From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #132 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Monday, March 15 1999 Volume 02 : Number 132 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:02:31 -0700 From: "Pokluda, Gino F" Subject: RE: (klr650)NKLR oil and dog food >>On the "oil hobby", there is no straight dope. As Skip says, there are "too many variables". And there's no way to mess with a hornets nest without "stirring it".<< I have to agree with Tom on this. 100% of the marketing of dog food is geared towards the pet owner. All dog food will meet the animals basic needs, it's the owner that needs the warm fuzzy feeling that they are getting good stuff. Same with motor oil. If you change your oil every 2-3K miles, you could run anything short of Crisco in your engine and it would be happy. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:55:07 EST From: LouMatts@aol.com Subject: (klr650) Opinions about R100GS? First of all - I have been a KLR rider for 3 years, I love the bike and have no intentions of selling it. Now - I have an opportunity to by a 91 R100GS in nice shape. I know there was a person on the list who mentioned in passing having one and (it sounded like) not being very happy with it. Any of you KLR riders out there have experience with the GS's that you can share with me? Lou in Minnesota ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:10:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Rev. Chuck MacKarness" Subject: (klr650) Arne's new ride > I bought a used A13 today with a whopping 27 > kilometers (18 miles) on it. Congrats! I hope you got a good price on it, 27 clicks is nothing but a way to talk 'em down! Now it's time to do that dreadful thing, break it in the right way. I've been working away when I can, but still have another 150 miles to go. For some reason it seems to take sooo long under 4k rpm. Speed up, speed down, speed up, speed down. I just got a nice trunk for this thing, I picked up a used Honda "Silver Wing" trunk, mounts like it was made for the KLR, and looks like it could hold a considerable amount of camping gear. Maybe even too much weight if not careful. I'll link to some photos after I'm done... === Rev. Chuck '99 KLR651 :^)>+ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:04:37 -0800 (PST) From: "Rev. Chuck MacKarness" Subject: Re: (klr650) oil changes - --- Sarah Barwig wrote: > OK. So I searched the archives and I'm going to go > buy some Mobil 1 > synthetic motor oil in a weight appropriate to the > list in the manual. > 15W50 or 10W40 depending on what the back of the can > says is better for > So Cal conditions. If this is horribly wrong, please, > somebody, stop me > before I do it. Hi Sarah, I had a GPZ 550 before with a nasty clutch slip, lots of meat and good steel and correct adjustment, still a bad slip. The local dealership recommended I drain and flush the Amsoil (100% syn.) and use the Honda Golden State(?) natural/syn. oil blend, stating the syn. oil was just too sippery for the cluth. What ever the reason for the slip, it stopped after getting away from the 100% syn. oil. Sounds plausable... === Rev. Chuck '99 KLR651 :^)>+ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:04:39 PST From: "Juan Villarreal" Subject: (klr650) En"light"enment sought... Fellow listers, Went looking at the web site with the various tail lamp augmentation systems (by the way, can someone send me the address for that again?) and I'm thinking about getting a pair of red ones. This isn't the helmet contraption mind you (already on order) but a pair of allegedly "super-bright" led lights that can run off either battery or system power. I would use them as additional tail lamps. The electrical system on my '97 KLR is bone stock. While my license plate light is still connected and operable, it's no longer required due to my having relocated the plate. My questions are the following: - - If I were to disconnect and/or disable the license plate light, would that free up enough energy to run the little buggers? From what I remember reading, their power draw is minimal (I can't remember what it was exactly). - - How would I set up the wiring? Please keep in mind I'm wanting to use them as brake lights, in conjunction with the current stock tail light. Would I run a Y-split out of the current brake light wire (one for the stock light, and another for the augment lights) and then another Y-split out of one of those wires to supply power to the two separate augment lights? Or would that create too much of a load for that particular "parent wire?" Please respond in the most bare bones laymen's terms (my degree is in finance). Technical jargon will only give me nightmares. Thanks in advance... Juan Villarreal, '97 KLR (just another chimp tryin' to get a banana) "The Happy Hooligan" Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:05:27 PST From: "Juan Villarreal" Subject: (klr650) En"light"enment sought... Fellow listers, Went looking at the web site with the various tail lamp augmentation systems (by the way, can someone send me the address for that again?) and I'm thinking about getting a pair of red ones. This isn't the helmet contraption mind you (already on order) but a pair of allegedly "super-bright" led lights that can run off either battery or system power. I would use them as additional tail lamps. The electrical system on my '97 KLR is bone stock. While my license plate light is still connected and operable, it's no longer required due to my having relocated the plate. My questions are the following: - - If I were to disconnect and/or disable the license plate light, would that free up enough energy to run the little buggers? From what I remember reading, their power draw is minimal (I can't remember what it was exactly). - - How would I set up the wiring? Please keep in mind I'm wanting to use them as brake lights, in conjunction with the current stock tail light. Would I run a Y-split out of the current brake light wire (one for the stock light, and another for the augment lights) and then another Y-split out of one of those wires to supply power to the two separate augment lights? Or would that create too much of a load for that particular "parent wire?" Please respond in the most bare bones laymen's terms (my degree is in finance). Technical jargon will only give me nightmares. Thanks in advance... Juan Villarreal, '97 KLR (just another chimp tryin' to get a banana) "The Happy Hooligan" Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:07:08 -0500 From: mjv2@psu.edu (Mark) Subject: (klr650) HELP!!! At 7:05 PM 3/14/99, bob kaub wrote: >One of our listers, Andres Carlstein, is leaving in a few days - on his >trusty KLR650 - for Ushuaia, Argentina. Hi Folks, I'm traveling with Andres for part of the way, but I have a problem with my Tengai which requires me to remove my magneto flywheel. I need tool #57001-1184, "magneto holder" to do this. Do any of you own this tool? If so, would you FedEx it to me overnight (charge my account)?? I'll replace it and order a new one for you from Fred Hink and have it sent directly to you. Fred doesn't have it in stock and therefore I wouldn't have it in time. Thanks, Mark B2 A2 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:09:29 -0500 From: "Rob Tayloe" Subject: Re: (klr650) Opinions about R100GS? I have both the BMW R100GS/PD and more recently the KLR650. To me the bikes are somewhat similar, but for different purposes. The R100GS/PD is very comfortable for long touring type rides. I know that many KLR owners use this bike for touring. Time will tell if I likewise do so. For the BMW I have installed the tall Parabellum windshield to help with the windblast. This bike is rarely ridden off road. It is nevertheless a neat, funky bike. There is a separate "cult" for the GS bikes. You may wish to subscribe to the GS list. A web page with info on the GSs can be found at: http://www.micapeak.com/bmw/gs/gs.html A faq on the GS list is found at: http://www.rcb.org/bmw-gs.htm With respect to the KLR, I bought an '88 A2 a couple of weeks ago. I rode it the 16 miles from the seller's home to my home - in snow flurries - followed by my wife. Since that time, I've stripped the bike down and am going through a clean, lube, adjust, modify exercise. The KLR mods are essentially those given on the KLR web page i.e., braided brake lines, DP brake pads, moose skid plate, K&N filter, jet kit, and progressive fork springs. It already had a SuperTrap exhaust. I'm also checking (and adjusting) the valve shim clearances. The BMW is world's ahead of the KLR in this regard. I plan to use the KLR for more off-road riding as it is lighter than the GS/PD. Ride Safely Rob Tayloe Columbus, Ohio - -----Original Message----- From: LouMatts@aol.com >First of all - I have been a KLR rider for 3 years, I love the bike and have >no intentions of selling it. Now - I have an opportunity to by a 91 R100GS in >nice shape. I know there was a person on the list who mentioned in passing >having one and (it sounded like) not being very happy with it. Any of you KLR >riders out there have experience with the GS's that you can share with me? > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:11:55 -0800 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (klr650) Arne's new ride - -----Original Message----- From: Rev. Chuck MacKarness To: Arne Larsen ; KLR650 List ; Kurt Simpson Date: Monday, March 15, 1999 10:17 AM Subject: (klr650) Arne's new ride >I just got a nice trunk for this thing, I picked up a >used Honda "Silver Wing" trunk, mounts like it was made >for the KLR, and looks like it could hold a >considerable amount of camping gear. Maybe even too >much weight if not careful. I'll link to some photos >after I'm done... >=== >Rev. Chuck >'99 KLR651 >:^)>+ Ya - the dreaded break-in. I'm going to put either a magnetic drain plug in or stick some super-duty magnets to the oil filter before I start breaking the bike in. I figure that this is the time where most of the metal filings will occur. Did you have to make any changes to your stock rack to adapt the Silverwing trunk? I'd be interested to know. There seem to be a lot of old Silverwings around here. Thanks, Arne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:08:32 -0800 From: West Hovland Subject: Re: (klr650) Don't sweat it... My idea is : Don't sweat the petty stuff, and Don't pet the sweaty stuff. West ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:28:49 -0500 From: "Hamilton, Peter F" Subject: (klr650) Gripsters -- tubeless? Got a new set of Avon Gripsters for the KLR from DK the other day. The packaging sez they're tubeless tires. Called DK about this and they said that the tubeless and tube tires are one and the same. They lying to me??? - --pete Peter F. Hamilton (607) 770-4196 Mechanical Engineer peter.f.hamilton@lmco.com Lockheed Martin Control Systems Hybrid Electric Vehicle Development "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away" -- Tom Waits ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:37:46 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Gripsters -- tubeless? >Got a new set of Avon Gripsters for the KLR from DK the other day. The >packaging sez they're tubeless tires. Called DK about this and they said >that the tubeless and tube tires are one and the same. They lying to me??? > >--pete yep...but you can just run them with a tube... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:44:30 -0500 From: "J.Taylor" Subject: Re: (klr650) Wandering eye I rode both the Baghira and the Mastiff at Daytona. VERY fast bikes. The gearing differs, as you would expect, between the two with the Bag makin' it down low and the Mastiff makin the higher top end. I found the handlebar controls on the Bag to be a little cheesy and they even malfunctioned resulting in a more interesting ride. The dash light said it was in neutral, but the electric start wouldn't engage to start it at the first stop light. When we (me and the ride leader) finally got the false neutral corrected, the starter engaged and he said "hang on, we gotta catch the group!" (Unlike most manufacturers, Guzzi/Muz/Laverda rides were NOT the usual ordered cattle call-they consisted of "free for all" passing and wild curvy, back road bombing at illegal speeds. You sign a disclaimer/release for a reason with these guys.) I hung on and he sped off on a Guzzi Centauro Sport. I blasted right behind him thru the gears struggling to maintain his 160-170 kph pace thru traffic. I had no idea waht this bike was capable of, on my first ride, redlining the hell out of the motor. We topped out at a comfortable 180kph (the gauges only read kph), well I did, he could have legged it much faster I know. The bike was rock solid, braked well (stock SS lines help), cornered dreamily (Pirelli DS tires on this one, type forgotten) and plain hauled ass. The only stange part was feeling like I was sitting nearly over the front wheel. Once I got that fear set aside (QUICKLY) it was a blast. The one I rode had a S.T. IDS muff and Ohlins remote reservoir rear susp. I was thoroughly impressed with its capabilities. 660cc Yamaha motor earned its keep that day. The body work looks like it is molded Play-Doh though. Not bad, just funky coloring and plastics in strange intertwined stylings and a dirtbike seat. VERY high seat, anyone under 6'0" should expect to tip toe at first until you load the suspension; moreso than the KLR. Jake Gino F Pokluda wrote: > > Well, I must admit that the MuZ Bahghira set up with the 7.5 gallon tank, > aluminum panniers and monster skid plate in the latest Touratech catalogue > has piqued my interest. Has anyone rode or even seen on of these in the > flesh(without all of the gear of course)? I know it got a luke warm > reception in MCN. > > Gino ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:41:26 -0800 From: "Shelton, John" Subject: (klr650) Heated Grips Please >...Arnie, one is a keyed HOT and the other is ground, I use them for my >heated hand grips, Frank... Which heated hand grips do you use? I have heard there is some wrap-around and velcro on or something brand, anyone have any experience using these? Or which ones are 'the dope'? and where does the switch mount? Has anyone taken a photo of the hot set-up and stuck it up for viewing anywhere? Sorry for all the questions but Id like to add a little BMW convenience to my dirt machine! john ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:48:43 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) Gripsters -- tubeless? - -----Original Message----- From: Hamilton, Peter F To: 'klr650@lists.xmission.com' Date: Monday, March 15, 1999 5:37 AM Subject: (klr650) Gripsters -- tubeless? >Got a new set of Avon Gripsters for the KLR from DK the other day. The >packaging sez they're tubeless tires. Called DK about this and they said >that the tubeless and tube tires are one and the same. They lying to me??? > >--pete Sorta, There is a tube type and tubeless front tire but I am not sure about the rear. Avon makes an S and a T speed rating Gripster for the front and the rear. The Tubeless is a T speed rated tire. 118 mph vs 112 mph Fred ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:46:50 -0500 From: Mike Ratta Subject: RE: (klr650) Gripsters -- tubeless? Those gripster H tires look nice, but I think theyre radial tires. Would this affect use on the KLR at all? They will likely be more difficult to mount, as most radials I've seen have pretty thick sidewalls. anyone here use the gripster H? >Got a new set of Avon Gripsters for the KLR from DK the other day. The >packaging sez they're tubeless tires. Called DK about this and they said >that the tubeless and tube tires are one and the same. They lying to me??? > >--pete Sorta, There is a tube type and tubeless front tire but I am not sure about the rear. Avon makes an S and a T speed rating Gripster for the front and the rear. The Tubeless is a T speed rated tire. 118 mph vs 112 mph Fred ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #132 ****************************