From: hats-owner@xmission.com To: hats-digest@xmission.com Subject: hats Digest V2 #7 Reply-To: hats@xmission.com Errors-To: hats-owner@xmission.com Precedence: hats Digest Monday, 4 November 1996 Volume 02 : Number 007 In this issue: Re: (hats) Rare Hats... (hats) THE VIDEO Re: (hats) Greatest Hats Re: (hats) Greatest Hats Re: (hats) Bruce Murphy (hats) Da Video! (hats) Copy of video FS (hats) Greatest Hats (hats) Video (hats) Oglio overseas release? Re: (hats) Oglio overseas release? (hats) Videotape Progress (hats) New release!!!! Re: (hats) New release!!!! Re: (hats) New release!!!! (hats) Greatest Hats (hats) Video (hats) pop goes the world (hats) re:New Release!!!! (hats) Pictures from 1983 to 1988 (hats) www.cdnow.com (hats) New Release..IMHO (hats) www.cdnow.com -Reply (hats) missed messages (hats) What will Ivan sound like after all these years?.... See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the hats or hats-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ElKrupla@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:55:15 -0400 Subject: Re: (hats) Rare Hats... In a message dated 96-10-23 00:11:00 EDT, you write: << Also...I'm wondering if this live show in Montreal is the one included on the video compilation or yet another one??? And has anyone ever heard Ban the Game Part II?? >> It's probably the same one...it starts with "Heaven", and Ban the Game ( I ) leads into Ban the Game II... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: BDay0000@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 21:37:09 -0400 Subject: (hats) THE VIDEO Hats fans!!!!! Got my video today!!!! I watched the entire tape before doing anything else!!!!! It was excellent!!! The live show was great to see. It sort of bridged a gap in my Hats fandom. I also saw the videos for the first time (sans SD and WDTBG)!!!! Very original and they hold up even by today's standards. Brad Day # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: James Davis Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 21:15:44 -0700 Subject: Re: (hats) Greatest Hats Carl wrote: > > You hard-core MWH fans will dig this. A new version of the MWH > Collection is coming out in Canada. It should be in stores soon. Does anyone know if this is on the Mainstream label? Jim - -- mailto:goreal@oz.net | http://www.oz.net/~goreal/menwithouthats # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Carl Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 08:51:21 -0800 Subject: Re: (hats) Greatest Hats The label is called Aquarius and they are in Montreal. That is about all I know. Carl @ oglio James Davis wrote: > > Carl wrote: > > > > You hard-core MWH fans will dig this. A new version of the MWH > > Collection is coming out in Canada. It should be in stores soon. > > Does anyone know if this is on the Mainstream label? > > Jim > -- > mailto:goreal@oz.net | http://www.oz.net/~goreal/menwithouthats > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Bruce Murphy Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 22:35:17 +0000 Subject: Re: (hats) Bruce Murphy Hi Francis Thanks for your questions. Lenny Pinkus and I shared keyboard duties for the 1988 tour. Marika Tjelius played keyboard bass, and Heidi Garcia played some string pads in some songs. Ivan played a bit of piano on parts of th tour as well. Ivan took quite a while to do PGTW, but this was before my time. I was under the impression that the the delay was due to losing their deal at Polygram, but hey, who knows. I met Ivan's ex-wife once while I was living over at Stef's place. She was very nice and Ivan and her seemed to get along fabulously. I forget what she did for a living, but I seem to recall it was something interesting? I don't remember meeting you in Montreal, but hell, I can't remember half the tour! :-) I'll be talking to Ivan this weekend, I'll tell him you said Hi. Apparantly he's working in a studio in Montreal. He left a message on my voicemail last week but didn't elaborate. (Maybe new Hats material?) - -- Dr. Bruce Murphy Ottawa, Canada Dictator for Life; Underground Miata Network http://www.ottawa.net/~tanner/umn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: "William G. Perrin III" Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 00:36:23 +0900 Subject: (hats) Da Video! Well, the land of the rising sun has it's first and only copy of the best chunk of music ever to be put on video tape. I'll be putting on a preview of the video at a club in Osaka this weekend if anyone will be in the neighborhood (Copyrights don't mean too much in Asia.) Tom, I must raise a hunk of cold fish and warm cup of rice wine to your efforts! The videos themselves came out much better than I expected and the concert is a MUST for any MWH fan. (There are a few sound problems in the concert section with level dropouts) Maybe I'm just stating the obvious, but I think that we all owe Mr. Norman a debt of gratitude for adding to the incredibly scarce supply of MWH material available. Out of all the people talking about making a bootleg CD, video, T-shirt, etc., Tom is the only person who actually DID anything about it. My hat goes off to you Tom! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: heidi@bronze.lcs.mit.edu (Heidi) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 14:04:28 -0400 Subject: (hats) Copy of video FS A little while ago Michael Thomas offered to make copies of the video for anyone too far down on the original video list. I ordered one from him and got it a few days ago. I watched it once and decided it's not something I'm likely to watch again so thought I'd offer it to someone else. There's nothing wrong with the tape and it's on a nice Maxell HGX-Gold tape. I just don't expect I'll watch it again so I figured I'd see if anyone else is far down on the wait list and wants to just buy this one instead of waiting for one of those. If you, just drop me a note about it. (don't reply to the list.) Send to me at heidi@world.std.com since I read that account more often then this one. Btw, does anyone on the list speak French and knows what ID is saying in that one interview? =}{= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Danny Rossi Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 16:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: (hats) Greatest Hats > The label is called Aquarius and they are in Montreal. That is about all > I know. Aquarius....isn't that the label Corey Hart was on? ........"Where can we find a duck and a hose at this hour?"............. ae752@freenet.toronto.on.ca Daniele Rossi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: BDay0000@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 21:05:46 -0500 Subject: (hats) Video Francis, Lost your E-Mail address. Please re-send and I will respond to your question. Brad Day # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: dstroud@arwen-143.Eng.Sun.COM (Donald Stroud) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 01:26:32 -0800 Subject: (hats) Oglio overseas release? Carl, Any word on the European release of your 2-on-1 "Rhythm Of Youth/Folk Of The 80s (Part III)" CD? I've got a friend in Germany awaiting my command to purchase one... Don2 dstroud@captaina.Eng.Sun.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Carl Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 06:51:34 +0000 Subject: Re: (hats) Oglio overseas release? Donald Stroud wrote: > > Carl, > > Any word on the European release of your 2-on-1 "Rhythm Of Youth/Folk > Of The 80s (Part III)" CD? I've got a friend in Germany awaiting my > command to purchase one... > > Don2 > dstroud@captaina.Eng.Sun.com > We are looking at Feb/March. Stay tuned! Carl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Thomas Norman Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:17:24 -0600 Subject: (hats) Videotape Progress Hi all, I've just mailed out #10-#20. I'm working on #20-#30 now. Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: JDivito334@aol.com Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:14:31 -0500 Subject: (hats) New release!!!! Hello guys!!! It's official, Ivan come back with a French solo album in January. I have no more information for now. If anyone want picture of the band between 1983 to 1987 and some audio clip (in french), let me know, I will send your personnally via E-Mail some of them bye Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Danny Rossi Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 16:17:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: (hats) New release!!!! > It's official, Ivan come back with a French solo album in January. PERFECT! Can't wait for this to come out! A great reason for the new year! I'm happy that it is all in french in a way; that was one of the reasons why Men Without Hats were so appealing--their french lyrics with the english. I wonder what kind of music he will sing? Coudl you picture Ivan rapping? 8^0 Sorry for ruining your day. > If anyone want picture of the band between 1983 to 1987 and some audio clip > (in french), let me know, I will send your personnally via E-Mail some of > them Sure, I'd love the pictures. How big are they? ........"Where can we find a duck and a hose at this hour?"............. ae752@freenet.toronto.on.ca Daniele Rossi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: James Davis Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 13:54:58 -0800 Subject: Re: (hats) New release!!!! JDivito334@aol.com wrote: > > Hello guys!!! > > It's official, Ivan come back with a French solo album in January. > > I have no more information for now. > > If anyone want picture of the band between 1983 to 1987 and some audio clip > (in french), let me know, I will send your personnally via E-Mail some of > them > > bye Thanks for the info! Any ideas if it'll be entitled "Return of the Logo" and include the "UFOs R Real" track (everyone remember that thread?)? Jim - -- mailto:goreal@oz.net | http://www.oz.net/~goreal/menwithouthats/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Danny Rossi Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 20:05:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: (hats) Greatest Hats I walked into Tower Recrods today (in Toronto that is) and saw "Greatest Hats" selling for $11.99!!!!!!!! What a surprise. But they had few copies. Stupid me did not buy one. I will go next week so maybe I'll wise up and buy a copy (on tape though, for the car). Someone from Germany sent me an e-mail asking me to get a copy for him--I am sorry that I lost your e-mail address (and name!), please e-mail me. In response to a previous posting: > Any ideas if it'll be entitled "Return of the Logo" and include the >"UFOs R Real" track (everyone remember that thread?)? I don't remember that thread. Probably before I subscribed. Is that an unreleased track? ........"Where can we find a duck and a hose at this hour?"............. ae752@freenet.toronto.on.ca Daniele Rossi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: "Russ Kemsley" Date: Sat, 2 Nov 96 08:40:05 UT Subject: (hats) Video I just have to publicly thank Tom for his efforts on this FANTASTIC video! The live footage just blew me away. Thanks, Tom! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: kellye Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 10:34:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: (hats) pop goes the world a few of you have responded to my request for pop goes the world.have not heard from yall in a while and wanted to make sure that everything is still set. please let me know! kellye # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: ElKrupla@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 12:15:49 -0500 Subject: (hats) re:New Release!!!! <> YES!!! It's been a great year! Collection, Greatest Hats (which I need to get, but still...), the Video, and now.... <> But you will, of course, make sure to tell us when you hear more...Until then I will eagerly await your news. Bruce: Was this what The Great One wanted to talk to you about? Dave K. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: JDivito334@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:20:04 -0500 Subject: (hats) Pictures from 1983 to 1988 Due to a lot of request, I have no choice. I will scan all the pictures I have from the hats between 1983 to 1988. I will let you know when everything will be ready... Bye bye Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Danny Rossi Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 00:29:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: (hats) www.cdnow.com I browsed the online record store, CDNOW, and saw that they are selling "Rhythm of Youth"! It's not a cd, it's a cassette. For the low price of $4.98! Weird how the track listing is different. It doesn't have the reprise of "The Great Ones Remember" and it starts off with "Cocorricci (Tango Des Valeurs)" (sp) and ends with "Ban The Game". ........"Where can we find a duck and a hose at this hour?"............. ae752@freenet.toronto.on.ca Daniele Rossi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Steven Enz Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 04:12:53 -0800 Subject: (hats) New Release..IMHO > It's official, Ivan (will be coming) back with a French solo album in January. Wow! Where did you find that out? When I hear about something like this I cant help but wonder; "Whats it gonna be like?". Do any among us dare to speculate aloud? "I" sayeth me! And so here go I... Let us analyse the situation. Rumors have abounded about academia in the art of film. Five years beyond Sideways is certainly enough for our hero to have obtained that piece of paper. If so, why a new album but not a new film? I think the answer lies in his last work of art more than anything. Most of us realize that Sideways was an attempt at breaking out of a pigeon hole. There may have been a little something to prove to his critics as well, no? My personal belief is that the "art" took a bit of a back seat to these intentions. Now with new ideas gleaned and fostered by his scholastic experience he returns. Finding himself free of those "Synth" shackles and having nothing to prove, (ie "I can play guitar too, see!") Ivan discovers he has more to say... My prediction, then, is for an alternative sort of thing. Perhaps with elements of Smashing Pumpkins and They Might Be Giants. Guitar? Most definately! But at a more controlled level. Synth? perhaps a little, but not not noticably. Traditional instruments, violins, piano? Sure! Not so traditional ones like an accordian, a gazoo and a soccer whistle? Why not! But most important, IT WILL INCLUDE ART!!! On the other hand maybe he's just trying to drum up cash to fund a film project! Oh well, c'est la vie. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Kevin Gamble Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 09:15:47 -0600 Subject: (hats) www.cdnow.com -Reply >>I browsed the online record store, CDNOW, and saw that they are selling "Rhythm of Youth"! It's not a cd, it's a cassette. For the low price of $4.98! Weird how the track listing is different.<< The cassette version (at that low price) has been available for years, at least in the US; I don't think the tape ever went out of print. Funny about the track listing, though--I have a tape copy I bought a year or so ago, and the track listing is normal, so I wonder if the CDNow listing is a mistake. The sound quality on my cassette is excellent, btw, so it's worth tracking down if you can't wait for the CD. I finally got the Collection CD for my birthday last month, and it's great (thanks to Swahili Steve for tiding me over). One thing it's done has been to give me a greater appreciation for "Living in China"--I was never really into that song before, but now I really dig it. Still hoping to hear "Great Ones Remember" on CD, though... :-) Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: GARBOWSKI JR CHARLES R Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:25:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: (hats) missed messages To the listmaster: (Sorry to send this to the whole list). Could the list master please forward me the messages for the past few days. My e-mail was down and the last message I got was from Thomas Norman, dated the 29th of October and the subject was (hats) Videotape Progress. Any messages from then on I missed. My e-mail is working again now so I was hoping I could get what I missed. Thanks. Charlie P.S. Kellye: those tapes are done I just have to write up the track lists and send them...won't be too long. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Danny Rossi Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:50:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: (hats) What will Ivan sound like after all these years?.... > My prediction, then, is for an alternative sort of thing. Perhaps with > elements of Smashing Pumpkins and They Might Be Giants. Guitar? Most > definately! But at a more controlled level. Synth? perhaps a little, but Maybe not alternative. Remember, the album is in french so I guess he's aiming for the Quebecois market and also France. Taking today's popular music charts (that is Europe's), I'm gonna contradict myself here and say maybe he'll be a cross between "RoY" meets Celine Dion, Roch Voisine, and a few guitar riffs. Not to say that Ivan will conform to what is popular, but I think, after hearingthe diffenret styles of MWH's albums, that could be the next style? As long as Ivan doesn't scream in his songs.... > not not noticably. Traditional instruments, violins, piano? Sure! Not > so traditional ones like an accordian, a gazoo and a soccer whistle? Why A soccer whistle! COOL! I'd love to hear Ivan's rendition of "Safety Dance" on one of those! > On the other hand maybe he's just trying to drum up cash to fund a film > project! Oh well, c'est la vie. ....a soundtrack? Boy, talk about jumping to conclusions! I'd make a great tabloid reporter. ........"Where can we find a duck and a hose at this hour?"............. ae752@freenet.toronto.on.ca Daniele Rossi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of hats Digest V2 #7 ************************ To subscribe to hats Digest, send the command: subscribe hats-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-hats": subscribe hats-digest local-hats@your.domain.net A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "hats-digest" in the commands above with "hats". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/hats/archive. These are organized by date.