From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #999 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Friday, March 1 2002 Volume 01 : Number 999 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: "BEVER FEVOR" -       Re: MtMan-List: "BEVER FEVOR" -       Fw: MtMan-List: corn boilers -       Re: MtMan-List: corn boilers -       Re: MtMan-List: "BEVER FEVOR" -       Re: MtMan-List: wooden barrels -       Re: MtMan-List: paint pigment -       Re: Fw: MtMan-List: corn boilers -       =?UTF-8?Q?Re:=20MtMan-List:=20wooden=20barrels?= -       =?UTF-8?Q?Re:=20MtMan-List:=20wooden=20barrels?= -       Re: MtMan-List: "BEVER FEVOR" -       RE: MtMan-List: wooden barrels -       MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #998 -       Re: MtMan-List: corn boilers -       MtMan-List: corn boilers & coffee cookers -       Re: MtMan-List: corn boilers -       Re: MtMan-List: "BEVER FEVOR" -       Re: MtMan-List: corn boilers & coffee cookers -       RE: MtMan-List: corn boilers & coffee cookers -       MtMan-List: Re: MtMan Buffalo sale -       MtMan-List: Buffalo skull ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 22:53:25 -0500 From: "WindWalker" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: "BEVER FEVOR" Giardia? might be spelled wrong.... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Noe" To: "hist_ text" Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:21 PM Subject: MtMan-List: "BEVER FEVOR" > Ho the camp ! > All this "talk" about traping bever, but nothing said > about the "G" word, Bever Fevor. > Any thoughts ?? > > > ===== > George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com > > Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the skyline. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 22:40:37 -0500 From: "WindWalker" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: "BEVER FEVOR" Drink tainted water in alaska and you sure will get it. and wish you had not.. Had it myself... once... Sam - ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Noe" To: "hist_ text" Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:21 PM Subject: MtMan-List: "BEVER FEVOR" > Ho the camp ! > All this "talk" about traping bever, but nothing said > about the "G" word, Bever Fevor. > Any thoughts ?? > > > ===== > George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com > > Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the skyline. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 22:30:12 -0600 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: Fw: MtMan-List: corn boilers Frank I had one of the big corn boilers you described and gave it to a Civil War reenanactor.....which pleased him to no end. I still have a small corn boiler which I continue to use from time to time. I had a large....one gallon......tin lined copper can made for coffee making and other chores. Imagine a Quaker Oat Meal box made of copper with a lid and a bale....a perfect cylinder. It has served yoeman's duty as a coffee kettle but sometimes is just a water reservoir. It was a tad pricey and the fellow who made it swore he wouldn't make another one so you are on your own to come up with one. You can see a similar can being used to serve coffee in A.J.Miller's painting "Trappers at Breakfast".....I'm only fairly certain of that name, now that I think of it.. Lanney - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Fusco" To: "hist_text-digest" Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 7:24 AM Subject: MtMan-List: corn boilers > A discussion has begun on another list regarding the use of tinned corn > boilers, the type with hinged lids, being correct/incorrect for the pre-1840 > period. > Recently, after being chided for the unpteenth time for using a > spatterware tapered coffee pot, I finally bought a (expensive) corn boiler > just to shut up the critics. Now I hear that it is an unknown item for > anything pre-Civil War. > So what would be correct for making coffee in a pre-1840 camp? In the > meantime I'm going to continue using my tapered coffe pot until someone > shoots it. Or me. > Frank G. Fusco > Mountain Home, Arkansas > http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ozarksmuzzleloaders > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 20:32:38 -0700 From: "Thomas Ballstaedt" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: corn boilers frank; I would guess they used a straight sided sheet iron cooking kettle. if an individual or mess had more than one pot or a nest of kettles. i would think it would be the one, not being used to cook the meal. tom - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Fusco" To: "hist_text-digest" Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:24 AM Subject: MtMan-List: corn boilers > A discussion has begun on another list regarding the use of tinned corn > boilers, the type with hinged lids, being correct/incorrect for the pre-1840 > period. > Recently, after being chided for the unpteenth time for using a > spatterware tapered coffee pot, I finally bought a (expensive) corn boiler > just to shut up the critics. Now I hear that it is an unknown item for > anything pre-Civil War. > So what would be correct for making coffee in a pre-1840 camp? In the > meantime I'm going to continue using my tapered coffe pot until someone > shoots it. Or me. > Frank G. Fusco > Mountain Home, Arkansas > http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ozarksmuzzleloaders > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 22:38:08 -0500 From: "traprjon" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: "BEVER FEVOR" Ho the List, Guardia is a disease caused, I believe, by parasites in beaver droppings which occurs in the water, and a human's subsequent consumption of that contaminated water. It will make you deathly ill for a few days, and the prevention of it is NEVER drink un-boiled or un-treated (or both) water. Always boil and or treat water in nature with water purification tablets!!! Something I don't think the original mountain men had to worry too much about. In my trap shed I use latex gloves, on a primitive camp I don't, but wash up well with an anti-bacterial soap after skinning, and use a clean knife to remove edible meat. Sincerely, John Enos TrapRJohn traprjon@attbi.com "The saddest epitaph which can be carved in memory of a vanished liberty, is that it was lost because it's possessors failed to stretch forth a saving hand, while yet there was time." -- Justice George Sutherland, 1938 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Noe" To: "hist_ text" Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:21 PM Subject: MtMan-List: "BEVER FEVOR" > Ho the camp ! > All this "talk" about traping bever, but nothing said > about the "G" word, Bever Fevor. > Any thoughts ?? > > > ===== > George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com > > Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the skyline. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 22:25:37 EST From: JSeminerio@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: wooden barrels - --part1_122.cf3acc1.29adabb1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Albie I would try wineries. They still use barrels and lots of them Hope it helps John - --part1_122.cf3acc1.29adabb1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Albie
I would try wineries.  They still use barrels and lots of them

Hope it helps
John - --part1_122.cf3acc1.29adabb1_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 19:00:06 -0800 From: Rick Guglielmi Subject: Re: MtMan-List: paint pigment - --=====================_1362203==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Barney, thanks, I will let youknowhow things turn out Rick At 02:19 AM 02/26/2002 -0500, you wrote: >In a message dated 2/25/2002 7:18:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, >rickg@oregontrail.net writes: > > >>I would like to find a good source for doing large sizes >>for shelters, pack gear, etc. > > >Rick, Here are some sources you can contact online: > >RGH Artists' Oil Paints >(avail in pounds) > >OCHRE PIGMENTS >(nativewayonline.com leads to sources) > >Natural Earth Pigments -New Riverside >Ochre (ochre mining/processor) > >Hope these are of some help. Barney - --=====================_1362203==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Barney,

thanks, I will let youknowhow things turn out

Rick


At 02:19 AM 02/26/2002 -0500, you wrote:
In a message dated 2/25/2002 7:18:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, rickg@oregontrail.net writes:


I would like to find a good source for doing large sizes
for shelters, pack gear, etc.


Rick, Here are some sources you can contact online:

RGH Artists' Oil Paints (avail in pounds)

OCHRE PIGMENTS (nativewayonline.com leads to sources)

Natural Earth Pigments -New Riverside Ochre (ochre mining/processor)

Hope these are of some help.   Barney
- --=====================_1362203==_.ALT-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 16:06:14 EST From: NaugaMok@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: MtMan-List: corn boilers - --part1_18c.403d7f8.29aea446_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/27/02 8:12:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, amm1585@hyperusa.com writes: > You can see a similar can being used to serve coffee > in A.J.Miller's painting "Trappers at Breakfast".....I'm only fairly certain > of that name, now that I think of it.. > After taking a look through "The West of Alfred Jacob Miller" I didn't find that particular painting. I did find "Breakfast at Sunrise", but the "coffee" pot is tucked under a trapper's arm pouring his partners a fresh cup. However nearly every trapper's camp scene Miller painted that's in this book, has a rather large cylindrical pot hanging from a tripod over the fire. There are usually racks of ribs along side the fires as well, so, from what we know of the trapper's diet, maybe we could speculate (and probably eventually get in trouble for it) the pot has coffee in it. NM - --part1_18c.403d7f8.29aea446_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/27/02 8:12:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, amm1585@hyperusa.com writes:


You can see a similar can being used to serve coffee
in A.J.Miller's painting "Trappers at Breakfast".....I'm only fairly certain
of that name, now that I think of it..


After taking a look through "The West of Alfred Jacob Miller" I didn't find that particular painting.  I did find "Breakfast at Sunrise", but the "coffee" pot is tucked under a trapper's arm pouring his partners a fresh cup.  However nearly every trapper's camp scene Miller painted that's in this book, has a rather large cylindrical pot hanging from a tripod over the fire.  There are usually racks of ribs along side the fires as well, so, from what we know of the trapper's diet, maybe we could speculate (and probably eventually get in trouble for it) the pot has coffee in it.

NM - --part1_18c.403d7f8.29aea446_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:48:00 EST From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:=20MtMan-List:=20wooden=20barrels?= In a message dated 2/26/02 6:57:56 PM, albie@clarityconnect.com writes: << I have a friend that ask me if I could find info on the internet relative= =20 to barrel milling. >> Albie, Try putting "cooperage" in your search engine.... There are quite a few=20 barrel makers around that should be able to help you. Here's a few... Magpie Welcome to Independent Stave Company Canton Cooperage-Bar= rels Zaroski's Cooperage -buckets,=20 barrels, museum d=E2=80=A6 - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:48:00 EST From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:=20MtMan-List:=20wooden=20barrels?= In a message dated 2/26/02 6:57:56 PM, albie@clarityconnect.com writes: << I have a friend that ask me if I could find info on the internet relative= =20 to barrel milling. >> Albie, Try putting "cooperage" in your search engine.... There are quite a few=20 barrel makers around that should be able to help you. Here's a few... Magpie Welcome to Independent Stave Company Canton Cooperage-Bar= rels Zaroski's Cooperage -buckets,=20 barrels, museum d=E2=80=A6 - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:46:13 -0500 From: "WindWalker" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: "BEVER FEVOR" " reply to > Ho the List, > Guardia is a disease caused, I believe, by parasites in beaver droppings > which occurs in the water, and a human's subsequent consumption of that > contaminated water. when i got it I was area that had no Beaver.. its a 'term' so used to call the illness. It has alway been around and thus called many things. Mountainman reports as well as expiditions reported people with "dropsy" and advanced diarehea. Several ManDan camps were so affected at varoius times. Our tribal clan used slippery elm bark to free the nastys from system. Much like ole worm treatments..Some forms of sumac were also used in attmept to treat illness. Medicine Men today in Oklahoma treat using "tobacco" as one step. followed by turtle shell rite. Its very un nerving if you have it as you loose all pucker power. Water filters using a .5 micron filter are best to trey to evade the problem. Rivers which have salmon runs every year are a prime place to get it Signs posted in wilderness areas often warn about Giardia in streams. Commonly found in wild animals such as the beaver, and decaying material this graceful, flagellated organism may infect unwary hikers. But giardiasis can also be contracted via contaminated foods. It is identifiable microscopically by the appearance of two "eyes" that are actually a pair of nuclei, seen in the phase contrast image (left). Giardia uses a ventral suction cup, seen in the differential interference contrast image (right), to attach to its host's intestinal epithelium. There is some evidence that a heavy infection of attached Giardia physically blocks the important transport of nutrients across the epithelium. Visit the FDA's Bad Bug Book for a further description of Giardia, including information about its transmission. Found mostly is streams that have a salmon run everyyear.Avanced stages can last for weeks. Dehydration is of major concern to suffers. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 09:24:32 -0800 From: "De Santis, Nick" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: wooden barrels This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1BFB3.9E616A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Albie, Try a web search on barrel cooper. Nick - -----Original Message----- From: Al Klossner [mailto:albie@clarityconnect.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:34 AM To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Subject: MtMan-List: wooden barrels Hello, Im not sure if you can help but this is the first site i've found on wooden barrel. I have a friend that ask me if I could find info on the internet relative to barrel milling. He has found an old barrel sawmill and needs any onfo that may be around to get it functioning again. It's quite complex but has most of the steel components . If you can't help maybe you steer us in the right direction. Thanks albie - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1BFB3.9E616A00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi Albie,
 
Try a web search on barrel cooper.
 
Nick
-----Original Message-----
From: Al Klossner [mailto:albie@clarityconnect.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:34 AM
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
Subject: MtMan-List: wooden barrels

Hello,
 Im not sure if you can help but this is the first site i've found on wooden barrel. I have a friend that ask me if I could find info on the internet relative to barrel milling. He has found an old barrel sawmill and needs any onfo that may be around to get it functioning again. It's quite complex but has most of the steel components . If you can't help maybe you steer us in the right direction. Thanks albie
- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1BFB3.9E616A00-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 09:23:50 -0700 From: Dennis Knapp Subject: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #998 > Were would be a good source for paint pigment. Thanks, Rick Rick, Try going to a feed mill in your area. Some feed mills use colored iron oxides (reds, browns, yellow, black, etc.) in their feed manufacturing. It will probably be very inexpensive. Dennis Knapp aka Sticher in southern Idaho - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 08:13:25 -0800 From: ALAN AVERY Subject: Re: MtMan-List: corn boilers Hi Frank, I was following that discussion also. The boilers they are referring to as Civil War era are the ones with the attached side handle, (looks sort of like a big tin mug with a bail and sometimes a hinged lid.) These boilers have been sold by a number of suppliers for a long time. Apparently they are a Confederate Army style, (according to Goose Bay Workshops). I have asked a Civil War fanatic that I know about this, and will post his reply if you like. As far as straight-sided boilers not being documentable for before the Civil War, I have to take issue with that, as the Hudson Bay Co certainly was selling straight-sided copper pots in the 1700's. That doesn't mean that they were in the RMFT, but interaction between HBC and the free trapppers was not unknown, (didn't HBC actually attend some rendezvous?) so a straight-sided copper pot COULD be correct. (If they'd a had em - they'd a used em!! ) As far as your enamelware coffee pot goes, as long as it's full and the coffee's hot, I wont complain!! Black Knife Alan Avery - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Fusco" To: "hist_text-digest" Sent: February 26, 2002 5:24 AM Subject: MtMan-List: corn boilers > A discussion has begun on another list regarding the use of tinned corn > boilers, the type with hinged lids, being correct/incorrect for the pre-1840 > period. > Recently, after being chided for the unpteenth time for using a > spatterware tapered coffee pot, I finally bought a (expensive) corn boiler > just to shut up the critics. Now I hear that it is an unknown item for > anything pre-Civil War. > So what would be correct for making coffee in a pre-1840 camp? In the > meantime I'm going to continue using my tapered coffe pot until someone > shoots it. Or me. > Frank G. Fusco > Mountain Home, Arkansas > http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ozarksmuzzleloaders > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 21:14:11 -0600 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: MtMan-List: corn boilers & coffee cookers . You can see a similar can being used to serve coffee > in A.J.Miller's painting "Trappers at Breakfast".....I'm only fairly certain > of that name, now that I think of it.. I believe it is "Breakfast at Sunrise". http://pantheon.cis.yale.edu/~thomast/art/mess.html The cylindrical can slightly visible in that painting and others like it that can be seen (more clearly) hanging over fires in other paintings is exactly the model for my kettle...."for coffee making and other chores". I made no "if they'd had it they'd have used it" presumption about it's use as a coffee pot. Miller described the scene with these words: "The sketch represents 'our mess' at the morning meal and Francois pouring out the coffee". Since coffee was available during the RMFT, presuming it might be consumed at sunrise seems reasonable. Mine has certainly been used for that pleasant chore, among others. I hope I'm not coming off as a grumpy old man.....which I am. I have come down with Bell's Palsey and the left side of my face is partially paralyzed. The sawbones says it will almost certainly go away, but until it does I am certain to not be the chipper little elf that I usually am. Lanney Ratcliff .amm1585@hyperusa.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 19:16:26 EST From: CTOAKES@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: corn boilers <> Technicaly they did not brew the coffee in what we consider to be a coffee pot. It was made in any cooking pot, brass, iron, tin that they used to make other things like soup or stews. Then it was served in a Coffee pot if you had the money/status that would allow you to have a silver coffee pot. This is according to my wife that eaches 18th century cooking at the 3rd largest village museum in the U.S. So boil it up in you cook pot then serve it in your saucer/bowl not a coffee cup. Y.M.O.S. C.T.Oakes - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 18:29:49 EST From: LivingInThePast@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: "BEVER FEVOR" - --part1_5a.7444ed0.29aec5ed_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/27/2002 2:50:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, windwalker@fastmail.fm writes: Commonly found in wild animals such as the beaver... Found mostly is streams > that have a salmon run every year Maybe I missed it in one of the previous posts, but it's my understanding that Giardia is also found in virtually ALL waters frequented by livestock (wild) or waters affected by the runoff of commercial farming operations. (With all the sheep in Scotland, I'm sure glad Scotch is made from well filtered water ). Advise I was given was: "If you're not drinking directly from the headwater of a stream, spring, etc., PUR-I-FY OR WISH-TO-DIE." Barney - --part1_5a.7444ed0.29aec5ed_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/27/2002 2:50:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, windwalker@fastmail.fm writes:
 
  Commonly found in wild animals such as the beaver... Found mostly is streams
that have a salmon run every yea
r

Maybe I missed it in one of the previous posts, but it's my understanding that Giardia is also found in virtually ALL waters frequented by livestock (wild) or waters affected by the runoff of commercial farming operations.

(With all the sheep in Scotland, I'm sure glad Scotch is made from well filtered water <GGG>).

Advise I was given was: "If you're not drinking directly from the headwater of a stream, spring, etc.,  PUR-I-FY OR WISH-TO-DIE."

Barney - --part1_5a.7444ed0.29aec5ed_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 23:30:21 -0700 From: "Thomas Ballstaedt" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: corn boilers & coffee cookers as an interesting side note, on the A.J. miller painting, "Breakfast at sunrise". Capt. Stewart who was obviously a man of means. could well have afforded every luxury he fancied, strange, he did not have a special pot to boil coffee in. Tom - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lanney Ratcliff" To: "History List" Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 8:14 PM Subject: MtMan-List: corn boilers & coffee cookers > . You can see a similar can being used to serve coffee > > in A.J.Miller's painting "Trappers at Breakfast".....I'm only fairly > certain > > of that name, now that I think of it.. > > I believe it is "Breakfast at Sunrise". > http://pantheon.cis.yale.edu/~thomast/art/mess.html The cylindrical can > slightly visible in that painting and others like it that can be seen (more > clearly) hanging over fires in other paintings is exactly the model for my > kettle...."for coffee making and other chores". I made no "if they'd had > it they'd have used it" presumption about it's use as a coffee pot. Miller > described the scene with these words: "The sketch represents 'our mess' at > the morning meal and Francois pouring out the coffee". > Since coffee was available during the RMFT, presuming it might be consumed > at sunrise seems reasonable. Mine has certainly been used for that > pleasant chore, among others. > I hope I'm not coming off as a grumpy old man.....which I am. I have come > down with Bell's Palsey and the left side of my face is partially paralyzed. > The sawbones says it will almost certainly go away, but until it does I am > certain to not be the chipper little elf that I usually am. > > Lanney Ratcliff > .amm1585@hyperusa.com > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 21:51:53 -0800 From: Pat Quilter Subject: RE: MtMan-List: corn boilers & coffee cookers Lanney, I know at least two people who had your peculiar syndrome (Bell's Palsy), and it did indeed clear up after several weeks. Try to be of good cheer. May you recover swiftly. Best regards Pat Quilter - -----Original Message----- From: Lanney Ratcliff [mailto:amm1585@hyperusa.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 7:14 PM To: History List Subject: MtMan-List: corn boilers & coffee cookers . You can see a similar can being used to serve coffee > in A.J.Miller's painting "Trappers at Breakfast".....I'm only fairly certain > of that name, now that I think of it.. I believe it is "Breakfast at Sunrise". http://pantheon.cis.yale.edu/~thomast/art/mess.html The cylindrical can slightly visible in that painting and others like it that can be seen (more clearly) hanging over fires in other paintings is exactly the model for my kettle...."for coffee making and other chores". I made no "if they'd had it they'd have used it" presumption about it's use as a coffee pot. Miller described the scene with these words: "The sketch represents 'our mess' at the morning meal and Francois pouring out the coffee". Since coffee was available during the RMFT, presuming it might be consumed at sunrise seems reasonable. Mine has certainly been used for that pleasant chore, among others. I hope I'm not coming off as a grumpy old man.....which I am. I have come down with Bell's Palsey and the left side of my face is partially paralyzed. The sawbones says it will almost certainly go away, but until it does I am certain to not be the chipper little elf that I usually am. Lanney Ratcliff .amm1585@hyperusa.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 21:21:53 EST From: TrapRJoe@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: Re: MtMan Buffalo sale Some on this list have wrote me asking about where buffalo were selling for as little as $300.00. If anyone is interested the same people are have another auction on Mar. 15, 2002. Contact me off list for details. Ridge Pole - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 23:01:02 EST From: MarkLoader@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: Buffalo skull - --part1_d2.14779ff4.29b1a87e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Helo the camp I got the head from our buffalo hunt this last week end. Anyone have any sugestions for getting the skull free of meat and clean. Mark "Roadkill" Loader - --part1_d2.14779ff4.29b1a87e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Helo the camp
I got the head from our buffalo hunt this last week end. Anyone have any sugestions for getting the skull free of meat and clean.
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