From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #158 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Saturday, March 20 1999 Volume 02 : Number 158 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 12:18:46 PST From: "" Subject: (klr650) POWER Hello. I recenty bought a 1992 KLR 650, but immediately reckoned it lacked a lot of what makes riding a motorcycle so wonderful, POWER. So I replaced the stock engine with a inline fourcylinder from a ZX-11. A lot of work had to be done to fit the new engine to the KLR frame, but it was worth it. Acceleration and topspeed improved a lot, and highspeed wheelies are so much easier to accomplish. The frame is not made for such a strong engine (150 bhp), but wobbling is a challange to every true rider. Has anyone tried anything like this besides me?? Nick Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 15:21:38 -0500 From: PAT_HENSLEY@HP-USA-om32.om.hp.com Subject: (klr650) KLR Headlight Bulb removal It would seem easy, but I can't pull my headlight bulb out. It the 'golden' colored metal ring appears stuck. Any tips? Pat Austin, Texas 1997 KLR650 w/11.1K miles ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 15:40:00 -0500 From: PAT_HENSLEY@HP-USA-om32.om.hp.com Subject: (klr650) RE: Headlight bulb removal >>>>It would seem easy, but I can't pull my headlight bulb out. It the 'golden' colored metal ring appears stuck. Any tips?<<<< Never mind. Pat Austin, Texas 1997 KLR650 w/11.1K miles ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 13:36:41 -0700 From: "Skip Faulkner" Subject: Re: (klr650) POWER >Hello. > >I recenty bought a 1992 KLR 650, but immediately reckoned it lacked a >lot of >what makes riding a motorcycle so wonderful, POWER. > >So I replaced the stock engine with a inline fourcylinder from a ZX-11. >A lot of work had to be done to fit the new engine to the KLR frame, but >it was worth it. > >Acceleration and topspeed improved a lot, and highspeed wheelies are so >much easier to accomplish. > >The frame is not made for such a strong engine (150 bhp), but wobbling >is a challange to every true rider. > >Has anyone tried anything like this besides me?? > >Nick > Nick, I did try one engine swap. Wanting power as well as economy, I installed a Renault-Moraine horizontally opposed 4 cylinder ( the 6 cylinder require to much lengthening of the frame) turbo-diesel in my KLR. There was quite a weight change, as it`s water-cooled ( 325lbs.) but my range per tank increased to 125 mpg. The main problem was that because of the unbelievable torque increase, the first time I tried a wheelie, the rear frame and swingarm twisted to a 45 degree angle, which left me with a problem. This was even after a complete frame beef-up ( 3x3 square tube moly all around and 4" I-beams for swing arms). Besides that, I was burning the soles of my boots off since they had to rest on top of the cylinders ( which put my knees level with the top of the tank), but that could be remedied. Engine noise was also a problem. Needless to say, that one didn`t work too well. I`m trying an inline 4 cyl. turbo diesel out of my Trooper next time. Skip ( power and economy, always a grasp away) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 15:54:29 EST From: Cloudhid@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) definitely NKLR POWERED On 3/20/99, parallelltwin@hotmail.com writes: snip >So I replaced the stock engine with a inline fourcylinder from a ZX-11. >A lot of work had to be done to fit the new engine to the KLR frame, >but it was worth it....Has anyone tried anything like this besides me? You're an animal Nick. I haven't heard anyone say they added cylinders. But I would love to see your bike. Any pictures you can send to me? And don't worry. This group is very friendly. No one will think any less of you or your bike...now that it's not a thumper. Redondo Ron (just a friendly, inquisitive fellow lister) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 13:55:13 -0700 From: "Vik Banerjee" Subject: Re: (klr650) heated grips, not Kimpex John, I work for myself so no fear I am not pimping their products. =) I wired the grips directly to my battery with an 10A inline fuse. The aerostich kit comes with a plug, but I have no idea what the proper name for it is. The Kimpex kit does not come with a plug, but since the grips heaters are part of your bike its not like you'll be taking them off regularly. Cheers, Vik - -----Original Message----- From: OlZorro@aol.com To: marbach@nucleus.com Date: Saturday, March 20, 1999 11:42 AM Subject: Re: (klr650) heated grips, not Kimpex >Vik; > > Thank you so much for the post; it's exactly what I was looking for. Do >you work for them? How did you set up the accessory plug; I've heard that >the John Deere plug works best. > >Cheers, > >John Paul Gray >Dana Point CA > >95 KLR650 >94 ST1100 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 15:59:39 EST From: LPetty4585@aol.com Subject: (klr650) Brake Lines Tried out my brakes today with the russell SS lines (w/plastic coating) front is excellent, can lock up the wheel, the rear is a minimual improvement, think due to smaller line from master cylinder to fluid tank, has anyone changed this line, does it help. Lines fit perfect, Mike at Dual-Star indicated that they are designing a new mount for the rear master cylinder as the factory one cracks and can come apart on a fall or if you bend the brake pedal, anyone ever have problems with the mount. He said that they will make it from a heavy SS. Larry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 17:50:23 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) ignition sticking Sarah Barwig wrote: [...] > Is it ok for me to put WD40 on the key and use it to lube > up the pins? Or is that bad? Or is there a better commonly available > substance? Considering there is an electrical switch under it, maybe something like CRC 2-26 (or some other similar electrical gadget lube) might be theoretically better than WD40 or CRC 5-56 or similar. No harm in using a _little_ bit of graphite, either. I guess the graphite would be a cheap option to start with, home hardware stores always have little puff packs of graphite for a couple of dollars. Mister_T ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 17:42:52 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: (klr650) Reducing oil burning Jeff & Lisa Walker wrote: [...] > Speaking of oil consumption on a probably improperly broken in engine > (22,000 miles, about 10-16 oz consumed about every 100 miles), does anyone > know of a good aftermarket oil additive that stops oil burning? [...] Just to begin with, try a different oil. My 600 noticably uses oil these days. At one stage I tried some Penrite 25W-60 (labelled as "Endurolube" and angled toward big single bikes). With the Penrite it burned more than it would have with what I was using at the time (can't remember now what that was). I guess that the Endurolube was designed for hot running aircooled singles, and was too thick for the rings to wipe off my water cooled sleeves. Even oils of the same viscosity rating but different maker burn off at different rates. My Honda RC17 seems to like Pennzoil 20W-50, while running Shell semi-synthetic 20W-50 burned off at a truly alarming rate, especially on its most recent dyno run, producing frightening clouds of smoke. A cohort tried Pennzoil and it burned off more than full synthetic Shell in _his_ RC17. Try a different brand, or try something a bit thicker or thinner and see what happens. Every bike is different, like oils. Mister_T ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 16:46:48 -0500 From: "Stephen Rivett" Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: (NKLR) Ah the Navy Hehe, the Americans dared go back to Canada? When my friends were in the multinational wargames, possibly in Newfoundland, they had it pretty damn easy. They forced a personnel carrier to stop in an ambush and "killed" every single one of the Americans as they climbed out in single file. It was during the day too...I'd love to see what would have happened if it was dark out since Canada is one of the only countries to train troops for night warfare. Stephen Rivett - -----Original Message----- From: Robert Morgan To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: March 20, 1999 11:52 AM Subject: (klr650) Re: (NKLR) Ah the Navy >A friend of mine sent me this excerpt. There are so many Canadians on this >list I thought I might share it with you. I hope you enjoy it as much as I >did. >Morgan >Life is too short to take ANYTHING too seriously! > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 14:45:00 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Brake Lines |this line, does it help. Lines fit perfect, Mike at Dual-Star indicated that |they are designing a new mount for the rear master cylinder as the factory one |cracks and can come apart on a fall or if you bend the brake pedal, anyone |ever have problems with the mount. He said that they will make it from a |heavy SS. | |Larry | Yes, Jim Barthell did...it is called a rear master stay and I carry a spare with me... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 16:54:11 -0500 From: "Stephen Rivett" Subject: Re: (klr650) Homemade Tank Bags/Luggage There is dye made specifically for dying clothes black, try your local "Goth" store of some kind of craft store. You just toss everything into a bucket along with some of the dye. I wouldn't really worry about Olive Drab, what could possibly happen? I am going to be buying a pair of ammo boxes from the Surplus store here some time soon. They are about 6"x12"x18", painted blue with the specs of the ammo inside the boxes (possibly 12mm but I only saw it in my peripheral vision) and have a waterproof ring. Cost is 17$ each. Only an idiot would thing I was toting anti-aircraft ammo on my CR250... Stephen Rivett - -----Original Message----- From: Kraka To: klr- 650 Date: March 20, 1999 1:42 PM Subject: (klr650) Homemade Tank Bags/Luggage >The bags are now colored with typical military O.D. >green. I will be looking into a way to dye them black >(if possible). Due to the general paranoia of the American >Public, I do not recommend hitting the road with this >luggage in its original colour and markings. The afore >mentioned paranoid masses will think you are a militia kook. >Thanks, >Da Kraksta >A13 5k+ miles > > > >seat and > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 17:00:22 -0500 From: "Stephen Rivett" Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Headlight Bulb removal There is the messy way to remove bulbs. Tear off the glass and then put a Robertson (square) Head screw driver into the bulb's "brass". Then give the screwdriver a good jab against the butt end. This will loosen up any corrosion in the socket, ofcourse only do this if it is a push in and twist type bulb. Always replace the bulbs with some grease on the new ones, they won't short out. Stephen Rivett - -----Original Message----- From: PAT_HENSLEY@HP-USA-om32.om.hp.com To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: March 20, 1999 3:22 PM Subject: (klr650) KLR Headlight Bulb removal >It would seem easy, but I can't pull my headlight bulb out. It the 'golden' >colored metal ring appears stuck. > >Any tips? > >Pat >Austin, Texas >1997 KLR650 w/11.1K miles > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 09:03:20 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Dynojet kit in a 600 and jetlist Pippo Nicotera wrote: [DJ kit in euro 600] > installed strictly as per the DJ instructions about tuning it with the K&N > and the IDS (IDS currently with 10 disks). Can I assume that you used DJ "stage 1" specifications? > I didn't have time to experiment > that much (The carb on the 600, you know that, is less accessible than on > the 650: it's difficult to turn it and work on it without removing the whole > thing from the bike... I've never removed mine, but I have taken the subframe off a few times to clean that and clean the inside of the airbox. If getting the carby turned is a bit tricky, then I'll just swing the subframe back. [...] > I have made some test runs > removing the air filter and I believe this can be a good approximation (Am I > wrong here?) K&N are supposed to flow quite well. Now that you mention it, I'll have to see what the difference is on the dyno between the 2 filters and no filter, when the time comes. For now, I'll use the factory filter. The K&N for the 600 is not available here in Oz. If I want one, I'll have to get it from overseas. Speeding up my 2 old bikes in a small market like Oz can be hard. I can't get a jet kit for the CBX750 in Oz, but I can get a K&N for it (it's on order right now). It sounds like DJ have a happy customer in Italy, at least. My 600 DJ kit is sitting here on the table next the screen. I'm tempted to fit in now, but seeing how it compares to stock on a dyno is also tempting. Now that I have my test muffler in 3 pieces, I can see where I think the greatest restriction is. Now I have to decide what to do about it, and take some more pictures of it of course. Mister_T - -- \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\ | RC17 KLR600 Roces BCN FreeBSD 2.2.5-R NT4W (ugh) | | tedp[at]replicant[dot]apana[dot]org[dot]au | \|_________________________________________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 15:03:40 -0700 From: "Vik Banerjee" Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: (NKLR) Ah the Navy Actually, almost every country trains for night warfare and most combat occurs at night. The US has much better and much more night vision equipment then Canada has. Not to say that the superiority of the Canadian soldier won't overcome that imbalance, but your statement is off the mark. Cheers, Vik (retired Captain Canadian Military Engineers - with shitty night vision) - -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Rivett To: KLR650-List Date: Saturday, March 20, 1999 2:46 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: (NKLR) Ah the Navy >Hehe, the Americans dared go back to Canada? When my friends were in the >multinational wargames, possibly in Newfoundland, they had it pretty damn >easy. They forced a personnel carrier to stop in an ambush and "killed" >every single one of the Americans as they climbed out in single file. It >was during the day too...I'd love to see what would have happened if it was >dark out since Canada is one of the only countries to train troops for night >warfare. > >Stephen Rivett > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert Morgan >To: klr650@lists.xmission.com >Date: March 20, 1999 11:52 AM >Subject: (klr650) Re: (NKLR) Ah the Navy > > >>A friend of mine sent me this excerpt. There are so many Canadians on this >>list I thought I might share it with you. I hope you enjoy it as much as I >>did. >>Morgan >>Life is too short to take ANYTHING too seriously! >> >> >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 16:27:01 -0600 From: Alan Henderson Subject: Re: (klr650) Dynojet kit in a 600 and jetlist >Now that I have my test muffler in 3 pieces, I can see where I think >the greatest restriction is. Now I have to decide what to do about it, >and take some more pictures of it of course. > >Mister_T Pictures! Remember we want to see pictures! Alan Henderson, Iowa A13 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 14:39:42 -0800 (PST) From: Alex Jomarron Subject: (klr650) Helge Pedersen in Chicago Greetings Enthusiasts, I am announcing the confirmation of Helge Pedersen's visit to Chicago to present his Multimedia show in support of his book 10 Years on 2 Wheels. It based on his epic decade long ride around the world. Here are the details: When: Friday April 9 @7:30-9:30 Where: Field Museum in Chicago. Roosevelt & Lake Shore Drive. Enter the through the south entrance. Cost: Tickets $12 ea. Parking will be at the museum and is $7. Availability: Tickets are available in advance from Laurel BMW Motorcycles @ 645 Westmont Dr., Westmont, IL (630)654-3033. Payment is to be made in cash or a cheque, made out to Helge Pedersen. Thanks for the bandwidth, (Mike-would you forward this to the SnackPack list?) Alex Jomarron Oak Park, IL == Alex Jomarron Oak Park, IL USA _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #158 ****************************