From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: List Glitch - Please Read Date: 01 Sep 1996 14:13:03 -0600 (MDT) Hi everybody -- Sometime this past Thursday morning, the subscriber list for 'hats' got glitched. I've restored everyone from backup and am including the messages that went out to the list in the meantime. My apologies for the inconvenience. > From: Laurel > Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:49:30 -0500 (CDT) > Subject: introduction and curiousity... > > Hi. My name is Laurel Palmer and I am a big MWH fan. I suppose that > goes without saying being as I am subscribed to this list. > > Just curious to see if there is anyone out there... > > Laurel > > O- > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? > # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. > > ------------------------------ > > From: heidi@bronze.lcs.mit.edu (Heidi) > Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 14:13:34 -0400 > Subject: Hats poster for sale > > I have a poster of Hats on stage from a ROY concert that I'd like to > sell. I don't remember what I paid for it, so if you're interested in > it, just make me an offer. I don't how much postage will be or the cost > of a poster tube yet, so figure that's extra and I'll find out during > the week. If you're interested reply to me at heidi@world.std.com, not > the whole list. (no that's not a typo, it's just a different address > then the one I read the list on.) > > =}{= > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? > # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. > > ------------------------------ > > From: Carl > Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 20:28:12 +0000 > Subject: Oglio MWH 2 for 1 News > > I just love to play good news-bad news with you guys. ;-) > > GOOD NEWS: The MWH Roy/Folk 2 for 1 will be released during the next six > months. > > BAD NEWS: We were unable to reach a compromise with the US licensor for > the US territory. The CD will likely first appear in Europe or another > overseas country. > > Details have yet to be determined but the tracks will most likely > include those already discussed. Packaging will be similar to our > previous 2for1 series releases. > > For those of us in the US and Canada we will have to rely on friends > outside North America for our copies for now. > > I know it sucks. I tried to work for a worldwide release but it is just > not meant to happen. This is the first public announcement. Tell your > friends! :-) > > Carl @ Oglio Records > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? > # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Subject: Oglio MWH 2 for 1 News Date: 01 Sep 1996 16:44:13 +0000 I just love to play good news-bad news with you guys. ;-) GOOD NEWS: The MWH Roy/Folk 2 for 1 will be released during the next six months. BAD NEWS: We were unable to reach a compromise with the US licensor for the US territory. The CD will likely first appear in Europe or another overseas country. Details have yet to be determined but the tracks will most likely include those already discussed. Packaging will be similar to our previous 2for1 series releases. For those of us in the US and Canada we will have to rely on friends outside North America for our copies for now. I know it sucks. I tried to work for a worldwide release but it is just not meant to happen. This is the first public announcement. Tell your friends! :-) Carl @ Oglio Records # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Norman Subject: videotape - no progress Date: 02 Sep 1996 21:41:08 -0400 Hi all, I am waiting for the last 3 tapes. They are all supposedly in the mail. I'll keep my fingers crossed. I'll give another REAL update , when I actually have something to report to the list. Should be getting the last tapes this week, so its almost time to start recording for all. Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BDay0000@aol.com Subject: Re: Oglio MWH 2 for 1 News Date: 02 Sep 1996 22:05:24 -0400 Carl, Can the US order the 2fer directly from Oglio? Won't you help us find a loophole? Brad Day Atlanta, GA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Subject: Re: Oglio MWH 2 for 1 News Date: 03 Sep 1996 07:36:08 -0800 BDay0000@aol.com wrote: > > Carl, > > Can the US order the 2fer directly from Oglio? Won't you help us find a > loophole? > > Brad Day > Atlanta, GA > That is the toughest part. I would be violating US law if I made even a single sale to anyone in the US. The law is clear on this issue and I value my relationship with MCA even if we were not able to agree on a US license. I can sell to anyone outside the USA if there is anyone interested out there. I'll let you all know when the CDs are available once we get closer to the release date. Carl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Rossi Subject: What about Canada? Date: 03 Sep 1996 11:49:47 -0400 (EDT) > I can sell to anyone outside the USA if there is anyone interested out > there. I'll let you all know when the CDs are available once we get > Carl What about selling to someone in Canada? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Norman Subject: Videotape Progress Date: 03 Sep 1996 17:16:35 -0500 OK. I just got Mike's "Pop Goes the World" segment from Top of the Pops. This is better that the "SOLID GOLD" footage because Ivan is actually singing. Don't worry I will include both performances. It's going to be a 2 hour tape. Come to think of it, I will have 4 Pop Goes the World. 1. solid gold 2. top of the pops 3. video from the record guide w/ Ivan discussing it 4. Laserdisc full video The way I see it, I want as much footage as possible and there is room for all. I will include everything I get, don't worry. OK, I need some advice (a vote?) from all of you. Mike W. just e-mailed me with a good point. He suggested that I should make a MASTER copy tape first before making all of these copies. He suggested that our tapes , that were sent in, will start to wear. I feel that I should go ahead and do what I set out to do -- make individual MASTER tapes for all of us. This way, I can do this for the first 30 people maybe, before sending all the original tapes back (i think less than 30 of us want one). Then we can ALL have a second generation tape and not just ME. Then all of us can make 500 copies from our tapes, and everyone can have a tape that wants one. Also my VCR heads won't get worn down that bad. I can do under 50 tapes like this, not 300. Also: Jim D. suggested that my e-mail address be posted as a link to the MWH page, so others can e-mail me for the video. NO. On the other hand, a hand full of us could do this (me too), so MORE hats fans can get copies. I don't want to keep all your original tapes for more than a month -> TOPS. Does this make sense? What do all of you think? Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Vickers Subject: Re: Oglio MWH 2 for 1 News Date: 04 Sep 1996 16:40:08 -0400 (EDT) On Sun, 1 Sep 1996, Carl wrote: > I just love to play good news-bad news with you guys. ;-) > > GOOD NEWS: The MWH Roy/Folk 2 for 1 will be released during the next six > months. > > BAD NEWS: We were unable to reach a compromise with the US licensor for > the US territory. The CD will likely first appear in Europe or another > overseas country. > > Details have yet to be determined but the tracks will most likely > include those already discussed. Packaging will be similar to our > previous 2for1 series releases. > > For those of us in the US and Canada we will have to rely on friends > outside North America for our copies for now. > > I know it sucks. I tried to work for a worldwide release but it is just > not meant to happen. This is the first public announcement. Tell your > friends! :-) > > Carl @ Oglio Records I know that Collection was released in Canada only as an import from MCA/Oglio in the States, but isn't it possible that the 2in1 might be released in Canada, seperately from the U.S., just as Sideways was only released in Canada? I know, I know!!!... Canadian right are negotiated along with the U.S. ones. I hate this shit!!! Are there other Canadian MWH fans out there who resent being considered as just a sub-market of the U.S.? Disdainfully, Michael ************************************************************************* Michael Howland Balewa Vickers mvickers@yorku.ca, Toronto, Canada ************************************************************************* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Vickers Subject: Re: Oglio MWH 2 for 1 News Date: 04 Sep 1996 16:47:48 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Carl wrote: > BDay0000@aol.com wrote: > > > > Carl, > > > > Can the US order the 2fer directly from Oglio? Won't you help us find a > > loophole? > > > > Brad Day > > Atlanta, GA > > > > That is the toughest part. I would be violating US law if I made even a > single sale to anyone in the US. The law is clear on this issue and I > value my relationship with MCA even if we were not able to agree on a US > license. > > I can sell to anyone outside the USA if there is anyone interested out > there. I'll let you all know when the CDs are available once we get > closer to the release date. > Carl Does that mean that we can get it in Canada? THe last time I checked, that was the neme on my money... not U.S.A.! I know that Canada is traditionally considered as part of the U.S. market, but does your agreement with MCA stipulate no release in the U.S. only, or within the American SPhere of Imperial Infleunce (sic), i.e. Anglo North America? I know these things are not in your control... but I'm just belly-aching! Canadianly, Michael ************************************************************************* Michael Howland Balewa Vickers mvickers@yorku.ca, Toronto, Canada ************************************************************************* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Subject: Re: What about Canada? Date: 03 Sep 1996 13:25:19 -0800 Danny Rossi wrote: > > > I can sell to anyone outside the USA if there is anyone interested out > > there. I'll let you all know when the CDs are available once we get > > Carl > > What about selling to someone in Canada? > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? > # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. Sorry, I should have said North America in my last post instead of The USA. I do not have Canadian rights locked up just yet. Carl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: barnard@forge.franken.de (Henning Schmiedehausen) Subject: Re: Oglio MWH 2 for 1 News Date: 02 Sep 1996 09:13:21 +0200 info@oglio.com (Carl) writes: >BAD NEWS: We were unable to reach a compromise with the US licensor for >the US territory. The CD will likely first appear in Europe or another >overseas country. Don't think of this as 'bad news' ;-) [ YES! Finally Germany is once on the better end. ;-) ] Ciao Henning >For those of us in the US and Canada we will have to rely on friends >outside North America for our copies for now. Sure. That's what friends are for. [ Hi Laura! ;-) ] -- Henning Schmiedehausen ...side by side in orbit... around a fairer SUN. barnard@forge.franken.de http://www.franken.de/users/forge/henning "Schickte ich jedem Verfasser eines News-Artikels, der mich langweilt, eine Mail-Bombe, reichten 155 Mbit/s nicht aus." -- Ralph Babel in <55117eM@babylon.pfm-mainz.de> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARBOWSKI JR CHARLES R Date: 05 Sep 1996 15:33:26 -0400 (EDT) Well hello again all, I'm finally back on the list after a summer away. Anything really important come up over the summer I might have missed? Also Mike Best if you're still out there E-mail me! Glad to be back on the list. Take care all. Zeus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Norman Subject: Videotape - progress Date: 08 Sep 1996 12:01:20 -0400 Hi all, I just received a laserdisc copy of "Pop Goes the World" (thanks - got your return address for compilation tape). We now have: Safety Dance I Like Pop Goes the World (laser quality) Moonbeam (could be better) In the 21st Century Hey Men On the way: Sideways vid + segments of Sideways concerts around Canada Possibly on the way: Safety Dance (laser quality) Where Do the Boys Go (laser quality) Wanted: Much Music or Musique Plus "Spotlight" episodes for MWH I'll wait a wee bit longer for this one, but If no one speaks up, I'll begin the copies w/out it. P.S. - Greg (shriekman@aol.com) - please send your Safety & WDTBG laser copies Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Subject: Re: Oglio MWH 2 for 1 News Date: 04 Sep 1996 14:15:53 -0800 > I know that Collection was released in Canada only as an import from > MCA/Oglio in the States, but isn't it possible that the 2in1 might > be released in Canada, seperately from the U.S., just as Sideways was only > released in Canada? > > I know, I know!!!... Canadian right are negotiated along with the U.S. > ones. > I hate this shit!!! Are there other Canadian MWH fans out there who > resent being considered as just a sub-market of the U.S.? > > Disdainfully, > Michael Canada is treated as a different territory for this negotiation. Canada may fall into place before the USA but who knows? Europe looks like they will be first. Carl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Gamble Subject: Re: Oglio MWH 2 for 1 News -Reply Date: 09 Sep 1996 09:01:54 -0600 >>Canada is treated as a different territory for this negotiation. Canada may fall into place before the USA but who knows? Europe looks like they will be first.<< What about Australia? I've had good luck mail-ordering CDs from a couple places there. Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Subject: Re: Oglio MWH 2 for 1 News -Reply Date: 09 Sep 1996 08:33:35 -0800 > > What about Australia? I've had good luck mail-ordering CDs > from a couple places there. > > Kevin > Australia is a strong possibility. We are contacting distribs there now. Carl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alex Aymerich" Subject: MWH in London Date: 09 Sep 1996 18:55:40 +-200 Hello, my first message here... I am going to travel to London, and I want to know where I can buy the largest collection of MWH, I have: Rythm of youth In the 21st Century Pop goes the world All of them in casette, so I want to buy in CD... I hear about Virgin Megastore, but If anyone knows other shop, I would be very pleased. Thank you all... MWH forever!!! Alex alex@redestb.es # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Norman Subject: update- the video nearly done Date: 09 Sep 1996 22:22:07 -0400 Hi hats fans, It might only be another week now before I begin recording. Just received: Sideways video (near perfect quality!) Sideways Musique Plus interview w/ Sideways concert footage I was wondering..... was this the show at Les Foufonnes Electriques that was supposedly the concert of the year in Montreal (where they did a 15 min. version of Safety Dance and the whole club went nuts) - cool OK back to the tape.... on the way: Where Do the Boys Go and Safety Dance videos recorded right off laserdisc, Thanks Greg! There is also going to be a BIG BIG surprise that will be on the end of the tape. Some of you might be able to figure out what it is. hint: its gonna make the video take the whole 2 hrs. Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brent Francis England Subject: re:video Date: 09 Sep 1996 23:02:05 -0400 Tom Norman, I am praying daily that everything goes along well for you to start recording soon. My brother and I (esp. my brother) are big MwH fans, and I would love to be able to get him the video for his birthday. Peace and good luck! Brent England # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: swooldri@mlsma.mlm.lucent.com Subject: Re: Videotape Progress Date: 10 Sep 1996 11:15:00 +0100 Is there a list of who is up for this tape so far? I only ask coz I e-mailed Tom last week asking to be added but didn`t get a reply so I`m not sure if my e-mail got through. ttfn, Si ******************************************* * Si Wooldridge * * Senior Systems Equipment Engineer * * Lucent Technologies Network Systems UK * * Wiltshire * * England * * * * Tel: +44 1666 832766 * * Fax: +44 1666 832992 * * E-mail: swooldri@lucent.com * ******************************************* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Norman Subject: Re: Videotape Progress Date: 10 Sep 1996 16:14:39 -0400 At 11:15 AM 9/10/96 +0100, you wrote: >Is there a list of who is up for this tape so far? > >I only ask coz I e-mailed Tom last week asking to be added but didn`t get >a reply so I`m not sure if my e-mail got through. > >ttfn, > >Si > >******************************************* >* Si Wooldridge * >* Senior Systems Equipment Engineer * >* Lucent Technologies Network Systems UK * >* Wiltshire * >* England * >* * >* Tel: +44 1666 832766 * >* Fax: +44 1666 832992 * >* E-mail: swooldri@lucent.com * >******************************************* > Si, Don't worry my friend, I got your e-mail. Everyone else who didn't get a response, I probably got all your "include me for the tape" e-mail messages. I just didn't feel like responding to 50 people at once. Lets all wait until I actually start recording, before sending me "count me in" e-mail. Just to calm everyone's nerves who wants a copy, I will do my best to make as many copies as time permits, once I have all the master tapes. I plan to record the first few copies for the people who sent in contributions (free tape). Then I will announce that I will begin recording for everyone else, $10 US (a wee bit more out of the states). At that time, I will begin reading e-mail from people who want a copy. Only when I have a tape ready to go, will I return your e-mail and say, "its ready to go". By this time i've already got YOUR tape done and YOUR envelope with your address on it. Then i'll mail it out to you. I would like to mail out a copy to EVERYONE on the list who wants one. I just hope that I don't get over 100 people demanding a tape. My VCR heads will begin frowning on me. And so will those rare master VHS tapes everyone is sending in. If I can't fill everyone's order, I would honestly hope that the people w/ the first few tapes will begin copying for others as well. The more copies everyone else makes, the less copies I have to make. THIS IS WHY I AM RECORDING EVERY TAPE INDIVIDUALLY FROM EACH OF THE MASTER TAPES. So the copies will be like a MASTER tape itself. Consider the fact that I could put A tape together (1st generation). Then I could use that 1st gen. tape to make everyone else's (2nd generation) tape. I AM NOT DOING IT LIKE THIS. This is so all of you can make multiple 2nd generation tapes yourselves. I do admit that the tapes that I make will be a bit better quality than the (next generation) copy. But I could have made it easier for myself and just given everyone a (next generation) copy. Note to the contributers: As soon as someone decides that they want their master tape back, I will send them all back (MWH material on video is priceless, isn't it). If I didn't do this it would violate my trust. At that time, I will still continue to make copies, but from my personal tape. Hopefully, the contributers will give me about 3 weeks to make everyone's tape before asking me to return them. But it is up to all of them. The last thing I will, after I'm done, is return the original tapes (free of charge of course). I do understand that I will have to send the contributers 2 packages a piece : first, the final tape; second, their original tapes. The $10 from everyone else should cover this (it will cost me about $7 a tape- expenses $3 profit to cover contributers return mail). Like Mike Best, I don't want to profit from this. My goal is to spread MWH videos as far as possible, for all. The bottom line: If I don't record tapes for everyone who wants one, I don't break even. I have planned it this way so A. people will contribute B. I make tapes for all Does this put everyone at ease now? suggestions from any of you???? Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Norman Subject: Re: MWH in London Date: 10 Sep 1996 16:22:39 -0400 At 06:55 PM 9/9/96 +-200, you wrote: >Hello, my first message here... > >I am going to travel to London, and I want to know where I can buy the largest collection of MWH, I have: > >Rythm of youth >In the 21st Century >Pop goes the world > >All of them in casette, so I want to buy in CD... I hear about Virgin Megastore, but If anyone knows other shop, I would be very pleased. > >Thank you all... MWH forever!!! > >Alex > >alex@redestb.es Alex, My advice to you is to go to the HMV MEGASTORE on Oxford St. Beware. There are two HMVs on Oxford, a small one and a big one. Go to the big one. Every time I've been there, I've seen all CDs in print 1. Pop Goes The World 2. In the 21st Century 3. Sideways PS: the import section Remember, Oglio records is rereleasing Rythym of Youth and Folk of the Eighties III on one CD in a few months. If you really want it all, you could even order the "rare" boot CD with the FREEWAYS album on it from Mike Best. Then you could have them ALL on CD. Too bad Freeways wasn't originally released on CD..... Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: smoky3@ix.netcom.com (Christofer Evangelista) Subject: CD time limit Date: 10 Sep 1996 15:10:30 -0700 Reading some of the recent articles about dumping antarctica cause of the 74 minute time limit, I remember reading about a CD manufactuer [Eurodisc] that allows an album to go up to 79 minutes (there is an extra fee though.) I wondered, if the 2 for 1 CD went to 79 mins, would there be enough room to include things like Security or Freeways. Just an idea since its hard to find these songs. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Kramer Subject: I survived Fran!! Date: 10 Sep 1996 18:42:29 -0700 Hi Hatters!! Laura from North Carolina here (usually Laura_Kramer@ncsu.edu) Don't believe everything you read in the "from" line - I have not yet convinced my husband to like MWH, but we now have e-mail at home. A good thing, too, since Hurricane Fran knocked out our communications link at work (i.e., no e-mail, no Net, no nothing. We're glad to have phones right now). Just wanted to drop a quick line to let everyone know we made it through relatively unscathed. The eye of the storm went right over Raleigh, where I work. We live about 35 miles west of where the worst of it was, so we lost shingles off the roof, several branches, and all electrical power for 3 days. We were better off than most - we didn't have trees down, and we kept both our water and phone service throughout. We're all still alive, and have 4 walls and most of a roof over our heads. Anyone else on the list in the Caribbean or the US who got hit? Sorry if this is "old hat," so to speak ;-) but as I said, I've been out of the loop since Thursday... Now if Hortense will just go someplace else, we ought to be OK... :-) Laura # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jupiter-8@juno.com (Rod MacQuarrie) Subject: Re: MWH in London Date: 10 Sep 1996 17:45:46 PST Is Mike Best's rare boot CD done yet? Count me in!!! Please!!! Rod On Tue, 10 Sep 1996 16:22:39 -0400 Thomas Norman writes: >At 06:55 PM 9/9/96 +-200, you wrote: >>Hello, my first message here... >> >>I am going to travel to London, and I want to know where I can buy >the >largest collection of MWH, I have: >> >>Rythm of youth >>In the 21st Century >>Pop goes the world >> >>All of them in casette, so I want to buy in CD... I hear about Virgin >Megastore, but If anyone knows other shop, I would be very pleased. >> >>Thank you all... MWH forever!!! >> >>Alex >> >>alex@redestb.es >Alex, My advice to you is to go to the HMV MEGASTORE on Oxford St. >Beware. >There are two HMVs on Oxford, a small one and a big one. Go to the >big one. >Every time I've been there, I've seen all CDs in print 1. Pop Goes The >World > 2. In the 21st >Century > 3. Sideways >PS: the import section > > >Remember, Oglio records is rereleasing Rythym of Youth and Folk of >the >Eighties III on one CD in a few months. If you really want it all, >you >could even order the "rare" boot CD with the FREEWAYS album on it from >Mike >Best. Then you could have them ALL on CD. Too bad Freeways wasn't >originally released on CD..... >Tom >tnorman@mail.netwalk.com > > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJP1313@aol.com Subject: Re: MWH in London Date: 10 Sep 1996 23:37:26 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-10 16:23:10 EDT, you write: << Remember, Oglio records is rereleasing Rythym of Youth and Folk of the Eighties III on one CD in a few months. If you really want it all, you could even order the "rare" boot CD with the FREEWAYS album on it from Mike Best. Then you could have them ALL on CD. Too bad Freeways wasn't originally released on CD..... >> Being rather new to this list, I've never heard about this CD with FREEWAYS on it. Can anyone tell me how I could go about getting a copy? Also, I remember someone mentioning that "Folk of the Eighties" was never released on CD. Well, I have an Italian CD of "Rhythm of Youth" with the FOTE tracks added on it. I found it in Florence in 1990. I have no idea how you'd find a copy today. -Andrew Pepoy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Hopman Subject: Re: MWH in London Date: 11 Sep 1996 10:39:50 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 10 Sep 1996 AJP1313@aol.com wrote: > Being rather new to this list, I've never heard about this CD with FREEWAYS > on it. Can anyone tell me how I could go about getting a copy? > Also, I remember someone mentioning that "Folk of the Eighties" was never > released on CD. Well, I have an Italian CD of "Rhythm of Youth" with the FOTE > tracks added on it. I found it in Florence in 1990. I have no idea how you'd > find a copy today. > -Andrew Pepoy Could you please look up the label and catalog number information on your CD- is it actually an Italian pressing or just one of the Statik pressing that you bought in Italy... dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJP1313@aol.com Subject: Re: MWH in London Date: 11 Sep 1996 14:20:28 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-11 13:43:41 EDT, you write: << > Also, I remember someone mentioning that "Folk of the Eighties" was never > released on CD. Well, I have an Italian CD of "Rhythm of Youth" with the FOTE > tracks added on it. I found it in Florence in 1990. I have no idea how you'd > find a copy today. > -Andrew Pepoy Could you please look up the label and catalog number information on your CD- is it actually an Italian pressing or just one of the Statik pressing that you bought in Italy... >> It's CDST 10(DIDZ 10072) on Statik Records. Any info on the bootleg? -Andrew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Rossi Subject: Re: MWH in London Date: 11 Sep 1996 18:27:16 -0400 (EDT) > released on CD. Well, I have an Italian CD of "Rhythm of Youth" with the FOTE > tracks added on it. I found it in Florence in 1990. I have no idea how you'd > find a copy today. Hm, this brings to mind something. When they say only 500 copies of the RoY CD was pressed, does that mean only Canada? Could there be more out there for us to add to our collection? ...................................suReAl!.................................... ae752@freenet.toronto.on.ca Daniele Rossi (That's MISTER to you!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Rossi Subject: 500 RoY CDs and I don't have one :( Date: 12 Sep 1996 14:45:44 -0400 (EDT) > In article <517efn$56c@news.inc.net> you wrote: > : Hm, this brings to mind something. When they say only 500 copies of the > : RoY CD was pressed, does that mean only Canada? Could there be more out > : there for us to add to our collection? > > I confirmed with an ex-employee of Statik that there were only 500 total > copies of the disc pressed. (Same with FOT80s). > > (Feel free to repost this if you like.) Ok. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARBOWSKI JR CHARLES R Subject: video Date: 12 Sep 1996 12:12:42 -0400 (EDT) Having not received the list over the summer, the video that I hear is being recorded is new to me. If the person producing this video would care to e-mail me directly with information on it, how much it's going to cost, and availability I'd appreciate it. Charlie Garbowski # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Norman Subject: Videotape is COMPLETE! Date: 12 Sep 1996 19:10:01 -0400 OK. This is the message you have all been waiting for! I am currently recording the first tape right now! Everybody who wants one, send me e-mail with your address. Please don't send me your $10 until I have confirmed that there is a copy ready to go (with your name on it). I have just completely cleared my mailbox, so if you sent me e-mail saying that you want a tape, send it again! Please format it as such: 1. Name 2. mailing address 3. country you live in (TV color standard if known) Don't worry, if you are in the USA or CANADA, don't put TV SYSTEM. Its NTSC by the way. Don't worry, if you are in another part of the world, I can find out what your system is. It would be quicker if you tell me, though. This might take me a while. I think I can only do about one tape a day. I will do as many as i can, don't worry. PS: Thanks Greg! I got your tapes and will baby them! Everyone! This tape is going to knock your socks off! I am in awe right now as I am recording the 1st tape. Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Caldwell Subject: RE: Videotape is COMPLETE! Date: 12 Sep 1996 16:14:42 -0700 1. Name : David Caldwell 2. mailing address : 1354 East Interlaken Blvd. Seattle, WA 98102 3. country you live in (TV color standard if known) USA/NTSC (Hey, what are you looking at PAL?) :) >---------- >From: Thomas Norman[SMTP:tnorman@netwalk.com] >Sent: Thursday, September 12, 1996 4:10 PM >To: hats@xmission.com >Subject: Videotape is COMPLETE! > >OK. This is the message you have all been waiting for! I am currently >recording the first tape right now! Everybody who wants one, send me >e-mail with your address. Please don't send me your $10 until I have >confirmed that there is a copy ready to go (with your name on it). I have >just completely cleared my mailbox, so if you sent me e-mail saying that you >want a tape, send it again! > Please format it as such: 1. Name > 2. mailing address > 3. country you live in (TV color standard if >known) > >Don't worry, if you are in the USA or CANADA, don't put TV SYSTEM. Its NTSC >by the way. > Don't worry, if you are in another part of the world, I can find out >what your system is. It would be quicker if you tell me, though. > >This might take me a while. I think I can only do about one tape a day. I >will do as many as i can, don't worry. > >PS: Thanks Greg! I got your tapes and will baby them! > >Everyone! This tape is going to knock your socks off! I am in awe right >now as I am recording the 1st tape. >Tom >tnorman@mail.netwalk.com > > > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Jordan Subject: Hello Date: 12 Sep 1996 21:57:17 -0400 I'm Ben, a big Men W/O Hats fan (new to the "club"). I've seen a couple messages about bootleg CD's and a video, I'd be interested to hear about them and how I could get copies. Also Ogligo (something like that) is making a CD with FOT80's and RoY on it... I hear it's only being released in Europe, info on how I could get that would be great! A bit of info. I saw 2 copies of FOT80's on CD in Bangor, Maine back in 1990. I was just a poor college student without a CD player at the time. I went back 2 weeks later to pick up a copy anyway and they had been sent away to some CD discount place with no further information. So close but yet so far away, I've spent the last 6 years searching for them! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Davis Subject: Re: Oglio MWH 2 for 1 News Date: 12 Sep 1996 22:14:02 -0700 Carl wrote: > > GOOD NEWS: The MWH Roy/Folk 2 for 1 will be released during the next six > months. Definitely good to hear.. but will the tracks be remastered?? Jim mailto:goreal@oz.net | http://www.goreal.net/~goreal/menwithouthats "Buy the Sky/Sell the Sky/& life your arms up to the Sky" -REM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Scott Shirk Subject: Re: Videotape is COMPLETE! Date: 13 Sep 1996 08:58:51 -0400 HI!!!! YES, I definitely Want a MWH VIDEOTAPE!!!! MIKE SHIRK 346 WALNUT ST. DENVER, PA 17517 USA E-MAIL: Mshirk@ptd.net just tell me when you want the check sent, and I'll send it out!!!! THANKS # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Subject: Re: Oglio MWH 2 for 1 News Date: 13 Sep 1996 06:54:30 -0800 James Davis wrote: > > Carl wrote: > > > > GOOD NEWS: The MWH Roy/Folk 2 for 1 will be released during the next six > > months. > > Definitely good to hear.. but will the tracks be remastered?? > > Jim "Remastered" implies that we would go back to the multitrack source tapes. We will go back as far as the original two track stereo master tapes. It will sound better that the original CDs that were made in the '80s. Carl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Videotape is COMPLETE! Date: 13 Sep 1996 13:39:01 -0600 (MDT) > Everybody who wants one, send me e-mail with your address. Please remember to email *Thomas*, not the list. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Caldwell Subject: RE: Videotape is COMPLETE! Date: 13 Sep 1996 13:50:20 -0700 Sorry I did this yesterday SIGH! For some reason, the Reply to in the header is hats@xmission.com rather than the sender. I thought that on the "new" list we really did reply to the sender of the message rather than the entire mailing list. I realized my mistake when I got the message from the list, oops! Still looking forward to the video and thanks so much for doing it Thomas! David >---------- >From: Lazlo Nibble[SMTP:lazlo@swcp.com] >Sent: Friday, September 13, 1996 12:39 PM >To: hats@xmission.com >Subject: Videotape is COMPLETE! > >> Everybody who wants one, send me e-mail with your address. > >Please remember to email *Thomas*, not the list. > >-- >::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Norman Subject: oooooppss sorry Date: 13 Sep 1996 18:18:57 -0400 At 01:39 PM 9/13/96 -0600, you wrote: >> Everybody who wants one, send me e-mail with your address. > >Please remember to email *Thomas*, not the list. > >-- >::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. Lazlo, I'm sorry for the FLOOD on the listserv. Everyone emailing about the video, MY e-mail address is: tnorman@mail.netwalk.com Thanks. Tom # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Norman Subject: Re: Oglio MWH 2 for 1 News Date: 13 Sep 1996 18:23:01 -0400 At 06:54 AM 9/13/96 -0800, you wrote: >James Davis wrote: >> >> Carl wrote: >> > >> > GOOD NEWS: The MWH Roy/Folk 2 for 1 will be released during the next six >> > months. >> >> Definitely good to hear.. but will the tracks be remastered?? >> >> Jim > >"Remastered" implies that we would go back to the multitrack source >tapes. We will go back as far as the original two track stereo master >tapes. It will sound better that the original CDs that were made in the >'80s. > >Carl Carl, I am just curious. Why is the "Collection" CD so hissy? I sounds noiseier than the original Statik CDs. I am talking about Safety Dance, I Like, and Living in China especially. The rest of the CD sounds better than the originals. Will the rerelease sound better than this? Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Norman Subject: Videotape people Date: 13 Sep 1996 18:35:58 -0400 Hi all, I've recorded two tapes so far (whenever I'm not at work or sleeping). I've got about 40 requests in one day (ouch!). I am have taken the responsibility to do this so I will. What I would like to do is find out who has two VCRs? If you have two VCRs and volunteer to do some taping yourself, you will get one of the first tapes. Don't worry, I've got all your e-mail w/ addresses. Give me another e-mail (to tnorman@mail.netwalk.com) if you can do this. As far as i'm concerned you can charge what you like (after you pay me $10 for my expenses). After you receive my tape and get back to me, I will throw some other peoples e-mail your way and maybe you can work something out. Just verify with me, that you want your order canceled (if you are dealing with another taper). This way , we both won't send tapes. etc. No need to panic everyone..... I CAN do 40 or 80 tapes but some people might not get their tapes for 2 months, see. My goal is to get these tapes to as many people as possible as quickly as possible, with as little wear to the originals. Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Rossi Subject: Re: Videotape people Date: 13 Sep 1996 20:45:42 -0400 (EDT) > responsibility to do this so I will. What I would like to do is find out > who has two VCRs? If you have two VCRs and volunteer to do some taping > yourself, you will get one of the first tapes. Don't worry, I've got all > your e-mail w/ addresses. Give me another e-mail (to I was thinking maybe one person in Canada can record for all the Canadians and one in Europe can record for the Europeans. I have two VCRs but they aren't stereo and one is a 2 head and doesn't sound too great when you tape from it. .......................suReAl MoMeNtS iN dArK TeAl............................ ae752@freenet.toronto.on.ca Daniele Rossi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jupiter-8@juno.com (Rod MacQuarrie) Subject: Re: Videotape is COMPLETE! Date: 13 Sep 1996 19:52:06 PST I would like to get a copy of the tape. My address is: Roderick W. MacQuarrie 3430 Wedgwood Drive Portage, MI 49024 Please let me know when it will be ready. The standard would be NTSC or something like that I assume... Thanks... Rod On Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:10:01 -0400 Thomas Norman writes: >OK. This is the message you have all been waiting for! I am >currently >recording the first tape right now! Everybody who wants one, send >me >e-mail with your address. Please don't send me your $10 until I have >confirmed that there is a copy ready to go (with your name on it). I >have >just completely cleared my mailbox, so if you sent me e-mail saying >that you >want a tape, send it again! > Please format it as such: 1. Name > 2. mailing address > 3. country you live in (TV color >standard if >known) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Subject: Re: Oglio MWH 2 for 1 News Date: 13 Sep 1996 20:15:25 -0800 > I am just curious. Why is the "Collection" CD so hissy? I sounds noiseier > than the original Statik CDs. I am talking about Safety Dance, I Like, and > Living in China especially. The rest of the CD sounds better than the > originals. > Will the rerelease sound better than this? > Tom > tnorman@mail.netwalk.com We have to rely on the masters we receive from the licensing label. This time we will be able to take a bit more time to find the best source. Probably the Statik CDs borrowed from a MWH fan with alot of faith. :-) Carl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William G. Perrin III" Subject: ROY in Japan Date: 14 Sep 1996 12:43:21 +0900 Any chance the 2 for 1 ROY/FOT80s will be released in Japan? If so, I might be willing to help out some of you unfortunate souls in the US & Canada. I see FOT80s CD in the music stores here every once in a while. I have a copy of my own, so if anyone wants me to look, I'll see what I can dig up. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Subject: Re: ROY in Japan Date: 13 Sep 1996 21:39:19 -0800 William G. Perrin III wrote: > > Any chance the 2 for 1 ROY/FOT80s will be released in Japan? If so, I > might be willing to help out some of you unfortunate souls in the US & > Canada. > > I see FOT80s CD in the music stores here every once in a while. I have > a copy of my own, so if anyone wants me to look, I'll see what I can dig > up. > Japan is a possibility. No distributor yet tho.... Carl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Norman Subject: Re: Oglio MWH 2 for 1 News Date: 14 Sep 1996 00:46:03 -0400 At 08:15 PM 9/13/96 -0800, you wrote: >> I am just curious. Why is the "Collection" CD so hissy? I sounds noiseier >> than the original Statik CDs. I am talking about Safety Dance, I Like, and >> Living in China especially. The rest of the CD sounds better than the >> originals. >> Will the rerelease sound better than this? >> Tom >> tnorman@mail.netwalk.com > >We have to rely on the masters we receive from the licensing label. > >This time we will be able to take a bit more time to find the best >source. Probably the Statik CDs borrowed from a MWH fan with alot of >faith. :-) If you don't have these already, I would be happy to contribute. faithfully, Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com > >Carl > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Davis Subject: Re: Oglio MWH 2 for 1 News Date: 13 Sep 1996 22:05:45 -0700 Carl wrote: > > "Remastered" implies that we would go back to the multitrack source > tapes. We will go back as far as the original two track stereo master > tapes. It will sound better that the original CDs that were made in the > '80s. > ... > We have to rely on the masters we receive from the licensing label. > > This time we will be able to take a bit more time to find the best > source. Probably the Statik CDs borrowed from a MWH fan with alot of > faith. :-) Which source will you use? You had mentioned in a previous post that the original 2-track for "Folk III" was in pretty poor shape (or maybe just the WDtBG? portion). Jim mailto:goreal@oz.net | http://www.oz.net/~goreal/menwithouthats # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jupiter-8@juno.com (Rod MacQuarrie) Subject: Re: Videotape people Date: 14 Sep 1996 09:27:42 PST Has anyone considered doing this professionally? I had an Alphaville video in PAL format transferred to NTSC for $15 including the tape... Rod On Fri, 13 Sep 1996 20:45:42 -0400 (EDT) Danny Rossi writes: >> responsibility to do this so I will. What I would like to do is >find out >> who has two VCRs? If you have two VCRs and volunteer to do some >taping >> yourself, you will get one of the first tapes. Don't worry, I've >got all >> your e-mail w/ addresses. Give me another e-mail (to > >I was thinking maybe one person in Canada can record for all the >Canadians and one in Europe can record for the Europeans. I have two >VCRs but they aren't stereo and one is a 2 head and doesn't sound too >great when you tape from it. > >.......................suReAl MoMeNtS iN dArK >TeAl............................ > ae752@freenet.toronto.on.ca > Daniele Rossi > > > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: Re: Videotape people Date: 14 Sep 1996 23:33:13 -0500 (EST) I have two 4-head, stereo, HiFi VCRs both of which are less than a year old and would be more than willing to help everybody out. Also, I might be able to finally go dig out my negatives of the pics I took of the MWH concert in Tulsa in May 1988 at the Cain's, now that I'm on vacation. Wouldn't that be a nice addition to include with the copies I make? I would think so. Ciao! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bgystad@online.no (Bill Gystad) Subject: Re: ROY/FolkIII Release Date: 15 Sep 1996 14:42:11 +0200 Better late than never..... As far as I concern there are no longer a red book time limit. History says that the limit regarding to the red book, was casual and that the cd was supposed to be at least long enough for one of Mozarts pieces, and that the decission was taken by one of the VDs wives..... So do we have to do some editing at all ?? Is it not a more important question to ask : What more can we squeeze in to= it ? "I don=B4t want to be a Messiah, i just want to have fun!" Rgds Bill Gystad, Soundengineer at Norwegian Broadcasting Corp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bgystad@online.no (Bill Gystad) Subject: Re: Videotape is COMPLETE! Date: 15 Sep 1996 14:53:46 +0200 Yes, please. By, By Gotta go to the post office....... BILL GYSTAD WELDING OLSENSVEI 58 0694 OSLO NORWAY, (PAL,STANDARD) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bgystad@online.no (Bill Gystad) Subject: Re: Oglio MWH 2 for 1 News Date: 15 Sep 1996 14:57:13 +0200 "Remix" implies that you go back to the multitrack "remastering" is "cleaning up" the two track master Just to clear up any misunderstandings. CyBIll, # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Norman Subject: Tom's Video Progress Date: 15 Sep 1996 12:36:01 -0400 Hi, Things are going very very well with the tapes! I have done 7 already! The contributers will get their copies by the end of next week (this friday). Then I can start copying the tapes for everybody else. Hopefully, the first 7 people, contributers, can post to the rest of the list concerning how great the tape is FIRST HAND as soon as they receive it. I mean, how can you take my word? I have already purchased a bunch of jetpack mailers and new blank VHS tapes (bricks of 5 or 10). I was planning on assigning everyone a number, who has e-mailed me concerning a tape. I will put their address and e-mail add. into a logbook, with their number next to their name. I will then frequently post which number I have reached at the time. For example, I am just finishing up #34, etc. If you are 34 or 33 , your tape will be in your hands within the week. Neat huh. This way I can also keep track of who has mailed me a check or not (dont mail me anything yet!). For those of you asking what the exact tracklist is? You will find out when the first 7 people receive their tapes. hint: its fantastic!!!!!! Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gregor Watson Subject: SD Video Date: 15 Sep 1996 21:19:14 GMT Strange timing or what!! I've been into MWH from day one and now that Tom's video is complete MTV go and show Cow Tipping. This is the only time I have ever seen the Safety Dance video (even if I did have to put up with voiceovers from Beavis and Butthead). Anyway off to rewind it again..and again..and again. Gregor # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Norman Subject: begin sending Date: 15 Sep 1996 21:36:46 -0400 First of all, Thank you James Davis, Greg Baerg, Dave Mattingly, Mike Watters, and Steven Enz for making this all possible. Your final tapes will be mailed tommorow (first 5 tapes). I hope you will all allow me to hold onto your master tapes for about another month. I have 50 people that want copies after all of you. I am checking all of your tapes for an INCREASE in dropouts everytime I play them. As soon as I detect any age, i'll send your tape back. I will then just use my tape for your segment. This has not happened yet, though. As long as I don't get 100 requests, I don't think we should get nervous yet. Now for the rest of you. I should have about 10 more tapes done by the end of the week. This means that: 1. Paul Guthrie 2. Donald Stroud II 3. David Caldwell 4. Adam J. Weitzman 5. Hiram Lester Jr. 7. Edward Franks 8. Ian Ingham 9. Woody Zenfell 10. Paul Thienprasit --- please send me a check for $10 US ADDRESS: Tom Norman 2593 Osceola Ave. Columbus, OH 43211 There is a #6, but he is overseas. I will do 10 overseas all at once next week - all are PAL. #6 will be #1 next week One more thing, Whoever sent me the laserdisc S-VHS copy of POP GOES THE WORLD, please give me your return address. It was not on your mailer. Your tape is ready to go. I think the mailer said AB-CD, but was scratched out. Any comments or suggestions, please e-mail me and not the entire list (don't reply) my email address is : tnorman@mail.netwalk.com Tom # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Davis Subject: Re: ROY/FolkIII Release Date: 15 Sep 1996 21:51:22 -0700 Carl wrote: > > I will be making an announcement within the next two weeks about the > release of ROY/FolkIII. There is a small light at the end of the tunnel. > > With regard to the track listing, survey says........ > > Bye bye Antarctica! > > Carl@Oglio Has the final track listing been worked out? Jim goreal@oz.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jupiter-8@juno.com (Rod MacQuarrie) Subject: Re: begin sending Date: 15 Sep 1996 22:54:27 PST Hi: Could you tell me where I stand in the tape dup.??? Thanks... Rod On Sun, 15 Sep 1996 21:36:46 -0400 Thomas Norman writes: >First of all, >Thank you James Davis, Greg Baerg, Dave Mattingly, Mike Watters, and >Steven >Enz for making this all possible. Your final tapes will be mailed >tommorow >(first 5 tapes). I hope you will all allow me to hold onto your >master >tapes for about another month. I have 50 people that want copies >after all >of you. > I am checking all of your tapes for an INCREASE in dropouts >everytime I >play them. As soon as I detect any age, i'll send your tape back. I >will >then just use my tape for your segment. This has not happened yet, >though. >As long as I don't get 100 requests, I don't think we should get >nervous yet. > Now for the rest of you. I should have about 10 more tapes done >by the >end of the week. This means that: > 1. Paul Guthrie 2. Donald Stroud II 3. David Caldwell 4. Adam J. >Weitzman >5. Hiram Lester Jr. 7. Edward Franks 8. Ian Ingham 9. Woody Zenfell >10. Paul >Thienprasit --- please send me a check for $10 US > >ADDRESS: Tom Norman > 2593 Osceola Ave. > Columbus, OH 43211 > > >There is a #6, but he is overseas. I will do 10 overseas all at once >next >week - all are PAL. #6 will be #1 next week > >One more thing, Whoever sent me the laserdisc S-VHS copy of POP GOES >THE >WORLD, please give me your return address. It was not on your mailer. > Your >tape is ready to go. I think the mailer said AB-CD, but was scratched >out. > >Any comments or suggestions, please e-mail me and not the entire list >(don't >reply) > >my email address is : tnorman@mail.netwalk.com >Tom > > > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Norman Subject: Re: begin sending Date: 16 Sep 1996 10:09:05 -0400 At 10:54 PM 9/15/96 PST, you wrote: >Hi: Could you tell me where I stand in the tape dup.??? > >Thanks... > >Rod Rod, You are #39. Just so everything is fair and square, I assigned numbers according to who e-mailed me first, after I said "GO". Don't worry, I want everyone of the first 50 to get one. I think after that, its just people who came in from the 80s newsgroup. Maybe I can make some for them too, lets see how the tapes hold up. Remember, You may want a copy from someone else, if you don't want to wait about a month. I am hoping I can get some help. In fact, you can jump in the line yourself to #11 if you agree to dub some copies for some of the North Americans. Do you have two VCRs? Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Subject: Re: ROY/FolkIII Release Date: 16 Sep 1996 07:53:37 -0800 James Davis wrote: > > Carl wrote: > > > > I will be making an announcement within the next two weeks about the > > release of ROY/FolkIII. There is a small light at the end of the tunnel. > > > > With regard to the track listing, survey says........ > > > > Bye bye Antarctica! > > > > Carl@Oglio > > Has the final track listing been worked out? > > Jim > goreal@oz.net Not yet. Carl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: heidi@bronze.lcs.mit.edu (Heidi) Subject: Video and 2/1 cd Date: 16 Sep 1996 10:56:05 -0400 I don't seem to have the message anymore, but I think Tom said if we want to know what's actually on the the video we need to wait for someone who's recieved their copy to post the info. So can someone send me the info when you have it? The most recient track listing I saw posted had several `maybes' on it and I'd like to know what really is on it before I pay for something I might not want. Thanks. People were talking about places to get Carl's 2/1 cd since it won't be released in the US first. I know of two rather good mailorder import houses that might be worth checking with once it's out in Europe. Compact Disc Services (aka C&D) in Scotland and BeeBees in England. I've been ordering from C&D for years. I get most of my synth (not Hats type synth) from them and they're good folks. I've only ordered from BeeBees once but they seemed fine. Neither of them are on the net, but I'll dig up their phone numbers and post them later. =}{= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Norman Subject: Videotape # assignments Date: 16 Sep 1996 11:12:17 -0400 I assigned everyone's number according to the order my mailbox filled up after I said "begin sending". Here are the numbers: Paul Guthrie (I already got your check, sorry. no need to send) #1, Donald Stroud #2, David Caldwell #3, Adam J. Weitzman #4, Hiram Lester #5, Nenad Stefanovic #6, Edward Franks #7, Ian Ingham #8, Woody Zenfell #9, Paul Thienprasit #10, David Hopman #11, Brad Day #12, Russ Kemsley #13, Dave Datta #14, Brent England #15, Danny Rossi #16, Edward Lee #17, Gregor Watson #18, Miranda Gill #19, Alex Aymerich #20, Pale Plantz #21, Rick Fuller #22, Steve Searle #23, Si Woodridge #24, Brian Rodewald #25, Anthonetta #26, J.R. Bookwalter (store?) #27, Mike Shirk #28, Mike Cashman #29, John Kriens #30, Kevin Gamble #31, Doug Finney #32, Charles Garbowski #33, Jeff Schachter #34, Chris Evangelista #35, Henning Schmledehausen #36, Jim Sustacek #37, Jon Stanley #38, Roderick W. MacQuarrie #39, Greg Sampson #40, Bill Black #41, William G. Perrin #42, Kahlil Breithaupt #43, Marco Hendrikse #44, George Polly #45, Laura Kramer #46, Myke Carter #47, Steve Grossberg #48, Bill Gystad #49,Michael Vickers #50 Thats the first 50. I may have to temporarily stop here. At the very least, I should send the masters back at this point, whether there is no degradation or not. I may continue dubbing off my tape after this, continuing my list ->. By the way, I am playing the masters in my BETTER of my two VCRs. When the tape rewinds, it slows down the motor near the end. This stops the VCR from tugging at the tape. My heads on this VCR were also just pro- cleaned about a month ago, by chance. It is possible that your copy may look better than the original. I have reports from a couple of contributers that their tapes have some tracking bars and static. I am not getting it on my S-VHS deck (seperate audio & video tracking). It even brings in old mono tapes near perfect. OK. Now there is a possible way to cut in the line. If you have the ability to dub tapes for other people (you charge what you want), from your copy, you will jump up in line. This way everyone will get a copy, whether they are 70 or #100. We will all work something out later. The contributers don't have numbers because their tapes were just mailed 3 hours ago, priority mail. They will receive their tapes in just a couple of days. Canada will be about a week, sorry. The final track listing of the video is a bit of a secret. I WANT the first few people who receive the tape to report to the listserv everything, first hand. I don't want to spoil it until the first person receives his/her tape. Progress: I am recording #2 Donald Stroud right now. See, isn't this method cool? Remember...any questions or comments to ME not the list. I am -> tnorman@mail.netwalk.com Tom # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ian@spam.ctr.usf.edu (Ian Ingham) Subject: UK Remix Safety Dance Date: 16 Sep 1996 14:51:46 -0500 A friend picked this up for me, the UK Remix of SD. Which, as a bonus, has the "Original Aussie" version of SD on the B-Side. Gee, and I thought they were Canadian! Ian Ingham Phone: (813) 974-5003 FAX: (813) 974-4180 E-Mail: ian@spam.ctr.usf.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Norman Subject: videotape progress Date: 18 Sep 1996 03:21:26 -0400 hats fans, I have some news regarding the tape but first: #3 David Caldwell + #4 Adam Weitzman - juat finished your tapes. Also #55 Michael Thomas - has 3 VCRS to dupe 2 tapes at once. His tape is done as well. Well this is my new news. If you are over #50, and want a tape. You may be able to work something out with Michael -> mthomas@gainv.mindspring.com. Mike, Thanks. Your tape + 3,4 will be in the mail in the morning. This does not mean that I won't make any tapes over #50 either. I just don't want to make any promises while I'm at tape #4. Anything could happen between now and then. I am moving along, though. Remember #4 includes the 6 tapes for the contributers (really 10 tapes total). I am going to try to dupe one a day after work. Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARBOWSKI JR CHARLES R Subject: lists Date: 18 Sep 1996 14:38:09 -0400 (EDT) I know that this isn't really on the subject of hats (forgive me all) but it does have to do with lists. Does anyone know where or how I might obtain a list of the lists out there? There are other groups that I would like to locate lists for if they exist. Thanks, Charlie Garbowski # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hiram Lester Jr." Subject: Re: lists Date: 18 Sep 1996 15:33:53 -0500 (CDT) On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, GARBOWSKI JR CHARLES R wrote: > I know that this isn't really on the subject of hats (forgive me all) but > it does have to do with lists. Does anyone know where or how I might > obtain a list of the lists out there? There are other groups that I > would like to locate lists for if they exist. There is a list of musical mailing lists maintained by Myra Wong. I don't know how complete it is, but you can search the web for it. Several sites have copies of it. I think the title has "Musical Mailing Lists" or something to that effect, so try that. Good luck. +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Hiram W. Lester, Jr. | E-Mail: hwlester@pobox.com | | Computer Science | Homepage: | | Middle Tennessee State University | http://pobox.com/~hwlester/ | +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANCOIS BLAWAT Subject: MWH and MTV Date: 18 Sep 1996 16:29:41 -0500 Yes, isn't it a shame MTV's Beavis & Butthead won't show more than 25 seconds of the "Safety Dance" video. It appears they don't know good music when they see it. (But then again, it IS a cartoon) Francois Strange timing or what!! I've been into MWH from day one and now that Tom's video is complete MTV go and show Cow Tipping. This is the only time I have ever seen the Safety Dance video (even if I did have to put up with voiceovers from Beavis and Butthead). Anyway off to rewind it again..and again..and again. Gregor # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Norman Subject: Re: MWH and MTV Date: 18 Sep 1996 20:25:11 -0400 At 04:29 PM 9/18/96 -0500, you wrote: >Yes, > > isn't it a shame MTV's Beavis & Butthead won't show more than 25 >seconds of the "Safety Dance" video. It appears they don't know good >music when they see it. (But then again, it IS a cartoon) > >Francois > > >From: Gregor Watson >Strange timing or what!! I've been into MWH from day one and now that >Tom's video is complete MTV go and show Cow Tipping. This is the only >time I have ever seen the Safety Dance video (even if I did have to put up >with voiceovers from Beavis and Butthead). Anyway off to rewind it >again..and again..and again. > >Gregor It seems to me that Men Without Hats is like a local Montreal Band. I say this because the Montreal MTV, Musique Plus, plays the hell out of MWH videos (at least before '91). On the other hand, any other music network doesn't even know who they are - exeption Much Music plays a bit, but not enough. I taped "I Like" just recently off of Musique Plus. I thought it was really cool, when I visited Montreal in 1992, that everyone and their mother knows and loves MWH in that city, it seems. There were a few exceptions of course, but everyone knew who they were. Now even in Toronto, people had to think a bit to figure out who they even were. It was really cool, going into a quebecois record store and finding 3 sealed Freeways records in Montreal. Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shriekman@aol.com Subject: The videotape... Date: 19 Sep 1996 04:26:00 -0400 Well, maybe I'm the lucky first (at least one of them...) First off, Congratulations Tom! A wonderful job and _excellent_ quality throughout. I can see you put an awful lot of time and work into it (down to the labels) and I am very, very impressed. I had most of the material beforehand, but I was very pleased with the newer items, especially the Top of the Pops portion --- I also found it funny that Ivan seemed to be singing over an instrumental in the Pops appearance, but Solid Gold was just a straight lip-synch. The middle section looks and sounds great and I am just incredibly happy that I have one package all the way through... I sat through the entire two hours and was lost in memories. Thanks! And to anyone who hasn't decided whether or not to get it: There's no question. It's worth it: Every video is represented, lots of interview material and a big surprise I'll let someone else rave about.. I think I've done enough! Greg the shriekman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" Subject: Mikey's alive! Date: 19 Sep 1996 09:14:08 +0000 Hi everybody! I got a nice letter from Mike Best yesterday - he's doing OK and has set up his own consulting business after being "made redundant." He's hoping to get a CD writer for his Mac soon, and get started on the CDs. He doesn't have email yet, but also hopes to have that up and running shortly. I have his snail mail address, and his phone number, if anyone wants to get in touch with him and say hey howdy. Write to me by private e-mail at this address or jlkramer@interpath.com (it really irritates my husband that I get email on his account and he doesn't - ha ha!) :-) Laura, still digging out and drying out from Fran! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mattingly, David Allen" Subject: MWH - the Video Date: 19 Sep 1996 11:24:00 PDT I got it yesterday. Thank you Tom! The interview I sent came out pretty well -- it looks even better than it did on my tape. You must have a killer VCR there. Was that Moonbeam video at the beginning the one I sent in? The quality on it was much better than I thought you could ever get out of my old tape. I had only ever seen the videos for Safety Dance, Pop Goes the World, and Moonbeam. Seeing the others was a real treat. The concert was fantastic, too. It was at least an hour, wasn't it? Thanks for a wonderful job, Tom. Dave Mattingly (please ignore the following binary garbage) The following binary file has been uuencoded to ensure successful transmission. 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I've been into MWH from day one and now that > >Tom's video is complete MTV go and show Cow Tipping. This is the only > >time I have ever seen the Safety Dance video (even if I did have to put up > >with voiceovers from Beavis and Butthead). Anyway off to rewind it > >again..and again..and again. > > > >Gregor > It seems to me that Men Without Hats is like a local Montreal Band. I say > this because the Montreal MTV, Musique Plus, plays the hell out of MWH > videos (at least before '91). On the other hand, any other music network > doesn't even know who they are - exeption Much Music plays a bit, but not > enough. > I taped "I Like" just recently off of Musique Plus. I thought it was > really cool, when I visited Montreal in 1992, that everyone and their mother > knows and loves MWH in that city, it seems. There were a few exceptions of > course, but everyone knew who they were. Now even in Toronto, people had to > think a bit to figure out who they even were. It was really cool, going > into a quebecois record store and finding 3 sealed Freeways records in Montreal. > Tom Tom, You are right about Montreal & MWH, despite the fact that they haven't released anything since "Sideways" inj 1991, and before that rleases of the preceding albums and touring were sporadic, it has always seemed that they have maintained a strong presence in Montreal all thoughout. You're right that they are still well known in Monteal, and I suppose that's because of the continuing video-play on MUsique-Plus and the activities of Ivan and Co. in the Montreal cultural scene, Colin and his operas, Ivan's work with bands such as Voivod, etc... A friend of mine purported that his brother briefly played with MWH in the very early 80s i.e. PSD (pre-Safety Dance) when they were just an Outremont synth-garage band. Montreal has long been a cauldron of interesting cultural influences, and there are a couple of other bands who are part of that scene, which I am quite fond of which I thought might be of interest to MWH fans. THE BOX is another band in the stable of MWH producer, Marc Durand. They're different from MWH in that they're francophones who decided to sing in English, rather than Anglo-Montrealers like MWH. However, they have much of the same synth sound as MWH, perhaps not quite as danceable, but with thought-provoking lyrics and moody arrangements, much like MWH's darker songs. Another band, which is also quite different, but has insanely danceable tunes, with social commentary is ME, MOM & MORGENTALER. They are a big brash band, largely devoid of synth, but full of fire, with more than a half-dozen members playing guitars, horns, and even an accordion. They exemplify the cultural diversity of Montreal of today, with songs in English, French and Spanish. (They also offer thanks in the liner notes to their first CD to Ivan ("wo-ho!")) A reflection of mine on being a Canadian MWH fan, is that I must confess, somewhat sheepishly, that I only really got turned on to MHW in the first place, after it started to top the U.S. charts in 1982 (was it?) and I saw the video on, of all places, Casey Kasem's video show (AGGGHHHH!). It does make me think about the way in which Canadians have traditionally related to their cultural products... that they need American recognition of it before they will embrace it. I would say that this was probably the case for MWH outside of Quebec, in their early years. WO-HO! Michael ************************************************************************* Michael Howland Balewa Vickers mvickers@yorku.ca, Toronto, Canada ************************************************************************* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJP1313@aol.com Subject: Re: Was Re: MWH and MTV, Re: MWH & Montreal Date: 19 Sep 1996 17:18:18 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-19 16:46:22 EDT, you write: << activities of Ivan and Co. in the Montreal cultural scene, Colin and his operas, Ivan's work with bands such as Voivod, etc... >> What have Ivan and the others been doing? And what did he do with Voivod? Also, since you seem so up on this stuff, whatever happened to the record label I heard MWH were starting and the new album they were working on (I heard this on an 80's flashback show about two years ago)? -Andrew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Senz Subject: I Got The Video and the video is clear.. Date: 20 Sep 1996 19:50:59 -0700 Got the video!! Wooo Hooo!!! Thanks Tom, and to everybody who contributed. As far as I'm concerned, this shows that we "Hats Fans" have got our act together and know how to beat those production companys at their own game. (I'm not talking about Carl here though :^) ) Ivan would definately approved of the fans bypassing all those record company executives that ripped him off for years!! The Much Music concert was an excellent addition! Somebody was sitting on top of this one nice and quiet like. >:-( Thanks heaps though whom ever you are! ;-) All in all, this is a very complete video and everyone who gets one won't regret it. The only thing I would say is too bad there wasn't a laser disk out there with all MWH videos on it, but I'm not going to cry about the odd dropout here and there. (The best VCR in the world can't fill in a dropout! er... can it?) BTW can anybody translate the French interview from the video? (Yes, I'm Canadian, not Canadien) Thanks again, Senz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: telliott@massmed.org (Toby Elliott) Subject: Please help Date: 22 Sep 1996 18:00:54 -0500 I need to get in touch with Mike Best ASAP. I may have found something that he might want for the boot CD. E-mail, if he's back on, would be best. Otherwise, a phone number. Thanks for your help. Regards, Toby Elliott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ManMachn2@aol.com Subject: i got a message Date: 23 Sep 1996 13:49:17 -0400 Hey everybody - I got this message today: >Subj: Hat Machines >Date: 96-09-22 15:51:31 EDT >From: nerf@netcom.ca (Bruce Murphy) >Reply-to: nerf@netcom.ca >To: ManMachn2@aol.com >Hi >Saw your note. I used to play for the hats and if I recall correctly the >gear was mostly Prophet 5's slaved to a Linn. One of the Prophets had a >trigger in so you would just hold down a note and the Linn would gate >it. Usually it was just 8th notes, but some kind of JL Cooper box was >used to trigger it on Safety Dance. Ivan had a Yamaha CP-70 piano, and >there was a piece of shit Synclavier, but I don't think anyone could get >it to work. By the time of the first tour there was a Ensoniq sampler as >well. >Feel free to post this on the list as I'm not subscribed. >Ciao >-- >Dr. Bruce Murphy >Ottawa, Canada >Dictator for Life; Underground Miata Network >http://www.ottawa.net/~tanner/umn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Norman Subject: Videotape Progress Date: 23 Sep 1996 23:14:37 -0400 Hi all. Sorry for the silence. I've been busy busy busy. I have got tape #10 finished today. The next 10 will be the PAL tapes, so #10-#20 be patient. I have not forgotten anybody. By the way, #1-#5 is in the mail and on the way. Thanks. Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Vickers Subject: Re: I Got The Video and the video is clear.. Date: 24 Sep 1996 02:34:05 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Senz wrote: > Got the video!! Wooo Hooo!!! > > Thanks Tom, and to everybody who contributed. As far as I'm concerned, > this shows that we "Hats Fans" have got our act together and know how to > beat those production companys at their own game. (I'm not talking about > Carl here though :^) ) Ivan would definately approved of the fans > bypassing all those record company executives that ripped him off for > years!! > BTW can anybody translate the French interview from the video? > > Thanks again, > Senz Senz (and others), I can do it... once I get my tape... however I'm currently #50 on the hit-parade, BUUUUTTTTTT... if there's any of you designated dubbers out there who want to forward me a tape, I could work on the translation to be posted here. (HUH? HUH? ;-) WO-HO! Michael ************************************************************************* Michael Howland Balewa Vickers mvickers@yorku.ca, Toronto, Canada ************************************************************************* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dstroud@arwen-143.Eng.Sun.COM (Donald Stroud) Subject: Video madness Date: 24 Sep 1996 09:51:21 -0700 First, a general note to Tom: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS VIDEO THING! Now, a comment to everyone about the video: (stunned silence) That's about all I can say. I sat down last night and watched every single minute without getting off the couch. I didn't even realize that there was a video for "...In The 21st Century". It is now one of my favorites. Ever. I had seen everything up to "Pop Goes The World", but everything else was brand new. The one video that really sticks out in my mind is "I Like". The band took the theme from "Safety Dance" and brought it forward into a sort of "1984"-ish scenario. One interesting thing I had forgotten about was how everyone else from the band besides Ivan appears at the end of the video. It's very cool. And "I Like" is an awesome song to begin with. I loved it all. What a great band. If only Ivan and crew would get their energy back, and head into the studio again... But even if they don't, they left us all a wonderful body of work that is better than most everything being created today. Long live Men Without Hats! Don2 dstroud@captaina.Eng.Sun.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Norman Subject: videotape progress Date: 25 Sep 1996 08:30:59 -0400 OK All the tapes up to #10 have been mailed out, enjoy! #6 Nenad - you are next week with the other PAL system tapes. Also: #18 Gregor Watson , #20 Alex Aymerich, #24 Si , #26 Anthonetta , #36 Henning, #48 Bill Gystad I will do your tapes next week. Please don't send me any money yet! I will mail all of your tapes first (I have to see what postage will be). This will be in a while. Tom Tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: I got the video Date: 25 Sep 1996 09:05:27 -0400 ...and the video is GOOD!! I've only had the opportunity to watch the music videos, but they were excellent. I'm sure the rest is as good! Thanks to all the contributors, and especially Thomas Norman for donating his time and energy to this project. You made it happen, and we are all grateful. -- Adam J Weitzman ----- Individual, Inc. ----- weitzman@individual.com "I love the music of the 20th century!" - Bruce Willis, "12 Monkeys" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dstroud@arwen-143.Eng.Sun.COM (Donald Stroud) Subject: The video Date: 25 Sep 1996 14:33:05 -0700 I just can't stop watching the "21st Century" video. Something about it is just hypnotizing. The scenes with the band dancing around on that little patch of garden, with the word "EARTH" wrapping around them a la "I Like"... and then the face from the cover of the CD pulsing into a heart to the beat of the music... wow. I don't know why, but for some reason it captivates me. Remarkable. Oh, and I have a question for the MWH experts out there: is there anyway to get the mixes of the songs from the videos? I particularly liked the remix of "Moonbeam". That song not being one of my favorites, I was pleasantly surprised by how much more enjoyable the version in the video was. Don2 dstroud@captaina.Eng.Sun.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ElKrupla@aol.com Subject: Re: The video Date: 25 Sep 1996 17:51:34 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-25 17:37:59 EDT, you write: << Oh, and I have a question for the MWH experts out there: is there anyway to get the mixes of the songs from the videos? I particularly liked the remix of "Moonbeam". That song not being one of my favorites, I was pleasantly surprised by how much more enjoyable the version in the video was. >> I have a cassette single for "Hey Men" that has the shorter version. I also have the "Moonbeam" and "Pop Goes the World vinyl extended singles. I think the video song-versions are on those. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Winslow Subject: Hi Date: 25 Sep 1996 17:07:34 +0000 Hello, everyone. Just joined the list and was wondering if I could bother someone for a copy of the video tape tree going around? Thanks, Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Senz Subject: Re: The video Date: 26 Sep 1996 22:29:57 -0700 Donald Stroud wrote: > > I just can't stop watching the "21st Century" video. Something about it > is just hypnotizing. The scenes with the band dancing around on that > little patch of garden, with the word "EARTH" wrapping around them a la > "I Like"... and then the face from the cover of the CD pulsing into a > heart to the beat of the music... wow. I don't know why, but for some > reason it captivates me. Yeah, this video was always my favourite. The attention to detail shows what a genius Ivan can be. Notice that those red letters don't always spell "Earth". During a very brief momment someone went and moved the "h" to the front to spell "Heart". Ingenious or what!!! I thought the use of computer graphics was very appropriate for the Men Without Hats considering their synth background. As you say, "Remarkable" BTW I, also, cannot get enough of this video collection!!!! Senz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Murphy Subject: The Hat Chronicles Date: 28 Sep 1996 11:09:18 +0000 As a member of Men without Hats, I thought that people might be interested in various things I know about the band. As I notice things on the newsgroup that jog my memory, I'll post some of my observations. If anyone is interested in my weird anecdotes, post mail and I'll keep doing them. Seems like lots of people like the 21st century video. We first started playing it when we were on tour for PGTW. Ivan had the basic chord structure, and it started out a lot more guitar based. That swoopy, ethereal synth line I wrote with an Oberheim Matrix 1000. In 1989 I was at a music conference in NY, and I was walking through the Village when this hunched over wino came zooming down the sidewalk and head-butted me in the stomach. When I grabbed him, I realized it was Ivan! Apparantly he had seen me walking down the street and ran out of some cafe to accost me. Ivan was putting together ideas for 21st century, so two weeks later I wound up in upstate NY in the back of this Saab dealership doing tracks for the album. Lenny Pinkus had copied my synth line for the title track, but it was such a weird sound we had to bring down my Oberheim to duplicate it. While we were recording, I got the flu or food poisoning or something. I was so sick for a couple of days that I had to hold myself up with one hand while I played with the other. (I still laugh at the mistakes I played on that album) Between tracks, I'd lie on a couch in the lobby and watch TV. Once when Ivan came out to get me I was watching "Beetle Juice". I guess I looked pretty green, because Ivan looked at the TV, looked at me and started grinning. "Beetle Bruce!", he said, and burst out laughing. Possible topics to relate: -Duck abuse at Disneyland/The Sound Police -the audition process -average band height -why Stef was in a wheelchair -Heidi's melting rubber dress -The box full of Video tapes of the tour. -Finger-Tight Brad, the Kamikaze Lighting Director -George's incredibly smelly feet and other grounds for dismissal -the exploding bee incident -Being thrown out of the Limelight -The wardrobe case of eternal damnation/tour jackets/the safety shirt -13 second Guitar Safari -Why a snowman plays drums/Why no-one plays the snowman twice/Snowman head transportation. -Is it just me or are there dropouts on 21st Century? -Places to hide a Prophet 5 synthesizer Please pick your favorites -- Dr. Bruce Murphy Ottawa, Canada Dictator for Life; Underground Miata Network http://www.ottawa.net/~tanner/umn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Davis Subject: videotape thanks Date: 28 Sep 1996 09:13:26 -0700 Many *many* thanks to Tom for the effort & tape.. the "in the 21st Century" video is fantastic, I can't believe that it didn't get any play in the States.. Ah the injustice..! Jim --- mailto:goreal@oz.net | http://www.oz.net/~goreal/menwithouthats/ "I dream of cherry pies, candy bars and chocolate-chip cookies.." TH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: Re: The Hat Chronicles Date: 28 Sep 1996 13:45:24 -0500 (EST) Bruce! Good to see you here! Your autograph adorns my "ROY" LP cover as I was there at the Cain's in Tulsa '88 to see MWH perform! Great show! Who was the girl in the band (not Heidi, the other one) at that time? Is she or is she not the same girl in the inner photo of the PGTW CD booklet? If she is, then her hair was very different on the tour. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Russ Kemsley" Subject: RE: The Hat Chronicles Date: 28 Sep 1996 17:59:47 UT It's indeed an honor...these topics raised my eyebrows: -Heidi's melting rubber dress -the exploding bee incident -Is it just me or are there dropouts on 21st Century? -Places to hide a Prophet 5 synthesizer -Russ (russkem_ms@msn.com) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJP1313@aol.com Subject: Re: The Hat Chronicles Date: 28 Sep 1996 15:10:14 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-28 11:08:51 EDT, you write: << -Heidi's melting rubber dress Well , that one sounds very interesting. -Being thrown out of the Limelight >> Was this the Limelight in Chicago where you were supposed to play in 1988 and the show was cancelled at the last minute? (or was that at Avalon?) -Andrew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Senz Subject: Re: The Hat Chronicles Date: 28 Sep 1996 13:24:43 -0700 Bruce Murphy wrote: > > As a member of Men without Hats, I thought that people might be > interested in various things I know about the band. Bruce!! Welcome to your fans! One thing I noticed is that the above quote speaks in the present tense, could it be that Men Without Hats is something that's still going? I think almost everyone on this list wonders about this at least twice a day!! That and where and what is Ivan up to! BTW -- What's this about the Bonhomme on the drum? Senz (Steven Enz - the guy with the "Where Did The Synth Go?" protest T-Shirt) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Murphy Subject: Re: The Hat Chronicles Date: 28 Sep 1996 17:05:57 +0000 Thanks for the email Mike. HAve they opened any restaurants in Tulsa yet? We almost starved there! :-) The bass player in the band then was Marika Tjelios. The girl in the video and on the CD picture was a model, Marika has jet black hair and had to bleach it for the tour. Fortunately our drummer did not have to gain 300 pounds and grow a fibreglas head! -- Dr. Bruce Murphy Ottawa, Canada Dictator for Life; Underground Miata Network http://www.ottawa.net/~tanner/umn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Murphy Subject: Re: The Hat Chronicles Date: 28 Sep 1996 17:21:10 +0000 AJP1313@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 96-09-28 11:08:51 EDT, you write: > > << -Heidi's melting rubber dress > Well , that one sounds very interesting. > > -Being thrown out of the Limelight >> > Was this the Limelight in Chicago where you were supposed to play in 1988 and > the show was cancelled at the last minute? (or was that at Avalon?) > > -Andrew Wow! I remember that show!(or lack thereof). I don't remember why that one fell through. We had this idiot agent who insisted in booking us into venues where the band couldn't possibly fit. This also happened on the last date of the tour in California. We set up all the gear and found that I would have to sit on the bar to play!. Ivan got so pissed off, we tore it all back down again and went out partying./ -- Dr. Bruce Murphy Ottawa, Canada Dictator for Life; Underground Miata Network http://www.ottawa.net/~tanner/umn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Murphy Subject: Re: The Hat Chronicles Date: 28 Sep 1996 17:40:39 +0000 Senz wrote: > > Bruce Murphy wrote: > > > > As a member of Men without Hats, I thought that people might be > > interested in various things I know about the band. > > Bruce!! > > Welcome to your fans! One thing I noticed is that the above quote > speaks in the present tense, could it be that Men Without Hats is > something that's still going? I think almost everyone on this list > wonders about this at least twice a day!! That and where and what is > Ivan up to! > > BTW -- What's this about the Bonhomme on the drum? > > Senz > > (Steven Enz - the guy with the "Where Did The Synth Go?" protest > T-Shirt) Where did Ivan go is the $64 question. I'm still trying to track him down. The snowman is, as you pointed out, a "Bonhomme", or "Good Man". He's a mascot for the annual Quebec winter carnival. Ivan used to tell people it was the ghost of John Bonham.(I thought this was very clever) We could usually sucker some unwitting fan into donning the suit for the live show and dancing around and waving for the encore. Unfortunately, it was an actual winter carnival suit and it weighed at least 60lbs, and was made out of this heavy, non-breathing wool stuff, with a massive fibreglas head. Our lighting setup could crank the onstage heat up to about 100 degrees, epecially in venues with lower ceilings. By the middle of the encore, usually the Bonhomme wasn't quite looking his chipper self and was starting to weave drunkenly. Sometimes he'd do a complete, out-cold face plant right on the stage. This always cracked us up completely, because he stil had that idiotic grin on his face. Because the head was so unweildy, we often had to carry it on when we were flying, and it didn't have a case. One time we were held up in the Detroit airport and were very bored. Darren, the monitor guy, found a little merry-go-round, the kind you put a quarter in, and rode round and round with the head on. It was pretty surreal, and he was starting to frighten some of the other passengers, when two security guys ran up with their guns drawn and start yelling, "off the ride, NOW! Lie face down on the floor and take the head off!" We had to do a fair bit of explaining to get out of that one, and I think we had to sign some document that said we would never wear a mask or disguise in an airport again. Geez, you Americans have no sense of humor:-) -- Dr. Bruce Murphy Ottawa, Canada Dictator for Life; Underground Miata Network http://www.ottawa.net/~tanner/umn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Rossi Subject: A member here?! Date: 28 Sep 1996 18:17:47 -0400 (EDT) > Bruce! Good to see you here! Your autograph adorns my "ROY" LP cover as > I was there at the Cain's in Tulsa '88 to see MWH perform! Great show! Could it be true that there is indeed a member of Men Without Hats here on this list? I must apologize for what I am about to say: I've never heard about you. Sorry! Then again, I only have up to "Folk of the 80s Part III". Were/Are you a member in their later years? As for your anectodes, keep 'em coming! You realize now that you will get hundreds of e-mails ;) Thank you for the music. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: Re: The Hat Chronicles Date: 29 Sep 1996 02:32:28 -0500 (EST) Bruce, So Tulsa nearly did you in, eh? Well, I must apologize then on behalf of our fine, clean city for not being able to accomodate all of your grumbling bellies. Sorry about that! ('Tis true New York City we are not!) Um, it's actually kinda funny that you'd say something about not being able to find food in Tulsa! Right about the time you performed here, I remember reading a review in some forgotten publication by some poor sap who was on a tour of sorts through several preselected American cities for the purpose of doing nothing more than writing his impressions about each of them. Why, I dunno. Anyway, Tulsa was one of the cities he visited. The graphic used at the top of our review was one consisting of the Oral Roberts University "Prayer Tower" surrounded by a burger, some fries, and a Coke! It appears that he found this place to be nothing but ORU and an endless parade of fast food restaurants! What time of night did you finally decide to go hunting for some food? And what did you ultimately settle for? Denny's and The Kettle (America's Kitchen) are always open! I didn't bother asking you this in my previous post but since you do remember something specific from the brief time you spent in Tulsa, I must ask the inevitable question, "Do you remember me or signing my album covers?" I certainly don't expect you to answer that in the affirmative, but if there's a chance that you do, I'd like to know. The main reason why I'm curious about that is because somebody came up to me at the SRO afterparty and told me that the band was impressed by the fact that I'd brought my albums to the show. That surprised me because I didn't think it unusual at all. Ivan was very kewl to sign the cover of my Statik import "ROY" LP between songs during the show, although had I known beforehand that I'd have another chance to get his autograph at SRO afterwards, I certainly would have waited. I've always felt like I was being a nuisance to him that night because of it. I have no idea if he likes or hates signing autographs! And finally, I found the negatives for the pictures I took of the show that night, so if there is a demand for them I can now satisfy it. You guys (and girls) looked great performing in front of all those huge paintings of Hank Williams and Johnny Lee Wills, et al! Geez! :) What a juxto! Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul D. Guthrie" Subject: Re: The Hat Chronicles Date: 28 Sep 1996 23:45:57 -0400 > -Being thrown out of the Limelight >> >Was this the Limelight in Chicago where you were supposed to play in 1988 and >the show was cancelled at the last minute? (or was that at Avalon?) That was the Avalon. The Limelight in Chicago closed in 86. --Paul P.S. I still have the ticket for that show, autographed by Ivan. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJP1313@aol.com Subject: Re: The Hat Chronicles Date: 29 Sep 1996 09:26:57 -0400 In a message dated 96-09-28 17:21:12 EDT, you write: << > << -Heidi's melting rubber dress > Well , that one sounds very interesting. >> Thanks for the answer about the Avalon show. But I'd still like to hear about the melting dress. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Murphy Subject: Re: The Hat Chronicles Date: 29 Sep 1996 17:25:34 +0000 LORD HASENPFEFFER wrote: > > Bruce, > > So Tulsa nearly did you in, eh? Well, I must apologize then on behalf > of our fine, clean city for not being able to accomodate all of your > grumbling bellies. Sorry about that! ('Tis true New York City we are > not!) Actually, we were trying to find food about 2pm on a Saturday! I remember that every retaurant was closed, but each one had a sticker that said "Eat Out More Often-Tulsa Chamber of Commerce" on the window, and that inexplicably, everyone we met apologized for us having to be in Tulsa. > I didn't bother asking you this in my previous post but since you do > remember something specific from the brief time you spent in Tulsa, I > must ask the inevitable question, "Do you remember me or signing my > album covers?" I certainly don't expect you to answer that in the > affirmative, but if there's a chance that you do, I'd like to know. Actually, I DO remember you, now that you mention the albums! You had some very funky imports!(Incidently, 5 minutes after I met you I walked straight into a plate glass window and almost broke my nose!) > And finally, I found the negatives for the pictures I took of the show > that night, so if there is a demand for them I can now satisfy it. I would KILL to get negs of that show! For some reason, there are very few onstage photos from that era. Let me know! I've been looking for some recently! > You guys (and girls) looked great performing in front of all those > >huge paintings of Hank Williams and Johnny Lee Wills, et al! Geez! :) > What a juxto! Hey, I forgot about that! We had one of the Emulators go down right before the show, and this guy from Ice House did major surgery on it in the dressing room under this huge oil painting of Willie Nelson. It was very surreal. We all got down on our knees and did some "Hail Willie"s" in front of the painting, and miraculously, the Great One healed it, two minutes before the show. -- Dr. Bruce Murphy Ottawa, Canada Dictator for Life; Underground Miata Network http://www.ottawa.net/~tanner/umn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Murphy Subject: Re: The Hat Chronicles Date: 29 Sep 1996 18:31:36 +0000 AJP1313@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 96-09-28 17:21:12 EDT, you write: > > << > << -Heidi's melting rubber dress > > Well , that one sounds very interesting. >> > Thanks for the answer about the Avalon show. But I'd still like to hear about > the melting dress. Actually, this is a simple one. I NY, some of us bought new wardrobe at this kind of neo-bondage shop. I got these jeans with this kind of rubberized outer surface like pencil erasers, and Heidi got this skin tight rubber dress. The next night, we were playing some venue with a really low ceiling. The lights were maybe 2 feet above our heads (Heidi and I were on risers). It was so hot that I sunburned the top of my head. Heidi made out worse, because this plastic crap started to melt and stick to her body. It got all gooey, and we thought all the seams were going to let go. This dress only got used once. Another time, Ivan cut the lining out of his black leather stage jacket to make it cooler, and wore it over his bare skin. When he got off stage, the dye from the leather had dyed his skin black, and he looked like he still had the jacket on! No matter how ratty my jacket lining got, I never took it out. -- Dr. Bruce Murphy Ottawa, Canada Dictator for Life; Underground Miata Network http://www.ottawa.net/~tanner/umn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Murphy Subject: Re: Thanks Date: 29 Sep 1996 18:40:55 +0000 GARBOWSKI JR CHARLES R wrote: > > Thank you so much for your reply. I was extremely excited to have > contact with one of the "Hats". > In response to the Military Academy, does West Point sound familiar? > That's fairly far east from here. Yeah, I think that's it. Is it on a river? > Do you, however, know > if it might be possible to call, write, or e-mail any of the record > companies to get the music direct as opposed to going through a store? > If that's possible I'd prefer to do that and if you have any addresses or phone numbers that I might use to do that I'd appreciate it greatly if > you could pass them on. > Sincerely, > Charlie Sorry, I have no idea. -- Dr. Bruce Murphy Ottawa, Canada Dictator for Life; Underground Miata Network http://www.ottawa.net/~tanner/umn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Black" Subject: Dr. Date: 30 Sep 1996 04:48:26 UT Dr. Bruce Murphy Ottawa, Canada What kind of doctor are you anyway? I am a Doctor of Dental Surgery. I can fix your teeth if you are ever in Sacramento, California. I always wanted to see Men Without Hats but I guess that'll never happen, although I have noticed a trend of many bands trying to regroup, put out a new CD and tour with the original members (ie. Journey). MWH was not that famous though so I doubt that'll happen. The closest I'll get is when the bootleg video shows up (Only 31 people ahead of me still!!!). Thanks for the music. Bill Now for a completely unrelated subject..... "Are you suggesting we should eat my mother?" "Uh....yaah. Not Raw! Not Raw. We cook her. She'll be delicious with a few french fries, a bit of brocolli and stuffing. Delicious!" "What?!? I, I, I,.... Well, actually I do feel a bit peckish.. No, no I can't" "Look. We'll eat your mum. Then if you feel a bit guilty about it, we'll dig her grave afterwards and you can throw up into it." "Alright." -Monty Python # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: smoky3@ix.netcom.com (Christofer Evangelista) Subject: Re: The Hat Chronicles Date: 30 Sep 1996 04:09:50 -0700 Great to see a member of the Hats on the mailing list here. :) I'd like to hear the stories behind some of these topics sometime: >-Duck abuse at Disneyland/The Sound Police (did the snowman fit in with all the rest of the Disney characters?) >-the audition process >-Places to hide a Prophet 5 synthesizer thanx # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Norman Subject: Re: The Hat Chronicles Date: 30 Sep 1996 09:12:36 -0400 >Possible topics to relate: >-Duck abuse at Disneyland/The Sound Police >-the audition process >-average band height >-why Stef was in a wheelchair >-Heidi's melting rubber dress >-The box full of Video tapes of the tour. What is on these tapes, Bruce? Are these the FREEWAYS tour vids, like on Much Music "big ticket"? Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Schumann Subject: Re: hats Digest V2 #9 Date: 30 Sep 1996 09:05:28 -0500 (CDT) Hi. I'm new here. I see that Tom has made an awesome video. Well sign me up, Tom! If I had known, I would have gladly lent my PGTW CDV single for the project. I'll just hang out and wait for more news of the early albums on CD. Chris (whose new computer with CD recorder is on the way) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Vickers Subject: Re: The Hat Chronicles Date: 30 Sep 1996 15:20:58 -0400 (EDT) So Dr. Bruce, what has brought you to Ottawa, and involvment in the Miata Underground? Michael (temporarily, formerly of Ottawa) ************************************************************************* Michael Howland Balewa Vickers mvickers@yorku.ca, Toronto, Canada ************************************************************************* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Murphy Subject: Re: Dr. Date: 30 Sep 1996 18:15:46 +0000 William Black wrote: > > Dr. Bruce Murphy > > Ottawa, Canada > > What kind of doctor are you anyway? > > I am a Doctor of Dental Surgery. I can fix your teeth if you are ever in > Sacramento, California. I always wanted to see Men Without Hats but I guess > that'll never happen, although I have noticed a trend of many bands trying to > regroup, put out a new CD and tour with the original members (ie. Journey). > MWH was not that famous though so I doubt that'll happen. The closest I'll get > is when the bootleg video shows up (Only 31 people ahead of me still!!!). > Thanks for the music. > > Bill Sorry Bill, I have pretty good teeth as I am a dentist as well. I have been practicing since 85. with a couple of locums when I went on tour. -- Dr. Bruce Murphy Ottawa, Canada Dictator for Life; Underground Miata Network http://www.ottawa.net/~tanner/umn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BDay0000@aol.com Subject: Re: The Hat Chronicles Date: 30 Sep 1996 21:36:55 -0400 Bruce, Please!!! More Hat Chron's!!!!!! Brad Day...Hatless Atlanta, GA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: Bruce! Date: 30 Sep 1996 22:03:47 -0500 (EST) Bruce, > Actually, we were trying to find food about 2pm on a Saturday! That's really odd. I have this really odd habit of always eating in Tulsa at 2pm on Saturdays and never have one bit of trouble finding something to eat. Hmmm... :) If that happens the next time you're on tour in Tulsa (fingers crossed), just ask somebody how to get to Broken Arrow. BA is a Tulsa suburb about 10 miles to the southeast. Last I heard, it's the fastest growing city in all of Oklahoma. You'll have no problem finding a place to eat there. > inexplicably, everyone we met apologized for us having to be in Tulsa. I think that's because everybody here is all too aware of Oklahoma's image to the outside world. To many here, including myself, it's quite an embarrassment 'cuz we'uns ain't all cowboys 'n' injuns 'roun' these parts, knowhutimean? It's really a nice place to live if you can deal with the endless Okie-tawk ads on the teevee and radio. > Actually, I DO remember you, now that you mention the albums! Yeah, I believe I was the only one who brought any that night. Tulsa's crowds are weird. Most of the time they never dance, sing or anything. They just stand there and watch. If I really like the band, I want them to know it! > You had some very funky imports! Actually, I just have the one funky import version of ROY. It's not a cutout but I did find it in a discount bin back in '86 at one of the local chain outlets. It was all by itself and I just felt so sorry for it! I wish I had bought a copy of PGTW before the show so I could have gotten it autographed as well. I was so entertained by the performance that I went right out the next day and bought it on CD. It came in a plastic bubble pak with a really neat cardboard insert sporting the cover artwork. I still have that insert too. I'm keeping it for the next time I get to see Ivan so I can get his autograph again! > (Incidently, 5 minutes after I met you I walked straight into a plate glass window and almost broke my nose!) Ouch! I think we've all done that at least once in our lives! > I would KILL to get negs of that show! For some reason, there are very few onstage photos from that era. Let me know! I've been looking for some recently! I'm sorry. I didn't mean to imply that I would ever willingly part with the negatives. I posted something here a few months ago about having pictures of the 1988 Tulsa show and got quite a few replies from people willing to pay the amount it would cost me to make and mail new prints from the negatives. The only thing was that at that time I didn't exactly know where the negatives were. I've found them now so if there is still a demand for them, I can now satisfy it. Actually, what I also have now that I didn't have then is access to a scanner and my own web site via Delphi. http://people.delphi.com/mykec I think I should actually scan the original prints I had made in '88 and make them available for viewing and downloading via my site. Then, if anybody still wanted the real things made from the negatives, at least they'd know more of what they'd be getting. Be patient and I'll make them available soon! Already there is a link to a MWH site located in the "My Favourite Musical Artists" section of my site. I could just add a new part to it containing the link as well as the pictures. > We all got down on our knees and did some "Hail Willie"s" in front of the painting, and miraculously, the Great One healed it, two minutes before the show. You crack me up! Absolutely amazing, man! Whodathunkit?! Myke P.S. If I remember correctly, you guys played Kemper Arena in Kansas City two nights after you played The Cain's Ballroom here. I had just been to Kemper Arena three months before to see Michael Jackson's 2nd US concert there supporting his then-new "Bad" album. I have always wondered what Ivan, you and the rest of the band thought about going to two such extremes in as many days as far as venues go. Kemper Arena is quite large, especially when compared to the cubbyhole Cain's (although I really enjoyed seeing one of my favourite bands performing in such a close and personal setting). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Grebssorg@aol.com Subject: Re: MWH Chronicles Date: 30 Sep 1996 23:45:02 -0400 Wow, what a kick to find a real bandmember relating old war stories here on the list! Bruce, I saw you on the PGTW tour in Santa Clara, California, at a place then-called One Step Beyond. I think I sang every lyric that night, and Ivan seemed to notice. The real highlight was during WDTBG, when Ivan stuck his microphone right into my face for a big "woah-ho!" I thought that was about the coolest thing in the world back then. Meeting you folks and chatting would have been even better though. (Maybe it was a school night?) Anyway, welcome. And I vote for your telling every single story you can remember. :) --Swahili Steve p.s. Could whoever runs the list possibly change the size of the digests? I'm only hearing from the Hats List about once a week, and the digests are too big to open in my mail program. I need to go to my word processor to read them. :( Any help here would be greatly appreciated! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message.