From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #1099 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Tuesday, November 2 1999 Volume 02 : Number 1099 Re: (klr650) Ericindeep.jpg (klr650) What not to do (klr650) Re: What not to do(NKLR) Re: (klr650) DYING TO KNOW/'Training Wheels'-survey (klr650) nklr Training Wheels....-SURVEY Re: Re:(klr650) nklr- Taboo Subjects. Re: (klr650) New IDS II Re: (klr650) Tim Bernard? Re: Re:(klr650) nklr- Taboo Subjects. RE: (klr650) nklr Training Wheels....-SU (klr650) nklr Training Wheels....-SU (klr650) Washing jackets NKLR Re: (klr650) nklr Training Wheels....-SU RE: (klr650) DYING TO KNOW/'Training Wheels'-survey Re: (klr650) Posse Ride Report(Sequioas) II Re: (klr650) DYING TO KNOW/'Training Wheels'-survey Re: (klr650) DYING TO KNOW/'Training Whe (klr650) Training Wheels RE: (klr650) DYING TO KNOW/'Training Wheels'-survey (klr650) DYING TO KNOW/'Training Wheels'-survey ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 01:24:29 -0800 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (klr650) Ericindeep.jpg From: Eric Jasniewicz Subject: (klr650) Ericindeep.jpg > This is me the weekend before Halloween riding in 36 degree weather! Thanks > Pete Tamblyn for the pic. > > http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/ericjazz/images/Ericindeep.jpg Cool! I can see the jet-stream where your exhaust is blasting the water. Cheers, Arne KLR650 Listmeister Eh 13 www.mac-d.com MAC-D Homepage Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 01:42:39 -0800 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: (klr650) What not to do >From samhain_grim@hotmail.com Mon Nov 01 20:09:04 1999 Subject: Re: klr650-digest V2 #1087 Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 20:10:24 -0700 I've heard too much NKLR topics in this group. Just send your comments directly to them. I'm sure you guys/girl have their personal addresses. I'd much rather have some newbie post a question that has been posted a few times previously than listen to the crap that is going on in the "NKLR" posts, and don't flame them for being a new person to the group. I haven't personally been flamed, but I have read enough. I'm out of here. Yeah I know, I ought use the filter but then I wouldn't get any "KLR" posts. Hopefully see you on the trail/road not the internet. __________________________________ O.K., so here's a message from some poor bastard named Sam. He is grim apparently... and his message is a perfect example of what not to do. First off, I trimmed off the 8000 characters too much that caused it to bounce into my admin box. Had it just been (just) under it would have been a major bomb to the digest. Second, he fails to realize that many people enjoy reading the NKLR posts, and for those who don't - they don't have to. Third, I have been here for awhile and I have never seen a newbie flamed on this list for being a new person... if this is what he means. If he is saying that when a newbie asks a question that could be in the archives they get flamed, he's way off base here as well. Fourth, which is related to the second, is that he believes that by filtering out the NKLR mail that he won't get the KLR mail... How do you argue with this kind of logic. Cheers, Arne KLR650 Listmeister Eh 13 www.mac-d.com MAC-D Homepage Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:58:53 EST From: SeniorA13@aol.com Subject: (klr650) Re: What not to do(NKLR) In a message dated 11/2/99 4:42:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, nookie@telus.net writes: << >From samhain_grim@hotmail.com Mon Nov 01 20:09:04 1999 Subject: Re: klr650-digest V2 #1087 Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 20:10:24 -0700 >> Arne: Good thing he is now off list or he would accuse you of flaming him. Jim-A13-Cocoa Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 22:35:22 +1100 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) DYING TO KNOW/'Training Wheels'-survey Tobin Lampson wrote: [...] > I'm dying to know. I wonder how many KLR Riders/listers got their early > dirt legs on something like the above. My first dirt bike was a Suzuki PE175Z. Was my only ever new bike as well. Despite it being such a blast offroad, my guess is that I've done more dirt distance on my KLR. Being a premix competition bike, the PE didn't like getting out to the bush, but when it got there it made a newbie like me look good (well, ok, how about "not a total fool"?). I traded the PE on the KLR after about a year. Mister_T Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 03:50:46 -0800 From: Tobin Lampson Subject: (klr650) nklr Training Wheels....-SURVEY Yeah- Really? More guys than 3 rode something like the below during their 2 wheel education.......didn't ya? What about that 185? Gino? Others? I wonder how many KLR Riders/listers got their early dirt legs on something like...... say, Yam, Kaw, Suz, Hon, ?---100, 125, 175/85? Honda 90's, Hodakas, and CZ's count. Just shoot me a short note, offline.......... Thanks Toby ps last call. Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 08:34:56 -0500 From: "Walter Lesnowich" Subject: Re: Re:(klr650) nklr- Taboo Subjects. From: juan carlos ibarra [snipped] > PS In case you haven't noticed...YOU are already one > of "us" ...if you weren't, you would have replied to me > in private and not to the list...so, welcome aboard !!! > Prepare to be assimilated. Resistance is futile. Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 07:00:14 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) New IDS II > report back on gas milage. I have been averaging for 38-42 mpg. My feeling is > that it will be better as the engine feels much more free than before. yeaahhh...I finally found someone with worse fuel mileage than me. But not by much (g) Kurt Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 07:01:11 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Tim Bernard? Try dlsboi@interplus.net Kurt - ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob Gendreau To: Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 9:48 PM Subject: (klr650) Tim Bernard? > I tried to contact Tim Bernard via his webpage for ordering the radiator/fan > guards and my email got bounced. Anybody know a good address? > > -- > Rob Gendreau > Oakland, California > rob-g@pacbell.net > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net > for info. > > Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 07:10:30 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: Re:(klr650) nklr- Taboo Subjects. > A bunch of us -Jeff, Arne, Tobin, Pere and myself , for example- seem to > enjoy the art of discussing wierd stuff in this list; we hardly ever agree > on anything, but neither of us has ever lost style or gotten angry... or > told anyone to get off the list. I think it is hard for some folks to appreciate what it is like to be in for the "long haul" on the list. In order to "be there" for someone encountering a problem that we've seen several times...there has to be a balance. For many of us, that balance is getting to know one another and developing new friendships. Like Arne said, come to Moab and you'll meet 100 plus people you've only heard about. Many will become new friends....Personally, I count the days each year before the spring industry announcements..now less than 5 months distant... Kurt (2,149 quality (??(g)) posts since February, 1998 and counting) Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 7:13:00 -0700 From: "Pokluda, Gino" Subject: RE: (klr650) nklr Training Wheels....-SU >>I wonder how many KLR Riders/listers got their early dirt legs on something like...... say, Yam, Kaw, Suz, Hon, ?---100, 125, 175/85? Honda 90's, Hodakas, and CZ's count.<< Spent a good part of my early saddle time on a DT175. Great little bikes and wonderful for running down to the mail box on the farm. I toyed with the idea of restoring one, but gave it up because when all is said and done and after you've spent fistfuls of dollars, you still have an old bike. Gino Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 09:23:36 -0500 From: Ian Cariolo Subject: (klr650) nklr Training Wheels....-SU At 07:13 AM 11/2/99 -0700, you wrote: > >>>I wonder how many KLR Riders/listers got their early >dirt legs on something like...... > say, Yam, Kaw, Suz, Hon, ?---100, 125, 175/85? >Honda 90's, Hodakas, and CZ's count.<< My first was a Benelli 50. What a peculiar bike. lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll Ian Cariolo 1985 VF700F Interceptor 1986 Kawasaki KL600B Duxbury, MA llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 7:18:00 -0700 From: "Pokluda, Gino" Subject: (klr650) Washing jackets NKLR My wife is complaining about the "air" my Kilimanjaro has. It's never been washed since I bought it in '97. Anybody wash theirs yet? Do you hand wash it or throw it in the machine? Take the padding out? Gino Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 07:53:08 -0700 From: Mike Sonzini Subject: Re: (klr650) nklr Training Wheels....-SU "Pokluda, Gino" wrote: > >>I wonder how many KLR Riders/listers got their early > dirt legs on something like...... > say, Yam, Kaw, Suz, Hon, ?---100, 125, 175/85? > Honda 90's, Hodakas, and CZ's count.<< > > Spent a good part of my early saddle time on a DT175. I toyed with > the idea of restoring one, but gave it up because when all is said and done > and after you've spent fistfuls of dollars, you still have an old bike. > > Gino > Spent much of my time also on a Yamaha 175. First one was a '68 CT175. Still have a '74 DT175, that looks just like it did when it came off the showroom floor. Still has original tires. Mike Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:02:05 -0500 From: "Scherer, Michael" Subject: RE: (klr650) DYING TO KNOW/'Training Wheels'-survey 1976 RM125 Biker Mike A13 - -----Original Message----- From: Tobin Lampson [mailto:jazranch@jetlink.net] Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 7:03 PM To: lists Subject: (klr650) DYING TO KNOW/'Training Wheels'-survey John Shepherd wrote: snip > ........riding off road since I was 13 (I'm 38 now) I > have ventured into the world of on road riding...... So far the klr >has been everything I > hoped for and more. snip > John Shepherd > "Rider" > 1996 klr650 > 1986 Montesa COTA 123 > 1979 Yamaha DT 125<<<<<<<<-----Kool! > jls@avalongroup.net EDIT PASTE: > 1979 Yamaha DT 125> 1979 Yamaha DT 125> 1979 Yamaha DT 125 I'm dying to know. I wonder how many KLR Riders/listers got their early dirt legs on something like the above. Say, Yam, Kaw, Suz, Hon, ?---100, 125, 175/85 ??? Thanks Slide Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:29:38 EST From: OlZorro@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Posse Ride Report(Sequioas) II Well, after reading your fascinating report, I found myself wishing that I too could bash my KLR and sleep in the cold with puking compadres. Count me in on the next one! John Paul Gray Dana Point CA 94 ST1100 95 KLR650 Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 09:57:38 -0600 From: Don Davis Subject: Re: (klr650) DYING TO KNOW/'Training Wheels'-survey At 04:02 PM 99/11/01 -0800, Tobin Lampson wrote: >I'm dying to know. I wonder how many KLR Riders/listers got their early >dirt legs on something like the above. > Say, Yam, Kaw, Suz, Hon, ?---100, 125, 175/85 ??? > Thanks Slide Tobin, here is my dirt bike progression: Yamaha 60 -> Hodaka Dirt Sqirt 100 -> Bultaco 250 -> Yamaha IT175 -> Suzuki PE175 -> Kawasaki KDX200 -> Kawasaki KDX200 -> Currently Looking for a KLR BTW, Thanks to all who responded to my KLR600 post. Don Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 9:09:00 -0700 From: "Pokluda, Gino" Subject: Re: (klr650) DYING TO KNOW/'Training Whe My progression was as follows: DT175 > Yamaha Big Bear > a long span of street only riding on a Yamaha RD350 and Seca 650 > KLR600 > then I moved into the dark years of my life... BMW R80GS/PD> BMW R100GS> BMW R1100GS > Then my eyes were opened and I saw the light... 94 Suzuki DR650 > KLR650 and DR350. Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:26:05 -0700 From: Jason Lutz - ISDX Subject: (klr650) Training Wheels My progression: - ->'98 KLR 650 .... That would explain all of the scratches on my bent fairings. Jason Phoenix Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:27:40 -0500 From: "Blake, Paul" Subject: RE: (klr650) DYING TO KNOW/'Training Wheels'-survey My first love was a Kawasaki KD 100, which I abused to no end trying to keep up with my buddies RM 80! Then along came the KE 100, the youngest (smallest) sibling of the KLR. The KE suffered the same abuse inflicted on the KD, only worse! Both were ridden 100% off road. Both of these came and went about 15 years ago. Currently, next to my lovely wife and my beautiful daughter, is my latest and greatest love, my 1999 KLR 650 Flying Behemoth. Paul Dallas, Tx A13 At 04:02 PM 99/11/01 -0800, Tobin Lampson wrote: >I'm dying to know. I wonder how many KLR Riders/listers got their early >dirt legs on something like the above. > Say, Yam, Kaw, Suz, Hon, ?---100, 125, 175/85 ??? > Thanks Slide Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 09:12:59 -0800 From: John Shepherd Subject: (klr650) DYING TO KNOW/'Training Wheels'-survey Tobin, The bikes listed in my signature are the bikes I CURRENTLY own. My sons ride the COTA and the DT (although I have a tough time keeping my oldest (he's 14) off the klr now). My real first bike was a Honda Trail 90 and in chronological order (as I owned or acquired them) as follows: '73 Honda SL 100, '74 Yamaha DT 250, '86 Honda Reflex 200, '86 Montesa COTA 123, '79 Yamaha DT 125, '96 Kawasaki KLR 650 > ........riding off road since I was 13 (I'm 38 now) I > have ventured into the world of on road riding...... So far the klr >has been everything I > hoped for and more. snip > John Shepherd > "Rider" > 1996 klr650 > 1986 Montesa COTA 123 > 1979 Yamaha DT 125<<<<<<<<-----Kool! > jls@avalongroup.net EDIT PASTE: > 1979 Yamaha DT 125> 1979 Yamaha DT 125> 1979 Yamaha DT 125 I'm dying to know. I wonder how many KLR Riders/listers got their early dirt legs on something like the above. Say, Yam, Kaw, Suz, Hon, ?---100, 125, 175/85 ??? Thanks Slide - -- John Shepherd "Rider" 1996 klr650 1986 Montesa COTA 123 1979 Yamaha DT 125 jls@avalongroup.net Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #1099 *****************************