From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #999 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Wednesday, June 20 2001 Volume 02 : Number 999 In This Digest: (exotica) Hammond query re: (exotica) Sopranos music question (exotica) Re: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: contentrepublic.com.exoticaxmission.com: host not found) Re: (exotica) Hammond query (exotica) Re: When I was 17 (exotica) RadioFreeLux.com (exotica) alan's film (exotica) i told you not to cry Re: (exotica) Hammond query Re: (exotica) greetings/intro Re: (exotica) Hammond query (exotica) Second try.. (exotica) Grand Award jazz (exotica) more GA sides.. (exotica) song>poem Re: (exotica) Second try.. (exotica) Audiophile 78s Re: (exotica) Second try.. Re: (exotica) Second try.. RE: (exotica) i told you not to cry Re: (exotica) Command, &c... Re: (exotica) Foreign Commercials Re: (exotica) more soundtrack questions Re: (exotica) a few recent finds of my own Re: (exotica) Second try.. (exotica) more on exitart's lp show Re: (exotica) more soundtrack questions Re: (exotica) Second try.. RE: (exotica) Second try.. (exotica) ignore / just / a / test Re: (exotica) a few recent finds of my own (exotica) Sounds in the Night MP3 (exotica) Charlies Angels..... Re: (exotica) Charlies Angels..... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:52:10 +0100 From: Charles Moseley Subject: (exotica) Hammond query Yes, I have a completely worthless question for the list that I may or may not get a response to: Is it true that 'Pulling out all the stops' is a reference to Hammond organs? Did this come up on the list some time ago? Thanks all. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:10:55 +0100 From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: re: (exotica) Sopranos music question I think it was Frank Sinatra. Also covered by William Shatner on 'The Transformed Man'. And theres a very good version by Herb Alpert. So full of loss. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@netscape.net grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:08:05 +0100 From: Charles Moseley Subject: (exotica) Sopranos music question At the start of the second series of the Sopranos is a sequence to show the passing of time - a few months? - and the music that is playing is Tony Bennet-ish. 'When I was 17'. Can anybody identify it please? Thanks! Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:12:58 EDT From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: contentrepublic.com.exoticaxmission.com: host not found) When I was 17'. Can anybody identify it please?=20 "It Was A Very Good Year" from the Broadway musical "The Fantastiks" circa 1966 or so...Frankie did it..Jimmy Durante did it...Its been done many times over..Not a bad song for sentimental looker-backers >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:22:18 +0100 From: Steve Morgan Subject: Re: (exotica) Hammond query At 14:52 19/06/01 +0100, you wrote: > >Yes, I have a completely worthless question for the list that I may or may >not get a response to: > >Is it true that 'Pulling out all the stops' is a reference to Hammond >organs? Did this come up on the list some time ago? > church organs i'd say # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:42:12 -0500 From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: (exotica) Re: When I was 17 > "It Was A Very Good Year" from the Broadway musical "The Fantastiks" circa 1966 or so...Frankie did it..Jimmy Durante did it...Its been done many times > over..Not a bad song for sentimental looker-backers Don't forget the classic version performed by... Homer Simpson! "When I was 17, I had some very good beer. I had some very good beer that I purchased with a fake ID. My name was Brian McGee. We stayed up listening to Queen, When I was 17..." - -Indy Rutks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:50:30 EDT From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) RadioFreeLux.com Some former luxuriamusic folks have started something here...You can get about 20 minutes so far..... http://www.radiofreelux.com/listen.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:53:03 From: "mark jung" Subject: (exotica) alan's film hey, for those of us not in the DC area and morbidly curious about this collecting disease, where can we find it? (facets, lackluster, or video upchuck?) mark itsvern@attglobal.net sez: >>Vinyl Why collect records when you don't even have time to listen to them? Exploring a longstanding addiction to vinyl discs, award-winning independent filmmaker Alan Zweig sets out on a decidedly strange and telling journey to the center of record collecting mania, as he looks for answers to his own obsessive hoarding. (Alan Zweig, 2000, 110 minutes) Gerry Flahive, producer, and Tom McSorley, Canadian Film Institute, will be present to discuss the films. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:27:21 +0800 From: "William" Subject: (exotica) i told you not to cry > > I have a copy of this and never play it. I really did not like it compared > to the other Wilden stuff I have. I'd avoid it because there's so much more > out there that you should buy instead. too late. i ended up picking up both "i told you not to cry" and "schulmadchen report". i'm not sure which one i like more but i'm glad to have them both actually. and i also picked up the pascal comelade/bel canto orchestra disc as well. i haven't had the chance to listen to that one yet. i've been sick and not in the mood to really listen to that much music lately. oh, and i forgot to mention they also had some pascal comelade with the word cabaret in the title? comments? i'm i think i've reached my limit for splurging on cds this month already, but we'll see... william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:54:31 -0400 From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Hammond query > >Is it true that 'Pulling out all the stops' is a reference to Hammond > >organs? Did this come up on the list some time ago? > > >church organs i'd say Yeah, pipe organs for sure. So the phrase could source back very far indeed. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:55:13 -0500 From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) greetings/intro Lordy, I do love that fifties jazz. You're welcome to discuss that all you want. I don't know much about it...just that I like it. Welcome to the list Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:10:39 +0100 From: "ronnie edgar" Subject: Re: (exotica) Hammond query I was under the impression that it was the british version of "Kick out the Jamms" > >church organs i'd say > > Yeah, pipe organs for sure. So the phrase could source back very far indeed. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:25:18 -0700 From: PjB Subject: (exotica) Second try.. please note: i tried to post this yesterday, but i don't think it made it to the list somehow. sorry if you've already seen it.. pb @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ >Hey, half the records that drew me into this stuff were made for pop-market >audiophiles. Art Blakey fans no doubt lost precious hours of their lives >bemoaning gimmicky bullshit on Command records the above got me wondering... do most people here enjoy exotic music in the same way that you enjoy springsteen if a rocker or herbie nichols if you're a jazz fan? ..or is a certain affectation necessary in the process of listening? in other words, is it the strange-ness of the records that appeals to you, or the music itself? with me, it is the former, generally..... although there are certain exotic sides that appeal to the musician in me. is anyone here familiar with or interested in the song-poem (send us your lyrics) industry of the 50s and 60s? it seems to me that the recordings produced in that genre fall into an exotica category, but perhaps not. if there is interest, i can direct you to an amazing tale... .02 pb/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:34:07 -0700 From: PjB Subject: (exotica) Grand Award jazz i found an interesting side the other day...... cozy cole's big seven, 'after hours'. well.... half a record, anyway. side one is the cole group, side two is a jimmy mcpartland combo (as you may now, jimmy is husband to marion mcpartland, the pianist of NPR fame.... she plays on this, as well). did Grand Award issue many jazz records? i haven't been able to find out anything about this record.... it came with no cover ;( cole's side of the record starts out with 'caravan'.... which i believe is a tune well know to exoticants everywhere. could it really be that E Light signed the group because of their rendition of this old Ellington standard? anyone? .02 pb/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:59:29 -0700 From: PjB Subject: (exotica) more GA sides.. found a couple of Grand Award issues that i know nothing about: 1) Bobby Byrne, 'Old Black Magic' 2) Billy Rowland, 'Scrub Me Mama' these are on a set sale list i came across. anyone know anything about these two? .02 pb/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:28:55 +0100 From: SH Subject: (exotica) song>poem Ther must have been a reason the song/poem society is on the Luxuriamusic.com linklist. Also, I like exotca for the music. For the way it was done. And for the strangeness, which becomes ne, which becomes familiar. And I go on. But that’s just me Kahuna # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:40:25 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Second try.. At 02:25 PM 6/19/01 -0700, PjB wrote: .>the above got me wondering... do most people here enjoy exotic music in >the same way that you enjoy springsteen if a rocker or herbie nichols if >you're a jazz fan? ..or is a certain affectation necessary in the process >of listening? in other words, is it the strange-ness of the records that >appeals to you, or the music itself? . You stepped in it now. Only a few days on the list and already asking such basic and controversial questions. I know what you're asking. I think that some people here would almost be offended by your question and the assumption behind it. But I'm not one of them. For myself I would say that my affection for exotica is different than my affection for jazz or indie rock or any number of genres that I've liked for a long time. I think when I first started listening to this kind of stuff, it was a bit of an "affectation". There was "ironic" enjoyment. It was a "guilty pleasure". etc etc, But now it's just something I like. Genuinely like. Maybe the fact that it was a guilty pleasure that became a genuine pleasure partly accounts for the fact that I still feel differently about it than I do about rock or jazz. I can't characterize the difference in my feelings. I just know it's there. But it's gotten more and more subtle. And that might have something to do with the fact that I probably spend more time listening to "this kind of music" - which in my case is more about Now Sound and lounge than exotica - than anything else. It might not be my favorite kind of music but it's usually the easiest thing to put on. Like I say... "You're always in the mood for easy listening". or "When you can't figure out what kind of mood you're in, turn on some easy listening." or "Until you figure what kind of music you really want to listen to, turn on some easy listening". Something like that. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:18:05 -0700 From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Audiophile 78s exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:40:57 +0100 >From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk >Subject: (exotica) New 78's > >I read in the Guardian Newspaper a couple of weeks ago that someone was >pressing up new 78's of old previously unissued recordings. I read about that too. Apparently they found metal parts for unissued takes in mint condition and they are pressing them on virgin vinyl for maximum fidelity. Unfortunately, they are charging a King's ransom for them. This isn't a new idea. Victor had a line in the late forties called "Victor Red Seal De-Luxe" which was red vinyl pressings of contemporary and historical recordings. I bid on a batch of Caruso records that were released through Victor De-Luxe in amazing foil pouches with tons of printed material. It goes to show that the HiFi nut was around long before the HiFi was invented! See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:21:58 -0700 From: PjB Subject: Re: (exotica) Second try.. >You stepped in it now. Only a few days on the list and already asking such >basic and controversial questions. ye gads. i certainly mean to ruffle no feathers. the questions were honest and sincere ones. and i have long since learned to make no judgements whatever regarding someones taste in music or anything else..... there truly is no accounting for taste, nor should there be. >I know what you're asking. I think that some people here would almost be >offended by your question and the assumption behind it. to anyone offended, i apologize. >But now it's just something I like. Genuinely like. i can get to that. in fact, you might be surprised by some of the folks that listen to and enjoy this music. you've heard of the neville brothers, out of new orleans? well, aaron's son ivan, who is my age and a stone r&b funkster, picked me up at the airport one time in LA. he was in a rented car, and had the radio on. the station? pure easy listening. i asked him about it, and he merely replied that he finds it 'soothing'. and so do i. in fact, easy listening is getting harder to find on the radio dial these days.... thankfully, the net is here to take up the slack. >Maybe the fact that it was a guilty pleasure that became a genuine pleasure >partly accounts for the fact that I still feel differently about it than I >do about rock or jazz. hmm. i've been a working/touring jazz musician for some 20 years, so obviously my sentiments about that particular discipline are going to be different than my feelings about folk, rap, house, r&b, or exotica. i can say this, tho.... the older i get, the clearer the distinction gets between what i consider bad and good and yet at the same time, i am more accepting of, and hear quality in, more different genres than ever before. the 'good' stuff all seems to have certain elements in common, as does the bad. i think generally it comes down to an issue of that much abused and maligned word 'soul'.... i know it when i hear it, and i know it when i don't hear it. and it is in this area where the rubber meets the road, in terms of discussing with someone their taste in music. you cannot quantify 'soul', nor make a list of adjectives which describe it.... but tell someone that you think their music is soulless, and watch the reactions you get. is exotic music soulful? i think much of it is. there is not a scintilla of doubt in my mind that when enoch light made the percussion sides, or jackie gleason recorded 'music for lovers only', that they did so in total earnestness and without a trace of cynicism. at the same time, can there be any doubt that some (many?) of the space-agers, the moog-ers, the exoticians and the bongo players were attempting to cash in on a new thing? like anywhere else, there's wheat and there's chaff. and of course, as always, after discussing every possible motive of every possible musician of every possible decade..... it comes right back down to this: does the music sound good to you? if i answer that question in the affirmative, i buy the record. and, thanks to new knowledge being gained from the likes of y'all, i'm buying a lot of good records lately. .02 pb/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:04:39 EDT From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Second try.. In a message dated 6/19/1 7:23:01 PM, tvine@teleport.com wrote: >to anyone offended, i apologize. 'ey kid, don' worry about-it...Jimmy Botticelli/Alan is just our point man for those nagging details we never bother with but probably should. That's why we need him so bad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:34:22 -0400 From: "Brian" Subject: RE: (exotica) i told you not to cry Charles Moseley wrote: > I have a copy of this and never play it. I really did not like it compared > to the other Wilden stuff I have. I'd avoid it because there's so much > more out there that you should buy instead. How much longer can this genre > continue though? Its all getting a bit samey now. Maybe I'm just jaded I think you should give it a listen again. Honestly though, the title track of this CD is as good as it gets and the rest of it is well up there! I can't believe anyone could pan this CD, but I do agree there is also a lot of other stuff out there to buy, and that there is probably a limit to how much longer it can continue. Still I'm not quite ready to give up on it yet. Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:34:34 -0400 From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (exotica) Command, &c... Alan wrote: > > lastly, i found the original soundtrack to 'Oklahoma', > Woah there buddy. "Oklahoma?" Sorry. Can't go there. No. Not that. > Not on my list! No sirree. The dreaded Broadway musical.... Definitely a tough sell by all counts! Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:37:45 -0400 From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (exotica) Foreign Commercials Brian Linds wrote: > Would anyone know of any commercial releases of ads in languages other > than english? Or....do any of you exoticats have CDR compilations of ads > in foreign languages? I have a CDR full of some very cool North American > ads I'd be willing to trade. Strangely enough Napster was a particularly good source! There must have been a CD of Coke commercials somewhere as I saw many of them from Nancy Sinatra to Deep Purple available. You'd have to find them through a search, which isn't all that obvious to determine. I once did a search on ZDF though, looking for connections to German television themes, and it turned up a whole pile of German TV related mp3's which I knew nothing about. Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:35:58 -0400 From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (exotica) more soundtrack questions Br. Cleve wrote: > > "Man with Two Heads. Who did it? Was there a record? > kind of, but not really. There's a record titled "Music Inspired By 'The > Thing With 2 Heads'"... But it's a collection of tracks like The > Incredible Bongo Band doing "Bongolia" and "Bongo Rock... On Pride/MGM . Interesting... because Pride was the Canadian label from Vancouver that released the original Incredible Bongo Band records (yes they were Candian!). Sounds like it was more of an excuse for the label to feature their own signed artists. Unless the IBB did the actual music for the film. I haven't seen it so I can't say for sure. I believe Pride was also affiliated with MGM. Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:11:46 -0700 From: "basic hip" Subject: Re: (exotica) a few recent finds of my own > >Sounds in the Night (Bethlehem) > >Russ Garcia > Any theremin on this disk, Ford? And are these mostly covers or Garcia's > own stuff, like on Fantastica? Please tell us more about this. Well, I'll try. No theremin at all, although it sure would work with the mood of the record. You may recognize the name of one of the nine singers, Marni Nixon. The voices are used like instruments and Marni really hits the highs. She did a couple of songs on the Mr. Magoo in Hi-Fi album, the side with Dennis Farnon's Mother Goose Suite. A beautiful "Very Contrary Mary". Fay Lovsky does a great job as the vocalist on the Metropole Orchestra's reconstruction of this classic. Anyway, back to the album. All but three tracks are written by others. Porter, Ellington, Gershwin, those guys. Good stuff :) >Do you (or anyone here) know(s) on what record Montenegro > covers the Godfather Theme? Rota, Montenegro, moog...must locate this > record. Must locate this record. Well, there was a 1972 album called "Love Themes of the Godfather" - could that be it? Try GEMM - it's in there as a CD or LP. > > I love SDJr! (Sammy Davis Jr.) > > Me too. Am questing the record where he covers The Man with the Golden Arm. > Heard it once on radio while driving to an appointment...so good, I stopped > the car and parked illegally until the tune was done. Alas, the DJ did not > ID the record. Can someone please enlighten me? I love digging up this kind of info on the internet. looks like it was never on an LP, just a single. Here is more from the Sammy Davis Jr. Association page: 1956 In A Persian Market/The Man With The Golden Arm Brunswick 05518 ....i think it came on Decca later... Go git it, Mimi! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 02:29:05 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Second try.. At 05:21 PM 6/19/01 -0700, PjB wrote: >. there is not a >scintilla of doubt in my mind that when enoch light made the percussion >sides, or jackie gleason recorded 'music for lovers only', that they did >so in total earnestness and without a trace of cynicism. at the same >time, can there be any doubt that some (many?) of the space-agers, the >moog-ers, the exoticians and the bongo players were attempting to cash in >on a new thing? I can't tell the difference between the earnest ones and the cash-ins. But I suspect my favorite music was made by the cash-ins. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 02:39:41 -0400 From: evan.cordes@monkey.org Subject: (exotica) more on exitart's lp show snipped from http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0125/saltz.shtml Cover Me by Jerry Saltz Boy, did Exit Art get this one right. First, Jeanette Ingberman and Papo Colo -- the founders and guiding spirits of this venerable alternative space -- come up with an idea for a show that is so simple no one ever thought of it before: the short but fabulously fluctuating, infinitely excessive history of the LP cover. It's an idea that intersects with art, music, design, and fantasy; that audiences from all over the taste map can get into; that is flush with nostalgia, pleasure, salaciousness, and tastelessness; that is so rich in cultural and stylistic diversity it could have been called "The American Century." Then they job out this idea to the perfect curator: that most excellent art critic cum hipster cum music writer Carlo McCormick, who (with project manager Jodi Hanel) had the good sense and magnanimity to enlist a crew of collectors, fans, and fanatics to help round up material for this awesomely all-over-the-place show. ... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:23:37 +0100 From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) more soundtrack questions Brian wrote: > > Br. Cleve wrote: > > > > "Man with Two Heads. Who did it? Was there a record? > > kind of, but not really. There's a record titled "Music Inspired By 'The > > Thing With 2 Heads'"... But it's a collection of tracks like The > > Incredible Bongo Band doing "Bongolia" and "Bongo Rock... On Pride/MGM . > Interesting... because Pride was the Canadian label from Vancouver that > released the original Incredible Bongo Band records (yes they were > Candian!). Sounds like it was more of an excuse for the label to feature > their own signed artists. Unless the IBB did the actual music for the film. > I haven't seen it so I can't say for sure. I believe Pride was also > affiliated with MGM. Two (?) tracks in the film were recorded by Michael Viner for the film (Bongo Rock for a chase scene is one), and have a publishing date of 1972 on the Bongo Rock album sleeve. The rest of the album was recorded to make up an album's worth (and has a publishing date of 1973). The IBB didn't really ever 'exist' as a band. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:31:02 From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) Second try.. >get. is exotic music soulful? i think much of it is. there is not a >scintilla of doubt in my mind that when enoch light made the percussion >sides, or jackie gleason recorded 'music for lovers only', that they did > >so in total earnestness and without a trace of cynicism. at the same > >time, can there be any doubt that some (many?) of the space-agers, the > >moog-ers, the exoticians and the bongo players were attempting to cash in > >on a new thing? like anywhere else, there's wheat and there's chaff. >and >of course, as always, after discussing every possible motive of every > >possible musician of every possible decade..... it comes right back down >to >this: does the music sound good to you? The motivation of the musician while they are making something is, and I would claim, should not be of any great interest to the audience. I love a lot of the exploitation music. More, probably, than I do the sincere music. That applies to my attitude across the genres of popular music, including modern dance music. Imagine being po faced and serious about music to dance to? Imagine being po faced and serious about moogsploitation, porn soundtracks etc. You don't have to as many composers do it for you. Try to make it like they're saving the world or something (see JJ Perrey's 'serious research' on whales and sleep). Soul? As Brian Eno said, many years ago 'everybody's faking'. It's art, not life. As Wilde sai, great inspiration frequently makes for indifferent art. And seeing as I'm quoting, one from the KLF's manual on how to have a number one 'We await the day with relish that someone dares to make a dance record that consists of nothing more than an electronically programmed bass drum beat that continues playing the fours monotonously for eight minutes. Then, when somebody elsebrings one out using exactly the same bass drum sound and at the same BPM, we will be able to tell which is the best, which inspires the dance floor to fill the fastest, which has the most sex and the most soul. There is no doubt, one will be better than the other.' Maybe I love the chaff with the wheat. I think I got into exotica via its novelty. Maybe I don't listen to classical music seriously either (some Arvo Part I'm listening to at the moment is seriously funny. Late period Gorecky is hilariously stentorian, solemn and self important.) or at any rate, much more seriously just with a longer attention span but not forgetting everything outside it. all the best, rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:54:43 +0100 From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) Second try.. Well said Rob, and this is the reason that I can enjoy Britney Spears' Hit Me Baby One More Time - because like a lot of the artists we love, those Swedish producers (Britney's production team) probably sat in the studio chuckling to themselves about how cheesy and popular and crap and meaningless their song was. In a sense, all popular music is an attempt to cash in on what has gone before it. 'I'm going to make a song even cheesier/camper/more worthless than X's hit'. One genre I do love and that you never hear in the UK is the really bad euro record - sung in English over a banging house/hi-nrg beat. There is a song that is put together with so much conviction, meaning and hard work that typifies the genre - Europeans getting it so wrong that it can only be fantastic - Gigi D'Agostino's The Riddle - a cover version of Nik Kershaw's 80s hit. Even the concept is flawed! Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:58:56 +0200 (MEST) From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) ignore / just / a / test ignore / just / a / test - -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - -- GMX Tipp: Machen Sie Ihr Hobby zu Geld bei unserem Partner 1&1! http://profiseller.de/info/index.php3?ac=OM.PS.PS003K00596T0409a # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:23:36 -0500 From: Mimi Mayer Subject: Re: (exotica) a few recent finds of my own At 09:11 PM 6/19/01 -0700, Basic Hip wrote: >> >Sounds in the Night (Bethlehem) >> >Russ Garcia >Well, I'll try. No theremin at all, although it sure would work with the >mood of the record. Very telling remark. Sounds like the vocals are superb...rather Space Siren-ish. You're right: I love Marni Nixon. Anyone know if she was closely associated with Garcia? > She did a couple of songs on the Mr. Magoo in Hi-Fi album, the side >with Dennis Farnon's Mother Goose Suite. As in Ravel's Mother Goose Suite? Ooh! Ooh! A gorgeous piece infused with magic (naturally.) Bet those of you who loven the dreamy aspects of exotica would dig the mood of MGS. I favor the score for ballet. >Well, there was a 1972 albm called "Love Themes of the Godfather" - could >that be it? Try GEMM - it's in there as a CD or LP. A gallant exoticat stepped forth from the shadows and offered a spare copy in trade. Thank you, gallant one! I'd been looking for this record ever since finding a compilation of quad recordings--yoiks, cannot find the record and cannot recall the label. The liners IDed a Hugo cut culled fom "Love Themes." *So* looking forward to hearing the entire LP. > looks like it was >never on an LP, just a single. Here is more from the Sammy Davis Jr. >Association page: >1956 In A Persian Market/The Man With The Golden Arm >Brunswick 05518 > >....i think it came on Decca later... > >Go git it, Mimi! Bravo, Ford! Small wonder I never spotted Golden Arm on any SDj albums. Bet you'll find this single on eBay before I do with my brick-based sources. :) When you do, please tell us what you think. With Golden Arm and Persian market, this 45 looks prime for members of this list. Thanks for all the excellent info. You add so much to the list. I'm so glad you're exotica. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 07:24:09 -0700 From: "basic hip" Subject: (exotica) Sounds in the Night MP3 Mimi and friends - here is an 857kb downloadable MP3 of "painting the town blue" from the Sounds in the Night LP. Pretty much will give you the feel for it. There are a few uptempo and swingin' tracks too. http://www.basichip.com/sounds/russ.mp3 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:37:09 -0400 From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Charlies Angels..... Watched this over the weekend - a fun film. Soundtrack was also good - Sukiyaki is one of the tunes. Was also = interested in a rap song that starts with a familiar Godzilla riff (very = minor chords to signal that Godzilla is stomping his way through town). I = checked the credits but didn't recognize a song title to fit - can anyone = tell me what song this is and is it on the "soundtrack?" - - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:50:06 From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) Charlies Angels..... > >Watched this over the weekend - a fun film. > >Soundtrack was also good - Sukiyaki is one of the tunes. Was also >interested in a rap song that starts with a familiar Godzilla riff (very >minor chords to signal that Godzilla is stomping his way through town). I >checked the credits but didn't recognize a song title to fit - can anyone >tell me what song this is and is it on the "soundtrack?" > >- Nate Had 'Twiggy Twiggy' by Pizzicato Five. The hip hop tune was 'Simon Says' by Pharoah Monch. Big hit in the scene a year or two ago. It cut just before the chorous 'Simon says: get the fuck out'. No idea if it's on the soundtrack. Just saw it last weekend myself. Rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #999 *****************************