From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #104 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Monday, March 8 1999 Volume 02 : Number 104 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 14:20:38 -0600 From: "Desmond, Richard - TAFB/LASPO2" Subject: (klr650) trimming replies Hey folks, I hate to be a grump but could y'all please take a moment when you're replying to a message from the list to trim the quoted text . It's gotten reeeaall bad lately and makes scanning the digests a major pain. Thanks, Rich CMRA #352 '99 SV650 '97 900CR '86 RZ500 (for sale) '85 RZ350 x 2 '86 XT350 (for sale) '80 GS1000S '76 CB400 racing EX's ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 13:25:30 -0700 From: "Vik Banerjee" Subject: Re: (klr650) trimming replies - NKLR Rich, Makes it hard to digest the digest?...=) Sorry couldn't help myself. Cheers, Vik - -----Original Message----- From: Desmond, Richard - TAFB/LASPO2 To: 'klr650@lists.xmission.com' Date: Monday, March 08, 1999 1:21 PM Subject: (klr650) trimming replies >Hey folks, I hate to be a grump but could y'all please take a moment when >you're replying to a message from the list to trim the quoted text . It's >gotten reeeaall bad lately and makes scanning the digests a major pain. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 15:40:43 +0000 From: Jeffrey Doyle Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Eater? K650dsn@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 3/7/99 9:12:02 PM Mountain Standard Time, kaub@epix.net > writes: > > << If I occasionally shop at Wal-Mart and eat at McDonald's does that make me > a > bad person? > Please let me know the "approved" places to shop/eat. >> > > Walmart and McDonald's have bailed my butt out of a few binds. Last summer, > in Nevada, my Virago blew a fuse and had no headlight or instrument lights. > The philips head screw to my fuse panel got buggered up and I couldn't get the > screw out. It was late Sunday, getting dark and I needed to keep rolling. I > scooted to a Walmart, they had a screw extractor and metric screws. They > *lent* me the use of their cordless drill and bits to remove the head and > extract the screw. I know plenty of bike shops where they won't lend you a > screw driver much less let you walk out the door with with a $60.00 Makita. > > I don't know how many cups of lousy McDonalds coffee have kept me going on > long rides in the cold. > > Gino Super-size that coffee! Jeff A2 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 12:59:43 -0800 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: (klr650) Re: Tengai Thanks for the response, but I'm grieving now... Not only did I sell my Valkyrie Tourer a couple of days ago, The Tengai that I found last night, and phoned on this morning - is SOLD. I'll have to keep looking for this relatively rare bike, as I think I have found what I was looking for. Arne - -----Original Message----- From: Ztib@aol.com To: alarsen@rapidnet.net Date: Monday, March 08, 1999 12:48 PM Subject: Tengai >In a message dated 99-03-08 11:30:08 EST, you write: > ><< . Is this a fair price? > 2. What can ANYONE tell me about the Tengai.? Compare it to let's say... > oh, the standard KLR. Weight comparison? Handling? Dimensions? > > I read the front travel is less. Is it a lot less? Can this be rectified? > Would a person want to rectify this? I could tell that a few people were > wanting to convert their KLR's with Tengai front ends... I guess that this > means that the Tengai front end is O.K.? > > If I go looking at this bike is there anything specific I should watch out > for? > > I like the looks of it (from pictures I was able to find). It's kind of got > that Translap/F650 Euro flavor. > >I bought a 1990 Tengai 6 months ago for $1880 USA. 9,000 miles, excellent >condition, new battery and tires. Still, I think $2500 is fair. I just got a >bargain. You don't say how you will use it. I have found that the front end >travel is more than adequate for street, dirt trails and a bit of off road >rougher use. It is an eye catchng bike and I get complements on it. I >suppose you should confirm that the valves have been adjusted and that the >chain tensioner is adjuster. I go over everything after I buy. Word is that >the KLR is basically bullet proof and the engine is the same. Good luck - Oh, >don't expect to find a good tank bag, thus far I have not ------------------------------ Date: 08 Mar 99 15:10:20 -0600 From: Eric West Subject: (klr650) Tengai & Tank bag Arne, Sorry about you losing the Tengai. You mentioned that it was along = the lines of a Transalp, I've had both and you're right except for the = gas tank size, fuel mileage, and vibration levels. TA vs KL 4.8-6.1 ; 38-= 55 ; smooth-not as smooth :-). That fuel mileage should compare favorably = to the Valkyrie =3D8-} As far as tankbags for the KLR tank, I bought one at Motoport built for = dual-sports which kept things at the right angles but wore out after a coup= le of years fairly heavy use. Motoport=3D800/777-6499 YMMV Eric West ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 16:11:15 +0000 From: Jeffrey Doyle Subject: Re: (klr650) New (used) KLR! Eric Winslow wrote: > > Well, after spending much time thinking about getting a KLR, one showed up > in Saturday's classifieds. I checked it out, rode it, and bought it. It's > a '94 with 14,000 miles on it. Very clean. It had obviously not been > ridden too much in the dirt. I can't wait to get it all legal and take it > home for good. > > It's all stock, except for the tires perhaps. It has a brand new set of > Metzler Enduros on it. Anybody have experience with these tires? > > What happened to those '94's? Did they get hit with the ugly stick, or > what? No offence to those that love those colors. I'm sure I'll grow > to love it, too. That color scheme of aqua, light purple and white is > something else, though. The colors obviously didn't upset me too much. I > didn't hesitate buying it. At least I'll be visible. > > Just wanted to share my good news. > > Sincerely, > Eric (dual-purposing again) Winslow > '94 KLR650 > '93 Suzuki GS500E The Enduro 3 Sahara tires I had were great. A nice balance of road and dirt qualities. I'm going back to them in a couple of years when my new Metzeler street tires wear out. I needed to experiment with the street tire thing. My plan is to get an XL 883 next year so I'll be needing a set of knobbies for the KLR again. Jeff A2 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 21:23:41 -0000 From: "Andy Burton" Subject: (klr650) Dare I ask Dare I ask what your views are on Harley's??????????? Coming from England I'd be interested in how they are viewed over there. (And be nice!!!!!!!!) Andy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 14:29:30 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: (klr650) NKLR Encryption & Digital ID This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01BE6970.14903000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - -----Original Message----- From: Andy Burton To: Fred Hink Date: Monday, March 08, 1999 6:42 AM Subject: Re: (klr650) New KLR650-A13 >Thanks Fred. >I don't trust putting my details on E-mail so I'll hang fire until I get >some encryption software (for my birthday at the end of March). Hi Andy, Check out: http://www.verisign.com/securemail/guide This service costs about $10 a year for encryption and a digital ID. They have a 90 day free trial period. 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Here's something I've heard work (I won't do it because I think it's a little dangerous) A Canadian Jeep (Eltis by Bombardier) ran out of gas in Yugoslavia, in an attempt to get home they put all the Naptha they had into the tank. It worked although the engine ran pretty hot. It seems like you have to treat things like you don't own then if you want your monies worth. Stephen Rivett >I would like to figure out how to jet my bike for ethanol, for when the gas >dries up. Something that I can make in my still out back. Or maybe >methane. --joke. > >BTW, I still boycott Exxon to this day. Go to Alaska and you'll understand. > >Jeff > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Mar 99 13:39:53 PST From: rob_macleod@bylgate.dbylaw.com Subject: (klr650) Damper rod tool Hey there you listers, I am performing what seems to be a common set of mods on my A12 including a set of progressive springs for the forks. I would like to know what size nut I need to build a tool to hold the damper rod in place while I tighten the Allen bolt in the lower leg (yes, I know I don't have to touch the Allen bolt to replace the springs but curiosity got the better of me and now I can't tighten the darn thing). Also, I ride mostly on very dusty roads. I have seen references to a "hot" setup which sees a large main jet, twelve discs in a supertrapp IDS, a K&N filter and no air box cover. Has anyone had any experience with this configuration? Has anyone run at length on dusty roads without an air box cover? Thanks, Rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 14:07:45 PST From: "joel newtson" Subject: Re: (klr650) New (used) KLR! I thought KHI made the KLR ugly on purpose! You mean someone actually CHOSE that putrid-looking greenish blue? That color makes the KLR (an otherwise attractive bike, IMHO) look the way roadkill smells! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:28:31 -0500 From: "Daniel L. Hill" Subject: (klr650) RE: Bingo!! Dennis, I'm on so called "spring" break, so I had a little time to let you know how great my bike is. The klr650 is the best tri-sport bike you can get in the United States of America. It will run forever, if you take care of it. I've had an interceptor and sportster, and I prefer the klr over them. The riding position is traditional and great for long trips. The seat is ok, but a little hard for real real long riding periods, about two of three hours is ok. I am 5'-10 and find the height of the bike ok too. You can really be seen better in car traffic for people that look out, but side winds is something you need to be ready for. On the highway, 70-75 is possible; I was doing it all the time till the government went to this zero tolerance thing on speeding. I am not sure how the factory luggage racks effect highway handling. I use a back pack. I have found with lots of highway riding that the bike needs extra rider inspections for things coming loose. My chain is over two years old and only has needed adjusting a few times. I need to add I never get into mud, only dirt roads and trails abuse. The bike is super great on the pocket book too, from insurance to maintenance. You will think it runs on air. It is an all around great bike; darn near perfection for today's technology. It is a rider's bike, not a status symbol for the chicks or 200 mph devil. There are links to web pages with lots of stuff you can use in your research- http://members.visi.net/~dlhill/bike http://members.tripod.com/dlhill Check out some of the motorcycle magazines online too. I'll forward you note to the friendly experts at the KLR650 mail list, probable over a ten thousand years of combined KLR experience there. An impressive bone yard of knowledge. [klr650@lists.xmission.com] I think you will come to the same decision on your next bike as I did. Let me get back to the thermodynamics. Good luck ,Dan - -----Original Message----- From: DWatsonCAS@aol.com [mailto:DWatsonCAS@aol.com] Sent: Monday, March 08, 1999 3:02 PM To: dlhill@visi.net Subject: Bingo!! Looks like a KLR650. If so, I hope you will take the time to offer advice. I have always been interested in a bike such as the KLR. Currently ride BMWK100LT. Great bike but don't get to ride as much as I would like. I prefer touring and ride local very little. How is the KLR for distance road. I would seldom be off-road. What is the maintenance like? I hate tinkering but usually do so for lack of money. What do you think of chain drive? I swore I would never own another chain. But, I continue to hear that chains have changed a lot over the years and are not near as much headache. I am 6', thin. How will the bike fit me? Do you know anyone who makes an aftermarket wind screen that will get the air up and over the helmet? I prefer to be protected. How long do you think a "thumper" will last? Does one cylinder have half the life of two? Bottom line is that I want to move down on weight and I like the idea of 300 mile range with ability to carry a lot of gear. But, I need it to capable of spending days on end at 75 mph on the superslab. Thanks for taking time. I look forward to hearing from you if time permits. Nice page. Thanks, Dennis Watson Alabama ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 22:33:00 -0000 From: "Andy Burton" Subject: (klr650) A good website I found this today. The Jo Guest bit is very good. She'd make some umbrella girl. http://www.motorcycleworld.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 17:43:13 -0500 From: Stuart Heaslet Subject: Re: (klr650) motoport ultraII cordura jacket and pants. At 11:26 PM 3/7/99 -0500, Tim Bootle wrote: >Does anybody have any experience with these? I talked to the company >president at Daytona yesterday for about 20 minutes and he was very >convincing that this combo would make a perfect hot weather protective >gear set. He claims it is much much cooler than Aerostich as his is not >rain proof and therefore breathes well. Can anybody comment? I'm going >to be riding year round in Florida with 95% humidity, 95 degrees for the >six months of summer and need something to keep my skin from peeling >off in a crash that won't give me heatstroke. Tim: I have a Motoport Ultra II, live in SE Florida and am very happy with both jacket and pants. The advantage, as I see it for humid weather, is that the Cordura is uncoated and breathes very well. The only complaint I had was that the mesh liner of the jacket frayed where it rubbed against the Motoport pants, but they are fixing that as we write. I also bought the Thinsulate liners, but thats because I'm going north in a couple of months. None of it is cheap, but it should last a long time. I owned a Joe Rocket jacket before, but it was much hotter, and did not have good zippered ventilation. The Cordura on that jacket was coated. Stuart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:45:51 -0700 From: "Vik Banerjee" Subject: (klr650) NKLR Spotting The April '99 issue of Motorcyclist has an article on a UK couple that toured the world two-up on a CX500 for 16 years. They bought a tiny sailboat at one point and dismantled the bike to fit it below deck and proceeded to sail to China!!! These guys give Helge a run for his money. Anyway its page 72. If people want I can scan a copy of the article and e-mail it or post it to a webpage if someone is willing to supply the webpage. That same issue also has a nice review on the SV650 ($7800CDN at a local dealership). The April '99 issue of Rider has a nice article about touring Maritime Canada and NE USA(PEI, Nova Scotia, Quebec, Maine) on a R1100GS. (Page 80) I can do the scan e-mail/webpage thing with this article as well should interest dictate. Cheers, Vik ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #104 ****************************