From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #134 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Monday, March 15 1999 Volume 02 : Number 134 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 22:48:43 -0000 From: "Stevens, Greig (CALBBAY)" Subject: (klr650) ENGINE CHOPPY Lately, when I change down gears then accelerate again the engine has sounded a bit choppy. It sounds, but does not feel, as though I am in too high a gear. It smooths out at around 3,000 revs and doesn't seem to be affecting the overall performance of the bike. Has anyone else experienced this or have any idea what the problem is? Regards, GREIG STEVENS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:53:41 -0800 (PST) From: "Rev. Chuck MacKarness" Subject: Re: NKLR (klr650) oil changes > >bad slip. The local dealership recommended I drain > >and flush the Amsoil (100% syn.) and use the Honda > >Golden Spectro(?) natural/syn. oil blend, stating > >the syn. oil... > > > Nothing against this oil, but I was burning almost a > quart of this stuff > every couple of race weekends (in my Ducati), then > tried a different oil and > haven't burned a single drop since. Needless to say > I was glad I tried > this before I had it torn down to look at valves & > rings. Much happier with > Mobil 1 for four bucks a quart. > BG > Did I mention I sold the bike before the next oil change? I really have no experience with this Honda oil, but I hear it is great lube. I like Castrol GT 10w40 myself. Any petroleum engineers out there have reasons not to use this stuff, like all the suspended particulates in Pennzoil? Any takers? === Rev. Chuck '99 KLR651 :^)>+ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 18:28:56 -0500 From: "Peter Dahlheimer, MD" Subject: (klr650) side protectors for saddlebags i have my own quick and dirty and cheap solution to the problem of melting plastic (also have ortlieb dry bags. LOVEM). i had an old rocker panel from an old vw beetle sitting in the garage. i just cut it to fit, bolted the bottom end using one of the passenger footpeg bolts and the other to the rear muffler top bolt using a spacer made of flat stock (bent). the rocker panel was convenient because it had a rubbery covering on it and i had it handy, but anything of similar construction (i.e., metal and bendable/cuttable) would work fine. _pete ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 18:36:10 -0500 From: "Leslie" Subject: (klr650) (NKLR) New bike and Questions Hello all, one of my roommates just picked up a 93' BMW K1100LT...for around $7,000 really nice bike...and $1850 under blue book value....... I rode it for a bit on Saturday....nice and smooth ride, has a Corbin seat and adjustable windshield. Lots of Storage boxes too....I'm not used to the shaft drive though. Anyhow, I was wondering if any of you might own one or know someone who does, so that I could get some basic info for him. He doesn't have an internet account, so I am going to mediate for him. Any info or comments would be helpful...especially on the ABS brakes...I have them on my car, so I know the basics...but don't know about the ABS on bikes...the bike came with a Clymer for the K100 series, it covers the K1000LT, but I don't know how much......the owners manual was not on the bike.... Only complaint I have had about the bike is the Radio.....my bike doesn't have one...and you can't start the bike on the side stand even when the bike is in neutral...out of the many bikes that I've owned this is the first with a neutral lever down kill switch..is that normal for the larger touring type bikes...I like to start mine and then finish getting geared up.....and besides its kinda cold natured from what I saw. Thanx for any help or direction to a Bavarian site for info....Les... Kat750, KLR650, NX250, XR350 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 18:41:10 -0800 From: nocoffee@juno.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Gripsters -- tubeless? Yup, they ARE lying to you. Called DK about this and they >said >that the tubeless and tube tires are one and the same. They lying to >me??? ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 18:47:47 -0800 From: nocoffee@juno.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Heated Grips Please >Which heated hand grips do you use? I have heard there is some >wrap-around >and velcro on or something brand, anyone have any experience using >these? I have a set of these (bought from Rider Wearehouse). They work fine plus you can easily unplug them in the summer and stow them easily. I bought mine without a switch and bought an in-line switch (like on your Grandma's heating pad) and plugged it into the accessory wires hanging from the headlight. The only negatives I can see are that it makes your grips kinda big and you have to keep your hands wrapped around them (including the ends of your fingers) or they only warm your palms... ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 11:02:40 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: NKLR (klr650) oil changes Rev. Chuck MacKarness wrote: [...] > 10w40 myself. Any petroleum engineers out there have > reasons not to use this stuff, like all the suspended > particulates in Pennzoil? I would have thought that keeping particulates suspended was good since they get drained out at the next change, or if big enough get held in the filter. Mister_T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 10:59:33 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) ENGINE CHOPPY Stevens, Greig (CALBBAY) wrote: > Lately, when I change down gears then accelerate again the engine has > sounded a bit choppy. It sounds, but does not feel, as though I am in too > high a gear. It smooths out at around 3,000 revs and doesn't seem to be > affecting the overall performance of the bike. Smooths out at ~3000? At what revs is this "choppy" happening? (For the non-Aussies out there hoping for a translation, I don't know what is meant by "choppy" here either). FWIW, KLRs don't like significant throttle openings below ~3000rpm, and by significant I mean about 1/4 throttle upward. Else it sounds maybe like a minor blockage in the carby somewhere. If so, try flushing the floatbowl first and then see how it goes. Mister_T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 16:54:48 -0800 (PST) From: "Rev. Chuck MacKarness" Subject: Re: NKLR (klr650) oil changes Out of the can as discovered by a geologist friend of mine! More floaters than any other off the shelf oil. Not a slam on Pennzoil, but I want to be the one adding suspended particulates to my oil to be carried to the filter, away from the bearing surfaces. - --- Ted Palmer wrote: > Rev. Chuck MacKarness wrote: > > [...] > > 10w40 myself. Any petroleum engineers out there > have > > reasons not to use this stuff, like all the > suspended > > particulates in Pennzoil? > > I would have thought that keeping particulates > suspended was good > since they get drained out at the next change, or if > big enough get > held in the filter. > > Mister_T > > > === Rev. Chuck '99 KLR651 :^)>+ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 20:01:10 -0500 From: "Stephen Rivett" Subject: Re: NKLR (klr650) oil changes I remember when we stocked up on 2-stroke oil while going through the states once. It claimed to be ash free but when I opened up the bottle it turned out to be chunky as gooey. I determined that it was useless so I oiled the nearest anthill. Oh yeah, what's that dark stuff that's always at the bottom of my 4L jugs of Castrol GTX? I've decided to stay with the oil even though it has the extra stuff on the bottom because it burns less than Quaker State and Crappy (Canadian) Tire Oil. Stephen Rivett - -----Original Message----- From: Rev. Chuck MacKarness To: Ted Palmer ; klr650 Date: March 15, 1999 7:53 PM Subject: Re: NKLR (klr650) oil changes >Out of the can as discovered by a geologist friend of >mine! More floaters than any other off the shelf oil. >Not a slam on Pennzoil, but I want to be the one adding >suspended particulates to my oil to be carried to the >filter, away from the bearing surfaces. > >--- Ted Palmer wrote: >> Rev. Chuck MacKarness wrote: ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 18:10:50 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) ENGINE CHOPPY |Lately, when I change down gears then accelerate again the engine has |sounded a bit choppy. It sounds, but does not feel, as though I am in too |high a gear. It smooths out at around 3,000 revs and doesn't seem to be |affecting the overall performance of the bike. | |Has anyone else experienced this or have any idea what the problem is? Greig, I had the same thought as Mr. T...is it time for a carb cleaning? We've found that we can pull the carb w/o breaking the backbone...or, you can rotate it this way and that and get at the floats, float needle valve and jets for cleaning... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 18:12:30 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) (NKLR) New bike and Questions | Hello all, one of my roommates just picked up a 93' BMW K1100LT...for |around $7,000 really nice bike...and $1850 under blue book value....... I |rode it for a bit on Saturday....nice and smooth ride, has a Corbin seat and |adjustable windshield. Lots of Storage boxes too....I'm not used to the |shaft drive though. There are tons of BMW sites and lists...start with www.micapeak.com and look up mailing list round-ups...the bike has the reputation of being and extraordinary tourer, silky smooth and reliable... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 17:49:07 PST From: "Juan Villarreal" Subject: (klr650) Aluminum brush guards My fellow listers: I'm looking to upgrade my brush guards from the all-plastic Acerbis Rally Brush Guards to an aluminum type with a plastic fairing bolted on. Specifically I'm interested in either the MSR Lever Guards or the Maier Deluxe Woods Pro models. Anybody out there gone with either one of these? How easy or difficult were they to install? They both have fairing options. How did those work out? Thanks in advance, and thanks to all who answered my tail light inquiry (I'm going to order a pair tomorrow). Later... Juan Villarreal, '97 KLR "The Happy Hooligan" Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 20:52:06 EST From: JSBuke@aol.com Subject: (klr650) unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 22:20:25 EST From: FTabor231@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Airbox venting In a message dated 3/15/99 11:46:29 AM Central Standard Time, ajax@xmission.com writes: << I drilled 12 1" holes in the top of the box and filled them with unifilters...I had to split the backbone to get the airbox out... >> I read somewhere of a guy that used a 1/2 " copper union, heated it with a propane torch and pushed its end against the air cleaner box plastic and gave it a slight twist which burned out an exact 1" hole for the unifilter with no mess. Anyone try it? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 22:42:36 EST From: FTabor231@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Heated Grips Please In a message dated 3/15/99 1:42:42 PM Central Standard Time, John_Shelton@intuit.com writes: << Which heated hand grips do you use? I have heard there is some wrap-around and velcro on or something brand, anyone have any experience using these? >> John, my favorites are made by Enduro Engineering. They are a self adhesive heat pad that stick on your handlebar (left side) and your throttle pipe on the other side, then you slip your stock or any other favorite grip on that. They work great. My wife and I just came back from a night ride and with the grips on 'low', your gloved hand stays warm. If you do these. let me know and I'll email you direct, some tips I learned by installing three sets this past winter on different machines. Frank ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 22:07:13 -0600 From: "J.P.Zucht" Subject: Re: (klr650) ENGINE CHOPPY Stevens, Greig (CALBBAY) wrote: > > Lately, when I change down gears then accelerate again the engine has > sounded a bit choppy. It sounds, but does not feel, as though I am in too > high a gear. It smooths out at around 3,000 revs and doesn't seem to be > affecting the overall performance of the bike. > > Has anyone else experienced this or have any idea what the problem is? ...my 1st guess would be bad gas...then a carb problem... hungree ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 22:48:13 EST From: FTabor231@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Heated Grips Please In a message dated 3/15/99 2:38:27 PM Central Standard Time, alarsen@rapidnet.net writes: << I've never used heated grips on any of my bikes. Are they nice? I guess these little perks beat the shit out of frozen fingers... Arne - cold hands/warm heart >> Best $30.00 I've ever spent! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 23:27:32 -0500 From: Mark Subject: (klr650) HELP!!! Howdy, I no longer need help. A local Honda shop was cool enough to let me BORROW a suitable tool overnight. My B2 is back together and running swell. I think I'll still order the tool (and some other goodies) from Fred when I get back from Florida. This probably won't be the last time I'll need to remove the flywheel. Mark B2 A2 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 21:23:00 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Airbox venting |<< I drilled 12 1" holes in the top of the box and filled them with |unifilters...I had to | split the backbone to get the airbox out... >> |I read somewhere of a guy that used a 1/2 " copper union, heated it with a |propane torch and pushed its end against the air cleaner box plastic and gave |it a slight twist which burned out an exact 1" hole for the unifilter with no |mess. Anyone try it? This sounds like an excellent idea...I used a speedbore (11/16) and had to be very careful not to make the holes too big... Kurt I've been looking at air compressors but haven't seen any that would seem small enough to fit under the sidecover...any info on type and where you picked it up? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 22:59:59 EST From: VFR754@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Aluminum brush guards <> I put the Moose aluminum brush guards with the spoilers on my 98'. I love em'. They are beefy and tighten up very well. I think that you'll have to modify your levers no matter what kind you put on, at least most of the people I've talked have had to either move everything over alot, or cut the balls off of at least one of their levers. Other than that, they are great. I think most of the aluminum ones are similiar from MSR/Maier/Moose. You want me to send you a picture of them mounted on my bike? Let me know, Bill S. A12 Montgomery, IL. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 22:57:33 EST From: FTabor231@aol.com Subject: Re: NKLR (klr650) oil changes In a message dated 3/15/99 4:52:29 PM Central Standard Time, klr651@yahoo.com writes: << I like Castrol GT 10w40 myself. Any petroleum engineers out there have reasons not to use this stuff, like all the suspended particulates in Pennzoil? Any takers? >> Rev. Chuck, As a motorcycle dealer for 12 years, we used Castrol GTX exclusively and never had a broken Engine in all those years and thousands of bikes. We had an Emgo oil filter implode once damaging a Suzuki GS 750 motor. With the new API H and J ratings, I don't know if our experience would still be the same. Frank ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #134 ****************************