From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #1189 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Tuesday, November 30 1999 Volume 02 : Number 1189 Re: (klr650) Tire balancing nklr Re: (klr650) Tire balancing nklr Re: (klr650) Cannister Empty Space ("It must have fallen off") Re: (klr650) KLR650 OEM tires (klr650) Pilot Screw (klr650) List etiquette nklr RE: (klr650) Tank Size (klr650) NKLR - Rack Choices (klr650) RE: Rack Choices RE: (klr650) Gripster Impression - NKLR RE: (klr650) Cannister Empty Space ("It must have fallen off") Re: (klr650) Gripster Impression - NKLR Re: (klr650) List etiquette nklr Re: (klr650) Pilot Screw Re: (klr650) RE: Front end washing out NKLR Re: (klr650) Hepco Becker/Touratech/Pelican luggage setup for sale Re: (klr650) RE: Front end washing out NKLR (klr650) Howdy all- Newbie Alert!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 09:23:22 EST From: TLrydr@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Tire balancing nklr I tried to balance one (tire) with slime in it on one of them , Couple thousand dollar balancer machines, I never could get it to zero out, The balance point kept changing, The owner came back to help me ,But stated that with slime in it it would not balance out, I think i have about 12 oz of slime in each tire, Mike In a message dated 11/29/99 5:20:35 PM EST, BSwider@ColoradoCollege.edu writes: << Why not?? I've done it myself + had it done. Was this just an illusion?? Bogdan, who's still not sure about this reality thing. You can;t balance a tire with SLIME in it,, Mike >> Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 09:45:57 -0500 From: Gary Weaver Subject: Re: (klr650) Tire balancing nklr You overloaded the tube with slime about 8 ounces for the rear 4-6 for the front. Make sure after you insert the slime to go for a short spin to distribute it evenly. Or when in doubt just use 10 ounces over the sight glass. Twistin,Gary Keystone Moto Land A3 "zenzero" TLrydr@aol.com wrote: > I tried to balance one (tire) with slime in it on one of them , Couple > thousand dollar balancer machines, I never could get it to zero out, The > balance point kept changing, > The owner came back to help me ,But stated that with slime in it it would not > balance out, I think i have about 12 oz of slime in each tire, > > Mike > > In a message dated 11/29/99 5:20:35 PM EST, BSwider@ColoradoCollege.edu > writes: > > << Why not?? I've done it myself + had it done. Was this just an > illusion?? Bogdan, who's still not sure about this reality thing. > > You can;t balance a tire with SLIME in it,, > > Mike >> > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net > for info. Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:50:36 -0800 From: "Robert Morgan" Subject: Re: (klr650) Cannister Empty Space ("It must have fallen off") Sorry no pix. Maybe I'll do a blurb for DSN on it since so many people have been interested. It was a pelican 1120 but a 1150 will fit and is a bit larger. www.pelican.com is the site. I used a backing plate of 1/8 inch thick aluminum to mount it. I carry tools there as you can put a small padlock on it and it's waterproof. I will put a small first aid kit in there and a few mini bottles of rum, for medicinal use of course. It is suitable for all kinds of stuff. gotta go gonna be late for work. Morgan Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 10:17:25 -0500 From: Mark Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR650 OEM tires I left an email over a week ago and got no response. Mark B2 A2 >Many of you have suggested I replace the tires on my 95 model with >leftover originals from Duel Star. I called their 800 number in an >attempt to order these tires and a centerstand, but am unable to reach >an actual person. The message says to leave my order along with my >name, address, credit card#, etc., but I can't seem to hook up with >somebody to quote a price or even an item number. I've twice left a >message asking them to call me back, but this had no effect. Anybody >here had similar luck? Should I be calling elsewhere? > >Michael Williams > > >Visit the KLR650 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 >Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net >for info. Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 08:04:00 -0800 From: George Basinet Subject: (klr650) Pilot Screw Listers, I pulled off my carb to clean out the dirt that was in it. The dirt either got in because of bad Mexican gas or leaked in by way of the air filter. Anyway I removed the plug on the pilot jet and found the jet screwed all the way seated. Is this usual? it seemed to run O.K. thanks George Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:11:36 EST From: Scooterstan@aol.com Subject: (klr650) List etiquette nklr I know I'm new to the list and I don't want to cause trouble, but.... wouldn't it be better if we simply replied to the list only and not the person who sent it also. That we we do not receive multiple messages like I am on the Tire Balancing thread. Isn't there a way to do this automagically through the list administration tools? Just a thought... I'll go away now. StAn Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 10:08:54 -0700 From: Bogdan Swider Subject: RE: (klr650) Tank Size How about the Ayyy.... Mexican models?? Bogdan its nonsense...all the A and Eh (North American Models) have the same fuel tank.... Kurt Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:58:54 -0500 From: "Ralph E. Hanson" Subject: (klr650) NKLR - Rack Choices I'm trying to sort out the choices of bags and racks available. After reviewing the archives, I've pretty well settled on the Aerostich-marketed Dry Bags as being the best match to my needs. The confusing part to me is picking the right rack/bag support. The collective's opinion would seem to be that the Kawasaki support isn't worth having. The Dual Star heat shield would seem to be the most cost-effective choice ($35), but the plastic would still get scuffed. The Bernard racks and the Drive Line racks both get good reviews. Are they one and the same? If not, how do they differ? They both cost around $130-150, correct? The MAC-D rack on MotorMark's page looks really substantial, but I'm not sure where it can be purchased and at what price. http://www.angelfire.com/mo/motormark/macd.html So... Given that I'm looking at the Dry Bags, what can I get by with? What will I be happiest with? My alternative choice is the Kawi bags, which have the advantage of the insulation on the exhaust side. If I went that route, I would probably just use the Dual Star head shield. Advise away. Ralph - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph E. Hanson, Ph.D Room 308 Martin Hall Associate Professor West Virginia University P.I. Reed School of Journalism Morgantown, WV 26506-6010 rhanson@wvnvm.wvnet.edu (304) 293-3505, ext. 5412 http://www.wvu.edu/~journal2 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:35:52 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: (klr650) RE: Rack Choices > The Bernard racks and the Drive Line racks both get good reviews. > Are they > one and the same? If not, how do they differ? They both cost around > $130-150, correct? They are the same and now called Happy Trails...if you're sure you will not require mounting for fixed luggage the "originals" are the lightest, best looking and most economical at $145. You can see them at http://members.tripod.com/happytrail/original_racks.htm. Tim's site is www.happy-trail.com. The Northwest rack is Happy-Trail's most economical rack for fixed and non-fixed luggage. You can see Arne Larsen's rack at www.mac-d.com a great value and well built for both fixed and non-fixed. You can't go wrong with either of the choices... Kurt Simpson Salt Lake City FS '98 KLR 7,800 miles FS '82 XR200 Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:38:59 -0700 From: Bogdan Swider Subject: RE: (klr650) Gripster Impression - NKLR T, Every time you talk air pressure the numbers go up. Last time you said 32-34psi; what's going on?? Bogdan Same for me, except I got over 12,000 miles from my last Gripster rear. However, I don't recall having gone offroad with it. Loaded up out on the highway, I'd use about 36-38psi in the rear. Mister_T Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:41:01 -0700 From: Bogdan Swider Subject: RE: (klr650) Cannister Empty Space ("It must have fallen off") We have found Captain Morgan. Bogdan and a few mini bottles of rum, for medicinal use of course. It is suitable for all kinds of stuff. gotta go gonna be late for work. Morgan Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 08:42:24 +1100 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Gripster Impression - NKLR Bogdan Swider wrote: > > T, Every time you talk air pressure the numbers go up. Last time you > said 32-34psi; what's going on?? Bogdan Day to day running on the street and 32-34 psi is about right, and maybe using 2-3psi less for track days or hard use in the twisties. When loaded up and hitting the highway, you have to pump them up to make them last. I forget what the max cold inflation is for Gripsters, maybe 40 or 42psi. Mister_T Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 08:52:21 +1100 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) List etiquette nklr Scooterstan@aol.com wrote: > I know I'm new to the list and I don't want to cause trouble, but.... wouldn't it be better if we simply replied to the list only and not the person who sent it also. [...] I'm only guessing here, but I suppose the direct reply is to make it simpler for those who may receive only the digest version by not having to sift through a potentially large range of messages in a single email. It doesn't make a lot of difference to me as anything with "klr" in the subject is filtered into a particular folder. Mister_T Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 08:58:39 +1100 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Pilot Screw George Basinet wrote: > I pulled off my carb to clean out the dirt that was in it. The dirt > either got in because of bad Mexican gas or leaked in by way of the > air filter. Anyway I removed the plug on the pilot jet and found the > jet screwed all the way seated. Is this usual? it seemed to run O.K. First off, let's get the terminology right. The screw behind the plug is the mixture screw or pilot adjuster screw. The pilot jet lives inside the float bowl. Anyway, the bike should, in theory, barely run or not run at all with the pilot screw all the way in, so something fishy is going on. Mister_T Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:00:42 -0800 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) RE: Front end washing out NKLR > Karl has it right. I just spent the weekend riding in more sand than I > ever thought I would, and I did not dump the bike once. I basically used > the technique described below. Make sure you always keep the engine in the > 3500-5000 range so there is always power being sent to the rear wheel. I never said that his technique was wrong, it isn't. What is incorrect is his explaination of how it works. I guess it is beyond the scope of a simple email to impart a good understanding of these concepts to everyone. It really takes physics and statics studies. Jeff Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:54:21 -0800 From: "Kahiau" Subject: Re: (klr650) Hepco Becker/Touratech/Pelican luggage setup for sale I like everything about the E36's as saddlebags. I don't crank it on turns anymore when I have them loaded on. Those and Tim's Northwest racks are an awesome duo. Aloha, Kahiau E14 Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 09:55:20 +1100 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) RE: Front end washing out NKLR Jeff wrote: [...] > I guess it is beyond the scope of a simple email to impart a good > understanding of these concepts to everyone. It really takes physics and > statics studies. A few good diagrams (not ASCII) would make all the differece. Mister_T Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:50:02 -0800 From: "Seiler, Kevin" Subject: (klr650) Howdy all- Newbie Alert!! Howdy All, My name's Kevin Seiler. I live in San Diego. I've been riding for 15 years, I'm 31 and I just bought an 89 KLR 650 (A3?). My other bikes are a 72 Norton Commando and an 80 Guzzi Lemans 2. This will be my first Japanese bike in 12 years. I just picked up the bike yesterday and the fan doesn't seem to come on. It's seems to run cool (temp gauge doesn't get past 1/2 way). Should the fan come on only when it's really hot or something- which would just make me paranoid about overheating. I've been looking for a fuse for the radiator fan and can't seem to find it. I saw on the Tech Tips that the fuse should be by the coolant tank (the example bike was an A13 , and I was wondering if the early bikes don't have a fuse) , but I can't seem to find it. Is The headlight fuse was blown and I guess that's pretty common. I put in a new one and it seems to fine now. Does anyone on this list make a book of helpful tips for these bikes? There is a great book for Guzzi nuts called "Guzziology" and I was wondering if there was a similar species of the Kawalski variety. One last thing, I intend to do some sort of a camo/flat black (with reflective stickers) death biker of the apocalypse paint thing on this bike. Is there a photo gallery out there for KLR evil rat bike ideas? tia, Kevin Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #1189 *****************************