From: hats-owner@xmission.com To: hats-digest@xmission.com Subject: hats Digest V2 #9 Reply-To: hats@xmission.com Errors-To: hats-owner@xmission.com Precedence: hats Digest Sunday, 8 December 1996 Volume 02 : Number 009 In this issue: (hats) Men Without Hats Day (hats) MWH on CD...read me! (hats) CD update (hats) CD Update, Vol. 2 (hats) 3 CDs left to go... (hats) 50 CDs... (hats) Video Update (hats) videotape progress (hats) Concert/Freeways cd's Re: (hats) MWH on CD...read me! (hats) Tom's temporary e-mail address (hats) Re: Tom's temporary e-mail address (hats) Living in China 12" (hats) Videotape Progress (hats) Greatest hats flaw (hats) Re: video tape Re: (hats) Re: video tape Re: (hats) Re: video tape Re: (hats) Greatest hats flaw (hats) Videotapes Beyond 50 (hats) Prints of MWH '88 Pix Available! (hats) Pop Goes the Radio (hats) MWH 5/5/88 Pix Info See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the hats or hats-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:27:40 -0700 (MST) Subject: (hats) Men Without Hats Day > Note to Lazlo: Regardless of whether or not the *size* of the digest is > cumbersome or not, the fact that I receive it only about once a week is cause > for some frustration. It's hard to keep up a thread under such > circumstances. Couldn't you please return it to a daily issue? I'm afraid the only way to do that is broken on xmission right now. Maybe when they upgrade to majordomo 1.94 I'll be able to set things up that way. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Tempe Video Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 13:33:08 -0400 Subject: (hats) MWH on CD...read me! Greetings, fellow Hatters! Apologies up front for the long post, but = I think you'll like it... I've been on this list for a year or so and have remained fairly = quiet with regards to all of the talk about the Men Without Hats = "bootleg" CDs that Mike Best was planning. As a fan myself, I had = contacted Mike just before he lost his job about doing some graphic = design work for the CDs. Well, recently I acquired a 4x CD burner for my home video business = and, with the help of Tom Norman, have compiled 3 CDs of rare = material. Basically, we have picked up where Mike left off. The best = news is that not only have we "compiled" this material, but I have = already mastered them and burned CDs for myself and Tom! Yes, the = wait is over...! Before I continue, I must stress to everyone that I am decidedly = ANTI-BOOTLEG in all regards. I am a low-budget film director and in = my business, bootlegging is rampant and costs myself and my peers = untold amounts of money each year. That said, I can happily announce = to you that I have not put the hard work and time into mastering = these CDs to make a profit. Like Tom with his video compilation, I = have done this out of my love for Men Without Hats and because no one = else is making this material available. The CDs I am about to offer = are NOT FOR SALE OR PROFIT. Please do not contact me about purchasing = these in any sort of quantity for resale, etc. In fairness to Carl from Oglio I have not collected or used any of = his material. While I have masters for a 2-on-1 RHYTHM/FOLK CD at my = disposal, I will NOT be offering this material since the forthcoming = release can easily be imported to the U.S. (I would rather have the = original in nice full-color packaging, myself...) So...what DO I have, you ask? 1. FREEWAYS This is basically a CD version of the Canadian FREEWAYS cassette with = some bonus material to pad out the 74 mins. Tom Norman compiled each = cut from the best sources available to him. For instance, "Modern(e) = Dancing," "Utter Space" and "Security (Everybody Feels Better With)" = are taken from his rare Statik RHYTHM OF YOUTH CD. The 1980 version = of "Antarctica" and "Freeways (Euromix)" are from virgin vinyl = (believe me, you can't tell). Three other mixes of "Freeways" are = from his original cassette. The other tracks are dance/extended mixes = of "Pop Goes The World" and "Moonbeam" (3 of each). 2. RHYTHM OF YOUTH LIVE 1983 11 tracks taken from MWH's 1983 tour... The Safety Dance I Like Where Do The Boys Go? Ideas For Walls The Great Ones Remember Messiahs Die Young Freeways Security (Everybody Feels Better With) I Got The Message Modern(e) Dancing Things In My Life 3. FREEWAYS LIVE 1985 14 tracks recorded live in 1985 at "Le Spectrum" Concert Montreal... Heaven I Know Their Name Antarctica Modern(e) Dancing I Sing Last/Not For Tears Jenny Wore Black Freeways Security (Everybody Feels Better With) Ban The Game I Like Editions Of You The Safety Dance I Got The Message Where Do The Boys Go? This material was all taken from DAT into my Power Mac, where the = heads and tails were trimmed and/or faded and the levels normalized = for maximum volume without peaking. I have gone to the liberty of = creating inserts/tray liners for the CDs, all color-coded and = containing complete track lists and times. (The FREEWAYS CD also = includes all of the liner notes from Tom's cassette.) So there you have it. I'm not sure how to go about offering these. I = had at first considered having all of you send me blank CD-Rs + = postage stamps so that no money exchanged hands, but the two people I = have chatted with via e-mail about this proposal find it inconvenient = and potentially costly. So, I will work it this way: Blank CD-Rs currently cost me $7.50 ea. With a label and colored = paper for the inserts, you've got approx. another 50=A2. So the CDs = will be $8 ea. plus a flat $3 for return Priority Mail to you. I = would prefer to do them in sets (all 3 CDs at one time), which works = out to be $27 per set with postage. I will be limiting them to 50 = sets a'la Tom's tape...so first come, first served. If you are interested in acquiring these CDs, e-mail privately and = we'll make the arrangements. Finally, if anyone knows how to get in touch with Ivan and Co., I = would happily and at my own expense send a set of CDs to them. It's = my hope that they will appreciate the work and the fact that their = fans are still keeping this music alive even if greedy corporate = types won't (no, I do not refer to Carl but whoever killed the U.S. = release of the 2-on-1 CD). Regards, J.R. BOOKWALTER Tempe Video & Press Visit Tempe & E.I. Independent Cinema on the Web: http://www.tempe.holowww.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Tempe Video Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 20:13:02 -0400 Subject: (hats) CD update Hello all... Well, in the space of a few short hours we're up to 24 sets of CDs already. So, if you want them, cast your e-mails today. I've even been contacted by someone on the list who claims to have Ivan's phone number and will be passing along a message regarding the CDs. I'll keep my fingers crossed that he will receive them favorably... Regards, J.R. BOOKWALTER Tempe Video & Press Visit Tempe & E.I. Independent Cinema on the Web: http://www.tempe.holowww.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Tempe Video Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 23:28:18 -0400 Subject: (hats) CD Update, Vol. 2 Hello again, list-folk! We're up to 34 of the aforementioned 3-CD set as of this writing. I'm going to start burning CDs tomorrow morning...even with a quad-speed burner this is going to take awhile! But, fear not...I'll get to everyone as the orders come in. Please make sure to include your address when you send in your order... A second connection to Ivan has also surfaced, so there's a good chance that The Man Without A Hat will join us all in partaking of this "made by fans for fans" collection. Finally, I have it on good authority that some never-before-released MWH material will be coming my way soon. So, there may yet be another CD to add to this collection. More on this as news develops... That is all. Regards, J.R. BOOKWALTER Tempe Video & Press Visit Tempe & E.I. Independent Cinema on the Web: http://www.tempe.holowww.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Tempe Video Date: Sat, 23 Nov 96 16:53:46 -0400 Subject: (hats) 3 CDs left to go... Hi all, We're up to 47 sets of the 3 CDs at this writing. So, only three more slots left to fill. After that, I'll have to defer anyone else until I get the others filled (although I have been contacted by someone who's offered to help burn addt'l CDs, so that's an option as well). If I have contacted you with the price and address to send the $$ to, then you are confirmed and don't need to do anything else. If anyone else wants this set, there's only 3 more spaces left...! Regards, J.R. BOOKWALTER Tempe Video & Press Visit Tempe & E.I. Independent Cinema on the Web: http://www.tempe.holowww.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Tempe Video Date: Sun, 24 Nov 96 16:56:44 -0400 Subject: (hats) 50 CDs... Hi again all... We've reached the magic number...50 sets of CDs have been "ordered". No promises after that, so please hold off sending me any more orders until I finish up with these... Regards, J.R. BOOKWALTER Tempe Video & Press Visit Tempe & E.I. Independent Cinema on the Web: http://www.tempe.holowww.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Thomas Norman Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:58:46 -0500 Subject: (hats) Video Update OK, I'm over the #30 point, thats videos by the way. If you are #20-#30, and still without a video, I am mailing the next 5 Tuesdayish. #30-#40 -- Go ahead and send checks, i'll get started on your tapes this week. Contributers: At #50, I will definately send all original tapes back to original owners. From that point on, i'll start dubbing off of my copy. This should speed things up 10 fold as well. Just a note to all hatters: If you think the video waas great, J.R.'s CDs have me beat! This means definately get them!!! I give them an A+ on quality! I give my video a C+, get it? They are that REAL. Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Thomas Norman Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:00:47 -0500 Subject: (hats) videotape progress Hi. I am out of mailers and am going out of town tommorow. #25-#30 will probably go out some time early next week. I definately wanted to get this e-mail out before I left so people are not waiting by their mailboxes. Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: ElKrupla@aol.com Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 00:21:34 -0500 Subject: (hats) Concert/Freeways cd's These are great! Those of you in line, they're well worth the wait. Excellant sound quality (I am fairly easy to please, but these pass my full-volume headphones test without sign of cassette warble), great packaging! I was pleasantly surprised to see the labeling on the cd itself. Obviously a labor of love! And I finally got to hear a live version of one of my favorite songs: Ideas for Walls. I have only one (bizarre) request. For some strange reason ever since the days of Folk 3 I have had a desire to see the Hats logo on a purple background. If there are any more fan-generated releases forthcoming, please consider a purple cover. (The colors used were, of course, good choices. Especially Freeways.) Dave K. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: jupiter-8@juno.com (Rod MacQuarrie) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 17:16:09 EST Subject: Re: (hats) MWH on CD...read me! WOW! You Men Without Hats fans are in for a treat! I just received my CD's today and they are absolutely fantastic! The care that went into the packaging down to the mastering is just incredible - the detail put into this package is a labor of love for one of the best bands the world has ever known - or at least us on this list :) I haven't listened to everything yet but the quality is quite impressive. I'm playing them back on my $1700 Genelec studio monitors and the clarity is impeccable. Thanks J.R. for all you've done to make this possible! At long last I have some of the rarest MWH stuff on CD. Now if that 2-fer would just hurry and come out!!! Rod # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: NormanDR@aol.com Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 18:45:40 -0500 Subject: (hats) Tom's temporary e-mail address Hello all, -- TOM (tnorman@mail.netwalk.com) here. I will be at this e-mail address until Sunday, Sept 1. Feel free to e-mail me at this address. Since I don't have everyone's individual e-mail address here, I have to address a couple of people: J.R. - I got your CDs, thanks! Please e-mail me at this address. Greg (shriekman) - Did you get the videos? Please reply at this address as well. To everyone: I've been busy busy, just had someone move in etc. I will try and not only get those next 5 tapes mailed, but get on the next 10 as soon as possible. Tom normandr@aol.com (tnorman@mail.netwalk.com) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: NormanDR@aol.com Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 09:47:23 -0500 Subject: (hats) Re: Tom's temporary e-mail address OOOPPPS. Thats Dec 1, not Sept. 1. I'll be back at my old e-mail address next week. Tom normandr@aol.com (tnorman@mail.netwalk.com) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Danny Rossi Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 20:43:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: (hats) Living in China 12" Today ina used record store, I came across the 12" of "Living In China". It costs $12. I was going to buy it only to scan the cover (I like having a collection of picture sleeves ), but I don't think I want to keep it. I already have the song, etc. I wouldn't mind the picture disk! So, I will buy it (and then scan it) if someone here on the list wants it. So, I'll buy it for them. Or maybe a trade? Anyone have an extra picture disc? better for the American fans here since the US dollar is better the Canadian :) So all I lose is the price of postage which shouldn't be that much. ........"Where can we find a duck and a hose at this hour?"............. ae752@freenet.toronto.on.ca Daniele Rossi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Thomas Norman Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:21:44 -0500 Subject: (hats) Videotape Progress Hello, Tom here (videotape guy). For those of you that are waiting for the video, I just mailed your tapes. I know this is about a week late. I basically skipped a trip to the post office. On the other hand, I didn't stop copying tapes. In other words, I just mailed off #25-#42 all at once. I am caught up now. Those of you that are 25-42, your tapes will be at your doorstep by Tues or Wed. Enjoy! #43-#50.... You can send your $10 now. Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Danny Rossi Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 19:56:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: (hats) Greatest hats flaw The other day I bought "Greatest Hats". Thsi is a question to everyone who bought it: does your copy have the dropout in "Freeways"? It was fantastic hearing it on CD--so differnet from vinyl! If you listen closely you cna hear a tiny pop from the vinyl! :) ........"Where can we find a duck and a hose at this hour?"............. ae752@freenet.toronto.on.ca Daniele Rossi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Thomas Norman Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 08:18:43 -0500 Subject: (hats) Re: video tape At 04:21 PM 12/6/96 +0000, you wrote: >I'm new to the list. What is this about a video tape? > >--Howard Abraham >============================================ >SpiderweBB >Home of CraftGen! >============================================ Well. We've got a bootleg video of Men Without Hats (2 hrs.). We all got our rare footage together and copied it onto one tape, basically. Here is the tape: I. Freeways Concert Video (Canadian TV) - 60 min II. 8 MWH videos (SD,IL,WDTBG,PGTW,Moon,21st,HM,Side) - 30min III. Various interviews - 30min not in that order but its all there. To the list: Since there are many people new to the list who want a copy, can someone make some copies from their tape? When I hit 50, I am sending the original tapes back. I will make some copies off of my copy, but I could use some help. I guess its GOOD that i've got like 20 more people who want a copy. This means that we are all exposing the band a bit more. Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: freeze@tiac.net Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 09:00:54 +0000 Subject: Re: (hats) Re: video tape I hate to be a demanding-newbie... but if someone is willing to make a copy for me I would much appreciate it. ============================================ SpiderweBB Home of CraftGen! ============================================ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: heidi@bronze.lcs.mit.edu (Heidi) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 10:46:02 -0500 Subject: Re: (hats) Re: video tape From: Thomas Norman Since there are many people new to the list who want a copy, can someone make some copies from their tape? When I hit 50, I am sending the original tapes back. I will make some copies off of my copy, but I could use some help. Awhile ago I posted and said I was looking to sell my copy. I watched it once and it's not something I expect to watch again. There's nothing wrong with the tape, it's just doesn't have much of the era of MWOH that I like. So if anyone wants it send me (not the list) mail. =}{= (heidi@bronze.lcs.mit.edu) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 11:12:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: (hats) Greatest hats flaw From: BOS::MYKEC "LORD HASENPFEFFER" 7-DEC-1996 10:41:29.35 To: IN%"ae752@freenet.toronto.on.ca" CC: MYKEC Subj: RE: (hats) Greatest hats flaw A tiny pop from the vinyl? Damn! ;-) I've never heard "Freeways" in any format. In fact, before I joined this list, I'd never even heard of it. Spoiled you are! (But don't take that personally, I'm just making a point.) Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 11:13:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: (hats) Videotapes Beyond 50 From: BOS::MYKEC "LORD HASENPFEFFER" 7-DEC-1996 10:52:52.85 To: IN%"majordomo@xmission.com" CC: MYKEC Subj: Videotapes Beyond 50 I am in the last group set to receive a master video compilation from Tom. When I receive mine, I will be willing to make further copies of it for those who are either new to the list or could not make the first 50. I have 2 HiFi VCRs that are each about 1 year old and in very good condition. To receive a copy from me, you should mail to me a self-addressed, stamped videotape mailer (with at least $3.20 (US) postage stuck on it) along with a check or money order valued at $3.00. I will use the money to buy a good quality videotape for you onto which I will copy the MWH material prior to mailing it in the mailer you sent for me to use. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 16:05:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: (hats) Prints of MWH '88 Pix Available! I don't know how much it'll cost me to make prints directly from my negatives, but I'm about to find out now. If you are interested in having your own prints of the MWH pix that I scanned and uploaded to my web site, post me a note! Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: BDay0000@aol.com Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 23:11:49 -0500 Subject: (hats) Pop Goes the Radio Hatters, 99X, the local Atlanta GenX FM station played the song Pop Goes The World last Sunday afternoon during its 80's show. Thought you might like to know... =] Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 15:02:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: (hats) MWH 5/5/88 Pix Info The fine folx at Wal-Mart have done an excellent job with my negatives! There are 18 4x6 prints in all. I can get a complete set of them made for you and mailed to you (within the US) for only $10. This price includes the nifty little, vinyl "Always" photo booklet Wal-Mart sells for an additional $0.97.. Post me a note if you are interested. Myke mykec@delphi.com http://people.delphi.com/mykec # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of hats Digest V2 #9 ************************ To subscribe to hats Digest, send the command: subscribe hats-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". 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