare. Well, actually another place in NYC that has not been mentioned recently is Golden Disc on Bleecker Street. They have stuff like Baxter's "Kaleidoscope" for $67.00! I also saw a lousy copy of Esquivel's "Other Worlds. Other Sounds" for $99!!! On the other hand, they sometimes put good stuff in the $1.00 bins, for example a mint copy of Riddle's "Route 66 Theme and Other Great TV Themes. Generally I would say to stay away from the EZ bins upstairs...Footlight will have better copies of the same records for far less. Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TothMD@aol.com Subject: FS: exotica, etc. records (e-mail me for list) Date: 09 Sep 1996 21:40:04 -0400 I have a list of 40 or so records (space age pop, exotica, 50s/60s pop jazz, crime/spy soundtracks, etc.) for sale on a best-offer bid basis, with a bid deadline of Sept. 21, 1996. Except for a fabulous condition Spike Jones disc and a Raymond Scott 4-disc album set which are 78s, everything else is 12" LPs. I've posted details/the list to alt.exotic-music. Contact me by e-mail direct at TothMD@aol.com (NOT THE MAILING LIST!) if you'd like it e-mailed to you. Thanks, Michael David Toth TothMD@aol.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: FS: exotica, etc. records (e-mail me for list) Date: 10 Sep 1996 03:48:44 GMT hey michael, i am interested in your list. jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: FS: exotica, etc. records (e-mail me for list) Date: 10 Sep 1996 01:06:29 +0000 What Songs are on the Raymond scott 78's J # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Kuhr" Subject: Mickey One Soundtrack Date: 10 Sep 1996 07:07:53 UT Does anyone have any info on the CD re-issue of the soundtrack to "Mickey One", Arthur Penn's wonderfully nutty allegory about an unfunny comedian (played by Warren Beatty)being pursued through Chicago by an all-powerful mob? The score is a Stan Getz-Eddie Sauter collaboration with a conceit unique to soundtrack albums far as I know---that Stan Getz and his tenor sax are actually portraying the title character. ("What is the sound of terror?--The sound of loneliness, fear and the city?It is a contemporary sound. The sound of now.").Hokey as that sounds it works---Stan Getz' sax drips existential angst as he traverses a musical universe that ranges from cool jazz to Las Vegas grind with even a polka thrown in for local color, fer chrissake. One of the all-time great soundtracks I think, alas, my vinyl copy has a coupla skips and I'd love to find the CD. BTW, I wish Rush Street really looked like the nightlife district in the movie---every bouncer wears a costume outta some Sinbad movie and the bars all have names like "Club Exotica". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Fensch Subject: Ultra-Lounge Date: 10 Sep 1996 09:44:20 +0000 I saw the Christmas at the Ultra-Lounge CD at a Blockbuster Music yesterday. Probably will pick it up a little closer to the holiday. soundbliss9@earthlink.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: Re: Ultra-Lounge Date: 10 Sep 1996 12:15:06 -0400 RE>Ultra-Lounge 9/10/96 Saw it, too, and it got me a-wonderin': 1. Has anyone heard this particular disk? Lots of good sangers on it...Here's the question, buy it new or used? 2. What are the list-members recommendations for holiday tunes? My collection is a bit light in this dept., save for some crooners, the Three Suns and the Ventures... And, as usual for me, the wwweeeiirddderrrr, the better! Waitin' for Halloween, Lounge Laura laura@wusf.usf.edu I saw the Christmas at the Ultra-Lounge CD at a Blockbuster Music yesterday. Probably will pick it up a little closer to the holiday. soundbliss9@earthlink.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: Re: Quincy Jones CDs- help n Date: 10 Sep 1996 12:19:41 -0400 RE>Quincy Jones CDs: help needed 9/10/96 and which ones are CRIME JAZZ? lounge laura laura@wusf.usf.edu these are some of the low-cost Quincy Jones CD titles i found in GMX; can someone recommend some of them, as being "cool", "groovy" or "hip"? A&M397074 A&M GOLD SERIES THAT012525 ABSTRACTIONS THAT'S JAZZ K9260202 BACK ON THE BLOCK WEA A&M393200 BEST A&M393191 BODY HEAT A&M372121 DUDE VERV589529 GITANES JAZZ VERVE GoLD017742 GOLD GOLD MAGi490851 MAGIC COLLECTION JAVE100327 QUINCY JONES JAVELIN PROMOTIONS LTD JAZZ940455 QUINCY JONES & ORCHESTRA JAZZ MAN MCA572825 QUINTESSENCE VERV077423 STRIKE UP THE BAND VERVE MCP563907 THE JONES BOYS iMPU111522 THIS IS HOW I FEEL ABOUT JAZZ IMPULS/GRP CHAR233621 WALK ON THE WILD SIDE CHARLY DISTRIBUTION MUSIC DE-LUXE SPECIA JAVE018225 WARTERMELON MAN JAVELIN PROMOTIONS JAZZ906052 WATERMELON MAN JAZZMATICO Thanx! = Johan |)/\|)/\ Vis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Playlist for 3-24-96 Date: 10 Sep 1996 10:49:20 +0000 KFJC play list 3/24 Sundays 89.7FM 9AM-Noon Los Altos Hills, CA Jack Diamond's House of Games ARTIST TRACK ALBUM Planets Chunky Rolley Polley Blue Rhumba Capitol/B.Black Bernie Green Orch. Out of this World Futura/RCA/SA Richard Hayman Dansero GELLM/Command An anthem for a generation!!! Sexadelic Dance Party Droge C X 9 Vampyros Lesbos Anita Kerr Singers Bye Bye (Peter Gunn vocal) RCA/65 Billy May Orch Window Washer Johnny Cool/62 Nordine Junkman DOT/SON/58 Piero Umiliani It's Nice to Be a Woman Sweden H & Hell Esquivel Malaguena Selarosa Genius of Muzzy Marcellino I'm on My Way Liberty Russ Garcia/Ray Brown/ Don Fagerquist/Bob Cooper Shakespeare, John Orchestra Mucho Mexico SEVEN-0 coll: Easy Project Jimmie Haskel Orch. Weightless Blues Countdown Laurie Johnson The Shake Easy Project Mancini Hawaii 5-0 Dick Nash-Trb Solo Roy Clark Caravan Yet Another Version! Bald Bill Hogan Koochie Galore Strip Tease Party Marco Polo Adventurers Yokahama Ferryboat RCA Sascha Burland/Mason Adams The Arranger Pierre Henry Rock Electronique Mass for Today John Dankworth The Party The Idol Sexadelic Dance Party Dedicated to Love Vampyros Lesbos Ferrante Teicher L O V E Blast Off Los Indios Tabajaras Maria Elena 63/RCA Esquivel I Love Paris Strings Aflame W/ Carl Fonatana - Bass Accordian Sumac, Yma Remember Miracles John Keating Dreamer Studio 2, E M I A R P, Vinyl Quincy Jones Psychosis Slender Thread Mundel Lowe All Stars w/ The Thin Man Theme 59/RCA Jimmy Cleveland, Ed Shaughnessy, Donald Byrd, Eddie Costa Chun King Radio Comm. The New Chun King 1966 Awards Martin Denny Quiet Village Moog69/Liberty Angelo Badalamenti The Pink Room Twin Pks Fire Walk Leonard Rosenman Brent's Interrogation Beneath the Planet Nino Rota, Novacord Juliette's Theme Juliette...Spirits Marty Manning Orch Night on Bald Mountain Twilight Zone w/Mundell Lowe-Guitar Columbia, 1960 Christopher Komeda Christmas Rosemary's Baby Synthesonic Sounds House of Rising Sun Michel Magne Brazil Tropical Fantasies on Columbia Jody Carver/Johnny Cucci Brazil 1955, Coral Peter Green Underway 1970 Peete Rugolo Orch. Diamond on The Move Emarcy, 58 I¹m bored what can I say ? AND I thought you all would like to look at this Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Grant China Subject: Xmas exotica (was RE: Ultra-Lounge) Date: 10 Sep 1996 08:06:54 -1000 At 06:25 AM 9/10/96 -1000, you wrote: > RE>Ultra-Lounge 9/10/96 > >Saw it, too, and it got me a-wonderin': >1. Has anyone heard this particular disk? Lots of good sangers on >it...Here's the question, buy it new or used? >2. What are the list-members recommendations for holiday tunes? My >collection is a bit light in this dept., save for some crooners, the Three >Suns and the Ventures... >And, as usual for me, the wwweeeiirddderrrr, the better! Looking over my CDs, I've got 16 Christmas CDs cataloged but only one of them is what I would consider exotica (or wierd): "Christmas On Big Island" by the Blue Hawaiians. This is the only Blue Hawaiians disc that I have and I don't know anything else about them but I don't think you'll be disappointed with this one. About half of it is original tunes and half is traditional Christmas music and all of it has a definite surf inspired sound. I give it a big thumbs up. For borderline lounge, pick up Dean Martin's "A Winter Romance". His recording of "Baby It's Cold Outside" is Dino at his lecherous best. Aloha, Grant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: guinto@id.ucsb.edu (Marie Guinto) Subject: Re: Playlist for 3-24-96 Date: 10 Sep 1996 11:34:26 -0800 >I'm bored what can I say ? AND I thought you all would like to look at this Thanks Jack for posting your playlist. I think it's always fun to see what people are playing on their shows.. Maybe if I feel up to speed I'll do the same.. Today has been slow for me, work is somewhat on the boring end. I feel I should stur up controversy on our list.......(Just Kidding). Oh something silly and fun for everyone on the list. I've recently made stickers for my show, yes I cut and pasted Stereophonic images, but regardless if anyone would like a couple of stickers you can e-mail me at guinto@id.ucsb.edu Thought I would give a bit of cheer to you all, Marie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: guinto@id.ucsb.edu (Marie Guinto) Subject: Stickers Date: 10 Sep 1996 11:36:51 -0800 I forgot to mention those who wanted stickers should send me your snail mail address when e-mailing me. Stickers can be fun, Marie guinto@id.ucsb.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: Quincy Jones CDs- help n Date: 10 Sep 1996 15:06:35 -0500 From my limited knowledge of Quincy: Definitely rent the video Listen Up!: The Lives Of Quincy Jones (at least I think that's the title). It spans his career and gives great insights into what fueled his music - especially his early jazz soundtracks. Of what I've heard of those (Pawnbroker, In Cold Blood, Mirage (which I just got AND rented the movie - soundtrack's even better than Pawnbroker)) they are the bulk of his crime jazz. As I remember, his later work, especially in the 70's is more smooth easy pop soul (Stuff Like That). Come to think of it, some might go well with the 70's Sound Gallery set - although I find it kinda dull. His more recent work incorporates soul sounds of the day - rap, hip hop... I'm curious too about his other non-soundtrack early releases (I've seen This Is How I Feel About Jazz a number of times). Jack? Oh, Ja-ack? kevin king xanadu@radix.net http://www.radix.net/~xanadu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: Quincy Jones CDs- help n Date: 10 Sep 1996 15:34:43 -0500 Oh, and there's a Warner Brothers site for his latest - Q's Jook Joint - that includes biography, interviews, samples... http://www.wbr.com/quincyjones/ Another very informative, non-record company page is Q's Page http://www.duke.edu/%7Ejcf3/ kevin king xanadu@radix.net http://www.radix.net/~xanadu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: Torme Update Date: 10 Sep 1996 15:43:04 -0400 Lounge Laura's latest from the AP...send him your best vibes, waves, and other things exotica... MEL TORME MOVED (Los Angeles) -- Mel Torme has been moved into a private room at a hospital in Los Angeles. Torme got out of the intensive care unit a month after suffering a stroke. He'll now have two weeks of neurological rehab. Doctors say they'll know more about his chances for a full recovery after that. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Q. Jones CD's Date: 10 Sep 1996 15:00:23 +0000 which ones are CRIME JAZZ? >lounge laura Quincy Jones CD titles i found in GMX; can >someone recommend some of them, as being "cool", "groovy" or "hip"? None of them are CRIME or what _you want_ Johan ;) Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: The Return of S*P*A*C*E S*A*F*A*R*I Date: 10 Sep 1996 23:10:28 +0000 Inviting you to join us on our next journey to the limits of Hi Fidelity... Next Tuesday (17th) at Wilkie House (here in bonnie Edinburgh), DJs Robbie and Mingo-go will bring you: OFF-WORLD LOUNGE MUSIC! MOOG-DRIVEN MADNESS! THEREMIN MANIA! TOE-TAPPING EXOTICA FROM DIMENSION X! and much much more! We launch at 11pm and the journey takes approximately 4 hours - it is also ENTIRELY FREE! However, this is on the condition that you give your consent for us to indulge in a scientific analysis of the effect of sound waves on the human mind. Prepare yourself for this event by cruising to the Space Safari WWW site (URL below). I hope to welcome you aboard... Tell everyone you know, bleep - Robbie S P A C E S A F A R I - A Journey to the Limits of Audio Fidelity http://www.cybersurf.co.uk/rcb/space/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: Mickey One Soundtrack Date: 10 Sep 1996 18:15:06 -0400 At 07:07 AM 9/10/96 UT, you wrote: >Does anyone have any info on the CD re-issue of the soundtrack to "Mickey >One", Arthur Penn's wonderfully nutty allegory about an unfunny comedian >(played by Warren Beatty)being pursued through Chicago by an all-powerful mob? > The score is a Stan Getz-Eddie Sauter collaboration with a conceit unique to >soundtrack albums far as I know---that Stan Getz and his tenor sax are >actually portraying the title character. ("What is the sound of terror?--The >sound of loneliness, fear and the city?It is a contemporary sound. The sound >of now.").Hokey as that sounds it works---Stan Getz' sax drips existential >angst as he traverses a musical universe that ranges from cool jazz to Las >Vegas grind with even a polka thrown in for local color, fer chrissake. One >of the all-time great soundtracks I think, alas, my vinyl copy has a coupla >skips and I'd love to find the CD. I'm also looking for this on CD as well as video. Can't seem to find it anywhere..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Kilmartin Subject: Re: Date: 10 Sep 1996 18:05:51 -0400 At 06:38 PM 09/09/1996 -0400, you wrote: > > > Probably just a glitch, but wonderin' how you're doing. Decided for the moment to go with "Massive Irish" as a moniker. Any bettersuggestions would be gladly appreciated. Take Care, Keep Swinging! Joe"Massive Irish" Kilmartin. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Ultra Lounge Organs Date: 10 Sep 1996 18:17:18 -0400 I just saw (Vol.11?) of the Ultra Lounge series titled Organ Trios or Organ Combos. Any body out there heard it yet? What's it like? Thanks, Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Kilmartin Subject: Re: Date: 10 Sep 1996 18:07:53 -0400 OOoops... Just realised I may have sent a personal note publicly. My face is appropriately red. Sorry for the intrusion, folks... Joe "Hangin' His Head In Shame" Kilmartin > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Kilmartin Subject: Re: Xmas exotica (was RE: Ultra-Lounge) Date: 10 Sep 1996 18:16:48 -0400 At 08:06 AM 10/09/1996 -1000, you wrote: .> I've got 16 Christmas CDs cataloged but only one of >them is what I would consider exotica (or wierd): "Christmas On Big Island" >by the Blue Hawaiians. This is the only Blue Hawaiians disc that I have and >I don't know anything else about them but I don't think you'll be >disappointed with this one. About half of it is original tunes and half is >traditional Christmas music and all of it has a definite surf inspired >sound. I give it a big thumbs up. MMMMMMnnnn! The Blue Hawaiians are VERRY good lounge Holiday Music. Especially like the Martin Denny take on "Chrismastime is Here" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: guinto@id.ucsb.edu (Marie Guinto) Subject: Re: Ultra Lounge Organs Date: 10 Sep 1996 16:03:58 -0800 >I just saw (Vol.11?) of the Ultra Lounge series titled Organ Trios or Organ >Combos. Any body out there heard it yet? What's it like? Yes I have and I loved it, definately one of my favorites out of the set. Marie guinto@id.ucsb.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimis@gonix.com Subject: GAP ad Date: 10 Sep 1996 18:26:21 +0000 Don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but the new issue of Entertainment Weekly contains a full-page ad for the GAP: skinny young things writhing around under the single word...lounge... BTW, The Roots of Lounge has been AWOL during a (poorly-managed on their end) transition caused by the sudden sale of our ISP to another ISP. We are aware of the problem and are furiously re-setting permissions and slinging files around, etc. on both ROL and the Mavericks official web site, also by moi. We'll be back soon, same URL, same smartass attitude, and the new issue of The Cheap Seats is to die for, so fall by sometime... -- / ----- --- - Mimi Schneider mimis@gonix.com | The Roots of Lounge has moved: [|] http://www.gonix.com/rol # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "D.J. Johnson" Subject: Karla Pundit Date: 10 Sep 1996 17:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Well, I finally got my Karla Pundit CD, and I love it! After watching that Korla Pandit videotape my grandmother left me (and watching it, and watching it...), I was wondering what I'd think of the Karla CD. Quite impressed! Lance is a multi-talented guy, yes? Deej # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: basic hip Subject: Re: Mickey One Soundtrack Date: 10 Sep 1996 20:11:04 -0700 At 07:07 AM 9/10/96 UT, Brian wrote: >One of the all-time great soundtracks I think, alas, my vinyl copy has a coupla >skips and I'd love to find the CD. I love the topic of soundtracks cause I've been scooping 'em up like crazy - and yes, Jack Diamond, I DID pick up that copy of Bell, Book and Candle - had to do it, glad I did. The feverish passion thing. Anyway, when I ran across a SEALED copy of "Mickey One" not too long ago, my eyes glazed over and rolled back into my head. Ran all the way home with it, sliced the seal with my exacto blade and laid that baby down. Warren Beatty is on the back cover wearing an overcoat in a steam bath with a couple of fat guys. He plays a comedian in this 1965 movie who is looking for new life and some worthwhile values. Know what? It didn't do it for me. It bugged me and my wife kept asking me to play something else. I tried over and over again to fall in love with it, but could not. It was like chewing on aluminum foil. No accounting for taste, I reckon. Since then, I tried to trade it to Jack, but he passed on it. And Jack's a jazz man! As it turned out, I found a store that swapped Edd Byrnes' "Kookie" and Louis Prima's "Hey Boy, Hey Girl!" for it. End of story. A glass of plain water for me, Ford # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Kuhr" Subject: "Peter Gunn" lyrics! Date: 11 Sep 1996 03:20:54 UT I recently found a great Sarah Vaughan lp ("The Henry Mancini Songbook" )where she sings the complete lyrics to "Peter Gunn"....they were written expressly for her and probably only she has the chops to really sing them right. She also sings "Mr. Lucky". What a thrill....I was only disappointed she didn't try her hand at "March of the Cueballs". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: basic hip Subject: Quincy Jones Soundtracks Date: 10 Sep 1996 20:29:39 -0700 Here are some movies that Quincy Jones scored: Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice Cactus Flower, The Color Purple, The Deadly Affair, The Dollars Enter Laughing For the Love of Ivy Hot Rock In Cold Blood In the Heat of the Night Italian Job, The John and Mary Lost Man, The MacKenna's Gold Mirage Pawnbroker Roots Slender Thread, The They Call Me Mister Tibbs Walk, Don't Run There ya go! Several of these starred Sidney Poitier. Anybody care for Neal Hefti? I'll see if I can put together a similar list. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Bleeker Bob's in L.A. Date: 10 Sep 1996 23:13:34 -0600 (MDT) > In L.A. on Melrose I believe there is a store by this guy. > I went in a couple of years ago and there was Esquivel rekkids on the wall > at a hunnert bucks. They're not THAT rare. > > I looked around and saw high prices ON BEAT REKKIDS. > > Guess he's got the west coast covered too Oh, yeah. I hit Bleeker Bob's on Melrose every time I'm in L.A. just for the laugh value. I can't believe that there are enough people stupid enough to pay their prices to keep that place in business with Melrose rents. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLPowellJr@aol.com Subject: Space Capades Date: 11 Sep 1996 01:23:32 -0400 I received a copy of Space Capades (Capitol's Ultra Lounge Vol. 3) as a birthday present Friday. Wow! I love this stuff! So wonderfully Cold War-chips and dip-Populuxe (anyone else read this book?)! What I think is pretty cool is, the youngest tune on this disc was recorded when I was less than a year old. Sounds like I missed out on some really cool-sounding decades back there. Bob Stay tuned for the opening of Bob's Vegas! Coming soon to the www near you! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David M. Tobin" Subject: Re: "Peter Gunn" lyrics! Date: 11 Sep 1996 03:17:24 -0700 At 03:20 AM 9/11/96 UT, you wrote: > I recently found a great Sarah Vaughan lp ("The Henry Mancini Songbook" >)where she sings the complete lyrics to "Peter Gunn"....they were written >expressly for her and probably only she has the chops to really sing them >right. She also sings "Mr. Lucky". What a thrill....I was only disappointed >she didn't try her hand at "March of the Cueballs". > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. > >have you seen the henry mancini 3 cd anthology entitled "the days of wine and roses"? definitely worthwhile...tunes spanning his whole career as well as a complete list of soundtracks and some great photos...dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: Bleeker Bob's in L.A. Date: 11 Sep 1996 11:56:44 GMT >Oh, yeah. I hit Bleeker Bob's on Melrose every time I'm in L.A. just for the >laugh value. I can't believe that there are enough people stupid enough to >pay their prices to keep that place in business with Melrose rents. bleecker bob has a store in london, supposedly, also. if he's so high rent, why would i bump into him at 6:00 am (alone..no staff) at nyc flea markets? as much as i begrudge his exploitation of our musical fetish, i have to admit he's putting in the hours. (but god is he one rough approximation of a human being!...or is he just the archetype new yorker?) i was thinking that i had regrets about stirring up discussion about such a character who would in the end thrive on such negative publicity. the concept is noteworthy, however. in the end, if you want that mint copy of "music out of the moon/peace of mind," and $100 is an hour's pay for consulting, "stupid," doesn't quite fit, as you walk out the door with a "mission accomplished" attitude. one could spend years searching for this treasure at list price and just never find it. life is too short. what "idiot" would re-issue it? something is wrong with this picture. this music should ALL be in print. that's the point. it shouldn't be available piecemeal in some goddamn "lounge compilations" cd box sets. all these records should be reissued on cd (or whatever media we have to collapse into next), AS THEY WERE. i think i mentioned these cassette dj compilations of dance music (which we all are familiar with..on the street for $10.00.) there is an infinite number of these. the lounge cd's available at virgin records are probably 1/100 in number..but equal in value. i say, DON'T BUY THEM. who ARE these people putting them together? They are indie rock radio dj's trying to make an extra buck. I can't listen to any of them more than once, can you? what an incredibe waste of money. my days of idealism are shot to hell, so i wouldn't suggest anything as naive as banning these abortions, but i would suggest orienting purchases towards re-issues as opposed to compilations. wheewwww.... jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gerard Janssen Subject: hello Date: 11 Sep 1996 14:56:02 +0200 (MET DST) Hello boys and girls I'm new on this list. I'm part of an Amsterdam easy listening deejayteam (the Easy Alohas). We play bachelor pad, spy music, sixties Latin, Belgian popcorn, German Party Beat, together with 'exotic' drum n bass and triphop. Percussion and drums, that's what we like. 1) If anybody likes to sell bachelor pad, moog and other exotic records, let me know. 2) If there are more easy listening deejays out there, please contact me. I'd like to exchange some ideas, experiences and maybe even deejays. 3) At the end of the year i want to come over to New York. Does anybody know an easy listening or other exotic danceclub which I can contact, over there. Aloha Gerard # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BGlennii@aol.com Subject: Re: Date: 11 Sep 1996 08:56:39 -0400 Whoops! :>D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Rhodewalt Subject: Re: Baby Doll Date: 11 Sep 1996 06:39:20 -0700 basic hip wrote: > >... > Scored the soundtrack for this awhile back and it is quite great. Hot and > sweaty, just like it should be. Music by Kenyon Hopkins, performed by Ray > Heindorf and the Warner Bros. Orchestra. The cover has a big, beautiful > photograph of a very sexy Carroll Baker laying on a day bed, looking right > at YOU and sucking her thumb! On the floor are empty Coke bottles, a > stuffed animal and movie magazines. > You forgot to mention what she is wearing. I feel guilty every time I look at that cover. Bruce Rhodewalt kahuna@tikipub.com _____________________________________________________________ Creative Internet | http://www.tikipub.com * 888-TIKIPUB solutions from... | 78-365 Highway 111, Suite 241 * Tiki Publishing * | La Quinta, CA 92253 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: Bleeker Bob's in L.A. Date: 11 Sep 1996 14:01:52 GMT wooops! late night alcohol rap! my apologies! can i rephrase? imho, re-issues are more desirable than compilations. jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: The Surfmen-Exotic Island Date: 11 Sep 1996 10:22:06 -0400 At 09:36 AM 9/5/96 PDT, you wrote: >I have to add my two cents to the Surfmen discussion... >I would have to say that the Surfmen also incorporated the best most >freakish human-bird calls of any exotica record. You really feel the >bird's emotions as he/she is perched on the verge of something dangerous >and psychotic. >Clark Like mebbe too much beer in the studio? I think the calls intentionally are exaggerated in order to be funny, much like the big-cat roars in Cugat's "Jungle Flute," which is described on the LP as a "novelty-rumba." Those guys were having fun, but maybe if blasted into the woods at night... Offering a nice stereo copy of "The Surfmen In Hawaii" LP if anyone wants. Tony Wilds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray_Coffey@hmco.com Subject: Peter Gunn lyrics Date: 11 Sep 1996 10:27:33 EDT >I recently found a great Sarah Vaughan lp ("The Henry Mancini Songbook") >where she sings the complete lyrics to "Peter Gunn".... >they were written expressly for her and probably only she has >the chops to really sing them right. Are these the same lyrics as the tune "Bye Bye"? from the Peter Gunn soundtrack? (Your telephone is always busy All that ringing makes me dizzy, etc.) No song has made me laugh as much for years. I can't imagine Sarah Vaughn doing this. Ray # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Lewis Subject: Re: Bleeker Bob's in L.A. Date: 11 Sep 1996 10:52:55 -0400 (EDT) > imho, re-issues are more desirable than compilations. I agree... As much as I love the "Exotic Moods of Les Baxter" compilation, I would have preferred to have all the individual albums re-released. Pablito # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bryan Jare Cuevas Subject: Re: Compilations/Reissues Date: 11 Sep 1996 10:43:42 -0400 (EDT) According to Paul Lewis: > > imho, re-issues are more desirable than compilations. > > I agree... As much as I love the "Exotic Moods of Les Baxter" > compilation, I would have preferred to have all the individual albums > re-released. Right on! RCA reissues 5 (!) Morton Gould albums complete with original covers, etc.....Capitol is doing quite well on sales for their Ultra-Lounge series - why is it that we don't have 5 Les Baxter originals?! There is a market for this. While I'm on the topic, I'd also like to complain about those RCA reissues - Morton Gould? Where are the full Esquivel releases? Hasn't RCA figured out that Esquivel sells far better than Gould? By the way, Scamp has done a nice job on the Denny reissues - I particularly applaud the 2-on-1 format. bryan cuevas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patrick@xpedite.com (Patrick Cashin) Subject: Re: Compilations/Reissues Date: 11 Sep 1996 11:14:07 EDT ----- Begin Included Message ----- Right on! RCA reissues 5 (!) Morton Gould albums complete with original covers, etc.....Capitol is doing quite well on sales for their Ultra-Lounge series - why is it that we don't have 5 Les Baxter originals?! There is a market for this. While I'm on the topic, I'd also like to complain about those RCA reissues - Morton Gould? Where are the full Esquivel releases? Hasn't RCA figured out that Esquivel sells far better than Gould? By the way, Scamp has done a nice job on the Denny reissues - I particularly applaud the 2-on-1 format. ----- End Included Message ----- I agree completely! Scamp is doing a fantastic job! RCA and Capitol are sleeping on the job. In a world were I can walk into any music store and find eighteen copies of any rock and roll has-been's greatest hits, where every poo-butt loser band and their brother gets a box set, where *KISS* sells out Madison Square Garden for three nights...a couple of Esquivel CDs is *NOT* too much to ask! Please, stop the insanity! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: Sun Ra anyone? Date: 11 Sep 1996 16:23:18 +0000 If anyone on the list is into Sun Ra, I have spotted a pile of over *20* original Sun Ra LPs in a local shop. Email me if interested and I'll send you a list of titles. I should warn you that roughly half are going for 55 UKP (the ones on Sun Ra's Saturn label) and the rest around 25 UKP. Be hearin' Robbie Virtual Vinyl http://www.cybersurf.co.uk/rcb/vv/virtualv.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: guinto@id.ucsb.edu (Marie Guinto) Subject: Re: "Peter Gunn" lyrics! Date: 11 Sep 1996 08:24:20 -0800 > I recently found a great Sarah Vaughan lp ("The Henry Mancini Songbook" >)where she sings the complete lyrics to "Peter Gunn"....they were written >expressly for her and probably only she has the chops to really sing them >right. I'm a big jazz vocalist fan...(I used to do a show dedicated to female vocalists called Divas of Jazz---yes bad tittle) I was wondering what kind of personnel is on the cd with her. I've tended to shy away from strings, a little too weepy for me. Marie guinto@id.ucsb.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Eden Ahbez is Still Alive? Date: 11 Sep 1996 11:53:52 -0400 At 07:20 PM 9/8/96 -0700, you wrote: >Anyone know anything about a CD by Eden Ahbez called "Echoes from Nature >Boy" that came out last year on Accent Records? Saw it in a record store >... it had a version of "Nature Boy," a song called "Nature Girl," a song >called "No Bums Allowed" and about eight other songs. The black-and-white >picture on the cover is Eden as a spry young man, but there's a color >picture of him on the back looking rather like Willie Nelson. > >Anyone know about this? Is it any good? I didn't even know Se=F1or Ahbez= was >still alive... Ahbez wrote the standard, "Nature Boy." His "Eden's Island" LP, which is reissued on CD, is in one of the Incredibly Strange Music books, described as Martin Denny meets Kerouac (supposedly great/weird, but I'm holding out for the vinyl).=20 Arthur Lyman covers "Eden's Island" on his Blowin' in the Wind LP, which I offer for sale, cheap. Tony Wilds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: RE: holiday tunes Date: 11 Sep 1996 12:20:08 -0400 >recommendations for holiday tunes? Esquivel (that LP in rotation just mortified my family this year!), Lenny Dee, Eartha Kitt, Arthur Lyman, Jimi Hendrix -- you know, all the young dudes. For Halloween this year, I suggest Randy Carlos' "Swingin' With Randy" on Fiesta, for its "Vampire" mambo, complete with lyrics en espanol, a mambo macabre. Tony "li'l conga boy" Wilds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Compilations/Reissues Date: 11 Sep 1996 12:49:48 -0400 >Right on! RCA reissues 5 (!) Morton Gould albums complete with >original covers, etc.....Capitol is doing quite well on sales >for their Ultra-Lounge series - why is it that we don't have 5 >Les Baxter originals?! There is a market for this. > >While I'm on the topic, I'd also like to complain about those >RCA reissues - Morton Gould? Where are the full Esquivel >releases? Hasn't RCA figured out that Esquivel sells far better >than Gould? I pride myself on scoring everything I'd like yet magically avoiding "dogs." The Morton Gould "Jungle Drums" LP was SUCH a deception. Morton Gould is the epitomy of everything wrong with "exotica" in the first place, its revival, and the misguidedness of the major companies. But Marty Gold, now there's a cat. Wake me when "Twist Goes Latin" comes out with a bonus track of "Guaglione-twist." Tony "El Tweest" Wilds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: Re: Peter Gunn lyrics Date: 11 Sep 1996 13:00:42 -0400 I, too, have the Sarah Vaughan Sings Mancini record - and yup, those lyrics are the same as used in GUNN NUMBER ONE. According to the liner notes, the lyrics were written for the Sarah album (at Quincy Jones' prompting), and I'm pretty sure VAUGHAN SINGS MANCINI came out in '66, and GUNN NUMBER ONE was...what? '67? Cool song. Better to hear it with Sarah's range than the chorale, I think. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: Re: "Peter Gunn" lyrics! Date: 11 Sep 1996 13:06:17 -0400 I'm certain that SARAH VAUGHAN SINGS THE HENRY MANCINI SONGBOOK is not on CD. The album is a mix of jazzier cuts (like "Peter Gunn") and songs with pop string arrangements. Well worth owning, even with the poppier stuff. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mythos@earthlink.net Subject: WTB: Russ Garcia "Fantastica" Date: 11 Sep 1996 10:17:44 -0800 Help ! I'm haveing a bad time trying to find a CD copy of Russ Garcia's "Fantastica" (TOCP 8325 -Japan). Anyone out there know a source and/or can point me in the right direction ? Any assistance MOST appreciated ! Regards, Brian. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jbatutis@AMEXPUB.COM (Joe Batutis) Subject: I Died Today Date: 11 Sep 1996 13:20:31 -0400 I just got "I Died Today" by Rod Keith. It's a great CD compilation of a guy who worked at one of those "Set Your Poems to Music" places. It's like the "Makers of Smooth Music" CD, if you dug that. Crazy lyrics on top of barely compatant background tracks. Still it's to Rod's credit that he could make anything musical out of some of these lyrics. The latest WFMU magazine has a great article on Rod, and I'm certain you could get the CD at their web site... Did someone already mention that Eden Ahbez is dead? Well, he is. -Joe B. http://www.amexpub.com/jbatutis/noddmusic/oddmusic.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Sando" Subject: Re: Compilations/Reissues Date: 11 Sep 1996 10:33:12 +0000 > I pride myself on scoring everything I'd like yet magically avoiding > "dogs." The Morton Gould "Jungle Drums" LP was SUCH a deception. > Morton Gould is the epitomy of everything wrong with "exotica" in > the first place, its revival, and the misguidedness of the major > companies. But Marty Gold, now there's a cat. The problem is more wih marketing than Gould. His music really is what used to be called "semi-classical" and has nothing to do with Lounge except it was recorded in about the same period. I catually like the rousing version of 'Malaguena" but I'd never think to call it Exotica or Lounge. Keep the tradition, Michael at All Music Services just faxed me a promo for a new Polygram series called "Mondo Lounge" including such lounge favorites as The Sandpipers' "Guantanamera", Robert Goulet's "What Kind of Fool Am I?" and the Baja Marimba Band doing "Georgy Girl".The tracks that someone on this list might be interested in are readily available elsewhere, including the umpteenth release of "Mas Que Nada" by Brasil 66. Coconut Grove, publishers of MisterLUCKY PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 http://www.wco.com/~coconutg/ "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: WTB: Russ Garcia "Fantastica" Date: 11 Sep 1996 18:04:41 GMT >Help ! > >I'm haveing a bad time trying to find a CD copy of Russ Garcia's >"Fantastica" (TOCP 8325 -Japan). > >Anyone out there know a source and/or can point me in the right direction >? > >Any assistance MOST appreciated ! i know footlight records had it. did you try them? if you are not in nyc, i think they are at www.footlight.com. jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Bleeker Bob's in hell Date: 11 Sep 1996 14:09:26 -0400 At 10:52 AM 9/11/96 -0400, you wrote: > >> imho, re-issues are more desirable than compilations. > >I agree... As much as I love the "Exotic Moods of Les Baxter" >compilation, I would have preferred to have all the individual albums >re-released. > >Pablito You hear that Capitol??? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: All Third Man, All the Time Date: 11 Sep 1996 14:16:01 -0400 At 01:08 AM 8/8/96 -0700, you wrote: >I just completed a 90-minute tape consisting of 32 different versions of >"The Third Man Theme." And they said it couldn't (shouldn't?) be done! > >I am willing to provide a copy for a tape trade with any like-minded >perverse soul who's interested in exploring the musical possibilities of >this tune--or who needs something to clear out a party early. I will say >that "The Third Man Theme" holds up to this treatment much better than >"Misirlou" and "Exodus," to name a few other much-covered tunes. > Hey, that was you! Guess I'm peeving you off all over the place. Anyway, I've kept an eye out for 3rd Man on LPs. I have a 10" of Galloping Fingers by Ethel Smith to sell, and it's on some other new records I haven't gotten to yet. I'll trade any of my 3 "Torture Series(tm)" tapes, but I can't say my jones for the tune is quite that strong. Tony # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: Compilations/Reissues Date: 11 Sep 1996 14:14:04 -0400 At 10:43 AM 9/11/96 -0400, you wrote: >According to Paul Lewis: >> > imho, re-issues are more desirable than compilations. >> >> I agree... As much as I love the "Exotic Moods of Les Baxter" >> compilation, I would have preferred to have all the individual albums >> re-released. > >Right on! RCA reissues 5 (!) Morton Gould albums complete with >original covers, etc.....Capitol is doing quite well on sales >for their Ultra-Lounge series - why is it that we don't have 5 >Les Baxter originals?! There is a market for this. > >While I'm on the topic, I'd also like to complain about those >RCA reissues - Morton Gould? Where are the full Esquivel >releases? Hasn't RCA figured out that Esquivel sells far better >than Gould? No they haven't. They're dense. The good news is RCA/BMG of Europe (ne: Germany) is starting to release all of the Esquivel albums, individually on CD with the original (CD size of course) covers. Don't know if they have any bonus tracks on them though. Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: Compilations/Reissues Date: 11 Sep 1996 14:16:19 -0400 At 12:49 PM 9/11/96 -0400, you wrote: >I pride myself on scoring everything I'd like yet magically avoiding "dogs." >The Morton Gould "Jungle Drums" LP was SUCH a deception. Morton Gould is the >epitomy of everything wrong with "exotica" in the first place, its revival, >and the misguidedness of the major companies. But Marty Gold, now there's a cat. That might be what it is. They got Morton mixed up with Marty. (laughs) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Grant China Subject: RE: Compilations/Reissues Date: 11 Sep 1996 08:17:34 -1000 >According to Paul Lewis: >> > imho, re-issues are more desirable than compilations. >> >> I agree... As much as I love the "Exotic Moods of Les Baxter" >> compilation, I would have preferred to have all the individual albums >> re-released. > >Right on! RCA reissues 5 (!) Morton Gould albums complete with >original covers, etc.....Capitol is doing quite well on sales >for their Ultra-Lounge series - why is it that we don't have 5 >Les Baxter originals?! There is a market for this. And it's even worst when there are four or five compilations of a particular artist and 80% of each compilation is the same. Then the hardcore collector has to decide if he/she wants to buy all four CDs just for the 20% that he/she doesn't already have. Most of the Arthur Lyman CDs out there are like this. Of course, what would really be heavenly would be if a budget label like Laserlight or Excelsior could pick up the rights to some of these obscure albums and release them for $6. I have to admit that I've held back on a lot of good exotica because I don't want to spend $15.99 on a CD. Actually, Excelsior has released a lot of Enoch Light stuff for $6-7 but it's pretty plain big band music, not very provocative or persuasive. Aloha, Grant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patrick@xpedite.com (Patrick Cashin) Subject: Re: Compilations/Reissues Date: 11 Sep 1996 14:50:32 EDT ----- Begin Included Message ----- The good news is RCA/BMG of Europe (ne: Germany) is starting to release all of the Esquivel albums, individually on CD with the original (CD size of course) covers. Don't know if they have any bonus tracks on them though. ----- End Included Message ----- Is this solid? They're going to release *ALL* of them? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Baxter re-released Date: 11 Sep 1996 15:01:46 -0400 >>Baxter compilation, I would have preferred to have all the individual albums >You hear that Capitol??? ONLY if you stick two of them on one CD, make the [fake] stereo extremely well from the mono recordings, and charge no more than $10. I still say the Baxter artwork merits a 12" copy of every LP in every home. Enjoying a new, goofy, duophonic "Tamboo" right now, Tony "Dozen Baxters 4sale" Wilds Devil-God of the Music Cult (an arch Baxter reference, not nui pride, folks) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: guinto@id.ucsb.edu (Marie Guinto) Subject: Re: All Third Man, All the Time Date: 11 Sep 1996 12:55:51 -0800 >At 01:08 AM 8/8/96 -0700, you wrote: >>I just completed a 90-minute tape consisting of 32 different versions of >>"The Third Man Theme." And they said it couldn't (shouldn't?) be done! I just saw Tony's posting of this older message. I forgot though who wrote it....Fess up, because I would love a copy of the 90-minute tape. So whoever it is if you can email me at guinto@id.ucsb.edu. Thanks Marie guinto@id.ucsb.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: Re: WTB: Russ Garcia "Fantastica" Date: 11 Sep 1996 17:34:48 -0400 >Help ! > >I'm haveing a bad time trying to find a CD copy of Russ Garcia's >"Fantastica" (TOCP 8325 -Japan). > >Anyone out there know a source and/or can point me in the right direction I think its out of print again. It was available at Medium Rare Records in San Francisco (and they do phone orders), but when I inquired they said they couldn't get it anymore. Trying calling them anyway - it might be available again. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: All Third Man, All the Time Date: 11 Sep 1996 23:43:37 GMT On Sep 11, 1996 14:16:01, 'Tony Wilds ' wrote: >At 01:08 AM 8/8/96 -0700, you wrote: >>I just completed a 90-minute tape consisting of 32 different versions of >>"The Third Man Theme." And they said it couldn't (shouldn't?) be done! >> >>I am willing to provide a copy for a tape trade with any like-minded >>perverse soul who's interested in exploring the musical possibilities of >>this tune--or who needs something to clear out a party early. I will say >>that "The Third Man Theme" holds up to this treatment much better than >>"Misirlou" and "Exodus," to name a few other much-covered tunes. >> > >Hey, that was you! Guess I'm peeving you off all over the place. > >Anyway, I've kept an eye out for 3rd Man on LPs. I have a 10" of Galloping >Fingers by Ethel Smith to sell, and it's on some other new records I haven't >gotten to yet. > >I'll trade any of my 3 "Torture Series(tm)" tapes, but I can't say my jones >for the tune is quite that strong. ahhh...trading tapes, one of the the great pleasures! anyone interested in trading for a copy of my "cocktail music for robots," please contact me with what you got! jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cscheffy@kinglet.Berkeley.EDU (Clark Scheffy) Subject: Re: Compilations/Reissues Date: 11 Sep 1996 17:45:10 PDT Speaking of Esquivel, and how his stuff's been sorely missed as far as full album reissues go, hats off to Reprise for reissuing "More of Other World, Other Sounds Vol. II." Now there's a quality reissue! In all ways preserves the original and the sound quality is superb for a CD. Clark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: basic hip Subject: Re: All Third Man, All the Time Date: 11 Sep 1996 17:56:07 -0700 >I just saw Tony's posting of this older message. I forgot though who wrote >it....Fess up, because I would love a copy of the 90-minute tape. I'm almost sure it was Brad Bigelow...he has the Exotica Standard Page...can't remember the address...I'll dig it up..Brad, count me in, too. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: springer@nyc.pipeline.com (D. Scott Springer) Subject: (Fwd) Space Capades Date: 12 Sep 1996 01:09:47 GMT >----- Forwarded message (RLPowellJr@aol.com) -----< I received a copy of Space Capades (Capitol's Ultra Lounge Vol. 3) as a birthday present Friday. Wow! I love this stuff! So wonderfully Cold War-chips and dip-Populuxe (anyone else read this book?)! What I think is pretty cool is, the youngest tune on this disc was recorded when I was less than a year old. Sounds like I missed out on some really cool-sounding decades back there. Well, I must say that this disk is tolerable, but it REALLY pisses me off that Capitol is investing all this time and energy promoting these compilations when they should be reissuing some of the classic albums by Baxter, Riddle, Shearing, etc. in their original form on CD AND on vinyl (of course, we are told that there is only a small market for vinyl, but these days it costs very little to actually manufacture a CD and the markup is substantial while with vinyl the profit is, I would have to believe, much less). In any event, Capitol has butchered Space Escapade into little pieces of kooky geegaws served up in banal packaging designed to market this music for its kitsch value. I was shocked to hear that Capitol went so far as to tack "Jungalero" onto the back of "Shooting Star" on their "Cocktail Capers" CD. That is, they took two COMPLETELY UNRELATED movements and just juxtaposed them for no good reason. It is perhaps the same as taking the second movement of Poulenc's Piano Concerto and replacing it with the second movement of his Concert Champetre. It just does not make any sense. Baxter considered many of his early albums to be tone poems. To arbitrarily juxtapose movements and then deny the listener the pleasure of hearing the deleted movements is not any way to promote this music. CAPITOL RECORDS: Reissue these albums as they originally were, SANS THE ERSATZ GRAPHICS, DRINK RECIPES, ETC Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: Bleeker Bob's in L.A. Date: 11 Sep 1996 19:14:10 -0600 (MDT) jack, >something is wrong with this picture. this music should ALL be in print. >that's the point. it shouldn't be available piecemeal in some goddamn >"lounge compilations" cd box sets. all these records should be reissued on >cd (or whatever media we have to collapse into next), AS THEY WERE. I wholeheartedly agree that it would be much better if the LPs were released in their entirety, but I doubt there is a large enough market for all these reissues to happen. Buying the rights to an LP can be quite expensive. The companies that can afford it have to be very selective on what they reissue if they are smallish, and if they are large, they won't release something unless they think there is a major return on their investment. SCAMP do an excellent job on the reissues, but I doubt they have the money to license loads of whole LPs. Or I'm sure with their passion they would be doing that. > >i think i mentioned these cassette dj compilations of dance music (which we >all are familiar with..on the street for $10.00.) there is an infinite >number of these. the lounge cd's available at virgin records are probably >1/100 in number..but equal in value. i say, DON'T BUY THEM. who ARE these >people putting them together? They are indie rock radio dj's trying to make >an extra buck. I can't listen to any of them more than once, can you? what >an incredibe waste of money. > >my days of idealism are shot to hell, so i wouldn't suggest anything as >naive as banning these abortions, but i would suggest orienting purchases >towards re-issues as opposed to compilations. Compilations are a way of showcasing a kind a music that is out there. A lot of people might kinda like exotica, but not really know a helluva lot about it. A compilation is a useful springboard to find out about a few artists that are of true interest. Not many folk are going to rush out and buy a Les Baxter LP, a Martin Denny, an Yma Sumac, an Eden Ahbez, an Arthur Lyman....Most people simply aren't THAT interested. Obviously people on this list are, but I don't think we number 20,000. And a major probably isn't even going to consider reissuing an LP unless they are certain they will sell that much. The amount of money needed on marketing, licensing, packaging, promotion, blah, blah, blah. It simply isn't worth their while. Compilations also might capture the interest of a few wayward exotic lovers and lure them into a bigger interest, therefore creating a market where reissues in their entirety DO become profitable. Some compilations ARE cheap marketing gimmicks. But I don't think the Ultra Lounge or Space Age Pop series are necessarily in that vein. Nor are the IN FLIGHT ENTERTAINMENT and SOUND GALLERYs. Any other comments out there? > Jill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: springer@nyc.pipeline.com (D. Scott Springer) Subject: (Fwd) Re: Compilations/Reissues Date: 12 Sep 1996 01:15:02 GMT >----- Forwarded message (cscheffy@kinglet.Berkeley.EDU (Clark Scheffy)) -----< Speaking of Esquivel, and how his stuff's been sorely missed as far as full album reissues go, hats off to Reprise for reissuing "More of Other World, Other Sounds Vol. II." Now there's a quality reissue! In all ways preserves the original and the sound quality is superb for a CD. I agree completely. This was a wonderful reissue. It is too bad that Reprise doesn't have more Esquivel around someplace, but who knows, maybe there is another lost Esquivel album hanging out in the Reprise vaults somewhere! Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: Compilations/Reissues Date: 11 Sep 1996 19:22:35 -0600 (MDT) > >The good news is RCA/BMG of Europe (ne: Germany) is starting to release all >of the Esquivel albums, individually on CD with the original (CD size of >course) covers. Don't know if they have any bonus tracks on them though. > Yes, they do have bonus trax. Jill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: Ultra-Lounge Date: 11 Sep 1996 21:46:39 -0400 I think many of the Ultra-Lounge comps are brilliantly conceived -- Spacecapades, for example -- and applaud them. Anyone who has collected this stuff on the original vinyl has ended up with collections and compilations much more exploitative than these -- think of all the movie theme compilations most of us have accumulated over the years. I'm more interested in how a compiler can group together cuts to express a particular sensibility than in respecting the auteurish integrity of original albums, and I think most of the Ultra-Lounge entries capture a sensibility very well. Part of the genius of Spacecapades is that it seems to pull out moments vaguely remembered from the backgrounds of obscure old films. It's hard to imagine a world in which the original albums from which all these were taken would get individually reissued. Having said that, I notice curious reactions among my friends. Some of the most intensely awaited Ultra-Lounge albums, like the Crime Scene and Cha Cha de Amor, end up being the most disappointing, because we all feel we could have pulled together better comps from our own collections. It's the entries which surprise us with unexpected juxtapositions (like Bachelor Pad Royale) which work best. Will Will Straw Associate Professor, Graduate Program in Communications/ Director, The Centre for Research on Canadian Cultural Industries and Institutions McGill University 3465 rue Peel, Montreal, Quebec H3A 1W7 Phone: (514) 398 7667; Fax: (514) 398 4934 http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/programs/gpc/crccii/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: Bleeker Bob's in L.A. Date: 12 Sep 1996 02:00:34 GMT >Compilations also might capture the interest of a few wayward exotic lovers >and lure them into a bigger interest, therefore creating a market where >reissues in their entirety DO become profitable. Some compilations ARE cheap >marketing gimmicks. But I don't think the Ultra Lounge or Space Age Pop >series are necessarily in that vein. Nor are the IN FLIGHT ENTERTAINMENT and >SOUND GALLERYs. > >Any other comments out there? >> jill, you are, of course correct. i confess (and confessed) to posting under the influence. in fact, Space Age Pop (i wrote a letter of praise to irwin for his selection of stereo action selections) and the Sound Gallery (in hi-fi premiered Sound Gallery 2 last week) are among favorites of mine. I do think "Swingin' Singles" on Rhino kind of sucks, however. i would like to see a larger ratio of re-issues to compilations, quite honestly, for MY sake. all sorts of stuff gets re-issued for idealistic reasons. it's the kind of thing that i would do...invest money in a pet project and watch it go down the drain, but get some sort of satisfaction out of being a part of it. jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Sando" Subject: Re: Ultra-Lounge Date: 11 Sep 1996 21:06:10 +0000 > Having said that, I notice curious reactions among my friends. Some > of the most intensely awaited Ultra-Lounge albums, like the Crime > Scene and Cha Cha de Amor, end up being the most disappointing, > because we all feel we could have pulled together better comps from > our own collections. Amen! It's funny- I really liked Mambo Fever but Cha Cha de Amor is pretty weak. i think the Bachelor in Paris comp, which I was dreading, is very clever. The one thing I HATE is the mixing of two seperate songs together. this is OK for the radio but is frustrating on Ultra-Lounge. Coconut Grove, publishers of MisterLUCKY PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 http://www.wco.com/~coconutg/ "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades Date: 12 Sep 1996 04:56:25 GMT >CAPITOL RECORDS: >Reissue these albums as they originally were, SANS THE ERSATZ GRAPHICS, >DRINK RECIPES, ETC > >Scott > amen! jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bodiodo@aol.com Subject: Re: Baby Doll Date: 12 Sep 1996 01:51:03 -0400 Oh god! I remember that sultry, provocative poster from my early adolescence! I didn't "know" much about sex at the time, but I distinctly recall my stunned fascination with that image of Carol Baker lying on that bed, yes, sucking her thumb! That image was tremendously well crafted, and I understand the music was also, although I was never allowed to see the film while it was still popular. It was said to be scandalous. Thanks for reminding me! I'm going to find a copy of that album! Beau di Audeau # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keithd@netcom.com (Keith Doyle) Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades Date: 12 Sep 1996 00:58:54 PDT Scott writes: >In any event, Capitol has butchered Space Escapade into little pieces of >kooky geegaws served up in banal packaging designed to market this music >for its kitsch value. I was shocked to hear that Capitol went so far as to >tack "Jungalero" onto the back of "Shooting Star" on their "Cocktail >Capers" CD. That is, they took two COMPLETELY UNRELATED movements and just >juxtaposed them for no good reason. It is perhaps the same as taking the >second movement of Poulenc's Piano Concerto and replacing it with the >second movement of his Concert Champetre. It just does not make any sense. >Baxter considered many of his early albums to be tone poems. To >arbitrarily juxtapose movements and then deny the listener the pleasure of >hearing the deleted movements is not any way to promote this music. Yes, a great example is on the Tamboo album. My favorite song on there is by far, "Havana." What's interesting to note about the arrangement on the album, is the song that comes just before "Havana," called "Pantan" anticipates "Havana" with it's last three notes. "Pantan" definitely leads into "Havana." The problem is too many overpaid editors with not enough to do, thus we have the comp CD's bouncing from one thing to another, a completely out of context collage of "cool" historical elements just like the cover designs on the CDs, and details like the coherence and ambiance of the context of the original work are completely lost in their shallow aesthetics and infantile attention spans. The same symptom occurs when they have those TV shows, "America's Greatest TV Commercials." Sure, there's a lot of great old commercials, but do they show them to you? No, the editors are too busy working overtime cutting them into clips and flying them around the screen with their video effects gear for that. Some say they're trying to "broaden the appeal" without stopping to consider that the appeal can become so broad that everyone finds it equally boring, though likely for different reasons. Modern media geeks seem to think that if it isn't totally hyperactive and spastic it won't command anyone's attention. Take the current spate of "educational" kids programs for example, "Bill Nye, the Science Guy" and "Beakman's World." I think what it really shows is that if it isn't totally hyperactive and spastic it won't command the attention of the average media geek. There's gotta be something to allow the sound effect guy to justify his existance and keep from getting bored, let's have every slightest movement everyone makes on the show punctuated with cartoon sound effects. Kinda like "Wired" magazine-- content is so old fashioned, we should completely obscure it with what really matters-- "style." I wonder what will happen when a bunch of kids grow up and think that being a scientist must be like putting your head in the washing machine and turning it on and watching all of the pretty colors of the different clothes dancing around. It appears that is the only thing the media currently thinks might be interesting about being a scientist. Keith Doyle keithd@netcom.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RogerScho@aol.com Subject: Re: Compilations/Reissues Esquivel Date: 12 Sep 1996 04:16:29 -0400 Hi list, yes there are some reissues on BMG/RCA here in Germany, I saw: Strings Aflame Other Worlds Other Sounds Four Corners of the world They all have bonus traxs. I think we got more. All are from original masters, and with original artwork, unfortunately NOT on 12" size (which is a shame, why no vinyl reissues as the Bar None Compis ?). They are mid-priced here (which means 25 DM, which is ca. 15 US $). greetings +++roger+++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Perl Subject: Black Caesar Date: 12 Sep 1996 11:46:00 +0100 I recently picked up James Brown's soundtrack to 'Black Caesar' at a table top sale for 10p (15c). It is really excellent - lots of cool instrumentals and good hammond stuff. Comes in a kind of gatefold cut out sleeve with James Brown's face peeping out. A polydor USA release (1973). Does anyone know any more about this? Thanks Jonny jonathan@cursci.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: basic hip Subject: Marie's the name Date: 12 Sep 1996 05:53:52 -0700 Sorry list, for the private E-mail... Marie, you are on! I'll make it quick...please send your E-mail address - I have the snail mail, but lost the E-mail. Then we will get started, OK? FoRd # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@nyc.pipeline.com (lou smith) Subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: Compilations/Reissues Date: 12 Sep 1996 13:46:37 GMT On Sep 12, 1996 01:15:02, 'springer@nyc.pipeline.com (D. Scott Springer)' wrote: >I agree completely. This was a wonderful reissue. It is too bad that >Reprise doesn't have more Esquivel around someplace, but who knows, maybe >there is another lost Esquivel album hanging out in the Reprise vaults >somewhere! > >Scott Well, Reprise doesn't have a lost Esquivel album in its vaults but RCA/BMG is suspected to have the GREAT lost Esquivel album in its own vaults. I first learned of the possible existance of 'See It In Sound' from an article by Br. Cleve and Irwin that was printed in Cool & Strange Music! Mag #2. Is this story common knowledge by now? If not, perhaps Br. Cleve can give a summary and news update. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com Subject: Cool and Strange Music? Date: 12 Sep 1996 09:59:08 -0400 >I first learned of the possible existance of 'See It In Sound' >from an >article by Br. Cleve >and Irwin that was printed in Cool & Strange Music! Mag #2. Never heard of this magazine. Please inform me. Thanks. Bob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mlove@olywa.net (Matt Love) Subject: Little Jack Melody & His Young Turks Date: 12 Sep 1996 07:44:44 -0800 I promise this is the last time I'll post about Little Jack Melody and His Young Turks for a long time. You've been very patient, and haven't flamed me, though their kind of music isn't too relevant to the list. The fact is, I can't help be evangelical about their music, I'm certain everybody who hears it will love it, everybody deserves a chance to hear it, and this list seems like it's made up of a lot of discerning and fun loving people, so I share with you once again. I ended up doing the Olympia show as a house party, (they were in town the day before my birthday, so I called it a birthday party - they even played a manic polka version of "Happy Birthday" for me). It was one of the best time of my life. They have these dates left on their "Return to the west" tour: Thursday the 12th- San Francisco, Cafe du Nord; (415) 861-7244 Friday the 13th- Los Angeles, CA, LunaPark, cabaret stage, 9:15. Appearance earlier in the day on KCRW FM on the "Morning Becomes Eclectic" show. Saturday the 14th- San Diego, CA, The Casbah, w/ the Geraldine Fibbers. Check them out if you can make it! Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: POOH-BEAR Subject: Re: Cool and Strange Music? Date: 12 Sep 1996 10:45:29 -0500 (EST) i would like to be taken off the mailing list # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@nyc.pipeline.com (lou smith) Subject: Re: Cool and Strange Music? Date: 12 Sep 1996 15:00:51 GMT On Sep 12, 1996 09:59:08, 'HOUSEOBOB@aol.com' wrote: >>I first learned of the possible existance of 'See It In Sound' >from an >>article by Br. Cleve >>and Irwin that was printed in Cool & Strange Music! Mag #2. > > >Never heard of this magazine. Please inform me. Thanks. Bob Jeez, I thought everyone on this list had a subscription :+) Cool And Strange Music! Magazine (yes, it is an unfortunate name, isn't it) is a quarterly now up to its 2nd issue. Subscriptions are $12US/year ($19/rest o' the world). You can contact Dana Countryman (publisher/editor) at: P.O. Box 8501, Everett, WA 98201 e-mail:coolstrge@aol.com fax:(206) 303-3404 If you ask, I think Dana'll send you a free copy of #1 so you can get a taste. Wayno did a fabulous cover illo of Ferrante&Teicher for issue#2. Anyway, I don't want to sound like a shill for the mag so get yer own damn copy, dagnabbit. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jay Watterworth Subject: Re: Laser Turntable for DJ's (fwd) Date: 11 Sep 1996 11:06:36 -0600 (MDT) This was a post that came to me that I fwd'ed to this group. The number for Pioneer New Media, Long Beach, CA is (310) 952-2111. Good luck and good listening! Jay On Wed, 11 Sep 1996, Tony Wilds wrote: > >It is manufactured by Pioneer Electonics out of Japan and has the model number > >CDJ500. > > > >I believe that we have a brochure in the building here somewhere that I can > >track down if anyone wants more info. > > Yes, please, and thx for earlier info on topic. > > Tony Wilds > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RALPHA6982@aol.com Subject: My CD for Stations/Mags Date: 12 Sep 1996 14:21:33 -0400 Hello... I've put out a very unique CD of spoken word, jazz, Beatnik, garage rock, and lounge (trio style-piano, snare/brushes, vocals), recorded live in front of about 50 very drunk people, which is very hard to describe since there are 41 tracks and over 70 mins of music. There are covers of "Ring The Bells" (Kinks), "Why Shouldn't I?" (Porter) and "Let's Fall In Love" plus weirdness galore, like original lounge songs I wrote in Italian. When I say spoken word, don't be afraid, there is musical backing throughout. The whole endeavour is firmly in late 50s to mid 60s ambiance without any of the "HEY! We're doing a 60s thing" crap. I actually grew up with this music. There are also TONS of liner notes, lyrics, etc. since I design CD covers for a living and do lots of re-issues so I totally dig information. Altho it is available nationally in Canada, I have no distribution elsewhere and would love to send review copies to legit radio shows/zines/mags. Also, any distribution ideas would be appreciated. I publish a zine myself called RALPH (Coffee, Jazz and Poetry) which I send everywhere for free. The CD has been played on Jack Diamond's show plus WFMU and other places that responded to my last post. I have another CD out called OLYMPIA 66 totally dedicated to the Mod-Beat connection, but that's a whole other kettle of fish. I perform live and just finished a two-week tour that included New York, Toronto, Montreal, Halifax, Ottawa, etc. We had a lot of fun and I currently do a wild version of "Roman Guitars" live with the Italian lyrics plus my own English translation since the original English lyrics suck big time. Audiences flip on it and it's quite the show-stopper (think Louis Prima meets 60s Italian garage rockers). I had to sift through versions by Lou Monte, Robert Alda and others (all slurring the Italian lyrics) before I hit jackpot- Dino Robbins on Kent Records!! And, of course, my mom (duh! should've asked her first). Anyway, I appreciate your time/help. Ralph Alfonso Box 505 1288 Broughton Vancouver, BC Canada, V6G 2B5 email: ralpha6982@aol.com work: 604-654-2929 fax: 604-654-1993 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: too much Torme? Date: 12 Sep 1996 15:12:44 -0400 My latest offering from the Associated Press...Again, I hope this is helpful and not junk mail to many of you...Light a candle for him. Lounge Laura laura@wusf.usf.edu MEL TORME (Los Angeles) -- Mel Torme's birthday is starting to look brighter. Torme turns 71 tomorrow -- and doctors say they're encouraged by the progress he's making since suffering a stroke five weeks ago. Torme is in his third day of neurological rehab. His publicist says Torme is now able to stand. He says doctors will know more about what Torme's future holds within the next ten days. Torme will spend his birthday with his wife and five kids. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MoeLawns@aol.com Subject: FOR STEPHAN Date: 12 Sep 1996 16:21:51 -0400 Hi group! Excuse me for a moment while I try to get someones attention! This is a message for Stefan Keary whom I've been trying to email for days now. The message keeps getting returned as undeliverable. Stefan, please email me and I'll paste my new message in a reply and we'll see if that works. Thanks everyone for your patience! Lee # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Quincy Jones Date: 12 Sep 1996 14:22:29 +0000 Hello, If you want a killer diller Quincy Jones cd/lp then get; Ray Charles - Genius Plus Soul = Jazz on Impulse from 1961 There are 4 vocals out of 13 titles (I believe 13) and the rest are instros with Ray in front wailin' on his ORGAN, nooooo not that organ;) The orchestra is Count Basies with Quincy Jones arranging and conducting and mannnnnnnnn let me tell you...this is the shit!!! This is the stuff YOU WANT Johan!!! One Mint Julep, Mr C, I've Got News For You....this rips Now don't say I never did anything nice for you ;) Bye for now, Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: Compilations/Reissues Esquivel Date: 12 Sep 1996 19:28:52 -0400 At 04:16 AM 9/12/96 -0400, you wrote: >Hi list, > >yes there are some reissues on BMG/RCA here in Germany, I saw: > > Strings Aflame > Other Worlds Other Sounds > Four Corners of the world > >They all have bonus traxs. >I think we got more. All are from original masters, and with original >artwork, >unfortunately NOT on 12" size (which is a shame, why no vinyl reissues as the > >Bar None Compis ?). They are mid-priced here (which means 25 DM, which is >ca. 15 US $). There ya go Patrick. And they aren't that hard to get. I got "Other Worlds, Other Sounds" on order for $16.99. The reissues even use minatures of the original liner notes directly off the album. My "More Music From Peter Gunn" import is like this with high qualitity, "Living Stereo" sound. With these three released, there are what, another four to go? Yes? No? Maybe they will release The Three Suns individually as well. Who knows? Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades Date: 12 Sep 1996 19:35:10 -0400 At 01:09 AM 9/12/96 GMT, you wrote: >CAPITOL RECORDS: >Reissue these albums as they originally were, SANS THE ERSATZ GRAPHICS, >DRINK RECIPES, ETC I agree with that. They did it with Yma Sumac, George Shearing, The Beatles, The Beach Boys etc... It can be done. Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: Quincy Jones Date: 12 Sep 1996 20:28:26 -0500 On the eeeezy vinyl side, there's a thrift bin record I found way back called Twilight Time by Eddie Barclay, arranged by QJ. Cover close-up of a green eyed brunette looking off mysteriously to the side. It's crystal clear muzak with a unique use of wordless vocals as instruments, subtley blending in and out of the mix, popping out every now and then and one tune written by Mr. Jones which is excellent cartoonish fun (Mon P'tit Pote). Doo-yoo-dooyut! kevin king xanadu@radix.net http://www.radix.net/~xanadu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com Subject: Three Suns = ? Date: 12 Sep 1996 21:20:21 -0400 Just got a three disc set of Three Suns 78's called "Your Christmas Favorites" containing 6 christmas tunes: Jingle Bells, Winter Wonderland, Silent Night, White Christmas, Santa Claus is Coming & Adeste Fideles. Is it rare? Worth anything? It's in very good shape. Thanks, Bob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: the grave robberz Date: 12 Sep 1996 21:51:21 -0400 Does anyone know: 1. If this name is already taken? 2. If I'll be sued should I use it? thanks! lounge laura laura@wusf.usf.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Esquivel Full LP's Date: 12 Sep 1996 21:44:36 +0000 I've seen Other Worlds Other Sounds as a full LP release on CD. I think it's on German RCA Anyone have his 1st LP "To Love Again" recorded in Mexico with Mexican musicians and re-released on RCA in 1957, MONO ONLY ? It's a great one ;-)> Also of note is that something was just released on Turner Classic Movies I'm going to review ot for KFJC that has an Esquivel track that was on the flip to the 45 of Whachamacallit called Dancing in The Dark. It's got a few other great titles also including Ann-Margaret, Les Baxter, Ferrante & Teicher among many others It's music from M-G-M Films Diamond # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maravillo@aol.com Subject: Re: That new Levi's commercial is great!!! Date: 13 Sep 1996 01:59:00 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-07 20:50:08 EDT, you write: << honourable mention for the new Levi's add for the fifth pocket. The music on that one is great. The comercial itself is also done very exotic-like. Stay Swingin' -Jack Weber >> yeah, I asked a coupla weeks ago if anyone knew where the music came from, but noone had an answer, I mean you'd figure in a place like this,,, Challenge, Maravillo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: the grave robberz Date: 13 Sep 1996 05:46:11 -0600 (MDT) >Does anyone know: >1. If this name is already taken? >2. If I'll be sued should I use it? >thanks! >lounge laura >laura@wusf.usf.edu Laura, Don't know if it exists, but GRAVE DIGGERZ is a hip hop band, I believe.... Jill > > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Kilmartin Subject: Re: Esquivel Full LP's Date: 13 Sep 1996 07:52:03 -0400 At 09:44 PM 12/09/1996 +0000, you wrote: >I've seen Other Worlds Other Sounds as a full LP release on CD. >I think it's on German RCA I've seen that one as an import up here. Prohibitively expensive, those things are, what? >Also of note is that something was just released on Turner Classic Movies >I'm going to review ot for KFJC that has an Esquivel track that was on the >flip to the 45 of Whachamacallit called Dancing in The Dark. > >It's got a few other great titles also including Ann-Margaret, Les Baxter, >Ferrante & Teicher among many others >It's music from M-G-M Films What's that sucker called? Sounds tasty.... Joe in Toronto P.S.: We should all congratulate Miss Alison here in Toronto for keeping the manic spirit of a Blake Edwaeds cocktail party alive at her Festival of Festivals Lounge Productions bash last Tuesday night. The world needs more people like her introducing the glory of Lounge to the masses... >simper, gush, gush...< # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Kilmartin Subject: Re: too much Torme? Date: 13 Sep 1996 07:59:11 -0400 At 03:12 PM 12/09/1996 -0400, you wrote: >My latest offering from the Associated Press...Again, I hope this is helpful >and not junk mail to many of you... Not at all... As the truly Boss lounge figures are all getting older, we should at least honour their work as best we can. Besides, I want to know this kind of stuff.. >MEL TORME > (Los Angeles) -- Mel Torme's birthday is starting to look brighter. Torme >turns 71 tomorrow -- and doctors say they're encouraged by the progress he's >making since suffering a stroke five weeks ago. Torme is in his third day of >neurological rehab. His publicist says Torme is now able to stand. He says >doctors will know more about what Torme's future holds within the next ten >days. Torme will spend his birthday with his wife and five kids. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Kilmartin Subject: Jimmy Smith Date: 13 Sep 1996 08:03:35 -0400 Haven't seen Jimmy's name out here yet. Anybody else a big fan of the organ man? "The Cat" and "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolfe (pts. 1&2)" are MUST LAY party tunes hereabouts... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: Esquivel Full LP's Date: 13 Sep 1996 10:28:46 -0400 At 07:52 AM 9/13/96 -0400, you wrote: >At 09:44 PM 12/09/1996 +0000, you wrote: >>I've seen Other Worlds Other Sounds as a full LP release on CD. >>I think it's on German RCA > >I've seen that one as an import up here. Prohibitively expensive, those >things are, what? Not this one at $16.99. IMOP, Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cscheffy@kinglet.Berkeley.EDU (Clark Scheffy) Subject: Re: Jimmy Smith Date: 13 Sep 1996 07:50:23 PDT A huge fan, but exotica? What is exotica? Jimmy Smith? In truth, one of the things I've loved about this list is not only exotica, but the fact that so many people hera just love good music... I would never have known about Beat Girl or a number of other exotica and un-exotica items, or had the chance to rap about them, had it not been for this list. So, I say, Jimmy Smith indeed... Eight Counts for Rita, can you dig? Clark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Adam Hill Subject: Re: My CD for Stations/ Date: 12 Sep 1996 15:34:39 -0400 (EDT) How can one go about buying your CD . It sounds very interesting John HIll Department of Economics Northeaster State Univeristy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stefan.kery@subliminal.se (STEFAN KERY) Subject: new e-mail adress for Subliminal Sounds Date: 13 Sep 1996 11:04:27 +0200 (MET DST) Aloha everybody, after some confusing days I discovered I had a new e-mail adress. stefan.kery@mailbox.swipnet.se please use that for future corenspondance. All the best Stefan/Subliminal Sounds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gerald Ross Subject: MIDI sequences Date: 13 Sep 1996 11:22:59 -0400 Hi, I am new to this list. Question: Does anyone else in this group sequence MIDI tunes. I am always interested in hearing other arranger's musical ideas. Thanks -- Gerald Ross Ann Arbor, MI My Home Page... MIDI Cha-Cha, Polka, Swing, Mambo and More! http://www-personal.umich.edu/~gbross/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades Date: 13 Sep 1996 11:32:15 -0500 Keith Doyle wrote: > Scott writes: > > >In any event, Capitol has butchered Space Escapade into little > >pieces of kooky geegaws served up in banal packaging designed to > >market this music for its kitsch value. I was shocked to hear that > >Capitol went so far as to tack "Jungalero" onto the back of > >"Shooting Star" on their "Cocktail Capers" CD. > The problem is too > many overpaid editors with not enough to do, thus we have the comp > CD's bouncing from one thing to another, a completely out of context > collage of "cool" historical elements just like the cover designs on > the CDs, and details like the coherence and ambiance of the context > of the original work are completely lost in their shallow aesthetics > and infantile attention spans. Wow! Lighten up folks... Wasn't the initial (has it changed?) intention of Capitol to release the comps and follow them with full singles? I haven't heard "Cocktail Capers," which sounds awful, but as a non-purist at heart, I am very appreciative of the comps. Let's face it, much of this music IS most interesting when juxtaposed in snippets as Will Straw pointed out. Why do you think so many of us enjoy putting our own comp tapes together? Focusing on a theme or sound - I'd say it has more to do with active listening than short attention spans. Of course some Lps DO benefit from a full listen, not denying that. But if both formats were immediately available, I certainly would opt for the comps first as I am not only non-purist, but non-wealthy. There's a ton of material sampled here. kevin king xanadu@radix.net http://www.radix.net/~xanadu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: CD reissues Date: 13 Sep 1996 12:10:42 -0400 >It simply isn't worth their while. >Any other comments out there? The economics you mention did/does not apply to vinyl, and really not to CDs either. Cross-label rights and their valuation are a hurdle that Rhino at least seems to have jumped. And supply creates demand to some extent when DJs (and their sponsors) do their job well, which also may be asking too much these days (mutual cause and effect on a planet of plastic). In the future, there will be no mass-marketed packaged media. It's the Internet. Of course, the lowly consumer likely will feel the automatic spindle yet again. I never voted for CDs, mini-discs, DAC, dolby B, 8-track, quad, laserdisc, VHS, low-bias cassettes, and lots of other inferior/redundant technology. How DARE some techno-nerds with ZERO AESTHETIC APPRECIATION "decide" what my threshold of conscious or subliminal hearing can or should tolerate? Viva vinyl and dbx. Wishing you a sampling-free tomorrow, Tony "snap, crackle, pop" Wilds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades Date: 13 Sep 1996 13:00:53 -0400 At 11:32 AM 9/13/96 -0500, you wrote: > >Wow! Lighten up folks... Wasn't the initial (has it changed?) >intention of Capitol to release the comps and follow them with full >singles? Where did you hear that at Kevin? Inquiring minds want to know.... Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: lost in wonder Date: 13 Sep 1996 13:20:21 -0400 Saw the LOST EPISODE__ CD__ last night, and wondered if that was the "remastered" version that is so oft refered to on this list...The CD had nothing on it to indicate whether it was indeed remastered, or just a version of the uh, un-remastered(?) 10" that came out recently? Someone help this confused Les-lass.. Les-less Lounge Laura laura@wusf.usf.edu "it's just my nature to do weird stuff..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Esquivels to want & buy Date: 13 Sep 1996 13:38:08 -0400 >Anyone have his 1st LP "To Love Again" recorded in Mexico with Mexican >musicians and re-released on RCA in 1957, MONO ONLY ? >It's a great one ;-)> Selling an imported EP version of the Mexican release (titled "A Macia do Amor"), 4 songs, VG+/E-, $20. Yeah, it's pricey, and so are (less any discount for exotiteers): Four Corners of the World, VG-/VG-, S $5 Infinity in Sound I, E+/E+, S $40 Infinity in Sound II, E/E+, S $40 Infinity in Sound II, E-/E, $28 Latin-Esque, orig. Stereo Action, VG+/VG+ (smudge/plays very well), S $40 >flip to the 45 of Whachamacallit called Dancing in The Dark. MY Whachamacallit 45 has "I Feel Merely Marvelous." Ohhh, the inadequacy. ;) Tony "shamelessly hungry" Wilds wilds@charm.net "RECORD LIST" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: springer@nyc.pipeline.com (D. Scott Springer) Subject: Beating the Ultra Lounge horse to death Date: 13 Sep 1996 17:42:55 GMT >----- Forwarded message ("kevin king" ) -----< Of course some Lps DO benefit from a full listen, not denying that. But if both formats were immediately available, I certainly would opt for the comps first as I am not only non-purist, but non-wealthy. There's a ton of material sampled here. Well, I would venture to say that ALL LPs benefit from a full listen. When I prepare my sets for Bar d'O, I inevitably end up selecting tunes that are not necessarily the best known ones on certain albums because many of these are far superior to the tracks that are "popular." The problem with many of these compilations is that the tunes are simply "the best of" which usually equals, imho, "the worst of." While I believe that Irwin Chusid's compilations are truly exceptional, I cannot say the same about Ultra Lounge. As far as the non-wealthy comment, I would say why waste money on a pathetic compliation if one can have the real thing. There are about twelve Ultra Lounges out now and only ONE Baxter reissue (Baxter's Best, see comment above...). I hoped that Capitol would have at least done Jewels of the Sea or Ritual of the Savage by now, but as far as I can tell, Capitol has no plans to do any more Baxter reissues. I wrote several letters to Capitol years ago pleading for them to reissue these Baxter albums, but I received no response whatsoever. Then all of a sudden the barrage of Ultra Lounge started. So you can see why I am pissed. Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Boyd Subject: Good record shops in SF? Date: 13 Sep 1996 11:20:17 -0700 Hey, I'm heading into San Francisco tonight to see Combustible Edison (like many of you, I'm sure), and I was wondering if any of you folks on the list know of any good record shops to check out while I'm in the city. Please reply via e-mail, as I am leaving tonight and would like to get some replies ASAP. Thanks a lot, Jeph (boyd@csus.edu) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I never took drugs because I AM drugs." - Salvador Dali http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/2084 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Real-life Faster Pussycat Date: 13 Sep 1996 14:25:00 -0400 Sorry to spam an offlist msg yestiddy (naturally, that got more response than my other nonsense). Here's some more juicy-but-inappropriate nonsense to account for some erratic dis- and re- appearances: I kicked offline in order to call The Law to break up this major, three-hour Battle to the Near-Death between two SuperVixens. One, a DANGEROUSLY volatile Amazon, refused to leave until [much bemused] legal intervention occurred. I WISH she had been Tura Satana, put it that way. The other now is the latest victim here at Casa Tiki (a new sweetie, if only I can remember what-all's involved in the girlfriend thing). It was like Sarah Conner and Arnold facing the stalk of the Terminatress. And after a scary, urban-warrior experience like that, the good one and I just had to find love, like in the movies. Now I am NOT bragging; it wasn't like the ultimate catfight was even over me or anything. It was NOT fun (and I passed on wrassling a gal -- might have damaged the records!). It was just plain old Krazee Evil versus Sane Good, and I happened to be the unlucky ringmaster. Wish me luck as I dust off and mend the old courtin' suit (and quietly listen to a few dozen records in the dark). Temporarily very paranoid, but unafraid to lively up the machine, T "good boy hereafter" W ** The analog life ain't no good life, but it's my life. ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gerald Ross Subject: Newsgroup for this mailing list? Date: 13 Sep 1996 14:51:08 -0400 Is there a Usenet newsgroup associated with this mailing list? So many messages, so little time and disk space. -- Gerald Ross Ann Arbor, MI My Home Page... MIDI Cha-Cha, Polka, Swing, Mambo and More! http://www-personal.umich.edu/~gbross/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: Beating the Ultra Lounge horse to death Date: 13 Sep 1996 14:57:37 -0500 D. Scott Springer wrote: > >----- Forwarded message ("kevin king" ) > >-----< > > Of course some Lps DO benefit from a full listen, > not denying that. But if both formats were immediately available, I > certainly would opt for the comps first as I am not only > non-purist, but non-wealthy. There's a ton of material sampled > here. > > > Well, I would venture to say that ALL LPs benefit from a full > listen. If you mean benefitting by providing the listener with a fuller idea of the album's concept, I agree. However, that concept isn't always well defined, consistent or even interesting and many an album - present or past - would benefit it's own concept with a trim here or there. > When I prepare my sets for Bar d'O, I inevitably end up > selecting tunes that are not necessarily the best known ones on > certain albums because many of these are far superior to the tracks > that are "popular." The problem with many of these compilations is > that the tunes are simply "the best of" which usually equals, imho, > "the worst of." While I believe that Irwin Chusid's compilations > are truly exceptional, I cannot say the same about Ultra Lounge. Well, we disagree here. My main complaint with UL is the stereofication which has been discussed (only because I prefer the SOUND of the mono originals). But I only have the first three - the others haven't been too tempting for me. And the Stereo Action set is great, but uneven - some real misses included, some hits excluded (where's Shadrack?). Now, with the best of's, I still think both the first Esquivel and the Rhino Denny comps are two of the VERY best exotica cds out there period! After hearing full Lps from both, I'm only more conviced of how excellent those collections are. > As far as the non-wealthy comment, I would say why waste money on a > pathetic compliation if one can have the real thing. There are about > twelve Ultra Lounges out now and only ONE Baxter reissue (Baxter's > Best, see comment above...). I hoped that Capitol would have at > least done Jewels of the Sea or Ritual of the Savage by now, but as > far as I can tell, Capitol has no plans to do any more Baxter > reissues. So they've changed their minds (?) about the full re-release thing. That stinks. Especially for an expert like yourself, I see your point. But you may be missing mine about the economy of comps for us amateurs. Think of someone with virgin ears not knowing which artists may be of interest given a choice between a varied compilation and a single re-release of one unknown artist. In a thrift bin I'd go for the unknown. In a cd bin, I'd definitely sample from the comp. To state the obvious, that must have been Capitol's marketing strategy. Still don't understand those Goulds though!? > I wrote several letters to Capitol years ago pleading for them to > reissue these Baxter albums, but I received no response whatsoever. > Then all of a sudden the barrage of Ultra Lounge started. So you > can see why I am pissed. Yes, it especially stinks that they didn't at least communicate with you. Here's one I'd like to see re-issued - Perez Prado's Rockambo! on RCA !!! kevin king xanadu@radix.net http://www.radix.net/~xanadu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades Date: 13 Sep 1996 14:59:17 -0500 bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com wrote: > >Wow! Lighten up folks... Wasn't the initial (has it changed?) > >intention of Capitol to release the comps and follow them with full > > singles? > > Where did you hear that at Kevin? Inquiring minds want to know.... I might be misinformed on this - just remember seeing it posted by someone in-the-know a while back. kevin king xanadu@radix.net http://www.radix.net/~xanadu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: huge@sirius.com (Huge Graphics) Subject: Re: That new Levi's commercial is great!!! Date: 13 Sep 1996 12:36:23 -0700 >In a message dated 96-09-07 20:50:08 EDT, you write: > ><< honourable mention for the new Levi's add for the fifth pocket. The music > on that one is great. The comercial itself is also done very exotic-like. > > Stay Swingin' > -Jack Weber > >> >yeah, I asked a coupla weeks ago if anyone knew where the music came from, >but noone had an answer, I mean you'd figure in a place like this,,, > >Challenge, >Maravillo > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. Sounds like a fancy-style commercial jingle done by a Hollywood Jingle-meister...Sure it sounds a lot better than most commercials, but I don't think it comes from any "classic" source... David "It is just my nature to do boring stuff..." David Bailey Huge Graphics http://www.sirius.com/~huge # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@nyc.pipeline.com (lou smith) Subject: Re: Newsgroup for this mailing list? Date: 13 Sep 1996 19:40:31 GMT On Sep 13, 1996 14:51:08, 'Gerald Ross ' wrote: >Is there a Usenet newsgroup associated with this mailing list? > >So many messages, so little time and disk space. Here's a few to try: alt.exotic-music rec.music.dementia rec.music.marketplace.vinyl rec.music.collecting.vinyl Gotta warn you though - This list is higher signal:noise than any of the newsgroups. If your time is in short supply ... -L # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades Date: 13 Sep 1996 16:17:30 -0400 I'd have to agree with Kevin. I don't like listening to a whole CD of one artist. I love the mixes of different artists, styles and music. The compilations are just right for me, and for others to put this down, to me, is inappropriate. The two artists that I DO like to listen to on one CD are Les Baxter and Arthur Lyman. Oh, and Martin Denny. However,the Ultra Lounge compilations are fantastic. I love all of them except the Cha Cha one, and I only play it on occastion. My favorite is Bachelor Pad Royale. I don't know who started the rumor that Cocktail Capers is bad. It's VERY good. Especially "Hey Bellboy!". That song is constantly going thru my head. I agree with Kevin that some of you need to lighten up a bit and just thank your lucky stars that this stuff is available in the first place. I don't think there are a lot of people who are as hyped about this music as we are. I often ask people what they think of the bachelor pad/space age/exotica/lounge music and ten times out of ten I get "What's that?" Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Lewis Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades Date: 13 Sep 1996 16:44:33 -0400 (EDT) > Wow! Lighten up folks... Wasn't the initial (has it changed?) > intention of Capitol to release the comps and follow them with full > singles? I really hope so. If it can be done for Yma Sumac, why not Les Baxter? I think that Capitol will discover how well that the 2CD "Exotic Moods of Les Baxter" sells and will come back with individual albums (or maybe 2 per CD). If the Martin Denny and Yma Sumac discs are selling, I'm sure that Les could. The Tower Records in Philly went through a TON of Yma discs. There were over a dozen of each title and all but maybe one of each went in about a month. A bunch of Exotica/Exotica II and Afro-Desias sold also. They went through multiples of the "Exotic Moods" double disc and now they have about a dozen of them which will probably also sell. If bootleggers can sell those Tamboo! discs, why not legit releases for less money? There is definitely a market. If the lesser names in exotica can sell (excluding Martin and Yma in that statement, of course), Les Baxter the supreme king will reign over all... Pablito! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vinyllives@earthlink.net (R.Preston Peek) Subject: Exotica / Et Cetera LP List #6 Is DONE!!! Date: 13 Sep 1996 15:02:19 -0700 (PDT) You heard right -- I've finally wrestled this bear to the ground. It's at the printers, and when I get back from the West Coast next week, out it flies. A few quick facts: --> 758 exotica, cheesecake, spoken word, SABPM, cartoon, belly dance and just plain FUN original issue LPs (Baxter Frontiere Esquivel Hayman Hopkins Lyman Kochak Mottola Nordine Rugulo Riddle Popp Scott Sumac 3 Suns--not to mention The Waltons Tiny Tim Snagglepuss Laverne&Shirley Jayne Mansfield and Anita Ekberg); --> 192 hip&hep soundtracks (Batman Flying Nun Daktari Blow Up Man From UNCLE The Prisoner Wild Wheels Satan in High Heels); --> 463 jazz blues vocalists reggae folk (Coltrane Bob Wills Chet Baker Woody Guthrie Bro. Jack McDuff Penquin Cafe Orch (!?) Mingus Bob Marley Ma Rainey Swingle Singers Les Strand); and --> 330 rock/alternative (Mothers/Zappa Beefheart Dead Can Dance Cramps Cream Traffic Tom Waits Clive Pig John Mayall Hendrix Dylan Bill Nelson Nico Velvet Underground).... NOT TO MENTION--357 cover photos, 2 reviews, and assorted fun stuff throughout! This list is FREE (need your snail mail address) EXCEPT if you got my last list and did not order anything--mailing/printing costs are way too high for me to keep sending these out gratis--however, if you ordered from the last list, (or since the last list) you're cool--otherwise, just drop me $2 US / $3 non-US for a copy--I'll be including instructions for ways to keep getting the lists without having to go through this every time... THANKS for bearing with me in this post, hope it didn't interrupt the flow too much.... Preston Peek VINYL LIVES! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: lost in wonder Date: 13 Sep 1996 19:44:12 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-13 13:36:05 EDT, you write: >Saw the LOST EPISODE__ CD__ last night, and wondered if that was the >"remastered" version that is so oft refered to on this list...The CD had >nothing on it to indicate whether it was indeed remastered, or just a version >of the uh, un-remastered(?) 10" that came out recently? Someone help this >confused Les-lass.. >Les-less Lounge Laura >laura@wusf.usf.edu >"it's just my nature to do weird stuff..." The remastered version has a sticker on it that says it is remastered - what you saw was probably old stock. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: anita_serwacki@newline.com (ANITA SERWACKI) Subject: Wickerman Date: 13 Sep 1996 15:29:41 -0400 Anyone ever see a soundtrack for "The Wickerman" and if so is it any good? Thanks - Anita anita_serwacki@newline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bryan Jare Cuevas Subject: Brigitte Bardot Date: 13 Sep 1996 18:25:01 -0400 (EDT) Just picked up Brigitte Bardot, "Le Disque d'Or" (Disc'AZ)...but no dates listed :( Anyone know the recording/release dates of the following: ********************** Harley Davidson Marseillaise generique Mister Sun Ay que viva la sangria David B. Gang Gang Saint Tropez Port Grimaud Oh qu'il est vilain Paris Je reviendrai toujours vers toi On demenage Le diable est anglais Ce n'est pas vrai Contact ********************** Thanks bryan c. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thom Heileson Subject: CD comps / reissues Date: 13 Sep 1996 11:34:29 -0700 D. Scott Springer sez: >it REALLY pisses me off >that Capitol is investing all this time and energy promoting these >compilations when they should be reissuing some of the classic albums by >Baxter, Riddle, Shearing, etc. in their original form on CD AND on vinyl > >In any event, Capitol has butchered Space Escapade into little pieces of >kooky geegaws served up in banal packaging designed to market this music >for its kitsch value. > >CAPITOL RECORDS: >Reissue these albums as they originally were, SANS THE ERSATZ GRAPHICS, >DRINK RECIPES, ETC and Jill Mingo sez: Some compilations ARE cheap >marketing gimmicks. But I don't think the Ultra Lounge or Space Age Pop >series are necessarily in that vein. Nor are the IN FLIGHT ENTERTAINMENT and >SOUND GALLERYs. > >Any other comments out there? Just this... All these compilations are not inherently a bad thing (I also wish, in my perfect world, that all this stuff would be reissued as-were with the same album cover art on the CD sleeve, but Jill sounds pretty right on about the reasons this will not happen)... what really annoys and/or interests me is the aesthetic that is used in the marketing and packaging of most of these "cocktail culture" compilation series. Most of them are graphically designed in a way which very much insinuates the novelty of the music, and more than that a comical nostalgia for the time periods from which the original "scene(s)" comes. Bottom line, they are _horribly_ designed!! The attempt to campily reference 50s-60s cover art is apparent, but it is mangled up with a sloppy eighties-ish design take on it all. Bright primary / pastel flat backgrounds, big unwieldy title fonts, a token image of a glass or something floating in the middle... (I'm not speaking specifically of any of the series Jill mentions, just the ones I see around most of the time) It all just highlights the differences 'twixt now an' then, and emphasizes how great all that old cover art was. Sure, a lot of it was cheesy in certain ways, but charmingly so. There are a few CD comps out there with real good packaging, and I might be tempted to pick one up if there weren't so damn many of these retro CDs being churned out and shoved down our throats; i.e. I'd feel like a bit of a lemming consumer if I took the bait. However, while the vinyl scritchies are nice ambience sometimes it's also nice to have crisp CDs of these records which one can take to th' beach on the portable, etc. So hopefully more as-were reissues will happen. I salute the labels who take the plunge! + --- Thom S. Heileson + + - _oR_ + - phASER@wolfenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Lewis Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades Date: 14 Sep 1996 02:37:54 -0400 (EDT) > compilations are just right for me, and for others to put this down, to me, > is inappropriate. Inappropriate? It's called an opinion. > I agree with Kevin that some of you need to lighten up a bit and just thank > your lucky stars that this stuff is available in the first place. Huh? I have the vinyl, so it's no big deal. Hey, the labels AND the fans can benefit by putting this stuff out. Like it doesn't sell or something. Cut me a break. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: Beating the Ultra Lounge horse to death Date: 14 Sep 1996 11:16:47 GMT >While I believe that Irwin Chusid's compilations >> are truly exceptional, I cannot say the same about Ultra Lounge. > >Well, we disagree here. who's "we", kemosabe? jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades Date: 14 Sep 1996 11:16:42 GMT >Wow! Lighten up folks... Wasn't the initial (has it changed?) >intention of Capitol to release the comps and follow them with full >singles? I haven't heard "Cocktail Capers," which sounds awful, but >as a non-purist at heart, I am very appreciative of the comps. Let's >face it, much of this music IS most interesting when juxtaposed in >snippets as Will Straw pointed out. Why do you think so many of us >enjoy putting our own comp tapes together? Focusing on a theme or >sound - I'd say it has more to do with active listening than short >attention spans. Of course some Lps DO benefit from a full listen, >not denying that. But if both formats were immediately available, I >certainly would opt for the comps first as I am not only non-purist, >but non-wealthy. There's a ton of material sampled here. glad you brought this up... i percieve a big difference between "home-made" tape compilations and the official cd "best of's." when one sits down to produce an "underground" (yeah, because it's illegal..what a joke!) collection of other people's music, none of the artistically irrelevant ground rules of our legal system and the guidelines of record company marketing policies enter the picture. my hat is off to people like irwin who can play the game by the rules and still come up with quality stuff, but i bet there were times when he had to compromise and could have done better. i think that these amateur (by legal definition only, no slur on quality) productions of the heart are often of much higher interest. and as with my sentiment against penalising "bootlegers," i contend that they only magnify interest in the work of the "exploited" artists and yield only good things for their careers (that is, if proper credit is given.) i love george clinton's attitude of "sample me as much as you want, i love it" in contrast to james brown's paranoid pursuit of "copy cats." jack (god, i feel bad about Jack Diamond switching his signoff to Diamond. Jack, am I responsible? <: - o ) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: Beating the Ultra Lounge horse to death Date: 14 Sep 1996 06:12:16 -0600 (MDT) >As far as the non-wealthy comment, I would say why waste money on a >pathetic compliation if one can have the real thing. There are about twelve >Ultra Lounges out now and only ONE Baxter reissue (Baxter's Best, see >comment above...). I hoped that Capitol would have at least done Jewels of >the Sea or Ritual of the Savage by now, but as far as I can tell, Capitol >has no plans to do any more Baxter reissues.=20 Uh, Scott.... Have you not seen the double CD reissue of THE EXOTIC MOODS OF LES BAXTER=20 Capitol has put out? It serves as a wonderful introduction to the exotic=20 side of Les B. Tracks from Jewels and Ritual appear on it. And it is=20 beautifully packaged. My sources say Baxter was helping them put it together= =20 before he died. I have said this before, I wish they would reissue ALL his= =20 stuff, but I doubt there is a market for it. Budget-priced twofers would be= =20 excellent, but unless they REALLY think there is a market for it, it=20 probably won't happen. Incidentally, the double CD retails for an amazingly= =20 low =A312.99 here. I really applaud Capitol for this. Might finally give a= few=20 people the chance to get in touch with this man's exotic amazingness. And=20 believe you me, if you are outside the US, you will have one helluva hard=20 time finding his music at a reasonable price (reasonable being $20, which is= =20 kinda unreasonable, really). Even in the States, unless you are a fairly=20 active collector - checking out thrift stores and flea markets, he is a bit= =20 hard to find - unlike Denny. Personally I am grateful to have this=20 compilation out - even though I have the majority of it on vinyl.=20 I can't believe the moaning about these compilations. A few years ago, you= =20 wouldn't have found ANY of this. More and more reissues are happening all=20 the time. Surely any release that is promoting this sound serves as a tool= =20 to enlarge the market and the possibility of reissues. What's the problem?! Jill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades Date: 14 Sep 1996 11:29:15 -0400 I think you need to reread my original post. The second part of your reply makes no sense as to what I said. OH, and lighten up. Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Sando" Subject: Re: Beating the Ultra Lounge horse to death Date: 14 Sep 1996 08:41:28 +0000 > I have said this > before, I wish they would reissue ALL his stuff, but I doubt there > is a market for it. Budget-priced twofers would be excellent, but > unless they REALLY think there is a market for it, it probably won't > happen. What Capitol considers a "market" and what a tiny independant consider a "market" are two different things. If they don't want to release it, why not lower the restrictions on letting someone else license it? The last thing I heard was Capitol insisted on a 10,000 unit minimum and they had to manufacture the CDs. > I can't believe the moaning about these compilations. A few years > ago, you wouldn't have found ANY of this. More and more reissues are > happening all the time. Surely any release that is promoting this > sound serves as a tool to enlarge the market and the possibility of > reissues. What's the problem?! Things are probably better now overall, but in the days before CDs took over, most of the Yma Sumac catalogue was still in print, as was Ritual and the dreamy cocktail music of Jackie Gleason. I remember - I was there! Coconut Grove Media, publishers of MisterLUCKY PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 http://www.wco.com/~coconutg/ "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: Beating the Ultra Lounge horse to death Date: 14 Sep 1996 12:52:27 -0500 Jack Fetterman wrote: > >>While I believe that Irwin Chusid's compilations > >> are truly exceptional, I cannot say the same about Ultra Lounge. > >> > > > >Well, we disagree here. > > who's "we", kemosabe? Jack, we = myself and the poster of the above first message, Scott. I'm bowing out of this semi- flame war NOW! It's become an uncharacteristically mean spirited thread, or maybe it's just my short attention span. Are we not men? kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan Dada Vis) Subject: Dealing in EXOTICA records? Send your info to DADA'QUARIUMS Exotica Date: 14 Sep 1996 19:32:33 +0100 DADA'QUARIUMS Exotica now has a page with addresses of people dealing in exotica records, old or new, on a regular or irregular base. If you want your business on that page, just send an E-mail message to and I'll include you. It's free, but it's no banner page, so no advertising, only contact information and short description please. Greetings from Johan |)/\|)/\ dada@ping.be home: Wivina 15, 1702, Belgium **************************************************************************** DADA'QUARIUMS Exotica: Exotica releases overview Exotica reviews & track lists Zound Zamples Records for sale: exotica & novelty "http://www.ping.be/~ping1241/" **************************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan Dada Vis) Subject: Dada'quariums Exotica Upd@te: Living Stereo special Date: 14 Sep 1996 19:32:44 +0100 RCA Living Stereo special The (stereo) action switched to Germany, where RCA is rereleasing a steady flow of Living Stereo albums on CD. Not all of them are Space Age Pop or Exotica classics, but the reviews and sleeve notes in the Dada'quariums Exotica pages will help you to identify the real beauties. All these rereleases have the original front & back cover art work (including the "Miracle Surface" label :-), and all except one contain bonus tracks, which are mentioned in the track lists in these very pages. RCA Living Stereo special, featuring: Xavier Cugat, Esquivel, Henry Mancini, Perez Prado, Tito Puente, Dick Schory, The Three Suns, Caterina Valente, Winterhalter and Bob & Ray. Greetings from Johan |)/\|)/\ dada@ping.be home: Wivina 15, 1702, Belgium **************************************************************************** DADA'QUARIUMS Exotica: Exotica releases overview Exotica reviews & track lists Zound Zamples Records for sale: exotica & novelty "http://www.ping.be/~ping1241/" **************************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: lost in wonder Date: 14 Sep 1996 12:02:48 -0600 (MDT) >> Saw the LOST EPISODE__ CD__ last night, and wondered if that was the >> "remastered" version that is so oft refered to on this list... > > The remastered version has a sticker on it that says it is remastered - > what you saw was probably old stock. Is the sticker inside or outside the shrinkwrap? (If it's outside, I'd be curious to know how we can tell which version is which by just looking at the un-shrinkwrapped disc.) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Newsgroup for this mailing list? Date: 14 Sep 1996 12:04:22 -0600 (MDT) > Is there a Usenet newsgroup associated with this mailing list? > So many messages, so little time and disk space. Not really, no. (I can assure you that if this list were a newsgroup you'd have about six times as much trouble keeping up, and it wouldn't be anywhere near as worth the effort!) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: Bleeker Bob's in L.A. Date: 14 Sep 1996 12:14:10 -0600 (MDT) >> Oh, yeah. I hit Bleeker Bob's on Melrose every time I'm in L.A. just >> for the laugh value. I can't believe that there are enough people >> stupid enough to pay their prices to keep that place in business with >> Melrose rents. > > in the end, if you want that mint copy of "music out of the moon/peace > of mind," and $100 is an hour's pay for consulting, "stupid," doesn't > quite fit, as you walk out the door with a "mission accomplished" > attitude. Are there two Bleeker Bobs, then? Because from my experience in the LA store, that $100 "Music Out Of The Moon" you offer as an example is extremely unlikely to be "mint". My dismay at their prices (and the lack of smarts on the part of the people who pay them) comes from the fact that those prices are WAY out of line given the actual scarcity and condition of what they stock. The Melrose shop charges $20 for beat-up domestic pressings of common mid-80s US 12" singles that you can get at Aron's (or even Vinyl Fetish) for $2-$4 -- and the prices go up exponentially from there. Last time I was in they had an "Other Worlds, Other Sounds" on the wall for $100 that was falling out of its sleeve. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades Date: 14 Sep 1996 12:24:45 -0600 (MDT) > If bootleggers can sell those Tamboo! discs, why not legit releases for > less money? There is definitely a market. Sure, there's a market -- the question is whether that market is big enough for Capitol to try to exploit it. If they honestly believe that it is, they will. (I'm not convinced that any US label *could* make money on a full reissue program for Les Baxter or Esquivel, but I'd certainly do my best to help them to.) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: " / dave / " Subject: Re: Brigitte Bardot Date: 14 Sep 1996 14:25:45 -0500 (CDT) bryan c. writes: > Anyone know the recording/release dates of the following: > > ********************** > Harley Davidson > Marseillaise generique (inst) > Mister Sun > Ay que viva la sangria > David B. (inst) > Gang Gang > Saint Tropez (inst) > Port Grimaud (inst) > Oh qu'il est vilain > Paris (inst) > Je reviendrai toujours vers toi > On demenage > Le diable est anglais > Ce n'est pas vrai > Contact > ********************** Here you go... All of the instrumentals noted above are from the soundtrack LP 'The Brigitte Bardot Show', released in Feb 68. The recording dates are unknown. Harley Davidson and Contact were recorded in Nov 67 and released as a single in Dec of that year. Ay que viva la sangria, Le diable est anglais, Ce n'est pas vrai, and Oh! qu'il est vilain were released together on the 'Brigitte Bardot' EP in Oct 68, although they were recorded in Feb of that year and included on the earlier 'Brigitte Bardot Show' LP mentioned above. Mister Sun made its first appearance on the TV soundtrack as well. Le soleil, the French version of the song, had been released on an EP in July 66 along with Gang Gang, On demenage, and Je reviendrai toujours vers toi. The recording date is listed as Apr 66 for the four on the EP, but Mister Sun's recording date is unknown. A number of her other hits were released in the context of soundtracks for her movies. She released a handful of regular LPs and quite a few 45s and EPs as well. As one would expect, the covers evoke the quintessential 60s euro-pop aesthetic - sassy, colorful, cinematic, and wondrous to behold. Now where did I park my scooter? dave /\\ \\ \\ \\ / \\ \\ \\ \\ the arouet label / \\ \\ \\ \\ ZING! ZING! -----------// // // //------> arouet@winternet.com \ // // // // \// // // // fnast! image # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: lost in wonder Date: 14 Sep 1996 17:06:30 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-14 14:14:23 EDT, you write: >>> Saw the LOST EPISODE__ CD__ last night, and wondered if that was the >>> "remastered" version that is so oft refered to on this list... >> >> The remastered version has a sticker on it that says it is remastered - >> what you saw was probably old stock. > >Is the sticker inside or outside the shrinkwrap? (If it's outside, I'd be >curious to know how we can tell which version is which by just looking at >the un-shrinkwrapped disc.) > >-- The copies I've seen recently have (as far as I can see) no alterations to the original artwork...the sticker was place on the shrink-wrap...perhaps Lee can fill us in if there is a way to note the remastered version or if all of the remastered versions have the sticker. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: Bleeker Bob's in L.A. Date: 14 Sep 1996 17:11:24 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-14 14:22:14 EDT, you write: >Are there two Bleeker Bobs, then? Because from my experience in the LA >store, that $100 "Music Out Of The Moon" you offer as an example is extremely >unlikely to be "mint". > >My dismay at their prices (and the lack of smarts on the part of the >people who pay them) comes from the fact that those prices are WAY out of >line given the actual scarcity and condition of what they stock. The >Melrose shop charges $20 for beat-up domestic pressings of common mid-80s >US 12" singles that you can get at Aron's (or even Vinyl Fetish) for $2-$4 >-- and the prices go up exponentially from there. Last time I was in they >had an "Other Worlds, Other Sounds" on the wall for $100 that was falling >out of its sleeve. > > Bleeker Bob's started out in NYC and then Bob moved out to Melrose in the late '80s. I can vouch for every story of his customer antogonism that has been posted - it's amazing with treatment like his that he has stayed in business...Bob has been famous for overpricing records for two reasons 1.) just so he can keep something interesting on his wall for a fairly extended peroid of time and 2.) to see if there's somebody who doesn't know bettert is willing to be fleeced...what was the WC Fields phrase? "There's a sucker born every minute." Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stefan.kery@subliminal.se (STEFAN KERY) Subject: Re: Wickerman Date: 15 Sep 1996 00:41:14 +0200 (MET DST) Never saw a soundtrack but the music is good haunting UK folk. One exceptional song is the one done by Britt Ekland (in the nude). Stefan/Subliminal Sounds > Anyone ever see a soundtrack for "The Wickerman" and if so > is it any good? > > > > Thanks - Anita > > anita_serwacki@newline.com > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades Date: 14 Sep 1996 22:41:19 GMT >OH, and lighten up. heh, sorry, not my style. jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stefan.kery@subliminal.se (STEFAN KERY) Subject: Re: Bleeker Bob's in L.A. Date: 15 Sep 1996 00:56:13 +0200 (MET DST) Don=B4t know much about Bleeker Bob=B4s in L.A. but while visiting N.Y. ten= =20 years ago I scored some authenticly (yeah I don=B4t happen to have a= dictonary=20 around at the moment) rare, private press 60=B4s 45=B4s for a bargain.= Anyways=20 don=B4t get me wrong, I=B4m not defending their prices but can some one= offer me=20 "Music Out of the Moon" 10" in mint nick for less than $100 I=B4ll be very= happy.=20 Stefan/Subliminal Sounds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades Date: 14 Sep 1996 23:30:14 GMT OH, and lighten up. >Gloria actually, what i should have said is that my last paragraph was supposed to be funny. i was trying to make "light" of the situation. guess you missed the point...... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: Re: Xmas exotica (was RE: Ultra-Lounge) Date: 14 Sep 1996 20:35:10 -0400 The Blue Hawaiians also have a live disc out (their first) I think its called Live at the Lava Lounge # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: springer@nyc.pipeline.com (D. Scott Springer) Subject: Beating the Space Capades horse to death Date: 15 Sep 1996 00:36:53 GMT >----- Forwarded message (Stilgloria@aol.com) -----< I agree with Kevin that some of you need to lighten up a bit and just thank your lucky stars that this stuff is available in the first place. I don't think there are a lot of people who are as hyped about this music as we are. I often ask people what they think of the bachelor pad/space age/exotica/lounge music and ten times out of ten I get "What's that?" First of all, I would appreciate it very much if members of this list would refrain from telling others to "LIGHTEN UP." If nobody agrees with my views about comps versus reissues, that is quite fine. But please do not tell me to lighten up. If everyone continues to be complacent about this, we can expect Ultra Lounge volume 37 (Bongos in a Bordello) to be out by the end of the year, by which point the whole "trend" will be over and NOTHING else will be reissued. Think about it. Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Kilmartin Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades (Brace yourselves, this is long...) Date: 14 Sep 1996 20:43:54 -0400 >the fact that this stuff is still relatively obscure (at least in NYC) is >no reason to be defensive. i'm not going to "thank my lucky stars" about >the state of things. this music has so much more depth (and i am not happy >about this. i am a proponent for contemporary music) than what anyone >tuning into the mainstream (or indie) media broadcasts has access to, I'm not sure I understand exactly what the issue is here. The fact that CDs have pretty well eliminated vinyl is something we'll all have to come to terms with, sooner later, what have you. The reality of the matter is that we have SOME exotica/lounge available and the fact that this is so much more satisfying than having NO exotica/lounge at all defeats the arguement. It's unfortunate but it's true. Up until a year ago you couldn't walk into anything other than a second hand record store where, if you were REALLY lucky you might come across some Esquivel or Lenny Dee or, yes, Les Baxter album that someone HADNT just thrown out wih the other stuff they'd gotten tired of. No Rhino compilations, no RCA Space Age Bachelor series, no Ultra-Lounge (whether or not you agree with its format) nothing apart from maybe some Perez Prado mambo CDs or the like. Whether or not this music is immediately re-embraced by popular standards isn't the issue. There are SO many forms of music at war on the airwaves and the marketplace that the existance of new reissues of exotica/lounge are being made despite the fact that they have little or no potential of making the kind of profits a record distributor consider noteworthy says a great deal about the degree of faith music industry types already have for this stuff. The fact that there are 12 UltraLounge compilation CDs of music "nobody" wanted to hear again is a major breakthrough when you remember what it takes these days to get something out in the first place. The thing is we have to get more people to go out and get the stuff that's been made available, not just those of us who already aware of how amazingly satisfying this music can be. >tell your friends (or whoever they are), as i do, that they are missing out >on some tremendous listening....not in an antagonistic way...in a >provacative way. i am constanly amazed at how friends of mine react to our >bar d'o gig. "oh, i thought this was going to be weird and offensive, god, >i think most people, once exposed to it, naturally "like it." there is a >spirit of value for invention and craft that was sustained longer than is >feasible for contemporary musical artists in this era of over-production >and over-developed marketing strategies that is picked up intuitively. it >is striking in comparison. it sounds like music versus a commercial. Exactly. The people putting this music together originally come from a background SO much richer than someone who's figured out how to cue up a drum machine and who then plays it for awhile and adds chord progressions then calls that a song (which there seems to be an awful lot of on AM radio these days...). Still, if you only "preach to the choir" all you get is a choir that's tired of hearing the sermon. The stuff that is available now on CD serves more than one purpose by making the quality music of the past available (generally) inexpensively while still introducing novice hipniks to the glory of that music through the marketing techniques that work for "POP" music these days. Don't just tell your friends. Tell everyone you can. >i am not denying the obvious primitive marketing attitudes that haunted >this stuff. in fact these in-your-face naive first stabs at exploitation >only enhance the genre. Now, it's so sophisticated, that the masses don't >have a clue that their pants are being pulled down and their butts are >being kicked off the edge of the grand canyon with sony tv in hands as >spielberg proclaims that you have "penis breath." > Here's where you lost me . Obscure E.T. reference and all... :) Sorry this took so much of your time but I'm getting tired of all the "the New re-issues bite" posts I've been seeing lately. So I guess this places me, for now anyway, deeply in the "thank your lucky stars" camp. I smell smoke.. I hope its not flames... Joe in TO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: springer@nyc.pipeline.com (D. Scott Springer) Subject: Beating the Ultra Lounge horse to death Date: 15 Sep 1996 01:06:31 GMT >----- Forwarded message (mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo)) -----< Even in the States, unless you are a fairly active collector - checking out thrift stores and flea markets, he is a bit hard to find - unlike Denny. Personally I am grateful to have this compilation out - even though I have the majority of it on vinyl I can't believe the moaning about these compilations. A few years ago, you wouldn't have found ANY of this. More and more reissues are happening all the time. Surely any release that is promoting this sound serves as a tool to enlarge the market and the possibility of reissues. What's the problem?! Jill- I certainly know the Exotica Moods of Les Baxter, but I refuse to buy it. Perhaps this is stupid, but I have most of these tracks on vinyl and I would rather listen to the originals, even if a couple of these are in less than stellar condition. You have piqued my interest, though, with your comment about Les' having worked on this project. Is this really true? If so, did Baxter do the liner notes? Although I agree with you that the market is small, I am a bit skeptical about the possibility of enlarging it substantially. I applaud Scamp for reissuing Que Mango! and GNP Crescendo for issuing Colors of Brazil/African Blue. If small companies like these can do these, why is it that Capitol cannot? Why is it that the only Nelson Riddle CD I have been able to find (not counting the Clooney, Sinatra, etc ones) is Symphony for the North (on Total Recording of Canada, a virtually unknown label) when Capitol has vaults of this stuff? Best regards, Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades (Brace yourselves, this is long...) Date: 14 Sep 1996 21:35:01 -0400 Hi, Joe. Yes, I agree. I really wasn't being defensive by saying "thank your lucky stars", it was more of a cynical statement on my part because the record (read CD) companies are into mass producing and putting out the "drum machines" music rather than taking a chance and putting out really good music that a lot of us baby boomers didn't pay much attention to in the 50s and early 60s. I was paying more attention to Elvis Presley, Buddy Holly, The Beach Boys then of course The Beatles and Stones to even listen to the softer stuff. I don't think I would have liked it even if my parents had listened to it at that young age. Although, I must admit, when my parents watched Harry Owens every Saturday night, I was right there with them. I only have a couple of Harry Owens titles right now, as he's VERY difficult to find at garage sales. Anyway, long live the compilations!!!! Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re: Beating the Space Capades horse to death Date: 14 Sep 1996 21:36:18 -0400 <<<>>> Well, you've given us NOTHING to think about. Get over yourself. Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades Date: 14 Sep 1996 21:37:07 -0400 <<<>>> yup # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades Date: 14 Sep 1996 21:38:22 -0400 <<>> LOL, good one. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Earle Hagen, Earle Hagen! Date: 14 Sep 1996 21:50:17 -0500 I just scored a copy of I Spy. The balance pales by comparison to the amazing title cut (which left one of the biggest imprints in MY brain as far as spy music goes). Although Ah So! is wonderfully strange with its unusual use of traditional Japanese instruments. I learned from Brad's Standards site that Earle Hagen also composed the music for Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman!!! Anyone know if this was ever released on vinyl or cd? Blissing out in a poptronic groove to Pierre Henry, Pram's Meshes and Broadcast (who are divine!), kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TothMD@aol.com Subject: New approach to marketing reissues (Labels TRY THIS!) Date: 14 Sep 1996 22:46:36 -0400 Okay, if, in many cases a CD must sell 10,000 copies for a label to feel it's worth reissuing but the market may only sustain half of that, HOW ABOUT THIS: Hike up (double?) the *label's* pre-distributor base price on the disc, so the retail is, say $20-22 per CD. That way you generate a similar amount of revenue with half as many copies. But you'd better include at least 2 LPs worth of material and/or some really rare bonus tracks and snazzy repackaging. Before you deem this totally wacky, consider the following: -That 5,000-people market is probably the same market that would be willing to pay $20-30+ for an import or a substandard bootleg of this stuff. -Around here I can get those Yma Sumac reissue CDs for $10 each, and I know actual list price is higher -- those albums are pretty short and could have been paired up 2 per CD. A single, $20 disc aimed at the collectors market has half the manufacturing costs, and takes up half as much space on the collectors' bursting shelves. At worst, it costs as much as two single CDs at the discounted price I can find them at, at best, it's *cheaper* than two list price single CDs. (That double-LP *cheaper* aspect is a major reason why One Way's Ventures and Scamp's Denny two-fers are so attractive) -Like the home video market for more obscure titles, if it sells especially well, it can be rereleased later to a broader market that wouldn't have paid the new release higher prices. But the collector has no guarantee of that, and paranoid of its limited print-run nature, is going to snatch it up as fast as they can. Aside from those gold "audiophile CD" releases of stuff like Boston and Pink Floyd, has the domestic (U.S.) recording industry really attempted *higher-priced*, smaller-run CD releases especially for the *collector* market? Am I wrong? Would not virtually EVERYONE on this list be inclined to promptly slap down $20 for a properly-done "Infinity In Sound Vols. 1&2" or "Fever & Smoke/Movin' & Groovin'" CD? Admittedly though, unlike those examples, some stuff may not have a market for even 5,000... Michael "Marketing" Toth TothMD@aol.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Jack this Jack that;-)> Date: 14 Sep 1996 21:24:14 +0000 >jack (god, i feel bad about Jack Diamond switching his signoff to Diamond. >Jack, am I responsible? <: - o ) Jack, No. I just do that sometimes ;) Sometimes I feel like Diamond and sometimes I feel like Jack ;-)> Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: The market Date: 14 Sep 1996 21:31:16 +0000 When the 1st Esquivel compilation CD was released by Bar None, RCA/BMG had said they ONLY wanted 5,000 units sold. That's where their break even point was at;) That CD in its 1st year sold very close to 40,000. We can all pretty much know that the 2nd Esquivel comp sold well over that 40,000 mark can't we since everyone and his brother (or sister) discovered the maestro in that 2nd year. This movement if you will is IMHO alot bigger than I suspect alot of you think it is. I've heard people, jocks on commercial radio that trashed Martin Denny and Esquivel 3 years ago say on the air that they love them now and have all their stuff that is available and want more!!! This is in the San Francisco bay area. Jack Diamond # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: poulus@xs4all.nl (Poulus Bliek) Subject: Easy Tune Date: 15 Sep 1996 08:35:15 +0200 (MET DST) Yes, I did it ! (Liesbeth did it for me.) The Easy Tune Homepage is now available in English. Easy Tune is the collective noun for new and progressive easy listening, amongst others popcorn and exotica. In Holland frequently heard at party's. So come and check this out Easy Tune Homepage is located at: http://www.zeelandnet.nl/people/poulus/easytune.htm CU soon. Poulus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: Re: Tiki Tones live Date: 15 Sep 1996 04:52:06 -0400 The Tikitones are what the world needs now Also for vintage surf The Huntington Cads who share Josh Agle (Tiki artist about town - he did the poster artwork for Exoticon, had a showing of Tiki art in Santa Monica and will be part of the big La Luz Gallery "21th Century Tiki" art show opening October 4, did covers for Bomboras, Karla Pundit, and of course his own bands all done with wit style and charm) The Cads have the damnedest catchiest tunes - I've been hummin 'em for weeks Also Tiki tones will play at aforementioned art opening for free!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: Beating the Space Capades horse to death Date: 15 Sep 1996 05:54:54 -0600 (MDT) >First of all, I would appreciate it very much if members of this list would >refrain from telling others to "LIGHTEN UP." If nobody agrees with my views >about comps versus reissues, that is quite fine. But please do not tell me >to lighten up. If everyone continues to be complacent about this, we can >expect Ultra Lounge volume 37 (Bongos in a Bordello) to be out by the end >of the year, by which point the whole "trend" will be over and NOTHING else >will be reissued. Think about it. Scott, Again, lighten up.Yes, you are right. Chances are, this trend in time will die, and reissues in their abundance will fade. That's why you should enjoy what you can NOW before it disappears. Classy reissues by the likes of Scamp will always come out sporadically because they are true believers who know what they are doing. But the majors with their compilations are trying to seize and hopefully CREATE a market to make money. Bottom line. But if the crap (as some think) compilations continue to come out, it could increase interest and therefore, speed up the quality reissues who can cash in on the trend by reissuing the quality stuff that normally isn't profitable or even break-evenable to put out. Think about it. Jill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades (Brace yourselves, this is long...) Date: 15 Sep 1996 06:02:36 -0600 (MDT) >Exactly. The people putting this music together originally come from a >background SO much richer than someone who's figured out how to cue up a >drum machine and who then plays it for awhile and adds chord progressions >then calls that a song (which there seems to be an awful lot of on AM radio >these days...). Still, if you only "preach to the choir" all you get is a >choir that's tired of hearing the sermon. The stuff that is available now >on CD serves more than one purpose by making the quality music of the past >available (generally) inexpensively while still introducing novice hipniks >to the glory of that music through the marketing techniques that work for >"POP" music these days. Don't just tell your friends. Tell everyone you can. Watch what you say about drum machine music. There is a lot of skill and depth that can go into this too. Esquivel is planning on using the latest technology for his new music. Many of these exotic gods were total innovators of sound that would embrace today's technology. There is great and godawful music in EVERY genre including "lounge". Just like there are good and bad compilations, etc.. OK? Jill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: Beating the Ultra Lounge horse to death Date: 15 Sep 1996 06:08:19 -0600 (MDT) >Jill- > >I certainly know the Exotica Moods of Les Baxter, but I refuse to buy it. >Perhaps this is stupid, but I have most of these tracks on vinyl and I >would rather listen to the originals, even if a couple of these are in less >than stellar condition. You have piqued my interest, though, with your >comment about Les' having worked on this project. Is this really true? If >so, did Baxter do the liner notes? Baxter's daughter made her comments in the liner notes that are very personal and very touching. I was speaking to Rev-Ola in the UK about doing a Baxter comp. for them, but he was told by Capitol that they were reissuing BAXTER's BEST and were working with Baxter on a compilation of his exotica stuff since BEST doesn't really fit the bill. It was to be a "boxed" set, and of course, this is THE EXOTIC MOODS OF LES BAXTER. All the info he told me checked out with what actually happened in the end. (This was about a year ago now) and with Baxter's daughter doing sleeve notes, I can only assume that this was in fact compiled with Baxter's blessing. And it has a fine selection of some of his best stuff so I support it and bought it and enjoy it. > >Although I agree with you that the market is small, I am a bit skeptical >about the possibility of enlarging it substantially. I applaud Scamp for >reissuing Que Mango! and GNP Crescendo for issuing Colors of Brazil/African >Blue. If small companies like these can do these, why is it that Capitol >cannot? Why is it that the only Nelson Riddle CD I have been able to find >(not counting the Clooney, Sinatra, etc ones) is Symphony for the North (on >Total Recording of Canada, a virtually unknown label) when Capitol has >vaults of this stuff? I agree that it will never have a massive market like chart success. I'm sure Scamp are successful because they REALLY know what they are doing, not because they are rolling in dough. I'm sure Capitol don't release this simply because they aren't interested in "breaking even". They want MONEY. That is their aim. They don't put out music because they "care". They put it out for profit. Some of us will just remain frustrated. Jill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: Beating the Ultra Lounge horse to death Date: 15 Sep 1996 08:47:45 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-14 21:14:26 EDT, you write: >I certainly know the Exotica Moods of Les Baxter, but I refuse to buy it. >Perhaps this is stupid, but I have most of these tracks on vinyl and I >would rather listen to the originals, even if a couple of these are in less >than stellar condition. You have piqued my interest, though, with your >comment about Les' having worked on this project. Is this really true? If >so, did Baxter do the liner notes? I can't confirm that this is true concerning Baxter's involvement on this comp...I do know from Lee and Skip that it was a rush to put "Lost Episode" out so Les would see a Cd of stuff from this period while he was still alive. I know a similar comp is being prepared on Denny and he's a little miffed they didn't ask for his input on the track listing.... By the way the liner notes are written by R J Smith, the same guy who did the notes from the entire Ultra Lounge series with a big thanks (as others can confirm on this list) to Skip Heller. Regards Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: New approach to marketing reissues (Labels TRY THIS!) Date: 15 Sep 1996 08:54:03 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-14 22:56:26 EDT, you write: >Okay, if, in many cases a CD must sell 10,000 copies for a label to feel it's >worth reissuing but the market may only sustain half of that, HOW ABOUT THIS: > >Hike up (double?) the *label's* pre-distributor base price on the disc, so >the retail is, say $20-22 per CD. That way you generate a similar amount of >revenue with half as many copies. But you'd better include at least 2 LPs >worth of material and/or some really rare bonus tracks and snazzy >repackaging. It's an interesting idea, unfortunately it doesn't work that way - when the majors require a gurrantee of 10,000 units they mean payment of royalties on 10,000 units. If you charge a list price of $20 to $22 then the majors(who would love that!) will still demand that royaties be paid on that list price for 10,000 units - so if 10,000 aren't sold the label who has licesenced the stuff is really in the hole. Regards Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: amycamus@interport.net Subject: Send a drink to my table... Date: 15 Sep 1996 09:15:30 -0400 (EDT) > >>OH, and lighten up. > >heh, sorry, not my style. > >jack > And more from Scott and Jack.... actually, what i should have said is that my last paragraph was supposed to be funny. i was trying to make "light" of the situation. guess you missed the point...... First of all, I would appreciate it very much if members of this list would refrain from telling others to "LIGHTEN UP." If nobody agrees with my views about comps versus reissues, that is quite fine. But please do not tell me to lighten up. If everyone continues to be complacent about this, we can expect Ultra Lounge volume 37 (Bongos in a Bordello) to be out by the end of the year, by which point the whole "trend" will be over and NOTHING else will be reissued. Think about it. I have been reading this 'discussion' and I have one question...Why are you people listening to this music? I listen because I like it, it is fun...and it is pretty light. I don't hang at Bar d'O on Thursdays for deep talk...Its drinks, friends, and FUN. Are you people working on a PhD on this stuff? Maybe I am lucky that the music I like is often reisuued or easier to find than some of the more obscure stuff, but there is so much out there to explore on used vinyl and CD import and domestic, that I find I never run out of music. So Jack and Scott, please play some lighthearted music on Thursday and send me a Tequila Sunrise. And tell that Bar to get some drink umbrellas....... Cherie amycamus@interport.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lucien@interport.net (Lucien Samaha) Subject: exotica in Japan?? Date: 15 Sep 1996 09:28:06 -0500 Does anyone have any information if there is anything happening in Tokyo?? I am most interested in exploring DJing there on a trip that I will be making this fall... Thanx. lucien # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: New approach to marketing reissues (Labels TRY THIS!) Date: 15 Sep 1996 07:45:44 -0600 (MDT) > >Okay, if, in many cases a CD must sell 10,000 copies for a label to feel it's >worth reissuing but the market may only sustain half of that, HOW ABOUT THIS: > >Hike up (double?) the *label's* pre-distributor base price on the disc, so >the retail is, say $20-22 per CD. That way you generate a similar amount of >revenue with half as many copies. But you'd better include at least 2 LPs >worth of material and/or some really rare bonus tracks and snazzy >repackaging. Before you deem this totally wacky, consider the following: Well, that is kinda what those bootleggers did. They obviously knew the music like us and did limited editions of twofers at a high price for you and I. But then people gave them loads of crap for being "illegal" as if the artists get money from second hand collectors inflated prices. The problem is the majors won't LET this stuff go cheaply. Because it doesn't make financial sense, they don't care about you and I. So good plan, but not likely to happen. The money a small label would have to invest for 5000 highly priced CDs (and yes, it will cost them LOTS of dosh) is probably too big of a risk for them to take. As you pointed out, there may not even be a market for 5000 for some of this stuff.... Jill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: viktrola@usa.nai.net Subject: Re:The Never Ending Spacecapades Thread Date: 15 Sep 1996 09:51:16 -0500 >Sorry this took so much of your time but I'm getting tired of all the "the >New re-issues bite" posts I've been seeing lately. > >So I guess this places me, for now anyway, deeply in the "thank your lucky >stars" camp. > >I smell smoke.. I hope its not flames... > >Joe in TO > _______________________________________________________________________________ here i was all set to jump in and add my two cents (now worth $300 at bleeker bob's) when joe come along and states it so eloquently. exactly my point...we SHOULD simply thank the tiki gods ANY of this has been re-issued in any form. bless you joe for a fine response...stop by vik's for drinks on the house...i have plenty of fire extinguishers... in swank, Vik Vik Trola's Lounge Of Self Indulgence http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/lounge.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: viktrola@usa.nai.net Subject: Re: Beating the Ultra Lounge horse to death Date: 15 Sep 1996 09:51:18 -0500 >Although I agree with you that the market is small, I am a bit skeptical >about the possibility of enlarging it substantially. I applaud Scamp for >reissuing Que Mango! and GNP Crescendo for issuing Colors of Brazil/African >Blue. If small companies like these can do these, why is it that Capitol >cannot? Why is it that the only Nelson Riddle CD I have been able to find >(not counting the Clooney, Sinatra, etc ones) is Symphony for the North (on >Total Recording of Canada, a virtually unknown label) when Capitol has >vaults of this stuff? > >Best regards, >Scott > _______________________________________________________________________________ welcome to the "record industry" scott. that surreal world where Garth Brooks sells billions and no one cares about Joey Altruda. where David Lee Roth gets a standing ovation at the MTV Music awards but little or no press is given to Mel Torme's failing health. why can't the majors put out re-issues like Scamp, Ryko, Dionysus, GNP, etc.? Profits...plain and simple. the operating expenses for a major label are outrageous and for a project to get released several executives making the equivalent of four Esquivel mint LPs at bleeker bob's have to decide whether it will sell enough copies to return the investment. compilations are proven sales...individual albums are not. the single best selling re-issue in this crazy re-issue mania? the esquivel's on bar none...and they were compilations!!! ***as a side bar, Jack Diamond wrote*** >When the 1st Esquivel compilation CD was released by Bar None, RCA/BMG had >said they ONLY wanted 5,000 units sold. >That's where their break even point was at;) >That CD in its 1st year sold very close to 40,000. >We can all pretty much know that the 2nd Esquivel comp sold well over that >40,000 mark can't we since everyone and his brother (or sister) discovered >the maestro in that 2nd year. yes, but nothing since these have done anywhere near as well. bar none got EXCEEDINGLY lucky with these releases and started the majors thinking there was a giant market untapped. now more than two years later it has proven to be a relatively small market. soundscan numbers average 3000-5000 and that simply does not hold the interest of major label catalog departments... the indie labels have a lower overheard but less money to work with. it simply is not a matter of opening the vaults to these labels either. even the indies have to pick and choose their releases to maximize profit. why? release enough low (or no) selling titles, and you're out of business. or worse, even some indie labels have executives (usually making the equivalent of two les baxters at bleeker bobs) whose job it is to decide whether the label will even exist next year. i personally know a couple of labels in the indie market which could be in danger of NOT releasing ANYTHING in '97 because executives don't get this music (translation:not enough sales). so enough of Record Business 101. i just found $1500 in the pocket of my coat...think i'll go buy martin denny's "exotic moog" at bob's... in swank, Vik Vik Trola's Lounge Of Self Indulgence http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/lounge.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: springer@nyc.pipeline.com (D. Scott Springer) Subject: (Fwd) The market Date: 15 Sep 1996 14:16:33 GMT >----- Forwarded message (dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond)) -----< This movement if you will is IMHO alot bigger than I suspect alot of you think it is. I've heard people, jocks on commercial radio that trashed Martin Denny and Esquivel 3 years ago say on the air that they love them now and have all their stuff that is available and want more!!! This is in the San Francisco bay area. Jack- I did not realize that sales were so good on the Bar None Esquivel CDs. That is definitely great news. THOSE comps are great. I think that New Yorkers are about a year behind Californians in terms of our their appreciation for this music. When I was living in LA I remember being able to regularly hear Denny at certain bars as far back as 1989. At that time, however, one could still find Baxter and Equivel for 99 cents (and not at thrift stores, either). In NYC, there are relatively few places where one can hear this music, but in contrast to LA (at least a few years ago) the record stores here are asking exorbitant prices nevertheless... Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: springer@nyc.pipeline.com (D. Scott Springer) Subject: Baxter Date: 15 Sep 1996 14:23:31 GMT >----- Forwarded message (mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo)) -----< Baxter's daughter made her comments in the liner notes that are very personal and very touching. I was speaking to Rev-Ola in the UK about doing a Baxter comp. for them, but he was told by Capitol that they were reissuing BAXTER's BEST and were working with Baxter on a compilation of his exotica stuff since BEST doesn't really fit the bill. It was to be a "boxed" set, and of course, this is THE EXOTIC MOODS OF LES BAXTER. All the info he told me checked out with what actually happened in the end. (This was about a year ago now) and with Baxter's daughter doing sleeve notes, I can only assume that this was in fact compiled with Baxter's blessing. And it has a fine selection of some of his best stuff so I support it and bought it and enjoy it. > Jill- The fact that Baxter's daughter wrote the liner notes is reason enough to buy THE EXOTIC MOODS OF LES BAXTER. I always enjoy learning more about him, and the interviews I have read/heard with him have been extraordinary. David Garland's interview with him, which was rebroadcast shortly after his death, was truly enlightening. I hope that it someday becomes part of a much more extensive Baxter biographical project. Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: springer@nyc.pipeline.com (D. Scott Springer) Subject: Baxter on GNP Crescendo Date: 15 Sep 1996 14:38:00 GMT >----- Forwarded message (LTepedino@aol.com) -----< I can't confirm that this is true concerning Baxter's involvement on this comp...I do know from Lee and Skip that it was a rush to put "Lost Episode" out so Les would see a Cd of stuff from this period while he was still alive. I know a similar comp is being prepared on Denny and he's a little miffed they didn't ask for his input on the track listing.... By the way the liner notes are written by R J Smith, the same guy who did the notes from the entire Ultra Lounge series with a big thanks (as others can confirm on this list) to Skip Heller. Ashley- Do you (or does anyone else) know what exactly Baxter's arrangement was with GNP Crescendo? In addition to the Colors of Brazil/African Blue CD, Baxter also did a series (with Neil Norman, who is, I believe, the son of Gene Norman) called "Science Fiction's Greatest Hits." The group is actually called "Neil Norman and his Cosmic Orchestra" and features Neil on Theremin and Les on keyboards. In addition to the renditions of John Williams' worst, each of the discs features at least two Baxter originals (which are a little bizarre, but are nevertheless tinged with those subtle Baxter-Ravel-Poulenc nuances (except they are rendered without strings). I wonder if GNP has any more Baxter stuff around. Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Kilmartin Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades (Brace yourselves, this is long...) Date: 15 Sep 1996 12:06:23 -0400 At 06:02 AM 15/09/1996 -0600, you wrote: > > >Watch what you say about drum machine music. There is a lot of skill and >depth that can go into this too. Esquivel is planning on using the latest >technology for his new music. Many of these exotic gods were total >innovators of sound that would embrace today's technology. There is great >and godawful music in EVERY genre including "lounge". Just like there are >good and bad compilations, etc.. I think the operative word here may be "can". Honestly, IMHO, the vast majority of that stuff just leaves me kind of breathless rather than providing me with any kind of lasting satisfaction. Can you imagine what dean Elliot would have pulled off with a sampler, TODAY..? There IS good new 120 or more BPM stuff but what I've been hearing * lately* is hardly the stuff I remember days later and hum to myself in my head at the photocopier. I never have any problem hummin' Mancini or Baxter or Montenegro or Quincy Jones or Denny or...You see? Not that all music is meant to be memorable, but... Maybe the best thing do here is to paraphrase what Roger Ebert has said about film (and I can't beleive I'm quoting HIM *here*): The only Bad Music is Boring Music. And, of course, there's never any accounting for taste. I have nothing against any particular genre of music at all. I've just not found much exitement in today's dance music, lately, and especially when its being shoved down my audial throat because maket saturation is the best way to sell stuff to people with nothing but disposable income Now if you have any suggestions that I *should* be listening to, I'd love to check them out. >OK? OK !! Joe in TO. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Kilmartin Subject: Re: Tiki Tones live Date: 15 Sep 1996 12:11:34 -0400 At 04:52 AM 15/09/1996 -0400, you wrote: >The Tikitones are what the world needs now Good! Where do I get them? >Also for vintage surf >The Huntington Cads who share Josh Agle (Tiki artist about town - he did the >poster artwork for Exoticon, had a showing of Tiki art in Santa Monica and >will be part of the big La Luz Gallery "21th Century Tiki" art show opening >October 4, did covers for Bomboras, Karla Pundit, and of course his own bands >all done with wit style and charm) >The Cads have the damnedest catchiest tunes - I've been hummin 'em for weeks Great! Where do get them? Pick up Cocktail: Shaken & Stirred by the Royal Jelly Orchestra for a Canadian take on the whole Mike Flowers thing... Joe in TO feeling the US to Canada trade sting... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: springer@nyc.pipeline.com (D. Scott Springer) Subject: Baxter Date: 15 Sep 1996 16:28:40 GMT >----- Forwarded message (viktrola@usa.nai.net) -----< welcome to the "record industry" scott. that surreal world where Garth Brooks sells billions and no one cares about Joey Altruda. where David Lee Roth gets a standing ovation at the MTV Music awards but little or no press is given to Mel Torme's failing health. Vik- Yes, I guess if I really think about it, I do realize that places like Capitol are doing this only for the $$$. I just always hoped that there were some people around (like Scamp, etc) who were just doing it because they enjoy the music and wish to share it with others. Oh well..What can I say? Baxter wrote over 120 soundtracks and did not get a NYTimes obit, and Tupac gets shot and makes it to the front page of every NYC daily. Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Kilmartin Subject: Re: Baxter on GNP Crescendo Date: 15 Sep 1996 12:25:35 -0400 At 02:38 PM 15/09/1996 GMT, you wrote: > In addition to the Colors of Brazil/African Blue CD, >Baxter also did a series (with Neil Norman, who is, I believe, the son of >Gene Norman) called "Science Fiction's Greatest Hits." The group is >actually called "Neil Norman and his Cosmic Orchestra" and features Neil on >Theremin and Les on keyboards. In addition to the renditions of John >Williams' worst, each of the discs features at least two Baxter originals >(which are a little bizarre, but are nevertheless tinged with those subtle >Baxter-Ravel-Poulenc nuances (except they are rendered without strings). WHOAAAA!!! I didn't know that was Les!!! I got a sampler of that YEARS ago on a Flexi-disc (remember THOSE!?!) in a copy of Starlog! Now I'm gonna buy that CD! This is precisely the sort of thing the exotica mailing list is all about! Praise the List!!! Joe in TO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Kilmartin Subject: Re: Bleeker Bob's in L.A. Date: 15 Sep 1996 12:34:39 -0400 >Bleeker Bob's started out in NYC and then Bob moved out to Melrose in the >late '80s. I can vouch for every story of his customer antogonism that has >been posted - it's amazing with treatment like his that he has stayed in >business...Bob has been famous for overpricing records for two reasons 1.) >just so he can keep something interesting on his wall for a fairly extended >peroid of time and 2.) to see if there's somebody who doesn't know bettert is >willing to be fleeced...what was the WC Fields phrase? "There's a sucker born >every minute." There used to be a place in Toronto called Toronto's Incredible ecords, which ( besides being an outlet for it's owners incredible self-reverntial Woodstock collection and photocopies of Jim Morrisons comic strips from when he was in High School) was an awful lot like Bleeker Bob's. It was Officially nicknamed TO's Incredible PRICES... Good News Bad News... He went out of business 'cause things got so depressed financially that nobody would fork out his kind of scratch. Bad News, he moved out to California 'cause he knows "people are willing to spend quality American $ on stuff like this..." Beware.... Joe in TO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Kilmartin Subject: Re: Brigitte Bardot Date: 15 Sep 1996 12:40:27 -0400 At 02:25 PM 14/09/1996 -0500, you wrote: > >All of the instrumentals noted above are from the soundtrack LP 'The Brigitte >Bardot Show', released in Feb 68. The recording dates are unknown. > >A number of her other hits were released in the context of soundtracks for her >movies. She released a handful of regular LPs and quite a few 45s and EPs as >well. As one would expect, the covers evoke the quintessential 60s euro-pop >aesthetic - sassy, colorful, cinematic, and wondrous to behold. Now where did I >park my scooter? I saw a bit of her TV show on A&E's Biography about a year ago that was really Barbarella-ish and Groovy, where she was being sung to by this lounger as she struck a Wonder Woman pose and made "Batman" styled sound effect interjections. " 'tit femme Super-Hero..." "..BIF...Krak!!" " Que J'ai vu / dans le metro..." " ZZOT... Baf!!" TOOOO loopy... Joe in TO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Kilmartin Subject: Re: Exotica / Et Cetera LP List #6 Is DONE!!! Date: 15 Sep 1996 13:24:53 -0400 At 03:02 PM 13/09/1996 -0700, you wrote: >You heard right -- I've finally wrestled this bear to the ground. It's at >the printers, and when I get back from the West Coast next week, out it >flies. > >A few quick facts: > >--> 758 exotica, cheesecake, spoken word, SABPM, cartoon, belly dance and >just plain FUN original issue LPs (Baxter Frontiere Esquivel Hayman Hopkins >Lyman Kochak Mottola Nordine Rugulo Riddle Popp Scott Sumac 3 Suns--not to >mention The Waltons Tiny Tim Snagglepuss Laverne&Shirley Jayne Mansfield >and Anita Ekberg); > >--> 192 hip&hep soundtracks (Batman Flying Nun Daktari Blow Up Man From >UNCLE The Prisoner Wild Wheels Satan in High Heels); > >--> 463 jazz blues vocalists reggae folk (Coltrane Bob Wills Chet Baker >Woody Guthrie Bro. Jack McDuff Penquin Cafe Orch (!?) Mingus Bob Marley Ma >Rainey Swingle Singers Les Strand); and > >--> 330 rock/alternative (Mothers/Zappa Beefheart Dead Can Dance Cramps >Cream Traffic Tom Waits Clive Pig John Mayall Hendrix Dylan Bill Nelson >Nico Velvet Underground).... > >NOT TO MENTION--357 cover photos, 2 reviews, and assorted fun stuff throughout! > >This list is FREE (need your snail mail address) EXCEPT if you got my last >list and did not order anything--mailing/printing costs are way too high >for me to keep sending these out gratis--however, if you ordered from the >last list, (or since the last list) you're cool--otherwise, just drop me $2 >US / $3 non-US for a copy--I'll be including instructions for ways to keep >getting the lists without having to go through this every time... 'Kay... Wait a second... I didn't order from your last list ('cause I never knew it existed). I take it you still need the $2 from me? Not that I'm cheap, I'm just confused... Joee in TO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sberry Subject: Ultra Lounge Series To Be Given Away... Date: 14 Sep 1996 16:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Free Music From The Continental!! The first issue of The Continental will be out on October 1st. It will feature interviews with Dave Crider of Estrus Records & The Mono Men, The Quadrajets, and 8-Ball Shifer, The Gear Report from Evan of The Boss Martians, live reviews of Southern Culture On The Skids, Man Or Astroman?, The Mono Men, The Makers, and Gorilla, The Continental's Feature Drink, Man Or Astroman's latest releases reviewed, plus tons of music, film, and zine reviews. The first 6 subscribers will receive one of Capitol Records' 'Ultra Lounge' CD's, Volumes 7 through 12. Every subscriber beyond the initial 6 will also get free music selected from our vaults. Your free music will be sent to you with the first issue of The Continental that you receive as part of your subscription. For more information, check out our website at: http://www.az.com/~sberry Thanks, Sean The Continental # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peterp@inch.com (Peter Principle) Subject: drum machines Date: 15 Sep 1996 14:03:30 -0400 >Watch what you say about drum machine music. There is a lot of skill and >depth that can go into this too. Esquivel is planning on using the latest >technology for his new music. Many of these exotic gods were total >innovators of sound that would embrace today's technology. There is great >and godawful music in EVERY genre including "lounge". Just like there are >good and bad compilations, etc.. > >OK? > >Jill Right on girl. Maybe not everyone knows but Harry Breuer (yes, he of Mallet Magic and Mallett Mischeif, Happy Moog fame) worked for many years behind the scenes in TV and radio promotion using all of the latest advances in technology over a long and productive career, and in 1987 he released an LP on his 86th birthday on the Tabby Tone label called Mallets in Wonderland that consists almost entirely of Kurtzweil synth generated sounds (this was extremely new stuff at the time), and it manages to sound just like the music he played in the 60's, actually more like the soundtracks to the Harold Lloyd TV editted silent films that he did... you know crazy tempo ragtime riffs played on moogs and tuned percussion instruments). So now you know Anyway some of my favorite organ slingers use serious drum machine accompaniment especially Juan Torres and Klaus Wunderlich both recently discussed here Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Sando" Subject: Brigitte Bardot and Brasilian Tune Date: 15 Sep 1996 11:09:57 +0000 This talk of Bardot brings to mind a wild song that is on my Bardot collection (Polygram 830 296-2). Bardot calls it 'Tu Veux, Tu Veux Pas'. It's a kind of go-go quickie. It's also on the often discussed 'Espresso Espresso' comp as 'Nem Vem Que Nao Tem' by Wilson Simonal. I originally heard it on Italian diva Mina's Lp 'Canzonissima 68' as 'Sacumdi Sacumda'. I only speak Italian and Mina's version is about walking down the street and meeting the devil who declares "Hell isn't so bad". I was wondering if anyone here is familiar with the tune and what it's about in French and Portuguese. Mina is of course the gal who sang 'Spiral Waltz' on the '10th Victim' soundtrack. If anyone has questions about her, I'm a rather obsessive fan. Sarah Vaughan said at one point, "If I didn't have my voice, I'd want hers". Coconut Grove Media, publishers of MisterLUCKY PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 http://www.wco.com/~coconutg/ "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Flames Date: 15 Sep 1996 12:35:29 -0600 (MDT) > First of all, I would appreciate it very much if members of this list would > refrain from telling others to "LIGHTEN UP." The tone of this discussion is bothering me. I think *everyone* involved (myself included) needs to start to look at their posts before they send them to the list and think VERY hard about whether they're saying something that could be legitimately interpreted by someone else as being insulting -- and if it could, tone it down. This list hasn't had a genuine flame war on it since it started, and I don't care to see that change now. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: huge@sirius.com (Huge Graphics) Subject: Useless information Date: 15 Sep 1996 07:55:37 -0700 While people have been asking about Usenet lists (etc.) re: this list because of its ever-growing size, I'd like to suggest something...(and keep in mind that I thoroughly enjoy all of the great info I have obtained from this list....and as large as it gets, can't quite seem to unsubscribe) Can we keep the non-substantive replies down? and more importantly: When you are replying to someone personally, can you REPLY to that person at THEIR email address and not to the list? Thanks, and Flame On! David Bailey Huge Graphics http://www.sirius.com/~huge # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: garfinkel robby Subject: Hello & Misc. Date: 15 Sep 1996 15:48:46 -0400 (EDT) Hello everyone. This is my first post to the Exotica mailing list. I am excitied to know there is such a thing. I am fairly new to collecting (a little over two years) and honestly, I prefer CD. Why? Cause my stereo system sucks, but my CD system kicks butt. That's just how it worked out. Some day, after I pay my massive student loan, I will upgrade the stereo system, but for now... Honestly, I'd like to see more information here, and less bickering about compilations. I happen to love the Ultra Lounge series for no reason other than the fact that it gives me access to a lot of music I would otherwise not have. Yeah, they cheesy... who cares? What's important, the music, or the album covers? (Vinyl is a different story, of course). Yes, I would prefer if companies would release full artists albums, but thats a hell of a lot of albums. A hell of a lot of money. Oh, by the way, a few of the UL series discs do just simply suck. Enough of that. Here are some of my favorite new CD releases: Sound Gallery Vol. 1, Vamyros Lesbos, and Schulmadchen Report. I just got Sound Gallery vol 2 yesterday, and I have to say, it doesn't hold a candle to Vol. 1. It's not bad, but not very exciting either. Also, both of the discs cover art it is awful. Question: Anyone know France Gall? Robby # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades Date: 15 Sep 1996 18:28:11 -0400 At 04:17 PM 9/13/96 -0400, you wrote: >I'd have to agree with Kevin. I don't like listening to a whole CD of one >artist. I love the mixes of different artists, styles and music. The >compilations are just right for me, and for others to put this down, to me, >is inappropriate. Well I don't think that its inappropriate. They're just expressing their opinion, that's all. Some people like them and others would like to see something better. Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades Date: 15 Sep 1996 18:28:11 -0400 At 04:17 PM 9/13/96 -0400, you wrote: >I'd have to agree with Kevin. I don't like listening to a whole CD of one >artist. I love the mixes of different artists, styles and music. The >compilations are just right for me, and for others to put this down, to me, >is inappropriate. Well I don't think that its inappropriate. They're just expressing their opinion, that's all. Some people like them and others would like to see something better. Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades Date: 15 Sep 1996 18:40:18 -0400 At 12:24 PM 9/14/96 -0600, you wrote: > >Sure, there's a market -- the question is whether that market is big enough >for Capitol to try to exploit it. If they honestly believe that it is, they >will. (I'm not convinced that any US label *could* make money on a full >reissue program for Les Baxter or Esquivel, but I'd certainly do my best to >help them to.) > It's a lot different in Japan. There, they are willing to press say 5,000 to 10,000 copies of something obscure, then it quickly goes out of print because they are willing to cater to small collectors and markets. The big sellers over there make up for any losses the smaller pressings might incur. Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: Beating the Space Capades horse to death Date: 15 Sep 1996 18:43:20 -0400 At 12:36 AM 9/15/96 GMT, you wrote: >>----- Forwarded message (Stilgloria@aol.com) -----< > >I agree with Kevin that some of you need to lighten up a bit and just thank > >your lucky stars that this stuff is available in the first place. I don't >think there are a lot of people who are as hyped about this music as we >are. >I often ask people what they think of the bachelor pad/space >age/exotica/lounge music and ten times out of ten I get "What's that?" > >First of all, I would appreciate it very much if members of this list would >refrain from telling others to "LIGHTEN UP." If nobody agrees with my views >about comps versus reissues, that is quite fine. But please do not tell me >to lighten up. If everyone continues to be complacent about this, we can >expect Ultra Lounge volume 37 (Bongos in a Bordello) to be out by the end >of the year, by which point the whole "trend" will be over and NOTHING else >will be reissued. Think about it. > >Scott Here, here Scott!! I second that and agree with you 100% on this one. Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades (Brace yourselves, this is long...) Date: 15 Sep 1996 18:58:47 -0400 At 06:02 AM 9/15/96 -0600, you wrote: >Watch what you say about drum machine music. There is a lot of skill and >depth that can go into this too. Esquivel is planning on using the latest >technology for his new music. Many of these exotic gods were total >innovators of sound that would embrace today's technology. There is great >and godawful music in EVERY genre including "lounge". Just like there are >good and bad compilations, etc.. > Jill, I was agreeing with you up until this one. Most of the drum machine music I've heard is bloody awful and I couldn't be bothered with it. It takes more skill being an actual drummer (ne: live, breathing, human being) than a computer programmer who uses machines to produce the AM/FM dribble that predominates the airwaves. No flame, just my opinion. Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: Bleeker Bob's in L.A. Date: 15 Sep 1996 19:08:57 -0400 At 12:34 PM 9/15/96 -0400, you wrote: > >Good News Bad News... > >He went out of business 'cause things got so depressed financially that >nobody would fork out his kind of scratch. > >Bad News, he moved out to California 'cause he knows "people are willing to >spend quality American $ on stuff like this..." > >Beware.... > >Joe in TO > I guess Bob thinks that there are a lot of assholes out in the golden state, willing to pay his prices. I wonder why? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: Flames Date: 15 Sep 1996 19:14:53 -0400 At 12:35 PM 9/15/96 -0600, you wrote: >> First of all, I would appreciate it very much if members of this list would >> refrain from telling others to "LIGHTEN UP." > >The tone of this discussion is bothering me. I think *everyone* involved >(myself included) needs to start to look at their posts before they send >them to the list and think VERY hard about whether they're saying >something that could be legitimately interpreted by someone else as being >insulting -- and if it could, tone it down. > >This list hasn't had a genuine flame war on it since it started, and I don't >care to see that change now. > I disagree. I know you run the list but I should point out by saying that I have read the posts over the last couple of days and have found little if anything to be offensive. People are just disagreeing, that's all. If you really want to look at a flame war remember the big one in 1995 over bootlegs? I do. This is nowhere near the intensity of that debacle, so I think you are worrying about nothing. IMOP, Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MoeLawns@aol.com Subject: LOST EPISODE REMASTER Date: 15 Sep 1996 21:12:38 -0400 >Saw the LOST EPISODE__ CD__ last night, and wondered if that was the "remastered" version that is so oft refered to on this list...The CD had nothing on it to indicate whether it was indeed remastered, or just a version of the uh, un-remastered(?) 10" that came out recently? Someone help this confused Les-lass< Hi! No, the un-remastered 10" didn't come out recently. It came out at the same time as the first version of the CD (All our vinyl/cd versions of a title come out at the exact same moment unless it's a reissue of one of our old titles). The remastered version of both the Lp and CD also came out at the exact same nanosecond. We had enough paper parts to do the second pressing, and at our level, we can't afford to scrap paper, so we used them up, which is why we opted for the sticker. Here's how you can tell the difference. On the CD, near the center, you will see the following; "BA07/RE1". On the remastered vinyl version, the scribe in the lead out reads "BA07A#2 & BA07B#2. Wish I had time to chat on other subjects but....we're so busy we don't even have time to pay attention! Lee # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: The market Date: 15 Sep 1996 19:36:34 -0600 (MDT) >When the 1st Esquivel compilation CD was released by Bar None, RCA/BMG had >said they ONLY wanted 5,000 units sold. > >That's where their break even point was at;) >That CD in its 1st year sold very close to 40,000. Damn, that's pretty good. Why the hell don't the majors gets their fingers out and release this stuff then?? (NOTE: the Esquivel releases WERE compilations, which is what people have been moaning about) Jill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: Baxter on GNP Crescendo Date: 15 Sep 1996 21:40:58 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-15 10:56:28 EDT, you write: >Do you (or does anyone else) know what exactly Baxter's arrangement was >with GNP Crescendo? GNP merely reissued the albums becuase it was still in their catalog. In addition to the Colors of Brazil/African Blue CD, >Baxter also did a series (with Neil Norman, who is, I believe, the son of >Gene Norman) called "Science Fiction's Greatest Hits." The group is >actually called "Neil Norman and his Cosmic Orchestra" and features Neil on >Theremin and Les on keyboards. In addition to the renditions of John >Williams' worst, each of the discs features at least two Baxter originals >(which are a little bizarre, but are nevertheless tinged with those subtle >Baxter-Ravel-Poulenc nuances (except they are rendered without strings). I >wonder if GNP has any more Baxter stuff around. I'm not sure if Baxter did any more stuff for GNP. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bodiodo@aol.com Subject: Re: Bleeker Bob's in L.A. Date: 15 Sep 1996 21:42:59 -0400 Howdy, Ashley! In a message dated 96-09-14 17:19:38 EDT, you wrote: > Bob has been famous for overpricing records for two reasons >1.) just so he can keep something interesting on his wall for a fairly extended > peroid of time and >2.) to see if there's somebody who doesn't know bettert > is willing to be fleeced...what was the WC Fields phrase? "There's a sucker > born every minute. W. C. Fields is credited with many pithy sayings, but "There's a sucker born every minute," is ascribed to Phineas T. Barnum, famed circus entrepreneur. I hate to think that this famous manipulator of human nature could in any way be associated with the smarmy-sounding B. Bob! Say it isn't so! Beau di Audeau The tales I've heard of B. Bob have made me decide to never set foot in his emporiums. He sounds utterly smarmy from these accounts, so much so that I find it difficult to appreciate his unxplainable success. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: Bleeker Bob's in L.A. Date: 15 Sep 1996 21:51:53 -0400 ALERT ALERT ALERT BLEEKER BOB SIGHTING 2:15 PM SUNDAY SEPT 15!!! Well Bleeker Bob spotters - I just saw "the legend" today, and he wearing a suit that looked like he slept in it and was moaning to a woman who was selling albums at an antiques fair on 25th street that "all the good stuff's probably already taken." - as if it was her fault he woke up late! Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: drum machines Date: 15 Sep 1996 22:07:40 +0000 I've seen Gershon Kingsley' and Henry Mancini's (R.I.P.) studio's mostly consisting of MIDI Keyboards and a drum box or two.These guys would have used digital keyboards with thousands of presets and samplers if they were around in the 60's. Moog Modulars in the early 60's were considered scientific instruments NOT MUSICAL instruments (and definetly not cheap).They (MOOG,ARP) had a very hard time convincing music stores to sell these things.As for my self ,I still love and use mostly analog equipment just because you can't emulate it with modern equipment.It's much more organic (in sound, action and reaction). Jazz and Funk sounds like crap on most new equipment (ie. Herbie Hancock on "Head Hunters" and Herbie on "Sound System"."Head Hunters" is CLASSIC with Rhoads,Clavinet,Wurli and ARP Synths,Real Drums and Sax....BUT "Sound Machine" use's those CHEEEEESY drum machines and Fairlights and DX-7's it sounds like S#%T.Still, it's up to the artist but it USUALLY sounds better with analog or real instruments) .Even Kraftwerk lost it with their all Synclavier "Electric Cafe",and they are Gods of Electronic music. Jason The Pygmy Taxi Corp http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik@top.monad.net Subject: Re: The market Date: 15 Sep 1996 22:18:06 -0400 (EDT) Jill Mingo writes: >Damn, that's pretty good. Why the hell don't the majors gets their fingers >out and release this stuff then?? (NOTE: the Esquivel releases WERE >compilations, which is what people have been moaning about) The basic problem is one of economies of scale. Major labels are big and have a lot of people on their payroll. Their pricing structure reflects that, not to mention the fact that they have to sell a *lot* more copies of a title in order to break even. Whereas an indie label can break even at 5,000 copies or less of a given title, a major label has to sell two, three, or four times that number, depending on how much the project cost to put together, promotional costs, etc. Many major labels won't even keep a C.D. in print if it sells less than 1,000 copies a year. Below that point it's cheaper for them to destroy what stock they have on hand of a title than it is for them to leave a title hogging space in a warehouse. Weird, huh? And it's also a problem of finite resources. There are always a lot of ideas for re-issue projects kicking around at major labels, but they can't do everything at once. I have no real love for major labels, but oftentimes it's in their interest to work closely with a smaller re-issue label, like Rhino, Rykodisc, or Razor and Tie so that people will stop screaming at them. --Jon Johnson erik@top.monad.net North Swanzey, New Hampshire # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: springer@nyc.pipeline.com (D. Scott Springer) Subject: (Fwd) Flames Date: 16 Sep 1996 03:44:11 GMT >----- Forwarded message ("Lazlo Nibble" ) -----< > First of all, I would appreciate it very much if members of this list would > refrain from telling others to "LIGHTEN UP." The tone of this discussion is bothering me. I think *everyone* involved (myself included) needs to start to look at their posts before they send them to the list and think VERY hard about whether they're saying something that could be legitimately interpreted by someone else as being insulting -- and if it could, tone it down. Am I to assume that my request that people refrain from telling others to "LIGHTEN UP" is offensive? I am offended that everyone keeps telling me to lighten up. I appreciate and enjoy listening to this music and I also enjoy learning more about it and discussing it with others. Telling one to "LIGHTEN UP" adds absolutely nothing to the discourse. Thank you, Scott btw If I happened to ever say anything that was even REMOTELY insulting, I would be very curious to know what it was. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: LIGHT UP ;-)> Date: 15 Sep 1996 21:22:12 +0000 1st off,i gotta tell you all that this has been tremendously entertaining. i do think though it's gotten to be old and tired, like me;) i'm not sure if you know how lucky you are ;) i crawled on my stomach with air masks on in basements that were dusty and dirty with a miner's cap and flashlight on my head looking for records that i didn't even know what they were, gotten up at 5 in the morning _many times_ to do saturday garage sales and spent thousands of dollars which i happened to have trying to figure all of this shit out!!! AND i can rememebr saying to friends 10 years ago; "do you think anyone else will discover esquivel besides guys like us ? and my friend said "naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" it's too fucking weird and brilliant. the public are sheep. you guys and gals simply walk into a record store and get to buy on cd a bunch of super fucking cool shit just like that. life is such a bitch, ain't it ? compilations or full LP's ? their both great in as what this music is and how rare and amazing it is. it's a goddamn miracle that sooooo much of it is available to all of us,even us record junkies btw, sound gallery volume 2 from SCAMP is 5 stars!!! all time great and much better than the 1st volume. electric sitar everywhere ;-)> "Record collecting is no mere hobby, no leisurely innocuous diversion. It's a feverish passion bordering on dementia, driving those under its influence including myself, to irrational, compulsive and sometimes fanatical extremes." 3-93 Jack Diamond Bye for now, Jack ;-)> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bryan Jare Cuevas Subject: More Abstract/Wordless Vocals Date: 15 Sep 1996 18:21:19 -0400 (EDT) Just picked up a couple of fab releases with some smooth wordless vocal work - check these out: (1) Stan Getz "Voices" (Verve 1966; CD reissue) This album is included with "Cool Velvet" from 1960. (2) Paul Desmond "Paul Desmond Quintet/Quartet" (OJC reissue) Two albums formerly entitled: "Paul Desmond" (1956) and "Paul Desmond Quartet featuring Don Elliott" (1957), with the Bill Bates Singers - relaxed west coast sound, and dig that chorus. Nice! b. cuevas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: soundbliss9@earthlink.net Subject: Denny - Exotic Moog Date: 15 Sep 1996 23:33:08 -0600 Picked up an VG+/EX- copy of Deny's "Exotic Moog" for a measly buck. This was his last Liberty release, right? I was always under the impression that this was one of his rarer albums. I know I scored a winner--it's a great disk. Any other info on the disk? soundbliss9@earthlink.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: Atomic Records, L. A. Date: 16 Sep 1996 02:51:40 -0400 Can't recommend this place highly enough not because owner Steve is my friend and partner on Exoticon '95 but because he has tons of experience working at Rhino and Record Surplus and has tons of stock in this brand new store and the prices run from dirt cheap to very fair on collectible items ph 818/848-7090 3818 west Magnolia Bl Burbank, CA 91505 1 1/2 blocks west of Hollywood Way # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keithd@netcom.com (Keith Doyle) Subject: Re: CD comps / reissues Date: 15 Sep 1996 23:53:39 PDT Thom Heileson writes: >Just this... All these compilations are not inherently a bad >thing (I also wish, in my perfect world, that all this stuff would >be reissued as-were with the same album cover art on the >CD sleeve, but Jill sounds pretty right on about the reasons >this will not happen)... I would agree that compilations are not inherently a bad thing, but the argument that compilations are good so that you can "find out what you like" only makes sense when the compilations are like "samplers" where once you find out what you like you can then go and buy more of just the specific artists that appeal to you. If there is no "more" available of these artists, the concept of compilations as such samplers is bogus. To me, compilations are good as lead-ins to complete albums of whatever appeals to you but most cases here, the "samplers" are all there is, or you have to look for the artists that appeal to you on other compilations where you get only one or maybe two songs by any given artist which is only cost effective when the compilations are priced like singles which they usually aren't. Keith Doyle keithd@netcom.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re:electronic dance music for Joe Date: 16 Sep 1996 04:44:50 -0600 (MDT) >Now if you have any suggestions that I *should* be listening to, I'd love to >check them out. Joe, Off the top of my head, here are two relatively easy to find releases in the UK (try indie or dance shops) that might serve as good examples of electronic dance music with beauty... U-ziq "PH1/1700/??" on R&S Records, Belgium 69 Not sure of title, but it is an LP, also on R&S Records, Belgium Jake Slazenger "Das ist Ein Groovy Beat, Ja?" Warp Records, UK There are tons of 12" singles by various artists that would also fit, but this stuff is extremely underground and hard to find - even if you know where to look. A lot of it only exists in 2000 copies that came out 3 years ago. If you REALLY have luck, look for: NATION TO NATION WORLD TO WORLD GALAXY TO GALAXY EPs, all on Underground Resistance, Detroit. This is where beauty and rhythm meet. Dance music is music for the feet, but it can also be from the soul too. A lot is very tribal. Like most music, the stuff that is EASILY heard is usually the most bland. When you dig deeper (in all genres), some real gems can be found... Jill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: (Fwd) Space Capades (Brace yourselves, this is long...) Date: 16 Sep 1996 05:04:43 -0600 (MDT) >Jill, I was agreeing with you up until this one. Most of the drum machine >music I've heard is bloody awful and I couldn't be bothered with it. It >takes more skill being an actual drummer (ne: live, breathing, human being) >than a computer programmer who uses machines to produce the AM/FM dribble >that predominates the airwaves. No flame, just my opinion. > >Bryan Bryan, Please see my comments to Joe on electronic dance music. As I said to him, digging below the surface usually provides enlightening results in all genres of music. I can appreciate that if you have never heard anything remotely interesting in this field, you aren't likely to dig deeper, but the good stuff ain't gettin' played on AM/FM radio and it is far harder to find (considering it is "current" music) than almost anything on this list.The amount of "technohead" kids who got into electronic dance music, still go out groovin', and buy loads of exotica is growing all the time. I think the connection between the two is bigger than a lot of people realise. I'm not sure where you are living, but here in Europe, decent electronic music, while hard to find, IS "findable", whereas in my home country, the US, finding decent electronic (while getting easier) is like a quest for the Holy Grail. Music is my life's passion. Keep digging below the surface and untold wonders and beauty will be found. Jill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: powellro@wg53.eglin.af.mil Subject: Bongos (was Re: Send a drink to my table...) Date: 16 Sep 1996 08:18:24 CST I don't want to get everyone hot under the collar (and was it my post about Space Capades and Populuxe that set off this firestorm? I made a Space Capades post, then my AOL account (oh yes, I have a special ring of hell reserved for those jokers) got porked, so I lost the first replies in the thread...), but, in the spirit of lightening up... Someone on the exotica list (I dunno who, since that info doesn't seem to have made it into my e-mail here at work) wrote: >we can expect Ultra Lounge volume 37 (Bongos in a Bordello) to be out by >the end of the year Oh man, you're kidding! I've been waiting for this one for sooo long! Gonna fire up the lava lamp, put on my best Hawaiian shirt (with 501's and Tony Lama boots, natch!), whip up a batch of some exotic concoction to pour into my favorite tiki glass, and repeat-play Bongos 'til the cows come home! Along the same thread, Cherie wrote: >I have been reading this 'discussion' and I have one question...Why are >you people listening to this music? I listen because I like it, it is >fun...and it is pretty light. I listen because I like it, and it's loads of fun. I don't have very limited musical tastes...Abba, Garth Brooks, Mozart, Cecilia Bartoli, Ultravox, and many many others all party down side-by-side on my CD racks, along with Space Capades, Mondo Exotica, and Melodies and Mischief. >So Jack and Scott, please play some lighthearted music on Thursday and >send me a Tequila Sunrise. And tell that Bar to get some drink >umbrellas....... Send me a Blue Hawaiian while you're at it! With a big umbrella with the fruit stuck on it. >Cherie >amycamus@interport.net Bob Powell (the opening of Bob's Vegas On The Web has been delayed due to aforesaid porking of AOL account) powellro@wg53.eglin.af.mil (and soon, I hope, again rlpowelljr@aol.com) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bryan Jare Cuevas Subject: Re: Comps as Samplers Date: 16 Sep 1996 10:12:14 -0400 (EDT) According to Keith Doyle: > but the argument that compilations are good so that you can > "find out what you like" only makes sense when the compilations > are like "samplers" where once you find out what you like you > can then go and buy more of just the specific artists that > appeal to you. If there is no "more" available of these > artists, the concept of compilations as such samplers is bogus. No more? That's why you go ** record ** shopping at your local thrifts/flea markets - the cheap and exciting solution. But, if you've chosen to stay in California or NYC then you're apparently out of luck. IMHO these compilations can work wonderfully as "samplers". Hang in there.... b. cuevas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: gonna see dean Date: 16 Sep 1996 12:28:01 -0400 Friends of Dean Martinez, that is, for free, tonight in Tampa, FL...I know they come highly recommended by many on this list..what's a girl to expect tonight? I realize none of you Gonna-see-Yma types are jealous of this, however.. Hasty replies appreciated, Lounge Laura-who has only flamed her list-friends, I believe... laura@wusf.usf.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Sando" Subject: Re:electronic dance music for Joe Date: 16 Sep 1996 10:43:26 +0000 > >Now if you have any suggestions that I *should* be listening to, > >I'd love to check them out. > that might serve as > good examples of electronic dance music with beauty... > > also on R&S Records, Belgium > Jake Slazenger "Das ist Ein Groovy Beat, Ja?" Warp Records, UK > Beauty? I think this is fun, and being generous I'd even call it clever, but it's hard for me to consider it a thing of beauty or even a serious work. The attitude is a gas and I think he knows a good hook when he hears it but ultimnately it's too repetitive (for me!). The problem with a lot of this music (and modern music in general) is the lack of a melody. People just don't write 'em like they used to! I know, "it's not about the melody", but when someone can combine innovation, melody, harmony, rhythm and inspire me to have a cocktail, then I'll be impressed. Coconut Grove Media, publishers of MisterLUCKY PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 http://www.wco.com/~coconutg/ "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re:electronic dance music for Joe Date: 16 Sep 1996 13:54:21 -0400 Steve, I read the end of your post. Is "MrLucky" a magazine? Can you send me info about it? Thanks. Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Dick Hyman & Vinnie Bell Live!!!? Date: 16 Sep 1996 11:07:59 +0000 Exoticon '95 I heard that Exoticon '95 was a "huge success" I also heard that Dick Hyman was to Headline "Exoticon '96" BUT was deemed not to make the grade as a Headliner. How many people here would have gone to Exoticon '96 with Dick Hyman as top bill on Moog, Electric Harpsicord with Vinnie Bell on Electric Guitar and Electric Sitar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuckin' A man!!! ______________________ Atomic Records, L. A. I went to Atomic Records when I was in LA in May and left empty handed. A loss for both of us. I think more a loss for me than them as I spoent how much in gas and time ??? to find nothing ?? Maybe I'll go back again BUT maybe not when there are soooo many great stores in LA and the Southern CA area that have TONS OF KILLER SHIT. Why would I want to go back there ? I don't know Dick Hyman and Vinnie Bell top bill at Exoticon '96!!! Who would go ? The people in charge of that event said that the reason Exoticon '96 didn't happen was because they didn't think anybody would come Anybody being 2,000 people minimum. Only 2,000 people Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: record prices (Bleeker) Date: 16 Sep 1996 14:09:27 -0400 It still is possible to get an excellent copy of "Other Sounds, Other Worlds" for as little as $.25, but chances are that by the time you do, you will have spent well over $100 worth of your time. Years can go by unless you're well-connected and very driven or lucky. I no longer get annoyed that a retail outfit decorates its wall for a year until some well-heeled advertisting type buys it for the artwork (or as a gift for someone else or whatever). It's silly to assume that the record must be sold at listed price and to act like it's your right to get the price you want to pay. All these records are out there. "Vinyl's drying up" is a big lie. The exotica/space-age market is just starting to bloom. But either do the legwork or pay someone else; buy now or hold out indefinitely. You can always sell it later. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: The market Date: 16 Sep 1996 18:09:46 GMT >>>> (VG++/Mint/Stereo/RCA LSP 2658) >Sid Ramin-New Threshholds in Sound-------$10 >>>>Sid Ramin composed/arranged/conducted the music for the eerie >>>>electronic/orchestrated score of Stiletto which BTW is absolutely >>>>brilliant if you don>>>Sid Ramin arranged and scored the music for West Side Story and won an >>>>academy award for it and he is also a great arranger/conductor for Space >>>>Age Pop, Surprised ;))!!!?? >>>>Titles include Strike Up The Band w/ a full fife and drum/bugle corps w/ >>>>the orchestra; >>>>April in Paris, Hernando RCA space age pop >>>>brilliance >>>>You're gonna like this :))))))))))) > >Jack, > >I _did_ have this if you're still interested ;) >The next Man From UNCLE is your's, I promisey yes please. >Jack hey Jack! yeh, i think that you are correct. i will like it. i spin cuts from "the sound america loves best," frequently. sorry, if i'm stirring up emotions on the net. i'm surprised how many people disagree with me. think i'll lay low for awhile. and as i posted, i truly am sorry if i caused you to rethink your signoff. j will send out check tomorrow. what was the postage etc. again? jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: New approach to marketing reissues (Labels TRY THIS!) Date: 16 Sep 1996 14:18:27 -0400 >Am I wrong? Would not virtually EVERYONE on this list be inclined to promptly >slap down $20 for a properly-done "Infinity In Sound Vols. 1&2" or "Fever & >Smoke/Movin' & Groovin'" CD? Get real. I wouldn't trade the vinyl for those CDs AND $20. Tony "virtually smirtually" Wilds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: MoRe Baxter on GNP Date: 16 Sep 1996 14:31:33 -0400 >> In addition to the Colors of Brazil/African Blue CD, >>Baxter also did a series (with Neil Norman, who is, I believe, the son of >>Gene Norman) called "Science Fiction's Greatest Hits." The group is >>actually called "Neil Norman and his Cosmic Orchestra" and features Neil on >>Theremin and Les on keyboards. In addition to the renditions of John >>Williams' worst, each of the discs features at least two Baxter originals >>(which are a little bizarre, but are nevertheless tinged with those subtle >>Baxter-Ravel-Poulenc nuances (except they are rendered without strings). Don't leave out the great "Love is Blue" LP and the mighty "Moog Rock." Just picked up the cassette of Sci-Fi's Greatest, but as I listen it seems to need a little surgery. Aaaa, in the trash it goes. Caramba. Then there's the Arthur Lyman LP where AL sings, Neil plays guitar, and Baxter does the vocal arrangements. It's all just one vast club where everyone does the same thing with each other over and over, like barflies in a small town. Tony "who me, jaded?" Wilds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Baxter on GNP Crescendo Date: 16 Sep 1996 14:42:19 -0400 >>Do you (or does anyone else) know what exactly Baxter's arrangement was >>with GNP Crescendo? > >GNP merely reissued the albums becuase it was still in their catalog. >I'm not sure if Baxter did any more stuff for GNP. > >Ashley It's apparent that Neil and Baxter were close friends as well as collaborators on many GNP projects. As in: "Hey Les, wanna play piano on my next fantasy LP where I, like, dress up in monster suits and play guitar and like, theremin and stuff, and, and...?" Tony "GNP envy" Wilds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Denny - Exotic Moog Date: 16 Sep 1996 14:51:26 -0400 At 11:33 PM 9/15/96 -0600, you wrote: >Picked up an VG+/EX- copy of Deny's "Exotic Moog" for a measly buck. >This was his last Liberty release, right? Heck no. (All those records on Sunset are Liberty releases.) >I was always under the impression that this was one of his rarer albums. MD hisself said it "sold in the dozens" in the ISM book. "A Taste of India" was the last of [all] the MD records I obtained. Tony "moog rogue" Wilds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: The market Date: 16 Sep 1996 19:42:58 GMT yikes! and here i wanted to lay low for awhile. my apologies for accidentally posting a personal response. jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ccarlson@wgl.com Subject: CD's and Moog Rock Date: 16 Sep 1996 15:36:35 -0400 Tony Wilds wrote: <<>Am I wrong? Would not virtually EVERYONE on this list be inclined >to promptly slap down $20 for a properly-done "Infinity In Sound >Vols. 1&2" or "Fever & Smoke/Movin' & Groovin'" CD?>> >Get real. I wouldn't trade the vinyl for those CDs AND $20. I agree, but incompletely. I have long vowed (as exotica is one of my 'B' list hobbies) never to buy an exotic CD, and never pay more than $2 for any vinyl. But in the three years I've been rooting this stuff up, I have yet to find even ONE Esquivel platter and I'm begining to feel the strain... And 15 minutes later Tony Wilds wrote: >Don't leave out the great "Love is Blue" LP and the mighty "Moog >Rock." Is this the same 'Moog Rock' that I have??? With the couple embracing on the cover? It's *pathetic* wimpy stuff, isn't it? Give me Dick Hyman at the Lowery any time. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: CD's and Moog Rock Date: 16 Sep 1996 16:37:39 -0400 Responding to C Carlson: >and never pay more than $2 for any vinyl. Bet you're great on a date! ;) > Is this the same 'Moog Rock' that I have??? With the couple embracing > on the cover? It's *pathetic* wimpy stuff, isn't it? Give me Dick > Hyman at the Lowery any time. Obviously, you're not big on moog (wise enough; most of the records are weak) or Baxter (gotta luv 'im). With the exception of "Moon Gas" but including his moog records, Dick Hyman is often wonderful but just not in the same league as the Great One. It's more of an accomplishment for Baxter, who was not a lifelong keyboard slave but did have the stuff to create a moog work of above-average originality and power. There's NOTHING pathetic or wimpy about "Moog Rock," unless you just can't get past the classical/rock fusion. If this were chess, you'd be trading your queen for a knight, a 3-to-1 losing proposition. Listen to "Moog Rock" again with volume (and separate those speakers). The cheesiness of the jacket indicates a good record inside. Tony "in a foul moog" Wilds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: misant@ic.net Subject: misanthropy 511 playlist Date: 16 Sep 1996 17:19:50 -0500 MISANTHROPY 511--p.o.box 23093--detroit, mi 48223 e-mail: misant@ic.net PLAYLIST ARTIST---------TITLE--------------------CD/CASS/LP--------LABEL SEPTEMBER 9, 1996 JACK FASCINATO-foggy recollections------music surplus store-CAPITOL SCOT JENERIK---tracks 1-2-----------3000 words CRAWL UNIT-----degenerative experiment--remains-----------POVERTECH CRAWL UNIT-----loss----------------aftermusic----------POVERTECH NOISEGATE------track 1------------------excavation day----NOISEGATE MARCY----------let the sunshine in------marcy favorites---CONERSTONE OTTO LUENING---low speed----------------pioneers electron-COMPOSERS ZOVIET FRANCE--haze polder--------------digilogue---------SOLEILMOON I.A.M. UMBRELLA-masque------------------v.a.blind gallery-FREEDOM VAC JACK FASCINATO-spring sprang sprung-----music surplus store-CAPITOL PIERRE SCHAEFFER-tracks 1-2-------------les incunables1948-50-INA.GRM CM VON HAUSSWOLF-imaginary landscape #5-plays john cage---POVERTECH PROPELLER------track 10-----------rame------------SCRATCH RICHARD RAMiREZ-i am not who you think i am-catholic-----PINCH A LOAF PERVASIVE PERCUSS-man onflying trapeze--pervasive percussion-SUTTON CURRENT 93-----lashtal------------------lashtal----------L.A.Y.L.A.H. MUSLIMGAUZE----empty quarter (pt.1)-----hunting out w/ an aerial eye NOCTURNAL EMISSIONS-smear campaign 7²---fruiting body----STERILE H.N.A.S.-------brate mich auf offenem feuer-melchior---UNITED DAIRIES KAPOTTE MUZIEK-muster-------------------the malevolent ear-RED STREAM GEORGE SHEARING Q.-yesterday¹s child----mood latino------CAPITOL SEPTEMBER 16, 1996 JONAH JONES----sleepy lagoon------------great instrumental-CAPITOL CRAWL UNIT-----a thing of beauty..------v.a.accel world--PINCH A LOAF BERNHARD GUNTER-stone circles-----------details agrandis--SELEKTION DISINFORMATION-data storm pt. 1---------ghost shells------ASH INCAPACITANTS--term structure wrestling-v.a.extreme japan-SUSAN LAWLY OVAL-----------schoner wissen---------systemisch--------THRILL JOCK MNORTHAM-------condensation-------------condensation------POVERTECH CHRIS WATSON---moray firth, scotland----stepping into dark-TOUCH HARRY BERTOIA--passage------------------all & more/passage-SONAMBIENT LIFE GARDEN/ VOICE OF EYE-track 6-------hungry void 2:air-AGNI TONY MOTTOLA---cry me a river-----------warm,wild,wonderful-PROJECT 3 HUNTING LODGE--icepick method----------will--------------S/M OPERATI FACTRIX/ CAZAZZA-death by hanging-------california babylon-SUBTERRANEAN THE LEATHER NUN-slow death--------------slow death--------WIRE CONTROLLED BLEEDING-knees---------------knees and bones---PSYCHOUT ESQUIVEL-------sun valley ski run-------strings aflame----RCA A PRODUCE------empty pause--------------inscape & landscapeTRANCE PORT THESE ARE GREAT TIMES TO BE A MISANTHROPIST !! Misanthropy 511 is broadcast on Sunday nights from mid-2am on CJAM 91.5 fm Windsor, Ontario Canada. CJAM can be heard throughout the Windsor/ Detroit Michigan area. Misanthropy 511 features from easy listening to moments of mayhem. Noises of the modern world in living stereo. We would like to thank all who have sent us promos. It is greatly appreciated. Misanthropy 511 is also broadcasted monthly on Radio Marabu. Radio Marabu is based in Belm Germany and broadcast at various times on 13 different stations throughout Europe. It is also on shortwave. Write to Radio Marabu for more info and tell them Misanthropy sent you. Radio Marabu p.o.box 1166, 49187, Belm Germany . e-mail: radiomarabu@t-online.de web site: http://www.dma.be/p/amphion/sztuka/marabu.html The performance side of Misanthropy, The Hearing Trumpet,continues hard at work. We have several self-released cassettes available and are currently working on new projects. The Hearing Trumpet has been described by others as #radio concret#, #ambient noise#, & #distant rumblings#.Write for more info or ordering. David Warmbier & Greg Hallock # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: Denny - Exotic Moog Date: 16 Sep 1996 15:55:10 -0600 (MDT) >>I was always under the impression that this was one of his rarer albums. > >MD hisself said it "sold in the dozens" in the ISM book. "A Taste of India" >was the last of [all] the MD records I obtained. Sorry, had to reply, but this is so weird. I live in the UK, you can't find this music for love or money, and I have two copies of "Exotic Moog" - one has an obnoxious scratch in "Quiet Village", but my friend got it for me for 50 cents, and the other is mint that a friend of mine sent me from Copenhagen. Was previously owned by a radio station. And my total cost for these: $0.00. I must be the luckiest person alive or something. And thank God for good friends.... Jill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thom Heileson Subject: Combustible Edison: Solid Show Date: 16 Sep 1996 12:28:56 -0700 The Combustible Edison show, last night at the Crocodile Cafe in Seattle, was magnificent as always. Two long, fab sets. Turns out it was the last stop on their tour. Their ever-charming and understated diva just gets dee-lovelier, singing-style-wise, all the time. Her vox on the ballads was breathy, angelic, enChanteuse-enchanting as anything. She seems to be experimenting with her style a bit more than the last time I saw them, i.e. the vocals sound less and less like the recordings per se; she is stretching out the timing on the lines, in a jazzesque fashion. She is also quite the "Renaissance Woman," constantly switching from bongos to xylos to drums etc. And the rest of the band showed themselves, again, to be artistes of the highest order. Highlights included a grande ratio of Denny/Tiki-esque instrumentals, and some amazing soloing by all involved. "Solid State" (my personal fave) featured some niceNice space-electro soundz by the keyboardist, as well as a brilliant intro by the effervescent guitarist-slash-M.C. (the king of Loungeact monologuing, in my book) They did some nice swanky standards in addition to their usual repertoire, such as "Summer Samba" ("So Nice") and "Music To Watch Girls By"... (Speaking of "Music To..." -- anyone on this list residing in the PacNW should check out Dudley Manlove Quartet if they haven't. They played to an adoring audience Saturday nite at the OK Hotel. DMQ are simply a blast to see: lots o great 60s and 70s covers done with mucho flair.) Enough rattling on for now; I simply had to say Kudos to these guys... + --- Thom S. Heileson + + - _oR_ + - phASER@wolfenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ccarlson@wgl.com Subject: Cheap date? Date: 16 Sep 1996 18:27:10 -0400 Responding to C Carlson: OK, I'll try it again, but for this sort of thing go to the source: W. Carlos. But I like Baxter; "Moog Rock" just has a 'knock-off' feel to it that his good and/or great work doesn't.. I mean, check the running time of the record! Not that quantity=quality, but this is pretty short! Or do I have a re-issue? <>and never pay more than $2 for any vinyl. Bet you're great on a date! ;)> Does this mean dinner and the thrift store in not the way to go? Craig craig_carlson@wgl.com or: ccarlson@wgl.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HIFI Subject: gerald wiggins/jerry wiggins Date: 16 Sep 1996 17:52:00 -0500 looking for a gerald wiggins WIGGIN' OUT hifi album (cat # J618)with a mint cover. also need, jerry wiggins WIGGING WITH THE WIG album (dunno the original cat # or label) mint cover. and while I'm at it: JACK BONGO BURGER's The End On Bongos hifi 804 - both the photo cover and the painting cover. send all missives to ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ David Greenberg hifi@rykodisc.com HIFI/Rykodisc Shetland Park 27 Congress St. Salem MA 01915 "if it ain't hi-fi, it's low-brow" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: guinto@id.ucsb.edu (Marie Guinto) Subject: Re: Marie's the name Date: 16 Sep 1996 16:13:28 -0800 Hi Ford, I just received your list, all I can say is WOW!!! I took off work Friday (Yes a three day weekend), so I didn't have a chance to write you this weekend. I'll comprise a list tonight and get back to you. Thanks so much for doing this. I'm searching through my show tapes for a fun one. Thanks again, Marie guinto@id.ucsb.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Cheap date? Date: 16 Sep 1996 19:19:32 -0400 >OK, I'll try it again, but for this sort of thing go to the source: W. Carlos. If you want the "Tron" soundtrack, lemme know. >[Moog Rock] is pretty short! Ramones rule #1: Shorter is BETTER. Leave 'em hungry and all that. >Does this mean dinner and the thrift store in not the way to go? Many thrifters drink their dinner, which'll run your wallet dry but fast! I like to take 'em to buy "dented cans" at grocery fleas on Sunday morning -- you can get all sorts of gourmet food really cheap. And Pop Rocks, the Action Candy. That way you don't compete for tiki mugs and you can make dinner. Tony "Pop Rocks 'n Jolt" Wilds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Jerry Cole & his Spacemen Date: 16 Sep 1996 19:21:08 -0400 Ahh, sweet surf. What else did Jerry Cole & his Spacemen do besides the EXTRA-STUPENDOUSLY TERRIFIC "Outer Limits" LP (Wipeout, Sukiyaki, Pipeline, Midnight Surfer, Point Panic, Tequila, Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow, etc.)? So great. Must have more. Wished there'd been some of this blasting out over those awesome hurricane waves a week ago (ok, so on the East Coast it still means a passably good time on a short board at best). Scorching guitar. Also enjoying Portrait of Leda [Annest], India Adams: Comfort Me w/Apples, Kahli Bahlu, and 1986 Wanda Jackson today. Wow, surf you can twist to. Ending the End of Summer blues. May have to play this one more than once...every hour. And I thought the Champs were the cat's ass! papapapapapapaoommmoowomwmwommwoamooomwmwoaoaomow! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: prospect@tt.net (Chris Strouth) Subject: So, I am going to St.Louis Date: 16 Sep 1996 18:58:05 -0500 Hi, Been pretty busy lately and not a real active poster. but now I am going to St.Louis for MRMF this weekend and want to know if there is anything cool to do there. IE; record shoping , cool shops etc. and if you live there go to see Colfax Abbey on Thursday, if anyone has a suggestion as what to do in ST.Louis for 3 days please let me know. feel free to mail me , or to the list whatever happily yours Chris END OF TRANSMISSION... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Grant China Subject: Ultra-Lounge query (no flames involved) Date: 16 Sep 1996 15:11:59 -1000 Well, I just picked up volume 9 of the Ultra-Lounge series, "Cha Cha De Amor". Has anybody else noticed that the picture on the inside back cover is *almost* the exact same as the cover of George Shearing's "Latin Lace" LP but not quite the same? The background is identical but the girl in the mirror is different. Not just the face either, but her whole body is very slightly different. Does anybody know what the story is there? Obviously a lot of effort went into trying to match the picture on "Latin Lace" as closely as possible but why not just use the original cover? Aloha, Grant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chrysler Mighuel Stewart" Subject: Re: Combustible Edison: Solid Show Date: 16 Sep 1996 20:27:24 -0700 *Sniff* *Sniff* (Oh what the heck-) Sob Sob Soooob! Such Envy... You see, This weekend was my Birthday. I had two plans, both which were ruined... The first was to go to Seattle Saturday Night, to see the legendary Scope-O-Tones at the Pike Street Cinema, the second plan was to go see Combustable Edison play at the Crocodile "Cafe." (Tail wagging strongly at the mention of either- you'll see my metaphor in a minute.) After Much anticipation and research, I was told, bluntly, by a close friend, that the Pike Street Cinema had closed some time last year... (I respect your honesty, but it still hurts...) No more Scope-O-Tones for me... *Sniffle* Then, (Tail lowers, yet still timidly waving,) I thought that I'd be able to spend my birthday in this magnificent Crocodile "Cafe." I called and called, and had the time and address and price and everything- Then- THEN! (What Nerve!) They have the _gall_ to tell me that the Dive is 21 and over- card at the door! Ha! Some Cafe! So! I missed that as well. (Tail drops between legs.) Instead I just brought a bunch of pals to Archie McFee's (the NorthWest's bossest Outfitter of Popular Culture-) and went to Tower Records and scored Three cool Pizzicato Five CD's.... Small solace, since the total came to ¥5,600! Seven times what I would have had to pay to see Combustable Edison play, and of course, since we were in Seattle, what did it do?! Rain of course! Buckets and Sheets! So it was cold and wet and my fur got all matted... Grrr! I feel fortunate, however because I did get to see Combustable Edison play at Bumbershoot in Seattle not to weeks ago. It was great, mind you, but they were kind of hurried because they had to clear the stage for a "real" band: Mudhoney (Boooo!) And and Miss Lily Banquette seemed kind of ill or maybe just shy (although It was really cool to see her play drums, and of course, our own Brother Cleve was on keyboards!) I just knew that they were leaving out a great deal of numbers, and the show would be far improved at the Crocodile... (Another reason for me to dispise alcohol, although more for the political standpoint this time...) The weekend wasn't all a bust, however... My brother, Cuntundo bought the "Four Rooms" soundtrack, which is quite yummy, and my other brother, Cadaggio purchased a fine Les Baxter reissue! Sulk, sulk, Rev. Chrysler Mighuel Stewart pettit@cnw.com http://www.cnw.com/~pettit/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Kilmartin Subject: CD's and Moog Rock & Beatin' the Montenegro Horse... Date: 16 Sep 1996 23:34:27 -0400 At 04:37 PM 16/09/1996 -0400, you wrote: > >If this were chess, you'd be trading your queen for a knight, a 3-to-1 >losing proposition. Listen to "Moog Rock" again with volume (and separate >those speakers). The cheesiness of the jacket indicates a good record inside. Indeed. Gotta separate them speakers for ANY moog. I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the ULTRA-cool "moog Power" by Hugo Montenegro or some of HM's later early '70's cover tunes that seemed to be festooned with electronic arrangements yet... Stickin' my head in a closing door, Joe in TO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: Re: Tiki Tones live 4 Joe Date: 17 Sep 1996 00:55:09 -0400 to get 'em live would be tough but to order Tiki Tones and Huntington Cads CDs email their record co @ ShagLono thanks for the tip on Royal Jelly Orchestra I'll keep an ear out for 'em Otto # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: Re: exotica in Japan?? Date: 17 Sep 1996 00:55:12 -0400 I think there is a Trader Vic's there so if you've never been to Vic's you can pick up an original Mai Tai made by Japanese bartenders!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: Re: Ultra-Lounge query (no flames involved) Date: 17 Sep 1996 01:43:15 -0400 >>>Well, I just picked up volume 9 of the Ultra-Lounge series, "Cha Cha De Amor". Has anybody else noticed that the picture on the inside back cover is *almost* the exact same as the cover of George Shearing's "Latin Lace" LP but not quite the same? The background is identical but the girl in the mirror is different. Not just the face either, but her whole body is very slightly different. Does anybody know what the story is there? Obviously a lot of effort went into trying to match the picture on "Latin Lace" as closely as possible but why not just use the original cover? Aloha, Grant<< Well, I do know a bit of the story on this. There's a magazine of cool retro-smut called TEASE (featuring good girl art ala Petty and Vargas, and modern pin-ups etc. The last issue had a great centerfold of Poison Ivy of the Cramps at their own Tiki Bar). Anyway, they had an article and interview with the guy who was the art director for Capitol Records in the 50s and 60s when they shot all those gorgeous girl covers. What was his name? Jim Silkie, I think. He also painted good girl art (and quite well) and did a comic in that style called RASCALS IN PARADISE. In any event, he told about working with the various models (like Sandy Warner) and noted on the George Shearing cover you mentioned that they used one model for the back, and another model for the face in the mirror (cut and paste job). So the shot used on Ultra Lounge was probably the original photograph with the actual face of the model whose back only showed up on the album cover. --David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ccarlson@wgl.com Subject: Big Moog Date: 17 Sep 1996 07:32:39 -0400 More than one person wrote: >Indeed. Gotta separate them speakers for ANY moog. I don't want a rep as 'that guy who hates moog...what do we know about him, anyway??'. I like it fine, but I'm partial to stuff like 'The Happy Moog' where you want to get the microwave popcorn out (ever try Jiffy pop in a m-wave? Don't.) That's music written with the moog's ahhh... special characteristics in mind. And my speakers are seperated, baby. Wanna see my monster cable? Craig # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RogerScho@aol.com Subject: Re: electronic dance music for Joe Date: 17 Sep 1996 09:15:53 -0400 Hi Jill, UNDERGROUND RESISTANCE in this list ??&%?(=?%?? GREAT, Jill. Nation to Nation, World to World are f****ing good. Yeah I agree fully with you. Strange and exotic sounds you also can hear in current music; esp. drum machines, hear most of UK drum n' bass stuff like JACOBS OPTICAL STAIRWAY / 4 HERO (Reinforced) or LTJ BUKEM (Moving Shadow) or the exotic sounds of OVAL or BLUE BYTE (Milles Plateaux). There's definately a connection between these worlds: "New Electronic (Dance) Music" and the "Exotic sounds" of the older times. The people of Reinforced for example uses old analogue Moog etc. stuff to create these sounds and combine it with newest recording technique. So, WORLD to WORLD ... +++roger+++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) Subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: Compilations/Reissues Date: 17 Sep 1996 14:01:46 -0400 (EDT) >Well, Reprise doesn't have a lost Esquivel album in its vaults but RCA/BMG >is suspected to have the GREAT lost Esquivel album in its own vaults. >Is this story common knowledge by now? If not, perhaps Br. Cleve can give a >summary and news update. Yes, I can. According to Irwin, RCA has not even looked for it. (And BTW, Juan did no other recordings for Reprise. In fact, that album was only licensed by them. It almost never came out on CD because there was no paperwork on it anywhere, although the album's owner, Albums Inc, was finally tracked down). I met with Neely Plumb last week, who reiterates that "See It In Sound" is a masterpiece, that he and Juan worked on for a good year or so. Will RCA try to find it and release it? Who knows? There's been lots of talk here lately about reissuing complete albums on CD, but frankly, most record exec's in the U.S. are so caught up in the rock thing, I wouldn't hold my breath. Many industry types, bred on classic rock, see it as an annoying fad. Don't forget, it took Nirvana selling millions of records before the majors took modern rock seriously. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) Subject: Re: "Mah-Na Mah-Na" Date: 17 Sep 1996 14:01:08 -0400 (EDT) >Sorry, I was conversing with Lounge Laura about the Esquivel >cover of "Mah Na Mah Na" and I replied to the list. >Cleve? Any word on a domestic release of "The Great Lost Esquivel Single"? This is a late response, as I've been on tour for the last few weeks.... I can't go into a lot of details, but let's just say I hope that my compilation entitled "The Sights and Sounds of Esquivel!" will see the light of day at some time. There are a number of reasons that I can't go into in a public forum as to why it has not been released. It is a collection of live and studio Esquivel recordings from 1963-1977. This amazing gentleman's career has spanned 50 years now (his first recording was in 1945), and stylistcally he has covered a lot of ground. "Mah Na Mah Na" and his other seventies recordings feature no 'boinks' or steel guitars, but fuzz guitars and wah wah electric pianos and other sounds of the times. Hopefully, all of his music will be available in the coming years. (And PLEASE RCA/BMG, will you at least *look* for "See It In Sound"!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!! ) a disgruntled br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: New approach to marketing reissues (Labels TRY THIS!) Date: 17 Sep 1996 14:19:36 -0400 At 02:18 PM 9/16/96 -0400, you wrote: >>Am I wrong? Would not virtually EVERYONE on this list be inclined to promptly >>slap down $20 for a properly-done "Infinity In Sound Vols. 1&2" or "Fever & >>Smoke/Movin' & Groovin'" CD? > >Get real. I wouldn't trade the vinyl for those CDs AND $20. > >Tony "virtually smirtually" Wilds Sorry Tony but I would. Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: FRIENDS OF DEAN/MINSTRELS Date: 17 Sep 1996 14:40:41 -0400 OK! Rockers and loungers unite with me for my concert review of FRIENDS OF DEAN MARTINEZ and THE MINSTRELS. I had no idea what to expect from the Minstrels-a 60s power-pop band, mostly from Canada. I'll ad, too, that I am mostly not impressed and mostly depressed by many bands I see. These wwwaaayyy-out Beatle/Gerry and the Pacemakers/invasion-ey band knocked me out not only with those aforementioned influences, but, imagine my shock and extreme pleasure, that they not only did Brigette/Serge's HARLEY DAVIDSON(in perfect Quebec French!), but also Taboo...ahhhhaahhhh....I lost my mind! So, it was 60s pop and exotica combined....too much, baby! FRIENDS OF DEAN MARTINEZ were absolutely SUBLIME! They opened up, steele guitar wailing, with SUMMERTIME, and ran thru other hits, as well as what I assume were many cool, western-Enio-desert originals...Dean Martin's(natch)"Sway With Me,"(rat-packers, is that the right title?) and...uh...the black-and-tan stained memories are interfering at this point...uh...some song Jack Jones popularized...oh, and they did MISTY, too. I got misty just hearin' it! So, it was a great night of lounge in a town that sorely needs it but probably wouldn't appreciate or get too much of it anyway, good ol' Tampa, Florida. Cheers to the drummer of the Minstrels, too, who wore a turtle-neck for his more mod band, and who filled in for FRIENDS OF wearing a Hawaiian shirt that might even make Jack Diamond a tad envious! And thanks to the gals who told me this would be a good show! Lounge Laura "it's just my nature to do weird stuff..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) Subject: Re: Ultra-Lounge query (no flames involved) Date: 17 Sep 1996 16:31:16 -0400 (EDT) >> Has anybody else noticed that the picture on the inside back cover >>is *almost* the exact same as the cover of George Shearing's "Latin Lace" LP >>but not quite the same? >on the George Shearing cover you mentioned that they used one model for >the back, and >another model for the face in the mirror (cut and paste job). So the shot >used on Ultra Lounge was probably the original photograph with the actual >face of the model whose back only showed up on the album cover. That's correct. The face was changed because a Capitol exec thought that it was "too ethnic", so a white womans face was inserted. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Grant China Subject: RE: Ultra-Lounge query (no flames involved) Date: 17 Sep 1996 10:49:39 -1000 At 10:39 AM 9/17/96 -1000, br cleve wrote: >>> Has anybody else noticed that the picture on the inside back cover >>>is *almost* the exact same as the cover of George Shearing's "Latin Lace" LP >>>but not quite the same? > >>on the George Shearing cover you mentioned that they used one model for >>the back, and >>another model for the face in the mirror (cut and paste job). So the shot >>used on Ultra Lounge was probably the original photograph with the actual >>face of the model whose back only showed up on the album cover. > >That's correct. The face was changed because a Capitol exec thought that it >was "too ethnic", so a white womans face was inserted. Yes but as I mentioned in the initial post, it's not just the face that's changed. The back of the model in "Cha-Cha De Amor" is also different than the back of the model on "Latin Lace" (or possibly it's the same model but her position is slightly different). Different picture from the same photo shoot, maybe? Aloha, Grant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: FRIENDS OF Sway Sera Date: 17 Sep 1996 17:52:06 -0400 >Dean Martin's(natch)"Sway With Me,"(rat-packers, is that the right title?) It's called alternately "Sway" or "Quien Sera" and is hardly Dean Martin's. If a cover of it could belong to anyone, it would have to be Xavier Cugat, who makes it the definitive rumba (if not Latin tune, period) on The Best of Cugat. Ray Anthony does a "sublime" tongue-in-cheek version if you must have male vocals. Then there are Rosie Clooney and Prado together, an icky Baxter version, and bezillions more. Tony "sway away from rats" Wilds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Ultra-Lounge whitewash Date: 17 Sep 1996 18:01:19 -0400 >That's correct. The face was changed because a Capitol exec thought that it >was "too ethnic", so a white womans face was inserted. > >br cleve Just as I was about to go postal, I considered that the exec might have been making the packaging more honest: a little more whitebread to match the music. Tony "olive is beautiful" Wilds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: guinto@id.ucsb.edu (Marie Guinto) Subject: Re: Ultra-Lounge query (no flames involved) Date: 17 Sep 1996 15:37:32 -0800 >That's correct. The face was changed because a Capitol exec thought that it >was "too ethnic", so a white womans face was inserted. Ooohh that ruffles my feathers, unfortunatly I'm sure there were a lot of "these" types of decisions that went on or are going on. We are either working for, or consumers of "the man." Marie guinto@id.ucsb.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: " / dave / " Subject: Re: FRIENDS OF Sway Sera Date: 17 Sep 1996 17:39:44 -0500 (CDT) Tony "sway away from rats" Wilds writes: > Ray Anthony does a "sublime" tongue-in-cheek version if you must have male > vocals. Then there are Rosie Clooney and Prado together, an icky Baxter > version, and bezillions more. Hmm... Baxter's "Sway" isn't *that* bad, is it? I kind of like it. Besides, the Carribbean Moonlight LP has that lushy-gushy version of Taboo as well. I do like that quite a bit. dave /\\ \\ \\ \\ / \\ \\ \\ \\ the arouet label / \\ \\ \\ \\ ZING! ZING! -----------// // // //------> arouet@winternet.com \ // // // // \// // // // fnast! image # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: " / dave / " Subject: Re: Ultra-Lounge query (no flames involved) Date: 17 Sep 1996 18:11:31 -0500 (CDT) br cleve wrote: > >That's correct. The face was changed because a Capitol exec thought that it > >was "too ethnic", so a white womans face was inserted. ..which is deplorable, and particularly predominant in the "exotica" genre, no? and Grant added: > Yes but as I mentioned in the initial post, it's not just the face that's > changed. The back of the model in "Cha-Cha De Amor" is also different than > the back of the model on "Latin Lace" (or possibly it's the same model but > her position is slightly different). Different picture from the same photo > shoot, maybe? Naturally this could be the case. I still have yet to get a look at the Ultra Lounge CD that's being discussed, but my first question would be: How could anyone possibly mistake that back for another? I mean, really. Surely someone who's got both photos in front of them can tell if it's the same back. (But like I said, I haven't seen the CD.) At any rate, I started writing a message about this last night but my computer locked up halfway through the first paragraph. When I finally got things up and running again, I dropped a half-melted ice cream sandwich in my lap and then the phone started ringing off the hook as I was about to go on-line. No doubt the successful completion of this post will result in my being struck dead by a wayward bus on the way home from work tonight, but so be it. The word must get out. The force be with me. What I was going to say last night was that the interview with Silke (sp?), the Capital Art Dept. guy in the 50s & 60s, originally appeared in Preston Peek's article on cheesecake cover art in a recent issue of Goldmine. The interesting thing about it is that Silke said that the photos featuring the original model - before the (in his words) "Caucasian" face was inserted in the mirror - have all been "lost." If it is in fact the same photo, then Capital must have recently unearthed it somewhere. And if it is the original photo, who is it? Anyone we know? Meanwhile, hurricanes rage, floods flood, Bosnians self-determine, and the Market moves ever closer to a crash. Now what were we talking about? (Sorry - I've been hanging around the virtual newsstand too much lately.) dave /\\ \\ \\ \\ / \\ \\ \\ \\ the arouet label / \\ \\ \\ \\ ZING! ZING! -----------// // // //------> arouet@winternet.com \ // // // // \// // // // fnast! image # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Desmond K. Hill" Subject: re. misanthropy 511 playlist(s) Date: 17 Sep 1996 18:26:09 +0000 whilst i enjoy reading playlists, there is so little antique exotica in this one, i believe misanthropy 511 is taking up space better served with the discussions otherwise expressed within the exotica m-list.. can't we keep exotica exotic? des # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Ledebur Subject: Back from vacation, here's my haul! Date: 17 Sep 1996 20:58:35 -0400 Skip this message if this sort of gloating gets on your nerves, but = since=20 I enjoy reading Robbie's and others reports, I'm gonna take a turn. This = is=20 a small sampling of what I came back from vacation with. Most of these=20 were thrifted in Maryland and Virginia. I haven't had time to clean and = listen=20 to 'em yet, but there are some obvious winners here. The T-Bones -- No Matter What Shape (Your Stomach's In) -- Liberty (from the Alka Seltzer commercial) Doc Severinson -- High Wide & Wonderful -- Command (also got "Fever!," "The Great Arrival" and "Live!") Tammy Faye Baker -- self-titled (I think, no sleeve) -- PTL Club (her voice is scary, yet in a compelling sort of way) Maurice Larcange -- ? (no sleeve - billed as Maurice Larcange -- = Accordion=20 with The Roland Shaw Orchestra & Chorus) -- London Phase 4 Henry Mancini -- Charade soundtrack -- RCA Victor (I *hated* Cary Grant in this flick!) Percy Faith -- Black Magic Woman -- Columbia (also scored The Percy Faith Strings' "The Beatles Album) 101 Strings -- Bridge Over Troubled Water/Million Seller Hits -- Alshire (2 LP gatefold set - the first record was arranged & conducted by = Nelson Riddle, the second by Les Baxter) Dora Hall -- Presents 12 Nationwide Chart Toppers -- Rainbeau (if the sleeve is any indication, this one may wind up somewhere in = Mrs. Miller territory) Jack La Forge, his Piano & Orchestra -- Hit the Road, Jack -- Audio = Fidelity (he's an "Intercontinental Commuter" and "an eminent member of the Jet = Set" according to the liner notes) Tony Mottola -- Close to You -- Project 3 ("Tony Mottola's guitar is probablyu the best tranquilizer you can buy = today.") Joe Harnell -- The Rhythm & the Fire -- Kapp (also "Fly Me to the Moon & the Bossa Nova Pops" which the station = library already had, but it's nice to get my own copy) Amormio Cillan, Jr. -- Dyna's Original -- Dyna ("The Philippines' Top Organist") Maxwell Davis -- Theme from Batman -- Crown (includes tracks like "Irving Evil" and "Creepy Crawlers." Is this the = same guy recently discussed on this list with a Batman record on Atco?) Jackie Gleason -- Presents Lush Musical Interludes for That Moment -- = Capitol (also "Oooo!") Enoch Light & His Orchestra -- Rome 35/MM -- Command Living Strings -- Play Songs of the Swingin' Sixties -- RCA/Camden Frank Chacksfield -- Love Letters in the Sand -- London (who cares how it sounds... it's got my current fave album cover -- a = blonde lying on the beach wearing a Bettie Page leopard-skin bikini with = the cutest smile and raised eyebrow.) For you Spinal Tap fans I found an RCA release by Four Jacks & a Jill, = "Fables," from 1968. Who knew? I also scored my first Heino LP -- also my second and third -- all still = shrink- wrapped. Among them, "Great Hits No.6" with that great German shepard=20 cover as seen in Incredibly Strange Music Vol.2. Lastly, "Put on a Handicap -- Developing Positive Attitudes Toward the=20 Handicapped." Should fit nicely on a tape with the Kids of Widney High. Boston-area Exotica Listers should tune in next Wed. (25th) for a show=20 comprised entirely of new records. On tomorrow's (18th) show (barring any hitches) we should have our long- anticipated guest DJ, Crime Jazz fiend and all-around great guy J.J. = Rassler. Peter (who's not saying one way or the other what he thinks of = compilations). --- MUSIC FOR BETTER LIVING hosted by Valerie & Peter Wednesdays 6-7pm on WZBC 90.3 Newton/Boston # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: springer@nyc.pipeline.com (D. Scott Springer) Subject: Cover art shenanigans Date: 18 Sep 1996 01:03:56 GMT >----- Forwarded message (" / dave / " ) -----< br cleve wrote: > >That's correct. The face was changed because a Capitol exec thought that it > >was "too ethnic", so a white womans face was inserted. ....which is deplorable, and particularly predominant in the "exotica" genre, no? I think one of the prime examples of this phenomenon is the totally bizarre cover of Baxter's "African Jazz," which features what appears to be an white woman in what one can only describe as "whiteface." She is wearing "African Tribal Garb." I would give a lot to know what the hell was going on in the heads of those Capitol execs back then! Perhaps this one was the result of a few too many in the Tower of Stars commissary. Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: riviera@tiac.net Subject: Makers of Smooth Music Date: 17 Sep 1996 21:08:49 -0400 (EDT) Greetings all after a 3 week absence... Any one interested in "Song/Poem Music" a la "Beat of the Traps"/"Makers of Smooth Music" might want to check out the Website of The Association for the Preservation of Song/Poem Music (of which I am a proud,card carryin' member!). http://www.channel1.com/users/fxxm/intro.htm Apollo Up! Riviera # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: FRIENDS OF Sway Sera Date: 17 Sep 1996 21:04:47 -0500 Tony Wilds wrote: > Ray Anthony does a "sublime" tongue-in-cheek version if you must > have male vocals. Then there are Rosie Clooney and Prado together, > an icky Baxter version, and bezillions more. Been playing Prado's Twist Goes Latin which all sounds like a Fellini movie (yum yum)! There's a twist version of Sway that I've just been rocking to. Too much fun? kevin king xanadu@radix.net http://www.radix.net/~xanadu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: Ultra-Lounge query (no flames involved) Date: 17 Sep 1996 22:08:45 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-16 22:45:52 EDT, you write: >Well, I just picked up volume 9 of the Ultra-Lounge series, "Cha Cha De >Amor". Has anybody else noticed that the picture on the inside back cover >is *almost* the exact same as the cover of George Shearing's "Latin Lace" LP >but not quite the same? The background is identical but the girl in the >mirror is different. Not just the face either, but her whole body is very >slightly different. > >Does anybody know what the story is there? Obviously a lot of effort went >into trying to match the picture on "Latin Lace" as closely as possible but >why not just use the original cover? > >Aloha, >Grant Capitol are lucky to have kept on file photos not used from album cover sessions to spice up the artwork of the Ultra Lounge series. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re: Back from vacation, here's my haul! Date: 17 Sep 1996 22:20:37 -0400 <<>> I wish you had been around BEFORE I said anything. :) Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pea Hicks Subject: Hello! Greetings! Date: 17 Sep 1996 20:25:13 -0700 Howdy- My name's Pea Hicks, I'm in San Diego, and I'm new here. Robbie Baldock suggested I join. Here's a couple questions: Anyone got a definitive Claudine Longet discog? Does anybody else have any records by Danny Guglielmi and Dena? I've got one called "Adventure In Sound" that just blows my mind away. They were a wanna-be Les Paul and Mary Ford but in my opinion they're much better because Danny's multi-tracking technique was not as advanced (resulting in a real distant, haunting sound) and Dena's vocals are way up front and spooky/sexy/in-your-face sounding. Just curious if anyone has any of their other records and if they're as good as this one. Visit my Optigan Homepage, realm of the Virtual Optigan!! http://pegasus.adnc.com/~websites/experiment/optigan/intro.html Pea Hicks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Rhodewalt Subject: Re: Back from vacation, here's my haul! Date: 17 Sep 1996 20:56:03 -0700 Peter Ledebur wrote: > > Skip this message if this sort of gloating gets on your nerves, but since > I enjoy reading Robbie's and others reports, I'm gonna take a turn. This is > a small sampling of what I came back from vacation with. Most of these > were thrifted in Maryland and Virginia. I haven't had time to clean and listen > to 'em yet, but there are some obvious winners here. > > The T-Bones -- No Matter What Shape (Your Stomach's In) -- Liberty > (from the Alka Seltzer commercial) > These guys kicked ass. I think it was Tommy Tedesco, Hal Blaine and all those other session chameleons from '60s L.A. This version of "No Matter What..." is much better than the A-S commercial. There are at least two more albums. Bruce Rhodewalt kahuna@tikipub.com _____________________________________________________________ Creative Internet http://www.tikipub.com * 888-TIKIPUB solutions from... 78-365 Highway 111, Suite 241 * Tiki Publishing * La Quinta, CA 92253 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: Combustible San Fran review Date: 18 Sep 1996 00:15:50 -0400 Maybe it was because The Millionaire welcomed me to the city (from the stage between the first and second song in frontabout 800 other people) or maybe because we joined them at their hotel later for drinks but this was the first time I'd seen 'em out of LA (saw them 4 times there) and I thought this was a REALLY great show. Although the set was basically a greatest hits - I think there was only one new tune - the band played it all so well and it's actually fun to experience their music live. Lili was in rare form - her voice was taut and I noticed she's "refined" (for lack of a better phrase) her stage presence. She very relaxed and in control and was smiling often and just looking rather demure. The Millionaire was in fine form introducing each song with some witty little dialogue and drinking a yet unnamed cocktail no doubt concocted by Brother Cleve. I've already forgotten the recipe but it included yellow chartruese (?? is that really a liqour Cleve?) I wasn't the only one who enjoyed the show there was plenty of dancing despite wall to wall tables plenty of howling and clapping as well Emily from Seattle made sure to make it part of her stay here and along with her 3-d shootin brother Hugh and Mr Lucky and entourage we chatted with Combutible by the pool and Voodoo Lounge of their hotel til 3 in the morn! The band has one more date on this tour then after a break goes to Japan and Australia CE recorded "Miniskirt" by Esquivel and used recordings of the E-man doing the vocal parts Cleve has many projects up his sleeve including a visit to Mexico with The Millionaire to stay with Esquivel with more reissues and collaborations to follow Cleve also has penned liner notes for 2 Ryko reissues as well as written recent stories for Cheeseball, Lounge and my own zine Tiki News. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Jerry Cole/Kole Date: 17 Sep 1996 21:54:24 +0000 Jerry Cole or sometimes Kole was a session studio guitar player who hit it big and git a record deal with Capitol for a couple of rekkids (I think) He has a few rekkods also on the Crown and the sound is all instro guitar studio band screwin' around. Mostly R & B based with some "surf" influence He also has another rekkid on Crown that is something like Hot Rod Alley which is basically "surf-like" R & B tunes with Hot Rod sounds. jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Ultra Lounge Vol 9 Date: 17 Sep 1996 21:57:16 +0000 >Well, I just picked up volume 9 of the Ultra-Lounge series, "Cha Cha De >Amor". Has anybody else noticed that the picture on the inside back cover >is *almost* the exact same as the cover of George Shearing's "Latin Lace" LP >but not quite the same ? Grant, Do you like the music or what ? ;)) Is it worth the 15 bucks you plopped down ? Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susanne Stratford Subject: Re: Combustible San Fran review Date: 18 Sep 1996 15:38:10 +1000 (EST) On Wed, 18 Sep 1996 Ottotemp@aol.com wrote: > The band has one more date on this tour then after a break goes to Japan and > Australia Oh woooooow!!! They're comin' down-under!!!!! When when when? Miss Suze, Lizard Lodge. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jbr10