From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #111 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Wednesday, March 10 1999 Volume 02 : Number 111 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 04:44:48 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Dynojet kit in a 600 and jetlist Mike Ratta wrote: [...] > the dynojet kit will usually cover those changes. Your idle circuit is > untouched by the dynojet kit, so you'll have to adjust the pilot screw or > even change out the pilot jet for one 2-5 numbers higher. I've ditched my I can't see why the pilot system might need correction. Idle/off-idle exhaust and intake flow rates are pretty small, so not much affected by airbox or muffler mods. Valve timing, compression ratio or combustion chamber mods would no doubt alter requirements. I'll be staying with the stock filter element as there is apparently no K&N to fit the 600. Does a K&N flow _that_ much more than the stock foam filter anyway? Mister_T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:31:05 -0500 From: Mike Ratta Subject: RE: (klr650) Dynojet kit in a 600 and jetlist Believe me, when you make changes like those, they are across the whole range, and they will lean out the idle / slow settings which arent covered by a jet kit. Symptoms are stumbling idle, speed hangs up when the throttle is blipped and hard cold starts. You can make an air filter from K&N or UNI filter material, I forget who offers it. A filter will make a big difference in terms of mixture, especially with the airbox drilled out. - -----Original Message----- From: Ted Palmer [mailto:tedp@replicant.apana.org.au] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 1:45 PM To: klr650 Subject: Re: (klr650) Dynojet kit in a 600 and jetlist Mike Ratta wrote: [...] > the dynojet kit will usually cover those changes. Your idle circuit is > untouched by the dynojet kit, so you'll have to adjust the pilot screw or > even change out the pilot jet for one 2-5 numbers higher. I've ditched my I can't see why the pilot system might need correction. Idle/off-idle exhaust and intake flow rates are pretty small, so not much affected by airbox or muffler mods. Valve timing, compression ratio or combustion chamber mods would no doubt alter requirements. I'll be staying with the stock filter element as there is apparently no K&N to fit the 600. Does a K&N flow _that_ much more than the stock foam filter anyway? Mister_T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:05:03 -0800 (PST) From: "Rev. Chuck MacKarness" Subject: Re: (klr650) C'mon... > "By the way, Jeff, I hope that test you were studying for wasn't one for sanity. :)" > >> C'mon man, there's no need to get personal (smiley face or no). Your e-mail had me thinking until I got to this part. I'm sure I'm not the only one you lost with that comment. Keep it relevant (which you had up until that point), keep it witty, make it irreverent too, but keep it courteous. The list seems to be in a slump lately in this regard. Pulpit mode on: I have to agree with you Jaun, the list is slowly becoming a place to *safely* insult others, while hiding in our apparently anonymous glass houses. I have greatly benefited from the many years of skill this list represents, as I think many have. I would like to continue. Let's try to keep our political, religious and otherwise non-KLR listing to a constructive minimum. Pulpit mode off: == Rev. Chuck '99 KLR651 :^)>+ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:11:19 -0800 (PST) From: "Rev. Chuck MacKarness" Subject: Re: (klr650) Shipping a KLR > Has anyone had any experience in shipping a motorcycle... I sent a 1968 Samuri 350 to Alaska back in 73' does that count? Boxed it up without liquids, dropped a couple pounds of dry ice in the empty tank and sent it away. > I check with Federal (AMA endorsed) and the cost was going to be $426. > That seems pretty high. If my memory is correct, I paid around $200.00 then, but Alaska was much farther away in 73' :^) == Rev. Chuck '99 KLR651 :^)>+ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:30:28 -0800 From: Christopher J Beasley Subject: (klr650) Going to Moab from Oakland Anyone going to Moab from the San Francisco Bay Area this year? I am DEFINITELY going. Nothing will stop me this time! I'll buy a 99 KLR if I have to! Seriously, my bike should be together by next weekend at the latest, which will give me some time to get in a lot of dirt miles before Moab. I want to hook up with some BA folks to go out there. We could trailer out, with the bikes in the bed of my ancient Toyota, or ride out, which would require finding some tire options in Moab. Anybody? Cheers! Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:02:47 EST From: Rcklr@aol.com Subject: Fwd: (klr650) Oil leak This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_921099768_boundary Content-ID: <0_921099768@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In a message dated 3/10/99 10:01:38 AM EST, tedp@replicant.apana.org.au writes: << > My trusty 1990 KLR650 has decided to leak oil out of the rubber plug on the > engine casing above the sidestand. Reinstalled the plug still Sounds like the little O-ring on the balancer chain adjuster bolt has failed somehow. I don't know about 650s, but on my 600 it's quite safe to remove the bolt, replace the O-ring and refit the bolt. Mister_T >> I had to replace mine (A7, or '93) at about 1500 miles. I adjusted the tensioner twice and it started leaking. Pulled the bolt, replaced the o-ring and never a drop since. (about 12k) Now, don't tell me I couldn't do it that way or I'll cry. :-) MN Ron (hoping everyone can get out on the bikes soon so we get over the sensitive feelings everyone seems to have right now. Smile and be happy!!!!!!) - --part0_921099768_boundary Content-ID: <0_921099768@inet_out.mail.replicant.apana.org.au.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (rly-yc05.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.37]) by air-yc03.mail.aol.com (v56.26) with SMTP; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:01:38 -0500 Received: from lists.xmission.com (lists.xmission.com [198.60.22.7]) by rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id KAA26842; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:01:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10KkTV-00001F-00 for klr650-goout@lists.xmission.com; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:00:45 -0700 Received: from [203.12.238.34] (helo=zhora.replicant.apana.org.au) by lists.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10KkTR-00001A-00 for klr650@lists.xmission.com; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:00:42 -0700 Received: (from smap@localhost) by zhora.replicant.apana.org.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA17423 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 02:00:25 +1100 Received: from electra.replicant.apana.org.au(192.168.100.73) by zhora.replicant.apana.org.au via smap (V1.3) id xma017378; Thu, 11 Mar 99 01:59:55 +1100 Message-ID: <36E69676.3FBF@replicant.apana.org.au> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 01:57:42 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Organization: RC17 Proving Labs X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (WinNT; I) To: klr650 Subject: Re: (klr650) Oil leak References: <97894e45.36e639f6@aol.com> Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Ted Palmer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit LPetty4585@aol.com wrote: > My trusty 1990 KLR650 has decided to leak oil out of the rubber plug on the > engine casing above the sidestand. Reinstalled the plug still Sounds like the little O-ring on the balancer chain adjuster bolt has failed somehow. I don't know about 650s, but on my 600 it's quite safe to remove the bolt, replace the O-ring and refit the bolt. Mister_T - --part0_921099768_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 99 13:27:53 PST From: "Marick Payton" Subject: (klr650) Installing Acerbis hand guards I put Acerbis hand guards on my KLX. Spent a long time drilling out the welded in weight and filing down the inside of the bar so the plug on the Acerbis would fit. It can be done. It ain't fun. Marick ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:36:31 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Vasque Sundowners...NKLR Bogdan wrote: Let me put in a word for Vasque Sundowners.They're not cheap, $180-200 U.S. (What's the loonie worth now?), but I believe a great value Completely waterproof, they come in widths & you can walk all day in them. Best part, they're cool (In both ways but here I mean the original sense of the word). Much cooler than running shoes for example. I've ridden and walked in them when it was 100+ many times. I buy them so they fit with Spenco inserts. I reply: I have a good friend who loves them as well..the only thing I don't like about Vasque's is that you can't redo the soles... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 21:43:12 -0000 From: "Andy Burton" Subject: (klr650) Apology - Dare I ask ( No KLR content) A thousand apologies for raising such a `dirty issue`. I'll stick to KLR stuff in future, HONEST. (Thanks to those who replied. Your views don't differ much from thoughts over here). Andy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 21:46:10 -0000 From: "Andy Burton" Subject: (klr650) KLR fairing I notice the `fairing` (plastic bit around the headlamp) on the American KLR's have a taller windshield and flare out to the side above the mudguard. Does it work??? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:09:08 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) re. Spring Industry Announcments - -----Original Message----- From: Bogdan Swider To: 'Fred Hink' ; Arne Larsen ; KLR650 List Date: Sunday, March 07, 1999 4:44 PM Subject: RE: (klr650) re. Spring Industry Announcments What ever happened to the good Docter Birol? > I have sold parts to our Turkish > Doctor Say The good Dr is on tour...he had me unsubscribe him on December 6th a few days before his departure so he would have time to pack...I'll have to check on his return time but I wouldn't be surprised if he'll be back for the spring industry announcements... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:19:42 -0700 From: "Vik Banerjee" Subject: Re: (klr650) Vasque Sundowners...NKLR - -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Simpson To: Bogdan Swider ; brbo@uniserve.com ; KLR List Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 2:36 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Vasque Sundowners...NKLR > > >Bogdan wrote: > > >Much cooler than running shoes for example Bogdan, I have tried out the Vasques and they are nice, but no way can a leather boot (especially if its the goretex version) be cooler on a hot day than a pair of nikes. Cheers, Vik ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:32:48 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: (klr650) Report Card... After 41/2 days away, I just waded through 740 emails from the two lists I run and other things...including some 270 plus from the KLR list and here are some KLR comments. 1. I agree there is a new trend towards personal insults which must stop. This has been one of the friendliest places on the web...if it is insults you are after you can go to any of the newsgroups with hard-core Harley (NOTE: not referring to all Harley riders just the obnoxious dudes that hang out on the newsgroups wanting to be bad)...and have a ball...state your opinion..keep on topic..respect one another's viewpoint or leave...simple.. 2. NKLR...please use "NKLR" in the subject line of anything that doesn't have to do with KLR specific info...this applies not only to humorous, clever, and witty stuff (encouraged) but "on-topic" dualsport stuff like boots, clothing, electric theory, etc., so to give an example, a discussion on wiring sizes used on the KLR is KLR specific a related point concerning resistance theory and OHM's law is NKLR...boots are NKLR...riding techniques NKLR...tires on KLR are KLR....headlight bulbs on KLR are KLR...Fred's website and umbrella girls NKLR...boorish boars...NKLR...prices for KLR is KLR...shooting non-combatants NKLR...PC-800's on the White Rim Trail NKLR...handlebars on the KLR is KLR...Fred's sweet voice and Gino's soft side NKLR... NKLR stands for No KLR content...and it must be NKLR not nklr not No KLR content..NKLR...it allows non-digest users to use filters...but, more importantly, it is a sign of KLR list civility and courtesy.... 3. Advice for newbies...do not be afraid to ask newbie questions...but...lurk for awhile and get acquainted with the list and how it works. Visit the archives...visit Bill's website...it will help you to ask better questions... 4. Trimming replies...this is a common courtesy...when replying to a message put your reply after the message you are replying to but trim the original message by using cut and paste so that only the bare minimum to establish context is included...the poor digest users have to go through the same post again and again...if you don't know how it is time to learn... I have written to Lee Parks of Motorcyle Consumer News and obtained permission to reprint L.T. Snyder's excellent piece on the do's and don't's of posting to motorycle mailing lists...I'll get at it in piece by piece installments. Thanks for making this a great list...thanks for your cooperation... Kurt Simpson (list admin) Salt Lake City ------------------------------ Date: 10 Mar 99 16:51:36 -0600 From: Eric West Subject: RE: (klr650) KLR emblem - --====56554855575157554855===1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Reply to: RE: (klr650) KLR emblem I had the same thing happen on my '88, and it was done on the one = occassion that I used a commercial carwash wand. Those exact letters just = peeled up and off when the pressure spray hit them. Eric West Arne Larsen wrote: >Hey Listers, > >I saw a '96 KLR 650 today at a dealers. Only 650 kilometers on it - = looked >almost new except for a little scratching on the right side hand-guard - >probably from branches. The other anomaly was the missing "R" on the = right >side of the bike and the missing "K" on the left side. You know, the = large >"KLR" that spans the tank/cowling? The dealer figured this was from gas >spillage. As there is no clear coating over the emblem portion on the >cowling, as there is on the metal tank, he figured that spilled gas = lifted >the emblem. This looks possible, as there are no scratches or damage to = the >cowling. > >Any one else found this to be the case? - --====56554855575157554855===1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
         Reply to:   RE: (klr650) KLR emblem
I had the same thing happen on my = '88, and it was done on the one occassion = that I used a commercial carwash wand. = Those exact letters just peeled up and off = when the pressure spray hit them.
Eric = West
Arne Larsen wrote:
>Hey Listers,
>
>I = saw a '96 KLR 650 today at a dealers. Only = 650 kilometers on it - looked
>almost = new except for a little scratching on the = right side hand-guard -
>probably from = branches. The other anomaly was the missing = "R" on the right
>side of = the bike and the missing "K" on = the left side. You know, the large
>"KLR" = that spans the tank/cowling? The dealer = figured this was from gas
>spillage. = As there is no clear coating over the emblem = portion on the
>cowling, as there is = on the metal tank, he figured that spilled = gas lifted
>the emblem. This looks = possible, as there are no scratches or damage = to the
>cowling.
>
>Any one = else found this to be the case?
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