From: "William S. Morton" Subject: (fractint) first post Date: 05 Sep 1999 12:31:04 -0700 To whom any of this may concern; I'm a beginner in fractals, have a 350mh presario w/ Windows98, dabbled w/ Winfract, and am currently trying to figure out how to get frain196(Fractint for DOS) to run. I have minimal DOS experience, but have been successful running DOS generators that auto-start. Frain196 and a few other generators like it remain 'un-openable' for me. If you can tell me in sub-layman/'duh,duh' hand-held English(even ebonics) how to begin running Fractint, I will be most grateful! Thanks! Sarge Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Theo Bakker Subject: (fractint) Handleiding. Date: 05 Sep 1999 22:21:28 +0200 Onlangs heb ik (in Word) een nederlandstalige gebruikershandleiding geschreven. Wil je 'm hebben, mail mij dat dan even. Groetjes, Theo. -- Theo Bakker theo.bertie@consunet.nl H. Roland Holstlaan 29 UIN 8400214 (ICQ) 2162 JE Lisse 0252-413775 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL RAY Subject: Re: (fractint) first post Date: 05 Sep 1999 18:31:10 -0400 I had the same problem and someone suggested that I reboot in DOS. When I did that and arrived at the DOS screen I was able to get Fractint 19.6 to work without a problem. Just in case you might not know how, call up the Windows Start Menu either by clicking on the "Start" button on the lower left-hand side of your task bar. Alternatively, you can press the "Windows" key (it's the key with the Windows logo on its face) between the "Ctrl" and "Alt" keys on either side of the space bar.. This will also bring up the Start menu. Choose "shut down" on the bottom of the menu and then click "Restart the computer in MS-DOS mode". Good luck and enjoy Fractint. The DOS version is much better than Winfract. "William S. Morton" wrote: > To whom any of this may concern; > I'm a beginner in fractals, have a 350mh presario w/ Windows98, > dabbled w/ Winfract, and am currently trying to figure out how > to get frain196(Fractint for DOS) to run. > I have minimal DOS experience, but have been successful running > DOS generators that auto-start. Frain196 and a few other generators > like it remain 'un-openable' for me. > If you can tell me in sub-layman/'duh,duh' hand-held English(even > ebonics) > how to begin running Fractint, I will be most grateful! > Thanks! > Sarge > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) Re: first post Date: 05 Sep 1999 20:13:20 -0400 (EDT) At 12:31 PM 9/5/99 -0700, you wrote: >To whom any of this may concern; >I'm a beginner in fractals, have a 350mh presario w/ Windows98, >dabbled w/ Winfract, and am currently trying to figure out how >to get frain196(Fractint for DOS) to run. >I have minimal DOS experience, but have been successful running >DOS generators that auto-start. Frain196 and a few other generators >like it remain 'un-openable' for me. >If you can tell me in sub-layman/'duh,duh' hand-held English(even >ebonics) >how to begin running Fractint, I will be most grateful! >Thanks! > Sarge > Did you unzip the file? If I remember correctly, frain196 is a compressed archive file which must be unzipped before it can be run. The actual Fractint executable file is Jim M. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Terry Erickson" Subject: (fractint) Running "frain196.zip" Date: 05 Sep 1999 18:57:51 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BEF7D0.8DD5A640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sarge- If you don't already know, and excuse me if you do, You can get = Winzip at just about any download website, like Tucows or Cnet or = Winfiles.com . It is very useful in Windows for unzipping files. There = are also a couple of other uncompressor programs out there, too.=20 Anyway, I think this is a good way to run Fractint (DOS version) : Go to your root directory (C:\ - your hard drive) Create a directory (folder) called Fractint in there. Unzip "frain196" into it. If you've got Winzip installed, it's easy- = double-click the "frain196.zip" icon. Choose "extract" . In the Extract = to: box, type C:\Fractint to send it into the folder you created.=20 Now all the files are in the Fractint directory in C: . Click "shut down, and "restart in DOS mode, " and type=20 "CD\" at the prompt. enter. Then type "fractint" and it should run.=20 You'll figger it out from there.=20 Fractint will create a word.doc that explains a lot of the functions. I = forget how to make it do that . . . One thing I'll tell you is that "page up" is to zoom in.=20 Hit "enter" to zooom in , and "ctrl-enter" to zooom out. You can hit "c" twice to begin color cycling. "esc." and "s" to save. Aloha. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BEF7D0.8DD5A640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sarge- If you don't already know, and excuse me if = you do, You=20 can get Winzip at just about any download website, like Tucows or Cnet = or=20 Winfiles.com . It is very useful in Windows for unzipping files. There = are also=20 a couple of other uncompressor programs out there, too.
Anyway, I think this is a good way to run Fractint = (DOS=20 version) :
Go to your root directory (C:\ - your hard = drive)
Create a directory (folder) called Fractint in=20 there.
Unzip "frain196" into it.  If you've got Winzip = installed, it's easy- double-click the "frain196.zip" icon. Choose = "extract" .=20 In the Extract to: box, type  C:\Fractint  to send it into the = folder=20 you created.
Now all the files are in the Fractint directory in = C:=20 .
Click "shut down, and "restart in DOS mode, "  = and type=20
"CD\" at the prompt.
enter.
Then type "fractint"
and it should run.
You'll figger it out from there.
Fractint will create a word.doc that explains a lot = of the=20 functions. I forget how to make it do that . . .
One thing I'll tell you is that "page up" is to zoom = in.=20
Hit "enter" to zooom in , and "ctrl-enter" to zooom=20 out.
You can hit "c" twice to begin color = cycling.
"esc." and "s" to save.
Aloha.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BEF7D0.8DD5A640-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Terry Erickson" Subject: (fractint) running FRACTINT 19.6 Date: 05 Sep 1999 19:45:53 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BEF7D7.4360CFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry- I forgot part of the DOS part. This is a revised version. Sarge- If you don't already know, and excuse me if you do, You can get = Winzip at just about any download website, like Tucows or Cnet or = Winfiles.com . It is very useful in Windows for unzipping files. There = are also a couple of other uncompressor programs out there, too.=20 Anyway, I think this is a good way to run Fractint (DOS version) : Go to your root directory (C:\ - your hard drive) Create a directory (folder) called Fractint in there. Unzip "frain196" into it. If you've got Winzip installed, it's easy- = double-click the "frain196.zip" icon. Choose "extract" . In the Extract = to: box, type C:\Fractint to send it into the folder you created.=20 Now all the files are in the Fractint directory in C: . ------------ Click "shut down, and "restart in DOS mode, " and type=20 "cd\" at the prompt. enter. Type "cd fractint" , "enter" to change the default directory.=20 You should see the prompt, "C:\FRACTINT" on your screen.=20 Then type "fractint" and it should run.=20 You'll figger it out from there.=20 Fractint will create a word.doc that explains a lot of the functions. I = forget how to make it do that . . . One thing I'll tell you is that "page up" is to zoom in.=20 Hit "enter" to zooom in , and "ctrl-enter" to zooom out. You can hit "c" twice to begin color cycling. "esc." and "s" to save. Aloha. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BEF7D7.4360CFC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry- I forgot part of the DOS part. This is a = revised=20 version.
 
Sarge- If you don't already know, and excuse me if = you do, You=20 can get Winzip at just about any download website, like Tucows or Cnet = or=20 Winfiles.com . It is very useful in Windows for unzipping files. There = are also=20 a couple of other uncompressor programs out there, too.
Anyway, I think this is a good way to run Fractint = (DOS=20 version) :
Go to your root directory (C:\ - your hard = drive)
Create a directory (folder) called Fractint in=20 there.
Unzip "frain196" into it.  If you've got Winzip = installed, it's easy- double-click the "frain196.zip" icon. Choose = "extract" .=20 In the Extract to: box, type  C:\Fractint  to send it into the = folder=20 you created.
Now all the files are in the Fractint directory in = C:=20 .
------------
Click "shut down, and "restart in DOS mode, "  = and type=20
"cd\" at the prompt.
enter.
Type "cd fractint" , "enter" to change the default directory. =
You should see the prompt, "C:\FRACTINT" on your screen.
Then type "fractint"
and it should run.
You'll figger it out from there.
Fractint will create a word.doc that explains a lot = of the=20 functions. I forget how to make it do that . . .
One thing I'll tell you is that "page up" is to zoom = in.=20
Hit "enter" to zooom in , and "ctrl-enter" to zooom=20 out.
You can hit "c" twice to begin color = cycling.
"esc." and "s" to save.
Aloha.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BEF7D7.4360CFC0-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Luc-Andr=E9_Rey?=" Subject: (fractint) The fractal's artist of the month - update Date: 07 Sep 1999 14:53:21 +0200 Hello, New pages in the site. The fractal's artist of this month is Sylvie Gallet. (I'ts still possible to admire the pictures of Lee Skinner, "Fractal's artist of the month of august). Regards Luc-Andre http://www.aour.ch Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William S. Morton" Subject: Re: (fractint) running FRACTINT 19.6 Date: 06 Sep 1999 12:34:33 -0700 --------------C2FE4B351DD703086A6FD42F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I unzipped it incorrectly the 1st time around, so I re-downloaded it, followed your instructions(unzip to Fractint folder in C directory) and now it auto-runs perfectly when I double- click it while in Windows98! One question, though. Will I get deep-zooming ONLY if I restart in MSDOS mode, or can I still do that while in Windows98? Anyway...THANKS!!! Sarge Terry Erickson wrote: > Sorry- I forgot part of the DOS part. This is a revised > version. Sarge- If you don't already know, and excuse me if you do, > You can get Winzip at just about any download website, like Tucows or > Cnet or Winfiles.com . It is very useful in Windows for unzipping > files. There are also a couple of other uncompressor programs out > there, too.Anyway, I think this is a good way to run Fractint (DOS > version) :Go to your root directory (C:\ - your hard drive)Create a > directory (folder) called Fractint in there.Unzip "frain196" into it. > If you've got Winzip installed, it's easy- double-click the > "frain196.zip" icon. Choose "extract" . In the Extract to: box, type > C:\Fractint to send it into the folder you created.Now all the files > are in the Fractint directory in C: .------------Click "shut down, and > "restart in DOS mode, " and type"cd\" at the prompt.enter.Type "cd > fractint" , "enter" to change the default directory.You should see the > prompt, "C:\FRACTINT" on your screen.Then type "fractint"and it should > run.You'll figger it out from there.Fractint will create a word.doc > that explains a lot of the functions. I forget how to make it do that > . . .One thing I'll tell you is that "page up" is to zoom in.Hit > "enter" to zooom in , and "ctrl-enter" to zooom out.You can hit "c" > twice to begin color cycling."esc." and "s" to save.Aloha. --------------C2FE4B351DD703086A6FD42F Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I unzipped it incorrectly the 1st time around, so I
re-downloaded it, followed your instructions(unzip to Fractint folder
in C directory) and now it auto-runs perfectly when I double-
click it while in Windows98! One question, though. Will I get
deep-zooming ONLY if I restart in MSDOS mode, or can I
still do that while in Windows98?
Anyway...THANKS!!!
                                       Sarge

Terry Erickson wrote:

Sorry- I forgot part of the DOS part. This is a revised version. Sarge- If you don't already know, and excuse me if you do, You can get Winzip at just about any download website, like Tucows or Cnet or Winfiles.com . It is very useful in Windows for unzipping files. There are also a couple of other uncompressor programs out there, too.Anyway, I think this is a good way to run Fractint (DOS version) :Go to your root directory (C:\ - your hard drive)Create a directory (folder) called Fractint in there.Unzip "frain196" into it.  If you've got Winzip installed, it's easy- double-click the "frain196.zip" icon. Choose "extract" . In the Extract to: box, type  C:\Fractint  to send it into the folder you created.Now all the files are in the Fractint directory in C: .------------Click "shut down, and "restart in DOS mode, "  and type"cd\" at the prompt.enter.Type "cd fractint" , "enter" to change the default directory.You should see the prompt, "C:\FRACTINT" on your screen.Then type "fractint"and it should run.You'll figger it out from there.Fractint will create a word.doc that explains a lot of the functions. I forget how to make it do that . . .One thing I'll tell you is that "page up" is to zoom in.Hit "enter" to zooom in , and "ctrl-enter" to zooom out.You can hit "c" twice to begin color cycling."esc." and "s" to save.Aloha. 
--------------C2FE4B351DD703086A6FD42F-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William S. Morton" Subject: Re: (fractint) first post Date: 06 Sep 1999 12:36:13 -0700 I unzipped it CORRECTLY this time around! Now it auto-starts while in Windows98! Thanks!!! Sarge BILL RAY wrote: > I had the same problem and someone suggested that I reboot in DOS. When > I did that and arrived at the DOS screen I was able to get Fractint 19.6 > to work without a problem. > > Just in case you might not know how, call up the Windows Start Menu > either by clicking on the "Start" button on the lower left-hand side of > your task bar. Alternatively, you can press the "Windows" key (it's the > key with the Windows logo on its face) between the "Ctrl" and "Alt" keys > on either side of the space bar.. This will also bring up the Start > menu. Choose "shut down" on the bottom of the menu and then click > "Restart the computer in MS-DOS mode". Good luck and enjoy Fractint. > The DOS version is much better than Winfract. > > "William S. Morton" wrote: > > > To whom any of this may concern; > > I'm a beginner in fractals, have a 350mh presario w/ Windows98, > > dabbled w/ Winfract, and am currently trying to figure out how > > to get frain196(Fractint for DOS) to run. > > I have minimal DOS experience, but have been successful running > > DOS generators that auto-start. Frain196 and a few other generators > > like it remain 'un-openable' for me. > > If you can tell me in sub-layman/'duh,duh' hand-held English(even > > ebonics) > > how to begin running Fractint, I will be most grateful! > > Thanks! > > Sarge > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William S. Morton" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: first post Date: 06 Sep 1999 12:37:54 -0700 I unzipped it CORRECTLY this time around. Now it auto- runs when I click on it while in Windows98! THANKS!!! Sarge Jim Muth wrote: > At 12:31 PM 9/5/99 -0700, you wrote: > >To whom any of this may concern; > >I'm a beginner in fractals, have a 350mh presario w/ Windows98, > >dabbled w/ Winfract, and am currently trying to figure out how > >to get frain196(Fractint for DOS) to run. > >I have minimal DOS experience, but have been successful running > >DOS generators that auto-start. Frain196 and a few other generators > >like it remain 'un-openable' for me. > >If you can tell me in sub-layman/'duh,duh' hand-held English(even > >ebonics) > >how to begin running Fractint, I will be most grateful! > >Thanks! > > Sarge > > > > Did you unzip the file? If I remember correctly, frain196 is a > compressed archive file which must be unzipped before it can be run. > The actual Fractint executable file is > > Jim M. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Terry Erickson" Subject: (fractint) resources Date: 06 Sep 1999 21:18:37 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BEF8AD.6229F4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sarge- I don't know how deep, but Fractint will zoom pretty deep under = Windows98. You may not notice much difference, except that the mouse = doesn't work under DOS only. I'm sure that's not the only difference, = though. ;-) I like to shut down Windows and run Fractint in "DOS mode", = 'cause then I think Windows is not there (supposedly) to use up system = resources. I do know that I am no expert, but there is an excellent resource for us = which has been prepared by generous and dedicated individuals at- http://fractal.mta.ca/fractint/findex.html#seach_anchor and there are more fun things to learn back at the Fractint website, http://fractal.mta.ca/fractint/fractint.html ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BEF8AD.6229F4A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sarge- I don't know how deep, but Fractint will = zoom=20 pretty deep under Windows98. You may not notice much difference, except = that the=20 mouse doesn't work under DOS only. I'm sure that's not the only = difference,=20 though. ;-)  I like to shut down Windows and = run=20 Fractint in "DOS mode", 'cause then I think Windows is not there = (supposedly) to=20 use up system resources.
I do know that I am no expert, but there is an = excellent=20 resource for us which has been prepared by generous and dedicated = individuals=20 at-
http://f= ractal.mta.ca/fractint/findex.html#seach_anchor
and there are more fun things to learn back at the = Fractint=20 website,
http://fractal.mta.= ca/fractint/fractint.html
------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BEF8AD.6229F4A0-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RENRAD1@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Ragweed par Date: 07 Sep 1999 00:57:02 EDT IN a moment of lapse, I've lost Bill at NY's recent ragweed ifs post-would some kind soul forward a copy of the first e-mail with the main corpus to me off the list, please? renrad1@aol.com is the address. Thank you very much, in advance! ~~ren Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) running FRACTINT 19.6 Date: 06 Sep 1999 15:22:37 -0500 William S. Morton wrote: > > ... (unzip to Fractint folder in C directory) and > now it auto-runs perfectly when I double-click it > while in Windows98! One question, though. Will I > get deep-zooming ONLY if I restart in MSDOS mode, > or can I still do that while in Windows98? > You can still get deep zooms while in Windows 98. You may wish to read the following "tips" for running FractInt under a Windows environment: http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fracwin95.html P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Abi Nathan" Subject: Re: (fractint) first post Date: 06 Sep 1999 15:24:59 +1000 You could try this, If you find the file fractint.exe, with Explorer, right click on it you will have the chance to set the properties for this executable file i.e. fractint.exe. By juggling the settings found there, you create a .pif file (program information file) which then runs the program when you execute it. I've had no problem since - have fun! abi@hyperstream.com.au ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 5:31 AM > To whom any of this may concern; > I'm a beginner in fractals, have a 350mh presario w/ Windows98, > dabbled w/ Winfract, and am currently trying to figure out how > to get frain196(Fractint for DOS) to run. > I have minimal DOS experience, but have been successful running > DOS generators that auto-start. Frain196 and a few other generators > like it remain 'un-openable' for me. > If you can tell me in sub-layman/'duh,duh' hand-held English(even > ebonics) > how to begin running Fractint, I will be most grateful! > Thanks! > Sarge > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RENRAD1@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Ragweed par Date: 07 Sep 1999 09:32:09 EDT In a message dated 99-09-07 08:09:38 EDT, *Bill Decker* wrote: << Bill at NY is another Bill >> Whups...I'm sorry for my confusion. I'd spent a couple of hours tucking away pars collected from the listmail so by the time I realized I had lost your par all I recalled for sure was that it was an IFS by "Bill". I'll blame it on an angry wisdom tooth. Thank you very much(!) for sending me the par, the IFS will be a new Fractint experience for me; I haven't played with that capability yet. ~~ren Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thore Berntsen Subject: (fractint) Some questions? Date: 07 Sep 1999 09:49:44 +0200 I'm now working on a new version of my Fractint Screen Saver, that some of You may have seen. And I have a few questions that I hope some of You can answer. 1. When running Fractint in disk-video mode. What is the fastest setting for the PASSES= parameter. My guess is that it is the 1 or 2 passes setting. Are there any circumstanses where I can't use these settings? 2. Is there any way to get rid of the warning message that one gets when trying to generate IFS fractals in disk video mode? I would like to allow these in my screen saver. Thore Berntsen Norway Berntsen@vbdas.no Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: (fractint) Contest Update Date: 07 Sep 1999 19:52:06 -0500 Greetings folks, For those of you wondering where the contest entries are... I thought I'd fill you in a little bit. I've gone through all the contest entry submission mail over the past two months and verified the files for each entry. I currently have 401 images and animations, amounting to over 76M of material, in compressed form. This is a few more than Kerry has in his database, because there were some stragglers that he doesn't have yet. There are still a few minor changes we need to make before we can pour all the entries into the web site. There is a reason we didn't just put everything up right away and then make corrections later, and that reason is the CD. With this year's contest being so large (downloadable packs will probably total 80M, twice the size of last year's) I expect people to be very interested in ordering that CD, and once it's burned, it becomes very difficult to make changes. :-) So we want to get it right the first time, and if that means taking a few extra days to get everything lined up... then I think it's for the best. Since I don't actually *have* the database yet, I don't have listings of how many entries are in each category. I'll let you know once I have that information. I do expect to have the entries online before the end of the week; right now I'm projecting Thursday evening, possibly *late* Thursday evening, but it may be Friday. CD-ROM information will be posted at that time. Downloadable packs will likely take an extra day. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William S. Morton" Subject: (fractint) thanks Date: 07 Sep 1999 20:22:30 -0700 I've been getting more support than expected! Thanks to everyone for your time & wisdom. Yes, I've got Fractint up & running on my pc. Still fine-tuning here & there. (Now, if only I had a transform command that would instantly make any given fractal to become a Lee Skinner true color ghost fractal!) Sarge Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dusan Djordjevic Subject: (fractint) Fractint 4NT Date: 07 Sep 1999 13:52:40 +0200 What is happening with fractint for NT and Linux ? Are they going to be coded and when ? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James R. McKenzie" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 4NT Date: 08 Sep 1999 02:25:14 -0400 XFRACT is the unix/linux version of FRACTINT it's kinda long on the tooth but it's ot there somewhere check the spanky site, or do a search somewhere like WWW.GOOGLE.COM Can't help with the NT version info though. Sorry T H A N K Y O U James R. McKenzie jimmckenzie@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 7:52 AM > What is happening with fractint for NT and Linux ? Are they going to be > coded and when ? > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 4NT Date: 08 Sep 1999 01:48:17 -0500 Dusan Djordjevic wrote: > > What is happening with fractint for NT and Linux? > Are they going to be coded and when? > Based upon a recent email from one of the Developers, there is a "proposed Xfractint" that is "is still pretty rough". But they "are inches from releasing a new version of Fractint. The only reason it isn't released now is that" two individuals involved "have requested time to make some evolver and sound demos." There will be an announcement in this Discussion List, so look for it in the near future. P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fernando Henrique Bresslau" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 4NT Date: 08 Sep 1999 08:53:25 -0300 ----- Original Message ----- > What is happening with fractint for NT and Linux ? Are they going to be > coded and when ? I downloaded frain196.zip at college and unzipped in a NT machine. It worked fine, except for teh video modes. In that machine I had only permissiona to save files in the temp directory. Fernando _____ _ ___ |) |. | |(_`|) bresslau@ozdobe.org / ' ' ) / / ) | ()|| ~ |_|,_)| __________ ,-/-, /--/ /--< \ \ \ \ \ \ (_/ernando / (_enrique /____)resslau \¨-._ ==**********============================================================`> / / / / / / fernando_bresslau@yahoo.com /_.*¨´ ¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨ http://www.ozdobe.org http://www.jugend.com.br http://polijr.mcca.ep.usp.br _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott D. Boyd" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 4NT Date: 08 Sep 1999 10:09:55 -0500 On Tue, 07 Sep 1999, you wrote: > What is happening with fractint for NT and Linux ? Are they going to be > coded and when ? > The source for xfractint is available from the main fractint site at: =20 http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html. (The link to it is on= that page.) I had some problems compiling it for Linux, so I've made availabl= e a binary package of xfractint that runs on Redhat Linux 5.2 with kernel=20 2.0.37. You're welcome to try it on your Linux box and let me know if it = works for you. It's available at: http://www.fastlane.net/~sdboyd/xfractint.htm= l, along with some hints and tips on using it. Scott -- Scott D. Boyd -- sdboyd@fastlane.net http://www.fastlane.net/~sdboyd/ Sorry - I'm fresh out of snappy sayings today... Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 4NT Date: 08 Sep 1999 17:39:15 -0600 Scott wrote: >You're welcome to try it on your Linux box and let me know if it > works 0000,0000,0000> for you. It's available at: http://www.fastlane.net/~sdboyd/xfractint.html, > along with some hints and tips on using it. The proposed Xfractint release corresponding to Fractint 20.0 (not quite released yet so don't ask - but we are talking hours or days, not weeks) is at: 0000,8000,0000Times New Romanftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/tw04.zip ArialPlease don't upload this anwhere as I already know of some small changes I want to make, so there will be a slightly different release package in a few hours. As Paul quoted me, I called this "rough", although it is cleaner than past Xfractint packages. I am not too pleased with the Makefile, which I changed just enough to work with Red Hat 5.2. If anyone has suggested improvements let me know. For example, what are reasonable SRCDIR and BINDIIR locations? Also, we are putting all of Wizzle's maps in this release. For Xfractint, I just dumped them all into the release package. I should probably do something more elegant. For the DOS package, right now Scott, your hints on your Website look useful. Would you care to put them in a text file to be placed in the distribution? Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bruce Nepple" Subject: (fractint) True Color in Fractint Date: 09 Sep 1999 14:24:44 -0700 I have not been able to find a way to modify the colors when I select 1024X768x64M colors. I get a nice blue mandlebrot that I cannot modify. Am I missing something obvious? bruce Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) True Color in Fractint Date: 09 Sep 1999 19:00:39 -0400 At 02:24 PM 9/9/1999 -0700, you wrote: > >I have not been able to find a way to modify the colors when I select >1024X768x64M colors. I get a nice blue mandlebrot that I cannot modify. >Am I missing something obvious? > >bruce I think Fractint, at 1024 x 768 only supports up to 256 colors (.gif). Try resetting to that and see if that works. davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil McRevis Subject: Re: (fractint) True Color in Fractint Date: 09 Sep 1999 18:45:22 -0600 In article <199909092126.OAA02756@InterJet.imagenation.com>, "Bruce Nepple" writes: > I have not been able to find a way to modify the colors when I select > 1024X768x64M colors. I get a nice blue mandlebrot that I cannot modify. > Am I missing something obvious? Umm... fractint has extremely limited support for anything other than 8bit pallette-based image output. All of fractint's video output is built around <= 8bit deep displays. This assumption permeates all of the fractint code. 16/24/32 bit deep displays (64K/16.7M colors) just weren't around when fractint's video code was written. The developers of fractint are working on changing this situation, but its slow going because of the amount of code that needs to be changed. Also, in 16/24/32 bit video mode there is no longer any colormap to modify, so there is no way to change the colors the way fractint knows how to change them (modifying the colormap). The only "truecolor support" in support in fractint is the ability to write out the iteration value to a targa file called iterates.tga. You enable this with the truecolor=yes option. -- Legalize Adulthood! ``Ain't it funny that they all fire the pistol, at the wrong end of the race?''--PDBT legalize@xmission.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 09 Sep 1999 22:36:14 -0600 Fractint version 20 is available now at my FTP site. As soon as Noel gets it to spanky.triumf.ca, that will be the preferred download site. Meanwhile, the URL's at my site are: User package: ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/frain200.zip Developer source: ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/frasr200.zip I'd appreciate confirmation from a few of the early downloaders that the integrity of the package looks OK. The best way to get into the new features is to run the evolver and sound demos. These are accessible from demp.bat run in a clean directory with all the distribution files. The Xfractint release needs a day or two to finish, however the file tw04.zip at my ftp site is nearly complete. It just needs the help?.src files updated from the DOS package andf some Makefile cleanup. Please don't upload tw04.zip anywhere since it is not quite final. The final version will be along very soon. It's OK to upload frain200.zip and frasr200.zip to other sites, but prudence might dictating waiting 24 hours or so to see if I screwed up in any big way putting the package together :-) Tim Wegner Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) True Color in Fractint Date: 09 Sep 1999 22:42:51 -0600 Rich said: > Umm... fractint has extremely limited support for anything other than > 8bit pallette-based image output. All of fractint's video output is > built around <= 8bit deep displays. True. However the truecolor drivers are implemented, and some reasonable truecolor support would not be hard to implement, even within the frustrating confines of the DOS existing medium memory model architecture. It's just that nobody has jumped in to do it. We'd probably have to save the files as Targas for know and convert to PNG offline. However I think we have a consensus that moving Fractint to a flat memory model is the highest priority. That's were I will focus my efforts, although I have a steep learning curve no matter which way we go. Once we are in a decent platform, we can do a massive cleanup. Of course Rich knows all about this :-) Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: comdotatdotcom@csi.com Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 10 Sep 1999 12:52 0000 Hi Tim, It looks OK so far and I have the source and executables available from my site in the UK: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/olig/olig.htm or at the wishlist site: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/fracwish.htm Anyone wishing to report bugs in this version should visit: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/buglist.htm Though we would really appreciate it if you spent a bit of time finding out as much as you can about any misbehaviour you find before reporting, thanks! Anyone wanting help on using the evolver or sound stuff feel free to drop me a line :-) Cheers, Robin. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fliguer, Miguel" Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:37 -0300 >>>It looks OK so far and I have the source and executables available >>>from my site in the UK The link for the source code http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/FRASR200.ZIP is not working (I also tried lowercase for the filename) Regards, Miguel Fliguer Buenos Aires, Argentina Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fernando Henrique Bresslau" Subject: Re: (fractint) True Color in Fractint Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:43:22 -0300 ----- Original Message ----- > The only "truecolor > support" in support in fractint is the ability to write out the > iteration value to a targa file called iterates.tga. You enable this > with the truecolor=yes option. Hi, I used this option and found the iterates.tga in my \fractint\temp directory. Now what can I do with it, since I don´t even now what *.tga means... Thanks, Bresslau _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fliguer, Miguel" Subject: (fractint) Version 20.0 - Oh no !!! Date: 10 Sep 1999 11:01:23 -0300 Oh no ! I just tried V20 (on a Vectra/Windows NT 4.0/Integrated SiS video) and the first thing I noticed was that I'm not able to get SF5 (640x480x256) anymore !!! It says "This video mode is not available with your adapter", but it worked on v19.6 ! A little conspiracy theory is in order. Since this happens on the PC at my work, I'll be forced to do medium and high-res Fractint only at home. Maybe my boss asked for this on the wish list ... BTW, the new features look awesome in the help file, I can't wait to get home to try them... Miguel Fliguer Buenos Aires, Argentina Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kanak" Subject: R: (fractint) Version 20.0 - Oh no !!! Date: 10 Sep 1999 16:30:00 +0200 do you want me to send you the FRACTINT 19.6 zip ? tell me your address kanak Roma, Italy kanak@libero.it http://www.crosswinds.net/~kanak Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil McRevis Subject: Re: (fractint) True Color in Fractint Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:27:05 -0600 In article <000f01befb92$825bbdc0$a085f6c8@winnetou>, "Fernando Henrique Bresslau" writes: > Hi, I used this option and found the iterates.tga in my \fractint\temp > directory. Now what can I do with it, since I don't even now what *.tga > means... If you don't have any programming knowledge, then it won't do you any good. See the help file where it states that truecolor=yes writes the last iterate out to an iterates.tga file and then it directs you to consult a C code source file in the distribution that will show you how to write a program to read the iterates.tga file and then do something with it. In other words: this truecolor=yes feature is for expert programmer types, not the typical user. -- Legalize Adulthood! ``Ain't it funny that they all fire the pistol, at the wrong end of the race?''--PDBT legalize@xmission.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: comdotatdotcom@csi.com Subject: (fractint) v20.0 source Date: 10 Sep 1999 17:05 0000 Thanks for pointing out the broken link Miguel, I had the .zip part of the file name in lower case for some reason... all fixed now. Cheers, Robin. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noel Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Tim Wegner wrote: >Fractint version 20 is available now at my FTP site. As soon as >Noel gets it to spanky.triumf.ca, that will be the preferred download >site. Meanwhile, the URL's at my site are: The fractint page at Spanky: http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html Now points to the new version 20.0 of Fractint. None of the online docs are updated to the new version yet. That will take a few days, but the sourcecode and executable distributions can now be downloaded from the fractint website. Cheers, Noel Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoWeber Subject: (fractint) Version 20.0 - Oh no !!! Date: 10 Sep 1999 16:01:37 -0400 Hi All, you can download fractint v20.0 from my site http://www.hajoweber.de/download/program/fraint.exe or using http://www.joweber.de and visiting the download page. cheers --Jo Weber-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 10 Sep 1999 22:54:15 -0500 Tim, - It's OK to upload frain200.zip and frasr200.zip to other sites, but - prudence might dictating waiting 24 hours or so to see if I screwed - up in any big way putting the package together :-) (smile) Well if you release an update, I'll grab it. As it is, the 20.0 package is also available here: ftp://ftp.fractalus.com/pub/tools-pc/fractint-20.0.zip Just in case anyone has any trouble connecting to the zillions of OTHER sites that have it. :) Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Traynor" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 11 Sep 1999 00:16:13 -0400 Damien, > Just in case anyone has any trouble connecting to the zillions of OTHER > sites that have it. :) What, you mean there are folk that did not have it downloaded within minutes of Tim's announcement? I've only had a minute's look, but that evolver sure is cool. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William S. Morton" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 10 Sep 1999 23:15:17 -0700 For recent newcomers to Fractint (aka ME), the Evolver feature is a real timesaver, (as well as a bitchin' 72+ image screensaver)! Tim Wegner wrote: > Fractint version 20 is available now at my FTP site. As soon as > Noel gets it to spanky.triumf.ca, that will be the preferred download > site. Meanwhile, the URL's at my site are: > > User package: > ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/frain200.zip > > Developer source: > ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/frasr200.zip > > I'd appreciate confirmation from a few of the early downloaders that > the integrity of the package looks OK. > > The best way to get into the new features is to run the evolver and > sound demos. These are accessible from demp.bat run in a clean > directory with all the distribution files. > > The Xfractint release needs a day or two to finish, however the file > tw04.zip at my ftp site is nearly complete. It just needs the > help?.src files updated from the DOS package andf some Makefile > cleanup. Please don't upload tw04.zip anywhere since it is not > quite final. The final version will be along very soon. > > It's OK to upload frain200.zip and frasr200.zip to other sites, but > prudence might dictating waiting 24 hours or so to see if I screwed > up in any big way putting the package together :-) > > Tim Wegner > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Version 20.0 - Oh no !!! Date: 11 Sep 1999 09:01:26 -0600 Miguel wrote: > I just tried V20 (on a Vectra/Windows NT 4.0/Integrated SiS video) > and the first thing I noticed was that I'm not able to get SF5 > (640x480x256) anymore !!! It says "This video mode is not available > with your adapter", but it worked on v19.6 ! I am surprised that anything about 20.0 would have different video performance from 19.6, but anything is possible, especially under NT. I doubt this will help you, but might be of general interest. Version 20.0 comes with a program called makefcfg.exe that reads your VESA Video BIOS and writes a fractint.cfg file. I suggest you try this and tell us what modes are produced. This is a quick way to see what video modes fractint supports - better try this in the store before buying a computer :-) It is also a handy way to get set up for semi-standard VESA modes such as 1600x1200. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 11 Sep 1999 09:16:17 -0600 Damien wrote: > (smile) Well if you release an update, I'll grab it. As it is, the 20.0 > package is also available here: > > ftp://ftp.fractalus.com/pub/tools-pc/fractint-20.0.zip So far no show stoppers. There are a few places in the docs that say the pixel limit is 2048, and there are a few glitches in the demo.bat file, so I think we're safe from an immediate release of a bug fix 20.1 (knock on wood) :-) Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 11 Sep 1999 09:41:17 -0500 Are you ready for "Burn All GIFs Day": http://burnallgifs.org/ The event, which so far isn't scheduled for an actual date, was started in anger over the discovery that Unisys is making a new effort to extract royalties out of US patent 4,558,302, commonly known as the LZW compression method. Created by Terry Welch of Sperry Corporation in 1983, LZW eventually became Unisys property when Sperry merged with Burroughs Corporation to form Unisys in 1986. LZW is at the heart of the GIF file format. If you make or store GIF files, you're using patented LZW formulas -- and Unisys wants money from you. Of course, this means that GIFs are off-limits to open source users, who aren't used to paying for licenses. The League for Programming Freedom (LPF), which is closely related to the GNU project (LPF was co-founded by GNU leader Richard Stallman), is trying to fight this kind of technology hoarding. And, as a result, you'll see no GIFs on the GNU or LPF Web sites. As far as the GIF-using community knew, no terms existed on using the GIF format until 1995, when CompuServe shocked its community by revealing its deal with Unisys and spelling out terms by which developers would pay licensing fees. But that agreement covered only CompuServe users. The rest of the online community was -- and is -- still open to attack. While maintaining that users of GIF viewers were safe, Unisys began pursuing its patent claims against companies whose graphics software was capable of writing GIF-format files. To let everyone know it was serious, Unisys in 1998 went after Corel and was able to get retroactive fees in an out-of-court settlement. --- Fork it over --- Unisys now says that it wants a $5,000 license from anyone running a Web site that contains GIF files made by unlicensed creation software. For more information on the above story, go to the following URL: http://www.zdnet.com/enterprise/stories/linux/news/0,6423,2330029,00.html P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 11 Sep 1999 12:44:20 -0700 At 09:16 AM 9/11/99 -0600, Tim wrote: >So far no show stoppers. There are a few places in the docs that >say the pixel limit is 2048, and there are a few glitches in the >demo.bat file, so I think we're safe from an immediate release of >a bug fix 20.1 (knock on wood) :-) I had a minor problem. When in evolver mode, I invoked the Ctrl-E command to modify things, and Fractint failed to switch video mode back to text 320x200. While accessing both the first and F6 screens, all text was written over the prior image. I had to quit and restart to clear the bug. I was not able to reproduce the problem. I was running an AMD 80 Mhz 486DX2, with MS.DOS v6.22 and a Trident 8900-based ISA video card, in SF5 mode. Here's my sstools.ini: textsafe=no sound=off fastrestore=yes askvideo=no video=SF5 colors=@temp1a.map maxiter=300 recordcolors=yes Also, an observation/request/complaint (choose one): it would seem to be more natural to use the p(n) data for the current image in x/y mode, rather than require the user to manually enter the lower left corner data. Other than that, I am enjoying the heck out of my new toy! Thanks, Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) V.20 early par Date: 11 Sep 1999 16:00:47 -0400 An early par out v.20: Thought I would take a few minutes break time and see if I could get anything out of Fractint v.20. The color map started out as Droz12 or 13 which I proceeded to modify. And here is the result: ds2 { ; (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 11, 1999 t= 0:02:16.77 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 reset=2000 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=sin/sqr passes=b center-mag=-0.00000000000000067/+0.00000000000000044/1.36612 params=0/0/1.75 float=y maxiter=500 bailout=4 inside=zmag decomp=256 colors=000vrR<11>dJ9cG8aD6<2>Y42W00X31<11>pfLqiNslP<3>zzW<11>fLBdI9bE8<3\ >W00<7>l_IncKqhM<3>zzW<5>kWHhREfLB<3>W00W00<9>nbKpfMrjO<3>zzW<9>gOCeKAcG\ 8<2>Y42W00W00<13>pgMrjOsmP<3>zzW<7>iREgNCdIA<3>W00<16>qiNslPtoQ<3>zzW<4>\ lZIjTFgNC<3>W00<11>oeLqhNslO<2>xvUzzWywV<9>fNCeJAcF8<3>W00<9>nbKpfMrjO<3\ >zzW<3>kWGgOCcG8_84W00<11>tnP } davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 11 Sep 1999 17:05:21 -0400 At 09:41 AM 9/11/1999 -0500, Paul Lee wrote: >Are you ready for "Burn All GIFs Day": (snipped) >--- Fork it over --- >Unisys now says that it wants a $5,000 license from anyone running a Web >site that contains GIF files made by unlicensed creation software. I, for one, thank you for posting this message to this list. In the near (hopefully, if I can find time between rennovating one house, getting another ready to sell, and so on) I was giving serious consideration to putting up a web site as I have threatened to do for some time. And as part of the site, I would of course have probably put up a fractal "gallery" (stop rolling on the floor laughing!) which would probably have had .gif images, though I may have converted to .jpg for space considerations. There is no question now. Should I obtain the time, all images will be converted into .jpg format - until royalties become required for them also. davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: (fractint) Contest 99 Category Breakdown (and other stats) Date: 11 Sep 1999 16:25:47 -0500 Greetings folks, In case you're wondering why the contest entries aren't posted yet, it's because I've been busy putting out other fires. I've verified all entries in the database as best I can, though, so I thought I'd post this information. Note: the total for software adds up to more than the number of entries. This is because a very large number of entries used more than one software package. Categories ---------- Emotion: 40 Organic: 101 Mechanical: 29 Abstract: 124 Quote Interpretation: 34 Limited Color: 24 3D: 29 Animations: 24 Total: 405 <-- !! Software -------- Ultra Fractal: 154 Fractint: 68 TieraZon & TieraZon 2: 42 Photoshop: 34 Paint Shop Pro: 24 KPT 5: 14 SterlingWare: 13 Winfract: 13 Fractal Domains: 12 Fractal Explorer: 10 GrafZViZion: 9 BASIC programs: 8 Flarium24: 8 Photo Paint: 8 Picture Publisher: 7 Unspecified: 6 XenoLab: 6 Inkblot Kaos: 5 Painter: 4 Poser: 4 POV-Ray: 4 Quat: 4 Zplot: 4 Bryce: 3 Dave's Targa Animator: 3 Elmfract: 3 EZ33: 3 FDesign: 3 Fractal Vision: 3 GIF Construction Set: 3 Graphics Workshop: 3 HOP: 3 Image Composer: 3 MMFrac: 3 Organic Art: 3 Original programs: 3 Video Wave: 3 Fractales: 2 Mathart: 2 Movie 11: 2 XaoS: 2 Yin Yang Fire: 2 Dofo-Zon Elite: 1 GIF Animator: 1 Iterations: 1 Piclab: 1 Root-IFS: 1 Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 11 Sep 1999 16:25:25 -0600 Mark wrote: > I had a minor problem. When in evolver mode, I invoked the > Ctrl-E command to modify things, and Fractint failed to switch > video mode back to text 320x200. While accessing both the > first and F6 screens, all text was written over the prior image. > I had to quit and restart to clear the bug. I was not able to > reproduce the problem. If you ever do reproduce the problem, let us know the exact steps. If anyone else sees something similar, see if you can consistently get the problem with a simplke series of steps, and if so, let us know. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cindy mitchell Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest 99 Category Breakdown (and other stats) Date: 11 Sep 1999 14:45:25 -0700 Hi Damien, I wish I had known Organic Art counted. No need to respond as you have plenty to do with the contest. Cindy >Software >-------- >Organic Art: 3 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 11 Sep 1999 16:50:55 -0500 David, - There is no question now. Should I obtain the time, all images will be - converted into .jpg format - until royalties become required for them - also. JPEG was developed as an international standard, and the official spec does refer to a number of patents. The baseline compression that almost everything uses (everything that I know of) relies on the freely-usable Huffman compression; the slightly more efficient arithmetic coding is covered by patents belonging to IBM, AT&T, and Mitsubishi, so nobody uses it, little software implements it, and it gets largely ignored. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Jemison Subject: (fractint) V.20 early par Date: 11 Sep 1999 18:16:34 -0400 David, Nice image...now try this...with the image displayed, notice the "ring" whose inside edge forms a complete oval, and whose outside edge extend slightly outside the image on all four sides. Hit <+> to start color cycling and speed it up until a color band in that ring I described makes= about one complete revolution (should be clockwise) per four seconds or s= o. Now, stand back from your monitor about five feet or so, and stare at the= very center of the image for as long as you can . Then shift your gaze directly down to your keyboard. Whoooaaahhh!! Bill Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: (fractint) Xfractint problems Date: 11 Sep 1999 17:43:05 -0600 Times New RomanCan anyone make sense of these error messages? The latest Xfractint compiles perfectly for me under virtually the same environment as that of this user (Red Hat Linux 5.2) Tim Well, compiling of the newest xfractint (tw04.zip) was going along smoothly until it hit 'loadfile.c'. Then I got the following error messages: gcc -I. -DXFRACT -DNOBSTRING -g -DBIG_ANSI_C -DLINUX -c loadfile.c -o loadfile.o loadfile.c: In function `fgetwindow': loadfile.c:1328: `EACCES' undeclared (first use this function) loadfile.c:1328: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once loadfile.c:1328: for each function it appears in.) make: *** [loadfile.o] Error 1 I'm not a C/C++ programmer, but I thought I'd look thru the file anyway and see if I could figure out how to fix the problem. Anyway, I added the line: "EACCES = 0;" near the top of the file, and typed "make xfractint" again. This time when gcc encountered that line, I got the following message: loadfile.c:40: warning: data definition has no type or storage class (I later learned while looking thru fractint.c that I should have put "int" in front of that declaration line.) The compiler then continued on until I got: gcc -I. -DXFRACT -DNOBSTRING -g -DBIG_ANSI_C -DLINUX -c prompts1.c -o prompts1.o In file included from /usr/include/local_lim.h:21, from /usr/include/posix1_lim.h:92, from /usr/include/dirent.h:153, from /usr/include/sys/dir.h:24, from prompts1.c:12: /usr/include/linux/limits.h:52: No include path in which to find limits.h make: *** [prompts1.o] Error 1 I have "limits.h" in: /usr/include/ , /usr/include/linux/ and /usr/include/sys/ and I *still* get the same error message. Line 52 in limits.h reads: " #include_next <" I have changed it to: < , < , < , and *still* get the same error message! I'm not sure where I should define the include path... In Makefile perhaps? If so - how? (In other words - what's the correct syntax to use? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Jemison Subject: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 11 Sep 1999 19:36:58 -0400 I see you have textsafe=3Dno. Have you tried any of the other textsafe options? textsafe=3Dsave seems to work for lots of people. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: comdotatdotcom@csi.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 12 Sep 1999 1:04 0000 Hi Mark, > >I had a minor problem. When in evolver mode, I invoked the >Ctrl-E command to modify things, and Fractint failed to switch >video mode back to text 320x200. Hmmm, strange one... Like Tim says, see if it happens again and if you can pin down the circumstances then pop a report onto the buglist page for us to chew over. >Also, an observation/request/complaint (choose one): >it would seem to be more natural to use the p(n) data for the >current image in x/y mode, Good idea! I'll see what I can do, there are a few glitches around that area that seem to have slipped through as I was concenrating on the random evolving side of things. Thanks for the feedback, it's interface details like this that I'm looking for to improve the way people interact with the evolver/explorer. >Other than that, I am enjoying the heck out of my new toy! > Glad to hear it :-D Cheers, Robin. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 11 Sep 1999 21:12:52 -0400 Damien, >JPEG was developed (snipped) There is png; I just posted that "early fractint par" as a png on abpf... davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) V.20 early par Date: 11 Sep 1999 21:15:49 -0400 At 06:16 PM 9/11/1999 -0400, you wrote: Hi Bill, (snipped - and thank you) >Now, stand back from your monitor about five feet or so, and stare at the >very center of the image for as long as you can . > >Then shift your gaze directly down to your keyboard. > >Whoooaaahhh!! Er, ummmmmm, don't rightly know if I want to do that... :) davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 11 Sep 1999 21:07:14 -0600 Robin wrote: > Hmmm, strange one... Like Tim says, see if it happens again and if > you can pin down the circumstances then pop a report onto the buglist > page for us to chew over. The buglist, is, of course: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/buglist.htm Looking at it I just realized that Fractint 20.0 can out on the infamous 9/9/99 date :-) I have made minor changes to the file that contains Xfractint. It now matches version 20.0. The file is at: ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/xfract310.zip Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott D. Boyd" Subject: (fractint) Re: Xfractint Date: 11 Sep 1999 23:52:57 -0500 On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, Tim wrote: >=20 > I have made minor changes to the file that contains Xfractint. It now=20 > matches version 20.0. >=20 > The file is at: >=20 > ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/xfract310.zip >=20 That should be: ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/xfrac310.zip (No "t" in the filename.) I'm downloading it now and I'll see how it compiles... Scott -- Scott D. Boyd -- sdboyd@fastlane.net http://www.fastlane.net/~sdboyd/ Sorry - I'm fresh out of snappy sayings today... Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jerome schatten Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 11 Sep 1999 22:05:24 -0700 Tim... couldn't find the file at that location (the xfractint one, that is). Is the filename correct at the bottem of your message? Best regards, jerome Tim Wegner wrote: > > Robin wrote: > > > Hmmm, strange one... Like Tim says, see if it happens again and if > > you can pin down the circumstances then pop a report onto the buglist > > page for us to chew over. > > The buglist, is, of course: > > http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/buglist.htm > > Looking at it I just realized that Fractint 20.0 can out on the > infamous 9/9/99 date :-) > > I have made minor changes to the file that contains Xfractint. It now > matches version 20.0. > > The file is at: > > ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/xfract310.zip > > Tim > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 12 Sep 1999 11:14:16 -0500 davides wrote: > > .... I was giving serious consideration to putting up a > web site as I have threatened to do for some time. And as > part of the site, I would of course have probably put up a > fractal "gallery" (stop rolling on the floor laughing!) > I for one look forward to your website, and especially the Gallery !! Hope this endeavor goes well for you, and soon (for all of your Fans out here). P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 12 Sep 1999 11:28:49 -0700 At 12:44 PM 9/11/99 -0700, I wrote: >... >it would seem to be more natural to use the p(n) data for the >current image in x/y mode, rather than require the user to >manually enter the lower left corner data. Robin, After further analysis, this would only be practical if everyone used it the same way I do, one paramater pair (i.e. p1(real) = x, p1(imag) = y) at a time. I have some additional thoughts which I will relay privately; I just wanted to get this part out to the list to publically admit I was being a bit myopic 8-) Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 12 Sep 1999 13:37:43 -0600 0000,8000,0000Jerome asked: >... couldn't find the file at that location (the xfractint one ... As Scott pointed out, I mispelled the filename, which I shortened to fit the DOS 8-3 naming convention. The correct link is: ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/xfrac310.zip Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ken Childress Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 12 Sep 1999 13:32:59 -0700 Thanks for the info Paul. >--- Fork it over --- >Unisys now says that it wants a $5,000 license from anyone running a Web >site that contains GIF files made by unlicensed creation software. Sounds like it is time to abandon GIF wherever possible. Ken... Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ian.ent@argonet.co.uk (Dr I D Entwistle) Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 12 Sep 1999 22:35:34 +0100 On Sun 12 Sep 1999 (13:32:59), icent@best.com wrote: > > Thanks for the info Paul. > > >--- Fork it over --- > >Unisys now says that it wants a $5,000 license from anyone running a > Web > >site that contains GIF files made by unlicensed creation software. > > Sounds like it is time to abandon GIF wherever possible. If you use an application to generate them dated pre 1994 then you are free of any charges .I was assured some time ago that the Unysis LZW patent does not cover GIF images made outside the USA. My GIF images are generated with software written and sold in the UK. Ian -- See fractal Galleries at http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/ian.ent Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL RAY Subject: (fractint) JavaQuat 1.6 Quaternion Fractal Maker Date: 12 Sep 1999 18:09:00 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B2842B5C1C139886264AA6DC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey gang, here's an interesting app - a Java Applet for generating Fractals. http://www.iglobal.net/lystad/JavaQuat/index.html --------------B2842B5C1C139886264AA6DC Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; name="index.html" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="index.html" Content-Base: "http://www.iglobal.net/lystad/JavaQuat /index.html" Content-Location: "http://www.iglobal.net/lystad/JavaQuat /index.html" JavaQuat 1.6 Quaternion Fractal Maker

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Instructions here. Take a look while the applet downloads.

Java implementations are getting better all the time, but if you have trouble the first thing I'd suggest is that you update your browser to Netscape 4.0 or later. You can download it free for an indefinitely long trial period for private use, which effectively means you can have it free, period. Click here for more information on browsers and JavaQuat.

There would be an applet here if your browser supported Java. Try downloading Netscape Navigator 4.0 ,Internet Explorer, or HotJava all of which support Java applets.

INSTRUCTIONS

Outline of Topics Below

  1. Quick Start
  2. All the Controls in Detail
    1. Drawing Area Buttons
    2. Drawing Areas and the Mouse
    3. Saving your picture
    4. Argument Meanings
      1. Center R, i, j, and k
      2. Qo times R, i, j, and k
      3. Qo plus R, i, j, and k
      4. View Size
      5. Picture Size
      6. Power
      7. Sequence Depth
      8. Vertical Axis
      9. Horiz Axis
      10. Panels
    5. Argument Buttons
      1. 1 Big Canvas
      2. Color Cycles(No longer a button but with them.)
      3. Set V-axis
      4. Swap H & V Axes
      5. Fidelity
      6. Power and "Roll your own" Loop ID
      7. Number of Colors
      8. File I/O
        1. Writing
          1. Saving Arguments
          2. Logging Arguments
          3. Saving a Picture
        2. Reading Arguments
        3. Creating a Zoom Sequence
        4. Creating Large Images - Panels
      9. Auto Advance
      10. Edit Color Map
        1. Color Map Display
        2. The Color Map Editor Buttons
      11. Scan on ....
  3. Legal
  4. Bugs and Problems

Quick Start

What you should see when JavaQuat start is a blue area on the left and a green or gray area on the right. The blue area is where you can control the picture you are going to draw. I call it the blue argument entry area. The numbers and button settings for a given fractal will be refered to as the fractal's arguments. On the right are four (4) drawing areas (2 by 2). Each drawing area has three (3) buttons at the bottom.

Each drawing area comes with a set of arguments pre-loaded. If you click on the "Show Args." button of a drawing area the values for the pre-loaded picture, or the last picture that was drawn on it, will be displayed in the blue argument area. If you then click on a draw button the picture described in the blue area will be drawn. To see all the pre-loaded fractals, go to each drawing area, click on the "Show Args." button and then on the "Draw" button.

If you see something in one of the pictures that you would like to enlarge, drag the mouse across the area you want enlarged. A square box will be drawn where you dragged the mouse to show the section of the current picture that will be enlarged if you proceed to click on any draw buton. The values in the blue arguments area will change to indicate the new center and new "View Size".

If you want to change the size of the picture change the value in the "Picture Size" box, just above right center in the blue argument entry area. Values between 9 and 301 should be possible, though the upper limit may depend on your browser. If you want an even bigger picture, click on the button that says "1 Big Canvas". "Picture Size" can then be set as high as 609 on some browsers.

NOTE: If you are using Netscape on a Mac you will have various things go blank frequently. If you just slightly adjust the size of the Netscape window the picture and arguments will be restored, at least for a while. If you are using any browser on any platform you will experience some minor problems. I am not aware of any bug that appears in more than one browser - platform combination or applet viewer - platform combination. That indicates to me that the problem is not with my Java code. But, of course, no code of even moderate size is ever bug free, so if you think I've goofed up (1) try another browser and see if the problem persists and (2) if it does, send me email at lystad@iglobal.net and tell me what's wrong.


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This software is freeware. If you like it let me know, if you have the time. I'd appreciate an email to lystad@iglobal.net.

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--------------B2842B5C1C139886264AA6DC-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 12 Sep 1999 17:12:41 -0600 > Sounds like it is time to abandon GIF wherever possible. I'd like to keep any further discussion of the Unisys topic related to Fractal software. I am a member of the PNG team (albeit a minor one). My position is that I would like to get out from under GIF and use PNG for Fractint. This would have the bonus that Truecolor is handled by PNG, so we wouldn't need another format for truecolor. We would have to finally design the PNG chunk I have reserved for fractal information, and supply conversion software for old GIFs that would translate the fractal information stored in the GIF. The only reason that we haven't done this is that libpng code for handling PNG needs a lot more resources than GIF. This is a non- issue for most software, but a serious problem for the DOS Fractint which uses a memory model that limits the dotal near data to 64K. (It took me half a day to add rough PNG saving to Xfractint.) I have though of ways around this for the DOS version, but decided a long time ago that it would be a waste of time, since all the effort would be moot when Fractint is finally ported out of DOS. I'm just embarressed this has taken so long - the development team has been operating less intensely for quite a while. Meanwhile, there are tools available that allow you to convert your Fractint images to PNG for posting on Web sites. These can be viewed with any up to date version of IE or Netscape. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: comdotatdotcom@csi.com Subject: RE: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 13 Sep 1999 0:17 0000 Hi Bud, >After further analysis, this would only be practical if everyone >used it the same way I do, one paramater pair (i.e. p1(real) = x, It's still a good idea for maybe an Fkey in the evolver control menu, it'd take away a lot of hassle for those who want to explore the parameter space around an image they've found by other means. Also in the absence of any four dimensional hyperVGA displays so far it makes a lot of sense to just explore two parameters at a time :-) Cheers, Robin. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: (fractint) Type=test is broken Date: 12 Sep 1999 20:08:41 -0600 This is hardly a show stopper, but type=test is broken in version 20.0. The fix is to comment out the declaration of thelocal variable "col" in test() in miscfrac.c, which in effect makes the routine use the global version. It's a rule of good software engineering to avoid global variables. We have violated this a fair bit ... :-) Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL RAY Subject: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver Date: 12 Sep 1999 23:01:02 -0400 I have downloaded and installed Fractint 20, which is great. However, I have not been able to use Evolver. When I invoke the zoom function the rectangle can only move halfway vertically, horizontally or left or right - the mouse seems frozen. Is there a parameter or command I can put into sstools.ini to make the Evolver function work or is there a command-line fix. So far the Sound function doesn't work either, although I do get a 'beep' after a fractal is finished loading, so the sound card seems to be functioning. I run Fractint20 under DOS on a 200mhz Pentium with 64megs of ram and 2megs of video ram. I have changed video modes and that does not help. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver Date: 12 Sep 1999 20:24:15 -0700 At 11:01 PM 9/12/99 -0400, you wrote: >... I >have not been able to use Evolver. When I invoke the zoom function the >rectangle can only move halfway vertically, horizontally or left or >right - the mouse seems frozen. Bill: To select another image, you have to press Ctrl while pressing the arrow keys. I have been glued to this new feature to the extent that I'm clueless to whatever else is new! Examples coming in the near future... Bud P.S.: any rumors on the FA'99 contest unveiling? ( ;;-) nudge nudge) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 12 Sep 1999 20:40:33 -1000 On 12 Sep 99 at 17:12, Tim Wegner wrote: > Meanwhile, there are tools available that allow you to > convert your Fractint images to PNG for posting on Web > sites. These can be viewed with any up to date version > of IE or Netscape. And here we go again! Welcome to a Windows only world! Of course, when PNG is actually standardized enough to work right, it's a good replacement for GIF. But I've been to too many sites where the PNGs won't display in such up-to-date browser versions as Netscape Communicator 4.61. Personally, I expect that when Unisys tries to enforce their patent on GIF, they'll be blown out of the water by the first contestant who walks in with an attorney and points out that they have been essentially refusing to enforce it for so long now that they have basically said people can use it for free. Hmmmpph. David May only friendly green things find your doorstep! Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: (fractint) Popcorn inconsistency Date: 13 Sep 1999 17:58:44 +1200 I hesitate to call this a bug, maybe more of a miswart. When using the evolver on the Popcorn type, the spawned variants are not clipped to fit their boxes, spilling out instead to overlap each other. On a hunch, I looked at a popcorn fractal through a iewwindow, and saw the same nonclipping there. It's noticeable only because other dynamic-like types (dynamic, mandelcloud, latoocarfian, bifurcation etc.) don't do this. I've just checked an old version 18.2 which I recalled I had knocking around; the same thing happens there. As no-one has apparently noticed it before (or at least considered it worth reporting), it's clearly something that is of _very_ minor importance - only the evolver makes it readily apparent. Morgan "And when are we going to run user formulae as dynamic orbits?" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Jones" Subject: (fractint) Fr20: Problem with DiskVideo? Date: 12 Sep 1999 22:43:17 -1000 Using Fractint 20. Just generated what was supposed to be a 2048x1536x256 color image using DiskVideo. (The Evolver is fun, even at 640x480!) After the image completed, I saved it using the "S" option, and opened the image in CorelPhotoPaint 7 so I could see it. (Fractint 20 still doesn't support my Elsa GLoria Synergy for better than 640x480x256. Even tried Makefcfg on it - gives me 640x400x256 or 640x480x256.) PhotoPaint reports an image size of 1000x750 pixels. I'm running it under W95 on a system with 128MB RAM. Even after I kicked the expanded and extended memory settings up to 16MB, it won't produce an image larger than that. Why can't I get my big image? Another blast of bits from David http://home.hawaii.rr.com/aliasjj/ http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: http://www.surfreporthawaii.com Random Thought for this Nanosecond If it's a flock of birds, is it a batch of programmers? (D.Jones) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest 99 Date: 13 Sep 1999 09:04:14 -0500 Bud, - P.S.: any rumors on the FA'99 contest unveiling? ( ;;-) nudge nudge) Yes, rumor has it that the entry database is fully verified and 1200+ web pages have been built, what remains are the voting forms which I'm not going to be able to work on until this evening. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Jemison Subject: (fractint) Fr20: Problem with DiskVideo? Date: 13 Sep 1999 10:21:19 -0400 David, Sorry, there must be something strange about either your system or your viewer- or possibly you were attempting to view the wrong image? I just ran the basic mandelbrot in diskvideo 2048x1536x256 and viewed it with CPIC as well as photoshop, and it displayed fine and at the correct size. I have done diskvideo sizes to 16,000x12,000x256 in ver. 20 with no problems. Try again? Bill Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Jemison Subject: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver Date: 13 Sep 1999 10:21:18 -0400 Bill, << So far the Sound function doesn't work either, although I do get a <<'beep' after a fractal is finished loading, so the sound card seems to= be < Subject: Re: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver Date: 13 Sep 1999 11:11:17 -0400 Thanks, I ran the demo and the visual portion worked fine - but no sound until the point at which BOTH the pc internal speaker and sound card were turned on. Then I heard those anemic beeps - so you were right, it was the internal speaker. I am running Windows 95 but boot up to DOS for Fractint since Fractint (versions 19.3, 19.6, 20.0) does not work under Windows on my machine. I did run a music CD after the demo and it worked fine, so the sound card is functioning. I have a 200mhz Pentium with 64megs Ram and 2 megs Video ram. I guess the sound function just cannot work on my system. Thanks again for your suggestion. Bill Ray Bill Jemison wrote: > Bill, > > << So far the Sound function doesn't work either, although I do get a > <<'beep' after a fractal is finished loading, so the sound card seems to > be > < > The beep you hear is most likely coming from your PC speaker, and not your > sound card. This is the default behavior. > > Before going any further, have you run the sound demo? Run demo.bat, and > choose the version 20 sound demo, and let me know what happens. Also, are > you running any version of Windows? > > Bill > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Jemison Subject: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver Date: 13 Sep 1999 12:33:08 -0400 Bill, when you ran the CD (which played) were you in W95? It sounds like yo= ur DOS drivers for your sound card might not be loaded. You can try to run Fractint through W95 and use a diskvideo mode - which allows sound as well. Could you try that? after starting Fractint, ask fo= r a diskvideo mode, and <@> and load the frac200.par, which contains several sound pars...some use both the PC speaker and the soundcard, othe= rs only the soundcard. What is your soundcard, and, if you know, what synth chip does it have? Most soundblaster compatibles have the OPL-3 synth chip, which is what th= e sound features in Fractint are written for. With other synths, YMMV. Bill Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: comdotatdotcom@csi.com Subject: RE: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver Date: 13 Sep 1999 19:25 0000 Hi Bill, >when you ran the CD (which played) were you in W95? It sounds >like your >DOS drivers for your sound card might not be loaded. Then again if there are no drivers loaded then fractint *should* give an error message rather than just staying silent. To see for sure just type 'set' from your dos prompt and see if resulting techno-babble includes the line: BLASTER= Axxx Ix and so on where xxx are numbers. If you see this then the most likely problem is one of your sound card's mixer settings, look through the documentation for the name of the program you need to run in order to control the mix of the various sources within your card (i.e. cd, wave, synth, auxilliary etc) it may simply be that the FM output is turned down. If it's not that then tell me what you get on the BLASTER= line above. >You can try to run Fractint through W95 and use a diskvideo mode - That's a very good diagnostic idea! try it as Bill says, if it works then there are other tips for getting fractint running under W95 about. It works fine under win95 for me (I have a matrox video card). Good luck! Robin. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ricardo M. Forno" Subject: RE: (fractint) Bug in the evolver Date: 13 Sep 1999 16:00:33 -0300 Tim: I got the following problem with the evolver. I started with 2 to select a par. Notice that the par used fn*z+z fractal type. Then I entered the evolver by means of Alt-5. Once the thumbnails where displayed, I typed Ctrl-E to change "yes" to "no" in order to see the image, without having moved to some other thumbnail. The image was totally changed, but when typing z, the parameters strangely were the same as the initial ones! Please note that this behavior seems not to occur with the standard Mandelbrot. Anyhow, I am completey fascinated with this feature! Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil McRevis Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 13 Sep 1999 14:06:07 -0600 In article <043bf1743060d99XMAIL@smtp2.hawaii.rr.com>, "David Jones" writes: > Of course, when PNG is actually standardized enough to > work right, it's a good replacement for GIF. PNG has been standardized for a long time now. Any problems you're experiencing have nothing to do with the 'standardization of PNG'. > But I've > been to too many sites where the PNGs won't display in > such up-to-date browser versions as Netscape Communicator > 4.61. Either people are writing home-brew PNG files (which is not to imply that PNG isn't standard, but perhaps that programs out there are generating non-standard PNGs) or the browser software hasn't been written to accomodate standard PNGs. -- Legalize Adulthood! ``Ain't it funny that they all fire the pistol, at the wrong end of the race?''--PDBT legalize@xmission.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Jemison Subject: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver Date: 13 Sep 1999 16:17:19 -0400 Hi Robin, Sorry. I didn't realize that you had built in the error message! That's nice to know. FWIW, one of the reasons that I like to use diskvideo mode for playing music pars is that since diskvideo will run in a window, it gives me acce= ss to the windows desktop for adjustments to the mixer controls, FX, etc. while listening to the par and the effects of the various controls, etc. = on the sound. Real-time sound manipulation has to be done this way afik. Bill Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marie Drozdis" Subject: (fractint) Version 20 Date: 13 Sep 1999 14:19:50 -0700 I finally have a day to unzip my new version and put it through its paces. Thanks, all who worked on it. Reading the messages posted here has increased the anticipation and even renewed the interest (or should I say obsession?) I have with my fractals. I hope there's an increase in pars posted. Now.. to the Evolver Marie Drozdis Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: comdotatdotcom@csi.com Subject: (fractint) RE: Bug in the evolver Date: 13 Sep 1999 23:08 0000 Hi Ricardo, >Once the thumbnails where displayed, I typed Ctrl-E to change "yes" >to "no" in order to see the image, BTW, 'b' works as a shortcut for this whilst in the evolver. >without having moved to some other thumbnail. Hmmmm.. does the same happen if you move to another and then back again? >The image was totally changed, but when typing z, the parameters >strangely were the same as the initial ones! Now that is very bizzare, though you should also check the x screen to see that some radically different inside or outside colouring method hasn't been selected. If you can make this happen consistantly then it would help me sort things out if you could mail me a par for the starting image or if you hit S just after the first set of images is generated and then mail me the file that was saved. Cheers, Robin. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Version 20 Date: 13 Sep 1999 20:14:08 -0400 Re: Fractint 20 and the evolver, I have only one thing to say: "Whooooweeee!!!!!!!!!!" davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spatzy2325@aol.com Subject: (fractint) Fractint Book? Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:22:01 EDT To whom it may concern, Does anyone plan on putting out a new book with the new version of Fractint? Last time I checked the last Fractint book was out of date. Regards, Ryan Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wayne Kiely" Subject: (fractint) V.20 Date: 14 Sep 1999 11:02:32 +0930 Hi all. Haven't had a chance to download the new version yet but... many thanks to those who have doubtless spent many hours for the rest of us to enjoy. It is much appreciated. Regards, Wayne Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Book? Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:37:08 -0600 Ryan asked: > Does anyone plan on putting out a new book with the new version of > Fractint? Last time I checked the last Fractint book was out of date. The nature of the book market at present makes a Fractint book project infeasible. If Fractint were an up-to-date Win98/Win2000 package with lots of Web features built in, so that the book could tie into the latest hot stuff, it might be marginally feasible. A topic that might sell would be "Web Windows 2000 Fractals For Dummies and Idiots" Noooo thanks! If you doubt me, I *do* speak with some experience as an author of five books :-) Not that "past performance is any indicator of future results". You are right that the fractint books are out of date, although Fractal Creations 2nd Edition is still a very nice book for Fractint users if you can get your hands on it. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Popcorn inconsistency Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:37:08 -0600 Morgan wrote: > I hesitate to call this a bug, maybe more of a miswart. > > When using the evolver on the Popcorn type, the spawned variants are not > clipped to fit their boxes Someone else mentioned this. The popocorn type is absolutely unique in the way it works, and the folks who worked on it (Robin Bussell and Jonathan Osuch get the credit) understandably didn't think to check popcorn. My guess is that this is very easy to fix. We'll look into it. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:37:07 -0600 David wrote: > > Meanwhile, there are tools available that allow you to > > convert your Fractint images to PNG for posting on Web > > sites. These can be viewed with any up to date version > > of IE or Netscape. > > And here we go again! Welcome to a Windows only world! Duhhh ... where did I use the word "Windows?" PNG tools are available for all platforms. > Of course, when PNG is actually standardized enough to > work right, it's a good replacement for GIF. But I've > been to too many sites where the PNGs won't display in > such up-to-date browser versions as Netscape Communicator > 4.61. The problem is that Netscape Communicator has a poor PNG reading implementation. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: (fractint) v20.0 Date: 13 Sep 1999 20:09:44 -0700 comment { ramblings by Mark "Bud" Christenson 9/13/99 [NOTE: This message can be saved as a text file and accessed by Fractint v19.6 and above without modification, *but* I forgot if it should be a par or a frm. It has been quite a while since I posted.] As promised, a couple of examples of what evolver can do. Of course, you can come to the same solution without the automated help, but for most, especially novices, this will be a real time saver. For reference, I used random mode (just because it's easier than the x/y mode in its current state) on one complex parameter at a time, with limits (typically) starting at 1 and with a slow convergence factor of 0.9 (1.0 if I wasn't ready to converge yet). Here's the first pair: } g608-1y { ; vaguely vaginal - (c) 10/13/98 Mark "Bud" Christenson ; de g608-1p /f2 reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=conj/tanh/cosxx passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.75/1.3333 params=3/-0.9/2/-1/0.3/0 float=y maxiter=300 inside=60 outside=atan decomp=142 periodicity=0 viewwindows=2/1/yes/0/0 cyclerange=1/128 sound=off colors=000bgobgpagr<3>hlujnvlpw<3>tvyvwyxyzzzz<25>`C`_A_Z8Z<2>W2WV0VU0U<\ 8>L0LK0KJ0J<2>G0GF0FG1F<40>tr`us`vua<3>zzc<2>zsZzpYxpZ<3>pldmlfkkg<2>ehl\ cgmcgnzJC<3>z85z53z32z00<51>60050040030020000000000K<19>AATBBTBBU<4>EFVE\ GVFHV<3>HKXHKYILY<8>MQeNRfNRg<6>RXkSYlSZl<4>Xco } g608-5y { ; de gj08-1y /evol:pn- (c) 9/12/99 Mark "Bud" Christenson ; reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=conj/tanh/cosxx passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.75/1.3333 params=2.428948942533646/0.002276985992004183/3.717297585985901/0.730640\ 2783288064/0.3404527573473312/-0.002013992736594746 float=y maxiter=300 inside=60 outside=atan decomp=142 periodicity=0 viewwindows=2/1/yes/0/0 cyclerange=1/128 sound=off colors=000bgobgpagr<3>hlujnvlpw<3>tvyvwyxyzzzz<25>`C`_A_Z8Z<2>W2WV0VU0U<\ 8>L0LK0KJ0J<2>G0GF0FG1F<40>tr`us`vua<3>zzc<2>zsZzpYxpZ<3>pldmlfkkg<2>ehl\ cgmcgnzJC<3>z85z53z32z00<51>60050040030020000000000K<19>AATBBTBBU<4>EFVE\ GVFHV<3>HKXHKYILY<8>MQeNRfNRg<6>RXkSYlSZl<4>Xco } comment { While the second image lacks the sex appeal of its parent, it has a complex charm of its own. Here's the second pair: } g608-2r { ; de g608-1d /f3 - (c) 11/15/98 Mark "Bud" Christenson reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=ident/cotan/cabs passes=b center-mag=0/0/0.45/1.3333 params=3/-2/2/-1/0.3/0 float=y maxiter=300 inside=60 outside=atan decomp=256 periodicity=0 viewwindows=2/1/yes/0/0 cyclerange=0/255 sound=off colors=LK0<14>`60a50b40c30d20e10<4>o00q00r00<3>z00<5>o00m00k00i00g00<16>\ QFFPGGOHHNIIMJJKKK<22>fff<3>jjjlllnnn<2>sss<3>llljjjiii<19>QQQPPPOOO<2>L\ LLKKKKKL<9>BPWAQX9QY<3>5Ta4Ub3Vc<3>1Zi1_k1am<3>0gu0iv0jx0kz<3>0er0dq0bo<\ 3>0Yh0Xf1We<14>FNQGNPHMOIMNJLMKKK<15>`XLaYLbZLc_Ld`LeaLgbM<3>ohQqjRrlT<3\ >zsX<4>qjSoiRmgQkeP<23>KK0 } g608-5z { ; de g608-2r /evol:pn - (c) 9/12/99 Mark "Bud" Christenson reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=ident/cotan/cabs passes=b center-mag=0/0/0.45/1.3333 params=1.8/-1.02/3.46/-0.41/0.113/0.129 float=y maxiter=300 inside=60 outside=atan decomp=256 periodicity=0 viewwindows=2/1/yes/0/0 cyclerange=0/255 sound=off colors=LK0<14>`60a50b40c30d20e10<4>o00q00r00<3>z00<5>o00m00k00i00g00<16>\ QFFPGGOHHNIIMJJKKK<22>fff<3>jjjlllnnn<2>sss<3>llljjjiii<19>QQQPPPOOO<2>L\ LLKKKKKL<9>BPWAQX9QY<3>5Ta4Ub3Vc<3>1Zi1_k1am<3>0gu0iv0jx0kz<3>0er0dq0bo<\ 3>0Yh0Xf1We<14>FNQGNPHMOIMNJLMKKK<15>`XLaYLbZLc_Ld`LeaLgbM<3>ohQqjRrlT<3\ >zsX<4>qjSoiRmgQkeP<23>KK0 } comment { Admittedly, the initial image in the second case is a rather bland item I came across while flipping through functions looking for promising candidate Gallet-6-08 types; but the Evolver can take you from one interesting case to another as well. Navigating the possibilities is a bit slower than sitting at the console brute-forcing my way through, but the advantage is that you can do other things while Fractint does the work. I did both of these in 30-40 minutes, making selections between bites at dinner (something only a bachelor or someone with a very understanding or similarly addicted mate can get away with), watching the idiot box, folding laundry, etc. Finally, in case you have comitted the unforgivable sin of not having this wonderful frm in your posession, here it is: } frm:Gallet-6-08 { ; Sylvie Gallet, 1996 z = pixel , x = real(z) , y = imag(z) : x1 = x - p1*fn1(y + fn2(p2*x) / fn3(p3*y)) y1 = y - p1*fn1(x + fn2(p2*y) / fn3(p3*x)) x = x1 , y = y1 z = x + flip(y) |z| <= 1024 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) v20.0 Date: 13 Sep 1999 20:15:21 -0700 At 08:09 PM 9/13/99 -0700, I wrote: >... >I did both of these in 30-40 minutes, >... It should have read: >... >I did *each* of these in 30-40 minutes, >... I'll be damned if I can figure out why I find these things *after* proofreading rather than during... Aloha, Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Book? Date: 13 Sep 1999 20:53:32 -0700 Tim Wegner wrote: (snip) > You are right that the fractint books are out of date, although > Fractal Creations 2nd Edition is still a very nice book for Fractint > users if you can get your hands on it. > I think Fractal Creations is a nice book for anyone who is interested in fractals. I have and have read several books on fractals and the short early chapters gave the best description of the basics of orbits and bailout, Mandelbrot, Julia and Newton formulas etc. It really made some things clear that were fuzzy to me before. I think anyone who is new to fractals and wants to understand it would like it even aside from the Fractint specific parts. Kathy Roth Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Traynor" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Book? Date: 13 Sep 1999 23:56:16 -0400 Tim writes: > You are right that the fractint books are out of date, although > Fractal Creations 2nd Edition is still a very nice book for Fractint > users if you can get your hands on it. I can confirm that even someone who did not write the book can agree with this. It is especially the case, as being an awfully old computer book by now, if you can find it it should be pretty cheap. My copy was not cheap, but I sure don't regret the money spent. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Barnett Subject: RE: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver Date: 13 Sep 1999 16:46:46 -0400 I am running Win98 and run Fractint in a full screen DOS window. I had to play around a bit to get the sound card to work. The card came with some DOS utilities which must be loaded during boot up for the card to work with DOS programs. Wish I could save the output as a MIDI file, though. Here is a par (first one I have submitted for Fractint in a very long time :-)). The graphics resolution will affect the tune. Snowflakes { ; Ron Barnett, September 13, 1999 ; Fractint ver. 20.0 ; Compatible with most SB compatible cards (OPL-3 chip) reset=2000 type=julia passes=1 center-mag=-0.489022/0.120603/18.72675 params=-0.9/0.7 float=y maxiter=2000000000 bailoutest=real viewwindows=15/0.75/yes/0/0 hertz=10 sound=x/fm/quant polyphony=6 wavetype=4 scalemap=1/3/5/6/8/10/12/1/3/5/8/10 orbitdelay=1500 showorbit=yes colors=00000e0e00eee00e0eeL0eeeLLLLLzLzLLzzzLLzLzzzLzzz000555<3>HHHKKKOO\ O<3>ccchhhmmmssszzz00z<3>z0z<3>z00<3>zz0<3>0z0<3>0zz<2>0GzVVz<3>zVz<3>zV\ V<3>zzV<3>VzV<3>Vzz<2>Vbzhhz<3>zhz<3>zhh<3>zzh<3>hzh<3>hzz<2>hlz00S<3>S0\ S<3>S00<3>SS0<3>0S0<3>0SS<2>07SEES<3>SES<3>SEE<3>SSE<3>ESE<3>ESS<2>EHSKK\ S<2>QKSSKSSKQSKOSKMSKK<2>SQKSSKQSKOSKMSKKSK<2>KSQKSSKQSKOSKMS00G<3>G0G<3\ >G00<3>GG0<3>0G0<3>0GG<2>04G88G<2>E8GG8GG8EG8CG8AG88<2>GE8GG8EG8CG8AG88G\ 8<2>8GE8GG8EG8CG8AGBBG<2>FBGGBGGBFGBDGBCGBB<2>GFBGGBFGBDGBCGBBGB<2>BGFBG\ GBFGBDGBCG000<6>000 } -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 11:11 Thanks, I ran the demo and the visual portion worked fine - but no sound until the point at which BOTH the pc internal speaker and sound card were turned on. Then I heard those anemic beeps - so you were right, it was the internal speaker. I am running Windows 95 but boot up to DOS for Fractint since Fractint (versions 19.3, 19.6, 20.0) does not work under Windows on my machine. I did run a music CD after the demo and it worked fine, so the sound card is functioning. I have a 200mhz Pentium with 64megs Ram and 2 megs Video ram. I guess the sound function just cannot work on my system. Thanks again for your suggestion. Bill Ray Bill Jemison wrote: > Bill, > > << So far the Sound function doesn't work either, although I do get a > <<'beep' after a fractal is finished loading, so the sound card seems to > be > < > The beep you hear is most likely coming from your PC speaker, and not your > sound card. This is the default behavior. > > Before going any further, have you run the sound demo? Run demo.bat, and > choose the version 20 sound demo, and let me know what happens. Also, are > you running any version of Windows? > > Bill > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marie Drozdis" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Book? Date: 14 Sep 1999 00:09:48 -0700 When I put out a search for the book, after months of looking, Amazon.com found it for me.... for $52! One of the nice folks here learned that I was looking for a copy and when he found one, let me know where to get it at less than the original cost. Now that I have it, it doesn't leave my ownership Marie Drozdis ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 8:56 PM > Tim writes: > > > You are right that the fractint books are out of date, although > > Fractal Creations 2nd Edition is still a very nice book for Fractint > > users if you can get your hands on it. > > I can confirm that even someone who did not write the book can agree > with this. It is especially the case, as being an awfully old computer book > by now, if you can find it it should be pretty cheap. My copy was not cheap, > but I sure don't regret the money spent. > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Book? Date: 13 Sep 1999 23:20:29 -0500 Marie Drozdis wrote: > > When I put out a search for the book, after months of looking, Amazon.com > found it for me.... for $52! > It's too bad Tim Wegner and Bert Tyler won't reap any part of the profits from that sale. :-D The original price for the 2nd edition of Fractal Creations was $34.95, but I bought mine at Barnes & Noble back then for a small discount. Still a great FractInt reference book to this day. HAND, Bob Margolis Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William S. Morton" Subject: (fractint) w98 screw ups Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:27:30 -0700 I run Fractint2.0 under w98. (one of these days I'll brave DOS.) If I enter just ONE false command, (ie. g or v on the keyboard) the program freezes. (ADK2 proccessor, 64 ram,...SF7 video mode) HOWEVER...When this program `partially' glitches, I get a linear 3-split view of :... 1) (upper third) 0--1--3 pattern of current fractal, 2)(mid-screen to one inch above bottom) black screen,; (and here's the kicker, 3)(last inch of screen) a virtual blue needlepoint pattern of the extremes of a window titlebar, with the `minimize/enlarge/close' boxes on the left (in reversed order) , and a beautiful sewwing pattern of the word FRACTINT on the right! I was able to hit s and save this kodak moment. This is my background till something weirder replaces it! Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William S. Morton" Subject: Re: (fractint) v20.0 Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:33:04 -0700 You aren't the same Mark who worked in animation in LA all those years ago, are you? Sarge Morton Mark Christenson wrote: > At 08:09 PM 9/13/99 -0700, I wrote: > > >... > >I did both of these in 30-40 minutes, > >... > > It should have read: > > >... > >I did *each* of these in 30-40 minutes, > >... > > I'll be damned if I can figure out why I find these things > *after* proofreading rather than during... > > Aloha, Bud > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William S. Morton" Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:34:36 -0700 Is Netscape somehow connected with Unisys? Tim Wegner wrote: > David wrote: > > > > Meanwhile, there are tools available that allow you to > > > convert your Fractint images to PNG for posting on Web > > > sites. These can be viewed with any up to date version > > > of IE or Netscape. > > > > And here we go again! Welcome to a Windows only world! > > Duhhh ... where did I use the word "Windows?" PNG tools are > available for all platforms. > > > Of course, when PNG is actually standardized enough to > > work right, it's a good replacement for GIF. But I've > > been to too many sites where the PNGs won't display in > > such up-to-date browser versions as Netscape Communicator > > 4.61. > > The problem is that Netscape Communicator has a poor PNG > reading implementation. > > Tim > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William S. Morton" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Book? Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:40:53 -0700 What, me worry? Are you worried that some producer in LA or some ad accountant in NY are actually going to figure out how to write fractal parameters? They can sell them, but they can't write them. I should know. I work in TV, and I can't figure squat shit about them! Keep up the good work!!! Tim Wegner wrote: > Ryan asked: > > > Does anyone plan on putting out a new book with the new version of > > Fractint? Last time I checked the last Fractint book was out of date. > > The nature of the book market at present makes a Fractint book > project infeasible. If Fractint were an up-to-date Win98/Win2000 > package with lots of Web features built in, so that the book could > tie into the latest hot stuff, it might be marginally feasible. > > A topic that might sell would be "Web Windows 2000 Fractals For > Dummies and Idiots" > > Noooo thanks! If you doubt me, I *do* speak with some experience > as an author of five books :-) Not that "past performance is any > indicator of future results". > > You are right that the fractint books are out of date, although > Fractal Creations 2nd Edition is still a very nice book for Fractint > users if you can get your hands on it. > > Tim > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 14 Sep 1999 18:02:36 +1200 At 22:35 12/09/1999 +0100, Ian wrote: > > If you use an application to generate them dated pre 1994 then you are free >of any charges .I was assured some time ago that the Unysis LZW patent does not cover >GIF images made outside the USA. My GIF images are generated with software >written and sold in the UK. > I'm no lawyer, thank Ralf, but as I understood the affair, Unisys was extracting patent fees from the authors of GIF _software_, not GIF image files. Otherwise one could have the analogous situation of a novelist being hounded for money by the writers of his word processing software (Microsoft please do not take note). Secondly, Unisys's demands are directed at the writers of for-profit GIF software, so Fractint appears to be safe anyway. Thirdly, PNG is the better format anyway. The fact that it can even contain palette-based images (PNG type 3) is an added bonus that ought to encourage a migration away from GIF. Morgan. "Little grey men" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fr20: Problem with DiskVideo? Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:21:44 -1000 On 13 Sep 99 at 10:21, Bill Jemison wrote: > Sorry, there must be something strange about either your > system System: Original retail release W95 running on an AMDk6-2/30 with 128MB Ram and about 10GB of disk space. Running on an Elsa GLoria Synergy display adaptor with 8MB of VRAM. FWIW, there's aparently no VESA support beyond 640x480x256. If only either the freeware W31 fractal program I have was more powerful, or UltraFractal was free ... > or your viewer Same viewer(s) that I've used for years - CorelPhotoPaint 7. I haven't checked them in PaintShop Pro or PMView, but I've never encountered the problem with images from Fractint 19.6 at up to 2048x2048x256. > or possibly you were attempting to view the wrong > image? Well, I tried it with six different images. Every single one came out that way. > I just ran the basic mandelbrot in diskvideo > 2048x1536x256 and viewed it with CPIC as well as > photoshop, and it displayed fine and at the correct > size. Well, mine displayed, but it was not the 2048x1536x256 that I specified in Fractint 20. My system is set to a 1024x768 desktop, and the image (displayed full screen at 1:1 size) was smaller than both dimensions). > I have done diskvideo sizes to 16,000x12,000x256 in ver. > 20 with no problems. Really???? Sounds like something to play with! That's, what, a file size of 6,144,000,000 bytes? ;-) > Try again? Sure. I do like the Evolver. That is really cool! Just tried it now using the basic Mandelbrot. It worked. Now lets try some other things ... And now it's working. Don't ask me! The only thing I remember changing was kicking both EMS and XMS settings up to 16384KB, but either one is far larger than what the image would need ... Anyway, thanks to Tim and the Stone Soup Group for adding more fun things to play with! Hurrah! Another blast of bits from David http://home.hawaii.rr.com/aliasjj/ http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: http://www.surfreporthawaii.com Random Thought for this Nanosecond Well, time for another mid-life crisis! (D.Jones) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) w98 screw ups Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:21:44 -1000 Ummm, try setting "textsave=text" wherever it's supposed to be set - sorry, I don't remember. THat might fix it. Then again, it might not. On our old Diamond Stealth 64 Series 2000, all Fractint and W9x did was freeze the system. (Fortunately, it works fine under OS/2.) The problem didn't disappear until we replaced the display adaptor. On 13 Sep 99 at 21:27, William S. Morton wrote: > I run Fractint2.0 under w98. (one of these days I'll > brave DOS.) If I enter just ONE false command, (ie. g or > v on the keyboard) the program freezes. (ADK2 > proccessor, 64 ram,...SF7 video mode) HOWEVER...When > this program `partially' glitches, I get a linear > 3-split view of :... 1) (upper third) 0--1--3 pattern of > current fractal, 2)(mid-screen to one inch above bottom) > black screen,; (and here's the kicker, 3)(last inch of > screen) a virtual blue needlepoint pattern of the > extremes of a window titlebar, with the > `minimize/enlarge/close' boxes on the left (in reversed > order) , and a beautiful sewwing pattern of the word > FRACTINT on the right! I was able to hit s and save this > kodak moment. This is my background till something > weirder replaces it! Another blast of bits from David http://home.hawaii.rr.com/aliasjj/ http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: http://www.surfreporthawaii.com Random Thought for this Nanosecond Needling him, the seamstress said, 'Ahem.' (D.Jones) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Terry Erickson" Subject: Re: (fractint) hey Date: 14 Sep 1999 01:21:57 -0700 good goood goood Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) w98 screw ups Date: 14 Sep 1999 05:06:52 -0400 At 09:21 PM 9/13/1999 -1000, you wrote: >Ummm, try setting "textsave=text" wherever it's supposed >to be set - sorry, I don't remember. THat might fix it. sstools.ini davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Jemison Subject: (fractint) Fr20: Problem with DiskVideo? Date: 14 Sep 1999 10:25:59 -0400 <<> I have done diskvideo sizes to 16,000x12,000x256 in ver. <<> 20 with no problems. < Subject: (fractint) Fr20: Problem with DiskVideo? Date: 14 Sep 1999 11:02:03 -0400 > <<> I have done diskvideo sizes to 16,000x12,000x256 in ver. ><<> 20 with no problems. > < < Right around 5.5gig. OOOPS! make that 5.5 *meg* Sorry. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marie Drozdis" Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint Book? Date: 14 Sep 1999 11:22:13 -0700 But they did, it was second-hand. The amazon.com book was second-hand, too, and it was minus the CD. They wanted $52. Your incorrect assumption was understandable, though. Anyone who was online here with me 'way back then' knew that I had given away my original, which I purchased, with the expectation that it would be easy for me to replace it. NOT! Marie :) -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Bob Margolis Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 9:20 PM Marie Drozdis wrote: > > When I put out a search for the book, after months of looking, Amazon.com > found it for me.... for $52! > It's too bad Tim Wegner and Bert Tyler won't reap any part of the profits from that sale. :-D The original price for the 2nd edition of Fractal Creations was $34.95, but I bought mine at Barnes & Noble back then for a small discount. Still a great FractInt reference book to this day. HAND, Bob Margolis Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoWeber Subject: (fractint) evolver-pars 1 Date: 14 Sep 1999 19:22:19 -0400 Hi All, I explored the Carr-frm with the evolver. Got 120 images. 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Modified OK-42 ;passes=3D1 needs to be used with this PHC formula. b5=3Dpixel, p1x=3Dreal(p1)+1,p1y=3Dimag(p1)+1, p2x=3Dreal(p2)+1,p2y=3Dimag(p2)+1 z=3Dwhitesq*sqr(b5)-(whitesq=3D=3D0)*conj(b5): zx=3Dreal(z),zy=3Dimag(z), x=3Dfn1(zx*p1x-zy*p1y)+fn2(zx*p2x-zy*p2y), y=3Dfn3(zx*p1y+zy*p1x)+fn4(zx*p2y+zy*p2x), z=3Dx+flip(y), |z|<=3D4 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: (fractint) popcorn and evolver issue solved! Date: 14 Sep 1999 18:53:41 -0600 Turners out that type=popcorn spilling out over the evolver postage stamps is a feature not a bug :-) The popcorn fractal uses the same routine fot its plotting as is used for plotting orbits, except that it turns off restoring the screen. This routine clips pixels to the physical screen but not the(smaller) virtual screen. Normally the physical and virtual screen are the same. The two cases where they are different, and the virtual screen is smaller, are viewwindows and the evolver. No one has ever complained, but type=popcorn also spills outside a viewwindows screen (try it). The evolver and viewwindows create small virtual screens in exactly the same way. So this is a "feature" because it is on purpose. :-) Bill Jemison, our sound wizard, has created a lot of music with fractint using viewwindows, and he *counts* on having orbits spill outside of the viewwindows frame. However I doubt Bill cares about this for the evolver since I doubt he'll use the evolver for music. (But you never know.) There are two cures. One is to clip the orbits to the virtual screen, bit only when the evolver is on (very easy). This is probably a perfectly good solution, but I think it goes against (modulating voice to a hushed reverent tone) "The Stone Soup Philosophy", which is to give the user as much (possibly absurd) freedom as possible. Somebody might LIKE evolving popcorn fractals and having them spill over the postage stamp boundaries! SO I propose a new option, something like "cliporbit=" which would default to "no" ( the present behavior). If set to "yes" it would constrain both popcorn and orbits to stay within the prescribed virtual screen pixel limits. Comments? Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Book? Date: 14 Sep 1999 21:27:47 -0500 Marie Drozdis wrote: > > > Anyone who was online here with me 'way back then' knew that I had given > away my original, which I purchased, with the expectation that it would be > easy for me to replace it. NOT! > I would use Amazon.com and Barnes&Noble.com to find out-of-print books for me only as a last resort. There are many used-book dealers on the net now. The biggest and maybe the best of them is Powell's in Portland, Ore., http.//www.powells.com , in case any of you want to buy a used copy of Tim's Fractal Creations book. The 2nd edition came with a compact disk, a 3.5 inch diskette with FractInt V. 18.21, and a pair of 3D glasses to view 3D fractals. Inquire if those items are with the book before you elect whether to buy it. Bob Margolis rttyman@wwa.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Book? Date: 14 Sep 1999 21:41:45 -0500 Bob Margolis wrote: http.//www.powells.com when he meant to type http://www.powells.com in his last message to the list. Sorry, folks. Bob "Gnarled Fingers" Margolis Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: (fractint) Contest '99 Update Date: 14 Sep 1999 22:55:25 -0500 Greetings folks, As my weary eyes beg for a respite from their labor, I summon the last vestiges of energy and write these words, to let you, gentle reader, know the status of our long-awaited contest web site. I am very nearly finished. The hardest part--which I did not have time to do before the entry deadline had passed, and did not expect to take as long as it has--is now done. That part is the voting mechanism. Last year, it was not very convenient to vote, it was cumbersome and you had to write down archaic entry numbers and enter them into the appropriate blanks, and if you didn't fill the entire form out in one sitting you had to start over later. This year things will be different. When you view the entries in a category, you will see thumbnails of all the images. Click one, and you will get a full-size view. Once you have that full-size view, you will be able to move from one full-size image to the next (you won't have to go back to the thumbs page) and more importantly, you will be able to MARK images you like, and the marks will be remembered. You can of course unmark images as well. When you open up the voting form, you will find that your marked images are listed right at the top. Choose one and you'll see a thumbnail of it; click the thumbnail and you'll get a new window with the full-size image. This will make it very easy for you to get the entry numbers of the images you liked. But that isn't all. When you fill in your votes for first, second, and third place in a category, you will see thumbnails for those, too, which you can click to get full-size images. AND you will have a convenient place to add your comments, right next to each image. If you enter a number that doesn't belong to the category you're putting it in, you'll be reminded right away. But that's not the best part. The best part is that if you close the voting form and re-open it later, it will *remember* everything you've put in it (if your browser has cookies enabled). Every voted image, every marked picture, every word of your comments will be recorded on your system, so that you won't have to do it all over again if you accidentally close your browser--or if you can't finish it all in one sitting. It is the programming of all this magic that has deprived me of sleep these past few days. I also discovered tonight that where I thought the contest entries would only require 1200 separate web pages, it turns out they will need 2400. So I have built all of those, too. I expect to be able to finish up tomorrow (there are only a few miscellaneous pages to do) and get everything posted. Don't all rush to the web site, I'll post a notice here tomorrow when I do have everything done. But I just wanted to let you know where things stand. I'll post information on ordering CDs tomorrow, too. One last thing: because of the extremely long time it has taken to get the entries posted, voting will be extended *two weeks*. You will have through October 9 to view images and send in your votes. This should provide enough time for everyone to browse or download the web site, or order a CD if they are so inclined. And now, I'm going home to sleep. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David J. Dollevoet" Subject: (fractint) Fractint v 20.0 Date: 15 Sep 1999 00:20:02 -0500 --------------BB2E3C0896E7632299E639C3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To Timothy Wegner, Jonathan Osuch, George Martin, Robin Bussell, et al: Thank-you for Fractint V 20.0. The "New Features of 20.0" section of Fractint.doc lists 65 items, some with multiple features. It will take me quite a while to try each. My enthusiasm, however, will not allow me to delay acknowledgement. The video mode configuration program Makefcfg.exe accurately configured Fractint.cfg for my Matrox Millenium G200 video card. The parser speed-up (Chuck Ebbert) is very welcome. A quick survey: Fractal V 19.6 V 20.0 Ratio ------- ------ ------ ----- _BI0-00 2'50" 2'20" 82% _BP0-04 4'14" 3'37" 85% _AH0-00 4'23" 3'24" 78% _AG0-00 5'57" 4'55" 83% _AA1-00 8'28" 7'44" 91% _AA1-04 11'37" 10'42" 92% Coloring option "Inside = atan" was just what I needed to finish an image. In writing parameter files, the "maximum line length" field will make it convenient to include parameter files in e-mail text. The new 32767x32767 pixels limit for images will be a significant enhancement for quality, large prints. To Fractint.cfg, I added some higher resolution Disk Video lines, following the layout of the others. Results: Fractal _BI0-00 at 1600x1200 (1,920,000) pixels in 2'26" and at 3200x2400 (7,680,000) pixels in 9'40". The 3200x2400 pixels image looked fine in MS Photo Editor. I am in training with Fractal Evolver (Robin Bussell). What potential! I appreciate the documentation. Thanks again, David Dollevoet --------------BB2E3C0896E7632299E639C3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To Timothy Wegner, Jonathan Osuch, George Martin, Robin Bussell, et al:  Thank-you for Fractint V 20.0.

The "New Features of 20.0" section of Fractint.doc lists 65 items, some with multiple features.  It will take me quite a while to try each.  My enthusiasm, however, will not allow me to delay acknowledgement.

The video mode configuration program Makefcfg.exe accurately configured Fractint.cfg for my Matrox Millenium G200 video card.

The parser speed-up (Chuck Ebbert) is very welcome.  A quick survey:
Fractal  V 19.6  V 20.0  Ratio
-------  ------  ------  -----
_BI0-00   2'50"   2'20"   82%
_BP0-04   4'14"   3'37"   85%
_AH0-00   4'23"   3'24"   78%
_AG0-00   5'57"   4'55"   83%
_AA1-00   8'28"   7'44"   91%
_AA1-04  11'37"  10'42"   92%

Coloring option "Inside = atan" was just what I needed to finish an image.

In writing parameter files, the "maximum line length" field will make it convenient to include parameter files in e-mail text.

The new 32767x32767 pixels limit for images will be a significant enhancement for quality, large prints.  To Fractint.cfg, I added some higher resolution Disk Video lines, following the layout of the others.  Results:  Fractal _BI0-00 at 1600x1200 (1,920,000) pixels in 2'26" and at 3200x2400 (7,680,000) pixels in 9'40".  The 3200x2400 pixels image looked fine in MS Photo Editor.

I am in training with Fractal Evolver (Robin Bussell).  What potential!  I appreciate the documentation.

Thanks again,

David Dollevoet --------------BB2E3C0896E7632299E639C3-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: (fractint) popcorn and evolver issue solved! Date: 15 Sep 1999 20:12:41 +1200 At 18:53 14/09/1999 -0600, Tim wrote: > Bill Jemison, our >sound wizard, has created a lot of music with fractint using >viewwindows, and he *counts* on having orbits spill outside of the >viewwindows frame. > So, it is a miswart after all - something that superficially appears to be a bug, but turned out to be the "right thing" all along. Morgan "It's not like it's _important_ or anything..." Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: (fractint) Is it my sound card or... Date: 15 Sep 1999 20:11:53 +1200 Would someone be able to confirm the following behaviour for me, so's I can tell if it's a general problem or if it's my own sound card that's at fault? Trying out the sound demos in Fract200.par, I was playing Sylvie Gallet's music_5. In order to see the orbit, I changed colour maps. On returning to the run, the previously stacatto notes had noticeably lengthened. I found that any pausing of the trace resulted in this lengthening on resumption. Of the other sound demos in fract200.par, the only other which behaves like this is music_6. It seems significant that these are the only two pars in the file that don't have a "srelease" entry. After a bit more tinkering I find that the only time the release parameter affects the sound output is when it's contained in a par "srelease" entry, and then only if nothing interrupts. Otherwise it sounds as if it's stuck on 15. So, has anyone else experienced this, or will I have to fiddle with things I know nothing about? :-) Morgan L. Owens "Oh and the output seems unnaturally quiet, too." Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Randall Britten Subject: (fractint) XFractint 310 colour maps Date: 15 Sep 1999 10:58:37 +0200 Running on Redhat 6.0, using fvwm or KDE, xfractint starts with a blue to black graded colour map. On 304 I used to simple press e, then enter, then l, then choose "default.map" or some other map, and proceed happily. Trying the same thing on 310 doesn't work, the map remains unchanged. Anyone got some help for me? Randall Britten Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John P" Subject: Re: (fractint) XFractint 310 colour maps Date: 15 Sep 1999 02:16:52 PDT I have the same issue with my system, Running Enlightenment on Redhat 5.2 with AX5.0 as my xserver. I think it has to do with the fact you're using 16 or 24 bit color (maybe you're not so I would be wrong then), at any rate, it would be nice to emulate a palette so one could generate 8 bit color fractals on their 24 bit screen. Maybe an error with loading a map in the newer version. >Running on Redhat 6.0, using fvwm or KDE, xfractint starts with a blue to >black graded colour map. On 304 I used to simple press e, then enter, then >l, then choose "default.map" or some other map, and proceed happily. >Trying >the same thing on 310 doesn't work, the map remains unchanged. > >Anyone got some help for me? > >------------------------------ >Randall Britten ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kanak" Subject: R: (fractint) Contest '99 Update Date: 15 Sep 1999 12:58:16 +0200 good night, we all love you ... kanak Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marie Drozdis" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Book? Date: 15 Sep 1999 09:09:16 -0700 Thanks for the messages. Those who are not familiar with all the sources for finding used books can benefit from it. Powells was unable to help me. I actually never heard from them again later, even when they weren't able to help me. I had heard very many good things about them, but I found them less responsive than the others. Fractal Creations is a good 'cookbook' for anyone, especially those just discovering Fractint. It can be overwhelming at first, until you learn to peel off the layers and find all the goodies lurking within. The book can make it simple as well as satisfy those who are more adept with the program; I wish it were still in print. Meanwhile, I am trying out Fractint v20, and discovering its many good features. I am still entranced by the music and the evolver. Marie :) ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 7:27 PM >>There are many used-book dealers on the net now. The > biggest and maybe the best of them is Powell's in Portland, Ore., > http.//www.powells.com , in case any of you want to buy a used copy of Tim's > Fractal Creations book. The 2nd edition came with a compact disk, a 3.5 inch > diskette with FractInt V. 18.21, and a pair of 3D glasses to view 3D fractals. > Inquire if those items are with the book before you elect whether to buy it. > > Bob Margolis > rttyman@wwa.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: (fractint) 4 pars Date: 15 Sep 1999 09:45:56 -0400 A bit of explanation first: ds36 has a slight modification to wizz1015 color map. It is from Celtic Julia (Paul Carlson), using evolver + a zoom. ds38 has a slight modification to wizz1016 color map. ds39 has a slight modification to Lindaa12 color map and is a result of an evolver change from ds 38. ds40 is a result of a mistake; ran evolver from a previous fractal, located the one I wanted, stuck the box on it, and hit "enter" instead of "B". Let that run and picked out this image as a sample of numerous good ones. ============================================================================ ds36 { ; (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 15, 1999 t= 0:00:38.84 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_c.frm formulaname=Celtic_Julia passes=1 center-mag=-0.477027/0.485013/4.901994/1/-42.499 params=0.7043490401928769/-0.8389255958738975/0.25/64/3/63 float=y maxiter=500 inside=zmag outside=summ colors=000<3>000<4>0ZZ0ee0mm4UU8AA<7>4aa3ee3hh<3>0ww<9>0ZZ0XX0UU<2>0NN0K\ K2MM<8>RhhUjjXmm<3>gww<9>HeeEccBaa<3>0UUUUUTTT<2>LLL<2>SSSUUUVVV<4>eeegg\ gjjjkkk<2>sss<8>```ZZZXXXUUUTTT<2>LLL<2>SSSUUUVVV<4>eeegggjjjkkk<2>sss<8\ >PPPLLLIII<3>444`ch<37>556445334223112000<67>000 } ds38 { ; (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 15, 1999 t= 0:00:40.97 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_c.frm formulaname=Celtic_Julia passes=1 center-mag=-1.11022e-016/0.0156454/3.205128 params=0.78/0.5/0.25/128/3/63 float=y maxiter=500 inside=zmag outside=summ colors=000000065<3>0VU0`_0gf<2>0zy<3>MavRWuXQu<3>r0q<3>X0WS0RM0L<3>000<4\ 3>000<3>000110332<23>nnmpporrq<3>zzy<25>CCBAA9887<2>221000000<39>0000000\ 00<3>000g00j00m00k05<3>`0UZ0_W0eT0l<3>I0LF0EA09504000110<44>zzy } ds39 { ; (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 15, 1999 t= 0:00:30.10 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_c.frm formulaname=Celtic_Julia passes=1 center-mag=-1.11022e-016/0.0156454/3.205128 params=1.474326609088412/-0.4064302499465926/0.25/128/3/63 float=y maxiter=500 inside=zmag outside=summ colors=xn_000vlY<22>XQBVPAUO9<2>RL6QK5QK6QL8<2>UQGVSJXUN<3>bbZddbefe<3>l\ or<3>XZ_SUWOQR<3>787<3>221000000<6>11811921A<10>35N36O36P37Q<3>59X6AY6B_\ 7Ba7Cc<26>PWsQXsQXt<2>T_vT_vSZu<25>CHfBGeAGd<2>8Db7Ca7B_<7>35N24L24J13I1\ 2G01E<10>016015015<2>002000000<7>STVVXZZ`b<3>lor<8>ZXRYVOWTK<2>SNBQL8QL8\ QL7QK6<21>pgSqhTsiU<2>vlXxnZxnZxnZ } ds40 { ; (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 15, 1999 t= 0:00:34.22 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_h.frm formulaname=hc_julstar function=atan/exp/ident/floor passes=t center-mag=-1.42109e-014/1.24345e-014/0.142637 params=1.076870784630879/1.246314889980773/16.01159703360088/0.696249275\ 1853999/-1.528656880397961/-0.3558427686391797 float=y maxiter=550 inside=maxiter outside=summ colors=000444<24>oolppnrrp<3>zzw<16>HHGEEECCB<3>111MC7<3>hVLn_PscSyhW<8>\ VJDRGBOD9<3>A20000<34>0fn0gp0hq<3>0mw<11>0HN0EK0BH<3>005K0K<29>hXpiZqj_r\ <2>lbumdwmdw<35>J6XI5WH4V<3>E0SA20<4>YMFaPHfTK<3>yhW<16>OD8LB7J96<3>A201\ 11222 } ========================================================================== Hope you like 'em. davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: (fractint) evolver par Date: 15 Sep 1999 09:45:55 -0400 A par: ds33 { ; (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 15, 1999 t= 0:00:30.48 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_b.frm formulaname=bubbleboth_jul passes=1 center-mag=0/0/0.6666667 params=-1.094210486159856/1.559731711783197/2500/0.75/1.5/0 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255 colors=006H85E53<10>526417317<3>008W08<40>sfptgqthr<2>vkuwmwwlv<24>`9B`8\ A_68<3>W00000<37>000<4>000A20<4>YMFaPHfTK<3>yhW<3>paRn_PlZO<2>eTK<2>dSJc\ RJbRIaQIaPH<32>F63E53D52<2>B31A20B30<25>o`QqaRscS<3>yhW<11>LB7 } davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Jemison Subject: (fractint) popcorn and evolver issue solved! Date: 15 Sep 1999 09:48:48 -0400 << SO I propose a new option, something like "cliporbit=3D" which would < Subject: (fractint) Is it my sound card or... Date: 15 Sep 1999 11:57:46 -0400 Morgan, It is possible that Sylvie actually did those pars before the srelease parameter was around. I haven't noticed or duplicated your problem, but i= t sounds as if it *may* be related to the srelease. Have you tried a on= the offending file(s) to see if it writes the missing srelease in to the new par, and does that take care of the problem? Hope you are enjoying the new sound features! Bill Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil McRevis Subject: Re: (fractint) XFractint 310 colour maps Date: 15 Sep 1999 10:29:55 -0600 In article , Randall Britten writes: > Running on Redhat 6.0, using fvwm or KDE, xfractint starts with a blue to > black graded colour map. [...] xfractint only runs reliably in 8-bit pseudocolor mode. Check 'xdpyinfo' and see what it says for the root visual. If it says anything other than PseudoColor, you need to change the visual of your server. [Tim, did my change to let xfractint limp along in non-pseudocolor visuals get into xfractint?] -- Legalize Adulthood! ``Ain't it funny that they all fire the pistol, at the wrong end of the race?''--PDBT legalize@xmission.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) Is it my sound card or... Date: 15 Sep 1999 13:05:25 -0400 Hi Bill and Morgan, >> It is possible that Sylvie actually did those pars before the srelease= >> parameter was around. Those pars don't have the srelease=3D parameter because they use the default value (5). >> I haven't noticed or duplicated your problem, but it sounds as if it >> *may* be related to the srelease. Me neither, but pressing a key just after you run the pars changes the sound (and produces the correct sound). I have the same problem with music_1. Cheers, - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) New galleries Date: 15 Sep 1999 15:42:53 -0400 Hi All, I just added two galleries to my site: #13 with 14 carr2821's #14 with 12 images (ddecorated eggs, embossed mandels...) All images were crested with Ultra Fractal. I want to thank Damien Jones who generously offered me a little space a= t Fractalus.com! Cheers, - Sylvie ps: Oops, I was about to forget the URL! http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Sylvie_Gallet/homepage.htm Enjoy! Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kenneth Childress Subject: Re: (fractint) New galleries Date: 15 Sep 1999 13:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Red, Outstanding gallery. You certainly know what you are doing. I think I'm going to have to steal^H^H^H^Hborrow some ideas. :-) Sylvie, Another stellar set of images. I'm amazed at the seeming simplicity of the images, yet the beauty you extract from them. Can you bottle that ability and send some to me? :-) Ken... Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Critzygal@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) New galleries Date: 15 Sep 1999 16:26:23 EDT They are all beautiful. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Genealogy1@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) 4 pars Date: 15 Sep 1999 16:30:25 EDT Hi David, The 4 PARs were nice work. Keep it up. Regards, --Bob Carr-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Genealogy1@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) evolver-pars 1 Date: 15 Sep 1999 17:04:25 EDT Hi Jo, Excellent group of images. Regards, --Bob Carr-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: Re: (fractint) New galleries Date: 15 Sep 1999 17:44:17 -0400 Hi, >> They are all beautiful. Thank you! Cheers, - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: Re: (fractint) New galleries Date: 15 Sep 1999 17:44:15 -0400 Hi Ken, >> Another stellar set of images. I'm amazed at the seeming simplicity o= f >> the images, yet the beauty you extract from them. Thank you very much! = >> Can you bottle that ability and send some to me? :-) ;-) Cheers, - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) 4 pars Date: 15 Sep 1999 17:50:08 -0400 At 04:30 PM 9/15/1999 EDT, you wrote: Hi Bob, >The 4 PARs were nice work. Keep it up. Regards, davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil McRevis Subject: (fractint) [gnu.announce] GNU Project seeks nominations for the Free So Date: 15 Sep 1999 16:01:46 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:11:59 -0400 To: info-gnu@gnu.org Groups: gnu.announce,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.sources.d,gnu.misc.discuss Follow: gnu.misc.discuss From: Free Software Foundation Org: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Id: ======== [Please redistribute widely where appropriate] The GNU project is asking for nominations for the Second Annual Free Software Foundation Award for the Advancement of Free Software. We want to give this award to a person who has made a great contribution to the progress and development of free software (free as in freedom; see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html for the definition), through activities that accord with the spirit of free software. Any kind of activity could be eligible--writing software, writing documentation, publishing CDs, even journalism--but whatever the activity, we want to recognize long-term central contributions to the development of the world of free software. "Accord with the spirit" means, for example, that software, manuals or collections of them (on tape or CD) must be entirely free. (Once again, that's free as in freedom; see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html.) Work done commercially is eligible, but we want to give awards to individuals, not companies. People such as Richard Stallman, Linus Torvalds and Larry Wall, who have already received this or other awards for their contributions, are not eligible for the Free Software Award. Please send your nominations to award-nominations@gnu.org, on or before October 8, 1999. Please put the name of the person you are nominating in the message subject. Please include an explanation of the work the person has done and why you think it is especially important--but no more than 40 lines long. Also please state where to find the software which your nomination is based on. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil McRevis Subject: Re: (fractint) [gnu.announce] GNU Project seeks nominations for the Free So Date: 15 Sep 1999 16:16:27 -0600 I sent this to the fractint list because I want everyone to nominate the Fractint team for the excellent free (as in freedom) software they've provided for all of us! -- Legalize Adulthood! ``Ain't it funny that they all fire the pistol, at the wrong end of the race?''--PDBT legalize@xmission.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) 4 pars Date: 15 Sep 1999 18:27:19 -0400 >Hi Bob, > >>The 4 PARs were nice work. Keep it up. Oh good grief! Forgot to write "Thanks". So here it is, Thank you. Regards, davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) New galleries Date: 15 Sep 1999 18:39:45 -0400 At 03:42 PM 9/15/1999 -0400, you wrote: > I just added two galleries to my site: > #13 with 14 carr2821's > #14 with 12 images (ddecorated eggs, embossed mandels...) A really magnificient site. A brief run through only a couple of galleries and I picked out 9905311, 9906085, and 9906082 in gallery 10, 2821040 in gallery 13, 990881 and egg 9905022 in gallery 14 as even more special. Regards, davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoWeber Subject: Re: (fractint) evolver-pars 1 Date: 15 Sep 1999 21:02:02 -0400 Hi Bob, >>Excellent group of images. Thanks --Jo-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoWeber Subject: (fractint) evolver pars 2 Date: 15 Sep 1999 21:02:07 -0400 Hi All, a second exploration of two formulas from Bob Carr. Enjoy --Jo Weber-- 6c293105 { ; t=3D 0:00:46.52 = ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200 Aug 19, 1999 01:10:15 ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber ; e-mail to JoWeber@compuserve.com reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dcarr2931.frm formulaname=3DCarr2931 function=3Dcos/ident/tan/ident passes=3D1 center-mag=3D0/0/0.6666667 params=3D0/0/0/0 float=3Dy potential=3D256/2= 00/0 periodicity=3D0 colors=3D000000<13>XFt<12>000B00<9>a00<7>zz0<9>W00<7>800000007<11>70X<6= >vs\ d<9>IMh<3>`Fw<7>5Pw<10>02C007000<5>PHHTKKXPN<5>vsc<6>uhSufQudOubMv_KvYI= v\ WHwUF<9>H00000000<20>o00<14>000000RII<12>zyn<10>XFw<14>213000000<14>7Mw= } 6c293117 { ; t=3D 0:00:36.25 = ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200 Aug 19, 1999 01:10:25 ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber ; e-mail to JoWeber@compuserve.com reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dcarr2931.frm formulaname=3DCarr2931 function=3Dtan/ident/tan/ident passes=3D1 center-mag=3D0/0/0.6666667 params=3D0.6333201086458937/-5.448896755882442/2.914639728995636/1.3999= 450\ 66682943 float=3Dy inside=3Dmaxiter potential=3D256/200/0 periodicity=3D= 0 colors=3D000000<13>XFt<12>000B00<9>a00<7>zz0<9>W00<7>800000007<11>70X<6= >vs\ d<9>IMh<3>`Fw<7>5Pw<10>02C007000<5>PHHTKKXPN<5>vsc<6>uhSufQudOubMv_KvYI= v\ WHwUF<9>H00000000<20>o00<14>000000RII<12>zyn<10>XFw<14>213000000<14>7Mw= } 6c293121 { ; 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t=3D 0:00:44.22 = ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200 Aug 19, 1999 01:39:08 ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber ; e-mail to JoWeber@compuserve.com reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dcarr2931.frm formulaname=3Dcarr2932 function=3Dtan/ident/tan/ident passes=3D1 center-mag=3D0.00209004/-0.00121725/1.528211/1/-67.5 params=3D1.804010132145146/-0.5988952299569689/0/0 float=3Dy potential=3D256/200/0 periodicity=3D0 colors=3D000000<13>XFt<5>I8UF7QD6MA5I84E<2>000B00<9>a00<7>zz0<9>W00<7>8= 000\ 00007<11>70X<6>vsd<2>jiffefbbfY_fUXg<2>IMh<3>`Fw<7>5Pw<10>02C007000<5>P= H\ HTKKXPN<5>vsc<5>ujUuhSufQudOubM<3>wUF<9>H00000000<20>o00<14>000000RII<5= >\ fbXie_lhaokdrog<2>zyn<10>XFw<12>63A427213000000<14>7Mw } 6c293222 { ; t=3D 0:00:58.22 = ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200 Aug 19, 1999 01:39:17 ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber ; e-mail to JoWeber@compuserve.com reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dcarr2931.frm formulaname=3Dcarr2932 function=3Dtan/ident/tan/ident passes=3D1 center-mag=3D0.0532341/0.122255/0.9367722/1/-67.5 params=3D-1.236487929929502/-0.9528489028595843/0/0 float=3Dy potential=3D256/200/0 periodicity=3D0 colors=3D000000<13>XFt<5>I8UF7QD6MA5I84E<2>000B00<9>a00<7>zz0<9>W00<7>8= 000\ 00007<11>70X<6>vsd<2>jiffefbbfY_fUXg<2>IMh<3>`Fw<7>5Pw<10>02C007000<5>P= H\ HTKKXPN<5>vsc<5>ujUuhSufQudOubM<3>wUF<9>H00000000<20>o00<14>000000RII<5= >\ fbXie_lhaokdrog<2>zyn<10>XFw<12>63A427213000000<14>7Mw } frm:Carr2931{ ; Modified OK-42 ;passes=3D1 needs to be used with this PHC formula. b5=3Dpixel, p1x=3Dreal(p1)+1,p1y=3Dimag(p1)+1, p2x=3Dreal(p2)+1,p2y=3Dimag(p2)+1 z=3Dwhitesq*sqr(b5)-(whitesq=3D=3D0)*conj(b5): zx=3Dreal(z),zy=3Dimag(z), x=3Dfn1(zx*p1x-zy*p1y)+fn2(zx*p2x-zy*p2y), y=3Dfn3(zx*p1y+zy*p1x)+fn4(zx*p2y+zy*p2x), z=3Dx+flip(y)+(-0.7456,-0.132)+(x+flip(y))/10, |z|<=3D4 } frm:Carr2932{ ; Modified OK-42 ;passes=3D1 needs to be used with this PHC formula. b5=3Dpixel, p1x=3Dreal(p1)+1,p1y=3Dimag(p1)+1, p2x=3Dreal(p2)+1,p2y=3Dimag(p2)+1 z=3Dwhitesq*sqr(b5)-(whitesq=3D=3D0)*conj(b5): zx=3Dreal(z),zy=3Dimag(z), x=3Dfn1(zx*p1x-zy*p1y)+fn2(zx*p2x-zy*p2y), y=3Dfn3(zx*p1y+zy*p1x)+fn4(zx*p2y+zy*p2x), z=3D(|x+flip(y)|)+(x+flip(y))+(-0.7456,-0.132)+(x+flip(y))/10, |z|<=3D4 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Jemison Subject: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver Date: 15 Sep 1999 21:18:06 -0400 Ron, << Here is a par (first one I have submitted for Fractint in a very long= << time :-)). The graphics resolution will affect the tune. <)= . I particularly liked the scale mapping you used...good work! Bill Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoWeber Subject: (fractint) Another carr formula par Date: 15 Sep 1999 21:50:45 -0400 Hi All, some zooms into Carr2891 and Carr2939. Enjoy --Jo-- http://www.joweber.de 6c289113 { ; t=3D 0:29:22.39 = ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200 Aug 19, 1999 00:54:56 ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber ; e-mail to JoWeber@compuserve.com reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfractint.frm formulaname=3Dcarr2891 passes=3D1 center-mag=3D-0.00180494/0.0015702/2.574084/1/-14.999 params=3D200/300/400/550 float=3Dy maxiter=3D647 periodicity=3D0 colors=3D000990EE0II0MM0RR0WW0<3>hhMlkSooYsrcvvhzynwtosop<8>NhlJgkFgkBf= j8e\ j4di0ch0ae0Zb<3>22R<5>569335000000400<2>A00C00C00D00000F00<9>O00<4>zg0<= 3\ >oU0<2>0CI0FM<8>gl6lp5qs3uw2zz0<10>`00<2>jNKmVQpbWtjawqhzyn<8>yUF<7>x4R= <\ 6>W6TS6TO7TK7TG7UC5M83F42763A00G033<3>0DD0GG0JJ0MM2OO4PR6RT8TW<2>KWcOXe= S\ YgWZi__lc`ngWQlQ0iN0gJ0<2>p80<2>W20P00K00<3>000023057<4>OKS<3>000220457= <\ 5>HKSJNWMQ_OTcQWg<2>Xcr<14>23300000500A<5>08E<7>NW5Q_3Tb2We0Tb1<7>9E96A= B\ 47A149000550 } 6c289114 { ; t=3D 0:42:29.31 = ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200 Aug 19, 1999 00:55:20 ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber ; e-mail to JoWeber@compuserve.com reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfractint.frm formulaname=3Dcarr2891 passes=3D1 center-mag=3D+0.27158177846209420/-0.57489063269758780/94.78983/1/-29.9= 96 params=3D200/300/400/550 float=3Dy maxiter=3D647 periodicity=3D0 colors=3D0000002B1<8>5M3<5>jj0<5>5M3<8>020000000000<10>BGJ<6>zpa<6>BGJB= GJ<\ 6>12200000053M<8>4Fh<5>iio<5>4Mh<7>0F7<7>SZ1V`0Zc0ae0<4>oo0<12>MF700000= 0\ 000B00<11>d00<5>Uwh<5>`00<9>F07<11>`hw<18>29A077000<15>0000002B1<10>5M3= <\ 6>iri<6>5M3<9>020000000 } 6c293909 { ; t=3D 1:01:57.63 = ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200 Aug 19, 1999 00:55:32 ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber ; e-mail to JoWeber@compuserve.com reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfractint.frm formulaname=3Dcarr2939 passes=3D1 center-mag=3D0.346138/0.752141/5.240934/1/-135 params=3D200/300/400/550= float=3Dy maxiter=3D647 periodicity=3D0 colors=3D000E00B00800000007<11>70X<6>vsd<2>jiffefbbfY_fUXg<2>IMh<3>`Fw<= 7>5\ Pw<10>02C007000<5>PHHTKKXPN<5>vsc<4>ulWujUuhSufQudO<4>wUF<9>H00000000<2= 0\ >o00<14>000000RII<6>ie_liboldroguriwvlzyn<10>XFw<14>213000000<14>7Mw000= <\ 13>XFt<3>NAbK9ZI8UG7Q<2>84E539315000B00<9>a00<7>zz0<9>W00<4>H00 } 6c293914 { ; 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t=3D 1:35:40.98 = ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200 Aug 19, 1999 00:56:29 ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber ; e-mail to JoWeber@compuserve.com reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfractint.frm formulaname=3Dcarr2939 passes=3D1 center-mag=3D+0.13507004543312170/-0.43680929986672170/1747.731/1/-37.4= 96 params=3D200/300/400/550 float=3Dy maxiter=3D647 periodicity=3D0 colors=3D000B5I<3>000B00<9>a00<7>zz0<9>W00<7>800000007<11>70X<6>vsd<2>j= iff\ efbbfY_fUXg<2>IMh<3>`Fw<7>5Pw<10>02C007000<5>PHHTKKXPN<5>vsc<4>ulWujUuh= S\ ufQudO<4>wUF<9>H00000000<20>o00<14>000000RII<6>ie_liboldroguriwvlzyn<10= >\ XFw<14>213000000<14>7Mw000<13>XFt<3>NAbK9ZI8UG7QD6M } 6c293977 { ; t=3D 1:17:51.47 = ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200 Aug 19, 1999 00:56:40 ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber ; e-mail to JoWeber@compuserve.com reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfractint.frm formulaname=3Dcarr2939 passes=3D1 center-mag=3D+0.25586655386249250/+0.85330515391690130/194.4068/1/144.9= 98 params=3D200/300/400/550 float=3Dy maxiter=3D647 periodicity=3D0 colors=3D000TZk<12>23300000500A<5>08E<7>NW5Q_3Tb2We0Tb1<7>9E96AB47A1490= 00<\ 3>II0MM0RR0WW0<3>hhMlkSooYsrcvvhzynwtosop<8>NhlJgkFgkBfj8ej4di0ch0ae0Zb= <\ 3>22R<5>569335000000400<2>A00C00C00D00000F00<9>O00<4>zg0<2>rY0<4>0FM<6>= Y\ dAbh8gl6lp5qs3uw2zz0<10>`00<2>jNKmVQpbWtjawqhzyn<2>kljfhhacfX_dRVb<6>xE= N\ <2>x4R<6>W6TS6TO7TK7TG7UC5M83F42763A00G022<6>0MM0P00M24L08TW<2>KWcOXeSY= g\ WZi__lc`n<3>gJ0<4>T00R00P00<2>A00<4>kbs<7>000220457<5>HKSJNWMQ_OTcQWg<2= >\ XcrVao } frm:Carr2891{;Modified Sylvie Gallet frm. [101324,3444],1996 ;passes=3D1 needs to be used with this PHC formula. b5=3Dpixel-conj(0.1/pixel)-flip(0.01/pixel), b3=3D|cos(conj(conj(pixel^30.5)))| b4=3D(conj(conj(0.15/log(exp(conj(conj(pixel^450))-b3-0.4)-0.8))))+|flip(= flip (2*b5^4))| c=3Dwhitesq*b4-(whitesq=3D=3D0)*b4 z=3Dwhitesq*b5-(whitesq=3D=3D0)*b5 c1=3D1.5*z,c2=3D2.25*z,c3=3D3.375*z,c4=3D5.0625*z, l1=3Dreal(p1),l2=3Dimag(p1),l3=3Dreal(p2),l4=3Dimag(p2), bailout=3D16,iter=3D0: t1=3D(iter=3D=3Dl1),t2=3D(iter=3D=3Dl2),t3=3D(iter=3D=3Dl3),t4=3D(iter=3D= =3Dl4), t=3D1-(t1||t2||t3||t4),z=3Dz*t,c=3Dc*t+c1*t1+c2*t2+c3*t3+c4*t4, z=3D(z*z)+(-0.7456,-0.132)+c/10-(0.0035/c/21) iter=3Diter+1 |z|<=3Dbailout } frm:Carr2939{;Modified Sylvie Gallet frm. [101324,3444],1996 ;passes=3D1 needs to be used with this PHC formula. b5=3Dflip(flip(pixel/2))^5-conj(0.13/pixel)-flip(0.1/pixel)+0.3, b4=3Dpixel^3-conj(0.13/pixel-cabs(0.1/pixel)) c=3Dwhitesq*conj(b4)-(whitesq=3D=3D0)*sqr(b4) z=3Dwhitesq*sqr(b5)-(whitesq=3D=3D0)*conj(b5) c1=3D1.5*z,c2=3D2.25*z,c3=3D3.375*z,c4=3D5.0625*z, l1=3Dreal(p1),l2=3Dimag(p1),l3=3Dreal(p2),l4=3Dimag(p2), bailout=3D16,iter=3D0: t1=3D(iter=3D=3Dl1),t2=3D(iter=3D=3Dl2),t3=3D(iter=3D=3Dl3),t4=3D(iter=3D= =3Dl4), t=3D1-(t1||t2||t3||t4),z=3Dz*t,c=3Dc*t+c1*t1+c2*t2+c3*t3+c4*t4, z=3D0.2*z^3+z^2+(-0.7656,-0.232)+c/10+c, iter=3Diter+1 imag(flip(z))<=3Dbailout } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: Drum Roll Please Date: 15 Sep 1999 22:00:03 -0500 Ladies and Gentlemen, It is with great pleasure that I present to you the entries for the Fractal-Art '99 Contest: http://www.fractalus.com/contest99/ (Click the big word "Entries" right at the top. :-) This isn't actually absolutely everything, but I know you're all dying to see what was entered, and I didn't want to make you wait any longer. So, please note: - Animations are not posted yet. - You can fill in the voting form, but if you actually attempt to vote tonight you'll be asked to try again in a couple of days. Don't panic, the form will remember everything you've put into it if your browser has cookies enabled. - Downloadable versions of the site aren't available yet. - French and Spanish pages currently appear in English. (This is not the translators' fault; the text for those pages was written less than two hours ago, and they don't even have copies of it yet.) + Information on ordering the CD IS posted, although additional arrangements may yet be made. Those of you who are curious about the size of the contest web site may drink in these statistics: + 6 directories + 3,311 files + 91,192,087 bytes I won't tally up the amount of time spent on this, mainly because I don't remember. :-) Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul DeCelle Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: Drum Roll Please Date: 16 Sep 1999 00:54:52 -0400 > Ladies and Gentlemen, > > It is with great pleasure that I present to you the entries for the > Fractal-Art '99 Contest: > > http://www.fractalus.com/contest99/ Outstanding! After just a brief run through the thumbnails, I'm impressed - and humbled :-) by the quality of the entries. Voting's going to be tough, but I'm up for it! Regards, Paul DeCelle Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Critzygal@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: Drum Roll Please Date: 16 Sep 1999 01:45:59 EDT Wonderful!! It's going to be very difficult to vote. The entries are terrific! Thank you Damien....great job! Chris Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RENRAD1@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: Drum Roll Please Date: 16 Sep 1999 02:26:19 EDT I've just taken a preliminary stroll through the contest site...and I'm stunned....it's been a trip through Wonderland! Congratulations to the site and contest organizers and volunteers!!! Congratulations to all of the entrants as well...it's going to be very hard to vote! It's a fascinating place..I only wish there were more comments! ....now how do we pop open the virtual bubbly to toast the Grand Opening? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike and Linda Allison" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: Drum Roll Please Date: 15 Sep 1999 23:41:46 -0700 After looking at the thumbnails, I went back and downloaded about 30 of the images. I'm stunned! They are so wonderful! Everyone needs to see the large images - if you only look at the thumbnails, you are cheating yourself out of some great eye candy! Thanks, Damien, Kerry, and everyone else! Linda Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RENRAD1@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: Drum Roll Please Date: 16 Sep 1999 03:17:07 EDT In a message dated 99-09-16 02:43:31 EDT, you write: << Everyone needs to see the large images - if you only look at the thumbnails, you are cheating yourself out of some great eye candy! >> Oh! Without question..large large large is the way to go! These entries are AMAZING! Cannot wait to get my hands on the CD! Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wayne Kiely" Subject: (fractint) 2 Evolver PARS Date: 16 Sep 1999 09:48:37 +0930 Hi all. Found these two using the evolver on a David Shanholtzer posting of Sep 15, 1999 wk990916a { ; Wayne Kiely ; Sep 16, 1999 ; t= 0:00:51.80 on PII 350 MMX at 1024x768 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_b.frm formulaname=bubbleboth_jul passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.6666667 params=-0.1010771507919554/0.7813266090884126/2500/0.75/1.5/0 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255 sound=off colors=006H85E53<8>735626526417317<3>008W08<41>tgqthruisujtvkuwmw<25>`9B\ `8A_68<3>W00000<37>000<4>000A20<4>YMFaPHfTK<3>yhW<3>paRn_PlZOjXNgVLeTK<2\ >dSJcRJbRIaQIaPH<32>F63E53D52<2>B31A20B30<22>jXNlYOm_P<3>udTvfUxgVyhW<11\ >LB7 } wk990916b { ; Wayne Kiely ; Sep 16, 1999 ; t= 0:01:17.34 on PII 350 MMX at 1024x768 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_b.frm formulaname=bubbleboth_jul passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.6666667 params=-0.8546096682638021/0.1020151066621911/2500/0.75/1.5/0 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255 sound=off colors=006H85E53<8>735626526417317<3>008W08<41>tgqthruisujtvkuwmw<25>`9B\ `8A_68<3>W00000<37>000<4>000A20<4>YMFaPHfTK<3>yhW<3>paRn_PlZOjXNgVLeTK<2\ >dSJcRJbRIaQIaPH<32>F63E53D52<2>B31A20B30<22>jXNlYOm_P<3>udTvfUxgVyhW<11\ >LB7 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: (fractint) Is it my sound card or... Date: 16 Sep 1999 20:42:12 +1200 At 13:05 15/09/1999 -0400, Sylvie wrote: > > Me neither, but pressing a key just after you run the pars changes the >sound (and produces the correct sound). I have the same problem with >music_1. > One of the problems I'm having is that I'm not sure which version you intended - staccato or legato. Morgan "Tin ear?" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: (fractint) Is it my sound card or... Date: 16 Sep 1999 20:42:09 +1200 At 11:57 15/09/1999 -0400, Bill wrote: > >It is possible that Sylvie actually did those pars before the srelease >parameter was around. I haven't noticed or duplicated your problem, but it >sounds as if it *may* be related to the srelease. Have you tried a on >the offending file(s) to see if it writes the missing srelease in to the >new par, and does that take care of the problem? > Just tried your suggestion: resaving the par does not write an srelease when it wasn't there to start with - the result is identical up to line length with the original. >Hope you are enjoying the new sound features! > I am ... I'm not sure anyone else within earshot is :-) Morgan L. Owens "Thursdays go too slow." Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Randall Britten Subject: (fractint) xfractint 310 Date: 16 Sep 1999 11:10:12 +0200 Xfractint 310 runs if the X colour depth is 8 bits per plane (Linux: Redhat 6.0), Yay! Some funnies: - I had to make sure that the image window had focus when pressing F keys (e.g. F6) (otherwise wierd results, e.g. F1 being "escape") - Ctrl+any alphabet key does not seem to work at all. - Resizing the graphic window and then proceeding to try and draw causes it to crash ("Segmentation Fault") Only the "ismand" demos in Frac200.par (using Frac200.frm) worked, everything else said: "could not understand hertz=150" or some other number. After a number of failed @ retries, the program crashes ("Segmentation Fault"). Just a question: the DOS version is written totally for a text/svga screen type environment. Wouldn't it perhaps be simpler to port the dos version to a Linux text/svga version ? And anyway, shouldn't it be written as a Win32 app by now (there must be a rich sponser who would pay the authors loads of money to put in the hundreds of hours. This thing has such potential.)? The UI could then be designed for a windowing environment, and then a port to X could use the same UI design. I don't really understand what the advantages of the DOS environment are. ------------- Randall Britten Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Jemison Subject: (fractint) Is it my sound card or... Date: 16 Sep 1999 10:54:46 -0400 Morgan, Sylvie was entirely correct in her statement that the reason the srelease= value wasn't included in the par is that it is at the default value. I ju= st double checked by resetting all the screen to default and writi= ng the par. Sure enough, none of the synth parameters were written in the pa= r, since they were all default. Ie. the par not having reference to srelease is not the source of the problem. Bill Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Jemison Subject: (fractint) xfractint 310 Date: 16 Sep 1999 10:54:48 -0400 Randal, << I don't really understand what the advantages of the DOS environment are. One REAL important advantage is that Dos was the *only* environment aroun= d for a great part of the Fractint development. Bill Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil McRevis Subject: Re: (fractint) xfractint 310 Date: 16 Sep 1999 09:59:22 -0600 In article , Randall Britten writes: > - I had to make sure that the image window had focus when pressing F keys > (e.g. F6) (otherwise wierd results, e.g. F1 being "escape") We (fractint development team) are working on improving the fractint infrastructure for non-DOS environments in general and this should improve in the next release or two. > - Ctrl+any alphabet key does not seem to work at all. Odd, that *should* work fine. > - Resizing the graphic window and then proceeding to try and draw causes it > to crash ("Segmentation Fault") Resizing the graphic window doesn't achieve anything useful anyway. xfractint still thinks its 'windows' is the entire screen. > Only the "ismand" demos in Frac200.par (using Frac200.frm) worked, > everything else said: "could not understand hertz=150" or some other number. > After a number of failed @ retries, the program crashes ("Segmentation > Fault"). Not sure about that, I haven't tried the new version of xfractint. > Just a question: the DOS version is written totally for a text/svga screen > type environment. Wouldn't it perhaps be simpler to port the dos version to > a Linux text/svga version ? No, we're moving towards something that assumes less about the environment to where xfractint should look and behave more like a regular X app. > And anyway, shouldn't it be written as a Win32 app by now (there must be a > rich sponser who would pay the authors loads of money to put in the hundreds > of hours. This thing has such potential.)? The UI could then be designed > for a windowing environment, and then a port to X could use the same UI > design. I don't really understand what the advantages of the DOS > environment are. There is no rich sponsor, unless you consider me the Rich sponsor ;-). I am the one that got sick of the status quo and decided to make the major changes to the code base necessary to begin migrating fractint towards a more modern GUI under windowed environments. (It might even end up improving the GUI under DOS.) -- Legalize Adulthood! ``Ain't it funny that they all fire the pistol, at the wrong end of the race?''--PDBT legalize@xmission.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgen Bell" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: Drum Roll Please Date: 16 Sep 1999 12:42:04 -0400 Enormous thanks to Damien and everyone who has worked so hard on the contest...it looks spectacular! Morgen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: Re: (fractint) New galleries Date: 16 Sep 1999 14:28:36 -0400 Hi David, >> A really magnificient site. Thank you, David! Regards, - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bruce Nepple" Subject: (fractint) Discontinuity in Mandelbrot Coloring Date: 16 Sep 1999 13:07:44 -0700 --Message-Boundary-1060 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body I'm running fractint 20.0. I've included and attached a .par file (since I don't know which will work better) from a stock mandelbrot. Notice that there is a discontinuity in the center (a circle) where iterations cross over 32767. Is this a "bug"? It looks interesting, but I'm surprised to see such a thing. The color "aliasing" makes for a neat spiral though. In the old old version that I first used to make this pattern, max iterations was 32767, and there was an "inner color" circle at the same spot as the discontinuity. If you have the time, set max iterations to 32767 and try it. It has an interesting effect when you color cycle. I suppose that with deep zoom and floating point, these "color aliasing" spirals are old hat now, but I thought it was pretty cool when I first discovered it (1992). bruce Bruces Spiral { ; Color Cycle at your favorite speed/direction ; Note the discontinuity where iterations cross 32767 ; (the center circle) reset=1720 type=mandel center-mag=+0.25161897010117430/-0.498440366006514\ 00/282222.5/1/-32.49/-0.019 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=1000000 colors=000WWV<35>vv4ww3ww2<2>zz0zz0zy0<77>z40z30z2\ 0z20z10z00<79>40v30w20w<2>00z00z11y<40>VVV } --Message-Boundary-1060 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-disposition: inline Content-description: Attachment information. The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any another MIME-compliant system, you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. ---- File information ----------- File: BCNSPIRA.PAR Date: 16 Sep 1999, 13:04 Size: 447 bytes. Type: Binary --Message-Boundary-1060 Content-type: Application/Octet-stream; name="BCNSPIRA.PAR"; type=Binary Content-disposition: attachment; filename="BCNSPIRA.PAR" Content-transfer-encoding: X-UUencode begin 660 BCNSPIRA.PAR M0G)U8V5S(%-P:7)A;"`@("`@('L@.R!#;VQO6-L92!A="!Y;W5R(&9A M=F]R:71E('-P965D+V1I&ET97(],3`P,#`P,`T*("!C;VQO Subject: (fractint) Does Soundblaster work? Date: 17 Sep 1999 00:42:14 +0200 (MET DST) Hello out there! First of all, I gotta say that the evolver feature of v.20 ist REAL great! However there's something which makes me worry. I'm running DOS-Fractint under the Win95-Surface. (P133, Soundblaster AWE) Unfortunately, Fractint produces no Sound-Output neither on the PC-speaker (which is probably due to the buggy speaker) nor on the Soundcard which elswhere works great. Is Fractint designed for Soundblaster and cards of that kind at all, or should this be regarded as a bug? Thanks, Lionel. | | | ___ | | \ "Talente finden Loesungen - Genies entdecken Probleme." | | | (Krailshaimer) |___|___/ | | Mail me at nonexist@cs.tu-berlin.de. | Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: (fractint) Makefcfg and DPMI Date: 16 Sep 1999 18:43:38 -0600 The makefcfg program was compiled with the djgpp compiler, and requires that DPMI memory services be available. If not, there is a cryptic error message. Believe it or not, some users run Fractint in a bare DOS environment with no memory management. I've forgotten what little I ever knew about this topic. Can someone help me out with a simple config.sys that works under DOS 6.22 and provides DPMI? Alternatively, there is a freeware DPMI server that is available at the djgpp web site. If anyone can give directions for how to use that, I'd also appreciate it. Alternatively, we need to port makefcfg.c to an environment that doesn't need DPMI. The source code makes explicit calls to DPMI. Tim Another solution is that Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lee Skinner Subject: (fractint) xfractint 310 Date: 16 Sep 1999 22:48:01 -0400 Randal, << I don't really understand what the advantages of the DOS environment are. One advantage is speed - it runs faster under DOS than in Windows. Lee Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) xfractint 310 Date: 16 Sep 1999 22:00:21 -0500 Lee, - One advantage is speed - it runs faster under DOS than in Windows. That's funny, I never really found that much difference. When I measured it, it was a matter of perhaps 3%. If you're seeing a bigger difference than that, it's probably not that FractInt is running in a DOS box inside Windows, but that you've got other things running in Windows that are eating lots of CPU time. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lee Skinner Subject: (fractint) xfractint 310 Date: 17 Sep 1999 00:21:58 -0400 Damien, >> - One advantage is speed - it runs faster under DOS than in Windows. <= < >>That's funny, I never really found that much difference. When I measure= d it, it was a matter of perhaps 3%. << So you agree! Even that 3% can add up substantially over time when yo= ur machine generates fractals over 20 hrs per day (a bonus 3 hrs in 5 days).= I'm not recommending DOS over Windows for anyone - Randall just asked for= an advantage and I gave him one. OTOH, you'll definately need to run Fractint under Windows to get the beautiful new sound features. Lee Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lee Skinner Subject: (fractint) Discontinuity Date: 17 Sep 1999 00:21:57 -0400 Bruce, >> I'm running fractint 20.0. I've included and attached a .par file (since I don't know which will wor= k better) from a stock mandelbrot. Notice that there is a discontinuity in= the center (a circle) where iterations cross over 32767. Is this a "bug"= ? = It looks interesting, but I'm surprised to see such a thing. << >> reset=3D1720 type=3Dmandel << You are running Fractint 20.0, but are asking it to act like Fractint 17.= 2, which was in fashion many years ago. It had this discontinuity bug, and this par will perpetuate that bug (and maybe other old bugs!) until you change reset=3D1720 to reset=3D2000. Lee Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: comdotatdotcom@csi.com Subject: RE: (fractint) Does Soundblaster work? Date: 17 Sep 1999 11:35 0000 Hi Lionel, > Is Fractint designed for Soundblaster and >cards of that kind at all, or should this be regarded >as a bug? I wrote the sound drivers from the original Soundblaster card documentation so an AWE32 should work as long as it's backward compatible with the old card as regards the FM synth. I haven't tested it on an AWE32 myself but believe it should work.... can anyone verify this? You could try checking the sound mixer control in windows, try turning up all the controls and if you're using the windows standard mixer then make sure you've checked out the mixer properties and have all possible controls enabled. Hope this helps, Robin. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jean-Pierre Louvet" Subject: (fractint) Contest 99 French mirror Date: 17 Sep 1999 15:34:27 +0200 Hi all, The French mirror of the contest is updated. European visitors are invited to use it to avoid an overload of the US site at fractalus.com. If you experience any problem send me a mail (don't disturb Damien who has made a huge work -more than 3000 files!-). I have had no time to verify all the mirror site. http://www.cribx1.u-bordeaux.fr/contest99/ Enjoy ! It is a very great site. J.P. Louvet | Phone : (33)05-56-84-58-35 IUT Universite Bordeaux I | email : louvet@hse.iuta.u-bordeaux.fr 33405 Talence CEDEX France | email : louvet@iuta.u-bordeaux.fr Fractales sur serveur Web Universite Bordeaux I : http://graffiti.u-bordeaux.fr/MAPBX/louvet/ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Terry Erickson" Subject: Re: (fractint) Does Soundblaster work? Date: 17 Sep 1999 09:58:09 -0700 I believe my sound card is a Soundblaster AWE 64 and it seems to work fine. I followed the instructions in the demo and learned to make fractal sounds. I played with it for a couple of hours last night. I am now planning to use this Fractint function in my own music. Might well be my new obsession. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 11:35 AM > Hi Lionel, > > > Is Fractint designed for Soundblaster and > >cards of that kind at all, or should this be regarded > >as a bug? > > > I wrote the sound drivers from the original Soundblaster card > documentation so an AWE32 should work as long as it's backward > compatible with the old card as regards the FM synth. I haven't tested > it on an AWE32 myself but believe it should work.... can anyone verify > this? > > You could try checking the sound mixer control in windows, try > turning up all the controls and if you're using the windows standard > mixer then make sure you've checked out the mixer properties and have > all possible controls enabled. > > Hope this helps, > Robin. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: Web Site Bug Date: 17 Sep 1999 14:05:48 -0500 Greetings folks, Just wanted to let you know that there was a bug in the "unmark" code which caused all marks to be removed, not just the one for the image you selected. This will be fixed shortly. Marking, however, worked just fine. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Prickett" Subject: Re: (fractint) xfractint 310 - Linux ? Date: 17 Sep 1999 11:38:09 -0700 << I don't really understand what the advantages of the DOS environment are. Subject: (fractint) More on makefcfg Date: 17 Sep 1999 07:17:57 -0600 I make a DOS boot disk under Windows 95, and booted with no config.sys or autoexec.bat from a floppy, and makefcfg worked, so the Win95 DOS must have DPMI services built in. Last night I couldn't find an earlier version DOS boot disk, but I must have one somewhere. The djgpp compiler comes with a program called cwsdpmi.exe that provides DPMI services. It is probably just a question of running this, however I can't test it until I get a DOS environment with no DPMI. What I may do it put the 22k program on my FTP site (it's free) and let those of you who can't run makefcfg try it. I have only had two reports. Tim ------- End of forwarded message ------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) xfractint 310 - Linux ? Date: 17 Sep 1999 17:34:55 -0600 Jim asked: > What speed difference is there running it under Linux, > does anyone know ? The Linux version (at present) makes no use of assembly language, and is probably quite a bit slower than the DOS version. Our hope for the future is to get Fractint completely inside a 32 bit memory environment and port some of the assembler for the most critical bottlenecks for both Windows and Linux. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Jemison Subject: (fractint) Does Soundblaster work? Date: 17 Sep 1999 20:35:45 -0400 << I followed the instructions in the demo and learned to make fractal < Subject: Re: (fractint) Does Soundblaster work? Date: 18 Sep 1999 01:45:15 -0400 --------------C82E4DB4E34C3669AC63232F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have this peculiar situation - I can't get Fractint (any version) to work without lots of visual noise (horizontal lines disrupting the images in color cycling) so I have to re-boot to DOS. Then Fractint works as beautifully as it used to on my old machine 3 years ago (a Northgate 66mhz with 8megs of ram). But the music pars in Fractint 20 don't work in DOS. When I go back into Windows 95 (I have a Dell 200mhz Pentium with 64megs of ram) the music pars work beautifully, either in a DOS box or full window. I can't seem to get these two conditions to synchronize. It isn't a problem because, when I want to work visually, I boot to DOS. When I want to work with the music pars I do it by calling Fractint up directly in Windows. When I type "set" at the DOS prompt the following line appears as the last line in the display: BLASTER= A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6 E620 I checked the instructions in the Creative manual and the settings above should work in DOS as well as Windows 95 - but they apparently don't. Has anyone else encountered the same problem and can anyone give me a suggestion or is this a vagary of my machine? Thanks. Bill Ray. comdotatdotcom@csi.com wrote: > Hi Lionel, > > > Is Fractint designed for Soundblaster and > >cards of that kind at all, or should this be regarded > >as a bug? > > I wrote the sound drivers from the original Soundblaster card > documentation so an AWE32 should work as long as it's backward > compatible with the old card as regards the FM synth. I haven't tested > it on an AWE32 myself but believe it should work.... can anyone verify > this? > > You could try checking the sound mixer control in windows, try > turning up all the controls and if you're using the windows standard > mixer then make sure you've checked out the mixer properties and have > all possible controls enabled. > > Hope this helps, > Robin. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" --------------C82E4DB4E34C3669AC63232F Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have this peculiar situation - I can't get Fractint (any version) to work without lots of visual noise (horizontal lines disrupting the images in color cycling) so I have to re-boot to DOS.  Then Fractint works as beautifully as it used to on my old machine 3 years ago (a Northgate 66mhz with 8megs of ram).  But the music pars in Fractint 20 don't work in DOS.  When I go back into Windows 95 (I have a Dell 200mhz Pentium with 64megs of ram) the music pars work beautifully, either in a DOS box or full window.  I can't seem to get these two conditions to synchronize.  It isn't a problem because, when I want to work visually, I boot to DOS.  When I want to work with the music pars I do it by calling Fractint up directly in Windows.

When I type "set" at the DOS prompt the following line appears as the last line in the display:
BLASTER= A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6 E620

I checked the instructions in the Creative manual and the settings above should work in DOS as well as Windows 95 - but they apparently don't.  Has anyone else encountered the same problem and can anyone give me a suggestion or is this a vagary of my machine?

Thanks.  Bill Ray.

comdotatdotcom@csi.com wrote:

Hi Lionel,

> Is Fractint designed for Soundblaster and
>cards of that kind at all, or should this be regarded
>as a bug?

 I wrote the sound drivers from the original Soundblaster card
documentation so an AWE32 should work as long as it's backward
compatible with the old card as regards the FM synth. I haven't tested
it on an AWE32 myself but believe it should work.... can anyone verify
this?

You could try checking the sound mixer control in windows,  try
turning up all the controls and if you're using the windows standard
mixer  then make sure you've checked out the mixer properties and have
all possible controls enabled.

Hope this helps,
                       Robin.

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--------------C82E4DB4E34C3669AC63232F-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) Does Soundblaster work? Date: 18 Sep 1999 00:18:12 -0700 At 01:45 AM 9/18/99 -0400, Bill Ray wrote: >... >But the music pars in Fractint 20 don't work in DOS. >... >When I type "set" at the DOS prompt the following line appears as the last >line in the display: >BLASTER= A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6 E620 Please don't be insulted, because you have probably tried this, but: have you tried the "diagnose" command? I have an 80 MHz 486DX2 running Win 3.1 (which is irrelevent, since I'm running in pure DOS mode) and the sound demo and other random pars are working fine (although I get the same polyphonic sounds whether I'm in x, y, or z mode). "Diagnose" should suggest the proper settings for your Soundblaster in DOS mode. Do you have any DOS games you can run (for comparison)? Good luck, Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jean-Pierre Louvet" Subject: (fractint) Contest French mirror Date: 18 Sep 1999 10:20:56 +0200 Please, use only this address if you have to send me a mail about any problem with the mirror (and send again your message here if you have no reply from me). I have a temporary problem with my other address. louvet@hse.iuta.u-bordeaux.fr Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: (fractint) Summer is ending, Fall approaches (2 pars) Date: 18 Sep 1999 22:14:59 -0400 Greetings. A word of explanation for the accompanying two pars. ds57 was generated from an original image by Paul Carlson (1998): Petals_Barnsley1. I made a slight change in the parameters, P1, P2 and max iterations, and changed the focal area (for want of a better expression) by recentering the image via the zoom box. The color map was originally Droz 38, but again I made a slight modificatioon for the purpose of this image. ds58 was generated by evolver set at defaults from ds57. Hope you like them, and hope no one is offended by the synthesis and modifcations as indicated above. ds57 { ; (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 18, 1999 t= 0:06:34.36 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 ; Color map: Droz 38, slightly modified for this image. reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_p.frm formulaname=petals_barnsley1 passes=1 corners=-0.771682992/-1.10764598/1.12084319/0.911969469/-0.79237028/1.14\ 842624 params=1/0.975/0.75/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000<8>`A7dB7hD8<3>xHB<9>dA7b97`87<3>T55G00<9>hKAkMBnOC<3>zWG<24>P\ 63N52M42<3>G00WGG<8>nP6pQ5rR4<3>zW0<9>SF0OE0LC0<3>751C92<8>cQ3fS3iU4<3>v\ `4<9>XM4VL3SJ3<2>KF3HD3G00<24>qPPsQQtRR<3>zWW<9>ZDDWBBU99<3>I11<9>hURkXU\ n_W<3>xkf<9>fIGdFDbCA<3>W00G00<8>fSPiWSlZV<3>xkfigg<6>aKK`HH_DD<3>W00000\ 000 } ds58 { ; (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 18, 1999 t= 0:08:50.09 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 ; Color map: Droz 38, slightly modified for this image. ; Generated by Evolver from ds57 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_p.frm formulaname=petals_barnsley1 passes=1 corners=-0.771682992/-1.10764598/1.12084319/0.911969469/-0.79237028/1.14\ 842624 params=0.9313638721884823/1.008722952970977/0.75/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000<8>`A7dB7hD8<3>xHB<9>dA7b97`87<3>T55G00<9>hKAkMBnOC<3>zWG<24>P\ 63N52M42<3>G00WGG<8>nP6pQ5rR4<3>zW0<9>SF0OE0LC0<3>751C92<8>cQ3fS3iU4<3>v\ `4<9>XM4VL3SJ3<2>KF3HD3G00<24>qPPsQQtRR<3>zWW<9>ZDDWBBU99<3>I11<9>hURkXU\ n_W<3>xkf<9>fIGdFDbCA<3>W00G00<8>fSPiWSlZV<3>xkfigg<6>aKK`HH_DD<3>W00000\ 000 } davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin S. Franzus" Subject: (fractint) DOS Date: 19 Sep 1999 00:07:44 -0400 I still have 6.22 DOS Setup disks.
Suppose I could make copies if anyone wanted them.
I still have Windows 3.1 Setup disks, also.
I even have DOS games and 5.25 floppies,
but I have no idea what's on them.
 
  Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: (fractint) Chebyshev + evolver Date: 20 Sep 1999 06:45:55 -0400 Below is a Chebyshev (ds60) and 3 more using evolver on ds60: ds60 { ; (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 20, 1999 t= 0:01:05.03 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 ; A Chebyshev reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_l.frm formulaname=l02-01 passes=1 center-mag=0.609965/0.567151/3.20515 params=0.385/0.0015 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=fmod outside=real decomp=256 colors=000VAY<8>L5NK4MJ3L<2>G1IE0GF0H<16>X5WY6XZ6Y_7Za7Z<3>e8be8bd8a<25>\ F2FE2ED1D<3>909100<29>G00H00H00<38>q54r54s54t54u54<4>w65w65w65w65w65w65<\ 2>w65l55a45303<13>505505505606<4>708708708708709809<18>B0DB0DB0D<3>D0ED0\ FD0FD0FD0FE0G<2>L4NO6QQ7TT9WVAY<3>eHigIljKnlLq<15>WBZ } ds61 { ; (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 20, 1999 t= 0:00:45.42 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 ; A Chebyshev from ds60 using evolver. reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_l.frm formulaname=l02-01 passes=1 center-mag=0.609965/0.567151/3.20515 params=-0.5047061067537462/-0.03930324716940824 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=fmod outside=real decomp=256 colors=G1I<6>M2NN3OP3P<7>X5WY6XZ6Y_7Za7Z<3>e8be8bd8a<25>F2FE2ED1D<3>9091\ 00<29>G00H00H00<38>q54r54s54t54u54<4>w65w65w65w65w65w65<2>w65l55a45303<1\ 3>505505505606<4>708708708708709809<18>B0DB0DB0D<3>D0ED0FD0FD0FD0FE0G<2>\ L4NO6QQ7TT9WVAY<3>eHigIljKnlLq<14>XC_WBZVAYU9XT9W<6>L5NK4MJ3L<2>G1IE0GF0\ H } ds62 { ; (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 20, 1999 t= 0:01:24.26 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 ; A Chebyshev from ds60 using evolver. reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_l.frm formulaname=l02-01 passes=1 center-mag=0.609965/0.567151/3.20515 params=-0.3376477858821375/-0.1108996704000977 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=fmod outside=real decomp=256 colors=VAYVAY<8>L5NK4MJ3L<2>G1IE0GF0H<16>X5WY6XZ6Y_7Za7Z<3>e8be8bd8a<25>\ F2FE2ED1D<3>909100<29>G00H00H00<38>q54r54s54t54u54<4>w65w65w65w65w65w65<\ 2>w65l55a45303<13>505505505606<4>708708708708709809<18>B0DB0DB0D<3>D0ED0\ FD0FD0FD0FE0G<2>L4NO6QQ7TT9WVAY<3>eHigIljKnlLq<15>WBZ } ds63 { ; (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 20, 1999 t= 0:01:36.51 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 ; A Chebyshev from ds60 using evolver. reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_l.frm formulaname=l02-01 passes=1 center-mag=0.609965/0.567151/3.20515 params=0.3377268288216804/-0.2026993469038972 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=fmod outside=real decomp=256 colors=VAYVAY<8>L5NK4MJ3L<2>G1IE0GF0H<16>X5WY6XZ6Y_7Za7Z<3>e8be8bd8a<25>\ F2FE2ED1D<3>909100<29>G00H00H00<38>q54r54s54t54u54<4>w65w65w65w65w65w65<\ 2>w65l55a45303<13>505505505606<4>708708708708709809<18>B0DB0DB0D<3>D0ED0\ FD0FD0FD0FE0G<2>L4NO6QQ7TT9WVAY<3>eHigIljKnlLq<15>WBZ } davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ricardo M. Forno" Subject: RE: (fractint) More on makefcfg Date: 20 Sep 1999 10:07:50 -0300 Tim: I also have a 486 with DOS (and Windows 3.11), and when I tried to use makecfg, I got the same error message. Cheers. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 10:17 AM > I make a DOS boot disk under Windows 95, and booted with no > config.sys or autoexec.bat from a floppy, and makefcfg worked, so > the Win95 DOS must have DPMI services built in. > > Last night I couldn't find an earlier version DOS boot disk, but I > must have one somewhere. The djgpp compiler comes with a > program called cwsdpmi.exe that provides DPMI services. It is > probably just a question of running this, however I can't test it until I > get a DOS environment with no DPMI. > > What I may do it put the 22k program on my FTP site (it's free) and > let those of you who can't run makefcfg try it. I have only had two > reports. > > Tim > > ------- End of forwarded message ------- > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: (fractint) v20.0 - potential bug report Date: 20 Sep 1999 22:41:39 -0700 Kerry Mitchell's starnear_man formula is misbehaving - or at least behaving differently - under v20.0 compared with v19.6. Can anyone confirm this? Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) v20.0 - potential bug report Date: 21 Sep 1999 01:02:41 -0500 Mark (Bud) Christenson wrote: > > Kerry Mitchell's starnear_man formula is misbehaving - > or at least behaving differently - under v20.0 compared > with v19.6. Can anyone confirm this? > Any particular PAR/s ?? http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nemo Nox" Subject: (fractint) fractint newbie questions Date: 21 Sep 1999 03:30:00 -0300 Hi, All! What better way to present yourself to the list than a couple of newbie questions? So here they go... * I have organized my FRM, IFS, L, MAP and PAR files, each flavour in its own directory, and my SSTOOLS.INI reflects this with the parameters FORMULAFILE, IFSFILE, LFILE and PARMFILE. But how do I make Fractint find my MAP files? * I am used to RGB settings ranging from 0 to 255, and the system used by Fractint still confuses me a bit. Are there any translation tables available anywhere? Well, I guess I have to warn you: if you show kindness to newbies and answer to my questions, there is a big chance I will send more. Thanks in advance! Nemonoxian greetings, Nemo Nox http://nemonox.homepage.com/ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) v20.0 - potential bug report Date: 21 Sep 1999 06:27:57 -0400 At 01:02 AM 9/21/1999 -0500, you wrote: >Mark (Bud) Christenson wrote: >> >> Kerry Mitchell's starnear_man formula is misbehaving - >> or at least behaving differently - under v20.0 compared >> with v19.6. Can anyone confirm this? >> > >Any particular PAR/s ?? I can confirm that there is a difference. Below are two pars. CAUTION: (1) When pasting the pars the color lines were breaking as if not enough room, although screen font size is "9" (New Courier), and number of characters is set to 80. Should have been enough. I have manually widened the screen, how that will effect the reception as far as not having the line split I am not sure. (2) Note that in the second par I have the formula file as "kmitchel.frm" rather than s.frm. ================================================================================================= Times New Romands67 { ; (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 21, 1999 t= 0:01:34.96 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_s.frm formulaname=starnear_man center-mag=-1.905e-006/1.0165e-005/0.6666712 params=1/1/0.8/1 float=y decomp=256 colors=00000e0e00eee00e0eeL0eeeLLLLLzLzLLzzzLLzLzzzLzzz000555<<3>HHHKKKOO\ O<<3>ccchhhmmmssszzz00z<<3>z0z<<3>z00<<3>zz0<<3>0z0<<3>0zz<<2>0GzVVz<<3>zVz<<3>zV\ V<<3>zzV<<3>VzV<<3>Vzz<<2>Vbzhhz<<3>zhz<<3>zhh<<3>zzh<<3>hzh<<3>hzz<<2>hlz00S<<3>S0\ S<<3>S00<<3>SS0<<3>0S0<<3>0SS<<2>07SEES<<3>SES<<3>SEE<<3>SSE<<3>ESE<<3>ESS<<2>EHSKK\ S<<2>QKSSKSSKQSKOSKMSKK<<2>SQKSSKQSKOSKMSKKSK<<2>KSQKSSKQSKOSKMS00G<<3>G0G<<3\ >G00<<3>GG0<<3>0G0<<3>0GG<<2>04G88G<<2>E8GG8GG8EG8CG8AG88<<2>GE8GG8EG8CG8AG88G\ 8<<2>8GE8GG8EG8CG8AGBBG<<2>FBGGBGGBFGBDGBCGBB<<2>GFBGGBFGBDGBCGBBGB<<2>BGFBG\ GBFGBDGBCG000<<6>000 } ========================================================================================= star { ; (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 21, 1999 t= 0:01:44.47 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=kmitchel.frm formulaname=starnear_man center-mag=-1.905e-006/1.0165e-005/0.6666712 params=1/1/0.8/1 float=y decomp=256 colors=00000e0e00eee00e0eeL0eeeLLLLLzLzLLzzzLLzLzzzLzzz000555<<3>HHHKKKOO\ OSSSWWW___ccchhhmmmssszzz00z<<3>z0z<<3>z00<<3>zz0<<3>0z0<<3>0zz<<2>0GzVVz<<3>zV\ z<<3>zVV<<3>zzV<<3>VzV<<3>Vzz<<2>Vbzhhz<<3>zhz<<3>zhh<<3>zzh<<3>hzh<<3>hzz<<2>hlz00\ S<<3>S0S<<3>S00<<3>SS0<<3>0S0<<3>0SS<<2>07SEES<<3>SES<<3>SEE<<3>SSE<<3>ESE<<3>ESS<<2\ >EHSKKS<<2>QKSSKSSKQSKOSKMSKK<<2>SQKSSKQSKOSKMSKKSK<<2>KSQKSSKQSKOSKMS00G<<3\ >G0G<<3>G00<<3>GG0<<3>0G0<<3>0GG<<2>04G88G<<2>E8GG8GG8EG8CG8AG88<<2>GE8GG8EG8CG\ 8AG88G8<<2>8GE8GG8EG8CG8AGBBG<<2>FBGGBGGBFGBDGBCGBB<<2>GFBGGBFGBDGBCGBBGB<<2\ >BGFBGGBFGBDGBCG000<<6>000 } davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick.grasso@hrads.com Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint newbie questions Date: 21 Sep 1999 11:07:28 -0400 Welcome to the list Nemo: >>>* I have organized my FRM, IFS, L, MAP and PAR files, each flavour in its own directory, and my SSTOOLS.INI reflects this with the parameters FORMULAFILE, IFSFILE, LFILE and PARMFILE. But how do I make Fractint find my MAP files?<<< The same way as FRM, IFS, etc., e.g.: map=c:\fractint\mymaps >>>* I am used to RGB settings ranging from 0 to 255, and the system used by Fractint still confuses me a bit. Are there any translation tables available anywhere?<<< If you look inside a fractint MAP file you will notice that it defines colors in 0 to 255 RGB triplets as do most 24 bit systems. However, if you look more closely you will see that all the numbers are divisible by 4. This gives you only 262144 to choose from. This is the number of colors that were available on the original VGA video cards for DOS. Also, as you probably already know, fractint is limited to a pallete of only 256 colors at a time, so you will see 256 triplets in a map file. I don't think fractint will crash if you put a number in a map file that is not divisible by 4 - it will just round it off. Does this answer your question? If not, please email me. Nick Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BeyerML@aol.com Subject: (fractint) evolver Date: 21 Sep 1999 16:55:07 EDT There is a new expression in fractint discussions *evolver*. Can anybody please tell us oldfashioned 19.6 users what it means and what it is all about? Thanks. Marie-Luise Beyer Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ricardo M. Forno" Subject: (fractint) RE: Bug in the evolver Date: 21 Sep 1999 17:56:38 -0300 Robin: Did you receive the .par and the files I sent you some days ago? Could you spot the problem? Thanks again. ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 11:08 PM > > Hi Ricardo, > > >Once the thumbnails where displayed, I typed Ctrl-E to change "yes" > >to "no" in order to see the image, > > BTW, 'b' works as a shortcut for this whilst in the evolver. > > >without having moved to some other thumbnail. > Hmmmm.. does the same happen if you move to another and then back > again? > > >The image was totally changed, but when typing z, the parameters > >strangely were the same as the initial ones! > > Now that is very bizzare, though you should also check the x screen to > see > that some radically different inside or outside colouring method hasn't > been selected. > > If you can make this happen consistantly then it would help me sort > things out if you could mail me a par for the starting image or if you > hit S just after the first set of images is generated and then mail me > the file that was saved. > > Cheers, > Robin. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: comdotatdotcom@csi.com Subject: RE: (fractint) RE: Bug in the evolver Date: 22 Sep 1999 0:29 0000 Hi Ricardo, >Did you receive the .par and the files I sent you some days ago? >Could you spot the problem? Yep, thanks, I haven't had a chance to go bug hunting yet though but rest assured I'll get round to it soon, have you found any similar probems since or is it just that one image? Cheers, Robin. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: comdotatdotcom@csi.com Subject: RE: (fractint) evolver Date: 22 Sep 1999 0:19 0000 Hi Marie, >There is a new expression in fractint discussions *evolver*. Can anybody >please tell us oldfashioned 19.6 users what it means and what it is all about? The evolver (or parameter evolver / explorer to give it it's full title) is a new addition to fractint which enables the erstwhile fractanaut to map out the effects of changing parameters on a fractal. It will put onscreen many small versions of the base image with parameters changed so that the user can explore the way in which the fractal varies when things are changed on the X,Y,Z menus. This can be done in an orderly fashion with parameters varying smoothly across the screen to form a map of parameter space which can be zoomed into and explored. Alternatively there is evolving mode where everything is varied at random and the user just needs to pick the image variation that they like the best to use as the seed for another generation of images. Things can be set up so that the amout of random mutation from one generation to the next is reduced in order to fine tune things. The evolver is really best seen rather than explained so why not download v20.0 now and check out the demos included! Hope this tempts you :-) Robin. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eu" Subject: (fractint) Contest Date: 12 Apr 1999 21:21:46 -0300 > HI, Damien. > The pages are great, but is there a more simple way to download the entire > site? In college, where I have a fast conection, I don´t have permission to > isntall Getright or other progs, couldn´t you zip the categories and put a > link to it? I really wnat to vote, but conection time here in Brazil is > still expensive :-). > But it´s just a suggestion. > I really enjoye the site! > > Bresslau > > Fernando _____ _ ___ |) |. | |(_`|) > bresslau@ozdobe.org / ' ' ) / / ) | ()|| ~ |_|,_)| > __________ ,-/-, /--/ /--< > \ \ \ \ \ \ (_/ernando / (_enrique /____)resslau \¨-._ > ==**********============================================================`> > / / / / / / fernando_bresslau@yahoo.com /_.*¨´ > ¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨ http://www.ozdobe.org > http://www.jugend.com.br http://polijr.mcca.ep.usp.br > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eu" Subject: (fractint) Fw: sound pars Date: 21 Sep 1999 21:31:40 -0300 I just managed to setup sound on my system, and liked the sound-demo. Has anybody spent some time in a sound par? Could someone send me one so I can hear what fractint is capable of? Thanks from Brazil, Bresslau _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest Date: 21 Sep 1999 19:57:02 -0500 Bresslau, >> The pages are great, but is there a more simple way to download the >> entire site? Yes, as soon as I get the CD set up, burned, and mailed out to the volunteer duplicators, I can get the files zipped up and available for download. It's a big download, too; 75M when all zipped together. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest Date: 21 Sep 1999 20:24:46 -0500 Greetings folks, A few technical problems with the marking/unmarking mechanism, especially with regards to Netscape, have been fixed. Thanks to several people (but especially Ken Childress) for bringing these problems to my attention. Voting is now fully functional. You may submit your votes and you should receive a confirmation code via e-mail. You must then mail back that confirmation code for your vote to be registered. CDs will be sent out to volunteer duplicators tomorrow, so they should start appearing in mailboxes next week. Several people have ordered, I will see if I can start confirming receipt of these tomorrow. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nemo Nox" Subject: (fractint) maps Date: 22 Sep 1999 00:41:01 -0300 Nick wrote: >Welcome to the list Nemo: Thanks! >The same way as FRM, IFS, etc., e.g.: >map=c:\fractint\mymaps Aha! That's not in the docs. I tried to follow the pattern and used MAPFILE=c:\fractint\mymaps but it didn't work, of course. Now it's fixed, thanks! >If you look inside a fractint MAP file you will >notice that it defines colors in 0 to 255 RGB >triplets as do most 24 bit systems. However, if >you look more closely you will see that all the >numbers are divisible by 4. Does this >answer your question? If not, please email me. Actually, it didn't. But thanks anyway. I think I have found a solution to my problem: a program called Map Generator, which allows me to enter the colours in familiar 0-255 RGB mode and then outputs the map to Fractint format. Do you know it? Nemonoxian greetings, Nemo Nox http://nemonox.homepage.com/ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) maps Date: 21 Sep 1999 23:29:41 -0500 Nemo Nox wrote: > > I have found a solution to my problem: a program > called Map Generator, which allows me to enter > the colours in familiar 0-255 RGB mode and then > outputs the map to Fractint format. Do you know it? > You might also try Ron Barnett's utility program "MakeMap". There is a useful list of information found at: http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/iFAQ/Resource.htm P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nemo Nox" Subject: (fractint) MakeMap Date: 22 Sep 1999 01:58:36 -0300 Paul N. Lee wrote: >You might also try Ron Barnett's utility program "MakeMap". >There is a useful list of information found at: >http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/iFAQ/Resource.htm I have tried that, but the link to MakeMap (http://members.aol.com/RBarn0001/makemap.zip) leads to an error message. Thanks anyway. Nemonoxian greetings, Nemo Nox http://nemonox.homepage.com/ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Jemison Subject: (fractint) evolver Date: 22 Sep 1999 02:09:28 -0400 Marie, The best way to find out about the evolver is to run the demo - demo.bat = - that is included in the new Fractint20. While you're at it, you might giv= e the sound demo a try as well Bill Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marie Drozdis" Subject: RE: (fractint) maps Date: 22 Sep 1999 09:45:32 -0700 Paul, I've been looking for Ron Barnett's MakeMap since I lost it in the Great Crash of '98. (My backup disk wouldn't copy, either. It was corrupted, maybe from age?) Following the links on the site you mentioned doesn't lead to the program. Clicking on Barnett's link, it says that it can't be found. I couldn't find it on CompuServe, either. Making maps is one of my pleasures with Fractint. I really would like to replace MakeMap in my collection of programs. It was effective, yet simple enough to use for the newbie I was then. Well, back to the search for it. Marie :) mariedrozdis@att.net -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Paul N. Lee Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 9:30 PM Nemo Nox wrote: > > I have found a solution to my problem: a program > called Map Generator, which allows me to enter > the colours in familiar 0-255 RGB mode and then > outputs the map to Fractint format. Do you know it? > You might also try Ron Barnett's utility program "MakeMap". There is a useful list of information found at: http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/iFAQ/Resource.htm P.N.L. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marie Drozdis" Subject: RE: (fractint) evolver Date: 22 Sep 1999 09:50:08 -0700 Bill, giving the sound demo a try was a BIG mistake! Between making and playing your music, and watching new fractals evolve, I've not been able to get back to the basics. The music is a wonderful addition. I've been running the program whenever I have a free moment, and even when I don't Marie :) -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Bill Jemison Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 11:09 PM Marie, The best way to find out about the evolver is to run the demo - demo.bat - that is included in the new Fractint20. While you're at it, you might give the sound demo a try as well Bill Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Diosnel Herrnsdorf Subject: Re: (fractint) maps Date: 22 Sep 1999 10:19:31 -0300 Marie Drozdis escribi=F3: >=20 > Paul, I've been looking for Ron Barnett's MakeMap since I lost it in th= e > Great Crash of '98. (My backup disk wouldn't copy, either. It was corru= pted, > maybe from age?) Following the links on the site you mentioned doesn'= t > lead to the program. Clicking on Barnett's link, it says that it can't = be > found. I couldn't find it on CompuServe, either. I have a copy of Mapeng2.zip, a map generator. If you want you can ask for it (privately), and I'll mail it to you. However, if you prefer to download it from the web, go to http://members.tripod.com/softwork/map. The program was writen by an Italian guy: Paolo Guagliumi Strada Braia, 13 15030 - Terruggia - (AL) E-Mail: pguagliumi@usa.net Best regards, Diosnel Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick.grasso@hrads.com Subject: RE: (fractint) maps Date: 22 Sep 1999 10:19:22 -0400 Marie wrote: >>> Paul, I've been looking for Ron Barnett's MakeMap since I lost it in the Great Crash of '98. (My backup disk wouldn't copy, either. It was corrupted, maybe from age?) Following the links on the site you mentioned doesn't lead to the program. Clicking on Barnett's link, it says that it can't be found. I couldn't find it on CompuServe, either. <<< His new web site is at: http://www.hiddendimension.com/index.htm Nick Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marie Drozdis" Subject: RE: (fractint) maps Date: 22 Sep 1999 10:36:39 -0700 Thanks to all who directed me to the MakeMap program file. I didn't expect such quick results from my message. The program is safely ensconced on my drive now. Marie :) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) Fw: sound pars Date: 22 Sep 1999 11:45:19 -0400 Hi Bresslau, >> I just managed to setup sound on my system, and liked the sound-demo.= >> Has anybody spent some time in a sound par? Could someone send me one >> so I can hear what fractint is capable of? fract200.par has nine music pars. Cheers, - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Wilson Subject: (fractint) Another useful color utility Date: 22 Sep 1999 08:50:04 -0700 A friend pointed me to this useful little color utility, DotColor, which picks colors from *any* screen. It's great, once you figure out how to use it, and close it. (No instructions, but it's FREE) Get it from: http://www.inetis.com/english/solutions_dotcolor.htm John W. mailto:johnw1@attcanada.net Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ricardo M. Forno" Subject: RE: (fractint) RE: Bug in the evolver Date: 22 Sep 1999 13:02:29 -0300 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF04FA.BA09C200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Robin. Yes, there are some other pars with similar problems. I am attaching another one. Thanks again. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 12:29 AM > Hi Ricardo, > > >Did you receive the .par and the files I sent you some days ago? > >Could you spot the problem? > > Yep, thanks, I haven't had a chance to go bug hunting yet though but > rest assured I'll get round to it soon, have you found any similar > probems since or is it just that one image? > > Cheers, > Robin. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF04FA.BA09C200 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="agatha.par" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="agatha.par" Agatha { ; R. Forno reset=1960 type=fn(z)+fn(pix) function=asinh/sqr corners=-1.002528/0.9833536/1.311123/-1.33672/0.9833536/-1.33672 params=5/-7/0.6/5.9 float=y maxiter=512 inside=bof60 logmap=yes distest=1/71/1024/768 periodicity=-1 colors=0000z0<15>000<15>00y<12>007003000<16>z0W<13>803401000<2>A0AD0EH0I\ K0MN0P<8>p0v<12>A0A707303000443<14>zzy<15>000L00<13>z00<2>p00l00h00d00a0\ 0<9>000<15>zX0<15>000<15>ut0<15>000GA3<12>2v0 cyclerange=0/255 } ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF04FA.BA09C200-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Jemison Subject: (fractint) Fw: sound pars Date: 22 Sep 1999 12:25:49 -0400 Bresslau, Have you looked at the fract200.par which is included w/fractint20? It ha= s several music pars which should get you started. Bill Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Jemison Subject: (fractint) sound Date: 22 Sep 1999 12:52:19 -0400 Marie, <<...giving the sound demo a try was a BIG mistake! >> :))) << The music is a wonderful addition. >> I agree wholeheartedly! Robin Bussel and Jonathan Osuch deserve a ton of credit and thanks for making this feature happen. And, of course, Tim, whose visionary creativity long ago provided for a w= ay for a sight-impaired fractal fan to experience chaos in another dimension= . Long Live Fractint!!! Bill Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lynda Sweetman Subject: Re: (fractint) Fw: sound pars Date: 22 Sep 1999 15:27:17 -0400 Bill Jemison wrote: > > Bresslau, > > Have you looked at the fract200.par which is included w/fractint20? It has > several music pars which should get you started. > > Bill Sound pars 4 and 5 are very ambient and nice. How do you export a sound par file into a MIDI format? I would like to open them in Media Player or a suitable sequencing program. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick.grasso@hrads.com Subject: Re: (fractint) maps Date: 22 Sep 1999 16:04:59 -0400 Hello again Nemo, You wrote: >>> Actually, it didn't. But thanks anyway. I think I have found a solution to my problem: a program called Map Generator, which allows me to enter the colours in familiar 0-255 RGB mode and then outputs the map to Fractint format. Do you know it?<<< There are several programs that generate fractint maps, try these links: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/9943/ http://www.hiddendimension.com/futils.htm http://members.tripod.com/softwork/map The map editor that is built into fractint allows you to create maps by directly entering numbers, however I think you enter numbers between 0 - 63, for example, if you enter 10 20 30, it will actually write 40 80 120 to the map file, so this is probably not what you want. Nick Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nemo Nox" Subject: (fractint) maps Date: 22 Sep 1999 23:44:54 -0300 Nick Grasso wrote: >There are several programs that generate >fractint maps, try these links: >http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/9943/ >http://www.hiddendimension.com/futils.htm >http://members.tripod.com/softwork/map My thanks to all who sent me hints on how to get map editting programs. I have downloaded them all and so far I am enjoying MakeMap and MapGenerator the most. Perhaps some day I'll be brave enough to show my fractals to the list. :-) Nemonoxian greetings, Nemo Nox http://nemonox.homepage.com/ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: (fractint) v20.0 - potential bug report Date: 23 Sep 1999 18:42:25 +1200 At 06:27 21/09/1999 -0400, davides wrote: > >I can >confirm >that >there is a difference. Below are two pars. CAUTION: >(1) >When >pasting the >pars the color lines were breaking as if not >enough >room, >although screen >font size is "9" (New Courier), and number >of >characters is >set to 80. >Should have been enough. I have manually >widened the screen, >how that >will effect the reception as far as not >having the line split I am >not >sure. > The Internet convention on text line widths is 72 characters/line. Since your pars came through XML-formatted, though, they were received in times roman (and too wide for the default width on my email client). (I have no idea why the reply is linebreaked like that). Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fernando Henrique Bresslau" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fw: sound pars Date: 22 Sep 1999 21:19:56 -0300 Thanks every one to pointing me to fract200.par. And Linda has a good question I heard elsewhere on the list. I tried to record with windows recorder when I was generating music in diskvideo mode in a dos box, but it didn´t work. My soundcard is duplex (or something simmilar) and I heard this should work. Any suggestions? Thanks, Bresslau. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Terry Erickson" Subject: (fractint) Hi and ALOHA! Date: 23 Sep 1999 13:37:27 -0700 That is Hawaiian - my favorite word for greetings and love. MAHALO means thank you for all the blood(?), sweat and tears, you guys -you know who you are- ! I'm saying ALOHA and Mahalo nui loa to all you folks who are using computers to make beautiful things, even if the beautiful things are no more than fantastical arrays of bits and bytes, and especially if the beautiful things become something greater. It's good to be on the creative side of the computer-human interface. I do have a question. Are there any advantages to running Fractint on WinDOS, as I call it, or, I mean, Will I miss out on anything if I reformat my little 486 and install DOS 6.22 on it for Fractint? Aloha and Mahalo again. Terry krietor@pacifier.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BeyerML@aol.com Subject: (fractint) fractint evolver Date: 23 Sep 1999 17:00:37 EDT Robin wrote: > ... > The evolver is really best seen rather than explained so why not download=20 V20.0=20 > now and check out the demos included! > Hope this tempts you :-) > Robin. Many thanks to Robin for his detailed explanation of the evolver. It seems t= o=20 be a very useful tool. I am sure many other members will read Robin=E2=80=99= s letter=20 with interest.=20 Thanks to Bill Jemison who also encouraged me to try V20.0. Marie-Luise Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Jemison Subject: (fractint) Fw: sound pars Date: 23 Sep 1999 18:13:42 -0400 Bresslau, << I tried to record with windows recorder when I was generating music i= n < Subject: (fractint) ? Date: 24 Sep 1999 00:29:58 +0200 Hello, (Sorry for my bad english) I maintain a little site. Every month, i invite a fractal artist (lee skinner, sylvie gallet...) I hope that you accept the third place... Luc-Andre Rey http://www.aour.ch Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian E. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) ? Date: 23 Sep 1999 19:26:13 -0400 Hi Luc-Andre, I accept 3rd place to Sylvie and Lee. 8^) I really haven't made my new galleries public, but you can have a look at: http://www.fractalfusion.com/ Be sure to check out the fractal music as well, guaranteed to be unlike any you've ever heard. Regards, Brian E. Jones -- www.fractalfusion.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Les St Clair" Subject: (fractint) Evolver-Crazy! (Pars) Date: 25 Sep 1999 10:06:57 +0100 Hi folks, Here's a good starting point for evolver... If you've not tried this new feature of v20.0 just load up the par then press Alt-1. Also try Alt-2, 3, 4 etc. to vary the degree of randomness Have fun, Les eCrazy_00 { ; t= 0:01:01.73 ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200 ; (c) 1999 by Les St Clair [Par date: Sep 21, 1999] ; e-mail to: les_stclair@compuserve.com reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_g.frm formulaname=gallet-5-01 passes=1 center-mag=3.785e-006/-9.25e-007/1.718212 params=0.4/0/2/1.1/0.5/-0.6 float=y maxiter=255 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255 colors=yd4<3>ym1zp0zs0zw0zz0<4>ye1ya1yY1<3>xH2<9>N61J51F41<3>000<4>000<2\ >000<3>D08H0AJ09<3>T05V04Y03<2>d00<20>K6GJ6HI6H<2>F7JD8KA9J<2>0BG<23>1O_\ 1P`1Pa<3>1Sc1Sd1Te<3>4Ve4Wf5Wf6Xf7Xf<43>nsbotbptb<2>svbtwbuwd<2>zzm<3>oj\ jlfiibhfZgcUf<3>OIQKFMGCH<3>000<4>000<3>000UUU___oie<3>i_XhXVfVS<3>bLK`I\ I_GF<3>T55<9>kA9mB9oBA<2>uDBwECwGC<8>xa5 savename=ecrazy00 } p.s. here's a few examples of what I found using the above staring point: eCrazy_09 { ; t= 0:03:31.19 ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200 ; (c) 1999 by Les St Clair [Par date: Sep 21, 1999] ; e-mail to: les_stclair@compuserve.com reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_g.frm formulaname=gallet-5-01 passes=1 center-mag=3.785e-006/-9.25e-007/4.850143 params=2.485726493118076/-0.5058442945646535/-0.6079592272713401/-1.2818\ 17072054201/-0.1911526841029084/1.14001281777398 float=y maxiter=255 inside=epsiloncross decomp=256 periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255 colors=0EK<18>1O_1P`1Pa<3>1Sc1Sd1Te<3>4Ve4Wf5Wf6Xf7Xf<43>nsbotbptb<2>svb\ twbuwd<2>zzm<3>ojjlfiibhfZgcUf<3>OIQKFMGCH<3>000<4>000<3>000UUU___oie<3>\ i_XhXVfVS<3>bLK`II_GF<3>T55<9>kA9mB9oBA<2>uDBwECwGC<10>yf3yi3yk2ym1<3>zz\ 0<4>ye1ya1yY1<3>xH2<9>N61J51F41<3>000<4>000<2>000<3>D08H0AJ09<3>T05V04Y0\ 3<2>d00<20>K6GJ6HI6H<2>F7JD8KA9J<2>0BG<3>0DJ savename=ecrazy09 } eCrazy_32 { ; Puff the Magic Dragon t= 0:04:04.15 ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200 ; (c) 1999 by Les St Clair [Par date: Sep 24, 1999] ; e-mail to: les_stclair@compuserve.com reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_g.frm formulaname=gallet-5-01 passes=1 center-mag=-0.27377/-0.47645/2.686313/1/30 params=5.611706900234992/3.64098025452437/4.324045533616139/0.3712179937\ 131872/-2.790322580645161/-0.8563554795983765 float=y maxiter=255 inside=zmag outside=mult decomp=16 periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255 colors=000000000<2>A06D09G0D<7>f0di0hl0k<3>z1z<9>`4XZ4UW4R<2>O5IL6FK6G<3\ >G7IF7JD8K<3>0BG<23>1O_1P`1Pa<3>1Sc1Sd1Te<3>4Ve4Wf5Wf6Xf7Xf<43>nsbotbptb\ <2>svbtwbuwd<2>zzm<3>ojjlfiibhfZgcUf<3>OIQKFMGCH<3>000<4>000<3>000UUU___\ oie<3>i_XhXVfVS<3>bLK`II_GF<3>T55<9>kA9mB9oBA<2>uDBwECwGC<10>yf3yi3yk2ym\ 1<3>zz0<4>ye1ya1yY1<3>xH2<9>N61J51F41<3>000<4>000 savename=ecrazy32 } eCrazy_38 { ; t= 0:01:39.80 ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200 ; (c) 1999 by Les St Clair [Par date: Sep 24, 1999] ; e-mail to: les_stclair@compuserve.com reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_g.frm formulaname=gallet-5-01 passes=1 center-mag=3.785e-006/-0.0196682/0.7762744 params=6.353032013916441/12.0467848750267/2.13907284768212/4.08242133854\ 1826/-0.1290780358287298/-3.000311288796655 float=y maxiter=255 inside=atan decomp=32 periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255 colors=YDD<2>T55<9>kA9mB9oBA<2>uDBwECwGC<10>yf3yi3yk2ym1<3>zz0<4>ye1ya1y\ Y1<3>xH2<9>N61J51F41<3>000<4>000<2>000<2>A06D09G0D<7>f0di0hl0k<3>z1z<9>`\ 4XZ4UW4R<2>O5IL6FK6G<3>G7IF7JD8K<3>0BG<23>1O_1P`1Pa<3>1Sc1Sd1Te<3>4Ve4Wf\ 5Wf6Xf7Xf<43>nsbotbptb<2>svbtwbuwd<2>zzm<3>ojjlfiibhfZgcUf<3>OIQKFMGCH<3\ >000<4>000<3>000UUU___oie<3>i_XhXVfVS<5>_GF savename=ecrazy38 } eCrazy_40 { ; t= 0:02:50.22 ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200 ; (c) 1999 by Les St Clair [Par date: Sep 24, 1999] ; e-mail to: les_stclair@compuserve.com reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_g.frm formulaname=gallet-5-01 passes=1 center-mag=0.167536/-0.0196682/0.2513269 params=1.942802209540087/13.62849818414868/-0.229377117221594/2.46820581\ 6827906/0.3344676046021915/-2.84420911282693 float=y maxiter=255 inside=atan outside=mult decomp=64 periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255 colors=yf3yi3yk2ym1<3>zz0<4>ye1ya1yY1<3>xH2<9>N61J51F41<3>000<4>000<2>00\ 0<2>A06D09G0D<7>f0di0hl0k<3>z1z<9>`4XZ4UW4R<2>O5IL6FK6G<3>G7IF7JD8K<3>0B\ G<23>1O_1P`1Pa<3>1Sc1Sd1Te<3>4Ve4Wf5Wf6Xf7Xf<43>nsbotbptb<2>svbtwbuwd<2>\ zzm<3>ojjlfiibhfZgcUf<3>OIQKFMGCH<3>000<4>000<3>000UUU___oie<3>i_XhXVfVS\ <3>bLK`II_GF<3>T55<9>kA9mB9oBA<2>uDBwECwGC<9>yd4 savename=ecrazy40 } eCrazy_41 { ; t= 0:03:04.16 ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200 ; (c) 1999 by Les St Clair [Par date: Sep 24, 1999] ; e-mail to: les_stclair@compuserve.com reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_g.frm formulaname=gallet-5-01 passes=1 center-mag=-0.402519/0.668329/1.840198 params=3.366399121066928/13.46195867793817/1.440321054719689/3.303100680\ 562761/-0.9633320108645891/-2.984197515793329 float=y maxiter=255 inside=atan outside=imag decomp=128 periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255 colors=A9J<2>0BG<23>1O_1P`1Pa<3>1Sc1Sd1Te<3>4Ve4Wf5Wf6Xf7Xf<43>nsbotbptb\ <2>svbtwbuwd<2>zzm<3>ojjlfiibhfZgcUf<3>OIQKFMGCH<3>000<8>000<4>000kaZ<3>\ eSQdQOcNM<3>YDDWBAV88T55<9>kA9mB9oBA<2>uDBwECwGC<10>yf3yi3yk2ym1<3>zz0<4\ >ye1ya1yY1<3>xH2<9>N61J51F41<3>000<4>000<2>000<2>A06D09G0D<7>f0di0hl0k<3\ >z1z<9>`4XZ4UW4R<2>O5IL6FK6G<2>H6IG7IF7JD8K savename=ecrazy41 } eCrazy_42 { ; t= 0:07:29.67 ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200 ; (c) 1999 by Les St Clair [Par date: Sep 24, 1999] ; e-mail to: les_stclair@compuserve.com reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_g.frm formulaname=gallet-5-01 passes=1 center-mag=-0.502724/0.871087/18.1893/1/-30 params=3.366399121066928/13.46195867793817/1.440321054719689/3.303100680\ 562761/-0.9633320108645891/-2.984197515793329 float=y maxiter=255 inside=atan outside=imag decomp=128 periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255 colors=I6H<2>F7JD8KA9J<2>0BG<23>1O_1P`1Pa<3>1Sc1Sd1Te<3>4Ve4Wf5Wf6Xf7Xf<\ 43>nsbotbptb<2>svbtwbuwd<2>zzm<3>ojjlfiibhfZgcUf<3>OIQKFMGCH<3>000<8>000\ <4>000<10>M44O44Q44<3>Z76`77b87<4>kA9mB9oBA<2>uDBwECwGC<10>yf3yi3yk2ym1<\ 3>zz0<4>ye1ya1yY1<3>xH2<9>N61J51F41<3>000<4>000<2>000<2>A06D09G0D<7>f0di\ 0hl0k<3>z1z<9>`4XZ4UW4R<2>O5IL6FK6GJ6H savename=ecrazy42 } eCrazy_45 { ; t= 0:01:48.75 ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200 ; (c) 1999 by Les St Clair [Par date: Sep 24, 1999] ; e-mail to: les_stclair@compuserve.com reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_g.frm formulaname=gallet-5-01 passes=1 center-mag=-0.471023/0.75893/2.007066 params=3.485146641438032/12.68730735190893/6.052705465865047/-1.59896542\ 2528764/-6.557191686758018/-0.02219306009094529 float=y maxiter=255 inside=zmag outside=real decomp=64 periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255 colors=Z76<6>kA9mB9oBA<2>uDBwECwGC<10>yf3yi3yk2ym1<3>zz0<4>ye1ya1yY1<3>x\ H2<9>N61J51F41<3>000<4>000<2>000<3>D09<41>2CJ2CJ2CK1DK1DK<3>0FN0GN0HO<13\ >1O_1P`1Pa<3>1Sc1Sd1Te<3>4Ve4Wf5Wf6Xf7Xf<43>nsbotbptb<2>svbtwbuwd<2>zzm<\ 3>ojjlfiibhfZgcUf<3>OIQKFMGCH<3>000<5>000<4>000<3>UMK`RPhXV<3>cNMbLK`II<\ 4>T55V65X66 savename=ecrazy45 } eCrazy_48 { ; t= 0:04:01.56 ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200 ; (c) 1999 by Les St Clair [Par date: Sep 25, 1999] ; e-mail to: les_stclair@compuserve.com reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_g.frm formulaname=gallet-5-01 passes=1 center-mag=3.785e-006/-9.25e-007/2.370135 params=3.569377727591785/-2.550279244361706/4.755912961210974/-5.0136204\ 10779137/-1.625461592455824/0.5893978698080385 float=y maxiter=255 inside=bof61 decomp=256 periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255 colors=wxgxyjzzm<3>ojjlfiibhfZgcUf<3>OIQKFMGCH<3>000<8>000<3>000100310<2\ 7>mL7nM7pN8<2>uP8wQ9xS8<5>yf3yi3yk2ym1<3>zz0<4>ye1ya1yY1<3>xH2<9>N61J51F\ 41<3>000<4>000<2>000<3>D08H0AJ09<3>T05V04Y03<2>d00<20>K6GJ6HI6H<2>F7JD8K\ A9J<2>0BG<23>1O_1P`1Pa<3>1Sc1Sd1Te<3>4Ve4Wf5Wf6Xf7Xf<43>nsbotbptb<2>svbt\ wbuwd savename=ecrazy48 } frm:Gallet-5-01 {; Sylvie Gallet [101324,3444], 1996 sq3 = sqrt(3), sq32 = 0.5*sq3, l = real(p1), h = l*sq32, l3 = 3*l h2 = 2*h, h3 = 3*h, h4 = h2 + h2, l15 = 0.5*l3 c1 = 0.5*l + flip(h), c2 = l, rot = -0.5 + flip(sq32) y = imag(pixel), x = real(pixel) - y/sq3 y = y - floor(y/h3)*h3, x = x - floor(x/l3)*l3 + y/sq3 d = 0.5*y + sq32*x - h3, x = x - d*sq3*(d>0), y = y - d*(d>0) y = y - h2*(y>h2) t = y < sq3*x-h4, x = x - l15*t, y = y + h*t q1 = abs(floor(y / h)) d2 = -sq32*x + 0.5*y, q2 = abs(floor(d2 / h)) d3 = sq32*x + 0.5*y - h, q3 = abs(floor(d3 / h)) q = q1 + q2 + q3, odd = q != 2*floor(q/2) y = y*(odd==0) + (h2-y)*odd t = y > -sq3*x + h4, x = x - l15*t, y = y - h*t z = x + flip(y), z = z * (y<=h) + ((z-c1)*conj(rot) + c1) * (y>h) x = real(z), z = z * (x=l) z = c = p2*z + p3 : z = z*z + c |z| <= 4 ;SOURCE: gallet-5.frm } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fractalcat@juno.com Subject: (fractint) Parameter Explorer question Date: 26 Sep 1999 12:22:45 -0400 Please forgive me if this question has already been asked. I have just set up the new Fractint and I am extremely impressed with the Parameter Explorer feature. I have one question. Say I have generated a screenful of image windows, and there are two or three that I desperately wish to see and/or save. As far as I can tell, I only have the option of looking at and saving one small window, and the others are gone for all time. Is there a way to investigate more than one window per screen? Thank you.--Alice ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Les St Clair" Subject: Re: (fractint) Parameter Explorer question Date: 26 Sep 1999 19:48:39 +0100 Hi Alice, > Say I have generated a screenful > of image windows, and there are two or three that I desperately wish to > see and/or save. As far as I can tell, I only have the option of looking > at and saving one small window, and the others are gone for all time. Is > there a way to investigate more than one window per screen? Good news (and bad news)... Just save the Evolver screen as you would a normal image. When you restore the image you can carry on and explore any of the cells you wish. The bad news, however, is that sometimes (in my experience) the restored screen starts mutating all over again and there is no chance of getting back any of the images! This happens to about one in four of the evolver screens that I save. I should report this as a bug (Robin are you reading??). cheers, Les Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Parameter Explorer question Date: 26 Sep 1999 14:15:34 -0600 Les wrote: > The bad news, however, is that sometimes (in my experience) the restored screen > starts mutating all over again and there is no chance of getting back any of the > images! This happens to about one in four of the evolver screens that I save. I > should report this as a bug (Robin are you reading??). Please report this to the bug report web page. It's OK to discuss bugs here but don't assume that discussing them here means we see the messages. (Very often we don't read all the messages.) The bug report page is: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/buglist.htm Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: comdotatdotcom@csi.com Subject: RE: (fractint) Parameter Explorer question Date: 26 Sep 1999 23:27 0000 Hi Alice, >Is there a way to investigate more than one window per screen? Yep, if you hit 'S' when a selection box isn't showing, i.e. before hitting pageup, you should save the whole set and be able to reload it later to carry on exploring the parameter space. Hope this helps, Robin. P.S. I'm thinking of adding the capability of storing the evolver details in a par file, could be useful :-) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) v20.0 - potential bug report Date: 26 Sep 1999 18:53:45 -0600 Mark wrote: > Kerry Mitchell's starnear_man formula is misbehaving - > or at least behaving differently - under v20.0 compared > with v19.6. Can anyone confirm this? I have traced this down to an optimization we made to the fast (assembler) parser. We can fix this by backing out the optimization. Meanwhile adding the debug=90 option works around the bug by disabling the fast parser. I also want to do some tests of complex formulas that aren't broken to see if the optimization buys us much speed. Thanks very much to Mark and Kerry. I'd very much like to hear of any other formulas that behave differently between 19.6 and 20.0. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Les St Clair" Subject: Re: (fractint) Parameter Explorer question Date: 27 Sep 1999 01:30:17 +0100 > The bug report page is: > > http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/buglist.htm Thank you Tim. Noted and reported! - Les Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thore Berntsen Subject: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released. Date: 27 Sep 1999 07:55:57 +0200 Fractint Screens Saver is a Windows screen saver that displays images that Fractint creates in the background, You select wich pars Fracint shall play. Today I have released version 2.00. You can get it at http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm This is a almost complete rewrite of the old screen saver. I have tested it under Windows 95,98 and NT, and it seems to run better than earlier. I have added a few new options. The most interesting must be the save images/screens option. If You download it I will be glad to hear from You! Please tell me if You have any problems, suggestions etc. (You can even tell me if You liked it or not...) Thore Berntsen Norway Email thbernt@online.no Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Randall Britten Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released. Date: 27 Sep 1999 10:06:57 +0200 The download link doesn't work. (Not Found 404) http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.zip > -----Original Message----- > From: Thore Berntsen [mailto:berntsen@vbdas.no] > Sent: Monday 27 September 1999 07:56 > To: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released. > > > Fractint Screens Saver is a Windows screen saver that displays images > that Fractint creates in the background, You select wich pars Fracint > shall play. > > Today I have released version 2.00. You can get it at > http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm This is a almost complete rewrite of the old screen saver. I have tested it under Windows 95,98 and NT, and it seems to run better than earlier. I have added a few new options. The most interesting must be the save images/screens option. If You download it I will be glad to hear from You! Please tell me if You have any problems, suggestions etc. (You can even tell me if You liked it or not...) Thore Berntsen Norway Email thbernt@online.no Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL RAY Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released. Date: 27 Sep 1999 04:15:14 -0400 Sorry to tell you but the site does not work for me - I do not speak Norwegian and apparently the site has nothing to do with Fractint anyway. Probably a simple typo. Thore Berntsen wrote: > Fractint Screens Saver is a Windows screen saver that displays images > that Fractint creates in the background, You select wich pars Fracint > shall play. > > Today I have released version 2.00. You can get it at > > http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm > > > This is a almost complete rewrite of the old screen saver. I have tested > it under Windows 95,98 and NT, and it seems to run better than earlier. > > I have added a few new options. The most interesting must be the save > images/screens option. > > If You download it I will be glad to hear from You! Please tell me if > You have any problems, suggestions etc. (You can even tell me if You > liked it or not...) > > Thore Berntsen > Norway > Email thbernt@online.no > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Randall Britten Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released. Date: 27 Sep 1999 10:31:54 +0200 Seems to be fixed now. > -----Original Message----- > From: Thore Berntsen [mailto:berntsen@vbdas.no] > Sent: Monday 27 September 1999 07:56 > To: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released. > > > Fractint Screens Saver is a Windows screen saver that displays images > that Fractint creates in the background, You select wich pars Fracint > shall play. > > Today I have released version 2.00. You can get it at > > http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm > > > This is a almost complete rewrite of the old screen saver. I > have tested > it under Windows 95,98 and NT, and it seems to run better > than earlier. > > I have added a few new options. The most interesting must be the save > images/screens option. > > If You download it I will be glad to hear from You! Please tell me if > You have any problems, suggestions etc. (You can even tell me if You > liked it or not...) > > > Thore Berntsen > Norway > Email thbernt@online.no > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thore Berntsen Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released. Date: 27 Sep 1999 10:27:16 +0200 This should be fixed now. Can You tell me if it still not works. Thore -----Original Message----- From: BILL RAY [SMTP:raymark@tiernan.net] Sent: 27. september 1999 10:15 To: fractint@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released. Sorry to tell you but the site does not work for me - I do not speak Norwegian and apparently the site has nothing to do with Fractint anyway. Probably a simple typo. Thore Berntsen wrote: > Fractint Screens Saver is a Windows screen saver that displays images > that Fractint creates in the background, You select wich pars Fracint > shall play. > > Today I have released version 2.00. You can get it at > > http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm > > > This is a almost complete rewrite of the old screen saver. I have tested > it under Windows 95,98 and NT, and it seems to run better than earlier. > > I have added a few new options. The most interesting must be the save > images/screens option. > > If You download it I will be glad to hear from You! Please tell me if > You have any problems, suggestions etc. (You can even tell me if You > liked it or not...) > > Thore Berntsen > Norway > Email thbernt@online.no > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thore Berntsen Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released. Date: 27 Sep 1999 10:15:25 +0200 Oops, I must have uploaded it too early in the morning. It should work now. Thanks for telling me about this problem! Thore -----Original Message----- From: Randall Britten [SMTP:randall@is.co.za] Sent: 27. september 1999 10:07 To: fractint@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released. The download link doesn't work. (Not Found 404) http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.zip > -----Original Message----- > From: Thore Berntsen [mailto:berntsen@vbdas.no] > Sent: Monday 27 September 1999 07:56 > To: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released. > > > Fractint Screens Saver is a Windows screen saver that displays images > that Fractint creates in the background, You select wich pars Fracint > shall play. > > Today I have released version 2.00. You can get it at > http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm This is a almost complete rewrite of the old screen saver. I have tested it under Windows 95,98 and NT, and it seems to run better than earlier. I have added a few new options. The most interesting must be the save images/screens option. If You download it I will be glad to hear from You! Please tell me if You have any problems, suggestions etc. (You can even tell me if You liked it or not...) Thore Berntsen Norway Email thbernt@online.no -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Coppin" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fw: sound pars Date: 27 Sep 1999 11:05:33 GMT > Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:27:17 -0400 > From: Lynda Sweetman > To: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (fractint) Fw: sound pars > Reply-to: fractint@lists.xmission.com > > > Bill Jemison wrote: > > > > Bresslau, > > > > Have you looked at the fract200.par which is included w/fractint20? It has > > several music pars which should get you started. > > > > Bill > > > Sound pars 4 and 5 are very ambient and nice. How do you export a sound > par file into a MIDI format? I would like to open them in Media Player > or a suitable sequencing program. If any of the FractInt developers are interested, I know what you need to send down a MIDI cable to get notes to play. I don't know how to operate a PC's MIDI hardware/software, and I don't know the MIDI file format, but I know what binary signals are needed. Anyone interested? Nam et ipsa scientia potestus est! (Sir Francis Bacon) Andrew Orphi Coppin DMU MK. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Coppin" Subject: (fractint) Magic Image Date: 27 Sep 1999 12:57:22 GMT I went through one of the many internet fractal galleries, and found this image: http://members.aol.com/gallets2/g9812302.jpg Does anyone know what colouring algorithm was used to create this thing? It looks like an M set, but I don't recognize the colour method... Nam et ipsa scientia potestus est! (Sir Francis Bacon) Andrew Orphi Coppin DMU MK. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ricardo M. Forno" Subject: RE: (fractint) An interesting screen saver Date: 27 Sep 1999 10:32:51 -0300 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01BF08D3.A7699760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tim: I found this free screen saver on an old CD-ROM. I think the type of fractal it uses would be a nice addition to fractint, if someone knows how to program it. 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Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Magic Image Date: 27 Sep 1999 09:20:35 -0500 Andrew, - I went through one of the many internet fractal galleries, and found - this image: - - http://members.aol.com/gallets2/g9812302.jpg - - Does anyone know what colouring algorithm was used to create this - thing? It looks like an M set, but I don't recognize the colour - method... It's based on Kerry Mitchell's Triangle Inequality Method. Kerry posted his formula for doing this to this list a while back; there's a slightly different version in my formula file, available here: http://www.fractalus.com/misc/dmj-pub.zip Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Barnett Subject: RE: (fractint) MakeMap Date: 27 Sep 1999 10:23:13 -0400 Greetings everyone: MakeMap is at my new site (not really new, its over one year old now!). http://www.hiddendimension.com Ron Barnett -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 00:59 Paul N. Lee wrote: >You might also try Ron Barnett's utility program "MakeMap". >There is a useful list of information found at: >http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/iFAQ/Resource.htm I have tried that, but the link to MakeMap (http://members.aol.com/RBarn0001/makemap.zip) leads to an error message. Thanks anyway. Nemonoxian greetings, Nemo Nox http://nemonox.homepage.com/ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) Magic Image Date: 27 Sep 1999 14:50:10 -0400 Hi Andrew, >> I went through one of the many internet fractal galleries, and found = >> this image: >> >> http://members.aol.com/gallets2/g9812302.jpg >> >> Does anyone know what colouring algorithm was used to create this = >> thing? It looks like an M set, but I don't recognize the colour = >> method... This thing was made of twu layers, one of these layers uses Kerry Mitchell's "Triangle Inequality" color algorithm. You can see some Fractint images based on this method (check out gallet_c.zip on my Downloads page). Cheers, - Sylvie My Fractal Site: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Sylvie_Gallet/homepage.htm Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Iain G. Stirling" Subject: (fractint) PARS: inside=fmod Date: 27 Sep 1999 23:57:56 +0100 --Message-Boundary-20105 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Hello all, Perhaps you have (or have not) been wondering what the "inside=fmod" option added to Fractint v20 is capable of. In answer to that question, here is a PAR file containing 9 images using that option... This is my first attempt at the art side of fractals (I usually stick to the mathematics). It has taken me nearly 5 hours to produce EACH of the 9 images in this collection! I'm sure that is awfully long - could any of the regular PAR contributers give me an idea of their average image creation time? Thanks, Iain. --Message-Boundary-20105 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Text from file 'IAINS.PAR' iains01 {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=6:39.64 ; P133 1024 x 768 reset=2000 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=sqr/conj passes=1 corners=0.0395084635/0.109417318/-0.650925903/-0.598494262 params=0/0/9 float=y maxiter=100 bailoutest=or inside=fmod outside=255 periodicity=-256 colors=zzz<247>111111111<3>0000KU } iains02 {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=1:37.82 ; P133 1024 x 768 reset=2000 type=julia passes=1 corners=-1.568/1.567997/-1.175982/1.176002 params=-0.77285766/-0.095993042 maxiter=100 inside=fmod proximity=0.015 outside=0 periodicity=-256 colors=zzz<254>000 } iains03 {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=1:34.85 ; P133 1024 x 768 reset=2000 type=newton passes=1 corners=0.90839761/1.0215496/-0.455563682/-0.370699682 params=6 float=y maxiter=15 inside=fmod proximity=0.5 periodicity=-256 colors=zzz<7>XbmT_lQXj<3>AKcvvv<239>000 } iains04 {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=3:41.18 ; P133 1024 x 768 reset=2000 type=julia passes=1 corners=0.19279681/0.31113281/0.512317611/0.601069611 params=-0.7387588245570118/0.1409069307481326 float=y maxiter=120 inside=fmod proximity=0.2 decomp=2 periodicity=-256 colors=00wWWWmnnz00<229>zx0zx0zx0<3>zz0zzz<2>zzz000<2>000zzz<6>zzz } iains05 {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=6:09.15 ; P133 1024 x 768 reset=2000 type=lambda passes=1 corners=0.76708786109/0.76720752245/0.721526708819/0.721616454842 params=0.947996089931572/0.3430247718383337 float=y bailout=12399 inside=fmod proximity=0.11 periodicity=-256 colors=000<57>uuuvvvwwwxxxyyyzzz<2>yzzyzzxyzwyy<95>2Vd2Vd1Vd<87>000 } iains06 {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=3:43.82 ; P133 1024 x 768 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=Jm_ducks passes=1 center-mag=-1.02556688172043000/+0.71858867014341600/8438.819 params=23/0 float=y maxiter=100 inside=fmod proximity=0.008 decomp=2 colors=000UWWmnnzzz<97>d2Md2Ld1L<95>101101000<53>000 } iains07 {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=1:23.76 ; P133 1024 x 768 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=CGNewton3 passes=1 center-mag=+0.02824245917605415/+0.00269181904510192/492.06 params=1.8/0 float=y maxiter=18 inside=fmod proximity=0.02 decomp=256 colors=ccczz0z00000zzzccczz0z00000mmm000<9>0CP0DR0FU<3>0Kc<9>`hodjphmr<3\ >www<9>NZkJXjFUh<3>0Kc<9>08F07D05A<2>023000012<8>0CP0DR0FU<3>0Kc<9>`hodj\ phmr<3>www<9>NZkJXjFUh<3>0Kc<9>08F07D05A<2>023000012<8>0CP0DR0FU<3>0Kc<9\ >`hodjphmr<3>www<9>NZkJXjFUh<3>0Kc<9>08F07D05A<2>023000012<8>0CP0DR0FU<3\ >0Kc<9>`hodjphmr<3>www<9>kkkjjjhhh<3>ccczz0z00000ccczzz } iains08 {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=2:24.56 ; P133 1024 x 768 reset=2000 type=julia passes=1 center-mag=0.228303/-0.483871/3.875969 params=-0.68466362/0.310020983 float=y maxiter=60 inside=fmod proximity=0.02 decomp=64 colors=zzz<254>000 } iains09 {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=2:41.48 ; P133 1024 x 768 ; Colours based on lkmtch12.map reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_n.frm formulaname=NY002 function=sin/sqr/sinh/cosh passes=1 center-mag=-0.42776939483971880/-0.61914425806451700/135.0989 float=y maxiter=30 inside=fmod proximity=0.05 colors=222EA6ME6MIEUMEQE2aM6aQEiUEeM2qU6yY6yaEmUAqaMyeMyiUmaQeYQeUIYQIaY\ UaaaaeiiiieaYqiaymayqimiezzz<74>4R_3R_2QZ1QZ<138>022012011<2>01100028E24\ 6 } --Message-Boundary-20105-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fernando Henrique Bresslau" Subject: Re: (fractint) PARS: inside=fmod Date: 27 Sep 1999 21:28:29 -0300 Very nice images, Ian. They look like as if they were truecolor, am I right? They didn´t work in Ultrafractal, though. I wanted to play with layers. Does anybody know why? Bresslau. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil McRevis Subject: Re: (fractint) PARS: inside=fmod Date: 27 Sep 1999 18:48:47 -0600 In article , "Iain G. Stirling" writes: > This is my first attempt at the art side of fractals (I usually stick to the > mathematics). It has taken me nearly 5 hours to produce EACH of the 9 > images in this collection! I'm sure that is awfully long - could any of the > regular PAR contributers give me an idea of their average image creation > time? There are a variety of techniques, here are some off the top of my head: --- Browse in a low-resolution video mode until you've selected a palette and coloring options that you like, then shift to a higher resolution video mode for final rendering. --- Use the view window screen ('v' menu) to select a portion of the screen for rendering. This doesn't involve a change in video mode, it uses a subset of the available pixels in your current video mode. --- Use solid guessing or tesseral rendering styles from the 'x' menu even when you know that its inaccurate for the specific fractal type. You'll pick up the lost detail upon final rendering. --- When solid guessing or tesseral rendering is too egregiously erroneous for one's sensibilities, use passes=3. Passes=3 does all the same things passes=1 does, but it gives you three progressively refined scans instead of one fully-defined scan. --- For slow formula types, borrow a technique from computer science called 'strength reduction'. What you do is look over your formula code for repeatedly calculated subexpressions and compute them once, sticking them into a variable which you use where the expressions originally appeared. Exploit trigonometric or geometric identities to simplify expressions, or eliminate them entirely. Fractint does a good job at compiling formulas and optimizing them in a very low- level manner, but it doesn't have a knowledge of geometry or trigonometry to be able to reduce complexity in a user-defined formula. --- Browse at low resolution saving par's along the way and render the pars over night at higher resolution. ;-) -- Legalize Adulthood! ``Ain't it funny that they all fire the pistol, at the wrong end of the race?''--PDBT legalize@xmission.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil McRevis Subject: Re: (fractint) PARS: inside=fmod Date: 27 Sep 1999 18:50:39 -0600 In article <001301bf0948$7e07d100$3a85f6c8@winnetou>, "Fernando Henrique Bresslau" writes: > They didn't work in Ultrafractal, though. Does anybody know why? Cool! That feature I put in to break ultrafractal worked!* ;-) They probably didn't work because ultrafractal isn't compatible with fractint 20.0, its only compatible with some previous version. * -- of course, I'm kidding. -- Legalize Adulthood! ``Ain't it funny that they all fire the pistol, at the wrong end of the race?''--PDBT legalize@xmission.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lee Skinner Subject: (fractint) PARS: inside= Date: 27 Sep 1999 22:51:09 -0400 Hello Iain, >> It has taken me nearly 5 hours to produce EACH of the 9 images in this= collection! I'm sure that is awfully long << >> iains01 {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=3D6:39.64 ; P133 1024 x 768 << The longest running one took only 6 + 2/3 minutes on your system accordin= g to the above calculation time. I generated all 9 in far less than a half-hour. Were you perhaps running under Win95 with the Always Suspend property checked on this task while running other applications? By the way, periodicity=3D-256 makes no sense. (Read your Fractint.doc f= ile about how to use periodicity.) Lee Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: (fractint) PARS: inside=fmod Date: 28 Sep 1999 17:50:13 +1200 At 18:48 27/09/1999 -0600, Phil McRevis wrote: > > >--- Use solid guessing or tesseral rendering styles from the 'x' menu >even when you know that its inaccurate for the specific fractal type. >You'll pick up the lost detail upon final rendering. > >--- When solid guessing or tesseral rendering is too egregiously >erroneous for one's sensibilities, use passes=3. Passes=3 does all >the same things passes=1 does, but it gives you three progressively >refined scans instead of one fully-defined scan. > And of course now there's passes=d which is as accurate as passes=1 but gives you a decent preview much faster than any other pass method. Morgan "Done. No! 50%?" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil McRevis Subject: Re: (fractint) PARS: inside=fmod Date: 28 Sep 1999 10:05:43 -0600 In article <3.0.3.32.19990928175013.00888100@mail.nznet.gen.nz>, "Morgan L. Owens" writes: > And of course now there's passes=d which is as accurate as passes=1 but > gives you a decent preview much faster than any other pass method. Yep, I noticed this as new with fractint 20 so it slipped my mind when I wrote that message ;-). -- Legalize Adulthood! ``Ain't it funny that they all fire the pistol, at the wrong end of the race?''--PDBT legalize@xmission.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Parameter Explorer question Date: 28 Sep 1999 18:12:11 -0400 > Say I have generated a screenful of image windows, and there are two or three that I desperately wish to > see and/or save. As far as I can tell, I only have the option of looking > at and saving one small window, and the others are gone for all time. Is > there a way to investigate more than one window per screen? > >Good news (and bad news)... > >Just save the Evolver screen as you would a normal image. When you restore the >image you can carry on and explore any of the cells you wish. > >The bad news, however, is that sometimes (in my experience) the restored screen >starts mutating all over again and there is no chance of getting back any of the >images! This happens to about one in four of the evolver screens that I save. I >should report this as a bug (Robin are you reading??). > >cheers, Les FWIW, there are a couple of work arounds to the above mentioned bug - in case anyone else has not yet figured it out. 1. When opening the restored screen, have a finger hovering over the zoom box (page up) key. As soon as the image is on screen, hit the zoom box, that will freeze the evolver program, so to speak, and the zoom box may then be moved to where ever you want to go as normal. 2. I do not think the image is completely lost even if evolver is allowed to run "losing" the info which was there. Exiting Fractint, then looking at the saved .gif files shows the image is still there as originally placed, and the original reappears on starting over. If you want the image which evolver wants to replace, go back to option one and practice your fast draw. 3. You can also note the saved image thumbnail screen, exit Fractint, copy the image to another folder, and if you do lose the image for whatever reason, it can be recopied back into Fractint and run as normal. But again, you finger might have to hit the zoom box fast. I have done all three, including completely deleting the evolver thumbnail image from Fractint, exiting, restarting Fractint, pasting the image back in, and it works fine. Again, the above FWIW and until the bug is fixed. davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) PARS: inside=fmod Date: 28 Sep 1999 22:04:50 -0700 Phil McRevis wrote: > > In article , > "Iain G. Stirling" writes: > > > This is my first attempt at the art side of fractals (I usually stick to the > > mathematics). It has taken me nearly 5 hours to produce EACH of the 9 > > images in this collection! I'm sure that is awfully long - could any of the > > regular PAR contributers give me an idea of their average image creation > > time? > Phil... I'm an art type...so I'll take a stab at answering. A fractal I REALLY like usually takes me anywhere from 1-3 hours. The shorter time reflects starting with an existing image...and the latter, starting from a formula and puttering. My collection of Fractint stuff is at http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/fractalintro.htm One of the real keys to Fractint for me is a good color map, and I have some hints at my site in that area that may be of help. Angela aka wizzle Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fliguer, Miguel" Subject: (fractint) First music PARs Date: 29 Sep 1999 14:59:44 -0300 A couple of music PARs for v20 (my first attempt). peart01 is a drum solo ;-), Sounds like Neil Peart of Rush. td01 reminds me of some Tangerine Dream compositions. Let me know if you like it. Miguel Fliguer Buenos Aires, Argentina ---- peart01 { ; Drum solo, Neil Peart's style ; by Miguel Fliguer 1999 ; fliguer@hotmail.com reset=2000 type=popcornjul function=sin/tan/sin/tan passes=1 corners=-3/3/-2.25/2.25 params=1/2/3/2 float=y maxiter=20 bailout=64 inside=3 viewwindows=4.2/0.75/yes/0/0 hertz=100 sound=y/fm/quant polyphony=3 attack=1 decay=6 sustain=7 srelease=14 scalemap=1/2/1/3/1/4/1/5/1/6/1/7 orbitdelay=1100 showorbit=yes colors=00000e0e00eee00e0eeL0eeeLLLLLzLzLLzzzLLzLzzzLzzz000555<3>HHHKKKOO\ O<3>ccchhhmmmssszzz00z<3>z0z<3>z00<3>zz0<3>0z0<3>0zz<2>0GzVVz<3>zVz<3>zV\ V<3>zzV<3>VzV<3>Vzz<2>Vbzhhz<3>zhz<3>zhh<3>zzh<3>hzh<3>hzz<2>hlz00S<3>S0\ S<3>S00<3>SS0<3>0S0<3>0SS<2>07SEES<3>SES<3>SEE<3>SSE<3>ESE<3>ESS<2>EHSKK\ S<2>QKSSKSSKQSKOSKMSKK<2>SQKSSKQSKOSKMSKKSK<2>KSQKSSKQSKOSKMS00G<3>G0G<3\ >G00<3>GG0<3>0G0<3>0GG<2>04G88G<2>E8GG8GG8EG8CG8AG88<2>GE8GG8EG8CG8AG88G\ 8<2>8GE8GG8EG8CG8AGBBG<2>FBGGBGGBFGBDGBCGBB<2>GFBGGBFGBDGBCGBBGB<2>BGFBG\ GBFGBDGBCG000<6>000 } td01 { ; Tangerine Dream, circa 1976 ; by Miguel Fliguer 1999 ; fliguer@hotmail.com reset=2000 type=kamtorus3d passes=1 corners=-5.28169/5.28169/-2.113922/5.808613 params=3/0.5/2/64 float=y maxiter=20 bailout=64 inside=3 rotation=60/30/0 perspective=0 xyshift=0/0 viewwindows=4.2/0.75/yes/0/0 hertz=330 sound=z/fm/quant polyphony=8 wavetype=2 attack=9 decay=9 sustain=11 srelease=11 scalemap=1/2/1/3/1/4/1/5/1/6/1/7 orbitdelay=1200 showorbit=yes colors=00000e0e00eee00e0eeL0eeeLLLLLzLzLLzzzLLzLzzzLzzz000555<3>HHHKKKOO\ O<3>ccchhhmmmssszzz00z<3>z0z<3>z00<3>zz0<3>0z0<3>0zz<2>0GzVVz<3>zVz<3>zV\ V<3>zzV<3>VzV<3>Vzz<2>Vbzhhz<3>zhz<3>zhh<3>zzh<3>hzh<3>hzz<2>hlz00S<3>S0\ S<3>S00<3>SS0<3>0S0<3>0SS<2>07SEES<3>SES<3>SEE<3>SSE<3>ESE<3>ESS<2>EHSKK\ S<2>QKSSKSSKQSKOSKMSKK<2>SQKSSKQSKOSKMSKKSK<2>KSQKSSKQSKOSKMS00G<3>G0G<3\ >G00<3>GG0<3>0G0<3>0GG<2>04G88G<2>E8GG8GG8EG8CG8AG88<2>GE8GG8EG8CG8AG88G\ 8<2>8GE8GG8EG8CG8AGBBG<2>FBGGBGGBFGBDGBCGBB<2>GFBGGBFGBDGBCGBBGB<2>BGFBG\ GBFGBDGBCG000<6>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) First music PARs Date: 29 Sep 1999 15:13:42 -0400 Hi Miguel, >> A couple of music PARs for v20 (my first attempt). Very nice, especially td01! Cheers, - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "laszlo toth" Subject: (fractint) Movie? Date: 29 Sep 1999 21:35:42 PDT Hi everybody, hi fractal-fanatics! Can anybody advise me a simple program with I can make a film to jump into the deepest part of the Mandelbrot? I have fractfly, and anifra, but these (my version) can't work with arbitrary prec. or with the 20.0 Fractint. Is it possible to add a random number parameter to the lsystems witch make from the Koch curve a "seacoast" like curve? Something like plasma but in 1 (and a little) dimension. Thanks: Laszlo ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Randall Britten Subject: RE: (fractint) Movie? Date: 30 Sep 1999 13:42:52 +0200 Fractal filmer (written in Java) worked well for me to do just that, link on the fractint pages. > -----Original Message----- > From: laszlo toth [mailto:tothfract@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday 30 September 1999 06:36 > To: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (fractint) Movie? > > > Hi everybody, hi fractal-fanatics! > Can anybody advise me a simple program with I can make a film > to jump into > the deepest part of the Mandelbrot? I have fractfly, and > anifra, but these > (my version) can't work with arbitrary prec. or with the 20.0 > Fractint. Is > it possible to add a random number parameter to the lsystems > witch make from > the Koch curve a "seacoast" like curve? Something like plasma > but in 1 (and > a little) dimension. Thanks: Laszlo > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lionel Poeffel Subject: (fractint) Test, Test Date: 30 Sep 1999 17:53:41 +0200 (MET DST) Sorry, this is just a test, because I have problems with my account. Don't be angry. thanks, Lionel. | | | ___ | | \ "Talente finden Loesungen - Genies entdecken Probleme." | | | (Krailshaimer) |___|___/ | | Mail me at nonexist@cs.tu-berlin.de. | Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint"