From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #1039 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Tuesday, September 4 2001 Volume 02 : Number 1039 In This Digest: (exotica) [obits] Don Ricardo, Graeme "Shirley" Strachan, Ted Mulry (exotica) [obits] John Chambers, Troy Donahue, Pauline Kael Re: (exotica) Beating a Japanese collector horse/deja vu Re: (exotica) scores this Weekend Re: (exotica) Now Sound (exotica) FRIENDLY PERSUASION - Week of 09/03/01 (exotica) Re: The Now Sound Re: (exotica) racism shmacism Re: (exotica) scores this Weekend RE: (exotica) racism shmacism RE: (exotica) Good/Bad Sells/Doesn't Sell (exotica) Johnny Keating / Norrie Paramor finds Re: (exotica) Beating a Japanese collector horse/deja vu (exotica) I'm not Bored of Canada (exotica) Re: Petty Booka RE: (exotica) Good/Bad Sells/Doesn't Sell Re: (exotica) I'm not Bored of Canada Re: (exotica) Johnny Keating / Norrie Paramor finds RE: (exotica) Johnny Keating / Norrie Paramor finds (exotica) Weird shockwaves and the tourettes synthesiser Re: (exotica) scores this Weekend (exotica) Kahimi Karie (was RE: Claudine & Out of Sight) RE: (exotica) Kahimi Karie (was RE: Claudine & Out of Sight) Re: (exotica) Johnny Keating / Norrie Paramor finds RE: (exotica) Johnny Keating / Norrie Paramor finds ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 20:10:03 -0400 From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obits] Don Ricardo, Graeme "Shirley" Strachan, Ted Mulry August 27, 2001 -- L.A. Times OBITUARIES Don Ricardo; Big Band Leader, Antique Car Buff By MYRNA OLIVER, TIMES STAFF WRITER He loved music and he loved cars. He used one to get the other. Don Ricardo, leader of big bands including the NBC Orchestra in the 1930s and an award-winning collector, restorer and racer of antique automobiles, has died. He was 92. Ricardo died Aug. 15 in a Pasadena convalescent home, where he had lived for more than a year, said family friend Jim Riddick of Martinez, Calif. Even in his late 80s, Ricardo and his stable of vintage Mercedes-Benzes and other treasures were familiar sights at the Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance and at shows in such venues as Pasadena's Ritz-Carlton Hotel and Fullerton's Muckenthaler Cultural Center. He frequently staged his own shows for charity at the Pasadena estate he liked to call "a 14-car garage with a house attached." And in his younger days--until at least age 60--Ricardo was seen behind the wheel of his impeccably detailed cars, which he kept running with the precision of a Swiss watch, at such races as Bonneville and the Pomona Winternationals, setting several records for touring cars. Ricardo played drums and the violin from age 7 and started his first band in 1927. Don Ricardo and the Californians, with their Latin rhythms and big band dance tunes, found steady work at Los Angeles' Biltmore Hotel and in Lake Tahoe showrooms. With the band's growing reputation, NBC Radio soon came calling and in 1937 put it on the air as the NBC Orchestra. Ricardo continued providing music for the network's radio shows for a dozen years. Ricardo worked in his teens as a printer's apprentice. Even then, every spare cent went into building a machine shop, at that time for customizing Model Ts. Ricardo took on a somewhat different engineering project during World War II. Signing on to use his automotive machinist skills as a tool-and-die maker, he was assigned to a special project at Caltech. He headed a team of 50 workmen developing parts for a new "anti-personnel bomb" and did not learn until war's end that he had been working on the Manhattan Project to build the atom bomb. Returning full time to making music after the war, Ricardo increased his fortunes and elevated his taste in the rare autos he was able to collect, priding himself on Mercedes-Benzes and gull-wings of any make. Over the years, his treasures--once valued at $20 million--included a 1911 Benz Victoria Touring Car, a 1923 Targa Florio 28/95, a 1927 K model sports roadster built originally for Rudolph Valentino, a 1928 Mercedes-Benz supercharged SSK, two 1955 Mercedes-Benz 300SL gull-wings, a 1938 Horch convertible coupe, a Lynx D-type replica, and DeLorean and Bricklin gull-wings. In 1960, Ricardo attracted headlines by purchasing the 1935 Mercedes-Benz roadster custom-built for Nazi Gestapo chief Heinrich Himmler. Ricardo got the 3-ton car from a U.S. Army major who had bought it in 1957 from Himmler's estate. Hidden by Himmler's family in a basement after World War II, the one-of-a-kind car was in good condition, Ricardo said, with one important change: The holes drilled in the rear seats for machine-gun mounts had been filled. "The car was used mostly for show by Himmler," Ricardo told The Times. "It's a rather odd feeling to be driving the car that carried Himmler and other Nazi bosses in parades and other ceremonies." Ricardo had no illusions about the economy of his collector's items, noting of the Himmler car: "I get 10 miles to the gallon if I'm careful." Even without its treasures, Ricardo's garage would be the envy of car buffs. Ed Hellwig wrote in a column for the automotive Web site edmunds.com a decade ago that it was "the mother of garages, an inspiration to men throughout the nation . . . a place to pay homage to the automobile." Hand tools and memorabilia, including posters from long-ago races and car shows, were mounted on the finished walls. Workbenches lined the perimeter of the garage, and hose reels ready to dispense air and water were suspended from the ceiling. Within its confines, the dream garage also contained a complete machine shop where Ricardo could make from aluminum stock any illusive parts he was unable to buy. "I've loved cars all my life," the then-octogenarian told Hellwig, "and what's in this garage is my life. Sometimes, when I can't sleep at night, I'll come down here and sit in the gull-wing and relive the memories all over again." - ------------------- Police have confirmed the former lead singer of seventies pop group, Skyhooks, has died in a helicopter crash north-west of Brisbane. Channel Nine presenter Graeme "Shirley" Strachan was killed this afternoon, when the helicopter he was flying crashed during a training flight, on Mount Archer, near Kilcoy. Redcliffe Police Sergeant Frank Sparreboom says the 49-year-old entertainer was reported missing by his training school. Police say Mr Strachan's body will not be retrieved until tomorrow morning because of the remoteness of the crash site. - ---------- Aussie music icon loses battle with cancer Another legend of the Australian 1970s music industry, Ted Mulry, has died after a battle with cancer. He was the frontman for the Ted Mulry Gang but was also a respected songwriter, penning hits for John Farnham, John Paul Young, Sherbet and Roxy Music. The Ted Mulry Gang was best known for the number one hit "Jump In My Car". Music Commentator and friend Glen A Baker was a compere at the Ted Mulry Benefit concerts earlier this year. "One of the things I feel really good about now is that he had a chance to see them while he was still with us," he said. "Just what people thought of him, the regard in which he was held by his peers and that was a very considerable regard indeed." Ted Mulry would have turned 53 tomorrow. His death follows that of Graeme "Shirley" Strachan, the former lead singer of The Skyhooks. - -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 20:13:06 -0400 From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obits] John Chambers, Troy Donahue, Pauline Kael LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Oscar-winning makeup pioneer John Chambers, who did everything from put the pointy ears on ``Star Trek's'' Mr. Spock to turn actors into simians for the original ``Planet of the Apes,'' has died of diabetes complications. He was 78. Chambers died Aug. 25 at the Motion Picture and Television Fund retirement home in Woodland Hills. During his 30-year career, Chambers worked on numerous movies and television shows, including TV's ``The Outer Limits,'' ``The Munsters,'' ``Lost in Space'' and ``Mission Impossible.'' His film credits included ``The List of Adrian Messenger'' and ``The Island of Dr. Moreau.'' Most of the time he worked out of a lab in his Burbank garage, and it wasn't unusual for his neighbors to see stars like Leonard Nimoy, Lana Turner, Marlon Brando and Mickey Rooney drop in for special makeup sessions. When he worked on ``Planet of the Apes'' in the 1960s, Chambers recalled in a recent interview how he spent hours at the Los Angeles Zoo doing research. ``It was the best way I could think of for capturing the elastic facial expressions of the apes,'' he said. His preparation led him to develop a new type of foam rubber that was easier to work with than the material commonly used at the time. He also created facial appliances that could be attached to actors' faces to form primate features. For his efforts he became only the second makeup artist to receive an honorary Academy Award. A competitive category for makeup was established in the 1980s. Chambers also developed a new technique for making ``bald caps'' for actors. His invention, made from liquid plastic sprayed onto a metal form of an actor's head, remains the industry standard. He is survived by his wife, Joan. - ------------- Sunday, September 2 1:45 PM ET Actor Troy Donahue Dies at 65 LOS ANGELES (AP) - Actor Troy Donahue, a blonde-haired, blue-eyed teen movie heartthrob of the 1950s and '60s, died Sunday. He was 65. Donahue died at St. John's Hospital and Medical Center in Santa Monica after suffering a heart attack on Thursday, said family friend Bob Palmer. The actor played Sandra Dee's young lover in 1959's ``A Summer Place'' a role that made him a teen matinee star. - ------ MSNBC reports the death of the esteemed film critic, Pauline Kael. - --------- CAMBRIDGE, Ohio (AP)_ A man was sentenced to listen to four hours of polka king Frankie Yankovic's greatest hits for driving through the city with his windows rolled down and his truck's stereo blaring. Municipal Judge John Nicholson found Alan Law guilty of disorderly conduct and ordered him to pay a $100 fine or listen to polka tunes. Law chose to face the music. Nicholson picked Yankovic's music because he thought the 19-year-old Law would not be a fan of the Cleveland polka legend, who died in 1998. Law listened to the full four hours of Yankovic's hits, which included Blue Skirt Waltz, Who Stole the Kishka and Too Fat Polka, in a police station interview room Thursday. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 21:36:01 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Beating a Japanese collector horse/deja vu At 06:53 PM 9/3/01 EDT, Dj45rpm@aol.com wrote: > >With all due respect, didn't we already beat this particular "Japanese >collector/racism" thread into the ground a few months ago? Sorry but when a list is this slow, I feel like a well-beaten thread, even a dead one, is better than nothing. And in the future, there's no need to give respect, whether due or not. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 21:40:44 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) scores this Weekend At 07:28 PM 9/3/01 -0500, Clayton Black wrote: > >12. Gary McFarland, THE IN SOUND--I had a mono copy of this that I bought >off of e-bay (supposedly near mint but not), but this one's stereo and in a >condition that's just as good. Couldn't let it pass. I'm drooling over this one. Tell me about it please. I knew he must have other records besides the ones I have but damn, "the in sound"!!!! Is it really the IN Sound? What's it sound like? Does it have that ba-ba-ba singing like he does on "She loves you"? I must know. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 22:02:29 -0400 From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Now Sound At 01:56 AM 09/02/2001, Roy wrote: >The acid test I use for a song being Now Sound, is if >you close your eyes while your listening to it and you >think you might be listening to sound-track music from >the television show Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In then your >listening to The Now Sound. Yes, that's exactly how I see it. Would it fit in the Laugh-In party segment? If yes, it's Now Sound. - --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 20:00:47 -0700 From: "Otis Fodder" Subject: (exotica) FRIENDLY PERSUASION - Week of 09/03/01 - ------------------------------------------------------------------ !#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&* - ------------------------------------------------------------------ THE FRIENDLY PERSUASION SHOW Playlist for Week of 09/03/01 Cool and Strange Music Magazine's weekly radio show on Antenna Internet Radio. Go directly to the show page here, http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm Hit the personal show pages here, http://www.thebranflakes.com/fp - ------------------------------------------------------------------ !#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&* - ------------------------------------------------------------------ THIS WEEK IS GUEST HOSTED BY: DJ PANTSHEAD AND THE EVOLUTION CONTROL COMMITTEE! http://www.evolution-control.com ecc@evolution-control.com THE PLAYLIST: DJ Pantshead and The ECC - Intro Sesam Strasse - Mah Na Mah Na Mae West - Criswell Predicts Jam Productions - Drums and Call Letters De MiniStars - Amadeus March Into 1985 Demo LP - Obsession 600 Second Miracle Promo Record Excerpt DJ Pantshead of The ECC - Untitled Scratchabilly Pat and Darrell - Sleeper Cab Home Peter Marks - C.B. Okie from Muskogee Switched On Nashville - Folsom Prison Blues Claro Music Corporation - Mister X Sings DJ Pantshead of The ECC - Swingle Bombers Rev. John Rydgren - Hippie Version Of Creation The Weird Love Makers - Boy Scout In The Everglades Richard Hayman - Hare Krishna Mel Blanc - Money Ken Nordine - Electro-Voice Series D Organ Demonstration Intro The Three Suns - When Yuba Plays the Rhumba on the Tuba Westinghouse - He Got No Westinghouse Franchise The Billy Nayer Show - Fickey Exploring Music Vol. 8 - Your Voice Is You Rev. John Rydgren - Search It Out DJ Pantshead of The ECC - Surfin' Bass Roger Price - An Expose of Hi Fidelity (excerpt) V V M - Take My Beef Away Bruce Haack and Esther Nelson - Soul Transportation The History of Unheard Music - Even The Ugliest Thing - ------------------------------------------------------------------ !#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&*!#$%&* - ------------------------------------------------------------------ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 22:25:43 -0400 From: "Brian" Subject: (exotica) Re: The Now Sound Alan wrote: > Anyway if I had to make a list of the best and most quintessential Now > Sound, I'd start with those two Les and Larry records (though the first > one is by far the better) and to that list I'd add the one I mentioned before: > Si Zentner's "Right here right now" and this one by John Keating - here > identified as the Johnny Keating Sound - called "Here's where it is". > If I had to round it off to a top five, I'd have to choose between "Billy > May Today!" and Les Brown "The Young Beat!". Well that makes 5 records I haven't heard, and since I haven't heard them, I don't know if our definitions (or associations) are the same or indeed how they overlap. Of course this forces me to pick out favourites myself which isn't that easy. I'm realizing that a lot of the things I do like are no more than instrumental versions of pop/rock songs so I'm not sure that these would qualify. Alan mentions horns as an essential component and I'd probably agree.. but organs can also do the job as can the right guitar sound. Then there's what qualifies from the three powerhouse countries of Italy, France and Germany? I'm thinking this as I just found a record this week I've been wanting a long time. Well I haven't been looking for it so much as I knew there was a Werner Muller record or records out there that had the two tracks I've heard on more than one 5 star compilation (Sex machine & Bodybuilding). Well it exists and its called "The Strip Goes On". To me it's totally now sound, with the requisite "versions" of known rock songs (Satisfaction, The Beat Goes On, etc). Anyway, its too bad this discussion stopped so quick as I still feel a need to discuss the subject further. I for one promise not to get into any verbal nastiness with Alan! Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 00:24:29 -0700 From: crymad Subject: Re: (exotica) racism shmacism alan zweig wrote: > > At 03:04 PM 9/3/01 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote: > > > .>But I do think it's very easy to use race or profession to conceptualise a > >group of people who have priced records out of your range and who, in fact, > >you might be feeling envious of. Japanese/DJs/Japanese DJs rather than a > >worldwide interest that, by the rules of supply and demand, has caused the > >price of said records to rise. > > The thing that bothers me about my detractors here is the idea that any > generalization concerning the habits of a nation's citizens is inherently > racist. That's a very low bar to set. For what it's worth...my wife is native Japanese, I've lived in Japan about 8 years, I think of Japan as my second home...and I have absolutely no problem with your generalization. - --crymad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 00:33:19 -0700 From: crymad Subject: Re: (exotica) scores this Weekend Clayton Black wrote: > > > 3. Tony Mottola, HEART & SOUL GUITAR, Project 3. Mellow, but nice. Dick > Hyman has some good backup moments on this one. > 4. Tony Mottola, LUSH, LATIN & LOVELY, Project 3. I had a copy of this > already, but this one was cleaner. Good bossa nova (although not coveted by > the Japanese apparently)--nice version of A Man and a Woman. These two on 8 track should be arriving in my mail this week. Traded a couple Indian film soundtrack carts for them. Anyone else on this list dabble in 8 track? I feel the endless loop format is very well suited for mood music. - --cm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 09:50:56 +0100 From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) racism shmacism > The thing that bothers me about my detractors here is the idea that any > generalization concerning the habits of a nation's citizens is inherently > racist. That's a very low bar to set. You're missing the point. I'm not accusing you of being a racist per se, just that in this case you are wrong. The price is not the fault of the Japanese, it is the fault of all those who want Brazilian records and will pay for them. It's just easy for you to blame a racial group (in this case). Happy days. Charlie Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peters Street, London, N1 8JD Tel: +44 (0)20 7704 3313 Fax: +44 (0)20 7226 8586 ISDN: +44 (0)20 7359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 10:02:26 +0100 From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: RE: (exotica) Good/Bad Sells/Doesn't Sell I was responding to the term in Steves post. As a comparison, I was reading an article on the motivation for writers who write 'Literature' rather than mere authors. It argued that writers of literature are writing for their peers and for literary critics. It seems to have a grain of truth, and I think it's a valid analogy. The purpose of serious music is to impress your peers and gather good reviews from serious critics. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@netscape.net grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk wrote: > > > And I think that your generalisation is way off the mark anyway. Theres > > popular music and serious music. > > What purpose is "serious music" being made for? Just curious. > > KK > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:51:00 +0100 From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Johnny Keating / Norrie Paramor finds Went for my annual visit to Eastbourne yesterday, which included a lovely 3 hour wait stuck in a country lane after being detoured from a nasty road smash. But I managed to get to the Charity shops and found: Norrie Paramor - 'Law Beat' 1974. Contour. I would associate Norrie with the 50's and 60's due to his Cliff and the Shadows connections, so it was a bit of a surprise to see this. But really apart from the material and a little production gloss it could be from any time. Mostly strings and not much beat. The material is what you would expect from a 70's UK TV themes LP. 'Eye Level', 'Softly softly', 'Macmillan and Wife', 'Banacek' etc. But there are some goodies, It'd be hard not to do 'Ironside' service, 'Hawaii 5-0' is pretty straight and therefore pretty good. And the version of Z-Cars is great. No Harmonica. Nice beat. Nice brass. Overall its not as good as an LP called Law Beat should be, but its worth having for the last few tracks on side 2. Johnny Keating with Orchestra and Singers - Temptation 1962 Decca Phase 4 PFS4020 I've thought of JK as a Studio 2 man rather than a Phase 4 man, but there you go. To be honest I wasn't expecting that much from this, It had a nice red Phase 4 sleeve with a red headed girl on it, but its great. Big Band Swinging Jazz, Bongo's, Theremin on 'Laura'. I could do without the singers, but they have their moments. The title track could almost be classic Exotica, it doesn't have the bird calls, but it really has that feel, lush with upfront nicely reverbed bongo's and a slightly eastern feel to the melody. Probably the standout track for me. Other tracks, 'Blues in the night' was pretty good, as was 'Maria' not the material I would have expected to have heard done this way, but sometimes it works sometimes it didn't. A very nice production, very filmic. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@netscape.net grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 11:27:31 From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) Beating a Japanese collector horse/deja vu I just want to know when did djs become a race? what are their ethnic traits? a permanent Ibiza tan perhaps, allied to a cocaine addiction giving them wrinkled wax like skin and a creepy interest in underage girls despite looking like wizened old hags lurking round the record shops deliberately paying over the odds with their filthy promoter/criminal underworld/18 yr old kids out for a big night cash just to piss the rest of us off. rob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 11:51:49 +0000 From: thinkmatic@att.net Subject: (exotica) I'm not Bored of Canada <> My musical output is limited and only shared with a small circle. I'm not to blame for this one. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 05:11:54 -0700 From: "Wayno" Subject: (exotica) Re: Petty Booka M. Ace asked: Has anyone actually heard these ladies? http://www.sister.co.jp/pettybooka/e-pb.html ******************* P&B are goofy as hell, and incredibly endearing. Mail order service from Sister/Benten is excellent. - -- Wayno # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 12:19:51 From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: RE: (exotica) Good/Bad Sells/Doesn't Sell >I was responding to the term in Steves post. >As a comparison, I was reading an article on the motivation for writers who >write 'Literature' rather than mere authors. It argued that writers of >literature are writing for their peers and for literary critics. It seems Or if you're Fay Weldon, as a vehicle for product placement for Bulgari. Damn Brits destroying art again with their pesky advertising. Oh FW's a New Zealander. And Bulgari are Italian. I knew it was those Yurps anyway with their Eurofaggot hairstyles and stuckinthemud non gogetit lifestyles >to have a grain of truth, and I think it's a valid analogy. >The purpose of serious music is to impress your peers and gather good >reviews from serious critics. Plus you get paid to write it! and can make lots of money selling very, very few records while in popular music you can sell lots, and indeed, lots of records and earn very, very, very little money. Up with good music! Down with bad! rob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 09:22:26 -0400 From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) I'm not Bored of Canada For those who haven't figured it out yet (this being one of the very few things I learned in jr. high school science) "roygbiv" is the mnemonic used to remember the colours of the spectrum (red-orange-yellow-green-blue-indigo-violet) cheryl > > < called "roygbiv". > Is that Roy G. Biv?>> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 09:31:05 -0500 From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) Johnny Keating / Norrie Paramor finds > Johnny Keating with Orchestra and Singers - Temptation 1962 Decca Phase 4 > PFS4020 > I've thought of JK as a Studio 2 man rather than a Phase 4 man, but there > you go. To be honest I wasn't expecting that much from this, It had a nice > red Phase 4 sleeve with a red headed girl on it, but its great. Big Band > Swinging Jazz, Bongo's, Theremin on 'Laura'. I could do without the > singers, but they have their moments. The title track could almost be > classic Exotica, it doesn't have the bird calls, but it really has that > feel, lush with upfront nicely reverbed bongo's and a slightly eastern feel > to the melody. Probably the standout track for me. Other tracks, 'Blues > in the night' was pretty good, as was 'Maria' not the material I would have > expected to have heard done this way, but sometimes it works sometimes it > didn't. A very nice production, very filmic. One of my favorite Phase 4 albums (though still not up to Hawaiian Swing or Exotic Percussion). I had forgotten about the theremin on "Laura," which is a great tune anyway. As for the singers, I rather like them, especially on Love for Sale. I've got about four of JK's Phase 4 albums (in fact I don't have any other kind of his--I need to get to the UK I guess). This is the best in my opinion. Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 14:44:41 +0100 From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: RE: (exotica) Johnny Keating / Norrie Paramor finds Clayton, To be honest, I'd base a trip to the UK on more than a desire to track = down John Keating LP's. I've been disappointed by most of his that I've = heard. The first Space one on Studio 2 is OK, but not spectacular, and not = worth the =A315 pounds it usually goes for. I've had a couple of others and = they've gone back to the charity shops on my next visit. I did say that the singers had their moments, isn't 'Love for sale' = the track where theres a singer with a part that sounds like a bass = clarinet on an early Command LP. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@netscape.net grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > > Johnny Keating with Orchestra and Singers - Temptation 1962 Decca = Phase > 4 > > PFS4020 > > I've thought of JK as a Studio 2 man rather than a Phase 4 man, = but > there > > you go. =20 > One of my favorite Phase 4 albums (though still not up to Hawaiian = Swing > or > Exotic Percussion). I had forgotten about the theremin on "Laura," = which > is > a great tune anyway. As for the singers, I rather like them, = especially > on > Love for Sale. I've got about four of JK's Phase 4 albums (in fact I > don't > have any other kind of his--I need to get to the UK I guess). This = is the > best in my opinion. > Clayton >=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 13:56:51 From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: (exotica) Weird shockwaves and the tourettes synthesiser try the musical swearing at http://www.gimpchimp.com/swf/turretaphone1.0a.swf while you're at it get a musical version of the really scary steve ballmer motivational movie... http://homepage.mac.com/jcarusone/iMovieTheater2.html or why not just go to www.b3ta.com where those videos come from?? the amount of traffic a rather small number of (lets face it) indifferent flash programmers generate is enormous. i love it. the bunny obsession has nothing to do with the kid's song. it was simply a response animation to a couple of others featuring bunnies. rob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 10:06:23 -0500 From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) scores this Weekend Alan, Because my computer's at my office and not home (where my records are), there is a slight possibility that I've got the title off a bit, but I'm 99% certain that that's it. My only hesitation comes from hearing that you haven't heard of it (as in, "can it be? Have I got the name wrong?"). I assumed this was a staple of your collection. This is the album with his (somewhat?) famous EZ version of (I can't get no) Satisfaction, which is full of his ba-ba-ba singing. I'm not sure I'd say this album is as good as Soft Samba, but it does have plenty of that trademark sound and is loads better than Scorpio and Other Signs (although "Beware-Take Care" is one of my favorites). Bloop, Bleep sounds a lot better in stereo than mono, and his take on I Concentrate on You is a classic. There are a couple of his own compositions that, to my mind, are the best things on the album, but I can't remember what they're called (sorry). I don't have the equipment to burn CDs, but I'll be happy to make you a tape, inadequate as that may be. As to whether it's "In Sound," I don't want to speculate. To me, Gary McFarland's always "In," and this album is very much His sound. Clayton >>12. Gary McFarland, THE IN SOUND > I'm drooling over this one. Tell me about it please. I knew he must have > other records besides the ones I have but damn, "the in sound"!!!! Is it >really the IN Sound? What's it sound like? Does it have that ba-ba-ba >singing like he does on "She loves you"? I must know. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 10:26:29 +0100 From: pm.carey@utoronto.ca (PMC) Subject: (exotica) Kahimi Karie (was RE: Claudine & Out of Sight) * Ben Waugh >Thanks for the pun and the info. Don't know >no Kahime Karie. Am I missing out? Um ... yeah ... Kahimi rocks! ;-) Check out her "S/T" comp on Minty Fresh for an intro. Tracks produced by Katerine & Momus. Jorge Ben & Gainsbourg covers. If you like that, buy all her Japanese albums! ;-) - -Patrick # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 15:41:33 +0100 From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: RE: (exotica) Kahimi Karie (was RE: Claudine & Out of Sight) You can tell how many listers have gone over to Spectropop can't you, I'm sure Jill Mingo-go or someone would have picked right up on this a couple of years back. Or are we just as faddy as those pop people. Check out the archives for big J-Pop discussions, (Rob, wheres my tape, I have an email a year old telling me you'd done it!), Kahimi Karie, Cornelius, Fantastic Plastic Machine, Pizzicato 5, Takako Minekawa are some of the more obvious names. But a whole creative thing going on over there. At least that means that they've been putting those expensive LP's to good use. The Scamps. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@netscape.net grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > * Ben Waugh > >Thanks for the pun and the info. Don't know > >no Kahime Karie. Am I missing out? > > Um ... yeah ... Kahimi rocks! ;-) Check out her "S/T" > comp on Minty Fresh for an intro. Tracks produced by > Katerine & Momus. Jorge Ben & Gainsbourg covers. > If you like that, buy all her Japanese albums! ;-) > > > -Patrick > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 10:54:15 -0500 From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) Johnny Keating / Norrie Paramor finds > To be honest, I'd base a trip to the UK on more than a desire to track down > John Keating LP's. I've been disappointed by most of his that I've heard. Okay. I hope I can still get my ticket refunded. My first exposure to Johnny Keating was on the Loungcore compilation "The Easy Project," which has some nice, swinging soundtrack-type songs. I forget which were his, but I had assumed that JK was a hip arranger & conducter. The "Temptation" album didn't dissuade me from that, although the subsequent Phase 4 purchases were fairly disappointing. How would you compare him with Laurie Johnson, who is also featured on the Easy Project CD? I have one LP of his that I think is fantastic--best version of Bali H'ai I have (except, maybe, for Werner Muller's). Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 16:35:41 +0100 From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: RE: (exotica) Johnny Keating / Norrie Paramor finds I don't feel familiar enough with Laurie Johnson to say. What I've heard has been great, but I haven't heard that much. If the only John Keating stuff I'd heard was Temptation I'd say he was the man. The man for this would have been Peter Hipwell, but unless he's lurking he moved on a while back. There are a couple of John Keating tracks on the 'In Flight' compilation from the space LP and they are Moog-tastic, but thats not my experience of his stuff. They're probably the best cuts from the LP too, although I'm partial to the Start Trek theme. Laurie Johnson played at the Albert Hall a couple of years ago and I remember it being well reviewed. So not much help I'm afraid, as with all these people I suppose, as has been said before, they were working composers and band leaders who did what was neccessary to keep the work coming in. So lush background strings one LP, Moog covers of Rolling Stones songs the next. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@netscape.net grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ . > My first exposure to > Johnny Keating was on the Loungcore compilation "The Easy Project," which > has some nice, swinging soundtrack-type songs. I forget which were his, > but > I had assumed that JK was a hip arranger & conducter. The "Temptation" > album didn't dissuade me from that, although the subsequent Phase 4 > purchases were fairly disappointing. How would you compare him with > Laurie > Johnson, who is also featured on the Easy Project CD? I have one LP of > his > that I think is fantastic--best version of Bali H'ai I have (except, > maybe, > for Werner Muller's). > Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #1039 ******************************