From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #1199 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Friday, December 3 1999 Volume 02 : Number 1199 Re: (klr650) ZX12 drag run nklr (klr650) A serious KLR Re: (klr650) NKLR - Mexican Fees (klr650) Boots Fw: (klr650) NKLR - Mexican Fees RE: (klr650) NKLR - Mexican Fees Re: (klr650) Joe Rocket POS stuff Re: (klr650) Ballistic jackets? NKLR Re: (klr650) A serious KLR (klr650) NKLR Re:Why Do Roads Corrugate? (klr650) NKLR: My klr webpage "take 2" Re: (klr650) Ballistic jackets? NKLR (klr650) RE: boots (klr650) 1992 KLR650 white AND blue? RE: (klr650) Rear caliper question RE: (klr650) Joe Rocket POS stuff (klr650) Huh? (klr650) Re: Riding Boots ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 09:23:07 EST From: Scooterstan@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) ZX12 drag run nklr >Ricky Gadsen rode a stock, pre-production ZX-12R to a >quarter-mile time of > 9.52 seconds at 146.97 miles per hour. Being a bonnefied speed addict, this perked up my ears. My father just bought a Hyabusa and we were going to take a long tour this summer. He said he would wait up for me and my pokey Blackbird. I guess I may have to forego the BMW S and buy a ZX12R just to make it even. I may even have to wait for him as this ZX is turning better 1/4 and 1/8 mile times than the 'Busa. Stephanie CBR XX Ducati 750 SS KLR650 Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 09:29:35 EST From: Scooterstan@aol.com Subject: (klr650) A serious KLR From what I can tell, the focus of the majority of the riders on this list lean towards the touring and commuting side of dual purpose riding. Has anyone on the list taken a KLR to other extreme as in removing as much weight as possible and bringing engine performance up to par with other 650cc class engines? Stephanie CRB XX Ducati 750 SS KLR650 Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 06:37:44 -0800 From: "Robert Morgan" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR - Mexican Fees Yo Elden left a message on my answering machine last night about an hour after he got home. He mentioned he had agreat time riding with you. Isn't he cool. The man is a walking encyclopedia, He is in the process of setting up the suspension components for my bike with Bob Bell from precision concepts. I can't wait. He also mentioned he did a couple hundred dollars damage to his bike in an incident with a BULL. He didn't elaborate so I'll find out more when I call him this evening. I'm glad you had the opportunity to meet him. You should stop by here on one of your trips south. I am literally about a minute and a half off the freeway in Carlsbad. Brian and Vik are leaving their truck and trailer here when they go down in a couple of weeks. Morgan Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 09:50:58 -0500 From: "F.Otta" Subject: (klr650) Boots >I sent them back and got a set of Tech 8 Alpinestars. I use them for long >trips and dirt, but around town I use Harley boots because they fit. > I have a pair of Teknic Violators for street use: Comfortable though the vents don't allow any breeze to come in. Not very waterproof. Don't seem like they will last more than a couple of years 'cause the construction is not as robust as it might be. I'd rate them as 3/5 Also a Pair of Alpinstar Tech 5: Very comfortable, quite waterproof, well-made. I'd rate them as 4/5 end ................................... Frank Otta Email_is_fotta@the-wire.com http://www.the-wire.com/~fotta/home.htm Toronto, Ontario ZX9R, KDX250 - Green, Green, Green ....................................... Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 06:45:02 -0800 From: "Robert Morgan" Subject: Fw: (klr650) NKLR - Mexican Fees Sorry, I'm precaffienated, I meant to send that last message to Kurt Grife instead of the entire list. It's ok if everyone reads it though. Elden is ok by the way. Morgan Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 09:51:40 -0700 From: Richard Ohnstad Subject: RE: (klr650) NKLR - Mexican Fees A $400 to $800 deposit against your vehicle that you supposedly got back when you left the country. However, it was "suspended indefinitely" after only one day. For the second time this fall. Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:51:01 -0600 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Y._Gonz=E1lez?=" Subject: Re: (klr650) Joe Rocket POS stuff > I now have a pair of SIDI Sympatex On Road boots on order. I should have gottem them in the first place but thre price was too much, so I thought. They are back ordered and on the slow boat fron Taiwan. Now that I have a KLR I wonder if I should have ordered the Combat Touring Boots. > I really should have it all! I've had the SIDI sympatex On roaders for a few thousand miles and love them! I don't thing they're as tough as the combat boots, which from what I hear are basically softened up off road boots , but they're good enough for my 95% on road, 5% off road use. Their literature says they have a steel shank in the sole for stiffness too, which helps when I'm standing on my serrated pegs. They are also absolutely waterproof, and pretty warm in colder weather. These boots are quality items in my opinion, but I only wish could have gotten them a little wider so I have a bit more air space during really cold weather. The SIDI's are Italian boots made in Italy as far as I know. Carlos Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:07:10 EST From: Raamses@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Ballistic jackets? NKLR >>not many of them come in "tall" sizes.but the >>Joe Rocket "ballistic" jacket does..So I'd like to know more about the Joe >>rocket Ballistic jacket, if anyone has any experience with it, good or bad. I was looking at the "ballistic" jacket myself. I asked for 'list consultation' and was overwhelmed with negative feedback. I ended up getting the First gear Kenya jacket which is 100% waterproof, has a zip-out liner, is vented, and it does come in tall sizes. I have been very pleased with this product. I think the price is comparable to the Joe Rocket, but it apparently has twice the quality. The suggested price is $260, but I ordered mine for $230 at the local cycle shop. The only setback is; its not 3/4 length, but the back does extend a little longer than the front, so IMO it is plenty long enough to comfortably cover the waist while riding. Here is the site: http://www.intersportfashions.com/right/html/kenya.asp Hope this helped, Raamses Roanoke, VA. A14 "Lusus" (154 miles and counting) http://www2.50megs.com/raamses/klrpage.htm Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:14:22 -0600 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Y._Gonz=E1lez?=" Subject: Re: (klr650) A serious KLR - ---------- > From: Scooterstan@aol.com > >From what I can tell, the focus of the majority of the riders on this list lean towards the touring and commuting side of dual purpose riding. Has anyone on the list taken a KLR to other extreme as in removing as much weight as possible and bringing engine performance up to par with other 650cc class engines? > > Stephanie What kind of 650 engine do you want to compare it to, other dual sports? I was thinking that when I my KLR is ready for the heap, I would go in the engine and trim the skirt off the piston as much as I dared, especially the area perpendicular to the wrist pin, maybe right up to the piston rings, ala the Yam R6. Then I would drill a few lightening holes (as in to lighten) in the connecting rod. If I had the money, I would have the wrist pin, the valves, and the bucket made up in titanium as well. All this would be in an effort to lighten up the reciprocating mass. Then I would see how high it revs. What do ya think, is a single up to going 11-12,000 RPMs before it pops? Ah well, dreams... it could happen though. Carlos (in La La land) Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 07:12:43 -0600 From: aches@deltech.net (Chesley, Andrus) Subject: (klr650) NKLR Re:Why Do Roads Corrugate? Wow lots of work but but but most corrugate down here in south louisiana are at the intersections of our gravel roads where you are accereating (mainly) or breaking ?????????? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.. - -- Cheers and Best Regards Andy Chesley @ 56 and ticking Jennings, La. R11RA,DR350SET(forsale 2700) ,A14 "So Many Roads, So Little Time" http://members/deltech.net/aches Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:30:29 EST From: Raamses@aol.com Subject: (klr650) NKLR: My klr webpage "take 2" OK listers, My humble little klr web page should be fully operational now. There was a problem with the pictures not loading correctly, but with some help I think I corrected the problem (thanks to Sarah and others). I'm gonna try some 'renovations' soon, when I get some new pics. So maybe it'll be slightly improved in the near future. Here's the address again, for anyone who's bored: http://www2.50megs.com/raamses/klrpage.htm Later, Raamses Roanoke, VA. A14 "Lusus" (154 miles and counting) http://www2.50megs.com/raamses/klrpage.htm Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:38:20 -0600 From: "Jeff Smith" Subject: Re: (klr650) Ballistic jackets? NKLR This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_01EE_01BF3D82.E6082700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The only problem I've ever had with my Ballistic Jacket is that it is = hot when it's hot out, for some reason they put in arm vent and not back = vents. Joe Rocket has a new vesion of the jacket out with a back vent = (right now both are in stores side by side, same price). When, and if, = I replace my jacket (I don't know why I spend the money now) i will be = buying another, unless I have money for a AeroStitch Darren in HiVis = Yellow. - ------=_NextPart_000_01EE_01BF3D82.E6082700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The only problem I've ever had with = my Ballistic=20 Jacket is that it is hot when it's hot out, for some reason they put in = arm vent=20 and not back vents. Joe Rocket has a new vesion of the jacket out = with a=20 back vent (right now both are in stores side by side, same price). = When,=20 and if, I replace my jacket (I don't know why I spend the money now) i = will be=20 buying another, unless I have money for a AeroStitch Darren in HiVis=20 Yellow.

- ------=_NextPart_000_01EE_01BF3D82.E6082700-- Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 11:47:25 -0600 From: aches@deltech.net (Chesley, Andrus) Subject: (klr650) RE: boots Hey guys, Any of you ever try the Cabella's Catolog.. I've been using the Justin Gortex dudes for a few years now.. Keep me feet dry in the rain and walking thu creeks etc. when I get off the bike a do some minor trail hiking.. Not a bad walking boot either.. Around 150 with shipping me thinking... Before that I was doing some Rocky Goretex/insulated tie up hiking boots but the toe was kinda big and really interfered with my shifting on the BMW R11GSA I was traveling about on back then. - -- Cheers and Best Regards Andy Chesley @ 56 and ticking Jennings, La. R11RA,DR350SET(forsale 2700) ,A14 "So Many Roads, So Little Time" http://members/deltech.net/aches Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:45:34 -0600 From: eric.burns@ni.com Subject: (klr650) 1992 KLR650 white AND blue? Was the '92 available in white (this is how I have seen the '92) AND blue? Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 11:08:19 -0700 From: Bogdan Swider Subject: RE: (klr650) Rear caliper question Hmm, maybe I have a wierd caliper. I'll try this... AGAIN! ;) OK there is the piston in the caliper. Inside the piston, there is this wierd plastic-like thing that seats inside of the piston. Basically the piston looks like a bucket, with a round thing inside of it, filling it. This thing is what actually makes contact with the brake pad. Now that I am thinking about it, for all I know, that was a shipping protector that my $!#@$^!!! POS dealer didn't take off. Based on the reactions of the list, I really think that may be the case. Jazz, Wish I had my shop manuals; they're at home. Take a look at yours The mechanical drawings of the brake innards should answer your question. Bogdan, who based on lister's suggestions is trying life at the bottom, only when answering short posts though. Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 11:23:14 -0700 From: Bogdan Swider Subject: RE: (klr650) Joe Rocket POS stuff They were happy to replace them under warranty but if they don't hold up, what good is that. I need a boot NOW that works. I now have a pair of SIDI Sympatex On Road boots on order. I should have gottem them in the first place but thre price was too much, so I thought. They are back ordered and on the slow boat fron Taiwan. Now that I have a KLR I wonder if I should have ordered the Combat Touring Boots. I really should have it all! Reading the boot posts tells me it's again time to plug Vasque Sundowners (made in Italy) I'm about to have mine resoled for the 3rd time. Completely waterproof, I wear them every day + always ride in them. They're 4 season footwear if you have the foresight to buy them so they fit with insoles (my podiatrist recommends Spenco), you can then remove them to make room for warm socks. They come in widths, $170-200. Bogdan Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:34:59 -0800 From: "Kahiau" Subject: (klr650) Huh? Do any of you know what KLR stands for if it does? kahiau E14 Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:39:25 -0800 From: "Kahiau" Subject: (klr650) Re: Riding Boots Actually, I use my specially designed adidas riding sippers (flip flops). Although they don't provide any true coverage, they are water proof. I am hoping Santa treats me to some great boots, but until then, these waterproof designer slippers will have to do. Aloha ; ) kahiau, E14 Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #1199 *****************************