From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #169 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Monday, March 22 1999 Volume 02 : Number 169 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 09:56:47 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) GEAR LEVER POSITIONING Stevens, Greig (CALBBAY) wrote: [altered shift lever position] > I slipped it into first (mine clunks into 1st when cold, so does my > neighbours KR1) and found that it was easy to change up through the gears > but when I got to the first intersection, about 2kms down the road, it > wouldn't change down. I pulled over thinking how could I have f******d the The 600 is the same with the stock lever, I've tried it. I'd hope that the accessory levers that other listers have mentioned in the past allow a bit more flexibility in location. Else, a custom shift lever shaped like an ignition spanner would be rquired. Mister_T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 10:33:41 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Maiden voyage gone awry. Long. Eric Winslow wrote: [bike won't idle between highway cruising] > Now I need to go back and pick the bike up from Aberdeen, Maryland where I > left it. I wonder if it just might act like nothing happened. It just might act fine. What were the ambient temps like? At the risk of making some listers groan, could these be the effects of carby icing? Lets not forget that for 1994 (the last year of the 600) the factory fitted water heating to the carby (page 5-2, 600 electric start supplement). I've had my 600 behave the same way at night out on the open road with no lasting ill affects. It's possible that the KLR is more prone to icing than aircooled big singles due to the radiator shedding heat away from the carby. An aircooled bike like a NX650 or DR650 may have more heat lurking about directly behind the head where the carby sits. Mister_T Carb ice conspiracy theories a speciality. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:59:06 -0600 From: "Ken Belfatto" Subject: (klr650) NKLR Mystery Oil Additive This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BE748D.ADA5FD60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know it's wacky, but I always put a shot glass full of Marvel Mystery = Oil in the crank at every oil change(1000mi). Doesn't make a damn bit of difference, but It provides a big = physiological boost. Anyone else? - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BE748D.ADA5FD60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I know it's wacky, but I always put a shot glass = full of=20 Marvel Mystery Oil in the crank at every oil = change(1000mi).
Doesn't make a damn bit of difference, but It = provides a big=20 physiological boost.
Anyone else?
- ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BE748D.ADA5FD60-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 19:06:37 -0500 From: "Rob Tayloe" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Mystery Oil Additive This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01BE7497.1C2F53E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have, upon occasion, put MMO in with the oil in an old Triumph. I always add 2oz MMO per 5 gal gas at each fillup. I also add Stabil (2 oz per 5 gal gas). This is done to each of my bikes with no ill effects. Perhaps also with no benefit, but as you said, it gives me a psychological boost. Ride Safely, Rob Tayloe Columbus, Ohio -----Original Message----- From: Ken Belfatto To: KLR List Date: Monday, March 22, 1999 6:56 PM Subject: (klr650) NKLR Mystery Oil Additive =20 =20 I know it's wacky, but I always put a shot glass full of Marvel = Mystery Oil in the crank at every oil change(1000mi). Doesn't make a damn bit of difference, but It provides a big = physiological boost. Anyone else? - ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01BE7497.1C2F53E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have, upon occasion, = put MMO in=20 with the oil in an old Triumph.
I=20 always add 2oz MMO per 5 gal gas at each fillup.  I also = add
Stabil (2 oz per 5 gal gas).  This = is done to=20 each of my bikes
with no ill effects.  Perhaps also = with no=20 benefit, but as you
said, it gives me a psychological=20 boost.
 
Ride Safely,
Rob Tayloe=20 <nukemoto@earthlink.net>
Columbus, Ohio
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From:=20 Ken Belfatto <ultraman@inil.com>
To: = KLR=20 List <klr650@lists.xmission.com&g= t;
Date:=20 Monday, March 22, 1999 6:56 PM
Subject: (klr650) NKLR = Mystery=20 Oil Additive

I know it's wacky, but I always put a shot glass = full of=20 Marvel Mystery Oil in the crank at every oil = change(1000mi).
Doesn't make a damn bit of difference, but It = provides a=20 big physiological boost.
Anyone = else?
- ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01BE7497.1C2F53E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:37:48 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Down-under tool storage >Actually I think if you adapted your idea to a hand-grab rail mount >situation, reduced the size to 4 in. dia by 6 in. long you could have a >container on each side of the saddle, just in front of the directional >signals that would be useful for carrying even more stuff without the >heft of saddle bags (or in addition to). In fact I've got some old tins >around that I may experiment with to see what kind of attachment would >work. > >Jeff >A2 But the idea is to get the weight down low and forward.... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:40:30 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: (klr650) Plain text Ken/ Rob and others...make sure to send messages in plain text only..you also have to make sure you do not send messages in the same format when replying...always plain text... Thanks, Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 18:22:57 -0700 From: "Execs" Subject: (klr650) remove my name from list This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BE7491.02B440C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable - ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BE7491.02B440C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BE7491.02B440C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 20:33:38 EST From: FTabor231@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Maiden voyage gone awry. In a message dated 3/22/99 1:26:32 PM Central Standard Time, ewinslow@mail.his.com writes: << I wonder if I'll be able to ride that thing back or home or if I'll have to haul it in a pick-up? >> Eric, I'd ride it home, just becareful about idleing at toll booths, maybe you can set up the idle a little higher. When you get home, if you want, I"de be glad to give you the directions on fixing your problem, frank ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 20:36:15 EST From: FTabor231@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) opinions on big gun pipe and FCR41 carb In a message dated 3/22/99 1:39:48 PM Central Standard Time, MRatta@ADE.com writes: << Was your original carb in need of replacement anyways? >> If you guys are pitching your stock carbs, please let me pay for freight to salvage them. frank ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 20:47:15 EST From: FTabor231@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Mystery Oil Additive In a message dated 3/22/99 5:58:29 PM Central Standard Time, ultraman@inil.com writes: << I know it's wacky, but I always put a shot glass full of Marvel Mystery Oil in the crank at every oil change(1000mi). Doesn't make a damn bit of difference, but It provides a big physiological boost. Anyone else? >> Ken, I think that stuff can clean the top end and lube up the ring grooves so I would try it in an engine that has been sitting for a while and in engines that don't use valve guide seals like some BMWs. .02 worth, frank ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 20:41:44 EST From: FTabor231@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR: Oil/cold starts In a message dated 3/22/99 4:15:22 PM Central Standard Time, sapoese@yahoo.com writes: << Go ahead, pour on the truth, how wrong am I, how much damage am I doing, burst my illusions. I shall survive. fred >> Fred, I don't know anyone that has damaged an engine from lubrication defeciency if they had oil in it, any kind of oil or any kind of additive. no oil is bad though. frank ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 18:55:41 -0800 From: "Dreas Nielsen" Subject: (klr650) RE: klr650-digest V2 #165 > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 07:45:33 -0600 (CST) > From: Dale Borgeson > Subject: Re: (klr650) GEAR LEVER POSITIONING > > > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 00:24:11 -0000 > > From: "Stevens, Greig (CALBBAY)" > > Subject: (klr650) GEAR LEVER POSITIONING > > > > my foot off the peg (especially if I am standing!). However, the current > > positioning of the gear lever necessitates that I have to lift my foot off > > the peg, change down gear(s) and reposition my foot back on the peg. > I have this same problem. I have very long legs and on all bikes I've > owned I lower the gear shift lever so that I can get positive shifts. > My solution is to always ride the KLR with boots that are taller in the > toe and I still almost have to lift my whole foot (leg) to get positive > shifts. I know that this solution sucks but it's all I've got. I'm 6'4", and have to lift my whole leg to upshift while riding two-up. The easy solution: I almost never ride two-up (except to give my daughters a ride down to the mailbox, which is almost a mile away). When sitting at the back of the seat--my normal position--I never have a problem shifting. I do wish the KLR was taller, though... Dreas Nielsen Issaquah, WA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 18:42:48 -0800 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (klr650) Maintenance & Warranty I guess they've made some changes then as my owners manual doesn't contain any of that. The supplement very clearly states "must", not "should". There is similar wording in the warranty supplement but they have removed the "OR someone equally competent..." section. Arne - "only in Canada eh? Pity..." - -----Original Message----- From: Cloudhid@aol.com To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Cc: alarsen@rapidnet.net Date: Monday, March 22, 1999 11:39 AM Subject: (klr650) Maintenance & Warranty >On 3/22/99, alarsen@rapidnet.net writes: snip > >>"Kawasaki Owner's Guide" specifically states the following: >>1. The owner must deliver, at his expense, the complete product to an >>authorized Kawasaki dealer for all periodic maintenance services > > > Arne this is reprinted from the warranty that came with my A10: >_____________ > "3. Owner's Obligations. (a) Owner must deliver the > motocycle to an authorized Kawasaki motorcycle dealer > *OR* equally qualified service facility for inspection, > maintenance services and adjustments. >--------------- > And this from the A10 owner's manual, page 3: >_____________ > "You should keep a maintenance record for your motorcycle. To > assist you in keeping this record, we have provided space on p. > 110 through 113 of this manual where an authorized Kawasaki > Dealer, *OR* someone equally competent, can record the > maintenance. You should also retain copies of maintenance > work orders, bills, etc., as verification of this maintenance." >---------------- > > It only says that you SHOULD, not that you MUST keep records. > Records might help prove your case in court, but proving that > we are 'equally competent' compared to that burned out, acid > casualty that the dealer generously calls a mechanic, now > that may be hard to do... > > Redondo Ron (wearing his oppositional disorder for all the world to see;) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 18:49:03 -0800 From: Tom Myers Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Hauling in truck >Diagonal method questions; > >1) Is the bike on the sidestand and if so is it better to hook up the >left handle bar strap to the left front corner of the truck box first? Sidestand is UP. It would probably dig a hole in your truckbed if down. >2) Does hooking up the strap to the right handle bar and back to the >right rear of the truck box cause the bike to sufficiently lock into the >corner without it slipping rearward or do you also use wheel chucks? No chocks. In my Nissan it goes into the front corner, then I put up the tailgate and slide the rear tire towards the center until it binds against the tailgate. Put it in gear so you can lift on the tire to slide it (not on the bike or it will never move). >3) Were you able to put the KLR in shorter box as in a Ranger SuperCab >using this method? I used to use the straight on method in an F150 and >always thought it would be a hassel getting it into the Ranger (have >since traded Ranger for a Civic Hatchback to accomodate a baby seat >better but thought about going back to a truck again next time). I've been dhauling only XR400 and XR600 which are 56.5 and 57" wheelbase. Don't know what the wheelbase of a KLR is but I'd be suprised if it was more than 2 or 3 inches longer. Anyone??? An "off-road" motorcycle is typically seven feet long. >4) In your opinion what works best for bike hauling...box liners or >mats or neither? (using diagonal method and not putting any anchor into >the truck bed) I've never had a truck nice enough to doll up. I haven't added any anchors, just the hooks that came on the truck (4 corners). >5) Any recommendations on ramps (I used to find a spot of ground I >could back the tailgate up to and just bring it across)? Obviously I've >ridden my bike alot more than hauled it. I may need to transport it if >I get the time to go on trips like MOAB when circumstances permit. I use a 2X8 with the "V-cut on the end method". Admittedly not very hi-tech. I prefer to ride to the trailhead too. Enjoy your trip. Hopefully I can find some time to get to Moab this year!! Tom +------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products tel (206) 323-2349 | 701 34th Ave fax (206) 325-6016 | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | webpage: http://www.cycoactive.com | e-mail: TomMyers@cycoactive.com +------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #169 ****************************