From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 02-03-01 (Tiny Fractal Town [7]) Date: 01 Mar 2001 23:04:11 EST Classic FOTD -- March 02, 2001 (Rating 7) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Having been busy all day today, I found almost no time for fractal fun. But thanks to the MandelbrotMix4 formula, the tiny bit of time I did find was enough to create today's fractal. The name "Tiny Fractal Town", which I gave to today's image, has nothing at all to do with the appearance of the picture. I thought of the phrase while repairing a crack in the wall of the soon-to-be all-new Fractal Central. The rating of 7 is an honest statement of my opinion of the image. The formula that drew the image mixes portions of Z^(-0.75) and Z^(1.25) before adding 1/C. The image takes 8-1/2 minutes to render from the parameter file, a long enough time to make a trip to: or to: well worth the effort. The fractal weather today was mostly sunny and seasonal, with a temperature of 45F (7C), which lured the fractal cats onto the porch. Thomas ventured into the yard long enough to eat his fill of grass, which he barely managed to keep down until he came back indoors. I forgave him for the little mess he made on the kitchen floor. That's it for today. I'm totally fatigued once again, and ready to doze off trying to watch some junky movie. I'll return in 24 hours, hopefully refreshed, and with a new fractal. Until then, take care, and when is the last time you saw a fractal going through a red light? Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Tiny_Fractal_Town {;time=0:08:38.11 -- SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+0.34217061781688710/-0.272164222882134\ 30/1.549436e+008/1/-157.499 params=-2/-0.75/1/1.25/-1.65/0 float=y maxiter=1600 inside=0 logmap=158 periodicity=0 colors=000I6hI6hI6gI6fI6eI6cI6`I6ZI6VI6RI6OI6KI6HH\ 6DG78G68E5GD5NC5TA5_93f83l73s73yCAxHHxLNwQTwVZw_ev\ dkvhqumwuqzuuyshvrjsqdppZmoUhmQflNckJ`jGYhCVgAah9f\ j9mk8sl8xmJ2HTGPaTYjeesrmyyyyzjxw`vsRupIrl8qh0re6r\ cDr`KrZRrVZrTerQlrOsfKvVHwKDxL8zL3zL0zN6yOAvPHrQLo\ RQkTWgU`dVf`WkYYpU_mValVckVehVfgWhfWjdWlcWmaWHsPHU\ gJVcLW_OWVQYRRYNUZJW_EZ_A``6a`2ef7hlAlrEowIqsNrqQs\ oUukZvhawfexcjy`mzZqsammdjgffahcWk_PoWJqTDsP7vL1xI\ 0zGVq3Zl6`g7dc8f_9l`8qa7wc6zd5ze5z`3zY2zT1xP0zU0zU\ 0zU8yWHzcPs_OmWNfUN`QLUNLOKKHHKADJ5AJ9CHDDEHECKG9P\ H7TI5WJ2_K0jhTuzuqzomzjkzdgz_ezVfuZgp`gkdhffjajjYl\ kRpkNrlIvmDxm8zo3zo0zm3zl7ykAvkGsjJphNlhRjgVffZcfc\ `efYdjUdoRcrOavKayIWx0QwCKvTNqRPlRRmRUoRWpRZqR`rRc\ sReuRfvRhwTkxTmyTozUqzUszUvzVwzVyzVzzWzzWlzfjzdfz`\ dzZ`zWYzTVzQRzOPzKLzIJzGQzNYzUdz`kzgrzmlzjgzgazeYz\ cTz`NzYIzVCzT7zQ2zOEzQPzT } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Traynor Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 02-03-01 (Tiny Fractal Town [7]) Date: 02 Mar 2001 08:10:50 -0500 Jim, Very nice image. Looks even better with one of the maps I have for Paul Carlson type images. I find I particularly the diffusion drawing method for the FOTDs. it is neat seeing the image emerge, heightens surprise. Mike FractownPC { ; t= 0:08:22.35 ; time on PIII-600 1024x768 ; Version 2001 Patchlevel 6 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=mandelbrotmix4 function=recip passes=d center-mag=+0.34217061781688710/-0.27216422288213430/1.549436e+008/1/-15\ 7.498 params=-2/-0.75/1/1.25/-1.65/0 float=y maxiter=1600 fillcolor=0 inside=0 logmap=158 periodicity=0 colors=000zW0<8>mG0kE0jC0<3>c40<7>pK0qM0sO0<3>zW0fOz<7>TBbR9_Q7X<3>I0K<8\ >XEhYGk_Hn<3>fOz0zR<7>0YE0VD0RB<3>0C4<8>0eH0hJ0lK<3>0zRz88<7>d44a33_33<3\ >O00<8>j44m55o55<3>z88GGz<7>77d66a55_<2>22R00O11Q<7>99jAAmBBo<3>GGzzz0<7\ >l`0jX0iU0<3>aG0<8>pg0qj0sm0<2>xv0zz0z0f<7>d0Na0L_0I<3>O08<8>j0Tm0Vo0X<3\ >z0f0zz<7>0YY0VV0RR<3>0CC<8>0ee0hh0ll<3>0zz000<5>000<4>000NSN000000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: Re: (fractint) New galleries Date: 02 Mar 2001 14:24:55 -0500 Hi Andrew, Sorry for replying so late! >> "Enjoy" isn't even the word; as usual, your work is stunning! I >> especially like gallery #34, but ALL are very fine. Thank you so muck! >> BTW, did I ever mention that I currently have my bedroom adorned with >> half of your website? I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be doing that >> (and I really DON'T want to respawn that yawn-inducing copywright >> thread), but only I inhabit that room, so I didn't think anyone would= >> mind too much... ONLY half of my web site? ;-) Cheers, - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 02-03-01 (Tiny Fractal Town [7]) Date: 02 Mar 2001 19:27:31 -0500 (EST) At 08:10 AM 3/2/01 -0500, Mike Traynor wrote: >Jim, > >Very nice image. Looks even better with one of the maps I have for >Paul Carlson type images. I find I particularly the diffusion >drawing method for the FOTDs. it is neat seeing the image emerge, >heightens surprise. Mike: The diffusion, along with the boundary tracing methods are also my favorites. The drawback is that they are often the slowest methods. Next FOTD in 4-1/2 hours. Jim M. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) Re: Re: C-FOTD 02-03-01 (Tiny Fractal Town [7]) Date: 02 Mar 2001 22:10:28 EST At 08:10 AM 3/2/01 -0500, Mike Traynor wrote: >>Jim, >> >>Very nice image. Looks even better with one of the maps I have for >>Paul Carlson type images. I find I particularly the diffusion >>drawing method for the FOTDs. it is neat seeing the image emerge, >>heightens surprise. I replied: >Mike: > >The diffusion, along with the boundary tracing methods are also my >favorites. The drawback is that they are often the slowest methods. Since writing the above comment, I have run the parameter file that Mike attached to his original letter. The diffusion method actually took only 2 seconds longer to draw the image than the passes=1 method. And I must rate Mike's color palette an 8, as compared to my original hasty palette, which I rated a 7. The boundary tracing method does not work on the "Tinytown" image. It misses too many disconnected features. FOTD in 2 hours. Jim M. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 03-03-01 (Mandeloid Shellout [5]) Date: 02 Mar 2001 23:15:46 EST Classic FOTD -- March 03, 2001 (Rating 5) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Today was once again hectic, as every day will be here at Fractal Central for several more weeks. But despite the rush, I still found time to create a fractal worth a rating of 5. I named the image "Mandeloid Shellout" when I was reminded of a group of conch shells lying on some forgotten beach. The formula Z^(0.01)+10Z^2+(1/C) created the parent fractal of today's scene. The picture actually should not be referred to as a 'classic' FOTD, since the outside colors were created by the 'tdis' coloring method instead of the normal flat equal-iteration bands. The attached parameter file renders in 12-1/2 minutes on a Pentium 200mhz. This is slow enough to make a trip to one of the following web sites worth the effort. Those web sites are Paul's at: and Scott's at: The fractal weather today was partly cloudy, with an ideal temperature of 54F (12C). The temperature was ideal, but unfortunately, I spent almost the entire afternoon at the hardware superstore purchasing supplies for the new Fractal Central. As a result, the cats did not get to go out, and I was met by a pair of sulky cats when I returned around nightfall. And now, the day is at an end; the fractal shoppe is ready to be shut down; the cats have been well fed, and I'm finished for the day. There's nothing left to do but put on a junky old sci-fi or horror movie, and doze off while trying to watch it. Until next time, take care, and life is better with fractals. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Mandeloid_Shellout { ;time=0:12:36.00 - SF5 on a p200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=-0.93459047712068090/-0.053378617196449\ 60/2.827449e+007/1/129.999 params=1/0.01/10/2/0/0 float=y maxiter=1500 inside=0 outside=tdis periodicity=0 colors=000zXfz_ZzcQxdIthAri3ffFVcQKaa9Zm0Vx0Tz0Sr0\ Qa0OL0O6zcztNzX6i90T90O90K90F90C9069229202DF0NT0Zh\ 0hv3pzKvz_zznzzizzdzz_tzVpzQkzLfzSczXaxaZmfXakTQpS\ GaQAOO5CN00L00L0IhXnzzppzrdzsTztGzv5zv0xnT0rkItzav\ zsxL__OcCSf0Ti0_c3dZCkTKpOStK_zFhzAnz5iz3dz2_z0Vx0\ Qt0Lr00zQ0vV2i_3Xd5Ki66n90s90vG0nO2hXC_dKTmTLtcFzk\ 9Nc00X00i3DvOTzihzz_zzSzzKzzDzz5zz0zz0zz0tz9XmI6_Q\ 0NL0VI0aF5hCDn6Lt3Sz0_z0fzAVzNKz_9vk0rFFf0VV0_h0dt\ 0iz0nz0sz9vzGzzOzzXzzdzzmzzszxQhT090zpzzzxzzazzXzt\ TtiQrZNnNIiCFf0Cc090zz3zzFtzSixcZvnNtcSkSVaG_S5dI0\ h9ztKzzcvztszzdxzSdzFLz22z69zCFzGLzLSsQZkVdd_iZzz2\ vzApzIizQazZVzfOznIzv2006I9AfIDzSz00Id3LNzVFzd5zm0\ zDz5Iz6Nn6Qa6VN6ZA6dGDiLInQOsVTx_ZDv03v0Dz0Nz0Xz2f\ z3pz5zz6zz9zzAzzIidQTIZD0fK9_QKTXVNcfIirCpz5vz0dz0\ Oz06z00x0azs_trZmrXdrXXpVOpTGpTApLDnDFn6Gn0Km0Lm0N\ m0FaA6QN0F_03k00if2scFz_T } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Multiple Bogeys" Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 03-03-01 (Mandeloid Shellout [5]) Date: 03 Mar 2001 01:56:49 -0500 >Today was once again hectic, as every day will be here at >Fractal Central for several more weeks. But despite the rush, I >still found time to create a fractal worth a rating of 5. Methinks you underestimated it. Try '7'. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 04-03-01 (A Fungus Amungus [7]) Date: 04 Mar 2001 08:44:18 EST Classic FOTD -- March 04, 2001 (Rating 7) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Today's subtly tinted and late image speaks for itself, which is good, because I have no time to speak for it. I could have named it many things, but the name I decided on is "A Fungus Amungus", which is a phrase I heard in my high-school days, which were all too many years ago. The math expression -Z^(-12.5)-12Z^(-1.25)+(1/C) produced the image, the formula MandelbrotMix4 calculated the 6,000 iterations, and the 'fmod' outside option with a proximity value of 1, supplied the egg-like bubbles. I rated the image a 7 because of the unusually pronounced three- dimensional effect. The image takes 45 minutes to render on a 200mhz Pentium. For relief, the GIF file of the image will be posted as soon as possible to the following web sites: and The fractal weather was partly cloudy and a pleasant 55F (13C). But I was too busy to look after the fractal cats, who scolded me thoroughly when I returned. The media is covering a monster snowstorm, which is due to arrive tomorrow night. Knowing from experience how these things go, I can confidently predict that any snow will be insignificant. It's now time to shut down here and begin a day of hectic activity at the new Fractal Central. Until 16 hours from now, take care, and see you later. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ A_Fungus_Amungus { ;time=0:45:03.76 - SF5 on a p200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+2.12131979472154500/-0.107358650807298\ 10/5.590748e+010/1/127.499 params=1/-12.5/12/-1.25/-2/525 float=y maxiter=6000 bailout=25 inside=0 proximity=1 outside=fmod logmap=yes periodicity=10 colors=000zzzzxzzwyyvyyvxyuxyuwxtwxtwxsvxrvwqvwpuw\ ouwnuwnuvmtumtumttlttltslsslsrksqksqkspjrpjrojrojr\ nirmiqmiqlhqlhqkhqkhpjgpjgpigphfphfogfogfofeofeoee\ nddnddncdncdnbcmbcmacmacm`bm_bl_blZalZalYalYakX`kW\ `kW`kV_kV_jU_jU_jTZjTZjSZiRYiRYiQYiQYiPXhPXhOXhNWh\ NWhMWgMWgLVgLVgKUgLUjKSgJQeIPbHN`GMYFKWEJTDHRCHOBG\ MAGJ9FH8FE7EC6E95D73E34D45D56D56D67D68C78C79C8AC9B\ C9BCACBADBBDBBEBCFBCFADGAEHAEIAFIAFJAGK9GKAHKBHKCI\ KDJKDJKDKKDKKDLKDLKDMKCMKCNKCOKCOKCPKBPKCQKCQKDRKD\ SKESKDTKETKEU`FUaFVbEVbEWcEXdEXdEYeEYfDZfDZgD_hD_i\ D`iCajCakCbkCblCcmCcmBdnBdoBepBfpBfqAgrAgrAhsAhtAi\ tAisBhsBhrBhrCgqCgqCgpCgpDfpDfoDfoDenEenEemEemEdlF\ dlFdlFckFckGcjGcjGbiGbiHbiHbhHahHagIagI`fI`fI`eJ`e\ J_eJ_dJ_dKZcKZcKZbKZbLYaLYaLYaLX`MX`MX_MX_MWZNWZNW\ ZNWYNVYOVXOVXOUWOUWPUVPUVPTVPTUQTUQSTQSlsrlsrlrsmr\ smrsnrsnrsoqsoqspqspqtpqt } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) FOTD 05-03-01 (On the Diagonal [4]) Date: 05 Mar 2001 00:55:16 EST FOTD -- March 05, 2001 (Rating 4) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: The day was another very busy one here at Fractal Central, as all days will be until I get settled into the new Fractal Central around the end of this month. But it was not too busy for me to find a fractal. To produce the parent fractal of today's image, I subtracted some Z^(-2.5) from some Z^(-2), added 1/C, and iterated 600 times. The outside was colored by the tdis method, which I find myself using more and more often when the classic method comes up blank. I named the picture "On the Diagonal" because that is where the midget is located. Considering the lack of effort I put into the picture, I could rate it only a 4, which is a bit below average. The parameter file renders in one very fast minute. And as always, the GIF file of the image is available on the Web at: and at: The fractal weather today was cloudy, cold and rainy, with a temperature of 36F (2C) that confined the fractal cats to their window shelf. As I suspected yesterday, the forecasted monster snowstorm did not happen today, and the TV weather experts are once again doing damage control. That's it for today. But be patient, the rush will eventually end, and the FOTD discussion will return to its former glory. Until next time, take care, and be a happy fractalist. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ On_the_Diagonal { ; time=0:00:59.04 -- SF5 on P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=b center-mag=+0.25627508097681630/+0.057075232315386\ 08/6988.571/1/169.999 params=0.75/-2/-1/-2.5/-75/300 float=y maxiter=600 inside=255 outside=tdis periodicity=10 colors=000_ka`i_ahZbfYceXddVebUfaTg`Sf_TeZTdYTdXTc\ WTbVTaUTaTT`SU_RU_QUZPUazzazzXMUWLUVKVVJVUIVTHVSGV\ SFVREVQDVOCSQDVREXTF_UFaWGcXHfZHhcMqcMqdMrdOqePthO\ vjMyhPxfRxdTxbVx`XwZZwY`wWbwUdvSfvQhvOjvNlvPnwQpwS\ rwTtxUvxWxxXyyZzy_zy`zx_zwZzvYztXysXwqWvpVtnUsmTql\ TojSniRlgQjfQidPgcOfbNd`Mb_MaYL_XKYVJXUJVSIURHSQGQ\ OFONFLLEIKDGICDHCDGGFIKGJNHLRIMUJOYJPaJRdJShKUkKVo\ KXrKY`RdKYj1cr3dp4dn5el6ej7eh8ffAfdBfbCg`DgZEhXFhV\ HhTIiRJiPKiNLjLMjJOkHPkFQkDRlBSl9Sm9Tl8Uk8Vk8Wj8Wi\ 8Xi8Yh8Zg8_g8_f8`e8ae7bd7bc7cc7db7ea7fa7f`7g_7h_7i\ Z7iZ7h_Ag_Df_Ge_Jd`Mc`Pb`Sa`V`aY_a`ZacYafXbiWblVbo\ UbrSavTbuTctTctTdsTerTerUfqUgpUgpUhoUhoUinVjmVjmVk\ lVlkVlkVmjWniWniWohWohWpgWqfXqfXreXsdXsdXtcYwfXtcX\ r`WpZWnWVkUViRUgPUeMUcKWbJYbI_aHaaGc`Fe`Fg_Ei_DkZC\ mZBnYAoZBoZCo_Do_Eo_Fo`Go`GoaHoaIoaJobKobLocLocMoc\ NpdOpdPpdQpeQpeRpfSpfT000 } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Coppin" Subject: Re: (fractint) New galleries Date: 05 Mar 2001 15:30:17 -0000 >From: Sylvie Gallet >Reply-To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com >Subject: Re: (fractint) New galleries >Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:24:55 -0500 > >Hi Andrew, > > Sorry for replying so late! > > >> "Enjoy" isn't even the word; as usual, your work is stunning! I > >> especially like gallery #34, but ALL are very fine. > > Thank you so muck! I presume that's "much"! > >> BTW, did I ever mention that I currently have my bedroom adorned with > >> half of your website? I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be doing that > >> (and I really DON'T want to respawn that yawn-inducing copywright > >> thread), but only I inhabit that room, so I didn't think anyone would > >> mind too much... > > ONLY half of my web site? ;-) Hey! Printing costs MONEY you know! 8^)) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: Re: (fractint) New galleries Date: 05 Mar 2001 16:43:33 -0500 Hi Andrew, >> I presume that's "much"! OOOOOps! Yes, of course! >> Hey! Printing costs MONEY you know! 8^)) ;-) Best regards, - Sylvie E-mail: Sylvie_Gallet@CompuServe.com Web site: http://www.fractalus.com/sylvie/homepage.htm Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 06-03-01 (Ring of Acorns [6]) Date: 05 Mar 2001 22:57:25 EST Classic FOTD -- March 06, 2001 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Due to too much work, it's another short discussion. The fractal formula: 0.99(1/Z)-0.99Z+(1/C), when calculated with a bailout radius of 110, draws a Mandeloid distorted almost to the point of being unrecognizable. But hidden in this figure lie many pleasing scenes. Today's image is but one of these scenes. I named the picture "Ring of Acorns" when I saw in the tree outside the window, a squirrel with his nut. I rated the picture a somewhat conservative 6. The parameter file takes over 9 minutes to render on a Pentium 200mhz. The best way to tell if the wait is worth the result is to download the file of the GIF image from: or from: giving Paul and Scott a chance to post the image. The fractal weather today was cloudy and cold, with 1 cm of snow in the morning, accompanied by media weather people being made fun of as they tried to explain why we did not get the 75cm that some had foolishly predicted. This little bit of snow, and the temperature of 35F (1.5C), kept the cats indoors. The work on the new Fractal Central continues unabated. Late this week we'll begin moving in our equipment. But for now it's time to call it a day. Until tomorrow, take care, and does the world of fractals have a god who can change the rules? Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Ring_of_Acorns { ; time=0:09:25.34 -- SF5 on P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=-0.17836323637819480/+0.266988784076264\ 00/1.262678e+007/1/-10 params=1/-1/-1/1/-0.01/10 float=y maxiter=1200 inside=0 logmap=135 periodicity=10 colors=0001DA3ID3KF2LF1MG1OH0PHQj8Ph8Mf8Lc8Ia8H_8F\ Y8cW8UK8AS87P85O83L82K8OW0QY0SY0UZ1VZ4W_8Z_D_aHaaL\ bbPcbUecYhcbiefjejlfomfsofwrbus_ruWovUlwPiyMfzKewM\ cvPbuSarV_pYZo_YlbWjeVifVhhYfhZehacibbieaif_jiZjjY\ jlWloVlpUlsSmuQmwPmyOmzKhyHbyDYwBSw7Mw4Hv1Cv07v2Bw\ 4Fw7HyALyCPzFSzHWzK_zMbzPfzSjzVmzYrz_vzbyzezzhzzkz\ zfzzczz_zzYyzVvyQswOpuKmsHlrFioBfm8cl4ai2Zh0Wf0Uc0\ Qb0Pa0Sc0Uf0Vh0Wj0Zl0_o0ap0bs0cv0fw0hz0iz0jz0lz0jz\ 0jz0jz0jz0jz0jz0jz0jz0jz0jz1jz1jzzzz0iz0ip0if0hZ0h\ P0hG0h80cA1aA3ZA5WA8UABQADOBGLFIIKLGPODUQBZNDcKFhI\ HmGJrELwANyAOyBMwBLwBKwCIvCHvCGvDFuUDucCumCumGZrDY\ wCYzBYz8Wz7Wb5W_4WY2VV1VS0VP0UM0UK0UH0UK0VL0VM0WO0\ WP0YQ0YS0ZV1ZW2_Y3_Z3a_4aa5bb5bc7cf8chAeiAejBflCfm\ ChoDhpFisGiuGjvHjwIlyIlzKmzLmzLmzLnzMozMpzNqzNrzOs\ zOtzPuzPvzQwzQxzRyzRzzSzzSzzTzzTzzUzzUzzVzzVzzWzzW\ zzXzzXzzYzzYzzZzzZzz_zz_z } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 07-03-01 (All Wrung Out [5]) Date: 06 Mar 2001 22:52:03 -0500 (EST) Classic FOTD -- March 07, 2001 (Rating 5) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: It's been another very busy day here at the old Fractal Central. With so much stuff to be packed, it's a wonder that I found the time to wander through the world of fractals. But find the time I did, and today's image is where I stopped. The fractal formula: 1.3Z^(-1.5)-0.65Z^(1.5)+(1/C) drew the image. I named the picture "All Wrung Out" when I noticed that the twisted elements resemble a large sheet being wrung dry. When all was finisher, I studied everything and rated the image a 5. The parameter file renders in a speedy 1-1/2 minutes. Once the GIF image has been posted, the download will be equally as fast. The image will be available shortly on the Web at: and at: The fractal weather today here at Fractal Central was very cold, very cloudy, very windy, with a few flurries of snow thrown in to keep things interesting. The cats naturally stayed inside all day. That's it for today, fractal fans. But I'll return tomorrow with another fractal and an abbreviated discussion. Until then, take care, and when one calculates a fractal, the future can be known. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ All_Wrung_Out { ; time=0:01:30.52 -- SF5 on P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=mandelbrotmix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=-0.52146504333020520/+0.338856854379959\ 20/282.3461/1/27.499 params=1/-1.5/-0.5/1.5/0.3/0 float=y maxiter=268 inside=0 outside=tdis periodicity=10 colors=222tZBtaCseDqhFplGnnInsJmuKlxMjxNjxNiiahOne\ NjdMhbKdaJa`JZZIVXGSVFOUFMSDJRCFQBCN98M95K82J62I52\ G52KB2OF2RJ2VN2YR2aV4d`5hd6jh9nlBqpCutDxxFxwGxuIxt\ IxsJxqJxpKxpMxnMxmNxlNxjOxiQxhQxhRxfRxeSxdUxbUxaVx\ aVpQRhDO`2MU2JS2KS2KR2KR2KR2MQ2MQ2MQ2MO2KN4JN5JM8I\ MBGKCGKFFJIFJJDIMCIOCGQBGSBFV9FX8DZ8Da6Cb6Ce5Bh4Bi\ 49l29m26lB5jI4jQ2iX2hb2hj2fq2fx2hu4it8jqBlpFlnJmlM\ njQpiUpfYqe`sddtaht`juZnwXsxVuxUfjFeiGdiGdiIbiIbiJ\ aiJ`hJ`hKZhKZhMYhMYhMXfNVfNVfOUfOUfQSfQReQReRQeRQe\ SOeSOeSaSSnFSlKVjQYiU`hZbededhhbmjaqlKYY4FJ6JI9MIC\ OGFRGIUGKXFMZFOaFRdDUfDXjDZmCapCbsCeuBhxBjxBmx9px9\ qx9lxChsFbjIZbKUXNQOQKGSG8VC2YI2NM2CQ42U42S62R92QB\ 2OD2NF2MI4KJ5JM6JN9IQBGRCFUFDVGCYIBZK9aM9bN8aM8aK8\ aJ8aI6aI6aG6aF6aD6aD5`C5`B5`95`84`84`64`54`44`4YjQ\ xujxwiwwhuwftwfswepxdnxbmxblxajx`hxZfxZexYdxXbxV`x\ VZxUYxSXxRVxRB9xCBxCBxDCx } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Coppin" Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 07-03-01 (All Wrung Out [5]) Date: 07 Mar 2001 12:28:25 -0000 >From: Jim Muth >Reply-To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >CC: philofractal@lists.fractalus.com >Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 07-03-01 (All Wrung Out [5]) >Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:52:03 -0500 (EST) > > >Classic FOTD -- March 07, 2001 (Rating 5) > >Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: >I named the picture "All Wrung Out" when I noticed that >the twisted elements resemble a large sheet being wrung dry. Few! For a moment there, I thought it might be that *you* where feeling "All wrung out" ;-)) Andrew. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 07-03-01 (All Wrung Out [5]) Date: 07 Mar 2001 08:31:18 EST At 12:28 PM 3/7/01 -0000, Andrew Coppin wrote: Jim wrote: >>I named the picture "All Wrung Out" when I noticed that >>the twisted elements resemble a large sheet being wrung dry. >Few! For a moment there, I thought it might be that *you* >were feeling "All wrung out" ;-)) Actually, your instincts were right. The hectic activity is partly responsible for the name, which I intended to have a double meaning. I'm pretty much physically worn out, due to the work involved in moving. My compulsion to search for fractals however continues unabated, as it has for over 13 years. My frustration is that I have so little time to write the FOTD, but that will end early next month when I get settled into the new Fractal Central. FOTD in 16 hours. Jim M. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 08-03-01 (Fractal Orchids [6]) Date: 08 Mar 2001 00:36:18 EST Classic FOTD -- March 08, 2001 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: It was another busy day at the new Fractal Central. I spent most of the day hanging shades, a job that is sure to bring out the worst in one. But after many choice words, the job was accomplished, and my attention turned to the world of fractals. Today's image reminds me of a group of orchids growing in some forgotten tropical rain forest. I named it "Fractal Orchids" and rated it a 6. Today's fractal is the latest in my series of 'evaporated' midgets, which I create by taking a fractal whose formula contains a negative power of Z and raising the bailout to a ridiculous value. The extreme bailout causes the outside parts of the image to disappear, leaving a blank screen totally composed of 'inside' stuff. But the ghost of the original image still exists in the blank scene, and can be revealed with various non-flat inside fills. Today's image for example uses a fill of bof61. The formula behind today's image takes a tiny bit of Z^(-13) and adds 20 times as much Z^(-0.8) before adding 1/C. The resulting fractal was enhanced in a separate graphic program, but the enhancement is accurately recorded in the parameter file. The image takes a bit over 4 minutes to render on a tired Pentium 200mhz machine. It takes about the same time to log onto the internet and download the GIF file of the image from: or from: The fractal weather today was much improved, as bright sun and mild breezes combined to produce a temperature of 48F (9C). The fractal cats spent a half hour outdoors enjoying the pleasant conditions, but would have preferred a far longer stay in the sun. Until tomorrow, take care of your fractals. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Fractal_Orchids { ; time=0:04:17.92 -- SF5 on P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip center-mag=+4.10286840502174100/-0.036942999645177\ 60/11526.9/1/-95 params=1/-13/20/-0.8/-0.965/1e+050 float=y maxiter=900 inside=bof61 periodicity=10 colors=000k0Ld0GZ0BS04N10G30B409808C07G05K04O33S51\ X90`C0dF0hH0lK0pN0sP1mL8hJDbGKYDP1LXN7bH4hC1o70u10\ z00z00z00z00z00z00z03z05z07e13F80HF4KL9NSDPZJSeNVl\ SYsX`zabzeF1F`wZZsVYoSXkOVfLTbHTZFSVBRR8PN4OJ1NF0L\ B0L70H90FC0BF08H04J01L00O00R00S00P01O1708BLDGKKKJP\ OGXTFaYDhbCmfBuk9zoJvsRswZpzhmzpkzyhzzezzfzzfzvfzs\ fzpfzlfzifzefybfzpFvXfuTfsRfmVkhZobbrZfvTkyOozKrz0\ VL7aNFfNOlNXrNdwNepNfkNheNiZNkTNlONmHNoCNp7Nr0NdRk\ dKieChe5hhRdkl`mkXokSpiPsiLuhJvhFyhBzf8zf4ze1ze0ze\ 0f8hb9fZBfVCeSDeOFdKGdGHdDJb9Kb5La1Na0OaBNZLLYXLXf\ KTrJSzJRvPYXi0ae8faJlYTbhk`hiXhhThfPheNhbJhaGh`DhZ\ 9hY7hV3hT0hS0hR0hP0hO0dL0aK4ZJ9XHDTGHPDLNCRKBVH9ZF\ 8bB5h84l53p31u00k5GaBXSGlJLzNOwPRsSToVXkYYf``bbbZe\ eVhfRkiNmlJpoFsrBvs7yv3zy0zz0zz0zr0zf0zX5zL9zBDzGC\ zKBzO9yS8yY7ya5we4wi3wm3Of50a83`5G`3T`0f`0u`0z`0zZ\ 0wY0rY1mX4hV7dV8z0bw0Yp0S } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Traynor Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 04-03-01 (A Fungus Amungus [7]) Date: 08 Mar 2001 06:57:46 -0500 Jim, > > Classic FOTD -- March 04, 2001 (Rating 7) > > I rated the image a 7 because of the unusually pronounced three- > dimensional effect. When I saw the 640x480 image I thought you were kidding about the 7. However when I generated it at 1600x1200 I thought you were being stingy. For some images, size does matter and this is one. Even though, seen as 3D, the 'lighting' is coming from all around, not from a single source (and without multiple shadows) the relief effect isn't diminished, but made weirder - like the thing is some alien Stonehenge. BTW, I still don't think that you should make the concession of calling it the "Classic" FOTD. Mike Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Coppin" Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 08-03-01 (Fractal Orchids [6]) Date: 08 Mar 2001 16:47:21 -0000 >From: JimMuth@aol.com >Reply-To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >CC: philofractal@lists.fractalus.com >Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 08-03-01 (Fractal Orchids [6]) >Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:36:18 EST > > >Classic FOTD -- March 08, 2001 (Rating 6) > >Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: > >Today's image reminds me of a group of orchids growing in some >forgotten tropical rain forest. I named it "Fractal Orchids" >and rated it a 6. For once, I can see the resemblance. A very pleasing and unusual image. Keep it up, Jim! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 06-03-01 (Ring of Acorns [6]) Date: 05 Mar 2001 22:57:25 EST Classic FOTD -- March 06, 2001 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Due to too much work, it's another short discussion. The fractal formula: 0.99(1/Z)-0.99Z+(1/C), when calculated with a bailout radius of 110, draws a Mandeloid distorted almost to the point of being unrecognizable. But hidden in this figure lie many pleasing scenes. Today's image is but one of these scenes. I named the picture "Ring of Acorns" when I saw in the tree outside the window, a squirrel with his nut. I rated the picture a somewhat conservative 6. The parameter file takes over 9 minutes to render on a Pentium 200mhz. The best way to tell if the wait is worth the result is to download the file of the GIF image from: or from: giving Paul and Scott a chance to post the image. The fractal weather today was cloudy and cold, with 1 cm of snow in the morning, accompanied by media weather people being made fun of as they tried to explain why we did not get the 75cm that some had foolishly predicted. This little bit of snow, and the temperature of 35F (1.5C), kept the cats indoors. The work on the new Fractal Central continues unabated. Late this week we'll begin moving in our equipment. But for now it's time to call it a day. Until tomorrow, take care, and does the world of fractals have a god who can change the rules? Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Ring_of_Acorns { ; time=0:09:25.34 -- SF5 on P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=-0.17836323637819480/+0.266988784076264\ 00/1.262678e+007/1/-10 params=1/-1/-1/1/-0.01/10 float=y maxiter=1200 inside=0 logmap=135 periodicity=10 colors=0001DA3ID3KF2LF1MG1OH0PHQj8Ph8Mf8Lc8Ia8H_8F\ Y8cW8UK8AS87P85O83L82K8OW0QY0SY0UZ1VZ4W_8Z_D_aHaaL\ bbPcbUecYhcbiefjejlfomfsofwrbus_ruWovUlwPiyMfzKewM\ cvPbuSarV_pYZo_YlbWjeVifVhhYfhZehacibbieaif_jiZjjY\ jlWloVlpUlsSmuQmwPmyOmzKhyHbyDYwBSw7Mw4Hv1Cv07v2Bw\ 4Fw7HyALyCPzFSzHWzK_zMbzPfzSjzVmzYrz_vzbyzezzhzzkz\ zfzzczz_zzYyzVvyQswOpuKmsHlrFioBfm8cl4ai2Zh0Wf0Uc0\ Qb0Pa0Sc0Uf0Vh0Wj0Zl0_o0ap0bs0cv0fw0hz0iz0jz0lz0jz\ 0jz0jz0jz0jz0jz0jz0jz0jz0jz1jz1jzzzz0iz0ip0if0hZ0h\ P0hG0h80cA1aA3ZA5WA8UABQADOBGLFIIKLGPODUQBZNDcKFhI\ HmGJrELwANyAOyBMwBLwBKwCIvCHvCGvDFuUDucCumCumGZrDY\ wCYzBYz8Wz7Wb5W_4WY2VV1VS0VP0UM0UK0UH0UK0VL0VM0WO0\ WP0YQ0YS0ZV1ZW2_Y3_Z3a_4aa5bb5bc7cf8chAeiAejBflCfm\ ChoDhpFisGiuGjvHjwIlyIlzKmzLmzLmzLnzMozMpzNqzNrzOs\ zOtzPuzPvzQwzQxzRyzRzzSzzSzzTzzTzzUzzUzzVzzVzzWzzW\ zzXzzXzzYzzYzzZzzZzz_zz_z } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 09-03-01 (Midget Abstraction [5]) Date: 09 Mar 2001 07:45:36 EST Classic FOTD -- March 09, 2001 (Rating 5) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Though I'll continue reading the mailing lists, this will be the last FOTD until March 15 -- the Ides of March. Until then, I'll be moving the heavy equipment into the new Fractal Central and trying to get things up and running once again. Once things are back in full operation, probably early next month, I'll also resume posting the FOTD images to ABPF. Today's quickie image is another that rates an average 5. I named it "Midget Abstraction" because I could think of nothing better, though it now reminds me of a small basin in a layer of small seashells. The formula 1.4Z^(-3.333)+14Z^(-0.3333)+(1/C) created the parent fractal, which is an inside-out thing shaped vaguely like a horse shoe, or a stunted tree on a wind swept hill. Rendered in the normal manner, the image is filled with holes. To add interest, I have set the inside to bof60 and the outside to tdis. The parameter file of today's image renders in 4-3/4 minutes on a Pentium 200mhz machine. How fast it will render on a PentiumIV 1500mhz machine is anybody's guess, since I have no such machine. To make life easier, Paul and Scott will post the GIF image to their web sites as soon as possible. Unfortu- nately, writing on a different machine, I do not have the URL's at hand, but they are included in every previous FOTD. The fractal weather today was bland and pleasant, with lots of sun and a temperature of 50F (10C). The fractal cats would have enjoyed a long romp outdoors, but with me so busy, they got none. All they got was angry. That's it for six days. I'll return in 135 hours or so with the next FOTD. Until then, take care, and live and breathe fractals. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Midget_Abstraction { ; time=0:04:44.44--SF5 on a p200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=-0.1027237763843053/+0.0570292793854257\ /1102476/1/62.499 params=1.4/-3.333/14/-0.3333/0/40 float=y maxiter=500 inside=bof60 outside=tdis periodicity=10 colors=000Yev6eyAbvE_tHYrLVpOTnSQlVOjTNkSLlRKmJ8kN\ ElQJmTOnXUn_Zobcpfiqehpegoefoeenednecmebleale`ke_k\ e_jeZieYieXheWheVgeUfeTfeSeeRe2hd3XU5LJ6A8NIMcQ_sX\ lfZXcaS`dOJW3RaCYgKemTnu_lr`joahlbfjcdgdcddaae__fY\ XgWUhMblRXjVSh_MfcHdhBbm7Yl6_l6al6cl3fl6dl8clBblD`\ lG_lIZlKXlNWlPVlSTwUSwXMlWRaVWSU`HTe8Mh7Qi7Tj6Wj6Z\ k5bk5el4hl4km1nn3po4nm6lj7jh8heAecBc`CaZE_WFYUHVRI\ TPJRMLPKMNHPMBNLFMLILLLKLOILRHLUGMYFM`DMcCMfBMiAMl\ 9MoBKmCJkEHiFGgGEeIDcJLDPMGUNIZOLdPOiQRnQTmTSlWSkZ\ RjaRidQhgQqeTlgRhiQdjP_lNWnM7h3IlCSoLarUkubuxktwjt\ vituhzzzstfsseg5XmV`ssdqsfoshmsjlskjsmhsofsqnytesr\ XmpOgnFal6Wr7Xn7Xj7Xf7Xc7X_7XW0ST7XTCYKD_PDaTEcY7Z\ bEdaKj`KpbQo_WnYamWglUcsOhoQlkSuuTrnUpgUnaUlVUjOUt\ 9RnEThIUbMVYQWSUXMYYChVHaZMWaRPeWJhn0og7m`DkVJiOPg\ HVeANqBUjB`cCfYCmRCsLEmMGhMIcMKZMMTMOOMQJMJCHREMYG\ ReHWlJ`q2UrB_sKetSku`quhw } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 04-03-01 (A Fungus Amungus [7]) Date: 09 Mar 2001 08:14:01 EST Mike Traynor wrote: >When I saw the 640x480 image I thought you were kidding about the 7. >However when I generated it at 1600x1200 I thought you were being >stingy. For some images, size does matter and this is one. Even >though, seen as 3D, the 'lighting' is coming from all around, not from >a single source (and without multiple shadows) the relief effect isn't >diminished, but made weirder - like the thing is some alien Stonehenge. Curiously, the size makes little difference with some images, but all the difference in the world with others. The "Fungus Amungus" image suffers as much as any image I have seen if rendered at low resolution. I search for my FOTD's in 640x480x256 mode. The posted render time is at SF5, but I archive the images at higher resolutions. Jim M. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Programmer Dude Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 04-03-01 (A Fungus Amungus [7]) Date: 09 Mar 2001 10:01:11 -0600 JimMuth@aol.com wrote: > Mike Traynor wrote: >> When I saw the 640x480 image I thought you were kidding about the 7. >> However when I generated it at 1600x1200 I thought you were being >> stingy. For some images, size does matter and this is one. Even >> though, seen as 3D, the 'lighting' is coming from all around, not from >> a single source (and without multiple shadows) the relief effect isn't >> diminished, but made weirder - like the thing is some alien Stonehenge. > > Curiously, the size makes little difference with some images, but all the > difference in the world with others. The "Fungus Amungus" image suffers > as much as any image I have seen if rendered at low resolution. I search > for my FOTD's in 640x480x256 mode. The posted render time is at SF5, > but I archive the images at higher resolutions. I also really (REALLY) liked that image and saved it (and the formula) for later rendering and exploring. Someone here rendered a few FOTDs using UltraFractal which supports high color modes and anti-aliasing. I'd like to do that with FUNGUS AMUNGUS, but I just got UF and don't (yet) have clue one on how to go about it. If someone would care to tender a quick tutorial, I'll do the rendering and make the image(s) available.... -- |_ CJSonnack _____________| How's my programming? | |_ http://www.Sonnack.com/ ___________________| Call: 1-800-DEV-NULL | |_____________________________________________|_______________________| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ralph Feltens Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 04-03-01 (A Fungus Amungus [7]) Date: 09 Mar 2001 18:59:51 +0100 Hi there Unfortunately, the fmod coloring option is not implemented in UltraFractal (the same applies to the outside = tdis option, which Jim has been using frequently in the last few weeks). At least that's my current knowledge. The normal procedure - highlighting the text of the par file, copying with Ctrl C and pasting into an active UF fractal window (Ctrl V) - will just produce a violett rectangle here. But, being a programmer, you could implement these features, if you know the source code for the algorithms or know how they work. Writing formulas, coloring options etc. is relatively simple in UF ... Ralph Programmer Dude wrote: > I also really (REALLY) liked that image and saved it (and the formula) for > later rendering and exploring. Someone here rendered a few FOTDs using > UltraFractal which supports high color modes and anti-aliasing. I'd like > to do that with FUNGUS AMUNGUS, but I just got UF and don't (yet) have > clue one on how to go about it. > > If someone would care to tender a quick tutorial, I'll do the rendering > and make the image(s) available.... > > -- > |_ CJSonnack _____________| How's my programming? | > |_ http://www.Sonnack.com/ ___________________| Call: 1-800-DEV-NULL | > |_____________________________________________|_______________________| > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@fractint.org > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Zorba the Hutt" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 04-03-01 (A Fungus Amungus [7]) Date: 09 Mar 2001 15:45:30 -0500 I'm the person who was rendering at high resolutions and such :) I was actually thinking of trying to dig out how that coloring option works and using it - however, due to a lack of time and hard drive space, I haven't been able to do anything recently. As soon as I've got some free time at all, I already rendered Sylvie Gallet's versions of "The Fractal Swarm" - I'll put them up as soon as I can. The rest will have to wait a while, though I hope to get them up eventually . . . maybe I'll have time this weekend. The homework load seems a bit light this weekend, so I might have time to work on the HTML and try to get that coloring option implemented :) -Zorba ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 12:59 PM > Hi there > > Unfortunately, the fmod coloring option is not implemented in UltraFractal (the > same applies to the outside = tdis option, which Jim has been using frequently > in the last few weeks). At least that's my current knowledge. The normal > procedure - highlighting the text of the par file, copying with Ctrl C and > pasting into an active UF fractal window (Ctrl V) - will just produce a violett > rectangle here. > > But, being a programmer, you could implement these features, if you know the > source code for the algorithms or know how they work. Writing formulas, > coloring options etc. is relatively simple in UF ... > > Ralph > > > > Programmer Dude wrote: > > > I also really (REALLY) liked that image and saved it (and the formula) for > > later rendering and exploring. Someone here rendered a few FOTDs using > > UltraFractal which supports high color modes and anti-aliasing. I'd like > > to do that with FUNGUS AMUNGUS, but I just got UF and don't (yet) have > > clue one on how to go about it. > > > > If someone would care to tender a quick tutorial, I'll do the rendering > > and make the image(s) available.... > > > > -- > > |_ CJSonnack _____________| How's my programming? | > > |_ http://www.Sonnack.com/ ___________________| Call: 1-800-DEV-NULL | > > |_____________________________________________|_______________________| > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > > Administrator: twegner@fractint.org > > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@fractint.org > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rupert Millard" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 04-03-01 (A Fungus Amungus [7]) Date: 10 Mar 2001 14:52:17 -0000 Hi, As soon as FMod came out in Fractint, I made a FMOD colouring formula for Ultra-Fractal. I cannot be sure that it produces *exactly* the same results as Fractint, but it looks right. ;-) It is: FMod(BOTH) { ;by Rupert Millard ;compatibility with fractint ;color = magnitude * colors / closeprox init: complex lastorbit=0 loop: if cabs(#z-#pixel)<=@proximity lastorbit=#z endif final: #index=cabs(lastorbit)/@proximity default: title = "FMod" param proximity default=0.01 endparam } Save the formula in a .UCL file in your UF formulas library directory. From, Rupert P.S. Please don't kill me for a slightly off-topic reply! ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 5:59 PM > Hi there > > Unfortunately, the fmod coloring option is not implemented in UltraFractal (the > same applies to the outside = tdis option, which Jim has been using frequently > in the last few weeks). At least that's my current knowledge. The normal > procedure - highlighting the text of the par file, copying with Ctrl C and > pasting into an active UF fractal window (Ctrl V) - will just produce a violett > rectangle here. > > But, being a programmer, you could implement these features, if you know the > source code for the algorithms or know how they work. Writing formulas, > coloring options etc. is relatively simple in UF ... > > Ralph > > > > Programmer Dude wrote: > > > I also really (REALLY) liked that image and saved it (and the formula) for > > later rendering and exploring. Someone here rendered a few FOTDs using > > UltraFractal which supports high color modes and anti-aliasing. I'd like > > to do that with FUNGUS AMUNGUS, but I just got UF and don't (yet) have > > clue one on how to go about it. > > > > If someone would care to tender a quick tutorial, I'll do the rendering > > and make the image(s) available.... > > > > -- > > |_ CJSonnack _____________| How's my programming? | > > |_ http://www.Sonnack.com/ ___________________| Call: 1-800-DEV-NULL | > > |_____________________________________________|_______________________| > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > > Administrator: twegner@fractint.org > > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@fractint.org > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Guy Marson Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 04-03-01 (A Fungus Amungus [7]) Date: 10 Mar 2001 21:40:16 +0100 At 14:52 10.03.2001 -0000, you wrote: >Hi, > >As soon as FMod came out in Fractint, I made a FMOD colouring formula for >Ultra-Fractal. what is Ultra-Fractal ?-)) cheers, Guy Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ken Childress Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 04-03-01 (A Fungus Amungus [7]) Date: 10 Mar 2001 15:36:47 -0800 At 12:40 PM 3/10/01, you wrote: >At 14:52 10.03.2001 -0000, you wrote: > >Hi, > > > >As soon as FMod came out in Fractint, I made a FMOD colouring formula for > >Ultra-Fractal. > >what is Ultra-Fractal ?-)) See www.ultrafractal.com and www.parkenet.org/jp/ufresources.html. Ken... Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Coppin" Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 08-03-01 (Fractal Orchids [6]) Date: 08 Mar 2001 16:47:21 -0000 >From: JimMuth@aol.com >Reply-To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >CC: philofractal@lists.fractalus.com >Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 08-03-01 (Fractal Orchids [6]) >Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:36:18 EST > > >Classic FOTD -- March 08, 2001 (Rating 6) > >Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: > >Today's image reminds me of a group of orchids growing in some >forgotten tropical rain forest. I named it "Fractal Orchids" >and rated it a 6. For once, I can see the resemblance. A very pleasing and unusual image. Keep it up, Jim! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Programmer Dude Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 04-03-01 (A Fungus Amungus [7]) Date: 09 Mar 2001 10:01:11 -0600 JimMuth@aol.com wrote: > Mike Traynor wrote: >> When I saw the 640x480 image I thought you were kidding about the 7. >> However when I generated it at 1600x1200 I thought you were being >> stingy. For some images, size does matter and this is one. Even >> though, seen as 3D, the 'lighting' is coming from all around, not from >> a single source (and without multiple shadows) the relief effect isn't >> diminished, but made weirder - like the thing is some alien Stonehenge. > > Curiously, the size makes little difference with some images, but all the > difference in the world with others. The "Fungus Amungus" image suffers > as much as any image I have seen if rendered at low resolution. I search > for my FOTD's in 640x480x256 mode. The posted render time is at SF5, > but I archive the images at higher resolutions. I also really (REALLY) liked that image and saved it (and the formula) for later rendering and exploring. Someone here rendered a few FOTDs using UltraFractal which supports high color modes and anti-aliasing. I'd like to do that with FUNGUS AMUNGUS, but I just got UF and don't (yet) have clue one on how to go about it. If someone would care to tender a quick tutorial, I'll do the rendering and make the image(s) available.... -- |_ CJSonnack _____________| How's my programming? | |_ http://www.Sonnack.com/ ___________________| Call: 1-800-DEV-NULL | |_____________________________________________|_______________________| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 07-03-01 (All Wrung Out [5]) Date: 06 Mar 2001 22:52:03 -0500 (EST) Classic FOTD -- March 07, 2001 (Rating 5) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: It's been another very busy day here at the old Fractal Central. With so much stuff to be packed, it's a wonder that I found the time to wander through the world of fractals. But find the time I did, and today's image is where I stopped. The fractal formula: 1.3Z^(-1.5)-0.65Z^(1.5)+(1/C) drew the image. I named the picture "All Wrung Out" when I noticed that the twisted elements resemble a large sheet being wrung dry. When all was finisher, I studied everything and rated the image a 5. The parameter file renders in a speedy 1-1/2 minutes. Once the GIF image has been posted, the download will be equally as fast. The image will be available shortly on the Web at: and at: The fractal weather today here at Fractal Central was very cold, very cloudy, very windy, with a few flurries of snow thrown in to keep things interesting. The cats naturally stayed inside all day. That's it for today, fractal fans. But I'll return tomorrow with another fractal and an abbreviated discussion. Until then, take care, and when one calculates a fractal, the future can be known. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ All_Wrung_Out { ; time=0:01:30.52 -- SF5 on P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=mandelbrotmix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=-0.52146504333020520/+0.338856854379959\ 20/282.3461/1/27.499 params=1/-1.5/-0.5/1.5/0.3/0 float=y maxiter=268 inside=0 outside=tdis periodicity=10 colors=222tZBtaCseDqhFplGnnInsJmuKlxMjxNjxNiiahOne\ NjdMhbKdaJa`JZZIVXGSVFOUFMSDJRCFQBCN98M95K82J62I52\ G52KB2OF2RJ2VN2YR2aV4d`5hd6jh9nlBqpCutDxxFxwGxuIxt\ IxsJxqJxpKxpMxnMxmNxlNxjOxiQxhQxhRxfRxeSxdUxbUxaVx\ aVpQRhDO`2MU2JS2KS2KR2KR2KR2MQ2MQ2MQ2MO2KN4JN5JM8I\ MBGKCGKFFJIFJJDIMCIOCGQBGSBFV9FX8DZ8Da6Cb6Ce5Bh4Bi\ 49l29m26lB5jI4jQ2iX2hb2hj2fq2fx2hu4it8jqBlpFlnJmlM\ njQpiUpfYqe`sddtaht`juZnwXsxVuxUfjFeiGdiGdiIbiIbiJ\ aiJ`hJ`hKZhKZhMYhMYhMXfNVfNVfOUfOUfQSfQReQReRQeRQe\ SOeSOeSaSSnFSlKVjQYiU`hZbededhhbmjaqlKYY4FJ6JI9MIC\ OGFRGIUGKXFMZFOaFRdDUfDXjDZmCapCbsCeuBhxBjxBmx9px9\ qx9lxChsFbjIZbKUXNQOQKGSG8VC2YI2NM2CQ42U42S62R92QB\ 2OD2NF2MI4KJ5JM6JN9IQBGRCFUFDVGCYIBZK9aM9bN8aM8aK8\ aJ8aI6aI6aG6aF6aD6aD5`C5`B5`95`84`84`64`54`44`4YjQ\ xujxwiwwhuwftwfswepxdnxbmxblxajx`hxZfxZexYdxXbxV`x\ VZxUYxSXxRVxRB9xCBxCBxDCx } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ralph Feltens Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 04-03-01 (A Fungus Amungus [7]) Date: 09 Mar 2001 18:59:51 +0100 Hi there Unfortunately, the fmod coloring option is not implemented in UltraFractal (the same applies to the outside = tdis option, which Jim has been using frequently in the last few weeks). At least that's my current knowledge. The normal procedure - highlighting the text of the par file, copying with Ctrl C and pasting into an active UF fractal window (Ctrl V) - will just produce a violett rectangle here. But, being a programmer, you could implement these features, if you know the source code for the algorithms or know how they work. Writing formulas, coloring options etc. is relatively simple in UF ... Ralph Programmer Dude wrote: > I also really (REALLY) liked that image and saved it (and the formula) for > later rendering and exploring. Someone here rendered a few FOTDs using > UltraFractal which supports high color modes and anti-aliasing. I'd like > to do that with FUNGUS AMUNGUS, but I just got UF and don't (yet) have > clue one on how to go about it. > > If someone would care to tender a quick tutorial, I'll do the rendering > and make the image(s) available.... > > -- > |_ CJSonnack _____________| How's my programming? | > |_ http://www.Sonnack.com/ ___________________| Call: 1-800-DEV-NULL | > |_____________________________________________|_______________________| > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@fractint.org > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 07-03-01 (All Wrung Out [5]) Date: 07 Mar 2001 08:31:18 EST At 12:28 PM 3/7/01 -0000, Andrew Coppin wrote: Jim wrote: >>I named the picture "All Wrung Out" when I noticed that >>the twisted elements resemble a large sheet being wrung dry. >Few! For a moment there, I thought it might be that *you* >were feeling "All wrung out" ;-)) Actually, your instincts were right. The hectic activity is partly responsible for the name, which I intended to have a double meaning. I'm pretty much physically worn out, due to the work involved in moving. My compulsion to search for fractals however continues unabated, as it has for over 13 years. My frustration is that I have so little time to write the FOTD, but that will end early next month when I get settled into the new Fractal Central. FOTD in 16 hours. Jim M. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 06-03-01 (Ring of Acorns [6]) Date: 05 Mar 2001 22:57:25 EST Classic FOTD -- March 06, 2001 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Due to too much work, it's another short discussion. The fractal formula: 0.99(1/Z)-0.99Z+(1/C), when calculated with a bailout radius of 110, draws a Mandeloid distorted almost to the point of being unrecognizable. But hidden in this figure lie many pleasing scenes. Today's image is but one of these scenes. I named the picture "Ring of Acorns" when I saw in the tree outside the window, a squirrel with his nut. I rated the picture a somewhat conservative 6. The parameter file takes over 9 minutes to render on a Pentium 200mhz. The best way to tell if the wait is worth the result is to download the file of the GIF image from: or from: giving Paul and Scott a chance to post the image. The fractal weather today was cloudy and cold, with 1 cm of snow in the morning, accompanied by media weather people being made fun of as they tried to explain why we did not get the 75cm that some had foolishly predicted. This little bit of snow, and the temperature of 35F (1.5C), kept the cats indoors. The work on the new Fractal Central continues unabated. Late this week we'll begin moving in our equipment. But for now it's time to call it a day. Until tomorrow, take care, and does the world of fractals have a god who can change the rules? Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Ring_of_Acorns { ; time=0:09:25.34 -- SF5 on P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=-0.17836323637819480/+0.266988784076264\ 00/1.262678e+007/1/-10 params=1/-1/-1/1/-0.01/10 float=y maxiter=1200 inside=0 logmap=135 periodicity=10 colors=0001DA3ID3KF2LF1MG1OH0PHQj8Ph8Mf8Lc8Ia8H_8F\ Y8cW8UK8AS87P85O83L82K8OW0QY0SY0UZ1VZ4W_8Z_D_aHaaL\ bbPcbUecYhcbiefjejlfomfsofwrbus_ruWovUlwPiyMfzKewM\ cvPbuSarV_pYZo_YlbWjeVifVhhYfhZehacibbieaif_jiZjjY\ jlWloVlpUlsSmuQmwPmyOmzKhyHbyDYwBSw7Mw4Hv1Cv07v2Bw\ 4Fw7HyALyCPzFSzHWzK_zMbzPfzSjzVmzYrz_vzbyzezzhzzkz\ zfzzczz_zzYyzVvyQswOpuKmsHlrFioBfm8cl4ai2Zh0Wf0Uc0\ Qb0Pa0Sc0Uf0Vh0Wj0Zl0_o0ap0bs0cv0fw0hz0iz0jz0lz0jz\ 0jz0jz0jz0jz0jz0jz0jz0jz0jz1jz1jzzzz0iz0ip0if0hZ0h\ P0hG0h80cA1aA3ZA5WA8UABQADOBGLFIIKLGPODUQBZNDcKFhI\ HmGJrELwANyAOyBMwBLwBKwCIvCHvCGvDFuUDucCumCumGZrDY\ wCYzBYz8Wz7Wb5W_4WY2VV1VS0VP0UM0UK0UH0UK0VL0VM0WO0\ WP0YQ0YS0ZV1ZW2_Y3_Z3a_4aa5bb5bc7cf8chAeiAejBflCfm\ ChoDhpFisGiuGjvHjwIlyIlzKmzLmzLmzLnzMozMpzNqzNrzOs\ zOtzPuzPvzQwzQxzRyzRzzSzzSzzTzzTzzUzzUzzVzzVzzWzzW\ zzXzzXzzYzzYzzZzzZzz_zz_z } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Zorba the Hutt" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 04-03-01 (A Fungus Amungus [7]) Date: 09 Mar 2001 15:45:30 -0500 I'm the person who was rendering at high resolutions and such :) I was actually thinking of trying to dig out how that coloring option works and using it - however, due to a lack of time and hard drive space, I haven't been able to do anything recently. As soon as I've got some free time at all, I already rendered Sylvie Gallet's versions of "The Fractal Swarm" - I'll put them up as soon as I can. The rest will have to wait a while, though I hope to get them up eventually . . . maybe I'll have time this weekend. The homework load seems a bit light this weekend, so I might have time to work on the HTML and try to get that coloring option implemented :) -Zorba ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 12:59 PM > Hi there > > Unfortunately, the fmod coloring option is not implemented in UltraFractal (the > same applies to the outside = tdis option, which Jim has been using frequently > in the last few weeks). At least that's my current knowledge. The normal > procedure - highlighting the text of the par file, copying with Ctrl C and > pasting into an active UF fractal window (Ctrl V) - will just produce a violett > rectangle here. > > But, being a programmer, you could implement these features, if you know the > source code for the algorithms or know how they work. Writing formulas, > coloring options etc. is relatively simple in UF ... > > Ralph > > > > Programmer Dude wrote: > > > I also really (REALLY) liked that image and saved it (and the formula) for > > later rendering and exploring. Someone here rendered a few FOTDs using > > UltraFractal which supports high color modes and anti-aliasing. I'd like > > to do that with FUNGUS AMUNGUS, but I just got UF and don't (yet) have > > clue one on how to go about it. > > > > If someone would care to tender a quick tutorial, I'll do the rendering > > and make the image(s) available.... > > > > -- > > |_ CJSonnack _____________| How's my programming? | > > |_ http://www.Sonnack.com/ ___________________| Call: 1-800-DEV-NULL | > > |_____________________________________________|_______________________| > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > > Administrator: twegner@fractint.org > > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@fractint.org > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 04-03-01 (A Fungus Amungus [7]) Date: 09 Mar 2001 08:14:01 EST Mike Traynor wrote: >When I saw the 640x480 image I thought you were kidding about the 7. >However when I generated it at 1600x1200 I thought you were being >stingy. For some images, size does matter and this is one. Even >though, seen as 3D, the 'lighting' is coming from all around, not from >a single source (and without multiple shadows) the relief effect isn't >diminished, but made weirder - like the thing is some alien Stonehenge. Curiously, the size makes little difference with some images, but all the difference in the world with others. The "Fungus Amungus" image suffers as much as any image I have seen if rendered at low resolution. I search for my FOTD's in 640x480x256 mode. The posted render time is at SF5, but I archive the images at higher resolutions. Jim M. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Coppin" Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 07-03-01 (All Wrung Out [5]) Date: 07 Mar 2001 12:28:25 -0000 >From: Jim Muth >Reply-To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >CC: philofractal@lists.fractalus.com >Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 07-03-01 (All Wrung Out [5]) >Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:52:03 -0500 (EST) > > >Classic FOTD -- March 07, 2001 (Rating 5) > >Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: >I named the picture "All Wrung Out" when I noticed that >the twisted elements resemble a large sheet being wrung dry. Few! For a moment there, I thought it might be that *you* where feeling "All wrung out" ;-)) Andrew. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 09-03-01 (Midget Abstraction [5]) Date: 09 Mar 2001 07:45:36 EST Classic FOTD -- March 09, 2001 (Rating 5) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Though I'll continue reading the mailing lists, this will be the last FOTD until March 15 -- the Ides of March. Until then, I'll be moving the heavy equipment into the new Fractal Central and trying to get things up and running once again. Once things are back in full operation, probably early next month, I'll also resume posting the FOTD images to ABPF. Today's quickie image is another that rates an average 5. I named it "Midget Abstraction" because I could think of nothing better, though it now reminds me of a small basin in a layer of small seashells. The formula 1.4Z^(-3.333)+14Z^(-0.3333)+(1/C) created the parent fractal, which is an inside-out thing shaped vaguely like a horse shoe, or a stunted tree on a wind swept hill. Rendered in the normal manner, the image is filled with holes. To add interest, I have set the inside to bof60 and the outside to tdis. The parameter file of today's image renders in 4-3/4 minutes on a Pentium 200mhz machine. How fast it will render on a PentiumIV 1500mhz machine is anybody's guess, since I have no such machine. To make life easier, Paul and Scott will post the GIF image to their web sites as soon as possible. Unfortu- nately, writing on a different machine, I do not have the URL's at hand, but they are included in every previous FOTD. The fractal weather today was bland and pleasant, with lots of sun and a temperature of 50F (10C). The fractal cats would have enjoyed a long romp outdoors, but with me so busy, they got none. All they got was angry. That's it for six days. I'll return in 135 hours or so with the next FOTD. Until then, take care, and live and breathe fractals. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Midget_Abstraction { ; time=0:04:44.44--SF5 on a p200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=-0.1027237763843053/+0.0570292793854257\ /1102476/1/62.499 params=1.4/-3.333/14/-0.3333/0/40 float=y maxiter=500 inside=bof60 outside=tdis periodicity=10 colors=000Yev6eyAbvE_tHYrLVpOTnSQlVOjTNkSLlRKmJ8kN\ ElQJmTOnXUn_Zobcpfiqehpegoefoeenednecmebleale`ke_k\ e_jeZieYieXheWheVgeUfeTfeSeeRe2hd3XU5LJ6A8NIMcQ_sX\ lfZXcaS`dOJW3RaCYgKemTnu_lr`joahlbfjcdgdcddaae__fY\ XgWUhMblRXjVSh_MfcHdhBbm7Yl6_l6al6cl3fl6dl8clBblD`\ lG_lIZlKXlNWlPVlSTwUSwXMlWRaVWSU`HTe8Mh7Qi7Tj6Wj6Z\ k5bk5el4hl4km1nn3po4nm6lj7jh8heAecBc`CaZE_WFYUHVRI\ TPJRMLPKMNHPMBNLFMLILLLKLOILRHLUGMYFM`DMcCMfBMiAMl\ 9MoBKmCJkEHiFGgGEeIDcJLDPMGUNIZOLdPOiQRnQTmTSlWSkZ\ RjaRidQhgQqeTlgRhiQdjP_lNWnM7h3IlCSoLarUkubuxktwjt\ vituhzzzstfsseg5XmV`ssdqsfoshmsjlskjsmhsofsqnytesr\ XmpOgnFal6Wr7Xn7Xj7Xf7Xc7X_7XW0ST7XTCYKD_PDaTEcY7Z\ bEdaKj`KpbQo_WnYamWglUcsOhoQlkSuuTrnUpgUnaUlVUjOUt\ 9RnEThIUbMVYQWSUXMYYChVHaZMWaRPeWJhn0og7m`DkVJiOPg\ HVeANqBUjB`cCfYCmRCsLEmMGhMIcMKZMMTMOOMQJMJCHREMYG\ ReHWlJ`q2UrB_sKetSku`quhw } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 08-03-01 (Fractal Orchids [6]) Date: 08 Mar 2001 00:36:18 EST Classic FOTD -- March 08, 2001 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: It was another busy day at the new Fractal Central. I spent most of the day hanging shades, a job that is sure to bring out the worst in one. But after many choice words, the job was accomplished, and my attention turned to the world of fractals. Today's image reminds me of a group of orchids growing in some forgotten tropical rain forest. I named it "Fractal Orchids" and rated it a 6. Today's fractal is the latest in my series of 'evaporated' midgets, which I create by taking a fractal whose formula contains a negative power of Z and raising the bailout to a ridiculous value. The extreme bailout causes the outside parts of the image to disappear, leaving a blank screen totally composed of 'inside' stuff. But the ghost of the original image still exists in the blank scene, and can be revealed with various non-flat inside fills. Today's image for example uses a fill of bof61. The formula behind today's image takes a tiny bit of Z^(-13) and adds 20 times as much Z^(-0.8) before adding 1/C. The resulting fractal was enhanced in a separate graphic program, but the enhancement is accurately recorded in the parameter file. The image takes a bit over 4 minutes to render on a tired Pentium 200mhz machine. It takes about the same time to log onto the internet and download the GIF file of the image from: or from: The fractal weather today was much improved, as bright sun and mild breezes combined to produce a temperature of 48F (9C). The fractal cats spent a half hour outdoors enjoying the pleasant conditions, but would have preferred a far longer stay in the sun. Until tomorrow, take care of your fractals. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Fractal_Orchids { ; time=0:04:17.92 -- SF5 on P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip center-mag=+4.10286840502174100/-0.036942999645177\ 60/11526.9/1/-95 params=1/-13/20/-0.8/-0.965/1e+050 float=y maxiter=900 inside=bof61 periodicity=10 colors=000k0Ld0GZ0BS04N10G30B409808C07G05K04O33S51\ X90`C0dF0hH0lK0pN0sP1mL8hJDbGKYDP1LXN7bH4hC1o70u10\ z00z00z00z00z00z00z03z05z07e13F80HF4KL9NSDPZJSeNVl\ SYsX`zabzeF1F`wZZsVYoSXkOVfLTbHTZFSVBRR8PN4OJ1NF0L\ B0L70H90FC0BF08H04J01L00O00R00S00P01O1708BLDGKKKJP\ OGXTFaYDhbCmfBuk9zoJvsRswZpzhmzpkzyhzzezzfzzfzvfzs\ fzpfzlfzifzefybfzpFvXfuTfsRfmVkhZobbrZfvTkyOozKrz0\ VL7aNFfNOlNXrNdwNepNfkNheNiZNkTNlONmHNoCNp7Nr0NdRk\ dKieChe5hhRdkl`mkXokSpiPsiLuhJvhFyhBzf8zf4ze1ze0ze\ 0f8hb9fZBfVCeSDeOFdKGdGHdDJb9Kb5La1Na0OaBNZLLYXLXf\ KTrJSzJRvPYXi0ae8faJlYTbhk`hiXhhThfPheNhbJhaGh`DhZ\ 9hY7hV3hT0hS0hR0hP0hO0dL0aK4ZJ9XHDTGHPDLNCRKBVH9ZF\ 8bB5h84l53p31u00k5GaBXSGlJLzNOwPRsSToVXkYYf``bbbZe\ eVhfRkiNmlJpoFsrBvs7yv3zy0zz0zz0zr0zf0zX5zL9zBDzGC\ zKBzO9yS8yY7ya5we4wi3wm3Of50a83`5G`3T`0f`0u`0z`0zZ\ 0wY0rY1mX4hV7dV8z0bw0Yp0S } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Traynor Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 04-03-01 (A Fungus Amungus [7]) Date: 08 Mar 2001 06:57:46 -0500 Jim, > > Classic FOTD -- March 04, 2001 (Rating 7) > > I rated the image a 7 because of the unusually pronounced three- > dimensional effect. When I saw the 640x480 image I thought you were kidding about the 7. However when I generated it at 1600x1200 I thought you were being stingy. For some images, size does matter and this is one. Even though, seen as 3D, the 'lighting' is coming from all around, not from a single source (and without multiple shadows) the relief effect isn't diminished, but made weirder - like the thing is some alien Stonehenge. BTW, I still don't think that you should make the concession of calling it the "Classic" FOTD. Mike Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Multiple Bogeys" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 04-03-01 (A Fungus Amungus [7]) Date: 13 Mar 2001 01:41:58 -0500 >what is Ultra-Fractal ?-)) An excellent way to crash Windows 98. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Multiple Bogeys" Subject: (fractint) Duplicate messages. Date: 13 Mar 2001 01:47:11 -0500 Anyone else noticing some duplicate messages here lately? I got each of the last four FOTDs twice, and many other posts doubled as well. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) Duplicate messages. Date: 13 Mar 2001 00:58:16 -0600 Multiple Bogeys wrote: > > Anyone else noticing some duplicate messages here lately? I got each of the > last four FOTDs twice, and many other posts doubled as well. > No problem here. No problem here. Haven't received any duplicate messages. Haven't received any duplicate messages. Cheers, Cheers, Bob Bob -- ******************************************************* We interrupt this program to bring you loud static. ******************************************************* -- ******************************************************* We interrupt this program to bring you loud static. ******************************************************* Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ulrich =?iso-8859-1?q?Gr=FCn?= Subject: (fractint) Xfractint compilation fails: cannot find -ltermcap Date: 13 Mar 2001 10:21:13 +0100 When I try to compile Xfractint 310 or 20-07, compilation fails with following error message. -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lm -lncurses -ltermcap /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ltermcap collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [xfractint] Fehler 1 [root@hotzenplotz Xfract]# Groeten uit Utrecht, Ulrich -- _________________________________________________________ *Linux: the choice of a GNU generation* _________________________________________________________ Ulrich Grün mail: dzjembee@dds.nl, ulrich@mavnet.dynip.com icq: 35629246 System: AMD-K6 350, 192MB. OS: RedHat 7, Kernel: 2.4.2pre4 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott D. Boyd" Subject: Re: (fractint) Xfractint compilation fails: cannot find -ltermcap Date: 13 Mar 2001 05:27:20 -0600 On Tuesday 13 March 2001 03:21, Ulrich Gr=FCn wrote: > When I try to compile Xfractint 310 or 20-07, compilation fails wit= h > following > error message. > > -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lm -lncurses -ltermcap > /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ltermcap > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > make: *** [xfractint] Fehler 1 > [root@hotzenplotz Xfract]# > Open the Makefile in an editor, find this line: LIBS =3D -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lm -lncurses -ltermcap and remove the "-ltermcap" at the end and try again. I I had that same problem back in 1999 when I first compiled Xfractin= t,=20 and that's what I was told to do. Regards, Scott --=20 sdboyd56@swbell.net http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/ I always wanted to be a procrastinator,=20 but I never got around to it. -- Unknown Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Doug Stewart" Subject: Re: (fractint) Duplicate messages. Date: 13 Mar 2001 07:00:18 -0500 Yes I got the same group of duplicates. Doug Stewart ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 1:47 AM > Anyone else noticing some duplicate messages here lately? I got each of the > last four FOTDs twice, and many other posts doubled as well. > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@fractint.org > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) Re: Duplicate messages. Date: 13 Mar 2001 08:09:36 EST At 01:47 AM 3/13/01 -0500, Multiple B. wrote: >Anyone else noticing some duplicate messages here lately? I got >each of the last four FOTDs twice, and many other posts doubled >as well. Yes, I received about 5 duplicates on Monday. The solution was simple -- I deleted them. I have no idea from where or why they are appearing. Jim M. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Traynor Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 04-03-01 (A Fungus Amungus [7]) Date: 13 Mar 2001 08:17:18 -0500 Multiple Bogeys wrote: > > >what is Ultra-Fractal ?-)) > > An excellent way to crash Windows 98. Not in my experience. UF is greatly lacking as a Win98 crasher. Mike Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Programmer Dude Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 04-03-01 (A Fungus Amungus [7]) Date: 13 Mar 2001 09:19:06 -0600 Mike Traynor wrote: > Multiple Bogeys wrote: >>> what is Ultra-Fractal ?-)) >> >> An excellent way to crash Windows 98. > > Not in my experience. UF is greatly lacking as a Win98 crasher. Ditto. I think it's a wonderful program; well worth registering. After being a loyal FractInt user for years, I'm afraid UF is really turning my head: -works *natively* in Windows (i.e. it's a real Windows program) -full color -anti-aliasing Those *alone* make it wonderful! -- |_ CJSonnack _____________| How's my programming? | |_ http://www.Sonnack.com/ ___________________| Call: 1-800-DEV-NULL | |_____________________________________________|_______________________| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John W Evans" Subject: RE: (fractint) Duplicate messages. Date: 13 Mar 2001 20:14:23 -0000 Same here > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Multiple Bogeys > Sent: 13 March 2001 06:47 > To: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (fractint) Duplicate messages. > > > Anyone else noticing some duplicate messages here lately? I got each of the > last four FOTDs twice, and many other posts doubled as well. > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@fractint.org > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Silverman Subject: (fractint) A parallel version of fractint Date: 14 Mar 2001 01:17:07 -0800 Hi. IBM just gave the University of Washington EE department 10 RS/6000 Model 44-270s, each of which has 4 CPUs and 4 GBytes of RAM. I am in the process of porting xfractint to AIX 4.3.3 using VisualAge C++ Professional / C for AIX Compiler, Version 5. I have spent perhaps 30 minutes on the project so far, which of course isn't enough. Before I get too involved in this little project, I have some questions: 1) Does anybody know the peculiar combination of switches required to get the code to compile with this combination of compiler and operating system? I'm sure I can figure it out eventually, but if somebody has this information at their fingertips, I'd love to know. It runs fine on Linux. 2) Why is MSDOS defined as 1 in port.h? Should that not be in a conditional somewhere? 3) With all of the CPUs I have at my disposal, I'd like to build a parallel version of the xfractint. Has anybody ever done anything like this? The Mandlebrot set ought to be easy to parallelize, because there is no dependencies between any point and any other point. Many thanks, Jeff -- Jeff Silverman, PC guy, Linux wannabe, Java wannabe, Software engineer, husband, father etc. See my website: http://www.commercialventvac.com/~jeffs jeffs@mail.commercialventvac.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: (fractint) MOCA Winners !! Date: 14 Mar 2001 23:48:52 -0600 The MOCA winners have been announced: http://www.donarcher.com/donnie/contest/winners.htm Come see the latest artists that should receive congratulations on some very fine images. Such artists as, Fernanda Steele, Terry Wright, Christina Bartsch, and many others. Sincerely, P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RENRAD1@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) MOCA Winners !! Date: 15 Mar 2001 01:50:14 EST Wow... very fine work , congratulations to *everyone*! And thanks, Paul, for the head's up to the list...i'd have missed seeing them without your notice! Now, I'll just go and burn my old fractals on diskettes. Naawwww. Congrats again, to all the artists! Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tony (Anthony) Hanmer" Subject: (fractint) L-systems questions Date: 15 Mar 2001 13:01:03 +0500 1) I'm desperately seeking the Robin who helped me last year with L-systems rendering. Is it Robin Bussell? I've lost your last name and e-mail address. 2) I've been pondering the possibilities of rendering the Mandelbrot Set as an L-system for many months now, and am finally daring to put this forth as a challenge to those who are much better at L-systems than I am. (I wouldn't even begin to know where to start.) Any takers...? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) L-systems questions Date: 15 Mar 2001 02:44:22 -0600 Tony (Anthony) Hanmer wrote: > > 1) I'm desperately seeking the Robin who helped > me last year with L-systems rendering. Is it > Robin Bussell? I've lost your last name and > e-mail address. Have you tried looking through the Fractal Census: http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/Fractal_Census.html Some of the individuals that responded to your various L-System postings to the List were: Guy Marson Harry Bissell Rich Thompson / Phil McRevis Morgan L. Owens Mark Christenson Collin / Barry N. Merenoff Sincerely, P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ulrich =?iso-8859-1?q?Gr=FCn?= Subject: Re: (fractint) Xfractint compilation fails: cannot find -ltermcap Date: 15 Mar 2001 11:28:55 +0100 Am Dienstag 13 März 2001 12:27, bereicherte Scott D. Boyd uns mit folgender Nachricht: > On Tuesday 13 March 2001 03:21, Ulrich Grün wrote: > > When I try to compile Xfractint 310 or 20-07, compilation fails with > > following > > error message. > > > > -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lm -lncurses -ltermcap > > /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ltermcap > > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > > make: *** [xfractint] Fehler 1 > > [root@hotzenplotz Xfract]# > > Open the Makefile in an editor, find this line: > > LIBS = -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lm -lncurses -ltermcap > > and remove the "-ltermcap" at the end and try again. > I I had that same problem back in 1999 when I first compiled Xfractint, > and that's what I was told to do. Unfortunately, when I do so, I receive (the same) error mssg: _a.o unix.o unixscr.o video.o zoom.o -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lm -lncurses -ltermcap /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ltermcap collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [xfractint] Fehler 1 [root@hotzenplotz Xfract20-07]# Groeten uit Utrecht, Ulrich -- _________________________________________________________ *Linux: the choice of a GNU generation* _________________________________________________________ Ulrich Grün Amsterdamsestraatweg 609 BIS 3553 EJ UTRECHT Tel:+31302467141 mail: dzjembee@dds.nl, ulrich@mavnet.dynip.com icq: 35629246 System: AMD-K6 350, 192MB. OS: RedHat 7, Kernel: 2.4.2pre4 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ulrich =?iso-8859-1?q?Gr=FCn?= Subject: Erratum (Was Re: (fractint) Xfractint compilation fails: cannot find -ltermcap) Date: 15 Mar 2001 11:48:07 +0100 I was a little too fast with replying the error message. '-ltermcap' was mentioned twice in the Makefile. Now, I wonder wether it will be possible to do colour cycling.... and + - don't do anything (or do I need the '-ltermcap' for this?) > Unfortunately, when I do so, I receive (the same) error mssg: > _a.o unix.o unixscr.o video.o zoom.o -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lm -lncurses > -ltermcap > /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ltermcap > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > make: *** [xfractint] Fehler 1 > [root@hotzenplotz Xfract20-07]# Groeten uit Utrecht, Ulrich -- _________________________________________________________ *Linux: the choice of a GNU generation* _________________________________________________________ Ulrich Grün mail: dzjembee@dds.nl, ulrich@mavnet.dynip.com icq: 35629246 System: AMD-K6 350, 192MB. OS: RedHat 7, Kernel: 2.4.2pre4 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 15-03-01 (The Atomic Midget [4]) Date: 15 Mar 2001 09:01:50 EST Classic FOTD -- March 15, 2001 (Rating 4) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: It's late and I'm still very busy setting up the new Fractal Central. But despite the rush, I have found a fractal, which I now present as the hurried FOTD for March 15. There is no time for a discussion. One is not necessary, for the fractal speaks for itself. (A talking fractal!) The fractal weather has been uneventful. The fractal cats are restless but in fine shape. I don't have the URL's of Paul's and Scott's web sites handy. The full-length FOTD discussion will return in a few days. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ The_Atomic_Midget { ; time=0:16:33.55 -- SF5 on a p200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+1.10354066757747300/+0.031772651212448\ 99/7.633081e+010/1/-82.512/0.014 params=1.92/2.31/-12.8/-0.88/-0.8/0 float=y maxiter=3000 inside=0 periodicity=10 colors=0001FT0O`0Vi0crvFzuIzsLxsOurQrpTooXlo_imafl\ dcjg`jiYccaX_dQVgJQjCLm6Gp0Cs07v0Cr0Fm3Ii6LdAO`DQX\ GVSJYOO`JQcFTfAXi7_p3`v0az0cz0dz0`p0XVCS9OJI_CQi4_\ s0fz4azCYzIVzPQzVOzaJziFzoCzv7zz4zz0zz0zz0zu0zj0yT\ 0vM0sG0p70oD0lJ3jO9iTFgYLfcQdgVcm`arf`xl_zrYzxXzzV\ zrfzirzdzxgzsjzomzjpzfszavzYxzTyzPzzLzzGzzCzz7zz3z\ z9zzDzzJvxOosSgoY`laTifMfYFXQ7OJ4FC164003001001000\ 00000000000406A0CF0GL0MP0QV0X`0`d0fj0jo0pu0uz0zz0z\ z1zz1zpPvTlcYjaaj`fi`ji_oiYsgYxgXzgVzfVzfTzcTwZMrU\ OmPPhKPcFKZAFU5AP0AK0AF0AA0A50A10A10A10AF5ASAKdKUr\ PzzQzxPzrOzmMzgLzcJzYIzTGzOFzJDzDCz9AzD9yI7yL6yP4y\ S3yX3y_1yc0yf0yj0ym0yp0xr0vs0uu0sx1ry1rz1pz3oz3mz4\ lz4jz4juOSgfAVy0Xu0Yp4_lA`gG`cLa_QcVXdQadOfaAm_0uX\ 0ziTzj`zjfzjlzlszlyzlzzpzzszzvzzzzzzzyzzxvssljocaj\ TTfLPaIUTFcMCmF9n76q03t00w0GzTXzzSzVPz0Gz09z40zC0z\ J0zQ0z_3zfCzm9z`6zO4zC3zL } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: Erratum (Was Re: (fractint) Xfractint compilation fails: cannot find -ltermcap) Date: 15 Mar 2001 10:32:55 -0600 Ulrich Grün wrote: > > I was a little too fast with replying the error > message. '-ltermcap' was mentioned twice in the > Makefile. > > Now, I wonder wether it will be possible to do > colour cycling.... and + - don't do anything > (or do I need the '-ltermcap' for this?) Termcap (along with terminfo) is the mechanism by which UNIX systems support hundreds of varieties of ASCII terminals without the need for special drivers for each terminal. But not a Linux user, I'm not sure that these apply for that operating system. I do know that there had been a problem a year ago with some of the keys not working correctly. I believe it had something to do with the defines created in fractint.h (FK_F1 etc.). Sincerely, P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott D. Boyd" Subject: Re: Erratum (Was Re: (fractint) Xfractint compilation fails: cannot Date: 15 Mar 2001 10:29:36 -0600 On Thursday 15 March 2001 04:48, Ulrich Gr=FCn wrote: > I was a little too fast with replying the error message. '-ltermcap= ' was > mentioned twice in the Makefile. > > Now, I wonder wether it will be possible to do colour cycling.... > and + - don't do anything (or do I need the '-ltermcap' for thi= s?) > A new feature was introduced in version 20.1.07 - the ability to run= =20 Xfractint while your Xserver is running in 16-bit color mode. (more t= han=20 256 colors.) The fractal images, however, are still limited to 256 co= lors.=20 There are some new keys for color-cycling, which are not yet document= ed,=20 nor are shown on the main screen of Xfractint. Here's a "copy-and-pas= te"=20 =66rom the developer's email: =A0 =A00 =A0 =A0 (return to default) =A0 =A0 =A0! =A0 =A0 (invert colors)=20 =A0 =A0 =A0< > =A0 (cycle by -1 or +1 step) =A0 =A0 =A0( ) =A0 (cycle by -6 or +6 steps) Have fun finding fancy fractals! Scott Boyd --=20 sdboyd56@swbell.net http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/ I always wanted to be a procrastinator,=20 but I never got around to it. -- Unknown Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ulrich =?iso-8859-1?q?Gr=FCn?= Subject: (fractint) Colour cycling Date: 12 Mar 2001 13:57:45 +0100 Am Donnerstag 15 März 2001 17:29, bereicherte Scott D. Boyd uns mit folgender Nachricht: > A new feature was introduced in version 20.1.07 - the ability to run > Xfractint while your Xserver is running in 16-bit color mode. (more than > 256 colors.) The fractal images, however, are still limited to 256 colors. > There are some new keys for color-cycling, which are not yet documented, > nor are shown on the main screen of Xfractint. Here's a "copy-and-paste" > from the developer's email: > >    0     (return to default) >      !     (invert colors) >      < >   (cycle by -1 or +1 step) >      ( )   (cycle by -6 or +6 steps) I can do something with the colours now, but no colour *cycling*. Unfortunately too, instead of cycling the whole fractal is being recalculated, which needs some time. (I hope, that this sycling will be fixed somedays?) Why isn't it possible to use more than 256 colours? Has that something to do with the use of GIFs? > Have fun finding fancy fractals! > Scott Boyd Thanks. 10 years ago we used fractint on the old DOS systems. It was the best, coolest and cheapest programme we had in those days. Groeten uit Utrecht, Ulrich -- _________________________________________________________ *Linux: the choice of a GNU generation* _________________________________________________________ Ulrich Grün mail: dzjembee@dds.nl, ulrich@mavnet.dynip.com icq: 35629246 System: AMD-K6 350, 192MB. OS: RedHat 7, Kernel: 2.4.2pre4 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Programmer Dude Subject: Re: (fractint) Colour cycling Date: 15 Mar 2001 11:25:10 -0600 Ulrich Gr=FCn wrote: > Why isn't it possible to use more than 256 colours? Has that something > to do with the use of GIFs? Probably. GIF color palettes can be 2-color (1-bit), 16-color (4-bits) or 256-color (8-bits). GIF is a pretty old image format, and seems to be on its way into the history books. --=20 |_ CJSonnack _____________| How's my programming? | |_ http://www.Sonnack.com/ ___________________| Call: 1-800-DEV-NULL | |_____________________________________________|_______________________| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott D. Boyd" Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 15-03-01 (The Atomic Midget [4]) Date: 15 Mar 2001 10:37:40 -0600 On Thursday 15 March 2001 08:01, JimMuth@aol.com wrote: > It's late and I'm still very busy setting up the new Fractal > Central. But despite the rush, I have found a fractal, which I > now present as the hurried FOTD for March 15. > Despite it being a hurried FOTD, I think it's fantastic - great colors! > There is no time for a discussion. One is not necessary, for > the fractal speaks for itself. (A talking fractal!) > Mine must be orally-challenged, as I have yet to hear it speak. 8-) > I don't have the URL's of Paul's and Scott's web sites handy. > http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html and http://home.swbell.net/sdboyd56/fotd/ Scott Boyd -- sdboyd56@swbell.net http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/ I always wanted to be a procrastinator, but I never got around to it. -- Unknown Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 16-03-01 (Mandelbrot Flower [5]) Date: 15 Mar 2001 23:57:44 EST Classic FOTD -- March 16, 2001 (Rating 5) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: The reconstruction of Fractal Central at its new location is progressing rapidly, but still has a way to go before things are back to normal. Until the FOTD routine is re-established, the FOTD discussions will be brief. The features surrounding the midget in today's image remind me of an opening flower. The name "Mandelbrot Flower" seemed perfectly natural. The formula ((-Z)^2)+(0.1(1/Z))+C drew the parent fractal, which resembles a reversed and very twisted M-set, partly filled in with the debris of 1/Z. After a brief period of indecision, I rated the image at an average 5. Since the 20 minute render time is a bit slow, I recommend downloading the complete GIF image from: or from: The fractal weather today was cloudy with rain in the evening and a temperature of 46F (8C), which was too cold for the delicate duo of fractal cats, who spent the day in their favorite chairs, dreaming of outdoors. And that's it for today's brief encounter with the wonder of fractals. Until tomorrow at this same time, take care, and I really believe that fractals are real. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Mandelbrot_Flower { ; time=0:20:28.20--SF5 on a p200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1 center-mag=+0.19045657767755550/+0.004482892438104\ 19/2.112526e+009/1/142.499 params=-1/2/0.1/-1/0/0 float=y maxiter=2400 inside=0 logmap=-360 periodicity=10 colors=0000NT2KQ7INBGLGEIKBHOAET7BY6Aa27f16k02o00t\ 00y00z00s1EkBYaLqVVzYYz``xccqdfkhidklZnoToqNstHvxB\ yz6zz0zzWzzczzUzz0fv0Tl0Ga02V04O06L07I07G09D0AA0B7\ 0B41D12E06G07G09H0BI0DI0EH0LH0RH0YGFcG1qGHxBNz7Qz2\ Lz46n64k76h97dAQaBAZDBWBDTBGQBINBKKBNIBQLBRNGVKIWI\ LYHOZGRaDVcBYdA`f9zc0caGd`IfZLhYOiVRkTVkRZlQanOdoL\ hqKksIntHqtGtqHvoIvnKxlKxkLxiNyhNydOycQzaRz`RzZTzY\ VzWVzYTzZRz`RzaQzcOzdOzfNzhNziLzkKzlKznIzoHzqHzsGz\ sGzlKzfNv`QoVViOYcI`YDdR7hL1kH7hGBdEHaDzZBzWAzTAzQ\ DzOGzLIzKLzKOzNRzQVzTYzW`zZczafzdazfZzhWziTzkQzlNz\ nKzoHvqEqsDktAft7at4Yt2Rt0Nt0It0Et09t04t00t00t00t0\ 0t00t00v00x00y00z00z00z01z04z16z49z7AzAGzGKzLQzQVz\ W`z`dzfkzlozqvzxzzzzzzzzzzzzyzsszhnzZhzOazGWz6Rz0T\ z1Tz6VzAVzEWzIWzNYzQYzVZzZZzc`zh`zl`zoYzkWzhTzdRz`\ QzYNzVLzQIzNHzKGzGDzDBzAAz7EzAHzDKzGNzHRzKVzNYzO`z\ RdzVhzWkzZnzaszcvzfyzizzk } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 17-03-01 (Mandelbrot Glory [5]) Date: 17 Mar 2001 00:56:49 EST Classic FOTD -- March 17, 2001 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: It's Saint Patrick's day and all is in confusion. I'm at the stage where the new Fractal Central is operating, but I have no idea where anything is. nevertheless, I found an average fractal, which appears almost by magic if the parameter file is run. I named the image "Mandelbrot Glory"< and rated it a 5. Searching for things such as certain computer disks in dozens of packed cartons leaves little time for discussing fractals, so I'll end my short discussion here. The GIF image will soon be available at: and at: The fractal weather today was cloudy with rain in the afternoon and a temperature of 48F (9C). Having been marooned indoors for two consecutive days, the fractal cats were testy most of the day. I'll return as scheduled in 20 hours with another brief FOTD. Until then, take care, and watch the time fly. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Mandelbrot_Glory { ; time=0:12:49.07 -- SF5 on p200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+23.153685954444/-41.66830373638096/2.4\ 33538e+007/1/-174.999 params=1.1/-11/11/-1.1/0/300 float=y maxiter=1800 inside=0 logmap=275 periodicity=10 colors=00000F00F00I00L00O00Q00U00X00_00b00e00h00k0\ 0n00r00u00x00z00z00z00z00z00z01z28z5Fz8MxAUsC`pIbi\ MbeQd`WdXbeSgeOmeJrgFzgAzh6zh2zh0zeAzbOz``zedxhgzk\ izpkzrnzurzxszzpzznzzmzzkzzizzhzzgzzezzdzzbzz`zz_z\ z`zzbzvdzsexpgvmhuiishipeknbmm_nkXphUrgQseOudMukOz\ sOzzOzm9rb0bW3gPAiIImCPp6Yu0ex0mz0uz5GM9CQC9WG5_J2\ dO0gQ0kW0pY0u`0xb0zd0zd0ze0ze0zg0zg0zh0zi0zi0zk1zk\ 2zm3zm5zn6zn8zp6vr5sr3ns2ks1gu1du0_v0Xx0Ux0Pz0Mz0I\ z0Fz0Az08z05r08h0AY5CP9FGFI6JJ0PM0UOFMAdF0z90sG0iO\ 2_W8Q`FGhM8pS0x_0ze0zk0zr0zxF2z9Dz5Oz1Yz0hz0sz0zz0\ zi0zn0zr0zv0zzzA3kOGW`SFnd0zpzXvLszU0C6Yb0Qp0gu0xz\ OirPhvQgzSezSezDYi1SM6UQCUUGUXMU`QUdXWgbWkgWnmWrrW\ urYvr`vrdvrgvrixrmxrpxrrxruzrxzrzzrzzrzzrzzrzzrzzn\ zvmzsizphzmgzhdzebzb`z_YzXXzSWzPSzMQzJPzGXzMbzShzY\ nzduzizznzzhzzdzz_xzWxzQxzMvzIvzDvz9uz5uz1uz0sz0sz\ 0sz0nz0kz0gz0dz0_z0Xz0Sz0 } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonathan Osuch" Subject: Re: (fractint) A parallel version of fractint Date: 17 Mar 2001 06:26:18 -0600 Jeff, The only question I can come close to answering is the second. > 2) Why is MSDOS defined as 1 in port.h? Should that not be in a conditional > somewhere? I believe this is because the MSDOS compilers had a problem with this. When XFRACT is defined, MSDOS gets undefined, so it doesn't matter. Legacy baggage is the real answer. Jonathan Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 18-03-01 (Mandelbrot Radiance [6]) Date: 18 Mar 2001 00:13:01 EST Classic FOTD -- March 17, 2001 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: I'm still getting the new fractal place organized, so today's discussion will be a brief one. Today's quick fractal takes advantage of the 'tdis' outside coloring option of Fractint. I named it "Mandelbrot Radiance" because of the golden radiance that seems to be coming from the midget. The 'tdis' option often produces an effect of terraces such as the effect seen in today's image. I rated the picture a 6, which is a little above average. With a draw time of 2-1/2 minutes on a Pentium 200mhz machine, running the parameter file is about as efficient a way of viewing the image as going to: or: and downloading the GIF file from there. The fractal weather today was cloudy and chilly, with a temperature of 48F (9C) and a shower in the afternoon, which combined to keep the cats housebound. That's it for today. Until next time, take care, and relax. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ MandelbrotRadiance { ; time=0:02:21.38--SF5 on a p200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+0.16255944330517/+0.6674089329825/5.25\ 9003e+011/1/-162.498/-0.001 params=2/2/-0.5/-2/0/0 float=y maxiter=600 inside=0 outside=tdis periodicity=10 colors=000zw0zw0zu0zd5zQKzA_x1os1zk1zf1x_1vU8qPFnJ\ Llzw0zF7z1iy1vn1zi1tf6edJT_ZFYl2Uq7SuBRwHPwKNwOLwV\ JwYHwaquQzaHzZBzX5zV0wT0zU0WFUPKU00000000000000000\ 0WQ0gb0sn0zw0zw2zwDouMbkXPagCSqAJzW80ANOAHIDCFP6B_\ 17i13g1Og6ifCzfHzYdzSwzNwz_w0ow0zw0zw0zw0zw7zwezwz\ zsnzZOzC7z10z10SwzUwlWw9Yw0bw0dk0fX0gJ0fH0dH5bHH_F\ VYFeWFqWFzRExLCqFAlA8gzw2zs9zlHzdMzZVzSazLgzJezJdz\ HazHazF_zFYxEXvEXqFKnF9iF0YHFPHVDJgAJxAJzAHvPHgbFT\ qFFzE0zE0zE0zH0zJ0sL0gN0UQ0HS0AU0AN7AHHACQA8_A2lA1\ vA1zA1zA1zA4qCCeLJVWSIfZ7qf0zn0sNDn1dvATzJIzV9zd0z\ q0zw0z10z10zC7yNIsZVoiezwMzwXzsdylnqwvowaowKow3ow0\ ow0dw0Sw0HwDAwQAwdiwekwdkwdkwdkwdkwdkwdkwdkwdkwanw\ anwanwanwazwMnwanwanwanw_nw_ow_ow_ow_ow_ow_ow_owYo\ wYqwYqwYqwYqwYqwYqwXqwXqwXqwXswXswXswXswXswVswVswV\ swVswVvwVvwVvwVvwTvwTvwTvwTvwTxwTxwTxwTxwQxwQxwQxw\ QxwQxwQywQywQywOywOywOkw3 } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dunaway" Subject: (fractint) Newbie Question Date: 18 Mar 2001 15:43:17 -0900 ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C0AFC2.26F6D240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I would like to know how to cut and paste the formulaes into Winfractal. = I don't know much about DOS so I downloaded the windows version. I don't = know how to paste the formulaes so I can view the images. Anybody know? Thanks. :-) from beautiful Anchorage, Alaska where its 30 degrees and sunny.
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------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C0AFC2.26F6D240-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marcus Adriana (MLS)" Subject: Re: (fractint) Newbie Question Date: 18 Mar 2001 22:02:04 -0300 --------------CEAF14ABFBE5E26717B68FE3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1. as soon as you read your email, do something like: use "file"; "save as", "file" and save it as ".par" or ".frm" , depending if whatever it is 2. save it in the Winfract or the Fractint directory. 3. have fun Marcus Matthew Dunaway wrote: > Hi all,I would like to know how to cut and paste the formulaes into > Winfractal. I don't know much about DOS so I downloaded the windows > version. I don't know how to paste the formulaes so I can view the > images.Anybody know?Thanks. :-) from beautiful Anchorage, Alaska where > its 30 degrees and sunny. > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------CEAF14ABFBE5E26717B68FE3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1. as soon as you read your email, do something like:
use "file"; "save as", "file" and save it as ".par" or ".frm" , depending if whatever it is
2. save it in the Winfract or the Fractint directory.
3. have fun
Marcus

Matthew Dunaway wrote:

Hi all,I would like to know how to cut and paste the formulaes into Winfractal. I don't know much about DOS so I downloaded the windows version. I don't know how to paste the formulaes so I can view the images.Anybody know?Thanks. :-) from beautiful Anchorage, Alaska where its 30 degrees and sunny.
  

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1. as soon as you read your email= , do something like:
use "file"; "save as", "file" and save it as ".p= ar" or ".frm" , depending if whatever it is
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3. have fun
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------=_NextPart_001_0005_01C0AFE8.03851260-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 19-03-01 (Outreach [6]) Date: 19 Mar 2001 01:16:20 EST Classic FOTD -- March 19, 2001 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: It was another busy day here at the new Fractal Central, but progress is being made, and by the end of the month I expect things to be back to normal, with longer fractal descriptions and the return of fractal philosophy. But until then, the FOTD will continue in abbreviated form. Today's image pictures a midget surrounded by broad spiral bands filled with a texture that, when viewed from a distance, gives the impression of a true color fractal. The texture in the image is created by the many tiny patches caused by the negative exponents. I named the image "Outreach" for no particular reason, and rated it a 6 for the same reason. With a render time of 45 minutes, the parameter file is slow. A better way of viewing the image is to give Paul and Scott a chance to post the GIF file of the image to their web sites at: and and download it from there. The fractal weather today was sunny but blustery and chilly, with a temperature of 50F (10C), which the fractal cats accepted as they passed the afternoon in the yard. I see that the time has come to shut down the shoppe and call it a night. Until tomorrow, take care. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Outreach { ; time=0:45:02.18--SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+5.420030539950791/-5.682915557092597/1.1\ 03386e+009/1/32.5 params=100/-0.1/0.1/-10/-0.996/300 float=y maxiter=6000 inside=0 logmap=-837 periodicity=10 colors=00000I00I50J80K90L80M70N50O40P30Q21R02S03T06U\ 07V08W09X0BY0CZ3D_5E`8GaBHbEIcHKdKLeNMfQMgTMhVMiXLkX\ KlYKmYKn_Jo_JpaGqaFrc6sc3td2ud1vi7wmDxqKyvQzzYzzewzg\ tziqwkntmkqohnqeksbhu_ewXbwV_wSXzPUzMRzJOvGLrPIo_Fm_\ Cj_9gQ6cH3`83Y04U35R47Q58N79K8BI9CGBEECFCEH9FI8HK6IK\ 5KH8PFCTEGYCKa9Of8Tk7Yq5`t7cv7ex8gx8hz9jz9lzBmzBqzCr\ zCtzEvzExzFzzFzzFzxFxmFvcFtTFrKFqBFo3Fm0Lq0St0Xv0cz0\ iz0oz0vz2zz3zz3zz2vz2qz2kz2fz2az2Xz2Qz0Lz0Hz0Cx08v04\ t00r00r00m30h50c70Z90UB0QE0LF0HI0DK09N07P08T09Y2Bc8C\ fFDkNEqVGvcHzYLsVQkQTdNYYIaSFeLCjF8o95r42x00z00z00z0\ 0z00x00v00r30q50o80lB0jE0gH0eK0aN0`Q0ZT0eX0jY0o_0ta0\ zc0zd0zf0zh0zi0zd7zaIzXVzThtPvoLzlIzhFzgEzhCzk9zn8xq\ 7vt5sw3qz2oz0mz0kz0iz0hz0fz0cz0_z0Xz0Tz0Qz0Nz0Kz0Iz0\ Fz0Cz09z07z04z02z00z00z00z03z05z08z4Bz89zH8zQ8z_9zXB\ zVCzTCzSEzPFzNHzLHzKXzfkzzfzvazqXzkSzfNzaIzXFzS } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dunaway" Subject: Re: (fractint) Newbie Question Date: 18 Mar 2001 21:38:25 -0900 ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C0AFF3.C39046A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How do I get rid of the .eml extension? ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 4:04 PM 1. as soon as you read your email, do something like: =20 use "file"; "save as", "file" and save it as ".par" or ".frm" , depending= if whatever it is =20 2. save it in the Winfract or the Fractint directory. =20 3. have fun =20 Marcus =20 Matthew Dunaway wrote: =20 Hi all,I would like to know how to cut and paste the formulaes into Winfr= actal. I don't know much about DOS so I downloaded the windows version. I= don't know how to paste the formulaes so I can view the images.Anybody k= now?Thanks. :-) from beautiful Anchorage, Alaska where its 30 degrees and= sunny. =20 =20 Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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1. as soon as you read your = email, do something like:
use "file"; "save as", "file" and save it a= s ".par" or ".frm" , depending if whatever it is
2. save it in the Wi= nfract or the Fractint directory.
3. have fun
Marcus

Matthew = Dunaway wrote:

Hi all,I would like to know how= to cut and paste the formulaes into Winfractal. I don't know much about = DOS so I downloaded the windows version. I don't know how to paste the fo= rmulaes so I can view the images.Anybody know?Thanks. :-) from beaut= iful Anchorage, Alaska where its 30 degrees and sunny.
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------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C0AFF3.C39046A0-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rupert Millard" Subject: (fractint) A .MAP file creation utility Date: 19 Mar 2001 11:31:34 -0000 Hi, I made a little Ultra-Fractal gradient / Fractint MAP file utility in Visual Basic this weekend. It depends on the type of person you are, but I think it's useful because I hate choosing colours but am fed up with using blues.map, nice as it is. Visit: http://www.geocities.com/poly_grad_maker/ to find out more and download it if you like. I hope you like it, From, Rupert _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Coppin" Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 16-03-01 (Mandelbrot Flower [5]) Date: 19 Mar 2001 15:37:02 -0000 >From: JimMuth@aol.com >Reply-To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >CC: philofractal@lists.fractalus.com >Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 16-03-01 (Mandelbrot Flower [5]) >Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:57:44 EST > > >Classic FOTD -- March 16, 2001 (Rating 5) Very nice colouring, Jim. Keep it up! (esp. because it's my birthday later this month!) Thanks. Andrew. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RENRAD1@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Newbie Question Date: 19 Mar 2001 17:44:32 EST In a message dated 01-03-19 01:42:23 EST, you write: << Hi all,I would like to know how to cut and paste the formulaes into Winfractal. >> Hi! You need to have them end up as text files with the .frm or .par extensions. For the formula, drag and select the formula part and drop it into a straight text editor, such and notepad. Save the file with some name that helps you keep track ot them, like mar2001.frm. Your next added formula will be pasted into this file as you build a collection. Add this new .frm to the location in which the Winfract has its other .frm files. The same process for the parameter file, with the exception of choosing a collection name for the pars contained in it and the need to save the text file with a .par extension. Add your new .par to the location wherein lie your Winfract-supplied .par files. Note that Winfract is not capable of some of the things that Fractint DOS version is. There is a lot of helpful material about getting started in the DOS version at various sites on the web and the list can help you. You also might wish to post requests on the Fractal-art list as well as it is more active currently than the Fractint list. I hope this helps you to get up and running...this stuff is amazing :) Good luck! ~renrad Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dunaway" Subject: Re: (fractint) Newbie Question Date: 19 Mar 2001 14:02:53 -0900 ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C0B07D.4AA064C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you Renard. I will do what you suggested. I agree that these fracta= ls are amazing. I first discovered them by looking for a screesaver. Then= I found this list and another one called Fractal World on yahoo. I have = downloaded several fractal programs including Fractal Explorer and Ultra-= Fractal. I haven't quite figured them out yet, but I will (hopefully) as = time goes on. Again, thanks for your help. :-) Matt in Anchorage, Alaska. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 1:46 PM In a message dated 01-03-19 01:42:23 EST, you write: << Hi all,I would like to know how to cut and paste the formulaes into Winfractal. >> Hi! You need to have them end up as text files with the .frm or .par extensions. For the formula, drag and select the formula part and drop it into a straight text editor, such and notepad. Save the file with some name tha= t helps you keep track ot them, like mar2001.frm. Your next added formula = will be pasted into this file as you build a collection. Add this new .frm t= o the location in which the Winfract has its other .frm files. The same process for the parameter file, with the exception of choosing= a collection name for the pars contained in it and the need to save the tex= t file with a .par extension. Add your new .par to the location wherein l= ie your Winfract-supplied .par files. Note that Winfract is not capable of some of the things that Fractint DOS version is. There is a lot of helpful material about getting started in = the DOS version at various sites on the web and the list can help you. You a= lso might wish to post requests on the Fractal-art list as well as it is more active currently than the Fractint list. I hope this helps you to get up and running...this stuff is amazing :) Good luck! ~renrad Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint"
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Thank you Rena= rd. I will do what you suggested. I agree that these fractals are amazing= . I first discovered them by looking for a screesaver. Then I found this = list and another one called Fractal World on yahoo. I have downloaded sev= eral fractal programs including Fractal Explorer and Ultra-Fractal. I hav= en't quite figured them out yet, but I will (hopefully) as time goes on. = Again, thanks for your help. :-)
 
Matt in Anc= horage, Alaska.

----- Original = Message -----
From: RENRAD1@aol.com
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 1:46 PM
=
To: fractint@lists.xmission.c= om
Subject: Re: (fracti= nt) Newbie Question

In a message dated 01-03-19 01:4= 2:23 EST, you write:

<< Hi all,I would like to know how to c= ut and paste the formulaes into
Winfractal. >>

Hi! You ne= ed to have them end up as text files with the   .frm  or .= par
extensions.
For the formula, drag and select the formula part a= nd drop it into a
straight text editor, such and notepad.  Save t= he file with some name that
helps you keep track ot them, like mar2001= .frm.  Your next added formula will
be pasted into this file as y= ou build a collection.  Add this new  .frm to
the location i= n which the Winfract has its other .frm files.

The same process fo= r the  parameter file,  with the exception of choosing a
col= lection name for the pars contained in it and the need to save the textfile with a .par extension. Add your new   .par to the locati= on wherein lie
your Winfract-supplied  .par files.

Note th= at Winfract is not capable of some of the things that Fractint DOS
ver= sion is.  There is a lot of helpful material about getting started i= n the
DOS version at various sites on the web and the list can help yo= u.  You also
might wish to post requests on the Fractal-art list = as well as it is more
active currently than the Fractint list.

= I hope this helps you to get up and running...this stuff is amazing = :)

Good luck!
~renrad

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I tried visiti= ng the page and got a 404 error. Anybody else get this or is it just MSN = Explorer?

----- Original Messag= e -----
From: Rupert Millard
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 2:34 AM
To: fractint@lists.xmission.com
Subject: (fractint) A .MAP = file creation utility

Hi,

I made a little Ult= ra-Fractal gradient / Fractint MAP file utility in Visual
Basic this w= eekend.

It depends on the type of person you are, but I think it's= useful because I
hate choosing colours but am fed up with using blues= .map, nice as it is.

Visit: http://www.geocities.com/poly_grad_mak= er/ to find out more and
download it if you like.

I hope you li= ke it,

From,

Rupert
____________________________________= _____________________________________
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no problem getting there myself, about 1747 PST Monday (0147 GMT Tuesday)

  Matthew Dunaway <Matthew_D1@hotmail.com> wrote:

I tried visiting the page and got a 404 error. Anybody else get this or is it just MSN Explorer?

----- Original Message -----

From: Rupert Millard

Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 2:34 AM

To: fractint@lists.xmission.com

Subject: (fractint) A .MAP file creation utility


Hi,

I made a little Ultra-Fractal gradient / Fractint MAP file utility in Visual
Basic this weekend.

It depends on the type of person you are, but I think it's useful because I
hate choosing colours but am fed up with using blues.map, nice as it is.

Visit: http://www.geocities.com/poly_grad_maker/ to find out more and
download it if you like.

I hope you like it,

From,

Rupert
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Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. --0-1192587543-985052872=:34628-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dunaway" Subject: Re: (fractint) A .MAP file creation utility Date: 19 Mar 2001 16:51:13 -0900 ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C0B094.CE7B2840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I did get there eventually. It must have been busy when I tried the first= time. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 4:49 PM no problem getting there myself, about 1747 PST Monday (0147 GMT Tuesday) Matthew Dunaway wrote: =20 I tried visiting the page and got a 404 error. Anybody else get this or i= s it just MSN Explorer? ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 2:34 AM Hi, I made a little Ultra-Fractal gradient / Fractint MAP file utility in Vis= ual Basic this weekend. It depends on the type of person you are, but I think it's useful because= I hate choosing colours but am fed up with using blues.map, nice as it is. Visit: http://www.geocities.com/poly_grad_maker/ to find out more and download it if you like. I hope you like it, From, Rupert _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! M= ail.
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I did get ther= e eventually. It must have been busy when I tried the first time.

----- Original Message -----
F= rom: caren
Sent:&nb= sp;Monday, March 19, 2001 4:49 PM
<= B>To: fractint@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: (fractint) A .MAP file creation utility<= /DIV>

no problem getting there myself, about 1747 PST = Monday (0147 GMT Tuesday)

  Matthew Dunaway <Matthew= _D1@hotmail.com> wrote:

I tried vi= siting the page and got a 404 error. Anybody else get this or is it just = MSN Explorer?

----- Original Me= ssage -----

From: Rupert Millard

Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 2:34 AM
To: fractint@lists.x= mission.com

Subject:&nbs= p;(fractint) A .MAP file creation utility


Hi,
I made a little Ultra-Fractal gradient / Fractint MAP file utility i= n Visual
Basic this weekend.

It depends on the type of person y= ou are, but I think it's useful because I
hate choosing colours but am= fed up with using blues.map, nice as it is.

Visit: http://www.geo= cities.com/poly_grad_maker/ to find out more and
download it if you li= ke.

I hope you like it,

From,

Rupert
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------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C0B094.CE7B2840-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 20-03-01 (Double Fractal Eight [7]) Date: 19 Mar 2001 22:57:38 EST Classic FOTD -- March 20, 2001 (Rating 7) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Today's quickie fractal took 5 minutes to find and just about as long to render at the SF5 resolution. The image illustrates a midget that exists in a cut-off branch of the fractal created by subtracting some Z^(-sqrt(2)) from some Z^2 and adding 1/C. To add a bit of zip to the scene I rendered the formula with the 'tdis' outside coloring option in effect. The resulting terraces are quite effective! But it's a mystery why I named the picture "Double Fractal Eight". The image may be seen by copying this e-mail to your Fractint directory as an ascii text file with a .par extension and running the file in the normal manner. Or you can wait an hour or so until Paul and Scott have had a chance to render the image and post it to their web sites at: and: The fractal weather today was ideal for housebound cats. The sunny skies, light winds and temperature of 54F (12C) brought out the best in the dynamic duo, who spent several hours outdoors on their best behavior while I was away trying to bring some order to the new fractal central. And now I'm going to bring some order to my evening by settling down to watch a junky sci-fi movie or better yet, an even junkier Benny Hill tape. Until tomorrow around this same time, take care, and keep your mind out of the gutter. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ DoubleFractalEight { ; time=0:04:36.60--SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=-0.74273903073474470/+0.259972024127996\ 20/6.413898e+011/1.0283/151.304/2.356 params=-1/-1\ .414213562373/0.2/2/-3.333/0 float=y maxiter=512 inside=0 outside=tdis logmap=yes periodicity=10 colors=000nv0sv0wv0zv4zvAzvIzvPfvpCvzAvzAvxAvmAvdA\ vVzv0zg0q`0WE0C00A02A01P01d01w01z01z00n00`00P00E00\ A00A00A05A0GA0TA0eA0tA0pA0kA4gAEdANbIcTfvKzvDol0`P\ 0zc6zrTzcTzRTPpiAvzAvmAvbAvRAvGAv6Av0Av0Av0Av2AvPG\ vpLvvPvzUvzYvzbvzftzjrzA1PAIBAZ0Ar0Av0Av0Av0At5AnG\ AiRCcdE`pIRrLKtGVkYIefGgnGgwEizEizCkzCkz7dz4Zz0Tz0\ Mz0Gw0Bw0Xw0tw0zs0zq0xn0pl0gh0`f0Td0MN06AE0AZ0AV0L\ T0`R0oP0za4zpPzvmzvzzvisrIde0QX0L`0GaAKcINePQgZUie\ Ylp`nxbnzWlzQizKgvFetzaDwvOsvXhvKZv8Pn0Ge0AZ0AT0AN\ 2AKFP06Q0AS0DU0FW0IY0KZ0OZ0PN0Kj1dzLxnZzWlzGvzNrzU\ iz`czhXzoRzhCz`1zU0zP0zZ0ejCOsX8zr0zv0ov0Uv0Av0Av0\ Av4At8AnDFeIL`OE1RA0VL0`Z0eo0kz0pz0ez0XzBOwNFwZ6sc\ 8oi8npAjvAhvBdvBbvBfvKhvRjvZlvenvmovvqvzsvzwatzEbz\ 0Os6FlI6dX1Yi0Qv0Kv0Sv0Zl1f`BoNOwB`z1kzLxzezzvzotz\ blzSczGXvAPrAIkACgER8dc0Wg0Ni0Fl6ArIAvTAvdAvpAvgAv\ `AvTAvMAvFAv8Av2Av0GvKhv0 } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Curnow" Subject: Re: (fractint) A .MAP file creation utility Date: 20 Mar 2001 18:37:47 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C0B16C.DC5DE820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm really interested in that .MAP utility. My problem is that my ISP = and telephone line are so dreadful, I can't retain the telephone connection=20 long enough to use the Internet! Could I ask Rupert Millard to email me direct on curnow@mail.telepac.pt = ? Thanks=20 Chris Curnow (Half way up a mountain in Portugal) Rupert Millard said: "I made a little Ultra-Fractal gradient / Fractint MAP file utility in = Visual=20 Basic this weekend." ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C0B16C.DC5DE820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm really interested in that = .MAP=20 utility.  My problem is that my ISP and
telephone line are = so dreadful, I can't retain the = telephone connection=20
long enough to use the = Internet!
 
Could I ask Rupert Millard to = email me=20 direct on curnow@mail.telepac.pt=20 ?
 
Thanks
Chris Curnow  (Half way = up a=20 mountain in Portugal)
 
Rupert Millard said:
"I made a little Ultra-Fractal gradient / Fractint MAP file utility = in=20 Visual
Basic this weekend."

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Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 21-03-01 (A Study in Lilac [6]) Date: 21 Mar 2001 08:07:50 EST Classic FOTD -- March 21, 2001 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Today's FOTD is late, but it is here. With the hectic rush continuing, I once again found little time for fractal exploration. But I did find one neat little midget in the fractal created by adding a little 1/Z and 1/C to Z^2. I named the image "A Study in Lilac". The name was inspired by the lovely lilac features surrounded by a less-than-lovely olive-green background. The 5-1/2 minutes draw time of the parameter file is just slow enough to make a download of the GIF file the better choice. The download may be found on the Web at: and at: The fractal weather today was hazy and mild, with a temperature of 55F (13C) that was warm enough to lure the fractal cats into the yard, where they passed the afternoon watching and chattering at the birds. And we've once again come to the end of the shortened FOTD. But I'll be here once again in 16 hours or so to do it again. Until then, take care, and look for great things to come. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ A_Study_in_Lilac { ; time=0:05:39.77--SF5 on a p200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+1.738877818822119/+1.111654875236485/9\ .192928e+007/1/15 params=1.5/2/-0.3/-1/-0.25/0 float=y maxiter=1200 inside=0 logmap=102 periodicity=10 colors=000afAbfAaeA`dA_cAZbAYaAX`AWZAVXAUVATTASRAR\ PAQOAPNAOMANKAMJALIAKIAJIAIIAcTzfYzkbznezsizxnzzzz\ zzzzpzzizv`zqRukGpe0i`0eh4npKxx_zznzzkzzhzzezzbvz_\ qzYkzVfzSbzPYzMTzKPzSVz_`xffqnmkvsezy_zzTzzQkzNHsK\ 0kx0Sx0Qx0Qp0Qh0Qc0Q_0QV0QQ0QM0QH0QC0Q80Q30P04P0EN\ 0EN0EM0EM0EM0ET0ET0ET0ET4ET9ETEHTJNTNSPSXKX`H_YCbX\ 8eV3hT0kQ0nP0qN0sM0qN0qP0pQ0pS0nT0nT0mV0mX0kY0k_0i\ _0i`1hb3hc4fe6fe8NCESECVEB_G9bG8fG6iH4nH3qH3zGHzEV\ yGXnHXcJXTKXHMY6NY0PY0PYCbBbp0bq0cs0es0eu0fv0fv0hx\ 0iy0iy0kz0kz0fu0bp0_k0Yh0Vf0Q`0Nb0Je0Gh0Bk06n03q60\ uE0xM0xT0y`9zh8yf8xe8ve6uc6sb6qb6q`4p_4n_4mY3kX3iX\ 3hV3hT1fT1fS1hQ0iQ0kP0mN0nN0pM0qK0sK0uJ0vH0xH0yG0z\ E0zE0zC0zC0zB0z90z90z80z60z60z40z30z30z10z00z00z00\ z00z00z00z00z00z00z00z00z00z00z00z00z00z00z0Ez0Ez0\ Ez0Ez0EzVEzTEzQTzNQzKNzJKzGHzCEz9Bz68z44z11z00z00z\ 00z00z00z0EzCEzBEzBEzBEz9 } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Curnow" Subject: Re :Re: (fractint) A .MAP file creation utility Date: 21 Mar 2001 21:28:48 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0B24D.EA8FEA60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From RENRAD1@aol.com 20 March 17:19 > <> > > I had a few minutes so zipped the text on the page with the utility Mr = > Millard has presented and here 'tis. > Good luck! =BB Thanks for the zip file. Can't run it though, usual VB problem of a = missing comdlg32.ocx! I'll contact Rupert direct.... From Tim Wegner. 20 March 20:36 > If it would help, I'd be happy to post fractint-related files at=20 > fractint.org. > Tim I'm all for that Tim. Doesn't get round the fragile line and abysmal = ISP here though! I've got a couple of programs for you but I'll need to think about the = .ocx and .dll files they need. Come back to you later. Thanks to both for your fast response, (wish I could get *that* from = Telepac!) Chris ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0B24D.EA8FEA60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From RENRAD1@aol.com  20 March=20 17:19
 
>=20 <<Could I ask Rupert Millard to email me direct on curnow@mail.telepac.pt?>>
>
> I had=20 a few minutes so zipped the text on the page with the utility Mr =
>=20 Millard has presented and here 'tis.
> Good luck! = =BB
 
Thanks for the zip file.  Can't run it though, usual VB = problem of a=20 missing comdlg32.ocx!
I'll contact Rupert direct....
 
From Tim Wegner.  20 = March=20 20:36
 
> If it would help, I'd be happy to post fractint-related files = at=20
> fractint.org.

> Tim
 
I'm all for that Tim.  Doesn't get round the fragile line and = abysmal=20 ISP here though!
I've got a couple of programs for you but I'll need = to think=20 about the .ocx and .dll files
they need.  Come back to you later.
 
Thanks to both for your fast response, (wish I could get *that* = from=20 Telepac!)
Chris
 ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0B24D.EA8FEA60-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) L-FOTD 22-03-01 Tongues of Fire [6]) Date: 22 Mar 2001 08:23:46 EST Late FOTD -- March 22, 2001 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Another rushed day, this one complicated by heavy rain, and as a result the FOTD is once again late. But as I have been saying almost every day recently, better late than never. As a glance at the 'Z' screen shows, the formula behind today's image was found by turning off my brain and letting my fingers roam the keyboard numbers at random. I named the resulting picture "Tongues of Fire" not from religious devotion, but because while studying the image, trying to think of a name, I had a brief impression of eight flames surrounding the midget. I tweaked the colors a bit since then, so the effect is now much less prominent. The parameter file runs in under eight minutes on a Pentium200 machine, and considerably faster on a state-of-the-art machine. Of course this is slow enough to make a download of the GIF image file from: or from: worth the effort. The fractal weather today was cloudy and cold, with heavy rain and high winds all day. Not only were the fractal cats quite testy, but the fractal basement took on 3 cm (that's 1-1/5 inches) of water during the afternoon. The outdoors received over 8 cm (3 inches) of rain during the day, while the temperature hovered around 40F (4.5C). Well, it's now 8:15am and time to start another hectic day. The next FOTD will appear in 15 hours. Until next time, take care, and be patient. The good old FOTD, with controversial philosophy, will return next month. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Tongues_of_Fire { ; time=0:07:47.42--SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=-0.18327714657609640/+0.768649481103325\ 10/1267948/1/22.499 params=1/-1.15/-1/1.15/-0.15/0 float=y maxiter=1500 inside=0 logmap=131 periodicity=10 colors=0001Ln6Jk9IgEGdIEaLDYOBXQ9XR8XT8XV6XX4XY4X`\ 2_f1Vj0Ki0Mi0Jj0Lk0Gl0Gn0Gq0Es0Et0Ew0Hx0Kz0Mz0Oz0Q\ z0Pz0Oz0Lz0Jz2Iz8EzBDzEBzI8zL6zO4zT1zY0za0ze0zj0zm\ 0zi0zf8zbEz_NzYVxVatTipRqlOxiNzfLzbJzaJzYJzXJzTJzR\ JwQJtNJqLJpIIlGIkDIgBIf9Ib6Ia4IY1IX0IT0IR6XIEk8Nz0\ Vz0Yz0_z0bz2dz6fzBizGkzLnzOpzTqzYtzbwzfzzkzzpzzszz\ tztwznxzixzbzxXzxRzxLzwEzw8zw2zt0zt0zt0zs0zq0sq1kp\ 6bnBVnGNlLEkQ6kV0nR1pO4qL6tI9wEDxBEz8Iz4Lz2Nz1Qw1R\ s0Tp0Vl0Xi0Yf0_b0a_0bX0dT0fO0gL0iI0kE0lB0n80p40q10\ s00t00w00x00z01z08z0Gz0Oz0Vz0bz0kz0qz0zz0zz0zzBzlB\ sY9sJ9s48saBsYGqTJqQNpNRpIVnE_n9bl6gl1kk0pk0si0wi0\ ql0nn0kp0gs2dt6aw9YxDTzIQzLNzOJzRGzXDz_9zb6zf9zgDz\ iGziJzkNzlQzlTznXzp_zpbzqfzsizslztpztqzkszaszRtzJt\ z9wz0wz0xz0xz1xz4zz9zzDzzIzzLzzQzzTzzYzzazzfzzizzn\ zzqzzwzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzwzzqzzlzzgzzbzzYzzTzzOzzQz\ zRzxTztVzqXznYzk_zfazbbz_ } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Coppin" Subject: Re: (fractint) L-FOTD 22-03-01 Tongues of Fire [6]) Date: 22 Mar 2001 15:45:39 -0000 >From: JimMuth@aol.com >Reply-To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >CC: philofractal@lists.fractalus.com >Subject: (fractint) L-FOTD 22-03-01 Tongues of Fire [6]) >Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:23:46 EST > > >Late FOTD -- March 22, 2001 (Rating 6) Hmmm. I particularly like the colours of this one. Nice work Jim! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: (fractint) Earthquake As Artist Date: 22 Mar 2001 22:39:42 -0600 Greetings, A link to an interesting form of "artwork" was recently sent to me by Elenyte. It definitely appears to be fractal in Nature. ;-} http://www.gaelwolf.com/pendulum.html Hope you find it as interesting as I did. Sincerely, P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Coppin" Subject: Re: (fractint) Earthquake As Artist Date: 23 Mar 2001 10:59:02 -0000 >From: "Paul N. Lee" >Reply-To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >To: fractal-art@lists.fractalus.com, fractal-world@yahoogroups.com, >ultrafractal@lists.fractalus.com, fractint@lists.xmission.com >Subject: (fractint) Earthquake As Artist >Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:39:42 -0600 > >Greetings, > >A link to an interesting form of "artwork" was recently sent to me by >Elenyte. It definitely appears to be fractal in Nature. ;-} > > http://www.gaelwolf.com/pendulum.html > >Hope you find it as interesting as I did. > >Sincerely, >P.N.L. The word cooOOooOol springs to mind... Truely magical stuff! Thanks. Andrew. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thierry B." Subject: Re: (fractint) Earthquake As Artist Date: 23 Mar 2001 11:36:46 +0000 "Paul N. Lee" wrote: > > Greetings, > > A link to an interesting form of "artwork" was recently sent to me by > Elenyte. It definitely appears to be fractal in Nature. ;-} > > http://www.gaelwolf.com/pendulum.html > > Hope you find it as interesting as I did. > http://www.freezone.co.uk/rgirvan/udo.htm Hoax or reality ? -- Thierry Boudet http://la.buvette.org/ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) L-FOTD 23-03-01 (The Busiest Midget [5]) Date: 23 Mar 2001 08:29:44 EST Late FOTD -- March 23, 2001 (Rating 5) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: All right, I realize that the FOTD failed to appear when promised. I won't promise it at a particular time again until the current confusion has ended. Today's super-quick fractal once again takes advantage of the 'tdis' outside coloring option, producing one of the busiest effects I have yet posted. I named the picture "The Busiest Midget" because this is the first name that came to mind. Though the parameter file is fast, the GIF file can be found at the following two sites: The fractal weather was cold and blustery, with a temperature of 46F (8C). These conditions confined the fractal cats once again to the indoors, where they sulked for my benefit. I'll return in an indefinite number of hours with the next in the unending series of FOTD's. Until then, take care. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ The_Busiest_Midget { ; time=0:04:36.82--SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+0.20557450556646010/+0.151897183583007\ 80/95052.51/1/75 params=1/-1.15/-1/1.15/-0.15/800 float=y maxiter=800 inside=0 outside=tdis periodicity=10 colors=000DmwcwAdxBfxBgyChyCjyDkzDlzEmzEnyDnxDnxDn\ wDnvDnvDouCotCotCosCorCorCoqCppBppBpoBpoBpnBpmBpmB\ qlAqkAqkAqjAqiAqiAqhArg9rg9rf9re9re9rd9rd9oeBleDjf\ FgfHdfJbgL_gNYgPVhRShTQiVNiXKiZIj`FjbDjdFheGgeHffI\ efJdgKcgLbgMahN`hOZiPYiQXjRWjSVjTUkUTkVSlWRlgWzXQl\ NLZDFL1973A84A96AA7AA8ABABCBBCDBDEBEFBFHCFICGKCHLC\ HMCIODJPDKRDKSDLTDMVEMWENXEOZEO_EPaFQbFRcFReFSfFTh\ GTiGUjGVlGWmGWoHXpHYqHYsHZtH_uH_sKXrMVqPSoRQnUNmWL\ kWIlYJlZJm_Km`KmaKnbLncLndLofMogMohMpiNpjNqkOqlOqm\ OroPrpPrqPsrQssQstQtuRtvRtwRrwSpwSnwSlwSjwShwSfwSd\ wSbwS`wSZwSYwSWwTUwTSwTQwTOwTMwTKwTIwTGwTEwTCwTBwT\ AtU9qV9nW8kX8hY7eZ7b_6_`6Xa5Ub5Rc4Od4Le3If3Fg2Ch29\ i16j22n13k14i14g15e16c16a17_18Y18W19U1AS0AP0BN0CL0\ CJ0DH0EF0ED0FB0G90G70H50H31I42J42K53L53M64N64O65P7\ 5Q76R86S87T87U98V98WA9XA9YAAZBA_BB`CBaCCbCDcDDdDEe\ EEfEFgFFhFGiFGjGHkGHlHImH } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rupert Millard" Subject: Re: (fractint) Earthquake As Artist Date: 23 Mar 2001 13:57:49 -0000 Hi, Even with monastic devotion I do not believe that he could have calculated that image. Therefore I think that it must be a hoax. How would he have known that iterating that formula would produce something worth doing. If he did it at all, I think that he must have had help - perhaps he had pointers from superior beings. From, Rupert >From: "Thierry B." >Reply-To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >CC: fractal-art@lists.fractalus.com, ultrafractal@lists.fractalus.com >Subject: Re: (fractint) Earthquake As Artist >Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:36:46 +0000 > >"Paul N. Lee" wrote: > > > > Greetings, > > > > A link to an interesting form of "artwork" was recently sent to me by > > Elenyte. It definitely appears to be fractal in Nature. ;-} > > > > http://www.gaelwolf.com/pendulum.html > > > > Hope you find it as interesting as I did. > > > >http://www.freezone.co.uk/rgirvan/udo.htm Hoax or reality ? > > >-- >Thierry Boudet http://la.buvette.org/ > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@fractint.org >Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thierry B." Subject: Re: (fractint) Earthquake As Artist Date: 23 Mar 2001 15:56:52 +0000 Rupert Millard wrote: > > Hi, > > Even with monastic devotion I do not believe that he could have calculated > that image. Therefore I think that it must be a hoax. > yes, it's a hoax, but a very nice... http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory&sid=2001/3/20/181321/246 > > > >http://www.freezone.co.uk/rgirvan/udo.htm Hoax or reality ? > > -- Thierry Boudet http://la.buvette.org/ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Abhishek=20Roy?= Subject: Re: (fractint) Earthquake As Artist Date: 23 Mar 2001 13:10:02 -0800 (PST) > http://www.freezone.co.uk/rgirvan/udo.htm Hoax or reality ? Hoax. Featured on both slashdot and kuro5hin. Apart from the date of the article, notice the name of the monk's helper. Very beautifully done though. > Thierry Boudet http://la.buvette.org/ Abhishek Roy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 24-03-01 (Time for Closure [6]) Date: 24 Mar 2001 09:34:38 EST Classic FOTD -- March 24, 2001 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Today's fractal image resembles a twisting spider's web closing on its victim, which is the midget at the center. This inspired the rather unlikely name "Time for Closure". Unfortunately, with some of the equipment not yet operational, I have almost no time for a discussion, so I'll end it here and let the image speak for itself. (Please let me know what it says when it starts speaking.) :-) The parameter file renders in a couple minutes, and the GIF image file will soon be available on the Web at: and at: At 56F (13C), the fractal weather today was a bit milder and a bit less windy, but still too blustery for the cats, who sat by the window most of the day. And as for myself -- I'm going to spend the day trying to get the new Fractal Central up and running as efficiently as the old one did. The next FOTD will appear in an indefinite number of hours. Until then, take care. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Time_for_Closure { ; time=0:03:46.68--SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+4.211317671361535/+1.331181935542793/1\ 35701.3/1/112.5 params=-0.03/-15/2/1.333/-0.6/0 float=y maxiter=600 inside=0 logmap=66 periodicity=10 colors=000F00F00G00H00I00J00K00N00Q00X02bDDiQNqdVx\ qdwvkzzqzzizzazzXzwTzqQznNziJzdGzaDzXGzTIzPJzJLzGN\ zJOqLQbNRQOTDQVBNY9L_8Ja6Ib4Gd2Ef1Dg1Bk09l08n06p04\ q02k01d0Tw01d22k84qE6pJ8nO9nVBl_DkdEikGgpIftJfwIfw\ GdxEdxDbxBbz9az8az6_z6_z4_z2Yz1YzTXz0Xz0Vz0Vz0Tz0T\ z0Rz0Rz0Rz0Qz0Qz0Qz0Oz0Oz0Oz0Nz0Nz0Nz0Lz0Lz0Lz0Jz0\ Jz0Jz0zz0Iz0Iz0Iz0Gz0Gz0zz0Ez0Ez0Ez0Dz0Dz0Dz0Bz0Bz\ 0Bz0Bz09z09z09z08z08z08z06z06z06z04z04z04z02z02z02\ z02z01z01z01z00x00x00x00x00x00x00x00x00x00t0Es0Xq0\ Vq0Tp1Tp2Rn4Rn4Ql6Ol8Ok9NkBNiDLiDJgEJgGIfIIfJGdLEd\ LEbNDbODaQBaR9_T9_T8YV8YX6XY6X_4Va2Va2Tb1Td1Rf0Rg0\ Qi0Qi0Ok0Ol0Nn0Np0Lq0Lq0Js0Jt0Iw0Ix0Gz0Gz0Ez0Ez0Dz\ 0Dz0Bz0Bz0Ez0Gz0Iz0Jz0Lz0Nz0Qz0Rz0Tz0Vz1Xz2Yz4_z6b\ z9dzBfzDgzExzYizGkzJlzLpzNqzOszRtzTwzVxzXaz0bz0bz0\ dz0dz0dz0fz0fz0fz0gz0gz1gz1iz2iz4iz4kz6kz8kz8lz9lz\ 9lzBnzDnzDpzEOzzOzxOzqOzl } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Guy Hammer Subject: (fractint) M-Set discovered in 13th century? Date: 24 Mar 2001 13:31:17 -0800 This is strange - check out: http://www.freezone.co.uk/rgirvan/udo.htm -- Guy Hammer, guyh@aracnet.com http://www.aracnet.com/~guyh -- 1:30pm up 11 days, 15:31, 4 users, load average: 1.11, 1.09, 1.03 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) M-Set discovered in 13th century? Date: 24 Mar 2001 15:58:34 -0600 Guy Hammer wrote: > > This is strange - check out: > > http://www.freezone.co.uk/rgirvan/udo.htm > Now you've gotten me searching through boxes where I packed a book containing the facsimiles of the original Carmina Burana texts that were in Latin and Old German. Just have to see if Udo's poem is there as described. Hope I don't have to go through too many boxes to find that book. Interesting article from that prolific writer on fractals, Ray Girvan. I recommend reading a lot of his articles scattered round and about the WWW. Cheers, Bob -- ******************************************************* We interrupt this program to bring you loud static. ******************************************************* Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) M-Set discovered in 13th century? It's a hoax, folks. Date: 24 Mar 2001 17:00:50 -0600 > Guy Hammer wrote: > > > > This is strange - check out: > > > > http://www.freezone.co.uk/rgirvan/udo.htm > > Sorry, Gary. I just found out that the article mentioned in your URL is a hoax. Here's what Netsurfer Digest says about it: Udo Uh-oh It's not often we're taken in by a hoax page and sometimes we even play along, but honesty and emotional masochism compel us to admit we were completely fooled by the Udo of Aachen page we reviewed last issue ("A 13th Century Monk 700 Years Ahead of His Time"). It's a hoax, a fact we should have clued into by the date of the article: Apr. 1, 1999. More obscure clues include the village of "Irrendorf" ("loony village" in German) and a monastery named after Umberto Eco. One we did catch was the Monk Thelonius, although we dismissed it as coincidence. Don't think we didn't have our suspicions. We did do many Web searches trying to either confirm or deny the veracity of the article, but we found nothing to sway us either way. We guess next time we should contact the author before putting a fishy page in NSD, instead of after. ============== I think I'll stop looking for my copy of Carmina Burana now. Bob -- ******************************************************* We interrupt this program to bring you loud static. ******************************************************* Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Correction: M-Set discovered in 13th century? It's a hoax, folks.] Date: 24 Mar 2001 17:05:34 -0600 Bob Margolis wrote: > > > Guy Hammer wrote: > > > > > > This is strange - check out: > > > > > > http://www.freezone.co.uk/rgirvan/udo.htm > > > > > Sorry, Gary. I meant, "Sorry, Guy." It's the fault of my bloodshot eyes. ;-) Cheers, Bob -- ******************************************************* We interrupt this program to bring you loud static. ******************************************************* Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RENRAD1@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) M-Set discovered in 13th century? Date: 24 Mar 2001 18:13:56 EST From the thread about "Earthquake Art?" > http://www.freezone.co.uk/rgirvan/udo.htm Hoax or reality ? Hoax. Featured on both slashdot and kuro5hin. Apart from the date of the article, notice the name of the monk's helper. Very beautifully done though. > Thierry Boudet http://la.buvette.org/ Abhishek Roy Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) L-FOTD 23-03-01 (The Busiest Midget [5]) Date: 23 Mar 2001 08:29:44 EST Late FOTD -- March 23, 2001 (Rating 5) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: All right, I realize that the FOTD failed to appear when promised. I won't promise it at a particular time again until the current confusion has ended. Today's super-quick fractal once again takes advantage of the 'tdis' outside coloring option, producing one of the busiest effects I have yet posted. I named the picture "The Busiest Midget" because this is the first name that came to mind. Though the parameter file is fast, the GIF file can be found at the following two sites: The fractal weather was cold and blustery, with a temperature of 46F (8C). These conditions confined the fractal cats once again to the indoors, where they sulked for my benefit. I'll return in an indefinite number of hours with the next in the unending series of FOTD's. Until then, take care. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ The_Busiest_Midget { ; time=0:04:36.82--SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+0.20557450556646010/+0.151897183583007\ 80/95052.51/1/75 params=1/-1.15/-1/1.15/-0.15/800 float=y maxiter=800 inside=0 outside=tdis periodicity=10 colors=000DmwcwAdxBfxBgyChyCjyDkzDlzEmzEnyDnxDnxDn\ wDnvDnvDouCotCotCosCorCorCoqCppBppBpoBpoBpnBpmBpmB\ qlAqkAqkAqjAqiAqiAqhArg9rg9rf9re9re9rd9rd9oeBleDjf\ FgfHdfJbgL_gNYgPVhRShTQiVNiXKiZIj`FjbDjdFheGgeHffI\ efJdgKcgLbgMahN`hOZiPYiQXjRWjSVjTUkUTkVSlWRlgWzXQl\ NLZDFL1973A84A96AA7AA8ABABCBBCDBDEBEFBFHCFICGKCHLC\ HMCIODJPDKRDKSDLTDMVEMWENXEOZEO_EPaFQbFRcFReFSfFTh\ GTiGUjGVlGWmGWoHXpHYqHYsHZtH_uH_sKXrMVqPSoRQnUNmWL\ kWIlYJlZJm_Km`KmaKnbLncLndLofMogMohMpiNpjNqkOqlOqm\ OroPrpPrqPsrQssQstQtuRtvRtwRrwSpwSnwSlwSjwShwSfwSd\ wSbwS`wSZwSYwSWwTUwTSwTQwTOwTMwTKwTIwTGwTEwTCwTBwT\ AtU9qV9nW8kX8hY7eZ7b_6_`6Xa5Ub5Rc4Od4Le3If3Fg2Ch29\ i16j22n13k14i14g15e16c16a17_18Y18W19U1AS0AP0BN0CL0\ CJ0DH0EF0ED0FB0G90G70H50H31I42J42K53L53M64N64O65P7\ 5Q76R86S87T87U98V98WA9XA9YAAZBA_BB`CBaCCbCDcDDdDEe\ EEfEFgFFhFGiFGjGHkGHlHImH } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Multiple Bogeys" Subject: Re: (fractint) Earthquake As Artist Date: 25 Mar 2001 02:33:42 -0500 ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C0B4D4.02E06260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > How would he have known that iterating that formula would produce somet= hing > worth doing. If he did it at all, I think that he must have had help - > perhaps he had pointers from superior beings. I believe it is not beyond the realm of possibility that he did it himsel= f. People have fought and died in wars for religious beliefs. Besides, ma= th types are usually hackers (and most 13th century monks were certainly = hackers, 700 years before the invention of the computer but hackers nonet= heless) and when hackers get their intellectual teeth in an interesting p= roblem they don't let go and will move heaven and earth to solve it. However, it does seem likely he had some assistance. However, Occam's raz= or indicates that we should not postulate gods (or extraterrestrials) as = the source of the assistance; as our modern computer technology indicates= man alone is sufficient. Two possibilities then occur: he had assistance= in hand calculations, or he had (possibly indirect) access to advanced t= echnology. The former is very plausible, and the latter is not out of the= question. Obviously, no advanced technological civilization on a par wit= h our own existed on earth within the past 11,600 years, or it would have= left clear archaeological evidence. Reading between the lines of the Ved= ic literature of ancient India reveals that it was clearly cribbed from a= n original source who was an eyewitness to the use of flying machines, in= cluding heavier-than-air ones. Since the literature predates the Wright b= rothers by thousands of years, 1930s era technology existed somewhere on = earth, probably near India, in the distant past. Moreover, if it had been= more recent than 11,600 years ago, their technological detritus would be= littered over the land we are familiar with. Earlier than that, however,= our familiar civilized lands were buried under sheets of ice and large a= reas of currently submerged land were above water. It is there that such = a civilization's most advanced relics would be found. Such a civilization= (and its destruction!) would have left a resounding psychological shockw= ave bouncing for millennia, and it probably has in the religions and lege= nds of gods and great heros. It would have also left some knowledge scatt= ered in copied and mutated books -- a possible source for a Mandelbrot im= age in the 13th century, or for the Vedic literature or parts thereof. Geological data suggests two sizable landmasses were exposed during the l= ast ice age that are now submerged: the Celtic Shelf, a region of contine= ntal shelf around the British Isles, and the shallow bottom of the South = China Sea. The former would during the ice age have been an island the si= ze of Greenland between Iceland and Europe, with present-day Britain and = Ireland as mountaintops. There are megalithic relics here that present my= steries if we try to imagine hunter-gatherers constructing them; of these= Stonehenge is the most notorious. Megaliths are notoriously hard to date= accurately because the radioisotopes present in most stones have half-li= ves measured in millions of years. They can thus be dated to within hundr= eds of kiloyears but no more precisely. The world's unusual megaliths are= all "recent" -- that is, from the past few hundred thousand years. One s= tone circle in the British Isles, however, has been positively dated by o= ther means peculiar to its circumstance. This circle (not Stonehenge) is = 11,600 years old or older, and the proof is that it is partially submerge= d and was last exposed that long ago during the ice age. At that time, th= e Celtic Shelf was exposed; the Gulf Stream would have given it a compara= tively mild climate despite the ice age and latitude. It would have been = comparable in climate to present-day Alaska, which has a technological ci= vilized presence, and would have had comparable resources (Alaska has oil= , the Celtic Shelf would have had the same coal seams that, so abundant i= n Britain, birthed the Industrial Revolution there, and in vast quantitie= s). The floor of the South China Sea is an even better candidate, the siz= e of Europe and Asia Minor combined; 11,600 years ago it was a fertile eq= uatorial plain with a climate comparable to present-day Florida and the M= idwest, large meandering rivers, very suitable for agriculture; it would = have been bordered to the south by a volcanic mountain range that is now = the island chain of Indonesia. Whereas an Ice Age civilization had good o= dds of developing industry in the Celtic area, its development of agricul= ture, urbanization, and reading and writing would likely have occurred in= what is now Indonesia. Certain legends and myths hint at advanced civilizations in the latter an= d possibly both locations in the distant past. Three particular instances= : 1. Plato's Atlantis. Plato dated the downfall of Atlantis at exactly 11,6= 00 years before present (adjusted for the elapsed time since Plato's writing). The ending of an ice age is probably a r= ather violent affair, accompanied by devastating storms, changes in rainfall that could cause massive crop failures, e= tc. -- add to that the massive flooding as the sea level rose and it becomes clear that much as it might sound like a go= od thing it could well have toppled a civilization. (Recent scientific evidence from the GISP2 ice core indicate that the= onset of interglacials is much more abrupt than previously thought -- on the order of years or decades to go from ful= l glacial to full interglacial conditions. No way can the sea and air reorganize themselves that radically without doing so= violently with massive hurricane-like storms, floods...) Moreover, the landmass in the vicinity of present-day Indo= nesia is the size Plato described. Its location seems off by about 20,000km, but apparently the name "Atlantic Ocean" origi= nally applied to the ocean then believed to circle the Old World -- before they knew about North and South America the n= ame Pacific Ocean was not even invented! And Atlantis was reputedly destroyed by floods, earthquakes, and volc= ano shortly after fighting a war with "unimaginable" weapons. The site in question is highly volcanic owing= to plate subduction nearby, and would have flooded rapidly with the thawing of the ice age. 2. The Norse myth of Ragnarok. Reading between the lines, it sounds like = a (distorted) lesson about something we found very frightening during the 60s, 70s, and 80s -- Mutually Assured Des= truction. Doesn't it seem at least somewhat plausible that some ancient civilization blew themselves up? In Ragna= rok, the gods go to war and destroy each other and the world with them. Nuclear war, anyone? I wonder how big the Mighty= Hammer 'Mjollnir' was -- 60 megatons or 100? In the climate record, there's a mysterious 700-1300 year cold period= after the end of the ice age called the Younger Dryas (the name refers to oak pollen used to date the period and gues= s its climate -- presumably the Older Dryas was the ice age itself). It is poorly-explained, but wooly mammoths were = frozen in fierce blizzars while munching on summer grass so its onset was very sudden. Now what was that frightening pos= sibility that people raised regarding long term effects from nuclear war? I seem to recall it was called "nuclear win= ter"... 3. The Biblical stories of Exodus and Revelation. Ever seen 'Dante's Peak= '? The fish boiled in the lake? The acid waters? The lava flows? The mud flows and floods? The town pulverised by a volcan= ic explosion? It's been accepted in archaeological circles that the "shout" that felled the walls of Jericho was real, and was an earthquake in t= hat notoriously earthquake-prone place called the Middle East. Exodus and Revelation sure sound like volcanic events, p= robably on the ultra-plinian scale, VEI 7 or 8. (That level, BTW, makes Krakatoa look like a wet firecracker by compa= rison. The scale is logarithmic, just like the Richter scale for earthquakes.) Indeed, fish boiled in volcanically-heated wa= ters are a decent candidate for the "loaves and fishes" that fed the Israelites, who sure sound like refugees from a = colossal natural disaster. Present-day Indonesia is a good candidate site for such a prehistoric disaster. Revelation has s= everal passages of special significance, for its "Beast" is clearly none other than a volcanic island or mountain chai= n -- one including seven major mountains or islands, ten individual volcanic vents or peaks, and a hellish amount of fire = and brimstone to hurl onto the surrounding landscape. The passage about the Beast seeming mortally wounded with one head cu= t off, only for it to regenerate, sounds a lot like what happens every time Krakatoa (from that very region) blows i= ts top -- the whole mountain is destroyed, but the volcanic vent soon constructs a new one. One of the Beast's heads reg= ularly falls off and regenerates to this very day! The "number of the beast" probably refers to the visual appearance of= the area -- three of the peaks have a "tail" off the mountain peak, making it look in relief topography like three six= es! (Historical note: in addition to the well-known Krakatoa explosion of the late 1880s, it did its thing in the 15th ce= ntury too, with markedly similar results -- a large portion of the island was utterly destroyed, and it regenerated by vo= lcanic means, producing a new island amid the exposed fragments of the old -- which was itself destroyed in the 188= 0s eruption, only to be currently growing back again.) Incidentally, a VEI 7+ volcanic eruption would probably have caused a= 700-year winter as effectively as a nuclear war. Thus, there is much evidence to support a hypothesis that an advanced civ= ilization existed near present-day Indonesia 11,600 years ago, probably s= pawning offshoots elsewhere, fought an internecine conflict with nuclear = weapons in its final years, and was thus weakened into a state where an exploding volcano and = nuke-and-volcano-assisted climate fluctuations delivered the coup-de-grace.
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> How would= he have known that iterating that formula would produce something
>= ; worth doing. If he did it at all, I think that he must have had help -<= BR>> perhaps he had pointers from superior beings.
I be= lieve it is not beyond the realm of possibility that he did it himself. P= eople have fought and died in wars for religious beliefs. Besides, math t= ypes are usually hackers (and most 13th century monks were certainly hack= ers, 700 years before the invention of the computer but hackers nonethele= ss) and when hackers get their intellectual teeth in an interesting probl= em they don't let go and will move heaven and earth to solve it.
 
However, it does seem likely he had some assistance.= However, Occam's razor indicates that we should not postulate gods (or e= xtraterrestrials) as the source of the assistance; as our modern computer= technology indicates man alone is sufficient. Two possibilities then occ= ur: he had assistance in hand calculations, or he had (possibly indirect)= access to advanced technology. The former is very plausible, and the lat= ter is not out of the question. Obviously, no advanced technological civi= lization on a par with our own existed on earth within the past 11,600 ye= ars, or it would have left clear archaeological evidence. Reading between= the lines of the Vedic literature of ancient India reveals that it was c= learly cribbed from an original source who was an eyewitness to the use o= f flying machines, including heavier-than-air ones. Since the literature = predates the Wright brothers by thousands of years, 1930s era technology = existed somewhere on earth, probably near India, in the distant past. Mor= eover, if it had been more recent than 11,600 years ago, their technologi= cal detritus would be littered over the land we are familiar with. Earlie= r than that, however, our familiar civilized lands were buried under shee= ts of ice and large areas of currently submerged land were above water. I= t is there that such a civilization's most advanced relics would be found= . Such a civilization (and its destruction!) would have left a resounding= psychological shockwave bouncing for millennia, and it probably has in t= he religions and legends of gods and great heros. It would have also left= some knowledge scattered in copied and mutated books -- a possible sourc= e for a Mandelbrot image in the 13th century, or for the Vedic literature= or parts thereof.
 
Geological data suggests = two sizable landmasses were exposed during the last ice age that are now = submerged: the Celtic Shelf, a region of continental shelf around the Bri= tish Isles, and the shallow bottom of the South China Sea. The former wou= ld during the ice age have been an island the size of Greenland between I= celand and Europe, with present-day Britain and Ireland as mountaintops. = There are megalithic relics here that present mysteries if we try to imag= ine hunter-gatherers constructing them; of these Stonehenge is the most n= otorious. Megaliths are notoriously hard to date accurately because the r= adioisotopes present in most stones have half-lives measured in millions = of years. They can thus be dated to within hundreds of kiloyears but no m= ore precisely. The world's unusual megaliths are all "recent" -- that is,= from the past few hundred thousand years. One stone circle in the Britis= h Isles, however, has been positively dated by other means peculiar to it= s circumstance. This circle (not Stonehenge) is 11,600 years old or older= , and the proof is that it is partially submerged and was last exposed th= at long ago during the ice age. At that time, the Celtic Shelf was expose= d; the Gulf Stream would have given it a comparatively mild climate despi= te the ice age and latitude. It would have been comparable in climate to = present-day Alaska, which has a technological civilized presence, and wou= ld have had comparable resources (Alaska has oil, the Celtic Shelf would = have had the same coal seams that, so abundant in Britain, birthed t= he Industrial Revolution there, and in vast quantities). The fl= oor of the South China Sea is an even better candidate, the size of Europ= e and Asia Minor combined; 11,600 years ago it was a fertile equatorial p= lain with a climate comparable to present-day Florida and the Midwest, la= rge meandering rivers, very suitable for agriculture; it would have been&= nbsp;bordered to the south by a volcanic mountain range that is now = the island chain of Indonesia. Whereas an Ice Age civilization had g= ood odds of developing industry in the Celtic area, its development of ag= riculture, urbanization, and reading and writing would likely have occurr= ed in what is now Indonesia.
 
Certain legends= and myths hint at advanced civilizations in the latter and possibly= both locations in the distant past. Three particular instances:
1. Plato's Atlantis. Plato dated the downfall of Atlantis at exactly 1= 1,600 years before present (adjusted for the elapsed
 &nb= sp;  time since Plato's writing). The ending of an ice age is probab= ly a rather violent affair, accompanied by devastating
 &= nbsp;  storms, changes in rainfall that could cause massive crop fai= lures, etc. -- add to that the massive flooding as the sea
&nb= sp;   level rose and it becomes clear that much as it might sou= nd like a good thing it could well have toppled a civilization.
    (Recent scientific evidence from the GISP2 ice core = indicate that the onset of interglacials is much more abrupt than <= DIV>    previously thought -- on the order of years or dec= ades to go from full glacial to full interglacial conditions. No way can<= /DIV>
    the sea and air reorganize themselves that = radically without doing so violently with massive hurricane-like storms,<= /DIV>
    floods...) Moreover, the landmass in the vi= cinity of present-day Indonesia is the size Plato described. Its location= seems
    off by about 20,000km, but apparentl= y the name "Atlantic Ocean" originally applied to the ocean then believed= to circle
    the Old World -- before they kne= w about North and South America the name Pacific Ocean was not even inven= ted!
    And Atlantis was reputedly destroyed b= y floods, earthquakes, and volcano shortly after fighting a war with
    "unimaginable" weapons. The site in question is= highly volcanic owing to plate subduction nearby, and would have flooded=
    rapidly with the thawing of the ice age.
2. The Norse myth of Ragnarok. Reading between the lines, it so= unds like a (distorted) lesson about something we found
 =    very frightening during the 60s, 70s, and 80s -- Mutually As= sured Destruction. Doesn't it seem at least somewhat
 &nb= sp;  plausible that some ancient civilization blew themselves up? In= Ragnarok, the gods go to war and destroy each other and
 = ;   the world with them. Nuclear war, anyone? I wonder how big = the Mighty Hammer 'Mjollnir' was -- 60 megatons or 100?
 =    In the climate record, there's a mysterious 700-1300 year co= ld period after the end of the ice age called the Younger
&nbs= p;   Dryas (the name refers to oak pollen used to date the peri= od and guess its climate -- presumably the Older Dryas was
&nb= sp;   the ice age itself). It is poorly-explained, but wooly ma= mmoths were frozen in fierce blizzars while munching on summer
    grass so its onset was very sudden. Now what was that= frightening possibility that people raised regarding long term
    effects from nuclear war? I seem to recall it was ca= lled "nuclear winter"...
3. The Biblical stories of Exodus and= Revelation. Ever seen 'Dante's Peak'? The fish boiled in the lake? The a= cid waters? The
    lava flows? The mud flows a= nd floods? The town pulverised by a volcanic explosion?
&= nbsp;   It's been accepted in archaeological circles that the "= shout"
    that felled the walls of Jericho was= real, and was an earthquake in that notoriously earthquake-prone place c= alled the
    Middle East. Exodus and Revelatio= n sure sound like volcanic events, probably on the ultra-plinian scale, V= EI 7 or 8.
    (That level, BTW, makes Krakatoa= look like a wet firecracker by comparison. The scale is logarithmic, jus= t like the Richter
    scale for earthquakes.) = Indeed, fish boiled in volcanically-heated waters are a decent candidate = for the "loaves and
    fishes" that fed t= he Israelites, who sure sound like refugees from a colossal natural disas= ter. Present-day Indonesia is a
    good candid= ate site for such a prehistoric disaster. Revelation has several passages= of special significance, for its
    "Beast" i= s clearly none other than a volcanic island or mountain chain -= - one including seven major mountains or islands,
  =   ten individual volcanic vents or peaks, and a hellish am= ount of fire and brimstone to hurl onto the surrounding landscape.
=
    The passage about the Beast seeming mortally woun= ded with one head cut off, only for it to regenerate, sounds a lot
=
    like what happens every time Krakatoa (from that = very region) blows its top -- the whole mountain is destroyed, but the
    volcanic vent soon constructs a new one. One = of the Beast's heads regularly falls off and regenerates to this very day= !
    The "number of the beast" probably refers= to the visual appearance of the area -- three of the peaks have a "tail"= off
    the mountain peak, making it look= in relief topography like three sixes! (Historical note: in addition to = the well-known
    Krakatoa explosion of the la= te 1880s, it did its thing in the 15th century too, with markedly similar= results -- a large
    portion of the island w= as utterly destroyed, and it regenerated by volcanic means, producing a n= ew island amid the
    exposed fragments of the= old -- which was itself destroyed in the 1880s eruption, only to be curr= ently growing back
    again.)
 = ;   Incidentally, a VEI 7+ volcanic eruption would probably hav= e caused a 700-year winter as effectively as a nuclear war.
&n= bsp;
Thus, there is much evidence to support a hypothesis that= an advanced civilization existed near present-day Indonesia 11,600 years= ago, probably spawning offshoots elsewhere, fought an internecine confli= ct with nuclear weapons in its final
years, and was thus weake= ned into a state where an exploding volcano and nuke-and-volcano-assisted= climate fluctuations
delivered the coup-de-grace.


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I'm sorry, but m= ost e-mail clients (including the one I use) cannot intelligibly render t= his markup.

Indeed, it looks like what happens if binary data with= some embedded text (e.g. a word processor document file) is sent as if i= t were plain text.

 

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> Today's f= ractal image resembles a twisting spider's web closing
> on its vic= tim, which is the midget at the center.  This inspired
> the r= ather unlikely name "Time for Closure".
Via 'Charlotte's W= eb' or via the mathematical jargon definition of "closure"? :-)

 


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Now the problem is clearing and cleaning the fractal vestiges from the old Fractal Central auxiliary by the end of this week, when the lease expires. This means one more week of hasty FOTD's then a return to the rambling discussions that used to keep things lively on the philofractal list, which is basically dead at the present time. Today's image is named "Bits and Pieces" because of the scattered fragments of Mandel-stuff that fill the scene. The parameter file renders in under four minutes, and the GIF file will soon be available on the Web at: and at: The fractal weather today was cloudy and mild, with a temperature of 62F (16.5C), which the fractal cats deemed ideal. That's it for today. I'll return in 24 hours, plus or minus 12 hours, with another fractal. Until then, take care, and be patient. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Bits_and_Pieces { ; time=0:03:45.47--SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=t center-mag=-0.432695/0.050034/1.41512/1/112.5 params=1/-1.15/-1/1.15/-0.15/0 float=y maxiter=7500 inside=0 logmap=yes periodicity=10 colors=000LTbMUcOVcPVdRWeSXeUYfVYfXZgZ_h__ha`ibaid\ bjebkgckhdljdllemmfnognpgorhosipuiqvjqxkrzksyjryiq\ zhpygoyfnyemxdlxckxbjx`ix_hxYgxWfwVewTdwScwRbwPawO\ `wM_vLZvKYvIXvHWvGVvEUvDTuCSuARu9Qu8Pu6Ou5Nw3Mu4Ns\ 4Nq5No5Nm6Nk6Ni7Og7Oe8Oc8Oa9O_9OYAOWAPUBPSBPQCPOCP\ MDPKCOLDPLEQLFRLGRLHSLHTMITMJUMKVMLVMLWMMXMNXNOYNP\ ZNPZNQ_NR`NS`NTaOTbOUcOVcOWdOXeOXeOYfPZgP_gP`hP`iP\ aiPbjPckQdkQdlQemQfmQgnQhoQhoPfpPepPdpOcpObpO`pO_p\ NZpNYpNXpNVpMUpMTpMSpLRpLPpLOpLNpKMqKLqKKqKIqJHqJG\ qJFqIEqICqIBqIAqH9qH8qH6qH5qG4qG3qG2qE0pG1qH2qI3qK\ 4qL5qM6qN7qP8qQ9qRAqSBqUCqVCqWDqXEqZFq_Gq`HqaIqcJq\ dKqeLqgMqhNqiOqjOqlPqmQqnRqoSqqTqrUqsVqtWqvXqwYqxZ\ qz_ryZqyYqyXqxWqxVqxUqxTpwSpwSpwRpwQpvPpvOpvNouMou\ LouLouKotJotIotHntGnsFnsEnsEnsDnrCnrBmrAmq9mq8mq7m\ q7mp6mp5lp4lp3lo2lo1lo0lo0lq8ir9jsAktBluCmvDmwEmwF\ mwGmwHmwImwJmwKmwKmwKmwKm } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: (fractint) "Fractal Art Screensaver Project" is ready. Date: 25 Mar 2001 11:56:20 -0600 Greetings, I am sending out this notice after receiving an email from Doug Harrington, explaing that his time has been very limited lately and that he "would welcome any help" regarding posting a notice of the availabibility of the new screensaver. Doug mentioned that he has already "submitted the saver to a couple of major software sites, ZDNET etc. and still have some to do....", so hopefully word will soon spread with everybody's help. Doug Harrington has spent a lot of time and effort on this volunteer project that was introduced several weeks ago. He has been communicating with 49 different artists, at different times, about different topics, over a 4-6 week to finally resolve all issues that could be resolved (considering the time and number of individuals involved). The basic information about the "Fractal Art Screensaver Project" may be found at the following URL: http://Fractalarts.com/ASF/FASP.html where you can review the Artists that were involved and retrieve a copy of this project. The file is approximately 7-MB in size, but considering the software and number of images, this is really a great deal of information packed into a single file. I hope that this is only the first of many such projects, or even a series of screensavers showcasing the fractal art of the worldwide community. Sincerely, P.N.L. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DeBow Freed Subject: Re: (fractint) "Fractal Art Screensaver Project" is ready. Date: 25 Mar 2001 14:32:30 -0600 Fellow Fractaliers- Please pardon my asking this question which has probably been answered elsewhere - wherever I haven't yet looked. Nevertheless, how does the current Fractal Screensaver Project relate to the existing allegedly Fractint-based screensaver (which I have never been able to successfully download, run, or get help in doing either from its Norwegian author despite repeated requests)? Improved user/author friendliness of the existing screensaver would be a nice change, as, no doubt, would be an entirely new effort from the ground up. Could someone (e.g., PNL, JM, TW) offer a few lines of overview? Thanks. D Freed "Paul N. Lee" wrote: > Greetings, > > I am sending out this notice after receiving an email from Doug > Harrington, explaing that his time has been very limited lately and that > he "would welcome any help" regarding posting a notice of the > availabibility of the new screensaver. > > Doug mentioned that he has already "submitted the saver to a couple of > major software sites, ZDNET etc. and still have some to do....", so > hopefully word will soon spread with everybody's help. > > Doug Harrington has spent a lot of time and effort on this volunteer > project that was introduced several weeks ago. He has been > communicating with 49 different artists, at different times, about > different topics, over a 4-6 week to finally resolve all issues that > could be resolved (considering the time and number of individuals > involved). > > The basic information about the "Fractal Art Screensaver Project" may be > found at the following URL: > > http://Fractalarts.com/ASF/FASP.html > > where you can review the Artists that were involved and retrieve a copy > of this project. The file is approximately 7-MB in size, but > considering the software and number of images, this is really a great > deal of information packed into a single file. > > I hope that this is only the first of many such projects, or even a > series of screensavers showcasing the fractal art of the worldwide > community. > > Sincerely, > P.N.L. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@fractint.org > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) "Fractal Art Screensaver Project" is ready. Date: 25 Mar 2001 15:41:50 -0600 DeBow Freed wrote: > > Nevertheless, how does the current Fractal > Screensaver Project relate to the existing > allegedly Fractint-based screensaver..... The FASP was a collaboration of many artists using various fractal generators. This was done to create a Freeware product, to showcase for the general public, the beauty and diversity of fractal images (or for the fractal enthusiast to use on their PC). It is a standalone screensaver program with the submitted images from 49 artists. I believe the FractInt screensaver uses the PAR and FRM files to generate images, but having never used Thore Berntsen's utility, I could not give any further details. I do know that the web site no longer has it available for download. Sincerely, P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Edward Barton" Subject: Re: (fractint) Earthquake As Artist Date: 26 Mar 2001 09:46:40 +0200 I don't think that you fully understand either the amount of devotion to a subject that monks have or the Mandelbrot set. From the look of the sketches, I estimate that he calculated about only 10-15 iterations per pixel, at a very low resolution. This could very well have taken the time that he spent on it, giving about 1 minute per iteration, that means at most 10 minutes per pixel, so perhaps with a resolution of 200x200, 400000 minutes. 277 full days. >From: "Rupert Millard" >Reply-To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: (fractint) Earthquake As Artist >Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:57:49 -0000 > >Hi, > >Even with monastic devotion I do not believe that he could have calculated >that image. Therefore I think that it must be a hoax. > >How would he have known that iterating that formula would produce something >worth doing. If he did it at all, I think that he must have had help - >perhaps he had pointers from superior beings. > >From, > >Rupert > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Programmer Dude Subject: Re: (fractint) Earthquake As Artist Date: 26 Mar 2001 09:23:50 -0600 Abhishek Roy wrote: > Hoax. Featured on both slashdot and kuro5hin. Apart from the date of > the article, notice the name of the monk's helper. Thelonius?? I don' get it.... ;-( -- |_ CJSonnack _____________| How's my programming? | |_ http://www.Sonnack.com/ ___________________| Call: 1-800-DEV-NULL | |_____________________________________________|_______________________| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "MDrozdis" Subject: Re: (fractint) Earthquake As Artist Date: 26 Mar 2001 10:57:01 -0500 Thelonius Monk, Jazz Great. Marie :) ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 10:23 AM > Abhishek Roy wrote: > > > Hoax. Featured on both slashdot and kuro5hin. Apart from the date of > > the article, notice the name of the monk's helper. > > Thelonius?? > > I don' get it.... ;-( > > -- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Programmer Dude Subject: Re: (fractint) Earthquake As Artist Date: 26 Mar 2001 10:16:41 -0600 MDrozdis wrote: >>> ...the article, notice the name of the monk's helper. >> >> Thelonius?? >> >> I don' get it.... ;-( > > Thelonius Monk, Jazz Great. Doh!!!! Great. Now I can spend the rest of the week feeling very, very stupid. I even *own* a couple Monk albums...... :-\ -- |_ CJSonnack _____________| How's my programming? | |_ http://www.Sonnack.com/ ___________________| Call: 1-800-DEV-NULL | |_____________________________________________|_______________________| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) Missing FOTD Date: 27 Mar 2001 07:17:12 EST Fractal fans: Despite my best efforts to continue the FOTD during the current hectic conditions, I find I am unable to do so without an unacceptable decline in quality. In other words, I don't have the time to find the fractals and write the discussion. Therefore I must suspend the FOTD until the rush has passed. Look for the FOTD to resume around April 3. There are still googols of fractals I have not yet found, and lots of fractal philosophy I have yet to broach. Jim M. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Coppin" Subject: (fractint) Twenty & One Date: 28 Mar 2001 12:36:28 -0000 Arh maaaan, it's my birthday today, and for the first time in months I've got a completly empty FractInt mailbox today... Not even an FotD... and it's raining! And I'm sitting at home all by my self... AND I've got to go to work tonight, and scrub greasy floors on my birthday... But still, all is not lost... Actually, I'm not writing this messing simply to bore you all with my unhappyness (for this IRC was invented!) What I'm really after is fractal formulae, 3 particular ones in fact... Does anyone here (hello Morgan 8-) know what the generalised Quartic Mandelbrot formula is? Next, what about the experiment with the pendulumn and the three magnets? Can anyone explain to me how I can get fractint to run that simulation? (The video I saw it on did contain some differential equations, but 1. I do not really understant such things and 2. I no longer have the video; the library wanted it back!) And finally, has anyone ever seen that Mandeloid based on Newton's Approximation of the Cube Roots of Unity, the one that looks like a figure of 8 rotated through 90 degrees? What's the formula for that? Thanks. Andrew. PS. It may be raining, I may be all alone, and I may have to go to work tonight, but I still have FractInt. And LaTeX. It could be much worse! (And was until yesterday!!!) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ville V Sinkko Subject: Re: (fractint) Earthquake As Artist Date: 28 Mar 2001 17:25:20 +0300 (EET DST) On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Programmer Dude wrote: > Abhishek Roy wrote: > > > Hoax. Featured on both slashdot and kuro5hin. Apart from the date of > > the article, notice the name of the monk's helper. > > Thelonius?? > > I don' get it.... ;-( The joke is, of course, that it's misspelled. ;) Thelonious Monk, a jazz pianist. Died 1980-ish. Mighty nice music. While I'm at it, I might just as well say "Hi" (I just subscribed, thanks to recently born interest in the F-word) and challenge you to come up with a fractal picture that represents a thelonious sphere. +Cinquo Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Diana L. Dubel" Subject: (fractint) The Fractal Art screen saver is exquisite! Date: 28 Mar 2001 06:52:11 -0800 The screen saver is one of the most beautiful things I have seen. Thanks to the creators. Diana ======================================== Diana L. Dubel :-) Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again. -Franklin P. Jones E-mail - - - dldubel@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~dldubel/ -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Paul N. Lee Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 9:56 AM ultrafractal@lists.fractalus.com; fractal-art@lists.fractalus.com; fractal-world@yahoogroups.com Greetings, I am sending out this notice after receiving an email from Doug Harrington, explaing that his time has been very limited lately and that he "would welcome any help" regarding posting a notice of the availabibility of the new screensaver. Doug mentioned that he has already "submitted the saver to a couple of major software sites, ZDNET etc. and still have some to do....", so hopefully word will soon spread with everybody's help. Doug Harrington has spent a lot of time and effort on this volunteer project that was introduced several weeks ago. He has been communicating with 49 different artists, at different times, about different topics, over a 4-6 week to finally resolve all issues that could be resolved (considering the time and number of individuals involved). The basic information about the "Fractal Art Screensaver Project" may be found at the following URL: http://Fractalarts.com/ASF/FASP.html where you can review the Artists that were involved and retrieve a copy of this project. The file is approximately 7-MB in size, but considering the software and number of images, this is really a great deal of information packed into a single file. I hope that this is only the first of many such projects, or even a series of screensavers showcasing the fractal art of the worldwide community. Sincerely, P.N.L. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) Twenty & One Date: 28 Mar 2001 13:42:06 -0600 Andrew Coppin wrote: > > Next, what about the experiment with the pendulumn and the three magnets? > Can anyone explain to me how I can get fractint to run that simulation? (The > video I saw it on did contain some differential equations, but 1. I do not > really understant such things and 2. I no longer have the video; the library > wanted it back!) > Hi Birthday Boy (Birthday Man?); There was a software package that came out for MS-DOS 11 years ago. It is called James Gleick's Chaos: The Software and I still have it, although it's far from being state-of-the-art now. One of the fractal modules is a program called Magnets and Pendulum. It used many magnets, not just three, but 16, if you felt like having that number. The book that accompanied the software discussed the mathematics of the program. It was also stated in the book, "You can read more about pendulum systems in James Gleick's Chaos: Making a New Science, pages 40-44. For more information on sensitive dependence on initial conditions, see Chaos: Making a New Science, pages 20-23. While the software package will be hard to find, you may find it easier to locate Chaos: Making a New Science at an online bookstore, Border's or Barnes and Noble; or try Amazon.com or Bibliofind.com. Hope this information is of use to you. Now go and enjoy your birthday cake. Cheers, Bob -- ******************************************************* We interrupt this program to bring you loud static. ******************************************************* Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RENRAD1@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Twenty & One Date: 28 Mar 2001 19:59:16 EST In a message dated 01-03-28 07:38:29 EST, you write: << Arh maaaan, it's my birthday today >> Happy Birthday!! Hope things perk up a bit for some form of mini-celebration. Sorry, can't help you with the formulas, though. That Magnet and Pendulum thing sounds interesting, good luck! ~renrad Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Twenty & One Date: 28 Mar 2001 23:55:06 -0600 Bob Margolis wrote: > > There was a software package that came out for > MS-DOS 11 years ago. It is called James Gleick's > Chaos: The Software ...... > While the software package will be hard to find... Try the following location for the above mentioned software: http://www.mathcs.sjsu.edu/faculty/rucker/ Sincerely, P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) Twenty & One Date: 29 Mar 2001 00:12:57 -0600 "Paul N. Lee" wrote: > > > Try the following location for the above mentioned software: > > http://www.mathcs.sjsu.edu/faculty/rucker/ > I forgot all about Rudy Rucker. He and I had a nice phone conversation a couple of years ago. Anyway, yes, the software is freely available at his Web site. Thanks as always, Paul! Cheers, Bob -- ******************************************************* We interrupt this program to bring you loud static. ******************************************************* Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Twenty & One Date: 28 Mar 2001 21:35:41 -1000 Cool - looks like fun - just added it to the bookmark collection! Thanks! David gnome@hawaii.rr.com On 28 Mar 01 at 23:55, Paul N. Lee wrote: > Bob Margolis wrote: > > > > There was a software package that came out for > > MS-DOS 11 years ago. It is called James Gleick's > > Chaos: The Software ...... > > While the software package will be hard to find... > > Try the following location for the above mentioned > software: > > http://www.mathcs.sjsu.edu/faculty/rucker/ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Coppin" Subject: Re: (fractint) Twenty & One Date: 29 Mar 2001 15:17:16 -0000 >From: "David Jones" >Reply-To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: (fractint) Twenty & One >Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 21:35:41 -1000 > >Cool - looks like fun - just added it to the bookmark >collection! Thanks! > >David >gnome@hawaii.rr.com > >On 28 Mar 01 at 23:55, Paul N. Lee wrote: > > > Bob Margolis wrote: > > > > > > There was a software package that came out for > > > MS-DOS 11 years ago. It is called James Gleick's > > > Chaos: The Software ...... > > > While the software package will be hard to find... > > > > Try the following location for the above mentioned > > software: > > > > http://www.mathcs.sjsu.edu/faculty/rucker/ As always, FractInt people prove to be knowledgable people! 8-] Thanks for the info. Now how about the Newton-Mandeloid and the General Quartic? Thanks. Andrew. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Programmer Dude Subject: Re: (fractint) Twenty & One Date: 29 Mar 2001 09:39:37 -0600 "Paul N. Lee" wrote: > Try the following location for the above mentioned software: > > http://www.mathcs.sjsu.edu/faculty/rucker/ Rudy Rucker!! I'm a fan of that guy! He wrote four (or more?) really interesting (and different) SF novels. Been ages since I read them, and I keep noticing them on the shelf and thinking, "Hmmm, time to read those again." Having his name brought up here must be a sign that it IS time to read those again. Isn't Rucker the guy who first talked about the L26 system? I think it was in his book, MIND TOOLS. If you consider the alphabet as a base-26 numbering system, any word is a single number. If you expand the base a bit so you can include spaces and punctuation in your symbols, you can consider entire sentences, paragraphs and even books as single numbers. Very, very, VERY large numbers. But what a cool concept! I wrote a program once that would take a short string and return its number. Wonder what I did with that... -- |_ CJSonnack _____________| How's my programming? | |_ http://www.Sonnack.com/ ___________________| Call: 1-800-DEV-NULL | |_____________________________________________|_______________________| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Coppin" Subject: Re: (fractint) Twenty & One Date: 29 Mar 2001 15:47:22 -0000 >From: Programmer Dude >Reply-To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: (fractint) Twenty & One >Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:39:37 -0600 > >Isn't Rucker the guy who first talked about the L26 system? I think >it was in his book, MIND TOOLS. If you consider the alphabet as a >base-26 numbering system, any word is a single number. If you expand >the base a bit so you can include spaces and punctuation in your >symbols, you can consider entire sentences, paragraphs and even books >as single numbers. Very, very, VERY large numbers. > >But what a cool concept! I wrote a program once that would take a >short string and return its number. Wonder what I did with that... Yeah, they call it ASCII. 8¬> _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Coppin" Subject: (fractint) Fractint Development Date: 29 Mar 2001 15:54:27 -0000 I know this one's a recurring theame but... What's the deal with fractint's current development status? It's ages since the last "official" release (not the developer's patches). There seems to be very little happening. Is this true? Or are folk sooo busy developing that they have no time to tell us about progress? So, how many peeps are working on this, and what are they trying to do (there's a whole wedge of things that people have asked for; true-colour support, hypercomplex/quat parser formulas, more colouring options, more builtin types, true-colour support...) And then there's the whole question of porting FI to Windows to escape the memory limitations of DOS. I've always wondered about this; why is there a memory problem with DOS but not Windows? Surely FI doesn't do anything that requires virtual memory (except disk video of course!) Could someone attempt to explain this to me? I expect I'm not the only one who's wondering about these things. Thanks in advance for your answers. Andrew. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Programmer Dude Subject: Re: (fractint) Twenty & One Date: 29 Mar 2001 10:20:56 -0600 Andrew Coppin wrote: >> If you expand the base a bit so you can include spaces and punctuation >> in your symbols, you can consider entire sentences, paragraphs and eve= n >> books as single numbers. Very, very, VERY large numbers. >=20 > Yeah, they call it ASCII. 8=AC> [BWG] Yeah, and base-128 numbers get **really** huge fast!! Watch this! CHRIS =3D (in decimal ASCII) 67, 72, 82, 73, 83 As a base-128 number: 67 * 128^4 =3D 17,985,175,552 72 * 128^3 =3D 150,994,944 82 * 128^2 =3D 1,343,488 73 * 128^1 =3D 9,344 83 * 128^0 =3D 83 -------------- "My Number" =3D 18,137,523,411 For a mere five "digit" number! It boggles the mind to consider the size of the number of, say, WAR AND PEACE (or the latest Tom Clancy novel)!! --=20 |_ CJSonnack _____________| How's my programming? | |_ http://www.Sonnack.com/ ___________________| Call: 1-800-DEV-NULL | |_____________________________________________|_______________________| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ulrich =?iso-8859-1?q?Gr=FCn?= Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Development Date: 29 Mar 2001 18:39:36 +0200 Also schrieben Sie (Andrew Coppin) am Donnerstag 29 März 2001 17:54: > I know this one's a recurring theame but... .. and how about the development for Linux. The current version (20-07) doesn't do colour cycling (at least not at my system). Ulrich -- _________________________________________________________ *Linux: the choice of a GNU generation* _________________________________________________________ Ulrich Grün mail: dzjembee@dds.nl icq: 35629246 System: AMD-K6 350, 192MB. OS: RedHat 7, Kernel: 2.2.18 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rupert Millard" Subject: Re: (fractint) Twenty & One Date: 29 Mar 2001 19:13:57 +0100 Andrew, > Thanks for the info. Now how about the Newton-Mandeloid and the General > Quartic? Is this what you wanted for the Newton-Mandeloid? KRup2000-41{ ;By Rupert Millard l=pixel a=l*p1 b=l*p2 c=l*p3 ;Solve the cubic equation z^3+bz^2+cz+d=0 - I must be mad q=(3*b-a^2)/9 r=(9*a*b-27*c-2*a)/54 s=(r+sqrt(q^3+r^2))^(1/3) t=(r-sqrt(q^3+r^2))^(1/2) r1=s+t-a/3 r2=-(s+t)/2-a/3+(0,0.5)*sqrt(3)*(s-t) r3=conj(r2) ;Then the centroid is the point to iterate z=(r1+r2+r3)/3: oldz=z z=z-(z^3+a*z^2+b*z+c)/(3*z^2+2*a*z+b) |oldz-z|>0.0001} It iterates Newton's method cubic equation with coefficients proportional to the coordinates of the pixel (starting at the centroid of the roots of said equation.) This formula contains minibrots. For proof try: temp { ; By Rupert Millard (rupertam@hotmail.com) on Mar 29, 2001 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=krup2000.frm formulaname=KRup2000-41 center-mag=-2.02977/-1.38778e-015/7.704635 params=0/0/1/0/1/0 float=y maxiter=500 inside=0 symmetry=none cyclerange=0/255 colors=@blues.map } I could make an extended version, for UF as Fractint doesn't have enough parameters. This would have a constant amount added on to the multiple of the pixel coordinate (it could be stop a coefficient from being varied.) Like all my UF formulae you could vary the bailout. It could also be quartic. Would that produce cubic minibrots? I'll try and find out. Of course, you're all welcome to try to beat me to it. Its a shame that Fractint doesn't have the capabilities to handle more than five complex parameters. For the general quartic (nb. Requires patch Fractint 20.0.13 or more recent): QuarticMandelbrot{ ;p1 is multiplier of z^4 ;p2 is multiplier of z^3 ;p3 is multiplier of z^2 ;p4 is multiplier of z z=c=pixel: z=p1*z*z*z*z+p2*z*z*z+p3*z*z+p4*z+c |z|<=128 } From, Rupert Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Baske" Subject: RE: (fractint) Twenty & One Date: 29 Mar 2001 18:57:59 -0600 You wanna see big, try Goedel numbering... > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Programmer Dude > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 10:21 > To: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (fractint) Twenty & One > > > Andrew Coppin wrote: > > >> If you expand the base a bit so you can include spaces and > punctuation > >> in your symbols, you can consider entire sentences, > paragraphs and even > >> books as single numbers. Very, very, VERY large numbers. > > > > Yeah, they call it ASCII. 8=AC> > > [BWG] > > Yeah, and base-128 numbers get **really** huge fast!! > > Watch this! > > CHRIS =3D (in decimal ASCII) 67, 72, 82, 73, 83 > > As a base-128 number: 67 * 128^4 =3D 17,985,175,552 > 72 * 128^3 =3D 150,994,944 > 82 * 128^2 =3D 1,343,488 > 73 * 128^1 =3D 9,344 > 83 * 128^0 =3D 83 > -------------- > "My Number" =3D 18,137,523,411 > > For a mere five "digit" number! It boggles the mind to consider the > size of the number of, say, WAR AND PEACE (or the latest Tom Clancy > novel)!! > > -- > |_ CJSonnack _____________| How's my > programming? | > |_ http://www.Sonnack.com/ ___________________| Call: > 1-800-DEV-NULL | > |_____________________________________________|_______________ > ________| > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@fractint.org > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonathan Osuch" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Development Date: 29 Mar 2001 19:38:20 -0600 Ulrich, > .. and how about the development for Linux. The current version (20-07) > doesn't do colour cycling (at least not at my system). If you are in a true color mode, that's the nature of the beast. If you are in a 256 color mode, then we broke it and I'll take a look at it. Strangely, the Neomagic chip in my laptop does color cycling in true color modes. Unfortunately, it uses its own choice of colors. Jonathan Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonathan Osuch" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Development Date: 29 Mar 2001 19:33:11 -0600 Andrew, > What's the deal with fractint's current development status? It's ages since > the last "official" release (not the developer's patches). There seems to be > very little happening. Is this true? Or are folk sooo busy developing that > they have no time to tell us about progress? I am currently working on the true color support for the DOS version. There seems to be a problem with the routines that Bert Tyler added. At any rate, I'm having difficulty getting the images to appear correctly colored on the screen. I'll let you know when it is fixed. The memory limitations stem from two sources. One is that Fractint is compiled in the medium memory model. This means that memory usable for near data is limited to 64KB unless some form of swapping is done. This memory includes the stack space, and we are banging up against this limit constantly. And, no it isn't a simple matter to just change the memory model. The other problem is that we do indeed use extended and/or expanded memory for options other than just disk video. Saving the on screen image when switching to a menu comes to mind. I'll let all the other developer's respond to your question themselves. Jonathan Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: (fractint) Web space help Date: 29 Mar 2001 19:11:15 -0800 My Web site is down right now; it's a long story as to how and why, so I will skip the saga for now. What I need now is some data. Someone was nice enough, a year or so ago, to direct me to a service that provided "unlimited" Web server space for five dollars US per month. If you're out there, or are someone with similar information, please pass it along. I can't hope to find the original message in the mountain of e-mail. TIA, Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) Twenty & One Date: 29 Mar 2001 18:50:14 -0600 Programmer Dude wrote: > Isn't Rucker the guy who first talked about the L26 system? Actually it was the L27 system, with 0 standing for a space, and A to Z being 1 through 26. > I think it was in his book, MIND TOOLS. It was and still is. :-) Bob = 1865 Dude = 94154 Paul = 315534 FractInt = 68752031869 Bob -- ******************************************************* We interrupt this program to bring you loud static. ******************************************************* Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Coppin" Subject: Re: (fractint) Twenty & One Date: 29 Mar 2001 15:17:16 -0000 >From: "David Jones" >Reply-To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: (fractint) Twenty & One >Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 21:35:41 -1000 > >Cool - looks like fun - just added it to the bookmark >collection! Thanks! > >David >gnome@hawaii.rr.com > >On 28 Mar 01 at 23:55, Paul N. Lee wrote: > > > Bob Margolis wrote: > > > > > > There was a software package that came out for > > > MS-DOS 11 years ago. It is called James Gleick's > > > Chaos: The Software ...... > > > While the software package will be hard to find... > > > > Try the following location for the above mentioned > > software: > > > > http://www.mathcs.sjsu.edu/faculty/rucker/ As always, FractInt people prove to be knowledgable people! 8-] Thanks for the info. Now how about the Newton-Mandeloid and the General Quartic? Thanks. Andrew. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Programmer Dude Subject: Re: (fractint) Twenty & One Date: 30 Mar 2001 09:35:17 -0600 Bob Margolis wrote: >> Isn't Rucker the guy who first talked about the L26 system? > > Actually it was the L27 system, with 0 standing for a space, and A to Z > being 1 through 26. Ah, yes! I *knew* that "L26" didn't sound right. >> I think it was in his book, MIND TOOLS. > > It was and still is. :-) Fascinating book! -- |_ CJSonnack _____________| How's my programming? | |_ http://www.Sonnack.com/ ___________________| Call: 1-800-DEV-NULL | |_____________________________________________|_______________________| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Weitzel Subject: (fractint) Fractint Development: The Ljapunow Type Date: 30 Mar 2001 21:41:19 +0200 Hi :-) In 1995 when I was still in school I read an article (by Mario Markus), about Ljapunow diagrams in the german science magazine "Spektrum der Wissenschaft". Last week, while cleaning up my desktop, it fell into my hands and I wrote a small program to display these diagrams... * Ljapunow diagrams absolutely *need* true-colour. :-) colouring the images there are (imho) two methods 1. calculate the whole image, store the exponents fp-number for every pixel. After calculation, use a linear (or non-linear) function and the min and max values for the exponent to colour the image. The image can't be displayed while calculation runs. 2. use a scaleable function that produces values in a fixed interval - 0..1 for example. These values can be rescaled to fit into the Screens/X-Servers colour depth. I made good experiences with the Gauss-curve g(x) = exp(-(a*x)^2) and its complement h(x) = 1 - g(x). Parameter a can be used for scaling the curves width. The decision, if the exponent lambda is <0 or >=0 gives additional interesting information about the image: if (lambda>0.) { red = (int)(255. * (1-exp(-lambda*lambda*.2))); gre = (int)(255. * exp(-lambda*lambda*4.)); blu = (int)(255. * (1-exp(-lambda*lambda*.8))); } else { red = (int)(255. * (1-exp(-lambda*lambda*.5))); gre = (int)(255. * exp(-lambda*lambda*40.)); blu = (int)(255. * (1-exp(-lambda*lambda*.2))); } Has someone thought about a different way to colour these images? I would be interested :-) * The logistic equation is fast to calculate ... but other equations are perhaps more interesting. I tried out f(x) = b*sin^2(x+r) it describes something about the optic stability of liquid cristals (whew;-). b is a fixed parameter; r is the periodic A-B sequence. I produces wonderful repeating textures (is 'procedural textures' the correct english? ... like those textures used for backgrounds in HTML files). In the article are 4 more equations given I have not tried out yet... (if someone is interested in an example, I can put some screenshots on my homepage) * Fractint's way to specify the A-B-order is too complicated and unhandy for the normal user. * I've had a look at xlyap (included in the xscreensaver package, only logistic equat., only 256 colours) ... it does some incredible speed-up (it looks like Fractint's boundary tracing for the complex-number fractals) perhaps one could find out how this works... Thanks to the Stonesoup Group for the wonderful Fractint! :-)) -- Michael LDKnet / LDK/LUG / Unix-AG *Weitzel* /LinuX --- email: michael(at)ldknet.org Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: (fractint) (belated) new Web gallery Date: 31 Mar 2001 10:58:01 -0800 As I continue the search for a new home for my fractals, it seems that my site has risen from the dead. How long it will remain up is uncertain, but here's the announcement that was slated for last week: I have added Fractint Gallery 6, with my Fractal Art 2K entries (which most of you have already seen) and a series of evolving gravijul spirals. http://www.hooked.net/~mchris/fractals.htm -or- http://www.wenet.net/~mchris/fractals.htm Enter through Fractint Galleries or What's New. Aloha, Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Guy Marson Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Development: The Ljapunow Type Date: 01 Apr 2001 00:44:34 +0200 At 21:41 30.03.2001 +0200, you wrote: >Hi :-) > >In 1995 when I was still in school I read an article (by Mario Markus), about >Ljapunow diagrams in the german science magazine "Spektrum der Wissenschaft". >Last week, while cleaning up my desktop, it fell into my hands and I wrote a >small program to display these diagrams... Hi fractinters, Does somebody know the Lyapunow-formula written for the Parser similar to the build-in type, or a place (url or so) to find this formula? Cheers, Guy Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Guy Marson Subject: Re: (fractint) Twenty & One Date: 01 Apr 2001 00:44:41 +0200 At 19:13 29.03.2001 +0100, you wrote: >Andrew, > >> Thanks for the info. Now how about the Newton-Mandeloid and the General >> Quartic? > >Is this what you wanted for the Newton-Mandeloid? > >KRup2000-41{ >;By Rupert Millard >l=pixel >a=l*p1 >b=l*p2 >c=l*p3 >;Solve the cubic equation z^3+bz^2+cz+d=0 - I must be mad >q=(3*b-a^2)/9 >r=(9*a*b-27*c-2*a)/54 >s=(r+sqrt(q^3+r^2))^(1/3) >t=(r-sqrt(q^3+r^2))^(1/2) >r1=s+t-a/3 >r2=-(s+t)/2-a/3+(0,0.5)*sqrt(3)*(s-t) >r3=conj(r2) >;Then the centroid is the point to iterate >z=(r1+r2+r3)/3: >oldz=z >z=z-(z^3+a*z^2+b*z+c)/(3*z^2+2*a*z+b) >|oldz-z|>0.0001} > >It iterates Newton's method cubic equation with coefficients proportional to >the coordinates of the pixel (starting at the centroid of the roots of said >equation.) This formula contains minibrots. For proof try: > >temp { > ; By Rupert Millard (rupertam@hotmail.com) on Mar 29, 2001 > reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=krup2000.frm > formulaname=KRup2000-41 center-mag=-2.02977/-1.38778e-015/7.704635 > params=0/0/1/0/1/0 float=y maxiter=500 inside=0 symmetry=none > cyclerange=0/255 colors=@blues.map > } wouuuuw.. I can't belive it: somebody sending an .frm and a .par! Thanks a lot.. something to play around, super! cheers, Guy > >I could make an extended version, for UF as Fractint doesn't have enough >parameters. This would have a constant amount added on to the multiple of >the pixel coordinate (it could be stop a coefficient from being varied.) >Like all my UF formulae you could vary the bailout. It could also be >quartic. Would that produce cubic minibrots? I'll try and find out. Of >course, you're all welcome to try to beat me to it. Its a shame that >Fractint doesn't have the capabilities to handle more than five complex >parameters. > >For the general quartic (nb. Requires patch Fractint 20.0.13 or more >recent): > >QuarticMandelbrot{ >;p1 is multiplier of z^4 >;p2 is multiplier of z^3 >;p3 is multiplier of z^2 >;p4 is multiplier of z >z=c=pixel: >z=p1*z*z*z*z+p2*z*z*z+p3*z*z+p4*z+c >|z|<=128 >} > >From, > >Rupert > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@fractint.org >Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint"