From: "J. Diamond" Subject: (exotica) Jacques Dudon Date: 25 Jul 1997 17:53:57 -0700 Hello, Does anyone know if there are any records by Jacques Dudon He was on that Ellipsis Arts...Gravichords, Pyrophones, etc CD compilation. I think he has an album of Water Music... Thanks -Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ccarlson@valsmtp.riag.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Music For The Head Date: 01 Jul 1997 07:46:20 -0400 Ashley wrote: I think the example of the Beatles is excellent, in fact I was thinking the very same thing regarding those early Beatles albums with the instruments on one side and the vocals on the other when writing my post (boy what were the EMI engineers thinking back then????) According to "Shout!" by Phillip Norman and the book about the Beatles recording sessions (the name escapes me at the moment), George Martin and Geof Emerick labored mightily over the mono mixes of the Beatles tunes. The stereo mixes were usually given to the second engineer as these were not considered the primary focus. Most kids at the time ('63-'65) did not have stereos, but had record players. I remember that there was a small tempest when the albums were being re-issued on CD in the '80s; purists wanted the original mono mixes, but I don't think they got them. Craig # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ccarlson@valsmtp.riag.com Subject: (exotica) Lounge Attack / What I Got Date: 01 Jul 1997 08:23:05 -0400 Is it just me, or do all of these lounge attacks have a faint aroma of sour grapes about them? I think they're just jealous. From the $2 bin at he local anitquarium this weekend: Edmundo Ros - Bongos From the South (Phase 4). Does that mean Dorset? Ever notice how the British players make up in enthusiasm what they lack in salsa? Katie Lee - Songs of Couch etc. You know the one; I've been looking for this one since day one, now I've found two in as many weeks...It really is clever, though. Note about the label: it's not really Commentary Records, it's "Maelstrom Presents the Commentary Album..." the address is Boston, Mass; Kenmore Station. Interesting. John Fahey - Requia (Vanguard, 1967) Fingerpicker's delight on side one, exotica curio on side two, with all kinds of "samples" of old '78s, train noises, and plenty other weirdness on the "Requium for Molly", parts 1-4. Tricky, indeed. Tito Puente - Mucho Cha Cha (RCA, 1959) The real thing from Tito. Recommended. Also RCA cover blurbs at their finest. This LP is Living Stereo with a Miracle Surface in New Orthophonic on the Wide World Series. Late nights in the marketing dept. Roger Price - Roger and Over (A.A. Records, 1960) Silliness from Roger. Jazz was invented in Vermont, stereo check outs, etc. I love this guy. Anybody have a copy of "What Not to Name the Baby" or Grump Magazine (which changed my life as much as Mad did)? John Barry - The Knack (and How to Get It) (U.A., 1965) Classy soundtrack to a fun movie about swinging and attempted swinging in London ca. 1965. Mike Curb - Skaterdater (Mira, 1966) Soundtrack to an Academy Award nominated short from 1965. This was Davie Allan's first soundtrack and also featured Al Casey, Larry Knetchel, Joe Osborne and Jim Horn. Thanks to m. ace for the info on this one. The fuzz is on there. Ahmad Jamal - Macanudo (Argo, 1963) Exotica from the jazz pianist. Great cover, excellent Carribean-flavored jazz. Arranged and conducted by Richard Evans. Who he? Chet Atkins - Chet Atkins in Hollywood (RCA, 1959) This is my favorite C.A. album so far; unbelievable tone (how did he get that sustain and still sound so clean and warm?), string section that doesn't suck and nice choice of material. Also non-exotica: The Byrds' "Dr. Byrds and Mr. Hyde" and "Sweetheart of the Rodeo". I think the Columbia "360 Stereo" albums are second only to RCA Living Stereo in sound quality. These two just knocked my ears off. Definition of a music lover: He hears a girl singing in the shower and puts his ear to the keyhole. Craig # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rcb@easynet.co.uk Subject: Re: (exotica) FORD PUMA campaign Date: 01 Jul 1997 13:30:51 +0000 Richard Jay wrote: >Here in the UK (and I suspect, elsewhere) there's a new TV campaign >for the rather groovy looking Ford Puma; driven by none other than >Steve McQueen (through the magic of TV !) It's accompanied by even >groovier music which is obviously authentic 70's film music with >it's use of bass flute, jazz guitar, brass stabs, etc. I suspect >it's from some well-known film by McQueen that's before my time, but >if someone could let me know what it is I'd appreciate it. The whole ad is a spoof on the opening sequence of "Bullitt" with (fantastic) music by Lalo Schifrin. Although the soundtrack was originally issued on LP it's yet to appear on CD - though I know the opening theme appears on a couple of Schifrin comps. I think Footlight records (www.footlight.com) have a copy of the LP - for $40! I suspect that, as with many current ads, the music will be issued as a CD-single soon! Robbie Spaced Out - the Enoch Light WWW Site ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~rcb/light/ ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rcb@easynet.co.uk Subject: (exotica) Barbarella soundtrack Date: 01 Jul 1997 13:30:52 +0000 Well, Barbarella was on British TV last night - the first time I'd actually watched it all the way through: what a movie! One nagging question - those whacked out guitar effects on the soundtrack MUST be Vinnie Bell, mustn't they? I have the soundtrack LP: plenty of kooky sleeve notes but there's no listing of who actually played the music! Does anyone know what the line-up was? Robbie Pygar: "I've regained the will to fly!" Spaced Out - the Enoch Light WWW Site ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~rcb/light/ ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rcb@easynet.co.uk Subject: (exotica) More Theremania Date: 01 Jul 1997 13:30:51 +0000 While watching footage of last weekend's Glastonbury Festival I was pleasantly surprised to see a brief appearance by two members of the "Radio Science Orchestra" which seems to consist of 3-4(!) theremins and other electronic instrumentation (I think there are 10 players altogether). The two band members who were being interviewed were Theremin's great-niece Lydia something-or-other and Bruce Woolley. Does anyone know anything about this "orchestra" and whether they've released anything? Robbie ** Spaced Out - the Enoch Light WWW Site ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~rcb/light/ ** ** ** Space Safari - To Hi-Fidelity and Beyond! ** ** ** ** ** http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~rcb/space/ ** ** ** ** ** Next Night: 20 July 1997 - Filmhouse Bar, Edinburgh ** ** ** ** also broadcasting locally Sundays 6-8 on * ** ** ** ** ** ** T in the Park Radio 105.4 FM ** ** ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: (exotica) FORD PUMA campaign Date: 01 Jul 1997 07:55:43 -0600 >The whole ad is a spoof on the opening sequence of "Bullitt" with >(fantastic) music by Lalo Schifrin. Although the soundtrack was >originally issued on LP it's yet to appear on CD - though I know the >opening theme appears on a couple of Schifrin comps. I think >Footlight records (www.footlight.com) have a copy of the LP - for >$40! I still haven't seen this commerical, but there is a CD of Bullitt. Japanese import. It is available at my local record store. (Fopp, Robbie). It is worth the money. "Bullitt" is one of my fave records. Jill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Product Music Date: 01 Jul 1997 10:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Found something interesting-----a CD with direct from vinyl sources called "Product Music"--Subtitle: "Industrial Show Tunes In Praise Of The Products We Like". Stuff like "Standin' On The Corner Watchin' All The Fords Go By", "Look At This Tub", "Dance The Slurp", "Madison Avenue Tango", "Gentle On My Mind" (Mary Kay Cosmetics), "Hooray For Human Engineering" (Clark Equipment).......Its on Honest Abe Disc out of Japan.....Jimmy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: (exotica) 4th Surfmen LP found Date: 01 Jul 1997 10:56:59 -0400 It's hardly worth paying attention to the endless marketing ploys of budget labels, but when it comes to the #1 Denny-knockoff group --the Surfmen (Alvino Rey, Jack Costanzo, Irv Cottler, etc.)-- with occasional abstract exotic female vocals... "Aloha from a Hawaiian Paradise" on Oscar Records (Burbank, CA) is largely a reissue of tunes mostly from the second LP, "The Surfmen in Hawaii" (Somerset, reissued as "Colorful Romantic Hawaii" on Alshire). Fortunately, they are all the exotic tunes plus a few of the Hawaiian. Three new tunes are mush (strings), so they're not the original jazz group. The band is credited as the "Surf Serenaders" this time, as opposed to the Surfmen or South Sea Serenaders. Anyone with a serious interest in exotica and other ethnic (and whitebread) pop on the cheap should check out Wilds Sounds (URL below, in sig) now. About 1/3 of all records will be removed and sold at shows (where buying is hype-free). Coming soon: over 150 sealed records on a special page. wilds The Wilds Scene -> http://www.charm.net/~wilds/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: riviera@tiac.net Subject: (exotica) Lounge Attacks! Date: 01 Jul 1997 11:05:07 -0400 (EDT) For Michelle's benefit and that of anybody on the list who especially enjoys ranting...here's my two cents. Ah...the backlash.I've been wondering when it would arrive full-force. I've always been bemused by the shrill,virulent,very personal and, yes, knee-jerk nature of the criticisms leveled at the world of smooth sounds. As far as I'm concerned, the appeal of "Lounge" music (or whatever you want to call it..I generally prefer vaguer terms like "Mood Music") is that it offers a sonically and harmonically richer alternative to the pop music mainstream,and an aesthetic that embraces strangeness,beauty,experience,maturity,skill and other life-enhancing qualities. I don't consider those qualities to be either "retro" or reactionary,politically or otherwise. Mood Music is occasionally criticised for not appearing to be "rebellious",thus implying that it is reaffirming the status quo.In my opinion, that's a total canard."Rebellion" is reactive; the aesthetic to which I subscribe is creative.It in fact stands in fundamental and profound opposition to the status quo. It also has nothing to do with testoterone-fueled,macho bluster.Just look to the pop charts if that's what you want.In fact, I've found that there's an almost disproportionate amount of female enthusiasm for the sounds and styles that I and the others on this list enjoy. Of course,there's some validity to the criticism, if you're only talking about (a segment of) the audience;but blaming an art form for it's audience is specious logic.The macho white male archetype that was profiled in the LA Weekly article are just the kind of folks who would kick my ass if they saw me walking down the street.I'll admit to occasionally looking out at my own audience in complete dismay.I'm sure anyone on this list knows what I'm talking about. Of course, an "artist" finding their audience filled with characters who stand for everything from which they're trying to liberate themselves is not a new developement;look at what it did to Kurt Cobain. Finally, as for the allegation that the whole "movement" is a media fabrication...well, that's just ridiculous. Of course, it's the media's job, or at least it's tendency, to pounce on new cultural developements and flog them to death. You gotta sell magazines/ad time/records/running shoes/soft drinks! All I can say is that when Combustible Edison first started playing,several years before a single magazine article was printed or Easy Listening record was reissued,our shows were consistently sold-out.Obviously, there were a lot of people out there who found our kind of music and attitude refreshing, without the media having dictated it to them. OK...rant over. In Jessica Cameron's words "Thanks for the space". Thee Millionaire # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brian@headspace.com (Brian Salter) Subject: Re: (exotica) More Theremania Date: 01 Jul 1997 14:44:02 -0000 Robbie- Here's some info on the Radio Science Orchestra; turns out they are friends with Thomas Dolby (who I work for)... ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Received: 07/01 2:06 PM Yes, I know a bit about them. Bruce Woolley was the singer in the first pro band I was ever in, and Matthew Seligman (a co-founder of RSO) is one of my best friends, and played bass on my 2nd and 4th albums. Bruce plays very good Theramin. They do a vocal version of Chopin's prelude in Em. They also got to play live at the London UFO Society's 40th anniversary where there was a screening of the Alien Autopsy footage. I have a CD of theirs, I'll try to bring it in. -- Thomas Dolby CEO, Headspace Inc. -- SUN HAS LICENSED HEADSPACE TECHNOLOGY FOR JAVA More info and free demo available at: ....The Web Comes Alive with Music. -- ----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Brian Salter brian@headspace.com / bsalter@slip.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: (exotica) More Theremania Date: 01 Jul 1997 16:17:49 -0600 (MDT) > Yes, I know a bit about them. Bruce Woolley was the singer in the first > pro band I was ever in, and Matthew Seligman (a co-founder of RSO) is > one of my best friends, and played bass on my 2nd and 4th albums... By the kind of coincidence that seems to happen every other day around here, Woolley also happened to provide backing vox and cowrite a couple of tracks on the CD I have in the player right now, namely "Adventures In Modern Recording" by The Buggles. Woolley is a longtime cohort of Buggle/megapop producer Trevor Horn and turns up with some regularity on albums produced by TCH. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cscheffy@kinglet.Berkeley.EDU (Clark Scheffy) Subject: (exotica) theremin (shameless plug) Date: 01 Jul 1997 17:13:25 PDT please all, file this in the shameless plug catagory if you wish, but my group, Malacoda, is releasing a CD next month on World Domination Recordings and I play theremin on two tracks. Just couldn't resist. . . Clark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Reading Subject: (exotica) Re: Music For The Head Date: 01 Jul 1997 18:24:33 -0700 >I think the example of the Beatles is excellent, in fact I was thinking the >very same thing regarding those early Beatles albums with the instruments on >one side and the vocals on the other when writing my post (boy what were the >EMI engineers thinking back then????) Actually, they weren't thinking stereo at all, especially on the first two LP's (somewhat true for #'s 3 & 4 also). Back in '62 and '63, stereo rock albums were still the exception. The mono mixes were the ones supervised by George Martin, God only knows who did the stereo mixes; they are really just "two channel mono." I think the mono's on the early Beatles albums are much preferable to the stereo. There are some exotica albums I prefer to hear in mono for the same reason. The ping-pong effects are cool sometimes, but occasionally they can be distracting. Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) FORD PUMA campaign Date: 02 Jul 1997 07:51:17 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-01 08:37:08 EDT, rcb@easynet.co.uk writes: >The whole ad is a spoof on the opening sequence of "Bullitt" with >(fantastic) music by Lalo Schifrin. Although the soundtrack was >originally issued on LP it's yet to appear on CD - though I know the >opening theme appears on a couple of Schifrin comps. I think >Footlight records (www.footlight.com) have a copy of the LP - for >$40! > >I suspect that, as with many current ads, the music will be issued as >a CD-single soon! Actually Bullit is available as a Japanese CD> Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) Music For The Head (Cases?) Date: 02 Jul 1997 07:55:15 -0400 I have oftentimes wondered if the extreme Stereo of some records was also partially due to consumer outcry at the time. There are some early stereo records by the Coasters, which are mixed in a fairly "modern" way(unless Atlantic re-did them for the reissue I heard), yet what comes after is the old bass-and-drums-in-China-guitar-and-vocals-in-New-York effect. I have a vision of an audiophile in the 60's slamming down a record at his local store: Customer: This record isn't stereo! Merchant: Yes, it is, sir. Customer: So you say. I want the rhythm section over here and the vocals are guitar over here. THAT'S stereo! Merchant: There's no place like home! OK, so I stole an ending from a movie; I'm not a playwright. The next scenario I see is merchants complaining to record companies and the companies issuing other records with extreme separation. I was merely a concept on a drafting table at the time, so I have no historical perspective on this. Also, while we are on the subject, what made a recording "High Fidelity"? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Greenberg" Subject: (exotica) a frightening new find Date: 02 Jul 1997 13:58:50 -0500 I recently found a sealed copy of a 12" single 45 rpm stereo record from 1976 by Lalo Schifrin which is a "Disco Mix" of (side 1) Jaws and (side 2) Flamingo and Quiet Village (yes, Baxter goes disco!). Apparently these tracks are from an lp entitled Black Widow. Is anyone familiar with this one? thanks, Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clean@bitstream.net Subject: (exotica) URL change Date: 02 Jul 1997 16:17:51 -0600 just a note to inform that... King Kini's CLUB VELVET website is now located at: http://www.tamboo.com please update all links and bookmarks! BTW, for those on the exotica list who haven't visited in a while (or ever) the "Selections from the Collection" area now features almost 80 LP covers for your viewing pleasure with a handy index. some are rare some are not, all seemed worth scanning at one time or another. enjoy! ...any requests? also... The Cocktail Nation is at: http://www.tamboo.com/loungelinks.html The Exotic World of Les Baxter: http://www.tamboo.com/BaxHome.html - King Kini visit... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ King Kini's C L U B V E L V E T http://www.tamboo.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vik Trola Subject: (exotica) Robert Mitchum Date: 02 Jul 1997 17:37:27 -0500 geez...a whole day has gone by and nary a mention of the passing of Robert Mitchum. (Lounge Laura's presence is missed...) for those who may not have caught the news, he passed away yesterday at the age of 79. any interested in a little tribute can stop by the Scamp site and check out a little audio and a few words from Scamp CEO A.W. Scamp Mitchum page: http://www.scamp-records.com/mitchum/ One less tough guy in the world, Vik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JPM Subject: Re: (exotica) Robert Mitchum Date: 02 Jul 1997 21:49:02 +0000 He made on the front cover of the NY POST (or was it the Daily News). Anyway it was a full cover with a great picture. -- Jason....... JPM The Pygmy Taxi Corp http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ Vocod'o'rama (Please update your links to the one below) http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocoders.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Robert Mitchum Date: 02 Jul 1997 19:43:50 -0700 (PDT) At 09:49 PM 7/2/97 +0000, Jason wrote: >He made on the front cover of the NY POST (or was it the Daily News). >Anyway it was a full cover with a great picture. Of course, we all know of his great calypso album, so he definitely is on topic. And, today, another great one died: Jimmy Stewart. Was his voice ever featured on a phonograph record? Byron Caloz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kpundit@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Robert Mitchum Date: 02 Jul 1997 23:17:17 -0400 (EDT) Well, there goes another one. I have always regretted that he wasn't given more good film noir roles in the late 40's - early 50's, when to me, he was in his prime. The few he did were outstanding &, I think, along with possibly Humphrey Bogart, he could have been the quintissential Raymond Chandler Philip Marlowe character. I think Hollywood sort of sloshed their way thru Raymond Chandler as it is (I mean, give me a break, Dick Powell !!) &, when Mitchum finally did "The Big Sleep", he was maybe even a bit too "world weary" for my taste. "Night of the Hunter" & the original "Cape Fear" were incredible & he was an amazing actor who should be remembered for a lot more than some TV mini-series. I spend a lot of time in Bridgeport, California, the small town that is a good part of "Out of the Past" & he & that film are very much alive there & part of the feeling of the place for me. And, I even think his calypso album isn't that bad! I mean, the voice isn't what you'd expect to come out of a Robert Mitchum, but it's not THAT bad or laughable. Is it? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brett Leveridge Subject: Re: (exotica) Robert Mitchum Date: 02 Jul 1997 23:44:05 -0400 (EDT) On Wed, 2 Jul 1997 Kpundit@aol.com wrote: > &, when Mitchum finally did "The Big Sleep", he was maybe even a bit too > "world weary" for my taste. Mitchum was without a doubt born to play Marlowe (I love Bogart but for Marlowe, it's gotta be Mitchum, I say). Mitchum's version of THE BIG SLEEP is pretty awful (through no fault of his own) but FAREWELL MY LOVELY, made a couple of years earlier, is absolutely terrific. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Micheleflp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Lounge Attack!! Date: 03 Jul 1997 00:08:07 -0400 (EDT) Hello to everyone out there who has been kind enough to respond to my Lounge Attack solicitation. Thank you so much. I have learned a great deal in these last few days about the history of the music and (possible) motivations for the denegrating of Lounge. However I am still troubled by the idea that there has to be a psychological explanation for the resurrgeance of Lounge music. Randall has made his point about the Esquire article he authored and I do apologize for lumping the article in with the others as a negative review. The part I felt was "negative" is the same issue he has brought up in his emailed response - about the psychological underpinnings for the Lounge resurrgeance. I am still troubled by this theory and here is why: In my opinion, by ascertaining that those into Lounge are fulfilling some sort of psychological need, you have uncut the legitimacy of Lounge as a music culture or scene. I would like to think that people are into Lounge music because it is simply great music. Do you understand where I am coming from? It is handicapping Lounge as a culture by implying that it is just a response to some deep-seated psychological needs having to do with mating rituals. I just don't buy that. I myself have never used Lounge music to "mate" with anyone and in fact, it is an anti-mating ritual at my house, since my boyfriend, for the most part, hates lounge. Although I have to admit that one of the main reasons I do like the music is because being born in 1962 and having not lived through the 1950's, I have romanticized, due to a healthy upbringing on old movies, that that period of time is way better than the miserable 1990's. (For sure economically, the 1950's was the golden era for the American way of life, but I understand that it was extremely sexually repressive.) So I do admit having a psychological need (sort of) but for the most part I just love the music - prior to Lounge I had been a bit of a collector of 1920's and 1930's big-band and have always loved old musicals. I have saved all your letters and would like to use them in whole or in part in the issue of Flipside (not due out til the late fall - we are really screwed up with deadlines right now). Because there are so many and because I am only allotted so much space, I may just have to quote some, but I want to try to squeeze as many as I can into my column and try to get my publisher to print one or two in the letters section. If anyone who has emailed a response to this issue would not like to be quoted or reprinted please let me know via email at Micheleflp@aol.com Thanx again for all the great responses. - Michele Flipside Fanzine # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Sando Subject: Re: (exotica) Robert Mitchum Date: 02 Jul 1997 21:24:10 -0700 >Mitchum was without a doubt born to play Marlowe (I love Bogart but >for Marlowe, it's gotta be Mitchum, I say). Mitchum's version of THE BIG >SLEEP is pretty awful (through no fault of his own) but FAREWELL MY >LOVELY, made a couple of years earlier, is absolutely terrific. And don't forget 'Macao' with Jane Russell! * * * Steve Sando, Coconut Grove Media PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 vox: 415 648 5803, fax: 415 282 4394, email:steve@mrlucky.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: (exotica) L O V E - H A T E Date: 03 Jul 1997 01:01:10 -0400 (EDT) Go rent Night Of The Hunter and pay your respects. I've been trying to find this very rare and expensive soundtrack forever. Composed by Walter Schumann and narrated by Charles Laughton. Heaven help us all if they attempt a remake. There oughta be a law. Same goes for Hitchcock films. Robert Mitchum kicks ass, big time. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Stereo separation Date: 03 Jul 1997 08:16:23 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-03 04:29:15 EDT, Brian Phillips writes: << have oftentimes wondered if the extreme Stereo of some records was also partially due to consumer outcry at the time. >> I read an article once (Stereo Review? about 10-15 years ago) that argued if it was consumer driven v. industry/marketing driven. The point of the article was more along the lines that consumers would always buy something new - but had to be convinced that it was new and that the purchase would elevate the consumers social status. The article suggested kick-backs from equipment manufacturers to record companies. Sounded to contrived until it made the point that new stereo equip owners would want to purchase new stereo records to replace their mono ones. The article went into great detail about how the tremendous separation would convience neighbors, friends, etc. that they needed a new stereo to be social equal. Detroit did this for years. When GM added airconditioning in 1953 (Buick and Cadallic) they opted for the coils to be mounted in trunk with clear vent tubes coming out of package shelf into head liner where the vents were. They knew when you were on the road people would see you with the windows rolled up and know you have airconditioning. Now even in you driveway or a parking lot people could identify you have A/C. You could raise YOUR social status by buying a car like theirs. This marketing stuff has always facinated me. Any comments? Regards Robert Brooks (Tiki Bob) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) Jimmy Stewart, Robert Mitchum and a Calypso question. Date: 03 Jul 1997 08:56:51 -0400 Jimmy Stewart may be on tape reading his poetry. He has made two appearances that I know of, one as a surprise to a great fan of his, Carol Burnett, singing a song about a cowboy named _____ Bob (I want to say Buffalo Bob, but I may be mixing Howdy Doody and Stewart) and his horse, a pretty good horse. The other appearance was on a show I do not know the name of, however, any time that he would sing the line "...anything about a horse" dancers would appear on the stage decked out in Jockey regalia singing entirely different songs about horses, disrupting his. When they would finish, he would start back up again, to be interrupted again. If anything was recorded, I would bet it was this song. Thinking of Mitchum, I thought of Calypso and that led me to Maya Angelou who recorded Miss Calypso. Scamp did a great job on the reissue. Speaking of Calypso albums, did Louis Farrakhan record one? Mentioning his name is like asking for a fight in some circles, however, as a small favor, could we kindly leave discussion of his politics off of the list, please? I am just curious. If he did indeed record, that makes at least two people in the Nation of Islam that may have been in the recording industry; the other is Benjamin Chavis, who had a label called Chavis in Wilmington, DE. And, today, another great one died: Jimmy Stewart. Was his voice >ever featured on a phonograph record? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik@top.monad.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Jimmy Stewart, Robert Mitchum and a Calypso question. Date: 03 Jul 1997 09:08:30 -0400 (EDT) Brian Phillips writes: >Speaking of Calypso albums, did Louis Farrakhan record one? Mentioning his >name is like asking for a fight in some circles, however, as a small favor, >could we kindly leave discussion of his politics off of the list, please? I'm aware of two calypso singles that Farrakhan recorded in the '50's. One was under the pseudonym of "The Charmer," I think. I'm not sure if the other one used a different name or not. Only one was known to exist for a long time, but the second was tracked down a couple of years ago and was mentioned in a Boston Globe article last year. --Jon Johnson erik@top.monad.net North Swanzey, New Hampshire # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jessica Cameron Subject: (exotica) Robert Mitchum, R.I.P Date: 03 Jul 1997 09:03:48 -0400 I'm surprised no one's mentioned the late, great Mr. Mitchum's hot rod tune, "The Ballad of Thunder Road." It's a rock version of the theme from the movie "Thunder Road," which was originally (at least in the movie) much much slower. "Night of the Hunter" is my favorite Mitchum movie (but "Thunder Road" is pretty great too, esp. with a appearence by Keely Smith), and there actually was a remake--a made for TV movie starring Richard Chamberlain (sp? the guy from "The Thornbirds) in the role originated by Mr. Mitchum. : P BTW, I read somewhere that Mr. Mitchum did most of the directing of the child actors in "Night of the Hunter." Charles Laughton hated them. Thanks for the space, Jessica # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "George V. Chastain" Subject: (exotica) Stewart and Mitchum recordings Date: 03 Jul 1997 11:07:18 -0400 (EDT) Jimmy Stewart does an effective narration, with choral/musical accompaniment, of the story line of his '60's Civil War film SHENANDOAH on the soundtrack album. This cut was reissued a couple of years ago on a collection of Western stuff--don't remember if it was Rhino's excellent 3-CD boxed set, or the import (Bear Family?) CD "My Rifle, My Pony and Me" (Dean Martin's single from RIO BRAVO!) or another one. I don't think SHENANDOAH was one of Stewart's best films, but it's chockful of traditional values and a charming performance by Stewart as the strong-willed patriarch of a large family. My parents both loved this film, mostly because of quirky lines from Stewart ("I didn't ask you if you loved her. Do you *like* her?"). My faves would include Hitchcock's VERTIGO and REAR WINDOW, Ford's THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE, Capra's IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE, Anthony Mann's series of tough 50's westerns (THE NAKED SPUR, WINCHESTER '73, BEND OF THE RIVER, MAN FROM LARAMIE and THE FAR COUNTRY), DESTRY RIDES AGAIN, THE PHILADELPHIA STORY, CALL NORTHSIDE 777, OF HUMAN HEARTS, HARVEY, BROKEN ARROW, CARBINE WILLIAMS, THE GLENN MILLER STORY, SPIRIT OF ST. LOUIS, BELL BOOK AND CANDLE, THE FBI STORY, ANATOMY OF A MURDER, CHEYENNE AUTUMN, THE SHOOTIST and THE BIG SLEEP. I recently scored the soundtrack from NIGHT OF THE HUNTER and was delighted to find that it includes Robert Mitchum's spooky singing ("Leaning On the Everlasting Arms") along with Walter Schumann's score and fabulous narration by Charles Laughton. Some of my other favorite Mitchum films: OUT OF THE PAST, PURSUED, STORY OF G.I. JOE, CROSSFIRE, BLOOD ON THE MOON, THE RACKET, HIS KIND OF WOMAN, THE LUSTY MEN, ANGEL FACE, TRACK OF THE CAT, RIVER OF NO RETURN, HEAVEN KNOWS MR. ALLISON, THUNDER ROAD, HOME FROM THE HILL, THE LIST OF ADRIAN MESSENGER, RYAN'S DAUGHTER, FRIENDS OF EDDIE COYLE, THE YAKUZA, FAREWELL MY LOVELY, CAPE FEAR, TOMBSTONE (narration) and DEAD MAN. Sorry to get so far afield from the normal threads, but my appreciation of the music near and dear to this group is thoroughly entwined with my lifelong love for movies. Jimmy and Mitch will never be gone as long as their movies survive. George "E-gor" Chastain # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TothMD@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Crazy Prado Japanese imports Date: 03 Jul 1997 12:09:22 -0400 (EDT) I sent this stuff a few weeks ago when the list disappeared and returned, seemingly taken over by space aliens posing as list posters. Apparently my old post is floating out near Alpha Centauri, as it never showed up at my end on the list. Here we go again... I found the following Japanese import items were listed as available on a couple online ordering services. Does anyone know ANYTHING about these? --- ** Perez Prado "Hora Azul" on VHS and *Laserdisc*! - available from CD Now (www.cdnow.com), same price, either format, $62.70 US. It listed the following description (no program length!!) >La Hora Azul Perez Prado en el Recuerdo "Cerezo Rosa," "Mambo No. 8 - >Que Rico el Mambo," "La Virgen de la Macarena," more. B&W. ( mono) I went ahead and took the gamble and ordered this a couple weeks ago, and it's on back-order. *Kinda* pricey, but items like a Prado Laserdisc that have NO BUSINESS *existing* generally suck me in. Supposedly a lot of this Japanese stuff goes out of print almost instantaneously, and I wouldn't be surprised if my "back-ordered" turns into a "sorry, no longer available." I'll report back if/when I get it, but would definitely appreciate any info from anybody who knows anything. ** PEREZ PRADO: IN HIS EARLY DAYS (W/HIS ORCH, LIMITD) (11CD) (RCA) Available from Sound City 2000 at http://www.soundcity2000.com/cdjpn/jpn061.html for a mere $322.99. Even without making that Laserdisc order, WAY out of my price range. What scope of his RCA catalog might be considered "Early Days?" His pre-stereo recordings? One would hope these CDs were around 74-minutes each, to justify *eleven* of the suckers. What might *800+* minutes of "early" RCA Prado consist of? SOMEBODY get the scoop on this one! Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com TothMD@aol.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Sando Subject: Re: (exotica) Stewart and Mitchum recordings Date: 03 Jul 1997 09:37:33 -0700 I have Jimmy Stewart singing 'Easy to Love' on a Cole Porter collection and somewhere else on a Golden Throats-type collection. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: (exotica) Re: Robert Mitchum and calypso Date: 03 Jul 1997 13:15:46 -0400 >Thinking of Mitchum, I thought of Calypso His main singing bag was country. The hot-rod and oldies-station classic "Ballad of Thunder Road" really stems from country singing. >Speaking of Calypso albums, did Louis Farrakhan record one? That's the rumor. Politics and calypso always were inseparable in the lives of West Indians. It used to be that the competition for calypso kingship (culminating at Carnival) was more intense than the U.S. presidential races (which, like the superbowl, often aren't so intense anyway). Calypso also was directly affected by politics (apart from lyrical content). Ritualized, mock fighting with sticks (sometimes flaming torches) erupted into real violence at Carnival one time too many. Consequently, drumming was banned for a time -- until steel drums became the "bathtub gin" workaround. Apart from his camp calypso LP, which is a hoot, Hollywood bad boy Mitchum would have loved the same aspects in real calypso that he appreciated in country music (the old stuff, not this modern TV jive): plaintive, even brutal honesty and humor about personal and social subjects. tony The Wilds Scene -> http://www.charm.net/~wilds/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: (exotica) So THAT's Farrakhan! Date: 03 Jul 1997 13:22:48 -0400 > I'm aware of two calypso singles that Farrakhan recorded in the '50's. >One was under the pseudonym of "The Charmer," I think. I'm not sure if the >other one used a different name or not. > Only one was known to exist for a long time, but the second was tracked >down a couple of years ago and was mentioned in a Boston Globe article last >year. No way! Way! I don't have time just now to look for the second one, but "Is She Is, or Is She Ain't" is on one of the greatest of all calypso records. The compilation "Don't Touch Me Tomato" features a perfectly obscene jacket: a deformed tomato resting on black lace panties. It also has the Duke of Iron's three greatest naughty calypsos, The Big Bamboo, Parakeets, and I Left her Behind for You. Tony in Charm City The Wilds Scene -> http://www.charm.net/~wilds/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: (exotica) Crazy Prado Japanese imports Date: 03 Jul 1997 13:47:35 -0400 >>La Hora Azul Perez Prado en el Recuerdo "Cerezo Rosa," "Mambo No. 8 - >>Que Rico el Mambo," "La Virgen de la Macarena," more. B&W. ( mono) This material (post 1956 or '57) was released on several LPs in the 1970s under license from RCA Japan -- LPs from Mexico, Europe, and Japan at least. All the LPs I've seen are in stereo (true stereo), so a mono CD sounds like a shuck. No reason it should be priced more than any other CD. [Ouch.] The best Prado CDs are ones featuring his later work from the 1970s -- Mexican releases. And there's at least one Mexican LP with serious funk on it. Prado vinyl is cheap and plentiful, and bottom-heavy mambo really begs to be enjoyed in analog. But the TREMENDOUS Concierto Para Bongo LP is hard to find so get that CD! >** PEREZ PRADO: IN HIS EARLY DAYS (W/HIS ORCH, LIMITD) (11CD) (RCA) Prado's early days were pre-RCA. There are all sorts of inferior budget-label LPs with usually the same, odd, public-domain outtakes and stuff (like the Hendrix thing). One rare LP (which I'm selling), on the Latin label Seeco, probably is his first true album session. RCA picked him up after he was already a sensation in Mexico. The first LP was a 10" and it was mostly a collection of hit singles previously released on 78s. Mambo #5 and Mambo Jambo, among others, were re-released, re-recorded, and remixed many, many times. The Japanese material is quite different than "Big Hits By Prado," and "The Best of Perez Prado" on Camden is even different than those two. (Big Hits and Best of have the exact same tunes but different mixes.) tony The Wilds Scene -> http://www.charm.net/~wilds/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: (exotica) Adventures Of The Wheels Of Cheese Date: 03 Jul 1997 19:06:06 +0100 First, a couple of questions: 1) Stanley Wilson: who he? I've got an album with just a couple of Stanley Wilson tracks on, including "Alfred Hitchcock Presents". He was also the second conductor for "Latin-Esque", right? That's all I know. Hope someone can tell me a little more about this guy. 2) There's a remix CD of Pierre Henry's "Messe Pour Le Temps Present" out on Phillips France (the original is available on CD too), with remixes by Dimitri From Paris, Funky Porcini, others (this was mentioned in the current (?) issue of "The Wire", which has an article on/interview with M. Henry). Has anyone got this who would like to comment on its goodness/badness? Second, a bunch of waffle about some skimmings from the large piles of recent weeks. Perhaps that's an unfortunate way to put it. Never mind. "If you want the waffle to be removed, please e-mail an email removal reply with the word "remove" in the subject title header reference line banner, and even though it bounces we will add you to two dozen more spam lists." "The Sizzling Twenties" -- Eric Rogers and his Orchestra Early Decca Phase 4 release. It's truly ridiculous and splendiferous, with bananas instrumentation plus daft as a brush effects lathered everywhere create that instant ROTFLMAO atmosphere. The rendition of "Tiger Rag" takes the cake, featuring a guy with a sore throat pretending to be a deadly stereophonized tiger, female squeaks (a "damsel" who unfortunately turns out now to have moved fast enough, according to the liner notes), tuneable drum boings and slidey whistles, as well as the speedy noodlings. "Bongos From The South" -- Edmundo Ros Another early Decca Phase 4 record. Mr. Ros is really at the peak of his powers with this one. "Deep In The Heart Of Texas" as a conga. A frightening man. "Twelve Star Percussion" -- The International "Pop" Stars Another early Decca Phase 4 record... at least it would be if I hadn't found the mono version (Sound 4). Not up to the level of the two above, but it does have "Button Up Your Overcoat" on it. So there you go. "Dancing Percussion" -- Kurt Edelhagen and his Orchestra Polydor Stereo Musicale. Nice music, but a really clicketty disc. However, the interior of the gatefold has charts for each song, showing a bar-by-bar breakdown of which side each instrument appears on, so when they get obliterated I can always look up what would have happened. "When The Saints Go" -- David Lindup and the Big Band As John Dankworth's liner notes say: "This [the title] of course refers to an edict of the Vatican in 1969 declaring redundant a number of the more legendary and less historically substantial members of that exclusive circle". However, why Mr. Lindup chose this theme to create 12 tracks of cheese-funk music is an open question. "Shakespeare and All That Jazz" -- John Dankworth and Cleo Laine Cleo sings segments of speeches and sonnets to Johnny's noodling. I find this rancidly repellant. I had to do the thing where you get the needle and listen to the first 10 seconds of each track and then sigh and stick it in that pile with the good-looking covers but no musical value whatsoever. "The Very Best Of Roberto Delgado" It's got Mr. Delgado on the front wearing his NHS specs and a sombrero. He looks like a pudgy Vic Reeves. Most of it isn't up to his very best ("Hawaiian Blue Beat Baby", "Salambo No. 1"), but most of it gets to "quite best" level, and it does contain his version of "Soul Limbo", which Brits will recognize as the cricket theme and get very excited and start banging tin mugs as they dance around the room. Or not, according to temperament. "Pop Goes The Posthorn" -- Elgar Howarth and the Grimesthorpe Colliery Band I've been looking for something like this for ages: the album "Bravo Brasso" produced by George Martin is a Studio 2 album that attempts to give a "modern" brass band sound, but it's pretty boring. This, on the other hand, contains both the traditional skillful brass band fare (e.g. Prelude from Act III of Lohengrin), plus some specially written "pop"ular music: the high speed "Cops and Robbers" and "Pell Mell". Perhaps the most exciting euphonium playing I've ever heard. "This is Andre Brasseur" Attack of the Belgian multi-sound organist. Curate's egg. Bit disappointing, because M. Brasseur wrote IMHO the greatest grooviest organ pieces known to BE: "Mad Train" and "Hold Up". "Cugat in Europe" -- Xavier Cugat This is marvellous: it was well worth the price of admission (40p) just to have the Latinized version of "Apache", let alone the rest. "Stag Party" with Ruth Wallis Apparently if you stick this on for a party of red-blooded lads, your party will "get going one way -- or another!". I think if I tried it, they'd get going out the door pretty sharpish, the same way it did off my turntable. Last -- but certainly not least -- "An Evening With Les Dawson" Which is not even remotely relevant to an exotica list, but the cover picture indicates that he used to be ginger. Curious, and probably curiously uninteresting. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik@top.monad.net Subject: Re: (exotica) So THAT's Farrakhan! Date: 03 Jul 1997 14:14:27 -0400 (EDT) Tony Wilds writes: >I don't have time just now to look for the second one, but "Is She Is, or >Is She Ain't" is on one of the greatest of all calypso records. The >compilation "Don't Touch Me Tomato" features a perfectly obscene jacket: a >deformed tomato resting on black lace panties. It also has the Duke of >Iron's three greatest naughty calypsos, The Big Bamboo, Parakeets, and I >Left her Behind for You. Jello Biafra also mentions a Farrakhan disco single entitled "Let Us Unite" in his interview in Re/Search's "Incredibly Strange Music, Vol. II." Jello: "And here's a LOUIS FARRAKHAN *disco* single! It shows him posing in front of a fake sunset remarkably like the fake sunsets found on HEINO album covers. He croons in Barry White-style, "Let Us Unite" with the same "unity or else" mentality of early Agnostic Front skinhead lyrics." There's a picture of the single's sleeve next to Biafra's comments. The copyright date is given as 1984, but it kind of looks older than that to me; maybe '77 or '78. --Jon Johnson erik@top.monad.net North Swanzey, New Hampshire # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@pop.tiac.net (Br. Cleve) Subject: Re: (exotica) a frightening new find Date: 02 Jul 1997 20:43:03 -0400 Michael Greenberg wrote: >I recently found a sealed copy of a 12" single 45 rpm stereo record >from 1976 by Lalo Schiffrin which is a "Disco Mix" of (side 1) Jaws >and (side 2) Flamingo and Quiet Village (yes, Baxter goes disco!). >Apparently these tracks are from an lp entitled Black Widow. > >Is anyone familiar with this one? I just picked this album up last week. It's a funky disco record (Schiffrin did a few of these on CTI Records in the 70's. "Towering Toccata" is a really good one.) "Jaws" and "Quiet Village" would surely stump anyone in a blindfold test; you'd never know either one if the titles weren't on the record. That's not to say they're bad, mind you. "Flamingo" is recognizable, and nice. These records work alongside the various EZ Disceau (as Jimmy Bee has nicely dubbed it) things like Salsoul Orchestra, Van McCoy, Love Unlimited Orchestra, Ritchie Family, & T.I.P. Orchestra. Found the ultimate EZ Disceau record last week - "Slide.....Easy In", a homoerotic disco album by the one and only Rod McKuen (his name does not appear on the outer jacket). The cover features a shortening-slathered fist coming out of a Crisco (redone as Disco) can. The title tune features the moans and groans of a gentleman being, uh, buggered. Rod also sings a paean to Anita Bryant called "Don't Drink The O.J." Today I saw an LP called "Rock, Gently" subtitled "Rock Hudson sings the songs of Rod McKuen". I see a pattern here. Rod saw Combustible Edison in L.A. last fall, and soon thereafter reissued a few Exotica compilations on the Laserlight label. He's proven for 40 years that he knows a trend when he sees one, as he's made beatnick, folk, rock, poetry, environmental, & mood music records. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@pop.tiac.net (Br. Cleve) Subject: Re: (exotica) Adventures Of The Wheels Of Cheese Date: 03 Jul 1997 14:38:44 -0400 Peter Hipwell wrote: >1) Stanley Wilson: who he? I've got an album with just a couple of >Stanley Wilson tracks on, including "Alfred Hitchcock Presents". He >was also the second conductor for "Latin-Esque", right? That's all I >know. Hope someone can tell me a little more about this guy. Stanley Wilson was an orchestra leader, conductor and composer. He was also the Music Supervisor at Universal Television, where he hired Juan Esquivel, Pete Rugolo and John Williams (still known as Johnny) to write musical cues which are still used today. He conducted the "M-Squad", "Wagon Train" and "Lost Man" soundtracks, and wrote the music to "Shotgun Slade" (a private eye western), among others. I have a TV Theme album he did on Mercury. He died in the early 70's, in a car accident,according to Esquivel. >2) There's a remix CD of Pierre Henry's "Messe Pour Le Temps Present" >out on Phillips France (the original is available on CD too), with >remixes by Dimitri From Paris, Funky Porcini, others (this was >mentioned in the current (?) issue of "The Wire", which has an >article on/interview with M. Henry). Has anyone got this who would like >to comment on its goodness/badness? It's pretty nice overall - it contains a couple of Henry's original recordings from the late 60's along with the remixes. Most mixes are in a drums n bass style, although the ones by Dimitri From Paris and Chris The French Kiss would not be out of place at an EZ Listening dance club. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Sometimes an augmented 6th is just an augmented 6th Date: 03 Jul 1997 14:54:39 -0400 > ...just a response to some deep-seated psychological needs > having to do with mating rituals. Gawrsh! I guess I've been listening to this music all wrong. I thought I was just digging enjoyably interesting music with a wide variety of colors, rhythms and structures. Silly me -- always the last to catch on. So what're the rules here? I have to have a date present before I'm allowed to turn on that white-male-technology hi-fi (with all of those glowing, phallic tubes)? (turning down the sarcasm) This all ties in to the historic problem that most writing about music is not about music. It's about lyrics, personalities, style, sociology, psychology (I almost lapsed into J. Rotten's rant at the beginning of "No Fun") -- anything but the music (which is maybe a good thing -- let the actual music remain an ineffable mystery). The instrumental nature of much of this field of music probably exacerbates the situation. Maybe if the next ComEd album had some nice lyrics about the pain of existence, lonely Saturday nights and saving the rain forests (that would be a perfect track for an Yma Sumac cameo appearance), the reviewers would be real happy. (oops, bumped that sarcasm knob by accident) Again, apologies in advance to Randall. I haven't read your article and can only go by what has been said on the list -- so I may well be offbase. Apparently you've also had some exchange with Michele that was offlist or lost by my fluky mail server. Anyway, reading between the lines, it SEEMS like your article was more about the lounge club scene than simply the music. And IF so, haven't clubs always been about mating rituals, whatever the music? And as long as I've gone and shot off on this subject again, a couple other things that bugged me in the L.A. Weekly screed: 1) The usual implication that people latch onto one genre of music and that's it. Besides the fact that this "genre" is mighty wide-ranging, I think a lot of us on the list also enjoy many varieties of music that would not fit in here. 2) If that article is to be believed, the women on this list do not exist. (don't really have a tube stereo, just wish I did -- hmm, wonder what I meant by that?) m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Robert Mitchum Date: 03 Jul 1997 15:34:52 -0400 (EDT) kpundit sez: << And, I even think his calypso album isn't that bad! I mean, the voice isn't what you'd expect to come out of a Robert Mitchum, but it's not THAT bad or laughable. Is it? >> it's not bad at all. i like it. i'm gonna listen to it this afternoon at work, in fact. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dfrisby@mgm.com (Doug Frisby) Subject: (exotica) Night Of The Hunter Date: 03 Jul 1997 11:50:43 -0700 If you haven't seen Night Of The Hunter, do yourself a favor and rent it. In fact, I've just gotten in a copy of it and am willing to send it to one lucky contestant. Thhhat's right... The first to reply with the correct 2 part answer to the following question will win the brand new copy of "Night Of The Hunter"!! 1. Preacher Mitchum has the words "Love" and "Hate" tattooed onto his hands. Which hand has the word "hate" tattooed onto it? The right or the left?? (one chance only) 2. Who composed and conducted the score to the movie? Good luck. I'll notify the list of the winner as soon as there is one. Doug dfrisby@mgm.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@pop.tiac.net (Br. Cleve) Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Lounge Attack!! Date: 03 Jul 1997 18:31:26 -0400 At 12:08 AM 7/3/97, Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: >However I am still troubled by the idea that >there has to be a psychological explanation for the resurrgeance of Lounge >music. I am, too. For me, it was just a discovery/rediscovery of interesting, well-crafted, groovy music. As a pre-adolescent in the mid-60's, my favorite records were not rock records, but soundtracks by Mancini, Neal Hefti, John Barry, Burt Bacharach, Jerry Goldsmith and others of that school. When I discovered a bunch of Crime Jazz soundtracks at a flea market in the late 80's, I went back and pulled out my old soundtracks. I went off from there. I remembered hearing Esquivel at Byron Werner's apartment around '85, and went searching out stereo oddity records. I was still listening to (and playing) rock, soul, C&W, funk, zydeco, jazz, etc etc (I've been a pro keyboard player for a quarter century). The odd thing was when people I knew started saying I had lost my mind, that I was listening to schlock (or my favorite complaint from L.A.Weekly writer Johnny Angel, whom I'd known for years :"Whaddaya playing yer parents music now?"). It was startling the amount of negativity that these records brough out in people. It was just like when I brought Ramones and Sex Pistol singles to a party one time back in '77 - people were really angry when they got put on. I guess one thing I've learned in all these years is that as a musician, I listen to music differently than the average person. Most people really only want to hear what was popular when they were in high school or college, and hear that for the rest of their lives. Something about music and memories that I will never be able to comprehend. No matter. But there was something about EZ Listening that really got people mad. I found that quite intriquing. I did a few interviews with Randall Rothenberg when he was preparing that article; he was trying to get at the "why and why now" question of it all, which is a valid question, I guess. I always figured it this way - you can really only take so much loud, angry music in squalid clubs; you can also only take so much lame, overblown music at inflated prices in concert ampitheatres. Combustible Edison came along and played some hopefully different venues where there was no mosh pit, and you could carry on a conversation over the music if you wanted to (although I wish people would just shut the fuck up). But the real reason, I always thought, was that women like to dress up for a nice evening, and men like to be where women are. Plus, the music sounds like movies and TV, and everybody likes them. dressing up for a nice evening myself right now, br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kpundit@aol.com Subject: (exotica)Let's Calypso w/Mitchum & Farrakhan! Date: 03 Jul 1997 20:06:52 -0400 (EDT) To answer the Louis Farrakhan question, I have I guess what you'd call a 12" ep by him singing 2 different songs (2 versions of each). You could call it calypso but I don't think it would make someone want to go put on their straw hat & drink their favorite rum drink! The songs have surprisingly positive simplistic messages & there's a bit of funk & synth stuff in there, too (also Farrakhan doing some "scat" calypso) but not based on politics or anything else, I think I like Bob Mitchum's attempt better! The Farrakhan record is on the A.V.C. label & is #10903 &, if I'm not mistaken, I think I've seen it listed in the Vinyl Lives catalog (E-mail) vinyllives@earthlink.net where Preston, who is also on this list, resides. This is the only Farrakhan record I'm aware of. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: RE: (exotica) Jimmy Stewart, Robert Mitchum and a Calypso question. Date: 03 Jul 1997 21:20:58 On Thu, 03 Jul 1997 08:56:51 -0400, hagar@mindspring.com wrote... > >Jimmy Stewart may be on tape reading his poetry. He has made two >appearances that I know of, one as a surprise to a great fan of his, Carol >Burnett, singing a song about a cowboy named _____ Bob (I want to say >Buffalo Bob, but I may be mixing Howdy Doody and Stewart) and his horse, a >pretty good horse. You may be thinking of "Ragtime Cowboy Joe": Oh how he sings Raggy music to his cattle as he swings Back and forth in his saddle on a horse (A pretty good horse)... I'm most familiar with a version of this song done by Alvin & The Chipmunks, but I do vaguely recall Jimmy doing this for Carol Burnett. -Indy Rutks (rutks002@tc.umn.edu) ==================================================== I used to be "with it", but then they changed what "it" was. Now, what I'm with isn't "it", and what's "it" seems weird and scary to me. - Abraham Simpson ==================================================== # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J. Diamond" Subject: (exotica) Playlist for Jack Date: 03 Jul 1997 20:50:20 -0700 KFJC play list 6/29/97 for Jack Diamond http://www.KFJC.org ARTIST TRACK ALBUM ____________________________________________________________________ Planets Chunky Don Fagerquist Octet Time After Time Mode, 1957 Herb Geller-Alto Marty Paich-Piano Three Suns Jingle Bells Ding Dong Dandy Xmas Fokswingers Time Won't Let Me Harihar Rao-Sitar Louis Bellson Orch The Eel Project 3 Mel Brown Sonuva Preacher Man Impulse Bob Florence Orch Temple Pagaent Exotica Suite! Henry Mancini Orch Mystery Movie Theme 1976 Phil Moore Orch. W/ Leda Annest Portrait of Leda Pt 1 Columbia Frank Morgan-Tenor Sax Conte Candoli-Trumpet Jose Mangual-Bongo Wild Bill Davis-Organ Machito's Rhythm Section Luis Miranda-Conga Bernies Tune Mark Murphy This Could Be the Start Bill Holman Orch Of Something Big P & C Candoli Ray Martin Orchestra Cartoonik Sound of Sight Dissvelt, Tom/ Sonik Re-Entry Song of the 2ND Moon Baltan, Kid Esquivel Scheherezade Strings Aflame Ventures Aquairius/Let the Sunshine Henry Mancini Birdie Num Num The Party!!!!! Leonard Rosenman Captured Beneath/Planet/Apes Stanley Meyers Kinky Dolly Kaleidescope On Her Bed of Roses Walk to Hell-Destruction On Her Bed of Roses Truman Capote Person's Unknown Reads From In Cold Blood Jerry Styner Shacktown Revenge Savage Seven Reverend Horton Heat Marijuana Smoke 'em If You Got 'em Lawrence Ferlinghetti The Poets Eye Fantasy, 58 Chapuis, [coll]: Gravikords, Jean-Claude Luminescence Whirlies &.... Paul Horn Qrt Chloe Dot, 1958(?) Ken Nordine Spectrum Word Jazz Vol. 2 Roy Lanham A Smooooooooooooooooth One Dolton, Stereo Rod Mc Kuen The Elegant Prison Downstairs Beatsville Peter Green/ Fleetwood Mac Live Underway Live at the B B C 1969 Mal Shape, Jim Coyle The Big Sleep 1964 Warren Barker Orch Hawaiian Eye 1960 Mel Henke The Twisters! Warner Bros. Davie Allen/Arrows The Devil's Rumble Devil's Angels Link Wray Please Please Me Beatles, 1963 Shorty Rogers/Giants Manteca Afro Cuban Influence Al Caiola French Connection Theme Gianni Oddi Geronimo Arnold Stang Ferdinand the Bull ABC Paramount Shorty Rogers Louisiana Tow'd Bug Out Brass Managerie Theme From Shaft 1973! Synthesonic Sounds Superfly [coll]: Easy Project Pete Rugolo Orch Diamond on the Move KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 http://www.kfjc.org All DJ's Playlists and all music added to the KFJC-FM Libraries, Home Pages, Music DB Keyword Search and all sorts of other quel stuff. Bye for now, Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Magnus Sandberg Subject: (exotica) Internet shops? Date: 04 Jul 1997 11:13:32 +0200 Hi I enjoy looking at "Lps for sale" lists, as I imagine most of You do. The problem is it takes time finding them. So, do You have any suggestions on good dealers on the net? I have Dusty Groove America, Subliminal Sounds & Stuff, Wilds Sounds, JackDiamond.com, Johans ANTIQUARIUM and some more bookmarked. Please e-mail me. ------- Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: [Br. Cleve: Re: (exotica) Adventures Of The Wheels Of Cheese] Date: 04 Jul 1997 11:31:23 +0100 Br. Cleve wrote: > Peter Hipwell wrote: > >2) There's a remix CD of Pierre Henry's "Messe Pour Le Temps Present" > >out on Phillips France (the original is available on CD too), with > > It's pretty nice overall - it contains a couple of Henry's original > recordings from the late 60's along with the remixes. Most mixes are in a > drums n bass style, although the ones by Dimitri From Paris and Chris The > French Kiss would not be out of place at an EZ Listening dance club. > "Chris The French Kiss"? As a nom de disque, that's almost a match for "Julian Bream and His Freshwater Stream" or "DJ Osprey". There's something about a rhyme that's sublime. The original "Psyche Rock" is not out of place in our EZ Listening dance pub club, which should give you some idea of the level of smoothie sophistication we are evincing on this side of the pond. I am living in a heterogenous inferno of beer and fags... sorry, cigarettes (NO SNICKERING AT THE BACK THERE), and tequila and brown slip-on shoes and corduroy and golf and Frenchness and... even the odd piece of music. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: studio@wayno.com (Wayno) Subject: (exotica) That Man... Robert Mitchum Date: 04 Jul 1997 07:11:32 +0100 Besides the famous calypso LP, Mitchum also recorded a pretty fair country album, "That Man Robert Mitchum... Sings" (Monument Records, 1967) that's worth seeking. The LP includes a more laid-back version of "Ballad od Thunder Road" plus a version of "Whippoorwill," which was originally sung by Keely Smith in the film. Here's a full track listing: You Deserve Each Other Walker's Woods Wheels (Keep A-Rollin') In My Place Ballad of Thunder Road That Man Right There Little Ole Wine Drinker Me Ricardo's Mountain Sunny Little White Lies Gotta Travel On The liner notes by Johhny Mercer are priceless too: "...His beat is impeccable, only a shade behind Bobby Darrin, and if a note is too high for him, what the hell -- he can act his way through it. I think the quality of his singing will surprise you -- if it hasn't already. If I sound like a "fag", sue me. As a singer, I'm sort of in the same bag... I'm a red-hot personal fan." The Bear Family CD "That Man" (BCD 15890 AH) includes all the material from both LPs as well as both sides of the 1958 "Thunder Road" single. It has a 28-page booklet with tons of photos, discography, detailed session information and liner notes. Don't miss Scamp's domestic reissue of "Calypso... Is Like So" either -- with liner notes by the world's greatest living music writer, Nick Tosches (Tosches has a terrific large article on Ed Sullivan in the current Vanity Fair). Wayno # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Magnus Sandberg Subject: (exotica) A book about homemade instruments Date: 04 Jul 1997 13:19:49 +0200 A few month, maybe a half year ago, I read in a swedish newspaper about a new book on homemade instruments. It featured interviews with the inventors (maybe 20-30) and a CD with examples of their music. The volume was rather luxurious and expensive as far as I can remember. If anyone recognize my vague description, and has something to tell me about this book+CD please e-mail me. Maybe it´s the best book in the galaxy, who knows? -------- Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Magnus Sandberg Subject: (exotica) Gravikords Whirlies and Pyrophones Date: 04 Jul 1997 16:54:50 +0200 >It´s called "Gravikords Whirlies and Pyrophones" and you can get it at >Subliminal Sounds and Stuff. We´re sold out at the moment but it will be >back in soon. >Stefan Thanks for the title. I found a image off the cover for those who havent seen it. NICE! http://www.ninestones.com/pics/gravi.jpeg ------- magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Lounge Attack!! Date: 04 Jul 1997 12:12:21 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-03 10:38:16 EDT, Micheleflp@aol.com writes: With respect to the psuedo-psychological readings some writers have given regarding Lounge or any subject for that matter, unless these writers are merely trying to give relevance to their own subjective feelings by trying to find some as yet unproven and soley self-conjectured theory and backing it up with psychological mumbo jumbo that they don't have the degree nor sufficent psychological education to back it up. How about turning the tables: Is it possible that due to some childhood repressed opedial complex these writers are actually sublimating their father hatred (for one time they couldn't stay up late) with the Lounge movement (or whatever they or their editors don't like this week). And furthermore an innate fear of loss of love (probably caused by not getting one week's allowance at the age of seven) have been forever ingrained in them so that they must follow through with this pop psychology or risk dissmisal. Back in the late '70s and early '80s I was a huge punk rock fan, a fan of the English stuff and not so much the American bands. Does this mean I was identifying with the lack of respect the Tory government was showing the upcoming future genration and my response the the increasing British unemployment! Hardly. It was more a reaction to how boring rock had become. How it would cost big bucks to see a group like Pink Floyd in a mega-dome stadium, it was about the great distance that had seperated bands from their fans - not just at the venue but more importantly in subject matter. Punk answered that. it was about people my age making exciting music that you could see up close and hang out with after the show. It was about the subway versus the limo. That's kind of what lounge is all about. It's the social aspect of hanging out with a group of friends listening to music that in comparison to the often jagged, discordant, repetitive , formula sound of much rock music today is amazingly fresh, well-crafted and highly melodic. And the funny thing is these people whio like this stuff are amongst the most learned musically cognizant people around, whose record collections span several eras and several genres. You are right Michelle, it IS about the music. Why Randall focused on a group of trust fund club kids is that it made good sensationalist copy for the Esquire reader, who would go nowhere near this scene couldn't vaildate Mr. Rothenberg's piece as anything less than a correct and insightful expose of "you wouln't believe what the crazy youth of America is into now." Who called this stuff Lounge anyway? The press strikes again. Think about it. The term lounge is regarded by many performers of this era as the place you were relegated to if you didn't have the talent or the popularity to fill "the big room." Hence, from the outset, the subtext of this term was somewhat disparaging. The Millionaire was correct in calling this Mood Music. That's precisely what it is. And this fine tradition continues to this day with the electronic movement. This "lounge" stuff is merely "classic" mood music and it's continued importance in current electronic music can be seen in several bands' compositional structure, and most aparently in their use of sampling. Here is one contemporary form of music that is showing due respect to music of this "lounge" era - unlike some of the current crop of magazine writers. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: (exotica)Let's Calypso w/Mitchum & Farrakhan! Date: 04 Jul 1997 13:11:33 -0400 >positive simplistic messages & there's a bit of funk & synth stuff in there, Not the calypso record. The Charmer's calypso record is GREAT and absolutely authentic, hence it's inclusion on the best calypso compilation record. It dates at least to the early 1960s, probably earlier. "Is She Is, or Is She Ain't" is about gender identity, as I vaguely recall. On the playlist for tomorrow night's tiki party. tony The Wilds Scene -> http://www.charm.net/~wilds/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) on the high road with... Date: 04 Jul 1997 16:49:35 -0400 If you haven't heard, Charles Kuralt has departed on that road trip in the sky. (Does this play out the traditional "series of three" superstition?) So, following in this week's unfortunate theme, did Mr. Kuralt ever wax any tracks? (wondering if the Mars probe will send back photos like "Space Escapade") m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Stereo Separation Date: 04 Jul 1997 18:06:56 -0400 (EDT) Greetings all! I hope that everybody is having a safe and happy 4th of July. Me? I just mixed a Pina Colada in one of my favorite coconut bar ware cups (hint, always double up on the rum). We'll light the tiki torches in about an hour and "swank out" with Denny as we grill on our very suburban-esque deck. In a message dated 97-07-03 04:29:15 EDT, Brian Phillips writes: << have oftentimes wondered if the extreme Stereo of some records was also partially due to consumer outcry at the time. >> I read an article once (Stereo Review? about 10-15 years ago) that argued if it was consumer driven v. industry/marketing driven. The point of the article was more along the lines that consumers would always buy something new - but had to be convinced that it was new and that the purchase would elevate the consumers social status. The article suggested kick-backs from equipment manufacturers to record companies. Sounded to contrived until it made the point that new stereo equip owners would want to purchase new stereo records to replace their mono ones. The article went into great detail about how the tremendous separation would convience neighbors, friends, etc. that they needed a new stereo to be social equal. Detroit did this for years. When GM added airconditioning in 1953 (Buick and Cadallic) they opted for the coils to be mounted in trunk with clear vent tubes coming out of package shelf into head liner where the vents were. They knew when you were on the road people would see you with the windows rolled up and know you have airconditioning. Now even in you driveway or a parking lot people could identify you have A/C. You could raise YOUR social status by buying a car like theirs. This marketing stuff has always facinated me. Any comments? Regards Robert Brooks (Tiki Bob) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael D. Toth" Subject: Re: (exotica) Crazy Prado Japanese imports Date: 04 Jul 1997 17:33:09 +0100 >>La Hora Azul Perez Prado en el Recuerdo "Cerezo Rosa," "Mambo No. 8 - >>Que Rico el Mambo," "La Virgen de la Macarena," more. B&W. ( mono) >This material (post 1956 or '57) was released on several LPs in the 1970s >under license from RCA Japan -- LPs from Mexico, Europe, and Japan at >least. All the LPs I've seen are in stereo (true stereo), so a mono CD >sounds like a shuck. No reason it should be priced more than any other CD. Uh oh. Maybe I didn't make this clear enough -- this isn't a CD, it's a video *Laserdisc* of filmed vintage Prado performances, ergo the Mono sound. The other info is really appreciated though. It's REALLY tough to make sense of that sea of Prado CDs out there. Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com TothMD@aol.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vinyllives@earthlink.net (R.Preston Peek) Subject: Re: (exotica) on the high road with... Date: 04 Jul 1997 19:44:18 -0400 >If you haven't heard, Charles Kuralt has departed on that road trip in the sky. >(Does this play out the traditional "series of three" superstition?) That's what I had thought, but he actually makes four (Brian Keith committed suicide about a week ago). Does this mean there are two more coming (for back-to-back series of three)??? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dfrisby@mgm.com (Doug Frisby) Subject: (exotica) Winner... Date: 04 Jul 1997 16:10:06 -0700 We have a winner of the Night Of The Hunter video. The word "Hate" was tattoed on his left hand and Walter Schuman composed and conducted. Thanks. Doug # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jessica Cameron Subject: (exotica) Abstract Female Vocals and the Salsoul Orchestra Date: 04 Jul 1997 19:50:31 -0400 I can't get enough of Yma Sumac, Bas Sheva, and Leda Annest, but can't seem to find any other LPs with abstract vocals. Way way way back when I used to read the mailing list archive after my computer class I remember a thread about a "Bas Sheva-esque" advant-garde suite with a woman snorting and grunting and generally making far-out noises. I think the whole suite was used on a documentary on PBS back in the 70s. Does any of this ring a bell? On a different note (lame music pun from tin-eared old me) ^_^, I was thrilled to see my beloved Salsoul Orchestra (salsa + soul = salsoul) mentioned on the list! I'm known to suddenly belt out all-time Vincent Montana Jr. penned classics like "Nice and Naasty" or "Beat Around the Bush" when on record shopping trips. ;) The only cruddy thing about that Salsoul sound is that a lot of their albums seem to be reissues of the same tunes. :( But, I recently found one with a beautiful (and subdued) tune called "Nightcrawler"--kind of a disco-exotica thing, complete with tv-detective show flute and cricket noises. The record also had the famous "Christmas Jollies" girl on the cover UNCENSORED, in a "Dance Your Ass Off to the Salsoul Orchestra" t-shirt. There's a cheap Salsoul reissue on the Springboard label (with credits given to the Salsa '78 orchestra) that has a good cover of the Ritchie Family's version of "Quiet Village," too. The Salsoul label has a lot of really great latin-exotica-electronic disco albums by Charo, Candido, etc. I wish they were easier to find. Thanks for the space (and any suggestions regarding abstract vocals), Jessica Oops, I forgot. One more thing about this "media criticism" thread--is it just me, or is the word "lounge" being over-used? I know some people who use it to describe ANY music without vocals, and it drives me crazy! I only feel comfortable calling something "loungey" if the liner notes say it was performed in a resturant or bar (or if it sounds like it was performed in a resturant or bar). I guess tourist and comedy records are "lounge," too. Was this a rant? Thanks again, Jessica ^_^ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pea Hicks Subject: Re: (exotica) Abstract Female Vocals and the Salsoul Orchestra Date: 04 Jul 1997 18:50:02 -0700 Jessica Cameron wrote: > > I can't get enough of Yma Sumac, Bas Sheva, and Leda Annest, but can't > seem > to find any other LPs with abstract vocals. Well, depending on how far you want to strecth the "exotica" genre, you could always check out Diamanda Galas...! > > The record also had the > famous > "Christmas Jollies" girl on the cover UNCENSORED, in a "Dance Your > Ass Off > to the Salsoul Orchestra" t-shirt. I've got two copies of "Christmas Jollies-" one with the uncensored shirt and one with the censored shirt, except that on that one you can still see through the poor censorship job and make out the words! pea (...trying to imagine how *anyone* could listen to Salsoul Orchestra long enough to "dance their ass off" to it...) -- Pea Hicks "Memory is my drug of choice." <---Realm 'O' The Optigan---> http://www.pilot.com/optigan Who will be the next to brave the *perils* of the VIRTUAL OPTIGAN??! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kpundit@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Tony Wilds & Louis Date: 04 Jul 1997 22:20:00 -0400 (EDT) To Tony Wilds who has responded so politely & favorably to my entries in the past: if you read my note, You will notice I was commenting about a SPECIFIC Louis Farrakhan record- a 12" called "Let Us Unite" which, if you can listen to & say there are no synths or funk influence, you've got yet another problem. I am unaware of Louis Farrakhan's other recordings & I don't doubt you are correct. But try reading next time. STILL your "pal". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) discoveries at home Date: 04 Jul 1997 22:48:26 -0700 (PDT) A holiday finally gives me the opportunity to straighten out my collection and, in the process, play music I had never heard (just because I have a recording doesn't mean I listened to it!). I ran across a neat 45 on the Sunbeam label. Al Caiola led the orchestra and Dick Haymes did the vocal for "Suffer." The bit of nasty in Dick's voice with the neat instrumental arrangement really made this work. Ever listened to the 1988 A&M release "Stay Awake," a CD of contemporary musicians doing renditions of Disney songs? I just re-listened to it and discovered that Yma Sumac is on it doing her version of "I wonder." It was part of a medley and Buster Poindexter led off with "Castle in Spain" which made good exotica as well. By the way, the producer of this very unusual CD (well, weird), Hal Willner, mentions a 1978 anthology put together by Dick Schory on his own Ovation Records. It was a four disc album of Disney music. Has anyone run across this before? Sounds interesting. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: (exotica)Let's Calypso w/Mitchum & Farrakhan! Date: 05 Jul 1997 14:37:30 -0400 >To answer the Louis Farrakhan question...You could call it calypso As with David Pike, you're generalizing from one later, irrelevant record. You needn't address me or "the question." That's all I have to say about it, and sorry to all. Tony Wilds The Wilds Scene -> http://www.charm.net/~wilds/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jbtwist@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Abstract Female Vocals and the Salsoul Orchestra Date: 05 Jul 1997 14:37:55 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-04 22:21:22 EDT, Jessica wrote: << I can't get enough of Yma Sumac, Bas Sheva, and Leda Annest, but can't seem to find any other LPs with abstract vocals. >> Hugo Friedhofer's liner notes to his OST for "Boy On A Dolphin" credit Marni Nixon with "out-of-this-world vocalise." She sings briefly on one cut and extensively on another during the film's underwater diving scenes, very lush and pretty stuff. Much of the album would fit in nicely on Baxter's "Jewels of the Sea," and the composer describes his music as "romantic, exotic, and impressionistic, written in an idiom that has been current for approximately fifty years." (Think Debussy, Vaughn-Williams and Delius). Many of these LP's were probably sold because of the cover with Sophia in a slip. Marni Nixon dubbed Natalie Wood's singing in West Side Story, and her voice was used for many other famous movies I can't remember. The "Boy" OST also has two songs by Mary Kaye, who sounds like the same singer & guitarist in the Mary Kaye Trio, a true "lounge" act that put out some 50's LP's("Jackpot" has slot machines on the cover) and appeared in the Baxter-scored film "Bop Girl goes Calypso." JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason M Tucker Subject: (exotica) Cocktail--Shaken and Stirred... Date: 05 Jul 1997 14:57:09 -0500 (CDT) I just picked up this disc used at a local shop, and I have fallen in love with it! I was biking downtown and started it on my discman, and almost fell off my bike when I heard the cover of "Safety Dance" and then when I heard "You Oughta Know" I was completely dumbfounded by this group. I've played it for all my friends, who are lacking in appreciation, but, oh, well. My question is what else has been done by Jaymz Bee and the Royal Jelly Orchestra? Do they tour much? I've seen the last 30 seconds of the video for "You Oughta Know" on the Box, but that's all. Another question: I saw a compilation disc at Best Buy called Jabberjaw that had Man or Astro-man? on it, as well as another new school exotica group whose name escapes me. Anyone know anything about this disc, and whether or not I should put it on my shopping list? Thanks! ______________________________________________________________________________ Jason Marc Tucker University of Minnesota P.O.Box 13226 Middlebrook Hall Minneapolis, MN 55414 412 22nd Ave. S. pager: (612) 818-3555 Minneapolis, MN 55455 e-mail: tuck0052@tc.umn.edu IRC nick: TikiBoy Web: http://www.tc.umn.edu/nlhome/m010/tuck0052 ______________________________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Abstract Female Vocals and the Salsoul Orchestra Date: 05 Jul 1997 16:25:33 -0400 > From: Jbtwist@aol.com > Subject: Re: (exotica) Abstract Female Vocals and the Salsoul Orchestra > > The "Boy" OST also has two songs by Mary Kaye, who sounds like the same > singer & guitarist in the Mary Kaye Trio, a true "lounge" act that put out > some 50's LP's("Jackpot" has slot machines on the cover) and appeared in the > Baxter-scored film "Bop Girl goes Calypso." Fun movie -- catch it if you get a chance. Another of those late 50s / early 60s movies based on the premise that rock 'n' roll is washed up and calypso (or the twist, or whatever) is going to be the new big thing. Gotta love the scientist/hero, club-hopping with his electronic meter that measures audience excitement. Gives the proceedings a slight seasoning of "monster movie" flavor. In guitar circles, a Fender Stratocaster with a blonde finish and gold hardware is referred to as a "Mary Kaye Strat", as she was pictured with such a guitar (which would have been a custom order at the time) in Fender promo literature in the late 50s / early 60s. My one big disappointment with "Bop Girl" was that Ms. Kaye had a hollowbody Gibson instead of the Fender. And no, she has no connection to Mary Kaye, the makeup mogul. Then the guitar would be pink. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Abstract Female Vocals and the Salsoul Orchestra Date: 05 Jul 1997 21:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Jbtwist wrote: << Hugo Friedhofer's liner notes to his OST for "Boy On A Dolphin" credit Marni Nixon with "out-of-this-world vocalise." She sings briefly on one cut and extensively on... Marni Nixon dubbed Natalie Wood's singing in West Side Story, and her voice was used for many other famous movies I can't remember >> marni nixon, marni nixon...i just know i have her on a record...which one is it, again?? Oh yes! Marni Nixon sings soprano solos on two tracks from the Mother Magoo Suite, which is the second side of Magoo In Hi-Fi. "Very Contrary Mary" and "Sheepish Bo-Peep". She's good. The Metropole Orchestra has "faithfully reconstructed" the Mother Magoo Suite and it's on a CD, from Basta. The Delirium In Hi-Fi and Soothing Sounds for Baby people. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jessica Cameron Subject: (exotica) Marni Nixon Date: 05 Jul 1997 21:21:26 -0400 >Hugo Friedhofer's liner notes to his OST for "Boy On A Dolphin" credit Marni >Nixon with "out-of-this-world vocalise." She sings briefly on one cut and >extensively on another during the film's underwater diving scenes, very lush >and pretty stuff. Oh yeah! MARNI! She sang on a cut from "Orienta" and was featured in the score of "Dementia" (aka "Daughter of Horror" aka "the movie playing in 'the Blob'"), wasn't she? Feeling kind of silly, Jessica ^_^ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peterp@inch.com (Peter Principle) Subject: (exotica) Re: Lounge Attack!! Date: 06 Jul 1997 09:55:01 -0400 (EDT) I thank both br cleve and Thee Millionaire for their lucid editorial comments on the above thread. I agree with you both. Arguing issues of taste is not constructive, and attacking criticism fuels other fires and looses touch with the original ground. I prefer to use a "spiritual" model when attempting to understand cultural semiotics, and am sure little of use can be found applying Fruedian concepts to generalize things like the popularity of something or changes in taste. Perhaps the artist's motives for creation can be somewhat illuminated using this map, but it is simple minded and won't satisfy the interest of any one with real insight or life experience... These are the areas that good journalism works, and bad journalism is just bad. That said I can sympathize with the poor writers who must keep up with the manufacture of trends and the generation of new classifications and lingo necessary to continue to appear "hip" and "cutting edge" and must also simplify things until they are "dumb enough" for mass consumption. These people's jobs are at stake here. We as consumers have helped to make this world we live in so we have to take some responsability for it. Anyway, as a musician whose work has been constantly confusing and frustrating (and I'm not always glad about that!) journalists and marketeers for 25 years myself, I too have seen them all change colors, and I am still doing the same thing I ever was... just sometimes with this technology and sometimes with another. thanx for the space... stay perenially eclectic peter principle # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DYDM6113@bureau.ucc.ie Subject: (exotica) Wavy Gravy Date: 06 Jul 1997 17:25:42 +0000 (GMT) Hello everybody, A few days ago I bought a CD called Wavy Gravy (for adult enthusiasts...). Actually I didn't really know what to expect and the main reason for buying it was the still from a Roger Corman-movie It Conquered the World (about giant cucumbers who come from Venus and attack Earth) on the cover of the CD and the weird and wonderful names of the 21 songs on the CD (my favourite is Senator Everett McKinley and his version of "Wild Thing", but most of the songs are great like "The Rubber Room", "Four Hairy Policemen" and "Bumble Bee '65). Unfortunately, there is absolutely no information about the origins of these songs or the excerpts from the '50's and '60's Z-movies which appear on the disk (but the booklet does contain some great advertisements from those years, for example "The Vibra-finger: instant relief in the needed places! Buy it now! I wonder if there is anyone out there who could tell me something about the origins of these songs? Willem "Aloha" van Schaik e-mail: dydm6113@bureau.ucc.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Clark" Subject: (exotica) Jimmy Smith "monster" / mono mixes / barbarella / lalo Date: 06 Jul 1997 18:03:25 +0100 Hi Groovesters Coupla things I thought I'd add to ... bag@hubris.net wrote: Some time ago, an EXOTICA listserv member asked about MONSTER, the album by Jimmy Smith and Oliver Nelson. Some responses came back and I promised details WHEN I could find my album. FINALLY, it has happened. One of the questions:whats it look like? Acy Lehman designed the gatefold cover with the cover photo by John Henry. Inside there is a photograph shot from above of Jimmy Smith at his Organ talking with (presumably) Oliver Nelson. (snip) Yep - great album - those Jimmy Smith Verve albums are amongst my faves ... two other goodies are "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf" from 63 or 64, not a duff cut on it, and I think (I'm not near my record collection right now) Oliver Nelson did the big band sounds on that one too. Recommended! And another slightly strange cover there too ... And of course the seminal "The Cat" from 64 ? with the tremendous Lalo Schifrin arranging. Grooooooo - veeee! And Then I think the example of the Beatles is excellent, in fact I was thinking the very same thing regarding those early Beatles albums with the instruments on one side and the vocals on the other when writing my post (boy what were the EMI engineers thinking back then????) (snip) The mono mixes of the early Beatles albums were issued on CD, they being thought of as the definitive versions. This is probably the first two or three or so albums. AFAIK in the early 60s when two-track was the norm, studios used to record the vocal on one track, the instruments on another so that in the mixdown the vocals could be added with extra "punch" rather than getting lost in the mix. So making a stereo master from the multitracks would result in vocals one side, instruments the other. Also in the UK we were kinda behind the States in taking up stereo - a good ten years or so I believe, so not till about 67 or 68 or so did stereo mixes perhaps become the priority rather than the mono. Some albums from the mid-late 60s differ quite a lot between stereo & mono versions rather than the mono just being a "mono-ized" version of the stereo - heres a few examples: Beatles "White Album" mono is quite diff from stereo (different song lengths, different edits &mixes) Pink Floyd "Piper at Gates" is remarkably different (Interstellar Overdrive in partic) Velvet Underground 1st album is actually better in mono IMHO - much punchier - track down an original Verve pressing if y'see it etc... Having said that, I recently got Ray Charles "Genius = Jazz + Soul" on CD, which dates from about 61, and it sounds totally excellent - tremendous accoustics. AND! Well, Barbarella was on British TV last night - the first time I'd actually watched it all the way through: what a movie! One nagging question - those whacked out guitar effects on the soundtrack MUST be Vinnie Bell, mustn't they? I have the soundtrack LP: plenty of kooky sleeve notes but there's no listing of who actually played the music! Does anyone know what the line-up was? all I know is it was The Glitterhouse - I don't have a lineup listed anyplace but they made some other albums too including one with a silvery mirrorized cover (which I don't have). Great film & album - still supposed to be coming out on CD one of these days (months? years?). and then... I recently found a sealed copy of a 12" single 45 rpm stereo record from 1976 by Lalo Schifrin which is a "Disco Mix" of (side 1) Jaws and (side 2) Flamingo and Quiet Village (yes, Baxter goes disco!). Apparently these tracks are from an lp entitled Black Widow. Is anyone familiar with this one? Vaguely ... it came out on on CTI (Creed Taylor's label). I had it but sold it a while back., IMHO not one of LS's best. But there'll be those who differ... Set the controls for the heart of the sun! Phil phil-c@dircon.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jjones@richnet.nospam.net (John Jones) Subject: (exotica) Finds Date: 05 Jul 1997 21:02:28 GMT =46ound a pretty good batch today, all for $1 apiece. Heino--"Mein Vaterland" Peters International PLD 7053 Stereo Breaks the ice at parties. Dick Hyman--"Basilian Impressions" Command RS 911 SD Stereo Action Stereo--"Adventures in stereo sound effects" Columbia/Harmony HS 11043 Stereo Charles Paul--"Console Magic" RCA LSP-1668 Stereo Napoleon XIV--"They're Coming To Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa!" Warner Brothers 1661 Mono The Astronauts--"Everything Is A-Ok!" RCA LPM-2782 Mono Terry Snyder--"Mister Percussion" United Artists/Ultra Audio WWS 8500 Stereo Matin Denny--"Exotica Volume II" Liberty LRP 3077 Mono Hans Wurman--"The Moog Strikes Bach.." RCA Red Seal LSC-3125 Mono Walter Carlos--"The Well-Tempered Synthesizer" Columbia MS 7286 Stereo Lenny Dee--"Relaxin'" Decca DL 74946 Stereo I'll have plenty to tape over the long weekend. John -- No one will ever know exactly why or how, but by the year 2050, everyone born in Baltimore will look=20 exactly like Ernest Borgnine. Drew Friedman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark A. Rosati" Subject: Re: (exotica) on the high road with... Date: 05 Jul 1997 11:47:48 -0400 R.Preston Peek wrote: > >If you haven't heard, Charles Kuralt has departed on that road trip > in the sky. > >(Does this play out the traditional "series of three" superstition?) > > That's what I had thought, but he actually makes four (Brian Keith > committed suicide about a week ago). > > Does this mean there are two more coming (for back-to-back series of > three)??? I thought Charles Kuralt makes five... Brian Keith, Robert Mitchum, Jimmy Stewart, and Jacques Cousteau. So maybe we are in a back-to-back series? Wondering who's next, Mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: (exotica) on the high road with... Date: 06 Jul 1997 14:18:01 -0500 Mark A. Rosati wrote: > I thought Charles Kuralt makes five... Brian Keith, Robert Mitchum, > Jimmy Stewart, and Jacques Cousteau. > > So maybe we are in a back-to-back series? Well, there's Betty Shabazz, wife of Malcolm X, who suffered burns from a fire set by her nephew before dying of injuries. So that makes at least six public figures recently deceased. kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark A. Rosati" Subject: Re: (exotica) on the high road with... Date: 06 Jul 1997 15:00:21 -0400 kevin king wrote: > Mark A. Rosati wrote: > > > I thought Charles Kuralt makes five... Brian Keith, Robert Mitchum, > > Jimmy Stewart, and Jacques Cousteau. > > > > So maybe we are in a back-to-back series? > > Well, there's Betty Shabazz, wife of Malcolm X, who suffered burns > from a fire set by her nephew before dying of injuries. So that > makes at least six public figures recently deceased. Didn't I read that actor William Hickey of Prizzi's Honor fame, passed away recently? Is there a trend??? Mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: action+@sirius.com (Ursula Blind) Subject: Re: (exotica) on the high road with... Date: 06 Jul 1997 12:33:35 -0800 >Didn't I read that actor William Hickey of Prizzi's Honor fame, passed >away recently? >Is there a trend??? > >Mark Well, yes there is a trend here. A lot of the people we consider cultural icons are getting OLD. And unfortunately, death seems to be inevitable, especially as people age. Meanwhile, there are more recognizable public figures currently alive than ever before, due to years of media saturation combined with increased lifespans in general. So brace yourselves for many, many more "significant" deaths in the not-distant future. --Ursula # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lroberts@oacis.com (Laurence Roberts) Subject: (exotica) Queer to the Core Date: 06 Jul 1997 13:39:50 -0700 There's a recent CD boot reissue called "Queer the the Core" It's a reissue of 3 Camp records singles (I'd Rather Fight Than Swish, Mixed Nuts, and the Ballad of the Camping Woodcutter) and the Teddy & Darrel Darrel "You Silly Savage" LP, along with some stuff from the Pearl Box Revue double album. I'd be interested in getting in touch with whoever did this boot but there isn't information on it. Personally, if I was booting this stuff, I'd put on my address, because the original records don't have any contact info on them anyway and I'd be interested to see who contacted me. The liner notes of the CD also omit mention of the "Queen is in the Closet" LP and incorrectly states that the Pearl Box LP isn't listed in price guides (it's in that recent comedy price guide.) Larry-bob lroberts@oacis.com http://www.io.com/~larrybob ~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: amycamus@interport.net Subject: (exotica) Make that 7 Date: 06 Jul 1997 20:49:31 -0400 (EDT) >Mark A. Rosati wrote: > >> I thought Charles Kuralt makes five... Brian Keith, Robert Mitchum, >> Jimmy Stewart, and Jacques Cousteau. >> >> So maybe we are in a back-to-back series? > >Well, there's Betty Shabazz, wife of Malcolm X, who suffered burns >from a fire set by her nephew before dying of injuries. So that >makes at least six public figures recently deceased. One of the remaining "little Rascals" died in NYC a couple of weeks ago and I saw it on the news today. I think she played Darla. Cherie "amycamus" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Randall Rothenberg Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Lounge Attack!! Date: 06 Jul 1997 21:41:33 -0400 (EDT) Oh, come on, Ashley. Efforts at explaining sociological phenomena -- and music choices, as all consumption choices that extend beyond the personal to the group, are sociological phenomena -- are totally legitimate. And people love to participate in that exercise. There was nary a person to whom I spoke during my research on the Esquire piece, yourself included, who didn't speculate on the "why" of Lounge's appeal. As I told Michele (in an e-mail that didn't get posted to the conference because I screwed it up), the fact is that Lounge *is* a scene, and *is* more than the music. You yourself participate in that scene, by showing up at Scott and Jack's In Hi-Fi. Now, your reasons may differ from the scores of others who go there; and their reasons may differ from the thousands who go to The 999999s and tha Lava Lounge and Mr. Phat's and the various clubs in Austin and Minneapolis and other places. But the fact is, something -- some set of reasons -- is drawing people to public places to share publicly their appreciation for a form (actually, a collection of forms) of music. So to say that it's "just the music" seems a bit specious to me. Instead of scorning the people who dress up and go to The 999999s; instead of asserting that it's "just the music" that draws people to Bar D'O (when they could just as easily stay home to listen to "the music," which after all is recorded, not live) why not participate in an honest exploration of what leads to a revival of a formerly discredited cultural form? Take it a step further: if the "trust fund kids" at The 999999s are so different from you and your friends at In Hi-Fi, what then draws them to the same form(s) of music? And if dressing for the part is such a horrible transgression, how then do you distinguish between, say, Scott and Jack's costuming for their DJ roles and the costuming of the kids at Mr. Phat's? I'm not asking to be contentious, but because I think these are honestly interesting questions. Dick Hebdige dealt with similar issues in his remarkable book "Subcultures," about the original UK punk scene. I recommend it to everyone on this list as a preliminary to serious discussions of the Lounge phenomenon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aj Subject: (exotica) Re Jaymz Bee Date: 07 Jul 1997 00:11:11 +0000 On Sat. July 5, Jason Tucker Wrote: > I just picked up this disc used at a local shop, and I have fallen in love > with it! I was biking downtown and started it on my discman, and almost > fell off my bike when I heard the cover of "Safety Dance" and then when I > heard "You Oughta Know" I was completely dumbfounded by this group. I've > played it for all my friends, who are lacking in appreciation, but, oh, > well. > > My question is what else has been done by Jaymz Bee and the Royal Jelly > Orchestra? Do they tour much? I've seen the last 30 seconds of the video > for "You Oughta Know" on the Box, but that's all. I believe Jaymz Bee and the Royal Jelly Orchestra are from Toronto, or at least I've heard that the lead singer is heavily involved in shaping the Toronto Lounge scene. About two months ago, he was the principal force behind a successful cocktail evening at one of the major hotels downtown. Despite these efforts, he seems to have a somewhat less than positive reputation amongst those closer to the scene in Toronto, though I'm not sure why. He also seems to get a fair bit of bad press and I have also seen a few critical reviews of his music on this list. Must be something interesting there to irk people in the way he does. Aj # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Lounge Attack!! Date: 07 Jul 1997 02:47:33 -0500 In agreement with Randall, I have to admit that, like a number of others, when first joining this list the question of 'why trend' was one of the first I typed in. Then, and on other occasions, thoughtful responses followed, usually non-judgemental. I think a problem arises though with the generalizations... Again, like some others on the list, I've never really considered myself to be part of the lounge scene and believe it or not, am into the music only. The little bit of lounge clubbing I've done has not been anything special, and I typically head for the live indie/post-punk/future ambient 'scene' when going out (unless it's retro '70's in which case I'm not there primarily for music). So I listen to this stuff mainly while working or in the car where I might hear a negative viewpoint on NPR and wonder whether my musical tastes are appropriate for my lifestyle. Then I put my wig back on, light up a spliff and pop in a tape of Les Paul & Mary Ford on my way to the monster truck rally. ...well... I pop in a tape. tee hee, kevin -listening to an audio dub from 'President's Analyst': "I was right, I'm not paranoid!... They're all spies!!!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: Re: (exotica) Abstract Female Vocals and the Salsoul Orchestra Date: 07 Jul 1997 12:50:26 +0100 > I can't get enough of Yma Sumac, Bas Sheva, and Leda Annest, but can't seem > to find any other LPs with abstract vocals. Way way way back when I used to > read the mailing list archive after my computer class I remember a thread > about a "Bas Sheva-esque" advant-garde suite with a woman snorting and > grunting and generally making far-out noises. I think the whole suite was > used on a documentary on PBS back in the 70s. Does any of this ring a bell? This wouldn't be "Visages" by Luciano Berio, with Cathy Berberian screaming, yelping, laughing, moaning, groaning, etc. backed by fizzling electronic noises? She also did a piece called...um, "Stripsody" (which she wrote) which was a kind of montage of cartoon noises for solo voice. I can't swear to the title, but I heard it on the radio a while back. Pretty good. Then, of course, there's Yoko Ono... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) farther into farrakhan Date: 07 Jul 1997 13:03:29 -0400 (EDT) I spoke to Skippy White, Boston's premier R&B record shop dealer (since 1961). He says that Louis Farrakhan recorded under his name...Gene Walcott, also as The Calypso Charmer, and as Calypso Gene..Skippy hangs one 45 in his shop by L.F..."White Man's Heaven Is Black Man's Hell"...Additionally Skippy said he used to "run the board" for L.F. at WILD-AM, Boston in the late 6T's..I asked Skippy to comment on the type of program LF did. Skippy replied, "Burn Baby Burn....."-----Jimmy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Top 5 DID's Date: 07 Jul 1997 19:02:46 +0200 i'm still late, i'm about 15 digest behind! exotica Top 5 DID's, without duplicating other's too much: 1 Ferrante & Teicher: Dynamic twin piano's 2 Richard Hayman: Electric latin love machine 3 Kai Winding: Mondo cane #2 4 Astrud Gilberto: Look to the rainbow 5 Airto: Fingers If Captain Jack would allow to bring them in ;-) these cd's would make it too: 1 v/a: The Easy Project 1 2 Walter Wanderley: Boss of the bossa nova 3 Perrey & Kingsley: The essential 4 TV soundtrack: Twin Peaks 5 Peter Thomas a non-exotica Top 5 DID's would be: 1 Pink Floyd: Relics 2 Genesis: Seconds out (double life) 3 Sonic Youth: Daydream nation 4 Roxy Music: Viva! 5 Television Personalities: And don't the kids just love it Johan Dada@dma.be = Dada@bewoner.dma.be --- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Dark Shadows Date: 07 Jul 1997 16:25:12 +0200 i LOVED the TV soundtrack from "Dark Shadows" with music by Roger Cobert. i saw that rhino released a cd with music from the _movies_ "House Of Dark Shadows/Night Of Dark Shadows", but their site doesn't mention if that music is by the same composer. anyone knows? (quote from the rhino page) The never-before-available soundtracks to both early '70s M-G-M movies (based on the popular horror-filled '60s/'70s TV soap opera) on one bone-chilling CD! 72401 CD 15.98/CS Tracks: House Of Dark Shadows- Main Title (Dark Shadows Theme) The Search For David Willie At The Mausoleum Stalking Daphne David Slips In Another Victim Barnabas Meets The Family A Visit To The Old House Carolyn & Barnabas A Party At Collinwood Josette's Music Box Attack On Carolyn Willie Escorts Carolyn Home Dr. Hoffman & Professor Stokes The Abandoned Swimming Pool Carolyn Returns The Old House Basement Todd's Escape & Carolyn's Staking (extended version) Dr. Hoffman Confronts Barnabas Willie's Concern The Collinsport Inn Betrayal Professor Stokes & Barnabas A Walk With Maggie Barnabas' Rampage (extended version) The Collins History (Josette's Theme) Maggie's Abduction Jeff's Expedition The Monastery At St. Eustace Island The Wedding Finale End Title/House Of Dark Shadows Supplemental Material- David's Radio (extended version) Night Of Dark Shadows- Main Title (Love Theme From Night Of Dark Shadows) Arrival At Collinwood Quentin's Daydreaming (Quentin's Theme) Nightmare In The Past The Taking Of Angelique Gerard's Attack Carlotta's Revelation Quentin Meditates Tracy Investigates The Tower Room Quentin & Tracy (Love Theme From Night Of Dark Shadows) Angelique's Assault Terror At The Pool House The Possession Of Quentin (Quentin's Theme) Resisting Angelique The Chase Searching For Carlotta Departure; End Title (Love Theme From Night Of Dark Shadows) Supplemental Material- Love Theme From Night Of Dark Shadows (unused version) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lroberts@oacis.com (Laurence Roberts) Subject: (exotica) Farrakhan Date: 07 Jul 1997 10:39:38 -0700 See http://www.goodstuff.prodigy.com/Lists/blackexperience/9606/0072.html for a transcript of an NPR piece on Farrakhan's early musical career. It was broadcast on the May 29, 1996 Morning Edition. Unfortunately, because only "news" stories are in the Realaudio NPR archives, you can't listen to it there. Larry-bob lroberts@oacis.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Java Man Subject: (exotica) Find Your Hawaiian Name Date: 07 Jul 1997 14:12:44 0000 Laimana sez: Visit ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: NPR Transcripts Date: 07 Jul 1997 14:51:21 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-07 14:38:40 EDT, Larry-bob writes: << See http://www.goodstuff.prodigy.com/Lists/blackexperience/9606/0072.html for a transcript of an NPR piece on Farrakhan's early musical career. It was broadcast on the May 29, 1996 Morning Edition. >> Is there a transcript available on the NPR program that slams exotica/lounge? Regards, Robert Brooks (aka Tiki Bob) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@pop.tiac.net (Br. Cleve) Subject: (exotica) Soothing Sounds Review in BB Date: 07 Jul 1997 15:23:08 -0400 Here's the text of Billboard's review, which ran in this week's (July 5) issue: RAYMOND SCOTT Soothing Sounds For Baby, Vols. 1-3 original producer: Raymond Scott Reissue Producer: Gert-Jan Blom Basta Audio Visuals 30-90464, 30-90465, 30-90466 Composer/bandleader/electronics pioneer Raymond Scott's three-album series of music for babies showcases the tender side of the late genius, who is best known for penning many of the jazzy tunes that animated the Warner Bros. cartoons in the mid-20th century. Somewhat of a misnomer, these early-'60s releases are neither "soothing" nor particularly appropriate for babies (each of the three titles is aimed at a different six-month age bracket, up to 18 months). What the albums are is astoundingly ahead-of-their-time examples of inspired and impeccably recorded electronic music. Predating by more than a decade such innovators as Brian Eno and Kraftwerk, Scott's work exhibits impressive sophistication, both conceptually and in terms of the performances, which were probably made on a variety of early electronic instruments, including the Electronium--a keyboardless synthesizer that Scott invented. Originally released on Epic Records, these three rare albums are now available for the first time on CD through the Netherlands-based Basta label. Contact: basta@xs4all.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Taylor Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: NPR Transcripts Date: 07 Jul 1997 15:45:44 -0400 >Is there a transcript available on the NPR program that slams >exotica/lounge? > >Regards, >Robert Brooks (aka Tiki Bob) > Lexis-Nexis, if you have access to it, has some NPR programs transcribed. I'm not sure about this one. Tim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@pop.tiac.net (Br. Cleve) Subject: Re: (exotica) Abstract Female Vocals and the Salsoul Orchestra Date: 07 Jul 1997 16:26:27 -0400 about this thread - >>I remember a thread about a "Bas Sheva-esque" advant-garde suite with a >>woman snorting and >> grunting and generally making far-out noises. >This wouldn't be "Visages" by Luciano Berio, with Cathy Berberian >screaming, yelping, laughing, moaning, groaning, etc. backed by >fizzling electronic noises? It could also be "Patty Waters Sings" on ESP-Disc, from around '65 or so. The second side of that LP is the epic "Black Is The Color of My True Loves Hair", with Ms Waters schreeching the word 'black' over and over. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dfrisby@mgm.com (Doug Frisby) Subject: (exotica) Irritainment CD Date: 07 Jul 1997 12:51:13 -0700 I saw a copy of a CD at Tower Records from Irritainment Records. Can't remember the name. Perhaps this has been discussed before; excuse me if it has. Anyway, it's a part II of a series of CD compilations that has different artists perform the same song. On THIS CD, the first 10 songs are different versions of "Quiet Village", the second 10 songs are versions of "Taboo" (I think) and the third 10 songs are versions of "Caravan". The artists doing their versions include Ferrante & Teicher, The Three Suns, Hawaiian Brass, etc.. I remember alot of talk from people wanting to do this sort of thing on the list. Apparently, someone beat you all to it. It sounds like a great CD to buy, but goes for a steep 27 bucks. Does anyone have info on this such as the other songs in the series and whether this is a bootleg with crappy sound or not. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Doug # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: (exotica) Irritainment CD Date: 07 Jul 1997 15:07:40 -0600 > > I saw a copy of a CD at Tower Records from Irritainment Records. Can't > remember the name. Perhaps this has been discussed before; excuse me > if it has. It has. It is called "The Exotic Trilogy". You are describing Volume 2 which came out about 3 months ago. It is distributed through Staalplaat in Holland. It is put together by the KBZ, who are from Berlin. Volume 1 came out about 2 years ago. I think they are both fab CDs. There are some really wild and obscure versions of "Quiet Village", "Taboo" and "Caravan". And they are on the CD 7 times each in that order, all by different artists. It is not on Irritainment Records. It is a labelless label. > It sounds like a great CD to buy, but goes for a steep 27 bucks. Does > anyone have info on this such as the other songs in the series and > whether this is a bootleg with crappy sound or not. It is recorded from vinyl so some of the tracks are a bit crackly. Officially, I think it is a bootleg. But I know that mechanical royalities are paid to the publishers. The first volume also has these three tracks repeated 7 times in the above order. Apparently they are working on 5 more volumes - each with these three trax on it as far as I know. Hope that helps. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Abstract Female Vocals and the Salsoul Orchestra Date: 07 Jul 1997 17:27:49 -0400 > > I can't get enough of Yma Sumac, Bas Sheva, and Leda Annest, but can't seem > > to find any other LPs with abstract vocals. After following this thread for a while, I've suddenly remembered a couple of other artists who may be of interest. They're both more avant garde than exotica, but definitely exotic. Joan La Barbara is from the very serious avant garde school. I have her 1976 album, "Voice Is The Original Instrument" (Wizard Records), a fully solo recording of a live performance at University Art Museum, Berkeley, CA. The tracks on side 1 are best described as technical experiments or exercises. The liner notes describe the techniques and effects she is experimenting with in great detail. "Circular Song" employs a form of circular breathing. She sounds like a siren (not the mythical type) a lot of the time. "Voice Piece: One-Note Internal Resonance Investigation" is kind of like Mongolian throat singing. Side 2 features one long piece, "Vocal Extensions", on which she adds electronic processing to her "extended" singing. She says, "The equipment I use includes a phase shifter, pitch modulator and echo unit, to shape a sound fabric based on the natural rhythmic flow of thought." Parts of it sound surprisingly similar to the Barron's music for "Forbidden Planet"! Ursula Dudziak (I may have her last name mispelled) is more in the avant jazz groove. I don't have any of her records and unfortunately can't remember any of the people she worked with, but I used to hear her on a college radio station regularly. She did a sort of spaced-out kind of scatting, often using an echoplex. As I recall, it was pretty cool -- maybe in a sort of mid-70's Euro-spacy Terje Rypdal kinda bag. Does anyone know more about her? m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Reading Subject: (exotica) Lalo Schifrin's "Black Widow" Date: 07 Jul 1997 16:09:51 -0700 >Vaguely ... it came out on on CTI (Creed Taylor's label). I had it but sold >it a while back., IMHO not one of LS's best. I would have to agree that it's not one of his best, BUT Sony is putting it out on CD anyway. Judge for yourself on August 26, or better yet, track down the vinyl for a couple bucks for before blowing 15 on the CD. Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lar E. Warner" Subject: Re: (exotica) on the high road with... Date: 07 Jul 1997 17:04:12 -0700 (PDT) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TothMD@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Abstract Female Vocals/Salsoul Orchestra Date: 07 Jul 1997 20:08:12 -0400 (EDT) Jessica Cameron wrote: >read the mailing list archive after my computer class I remember a thread >about a "Bas Sheva-esque" advant-garde suite with a woman snorting and >grunting and generally making far-out noises. I think the whole suite was >used on a documentary on PBS back in the 70s. Does any of this ring a bell? I bet this was Cathy Berberian. There are apparently more recordings of her, but I have her on this Berio/Cage/Mimaroglu "Electronic Music" LP on Turnabout. This 21:04 piece, "Visage" by Luciano Berio is kind of like a radio drama with bizarre electronic sound effects, and has this woman snorting, screaching, moaning, giggling, and uttering nonsense syllables. It sounds like the soundtrack to a Doctor Who episode in which everyone is rendered mute except for this savage alien woman whom no one can understand. Pretty amazing, actually. >On a different note (lame music pun from tin-eared old me) ^_^, I was >thrilled to see my beloved Salsoul Orchestra (salsa + soul = salsoul) If you don't have this, your new pursuit in life is to track down a copy of (or convince a label do reissue a CD of) the Salsoul album "World Without Words" by Silvetti. I'd describe the sound as "Discovel." True 70s disco still kinda makes my skin crawl, but I *LOVE* this stuff, which is a whacked disco-flavored 70s easy listening sound with an Esquivellian chorus of wordless vocalists. A friend tells me the record used to sell for $700 in disco collectors circles until a sealed case of them was found. Who knows what it sells for now. I've still never seen a copy and only have a tape a friend gave me. (There's a Salsoul follow-up album, Spring Rain, which I found, and found too run-of-the-mill disco to keep; There's also a live album out there.) Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com TothMD@aol.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TothMD@aol.com Subject: (exotica) What "exotica" "represents" (was "Lounge Attacks") Date: 07 Jul 1997 21:02:35 -0400 (EDT) Ashley Warren wrote: >Back in the late '70s and early '80s I was a huge punk rock fan, a fan of the >English stuff and not so much the American bands. Does this mean I was That's something I haven't seen addressed since those RE/Search books, and is certainly true around Ohio: most people into this kind of music I've encountered have or had some interest or involvement in the punk scene. And most of them STILL listen to punk, new and "vintage," AS WELL AS "lounge." Psychoanalyze THAT you media hounds!!! Many folks I meet just seem interested more interested than most in music and pop culture in general, but tend to be quite well-versed in lots of kinds of music. >That's kind of what lounge is all about. It's the social aspect of hanging >out with a group of friends listening to music that in comparison to the >often jagged, discordant, repetitive , formula sound of much rock music today I hate formula, but jagged, discordant, and repetitive may not necessarily be bad things. :-) I for one still love the punk and new wave sounds, as well as some folk, orchestral, shoegazer, gosh, a LOT of different music from two-months-old to two-centuries-old. But I'm a *sucker* for a good pop hook, and as such am highly succeptible to stuff like Squeeze, The Plimsouls, Nick Lowe, etc. >is amazingly fresh, well-crafted and highly melodic. And the funny thing is >these people whio like this stuff are amongst the most learned musically >cognizant people around, whose record collections span several eras and >several genres. (I just thought I'd include that because it reinforces MY opinions ;-) ) Cleve also made a comment about folks who only want to listen to what was popular when they were in high school/college. In my more judgmental moments, I consider people who have closed themselves to new cultural things (e.g. music) have pretty much ceased learning or growing in most areas of their life. Example: I've got a friend from high school who used to have really adventurous tastes in music. Now she's basically just listening to the same old new wave stuff, watching the same kinds of movies and television, and on a married mother treadmill, without any further intellectual or personal growth. I've got another friend (a married father) who's all but given up on new/different music, but his investigation into unusual film and literature mirrors a general sense of exploration that can be seen in other aspects of his continued growth as a person. And it should probably go without saying on this list, but when I say "new" music it's what's "new" to you, not what was released in the past year. I'd propose that kind of curiosity and growth continued past graduation is a probable trait of the kind of people on this list that actively seek out different, worthwhile kinds of music. Yeah, I also know some music collectors with the maturity of people half their age, but that aside, has anyone seen that sense-of-discovery-and-growth aspect addressed in the press's demographic profile of a "lounger?" I guess it goes along with the "cultural archaeologist" angle proposed in the RE/Search books. But Ashley's statement "that's kind of what lounge is all about" is an interesting one. Way back in the bygone Desert Island Disc Flame-War days of this list, someone said that Bob Dylan and Van Morrison represented everything against which he stood for. (While not the topic I'm initiating, I *am* also kind of curious just WHAT they represent that's so offensive) Just what DOES "exotica," "lounge," or whatever you wanna call it REPRESENT? When there are no lyrics, what is the content and what is it saying? Does it truly have a message or philosophy in and of itself or is it just "what it means to me?" Frankly, it doesn't *mean* MUCH to ME personally. It's sometimes dreamy, sometimes punchy, texturally interesting, and a ton of fun to listen to and collect, but I'm not deriving any substantial meaning for myself out of the music. (I'm open to any content I might be missing out on, though, so speak your mind if you're finding it) It's simply a good time. From reading comments of exotica fans in magazine interviews and on the Net, I've gathered THAT is also the message of the music for some: sort of a generalized hedonism, that there really ISN'T any real meaning in life except the pursuit of pleasure and fun. Maybe "boink boink" and "zu-zu-zu" is the verbal summation of existence. I, for one, am pretty fond of language and its ability to communicate more specific complex ideas and emotions. While I immensely enjoy lots of instrumental stuff, I'm probably still more drawn to music with lyrics that can convey something more conceptual and emotive when paired with evocative instrumentation. I could listen to "Fever & Smoke" and "Zounds! What Sounds" incessantly, but at the end of the road, which had more of an impact on the less superficial areas of myself, those kind of records or something like Sugar's "Copper Blue" or T-Bone Burnett's "Criminal Under My Own Hat?" Or to really zero in, how about ComEd's "I, Swinger" or the pre-ComEd band Christmas's album "Vortex" -- the former is easily the more fun, more sophisticated/adventurous/original musically, and more skillfully played/composed of the two; but the latter really resonates on several deep emotional and philosophical levels AND has some really catchy tunes -- which one in fifteen or fifty years will have made the more substantial impact on Michael Toth? Time will tell... So, folks, it's essay time. Answer the following: "What is lounge/exotica 'about' and what does it mean to me?" (My own answer summed up: "Not much, but it IS a lot of fun!") You have until the end of class. No flame wars on people's opinions or beliefs here either. :-) Introspectively (and verbosely) yours, Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com TothMD@aol.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jessica Cameron Subject: (exotica) Non-abstract female vocals Date: 07 Jul 1997 20:31:26 -0400 First of all, many thanks to everyone who responded to my "abstract female vocals" posting. ^_^ I'm pretty sure that the record I asked about is "Visage," but I appreciate the other recommendations--more stuff to add to my 20 page want list! Anyway, I just made myself a tape of my favorite songs (yeah, I finally got that speaker fixed--so if you ever wanted to trade tapes with me before and got turned away, write me!) and I was thinking--"I really like vocals--I should start buying them more often." So far I've tried Lainie Kazan (her self-titled LP) and Edie Adams' "Behind those Swingin' Doors." They both have that va-va-voom wa-wa-wa type sound that everyone's so crazy about. Lainie's "Peel Me a Grape" is a classic, as is Edie's up-to-date "Frankie and Johnny" (with new lyrics about drive-ins and twisting). My question is, what other belt-it-out/Las Vegas lady singers are worth listening to? I also like the DeCastro sisters (anyone see them on Headline news last week?), the Clark sisters, the Barry sisters, L:inda Lawson, etc. Thanks for any suggestions, Jessica ^_^ PS--Notice how I avoided the word "lounge?" ^_- It's hard to do when you're talking about lounge singers! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark koldys Subject: (exotica) Drasnin on CD Date: 07 Jul 1997 21:50:10 -0400 I have the Dionysius CD of the Robert Drasnin exotica LP, but the other day I saw in a record store what appears to be the same recording on Pickwick. This was just $5.99 and it claimed to be a 20-bit digital transfer from the original master tapes. Since the Dionysius was taken from an LP copy, the Pickwick would seem to be a real find. Has anyone heard it, or does anyone know anything about it? I'd hate to buy it (even for $6) only to find that the tapes were mono, the transfer was bad, etc... mkoldys@rust.net "Sometimes jewel found in ashes." -- Charlie Chan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Sando Subject: Re: (exotica)female vocals/Lounge Attack Date: 07 Jul 1997 18:54:57 -0700 At 08:31 PM 7/7/97 -0400, Jessica Cameron wrote: >My question is, >what other belt-it-out/Las Vegas lady singers are worth listening to? I just bought an Eydie Gorme collection that's all over the map but I swear it's worth it for her singing 'I Feel So Spanish'. Steve and Eydie were (are) pretty camp when they sing together (and for me this is a good thing) but they both had really great voices and when they concentrated, they were great. there's a definate taste issue but I love them. Another belter is Joanie Sommers. She made teen records and sang with Shelly Manne and Bobby Troup. She's so perky you might lose your lunch but she had her moments. The CDs out are expenisve or poor on the whole but you see her Lps alot. My favorite is called 'The Most' with a swell version of 'Just Squeeze Me'. Not at all what you're talking about, but for pure belting pleasure, no one beats Merman. I've been listening to the cast album of Gypsy lately and she's wild. 'Roses's Turn' could be on the Passions album in the sense that it's a gal out of control. Ethel was almost masculine in her attack! Sorry to ramble but I feel like we're on my turf! While I'm here, I thought I'd add a thought to the Lounge Attack discussion. I know for me, I've been listening to this music for years and have been mocked by mainstream rock pals and family. I decided quite young that rock had played itself out. Now 20 years later some putz with a cigar in a bar is "discovering" that my music is cool and it's making news. I don't know what kind of coverage would make me happy but I can just say it's weird what's happening. On the one hand, I feel sort of validated for following what I loved, and on the other I think, "Where the hell were you when I was talking about this music as recently as five years ago?". I dont know what I'm saying but I understand extreme feelings on both sides of the fence. * * * Steve Sando, Coconut Grove Media PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 vox: 415 648 5803, fax: 415 282 4394, email:steve@mrlucky.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Sam Phipps Date: 07 Jul 1997 19:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Going through my video tapes over the weekend, I came across the credits for Reel Wild Cinema. Their theme music, which fits the exotica realm nicely, is from Sam Phipps, who supposedly records on House of Funk Records. Anyone know of this musician, the music or the label? I really like the older exotica, but its great to have people like Oranj Symphonette, Combustible Edison and others doing a modern take on it. I can't say I like everything I hear made in the name of SABPM, exotica or lounge...but I can't say I liked EVERYTHING Enoch Light, Les Baxter or Arthur Lyman did either. For the older music, we are collecting a limited supply...but after we have it all through reissues or originals, we will want more. We have to support those who continue doing new and innovative things in music and yet also continue to make their sounds fun to listen to. So who are the good musicians of today that continue the fun, wacky and listenable sounds of the 50's and 60's? I have only limited clues. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: What exotica means to me. (500 words or less?) Date: 07 Jul 1997 23:21:31 -0400 (EDT) Michael Toth posted an excellent treatise which could be titled: "What Exotic Means To Me" and requested that others on the list do the same. I have corresponded with Michele regarding some of the "attacks" on Loung= e. With her permission I am posting two our most recent correspondences. T= his gets a little long so skip forward to your next email or get a cup of cof= fee. Subj: Re: (exotica) Lounge Attack!! Michele,=20 In a message dated 97-07-03 10:38:16 EDT, you write << In my opinion, b= y ascertaining that those into Lounge are fulfilling some=20 sort of psychological need, you have uncut the legitimacy of Lounge as a music culture or scene. I would like to think that people are into Loung= e music because it is simply great music. Do you understand where I am com= ing from? >> Yes Michele, I do know where you are coming from. Rothenberg's article w= as sprinkled with a little negativism and cynicism. I have read it a few ti= mes and each time it sounds less flattering. I personally think he did not do a good "survey" of the subject. He was = more intent on explaining the going on's with the East/West coast clubs/personalities he visited. In my opinion the Lounge revival (music = as well as suburban undertones) is far more represented in the individual h= omes v. the club scene. ABC Nightly News ran a human interest story on Lounge/Cocktail about 6 we= eks ago that made the people interested in Lounge look like a bunch of freaks. They interviewed some dressed up weirdoes at some organized lounge party= in NYC. (Note from RCB =96 I do not mean that people who dress up in period regalia are weirdoes, just that the ones in costume that they interviewed came off as being too bizarre to be considered normal - thus showing Loun= gers in a negative light.) Interestingly, you and I are the same age and I suspect that we think ali= ke. I was born in Nov, '61(Michele in =9262). I read a great article recent= ly that explained baby boomers (a group that I never really considered mysel= f a part of.) The article said that all people born between 1946 and 1966 ar= e boomers, but with two distinct sub-groups (cohorts). Basically, the article argues that the first sub-group was born between 1= 946 and 1956. They grew up in a time where there was this idea that a perfec= t society could exist. Later they were disillusioned by Vietnam. They stru= ggle still with the idea of a perfect world. The second group (of which you and I are a part) were born between 1956 a= nd 1966. Ever aware of Vietnam and social strife, this group is more cynica= l in their approach to life. We never really thought that a perfect society w= as attainable. I know I fit in this group very well. I think I like Lounge because of the reason you stated: <<. . .[the reas= on] I do like the music is because being born in 1962 and having not lived through the 1950's, I have romanticized, . . .>> I can definitely relate= . =20 I have the same experience with my spouse that you mentioned, my wife tolerates my music, only because she has no real music interests of her o= wn. She is amused at how I get so enthralled with my interest in Lounge/Exot= ica. Best of luck with your research. I don't know, I kind of like the fact t= hat I like something that lots (most) people don't know about. It makes it unique. Warm regards,=20 Robert Brooks P.S. Some of this letter may be of interest to the Exotica list members. Please email me back if you are not opposed to me adding a header and posting this to the list. RCB And her response: Subj: Re: (exotica) Lounge Attack!! In a message dated 97-07-03 15:27:13 EDT, you write: RCB: << Yes Michele, I do know where you are coming from. Rothenberg's article was sprinkled with a little negativism and cynicism. I have read= it a few times and each time it sounds less flattering. =20 I think he did not do a good "survey" of the subject. He was more intent= on explaining the going on's with the East/West coast clubs/personalities he visited. In my opinion the Lounge revival (music as well as suburban undertones) is far more represented in the individual homes v. the club scene.>> Michele: I didn't want to "attack" the guy but the way it starts out talking about the who's who and what they are wearing at the club - made= us sound like a bunch of superficial idiots - I don't know how much of that dribble was formula stylized stuff that almost all writers learn to use t= o set the mood for the reader - but it was damaging. The psych stuff later definitely undercut the music scene as a group of people truly appreciati= ve of a forgotten musical genre. =20 RCB: << ABC Nightly News ran a human interest story on Lounge/Cocktail a= bout 6 weeks ago that made the people interesting in Lounge look like a bunch = of freaks. The interviewed some dressed up weirdoes at some organized loung= e party in NYC.>> Michele: I'm sorry I missed that one - they (the news in general) used t= o do this all the time with punk music - it was funny to watch these kinds of pieces. =20 RCB: <> Michele: I was in contact with another list subscriber by phone - Paul a= nd he is an consultant on Ultra Lounge - I asked him what the demographics w= ere. He says he doesn't know. But he also is about our age. I don't know bu= t I bet if there was a survey, we'd find out that the vast majority of the tr= uly appreciative Lounge connoisseurs are in our age group. =20 RCB: <> Michele: If you talk to someone who was a kid during the 50's (I talk to= my ex-hippie artist friend at work) they'll tell you that it was really warp= ed in many ways - especially having to dive under their desks all the time f= rom the cold war threat of nuclear attack. =20 RCB: << The second group (of which you and I are a part) were born betwe= en 1956 and 1966. Ever aware of Vietnam and social strife, this group is mo= re cynical in their approach to life. We never really thought that a perfec= t society was attainable. I know I fit in this group very well.>> Michele: Well, this is the first time I've heard a good description of exactly how we end up fitting into the boomer category, because with such= a broad definition and such, I didn't really see how we could be in it, but this makes sense. I don't know that I ever thought in terms of "perfect society". I guess if I look back on my teenage years - disillusionment w= ith society and expectations was directly responsible for my need to get invo= lved with punk rock. But there may be all kinds of personal reasons as well l= ike my parents divorce, etc. I guess I will have to go through psychoanalysi= s to find out! =20 RCB: << I think I like Lounge because of the reason you stated: <<. . .= [the reason] I do like the music is because being born in 1962 and having not lived through the 1950's, I have romanticized, . . .>> =20 Michele: Well, for sure I think the reason our age group likes it is bec= ause it is a need to escape into the past - but that's only a small part of it= to be sure. I was brought up on old movies from the 1930's and 1940's to 19= 60's type stuff. I have been dressing retro since my punk years and I found t= hat the clothes I liked the best were coming from the late 50's and early 60'= s. The style of music, clothing, furnishings, etc. all fit together and I l= ike that period. I only found the music component when I found out about Lou= nge (prior to this I thought 1960's music was the Supremes, etc.) =20 RCB: <> Michele: I agree, this is one nice element to it - one reason punk was s= o neat was that it was small. It wouldn't seem so attractive if we had to = deal with every idiot getting into Lounge, but it could still happen. I guess= if it does, that will really test our devotion wont it? =20 - Michele I hope that Michele=92s and my exchange was of interest to the list membe= rs. I am always receptive to comments. Regards, Robert Brooks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) July Tiki Events Date: 07 Jul 1997 18:45:00 -0400 (EDT) July = Exotica San Francisco, Thursday July 24, 10 pm sharp. Frenchy brings swinging Lounge aural and visual excitement to Tiki News' next party at the Chameleon club with the punk ukulele duo of Pineapple Princess opening up you can expect to hear at least a couple Black Flag covers in a less familiar tone. Chameleon club is at 853 Valencia near 20th Street in the Mission. $3.00 ___________ Los Angeles Tiki Tones + Link Wray July 10, 10 pm House of Blues, Tiki Tones will be premiering material from their forthcoming lp "Suburban Savage" __________________ Los Angeles, Thurs/Fri. Encounter at LAX features free djing nights every Thursday with John Godin and Friday with Senor Amor while soaking up the most space age ambiance since man landed on the moon. 310/215-5151 _____________ Cocktails With Joey - A Ballet Noir for Swingers Sat, August 2, 8:00 pm The man who brought you the fabulous Coctials With Joey CD featuring Plas Johnson on sax, then brought the band to the stage at Exoticon '95 & later formed a small orchestra along with Skip Heller to perform a two-set evening-long tribute to Les Baxter, is back! Joey sparks up his 18 piece Mambo Noir Orchestra to back the LA Chamber Ballet. The LA Chamber Ballet & Raiford Rogers have collaborated withWoody Allen, Charlie Hayden, Roy Orbison among others. Your attendence is requested, and wear your finest threads, for this meeting of arts as Joey Altruda takes cocktail music to the stage! Luckman Fine Arts Complex 5151 State University Drive Los Angeles, CA 90032 Box Office: 213/343-6600 Tickets available via Ticketmaster ___________________ Lounge Era Film Noir July 17th -- THE NUTTY PROFESSOR (1963) -- With one swing of his magic potion, Jerry Lewis is transformed from the meek college professor into the God of Mutant Swingers -- Buddy Love! August 14th -- Super-Spy Double Feature -- THE SILENCERS - Dean Martin stars as Matt Helm, a James Bond with a wandering eye who never refuses a drink. OUR MAN FLINT (1966) -- Derek Flint (James Coburn) takes on the evil boys of GALAXY in a struggle for world domination and a food recipe for bouillabaise. August 28th -- BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S (1961) -- Audrey Hepburn is the ultimate swinger, HOlly Goloightly. Based on the book by Truman Capote. Music by Henry Mancini. Tix available through Theatix at (213) 466-1767. All screenings have sold out. I recommend purchasing in advance. The series is being co-presented by Lounge Magazine and Amerinan Cinematheque. ____________________ July 25, 7 - 10 pm [continuing through August] Tiki art opening at CACAO 11609 Santa Monica Bl, West L.A. Two years ago Tiki News premiered Tiki art here with a show by Charles Schneider (editor of "CAD, a hanbook for men") and SHAG. CACAOs latest show features the work of Crazy Al of Bone Productions, Mike Tempo (of Bonedaddys & Pink Floyd the Barber) & more. _____________________ Albequerque, New Mexico "South Seas Symposium, Easter Island in the Pacific Context" August 5 - 10, 1997 Thor Heyerdahl speaks! August 7 at this weeklong festival which includes opening poolside cocktail party, art exhibit of current Easter Island carvers, dance troupes, craft exhibitions, etc. This gala event is thrown by The Easter Island Foundation and Maxwell Museum of Anthropology, University of New Mexico. Call 800-552-4575; 505-343-9400 Email journey@farhorizon.com _________________________ It's Tiki time again in Sweden! By popular request (and the lack of good drinks in Stockholm bar's) the Tiki Room is back again! Presented by Stefan Kery and Jonas Svensson. Bump & grind for swinging bachelors and bachelorettes! Weird surprises, mystery guests and exotic performances! Hula maids and Mexican wrestlers! Surfers and landlubbers! Swinging live music by the Craftsmen! Bring your own Tiki mug or buy one in the bar! Okolemaluna! July 9th Show: The Tiki Room Hula maids exotic dance show + The surf films of Walt Philips! Action: Mexican wrestling (Lobo vs. The Big Kahuna)! Live music:The Craftsmen plays Quite Village and other hits live! DJ's: Stefan and Magnus! July 23rd Special Yngve Stoor night! Show: The Tiki Hula Maids + (hopefully a) Yngve Stoor Hawaii slide show, movies and special guest: Yngve Stoors wife (widow) live in person (this is not confirmed yet). Live music:Ebbe & Adam plays the exotic sounds of Yngve Stoor. DJs: Stefan & Max. The Tiki Room Wednesday July 9th and 23rd open 20.00 - 01.00 at Sjegres bar Timmermansgatan 24 T-Mariatorget Free admission all night!!! Brought to you by Subliminal Sounds & Stuff email: stefan@subliminal.se _______________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: (exotica) Exotica Needs Women ("Lounge Attacks") Date: 08 Jul 1997 01:00:31 -0400 >No flame wars on people's opinions or beliefs [If only Ike, Kennedy, Johnson, and Nixon had said THAT to Charlie.] I will always bow to Irwin Chusid for discovering the Duke of Iron's "The Big Bamboo" and playing that and many other great 78s on WFMU. That's just tremendous radio. That said: >"What is lounge/exotica 'about' and what does it mean to me?" Trend? Clothes? Identity? Thpppt. "Wear glasses if you need 'em" -- Webb Wilder, (on t-shirt beneath his suspenders AND a belt). *Lounge* is a new contrivance awkwardly describing the revival of non-ethnic pop. The specific music revived has been disproportionate, but possibly that's because it has been largely the inspiration of one talented but reactionary Irwin Chusid. The term "lounge" has no history in record collecting, and it is no more helpful than any of the established, time-proven terms for the many varieties of old pop and even jazz. BTW, all music is mood music, whether mushy or not. *Exotica* --always in style-- is the real or fake ethnic music (and art and culture) of lands beyond the Causasian diaspora. (Hold the whitebread and iceberg.) Unlike *lounge,* its very "foreign-ness" meant that the knob-twiddling geniuses at the studios often would leave some authentic musical character intact. Much of the best of it and tons of good-excellent stuff is not now and never will be available on any CD. 78s are ample precedent. Old records are the only repository of a lot of vital, compelling musical and cultural history. Dismiss it as sentimental, provincial museum fare if you must, but don't blame me if in 2,010 you're listening to an endless loop of Bob Marley at any of the 90,000 McDonald's in Honolulu. Diving into this area of record collecting means both endless home entertainment and a fascinating journey filled with strange, wonderful, and often hilarious correspondences with kind, kindred souls and scads of truly creative people. It's finding an anonymously donated tiki cup the day of your first tiki party. The downside is lots of work, tight organization, butting heads sometimes (often with friends over a record!), and facing utter incomprehension. Or maybe that's just me. Seen Ulee's Gold yet? It's the small triumphs, such as finally being able to share The Charmer's record with John Waters, and the chagrin of discovering a favorite *Sabu* record may not be by the master after all. Tape swapping. It's the feeling of "living large" on a little knowledge and a beggar's budget, or maybe stepping into a sappy old MGM movie. Music to paint by. It's that marvelous, favorite quote of Mr. Diamond's about feverish passion. ...is what it is... ...to me, Captain America The Wilds Scene: LPs * Sabu Home Page * Tiki Gallery http://www.charm.net/~wilds/ Email lists: new LP arrivals, web pages/sites, comps To receive, email: wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) What "exotica" "represents" (was "Lounge Attacks") Date: 08 Jul 1997 01:11:49 -0400 (EDT) << So, folks, it's essay time. Answer the following: "What is lounge/exotica 'about' and what does it mean to me?" (My own answer summed up: "Not much, but it IS a lot of fun!") You have until the end of class. No flame wars on people's opinions or beliefs here either. :-) >> What's Lounge about? Selling CD's. What does it mean to me? Nothing. Except having the occasional opportunity to score hard-to-find LP's which have been reissued (or bootlegged). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Micheleflp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) A belated intro and comment Date: 08 Jul 1997 02:20:38 -0400 (EDT) Hi, it is I, your fellow instigator: I thought I might explain a little bit about how I ended up in the "Lounge Scene" and give you my feeling about what I am seeing here in L.A. Well, I have been listening and reporting on what there is of the Lounge scene here in L.A. only since last fall in Flipside Fanzine. Flipside is a big punk fanzine (all you ex-punks probably already know all this) that is read worldwide. I started writing for it back in 1978 and quit in 1983 or so, because I hated "hardcore" punk. I dropped back into the scene after my bad marriage ended in 1991. I started writing for Flipside again in 1992. I am really a latecomer to Lounge because I didn't know there was a scene - My first real exotica event was a Cacophony Society event back in like '92, where they had this cafe called Onyx, redecorated like it was a 50's bar in the South Seas with Yma Sumac record covers, etc. and a tiki bar and cool tiki wallpaper. I even know the guy that put on the show, but I didn't realize that the style was related to some music. I went to the Tiki Ti bar many times - still not knowing there was any kind of a lounge scene, outside of my drunk hairdresser who always told me about her adventures to the Dresden. Then I saw Combustible Edison back in like 1992 or 1993 when they came to L.A., but still didn't know there was like a Lounge scene. Even went the infamous Dresden back then once. I found out about "Lounge music," via a punk event at a bookstore (last summer?) that had a copy of Lounge magazine and a copy of Tiki News (I bought both and then started buying re-issued CD's that were reviewed in those publications. I met the publishers, Sam Wick and Otto of those magazines in person and through the email system. So it was by accident, that I ended up stumbling onto the music. And now I am trying to cover this music scene and integrate it into my column which is supposed to be about punk. But there isn't much of a scene here in L.A. Well, okay, I don't hang out down at the Dresden to see if anyone shows up, but of the people I know, there isn't many. The people who I've seen at Tiki Ti's or the Lava Lounge don't seem to know what Lounge is, judging by appearances (which may not be an indicator as some have pointed out, but I'm going by my instincts here). I have been to the new Lounge club, The Encounter at Los Angeles International Airport, a few times and barely 20 people will show up. I know about six people here that I would say are part of "the scene." I think there are probably a lot of people in L.A. buying Lounge re-issues - but they are not going to clubs. There appears to be no "critical mass" which would be necessary to support a Lounge club scene and I'm afraid that what Lounge scene D.J.'s Senor Amour and John Godin have got going down at the Encounter, is going to be short-lived because of it. So whether or not there is "a scene," is also an interesting and valid question. Is Lounge, and I'm asking you list people, just a bunch of people who are sitting at home listening to records as one person has suggested, or is there a bonafide club scene to go with it??? Punk never had this problem because punk started as a club scene phenomenon and then went to vinyl. Lounge appears to be totally based in vinyl - at least we can agree it started with vinyl - but is there a club scene, therefore, is there a Lounge scene, to go with it? Does there have to be a club scene for Lounge to be a legitimate phenomenon???? Anyway, now that I've made some waves with my theoretical questions about Lounge - I don't feel so alone anymore. Maybe we will never resolve these issues, but I think it is at least bringing people on the list together as a community. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jordana Subject: (exotica) WKPS update Date: 08 Jul 1997 03:55:37 -0400 >Date: 20 May 97 15:44:00 PST >From: "GUERRERO, Ernie" >Subject: (exotica) RE: WKPS Lounge Show > >Can you tell me how things are going with your radio show? >the jetset hifi one and the other one you were planning >called chemistry set?? WKPS is the Penn State student station. I used to post playlists to this list, but I haven't been reading it as religiously as I used to, and haven't posted in a long long time. Ths "Jet Set Sounds in Hi-Fi" still exists, though in a slightly precarious state. I graduated in May, so I'm not officially a part of the station anymore, even though I am still doing weekly shows. I passed on "Jet Set" to the former MD, and things were fine for a while... but due to some politics (they picked a new MD who is doing things, um, differently, to be nice about it) and her new work schedule, I don't know if she's going to bother much with the show anymore... maybe in the fall everything will be normal again, but I'll be long gone by then. I might not mind keeping up the show till I leave, but then I'd have to do 5 straight hours a week, and that's a little much, especially by myself. The "Chemistry Set" is more of an RPM show, meaning more electronica, drum&bass, trip-hop, and experimental. Though since I do the show, I have been known to throw some Gainsbourg or J.J. Perrey or Joe Meek into the mix, and I certainly play "cross-over" stuff like Tipsy or Sukia. I suppose I'm back reading the list regularly now - I just sorted through the most incredible backlog of messages... -Jordana _______________________________ this has been a message from jordana robinson - jbr109@psu.edu _______________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jordana Subject: (exotica) delinquent tape trades Date: 08 Jul 1997 04:03:15 -0400 Do I still owe anybody from this list any mix tapes or radio show tapes? I really hope I don't, and I don't think I do, but I'd hate to think there's someone out there angry with me because I have been a slacker about most email-related things for the past few months... I'll still honor any tape trade requests - just email me and don't yell at me or anything :) -Jordana _______________________________ this has been a message from jordana robinson - jbr109@psu.edu _______________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: breithel@lund.mail.telia.com (Ingemar Breithel) Subject: (exotica) Sylvia Copeland / Yma in Montreal? Date: 08 Jul 1997 11:06:00 +0100 =46or abstract female vocals AND show-tune belting, no one beats Sylvia Copeland. Imagine Yma Sumac warming up and then segeuing into a rip-roaring version of Jerome Kern's "Dearly Beloved" or a=20 bossa nova tinged "Wild is Love". This is what happens on Ms. Copeland=B4s= =20 1965 album "The August Child". And she's got the Yma vocal pyrotechnics down pat -- from the low growls to the bird-like warblings. A decidedly mixed bag, the album also contains songs in fractured Spanish and Portuguese, and the mixture of vocal styles is a bit perplexing. I wonder if Sylvia Copeland made any other records -- the liner notes speak of a career in musicals. We also learn that she "travelled to Europe representing the city of Cleveland in beauty and talent." On the subject of Yma, the official authorized homepage mentioned an impending concert in Montreal, which was to have taken place about a week ago. Anyone seen any references to the actual event, or, better still, any eye-witness reports?=20 Ingemar Breithel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Lounge Attack!! Date: 08 Jul 1997 09:19:12 -0400 (EDT) ANYONE WHO DOESN'T WANT TO SEE TWO GROWN MEN FIGHT IT OUT PLEASE GO ON TO THE NEXT POSTING... (just kidding) Randall I'd like to answer your response: > Oh, come on, Ashley. Efforts at explaining sociological phenomena -- >and music choices, as all consumption choices that extend beyond the >personal to the group, are sociological phenomena -- are totally >legitimate. And people love to participate in that exercise. I believe you are reading a bit too much mumbo jumbo pop psychological and pop sociological explination into the "lounge scene." The music came first, before the martinis, before the cigars, even before the new suit you were modeling for the article. Let me repeat again, it was the freshness of the music, the different and more chance-taking arrangements of the music that sparked the interest of people amidst the "alternative rock" that through hundreds of bands repeating the same formula and hundreds of these bands putting out records and being played on the radio that "alternative" became mainstream. This so called "lounge music" was always around, and was appreciated by many on and off this list albeit to a much smaller extent than now (Again, we have the morass of "alternative rock" to thank for that). As for your statement that people love to conjecture about everything, I'll agree with you on that, but you should recognize the veracity and knoweledge of the sources involved. Just watch Jay Leno one night when he goes down Sunset Boulevard and asks people questions about current affiars, people in the news or high school level art or literature. . There was >nary a person to whom I spoke during my research on the Esquire piece, >yourself included, who didn't speculate on the "why" of Lounge's appeal. If you examine your notes you may re-read that I was desribing "lounge's" appeal in terms of the musical poinst I made above, and if I am not mistaken also in respect to the social aspect of people being able to "lounge", meaning hang out and talk. (This later being a mere example of the "third place" phenonema that real sociologists and psychologists have written which for those on the list who may not have heard of this term describes the place besides work or home where overworked people nowadays go to chill out and socialize). > As I told Michele (in an e-mail that didn't get posted to the >conference because I screwed it up), the fact is that Lounge *is* a scene, >and *is* more than the music. I still don't understand how "lounge" is more than the music. How is someone making a political or sociological statement listening to "lounge"? or "electronica" for that matter? There is no political agenda in these lyrics and in the case of much "lounge" and "electronica" no lyrical statements at all! You yourself participate in that scene, by >showing up at Scott and Jack's In Hi-Fi. Now, your reasons may differ from >the scores of others who go there; and their reasons may differ from the >thousands who go to The 999999s and tha Lava Lounge and Mr. Phat's and the >various clubs in Austin and Minneapolis and other places. But the fact is, >something -- some set of reasons -- is drawing people to public places to >share publicly their appreciation for a form (actually, a collection of >forms) of music. So to say that it's "just the music" seems a bit specious >to me. It is the freshness of the music and the ":third place phenomenon that is drawing the hundreds to the 9999999s and the thousands to Bar d'O, Mr. Phat's, The Encounter and other places across the country. As to your "specious" remark about my "it's just the music" comment, the reason why people go to these clubs is merely to enjoy the music and in the hopes of hanging out with like minded people - it really is as simple as that. There is no underlying societal deep meaning going on here! It's the same reason people having been going to rock concerts for years. > Instead of scorning the people who dress up and go to The 999999s; >instead of asserting that it's "just the music" that draws people to Bar >D'O (when they could just as easily stay home to listen to "the music," >which after all is recorded, not live) why not participate in an honest >exploration of what leads to a revival of a formerly discredited cultural >form? At the 99999's you are merely dealing with "club kids" who will go to the 9999's on Sunday night to hear lounge, maybe Giant Steps to hear electro on one other night and maybe go to another dance club to hear house on another night. I am not making a value judgement here, it just that that there is no statement about the "lounge scene" here (Isn't the 9999's the club that held a "Lounge Is dead Night" too?) These club kids are there for the nightclub aspect and not there for their alliegence to "lounge" music and for you to believe otherwise is "specious." Youu'll get plenty of peole coming into Bar d'O as well who have no idea that this type of music is being played on a Thursday night - they wander in because there is a cool vibe - the same reason that goes on at the 9999's. I do feel because of the more "industry' (for lack of a better term, people who come to bar d'O there is more of a Algonquin Roundtable aspect to Bar d'O, just as if you are looking to have some fun dancing the 99999's is the far better place for it (and I'm not making any value judgements here, I'd love Bar d'O to be in a larger space so people could dance). Getting back to this point, Bar d'O is more about the music in the respect of the people it attracts (versuses the 9999's) are more likely to discuss the releative merits of the music being played than are there for the more physical enjoyment of the dance. This also allows slower types of music to be played and listened to which in a place like the 9999's would clear the dance floor. I choose bar d'O over the 9999's for reasons as noted above, also because I have to work the next day, as well my idea of "lounge' is neither about having wonderfully played and sung melodic music being spinned by steve Spain (who knows his stuff and does a fabulous job) being interrupted by badly performed cabaret that would have trouble lasting for one night on a second rung cruise ship. > Take it a step further: if the "trust fund kids" at The 999999s are >so different from you and your friends at In Hi-Fi, what then draws them >to the same form(s) of music? And if dressing for the part is such a >horrible transgression, how then do you distinguish between, say, Scott >and Jack's costuming for their DJ roles and the costuming of the kids at >Mr. Phat's? I'm sure Scott and Jack will get a kick out of you calling their dress "costuming", these guys dress like this everyday of the week as they come from work dressed as they do! I never said that dressing the part was (your words) "a horrible transgression." My concern is with the people who simply dress up because they want to play "frank Sinatra" or "Audrey Hepburn" and drink their martinis "shakin not stirred' and bring with it a heavy HEAVY DOSE of "cooler than thought" attitude with little or no appreciatuion for the music. They are more interested in making an impression that anything else. (Go ahead have some fun and dress up, but don't try that cooler than though bullshit near me - there are plenty of other Manahattan clubs where that entree is served)That's why I'll take Bar d"O over the 9999's where there are not these pretentions nor trendier than though east Village club kids vying to show off their larger egos and smaller talents dancing on cubes and fireplace ledges above the crowd. > I'm not asking to be contentious, but because I think these are >honestly interesting questions. Dick Hebdige dealt with similar issues in >his remarkable book "Subcultures," about the original UK punk scene. I >recommend it to everyone on this list as a preliminary to serious >discussions of the Lounge phenomenon. Do recall that the punk movement started because of the political climate in the UK. Lounge is not a longing for the Replublican way of life in the 50's - if that was the case George Bush would now be president. If you still don't feel that just because a lot of people are into something that there must be some deeper meaning instead of it being just the music, then I think we'd all love to hear the psychological and sociological reasons why the Macarena or Dirty Dancing caught on. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ghostown@ix.netcom.com Subject: (exotica) Correction: Betty Shabazz Date: 08 Jul 1997 10:25:31 -0400 * * * * * kevin king wrote: > > Well, there's Betty Shabazz, wife of Malcolm X, who suffered burns > from a fire set by her nephew before dying of injuries. So that > makes at least six public figures recently deceased. Actually it was her grandson who started the fire. Though you wouldn't know this if you read the NY Times, which omitted this information from their Page 1 story about her death. --I.C. * * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BGlennii@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Drasnin on CD Date: 08 Jul 1997 10:52:27 -0400 (EDT) I was under the impression that the original Drasnin tapes were destroyed. How, then, could the folks at Pickwick remaster them? And for six bucks??? I'd be suspicious if I were you. Ben DC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ghostown@ix.netcom.com Subject: (exotica) Anyone know Allegro? Date: 08 Jul 1997 13:01:48 -0400 * * * * * * I'm trying to help an eccentic, sophisticated European record label (pop & soundtracks, but not rock-oriented) find US distribution. Does anyone have information about a distribution company called ALLEGRO? Just curious if anyone has had experience with them, or is familiar with their orientation and/or reputation. PLEASE ANSWER OFF-LIST to: Irwin Chusid * * * * * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonny.S@nyo.com (Jonny.S) Subject: (exotica) F.O.G. Live in NYC -7/8/97 Date: 08 Jul 1997 12:09:50 -0500 For those in N.Y.C., Family Of God is performing tonight at the Mercury Lounge on Houston Street between Essex and Ludlow streets. They will be going on at 11 PM with Smylonylon DJs before the show playing slowed down Euro & Lebanese Moogy disco from the '70s. I think the cover is Five dollars but check with the club. Thanks, Jonny # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonny.S@nyo.com (Jonny.S) Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Lounge Attack!! Date: 08 Jul 1997 12:51:25 -0500 Randall Rothenberg,randallf@echonyc.com,internet writes: > Efforts at explaining sociological phenomena -- >and music choices, as all consumption choices that extend beyond the >personal to the group, are sociological phenomena -- are totally >legitimate. I wish there was more discussion like this on the exotica conference. I spend a good part of my waking hours thinking about, playing and listening to music. As well as spinning records at least three nights a week. O.K. call me obsessed. To look at the social context in which music occurs for people is a natural outgrowth of my own experience as a musician and my love for music. I'm not saying that everyone should participate in this way or that not doing so lessens there musical experience. It's a personal choice. Just like cab drivers "listen" to lite FM while there driving to relax. Aren't they experiencing a "listening" that is talking place in the background rather than the foreground of there conscience? It may be that these kind of thoughts are better directed to psycho acoustics or cultural studies conference but they don't necessarily deal with the music discussed here. They way in which we align ourselves with different parties, styles of exotica etc. seems to me to be " >sociological phenomena" in action. I certainly have my own alignments and can be very happily opinionated about them. I find it fascinating to talk about and hear what people think about these issues. I think the greater objective should be illumination rather than, "my part rocks and your party sucks and, take off that fez!" Dick Hebdige has another interesting book called Cut 'n Mix about the development of reggae through dancehall culture. How the musical development is influenced and driven by the records and style of Deejaying in the dancehalls of Jamaica. there is another interesting and very funny article in a new collection called the Sub-Cultures Reader edited by Ken Gelder & Sarah Thorton (Routledge) It's titled "the Culture Of A deviant Group: The 'Jazz Musician" by Howard Becker written in 1963. It's actually about club date musicians who play weddings and aspire to be jazz musicians. Its a great example of a group aligning themselves with a particular camp. It's also very funny, I was laughing out loud. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonny.S@nyo.com (Jonny.S) Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Lounge Attack!! Date: 08 Jul 1997 12:51:25 -0500 Randall Rothenberg,randallf@echonyc.com,internet writes: > Efforts at explaining sociological phenomena -- >and music choices, as all consumption choices that extend beyond the >personal to the group, are sociological phenomena -- are totally >legitimate. I wish there was more discussion like this on the exotica conference. I spend a good part of my waking hours thinking about, playing and listening to music. As well as spinning records at least three nights a week. O.K. call me obsessed. To look at the social context in which music occurs for people is a natural outgrowth of my own experience as a musician and my love for music. I'm not saying that everyone should participate in this way or that not doing so lessens there musical experience. It's a personal choice. Just like cab drivers "listen" to lite FM while there driving to relax. Aren't they experiencing a "listening" that is talking place in the background rather than the foreground of there conscience? It may be that these kind of thoughts are better directed to psycho acoustics or cultural studies conference but they don't necessarily deal with the music discussed here. They way in which we align ourselves with different parties, styles of exotica etc. seems to me to be " >sociological phenomena" in action. I certainly have my own alignments and can be very happily opinionated about them. I find it fascinating to talk about and hear what people think about these issues. I think the greater objective should be illumination rather than, "my part rocks and your party sucks and, take off that fez!" Dick Hebdige has another interesting book called Cut 'n Mix about the development of reggae through dancehall culture. How the musical development is influenced and driven by the records and style of Deejaying in the dancehalls of Jamaica. there is another interesting and very funny article in a new collection called the Sub-Cultures Reader edited by Ken Gelder & Sarah Thorton (Routledge) It's titled "the Culture Of A deviant Group: The 'Jazz Musician" by Howard Becker written in 1963. It's actually about club date musicians who play weddings and aspire to be jazz musicians. Its a great example of a group aligning themselves with a particular camp. It's also very funny, I was laughing out loud. regards, Jonny Sender # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: (exotica) The Strip Goes On! Date: 08 Jul 1997 19:37:17 +0100 I've picked up a release of no mean quality: "The Strip Goes On" -- Orchester Werner Muller (German Decca). The first thing to say about this is that the cover is ridiculous. We have here woman with a very-1970s voluminous red with floral-excess dress that she has peeled off from her upper torso to reveal her pert breasts and the little paper flags of the world which are stuck to her flesh with what seem to be large blobs of garish plasticine. For no apparent reason. The reverse has a black and white picture of a navel plus surround, with the top of a pair of unbelted jeans that are being unzipped. The second thing to say is that the music is ridiculous too. Two tracks are Muller originals, one ("Juanita Rumba") is by a certain Wilden, and two are by Loussier (but presumably not the "Play Bach" guy). Herr Muller has excelled himself, apart from the attempts to tackle "Je T'Aime", "Satisfaction" and "Get Up I Feel Like Being A Sex Machine", which are quite unfortunate compared to the rest, but do have comedic aspects (especially "Sex Machine"). Bass and organ and horns nestle snugly together, creating a really stoopid excursion into the world of dodgy-sultry-sexy cheese-rampage: "The Beat Goes On" and "Too Damn Hot" are especially good. The most frightening thing about this whole package is the VOICES. I can deal adequately with the GerManically-tinged chorus on "Strip Strap Stroll" (Schtripp Schtrapp Schtroll It's The something something somethingoll) and the Frenchification of "Femme Femme" (FammAH, FemiNEENER)... but the echoing giggles, sighs, moans and inhalations on "The Stripper" are somehow DEEPLY DISTURBING, indicating that the fine line between innocent strippy pleasure and black, swirling madness is being broached. "Bodybuilding" has multiple different VOICES indicating displeasure or pleasure at the sight of a muscular man through out the song, which can prove extremely nerve-racking ("Ohhhh my BEAUUU-TIFUL GANGster!"). I am proud to claim ownership of this item. Thankyou for your time. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Kilmartin Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Lounge Attack!! Date: 08 Jul 1997 14:46:34 -0400 >At 12:51 PM 08/07/1997 -0500, Johnny S wrote: >> >>I find it fascinating to talk about and hear what people think about >>these issues. I think the greater objective should be illumination rath= er than, >>"my part rocks and your party sucks and, take off that fez!"=20 >> Dick Hebdige has another interesting book called Cut 'n Mix about the >>development of reggae through dancehall culture. How the musical development is >>influenced and driven by the records and style of Deejaying in the dancehalls >>of Jamaica. there is another interesting and very funny article in a ne= w >>collection called the Sub-Cultures Reader edited by Ken Gelder & Sarah Thorton >>(Routledge) It's titled "the Culture Of A deviant Group: The 'Jazz Musician" by >>Howard Becker written in 1963. It's actually about club date musicians who play >>weddings and aspire to be jazz musicians. Its a great example of a grou= p >>aligning themselves with a particular camp. It's also very funny, I was >>laughing out loud.=20 I agree this kind of debate is interesting to see on the list and something I , for one, welcome. In their book *13th Gen*, Neil Howe and Bill Strauss make some pretty convincing arguements that the generation born between 1960 and 1980 show= a marked similarity to the generation born between 1920-1940, as opposed to the "boomer" generation of 1940-1960, if only because of socio/economic a= nd cultural similarities (I'm not gonna try to break a 230 pg arguement down into an email posting, but I strongly recommend the book to anyone readin= g this). It stands to reason, using the same arguements, that we might b= e interested in the same kind of music (music for music's sake, rather than pretentious "art-music" that is trying to promote a "message"), even in fact the SAME music (most of the old-school coctail and exotica music was written by people born between 1920-1940). Just a point to ponder. And I like the way this thread is going... Joe in Toronto Sometimes a man can learn more from another man=92s dreams than from his = own. Come visit me sometime Sir, if you wish to improve your education. -Charles Halloway, Something Wicked This Way Comes # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Lounge Attack!! Date: 08 Jul 1997 21:09:58 +0100 Personally, I would not like to attribute sociological motives as to why large groups of people feel attracted to "lounge culture". I feel unqualified to speak out for the diaspora in general. I can speak only for myself. But to me it is clear that my necro-filiated musical taste suggests only that I am regarding non-irony itself with an ironic detatchment, subverting the notions of both progress and nostalgia by providing thesis and antithesis with the synthesis -- "lounge music". Kierkegaard said that no authentic human life is possible without irony. The non-authenticity of manufactured "experience" that becomes increasingly prevalent with the activities of "progress" is demonstrated all around us: in the fact that some people can read John Grisham, or even more amazingly, Barabara Cartland novels without whimpering; in the invention of new periods of celebration ("National Flea Awareness Week", "World Chiropody Day", "Uncle's Day", &c.)' in the ever-increasing encroachment of robotic service-styles by underpaid, deliberately characterless zombies in matching uniforms who are moulded to display deeply offensive unrealistic politesse. And only the ironic bedrock can prevent a dangerous slide towards a phony nostalgia towards situations never directly experienced: in such a direction lies phantasm and, eventually, madness: the chaos of a hideous mental Godzilla eating mental urbanity in its idiotically cartoonlike manner; the stance of the ostrich-like who must retreat from those feelings of disgust that existence will naturally engender in anyone that seriously considers the likely state of the world in just a few decades from now. Much in the manner of Borges' tale of Pierre Menard (the man who wrote Quixote), it is only this ability to "detach" from "authentic" interpretations of this "style" (heterogenous though it is) that allows for any appreciation of its "richness". Furthermore, I can only regard the music (as for antique wallpapers) as having the qualities that it does due to its relative lack of normalcy: the very rarity of items contributes to their value, the very idiosyncracy of a timbre creates its worth, even while "papering" over a familiar, often deeply flawed, framework. This makes any suggestion of it being a "popular" or "serious" style a self-defeating irony. Please excuse me if this offends you: I'm British, you see. But any quantum hermeneuticist would say the same. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Sando Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Lounge Attack!! Date: 08 Jul 1997 13:07:33 -0700 At 02:46 PM 7/8/97 -0400, Joe Kilmartin wrote: >In their book *13th Gen*, Neil Howe and Bill Strauss make some pretty >convincing arguements that the generation born between 1960 and 1980 show a >marked similarity to the generation born between 1920-1940, as opposed to >the "boomer" generation of 1940-1960, if only because of socio/economic and >cultural similarities It's an interesting theory except isn't most of what the "kids" listen to today just a rehash of what the boomers were doing? Plus, the boomers had pre-disco Pointer Sisters, Maria Muldaur, Manhattan transfer, Dan Hicks and his hot licks, Commander Cody, Bette Midler doing the vintage thing back then. As someone born in 1960 (now that can't leave this room!!!!), I feel like I have as much in common with someone born in 1980 as a martian. I was already voting when the 1980 kid was born. I really feel like the aesthetic of the boomers (hippie in particualr) was forced on me and that's why I embraced Disco with open arms (a regretful move well documented with photos). Someone born in 1975 wouldn't have the same issues with the previous generation. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: (exotica) Frank Hunter Date: 08 Jul 1997 18:34:26 -0600 Thinking about buying the Frank Hunter "White Goddess" LP. Is it rare? Is it expensive? Is it easy to find? Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. Jack? Tony? Some of you cats who sell this stuff might know the score? Thanks in advance.... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vik Trola Subject: (exotica) The return of Vik's Newsletter Date: 08 Jul 1997 20:48:42 -0500 Well...things have been fairly quiet on the newsletter front of late, and most of the blame goes to Vik. He's been busy working on yet another re-decoration of the lounge. This time, the infamous team of Oskar Umlaut and Senor Scuzzi are providing the interior design advice. Phase one has been completed with much of Vik's old furniture re-arranged (so if something turns up missing...try the front door). Phase two in the works now, but as it involves a secret kabal of swiss chocolate sculptors, no details can be leaked... =============================================================================== All New Jet Set (http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/jet.html) First to get a make over at the lounge is the Jet Set. Now you can choose a destination from our big departure board (both U.S. and International flights) or simply enjoy some of the in flight entertainment. The Jet Set is always looking for tips, reports and happening from around the globe. Send them to viktrola@caroline.com =============================================================================== A New Library (http://www,chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/reading.html) Languishing in the dusty back room of Vik's, Vik's Library had been solely neglected. Being the literati they are, Umlaut and Scuzzi have ripped out a wall and given Required Reading a fresh coat of paint and expanded the selection. The featured Read is Vern Stoltz's excellent "Cannot Become Obsolete". On the new cart...LCD, Cheeseball, Scram and more. The usual suspects in the Required Magazines (Tiki News, Cool and Strange, Beer Frame, Lounge) and even more Required Books. In The Stacks, you'll find bits and pieces from the printed realm documenting the fringes of this crazy thing called lounge music... =============================================================================== The Swank Times (http://www.chaoskitty.com/mnews.html) As 1997 shapes up to be a slow(er) year for quality re-issues, it becomes harder and harder to find good releases to rave about. Vik's dug up a few and you can read all about them in The Swank Times. A re-mix from Dimitri...mad mad soundtracks...JJ Perrey gets funky on "Loose & Juicy"...Nick at Nite goes lounging...and Hollywood Records brings forth (sooner or later) the best "concept" album so far this year!!! =============================================================================== Radio Vik on the Air (http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/radio/radiovik.html) Broadcasting 24 hours a day in mono, Radio Vik's has added all new feature albums for Hollywood's "Lounge-a-palooza" (release date now delayed until October!), Vanguard's "Loose & Juicy", The swinging Italian sounds of "Mo'Plen 2000", random tracks from Tom Jones, Lalo Schrifin, Combustible Edison, Dimitri From Paris, Yellow 357 as well as continued features for "Further InFlight" and "Beat at Cinecitta." Vik's Featured Albums now offers three ways to listen - individual tracks, the Radio Vik broadcast or just listen to a specific album feature. COMING SOON...Global Radio with The West Bethany Lounge...a Crippled Dick Hot Wax special...The Mad Mad World of Soundtracks...Air...Yma Sumac's "Miracles"...Les Baxter's "The Passions"... =============================================================================== In other areas of interest... Fans of Crippled Dick Hot Wax should take note...they've finally set up a website at the wonderful URL of http://www.crippled.com. Information on the catalog and new releases and a generally swell look make this a swinging place to visit. (Tell'em Vik sent ya!) And if you have not do so...get thy mai tai lovin' butt over to King Kini's Club Velvet NetRadio broadcast and listen to three of the smoothest Real Audio files current on the information super dirt road. Vik had the recent pleasure of listening to all three, and there's not a dud in the bunch! Finally, remeber that promising little label of 1996...Scamp Records? Well, those on the exotica list know Scamp CEO Ashley has not died and, much to the surprise of the mass media, Scamp is still in business. Having released the sultry "Hypnotique/Exotica III" earlier this year, it seemed the good folks at Scamp had perhaps sailed away to some island paradise never to be heard again...FEAR NOT!!! Then end of July finds them back with a vengeance releasing the next Denny (Quiet Village/Enchanted Sea) as well as the oft coveted and very rare Mel Henke :La Dolce Henke." On the horizon, Scamp will be putting out three fabulous collections of production music beginning with the '50s collection "Music for TV Dinners." Vik's heard many of the tracks and it will be worth the wait... =============================================================================== Til next time (whenever that may be)... waking up in the city that never sleeps, Vik Vik's Lounge http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/lounge.html Space Age Bachelor Pad Music http://www.chaoskitty.com/sabpm/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: (exotica) Frank Hunter Date: 08 Jul 1997 23:10:55 -0400 >Thinking about buying the Frank Hunter "White Goddess" LP. Is it rare? Is it >expensive? Is it easy to find? Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. It's one of the best, well-known, one-off exotica records, with abstract female vocals, the works. Since demand outstrips supply, I guess it's "rare." It's from about the same period as Anita Darien's (the Armenian Yma Sumac) East of the Sun, also on Kapp and produced by Hunter. tony The Wilds Scene: LPs * Sabu Home Page * Tiki Gallery http://www.charm.net/~wilds/ Email lists: new LP arrivals, web pages/sites, comps To receive, email: wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek Grime" Subject: Re: (exotica) Wavy Gravy Date: 09 Jul 1997 00:56:02 -0400 On Jul 6, 5:25pm, DYDM6113@bureau.ucc.ie wrote: > Subject: (exotica) Wavy Gravy > I wonder if there is anyone out there who could tell me something about the > origins of these songs? There's not much info on the CD because it's a bootleg. Some of the artists or titles have been changed. "HO HO Lauging Monster" is actually "The HO HO Rock and Roll Song" by Peter Roberts from '56! The tracks have various pedigrees, some are from 45's, some are from LPs like "Mad Twists Rock'n'Roll". Some are scarce garage band releases like "Bo Diddly" by the Juveniles. "The Evil Dope" is the flip of a Phil Phillips 45 on Lanor. "Rubber Room" is an A side on RCA. I've been tracking these down for years and own a few of the original 45's. Which one's do you need info on? -- Derek Grime EMail: derek@coredp.com C.O.R.E. Digital Pictures http://www.coredp.com/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reinhold Boeh Subject: (exotica) Tiki and exotic paces Olando or Fort Myers Beach? Date: 09 Jul 1997 02:51:22 -0700 As a big believer in Tiki, Lounge and exotic entertaining from Munich Germany I look for places to visit in Orlando and Fort Myers Beach. Do you know any good place? One of the best locations I have ever enjoyed is the "Blue Lizard Lounge" in Vancouver! That club represents brilliant taste! Exotic Regards, Ullulani # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: "Randall I'd like to answer your response" Date: 09 Jul 1997 07:22:30 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-08 14:50:45 EDT, you write: << Randall I'd like to answer your response: >> Ashley, I for one, and I am sure there are others, enjoyed your response. My opinion: The whole exotica movement (revival?) is far more wide spr= ead in the private dens of America (as well as other countries) than it is in= the club scenes. Unlike so many other trends in music (Rock, Punk, Folk, etc= .) Exotica is really based on the music first (and only?). There are no political or social agendas. Quiet Village is just that -- a pure song w= ith a marvelous melody -- it has no agenda. Can you imagine it=92s release t= oday: "It takes a 'Quiet Village" to raise a child"? Make no mistake, this music does beacon to a calmer mood, but not necessarily a calmer time. It does not push some 1950's republican agenda= . I do think the music is escapist mood music (which does not mean that the people who initiated it originally were trying to escaping reality). Jus= t like the folks in the depression, when they turned on the radio they wan= ted happy tunes. They still got up in the morning and looked for a job. The music was a release for them, as it is for us, and not commentary. All day long I hear complaints, solve problems and filter the never end= ing stream of "agendized" crap that comes at me from all sides. When I turn = on my record or CD player I do not want a continuation of that noise. I wan= t to relax, enjoy, and to an extent, forget the pressures I face daily. I am probably more enthralled with this type of music than I have been w= ith any other music in my life. Why? Because with it's premise to answer no questions at all, it provides me with the with (what I consider) the mos= t important aspect of good music: melody, harmony and good/inovative composition. I have mixed emotions about the reporting on "our kind of music" by the media. Part of me likes the fact that the music I have loved for years i= s being recognized by more people. On the other hand, I am afraid that if popularity spreads, the uniqueness and my interest may wane. Oh well, can=92t worry about that now, will worry about that tomorrow.= My only problem? Should I listen to Denny=92s Black Orchid on CD or vinyl? = Coin toss. I can=92t lose either way. Warmest regards, Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Age, Demographic and Related Stuff Date: 09 Jul 1997 07:42:21 -0400 (EDT) << At 02:46 PM 7/8/97 -0400, Joe Kilmartin wrote: >In their book *13th Gen*, Neil Howe and Bill Strauss make some pretty >convincing arguements that the generation born between 1960 and 1980 show a >marked similarity to the generation born between 1920-1940, as opposed to >the "boomer" generation of 1940-1960, if only because of socio/economic and >cultural similarities >> As my previous posts suggests, I agree with this statement. I hope that I do not ruffle to many feathers with this post. I was born in 1961 and my two brothers and sister were born in 1950, 1951 and 1954. I am much more like the folks born between 1920-1940 that are they. I have always been more conservative and pragmatic in my judgements and actions. They tend to be much more individualistic (v. group oriented). I have tended to "go with the flow" while they have tended to "define themselves". Don't get me wrong, I do not view these differences a detriment, just distinctly different. I think that my age group (born 1956-1966) never truely aligned with their Rock/Social agenda. I feel this is why we 30-somethings are probably the majority of the exotica listeners in the private homes. We're too old (and tired) to hit the clubs, and don't really want to, so it's the 20-somethings that get the media's attention. Does anybody have demographics regarding the age distribution of exotica listeners v. club goers? Record exec's got to know. Feathers ruffled? Join the forum. Comments? Post directly to board so everybody can enjoy. Warmest regards, Robert Brooks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Branson Info wanted Date: 09 Jul 1997 07:54:22 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-08 21:53:24 EDT, Hugh write: << Later this year I hope to visit Branson Missouri, and would be grateful if any exotica reader who knows the place could get in touch. >> There's that Japanese guy who plays the fiddle. Now that's exotica(?). Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) July 16 in SF Date: 09 Jul 1997 02:43:54 -0400 (EDT) San Francisco, Wednesday July 16, 9:00 pm Aqua Velvets bring on the surf with Otto djing between sets Cafe DuNord 2170 Market St @ Sanchez # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Essay Question Date: 09 Jul 1997 11:47:32 -0400 > So, folks, it's essay time. Answer the following: > "What is exotica 'about' and what does it mean to me?" > You have until the end of class. Essay? No -- I'll simply paraphrase and recontextualize our own Pea Hicks: "The groove just goes from the inside out." Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to go listen to that impossibly rare Monk meets Bozo afterhours jam bootleg. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) New Releases Worth Checking Out Date: 09 Jul 1997 14:44:50 I am usually too poor to spend much time or money in the CD stores, but I picked up the following on a trade-in this week and had a chance to give 'em a spin before packing up the CD player. Lambert, Hendricks, & Ross--CBS has finally dug out their three CBS LPs and put them on 2 CDs. A few bonus tracks as well, including two "twist" numbers. Their last CBS LP, "High Flying with LH&R" is one of the jewels I found rooting through my Dad's records about 25 years ago. Run out and get it, poppity-pop! Dizzy Gillespie--Soundtrack to "The Cool World" and "Goes to Hollywood." A two-fer, the first a choice soundtrack to Shirley Clarke's movie, the second covers of early 60s film themes. Great stuff with lots of Latin rhythms on the latter. Gert Wilden--"I Told You Not to Cry" Think this Crippled Dick release has been mentioned before, but this is a must for spy/crime fans. Some decent Vic Flick James Bond-style guitar imitations, some Fu Manchu twists. Just hope they don't all melt in storage under the hot Texas sun now! Brad Bigelow # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Abstract Female Vocals Date: 09 Jul 1997 18:25:34 -0400 (EDT) At 05:27 PM 7/7/97 -0400, you wrote: >> > I can't get enough of Yma Sumac, Bas Sheva, and Leda Annest, but can't seem >> > to find any other LPs with abstract vocals. >After following this thread for a while, I've suddenly remembered a couple of >other artists who may be of interest. They're both more avant garde than >exotica, but definitely exotic. >Joan La Barbara <> >Ursula Dudziak <> >m.ace Aw, no fair! I go away for a week and you played this game without me. Let's see, y'all got the late Mrs. Berio, Diamanda G., Joan LaB., Ursula D., Yoko O.... Even though the correct answer is probably Cathy Berberian, let me toss two more names into the pot just for grins: Meredith Monk, and the Star-Scape Singers. While the popular name for this stuff is Wordless Vocals, the high-falutin' name is Extended Vocal Techniques. You can find a chapter (or really half a chapter) on it in WNYC-FM's John Schaeffer's 1987 book 'New Sounds: A listener's guide to New Music'. The chapter is called 'The Oldest and Newest Instruments.' Though the book is 10 years old it is still worth finding, and does have some overlap with Exotica. For that matter, so do R. Murray Schafer's handful of books from 25 years ago, particularly 'Soundscape.' --Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Earphones For The Head/Headphones For The Ears Date: 09 Jul 1997 20:05:58 -0400 (EDT) At 07:35 PM 6/28/97 -0400, Ashley wrote: >An interesting question with a little side bar comment. I've noticed that to >really experience the true aura of stereo for albums like the above that >played up the spacialness of stereo, you have to take those headphones off and >listen via your speakers. When listening through headphones you miss the >effect of the creation of a phantom center channel ( through headphones this >is somewhat lost as the sound appears to come from each headphone speaker >causing you to miss out on this effect). This wall-in-the-center-of-the-brain effect isn't necessarily caused by the headphones themselves. Just listen on headphones to any of the Binaural Stereo records out there (Lou Reed released a few) or audience bootlegs recorded using Sonic Solutions or Core Sound stealth mics. Basically, when listening to stereo using speakers, your left ear hears the right speaker, just a bit later than the right ear (and with attenuation of some frequencies). Same for the right ear hearing the left speaker. These time delays and frequency roll-offs give yer brain the perceptual cues to build a 3-D soundscape around you. None of this can happen when the left channel is sent only to the left ear, and the right only to the right. This problem was recognized and solved by 1971, at least. I remember reading an article in Popular Electronics around then, called "How To Give Stereo Headphones A Space Dimension." The circuit required to do this consisted of ~~15 components. No different in concept to what's done now on Surround Sound Receivers when you set the 'room size' from 'jazz club' to 'rock stadium'. So there's my audio add-on wish: a 'space-correction' circuit for the headphone jack on my receiver. A few years ago, Sony sold a deck-of-cards sized equilizer for use with a Walkman. If they put that back on the market with the addition of the 'space-correction' circuit I think they'd sell a ton. --Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Ashley's response to Rothenberg Date: 09 Jul 1997 22:10:12 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-08 14:50:45 EDT, you write: << Randall I'd like to answer your response: >> Ashley, I for one, and I am sure there are others, enjoyed your response. My opinion: The whole exotica movement (revival?) is far more wide spr= ead in the private dens of America (as well as other countries) than it is in= the club scenes. Unlike so many other trends in music (Rock, Punk, Folk, etc= .) Exotica is really based on the music first (and only?). There are no political or social agendas. Quiet Village is just that -- a pure song w= ith a marvelous melody -- it has no agenda. Can you imagine it=92s release t= oday: "It takes a 'Quiet Village" to raise a child"? Make no mistake, this music does beacon to a calmer mood, but not necessarily a calmer time. It does not push some 1950's republican agenda= . I do think the music is escapist mood music (which does not mean that the people who initiated it originally were trying to escaping reality). Jus= t like the folks in the depression, when they turned on the radio they wan= ted happy tunes. They still got up in the morning and looked for a job. The music was a release for them, as it is for us, and not commentary. All day long I hear complaints, solve problems and filter the never end= ing stream of "agendized" crap that comes at me from all sides. When I turn = on my record or CD player I do not want a continuation of that noise. I wan= t to relax, enjoy, and to an extent, forget the pressures I face daily. I am probably more enthralled with this type of music than I have been w= ith any other music in my life. Why? Because with it's premise to answer no questions at all, it provides me with the with (what I consider) the mos= t important aspect of good music: melody, harmony and good/inovative composition. I have mixed emotions about the reporting on "our kind of music" by the media. Part of me likes the fact that the music I have loved for years i= s being recognized by more people. On the other hand, I am afraid that if popularity spreads, the uniqueness and my interest may wane. Oh well, can=92t worry about that now, will worry about that tomorrow.= My only problem? Should I listen to Denny=92s Black Orchid on CD or vinyl? = Coin toss. I can=92t lose either way. Warmest regards, Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Age, Demographics and Related Stuff Date: 09 Jul 1997 22:11:58 -0400 (EDT) << At 02:46 PM 7/8/97 -0400, Joe Kilmartin wrote: >In their book *13th Gen*, Neil Howe and Bill Strauss make some pretty >convincing arguements that the generation born between 1960 and 1980 show a >marked similarity to the generation born between 1920-1940, as opposed to >the "boomer" generation of 1940-1960, if only because of socio/economic and >cultural similarities >> As my previous posts suggests, I agree with this statement. I hope that I do not ruffle to many feathers with this post. I was born in 1961 and my two brothers and sister were born in 1950, 1951 and 1954. I am much more like the folks born between 1920-1940 that are they. I have always been more conservative and pragmatic in my judgements and actions. They tend to be much more individualistic (v. group oriented). I have tended to "go with the flow" while they have tended to "define themselves". Don't get me wrong, I do not view these differences a detriment, just distinctly different. I think that my age group (born 1956-1966) never truely aligned with their Rock/Social agenda. I feel this is why we 30-somethings are probably the majority of the exotica listeners in the private homes. We're too old (and tired) to hit the clubs, and don't really want to, so it's the 20-somethings that get the media's attention. Does anybody have demographics regarding the age distribution of exotica listeners v. club goers? Record exec's got to know. Feathers ruffled? Join the forum. Comments? Post directly to board so everybody can enjoy. Warmest regards, Robert Brooks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jessica Cameron Subject: (exotica) Les Baxter's GNP material/Yma Sumac connection? Date: 10 Jul 1997 09:55:01 -0400 The other day I was looking at a track listing for a GNP label Les Baxter album called "Africa Blue" (or something close to that--I forgot to write down the title, sorry), and I noticed that many of the tracks on the album had the same names as tracks on Yma Sumac's "Miracles." Did Les Baxter record this album first, and then let Yma Sumac add vocals, or vice versa? Thanks for any ideas/information, Jessica ^_^ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: (exotica) Queen of the Cocktail Nation Date: 10 Jul 1997 12:48:13 -0400 After due consideration (next to none) of the flower of contemporary womanhood (Lounge Laura Taylor, Tura Satana, Martha Stewart), it has become apparent that Bowie, MD's own homegrrrl "Ms." Cathie Lee Gifford is indeed the One True Goddess, the Swankiest, the Lust-Kitten-Soul-Sister-#1. Her qualifications: 1. Use of Combustible Edison's "I, Swinger" on today's show. What greater honor than that? At last: hard-working, responsible, professional journalists you don't have to spoonfeed. 2. Promotion of Cah-nee-vahl Cruise Lines. Singles, limbo parties, coconuts, Kenny G... 3. Scandal. She moves to the top of the list of invitees to everyone's next VIP wife-swapping party. Gotta be hittin' the sauce now too. The poor dear! 4. Fashion and sanctimony -- a healthy concern for the dressing habits of millions of strangers and what they ALL must be thinking about HER. Earn that paycheck, girl! She's so cool! Hail the new Queen! Bring on the Nubiles! Congrats Jack and Scott -- keep that fragile blossom safe and alive! natas natas natas natas natas natas natas natas natas natas natas natas natas [Yes, I really like her. And why not? Such an easy target.] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dfrisby@mgm.com (Doug Frisby) Subject: (exotica) CD Clearance Sale! Date: 10 Jul 1997 10:39:16 -0700 I have several "Loungish" CD's that I'm looking to unload. If you'd like to buy, trade, (or swap for a Lounge/Exotica Publication subscription, ahem) let me know!! Here are the CD's I'm looking to let go of..: 1. "Poncie Ponce Sing..!" - Poncie Ponce (Stereo Japanese import - original cover artwork - TV's "Hawaiian Eye" Star sings the Greatest Hawaiian "Pupule" songs including "Princess Poo-Poo-Ly Has Plenty Pa-Pa-Ya "!) 2. "Space Age Soul" - John Schroeder Orchestra featuring Sounds Orchestral (Stereo English import Original cover artwork included inside booklet and includes the original "Working In A Soul Mine" album) 3. "The Wizard Of Oz and Other Harold Arlen Songs" - Shorty Rogers and His Orchestra Featuring The Giants (RCA Spain import with original cover artwork featuring songs like "Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead" and "If I Only Had A Brain".) 4. "The Swingin' Nutcracker" - Shorty Rogers and His Orchestra (RCA Spain import with original cover artwork featuring versions of Sugar Plum Fairy Dance and the rest from the Nutcracker Suite.) 5. "House Of Loungecore" - The Easy Project II (22 song domestic compilation release from Sequel Records of such loungecore regulars as Tony Hatch, John Schroeder, and Roy Budd.) 6. "Satin Affair/Concerto For My Love" - George Shearing (English import twofer from BGO Records includes both Shearing "cocktail mood" albums and features both original album covers on the cover. That's 24 songs in all) 7. "Prez" - Perez Prado And His Orchestra - (German RCA Living Stereo reissue of the classic album complete with originl cover art. Complete with 5 additional bonus tracks including "Estrelita Del Sur" which has been previously unissued) 8. "Latin Percussion With Soul" - Jack Costanzo and Gerry Woo" (Reissue of the mod album with original album cover artwork. Small label and difficult to find. Features songs like "Don't Squeeze The Peaches" and "Mambo Jack".) 9. "I Love Paris" (GOLD CD) - Michel Legrand And His Orchestra (Remastered classic reissue from Columbia records with original album cover art. Lush versions of songs like "I Love Paris" and "April In Paris") 10. "Music For Night People" - The Larry page Orchestra (The lounge Prince plays an unforgettable mood music cocktail. Stereo compilation which claims it's "The complete stereo experience for the discerning listener, the ultimate soundtrack to groovy nights on the rhythm rug." Includes "Light My Fire" and "I Say A Little A Prayer"). Please e-mail me privately if you have any interest in any of the above CD's. Thankyouverymuch! Doug dfrisby@mgm.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pea Hicks Subject: Re: (exotica) Abstract Female Vocals Date: 09 Jul 1997 19:36:22 -0700 Lou Smith wrote: > > At 05:27 PM 7/7/97 -0400, you wrote: > >> > I can't get enough of Yma Sumac, Bas Sheva, and Leda Annest, but > can't seem > >> > to find any other LPs with abstract vocals. > > >After following this thread for a while, I've suddenly remembered a > couple of > >other artists who may be of interest. They're both more avant garde > than > >exotica, but definitely exotic. > >Joan La Barbara just for the sake of completeness, two other vocalists roughly in the same category as Joan (but I guess i say this only because they've all sung with Philip Glass and Steve Reich at one point or another) are Dora Ohrenstein and Lisa Bielawa. I'm pretty sure both of them have had their own recordings out in the past. Also, let's not forget Kate Bush. (that one was maybe too obvious...) I think probably her most vocally acrobatic album is "The Dreaming." pretty exotic stuff, as a matter of fact... oh and don't forget all those Bulgarian choral groups... easily some of the most beautiful/harrowing/bizarre music humankind has achieved... pea -- Pea Hicks "Memory is my drug of choice." <---Realm 'O' The Optigan---> http://www.pilot.com/optigan Who will be the next to brave the *perils* of the VIRTUAL OPTIGAN??! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pea Hicks Subject: (exotica) re: weird female vox Date: 10 Jul 1997 01:00:50 -0700 Lou Smith wrote: > > At 05:27 PM 7/7/97 -0400, you wrote: > >> > I can't get enough of Yma Sumac, Bas Sheva, and Leda Annest, but > can't seem > >> > to find any other LPs with abstract vocals. > > >After following this thread for a while, I've suddenly remembered a > couple of > >other artists who may be of interest. They're both more avant garde > than > >exotica, but definitely exotic. > >Joan La Barbara just for the sake of completeness, two other vocalists roughly in the same category as Joan (but I guess i say this only because they've all sung with Philip Glass and Steve Reich at one point or another) are Dora Ohrenstein and Lisa Bielawa. I'm pretty sure both of them have had their own recordings out in the past. Also, let's not forget Kate Bush. (that one was maybe too obvious...) I think probably her most vocally acrobatic album is "The Dreaming." pretty exotic stuff, as a matter of fact... oh and don't forget all those Bulgarian choral groups... easily some of the most beautiful/harrowing/bizarre music humankind has achieved... pea -- Pea Hicks "Memory is my drug of choice." <---Realm 'O' The Optigan---> http://www.pilot.com/optigan Who will be the next to brave the *perils* of the VIRTUAL OPTIGAN??! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pop-culture-editor@amazon.com Subject: (exotica) Your Editors Pop Culture E-mail from Amazon.com Books Date: 09 Jul 1997 17:34:12 -0700 (PDT) ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- The principal titles reviewed in this Expert Editors message include: "Ultra Lounge: The Lexicon of Easy Listening" by Dylan Jones Publisher: Universe and "Hi-Fi's & Hi-Balls: The Golden Age of the American Bachelor" by Steven Guarnaccia and Bob Sloan Publisher: Chronicle Books You can find these books and more at http://www.amazon.com/pop-culture ****** I think that the resurgence of lounge music and "bachelor pad" culture is about our desire to return to a less innocent age, a time before the Moral Majority and political correctness. Then again, maybe early '60s cocktail style has reappeared simply as part of our never ending attempt at avoiding originality by dredging up the past ... with '80s nostalgia, '70s nostalgia, and hippie nostalgia already waning, mid-century pop-beat hipsterism was just the next in line for re-commercialization. Anyway, since the owl of Minerva is about to fly on this trend, it's time for the requisite volumes telling us what hip means this year. "Ultra Lounge: The Lexicon of Easy Listening" by Dylan Jones provides an encyclopedic overview of mellow sounds from the late '50s to today's trip-hop. Jones knows his hi-fi history, and, while appreciative of such contemporary groovesters as Tricky, Swing out Sister, and Pizzicato Five, is always able to show their debt to John Barry, Burt Bacharach, or Les Baxter. Jones's broad vision is sure to introduce the reader to previously undiscovered gems of martini-ready music. For a visual treat, I'd recommend "Hi-fi's & Hi-balls: The Golden Age of the American Bachelor." Ostensibly by Steven Guarnaccia and Bob Sloan, the real hero of this book is Susan Hochbaum, the designer, who found and arranged an incredible collection of Rat Pack-era advertisements, record and book covers, furniture and interior design photos, and assorted chachkas. Beautifully photographed in chromatic, technicolor tones by Pete McArthur and a variety of forgotten '60s shutterbugs, the book's art overshadows the text and is a pleasure in itself, showcasing the asymmetrical styles of the era without compromising the look by giving away the book's late '90s vintage. Even the background colors are carefully chosen from tones popular in the age of the swingin' single. These volumes should tide us over until Great Depression culture makes its inevitable comeback and all the hip-cats start hanging out on street corners selling apples and chanting "Brother, can you spare a dime?" --James DiGiovanna, who is writing a dissertation on the influence of Renaissance humanism upon 19th-century aestheticism, swears that he is innocent, and reminds us that we must consider him as such until proven otherwise. You'll find James's favorite pop culture books on the shelves of Amazon.com http://www.amazon.com/pop-culture ****** And now, a book from Turner Publications: "Censored Hollywood: Sex, Sin, & Violence on Screen," by Frank Miller. You'll find this book at http://www.amazon.com/pop-culture This provocative book chronicles the history of Hollywood's production code and the modern rating system. Frank Miller shows how film censorship reflects the morals, sexuality, and politics of each decade, and explores why violence has replaced sex as the target of censorship. ****** We want to be sure that our Editors e-mail message delivers the type and quality of information you want to receive. To register your opinion, hit "reply," and make the first word of your message: good Your thumbs-up. OK Not bad. bad You were expecting better. If you'd like to make additional comments, we'd love to hear them. Just include them after your one-word vote. ****** If you have friends who might enjoy this mailing, please feel free to forward it to them. To become a new Editors subscriber, or to sign up for additional categories, visit http://www.amazon.com/editors ****** To unsubscribe from this mailing, send a blank e-mail message to unsubscribe-pop-culture@amazon.com Copyright 1997 Amazon.com, Inc. All rights reserved. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Katie Eagan & Jeff Phillips Subject: (exotica) betty shabazz Date: 10 Jul 1997 13:01:22 -0700 Dear I.C., The _New York Times_ has referred to the police department's accusation that Malcolm, Shabazz's grandson, started the fire numerous times in the articles that came out during her time in the hospital, as well as after her death. The family disagrees, and that has also been stated in a few _NYT_ articles. As far as I know, the issue has not been resolved yet, but I'm sure the _NYT_ will report on it when it does. Katie Eagan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: loidlink@pixi.com Subject: (exotica) Iz Gets Capitol Farewell Date: 10 Jul 1997 10:51:08 -1000 Aloha exoticans... Honolulu, HI-- It was a sad but proud day for Hawaiian culture yesterday. Israel Ka'anoi'i Kamakawiwo'ole died June 26 at 38 from complications brought on by morbid obesity. 5,000 people jammed the State Capitol to pay their respect for Kamakawiwo'ole, only the fifth person to lie in state, and certainly the first musician! The headline of this morning's front page feature in The Honolulu Advertiser declared, "Iz Gets Capitol Farewell". A beloved contemporary Hawaiian musician originally with The Makaha Sons of Ni'ihau, "Bruddah Iz"... "was a man of the people who loved to play his music at the beach. His sense of what it meant to be Hawaiian- and to be proud of that- was a central theme for his music." Songs like "White Sandy Beach" and "Hawai'i '78" communicate his aloha through his lyrics and beautiful voice. MC/Musician, Skylark said it all with "I think the greatest thing he gave to us was unconditional love. He touched our lives and he made sure each one of you felt his aloha." So say a little prayer for Iz today... 'A'ohe manu noho i ka lipo e pakele i ke kapi'o No bird of the deep forest can escape his snare. (Said of a person who can win the love of anyone he chooses) Fluid Loeka/Don Tiki # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Queen of the Cocktail Nation Date: 10 Jul 1997 19:36:41 -0400 > From: Tony Wilds > Subject: (exotica) Queen of the Cocktail Nation > > After due consideration (next to none) of the flower of contemporary > womanhood (Lounge Laura Taylor, Tura Satana, Martha Stewart) Has anyone any word of Laura? It's seeming less like "a month" and more like "forever." m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Randall Rothenberg Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Lounge Attack!! Date: 10 Jul 1997 23:13:48 -0400 (EDT) In response to Ashley, I just want to point out that: (a) He and I saw each other this evening and were not only friendly, but traded business ideas, etc. So this is an *intellectual* debate. (b) The suit I was modeling in Esquire was *not* terribly new anmd not at all retro, but was a modern ensemble purchased at Paul Stuart (but glad you noticed anyway). (c) To say that thousands upon thousands of people in cities all over America and the world are dressing to the 999999s, ordering cosmopolitans, trading detailed arcana about Martin Denny, and collecting tikis because it's "just the music" seems willfully blind to me, and ignores vast amounts of literature about the public nature of consumption. So much so that I don't even know where to begin to respond. (d) The idea that "lounge" -- or whatever you want to call it; I think labels are immaterial in this case -- is "Republican ambient" was not at all retailed by me, but by critics, in this case, particularly, Salon magazine. In fact, given lounge's direct antecedents in the Americanized punk movement, and given that its progenitors in this country were reacting quite explicitly against the pervasive influence of "rockism," I'd say that lounge qualifies as an honestly radical, rather than reactionary movement. Indeed, like punk, lounge adherents' affecting of discredited "mainstream" cultural forms and styles can easily be interpreted as a radical rejection of "acceptable" alternative cultural forms. As I wrote in Esquire, it's a reaction against an "official avant garde." That lounge has become (at, e.g., Greatest Bar on Earth, even Bar D'O) an acceptable, if not yet official, avant garde itself is, of course, the fate of most outsider cultural movements. I mean, I too was saddened when Ed Wood movies became a cool thing to love, having loved them 25 years ago. But I console myself with the fact that it's now easier to see them. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt McClellan Subject: (exotica) Abstract Vocals Date: 10 Jul 1997 22:34:46 -0500 Another artist of interest might be Jeanne Lee although she definitely is on the avant garde/jazz tip. She can take a word and turn it into a "song" - like "Angel Chile" in which she gets all she can out of the word "Naima". It's on a hard-to-find album called "Conspiracy" if you care. It's pretty crazy. Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Micheleflp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Demographics, etc. Date: 11 Jul 1997 00:14:11 -0400 (EDT) Robert Brooks Writes: << At 02:46 PM 7/8/97 -0400, Joe Kilmartin wrote: >In their book *13th Gen*, Neil Howe and Bill Strauss make some pretty >convincing arguements that the generation born between 1960 and 1980 show a >marked similarity to the generation born between 1920-1940, as opposed to >the "boomer" generation of 1940-1960, if only because of socio/economic and >cultural similarities >> Does anyone know exactly what the characteristics are of the generation born between 1920 and 1940? This is an interesting sociological question and may have some bearing on why today's 30-somethings have an affinity to Lounge. Along these lines I had a recent email exchange with David ("Dlsmay@aol.com) about the generational theory. He was talking about collectors and a theory he heard about that people collect things from the era just before their generation. So those of us born in the early sixties are drawn to the late 1950s early 1960s. The theory states this is because the cultural artifacts of that time were around us in abundance but were not tainted by real life experience, since we'd be too young to actually remember the realities of that time period. Likewise, the theory goes, we don't like the later 60's because we do remember that time period. This argument can be framed in a broader sense as "the grass is always greener on the other side of the tracks." But also that we, as a generation, look at that era with rose colored glasses because we didn't live in it and don't know about the day-to-day realities of it. Well, personally this all sounds plausible to me. I certainly have a strong distaste for the later 1960's - especially fashion-wise (although music was okay) I don't see any reason for me idolizing those ugly clothes my parents made me wear when I was a kid - a maxi dress or the very ugly lime green bell-bottom hip-huggers with rhinestones down the side. The other issue we discussed was the prevalence of ex-punks in lounge. David had a theory about reclaiming the past through filters, I don't want to go into it here, perhaps he will post it for all to read. I gave it some thought and I've often wondered why punks have such an affinity for 60's cars and thriftstore junk. Ashley is really right about what the punk movement entailed - a rejection of societal norms and a political statement. Depending on where you were on the globe as a punk, had an effect on what the rebellion was about. For example the beach punks and So. California punks in general were rejecting the sameness of the suburbia phenomenon. Personally I think that people who are drawn to musical movements or scenes are just people who are musically inclined - very into music - it holds special meaning in their lives, more so than the average person (who doesn't get that heavily involved with buying records or participating in an actual music scene). I feel that people into punk may be drawn to Lounge because of the love of the retro culture that the music holds (this is keeping in mind that we are talking about punks our age, which fits with the model about collecting things just before our time), also because of the similarity in the scenes/movements, i.e., lounge is a small music scene, it is alternative and therefore easily graspable and not a hard leap to make. It has scene components - like a club scene and a "DIY" independent music label scene. It is clothing-compatible (as I've stated I use the same wardrobe - I've dressed in 1950/60's dresses since I first got into the punk scene and they are perfect for the lounge club), it satisfies our need for more sophisticated musical offerings - after 15+ years of punk, it is starting to sound pretty stale to these ears! Well, I'm throwing this out there. I know you old timers on the list must be getting sick of me by now, but I hope you all will ad your infinite wisedoms to these remarks of ours. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Micheleflp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Demographics/Lounge Attack Date: 11 Jul 1997 00:16:08 -0400 (EDT) Here we go again with the demographics. I've been discussing the Lounge-attack issue with a friend of mine at work - a genuine hippy from the 1960's who graduated from high school in '69. He's a political upstart and an artist, so I think he qualifies. Anyway, he was a kid during the 1950's and says it was a really warped time-period - much unlike how us '60-'66 kids are picturing it: the bomb (and the constant drills at school where they were taught to dive under their desks even tho the gov't knew that would do little to protect them), the Red Scare, sexual repression, etc. He believes that the 60's hippy movement was galvanized or coelesced around the war movement and that the war was sort of like the straw that broke the camel's back. He says the hippy thing happened as a severe reaction to the 1950's culture. Okay back to the subject..... He says the lounge music was what his parents were listening to in the 1950's, so the hippies were rebelling against their music - giving some credance to the argument presented here in the exotica list, that some of these lounge-hating writers are appalled that we like the music they hated. But, the confusion is that Lounge music covers 1950's through the 1970's period and therefore cannot be tied to a single generation. For example - look at the Audrey Hepburn movie, Breakfast at Tiffany's. Now she is supposed to be 20-something and it takes place in the 1960's, but instead of being a hippy, she is "digging" lounge music. So I asked my hippy friend - "what about that?" He says that the music was going on all during that period and appealed to any folks who were in the older age group during that period (So does that mean that Audrey Hepburn was portraying a nerd in that movie?). He ads that at that time, in the hippy culture, it was really uncool to like lounge. This is all very confusing because I keep trying to tie the music to a specific generation and of course in reality if you did a poll at a certain moment back then, you might find people from all age groups like Lounge music, just like there's 50 year olds liking punk and 8 year old liking it. So in anycase, this is why I think the theory about all the writers being babyboomers is pretty suspect. Do we actually know that all these writers are in the same age group? We don't. What if some of them are 20 year olds or our age, well then that blows the theory out of the water, doesn't it? - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Magnus Sandberg Subject: (exotica) Good Time Jazz Date: 11 Jul 1997 16:23:38 +0200 Finds in a antiqueshop today on my lunchbreak: Firehouse Five plus 2 -"Firehouse Five plus 2 goes south!" Good Time Jazz Record co. L-12018 With linernotes + drawing on the back by Walt Kelly. This LP feels and looks pretty old. Anyone knows its age? ..."Firehouse Five Plus Two. This band, made up of artists and animators, played evenings at Disneyland, after working on Disney animated features during the day. " -As an old cartoonist this was a treat! Mike Pedicin -"Musical Medicine by Mike Pedicin" Apollo LP 484 Nice cover with a redhead (not that cute actually) in front off different kind of chemicals. Spike Jones -"Cant stop murdering vol 3" jm 2-8021 doubble LP Eydie Gormé -"Vamps, the Roaring 20`s" ABC 218 sexy cover 7" EP George Wright -"Encores" HIFIRECORD EPR-702-2 at the mighty wurlitzer pipe organ. "Quiet Village" and three other tunes. ....And some swedish jazz, and a nice double EP with Les Paul & Mary Ford. Havent listened to this score yet, I´ll have to talk to the boss about buying a grammophone to the office. -Nice weekend to y´all! -------- Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: (exotica) Thursdays at the Good Love Bar Date: 11 Jul 1997 10:26:38 -0400 Excellence comes to Grunge Town. First, the superficialities: candles galore, paper lanterns, no jagermeister or bad tikis. Great vibe, no hassle, no bozos, beauty all around, illustrious crew from film and Homicide... My musical mentor, DJ Alan Rutberg, spins at The Good Love Bar every Thursday now. This master of Afro-lounge, Soul Exoddica, Jungle Funk, Hypno-Sambatronic Juju Beatnikism spins the very best. Some recognizable warm-up tunes come from Last Poets; Love, Sex, and the Zodiac; Afro-Harping; Dave Pike's Limbo Carnival; How to Speak Hip; and wild, rare soul on labels like King. It's Afro, it's in his collection -- yet it's perfect for cocktail dancing. Then it's on to Latin and serious samba, much heavier than bossa nova. And the legendary Afro Temple LP, which he kindly let me borrow for the Sabu pages. The bomb. Got me stopped on the street by other DJs. Fortunately, we mortals can get it on CD through a Swedish online source, although Dusty Groove promises to get it over here a.s.a.p. The Good Love Bar is close to ideal, more of a party than a bar. Might be some others of us spinning there soon too. Go for it Bump! tony The Wilds Scene -> http://www.charm.net/~wilds/ "An avalanche is never welcome. Sabu constitutes an exception." -- Lasse Mattsson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: (exotica) Sabu Martinez Home Page Date: 11 Jul 1997 10:49:46 -0400 Quite apart from my efforts, this is the Summer of Sabu. Orgy in Rhythm is spectacular. Domestic Blue Note. Then get the other Blakey/Sabu CDs. (And 20-bit --wow-- first acceptable standard for CDs.) Afro Temple on CD. There have been boot pressings of the LP for years, one done in Maryland even. Don't pass up the LP if you see it. It's worth $$$. GREAT! There's a fantastic new double-LP reissue (on LP) out now. TBA soon. Writer of the liner notes is a Sabu authority who happens to be local. I thank Magnus, Alan, others of you, and especially Sabu's former student who contributed so much, most audibly a MIDI conga rhythm "inspired by Sabu." I absolutely love it, but don't expect "the Avalanche," i.e., don't mistake it for the wildest exotica there is -- Sabu! Find out about this wonderful man and his many recordings at the Sabu Martinez [Memorial] Home Page. Via the Wilds Scene, URL below, or directly: http://www.charm.net/~wilds/Sabu/index.html Hey Don Pierson! Do I qualify as a fan now? Thanks for the inspiration and a high mark for aspiration! Tony Wilds The Wilds Scene: LPs * Sabu Home Page * Tiki Gallery http://www.charm.net/~wilds/ Email lists: new LP arrivals, web pages/sites, comps To receive, email: wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@pop.tiac.net (Br. Cleve) Subject: Re: (exotica) Demographics/Lounge Attack Date: 11 Jul 1997 12:35:07 -0400 Michele wrote: > For example - look at the Audrey Hepburn movie, Breakfast at Tiffany's. >Now she is >supposed to be 20-something and it takes place in the 1960's, but instead of >being a hippy, she is "digging" lounge music. "Breakfast....." came out in 1961, 4 years before the Diggers started the free soup kitchen in the Haight (and with it the hippie movement). She's more of a 'bohemian' free spirit. >He ads that at that time, in the hippy culture, it was really >uncool to like lounge. He's right, of course, and that adds to its charm. In the early days of punk, the easiest way to piss off some hippie was to extol the virtues of The Archies, or the Bay City Rollers, or any bubblegum act. That's what started New Wave (before The Knack and The Cars spawned countless bad imitators); the power pop scene was embracing those 2 minute long 45's (which were also unhip in the late 60's) as a reaction to the overblown states of Art & Progressive Rock, as well as understanding the fine line that connected, say, The McCoys to The Lemon Pipers to Gary Glitter to The NY Dolls to Blondie...... >So in anycase, this is why I think the theory about all the writers being >babyboomers is pretty suspect. Do we actually know that all these writers >are in the same age group? We don't. Well, I know Milo Miles (the Salon writer) personally; he's pushing 50. The fellow who wrote the virulent anti-lounge article in Absolute Sound indicated he was about 55. Robert Christgau, another outspoken opponent, is around 50. But I have no idea about the LA Weekly writer's age; an anti-lounge piece in New York Press two months ago was written by someone probably around 30 years old, judging from their references. So, no, they're not all in the same age group, but they all suffer from rock itch -the disease which makes them believe that only rock is cool. Which isn't to say that it *isn't*, but just that a lot of other things are, too. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com Subject: (exotica) I've Got Two Questions Date: 11 Jul 1997 12:56:15 -0400 (EDT) 1. Who is Nick Nastos (or Nantos) and His Fireballers? Great album called "Guitars on Fire" on Strand with very little info. 2. That "Dan & Dale" Batman lp that is really Sun Ra and the Blues Project - could that have also been released on Design records? It's credited to the Sensational Batboys. Thanks! Bob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Tiki and exotic places Olando or Fort Myers Beach Date: 11 Jul 1997 13:39:03 -0400 (EDT) >One of the best locations I have ever enjoyed is the "Blue Lizard Lounge" in Vancouver! That club represents brilliant taste! Agreed. Beyond that for Tiki is the Mai Kai in Fort Lauderdale # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aj Subject: (exotica) Hippies and Demographics Date: 11 Jul 1997 13:45:07 +0000 Michel writes: > the 60's hippy movement was galvanized or coelesced around the war movement > and that the war was sort of like the straw that broke the camel's back. He > says the hippy thing happened as a severe reaction to the 1950's culture. I've been watching this debate for some time now and feel compelled to jump in at this point to react against the excessively Amero-centric nature of much of the commentary. While many of the arguments put forth to explain the emergence of lounge culture in the US might seem plausible, they do not explain how or why "lounge" had thrived elsewhere long before the genre was recognized as a movement in North America. In Japan, lounge/ jazz classics have long been popular karaoke tunes, including not only such American fare as Frank Sinatra and Peggy Lee, but also an incredible variety of semi-traditional Japanese songs produced in orchestral or big band style. In France, there has always been demand for clever lyrics and quality production numbers. Artists such as Serge Gainsbourg, Dalida, and Les Campagnons de la Chanson blended American jazz influences of the forties with traditional French musical styles such as Musette (a sort of street accordian music, "Tin Pan Alley" a la francaise.) These and other icons of French musicianship are still well respected, even amongst the younger generations (especially true of Gainsbourg.) As in most places, youth culture in Japan and France is dominated by rock and roll and its many derivatives. But good song writing and clever orchestration, particularly when based on traditional forms of music, has never really gone out of style in these places. (An even stronger case could be made for Greece, where trad Greek music is even played at disco's.) Hippies and demographics don't offer much insight into the rise and fall and rise of orchestrated music, particularly when trends are viewed on a global scale. Aj # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: "Randall I'd like to answer your response" Date: 11 Jul 1997 13:39:33 -0400 (EDT) >The whole exotica movement (revival?) is far more wide spread in the private dens of America (as well as other countries) than it is in the club scenes. That explains why there are no large Lounge clubs - only small ones which draw small usually regular crowds? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: (exotica) Demographics/Lounge Attack Date: 11 Jul 1997 15:51:08 -0500 Br. Cleve wrote: > rock itch -the disease which makes them believe that only rock is > cool. Which isn't to say that it *isn't*, but just that a lot of > other things are, too. here here!! Didn't someone mention when this was discussed before that as we grow older our idea of 'coolness' becomes less limited, thus allowing a broader spectrum of music, fashion, etc. to be enjoyed. I don't quite buy the idea of a generation looking towards one specific era that immediately preceded them, and certainly don't believe that everyone in my generation is into lounge. Didn't a retro 60's, then 70's thing happen just before the lounge thing? And isn't the British version of loungecore more rooted in the late 60's/early 70's? I was an early 60's birth, yet haven't the slightest nostalgia for the 50's... really. There's an appreciation of industrial design and architecture maybe, (and music of course) but beyond that, no thanks! Somehow I find the individual testimonies of more interest than the common denominator question, which as valid as it may be paints itself into a corner pretty quickly - pro or con. Someone made a comparison between Combustible Edison and their earlier band, Christmas... now THAT I find interesting, as when I first hear Com Ed something in the melodies and counter-melodies rang a bell. Then I saw Cudahy's name and 'bingo!' Talk about a common thread between very different genres. listening to the Dickies on bright yellow vinyl, kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dfrisby@mgm.com (Doug Frisby) Subject: (exotica) Instrumental Vs Vocal Date: 11 Jul 1997 16:53:22 -0700 I think it's high time for an annoying blanket statement. I don't like vocals mixin with my Mood Music! Plain and simple. I don't know how it started... perhaps it started for me with soundtracks to old 60's and 70's movies. I'd listen to the Goldfinger soundtrack and bypass the Shirley Bassey cut with my needle and play the rest. Or when I discovered "More Specials" B-side, I learned that you don't need vocals to have great (mood) music. What I do know is I like the vocal as an instrument (zu zu zu) but not assaulting me at the forefront. May I go so far as to say, vocals to me are like adding Mountain Dew to a Martini. You just don't need them. I'm not alone. There are friends and acquaintances that have strictly jazz/exotica/space age pop with nary a vocal included. Believe it. I'll take "The Three Suns" Fever over Peggy Lee's hit anytime of the day. Sure, there are many exceptions and sure... the vocalists outsell the instrumentalists 4 to 1, but that's because the majority of the music buying public are the same people that stay home and watch "Home Improvement" and wear "Just Visiting This Planet" T-shirts. I'm 75% serious about what I'm saying. Anyone with me? Doug (standing alone in a very big, empty room) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Instrumental Vs Vocal Date: 11 Jul 1997 20:39:30 -0400 > From: Doug Frisby > Subject: (exotica) Instrumental Vs Vocal > > I think it's high time for an annoying blanket statement. I don't like > vocals mixin with my Mood Music! Plain and simple. I appreciate what you're saying, but as a fickle listener, I can't stick to one or the other. Sometimes ya feel like a song -- sometimes ya feel like a tune. The beauty of instrumental music is that it simply is what it is and that's what it is (sez Popeye). Instrumentals never lie (or at least it's a highly difficult feat). Songs with lyrics bring in all of the complexities of poetry and literature -- this has the usual good and bad sides. Also on the good side, a singer can give you a feeling of human (or humane) interaction. Or something like that. papa-oom-mow-mow -- papa-oom-mow-ma-mow, m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Gerwitz" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Lounge Attack!! Date: 11 Jul 1997 20:42:02 -0700 Rather than prepare the RSI-producing rant required to properly explain lounge/exotica within the historical context of music and society(esp. 20th Century), I'll contribute the following slightly edited definitions from the office dictionary: lounge: vb: to act or move idly or lazily: loaf: to pass time idly lounge: n: a place for lounging: as a: a room in a private home or public place for leisure occupations: living room, also lobby b: a room in a usually public building or vehicle often combining lounging, smoking, and toilet facilities. (Welcome to the Winnebago Lounge.) Now that sure sounds like Heaven to me ! On to exotica: exotica: things excitingly different or unusual, esp. literary or artistic items having an exotic theme or nature exotic: 1. introduced from another country, not native to the place found 2.(archaic) outlandish, alien 3. strikingly or excitingly different or unusual 4. of or relating to strip-tease (yowzah). That's it in a nutshell, although I love the creative definitions already proposed by members of our world-wide exotica/lounge cult (except I couldn't make heads or tails of what that Englishman was talking about.) JamesBR@wco.com - First Cohort ex-hippie boomer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Drasnin on CD Date: 12 Jul 1997 00:17:31 -0400 (EDT) Yeah, it turned out that Pickwick owned the tapes.....what a mess. The only think is that I've heard that mine sounds better than the Pickwick release, and the Pickwick release has 10 songs, mine has 12! Best, Lee # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Micheleflp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Lounge Attack!! Date: 12 Jul 1997 01:37:27 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-11 12:27:45 EDT, randallf@echonyc.com wrote: << In response to Ashley, I just want to point out that: (a) He and I saw each other this evening and were not only friendly, but traded business ideas, etc. So this is an *intellectual* debate.>> I think everyone on this list know this is just a friendly discussion and I think everyone has a gained a great deal of insight from both of your points of view, so by all means please continue! <<(c) To say that thousands upon thousands of people in cities all over America and the world are dressing to the 999999s, ordering cosmopolitans, trading detailed arcana about Martin Denny, and collecting tikis because it's "just the music" seems willfully blind to me, and ignores vast amounts of literature about the public nature of consumption. So much so that I don't even know where to begin to respond.>> David, Tiki Bob and I have decided that there is a sociological underpinning - read our latest postings. However I think all of us can agree that we couldnt be participating if we didn't above all, love the music. Still, I do think there are plenty of people out there (I think Ashley called them "club kids" - but us punks would have called them poseurs, right Ashley?) that are just on the bandwagon for as long as it stays "in" to do in their set. The funniest thing I saw recently along these lines and I'd been meaning to share it with the listees, is a posting on the AOL "Cocktails" board from a guy who lives in Connecticut. He writes: "Lounge Apparel: Are there any brand names of clothes that are considered lounge apparel? If so, are there particular stores that they can be found in?" (I thought you'd all find this funny, I still chuckle about this whenever I read it) <<(d) The idea that "lounge" -- or whatever you want to call it; I think labels are immaterial in this case -- is "Republican ambient" was not at all retailed by me, but by critics, in this case, particularly, Salon magazine. In fact, given lounge's direct antecedents in the Americanized punk movement, and given that its progenitors in this country were reacting quite explicitly against the pervasive influence of "rockism," I'd say that lounge qualifies as an honestly radical, rather than reactionary movement. Indeed, like punk, lounge adherents' affecting of discredited "mainstream" cultural forms and styles can easily be interpreted as a radical rejection of "acceptable" alternative cultural forms. As I wrote in Esquire, it's a reaction against an "official avant garde." That lounge has become (at, e.g., Greatest Bar on Earth, even Bar D'O) an acceptable, if not yet official, avant garde itself is, of course, the fate of most outsider cultural movements. I mean, I too was saddened when Ed Wood movies became a cool thing to love, having loved them 25 years ago. But I console myself with the fact that it's now easier to see them. >> Well, this is the best sociol/psycho theory I've heard for punks going lounge, although I can't say that I, myself, fit into this category. But yes, the industry had co-opted punk with Green Day, etc., and now it is normal to be alternative. I would imagine that some long-time alternative people would be looking for an alternative to the alternative (mainstream) so this makes sense to those who are only looking for a soft landing. These same people, I suppose will be moving on when the next thing hits. But Lounge seems far from your characterization of it as an almost mainstream accepted everybody-is-doing-it phenomenon. At least what I can see of it here in L.A. ...... "Lounge who???" The Republican Ambient: A Simple Matter of Paraphrasing: Well, I was just commenting to my boyfriend how rock writers have the heavy job of having to write alot of crap about nothing. If you read any of these band write-ups like the "Pick of the Night" in the L.A. Weekly, they can write a whole paragraph about a band and when you are done reading it, you ask yourself, did they actually say anything??? You look back over it and realize that there is only one discernable fact that was given about the whole band - the rest is "window dressing." Perhaps that whole spiel was just a lot of window dressing for this poor writer (the first one who did the Lounge attack, for example) who was told by his editor to do a write up on the Lounge phenomenon. Then other rock papers, trying to keep up with the latest trends, tell their reporters to do write-ups on the Lounge scene. So they do the "research" which basically entails digging up what other writers have already written about it, and then they write it up (basically paraphrase someone else's work). That's why word for word, some of the stuff I read in one article sounded exactly like that NPR commentary everyone was in a huff about a few months ago. Will wonders never cease! - Michele - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: (exotica) Instrumental Vs Vocal Date: 12 Jul 1997 03:33:19 -0600 > I think it's high time for an annoying blanket statement. I don't like > vocals mixin with my Mood Music! Plain and simple. I have heard this sort of thing before. I have been often criticised as one who hates vocalists, particularly females, but this is not true. I often REALLY love vocals as much as I really love instrumentals. I tend to like voices that sound unbelievably sincere or exceedingly bored. Not to mention the ones that are just a bit weird too. As a DJ, I must say that playing to people who usually don't know much about exotica, the vocal tracks usually go down much better. People have something they can hook into, if you know what I mean. Instrumentals are definitely more for the trained ear. Most people can't really get into brilliant arranging. But I do appreciate a good arrangement. And a good voice too..... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: (exotica) Deep Groove/Wilds Sounds, 1st estate-sale list Date: 12 Jul 1997 11:00:10 -0400 Deep Groove* joins Wilds Sounds in an exciting vinyl venture. New page at Wilds Sounds (at the Wilds Scene, URL below) for new, clean LPs from our recent estate-sale stock. Prices are what we'll charge at shows for record collectors (once we make a dent in the non-exotic/space-age stuff). First show tonight. There aren't too many listed now, but we'll have maybe 150-200 sealed LPs and even boxes up shortly. There's a lot of turnover going on, especially as a lot gets fire-saled, so bear with me as I try to keep the pages updated. Thanks, all you DJs and other wild-groove shoppers. tony *refers to the groove in the label of old LP records -- a general indication of a record recorded well, pressed well, and heavy with rich, beautiful sound. The Wilds Scene -> http://www.charm.net/~wilds/ "An avalanche is never welcome. Sabu constitutes an exception." -- Lasse Mattsson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ghostown@ix.netcom.com Subject: (exotica) The "Ultra Lounge" Rip-Off Date: 12 Jul 1997 11:14:33 -0400 * * * * * * pop-culture-editor@amazon.com wrote: > Subject: "Ultra Lounge: The Lexicon of Easy Listening" by Dylan Jones > Publisher: Universe > [Review:] "Ultra Lounge: The Lexicon of Easy Listening" by Dylan Jones > provides an encyclopedic overview of mellow sounds from the > late '50s to today's trip-hop...etc. The above book is now officially--and thankfully--out of print. So-called author/editor Dylan Jones appropriated four sets of my liner notes (from Esquivel & RCA Space Age Pop CDs) without permission, and without payment. I learned of this use after two friends "congratulated" me on the book's publication. I assumed it was a little prank. It was--the publisher's. By the time I informed the publishers (Pavilion, UK, and Universe/Rizzoli, US) of this infringement, EMI-Capitol had joined the fray. Seems that not only did Mr. Jones appropriate a set of R.J. Smith liner notes (from MONDO EXOTICA--also without permission or payment), the book title (Ultra Lounge) constitutes trademark infringement against Capitol's CD series, and Capitol LP covers were reproduced without permission. All in all, a shabby job of clearing rights. I was negotiating a fee for my purloined work when EMI-Cap attorneys insisted that Pavilion & Universe withdraw the book from circulation and destroy all copies. From EMI-Cap's legal department: "[T]he book has a great number of factual inaccuracies, ... and we do not wish to invest the time and trouble to correct these problems. Rather, we simply want the book taken off the market." Hey, presto!--instant Collector's Item!! I never saw a nickel, never will. It was a lousy book anyway, whose only redeeming features were my essays and Mr. Smith's. Remember: Space Age Pop is always more fun to hear than to read about. If you see Mr. Jones, let him know I'd be happy to deduct his unpaid debt in community service hours. And if he has any free time, I need a few windows washed and the catbox cleaned. Haven't had time for domestic chores; too busy chasing deadbeat clients. Feel free to boycott Universe and Pavilion books, with my blessings. --Irwin Chusid * * * * * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Instrumental Vs Vocal Date: 12 Jul 1997 14:40:28 -0400 (EDT) Doug said: << I'll take "The Three Suns" Fever over Peggy Lee's hit anytime of the day. Sure, there are many exceptions and sure... the vocalists outsell the instrumentalists 4 to 1, but that's because the majority of the music buying public are the same people that stay home and watch "Home Improvement" and wear "Just Visiting This Planet" T-shirts. I'm 75% serious about what I'm saying. Anyone with me? >> ...i'm with you...although sometimes, after hearing nothing but instrumental versions of a space age pop standard, it's good to hear a vocal version. For instance, I'm listening to Burl Ives sing "The Moon of Manakoora" right now and I'm loving it - from the Decca LP "Burl Ives On the Beach at Waikiki." Burl on the cover wearing a hawaiian shirt, seaman's cap and flanked by two island girls in grass skirts. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J. Diamond" Subject: (exotica) Jack Diamond Music Date: 12 Jul 1997 10:18:11 -0700 Hello, My name's Jack and I sell high quality previously enjoyed records from primarily the late 1940's through the 70's, specializing in BUT not limited to; Exotica, Space Age Pop, West Coast Jazz, Beatnik Poetry, Spoken Word, Instrumental Steel Guitars, 60's Instrumental Pop/Rock Guitar, TV and Film Soundtracks, Easy Listening, Beatnik and Private Eye Jazz, Outer Space Exotica, Wordless Vocals, Male and Female Jazz/Jazz Pop Vocals, Moog, Musique Concrete, Electronics, Psychedelic, Blues, R & B, Jump, Rockabilly, Country Jazz, Theremin, Nude/Cheesecake Album Covers, Jungley Tropical Rhythms Pounding Out Voodoo Beams of Love and Erotica AND much much more;-) Much of the music that I play on my radio show at KFJC-FM (http://www.kfjc.org) KFJC now has an Audio Feed at their web site and you just may be able to pick us up through your computer! It's a god damn miracle Some of the LP's are expensive and some are not but 1 thing is for sure is that I don't sell junk. All killer no filler I have an e-mail mailing list in which I send out lists of LP's I have for sale that are graded Goldmine Collecting Standards *strict*, that have extensive "Liner Notes" describing the sounds that lie within the grooves leaving nothing to the imagination ;) Do you want to be on my e-mail mailing list ? If so then just reply with a "Hey Jack! Please add me to your mailing list dude" or some reasonable facsimile there of;) If not, then just don't. Thank you very much for your time and bye for now. Sincerely, Jack Diamond http://www.jackdiamond.com http://www.KFJC.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Demographics, etc. Date: 12 Jul 1997 14:57:54 -0400 (EDT) << Well, I'm throwing this out there. I know you old timers on the list must be getting sick of me by now, but I hope you all will ad your infinite wisedoms to these remarks of ours. >> i'm not sick of you and even if i was, it's nothing a press of the little button marked "delete" can't fix. which is exactly what i'll do the next time the subject "Demographics/Lounge Attack" or any other topic which refuses to die appears in my mailbox. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: (exotica) Folkiki Date: 12 Jul 1997 15:19:07 -0400 >Burl on the cover wearing a hawaiian shirt, seaman's cap and flanked by two >island girls in grass skirts. Hey! "Keep your eyes on the hands!" Speaking of the folk crossover: Enjoying Les Baxter's Balladeers singing "Sinner Man" with some heated words involving Mr. Satan. At last, the perfect segue between exotica and Little Marcy! Also, Bud and Travis --the poor man's Smothers Brothers-- are pretty funny on the double live Liberty LP. Chatter about Polyne-zhee-ans and stuff. tony The Wilds Scene: LPs * Sabu Home Page * Tiki Gallery http://www.charm.net/~wilds/ Email lists: new LP arrivals, web pages/sites, comps To receive, email: wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: (exotica) Re: Lounge Attack!! Date: 12 Jul 1997 14:39:21 -0500 Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > Well, this is the best sociol/psycho theory I've heard for punks > going lounge Interesting theory about lounge=rebellion, but the only problem, again, is that it's too specific.... too much of a generalization. After all, there are plenty of other musical genres besides 'lounge' to rebel from the mainstream with. Likewise, there are plenty of confirmed non-rebellious types who are into this stuff. Can't make much of a conclusion from that. So... here's my theory.. and it's a theory that's mine... I have this theory... and it doesn't involve dinasours (obscure nerdy Monty Python reference). Consider a parallel between popular tastes in fine arts and pop music. Say that punk was more than a symbolic apocalypse of 'rock and roll' in the same way that minimalism brought an end to modernism. What came afterwards? Critical rebellions against the monolithic grandaddy, or a magnification or reduction of it.... as well as appropriations taken from... well, everywhere - time and style-wise. That's just what's happening with pop music at the moment. Lounge is just one manifestation which has had an additional appeal to those cherishing thrifty collectible artifacts. The true test of this theory, which is mine, is to observe how varied kids' tastes are today. Compare that to the scope of what 30 and 40-somethings were listening to in their teen years (I'm talking about individuals, not as a whole). Also... those chain stores, well bashed by this list, are better these days at feeding our voracious appetite for an endless variety of genres... and good at picking up on and promoting perceived trends. kevin king xanadu@radix.net http://www.radix.net/~xanadu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Attack! Date: 12 Jul 1997 19:39:13 -0400 (EDT) Hey, as an old-timer (now 48!) all I can say is you young 'uns sure have a way with words. Why I never saw such intellectualizin' goin' on in my life over bad music (which I love, incidentally). I burned out on the 6T's rock revival in 1983--then archived the ENTIRE sweet soul era of the 6T's. The 7T's revival was quick, As a collector even then, all I hadda do was dig through my vinyl for a day or two, the 8T's revival--re-releases notwithstanding-- is not ready for 2 and a half years (the 20-year rule), and it was high time to dig up some new archival material to re-investigate. Along came Lounge/EZ/Exotica--I'm alive again!----Jimmy/Geezerhood is Powerful # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Folkiki Date: 12 Jul 1997 20:30:19 -0400 > From: Tony Wilds > Subject: Re: (exotica) Folkiki > > Speaking of the folk crossover: > > Enjoying Les Baxter's Balladeers singing "Sinner Man" with some heated > words involving Mr. Satan. Ah! Can you tell us more about this? I have a (rather beat) 7 inch of "Sinner Man" (Les Baxter, His Chorus and Orchestra; Vocal by Will Holt) and "Tango Of The Drums" (Les Baxter and His Orchestra; instrumental). "Sinner Man" is a blast indeed, a stuck-throttle ride straight to its apocalyptic Hollywood Hell climax (oh great -- now I'm lapsing into liner note cliche-speak). Didn't Nick Cave or someone like that do a cover of "Sinner Man" in the recent past? m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Attack II--The Sequel Date: 12 Jul 1997 20:38:47 -0400 (EDT) Just a little more on my previous posting.....I guess for a lot of us old-timers the Punk Era re-awakened us to what had gone down and how good it truly had been. It also created the "genrefication" of pop musics in a new way which really appealed to me. I don't believe that "garage" rock was an acknowledged genre before punkers and the concept fascinated me. I quickly burnt out though after compiling nugget after pebble after boulder, although I still love garage rock. I never was good at following Ian's rule in "Incredibly Strange Music" which is NEVER OVERPLAY YOUR RECORDS. Thus every disc-overy would be followed by overplay and burnout. I burned out on Garage Rock, Girl Groups, and Sweet Soul of the 6T's although I love both of them dearly to this day. This Lounge thing is like a breath of fresh air, although I continue to be a compulsive collector/over-player of it and suspect the same fate awaits.....Til then I am having a good time.......Jimmy/Make Mine Manzanilla! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Reading Subject: Re: (exotica) Abstract Female Vocals Date: 12 Jul 1997 17:40:28 -0700 Since many of the more obvious examples have already been cited, I just had to mention a personal favorite featuring wordless vocals. From 1979 (on ECM, no less), "Fluid Rustle" by bassist Eberhard Weber with Gary Burton on vibes and a young Bill Frisell on guitar. The voices are those of Norma Winstone (also of Azimuth, not to be confused with the Brazilian group Azymuth) and Bonnie Herman (formerly of Singers Unlimited). Not really jazz, certainly not lounge, but actually kind of exotic sounding in its own way, and just plain gorgeous in any case. Last time I checked it was available on CD, but could probably be found in a well-stocked used record store with a decent jazz section for around 5 bucks. Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: (exotica) I've Got Two Questions Date: 12 Jul 1997 20:01:45 -0500 HOUSEOBOB@aol.com wrote: > 2. That "Dan & Dale" Batman lp that is really Sun Ra and the Blues > Project - could that have also been released on Design records? > It's credited to the Sensational Batboys. I'm curious about this as well... never considered it. I posted about this Lp a few weeks ago when I found it. If it helps anyone to come up with the answer, the track listing is: Batman (theme) Mighty Mayhem Cheatin' Charlie Uppercut Blues Fight Flight The Villain Strikes Out With the In Crowd Behind the 8 Ball Mars' Visitor It's Murder! kevin king xanadu@radix.net http://www.radix.net/~xanadu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Ultra Lounge / R. J. Smith Inquiry Date: 12 Jul 1997 22:19:28 -0400 (EDT) Just who is R. J. Smith who writes the liner notes for the Ultra Lounge Series? I really enjoy his comments (and style). Has he posted here? Any insights anyone? Robert Brooks (aka Tiki Bob) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TothMD@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Your Editors Pop Culture E-mail Date: 13 Jul 1997 00:42:05 -0400 (EDT) >pop-culture-editor@amazon.com wrote: > >"Ultra Lounge: The Lexicon of Easy Listening" >by Dylan Jones >Publisher: Universe ... >Anyway, since the owl of Minerva is about to fly on >this trend, it's time for the requisite volumes telling >us what hip means this year. "Ultra Lounge: The Lexicon >of Easy Listening" by Dylan Jones provides an >encyclopedic overview of mellow sounds from the late >'50s to today's trip-hop. Jones knows his hi-fi >history, and, while appreciative of such contemporary BUYER BEWARE!!! One of the problems of online book ordering services is you can't flip through the book before you buy it. I saw this a couple months ago at a local book store when it first came out, and virtually read the whole thing in three minutes. A questionable purchase even as a $2 remaindered title, some things to know that I observed: This has NOTHING to do with Capitol's ULTRA-LOUNGE series (what's the deal? looking at my ULTRA-LOUNGE CDs, it appears Capitol did not TradeMark the name?!??). That suggests at least two possibilities: they lifted the name because they knew they could exploit an easy association and cash in on it, and/or they lifted it because they were too unimaginative to think of anything unique for their book. Either is pathetic. If this Dylan Jones person has such a knowledge of music and this genre, it's not apparent in this book. Cursory, superficial, thin, and weak! (Remember recent observations on this list that most fans of this music are much more musically literate than your average Joe? They won't be fooled by this!) One mailing of the Exotica Mailing List Digest will contain more meaty information than you'll ever find beneath this book's bland cover. Exceptions: stuff like Irwin Chusid's liner notes that were lifted for use as entries like Esquivel. How did these idiots arrange rights for THAT? The cover reproductions are generally boring covers/common LPs, and some have questionable significance to the genre. Several of the photos are of horrible condition copies of common, ubiquitous records. (Hint number one you're not dealing with a serious collector here) The copy of Whipped Cream & Other Delights with a HUGE white torn sticker or duct tape hole torn out of the picture says it all. How DO knuckleheads like this get a book published? Ruthlessly yours, Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com TothMD@aol.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: search@wavenet.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Your Editors Pop Culture E-mail Date: 12 Jul 1997 23:12:18 -0800 > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --Next_Part_2951593938_10328479_MS_Mac_IMN Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >This has NOTHING to do with Capitol's ULTRA-LOUNGE series (what's the >deal? looking at my ULTRA-LOUNGE CDs, it appears Capitol did not >TradeMark the name?!??). That suggests at least two possibilities: they ===== i *believe* brad benedict of captiol brillantly coined 'ultra lounge'. capitol/emi has it copyrighted from here to the far side of pluto. paul moshay mighty recording co. search and destroy marketing los angeles 78, calif. ===== this weeks' heavy spin: herb alpert & tijuana brass - performing a haunting version of lennon/mccartney's "i'll be back" from A&M Lp "The Brass Are Comin" (A&M SP-4228). chillingly great. --Next_Part_2951593938_10328479_MS_Mac_IMN Content-type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Re: (exotica) Your Editors Pop Culture E-mail
>This has NOTHING to do with Capitol's ULTRA-LOUNGE series (what's the
>deal? looking at my ULTRA-LOUNGE CDs, it appears Capitol did not
>TradeMark the name?!??). That suggests at least two possibilities: they

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i *believe* brad benedict of captiol brillantly coined
'ultra lounge'. capitol/emi has it copyrighted from here
to the far side of pluto.

paul moshay
mighty recording co.
search and destroy marketing
los angeles 78, calif.

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this weeks' heavy spin:
herb alpert & tijuana brass - performing a haunting version of
lennon/mccartney's "i'll be back" from A&M Lp "The Brass Are Comin"
(A&M SP-4228). chillingly great.

--Next_Part_2951593938_10328479_MS_Mac_IMN-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sonnenbergs Subject: (exotica) Gleason/ Dali Lonesome Echo? Date: 13 Jul 1997 01:47:14 +0000 I stumbled on a lovely 4 x 7" set today, am interested in selling it, but am not sure what it's worth. It's called "Jackie Gleason presents Lonesome Echos (Capitol EBF 1-627 & EBF 2-627). It consists of two small, 45 rpm double "albums" (EPs?), has wonderful covers specifically designed by Salvador Dali (!), and the inside cover of each has a photograph of Jackie and Salvador shaking hands, along with the following explication of the cover by the artist: "The first effect is that of anguish, of space, and of solitude. Secondly, the fragility of the wings of a butterfly, projecting long shadows of late afternoon, reverbates in the landscape like an echo. The feminine element, distant and isolated, forms a perfect triangle with the musical instrument and it's other echo, the shell." That text is followed by Dali's signature, and "1955" The music is described as follows: "The nostalgic, lonely quality of this album's music is derived from a novel instrumental concept. For here Jackie Gleason has assembled an exotic string combination: mandolins, 'cellos, and domras (richer, deeper mandolins), augmented by guitars and marimba. The featured solo instrument throughout is the rare oboe d'amour, whose melancholy tone is hauntingly displayed in each of these favorite selections." While I'm no expert in vinyl grading, I'd say the strictest standards would classify the vinyl as "good" (substantial crackles, but dynamics of the music uneffected), although I've purchased such as VG. The front covers are in very good condition (small pencil writing, inside), and the back covers are ringworn, slightly mottled in one case and stained in the other. Let me know what you know about these little beauties! Paul Sonnenberg Austin TX # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clean@bitstream.net Subject: (exotica) Two More Questions Date: 13 Jul 1997 02:16:57 -0600 1. Lalo Schifrin... is it pronounced "Lay-Low" or "lah-low"? ive heard both. 2. Hugo Montenegro... was his "I Dream of Jeannie" theme (or a version of it) ever on one of his own LPs? i cannot sleep until i know the answers. visit... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ King Kini's C L U B V E L V E T http://www.tamboo.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Capitol Records Date: 07 Jul 1997 09:31:50 +0100 Has any reader any experience as to how Capitol Records are with regards to coping with enquiries? I wrote to them at the beginning of the year with an (I thought) easy enquiry about their back catalog, enclosing a S.S.A.E., but heard nothing. Is it worth writing again, or is this par for the course? They must keep comprehensive files, I'd have thought, given that a lot of their back product is reappearing.... Thanks, Hugh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Lounge Laura Date: 13 Jul 1997 13:22:11 -0400 (EDT) As promised, I spoke to Laura moments ago. "I'm here, thanks for the thoughts, I'm excited by the 3-D pictures of Mars taken by a robot," were her words. She added that a transmission would be forthcoming as I offered her a seat at my keyboard--perhaps as soon as Tuesday.......Jimmy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jbtwist@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Under a Rock Date: 13 Jul 1997 13:50:05 -0400 (EDT) NASA has hush-hushed this but under a Martian rock named "Goodwill" the cute little Happy Meal toy robot Sojourner found G/VG+ copies of Herb Alpert & the TJB's "Whipped Cream and Other Delights" AND The 101 Strings' "The Soul of Spain." JB Twist # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Two More Questions Date: 13 Jul 1997 13:36:11 -0400 At 2:16 AM -0600 7/13/97, clean@bitstream.net wrote: >1. Lalo Schifrin... is it pronounced "Lay-Low" or "lah-low"? ive heard both. lah-low >2. Hugo Montenegro... was his "I Dream of Jeannie" theme (or a version of >it) ever on one of his own LPs? "Theme For Irma" on his '65 album "Candy's Theme And Other Sweets" (with the very provacative cover) is a virtual rewrite of the "I Dream of Jeannie" theme. I have never seen the actual theme on any of his LP's. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ghostown@ix.netcom.com Subject: (exotica) Searching for Bob Thompson CDs Date: 13 Jul 1997 14:37:57 -0400 * * * I am desperately trying to obtain the following import CDs. A few years ago, BMG Victor (RCA), JAPAN, reissued three Bob Thompson albums (ca. 1960) on CD. I have the one entitled MMM, NICE! but need the other two, entitled: JUST FOR KICKS and ON THE ROCKS I understand these CDs may already be out of print. I will pay decent money for either or both. (I AM NOT LOOKING FOR VINYL. I already have the LPs.) If anyone has any leads, please contact me off-list. Thanks. Irwin Chusid * * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) Bluesman and Ra-bin Date: 13 Jul 1997 16:46:50 -0400 I have the single on Tifton. The flip is Robin's Theme. I guess that this is a Non-LP B side? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Randall Rothenberg Subject: Re: (exotica) The "Ultra Lounge" Rip-Off Date: 13 Jul 1997 23:28:30 -0400 (EDT) Irwin's notes about the ripoffs in the "Ultra-Lounge" book are amazing. It moves me to recommend to any and all who write, at least part-time, for a living to join the National Writers Union, which has a well developed procedure for extracting payments for members from such malfeasants. It's listed in the NYC phone directory (and San Francisco), is affiliated with the AFL-CIO, and does a very good job on intellectual property rights. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ghostown@ix.netcom.com Subject: (exotica) "Ultra Lounge" Rip-Off/NWU Date: 14 Jul 1997 00:57:59 -0400 Randall Rothenberg wrote: > > Irwin's notes about the ripoffs in the "Ultra-Lounge" book are > amazing. It moves me to recommend to any and all who write, at least > part-time, for a living to join the National Writers Union, which has a > well developed procedure for extracting payments for members from such > malfeasants. I joined the NYC chapter of the NWU about a decade ago--and quit after a frustrating year. They seemed solely concerned with left-wing political issues, and very little with writing as a profession. One can only take so much of that envy-driven Loser Mentality typical of militant lefties and aging Sixties holdovers. Eventually, adulthood intervenes--if you're lucky. --Irwin Chusid P.S. Randall, I mean no disrespect. This is my impression of the NWU, not a personal barb. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Demographics/Lounge Attack -0In defense of Audrey Hepburn Date: 14 Jul 1997 08:32:12 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-12 08:09:17 EDT, Micheleflp@aol.com writes: >But, the confusion is that Lounge music covers 1950's through the 1970's >period and therefore cannot be tied to a single generation. For example - >look at the Audrey Hepburn movie, Breakfast at Tiffany's. Now she is >supposed to be 20-something and it takes place in the 1960's, but instead of >being a hippy, she is "digging" lounge music. So I asked my hippy friend - >"what about that?" He says that the music was going on all during that >period and appealed to any folks who were in the older age group during that >period (So does that mean that Audrey Hepburn was portraying a nerd in that >movie?). He ads that at that time, in the hippy culture, it was really >uncool to like lounge. In defense of Audrey Hepburn: In 1960 when Breakfast At Tiffany's was being filmed, rock and Sinatra and mood music still found equal time on top 40 radio. It really wasn't until the mid to late 60's that radio started to change formats and "pop" no longer included the "old guard" of Sinatra and the like.(Rememeber even Martin Denny even performed his chart topper "Quiet Village" on American Bandstand in 1959 to accepting kids). Now what Audrey played in her swingin' apartment party was jazz, which at the time (I'm sure Jack Diamond will concur) was considered pretty wild and not something for the older folks to appreciate. Remember that the "beatniks" predated the "hippies" of the later '60s and their anti-establishment musical weapon was jazz. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Lounge Attack!! Date: 14 Jul 1997 15:25:03 +0100 "Jim Gerwitz" wrote: > > That's it in a nutshell, although I love the creative definitions already > proposed by members of our world-wide exotica/lounge cult (except I > couldn't make heads or tails of what that Englishman was talking about.) > No worries, Jim: I can't make head nor tail of any of the sociological ponderings on the topic. 'Sides, Continental-style philosophy is good for its sheer Gaul. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) Re: RJ Smith Date: 14 Jul 1997 11:19:04 -0400 >Just who is R. J. Smith who writes the liner notes for the Ultra Lounge >Series? > >I really enjoy his comments (and style). Has he posted here? I'm sure some of you NYC'ers can give a better answer about what he has been up to lately. . . but with this whole demographics thread going on I just wanted to mention that I knew him 20 years ago--he dated a housemate of mine in college (my brush with stardom!) He would be about 37 now, plus or minus a year or two. Back in school he was already heavily into music, and wrote reviews for the U of M student paper the Michigan Daily. A sort of intense, intellectual guy. He was pretty open-minded about liking different things, I recall him being into everything from Talking Heads to John Hiatt to early Prince--at least these were things he endorsed as we were making up one particular party tape. However he rocketed to his greatest notoriety with one infamous Daily review, where he absolutely savaged a big Grateful Dead concert. He pretty much said that the whole hippie noodling guitar-solo thing was exhausted and dead and should just go away. He left Ann Arbor owing a friend of mine $25. . . Much later I think I heard that he had been inadvertently arrested in a crackdown on a pirate radio ship moored somewhere off New York? Then he popped up doing the UL liner notes. Don't think he's ever posted here. . . Where exactly this places him in the larger demographic continuum is left as an excercise for the reader. Yours in HiFi, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dfrisby@mgm.com (Doug Frisby) Subject: (exotica) Re: Irritainment CD Date: 14 Jul 1997 11:22:36 -0700 Because several of you asked, here's the info on the "Exotic Trilogy II" CD. First off, I highly recommend it. The sound quality is quite good and as long as you like the three songs, it's a winner. Here are the songs and the artists renditions: QUIET VILLAGE TABU CARAVAN 1. Ted Auletta 2. Douglas Gamley 3. The 3 Suns 4. Tommy Garrett 5. Billy May 6. Living Guitar 7. Bill Justis 8. Hal Shutz 9. Marty Gold 10.The Aliis 11. Ensemble Of 7 12.Enoch Light 13.Ferrante & Teicher 14.Geri Galian 15.Lloyd Burry 16.Hawaiian Brass 17.Orizaba 18.Hal Mooney 19.Al Bollington 20.Al Hirt 21.George Wright It's nice for a change to see some of the lesser known artists reissued. *The kick-ass track is the Living Guitars version of "Caravan". Anyone know what album that is from? Doug # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Keely Smith - Bio Info Date: 14 Jul 1997 22:18:01 -0400 (EDT) Hey Retrolites: I was listening to a radio station this past weekend and the DJ keep saying that it was Keely Smith's birthday. Before posting a happy birthday to this excellent diva I checked a couple of net sources. Alas, it was not her birthday but I did find this information which list members may enjoy: Keely was born March 9, 1932 in Norfolk, VA. Her real name was Dorothy Jacqueline Keely. After her parents divorced and her mother remarried Jesse Smith when she was nine years old, she changed her name to Keely Smith after she joined Louis Prima and his band. Her family had a tough time and her three brothers and her took in laundry to make ends meet. in 1947 she was on a vacation trip to New York city where the heat became oppressive. The family decided to go to Atlantic City, NJ instead. Keely went to the Steel Pier where Louis Prima was appearing. In 1948 Prima appeared at the surf club in Virginia looking for a singer. Keely auditioned and was selected and hit the road at 18 years old. They were subsequently married on july 13, 1953 and issued two daughters, Toni and Luanne. Keely was prima's fourth wife. For many years that appeared together in Las Vegas with bandleader Sam Butera and made "that old black magic" a standard. In 1961 Keely filed for divorce citing extreme mental cruelty. In 1965 she married Jimmy Bowen a record producer and they were later divorced. She currently lives in Nevada and makes appearances in the Las Vegas area. Prima died in a nursing home in New Orleans on august 24, 1978 after being in a coma for several years. Her film credits include: Sing Sing Sing, Thunder Road and Hey Boy! Hey Girl! Regards, Robert Brooks (aka Tiki Bob) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Micheleflp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Lounge Rip-Off Question Date: 15 Jul 1997 01:32:03 -0400 (EDT) ghostown@ix.netcom.com wrote: >By the time I informed the publishers (Pavilion, UK, and >Universe/Rizzoli, US) of this infringement, EMI-Capitol had joined the >fray. Seems that not only did Mr. Jones appropriate a set of R.J. Smith >liner notes (from MONDO EXOTICA--also without permission or payment), >the book title (Ultra Lounge) constitutes trademark infringement against >Capitol's CD series, and Capitol LP covers were reproduced without >permission. All in all, a shabby job of clearing rights. I saw this book about a month ago at Borders on La Cienega. What exactly do you mean by "appropriated"? Did he plagerize you or just quote you and if it was a quote of your liner notes, isn't that okay as long as they cite the author. Forgive me for not being up on all of this, but I cite authors all the time when I'm doing research papers and I always thought we could quote or paraphrase as long as we gave the source. I have never contacted any of my sources and asked permission to cite them in my papers and no one has told me that I needed to. Can someone who's got the time and info please explain this to me? Also Paul wrote that Capitol has the rights to the name "Ultra Lounge," which means that no one can use it - as in what exactly? Like coming out with a CD titled Ultra Lounge? So does that mean we cant use those words anymore, what exactly does it mean we can or cant do? - Michele Flipside # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: search@wavenet.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Lounge Rip-Off Question Date: 14 Jul 1997 23:36:01 -0800 > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --Next_Part_2951768161_1891348_MS_Mac_IMN Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >this to me? Also Paul wrote that Capitol has the rights to the name "Ultra >Lounge," which means that no one can use it - as in what exactly? Like >coming out with a CD titled Ultra Lounge? So does that mean we cant use >those words anymore, what exactly does it mean we can or cant do?  coming out with any entertainment (and possibly other) product would most likely be an infringement of trademark (speaking NOT as a representitive of Capitol/EMI here)...just from vantage point of 10 yrs a rec biz marketing exec. i dont know about the use of trademarked concept in venues that do not constitute a direct commercial infringement on a franchise. consult your publishers/counsel :) ! paul / mighty recording co. --Next_Part_2951768161_1891348_MS_Mac_IMN Content-type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Re: (exotica) Lounge Rip-Off Question
>this to me? Also Paul wrote that Capitol has the rights to the name "Ultra
>Lounge," which means that no one can use it - as in what exactly? Like
>coming out with a CD titled Ultra Lounge? So does that mean we cant use
>those words anymore, what exactly does it mean we can or cant do?

coming out with any entertainment (and possibly other) product would
most likely be an infringement of trademark (speaking NOT as a representitive
of Capitol/EMI here)...just from vantage point of 10 yrs a rec biz marketing
exec.

i dont know about the use of trademarked concept in venues that do not
constitute a direct commercial infringement on a franchise. consult your
publishers/counsel :) !

paul / mighty recording co. --Next_Part_2951768161_1891348_MS_Mac_IMN-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Keely Smith - Bio Info Date: 15 Jul 1997 10:13:01 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 7/14/97 9:10:17 PM, you wrote: <> Jimmy Bowen also had a One Hit Wonder called, "I'm Stickin' With You", by Jimmy Bowen with the Rhythm Orchids, co-written with Buddy Knox. The other side of this hit single was "Party Doll", with the lead sung by Buddy Knox, as Buddy was part of the Rhythm Orchids. Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) Christmas in July Date: 15 Jul 1997 11:40:02 -0400 > I think it's high time for an annoying blanket statement. I don't like > vocals mixin with my Mood Music! Plain and simple. Until very recently I would have completely agreed: if it has lyrics, forget it. Of course there would have to be be an exception for the occasional Esquivel-esque "Zoo zoo zoo" or lyric fragement. (By the way I just picked up _The Versatile Henry Mancini_ on Liberty and love his ethereal take on Exotica--his "Poinciana" has one of these fragementary vocals, the ladies breathing "speak to me of love. . ." and then vanishing.) . . . But as so often happens, the more things I listen to the more my rules and arbitrary categories seem to break down. I just got that infamous Stereo Action LP by the Keith Trextor singers, and it is so wigged that you can hardly object to the lyrics. And a copycat album on MGM ("the Dancing Voices") has a Cha Cha version of "Don't Get Around Much Any More" which I'm getting to be rather fond of. But speaking of breaking my own rules, I must give lavish public credit here to Vern Stoltz for getting me to break my longstanding rule of "No Christmas Albums." After reading _Cannot Be Obsolete_ #3 (the Xmas Issue), which is a hoot, I got a few Xmas LPs last weekend. I feel like I'm off on a whole new terrifying adventure: Lenny Dee _Holi-Dee_ (Decca). This may be the hammiest Dee album I have ever heard. Jumped-up "Jingle Bells," rockabilly "Rudolph," scorching "Sleigh Ride," and a triple-speed "Auld Lang Syne." Wow. There's even some "stereo action" going on! (Plus the Anita Kerr singers singing "Santa. Santa. Santa." in a way that seems to me to foreshadow the Residents' "Santa Dog". . . ) _Yuletide Disco_ as performed by Mirror Image (Pickwick). I'm just getting started in the "inappropriate dicso" area, but I have to say I can't imagine it getting much stranger than this. The "Hark the Herald Angels" disco version sounds like a parody straight from _The Simpsons_. Unfortunately this disc got sharply *folded* at some point (latent hositility?) and the big kink means I can't really play "the Twelve Days of Christmas"--it seems to be another howler. Does anyone else have Christmas favorites with something a little. . . different. . . about them? Ho ho ho, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J. Diamond" Subject: (exotica) Playlist for Jack Date: 14 Jul 1997 21:11:57 -0700 KFJC-FM play list 7/6/97 for Jack Diamond ARTIST TRACK ALBUM ______________________________________________________________________________ Planets Chunky Herb Geller-Alto Jack Sheldon-Trumpet Buddy Collette-Clarinet Jack Montrose-Tenor Sax Johnny Graas Nonet Let's Fall in Love Decca, 1957 Nelson Riddle Orch One for the Rogue The Rogues, 1964 Peter Thomas Space Patrol Pete Rugolo Orch W/ Jack Costanzo Bongo Riff 1958, Mercury Ken Nordine When You Are Born, Piccolos, Knee Hugo Montenegro Yale's Pool Room Lady in Cement Johnny Pate Shaft in Africa 1973 Robert Prince Orch. Blues, Mambo, Jazz Ballet, Maria Cha Cha, Jump1958 U.S.A. Tab Hunter and Film, 1958, Rca Gwen Verdon 2 Lost Souls Damn Yankees Mancini Orson Around Touch of Evil W/ Barney Kessel-Guitar Plas Johnson-Tenor Sax Mike Pacheco- Conga Dave Pell-Bari Sax Jack Costanzo-Bongos Conte Candoli-Tpt On Her Bed of Roses Main Title/Walk to Hell On Her Bed of Roses Kenyon Hopkinse The Loft Nightmare Herbie Hancock Bring Down e Birds Blow Up Dave Dudley 6 Days on e Road Jimmy Colvard Electric Coconut Popcorn G. Kingsley Johnny Mandel Orch. Feat. Art Pepper Georgia on My Mind 1958, World Pacific Lalo Schifrin Feat. Bill Plummer-Sitar The Sniper Les Baxter Orch. Barbarian Plas Johnson-Tenor Chaino & Mate Jungle Chase Omega-Disc Jack Burger Bongo Insuction Hi Fi Boz Scaggs Runnin' Blue Raymond Scott Orch. Twilight in Turkey This Time W/ Strings Lord Sitar Blue Jay Way George Harrison Mancini Experiment in Terror Spooky Version Fifty Foot Hose Rose Cauldron Marshall McLuhan The Medium Is The Massage Machito Orch. Congo Mulence A.K. Salim Daphne Hellman Qrt. W/ Mundell Lowe-Gtr March of the Siamese Children & Summertime Lambert, Hendricks & Ross Mr. P. C. Coltrane Billy May Orch. Rusty in Orchestraville Kenyon Hopkins Orch. The Winner The Hustler Johnny Mandel Orch. The Last Mile Jr. and His Soulettes Thang, Do The Creep Psychodelic Sounds O'Donel Levy Playhouse Manny Albam-Arrgr Hugo Montenegro Jungle Heat More Man From Uncle Alan Tew Orch. Doctor in The House Lalo Schifrin Turning Point CTI, 1976, Funk Robert Prince Orch. Cool West Side Story Mel Henke Last Night on The Back Porch Warren Barker Orch. Caper at The Coffeehouse 77 Sunset Sip Tom Glazer Vitajex Jingle Face in The Crowd Thumbs Carlisle Gettin' Your Ship Back Together Agnes Moorhead Sorry, Wrong Number Pete Rugolo Orch. Diamond On The Move Richard Diamond 4 Titles available on CD-Guess which one's:-) he he he he he he he he he KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 KFJC is now live on the web. Direct your browsers toward http://www.kfjc.org and see what all the fuss is about! Totally insane and awesome Music Database with Keywood Search DJ Playlists w/ Hot Links to Reviews and all sorts of other cool stuff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ray Coffey" Subject: (exotica) Lalo Laura Date: 15 Jul 1997 13:12:55 -0400 A fellow Argentinian says that Lalo Schifrin's first name is pronounced Lah-lo, not Lay-lo. This doll composes orchestral jazz music too! Even stranger, her name is Laura (L-Ow!-rrrrrr-uh *not* Lore-uh) -same as that Taylor woman, aka Lounge Laura, who despite becoming a Hausfrau, still has a serious vinyl addiction, and is jonesing for more. Alas, her recent "slacker" job at Tower Records does not allow five-fingered discounting. Nor does it leave much money after rent is paid. Her usual field for employment has a glut of workers v. jobs, as the public radio market in Boston is saturated with talent, especially with the demise of Monitor Radio at the Christian Scientists' Mother Church. Job offers will continue to be accepted and reviewed by Miss Taylor in the order in which they are received. Her house is apparently becoming a showplace, with much of her free time devoted to grooming it! Anybody know of anything wonderful in West Palm Beach, Florida? I'm looking for architecural examples (any Deco there?), thrifts, record stores, bars, lounges, and restaurants. Even Gawd-offal Extreme American Culture sites are desirable. Pecan Logs, here I come! Ray (Koffee Kup) Coffey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) some cd's i liked Date: 15 Jul 1997 16:20:30 +0200 some cd's i liked: ----------------- * v/a: Another cray cocktail party: shake your congas it's funny but also sad that i had to learn about this belgian release from an american dj (thanx, Darrell!). i'm not on any promo list you see, and cd distribution in belgium, well ... anyway, this is a collection of both silly and cool "cocktail" music from the late 60's, the accent lies on novelty arrangements. cover says "file under grounge" but it sounds too clean to claim such a label, much cleaner than what you hear on "the sound gallery" for exemple. oh yes, part 1 (crazy cocktail party) is deleted already ;-( * Roy Budd: Rebirth of the Budd a couple of the best tracks were already featured on the "the sound spectrum" and "the easy project vol 2" comps. half of it is good and tasteful piano cocktail jazz, the rest fits in the "sound gallery and easy project" style. * Les Reed: Girl on a motorcycle more of the same euro/loungecore: provocative arrangements, nice melodies, weird sounds, lush strings, brass action, loungecore in the easy project style. brilliant. * Airto: The best of contains 2 tracks from "free", 3 from "fingers", 2 from "virhin land" and 2 from "deodato/airto in concert". an absolutely fantastic mix of latin, funk and exotic elements, highly recommended! * Xavier Cugat and his Orchestra: Cugie A-Go-Go zip-a-dee-doo-dah! chim, chim, cher-ee! goldfinger! thunderball! see the article on "go-go" sound in the last "cool & strange music" * v/a: Ultra-Lounge On the rocks 1: rock'n'roll distilled for ez l. i absolutely LOVED this! (vol 2 a bit less) you shouldn't compare them to rhino's "golden throats" as this is not as much atrocious music, it's just easyfied (instrumentalised) pop classics; a few are silly, but a lot have that "now sound". very interesting. a friend dj who's very much into dub/techno/drum & base/acid jazz and who also likes some of the stuff i play for him (like the sound gallery and the crippled dick soundtracks) found it very groovy! * The Gentle People: Soundtracks For Living far too expensive (clearly aimed at the japanese market). cosmic lounge, new age exotica. they've listened a lot to klaus schulze. * Emil Richards: Wonderful World of Percussion think of "stones" and "psychedelic percussion" without the guitars and electronics. wonderful! * Astrud Gilberto: Beach samba from the liners: "astrud would make clear that pop music, not jazz, was her forte, covering songs made famous by vicki carr and the lovin' spoonful, sneaking up some hollywood and broadway show tunes and introducing ballads and ovelties from he native land". * Edmundo Ros and His Orchestra: Vaba-Va-Voom i don't like ross as much as cugat or prado, because he sounds too european, and he sings ;-). some funny bits here: tico tico/ toreador's song/ summertime/ hare krishna/ aquarius/ let the sunshine in/ up up and away/ * Shig & Buzz: Double diamonds good melodies in a shadows/ventures way * Tipsy: Trip Tease yeh, i know, i once said i didn't like their first maxi, but i guess that was too dance-oriented for me, i'm not a dance-oriented kinda guy ;-) there's a lot more happening on this cd, sometimes so much it becomes hilarious. great fun! * Cal Tjader: Several Shades of Jade / Breeze from The East beautiful blend of soul/pop/jazz and subtle oriental influences. * v/a: Further Inflight Entertainment not as amazing and surprising as vol 1, but still highly recommended, if you don't mind the disgustingly high price... (what the heck is happening in europe? german and english cd's cost almost as much as japanese!!!) * Ennio Morricone: More Mondo Morricone if you liked the first one, you'll also like this one (if you don't mind the...) * The Soul of Jazz, vol. 1 great dancefloor jazz with hugh masekela; jimmy smith (2 tracks, 1 of them from "the cat" see below); cal tjader; quincy jones; james taylor quartet; and others. there are more volumes, though don't know how many. i prefer this over the "mojo" dancefloor jazz" cd i listened to as that one has lots of vocal tracks, and i prefer instro jazz. ??? does anyone know if this JAMES TAYLOR QUARTET has a cd out with the same kind of exciting groovy funk-jazz as here with the track "theme from starsky & hutch"? * Jimmy Smith (arranged & conducted by Lalo Schifrin): The Cat woow, this is dynamite! soulful big band + hammond jazz * Lambert, Hendricks & Ross: The Hottest New Group In Jazz mindboggling and amazing virtuoso acrobatic vocal jazz. * Snoopy's Beatles Classiks On Toys if you like Pianosaurus, you'll love this one! also available: Christmas/Classical/Nutcracker/Jazz on toys, but haven't heard those yet. * v/a, cond. by Dick Jacobs: Themes from Classic Science Fiction, Fantasy and Horror Films one of the few horror (comp) soundtrack cd's that i found entertaining. amusing even at times. -------------------------- stuff i wasn't impressd by: -------------------------- * The Horror Films Collection - Classic Italian Soundtracks boring! clichee! i liked 4 tracks out of the 23... the kind of music that works great when you watch the movie... i must add and admit that i haven't listened to it yet after midnight ;-) * Morricone: Una lucertola con la pelle di donna boring, dark, noisy, without melody, except for the heavenly title track, which is featured on Mondo Morricone. 3 other track are not bad either, but all in all not worth the $30 price tag, IMH and melody-lovin' O. * Najma: Forbidden Kiss maybe i'm suffering from an overdose of indian film music after going through 20 or so tapes my parents brought back from a trip to India. they couldn't find ANY Vijaya Anand alas. it all sounds the same after a while... for label and origin info, see eXotica Releases Overview: http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/disq/disq.htm or http://195.13.24.3/Dada/disq/disq.htm Johan Dada@dma.be = Dada@bewoner.dma.be --- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) New eXotica Releases Overview Update Date: 14 Jul 1997 20:25:07 +0200 A new update to the eXotica Releases Overview is now available, containing 816 entries. The main "raison d'etre" of this XRO still is: to give anyone an idea of what is currently available in the "exotica" genre, and to give you exact titles and release details to make your life easier :-) eXotica Releases Overview: http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/disq/disq.htm or http://195.13.24.3/Dada/disq/disq.htm Dada'quariums Exotica: http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/index.htm or http://195.13.24.3/Dada/index.htm Johan |)/\|)/\ Vis Dada@dma.be = Dada@bewoner.dma.be # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: RJ Smith Date: 15 Jul 1997 02:38:36 -0400 (EDT) >He left Ann Arbor owing a friend of mine $25 Well, last I looked (which was about two months ago) RJ Smith was residing somewhere in LA (and a former scribe at the LA Weekly) If you really need that $25 it shouldn't be too hard to find him Got anymore dirt? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Dylan Jones, etc. Date: 15 Jul 1997 15:08:18 -0400 (EDT) I thought I'd read here that the new Ultra Lounge book by Dylan Jones had been deleted and taken off the shelves. I found some at Tower Records this morning. What's the story? I screwed up my courage and bought the two Ultra Lounge CDs that I'd been avoiding. "On The Rocks" Vol. I and II. I've only listened to half of Vol I, but quite amazingly, I like it. I took my portable CD player with me on my morning walk, and thoroughly enjoyed what I heard. Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bpm0@interport.net (Peter Becker) Subject: (exotica) Tipsy in the Bay Area Date: 15 Jul 1997 16:14:23 -0500 I have no details yet, so please wait! This hot off the Asphodel press... FYI, Tipsy will be at Lounge-a-pallooza '97 this year at the Transmission Theatre and Paradise Lounge on August 23. They will be on the Transmission stage, time, and door prices TBA. bpm0@interport.net Peter Becker, Promotions: Retail, DJ Pool Asphodel Records, NYC PO Box 51, Chelsea Station, NY NY 10113 Phone # (212) 965-0265 FAX # (212) 965-0959 http://www.asphodel.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: (exotica) some cd's i liked Date: 15 Jul 1997 17:34:18 -0500 Johan Dada Vis wrote: > -------------------------- > stuff i wasn't impressd by: > -------------------------- > * Morricone: Una lucertola con la pelle di donna > > boring, dark, noisy, without melody, except for the heavenly title > track, which is featured on Mondo Morricone. 3 other track are not > bad either, but all in all not worth the $30 price tag, IMH and > melody-lovin' O. ahhhh!! : ) to each their own I guess... total disagreement other than it being dark, noisy and heavenly - it can be got for $21 btw - at Footlights, I think Just scored Jimmy Smith's The Cat at a thrift and dig it much! - tho' I'm still partial to Peter & the Wolf and Monster (don't care for big band when it gets too brassy - unless Walter Kime is there to add space-age vocals). Also.. at a not so thrift (for 18 bucks) scored a mint mono of Quincy Jones' In Cold Blood which is everything Jack sez it is. Seeing the film (just watched it last night) doesn't fully prepare you for this record... It's almost too good a soundtrack and is integrated beautifully with the film. But on record... WOW! Intense scary stuff - dark, noisy.. uh oh, there i go again... kevin king xanadu@radix.net http://www.radix.net/~xanadu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J. Diamond" Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist for Jack Date: 15 Jul 1997 15:00:33 -0700 >*> Kenyon Hopkins The Loft Nightmare >*bootleg Wrong. Vinyl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (exotica) Re: Dylan Jones, etc. Date: 15 Jul 1997 17:18:37 -0600 (MDT) > I thought I'd read here that the new Ultra Lounge book by Dylan Jones had > been deleted and taken off the shelves. I found some at Tower Records this > morning. What's the story? "Out of print" does not imply "recalled". Presumably the publisher will no longer be filling orders for the title and that's the end of it. Your money would be much better spent on "Hi-Fis and Hi-Balls" anyway (mentioned here a while back). -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Randall Rothenberg Subject: (exotica) Re: "Ultra Lounge" Rip-Off/NWU Date: 15 Jul 1997 23:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Irwin, I had the same experience with the National Writers Union -- and I was a founding member. Dropped out after I came to the conclusion that they were more concerned about the rights of poets ("Free verse!" "No free verse!") than with those of working writers. Since that time, though, and pronouncements and perceptions to the contrary, the organization has cleaned up its act and become a hard-working, responsible group fighting, successfully, on economic and financial issues. It's put together a terrific on-line registry, to capture monies lost to unapproved electronic distribution. It's got a good health plan. And its grievance procedure is quite excellent. Worth a second look. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: RJ Smith Date: 16 Jul 1997 00:06:01 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-15 13:54:43 EDT, you write: << >He left Ann Arbor owing a friend of mine $25 Well, last I looked (which was about two months ago) RJ Smith was residing somewhere in LA (and a former scribe at the LA Weekly) If you really need that $25 it shouldn't be too hard to find him >> I think the point was that true friends do not leaving other friends holding the bag for money they owe them. It is, in my opinion, one of the ultimate indications of character when a "friend" does not make good on moniesowed to other "friends". I may be wrong, but I think this was what the original author of the post was trying to point out. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: RJ Smith Date: 16 Jul 1997 00:07:25 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-15 13:54:43 EDT, you write: << >He left Ann Arbor owing a friend of mine $25 Well, last I looked (which was about two months ago) RJ Smith was residing somewhere in LA (and a former scribe at the LA Weekly) If you really need that $25 it shouldn't be too hard to find him >> I think the point was that true friends do not leaving other friends holding the bag for money they owe them. It is, in my opinion, one of the ultimate indications of character when a "friend" does not make good on moniesowed to other "friends". I may be wrong, but I think this was what the original author of the post was trying to point out. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ghostown@ix.netcom.com Subject: (exotica) Ernie Kovacs Music CD Date: 16 Jul 1997 01:58:47 -0400 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * After two years in production, finally released 15 JUL 97: THE ERNIE KOVACS RECORD COLLECTION (CD) Original Themes and Sketch Music from the Ernie Kovacs TV shows Produced by Irwin Chusid, Edie Adams and Cary E. Mansfield Varese-Sarabande Records (VSD 5789) package design by Chris Ware mastering by Bill Inglot research, programming, sequence, and liner notes by Irwin Chusid TRACK SEQUENCE 1. Please Stand By... (EK soundbite) 2. Tony DeSimone Trio - Oriental Blues (Ernie's Tune) 3. Wolfgang Neuss - Mack the Knife 4. Robert Maxwell - Song of the Nairobi Trio (Solfeggio) 5. Arthur Fiedler/Boston Pops - Polka fr. Golden Age by Shostakovich 6. Ferrante & Teicher - Oye Negra 7. Ernie Kovacs & Tony DeSimone Trio - Hotcakes & Sausage 8. Clancy's Clowns - Saxophobia 9. Esquivel - Jalousie/Sentimental Journey (medley) 10. Edie Adams & Ernie Kovacs - The Wrong Man 11. Henry Burr - There's a Little Spark of Love Still Burning 12. Leona Anderson - Fish 13. Les Baxter & Orchestra - Celestial Nocturne 14. Ferrante & Teicher - African Echoes 15. Edie Adams & Ernie Kovacs - Indian Love Call 16. Yma Sumac - Tumba 17. Leona Anderson - Rats in My Room 18. Ferrante & Teicher - Mississippi Boogie 19. Chicago Symphony Orch - Lt. Kije, Part III (Kije's Wedding) 20. LeRoy Holmes & His Tug Boat Eight - Oriental Blues (Ernie's Tune) DEDICATED TO ERNIE and Musical Gorillas everywhere * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ccarlson@valsmtp.riag.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Bluesman and Ra-bin Date: 16 Jul 1997 07:55:58 -0400 Brian Phillips wrote: have the single on Tifton. The flip is Robin's Theme. I guess that this is a Non-LP B side? No, "Robin's Theme" is the first track on side two of the Tifton LP (and my fave cut on the album). Great soul-female-vocalist repeating "Robin here, Robin there" until it becomes a wordless mantra-type of thing. Ridiculous, sloppy, streams of guitar from Danny Kalb. I love it. Craig # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ccarlson@valsmtp.riag.com Subject: (exotica) Legend Alert Date: 16 Jul 1997 08:00:05 -0400 From the July 21 issue of The New Yorker: Jazz Master Class with Dick Hyman and Derrick Smith at the 92nd St. Y, Lexington at 92nd St. July 21 at 8:15. (996-1100). If any NYC area listers attend, post a review please? Craig # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Ernie Kovacs Music CD Date: 16 Jul 1997 06:48:32 -0700 (PDT) At 01:58 AM 7/16/97 -0400, Irwin Chusid wrote: >After two years in production, finally released 15 JUL 97: >THE ERNIE KOVACS RECORD COLLECTION (CD) >Original Themes and Sketch Music from the Ernie Kovacs TV shows >Produced by Irwin Chusid, Edie Adams and Cary E. Mansfield >Varese-Sarabande Records (VSD 5789) And what a collection! I am headed to the store TODAY! About the only thing that's not on it is Bela Bartok's Concerto for Orchestra...but its a little long and doesn't really fit the character of the CD. After all there are plenty of recordings of that around! Now, what about recommendations for accompanying videos? Public TV in the late 70's did a series of Ernie Kovacs specials...are those the ones I've seen advertised in sunday supplement adverts? One of the movie channels (Showtime?) had an hour or 90 minute special on Ernie Kovacs. I believe this was available commercially. I have a tape of Kovacs on the Corner. Are there other tapes available? Or, even better, laser discs? To bad someone doesn't put out a video especially as a companion to the CD. By the way, why a medley of the Esquivel selections? I know both are available elsewhere on CD. I guess the idea was to acknowledge their appearance, but to send you to the other releases. Also, I imagine, it was difficult to convince RCA to let them go on another recording...so this was one way to do it. Capitol did these medley things quite a bit...and it was one of the most annoying parts of the Ultra Lounge series. I suppose some people like this, but for me its like taking something away: the ability to mix and separate music as I like. However, I am NOT complaining about the Kovacs collection, merely wondering about the story behind the medley. Kudos for the Kovacs Kollection! Byron Caloz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: Re: (exotica) JTQ Date: 16 Jul 1997 13:45:12 +0000 Johan wrote: > ??? does anyone know if this JAMES TAYLOR QUARTET has a cd > out with the same kind of exciting groovy funk-jazz as here > with the track "theme from starsky & hutch"? JTQ have released several CDs - they must been around for 10-15 years now and everything they do is in this "car chase funk" style. If you like their Starsky and Hutch theme you'll probably want all of their CDs - except perhaps the more recent stuff which is starting to get very commercial and poppy. If you have trouble getting their stuff in Belgium give me a shout and I'll raid the local record store racks... Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~rcb/light/ ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dfrisby@mgm.com (Doug Frisby) Subject: (exotica) Re: JTQ Date: 16 Jul 1997 09:52:20 -0700 Robbie wrote: > JTQ have released several CDs - they must been around for 10-15 > years now and everything they do is in this "car chase funk" style. > If you like their Starsky and Hutch theme you'll probably want all >of their CDs - except perhaps the more recent stuff which is starting > to get very commercial and poppy. I too must chime in here. James Taylor Quartet is an instrumental, soundtrack sounding, spy sound loving group you should not overlook. Look for the early CD's (or LP's) some of which have been reissued through Acid Jazz. They are Mission Impossible (includes songs like "Blow-Up" and "Mrs. Robinson"), The Money Spyder (a soundtrack to a Spy movie that does not exist), Wait A Minute (their BEST! including "Starsky & Hutch" theme) as well as Get Organized! (their closest album to the Jimmy Smith,Groove Holmes style jazz) After that, they start going in the direction of that hip-hop, acid-jazz vibe and while they still have a few cuts that are only instrumental, the rest are songs with special guest Acid Jazz vocalists. Echh.. Anyway, the latest tune from JTQ on the "Austin Powers" soundtrack is truer to their earlier work. If you liked that, buy any of the above. You won't regret it. BTW, the same thing goes for the group "Corduroy". They too are an instrumental group in the "Lounge" style and you should pick up their first two CD's (not the later ones), if you like the early JTQ sound. Includes great tributes to Sergio Mendes and "Breakfast At Tiffany's". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) cars Date: 16 Jul 1997 13:17:05 -0400 (EDT) Oh no--now I am a "Car Chase Funk" completist # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ernie & Edie Date: 16 Jul 1997 14:05:14 -0400 > From: bag@hubris.net > Subject: Re: (exotica) Ernie Kovacs Music CD > > Now, what about recommendations for accompanying videos? Public TV in the > late 70's did a series of Ernie Kovacs specials...are those the ones I've > seen advertised in sunday supplement adverts? One of the movie channels Issue #8 of Outre' Magazine has a terrific interview with Edie Adams. Wow -- she is one totally cool person. As far as video goes, she has archived everything she could get hold of. 10 volumes are available through White Star Video (I don't know the address). This series is authorized and supervised by Edie. She also talks about a connection with Comedy Central, but as far as I know, those stiffs haven't run anything in several years. I was a rapt viewer of that PBS series -- I think it ran in '77 as half hour episodes airing through spring and summer. Pre-VCR days, unfortunately. I recall that had the really classic material, maybe including "Eugene". The Comedy Central run had more of their off-the-cuff stuff, including Edie's hysterical Marilyn Monroe number. I think I saw the hour or hour and a half special you mentioned, but as usual with that sort of thing, the wholesale chopping of material just frustrated me. I guess White Star Video is the best bet. She also mentions that a web site is under development. I don't if that's up yet, but I have stumbled onto this unofficial one: http://www.users.interport.net/~manaben/kovacs.html She also ALSO mentions an album she did in 1959 with Ernie & Mancini called "Music To Listen To Records By". She describes it as, "It is SO stupid!" and I think she means that in a positive way. Sounds good to me. The letters column in issue #9 of Outre' includes an account (from Greg Douglass) of her recent (April) appearance at the Viper Room in LA, for the release party of a Jack Kerouac poetry readin' tribute album. She performed "Dr. Sax" ("complete with dead-on physical impersonations of Lugosi and Karloff") and "Silly Goofball Pome", accompanied by Ray Pizzi on bassoon. Unfortunately, she doesn't actually appear on the CD, but Eddie Vedder and Michael Stipe do. Go figger. The address for Outre' is P.O. Box 1900 / Evanston, IL 60204. They're also on the web at: http://www.filmfax.com/ but they've been stuck in the "we're still moving in" stage for months. No, I'm NOT connected with Outre' or Filmfax -- only as a subscriber. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Misc. Date: 16 Jul 1997 14:24:52 -0400 Where's Jessica and her weekend finds? Maybe it will turn out to be a special "summer vacation finds" edition? Perhaps our psycho/socio/demographic contingent can diagnose this one for me: For the past week or so I've had a scary amount of early '80s new wave tunes popping up on my mental hi-fi. This morning it was Nena's "99 Luftballoons"! (I had a heck of a time identifying that one, especially since I was hearing an instrumental version.) Is my subconscious mind trying to tell me that it's useless to brush that stuff under the rug? Not again! Now it's the Eurythmics' "Sweet Dreams". m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ernie & Edie Date: 16 Jul 1997 15:47:57 -0400 > Subject: Re: (exotica) Ernie & Edie > > She also mentions that a web site is under development. I don't if that's up > yet, but I have stumbled onto this unofficial one: > http://www.users.interport.net/~manaben/kovacs.html I just stopped by the above site and it has further info and links regarding Kovacs video. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jessica Cameron Subject: (exotica) Edie Adams Sings? Date: 16 Jul 1997 15:53:47 -0400 Someone mentioned Edie Adams "Music to Listen to Records By," which I tried to look up in my comedy record guide, but all I found was this "Edie Adams Sings?" Henry Mancini did the music for this album too, and it's on the MGM label. Is one of these a reissue of the other or are they two different records? Anyway, the book sez the album is "Adams re-interpreting some classic pop tunes with a droll, hip edge. Some of the tunes are "Whiffenpoof Song," "Indian Love Call," "All of a Sudden My Heart Sings," "School Days," and "Singing In the Rain." The book also says that Ernie does backing vocals (er, backing yells) on "Indian Love Call." Edie's "Behind Those Swinging Doors" (which I mentioned before) has some funny moments, too. Esp. "Rings on My Fingers" and "Frankie and Johnny." (unrelated) BTW, does anyone know anything about Diana Dors's album? I think it's called "Swinging Dors." Or maybe that's the name of her autobiography. Thanks for any help. And thanks for the space! Jessica ^_^ PS--I haven't posted any finds lately because I haven't found anything worth posting about! Just minor stuff. Sorry! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jessica Cameron Subject: Re: (exotica) Christmas in July Date: 16 Jul 1997 16:02:09 -0400 >(By the way I just picked up _The Versatile Henry Mancini_ on Liberty and >love his ethereal take on Exotica Ooh, I love this album....is it just me, or did Liberty reissue it about a 100 times? I've seen so many different versions of it. > Lenny Dee _Holi-Dee_ (Decca). This is my _favorite_ Christmas album, and one of the few Christmas albums that stays out all year (the so-so ones get shoved under the bed). > > _Yuletide Disco_ as performed by Mirror Image (Pickwick) Love that discoteque "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree"...... ^_- > >Does anyone else have Christmas favorites with something a little. . . >different. . . about them? Earl Grant's "Winter Wonderland" is sort of a mellowed out "Happy Holi-dee." I like it a lot. I also like Bert Kaempfert's Christmas album (it may be _too_ mellow for some of you). "Christmas Becomes Electric" is nutty and has lots of different tunes on it (both secular and santa). I like Ken Griffin's Christmas album because it's sort of Lenny Dee-esque and has one cool original, "Kringle's Jingle." I'm sure I'd love the 3 Suns' Christmas album if I had it. :( I know there's a Hawaiian Christmas album by the Waikikis, but I haven't bought the copy I saw at the flea market yet (I'm holding out until I'm in a more Christmas-y mood). Thanks for the space, Jessica PS--The Spike Jones Christmas album is very unmemorable! I learned the hard way. :( # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jbtwist@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Misc. Date: 16 Jul 1997 16:52:02 -0400 (EDT) '80's Alert: The 7/10/97 San Francisco Examiner had an article titled "Clubs Go Back To The '80s", listing 7 Bay Area clubs with '80's nights and two impending releases from St. Martin's Press, "Pretty In Pink" and "Totally Awesome 80's: A Lexicon"..etc. Scoop up those Kajagoogoo LP's NOW !!!!!! At this rate of retro-ism, Can the Soundgarden Reunion Tour be far behind ? Remember , '80's is also spelled MTV. Thanks to all involved in the Ernie K. and Edie A. release. Her "why don't you pick one up and SMOKE it sometime" Dutch Masters commercial was the sexiest ad of the '50's. The '60's winner would of course be the shaving commercial "take it off, take it all off." JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: (exotica) NEW Sabu double LP -- Sabu in Space!!! Date: 16 Jul 1997 17:08:16 -0400 Newly available from wonderful online source Dusty Groove, http://www.dustygroove.com/orderfrm.htm jp@dustygroove.com phone: 773-667-1200 Dusty Groove America, 1507 E. 53rd St., Suite 473, Chicago, IL 60615 the latest double-LP reissue by Sabu Martinez, the master of modern Latin jazz (Jazz Espagnole), the king of exotica (Sorcery, Safari, etc.), the funkiest hippie --at least in Sweden-- (Afro Temple), and revered Blue Note percussionist (various LPs): "Sabu in Orbit," featuring the following two LPs recorded Nov. 15, 1960: In Orbit Astronautas de la Pachanga There's organ, there are vibes, and there are liner notes (by a Sabu expert I must phone today). From just after the recording of "Sabu's Jazz Espagnole," the masterpiece which still causes a stir in jazz circles and is well worth the $45 that CD Banzai charges to import it (on CD) from Japan. But first, get the Orgy in Rhythm CD and Afro Temple a.s.a.p.; check 'em all out at the Sabu Martinez Home Page. Partial "Sabu in Orbit" details go up soon, but get that Dusty Groove order in now. Tony The Wilds Scene: LPs * Sabu Home Page * Tiki Gallery http://www.charm.net/~wilds/ Email lists: new LP arrivals, web pages/sites, comps To receive, email: wilds@charm.net "I'm just a wild man. You know I'm not a follow-style man." -- Mose Allison # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Rhodewalt Subject: Re: (exotica) Misc. Date: 16 Jul 1997 14:25:09 -0700 Jbtwist@aol.com wrote: > Thanks to all involved in the Ernie K. and Edie A. release. Her "why > don't > you pick one up and SMOKE it sometime" Dutch Masters commercial was > the > sexiest ad of the '50's. The '60's winner would of course be the > shaving > commercial "take it off, take it all off." I will never miss an opportunity to plug TJB's "Whipped Cream..." and this is one. Yes, that was the '60s winner, and was somehow related to the above LP, although I'll be danged if I can explain how. (My dad used to crack up whenever the "take it off" commercial came on, usually during a football game or "Wide World of Sports." Do you think it was nervous laughter?) I promise: There will be a "Whipped Cream..." web site on the tikipub.com server some day. Please send any info you have that isn't apparent from the jacket, sleeve and vinyl itself. Thanks. -- Bruce Rhodewalt aka kahuna@tikipub.com Tiki Publishing: Creative Internet solutions since 1995 78-365 Highway 111, #241 ...lists? We got 'em: La Quinta, CA 92253 http://www.tikipub.com/tikilists.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Edie Adams Sings? Date: 16 Jul 1997 17:39:07 -0400 (EDT) At 03:53 PM 7/16/97 -0400, Jessica wrote: > >Someone mentioned Edie Adams "Music to Listen to Records By," which I tried >to look up in my comedy record guide, but all I found was this "Edie Adams >Sings?" Henry Mancini did the music for this album too, and it's on the MGM >label. Is one of these a reissue of the other or are they two different >records? One record with two titles on the cover: Music To Listen To Records By floats across the top of the picture, while Edie Adams Sings? is written to the right of an industrial strength photo of the fetching Ms. Adams. This would be a fun Lp to reissue - not essential, but fun. -Ultra Lou (if Capitol wants my butt for infringement, they can get in line) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Gerwitz" Subject: (exotica) Connie Francis Date: 16 Jul 1997 14:45:23 -0700 http://www.batnet.com/mfwright/connie_francis.html Connie was overlooked in the recent "female belters" thread, but the above fan club web page has tons of info. I gained a new appreciation for her when I picked up a used cassette of her "Rock Sides" a few years back. Her "Songs for a Swingin' Band" came at Christmas with my first record player, along with Chubby's "Twist" LP. Too bad the recent 4 CD set omits "He's A Scientist," perfect background music for the sight of hugging and jumping NASA Nerds. JamesBR@wco.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Edie Adams Sings? Date: 16 Jul 1997 18:18:45 -0400 > From: Lou Smith > Subject: (exotica) Edie Adams Sings? > > One record with two titles on the cover: Music To Listen To Records By > floats across the top of the picture, while Edie Adams Sings? is written to > the right of an industrial strength photo of the fetching Ms. Adams. In the interview she mentions that she posed with a lug wrench for the cover photo. Is that the industrial element? Hmmm -- could this be the genesis of the hardware & gals calendar genre? m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek Grime" Subject: Re: (exotica) More Whipped Cream Date: 16 Jul 1997 21:01:47 -0400 On Jul 16, 2:25pm, Bruce Rhodewalt wrote: > Subject: Re: (exotica) Misc. > > > I promise: There will be a "Whipped Cream..." web site on the > tikipub.com server some day. Please send any info you have that isn't > apparent from the jacket, sleeve and vinyl itself. Thanks. > I can't remember the artist but I have an 60's LP called "Spaghetti Sauce & Other Delights" which is a parody of "Whipped Cream". -- Derek Grime EMail: derek@coredp.com C.O.R.E. Digital Pictures http://www.coredp.com/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: (exotica) Misc. Date: 16 Jul 1997 20:15:05 -0500 m.ace wrote: > Perhaps our psycho/socio/demographic contingent can diagnose this > one for me: > > For the past week or so I've had a scary amount of early '80s new > wave tunes popping up on my mental hi-fi. i don't know what you're talking about. listening to Soft Cell in my 501's, kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Misc. Date: 16 Jul 1997 23:27:16 -0400 > From: Jbtwist@aol.com > Subject: Re: (exotica) Misc. > > Scoop up those Kajagoogoo LP's NOW !!!!!! At this rate of retro-ism, Can the > Soundgarden Reunion Tour be far behind ? Heck, they're already hawking '90s compilations! We should soon be reaching the point where the retro preceeds the original. Maybe then we'll finally be able to get something really new going?!? m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: (exotica) Re: 80s revival Date: 16 Jul 1997 18:15:27 +0000 The thing about an eighties revival, if you ask me, is not that it might be happening but that, despite 2-3 years of people hyping one, investing in it, and theorizing about it, it hasn't really take off. Eighties nights at clubs seem intermittent and often short-lived, the various 80s music compilation series all seem somehow imperfect, and Time magazine has yet to do a cover story. Perhaps all these still-born attempts to keep the revival off will finally pay off, but I think it's still going to take some time. Will Will Straw Associate Professor and Acting Director, Graduate Program in Communications McGill University 3465 rue Peel, Montreal, Quebec H3A 1W7 Phone: (514) 398 7667; Fax: (514) 398 4934 http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/ Director, The Centre for Research on Canadian Cultural Industries and Institutions http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/crccii/ Co-editor. Topia: A Journal of Canadian and Cultural Studies http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/topia/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Micheleflp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Letter to L.A. Weekly/Lounge Attack Date: 17 Jul 1997 02:24:25 -0400 (EDT) Well, by now you all must be wondering if anyone ever wrote in and complained about the lounge attack article in the L.A. Weekly, called "Return of the Repressed" The following letter was printed in the July 11-17th issue: "In 'The Return of the Repressed' (June 20-26), Manohla Dargis writes, "Confused by feminism and post-feminism, irritated by identity politics, weaned on Nick at Night, catered to by an endless run of male lifestyle magazines, primed by Tarantino, slave to the gym, shut out of the coolest male subjectivity (Public Enemy got it wrong: It was never fear of a Black Planet; it was envy), disgusted by Clinton, bored by the Republicans, bored by alt-rock, bored period, young white guys are regressing into the past and finding a faux-hipster identity that they can groove on in all its single-malt glory." My, what a hornet's net of buzz-words. But isn't her rationale of why white males are turning to the Cocktail Nation scene the same one that was supposed to explain why white maies loved grunge so much? You know, boredom, disgust, disenchantment, frustration? Wait, I remember now, that's why we loved punk so much. Or was it gangsta rap? Or extreme sports? Or Jenny McCarthy? Then again, maybe Ms. Dargis' rationale is a stock answer for lazy pop-culture writers hoping to have their rock reviews and cheesy movie-fest articles come off as think pieces instead of puff pieces. Plain and simple, no guy I know gets into the Rat Pack, the swinging '60s, Bond films or any of this junk without an incredible shot of irony. It's a joke - a slick, self-consciously suave joke, but a joke nonetheless, and one that Ms. Dargis' humorless essay - one can assume that's her feminist side speaking and not her post-feminist side, eh? - completely misses. No one I know wants to be Sinatra or one of the Pack. But their laughably naive and block-headed approach to life, marinated liberally in Sinatra's endless romanticism of said life, is some of the most subtle comedy going right now. Context, Manohla, context. It's the spice of life. Or as Frank once put it to Juliet Prowse, "Come on baby, swing a little."' - Ben Schwartz Hollywood # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pea Hicks Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: 80s revival Date: 16 Jul 1997 23:47:50 -0700 Will Straw wrote: > > The thing about an eighties revival, if you ask me, is not that it > might be happening but that, despite 2-3 years of people hyping one, > investing in it, and theorizing about it, it hasn't really take off. > Eighties > nights at clubs seem intermittent and often short-lived, the various > 80s music compilation series all seem somehow imperfect, and > Time magazine has yet to do a cover story. Perhaps all these > still-born > attempts to keep the revival off will finally pay off, but I think > it's > still going > to take some time. > > Will > Plus you have to remember that i think there's alot of 80's music that never really fell out of rotation the same way that, say, disco just fell completely off the map. Heck, i remember our local "alternative" radio station, 91X, first started doing 80's revival weekends around 1988 or so. ever since then, there's always been a deliberate attempt to at least periodically keep alot of that stuff in rotation in some form or another. Even MTV had an 80's revival show around 1990 or so (what was that called...?). I don't think there was quite such an attempt made with mainstream 70's music and culture. I think you could probably say that there was a period of at least a few years when alot of mainstream 70's pop groups simply could not be found *anywhere* in rotation. The backlash seemed pretty severe, as far as i can tell. Anything that's ever been denied so heavily has always come back for a vengeance! The 80's was really a time when all sorts of counter-cultural things really started to go mainstream. Just look at, for example, a group like the Thompson Twins, which seem to be totally mainstream 80's pop culture. But think of them in terms of the way they looked, their punk roots, their use of synthesizers, etc and they really do seem light years away from what was on the Top 40 just a few years before in the 70s. I guess my point is that since there's always a necessary dose of irony in any of these pop culture revivals, as we move into 80's territory there's less and less to be ironic about, hence it's more difficult to put a new spin on that stuff. Not that I think the Thompson Twins are some kind of pillar of credibility, i just think that the aesthetic boundaries here are a bit more blurred than with a group like, say, The Bee Gees. The Thompson Twins, as saccharine as they may seem, already had alot of irony built into what they were doing, so as we move into the 80's it makes less and less sense to add our own ironic "spin" on things. Case in point: look at a band like Servotron. They're currently doing this real hyperactive pastiche of the "Devo" aesthetic. They're pretty good/funny, but it ultimately seems pointless because Devo was already being campy/ironic about their image to begin with. I think that maybe the "exotica" revival might be partially credited to alot of the people that *would* be reviving the 80's right now, but they simply have no compelling need to do so. So instead, they're getting interested in a different revival that, for them, really comes from way out of left field and really feels like something new. There's still plenty of new "spins" that can be added to the "exotica" genre. Obviously this can't be any kind of blanket statement, but I certainly think it's somewhat true for myself (I'm 26) and some of the people i know. I still love 80's pop music, but have never had any need to "revive" it because i never put it on the shelf in the first place!! Also (and this is kind of disorganized, I know!) i think it's important to make a distinction between a general pop culture revival and more specific "scene" revivals. You could say, for instance, that there's currently at least one legit 80's scene revival happening- 80's style ska. (Which was, of course, originally a revival of 60's ska to begin with, but that's another story...) You could also argue that, like the punk and disco before it, ska never really died out completely- it only "went to the bathroom" (to quote a famous house music producer's comment on where disco went in the early/mid 80's). You could also say the same thing about goth music- i think there's plenty of room for that to receive a large scale revival (though you could argue that it's already happening- only it's been combined with the glam metal revival in the form of bands like Marilyn Manson). In any event, these more specific "scene" revivals seem to be where most of the 80's reviving is going on. The more mainstream, general stuff from the 80's just doesn't seem to require much resuscitation! thanks for trying to follow my meandering thought process... pea -- Pea Hicks "Memory is my drug of choice." <---Realm 'O' The Optigan---> http://www.pilot.com/optigan Who will be the next to brave the *perils* of the VIRTUAL OPTIGAN??! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clean@bitstream.net Subject: Re: (exotica) More Whipped Cream Date: 17 Jul 1997 12:06:54 -0600 >On Jul 16, 2:25pm, Bruce Rhodewalt wrote: >> Subject: Re: (exotica) Misc. >> >> >> I promise: There will be a "Whipped Cream..." web site on the >> tikipub.com server some day. Please send any info you have that isn't >> apparent from the jacket, sleeve and vinyl itself. Thanks. >> > >I can't remember the artist but I have an 60's LP called "Spaghetti >Sauce & Other Delights" which is a parody of "Whipped Cream". > "Pat Cooper" was it? there are other spoofs as well... you should put 'em all on the site! "Sweet Cream & Other Delights" (feat. 70's black woman) "Sour Cream & Other Delights" (5 old women) "Clam Dip & Other Delights" (Soul Asylum) more...? visit... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ King Kini's C L U B V E L V E T http://www.tamboo.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Re: Mental sounds Date: 17 Jul 1997 13:46:13 EST5EDT m.ace wrote: > Perhaps our psycho/socio/demographic contingent can diagnose this one for me: > For the past week or so I've had a scary amount of early '80s new wave tunes > popping up on my mental hi-fi. This morning it was Nena's "99 Luftballoons"! (I > had a heck of a time identifying that one, especially since I was hearing an > instrumental version.) Is my subconscious mind trying to tell me that it's > useless to brush that stuff under the rug? Doesn't take a psychologist to know that "what goes around comes around" (I think I got that saying right?) as the very existence of this list attests to. Seems to be a revival of 70's German "Krautrock" currently happeneing these days. But as for late 70's - early 80's new wave, it's time will come. Especially so seeing as that was a time that produced a huge lot of very strong output and energy, nothing like it IMO has since matched it. So don't feel too bad, I hear even stranger examples of the genre popping up in my head, just this morning now that I think about it Renaldo & The Loaf... Yesterday Der Plan... Tomorrow??? Happy listening, Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: riviera@tiac.net Subject: (exotica) "Lounge" strikes back! Date: 17 Jul 1997 15:35:06 -0400 (EDT) >My, what a hornet's net of buzz-words. But isn't her rationale of why white >males are turning to the Cocktail Nation scene....... >Plain and simple, no guy I know gets into the Rat Pack, the swinging '60s, >Bond films or any of this junk without an incredible shot of irony. It's a >joke - a slick, self-consciously suave joke, but a joke nonetheless, Aaaawwww...and it started out in such a promising way. Disappointedly, The Millionaire # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) Re: RJ Smith Date: 17 Jul 1997 15:01:38 -0400 >indications of character when a "friend" does not make good on moniesowed to >other "friends". I may be wrong, but I think this was what the original >author of the post was trying to point out. Wait! Hang on everybody. That was just an anecdote I threw out for a laugh--i never intended to suggest any deep character flaws. I'm sure RJ is now a upstanding and well-adjusted adult. As I say, I would hate to be held accountable for everything *I* did as a 20-year old. --Ross # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) New Wave Date: 17 Jul 1997 16:36:55 -0400 > From: Pea Hicks > Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: 80s revival > > Anything that's ever been denied so > heavily has always come back for a vengeance! Once again, I'm quoting Pea out of context, 'cause it seems so fitting for the little 80s cavalcade going on in my head. I've got to 'fess up. In recent years I have tended to block out my memories of the new wave side of those years (late 70s/early 80s) in favor of the punk side. 'Cause punk was TUFF and new wave was "industry manufactured" (where have we heard that phrase lately?). Wotta dope. I really should know better by now. At the time I listened to plenty of new wave and maybe even identified with that term more than punk ("new wave" might get you sneered at, but "punk" could get you beaten up). By the time punk became more codified with a (nearly) heavy metal approach, the wider variety of new wave seemed more interesting. I don't think I really bought the "manufactured" rap back then, but with it being repeated all these years, maybe I began to be influenced by it. Funny how I could tune into "abused" musics like exotica, while casting the same abuse on new wave. Maybe it just needed to age a little. But I guess it's time to embrace my inner spikehead and cast a fresh eye on new wave. And new wave is not without certain (loose definition) exotica characteristics. It could be very colorful, with clever, snappy arrangements. Like exotica, new wave does not have a single defining style -- lots of variety. And then there's Lene Lovich -- if we could edit together her non-verbal moments, she could certainly stand toe-to-toe with any of the abstract female vocalists we've been discussing. And of course, exotica and new wave have both been dismissed as piffle by the pundits. Then again, maybe I've just been having too much subliminal exposure to these K-Tel style TV ads for 80s comps. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: (exotica) New (sealed) LPs and more Date: 17 Jul 1997 16:57:54 -0400 See all the sealed LPs now listed at Deep Groove + Wilds Sounds: http://www.charm.net/~wilds/WSounds/ Need some Jimmy Swaggart to help you cope with temptation in this hellish summer? No problem. We've got plenty of untainted Jim, on Jim Records, to meet your needs. Just don't speak to us of IRONY, please. Record collecting is sacred. Other newness at Wilds Sounds: lowered prices less old stock to wade through new, near-mint exotica from the estate sale James Blonde Jack Sperling's Fascinatin' Rhythm (Coral stereo) Nashville Brass play the Nashville Sound VA: Kings of Steel Guitar Cugat's Latin-American Rhythms -- 40pp sheet music more Polynesian films more used CDs posters Get 'em now before they go to shows. And make everyday truly EXOTIC! wilds The Wilds Scene: LPs * Sabu Home Page * Tiki Gallery http://www.charm.net/~wilds/ Email lists: new LP arrivals, web pages/sites, comps To receive, email: wilds@charm.net "I'm just a wild man. You know I'm not a follow-style man." -- Mose Allison # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert P. Krajewski" Subject: Re: (exotica) Hippies and Demographics Date: 17 Jul 1997 18:53:47 -0400 >In France, there has always been demand for clever lyrics and quality >production numbers. Artists such as Serge Gainsbourg, Dalida, and Les >Campagnons de la Chanson blended American jazz influences of the forties >with traditional French musical styles such as Musette (a sort of street >accordian music, "Tin Pan Alley" a la francaise.) You know, you might have hit on the underlying reason why rock/pop from the Continent, and Europe in particular, has always had a major credibility problem in the United States. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vik Trola Subject: (exotica) hmmmm... Date: 17 Jul 1997 21:19:02 -0500 interesting what you find while cleaning out old mail... >>Welcome to exotica Any email message sent to exotica@xmission.com will immediately be forwarded to all members of the exotica mailing list. New members are encouraged to introduce themselves. When you join, please send a message to the list describing (in brief) who you are and your interest in the list's topic. Here are some guidelines to remember when using the list: * The list is not meant to be used as an advertising forum, though short notices of the form "I have for sale; please email me for a full list" are acceptable as long as the items for sale are directly relevant to the topic of the mailing list. * The usual rules of list courtesy apply:... (no general advertisements "warnings" about viruses, chain letters, and so forth).<< guess it's like those laws where you can't carry a pig through Yorktown in winter months with an "r" in them... waking up in the city that never sleeps, Vik Vik's Lounge http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/lounge.html Space Age Bachelor Pad Music http://www.chaoskitty.com/sabpm/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Batman Date: 17 Jul 1997 23:31:30 -0400 (EDT) I dropped by my local Tower Records for the Ernie Kovacs Collection and spotted Razor and Tie's reissue of two classic Neal Hefti Batman LP's, "Hefti In Gotham City" and "Batman Theme And Other Bat Songs". Twenty titles altogether, two complete albums, original artwork. Not much in the way of liner notes, but for then sale price of $8.99, ya can't go wrong!! The Gotham City LP features "Gotham City Municipal Swing Band", the main theme on Bob Wilkens "Creature Features" show back in the late sixties, early seventies. You SF Bay Area people know who I mean. Someone on the list asked about this record awhile back, so now is your chance! The Kovacs is great. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert P. Krajewski" Subject: Re: (exotica) Hippies and Demographics -- Doh ! Date: 17 Jul 1997 23:53:04 -0400 In a previous article I wrote: >You know, you might have hit on the underlying reason why rock/pop from >the Continent, and Europe in particular, has always had a major >credibility problem in the United States. What I *meant* to say, your majesty, was: >You know, you might have hit on the underlying reason why rock/pop from >the Continent, and *France* in particular, has always had a major >credibility problem in the United States. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jjones@richnet.net (John Jones) Subject: (exotica) Jewish Brass Date: 18 Jul 1997 11:30:23 GMT Hey all! I've seen an album at a local flea market that I was wondering about.=20 I don't remember the whole name of it, but it was a takeoff of Herb Alpert, and it was by the Jewish Brass and it had Lou Jacobi on it.=20 And it was on Capitol records. Is this worth paying a dollar for? Any comments appreciated. Thanx John -- No one will ever know exactly why or how, but by the year 2050, everyone born in Baltimore will look=20 exactly like Ernest Borgnine. Drew Friedman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: (exotica) ambisonics Date: 18 Jul 1997 15:50:11 -0500 Don't know if this was mentioned in the surround sound thread, but while searching the web for info on the KPM music library, I came across a site devoted to ambisonics and surround sound: http://www.apogeedigital.com/ambindex.html it includes info on a surround sound mailing list, plus pointers to articles on the history of ambisonics. I picked up a wonderful KPM disc that's very bosworth/sound galleryish called 'nature study'. some titles are 'dateline safari,' 'on the prowl,' 'premonition fearful,' 'nature bossa.' saw a few of these while in london that were kind of pricey and didn't look as interesting. This has probably been discussed before while I was off-list or 'gone to the restroom,' but has anyone come across other especially good editions of this series? got a sealed On Her Bed of Roses for 8 bucks - are dealers' prices finally falling off - a little? it's a great record... beyond those first two crazy psychedelic excursions, there's some very cool mood jazz - and that humorously manic 'the boozer.' -received those MSR cd's in the mail and I just luv them! and volume 5 is in the works?!!! I'd encourage anyone to visit the Basta site where they've added samples of the Raymond Scott Sounds for Baby discs. kevin king xanadu@radix.net http://www.radix.net/~xanadu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Jack Smith? Kizer's Batman (or Badman???) Date: 18 Jul 1997 21:46:15 -0400 (EDT) Hey gang, I was listening to a local radio station (that is a syndicated program) that features tunes from the 40-60's and heard a catchy tune called: "I was Kizer Bill's Batman (Badman???)" by Jack Smith. Does anyone have information on this song and performer. Vinyl v. CD availability? Thanks, Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Micheleflp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) 80's revival Date: 19 Jul 1997 01:49:47 -0400 (EDT) phix@adnc.com (Pea Hicks) wrote: >Obviously this can't be any kind of blanket statement, but I certainly >think it's somewhat true for myself (I'm 26) and some of the people i >know. I still love 80's pop music, but have never had any need to >"revive" it because i never put it on the shelf in the first place!! >Also (and this is kind of disorganized, I know!) i think it's important >to make a distinction between a general pop culture revival and more >specific "scene" revivals. You could say, for instance, that there's >currently at least one legit 80's scene revival happening- 80's style >ska. (Which was, of course, originally a revival of 60's ska to begin >with, but that's another story...) You could also argue that, like the >punk and disco before it, ska never really died out completely- it only >"went to the bathroom" (to quote a famous house music producer's comment >on where disco went in the early/mid 80's). You could also say the same >thing about goth music- i think there's plenty of room for that to >receive a large scale revival (though you could argue that it's already >happening- only it's been combined with the glam metal revival in the >form of bands like Marilyn Manson). Pea is 26, I'm 35 and I spent my teenage years and early 20's growing up and listening to KROQ which was the new wave station that made their career on 80's music like Flock of Seaguls, Thomspon Twins, etc. (Kevin mentioned Soft Cell) Anyway the thing that I find so disturbing about the K-Tel-izing of the 80's music which is now being hocked on national television is the complete lack of respect for something that for some of us may hold fond memories. I guess it is the quick comoditization or the co-opting that is being done, like, "isn't anything sacred?!" Apparently if there is a buck to be made the music industry is ready to cash in. The other annoying thing about it is the lumping together on these albums of ALL 80's music - where Kajagoogoo is on the same album as Toto - as if the people who are to buy these albums have no music taste that they'd like all these bands - I'm not really stringing this together as coherantly as I'd like, but what they are doing is highjacking culture taking the specialness out of something - like they did with Greenday and punk rock. I mean, who ever thought that the day would come when we could go into Nordstroms and buy a pair of Doc Martins?! My other thought along the lines of what Pea had to say is why the 80's? Well, he's right - at the time those KROQ bands were really doing something that was totally different style-wise/music-wise and therefore today is a "novelty" and lends itself to being retro-ized very quickly than something like the 70's music which was not a great departure from what had come before it (this is just my opinion). Remember when jackets with fringe were in style in the 1980's? A year or two after that fad was over, no one would want to be caught dead in that outfit and anyone that'd wear a jacket like that would stick out like a sore thumb. I think the 80's new wave is much like the fringe jacket in that it sticks out like a sore thumb in the continuum of music between the 1960's and 1990's. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) 80's revival - name game Date: 19 Jul 1997 14:54:24 -0400 > From: Micheleflp@aol.com > Subject: (exotica) 80's revival > > Pea is 26, I'm 35 and I spent my teenage years and early 20's growing up and > listening to KROQ which was the new wave station that made their career on > 80's music like Flock of Seaguls, Thomspon Twins, etc. > > The other annoying thing > about it is the lumping together on these albums of ALL 80's music - where > Kajagoogoo is on the same album as Toto > > I think the 80's new wave is much > like the fringe jacket in that it sticks out like a sore thumb in the > continuum of music between the 1960's and 1990's. I guess the basic gist of my "New Wave" post was that even when you try to have a very "open ear" policy towards music, you can still develop a blind spot here and there. And this is probably more likely when the blind spot involves something from your own recent past. Maybe an element of, "I've already done that to death -- go away." Reading these posts, I'm thinking that we may all have different views of what new wave is. In the K-Tellers' vision, apparently any 80's release by white people who are NOT heavy metal qualifies. Or bouncy music with lotsa keyboards. For me and my circle (about Michele's age and in the northeast US), it was more like this... Punk had hit in '77, but I think it was '78 when the term new wave came into use. To us, the difference seemed pretty simple. Punk was totally aggressive, with a sound based purely on heavily distorted guitars -- Ramones, Pistols, Damned, etc. New Wave was the stuff that was a clear break from conventional rock, but wasn't punk either. Devo, B-52s, Magazine, The Monochrome Set, Lene Lovich, etc. (trying to be diverse here). As such, new wave didn't have a clearly defined "sound", and it's always nice to have vague boundaries. We loved punk, but new wave seemed to create a real healthy environment of quirkiness and originality -- at least until the carbon-copy types flooded the pool within a few years. By '83, I think new wave had become pretty much a dead term for us. It had been superceded by the flowering of all sorts of sub-genres. In punk alone, you had "classic punk", "post-punk" and "hard-core punk" (whatever happened to soft-core punk?). As early as '83, I was hearing "80's Pop" used to describe stuff like the Go-Go's or the Human League. I THINK it was also around this time that interviewed artists started saying things like, "Oh, I had nothing to do with new wave -- that was just something you writers made up." The distancing had begun (although that remark may have sometimes been true). So my personal image of new wave is the earlier, quirkier stuff -- which slipped through before the industry figured out how to rig the new game. I have trouble seeing the later, more manufactured sounding stuff as new wave. Then again, I listened to college stations, so my viewpoint was prejudiced in a more radical direction. BUT -- I'm thinking that even though I always thought of the Flock Of Seagull's singer as "that unfortunate fellow with the silly pizza slice haircut" -- this may be falling into the old rock-style "cool" syndrome. And I should give the later stuff a shot as well, from an exotica sort of perspective (meaning; without prejudice, with fresh ears, something like that). As for the clunkiness of the comps currently being hawked, whaddya expect? If you want scholarly boxed sets you might have to wait a little. I take that back -- they're probably already out there. Wasn't there a Stiff Records box a couple of years ago already? I dig that fringe jacket analogy. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Jack Smith? Kizer's Batman (or Badman???) Date: 19 Jul 1997 16:57:21 -0400 > From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com > Subject: (exotica) Jack Smith? Kizer's Batman (or Badman???) > > "I was Kizer Bill's Batman (Badman???)" by Jack Smith. > Does anyone have information on this song and performer. I think the title is actually, "I Was Kaiser Bill's Bat Man". For some reason, it sticks in my head that it's a British novelty tune having something to do with WW1 and cricket (I'm probably all wet). I know nothing about Jack Smith. Maybe one of our British associates can straighten this out. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vernon Stoltz Subject: Re: (exotica) Whipped Cream. Date: 19 Jul 1997 21:51:58 GMT At 02:25 PM 7/16/97 -0700, you wrote: >I promise: There will be a "Whipped Cream..." web site on the >tikipub.com server some day. Please send any info you have that isn't >apparent from the jacket, sleeve and vinyl itself. Thanks. > How about some whipped cream with a twist? Check out: http://dryer.www.media.mit.edu/people/dryer/g/daniels.html A fellow by the name Godfrey Daniels entered a car in the 1997 Art Car Weekend held in Houston. His art car was plastered with actual copies of the "Whipped Cream" album and for the art car parade featured a real live model doing a pretty good job of recreating the famous cover pose. His Web site features many, many photographs presenting a pseudo-documentary of his entire trek: from making the art-car itself, transporting it across country, and of course the parade itself. Paging through his photo journey was by far the most entertaining things I've done this week. Completely 100% Amazing!! One warning: there are lots of photos, so if you have a slow network connection, it will take a while to get through it all. Still, its well worth doing so. His Web Page also features his latest creation: the whipped cream bicycle!! I haven't checked that section yet myself . . .gotta save some of the cream of the crop for later tasting.. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) I Was Kaiser Bill's Batman Date: 19 Jul 1997 20:21:00 -0400 (EDT) Sung by Whistling Jack Smith, reached #20 on the Billboard Charts on June 3, 1967. Here's what the blurb says: "Whistling Jack Smith never existed. There had been a Whispering Jack Smith, though - a British recording artist who half-talked and half-sang his way through tunes because of a WWII injury. Not a soul who bought "I Was Kaiser Bill's Batman" suspected that Whistling Jack Smith was a total fabrication. Even knowing this would not have made much difference: the song and the artist had silly names, the tune had an infectious little melody, and the dingy disk was disturbingly different from anything on top 40 radio at that time. A fog surrounds the actual conception of Jack the whistler. Was it the uncredited producer of the session, or the tune's conceivers - the songwriting team of Greenaway and Cook - who dreamed up the idea? Possibly the whole episode was a spur-of-the-moment studio fluke. We do know that the song features the Mike Sammes Singers, a then-popular TV group, plus some session musicians. Once copies of "I Was Kaiser Bill's Batman" began flying off the shelves, a Jack Smith had to be located for making personal appearances. Billy Moeller (b. Feb. 2, 1946, Liverpool) - brother of Tommy Moeller, lead singer for Unit Four Plus Two - agreed to play the role of Jack smith and tour behing the single. He had been recording for British Decca as Coby Wells, and his disks under that name had no exactly been burnig holes in the charts. When Whistling Jack's magic moment had passed, Billy Moeller returned to being Coby Wells and, later still, recorded under his God-given name. Poor fellow: even under three different pseudonyms, he was unable to place another disk on the charts in the US or the UK." Now!! aren't you glad you asked? And we all thought Milli Vanilli were the only ones to fake making a record!! Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: (exotica) Batman Date: 20 Jul 1997 14:44:22 -0500 BasicHip@aol.com wrote: > "Batman Theme And Other Bat Songs". Twenty titles altogether, two > complete albums, original artwork. Not much in the way of liner > notes, but for then sale price of $8.99, ya can't go wrong!! Razor & Tie are also coming out with original soundtracks for Secret Agent and The Saint next month! also bargain priced. kevin king xanadu@radix.net http://www.radix.net/~xanadu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jessica Cameron Subject: (exotica) Recent Finds Date: 20 Jul 1997 16:13:29 -0400 I haven't had any time to write about what I've found at the flea market lately until now. Most of it's pretty general, but I don't have anything better to do, and the list has been sort of dull lately. So bear with me, OK? ^_- The "Jessica has Flipped!" file: State Fair original motion picture soundtrack: The oh-so wholesome Pat Boone and Bobby Darin cover conceals an amazing, five minute track by Ann-Margret: "Isn't it Kind of Fun?" She starts out like Deanna Durbin and in mid-song starts getting torchy and bongo-delic. This song is great!!!!! Lawrence Welk's Baby Elephant Walk: I never thought I'd live to see the day I bought a Lawrence Welk album, but I saw one of the tracks from this album performed on his show last night on public tv, and decided to buy the whole dang album. For thirty-five cents, it's a keeper. Lounge albums: Happiness is the Jack D'Johns (???): with a sucky yet enjoyable version of "Caravan." Daybreak by the After Six Combo: Blood, Sweat, and Tears-esque lounge. Kinda nice. Dennis de Souza and his Trio: Rendezvous for Rhythm (pleasant piano jazz) The Zara's Hits (the best of all the lounge albums I bought--cool versions of Telstar, the Happy Organ, etc.) Easy listening, etc.: Big Band Guitar by Buddy Morrow The Most, vol. IV (jazz cuts, one by Machito) The Happy Sound of Ray Conniff (Ray tries to be all things to all people by attacking disco and big band in the same album. He also poses with his scary looking family on the cover.) Miss Smith Goes to Paris (Ethel, that is) My Reverie by the Three Suns Overheard in a Cocktail Lounge by the Murray Arnold Quartet (guitar by Barney Kessel) Scary stuff: Stereo Dynamics to Scare Hell out of Your Neighbors (skeleton cover--eeeek!!) Children's Missionary Adventure stories (religious racism--eeeeeeeekkk!!!!) Adventures in Sound: Gypsy Fire by Boris Sarbeck Dark Eyes by Boris Sarbeck Now sounds: The Hullabaloo Show (!!!) Is that all there is? by Peggy Lee (Peggy rocks on some tracks--this is almost as cool as her "Sounds of the 70s") Soundstage Spectacular by Terry Baxter (weird versions of movie hits--some electronic noodling) PARTY HAPPENING: 90 minutes of dance music: This one's pretty cool. It's a three record set from Audio Fidelity records, made up of "Jet Set Discoteque," "Latin Discoteque," and "Tequila a go-go." It even has one Harry Breuer cut. Thanks for the space, Jessica ^_^ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Recent Finds Date: 20 Jul 1997 18:48:39 -0400 > From: Jessica Cameron > Subject: (exotica) Recent Finds > > Lawrence Welk's Baby Elephant Walk: I never thought I'd live to see the day > I bought a Lawrence Welk album, but I saw one of the tracks from this album > performed on his show last night on public tv, and decided to buy the whole > dang album. For thirty-five cents, it's a keeper. As long as you've broken that barrier, you might want to keep an eye out for LW's "Calcutta!" (DOT DLP 3359). "The smash hit single leads a parade of instrumental hits" "Featuring Frank Scott at the harpsichord" "Arrangements by Larry Gordon, Bill Fontaine, George Wyle, Bob Ballard, George Cates, Milt Rogers and Joe Rizzo" I must admit that I can only handle this album in tiny doses, but "Perfidia" is pretty priceless. It also includes "April In Portugal", for those of you looking to hear every version of that. The harpsichord's sound has an amazingly in-yer-face quality to it. Overall, a brittle and scary sort of album. I'm trying a slightly different setting on my mail program, so if this message comes through oddly, please let me know. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Micheleflp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) 80's Retro Date: 20 Jul 1997 23:39:54 -0400 (EDT) m.ace ecam@voicenet.com wrote: >So my personal image of new wave is the earlier, quirkier stuff -- which >slipped through before the industry figured out how to rig the new game. I have >trouble seeing the later, more manufactured sounding stuff as new wave. I agree with you. My mistake here - in my rush to get the ideas into the email I should have clarified that the early stuff is really the new wave, or what most people think of new wave music. KROQ played the early new wave stuff like the Romantics, Soft Cell, Human League etc, and continued to feature the "alternative" to mainstream music (whatever you want to call it: "alternative," "power pop", etc.) like, The Lightning Seeds, The Lemonheads, Depeche Mode, Duran Duran. I am lumping all this continuum into the one term, "new wave." In anycase, my point was, whatever you want to call it, KROQ really pioneered that sound here in Southern California and it was the alternative soundtrack to my life as I grew up from 16 to 26 years of age (when I was not participating and writing on the punk scene for Flipside) to me, new and alternative stuff like that is rather "sacred ground" and I detest seeing it hocked on television on one of these K-Tel style albums. The advertisement I'm thinking of is for the "Retro 80's" CD set. I guess by retro they are not being specific or meaning to imply that the album is solely going to be the new wave 80's stuff, but it is hard for me to believe that there would be customers out there who would equally be patrons of "Toto" and at the same time listen to the new wave offers on the album. It implies that we've got a bunch of very unsophisticated music consumers out there. >I dig that fringe jacket analogy. And remember the fringe boots to go with it ladies? - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: (exotica) Whipped Cream. Date: 20 Jul 1997 22:35:25 -0600 (MDT) > Check out: http://dryer.www.media.mit.edu/people/dryer/g/daniels.html I second Vern's recommendation, and ask that you continue upward from Godfrey's page and partake of the other varied offerings from Dryer, for your beloved list admin is also a Senior Editor of that fine publication (formerly X Magazine, Your Humor and/or Music Goo). -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) 8T's "Retro" Date: 21 Jul 1997 00:38:11 -0400 (EDT) Doesn't this qualify as an oxymoron?.....Jimmy/Geezerhood is Powerful # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: (exotica) Re: 80's revival Date: 21 Jul 1997 02:41:55 -0500 this thread seems waaaay off topic - so i'll try to keep my own indulgence brief. as a former dc punker who used to slam dance at the foot of the stage while the likes of minor threat or bad brains thrashed and spat, i'd have to say that at the time, 'punk/new wave' bands, a.k.a. 'poseurs,' were just as uncool (or rather, as cool... which was uncool - comprende?) as Toto, ELO and the Little River Band, with whom they would often enough share the airwaves (and I listened to it all - really, even when pretending not to like it. so i guess i got no taste and am eternally uncool, that's ok). Let's not forget that the Police were once considered 'punk,' as was 'Betty Davis Eyes' and Joe Jackson. Hardcore anti-rock aside, a lot of 80's 'new' music was indeed plain power pop and made no excuses for it, including Thompson Twins, ABC, Haircut 100, the Shoes, etc. etc... Some bands had more edginess and straddled the critics' 'punk'/new wave fence, like Blondie, Talking Heads, Costello, XTC. A lot of it was self-conscious of fashion and tongue in cheek to begin with so it's inclusion in a k-tel 80's comp is hardly sacrilege. and I'd be more amused than offended to see them do the same with Joy Division, Gang of Four, the Fall.... Pure Moods II maybe? Or remember that travelling revue last year of Sex Pistol look-alikes ala Beatlemania? ... wait a minute - that was really them wasn't it? Of course, there was, always is i guess, a sizeable underground of sorts going on (officially 'cool' 80's bands like Wire, Slits, Throbbing Gristle, the forever underappreciated Mekons as well as the newly appreciated Raincoats did NOT get airplay alongside Toto)... but the bands mentioned on this thread (most of which I do like) all received heavy exposure and were probably enjoyed by many more people than you imagine, even those who dared listen to other types of music. (I just had a 15 yr. flashback of a bunch of heavy metal enthusiasts at a Cramps/Iggy concert - woohoo!) denying the existence of any punk revival band other than atari teenage riot ('sick sick sick like i've never been sick before!!!!') , running on much longer than intended and hoping not to trod on anyone's sacred ground - then remembering how hardcore punk was a reaction against the sacredness and heroicism of pop (drawing that tenuous connecting line back to today's topic...) ramble off.... kevin king xanadu@radix.net http://www.radix.net/~xanadu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Tiki porno? Date: 21 Jul 1997 03:32:48 -0400 (EDT) >Austrian guy who won this contest to participate in this porno movie where Jasmine St. Clair brakes a new record by getting screwed by 300 guys. They followed this guy from his Austrian village to a Hollywood soundstage where the marathon was filmed, in front of a set decorated with SEVERAL TIKIS Does anyone know the name of the aforementioned porn video? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: Re: (exotica) Jack Smith? Kizer's Batman (or Badman???) Date: 21 Jul 1997 12:17:40 +0100 > From: "m.ace" > > From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com > > Subject: (exotica) Jack Smith? Kizer's Batman (or Badman???) > > > > "I was Kizer Bill's Batman (Badman???)" by Jack Smith. > > Does anyone have information on this song and performer. > > I think the title is actually, "I Was Kaiser Bill's Bat Man". > > For some reason, it sticks in my head that it's a British novelty tune having > something to do with WW1 and cricket (I'm probably all wet). I know nothing > about Jack Smith. > > Maybe one of our British associates can straighten this out. > It's "I Was Kaiser Bill's Batman" by Whistling Jack Smith. It's a 60s novelty tune: purely instrumental, with the melody whistled, a catchy little number. "Batman" is a military term for an attendant to an officer -- in cricket you have a "batsman". FWIW. I don't know about availability on CD -- I think you'd be looking for a 60s compilation album, as I've never heard of anything else Mr. Smith did. I've got it on an old vinyl compilation (Decca: World Of Hits Vol. 2). There are also a few cover versions, including a Latin-ized version by Edmundo Ros (on the "Heading South" album -- the same one that has "Light My Fire"). I always get caught by the key change, but then I've never been much of a whistler. Cheers, Pete. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Tiki tatoos?? Date: 21 Jul 1997 03:32:52 -0400 (EDT) Does anybody out there have a tatoo which features a Tiki or know of someone who does? Contact me. Otto # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: breithel@lund.mail.telia.com (Ingemar Breithel) Subject: Re: (exotica) Jack Smith? Kizer's Batman (or Badman???) Date: 21 Jul 1997 18:00:40 +0100 At 12.17 970721, Peter Hipwell wrote: >It's "I Was Kaiser Bill's Batman" by Whistling Jack Smith. > >I don't know about availability on CD -- I think you'd be looking for >a 60s compilation album, as I've never heard of anything else >Mr. Smith did. There's an entire album called "I Was Kaiser Bill's Batman", released in the US on Deram (DES 18006), where Mr. Smith whistles his way through "Battle Hymn of the Republic", "Waltzing Matilda", "Happy Wanderer", "Hava Nagila" etc. Suffice it to say he's no Muzzy Marcellino or Fred Lowery --the record is definitely a case of so bad it's bad. Ingemar Breithel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TothMD@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Whipped Cream (& cheap imitations in general) Date: 21 Jul 1997 11:46:39 -0400 (EDT) >On Jul 16, 2:25pm, Bruce Rhodewalt wrote: >> Subject: Re: (exotica) Misc. >> >> >> I promise: There will be a "Whipped Cream..." web site on the >> tikipub.com server some day. Please send any info you have that isn't >> apparent from the jacket, sleeve and vinyl itself. Thanks. > >I can't remember the artist but I have an 60's LP called "Spaghetti >Sauce & Other Delights" which is a parody of "Whipped Cream". Several of these covers are at the aforementioned Whipped Cream Car Web site. If you haven't gone to it yet, there is NOTHING you're doing right now that can possibly be more important. *Incredible* Plan on donating at least a half hour of your life though. http://dryer.www.media.mit.edu/people/dryer/g/art_car/0_intro/main.htm One thread I've been meaning to initiate is "cheap imitations" -- a record/artist that was released clearly to capitalize on the popularity of another enormously successful one, perhaps trying to dupe an unsophisticated consumer into thinking it was the original. (Note, sometimes these actually ARE pretty good LPs though) Some I've seen: Command Percussion series rip-offs: maybe one of the most common of this genre; the most blatant being the ones with geometric shapes on the cover and "P******* Percussion" titles Budget label Three Suns knock-offs: "The Twilight Three" on Varsity, and a couple "Three ******s" artists I can't recall their exact names with "Guitar, Organ, Accordian" emblazoned on the cover. Perez Prado and/or "Havana 3 AM" imitations: arguably the funniest being "Havana 2 AM," with "Havana at Midnight" and artist names like "Pedro & His Orchestra" offering additional amusement The Exotic Sounds of Martin Denny/Arthur Lyman: "KAPU (Forbidden): The Exciting Sounds of Milt Raskin" with the Lyman-esque volcano on the front is a noteworthy example Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com TothMD@aol.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-exotica@xmission.com Date: 21 Jul 1997 10:35:24 -0600 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) new esquivel cd's? Date: 20 Jul 1997 16:49:35 +0200 came accross these 2 new Esquivel cd titles : Infinity In Sound / cd, RCA 478722, ?, 1997 Exploring New Sounds In Hi-Fi / cd, RCA 478712, ?, 1997 but i don't know where they were reissued ($27.10 @ gmx) especially the "Infinity In Sound" looks appealing, as it has 10 tracks (if i counted right) not yet on cd. "Exploring" only 5.... Johan Dada@dma.be = Dada@bewoner.dma.be --- Johan |)/\|)/\ Vis Dada@bewoner.dma.be Dada'quariums Exotica: http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/ or: http://195.13.24.3/Dada/ --- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Java Man Subject: (exotica) Schifrin interview transcript Date: 21 Jul 1997 15:06:39 0000 I didn't read it yet, but I know someone out there will be happy to. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Who are the Living Guitars? Date: 22 Jul 1997 00:18:27 -0400 (EDT) Just got two Living Guitar lps - "Shindig" & "Music From The Pink Panther and Other Hits". Both pretty cool. The notes claim that "the guitars are manned by a veritable 'who's who' of the guitar world" , but doesn't bother to mention them by name. Anyone know? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Micheleflp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Retro 80's Date: 22 Jul 1997 01:19:10 -0400 (EDT) Kevin King wrote: > Some bands had more edginess and straddled the >critics' 'punk'/new wave fence, like Blondie, Talking Heads, >Costello, XTC. A lot of it was self-conscious of fashion and tongue >in cheek to begin with so it's inclusion in a k-tel 80's comp is >hardly sacrilege. and I'd be more amused than offended to see them >do the same with Joy Division, Gang of Four, the Fall.... Pure >Moods II maybe? Well, I guess it all boils down to how seriously we take ourselves? Right? Of course Blondie, Talkingheads, etc. broke the barriers down and mainstreamed new wave for the masses and enabled the bands that followed to get their chance in the mainstream sun. We will all agree that this was a good thing since finally all the friends and relatives that were telling us that we were making a mistake with our lives by indulging in punk rock, could at least now see what the attraction was (since it was being played on regular radio, it is assumed that the masses were agreeing with our taste in music) But in so far as being "sacrilege" or finding amusement in the K-Telizing of the music, I guess my discomfort stems from the old punk rock jealousy of not wanting to share the private party with the masses. But I'd like to reiterate my main dislike of this phenomenon, which is the wholesaling of music culture - the mass-marketing of your culture, your music, to the masses. To me, this is not a comfortable feeling by any means. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Micheleflp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Tiki Porno Video Date: 22 Jul 1997 01:19:13 -0400 (EDT) Otto wrote: >Austrian guy who won this contest to participate in this porno movie where >Jasmine St. Clair brakes a new record by getting screwed by 300 guys. They >followed this guy from his Austrian village to a Hollywood soundstage where >the marathon was filmed, in front of a set decorated with SEVERAL TIKIS >Does anyone know the name of the aforementioned porn video? The woman you are talking about was on Howard Stern (no I don't watch that show, but Mike does) and it isn't a movie, it is like the filming of her record-breaking attempt. She had to take antibiotics for like a month prior to this "event" and then after the 300 guys, they had to put her on ice. The tiki's are certainly a weird angle, Mike says nothing was said about the set except that it was Hawaiian or exotic. Well, that's all I got. Maybe somebody else on the list has more info. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Frank Subject: Re: (exotica) Who are the Living Guitars? Date: 22 Jul 1997 08:20:19 -0400 On the couple of LG lps I have ("Shindig" and something else...), Al Caiola is mentioned - no one else, though. > Just got two Living Guitar lps - "Shindig" & "Music From The Pink > Panther and > Other Hits". Both pretty cool. The notes claim that "the guitars are > manned > by a veritable 'who's who' of the guitar world" , but doesn't bother > to > mention them by name. Anyone know? > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: anita_serwacki@newline.com (ANITA SERWACKI) Subject: (exotica) Italian Nudie Sax Date: 22 Jul 1997 10:43:47 -0400 Just back from a big trip to the Amalfi Coast with a stack of EZ records by Italian saxophonists Fausto Papetti and Gil Ventura, all - and I mean ALL - featuring naked senoritas (or certain of their anatomical parts) on the covers. The musical content varies from fairly straight up jazz, to fun pop song covers with female worldless vocals to fairly uninspired dreck - but I'm guessin the musical content wasn't what sold these records. Based on these gentlemen's back catalogs as pictured on the inner sleeves, nearly *every single records each of these guys released over 20 some odd years* had nudie covers. Any Italian list members have some historical info or insight on this trend? grazie! Anita # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Perl Subject: (exotica) CDs must go Date: 22 Jul 1997 17:09:00 +0100 I'm moving continent and will be over in America from this autumn. I therefore am reluctantly having to sell much of my music collection in order to get there. So far I have prepared listings of E/L, exotica, Soundtracks etc on CD. Vinyl will come soon. I'm not selling everything I own, but I am selling quite a bit. Quite a few unusual things here, as well as lots of things most people already have. Feel free to take a look: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/erus/index.html or email me for a list thanks Jonny # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Viktrola Subject: (exotica) Chatting at Vik's Date: 22 Jul 1997 13:17:30 -0500 in the words of TV Food Network's Emeril Lagasse..."Let's kick it up a notch!" web chat has come to Vik's, albeit in an extreme test phase. now Vik is looking for victims...err,,ummm...testers to see if this thing really works. the entrance is at http://www.chaoskitty.com/lounge/ and there's no real help guide yet (we told you it was a work in progress) but drop by and take a spin. Vik will be dropping in throughout the day to see what's up...he's even there now!!! cheers...be talkin' at ya! Vik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vik Trola Subject: (exotica) this didn't make the list...trying again Date: 22 Jul 1997 20:19:50 -0500 we're trying out a very very early version of a chat area over a Vik's. drop by http://www.chaoskitty.com/lounge/ and see if it works. there may be an Internet Explorer bug...let us know... waking up in the city that never sleeps, Vik Vik's Lounge http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/lounge.html Space Age Bachelor Pad Music http://www.chaoskitty.com/sabpm/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: Re: (exotica) 80's Retro Date: 23 Jul 1997 12:26:30 +0000 KROQ's role in creating a sense of what "New Wave" was can't be underestimated . . . in particular, the idea that it was about eclecticism (everything from the neo-rockabilly of the Stray Cats through British synth pop and new girl groups like the Go-Go's), and that it was about recreating some of the sense of excitement and novelty associated with older Top 40 radio stations. This package was part of programmer Rick Carroll's genius, and if you follow the marketing of the format outward from California during the early 1980s you can see the spread of the idea of New Wave as being bound up with a rebirth of teenage culture. And in the wake of that came the bratpack movies and MTV. Will Will Straw Associate Professor and Acting Director, Graduate Program in Communications McGill University 3465 rue Peel, Montreal, Quebec H3A 1W7 Phone: (514) 398 7667; Fax: (514) 398 4934 http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/ Director, The Centre for Research on Canadian Cultural Industries and Institutions http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/crccii/ Co-editor. Topia: A Journal of Canadian and Cultural Studies http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/topia/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MONATOT@aol.com Subject: (exotica) re:80's revival Date: 23 Jul 1997 12:29:48 -0400 (EDT) Just a not-so-quick response to all the 80's talk- I was a newwave geek girl back in the day, and as much as this music was a sacred secret joy to me, I think it's only natural that it now gets the K-Tel treatment. You have to imagine, for every cheesy retro compilation, there is an original die-hard lover of that trashed genre shedding a wistful tear for the heyday...nothing is sacred! Yup, I knew plenty of kids who willingly listened to Toto, Simple Minds, Journey, Whitney Houston and Duran Duran, all with equal exuberance. They liked whatever they heard on pop radio and saw on MTV...just like nowadays, when teens seem to find room to enjoy crass rap artists, lazy r&b ballads, twee bands like the Cardigans, along with Oasis and the Brit-wave stuff and heck, even Squirrel Nut Zippers. If it's on the radio, it must be cool, they think. But I find it truly sweet that many high school goers are discovering 80's newwave/pop- my girlfriend's little sister (now 16) loves early Police and Billy Idol, and she has a few of those 80's comps, too. But what does this have to do with Exotica? I'll save face by asking this question:anyone know anything about Bimbo and les Royale Tahitians (sp)?-I heard their music used in a short animated film, and it was dreamy, percussive Polynesian-esque stuff- is anything currently available, and is it recommended? Thanks to all for suffering through my babble- Mona # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "George V. Chastain" Subject: (exotica) Need info on Brother Theodore recording(s) Date: 23 Jul 1997 12:44:52 -0400 (EDT) Can anyone provide details about any recording(s) by stage performer and occasional film actor Brother Theodore (Gottlieb)? I found his intense version of Poe's story "Berenice" on a Halloween compilation tape a couple of years ago, and there must be more of his stuff out there somewhere. Any help will be greatly appreciated. George Chastain # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) new esquivel cd's? Date: 23 Jul 1997 13:40:38 -0400 At 4:49 PM +0200 7/20/97, Johan Dada Vis wrote: >came accross these 2 new Esquivel cd titles : >Infinity In Sound / cd, RCA 478722, ?, 1997 >Exploring New Sounds In Hi-Fi / cd, RCA 478712, ?, 1997 Just a word to the wise - If you live in the U.S., don't bother buying these high priced imports. Why, you ask? Details will be announced soon. that ol' diskteaser, br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: (exotica) Retro 80's Date: 23 Jul 1997 14:36:52 -0500 Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > > Kevin King wrote: > > > Some bands had more edginess and straddled the > >critics' 'punk'/new wave fence, like Blondie, Talking Heads, > >Costello, XTC. A lot of it was self-conscious of fashion and tongue > >in cheek to begin with so it's inclusion in a k-tel 80's comp is > >hardly sacrilege. and I'd be more amused than offended to see them > >do the same with Joy Division, Gang of Four, the Fall.... Pure > >Moods II maybe? > > Well, I guess it all boils down to how seriously we take ourselves? > Right? Not at all. It's a matter of reading the content as well as the trend. There's a paradox in the marketing of punk that was exploited long ago (remember Rock 'n Roll Swindle?... or for more recent self-awareness (that's not such a swindle) try Mekons' Rock 'n Roll) It's a love/hate of r 'n r thing. As someone else I think stated, one of the joys of punkhood was to poke fun at loyal Deadheaders or worshippers at the arena rock altar. So you can't miss the irony of aging new-wavers creating an altar of their own, can you? I respect your sentiments. But though I may tend to express myself with more than the necessary dose of good natured humor (and a little flippancy when it gets late), my comments were made in all seriousness. kevin king xanadu@radix.net http://www.radix.net/~xanadu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Nude Wave (re-post) Date: 23 Jul 1997 15:02:55 -0400 It's been almost 24 hours since my first attempt at sending this, and it still hasn't turned up in Exotica. So here we go again. The usual apologies for any doubles that may turn up. > From: kevin king > Subject: (exotica) Re: 80's revival > > Of course, there was, always is i guess, a > sizeable underground of sorts going on (officially 'cool' 80's bands > like Wire, Slits, Throbbing Gristle, Then again, concepts like "officially cool" are part of the problem with the rock mindset. I still haven't managed to completely de-program that sort of thing out of my head. (And no matter how much I used to deny it, there's no getting around it -- even at its most anti-rock, punk is still rock. And some punk bands got rather pompously "heroic" themselves.) It's very prescient of you to mention The Slits, in light of the "Italian Nudie Sax" post. Remember their album, "Cut", with its aggressively de-glamorized approach to the nude cover? It's even somewhat tribal or... exotic. Come to think of it, the music is sort of exotic too, in a very unique way. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: (exotica) Nude Wave Date: 23 Jul 1997 16:16:32 -0500 m.ace wrote: > > (officially 'cool' 80's bands > > like Wire, Slits, Throbbing Gristle, > > Then again, concepts like "officially cool" are part of the problem > with the rock mindset. I still haven't managed to completely > de-program that sort of thing out of my head. (And no matter how > much I used to deny it, there's no getting around it -- even at its > most anti-rock, punk is still rock. And some punk bands got rather > pompously "heroic" themselves.) Exactly! and that's why some of the more successful bands like the Clash, U2 (who've turned the whole irony thing into a vaudeville act) have been chided for 'selling out.' > It's very prescient of you to mention The Slits, in light of the > "Italian Nudie Sax" post. Remember their album, "Cut", with its > aggressively de-glamorized approach to the nude cover? It's even > somewhat tribal or... exotic. Come to think of it, the music is sort > of exotic too, in a very unique way. I luuuurv the Slits - pre-riot grrrl act that they were! Their other Lp 'Return of the Giant Slits' is also brilliant (if you can find it). They do have an exotic sound, more specifically it was heavily influenced by reggae. They were big fans - sported dreadlocks even. kevin king xanadu@radix.net http://www.radix.net/~xanadu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: (exotica) Max theremin in Brazil Date: 23 Jul 1997 16:38:10 -0400 Decca is the best label for ethnic pop (exotica). No other major label comes close to their stable of Hawaiian stars; the many Latin and Brazillian records are hard to beat, too. The liners of the 1950 10" LP "Sambas" have this to say of Maximillian Bergere: "Added to his triumphs, Bergere has a mastery of the Theremin, that magical instrument which combs music from the ether waves." ---- Great spins from space: John Keating Space Experience, Jeff Wayne Space Shuttle The Wilds Scene: http://www.charm.net/~wilds/ REAL EXOTICA LPs * Sabu Home Page * Tiki Gallery Get the first word on top LPs. Email: wilds@charm.net "I'm just a wild man. You know I'm not a follow-style man." -- Mose Allison # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jessica Cameron Subject: (exotica) In Praise of Budget Labels..... Date: 23 Jul 1997 16:29:05 -0400 Sorry if this shows up twice...my computer has been acting nutty again..... :( Excuse the following rant, but it's a dreary, rainy day here in Pennsylvania, and the list has been pretty slow lately. I was just thinking about budget labels. REAL budget labels, like Crown, Somerset/Alshire, and Pickwick. Crown and Pickwick are weird cases because their overall quality went up and down so much. It always seemed to me that Crown started out really really cheap, got better for a little bit (nicer jackets, colored vinyl), and then got really really cheap again. Pickwick is the real mystery, because it started out so cool (Happy Moog, anyone?) and then got SO cheap. I bought a 70s Pickwick LP that featured "The Rock Version of the Lord's Prayer," (I knew it would be a cover version, but I wanted to hear it anyway) and it was beyond mere thriftiness. They really scraped the bottom of the barrel--cover versions from "Godspell" on one side, traditional religious music on the other. Does anyone know the true story of the label with an identity crisis? ^_- Another thing--does anyone know how certain recordings would bounce around from label to label? I have a semi-cheap percussion album (sort of a pretender to the "Persuasive" throne) on the Kent label. The sleeve is flimsy, but there are full liner notes giving credit to all the studio musicians--so it's a little better than one of those anonymous labels with just ads on the back cover, but it's still pretty cheap. Anyway, some of the tunes on this album turn up on "Dynamic Percussion" on the Modern label. I also have a Modern "Today's Jazz All-Stars" record with two cuts from "Jazz Heat Bongo Beat" retitled. Did Modern just steal them? (too bad they didn't use those cuts on their "bongo" album by "Haji Baba" which I SWEAR didn't have anything more than a snare drum. >:( !!) My favorite budget label is probably Alshire/Somerset, for putting out so many cool Skip Martin records in the 50s, and so many "NOW" sounds in the 60s. Whatta label! ^_^ BTW, did Skip Martin drop off the face of the earth after the early 60s or what? It doesn't seem like he did anything after those LPs for Somerset. Did he die, or go into a new line of work? Anyhoo, in conclusion, I thought it would be neat if we all gabbed about our _all time favorite_ (don't you hate that expression?) budget label records. Thanks for the space, Jessica ^_^ PS--Mine are Scherajazz, TV Jazz Themes, and Jazz Heat Bongo Beat. PPS--Would you consider Strand to be a budget label? I'm not sure. PPPS--Have a nice day! ^_- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Bent Fabric Date: 23 Jul 1997 20:56:48 -0400 (EDT) A while back there was a bit of chat about the artist called Bent Fabric--here's what I've found based on "Alley Cat", a1962 LP of his, if anyone's still interested: He appears to be named Benton Fabricius-Bjerre based upon the writing credit on an LP-tune called "Early Morning In Copenhagen." He played piano. Quoting from the liners on "Alley Cat"..."The Alley Cats are swinging as never before. It all started when Bent Fabric, the international authority on the swinging life of the Alley Cat, answered the age-old question--what would an Alley Cat play if he could play the piano? Mr. Fabric's demonstration of the Alley Cat's swinging sounds quickly captured the attention of listeners across the land, who secretly knew that the Alley Cat was the hippest of all our four-legged animals. It will come as no surprise to anyone that Fabric is a pretty cool cat himself..............." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Keane Subject: (exotica) Pickwick Date: 23 Jul 1997 20:51:13 -0500 (CDT) I am grateful to Pickwick for supplying me with cheap re-issues (all found in thrift store bins). Pickwick re-released the mighty monster _Ventures in Space_ album. I also think they put out Dionne Warwick cheapies. I have Happy Moog and some disko re-hash called the Disko Band. It's not very good, but I do think they had the right idea in spelling disko with a "k". Also, there is a Neil Diamond tribute band here in Nebraska called Pickwick. Who the hell in *Nebraska* would get that joke (besides me)? Haven't seen them yet, but with a name like that, you just know they're reprising the late-60s Velvet Gloves and Spit Hot August Neil. Went shopping in Chicago and picked up the infamous Yma Sumac "rock" album. All I can say is eeeeyugghhh...why couldn't it be a *real* psychploitation album, instead of this bad prog-fusion crap? I think I might still listen to it just for the vocal workout--she still sounds good, even with all the crap playing in the background. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) In Praise of Budget Labels..... Date: 24 Jul 1997 00:51:59 -0400 (EDT) Sometimes these labels just managed to put out really cool stuff - maybe because by using people who were not exactly "stars" they hit on something more real than the polished big budget acts. Or maybe because their names weren't going on the records, some top session players just got to have fun for a change. One of my recent favorites is "Brasilian Beat '67" by Los Brasilios (Featuring Alberto on marimbas & the Juan Morales Singers) on Design Records. Total Segio Mendes cover rip-off and no more info except for song titles . And it is way better than I expected. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: anita_serwacki@newline.com (ANITA SERWACKI) Subject: Re: (exotica) Pickwick Date: 24 Jul 1997 10:12:29 -0400 >I am grateful to Pickwick for supplying me with cheap re-issues (all >found in thrift store bins). Pickwick re-released the mighty monster >_Ventures in Space_ album. I also think they put out Dionne Warwick >cheapies. I have Happy Moog and some disko re-hash called the Disko >Band. It's not very good, but I do think they had the right idea in >spelling disko with a "k". Within the last year or so, I've also come across a few early-mid 70's Pickwick reissues of Command records. There's a whole new project for ya, Robbie! Anita # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Need info on Brother Theodore recording(s) Date: 24 Jul 1997 10:34:53 -0400 (EDT) At 12:44 PM 7/23/97 -0400, George Chastain wrote: > >Can anyone provide details about any recording(s) by stage >performer and occasional film actor Brother Theodore (Gottlieb)? As far as I know, there are only 2 recordings by Theodore. There's a live recording from 1955 on Proscenium called 'Entertainment of Sinister and Disconcerting Humor.' The studio recording, which included Poe's "Berenice", is called 'Coral Records Presents Theodore.' Good luck finding either! These disks are over-due for re-issue. I find it surprising, given Theodore's long exposure on TV (from Merv Griffin in the 60s to Letterman in the 80s) and his 40+ years performing, that there are no other recordings/videos available. You'd think he had the plague or something. -Lou BTW, Joe Frank has a bit of Bro. Theodore inserted in one of his radio works. Sorry, but I don't recall which one. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (exotica) Welcome to exotica Date: 24 Jul 1997 11:03:08 -0600 (MDT) > Welcome to the exotica mailing list! Just FYI, everyone got this because the subscriber list was accidentally zeroed out at xmission and I needed to resub everyone by hand. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) In Praise of Budget Labels..... Date: 24 Jul 1997 14:24:11 -0400 > From: Jessica Cameron > Subject: (exotica) In Praise of Budget Labels..... > > Anyhoo, in conclusion, I thought it would be neat if we all gabbed about our > _all time favorite_ (don't you hate that expression?) budget label records. Thanks to Kerry for mentioning Pickwick's late 70's re-ish of "Ventures In Space". I wouldn't have thought of that, and it might be a major contributor to leading me down this branch of the road to perdition. They also re-ished the Surfaris' "Wipe Out & Surfer Joe" album around that time. BTW, the actual Surfaris are only on those two tracks ("W.O." & "S.J."). The rest were done by session musicians. It was a very big surprise to The Surfaris when the album came out a mere week after they recorded a batch of tracks for it. It was an even bigger surprise when they listened to it and discovered -- Hey! That's not us! Just another friendly prank from producer Richard Delvy, who along with some members of the Challengers, had signed a contract with DOT representing themselves as the Surfaris. Yeesh! The Surfaris had a lot of dirty dealing going on around them (or to them). Babes in the woods. For his part, Delvy has commented, "...but accidently I kept the rights to 'Wipe Out,' and that particular copyright has been wonderful for me." Yeah, REAL accidental, I bet. But I think Jessica is after something more obscure, so here's an item that is not a favorite, but a bit of a curio... From the label, POWER Apple Honey Series (Newark, NJ), comes The Honolulu Guitars -- "Songs Of Hawaii". Although to be honest, I have a feeling that the Honolulu Guitars may be country session players from Nashville or California. The instrumentation is pedal steel, electric guitar and bass (although the bass parts MIGHT just be the guitar player doing the thumb thing -- the sound is a little too murky to make that out). All with a strong dose of slap-back echo. The steel player has a lot of licks that sound like half-speed swipes from Speedy West. It's fairly sleepy stuff on the whole. The front cover has a nylon string guitar with a straw hat on its tuning head and a couple of leis draped around the neck (a very literal art director), along with an inset photo. On the back cover is a full-size version of this photo, which is: a rather Anglo-looking woman with heavy eyeliner, squatting in the surf, wearing a brown (!), long-sleeved (!), one-piece with a neckline that dips halfway down her torso (but isn't really exciting at all). And that's the Honolulu Guitars. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: loidlink@pixi.com Subject: (exotica) Tales of Don Tiki Date: 24 Jul 1997 09:11:34 -1000 Aloha exoticats + kitties- Howz your long hot summer going? Muchos mahalos for recent inquiries to all who are waiting with baited sushi breath re the release date for "The Exotic Sounds of Don Tiki." The project is finally moving forward again with financing from silent partner with several small labels here (Poki, Pumehana, and Discos Tropic=E1l) who is helping Perry Coma and I form our own... Taboo Records. Goal is to finish additional tracks for mastering by Sept.1 for fall release.=20 We've had some nice press recently in Lounge magazine and Strange & Cool Music. Thanks again to Sam Wick and Dana Countryman for your enthusiasm and kokua. Also, did the exotica music for a Hawaiian Historic Society fundraising event called "Journey to Samolo"... a mythological polynesian kingdom created by Noel Coward in the '30's. Martin Denny struck an antique Burmese gong to start the procession. Seemed appropriate... faux music for a faux kingdom! Hope all have a swell weekend. Me, i'm gonna check out the Hawai'i All-Collectors Show '97 over at Blaisdell Exhibition Hall, then go to the (free!) Ukulele Festival at Kapiolani Park. Imua! On a final note, can't thank Tony the Tiger Wilds enough for the tip on Art Blakey's "Orgy in Rhythm" recent domestic release on Blue Note starring original wild man icon, Sabu. It's the real deal, too hot... go get it kids! Alohadercci, Fluid Floyd/Don Tiki # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: (exotica) Tales of Don Tiki Date: 24 Jul 1997 15:49:03 -0400 >On a final note, can't thank Tony the Tiger Wilds enough for the tip on >Art Blakey's "Orgy in Rhythm" recent domestic release on Blue Note >starring original wild man icon, Sabu. It's the real deal, too hot... go >get it kids! > >Alohadercci, > >Fluid Floyd/Don Tiki Was going to save this for the release party announcement, but if the final Don Tiki CD is anything like the demo, everyone fun has got to have it. I won't say it's the world's only true, exotica party band, because there's also the Swingin' Swamis and maybe some others, but they do have an everything-exotic sound that cries party-fun-carnival even during the quieter, more vibe-ish moments. A good reflection on Hawaii; where there's Don Tiki, there's a party going on. Humor, fun, exotica, can't miss. tony The Wilds Scene: http://www.charm.net/~wilds/ REAL EXOTICA LPs * Sabu Home Page * Tiki Gallery Get the first word on top LPs. Email: wilds@charm.net "I'm just a wild man. You know I'm not a follow-style man." -- Mose Allison # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J. Diamond" Subject: (exotica) KFJC-FM, Jack in the box Date: 24 Jul 1997 12:11:36 -0700 Hello, Anyone who is interested; I'm doing a show this afternoon from 2PM-6PM on 89.7FM, KFJC Tune your fave browser to http://www.kfjc.org and click on Internet Broadcast and see what happens. It will be much different than the "usual" show I do on Sunday mornings though still wonderful The KFJC Internet connection is infinitely better than the "experiment" we had going on before Good luck Later, Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: breithel@lund.mail.telia.com (Ingemar Breithel) Subject: Re: (exotica) In Praise of Budget Labels..... Date: 24 Jul 1997 22:57:03 +0100 >One of my recent favorites is "Brasilian Beat '67" by Los Brasilios >(Featuring Alberto on marimbas & the Juan Morales Singers) on Design Records. >Total Segio Mendes cover rip-off and no more info except for song titles . >And it is way better than I expected. I agree, this is truly excellent. Great pop-jazz beat with organ, bongos and girls vocalizing in unison--someone should reissue it on CD! Produced and arranged by "Bugs" Bower and Joe Abend (whoever they were), the label states. There's an interesting bossa nova exploitation album on Wyncote, called "The Girl from Ipanema" (natch), by Jimmy Davis and Norma Lee. One song is a carbon copy of "Desafinado", there's a really incongruous Les Baxter pastiche, of all things, called "Astrud", as well as some pretty swinging instrumental jazz. Another favorite is Herb Jeffries (spelled Jefferies here) "Devil is a Woman" on Golden Tone. And let's not forget Alshire, who gave us a tiny percentage of brilliant101 Strings albums. Recently I saw an album of theirs which had an African big game hunting theme (can't remember the title). Anyone know if this is worth picking up? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Tiki News #11/zines vol. 2 Date: 24 Jul 1997 17:46:34 -0400 (EDT) The San Francisco issue of Tiki News is out now (aka issue #11) available by mail order from Schwarz Grafiken or at a retail outlet near you. Tiki News is also prominently featured in Vale/VSEARCH's new book "zines vol. 2" at ANY bookstore. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Tiki events SF/LA Date: 24 Jul 1997 17:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Just a reminder that Tiki News night at the Chameleon is tonight Thurs July 24 with Pineapple Princess & Frenchy. ____________________________________________ Friday July 25th CACAO coffeehouse in West Los Angeles "One More Tiki Show" featuring the art of Crazy Al Evans; Michael "Tempo"; Dave Silva 11609 Santa Monica Bl. 7 - 10 pm __________________________ REEF MADNESS CD Release Party at The Paradise Lounge Saturday, August 2 San Francisco REEF MADNESS is new compilation of surf and instrumental bands being released by Deep Eddy Records of Austin Texas. The 74 minute CD will feature 24 bands, from such diverse locations as Finland, New Zealand...... and yes, six from the San Francisco Bay Area. The REEF MADNESS CD Release Party will feature all but one of the Bay Area contributors, and two bands from So. Cal. As you might expect, each of the San Francisco bands offer a unique take on the surf genre. The Aquamen are masters of intoxica, the perfect party band. Pollo Del Mar drags surf music kicking and screaming into the next millenium. The Torpedoes play in the tradition of Hot Rod, with the intensity of Skate-core. Santa Cruz's Sub-Mersians invite you to a place where The Velvet Underground go surfing. Brazil 2001, coming up from Los Angeles, are a hard hitting pop band with a surf side. And Santa Barbara's Kelp have a more experimental jam side played with a lighthearted spirit. The Paradise Lounge 308 11th St. in San Francisco - (415) 621-1911 Doors: 8PM, Cover $8 The Aquamen Brazil 2001 Pollo Del Mar The Torpedoes Berzerkers Kelp The Sub-Mersians _________________________ Los Angeles Saturday August 2, 8:00 pm sharp LA Chamber Ballet & Joey Altruda's 18 Piece Mambo Orchestra perform "Coctails With Joey - A Ballet Noir for Swingers" We needn't explain to you that this will be a fine moment of semi-high brow entertainment for the Cocktail Nation crowd. Luckman Fine Arts Complex at Cal State LA 5151 State University Drive 213/343-6600 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) new esquivel cd's? Date: 22 Jul 1997 20:57:52 -0400 At 4:49 PM +0200 7/20/97, Johan Dada Vis wrote: >came accross these 2 new Esquivel cd titles : >Infinity In Sound / cd, RCA 478722, ?, 1997 >Exploring New Sounds In Hi-Fi / cd, RCA 478712, ?, 1997 Just a word to the wise - If you live in the U.S., don't bother buying these high priced imports. Why, you ask? Details will be announced soon. that ol' diskteaser, br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: (exotica) Rod McKuen Does It Again! Date: 22 Jul 1997 21:03:36 -0400 Thanks Rod! I'm sitting here enjoying the Laserlight CD reissues of the Russ Meyer soundtracks "Cherry, Harry & Raquel" and "Vixen". The original Bevery Hills Records LP's from '67 and '68, not dubs taken from the movies. And only $5.99 a piece! Bodacious!! Even Martin Boorman will dig 'em. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vik Trola Subject: (exotica) Vik's Newsletter Date: 22 Jul 1997 21:12:29 -0500 Back again with yet another update from Casa Vik's. As some of you may already know, our latest project involves a guava, two African sparrows and a web based chat area. It's in the extreme early phases of testing and Vik's is looking for victims...err...guests to help see if it works. Simply drop by http://www.chaoskitty.com/lounge/ and join the fun. There's not much in the way of help (yet) but it shouldn't take a mixologist to figure out how it works. Vik will be dropping in often to join the party... Over at Radio Vik (http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/radio/radiovik.html)...two, count'em, two new Global Radio broadcasts. First up is the Bethany Lounge helmed by West Virginia's own Jimmy the Z. One show of '50s lounge; one of '60s hipster. Or kick back for both shows. Then, if you've never been to In Hi-Fi at Bar d'O (or want to relive the experience), we've got an hour of swelligant sounds from the Batman and Robin of West NYC lounge. Tag teaming on the wheels of steel...two half hour sets or the whole enchilada. In other web related cocktail driven events... The folks over at Barnes and Noble Online dropped into Vik's to sample Max's summer drink menu and tip Vik to an online chat for Thursday July 24. At 8 pm ET, Anistatia R. Miller and Jared M. Brown, authors of "Shaken Not Stirred," as well as Tom Connor, author of "The Handmade Cigar Collector's Guide and Journal" will be chatting live online at http://www.barnesandnoble.com/live. BarnesandNoble.com will be hosting a "theme party" of sorts with the authors of two separate books. They are devoted to the refined palates of cigar and martini enthusiasts. Come chat about your favorite cigars, exchange martini recipes, and swap stories of exquisite experiences. Check out the Shaken Not Stirred site at http://www.axionet.com/key/, might swank sipping! The latest issue of Yahoo! Internet Life (the one with Conan O'Brien on the cover) mysteriously has a side bar to the O'Brian article listing "late night places" on the web. In addition to the Shaken Not Stirred site above, there's mention of Dr. Bombay's fabulous Rat Pack site (http://www.primenet.com/~drbmbay) and The Oscar Meyer Soup and Sandwich site (http://www.oscar-mayer.com/soup.n.sandwich/) It's just starting but could be something big...check out Tony Caravan's site at http://home.earthlink.net/~tcaravan/THESHOW.html. Looks very promising and Vik hears there will soon be a webcast with King Kini and Robbie Baldock. Finally, for those who think some people take this whole EZ/lounge/cocktail music to seriously...Vik was recently contacted by Rob Sloane,a graduate student at Bowling Green State University, who is currently writing his master's thesis on lounge music. Anyone interested in giving a helping hand with research and such can email him at rsloane@bgnet.bgsu.edu and tell'em Vik sent ya! waking up in the city that never sleeps, Vik Vik's Lounge http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/lounge.html Space Age Bachelor Pad Music http://www.chaoskitty.com/sabpm/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Retro 80's Date: 22 Jul 1997 22:04:00 -0400 (EDT) Can all those good brothers and sisters who think this thread has had its day please raise their martini glasses and say 'amen'? --Lou Oh, OK, that sounds a bit bitchy. Let me put it this way: If Punk was Rock as if Sgt. Pepper never happened, then this Exotica umbrella covers Popular music as if Rock never happened. If I wanted Rock I'd go to the Bomp list. And I'm just not ready yet to look back at the 80s. Give me another 20 years. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: (exotica) Norma Lee from Ipanema, Jeffries Date: 25 Jul 1997 01:04:08 -0400 >There's an interesting bossa nova exploitation album on Wyncote, called >"The Girl from Ipanema" (natch), by Jimmy Davis and Norma Lee. One song >is a carbon copy of "Desafinado", there's a really incongruous Les Baxter >pastiche, of all things, called "Astrud", as well as some pretty swinging >instrumental jazz. TERRIBLE singing, which perversely is the high mark for Girl from Ipanema. >Another favorite is Herb Jeffries (spelled Jefferies here) "Devil is a >Woman" on Golden Tone. Totally awesome. Afro-Cuban wonderland. He did something with Eden Ahbez as well. tony The Wilds Scene: http://www.charm.net/~wilds/ REAL EXOTICA LPs * Sabu Home Page * Tiki Gallery Get the first word on top LPs. Email: wilds@charm.net "I'm just a wild man. You know I'm not a follow-style man." -- Mose Allison # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stefan@subliminal.se (Subliminal Sounds) Subject: (exotica) Martin Denny Video Date: 25 Jul 1997 16:02:00 +0200 (MET DST) Aloha, if anyone out there (Duda are you still around?) have a copy of Martin Denny on the Webley Edwards Hawaii Calls show video and could dupe it for me I would be very happy. Some asshole stole my copy at our Tiki Room party last Wednesday and I really miss it. Please help!!! Mahaolo! Stefan/Subliminal Sounds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stefan@subliminal.se (Subliminal Sounds) Subject: Re: (exotica) In Praise of Budget Labels..... Date: 25 Jul 1997 16:06:57 +0200 (MET DST) >m.ace wrote: >The Surfaris >had a lot of dirty dealing going on around them (or to them). Babes in the >woods. For his part, Delvy has commented, "...but accidently I kept the rights >to 'Wipe Out,' and that particular copyright has been wonderful for me." As far as I know Merrell Fankhauser (of the Impacts, MU etc) finally (last year) got the rights to "Wipe Out" which he wrote. Stefan/Subliminal Sounds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jessica Cameron Subject: Re: (exotica) In Praise of Budget Labels..... Date: 25 Jul 1997 09:34:41 -0400 >>One of my recent favorites is "Brasilian Beat '67" by Los Brasilios >>(Featuring Alberto on marimbas & the Juan Morales Singers) on Design Records. I just got this one on Sunday, sans cover (it came from one of those budget five-record sets and has a silver label instead of the red "Design" label). It IS good! ^_^ > Recently I saw an album of theirs which had an African big game hunting theme >(can't remember the title). Anyone know if this is worth picking up? Ooh, I bet this was SAFARI, with the 101 Strings posing as "The Trans World Symphony Orchestra." I like this one a lot, but it may be too stodgy for other list members. The cover is cool, though. It's basically a study of a safari in stereo (say that ten times fast), with jungle drums, chanting, and strings. There's another Trans World Symph album called "Conquerors through the Ages." It sounds like an old Hercules movie. ^_^ I went through the stacks just now and picked out some other budget classics: Dixieland and Blues: The Rondolette label is SO bizarre. The cover of this album shows three fluffy kittens sleeping in socks hanging on a clothesline. What does that have to do with dixieland??? Pet Ice Cream Presents: Tijuana Today (a George Garabedian production, of course!) These Mark 56 records crack me up. I used to have one for a grocery store that flat out admitted that it was a rip-off in the liner notes. Classic! And I floored my Latin American culture professor with a copy of Colonel Sanders' Tijuana Picnic. ^_- Longines Symphonette: Is this a budget label? It's sort of cheap, but the records are on decent vinyl. I only have two LS albums, Mexicali Brass goes South of the Border, and Enchanted Island (the NOW sounds of Hawaii)--this one is filed under WHAT WHERE THEY THINKING?!? International Award Series: Exotic International Percussion featuring Berlingeri and his Percussive Harpsicord with Orchestra. I dared myself to buy this, and it's actually very, very good. Kind of like Enoch Light's Far Away Places albums, but I like this one better. It's actually percussive, which for Int. Award is very unusual. More Mancini Favorites by Rudolph Statler: I bought this one just to round off a buy at a three for a dollar stand. But it's really good. It has one of the coolest versions of "Peter Gunn" I've ever heard, and great extended version of "A Shot in the Dark." Organ in Hi-Fi on Riviera (by Johnnie Johnson) : A friend gave this me and initially I was like, "thanks for NOTHING!" But this a funny record with a great "Chiapanecas" (that's the Bugs Bunny bullfighting tune for lowbrows like me) with all kinds of kooky sounds used in place of hand-clapping (cuckoo clocks, etc.). There are lots more, but I don't want to take up anymore space! ^_^ Jessica # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clean@tamboo.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Whipped Cream (& cheap imitations in general) Date: 24 Jul 1997 22:16:40 -0600 > >The Exotic Sounds of Martin Denny/Arthur Lyman: "KAPU (Forbidden): The >Exciting Sounds of Milt Raskin" with the Lyman-esque volcano on the front >is a noteworthy example > > KAPU, however is a great li'l record! visit... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ King Kini's C L U B V E L V E T http://www.tamboo.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Nude Wave (re-post) Date: 23 Jul 1997 11:56:28 -0400 It's been almost 24 hours since my first attempt at sending this, and it still hasn't turned up in Exotica. So here we go again. The usual apologies for any doubles that may turn up. > From: kevin king > Subject: (exotica) Re: 80's revival > > Of course, there was, always is i guess, a > sizeable underground of sorts going on (officially 'cool' 80's bands > like Wire, Slits, Throbbing Gristle, Then again, concepts like "officially cool" are part of the problem with the rock mindset. I still haven't managed to completely de-program that sort of thing out of my head. (And no matter how much I used to deny it, there's no getting around it -- even at its most anti-rock, punk is still rock.) It's very prescient of you to mention The Slits, in light of the "Italian Nudie Sax" post. Remember their album, "Cut", with its aggressively de-glamorized approach to the nude cover? It's even somewhat tribal or... exotic. Come to think of it, the music is sort of exotic too, in a very unique way. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: Re: (exotica) Retro 80's Date: 22 Jul 1997 20:56:57 -0500 Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > > Kevin King wrote: > > > Some bands had more edginess and straddled the > >critics' 'punk'/new wave fence, like Blondie, Talking Heads, > >Costello, XTC. A lot of it was self-conscious of fashion and tongue > >in cheek to begin with so it's inclusion in a k-tel 80's comp is > >hardly sacrilege. and I'd be more amused than offended to see them > >do the same with Joy Division, Gang of Four, the Fall.... Pure > >Moods II maybe? > > Well, I guess it all boils down to how seriously we take ourselves? > Right? Not at all. It's a matter of reading the content as well as the trend. There's a paradox in the marketing of punk that was exploited long ago (remember Rock 'n Roll Swindle?... or for more recent self-awareness (that's not such a swindle) try Mekons' Rock 'n Roll) As someone else I think stated, one of the joys of punkhood was to poke fun at loyal Deadheaders or worshippers at the arena rock altar. So you can't miss the irony of aging new-wavers creating an altar of their own, can you? It's a love-hate thang. I respect your sentiments. But though I may tend to express myself with more than the necessary dose of good natured humor (and a little flippancy when it gets late), my comments were made in all seriousness. kevin king xanadu@radix.net http://www.radix.net/~xanadu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: (exotica) "i'm no' dead yet!" Date: 25 Jul 1997 13:36:32 -0500 Lou Smith wrote: > Oh, OK, that sounds a bit bitchy. Let me put it this way: > If Punk was Rock as if Sgt. Pepper never happened, then this Exotica > umbrella covers Popular music as if Rock never happened. If I wanted > Rock I'd go to the Bomp list. well, Lou, it's nice to have your input on the topic anyway... couldn't resist, could ya? and the last word at that - how conveeenient! retro-bitchily, kevin king xanadu@radix.net http://www.radix.net/~xanadu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jessica Cameron Subject: (exotica) In Praise of Budget Labels..... Date: 23 Jul 1997 10:13:54 -0400 Excuse the following rant, but it's a dreary, rainy day here in Pennsylvania, and the list has been pretty slow lately. I was just thinking about budget labels. REAL budget labels, like Crown, Somerset/Alshire, and Pickwick. Crown and Pickwick are weird cases because their overall quality went up and down so much. It always seemed to me that Crown started out really really cheap, got better for a little bit (nicer jackets, colored vinyl), and then got really really cheap again. Pickwick is the real mystery, because it started out so cool (Happy Moog, anyone?) and then got SO cheap. I bought a 70s Pickwick LP that featured "The Rock Version of the Lord's Prayer," (I knew it would be a cover version, but I wanted to hear it anyway) and it was beyond mere thriftiness. They really scraped the bottom of the barrel--cover versions from "Godspell" on one side, traditional religious music on the other. Does anyone know the true story of the label with an identity crisis? ^_- Another thing--does anyone know how certain recordings would bounce around from label to label? I have a semi-cheap percussion album (sort of a pretender to the "Persuasive" throne) on the Kent label. The sleeve is flimsy, but there are full liner notes giving credit to all the studio musicians--so it's a little better than one of those anonymous labels with just ads on the back cover, but it's still pretty cheap. Anyway, some of the tunes on this album turn up on "Dynamic Percussion" on the Modern label. I also have a Modern "Today's Jazz All-Stars" record with two cuts from "Jazz Heat Bongo Beat" retitled. Did Modern just steal them? (too bad they didn't use those cuts on their "bongo" album by "Haji Baba" which I SWEAR didn't have anything more than a snare drum. >:( !!) My favorite budget label is probably Alshire/Somerset, for putting out so many cool Skip Martin records in the 50s, and so many "NOW" sounds in the 60s. Whatta label! ^_^ BTW, did Skip Martin drop off the face of the earth after the early 60s or what? It doesn't seem like he did anything after those LPs for Somerset. Did he die, or go into a new line of work? Anyhoo, in conclusion, I thought it would be neat if we all gabbed about our _all time favorite_ (don't you hate that expression?) budget label records. Thanks for the space, Jessica ^_^ PS--Mine are Scherajazz, TV Jazz Themes, and Jazz Heat Bongo Beat. PPS--Would you consider Strand to be a budget label? I'm not sure. PPPS--Have a nice day! ^_- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) In Defense Of Lou, Hail To Lazlo Date: 25 Jul 1997 15:01:43 -0400 > From: kevin king > Subject: (exotica) "i'm no' dead yet!" > Date: Friday, July 25, 1997 2:36 PM > > Lou Smith wrote: > > > Oh, OK, that sounds a bit bitchy. Let me put it this way: > > If Punk was Rock as if Sgt. Pepper never happened, then this Exotica > > umbrella covers Popular music as if Rock never happened. If I wanted > > Rock I'd go to the Bomp list. > > well, Lou, it's nice to have your input on the topic anyway... > couldn't resist, could ya? and the last word at that - how > conveeenient! > > kevin king In Lou's defense, I noticed in "properties" that he actually sent the message on Tuesday, but due to the same Xmission hiccup that now has duplicates of OUR earlier posts rolling in, his post didn't turn up until Thursday night. Lou: these duplicates floating in are not under our control! Don't panic! Duck and cover is not necessary. I ended my end of the dreaded 8Ts thread on Tuesday ('course it didn't turn up until Wednesday). Just use your delete key. Like I just did. On myself, at that. > Just FYI, everyone got this because the subscriber list > was accidentally zeroed out at xmission and I needed > to resub everyone by hand. > > ::: Lazlo Yeesh! A big hand for Lazlo, everyone! Making believe that "Whistling Jack Smith Goes Disco" never happened, m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: anita_serwacki@newline.com (ANITA SERWACKI) Subject: (exotica) Lalo's New Score Date: 25 Jul 1997 16:30:49 -0400 Well...I've got some good news and I've got some bad news. Good news first: Lalo Schifren completed his first score in only-Cleve-knows how many years for an upcoming New Line picture entitled "Money Talks" Now the bad news: I held my breath till my face turned blue, but alas they cared not...New Line will only be releasing a soundtrack containing licensed tracks - no score. Which means you'll have to sit through 1 1/2 hours of the cinematic stylings of Chris Tucker, Charlie Sheen and Heather Locklear if you wanna hear it... Anita # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrell Brogdon Subject: (exotica) In Praise of Budget Labels Date: 25 Jul 1997 15:42:59 -0500 Speaking of Three Suns imitators...I recently unearthed a TON of old EPs distributed to radio stations by Lang-Worth Feature Programs back in the 1950s. These were designed for use as filler between programs back in the early and mid-1950s. Most of the bands are unknowns, although there are numerous discs by Ray Anthony, Frankie Carle and Henry ("Brazen Brass") Jerome...plus the Joe Sodja Trio featuring Sir Julian Gould (all 13 fingers, I guess) on piano and the Airlane Trio, blatant Three Suns imitators, who turn up on dozens of discs in the series. Haven't gone through them all yet, but there must be a couple of hundred here, with 4 songs per EP. One of the advantages of working at a radio station that never throws ANYTHING away. DARRELL BROGDON # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Hank Levine Date: 25 Jul 1997 10:44:46 +0100 I am having a great deal of difficulty in finding anything out about Hank Levine, who ran an orchestra in the early 60's on the west coast of the USA. He had a reasonable hit with "Image" pts 1&2, then did the string backings for some early Ventures albums, and also cut a single or two himself for the Dolton label. So little is known of him that I wonder if he was actually someone else doing some work under a false name. Any further information will be _most_ appreciated. Thanks, Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Interesting record liners Date: 25 Jul 1997 10:44:44 +0100 Can a learned reader enlighten me on the subject of record liners please? They are a great source of information (e.g. Capitol or Liberty liners of the 60's) but did the earliest LP's (10", 12") start out with them or was this something perhaps demanded by audiophiles? US budget labels tend not to provide them - is this purely a cost issue or were budget records not intended for serious listening i.e. throw them away when they're scratchy. Was there ever a label that provided liners for stereo issues but not for mono? Did any US label ever issue discs in polythene-lined liners? Did any US label use colour coded liners as UK Decca did in the 70's (there was a hole cut in the sleeve and if the liner colour you could see was pink, then the record was stereo, or mono if it was blue). Thanks, Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david.trezza@etak.com (David Trezza) Subject: (exotica) Mel Henke Date: 25 Jul 1997 15:07:51 -0700 (PDT) ...So I finally got a chance to check out Jack Diamond's show yesterday since I work close enough to pick it up. Although it wasn't in his standard "House of Games" format, his signature is everywhere on the playlist. First cut I hear is something by Mel Henke off La Dolce Henke(???). It had a female throwing in some choice commentary over some real upbeat tune-age. I'm unfamiliar with Henke, what type of records did he put out in his time? Or is it still his time? Thanks Dago On the turntable: Baxter's "Teen Drums" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) In praise of Lazlo Date: 25 Jul 1997 22:40:37 -0400 (EDT) To Lazlo Shizfrin--- That Thing You Do?---Its good to me -- Mistakes? You've made a few. But then again, too few to mention -- hope you plan to be Doin' It To Death--thankyoufalettinmebemicelf....Jimmy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Mel Henke Date: 26 Jul 1997 00:24:00 -0400 At 3:07 PM -0700 7/25/97, David Trezza wrote: >First cut I hear is something by Mel Henke off La Dolce Henke(???). >It had a female throwing in some choice commentary over some real >upbeat tune-age. I'm unfamiliar with Henke, what type of records >did he put out in his time? Or is it still his time? He's gone, but his time has come again. Scamp's reissue of "La Dolce Henke" (with bonus tracks from his other Warner Bros album "Dimensions In Sound") will be out this coming Tuesday - July 29. The liner notes by yers trly will fill you in on the complete Henke biography. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jjones@richnet.net (John Jones) Subject: (exotica) re: Budget Labels Date: 26 Jul 1997 12:29:43 GMT Thinking about Pickwick: I am assuming that this is the one and same label that Lou Reed worked for in the early sixties....popping off dance craze tunes. Working for Pickwick, he met John Cale and then they......oh, never mind....;). John -- No one will ever know exactly why or how, but by the year 2050, everyone born in Baltimore will look=20 exactly like Ernest Borgnine. Drew Friedman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jjones@richnet.net (John Jones) Subject: (exotica) Br. Cleve.....Stop Teasin'! Date: 26 Jul 1997 12:35:21 GMT Come on Br. Cleve....tell us about these plans for Esquivel.....don't make me go out and buy an original LP for 35 bucks......If you don't tell us, ...I'll....I'll....I'll...start a virus hoax here...! ;) ! Sorry for just bein' a postal worker!....:) John -- No one will ever know exactly why or how, but by the year 2050, everyone born in Baltimore will look=20 exactly like Ernest Borgnine. Drew Friedman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Hello Out There Date: 26 Jul 1997 10:17:04 -0400 (EDT) Sorry to be so cryptic...but there was a gentleman on the list, an optomoligst I believe, who sent me a private message regarding about Martin Denny...I have the info you need, please e mail me directly (I have lost your e mail address!) BTW I just saw my optomist today and he told me everything's going to be great. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: breithel@lund.mail.telia.com (Ingemar Breithel) Subject: (exotica) Recycled Sergio, deflated Wanda Date: 26 Jul 1997 17:24:44 +0100 Some record companies used their budget labels to revamp their own products and impose them on unsuspecting customers. This is the case with Sergio Mendes' "In the Brazilian Bag", on Capitol's budget label Tower. It is in fact, although it doesn't say so of course, a straight re-release of a Capitol album by Brazilian singer Wanda de Sah, accompanied by the Sergio Mendes trio, called "Brasil '65". They just changed the title, credited it to Sergio Mendes only, did a new cover without Wanda de Sah's picture, and made some subtle changes to the liner notes. On the original album it says about the singer: "Today her admiring friends are numbered in the millions". On the re-release this has been altered to "Today her admiring friends are numbered in the THOUSANDS". Poor Wanda. Ingemar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Cheap Imitations (racing division) Date: 26 Jul 1997 12:41:35 -0400 I don't know if this is exactly what you had in mind, but... Years ago I had an album by a generic TJB type band whose name had "Baja" in it (sorry for the vagueness, but we're going back to childhood here). The album was called "The Sounds Of Baja" or something like that, and had a cover photo of Baja 1000 desert racers (Hey! It's a "desert peninsula disc"!) The music was mixed together with audio verite of the desert racers -- lots of unmuffled, race-tuned vee-dub motors blatting away from speaker to speaker. Has anyone ever run across this? They were probably inspired by the early 60's release, "The Sounds Of Sebring", which featured recordings of road racers at Sebring. It might have been on Riverside. I think that one was a hard-core motorhead disc that didn't bother with music, but I don't know, only having read references to it in the racing mags. Yet another album crying out for CD reissue. And supposedly, Peter Ustinov did a parody album of "Sounds Of Sebring", in which he provided the car noises vocally. Title? Beats me. If anyone knows about these albums, please illuminate further! Thanks. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark A. Rosati" Subject: Re: (exotica) Cheap Imitations (racing division) Date: 26 Jul 1997 13:14:03 -0400 m.ace wrote: > I don't know if this is exactly what you had in mind, but... > > Years ago I had an album by a generic TJB type band whose name had > "Baja" in it > (sorry for the vagueness, but we're going back to childhood here). The > album > was called "The Sounds Of Baja" or something like that, and had a > cover photo > of Baja 1000 desert racers (Hey! It's a "desert peninsula disc"!) The > music was > mixed together with audio verite of the desert racers -- lots of > unmuffled, > race-tuned vee-dub motors blatting away from speaker to speaker. Has > anyone > ever run across this? Could this be them? I know I have some records by The Baja Marimba Band, somewhere. (I think they were on A&M) Although, I don't recall that one in particular. (...my chilhood also...) The album I remember they were dressed up as banditos with fake moustaches all gathered around a marimba. Sounds like it could be them though.... yes?.....no? I think those are ones that I originally stole from my parents, along with most of thier TJB's. Who said all parents are square? Mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David J. Strauss" Subject: (exotica) Ethel Azama Date: 26 Jul 1997 16:58:23 -0400 (EDT) I lucked into a copy of Ethel Azama's Exotic Dreams, prod (and then some) by Martin Denny, and I was wondering if anyone could fill me in on her history. The LP certainly seems ripe for reissue and, as it's on Liberty, I imagine it wouldn't be that difficult. DS djs2852@is.nyu.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David J. Strauss" Subject: (exotica) Ethel Azama Date: 26 Jul 1997 16:58:23 -0400 (EDT) I lucked into a copy of Ethel Azama's Exotic Dreams, prod (and then some) by Martin Denny, and I was wondering if anyone could fill me in on her history. The LP certainly seems ripe for reissue and, as it's on Liberty, I imagine it wouldn't be that difficult. DS djs2852@is.nyu.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Yost" Subject: (exotica) Recycled Sergio Date: 26 Jul 1997 16:42:21 PDT Ingemar Breithel recently wrote: Some record companies used their budget labels to revamp their own products and impose them on unsuspecting customers. This is the case with Sergio Mendes' "In the Brazilian Bag", on Capitol's budget label Tower. It is in fact, although it doesn't say so of course, a straight re-release of a Capitol album by Brazilian singer Wanda de Sah, accompanied by the Sergio Mendes trio, called "Brasil '65". They just changed the title, credited it to Sergio Mendes only, did a new cover without Wanda de Sah's picture. (snip) I was interested to learn this, as I had always just thought the Sergio LP on Tower was one of his better efforts, certainly better than any of his A&M releases. But adding yet another layer to the recycling geneology, I recently saw the *Pickwick* reissue of the Sergio release from Tower (making it at least the 3rd incarnation). Pickwick trimmed it from 12 songs to 10, changed the name of one song, kept the cover from Tower but added a psychedelic multicolored backdrop to it, and changed the title of the LP to "So Nice." By that time Wanda's admirers probably only numbered in the hundreds (poor Wanda indeed). -- Brad Yost # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TothMD@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Lou Reed/Pickwick (Was: re: Budget Labels) Date: 26 Jul 1997 19:31:32 -0400 (EDT) jjones@richnet.net (John Jones) wrote: >Thinking about Pickwick: > >I am assuming that this is the one and same label that Lou Reed worked >for in the early sixties....popping off dance craze tunes. Working >for Pickwick, he met John Cale and then they......oh, never >mind....;). WHAAAAAAt? You're telling me Lou Reed was cranking out Twist and Hully Gully fodder for Pickwick in the early 60s? THAT is one juicy piece of useless information! Oooh, do tell more! Any ideas what albums he worked on? (BTW, to anyone trying to reach me over e-mail over the next few days, I'll be in somewhat of an e-mail blackout state until 7/30/97 or so as I'm moving! ARGH! I'd guess most people on this list are collector types like me with WAY too much junk and are equally horrified by the moving concept, even if it is "local." Just moving to a bigger apartment...) Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com TothMD@aol.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Cheap Imitations (racing division) Date: 26 Jul 1997 20:01:21 -0400 > From: Mark A. Rosati > Subject: Re: (exotica) Cheap Imitations (racing division) > > I know I have some records by The Baja Marimba Band, somewhere. (I think > they were on A&M) Although, I don't recall that one in particular. > (...my chilhood also...) The album I remember they were dressed up as > banditos with fake moustaches all gathered around a marimba. Sounds like > it could be them though.... yes?.....no? Hmmm. Maybe, maybe not. I thought of them too, but I'm just not sure. It also could have been Baja Rhythm Band or something like that. Given the nature of the project, it's possible that there was no "real" band. Maybe the music wasn't even recorded especially for the project. With a scenario like -- the producers paid for the rights to some previously recorded quasi-TJB music and then mixed it up with the desert buggy recordings. And made up a name to slap on the cover. Or not. Just theorizin'... m.ace ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Lou Reed/Pickwick Date: 26 Jul 1997 22:18:30 -0400 (EDT) Lou did at the least write "I've Got a Tiger in My Tank" and "Cycle Annie "for a cheapo production called "Soundsville!" on Pickwick. The former tune shows up on the incredible compilation "Only In America". I assume he also played and sang on them, but the vocal sounds nothing like Lou. I'm sure someone else can fill in the details. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?