From: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com (klf-digest) To: klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klf-digest V2 #487 Reply-To: klf-digest Sender: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes klf-digest Tuesday, October 16 2001 Volume 02 : Number 487 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 17:12:25 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart Bruce Subject: (klf) Just remembered... Just remembered what it was that I've been trying to remember as "I really should post that to the KLF list" for days now... I was out for an Indian meal last week with some of the people I work with in the editorial department at Aardman. The meal was lovely, but that's not important. We were chatting away when from the next table came the very-familiar Nokia ringing sound- the sound used in "I Wanna 1-2-1 With You". Matt, sat next to me, groaned, and explained (without me having mentioned anything about me being a KLF fan) that when he worked in London, he did the edit for the "I Wanna 1-2-1 With You" video- and while he was doing it he got *incredibly* sick of listening to the track, and particularly to that Nokia tone. Needless to say, I was mightily impressed. Apparently he will have a master beta copy of the video lying around somewhere, and so I'll gently pester him to bring it in so I can get a good copy of it. Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 17:07:24 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) Beatles/On the list...? On Sat 13 Oct, DJ Kuta wrote: > So this one goes out to Jimmy directly: Thanks for such a great remix, > hope this one will be officially available soon! Of course, the chances of this happening are probably absolutely nil. Have the Beatles ever authorised the use of a sample from their tracks being used in a dance record? (Cover versions aren't the same thing) Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 19:54:01 +0100 From: John Subject: Re: (klf) Just remembered... Stuart Bruce writes >Apparently he will have a master beta copy of the video lying around >somewhere, and so I'll gently pester him to bring it in so I can get a >good copy of it. The CD single of it (that I picked up for 99p the other day... Although I seem to recall it being offered for that price when it originally came out!) has two Quicktime versions of the video (medium and high quality). I tried using a programme that converts Quicktime files to Windows Media Files on it and the resulting file was whopping 1Gb that refused to be opened... :-( # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 19:56:31 +0100 From: John Subject: Re: (klf) Beatles/On the list...? Stuart Bruce writes >> hope this one will be officially available soon! >Of course, the chances of this happening are probably absolutely nil. >Have the Beatles ever authorised the use of a sample from their tracks >being used in a dance record? (Cover versions aren't the same thing) and also Jimmy already has a history with sampling The Beatles as the first JAMs single used 'All You Need is Love" in its original deleted pressing. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 13:03:24 -0700 From: "happy consumer" Subject: Re: (klf) America No More remix i felt the chills too. good mix john. ive got about 16 odc1 remixes that have been lying around since the end of may, that maybe 2 people on the list will be entertained with for an hour or so. hopefully an ftp will magically appear. http://www.klf.mytoday.de/ says there were server problems, and it shouldve been up by july 23. there were 4 mixes up, last time i checked. >I've just put a remixed version that I did a few weeks ago here: >http://www.fnord.demon.co.uk/23/america.mp3 - ------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 17:11:50 -0700 From: "happy consumer" Subject: (klf) RE: america no more i felt the chills too. good mix john. ive got about 16 odc1 remixes that have been lying around since the end of may, that maybe 2 people on the list will be entertained with for an hour or so. hopefully an ftp will magically appear. http://www.klf.mytoday.de/ says there were server problems, and it shouldve been up by july 23. there were 4 mixes up, last time i checked. > I've just put a remixed version that I did a few weeks ago here: > http://www.fnord.demon.co.uk/23/america.mp3 - ------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 02:24:23 EDT From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Beatles/On the list...? > Of course, the chances of this happening are probably absolutely nil. > Have the Beatles ever authorised the use of a sample from their tracks > being used in a dance record? (Cover versions aren't the same thing) Off the top of me head, I can't think of any that 'legally' sample a beatles track. McCartney has had a number of tracks remixed recently but they all have been loosly credited back to him so I wouldn't say that counts. Especially since they're not Beatle songs. - -paul Currently in rotation: Paul McCartney - Driving Rain (pre-release); Proclaimers - various; Sparks - various (man, i love this RioVolt!); VA - Listen to What the Man Said - McCartney tribute # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 03:17:29 EDT From: TRACYANDI@aol.com Subject: (klf) wierd stuff Talking about wierd coincidences, I would guess about 5 years ago , about a year before the Fuck the Millennium stuff, I was in the back of my brothers (who works for a RAC/AA type of company) car when he said he had been called out to change a tyre on some pop groups car. He said they were called 'KMN' or something (he had never heard of the KLF!) , so straight away I say to him "The KLF"?, and he goes yeah , it was some American cop car. Now I was well impressed, and wanted to know all the details, he said they had been filming round the M25, but didn't know much else. I've never seen this footage they recorded (assuming it was 'them') used. As far I was aware they wouldn't have had the cop car at that time would they? And that brings me onto the second story , the guy I work with says his old boss bought the 68 galaxy cop car off the KLF many years ago , and used to drive around north London in it all the time. Again , it was sort of mentioned without any promting from me about being a KLF fan, anyone know if any of this sounds true? H # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 23:27:04 +0200 From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: Re: (klf) Beatles/On the list...? > > So this one goes out to Jimmy directly: Thanks for such a great remix, > > hope this one will be officially available soon! > > Of course, the chances of this happening are probably absolutely nil. > Have the Beatles ever authorised the use of a sample from their tracks > being used in a dance record? (Cover versions aren't the same thing) But with the "1987" spirit... Just press them! Who cares. White labels with nothing written on it. I will buy at least one! ...you I'll find the things that you do, will make me feel alright... - -- Torsten Pattberg www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 17:42:46 +0100 From: "Derek Knight" Subject: RE: (klf) Beatles/On the list...? > Of course, the chances of this happening are probably absolutely nil. > Have the Beatles ever authorised the use of a sample from their tracks > being used in a dance record? (Cover versions aren't the same thing) Don't think so. The whole Beatles licensing thing is a total nightmare, which is why Beatles CDs are more expensive than anyone elses. There's also the fact that prize loon Michael Jackson owns the publishing rights, and that you'd have to get the somewhat uncooperative Yoko's permission. You'd also need Macca's, but he seems to be slightly more "groovy" about stuff like that. He did appear on a recent Super Furry Animals track eating celery, after all. I know that the Beastie Boys sampled When I'm 64 on the Paul's Boutique LP, but it was only the instrumental bits. Ripping off the whole of a song is a different story :o) The white label idea might well work. If it was only a limited pressing, who's gonna give a monkeys, really? V/Vm has been chucking out hundreds of illegal samples on his label, but there's so few copies available, it hasn't alerted the copyright police (or whoever it is who deals with this sort of thing!) Del - ----------------------------------- Derek Knight djnite@klf-communications.com http://www.djnite.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 19:28:56 +0100 From: John Subject: (klf) Beatles samples >> Have the Beatles ever authorised the use of a sample from their tracks >> being used I seem to recall that there might have been some snippets of Beatles tracks included on The Resident`s "Third Reich'n'Roll" album and also cunningly tucked away on various Negativland releases or one of Scott Bond`s "Boogie" albums. There are a few links to a few people who have attempted it listed via: http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=web&lang=any&query=beatles+samples&p hrase=on or http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=web&lang=any&query=beatles+sample &phrase=on or http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=web&lang=any&query=sample+of+the+ beatles&phrase=on or http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=web&lang=any&query=sampling+the+b eatles&phrase=on Such as: http://www.prodigy.geomax.net/dirtchamber.html Bands Challenged Over 60s Samples (BBC, 21 January 1999) The Prodigy’s mastermind Liam Howlett has been banned from using a Beatles sample from his new album even though Sir Paul McCartney was happy for the track to be used. Howlett, who fronts the multi-million selling dance band, had planned to use two verses and a chorus from Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band on his new album, Prodigy Present Dirtchamber Sessions Volume 1. But despite the approval of songwriter Sir Paul, the Fab Four’s record label Apple refused to give clearance for the track to be used. A spokesman for Howlett said: The record sounded great in there and we were going to include it on the commercial release of the record, but Apple wouldn’t grant us permission to licence the track. Release date delayed. Apparently Paul McCartney didn’t have any problem with it it’s simply that Apple never do let Beatles tracks appear on anything other than Beatles albums. The album features samples from around 50 tracks and the time-consuming task of getting clearance for each one of the tracks has forced the release date to be delayed. There are about 52 tracks used on this album and we’ve had to try to get clearance for them all. A lot of them are on small and hard-to-find hip-hop labels that could easily have gone out of business, the spokesman added. Apple said the decision was nothing personal against the Prodigy. The offending sample has now been replaced by one from Been Caught Stealing by US rock band Jane’s Addiction. http://www.bassquake.co.uk/breakbeat.htm Close Your Eyes (Optikonfusion!) Essential Listening! Acen (Production House 1992) Acen without a doubt made some of the best hardcore tracks back in the day. Close Your Eyes was a fantastic record, and here is a classic old remix, mixing up wicked deep strings, uplifting keyboard workouts, and dirty mean hardcore stabs to great effect, and naturally features plenty of those trademark Acen chipmunk vocals which made him famous, sampled from about a million and one different places including the insane Mr Kirk's Nightmare by 4 Hero ("Overdose"), All We Wanna Do is Dance by The House Crew ("Drop the bass!"), Mama Said Knock You Out by LL Cool J ("I'm ready, I think I'm gonna...") and of course none other than The Doors' very own Jim Morrison ("Just close your eyes"). Phew. Many versions also featured a Beatles sample in the latter half, obviously completely illegal as it's withdrawn from some pressings, but it's in this one you'll be pleased to hear. Play (28.8k streaming) | Download (909k) http://www.warr.org/boo.html Betty Boo - Grrr! It's Betty Boo (1992) "I'm On My Way," on which Boo displays her good taste: rather than sampling the Beatles' "Lady Madonna," she brings in the four musicians who played sax on the original song (including Ronnie Scott) to record the part. (DBW) http://www.samplespotter.com/godf.html The Dust Brothers: Pretty fly for white guys, the Dust Brothers have been churning out their funky creations for over ten years now and have been the behind- the-scenes masterminds of a number of landmark sample-based productions (Tone Loc's Van-Halen sampling "Wild Thing", Beastie Boys' magnum opus "Paul's Boutique" and Beck's "Odelay" to name just three). Their sampling tastes have been pretty eclectic, embracing everything sentimental Irish balladeer Phil Coulter to redneck rockers Black Oak Arkansas during the course of their career. Also, because they got into the sampling game before the legal profession worked out a way to get itself a slice of the action, they have managed to pull off quite a few coups such as sampling the Beatles extensively (Beastie Boys' "Sounds of Science"); try doing that now and you'll soon find yourself selling the Big Issues after Apple Records' attorneys put you over a barrell and re- enact the love scene from "Deliverance". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:17:18 +0100 From: "Phil Blake" Subject: RE: (klf) wierd stuff > Talking about wierd coincidences, I would guess about 5 years ago > , about a > year before the Fuck the Millennium stuff, I was in the back of > my brothers > (who works for a RAC/AA type of company) car when he said he had > been called > out to change a tyre on some pop groups car. He said they were > called 'KMN' > or something (he had never heard of the KLF!) , so straight away > I say to him > "The KLF"?, and he goes yeah , it was some American cop car. Now > I was well > impressed, and wanted to know all the details, he said they had > been filming > round the M25, but didn't know much else. I've never seen this > footage they > recorded (assuming it was 'them') used. As far I was aware they > wouldn't have > had the cop car at that time would they? That 'is' really weird as that was my car! It was on Gimpo's M25 spin. I had been rebuilding the car and had it ready just before the spin. But when I set off gearbox problems started which resulted in me losing nearly all drive. Then to top it all, before even completing the first lap we got a puncture and guess what, the spare wheel was flat! My girlfriend had beakdown cover and they fortunately agreed to send someone out to repair the puncture, must have been your brother. After he fixed it for us, we went to pull away and no drive at all! So we finally made it home on the end of a rope, so overall a disaster! I still have the police car now with a new gearbox, but now my differential has failed :-((. I too would like to know the fate of the original Ford Timelord. :-)) Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 20:29:41 +0100 From: John Subject: Re: (klf) wierd stuff Phil Blake writes >I too would like to know the fate of the original Ford Timelord. Didn't Jimmy smash it up at a charity stock car race that was pretty well covered in the media at the time? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 22:18:21 +0100 From: "Darren Forster" Subject: RE: (klf) Beatles/On the list...? > Of course, the chances of this happening are probably absolutely nil. > Have the Beatles ever authorised the use of a sample from their tracks > being used in a dance record? (Cover versions aren't the same thing) I seem to recall getting a Stars On 45 mix of all the Beatles songs on the ultimate party animal. I presume this was an authorised remix, so there is authorised samples of their tracks in use on a dance record. Also didn't Take That do a cover version of Hey Jude? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 22:28:52 +0100 From: "Darren Forster" Subject: RE: (klf) hard dayz night > so if i can upload that somewhere for you klf people > but where? > pinknet ftp isn't public anymore, rms stinger ftp seems to be > down... fnord > is dead.. > any idea ? Have you thought of Mancentral that site contains most KLF tracks in MP3 format. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 23:32:06 +0100 From: John Subject: Re: (klf) Beatles/On the list...? Darren Forster writes >I seem to recall getting a Stars On 45 mix of all the Beatles songs Come to think of it I've got that on seven inch single somewhere (and have previously mucked about scratching and sampling snippets of it onto tape...) I'll have to dig it out to see what the label says. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:09:52 EDT From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Beatles/On the list...? In a message dated 10/15/01 2:22:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, darrenforster99@ntlworld.com writes: > I seem to recall getting a Stars On 45 mix of all the Beatles songs on the > ultimate party animal. I presume this was an authorised remix, so there is > authorised samples of their tracks in use on a dance record. Stars On were a group in and of themselves. Their Beatles medley (and their other ones for that matter) was performed by the group and not sampled from Beatles records. More of a cover. - -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:55:36 +0100 From: "Phil Blake" Subject: RE: (klf) wierd stuff > -----Original Message----- John > Sent: 15 October 2001 20:30 > Cc: KLF Mailing list > Subject: Re: (klf) wierd stuff > > Didn't Jimmy smash it up at a charity stock car race that was pretty > well covered in the media at the time? No, I went to that. The car was just a mock up. it was a chevy caprice like mine. Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:54:31 +0200 From: "DJ Kuta" Subject: (klf) White Label Copies There are TWO white label 12 inches out that were pressed by Crapola Records+ACE- No idea how many. Any information on these two? Probably only a KLF fan can recognize it's Jimmy's work... Hope to get some answers. Bye, Daniel - --- DJ Kuta, KLF Online (www.klf.de) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 23:18:34 -0000 From: "Mark Weston" Subject: (klf) just testing re booted pc just testing. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ End of klf-digest V2 #487 *************************