From: fractint-owner@xmission.com (fractint Digest) To: fractint-digest@xmission.com Subject: fractint Digest V1 #13 Reply-To: fractint@xmission.com Sender: fractint-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: fractint-owner@xmission.com Precedence: fractint Digest Friday, September 5 1997 Volume 01 : Number 013 In this issue: Re: (fractint) Printing (Justin/Jack) Re: (fractint) formula identification Re: (fractint) Julia bug? Re: (fractint) Printing (fractint) Microsoft C version 7.0 Re: (fractint) formula identification (fractint) Introducing myself (fractint) New Fractal Gallery (fractint) New Fractal G Re: (fractint) New Fractal G (fractint) Sylvie Gallet's web page (fractint) Printing (yes, again) (fractint) Picture view size Re: (fractint) Sylvie Gallet's web page Re: (fractint) New Fractal Gallery Re: (fractint) Picture view size Re: (fractint) New Fractal Gallery Re: (fractint) Picture view size Re: (fractint) New Fractal Gallery (fractint) New Fractal Gallery (fractint) [fractint] Egyptian pyramids, etal Re: (fractint) Sylvie Gallet's web page Re: (fractint) New Fractal Gallery Re: (fractint) New Fractal Gallery (fractint) Picture view size Re: (fractint) New Fractal Gallery (fractint) [fractint] oops! Another try! Egyptian frm and par files (fractint) [fractint] oops! Another try! Egyptian frm and par files [none] See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the fractint or fractint-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 17:33:53 -0400 From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Printing (Justin/Jack) At 03:29 PM 9/3/1997 -0500, you wrote: >I'm having the same Deskjet printing problems as Justin. As I'm new to >the list and to Fractint, please explain what is meant by 'windows port >of fractint'. > >TIA > >Jack Gill Hi. I am new to the list also, however I have been printing fractals for various purposes on my HP 660Cse for quite sometime. This is pretty much what I do, if it is any help: If I have constructed a fractal through fractint, I will save it as a .gif (smaller file than a .bmp) to the desktop (associated with LViewPro), and if desired make changes to the image if desired either in that program or another, then click on "edit" at top, "copy", bring up WordPad (or WordPerfect), click on Edit at top again, then paste. From there I will resize if putting on a postcard or using as kind of a logo thing on a piece of paper for letter writing, or to make a greeting card with - whatever, then click on "file" and "print". After which I then save the file (image) on 3.5 disk and remove the image file from the h/d. This is all under Win95. Hope this helps, and hope I did not waste anyone's time. - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 22:12:59 -0400 (EDT) From: ao950@freenet.carleton.ca (Paul Derbyshire) Subject: Re: (fractint) formula identification Description parts...hash counts... I dunno about you but it sounds simpler to me to just pick unique and imaginitive names. :-) In fact names based on your initials, and avoiding using a duplicate name yourself or doing any renaming, you can probably guarantee no duplications of other peoples' formula names too. Or a naming convention based on math could be done. Or, a hash count based on an actual value gnerated by the formula? Perhaps, a sample image in a 32x32 thumbnail kind can be calculated for some fixed values of p1, p2, p3, and the pixel range, and this can then be encoded into a hash? (The image would use maxit 2048, floating point yes, periodicity=no, and other options their defaults, outside=iter, inside=0.) - -- .*. Where feelings are concerned, answers are rarely simple [GeneDeWeese] -() < When I go to the theater, I always go straight to the "bag and mix" `*' bulk candy section...because variety is the spice of life... [me] Paul Derbyshire ao950@freenet.carleton.ca, http://chat.carleton.ca/~pderbysh - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 22:20:29 -0400 (EDT) From: ao950@freenet.carleton.ca (Paul Derbyshire) Subject: Re: (fractint) Julia bug? 2 ways. One is this: hit 'g', this pops up a dialog for entering commands to fractint's brain. (ProtoMatter will include a command console for similar purposes.) Type "periodicity=no" and enter. To put it back later do the same but use "yes" in place of "no". The other: copy this and paste it in notepad and save as a par file, like "periodic.par": - ----8<---- PeriodicityOff { periodicity=no } PeriodicityOn { periodicity=yes } - ----8<---- Then use @ to load one or the other, to switch it on or off. (Since this has no reset= in it, it won't do a whole new image the way normal par files do.) Tim: any chance Fractint 20.0 could make periodicity switchable on the 'x' screen like floating point? Also, how about allowing formula writers to specify a default for floating point and periodicity? That way formula writers can force fpu math, and can default periodicity off for formulas (like many rationals or formulas depending on earlier iterations of z) that tend to goof up with periodicity on. - -- .*. Where feelings are concerned, answers are rarely simple [GeneDeWeese] -() < When I go to the theater, I always go straight to the "bag and mix" `*' bulk candy section...because variety is the spice of life... [me] Paul Derbyshire ao950@freenet.carleton.ca, http://chat.carleton.ca/~pderbysh - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 20:46:51 -0700 From: Pierre Aubert Espenan Subject: Re: (fractint) Printing "Port" means that the authors of fractint didn't recode the whole DOS program from scratch---they reused large portions of the original DOS program and made some relatively small modifications in order to make fractint work under Windows. (Keep in mind that the DOS version still works fine under Windows if you aren't printing.) Winfract will save fractals in BMP format and from there Windows - ---using Paintbrush, for example---can print the fractal using the Windows print drivers that came with your printer. As already stated you can also use Paint Shop Pro to convert the default GIF format to BMP in order to print the fractal. Just go to http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/ibmpc/windows/winf1821.zip to get the latest version 18.21. - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 21:03:29 -0700 From: Pierre Aubert Espenan Subject: (fractint) Microsoft C version 7.0 I've been tinkering with some of the source code for fractint using Visual C++ version 5.0 which is not satisfactory since there are some keywords declared "obsolete" and other problems. The authors of fractint used Microsoft C version 7.0 to compile the source code but I can't find this version. Does anyone know where I could find this (old?) product? - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 11:21:20 +0000 From: Peter Otterstaetter Subject: Re: (fractint) formula identification George Martin wrote: > I'm always ready for new thinking! Perhaps you could give an example - h= ere > are two formulas, the second of which is a simple optimization of the > first. These formulas would produce identical images. Could you show wha= t > the "description part" of each of these formulas would be? Presumably it > would be such that if the formulas were written by different persons, th= e > description part would be the same. > > Example1 { > z =3D c =3D pixel: > z =3D z * z + sin(c) > |z| < 4 > } > > Example2 { > z =3D pixel > c =3D sin(pixel): > z =3D z * z + c > |z| < 4 > } OK, I will try it! In fact, Example1 and Example2 are two "implementations" of the same formula. So the "description" and "implementation" parts may look like: FORMULA { DESCRIPTION { z =3D c =3D pixel: z =3D z^2 + sin(c) |z| < 2 } IMPLEMENTATION { Example1 { z =3D c =3D pixel: z =3D z * z + sin(c) |z| < 4 } Example2 { z =3D pixel, c =3D sin(pixel): z =3D z * z + c |z| < 4 } } } Of course, it will be a hard task to create a "standard" for the description part! This part should be a mathematical one: we should replace "pixel" by a something like [(Xmin, Xmax),(Ymin,Ymax)] and we don't have care of optimizations etc. > recognizing that z =3D a*b is the same as z =3D b*a. Algebraic > equivalency becomes harder; recognizing the equivalence of such > expressions as (x+y)^2 and x^2+2*x*y+y^2 opens up a Pandora's box of > Goedelian proportions. To recognize such equivalences, algorithms used by good symbolic math programs would (hopefully) help; but I'm not an expert ... > Developing an algorithm to recognize the > equivalency of major rewrites such as with Carr2821 seems > unimaginable to me. There is no need to recognize rewrites or optimizations because this are "implementations"; just add it to the formula's implementation part (or exchange one implementation). To identify a formula, get the description part's hash count; if there is only one implementation, OK use it, otherwise, we have to decide which one FRACTINT should use. Or, FRACTINT uses always the first implementation and we exchange the implementations as we need them. Regards, Peter Otterst=E4tter - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Otterstaetter BASF Aktiengesellschaft Zentralbereich Informatik ZXA/U Anwendungsentwicklung D-67056 Ludwigshafen E-mail: peter.otterstaetter@zxa.basf-ag.de - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- All things come to those who wait. They come, but often come too late. From Lady Mary M. Curie: Tout Vient a Qui Sait Attendre (1890) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 16:34:05 +2 From: "J.P. Louvet" Subject: (fractint) Introducing myself Hi all, Some of you might know my Fractal album, with a large collection of fractals made with Fractint. I am very happy to discover this new mailing list. Many thanks to Tim. Can I download ( or perhaps somebody could forward me) the first contributions to this list ? - --------------------------------------------------------------- J.P. Louvet | Phone : (33)56-84-58-35 IUT Universite Bordeaux I | Fax : (33)56-84-58-29 33405 Talence CEDEX France | e-mail : louvet@iuta.u-bordeaux.fr - --------------------------------------------------------------- Fractales sur serveur Web Universite Bordeaux I : http://www.bdx1.u-bordeaux.fr/MAPBX/louvet/jpl0.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 18:21:22 -0400 From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) New Fractal Gallery Hi All, I'd like to invite everyone to visit my new fractal gallery at: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Sylvie_Gallet A French version of this page is available. Cheers, - Sylvie - -------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvie_Gallet@CompuServe.com http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/sylvie/gallet.html http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Sylvie_Gallet - -------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 18:54:56 -0400 From: Lee Skinner Subject: (fractint) New Fractal G Sylvie, There seems to be something wrong with your web page today. All I can get is the symbol for The Infinite Fractal Loop - and even that doesn't work! Lee - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 16:52:00 -0700 From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) New Fractal G Sylvie, I looked at the HTML source for your page. It is only a gif file. Not HTML. The problem is likely that we don't have the address of your home page. If might be something like this http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Sylvie_Gallet/index.html My homepage server defaults to a file named 'index.html' when one does not specify the file name. This does not work for yours. Hmmm... Jay - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 19:56:26 -0400 From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: (fractint) Sylvie Gallet's web page Lee, Yikes, it was fine yesterday and I stopped by and I see that too. Sylvie, what happened to your spiffy web page?!? Damien M. Jones / temporary sanity designs / http://www.emi.net/~dmj/ dmj@emi.net / my gallery: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/2605/ - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 19:00:05 -0500 From: Justin Kolodziej <4wg7kolodzie@vms.csd.mu.edu> Subject: (fractint) Printing (yes, again) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BCB964.C1525D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hate to bring this subject up again, but I needed time to render an = image to test my theory. As it turns out, the answer to my original = question was almost ridiculously simple: Just load your rendered GIF = into Winfrac and print it from there! If you don't have it, I'd advise = you to get it now, if for no other reason than to print your images that = you can't print from Fractint and to see what your extra-large images = (2048x2048) look like before you print or save them! On a related note: What happened to being able to control the size of = the printed image??? It was in there in an earlier release, I forgot = which one, but now it's gone! What happened? Justin Kolodziej=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BCB964.C1525D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 I hate to bring = this subject up=20 again, but I needed time to render an image to test my theory.  As = it turns=20 out, the answer to my original question was almost ridiculously simple: = Just=20 load your rendered GIF into Winfrac and print it from there!  If = you don't=20 have it, I'd advise you to get it now, if for no other reason than to = print your=20 images that you can't print from Fractint and to see what your = extra-large=20 images (2048x2048) look like before you print or save them!

On a related note: What = happened to=20 being able to control the size of the printed image???  It was in = there in=20 an earlier release, I forgot which one, but now it's gone! What = happened?

Justin=20 Kolodziej  - ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BCB964.C1525D80-- - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 20:37:59 -0400 (EDT) From: KivrynH@aol.com Subject: (fractint) Picture view size Okay, class, it's "dumb question" time. Who'll be fiirst? Hi y'all, Sounds like that's my cue. When I look at a fractal I've just finished making, while still in Fractint, I can't see as much of the fractal as I can of the saved image in a viewer. Why? Or, if that's too hard an answer for "dumb question" time, then maybe you could just tell me how to see what's really all there in Fractint. ;~) Kivryn - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 02:10:11 GMT From: dougowen@mindspring.com (Doug Owen) Subject: Re: (fractint) Sylvie Gallet's web page On Thu, 04 Sep 1997 19:56:26 -0400, you wrote: >Lee, > >Yikes, it was fine yesterday and I stopped by and I see that too. > >Sylvie, what happened to your spiffy web page?!? > >Damien M. Jones / temporary sanity designs / = http://www.emi.net/~dmj/ > dmj@emi.net / my gallery: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/2605/ > I don't know, folks. It's working just fine for me. I'm using MS IExplorer and haven't checked it with Netscape. The page is really nice. - --=20 Later....Doug....(-:} http://www.zenweb.com/rayn/doug Thanks to PAN for adding Doug's Gallery to Surreal RAYn http://members.tripod.com/~dlowen/index.html Typical Homepage Under Construction - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 22:34:32 -0400 (EDT) From: ao950@freenet.carleton.ca (Paul Derbyshire) Subject: Re: (fractint) New Fractal Gallery > >Hi All, > > I'd like to invite everyone to visit my new fractal gallery at: > > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Sylvie_Gallet Sounds cool. Hey...aren't you the one who got the Millenium 1600x1200x256 VESA mode working in Fractint? I love that mode for generating big detailed B/W/greyscale images for printing on laser printers. - -- .*. Where feelings are concerned, answers are rarely simple [GeneDeWeese] -() < When I go to the theater, I always go straight to the "bag and mix" `*' bulk candy section...because variety is the spice of life... [me] Paul Derbyshire ao950@freenet.carleton.ca, http://chat.carleton.ca/~pderbysh - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 21:36:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Angel Rivera Subject: Re: (fractint) Picture view size On Thu, 4 Sep 1997 KivrynH@aol.com wrote: > Sounds like that's my cue. When I look at a fractal I've just finished > making, while still in Fractint, I can't see as much of the fractal as I can > of the saved image in a viewer. Why? Or, if that's too hard an answer for > "dumb question" time, then maybe you could just tell me how to see what's > really all there in Fractint. ;~) I've seen this too-- a "full-screen" fractal in Fractint takes up *more* than a full screen when saved... Why, exactly? - -- H B. K. Nambo (who is feeling fractal deficiencies =@==== being away from his computer for about a month now...) H H H badger@innocent.com H H H - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 22:17:36 -0600 From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) New Fractal Gallery Sylvie wrote: > I'd like to invite everyone to visit my new fractal gallery at: > > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Sylvie_Gallet A few hours ago the page wasn't working, but now it is. maybe CIS's web server hiccoughed. Very nice page! Tim - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 22:25:32 -0600 From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Picture view size Angel wrote: > I've seen this too-- a "full-screen" fractal in Fractint takes up *more* > than a full screen when saved... Why, exactly? Could you please explain xactly what you do - what video mode you are using, and how you know the image is bigger than the screen. Are you talking about Winfract or Fractint? Winfract uses a virtual screen that doesn't have to match the actual screen. Also, Winfract is no longer supported and is frozen in time forever ... Tim - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 10:15:50 +0000 From: Peter Otterstaetter Subject: Re: (fractint) New Fractal Gallery > Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 18:21:22 -0400 > From: Sylvie Gallet > Subject: (fractint) New Fractal Gallery > To: Liste Fractint > Reply-to: fractint@mail.xmission.com > Hi All, > I'd like to invite everyone to visit my new fractal gallery at: > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Sylvie_Gallet Sylvie, many thanks for this great page! Peter Otterstaetter - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Otterstaetter BASF Aktiengesellschaft Zentralbereich Informatik ZXA/U Anwendungsentwicklung D-67056 Ludwigshafen E-mail: peter.otterstaetter@zxa.basf-ag.de - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- All things come to those who wait. They come, but often come too late. From Lady Mary M. Curie: Tout Vient a Qui Sait Attendre (1890) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 04:26:15 -0400 From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) New Fractal Gallery Lee, Damien, Jay et al, >> There seems to be something wrong with your web page today. All I >> can get is the symbol for The Infinite Fractal Loop - and even that >> doesn't work! I apologize!!! It looks like when I uploaded the IFL banner, I specifi= ed it as the default page instead of homepage.htm. The complete URL is: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Sylvie_Gallet/homepage.htm Thank you for your visit. Cheers, - Sylvie - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 09:05:58 -0700 From: "Mike or Linda Allison" Subject: (fractint) [fractint] Egyptian pyramids, etal Hi, all! Before Mike and I took off on our trip, Les StClair asked if I would post my frm file and some par files for my Egytian pyramid fractals. So, here they are . . . Enjoy! Linda (P.S. Boeff says "Woof!") http://www.geocities.com/~gumbycat (last partial update 9/3/97) http://www.fortunecity.com//tattooine/stephenson/5/abpf.html (the last 16 fractals uploaded to alt.binaries.pictures.fractals, last updated 9/2/97) gumbycat@ix.netcom.com(No Bulk Mail) ! - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 13:01:26 -0400 From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: Re: (fractint) Sylvie Gallet's web page Hi Doug, >> I don't know, folks. It's working just fine for me. I'm using MS >> IExplorer and haven't checked it with Netscape. = You've been lucky, you checked it just after I fixed the problem. >> The page is really nice. Thanks! Cheers, - Sylvie - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 13:01:23 -0400 From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: Re: (fractint) New Fractal Gallery Hi Tim, >> A few hours ago the page wasn't working, but now it is. maybe CIS's = >> web server hiccoughed. Sometimes, CIS works fine! :-) >> Very nice page! Thank you! Cheers, - Sylvie - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 13:01:21 -0400 From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: Re: (fractint) New Fractal Gallery Hi Peter, >> many thanks for this great page! = Glad you liked it. Thanks! Cheers, - Sylvie - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 13:01:30 -0400 From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) Picture view size Hi Kivryn, >> Sounds like that's my cue. When I look at a fractal I've just >> finished making, while still in Fractint, I can't see as much of the >> fractal as I can of the saved image in a viewer. Why? Or, if that's >> too hard an answer for "dumb question" time, then maybe you could just= >> tell me how to see what's really all there in Fractint. ;~) I have the same problem in Fractint and in my DOS viewer (QPV) with the= 800x600x256c VESA mode on my Millennium: the first lines are missing. No= problem when I display the same image at 800x600 with ACDSee for Win95 (b= ut Win95 doesn't seem to use VESA modes). - Sylvie - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 13:01:28 -0400 From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: Re: (fractint) New Fractal Gallery Hi Paul, >> Sounds cool. = Thanks! >> Hey...aren't you the one who got the Millenium 1600x1200x256 VESA mode= >> working in Fractint? I love that mode for generating big detailed >> B/W/greyscale images for printing on laser printers. Yes, it's me! I think that 1600x1200 is not necessarily the best resolution for making detailed prints. The size of the image must depend= on the resolution of the printer and the size of the print. Cheers, - Sylvie - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 13:44:52 -0700 From: "Mike or Linda Allison" Subject: (fractint) [fractint] oops! Another try! Egyptian frm and par files This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_01BCBA01.E313F1C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok . . . I'll try again! Here are the .frm and .par files that Les requested (I think!). Linda http://www.geocities.com/~gumbycat (last partial update 9/3/97) http://www.fortunecity.com//tattooine/stephenson/5/abpf.html (the last 16 fractals uploaded to alt.binaries.pictures.fractals, last updated 9/2/97) gumbycat@ix.netcom.com(No Bulk Mail) - ------=_NextPart_000_01BCBA01.E313F1C0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="egyptian.par" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: egyptian.par (Fractint PAR files) Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="egyptian.par" {;------------begin frm file------------ } 100296-005 { ;Linda Allison=20 z =3D pixel: z =3D (fn1(1/z ^ p3))/p1 + (fn2(1/z ^ p3))/p2 |z| <=3D .75 * p2 } {;------------begin par files---------- } pyramid1 { ; copyright Linda Allison 1996-1997 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com reset=3D1920 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dgumbycat.frm formulaname=3D100296-005 function=3Dsqr/abs passes=3Db center-mag=3D-21.6048/-9.39653/1.17295/1/-160 params=3D1000/-5/1/-0.5/4/-4 float=3Dy maxiter=3D5000 bailout=3D16 decomp=3D255 viewwindows=3D5/0.75/yes/0/0 = colors=3DQUW<6>cru<14>34S00P00O<14>000<15>yyf<14>_cgYahYbh<14>kxk<15>8F8<= 1\ = 5>fzz<15>0IE<14>LlvNozMlx<14>00N<15>znZ<15>M13<2>S8BVBEXEGZHJ`JM<8>tgk<1\= 4>gKGfIDdHD<13>A00<8>QUW } pyramid2 { ; copyright Linda Allison 1996-1997 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com reset=3D1920 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dgumbycat.frm formulaname=3D100296-005 function=3Dsqr/abs = center-mag=3D-20.14477361321762000/-6.42931584006586100/267.9619/0.8397/1= 1\ 7.499 params=3D1000/-5/1/0.5/4/-4 float=3Dy maxiter=3D5000 = bailout=3D16 decomp=3D256 viewwindows=3D5/0.75/yes/0/0 = colors=3DI8F400<7>900A00D33<14>zmm<12>LAAH77E44A00800<2>000I8F<8>OEKPFLQG= M\ = RHNRHOSIP<14>lyl<4>ThWPdSL`PHXLDTH<2>8QD4NC0KA<2>6H98F88F8<28>YSJZTK`VM<\= 10>zo`<15>0KA<15>0A1<15>mwn<15>05A<15>0cc<15>mmz<15>000<5>300 } pyramid3 { ; copyright Linda Allison 1996-1997 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com reset=3D1920 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dgumbycat.frm formulaname=3D100296-005 function=3Dsqr/abs passes=3Db center-mag=3D-20.1363/-6.43339/55.73607/0.8397/117.498 params=3D1000/-5/1/0.5/4/-4 float=3Dy maxiter=3D5000 bailout=3D16 = decomp=3D256 viewwindows=3D5/0.75/yes/0/0 = colors=3DIIrGZp<5>IFr<2>H5ZG1SH1R<8>Z9H`AG`AG<7>b6Bc5Ae8A<6>wUA<8>qq_ptbm= q\ = a<10>HOLELKDKJ<5>9DD8BB8BB9BCABDBBE<14>Fdt<15>H1R<13>xR7<16>zzb<16>xP5<6\= = >c5A<2>W6DU7ES8GQ9HNAJLBKLCMKEO<4>XSYZV_c`b<5>urnrplnmkikk<12>OI5<6>eYJg\= _LiaNkcPneR<3>xn_wm_vlZ<16>ADM<4>BRUBUWBXYB__CbaCec<4>Dtn<5>Fap } pyramid4 { ; copyright Linda Allison 1996-1997 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com reset=3D1920 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dgumbycat.frm formulaname=3D100296-005 function=3Dsqr/abs passes=3Db center-mag=3D-20.2975/-6.52285/3.622537/1/-152.498 params=3D1000/-5/1/0.5/4/-4 float=3Dy maxiter=3D5000 bailout=3D16 = decomp=3D255 viewwindows=3D5/0.75/yes/0/0 = colors=3Dwxfvwh<14>05A<15>hwz<15>000<15>mmz<15>M06<15>zee<15>A00<15>zxg<1= 3\ = >R88O45L00<15>z_K<12>kB4j93i72g50h83iB6<13>zvn<15>A07<15>ztxojm<13>8F818\= 0<10>hjYln`prctvfyzj } pyramid5 { ; copyright Linda Allison 1996-1997 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com reset=3D1920 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dgumbycat.frm formulaname=3D100296-005 function=3Dsqr/abs passes=3Db center-mag=3D-20.1388/-6.18865/1.535956/1/-152.5 params=3D1000/-5/1/0.5/4/-4 float=3Dy maxiter=3D5000 bailout=3D16 = decomp=3D255 viewwindows=3D5/0.75/yes/0/0 = colors=3De79c5A<5>xP5<7>thRskUrnXqq_ptb<11>HOMELKDKJ<5>9DD8BB8BB9BCABDBBE= <\ = 11>EZkE`nEbqFdtEaqEZn<9>C8K97F<2>9BFFD9EFA<11>svc<2>svc<10>RVWOSVLPUIMTF\= = JSFJS<6>bAEeCDgEC<2>rL8rL8uN7xP5<6>c5A<2>W6DU7ES8GQ9HNAJLBKLCMKEO<4>XSYZ\= = V_c`b<5>urnrplnmkikk<12>OI5<6>eYJg_LiaNkcPneR<3>xn_wm_vlZ<16>ADM<4>BRUBU\= WBXYB__CbaCec<4>Dtn<12>IFr<2>H5ZG1SH1R<15>lF8<2>g99 } shield1 { ; copyright Linda Allison 1996-1997 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com reset=3D1920 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dgumbycat.frm formulaname=3D100296-005 function=3Dsqr/abs passes=3Db center-mag=3D-20.3837/-6.68511/11.41063/1.3011/-152.499 params=3D1000/-5/1/0.5/4/-4 float=3Dy maxiter=3D5000 bailout=3D16 = decomp=3D256 viewwindows=3D5/1/yes/0/0 = colors=3D0CI000<6>0Uf<8>1Ac18c25b33a<10>D2G<12>zsz<10>L74<8>ohcsmgvqkzvpv= s\ = m<11>BB4<11>mwp<12>0EE<11>dzt<11>050<6>0go<7>2Ee2Bd27c33a53`73_<9>T1O<11\= = >zsz<10>OA1<8>pibsmgvqkzvpvsl<11>BB0<8>al`dqdguhjzmgwk<11>0EE<10>`zu<11>\= 355 } shield2 { ; copyright Linda Allison 1996-1997 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com reset=3D1920 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dgumbycat.frm formulaname=3D100296-005 function=3Dsqr/abs passes=3Db = center-mag=3D-20.14728765142225000/-6.43017342420052500/1785.17/1.2604/11= 7\ .5 params=3D1000/-5/1/0.5/4/-4 float=3Dy maxiter=3D5000 bailout=3D16 decomp=3D256 viewwindows=3D5/1/yes/0/0 = colors=3DAGIQFF<10>zmm<12>LAAH77E44A00800500<15>WQW<10>AGI<4>NVS<15>4D9<1= 5\ = >dzk<14>OOpMLqNLo<9>XJbYI`ZI__HYZGW<13>C23A00A10<13>AHBBJCBKCBLCCMD<11>m\= wn<15>05A<14>OTWQVXRWYTYZVZ_<12>pto<15>000<14>900A00D33<2>NCC } shield3 { ; copyright Linda Allison 1996-1997 ; gumbycat@ix.netcom.com reset=3D1920 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dgumbycat.frm formulaname=3D100296-005 function=3Dsqr/abs passes=3Db center-mag=3D-20.2308/-6.38475/8.564297/1.2017/-152.498 params=3D1000/-5/1/0.5/4/-4 float=3Dy maxiter=3D5000 bailout=3D16 = decomp=3D256 viewwindows=3D5/1/yes/0/0 = colors=3D000<4>000000110221<38>ilYjmZkn_mp`lo_kmZ<31>222000001<27>JGTKHUK= H\ = T<27>111000000000<3>000011032<27>Amc<25>255143122000000000000000<16>XgcZ\= je`mhbpjdsmAmc<14>297265133000000 } - ------=_NextPart_000_01BCBA01.E313F1C0-- - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 19:28:56 -0400 From: Les St Clair Subject: (fractint) [fractint] oops! Another try! Egyptian frm and par files >>Here are the .frm and .par files that Les requested<< Thanks Linda, They're unique and wonderful! - - Les - ------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 19:51:12 -0700 From: "Peter Jakubowicz" Subject: [none] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BCBA35.10000100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, This is not a Fractint question but I am wondering if someone can = take a shot at it. I have been bopping around a lot to look at people's = fractal galleries, looking for some new ideas, etc., and somewhere heard = about alt.binaries.pictures.fractals. It was not available on my server, = so I called and got the guy to agree reluctantly to add it after = explaining to him what the Mandelbrot set is, etc. Now they were under = the impression it contained pornographic material, which I thought would = be kind of weird for a fractal gallery. So, anyway, I've been checking = it out every day and finding some cool stuff there but also some = unexpected things. Can anyone please explain (I'm really new to the = internet, so maybe I sound like an idiot) why there are XXX messages, = whatever those are, credit card advertisements for people with bad = credit, and so forth, at a fractal gallery. I am in favor of free = expression on the 'net and am not a crank or anything (at least I hope = not) but this is just something that's been puzzling me. And now this is a Fractint question: when I run my demo program, = which I actually find quite helpful, it freezes after printing an image = of the Mandlebrot set (it's on the second demo file, I believe). Is it = my computer, or should I go look through the source code? thanks and i = apologize if i've asked anything really dumb, Peter Jakubowicz =20 =20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BCBA35.10000100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

    = This is not a=20 Fractint question but I am wondering if someone can take a shot at it. I = have=20 been bopping around a lot to look at people's fractal galleries, looking = for=20 some new ideas, etc., and somewhere heard about = alt.binaries.pictures.fractals.=20 It was not available on my server, so I called and got the guy to agree=20 reluctantly to add it after explaining to him what the Mandelbrot set = is, etc.=20 Now they were under the impression it contained pornographic material, = which I=20 thought would be kind of weird for a fractal gallery. So, anyway, I've = been=20 checking it out every day and finding some cool stuff there but also = some=20 unexpected things. Can anyone please explain (I'm really new to the = internet, so=20 maybe I sound like an idiot) why there are XXX messages, whatever those = are,=20 credit card advertisements for people with bad credit, and so forth, at = a=20 fractal gallery. I am in favor of free expression on the 'net and am not = a crank=20 or anything (at least I hope not) but this is just something that's been = puzzling me.

    = And now this=20 is a Fractint question: when I run my demo program, which I actually = find quite=20 helpful, it freezes after printing an image of the Mandlebrot set (it's = on the=20 second demo file, I believe). Is it my computer, or should I go look = through the=20 source code?

         &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;    =20 thanks and i apologize if i've asked anything really dumb, Peter=20 Jakubowicz

  

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