From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) remix+covers Date: 01 Apr 1999 02:39:12 EST In a message dated 31/03/99 14:08:27 GMT Daylight Time, open.mind@dial.pipex.com writes: << if they are not out cycling or watching television or whatever else ordinary people do >> ordinary ? do you think they could actually be ordinary. If so, a lot of people on this list would be very disappointed. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Kling Klang studio Date: 01 Apr 1999 11:49:26 +0200 Mike Morgan wrote: > my belief is >this... Kling klang is probably just a messy rarely used room full of old >synths and equipment. and it is probably ( like most Kraftwerk mythology ) >more interesting as a concept, fantasy and myth than it would be to see a >desolate old room. Surely you have seen the Kling Klang studio if you attended any Kw concert! DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wolfhardt.Wess@t-online.de Subject: (kw) Test - do not open ! Date: 01 Apr 1999 16:57:59 +0200 April, April ! Well, I told you... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wolfhardt.Wess@t-online.de Subject: (kw) Another Test - do not open ! Date: 01 Apr 1999 17:02:33 +0200 April, April ! Well, I told you... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Forthcoming Klaus Dinger releases Date: 01 Apr 1999 20:54:38 +0000 The new Captain Trip Records mail order catalogue announces two new Klaus Dinger releases. --- Quote --- CTCD-176/177 la! NEU?: Live in Tokyo Vol. 2 (2-CD) (1. May on Sale!) $ 32.00. CTCD-178 la! NEU?: Blue (1. May on Sale!) $ 20.00. (Recorded: '84-'86. As the "La Duesseldorf/5"!! Japan only!!) --- End of quote --- Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "00 Schneider - Jagd auf Nihil Baxter" on German TV Date: 01 Apr 1999 20:54:38 +0000 The movie "00 Schneider - Jagd auf Nihil Baxter" (featuring Kraftwerk ex-member Charlie Weiss in a minor role) will be shown on German TV (DF 1) at the following dates/times: 16.04.1999, 20:15-21:45. 20.04.1999, 15:30-17:00. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Technopop-83 Date: 01 Apr 1999 20:54:38 +0000 > From: "Morten Moen" > > >As it was discussed on this list about 50 times before, a promo LP > >for the "Techno Pop" album does not exist. > > And who declared you THE authority on Kraftwerk issues? Nobody declared me THE authority on Kraftwerk issues, so if you think that you can add any new aspects to the umpteen "Techno Pop" debates we had on this list before (available in the mailing list archives), please feel free to do so. > From: Jose Carlos Corchado > > The existence of an album is a fact. If an official promo LP for the "Techno Pop" > album would exist, someone in this list would have it or at least would have seen it, > and it never happened Exactly. > However, if some tapes were stolen, it could still be possible that a bootleg > of the "Techno Pop" album exists. Any information about this? Yes, one of those bootlegs is currently offered at Ebay. But it's just a "fake", with the two well-known demo tracks plus a couple of officially released tracks ("Tour de France", "The Telephone Call", "Sex Object (Spanish Version")). > From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> > > > >> So where does this record come from then? > > > >I don't know for sure, but there's some indication that these demos > >were stolen from one of the New York studios Kraftwerk used in > >1981/1982. > > why did R+F goto New York, or any other studio for that matter when > they have Kling Klang back home? any thoughts, Klaus? The saga goes that these tracks were recorded during the US part of Kraftwerk's 1981 world tour. It's just a rumour, but if it's true, it would be consistent with some of Ralf Huetter's interview quotes. Anyway, it's not unusual that Kraftwerk use other studios, as the album credits for "2", "Ralf & Florian", "TEE", "Die Mensch-Maschine" and "Electric Cafe" tell us. > From: "Mans Sjostrand" > > Well, they wanted to incorporate the new devolpments in music > technology, midi, sampling and other things. As Karl Bartos later > said in interviews; they were quite lost in this field. Kling Klang > a little bit out of date. Acording to Tim Barrs book they choosed a > studio called "The Power Station"(!), Klaus, you have probobly > something to add ;-) Unfortunately not. ;-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) New Kraftwerk Counterfeit 12"es? Date: 01 Apr 1999 22:39:03 +0000 I was told about the following items, which may be either second editions or (more likely) illegal counterfeits of the "KLANGDJ" 12"es from 1997: 1. "Trans Europe Express" (KLANGDJ 101) 2. "Numbers" (KLANGDJ 102) These records come without a picture sleeve, and the matrix numbers are "handwritten", while the previously known versions had picture sleeves and "printed" matrix numbers. The labels seem to be identical to the labels of the original edition, but the "TEE" one is mislabeled, having the A side label on both sides. Any ideas whether these items are reprints or counterfeits? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) FAQ Date: 01 Apr 1999 12:10:59 +0100 Hi all, I won't have email access for the next week or so, and in order to help prevent my mailbox overflowing I'm unsubscribing from the Kraftwerk list temporarily. So if anyone has anything which they want to bring to my attention, relating to the FAQ list or whatever, please email me direct: K.G.Busby@bham.ac.uk. Thank you. I'm sorry that the FAQ hasn't been updated very recently, but upgrades are being prepared. Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Armin.Poecker@t-online.de (Armin Poecker) Subject: (kw) EMC 203 & Techno Pop Date: 01 Apr 1999 20:24:04 +0200 > Oh, I have an LP: Autobahn. By EMI. Number EMC203. With a drawn-on > dashboard. I think it's Australian. It bears no mention of a reprint. It is a reprint from the early eighties. There is a UK press report from 1983 claiming that EMI would release the Autobahn album together with 'Technopop'. As this didn't happen, EMI didn't issue Autobahn in most countries until 1985. It was reissued in Australia and New Zealand (same catalogue number for both countries) earlier - so it was issued probably in 1983. On the 1985 issues, the dashboard and 'car seat' back cover were gone. This leads me to the Technopop issue... 1.) the known tracks 'Techno Pop' and 'Sex Object' do not sound quite like 'Tour De France' as issued in 1983. So, if 'TDF' defines Kraftwerk's state of the art in 1983, these inferior tracks are most probably demos. They would have sounded quite odd next to the released version of 'TDF'. 2.) EMI UK did assign a catalogue number for Techno Pop, that's true. So did EMI Germany. EMI Germany did also release ads for the album, showing catalogue numbers for LP and Cassette Tape releases. Both catalogue numbers do not prove the existence of anything at all - the above mentioned 'Autobahn' reissue from the UK does also not exist. 3.) If the vinyl pressing process for this album should have taken place, there would be copies today. There should have been acetates, then test pressings (although not meant for the public, these items always leak out to collectors!) from several EMI territories. Two months before the release date, promos would have been sent out - but there's not one review available. 4.) To all those people who claim 'they know one who saw it': prove it. As long as there's no proof, it does not exist by default. Bye, Gunther # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Stann Subject: (kw) Coincidence? Date: 01 Apr 1999 14:52:17 -0600 Elvis is dead - Kraftwerk has put out no new records in eons. Hmmm... Okay, one more turn of the handle to get just a little more blood out of this turnip. The turnip is dead. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Morgan" Subject: (kw) Don werk Date: 02 Apr 1999 09:19:23 +0100 glad so many of you liked the don werk track... Somewhere i have several other tracks on some DJ only CD's that use a lot of kraftwerk samples etc. the razormaid remix of "the model" by the dance robots had a very good 2 min intro of samples from electric cafe over a simple dance beat. now where is that......( i'll check through my cd's when i get back from Dusseldorf) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Stann" Subject: Re: (kw) news on http://home.worldnet.fr/bonald/audio/mp3.htm Date: 02 Apr 1999 08:34:40 -0600 > >Please note: this is the last time I will announce updates to my MP3 page on the Kraftwerk mailing list. >This is because >1. I now put also other stuff to my page, and >2. Some people have asked me to stop E-mailing the KW list. Some people have asked you to stop?!?! Is this list for discussion of Kraftwerk? Is Kraftwerk music not directly related to Kraftwerk? Can you find this stuff in a music store?!!?? HELOOOOOO! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Electropop Essentials" (was: Herr Automat's periodical ramblin Date: 02 Apr 1999 18:53:50 +0000 > Kraftwerk have been included in a compilation CD entitled > "Electropop Essentials" published by MCA. The Kraftwerk track is "Showroom Dummies". Could somebody please tell me if this is the album version or the single edit of this track? Thanks in advance, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lemmens Geert Subject: (kw) autobahn dashboard Date: 02 Apr 1999 09:12:29 -0800 (PST) I would like to have some more information about the Autobahn LP with a dashboardcover. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "G. Benedikt Rochow" Subject: Re: (kw) autobahn dashboard Date: 02 Apr 1999 13:00:49 -0500 (EST) > I would like to have some more information about the Autobahn LP with a > dashboardcover. I asked about this a while ago; somebody said he'd put up a scan of the cover, but it never happened, but some months ago, and again recently, I cam across a sit that had a smallish picture of it. I again lost that link, but AFAIR, it shows the fout faces on a dash-mount rearview mirror; the dashboard is drawn somewhat generically, but the hood/fenders of the car is fairly clearly a 'Ponton' Mercedes (late 50s) or a 300S from that period; combined with the distinctive diesel engine sounds in the song, I conclude with amusement that it's something very close to my parents' black '59 180D. (This is based on assuming that there's a connection between the cover and the song; also, a long time ago, somebody told me that (at some public appearance, I take it) they used exactly such a car. Of course it could be that the cover just shows a generic 300S-style triangle-hood-with-semidetached- fenders shape, while the sound is of a small lorry, but it seriously doubt it. Even the leisurely acceleration, together with the long time needed for shifting to second gear with the column-mounted shifter, fits.) Well, here's a URL: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/2648/kw/ge7auto.jpg (the .de single cover, based on the album picture) The mirror cleverly covers the star :) -gbr # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JT Subject: (kw) A-100 Demo Clips Date: 02 Apr 1999 19:10:13 -0500 Hello. For those that are interested, I've just posted a selection of short MP3 clips from the Doepfer A-100 Modular demonstration CD. The musical production was done by Anreas Merz at Weltklang. The CD (which is no longer available from Doepfer) and permission to post the audio in MP3 format was provided courtesy of Doug at Enport (Doepfer USA). http://efofex.simplenet.com/noise/backstudio/a100 If you're into analog modular synthesis, you will likely enjoy what you hear. Doepfer: http://www.doepfer.com Enport: http://www.doepferusa.com Kindest regards, -John ______________________________ the electronic music of efofex http://efofex.simplenet.com new album track preview! http://efofex.simplenet.com/unreleased.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Storey" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk special on JJJ Date: 03 Apr 1999 14:04:43 -0500 Is anyone on this KW mailing list from Australia that got to speak on the KW special (J Files)? Chris jmjarre@dynamite.com.au # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) RE: KOSOVO Date: 03 Apr 1999 20:17:19 -0800 No way! Krafterk are only anti-war for the sheer fact that it's not chic to be pro. They'd be dancing amid the beauty of it all! The continual "ratta-tat" of automatic weaponry being produced by the fabulous human survival instinct enabling people to do what they have to do... kill each other. But not without introducing a fantastic ballet of coordination, stratagy and endurance. A visual feast of hostility and suffering. Tears streaming down the faces of the little children hiding amid the twisted metal refuse, dust and small rocks pelting them sharply as they cry. The percussive gait of the military personnel as they secure a target. The mechanical approach of modern warfare - man/machine. MC3P0 Oh, if anyone is at all interested. I have finished three pieces for my Arrakis Arrakis thingie. It's not K, but... who else is? http://members.xoom.com/MC3P0/ kingrollo@iname.com wrote: << This list sees input from people across the world. I am very interested in hearing your opinions about the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia. >> >I think you should keep this off topic off the list. If you want to y, do it off the list, please. >I think that's exceedingly insensitive, especially as I'm sure Kraftwerk >are anti-war like the rest of us. However, it is true that it should only >be touched on lightly. There could probably be much heated debate about >what is on and off topic, with Kraftwerk up to very little and with the >Automat's periodical ramblings... >In answer to the original question, though, it's a very difficult question >to answer, but Blair & Clinton (the latter especially) should both realise >that it is very difficult to justify bombing at the best of times. (Or >should I say the worst?) >--rollo-- >(just emerging from a nasty essay, so bound to be pretty hacked off) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Morgan" Subject: (kw) kraftwerk ordinary people ? Date: 04 Apr 1999 16:18:06 +0100 > > ordinary ? do you think they could actually be ordinary. If so, a lot of > people on this list would be very disappointed. > For sure, Kraftwerk are ordinary people or we are all extra-ordinary. They are in my mind talented and gifted as other most other people in different ways. I am sure that when the make up if off and the synths are switched off there is nothing more they would like to be than ordinary. The idea that they might wear their man machine outfits complete with red lipstick or LED suits as they do their grocery shopping or as they as they put their evening food in the microwave would be highly amusing even to them. PS ... I am posting this email from Dusseldorf !!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Adam Beslove" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk as war heds? We will never know. Date: 04 Apr 1999 07:17:43 -0800 This guy doesn't have a clue. He has clearly been sold on the romance of war just as he's been sold on the glamour of Tommy jeans and Nike sportsware. Hey bud, how does it feel to be emotionally duped? >No way! Krafterk are only anti-war for the sheer >fact that it's not chic to be pro. They'd be dancing >amid the beauty of it all! The continual "ratta-tat" >of automatic weaponry being produced by the >fabulous human survival instinct enabling people to >do what they have to do... kill each other. But not >without introducing a fantastic ballet of >coordination, stratagy and endurance. A visual feast >of hostility and suffering. >Tears streaming down the faces of the little children >hiding amid the twisted metal refuse, dust and small >rocks pelting them sharply as they cry. The >percussive gait of the military personnel as they >secure a target. The mechanical approach of modern >warfare - man/machine. >MC3P0 >Oh, if anyone is at all interested. I have finished >three pieces for my Arrakis Arrakis thingie. It's >not K, but... who else is? >http://members.xoom.com/MC3P0/ >kingrollo@iname.com wrote: --Adam Beslove HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tanger" Subject: (kw) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 22:36:48 +0200 Date: 04 Apr 1999 14:36:27 -0600 hey everyone i noticed some talk as to the actual location of kling klang. does anyone know the actual street address? thnx tadream ----------------- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ----------------- Szybka w sciaganiu, animowana, interaktywna, z muzyka i efektami dzwiekowymi.... Zobacz jak moze wygladac strona WWW: http://www.webdesign.pl/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk as war heds? We will never know. Date: 04 Apr 1999 16:45:15 -0700 That's funny, sarcasm vs. sarcasm... It was a bit dry, sorry for the confusion. And BTW - no, I'm not an advocate of corporate americana. The joke sits where Kraftwerk combine the essence of human stoik nature and machines pliant, emotionless brute force. The combination being rather volitile. Yugoslovia being the latest chatter. MC3P0 Adam Beslove wrote: > > This guy doesn't have a clue. He has clearly been sold on the romance of war just as he's been sold on the glamour of Tommy jeans and Nike sportsware. > Hey bud, how does it feel to be emotionally duped? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk ordinary people ? Date: 04 Apr 1999 16:59:39 -0700 Funny thing is, there are people who would dress up rather extravagently for those mudane tasks. In the upcoming Star Trek Trekkies movie, there is actually a guy who built himself a Captain Christopher Pike wheelchair - and goes grocery shopping in it! MC3P0 Mike Morgan wrote: > For sure, Kraftwerk are ordinary people or we are all extra-ordinary. They > are in my mind talented and gifted as other most other people in different > ways. > I am sure that when the make up if off and the synths are switched off there > is nothing more they would like to be than ordinary. The idea that they > might wear their man machine outfits complete with red lipstick or LED suits > as they do their grocery shopping or as they as they put their evening food > in the microwave would be highly amusing even to them. > > PS ... I am posting this email from Dusseldorf !!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ilych@aol.com Subject: (kw) Autobahn w/ dashboard Date: 04 Apr 1999 22:35:40 EDT My brother just purchased an old Autobahn LP with the dashboard clearly in view on the bottom of the album cover. On the dashboard, there is a small rear-view mirror with the four guys in the reflection on the mirror. The record label designation in the upper-right hand corner says Vertigo, VEL-2003. I have Autobahn on compact disc, and it's EMI. What the hell, then, is Vertigo? Also, on the record itself, it says, 'promotion copy: not for sale.' Can somebody tell me about this record? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) Autobahn w/ dashboard Date: 05 Apr 1999 01:32:55 +0000 i have the same record. as i say this i could be mistaken so if someone (perhaps Mr. Zaepke) wishes to correct me, please do. the record is an original printing from 1974. AFAIK (i could be wrong) Vertigo is a division of Phillips record label which is the label on to which KW were signed at the time. and the VEL-2003 is the catalog number for the original American pressing of the album. i also have the 1985 Warner Brothers reissue of Autobahn on LP and the EMI CD you mentioned. the interesting thing about this record is that there is a misprint on side two of the LP. the time length of "Mitternacht" is given as 4:40, when in fact if you time the song it is exactly 1 minute less -- 3:40. i think it's just a misprint because the other releases of the album have 3:40 as the time and the song is not different in any way. about the cover: now the long haired hippie guy is Klaus Roeder. since he was no longer in the band at the time of reissue of the Autobahn LP KW probably decided not to use the origianl artwork and picture on the reissue LP sleeve. this is my assumption by the way, not a fact. it's sort of interesting that they would do that, give Roeder less credit on reissue than on original. i don't think that this LP is terribly rare (i got mine in Chicago for $4), but since yours is a promo copy it might be more rarer, but probably not much more valuable. also, if you look just to the left of the steering wheel on the dashboard you see a picture of Emil Schult. lenny g Ilych@aol.com wrote: > >My brother just purchased an old Autobahn LP with the dashboard clearly in >view on the bottom of the album cover. On the dashboard, there is a small >rear-view mirror with the four guys in the reflection on the mirror. >The record label designation in the upper-right hand corner says Vertigo, >VEL-2003. I have Autobahn on compact disc, and it's EMI. What the hell, then, >is Vertigo? Also, on the record itself, it says, 'promotion copy: not for >sale.' Can somebody tell me about this record? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Schefflan Subject: Re: (kw) Autobahn w/ dashboard Date: 05 Apr 1999 14:52:45 -0400 >>> I have Autobahn on compact disc, and it's EMI. What the hell, then, is Vertigo? <<< Vertigo is a PolyGram (RIP, now Universal) label. In recent years, it was a part of their Mercury label, focusing on hard rock. In recent years, Vertigo issued albums from LA Guns and other similar bands. I think a site is somewhere, which can be accessed from www.polygram.com. Click on the PolyGram button when the Universal Music Group page loads. Peace. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tanger" Subject: (kw) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:00:22 +0200 Date: 05 Apr 1999 02:00:11 -0600 does anyone know where i can download mp3 with Turn Down The Silence by The Mobile Homes? thnx ----------------- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ----------------- Szybka w sciaganiu, animowana, interaktywna, z muzyka i efektami dzwiekowymi.... Zobacz jak moze wygladac strona WWW: http://www.webdesign.pl/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Livetape Bremen, 25.06.1971 ?? Date: 05 Apr 1999 12:45:25 +0000 The following set of livetapes has been witnesssed at the usual bootleg stands at Camden Market, London: "Kraftwerk: Tokyo Akasaka Blitz Japan 3.6.98 / Bremen 25.6.71", 2 C-90 tapes Is it right to assume that the Bremen recording is in fact Koeln, 12.06.1971 (also falsely known as Bremen, 21.06.1971)? Is somebody able to confirm? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Mobile Homes MP3's (was: Re: (kw) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:00:22 Date: 05 Apr 1999 12:45:25 +0000 > does anyone know where i can download mp3 with Turn Down The Silence by The > Mobile Homes? http://hem.passagen.se/nik95maj/mobile/mobile.htm Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tg97 Subject: (kw) Vinyl Stores Date: 05 Apr 1999 09:38:49 -0300 Well, not so related with KW, but... I will fly to Miami next Sunday. It would be great if somebody could help me to find some good vinyl, singles or even bootlegs stores in that city. Thanks in advance peace Nicolau http://members.xoom.com/kraftworld/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bill Dobiesz" Subject: Fw: Mobile Homes MP3's (was: Re: (kw) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:00:22 Date: 06 Apr 1999 01:45:20 -0400 > does anyone know where i can download mp3 with Turn Down The Silence by The > Mobile Homes? http://hem.passagen.se/nik95maj/mobile/mobile.htm Klaus Zaepke OK, I admit, curiousity got the best of me, hearing so much talk about Mobile Homes here, I went to this website and downloaded a couple of their .MP3s. Sounds like what we would have called "New Wave" back in the early 80's. Now, could someone remind me what significance this group has with KW? Myself, I didn't note similarities, influences, sampling, etc...they seem to be about as similar to KW as The Who is to KW...not much. Huggy Bear (always a suprise) np: Billy Ward & The Dominoes - Pedal Pushin' Papa # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Future Music 26 Date: 06 Apr 1999 15:31:46 +0200 On the album "Out Loud" (R&S / Sony Japan) by Boom Boom Satellites is included a song called "Limbo" which has Kraftwerk reminiscences. According to Future Music (Spanish edition, number 26, April 1999) Moa (from Iceland) is able to connect influences of Portishead, Herbie Hancock, Air, Kraftwerk and 4Hero. In the article of the same magazine, dedicated to analyze the Quasimidi Polymorph, it is said: "Several patterns of the Polymorph have been made by somebody who knows the Kraftwerk sequences by heart; it could have been an obsessed fan, although more surely he is not other than Ralf Huetter" (...) "In general, some references to certain German band exceed." DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TiMeZeRo Subject: (kw) Vor uns Metropolis! Date: 04 Apr 1999 16:05:38 +0200 Does anybody have the cd "Vor uns metropolis" with kraftwerk? I found it in a littel cd store called "MH records" in Gotenburg/Sweden. I havvent seen it on the offical album realeses by kraftwerk. And it is not in the other cd stores her in GBG. I also find the old live cd with songs from kw1. It is only in 250copies... But it was a promotion cd so i didnt brought it. Has anyone Vor uns metropolis? Daniel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E5ns=20Sj=F6strand?= Subject: Re: Fw: Mobile Homes MP3's (was: Re: (kw) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:00:22 Date: 06 Apr 1999 16:10:46 +0200 Bill Dobiesz wrote: > > > OK, I admit, curiousity got the best of me, hearing so much talk about > Mobile Homes here, I went to this website and downloaded a couple of th= eir > .MP3s. Sounds like what we would have called "New Wave" back in the ea= rly > 80's. > > Now, could someone remind me what significance this group has with KW? > Myself, I didn't note similarities, influences, sampling, etc...they se= em to > be about as similar to KW as The Who is to KW...not much. The only diffrence is that The Who never hired Karl Bartos as a producer:= -) - M=E5ns Sj=F6strand # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bill Dobiesz" Subject: Fw: Fw: Mobile Homes MP3's (was: Re: (kw) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:00:22 Date: 06 Apr 1999 10:37:31 -0400 >The only diffrence is that The Who never hired Karl Bartos as a producer:-) I do like the group...it just wasn't what I expected. Huggy Bear (expect the unexpected) np: Mobile Homes - Hoping For Rain # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TiMeZeRo Subject: (kw) Bootlegs store on the net? Date: 04 Apr 1999 18:26:04 +0200 Does anyone know a bootleg store on the net, with kw cds? Any way... Why hasent kraftwerk published the luton97 songs... Grr... I guess we all waiting for something called "kraftwerk 2000" Daniel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) infobahn was: Bootlegs store on the net? Date: 06 Apr 1999 12:42:43 +0000 At 06:26 PM 4/4/99 +0200, you wrote: I guess we all waiting for something called "kraftwerk 2000" > >Daniel at this rate, why not Kraftwerk 2001 or 2010, or 10000. someone before mentioned that KW should pick the internet as it's theme for the next album, i thought about it: We are surfing, surfing, surfing on the infobahn Before us is a huge computer The monitor screen is shining in a glittering stream The keyboard has a ribbon cable The video card can support up to 16 million colors Now we turn on the MP3 player And spilling from the surround sound speaker system is "We are surfing on the infobahn" has a ring to it, don't it? can someone translate that into german, if it's not too much bother. lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Stann Subject: RE: (kw) Bootlegs store on the net? Date: 06 Apr 1999 12:59:35 -0500 Any way... Why hasent kraftwerk published the luton97 songs... Grr... I guess we all waiting for something called "kraftwerk 2000" [Chris Stann] Good question. Correct me if I'm wrong, but KW has not = released any new (non-remix) material for about 12 years. They also = said "everything that needed to be said, has been said" (I think that's = pretty close). =20 Hate to be the pessimist, but It does not sound like we'll see a new = Kraftwerk release. Do you think Kraftwerk has what it takes to compete = with the contemporary "techno"? Can they capture and inspire 12 and 14 = year olds today the way they did in 1980? And if they do, are we, the = die-hard KW fanatics, going to like new Kraftwerk songs? Are we going = to quickly dismiss them as too different and not true to the traditional = KW sound - this has happened already to the unnamed songs from the = Tribal Gathering. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nitrous Subject: Re: (kw) infobahn was: Bootlegs store on the net? Date: 06 Apr 1999 14:12:28 -0400 47 wrote: > can someone translate that into german, if it's not too much bother. I ran it through the translator on the web. :) **time-out** wir sein surfing, surfing, surfing auf d infobahn vor uns sein ein sehr groß Computer d Monitor Bildschirm sein shining in ein glittering Strom d Tastatur haben ein Farbband Kabel d Bildschirm Karte können unterstützen bis 16 Million Farbe jetzt wir drehen auf d MP3 Spieler und überlaufen d umgeben Ton Lautsprecher System sein " wir sein surfing auf d infobahn " haben ein Ring zu es, nicht es? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: (kw) another bootleg. Date: 06 Apr 1999 14:38:21 Hi folks. Just in case it hasn't already been mentioned here, I came across another Kraftwerk bootleg CD of DJ remixes, and it's the sequel to 'Ultra Rare Trax', appropriately titled 'Ultra Rare Trax 2'. Its packaging is largely the same format as its predecessor volume, and this time the front cover features the photo of KW sitting around the checkered tablecloth from the inner sleeve of the 'Trans Europe Express' album. I don't have a copy of the track listing with me here, but as a point of interest, it does contain the 1983 discarded demo version of the song "Technopop" which was intended to be released on the album of the same name. Apart from that track, it's just a collection of DJ remixes of KW songs like "Electric Cafe", "The Robots", etc. Just wanted to let you all know that it's out there. Scott nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: (kw) another bootleg. Date: 06 Apr 1999 14:38:21 Hi folks. Just in case it hasn't already been mentioned here, I came across another Kraftwerk bootleg CD of DJ remixes, and it's the sequel to 'Ultra Rare Trax', appropriately titled 'Ultra Rare Trax 2'. Its packaging is largely the same format as its predecessor volume, and this time the front cover features the photo of KW sitting around the checkered tablecloth from the inner sleeve of the 'Trans Europe Express' album. I don't have a copy of the track listing with me here, but as a point of interest, it does contain the 1983 discarded demo version of the song "Technopop" which was intended to be released on the album of the same name. Apart from that track, it's just a collection of DJ remixes of KW songs like "Electric Cafe", "The Robots", etc. Just wanted to let you all know that it's out there. Scott nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: thomas m weibrecht Subject: Re: (kw) Vor uns Metropolis! Date: 06 Apr 1999 15:46:57 -0400 On Sun, 04 Apr 1999 16:05:38 +0200 TiMeZeRo writes: > >Does anybody have the cd "Vor uns metropolis" >with kraftwerk? I found it in a littel cd >store called "MH records" in Gotenburg/Sweden. >I havvent seen it on the offical album realeses >by kraftwerk. And it is not in the other cd >stores her in GBG. I also find the old live cd >with songs from kw1. It is only in 250copies... >But it was a promotion cd so i didnt brought it. > >Has anyone Vor uns metropolis? > yes...its a boot...albeit a very professional one... tom w np: reich remixed ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lrk@ik2000.se Date: 06 Apr 1999 20:50:00 +0000 I bought some promotion 7"s this weekend, anyone knows if they're rare or worth something? Thnxs! "Demo record not for sale" Mfd in UK, Capitol, CLX 104 A 45 Side A Showroom dummies (edited version) Side B Europe Endless (edited version) "Promotion not for sale" USA, Warner Bros, 7-29342, BAA 2000V1S Tour de France (French version) edit 3:50 Flip side Tour de France (Remix by Kevorkian) edit 3:50 I also noticed that on one 12" (The telephone call) the words "Master disc" were "typed" (not handwritten) on the vinyl. Is this unusual or just ordinary vinyl procedure?! Pardon my ignorance, I'm quite new to the vinyl business... ///\/\arcus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) RE: Mobile Homes & Disco 2000 Date: 07 Apr 1999 15:23:46 +0200 Bill Dobiesz wrote: >Now, could someone remind me what significance this group has with KW? >Myself, I didn't note similarities, influences, sampling, etc...they seem >to be about as similar to KW as The Who is to KW...not much. The cover of the "Test" (Hawk Records, 1992) LP (their first album which imho is really really bad) by Mobile Homes features a similar artwork to the "Showroom Dummies" CDM by KRAFTWERK, edited by the label of Los Angeles, Cleopatra/CEMA. Also Karl Bartos has collaborated in this record, and Elektric Music produced the single "Turn Of The Silence". Karl Bartos also produced the second album of the Swedish band. The Spanish magazine Disco 2000 features an article entitled "Retrofuturismo", a summary (and analysis) of the events of 1998. Kraftwerk are described as moderate, and it's said: "Their concert at Sonar was the social event of the year. Kraftwerk didn't dissapoint, giving a magnificient, colourist, moderate and spectacular show, based on hits of immaculate electro-pop like 'Tour de France' or 'The Model'". Kraftwerk also appears in the number one as the best international concert. DER AUTOMAT If the music had a Periodic Table of the Elements, Kraftwerk would be a transuranid element. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "MuSiK" Subject: RE: (kw) Bootlegs store on the net? ( NEW ALBUM reply ) Date: 07 Apr 1999 15:42:38 +0200 I remember you that one of Tribal Gath songs is named "Luton Hoo", and Ralph said in one interview from Rio a new album will come before the next millenium. MuSIK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Stann Subject: RE: (kw) Bootlegs store on the net? ( NEW ALBUM reply ) Date: 07 Apr 1999 08:56:12 -0500 The 21st century starts on Jan 1st, 2001. So, they have a year and eight months. -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 8:43 AM I remember you that one of Tribal Gath songs is named "Luton Hoo", and Ralph said in one interview from Rio a new album will come before the next millenium. MuSIK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wolfhardt.Wess@t-online.de Subject: (kw) Happy Birthday Florian ! Date: 07 Apr 1999 17:24:02 +0200 Happy Birthday Florian ! Alle Gute zum Geburtstag. Das wünsche ich Dir von ganzem Herzen. Es gruesst Dich ein langjaehriger Fan Gunnar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Stann Subject: RE: (kw) Happy Birthday Florian ! Date: 07 Apr 1999 11:05:24 -0500 Yeah! Happy Birthday! Now get back to work on your next release. -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 10:24 AM Happy Birthday Florian ! Alle Gute zum Geburtstag. Das w=FCnsche ich Dir von ganzem Herzen. Es gruesst Dich ein langjaehriger Fan Gunnar =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original = sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: = http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Pitt" Subject: (kw) Re: infobahn was: Bootlegs store on the net? Date: 07 Apr 1999 17:54:42 +0100 > lenny g did scribe.... > > >>at this rate, why not Kraftwerk 2001 or 2010, or 10000. someone before > >>mentioned that KW should pick the internet as it's theme for the next > >>album, Of course Kraftwerk already foretold of the rise of pornography on the 'net with their seminal 1981 track ' Tits more fun to Compute '. :)8 Mike. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Schefflan Subject: (kw) KW WB vinyl Date: 07 Apr 1999 14:27:27 -0400 >>> I also noticed that on one 12" (The telephone call) the words "Master disc" were "typed" (not handwritten) on the vinyl. Is this unusual or just ordinary vinyl procedure?! <<< In the US, sometimes the place where the vinyl was pressed and mastered winds up in the lead-out groove. This is not unusual. If you see vinyl that was mastered by Herb Powers Jr. at Frankford Wayne (from the '80s), for example, look for Herb's trademark smiley face and "Herbie Jr." legend. Peace. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Schefflan Subject: Re: (kw) Future Music 26 (off-topic) Date: 07 Apr 1999 14:19:40 -0400 >>> According to Future Music (Spanish edition, number 26, April 1999) Moa (from Iceland) is able to connect influences of Portishead, Herbie Hancock, Air, Kraftwerk and 4Hero. <<< Her album's available on Tommy Boy/WB in the US. However, have you heard her voice? It's AWFUL! She needs oxygen! Lawd ha'mercy! :-) Peace. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Compute" Subject: (kw) DJ Compute Remixes Date: 08 Apr 1999 00:45:29 GMT Hi Everybody! I am down to zero messages in my in-box and now I can start following the list once again. I've been extremely busy with a lot of other projects, and I hadn't checked my mail from the list since February. I will eventually update my site, but it still may take a while. I have a few new home-grown Kraftwerk remixes however. If there is anybody out there who has room on their server to store some of my MP3's I will welcome you to display them on your Kraftwerk page with a link back to me. Just let me know and I'll send them to you somehow. Thanks, DJ Compute ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Compute" Subject: (kw) DJ Compute Remixes Date: 08 Apr 1999 00:45:43 GMT Hi Everybody! I am down to zero messages in my in-box and now I can start following the list once again. I've been extremely busy with a lot of other projects, and I hadn't checked my mail from the list since February. I will eventually update my site, but it still may take a while. I have a few new home-grown Kraftwerk remixes however. If there is anybody out there who has room on their server to store some of my MP3's I will welcome you to display them on your Kraftwerk page with a link back to me. Just let me know and I'll send them to you somehow. Thanks, DJ Compute Dear Dezza: He has all of the answers!! http://www.toptown.com/hp/archives/nonsense/dezza/index.htm ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "KL" Subject: (kw) Date: 07 Apr 1999 21:34:31 -0500 > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. 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--MS_Mac_OE_3006365671_144200_MIME_Part-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pawel Kalinowski" Subject: (kw) Urgent: Contact to owners of Radioaktivitaet/The Voice of Energy Date: 08 Apr 1999 10:11:49 +0200 Hi! I was not active on the list for years, but I need your help desperatively and ASAP. My company is developing PC FPP game and I need to check very quickly where I could license one track from Radioactivity (The Voice of Energy to be exact) - noone I called helped me so kraftwerk@xmission.com is my (almost) last chance. Thanks in advance! Best Regards, Pawel Kalinowski Project Manager / Mirage Media http://www.mortyr.com/ http://www.mortyr.net/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: (kw) I feel like a stalker... Date: 08 Apr 1999 08:05:17 PDT Hi Everybody, I'm just one of the werkers who doesn't usually have much to say to everyone here, you all seem far more knowledgable than I in the Kraftwerk scheme of things!... But I' thought I'd report back some details of the little adventure I had in Deusseldorf with a freind. We were on our way to Amsterdam, and realised the train stopped at Deusseldorf, so we booked hotel, went for a marvellous meal, bougght some beers and sat outside KlingKlang until 2 in the morning. Being the hopeful individual that I am, I expected them to pop their heads round the door and join in our chorus of 'The Model' and 'Electric Cafe', but they didn't. Surprise! During the evening I would occasionally look through some windows downstairs to see what I could see, possibly members! but no. A rather mellow relaxation room with a pair of rather inviting looking sofas, a large tv upon which stood a lava lamp and an african figure. Lichenstein artwork covered the wall in the subdued green lighting, and a rack of simmering audio equipment was stacked next to the tv. I felt as if I had stepped just that little bit closer to them. While we sat and sung, a Mercedes drove through the door in the middle, and a chap got out to go next door. I asked him, in my drunken stupor, if he realised Kraftwerk were working next door, and he said 'who?'. He is a country keyboardist. After a while I started getting paranoid thinking they might call the police to get rid of us, so we left. I will never forget that night. And I am sorry if Florian and Ralf think I am bit mad for hanging around them like groupies, but if they ever need a twelve string guitarist....well.....they never will. Well, let's all wait patiently until the album appears. And, as I expect it to be the last one, I will treasure it forever, and I promise not to hang around outside their secret hiding place anymore. Sorry. backto lerking... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark reed Subject: (kw) broken machine? Date: 05 Apr 1999 19:27:48 +0100 In message <19990408150518.30441.qmail@hotmail.com>, Matthew Large > >Well, let's all wait patiently until the album appears. And, as I >expect it to be the last one, I will treasure it forever, and I >promise not to hang around outside their secret hiding place anymore. I don't even think it'll be released... I'll believe it when I see it.. I reckon the new stuff is Orbital out-takes... The robots have seized control of the broken man machine... the restraining bolt on Fritz has broken... R+F are working out someway to downlaod their memory so they can auto-generate songs whilst they are down the pub or cycling... they abandoned the album because it was recorded telepathically.. they have found one snare drum sound they like in 12 years.. they are lazy chuffers.. music full stop more like. I've had enough of waiting patiently lets kling klang their heads together. -- mark reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TiMeZeRo Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk = Arbeiten:works:oeuvres Date: 06 Apr 1999 20:19:04 +0200 Kraftwerk, Arbeiten:works:oeuvres Does any one knows anything about this album? It appers on http://www.frontstage.com/ When you searching for kraftwerk. Daniel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk = Arbeiten:works:oeuvres Date: 09 Apr 1999 09:55:05 +0200 (CET) On Tue, 06 Apr 1999 20:19:04 +0200, TiMeZeRo wrote: > >Kraftwerk, Arbeiten:works:oeuvres >Does any one knows anything about this album? It seems it is 2CD compilation, covering tracks from Tone Float to Electric Cafe. I don't know more about it, it is too expensive for me to buy it just to see what's on it. I guess for most of us who have all the LP's , it doesn't have any interest. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) kling and klang Date: 09 Apr 1999 03:51:15 +0000 OK, i know that this is rather stupid and has nothing to do with KW, so don't flame me and don't flame me for asking not to flame me, but as i was awake at 6 in the morning a day ago, i was watching HBO and a rather interesting cartoon came on. ok, so it wasn't interesting, but it was the best thing on at 6 am. it was a new version of Pippi Longstocking. anyway there were two characters in the show whose names were Kling and Klang, respectivally. both were working as prison guards. well, thanks for not flaming me and just to piss you all off a little, so which one came first: KlingKlang or Pippi Longstocking? i know, who gives a shit!!! laters, lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lars Nellemann Subject: Re: (kw) kling and klang Date: 09 Apr 1999 11:09:14 +0200 > so which one came first: >KlingKlang or Pippi Longstocking? i know, who gives a shit!!! Pippi was around 30 years ago, when I was a kid, maybe even earlier, so she probably beat KW on that. Lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) kling and klang Date: 09 Apr 1999 04:39:01 isn't Kling Klang sort of like Boing Boom Tschuck (types of sounds, not really words) so do you think R+F named Kling Klang after Kling and Klang from Pippi L. who wrote that book anyway? i remember the story from when i was a kid too, but not too well. thanks, lenny g At 11:09 AM 4/9/99 +0200, you wrote: > >> so which one came first: >>KlingKlang or Pippi Longstocking? i know, who gives a shit!!! > >Pippi was around 30 years ago, when I was a kid, maybe even earlier, >so she probably beat KW on that. > >Lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "MuSiK" Subject: RE: (kw) kling and klang Date: 09 Apr 1999 11:44:42 +0200 I think is more like Yin-Yang in sound version. MuSiK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: timezero@home.se Subject: (kw) Siting here... as a showroom dummie Date: 09 Apr 1999 11:59:29 +0200 (CEST) Im siting with a t3 line and trying to enter some kraftwerk ftps I have, but all of them are down. I want some pages/ftps with videos/pictures/mp3s with kraftwerk. Im looking specily for Metropolis video and mp3s from tonefloat and mpeg files from conserts. the ftp://kraftwerk:klingklang@ftp.dante.eti.br dosent have the code klingklang anymore, is it down? Help me... Fast "Siting here... as a showroom dummie" Daniel _________________________________________________________ En adress för livet registrerar du på http://www.home.se/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: timezero@home.se Subject: (kw) I look around... Date: 09 Apr 1999 12:23:09 +0200 (CEST) "I look around.... Looking for stuff... Videos and songs... By my favoite group... Im a kraftwerk dummie Im a kraftwerk dummie" please give me some url woth kraftwerk mp3s just. And videos! please! _________________________________________________________ En adress för livet registrerar du på http://www.home.se/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timon Marmex Trzepacz Subject: Re: (kw) kling and klang Date: 09 Apr 1999 03:53:58 -0700 MuSiK wrote: > I think is more like Yin-Yang in sound version. "Kling Klang" = "Sound Sounded" (from AltaVista's "Translation with SYSTRAN" page at http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate? ) I had also heard that it meant "ringing tone". -- Timon -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Compute" Subject: (kw) Re: klingklang Date: 09 Apr 1999 13:06:36 GMT Lenny, we've got to wonder sometimes. DJ Compute > >isn't Kling Klang sort of like Boing Boom Tschuck (types of sounds, > not > >really words) so do you think R+F named Kling Klang after Kling and > Klang > >from Pippi L. who wrote that book anyway? i remember the story from > when i > >was a kid too, but not too well.> >> >thanks,> >> >lenny g ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Spedding Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Date: 09 Apr 1999 20:52:29 +0100 Seen on a bookshop's web page... "p.m. et al. : Kraftwerk 1. Projekt fuer das Sulzer-Escher Wyss Areal. Ein bolo fuer Zuerich. Zuerich: Paranoia cit ; 33696 Offered for sale by Comenius-Antiquariat at CHF18.50" I presume this charming tome is not an erudite dissertation on the first album by a then little known german music combo but is, instead, all about making power stations in Germany. Could a german speaking reader of this list confirm this hypothesis. Mnay thanks -- Philip Spedding # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Liethen Subject: (kw) Another Kraftwerk 3D video in the works . . . Date: 09 Apr 1999 16:14:22 -0500 HelveticaHey all list members, If any of you can remember, about a year ago, I started and finished a 3D animation of Man Machine on a Kling Klang set. And it was neat. I received a lot of positive feedback on that animation, and that convinced me I should do another. The new animation project, Music Non Stop VR, will have a lot of improvements on the original Man Machine. Better detail in the 3D model and more animation (Ralf, Florian & other two will move!) I have done a few test animations, and I'm inviting all list members to check them out and give me some feedback before I finalize the design and plans. There are two files at: http://key.madison.tec.wi.us/pete/mns/index.html One is a short clip of the prototype opening to the video. The other files is a figure test showing detail of textures and animation. Please tell me what you think! Thanks. Monaco___________________________________________ Peter Liethen --- pliethen@execpc.com PeteNet Studio --- petenet.dragonfire.net What goes up, must come down. Ask any system administrator. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nitrous Subject: Re: (kw) Another Kraftwerk 3D video in the works . . . Date: 09 Apr 1999 17:34:18 -0400 Wow !!! Fantastic ...no kidding ....I love it. This is going to sit on my hard drive. Fantastic quality. Thanks Nitrous Peter Liethen wrote: > > Hey all list members, > If any of you can remember, about a year ago, I started and finished a 3D animation of Man Machine on a Kling Klang set. And it was neat. I received a lot of positive feedback on that animation, and that convinced me I should do another. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E5ns=20Sj=F6strand?= Subject: (kw) Re: kling and klang Date: 09 Apr 1999 23:35:52 +0200 > so which one came first: > KlingKlang or Pippi Longstocking? i know, who gives a shit!!! Astrid Lindgren`s first Pippi Longstocking book "Pippi l=E5ngstrump" was origanely published in Sweden 1945. - M=E5ns Sj=F6strand # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: (kw) Urgent: Contact to owners of Radioaktivitaet/The Voice Date: 09 Apr 1999 17:45:52 -0400 Pawel Kalinowski wrote: >My company is developing PC FPP game and I need >to check very quickly where I could license one track >from Radioactivity (The Voice of Energy to be exact) > >- noone I called helped me so >kraftwerk@xmission.com >is my (almost) last chance. > >Thanks in advance! I'd hate to be the bearer of bad news but I think your chances are almost nil. To my knowledge, Kraftwerk has never licensed any of their music for any purpose (though they have allowed covers.) On the other hand, you don't know till you try. But more to the point, the chances of Kraftwerk or someone connected with them responding quickly to your inquiry is, I'm afraid, very small... these are people who take a decade to make a 60 minute album... /t # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pawel Kalinowski" Subject: PD: (kw) Urgent: Contact to owners of Radioaktivitaet/The Voiceof Energy Date: 10 Apr 1999 09:32:08 +0200 >>My company is developing PC FPP game and I need >>to check very quickly where I could license one track >>from Radioactivity (The Voice of Energy to be exact) >I'd hate to be the bearer of bad news but I think your chances are >almost nil. To my knowledge, Kraftwerk has never licensed any of >their music for any purpose (though they have allowed covers.) >On the other hand, you don't know till you try. > >But more to the point, the chances of Kraftwerk or someone connected >with them responding quickly to your inquiry is, I'm afraid, very >small... these are people who take a decade to make a 60 minute album... Point of my ask is a French children educational game "Prince comes to school" where is a nice (and relatively long) part of Telephone Call from Electric Cafe, of course. As a potential local publishers of the title we were supposed to pay certain amout of money per each copy sold to some French authority "for licensed soundtrack" and it was a part of the agreement. So, on the other hand, what is the max length of royalty-free sample ? I am asking an old and dummy question, because we are not making music, just buying or licensing tracks. And, I do not want a contact to KW, which is hopeless of course, but to a licensing company (what is not that hopeless). The point is, who owns tracks of KW. If KW (what is unlikely) the case is closed. If any other company, the case is ONLY difficult. On the third hand - will this be a copyright law violation to recreate speech of The Generator ? Best Regards, Pawel Kalinowski, Project Manager / Mirage Media http://www.mortyr.com/ http://www.mortyr.net/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Ralf Huetter's reliability (was: RE: (kw) Bootlegs store on the Date: 10 Apr 1999 10:59:48 +0000 > and Ralph said in one interview from Rio > a new album will come before the next millenium. Yes, and he said in interviews from 1987 that a new album will come in 1988, and in interviews from 1991 that a new album will come in 1992, and in an interview from 1993 that a new album will come in 1994, not to forget his quote from 1996 where he announced the release of a new Kraftwerk album before 1998. :-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Mobile Homes Date: 10 Apr 1999 10:59:48 +0000 > The cover of the "Test" (Hawk Records, 1992) LP (their first album which > imho is really really bad) by Mobile Homes features a similar artwork to the > "Showroom Dummies" CDM by KRAFTWERK, edited by the label of Los Angeles, > Cleopatra/CEMA. Also Karl Bartos has collaborated in this record, I thought their first collaboration was the "Turn off the silence" single from 1994? For what was Bartos credited on "Test"? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Urgent: Contact to owners of Radioaktivitaet/The Voice Date: 10 Apr 1999 10:59:48 +0000 > My company is developing PC FPP game and I need > to check very quickly where I could license one track > from Radioactivity (The Voice of Energy to be exact) Try the website of the German Authors' Rights Society, http://www.gema.de/eng/index.html. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Priscila Morsoletto" Subject: (kw) Re: Ralf Huetter's reliability Date: 10 Apr 1999 14:30:23 -0300 On 10 Apr 99 at 10:59, Klaus Zaepke wrote: >> and Ralph said in one interview from Rio >> a new album will come before the next millenium. > >Yes, and he said in interviews from 1987 that a new album will >come in 1988, and in interviews from 1991 that a new album will come >in 1992, and in an interview from 1993 that a new album will come in >1994, not to forget his quote from 1996 where he announced the >release of a new Kraftwerk album before 1998. :-) IMO it's finally looks true because they played "new" songs in the concerts. And he also talked some things about the album in these interviews down here, but we just need to wait (it's a thing what a Kraftwerk fan do alot!) and see. Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: PD: (kw) Urgent: Contact to owners of Radioaktivitaet/The Date: 10 Apr 1999 14:59:41 -0400 >>>My company is developing PC FPP game and I need >>>to check very quickly where I could license one track >>>from Radioactivity (The Voice of Energy to be exact) >On the third hand - >will this be a copyright law violation to recreate speech of The Generator ? that's by far the best idea. Kraftwerk have no monopoly on the vocoder sound, so if you changed the tune and words somewhat you'd be totally safe, at least so far as US, British and Canadian copyright law go. /t # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TiMeZeRo Subject: (kw) KW Date: 08 Apr 1999 22:05:10 +0200 How do we now that kraftwerk is on the list? Has anyone sent an request with the mail Ralf.hutter@kraftwerk.com It could be an idiot just... Or it could be the webmaster for www.kraftwerk.com, i dont think Ralf or Florian made the page. But if any one wants to know ther is an mail at kraftwerk site. it is info@kraftwerk.com it doesnt show up on the pag. But the email is registrated. Daniel Just asking, Daniel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: timezero@home.se Subject: (kw) X-Mailer: AtDot 1.8.5 Date: 10 Apr 1999 22:13:58 +0200 (CEST) How do we now that kraftwerk is on the list? Has anyone sent an request with the mail Ralf.hutter@kraftwerk.com It could be an idiot just... Or it could be the webmaster for www.kraftwerk.com, i dont think Ralf or Florian made the page. But if any one wants to know ther is an mail at kraftwerk site. it is info@kraftwerk.com it doesnt show up on the page. But! The email is registrated. Just asking, Daniel _________________________________________________________ En adress för livet registrerar du på http://www.home.se/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: Ralf Huetter's reliability (was: RE: (kw) Bootlegs store Date: 10 Apr 1999 17:16:09 +0200 >Yes, and he said in interviews from 1987 that a new album will >come in 1988, and in interviews from 1991 that a new album will come etc. well, he's reliable: you could always expect that all the time he says that the next album will be published next year... :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: PD: (kw) Urgent: Contact to owners of Radioaktivitaet/The Date: 10 Apr 1999 17:15:13 -0400 >>My company is developing PC FPP game and I need >>to check very quickly where I could license one track >>from Radioactivity (The Voice of Energy to be exact) > >>On the third hand - >>will this be a copyright law violation to recreate speech of The Generator ? > > >that's by far the best idea. Kraftwerk have no monopoly on the vocoder >sound, so if you changed the tune and words somewhat you'd be totally >safe, at least so far as US, British and Canadian copyright law go. at least, as far as my limited knowledge of these laws goes. only a lawyer can tell you for sure. your mileage may vary. do not staple, fold or mutilate. void where prohibited. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mischoulon@aol.com Subject: (kw) Re: Stalkers Date: 10 Apr 1999 22:35:16 EDT I thought R&F traded their Mercedes' in for VW Golfs a long time ago!? David M Matthew Large" wrote: <<>> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Compute" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk.com E-mail Date: 11 Apr 1999 03:00:07 GMT Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've worked with web servers before that if you make up any username and throw the domain name on the end of it, even if that username doesn't exist it just gets forwarded to the system administrator. So if ralf.hutter@kraftwerk.com didn't exist it may get to them anyways. Mind you, not all servers work like this. Just a thought... Best Regards, DJ Compute ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fpinto@byu.edu Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk.com E-mail Date: 10 Apr 1999 21:56:05 -0600     Well, while you try to figure out the e-mail address of Die Mensch Maschine, let me throw something exciting here. There is a TCP/IP command called "tracert." To use it, you just need to open any DOS window (Click Start button-programs-MS DOS prompt) and type this: tracert www.kraftwerk.com
Lo and behold, if your computer is connected to the Internet, it will give you the entire list of the hops that your request travels before hitting the computer where the files of kraftwerk.com are! :-)

Now, if only "finger" worked ;)

FPinto
Von Himmel Digital Hoch:
http://128.187.42.171/kraftwerk.html
***Hollywood 98*** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) New album Date: 11 Apr 1999 11:36:45 +0200 Chris Stann wrote: >Hate to be the pessimist, but It does not sound like we'll see a new >Kraftwerk release. Do you think Kraftwerk has what it takes to compete >with the contemporary "techno"? Can they capture and inspire 12 and 14 >year olds today the way they did in 1980? And if they do, are we, the >die-hard KW fanatics, going to like new Kraftwerk songs? Are we going to >quickly dismiss them as too different and not true to the traditional KW >sound - this has happened already to the unnamed songs from the Tribal >Gathering. The pioneers of the global use of electronics in pop, and the responsibles of that at present it be a common language. Their long silences and their scarce appearances nourish a myth, a mistery. On that hermetism there is a large percentage of consequent attitude with the behaviour always enigmatic of the band, of not to budge an inch to the chance to consider them anyone more, to impose their own schedule to the anxiety of fans, media and record company. But it also exists a widespread course of thought which interpret that interminable silence with the logic of who no longer have nothing to win (but a lot to offer) and a lot to lose. For a band that changed the face of pop, they made it so respectable and often more daring and creative than the rock, and whithout them genres like techno, house, ambient and (via electro) hip hop, wouldn't be as today we know them, any step that they don't take onwards it could be a false step. Kraftwerk are the origin of techno, of techno-pop, of industrial music, of electro and all the ramifications and tranformations that pop and dance music has stood since they proved the utility of the synthesizer as source of infinite sounds and not a simple pedestrian emulator of known instruments. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk.com E-mail Date: 11 Apr 1999 08:56:48 EDT In a message dated 11/04/99 04:01:50 GMT Daylight Time, ratsorea@hotmail.com writes: << So if ralf.hutter@kraftwerk.com didn't exist it may get to them anyways. Mind you, not all servers work like this. Just a thought... >> I've sent things to them like this, but - of course - there's no reply. Apparently someone once got a reply from , ahem..., the "internet police" (tee hee) asking them to stop sending stuff to the domain. Laff-a-minute them Germans ! Mailen Verboten !!!!! >8^D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mischoulon@aol.com Subject: (kw) Question about KW Members Date: 11 Apr 1999 10:40:51 EDT Hi everyone! In the current positioning of the boys on stage (left to right from the audience standpoint), we have Ralf, Percussionist 1, Percussionist 2, and Florian. Which one is Henning and which one is Fritz? Thanks! David M # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TiMeZeRo Subject: (kw) Why not mail... Date: 09 Apr 1999 17:37:35 +0200 Why not mail info@kraftwerk.com, why? And why not? Maybe Ralf gets som feelings to check this mailbox? Well i guess someone someday checking the box. well why not send a poem about kraftwerk... Daniel =) _///__ From Daniel Mark at / o o \ TiMeZeRo@HoMe.Se \ (___) / \_____/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Priscila Morsoletto" Subject: (kw) E-Mail question Date: 11 Apr 1999 13:01:05 -0300 Hi all, Then I start on the web (early 96) I find a place where have a mail "ralf.hutter@klingklang.com" but at this time I was to much silly to understand about web things like I know now. And also I don't try it because at this time I doesn't speak english (just understand with lots of problems). Does anybody else find it??? Please help! =( Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeroen de Haan" Subject: Re: (kw) Question about KW Members Date: 11 Apr 1999 18:39:23 +0200 > In the current positioning of the boys on stage (left to right from the > audience standpoint), we have Ralf, Percussionist 1, Percussionist 2, and > Florian. Which one is Henning and which one is Fritz? Didn't we had this one a month ago? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Priscila Morsoletto" Subject: (kw) About me... :-P (As replay for "E-Mail question") Date: 11 Apr 1999 14:33:49 -0300 On 11 Apr 99 at 18:41, Jeroen de Haan wrote: >Wow, a female Kraftwerk-fan! Cool!!! >BTW where your from? Brazile? Yes, I'm a female from Brazil. I live in Sao Paulo... :-) Well, I have 17-years-old (I born in December 81) and I start to hear KW then my older brother bought a Electric Cafe's vinyl in 86 (with SIX-years-old!!!). I'm kind a wierd chick, isn't? ;-) It's just to everybody know somethings about me... thanks to waste you time reading my story! Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Compute" Subject: Re: (kw) New album Date: 11 Apr 1999 19:31:27 GMT Hey Automat, I run this page called The Nonsense Storybook at http://welcome.to/nonsensestorybook and we're always looking for submissions. You should check it out. DJ Compute >The pioneers of the global use of electronics in pop, and the responsibles >of that at present it be a common language. Their long silences and their >scarce appearances nourish a myth, a mistery. On that hermetism there is a etc etc etc etc etc etc etc............ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SRRecords@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) New album Date: 11 Apr 1999 15:49:15 EDT In a message dated 4/11/99 7:31:37 PM, ratsorea@hotmail.com writes: <The pioneers of the global use of electronics in pop, and the responsibles >of that at present it be a common language. Their long silences and their >scarce appearances nourish a myth, a mistery. On that hermetism there is a etc etc etc etc etc etc etc............>> hahaha - it almost sounded like a Kraftwerk review/story/opinion article in the style of a Yes song from 1973. . . . . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JMJ Fanklubb Norge" Subject: (kw) Sverre Knut Johansen Date: 12 Apr 1999 00:47:45 +0200 Hey, According to a newspaper review from Norway on the "Source of energy" = album by Sverre K. Johansen, the music is influenced by Kraftwerk. The = album is not released yet. Jarre forever! Glenn Folkvord Jean-Michel Jarre Fanklubb Norge Lundgard, 2032 Maura (Norway) Mail to glenn@jmjfkn.com Surf to www.jmjfkn.com Organiser of the international JMJ tribute album Publisher of IMAGES magazine since 1993 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: RE: Ralf Huetter's reliability (was: RE: (kw) Bootlegs store on the Date: 12 Apr 1999 8:52:06 +0100 Yes, and he said in interviews from 1987 that a new album will=20 come in 1988, and in interviews from 1991 that a new album will come=20 in 1992, and in an interview from 1993 that a new album will come in=20 1994, not to forget his quote from 1996 where he announced the=20 release of a new Kraftwerk album before 1998=2E :-) Klaus Zaepke Don't forget that when I asked him at Roskilde in 1998 he said "Tomorrow,=20 tomorrow" /Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mischoulon@aol.com Subject: (kw) Question about Fernando Abrantes Date: 12 Apr 1999 07:10:13 EDT Are there any KW bootleg videos which feature Fernando Abrantes during his stint with KW (before Fritz joined)? Thanks! David M # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: m.schmidt@top.east.de Subject: (kw) off topic Date: 11 Apr 1999 19:22:00 +0100 Hallo kraftwerker! I had a pc crash today. I had lost all my emails and Guestbook dates.=B7 Please write again.=B7 I had also lost all my email-adresses- Please contact me again.=B7 -- Mit elektrischen Gr=FC=DFen,=B7 Marko ----------------------------------------------------- Germankraft die deutsche Kraftwerk-Homepage:www.kraftwerk.mdis.de ----------------------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Luna Date: 12 Apr 1999 16:04:47 +0200 The New Yorker band Luna has made a based guitar version of Neon Lights. Luna are Sean Eden, guitar / Lee Wall, drums / Dean Wareham, vocals & guitar / Justin Harwood, bass. Their CDsingle is called "Superfreky Memories" CD5: 1999 UK Beggars Banquet (BBQ334) (to be released April 5, 1999) Superfreaky Memories Neon Lights The Bad Vibe Merchant http://www.teleport.com/~luna/luna/discog.html DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "G. Benedikt Rochow" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk.com E-mail Date: 12 Apr 1999 10:15:12 -0400 (EDT) > I've sent things to them like this, but - of course - there's no reply. > Apparently someone once got a reply from , ahem..., the "internet police" > (tee hee) asking them to stop sending stuff to the domain. Years ago, I looked up the domain at NIC and wrote to the contact listed there; I asked if he was a studio employee, so to speak, but he's just a normal web page designer/maintainer for hire. There has to be some contact between hm and KW, but I'd say this list probably reaches KW faster than he does. > Laff-a-minute them Germans ! > I'll refrain from commenting on that one. > Mailen Verboten !!!!! > > >8^D -gbr # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lemmens Geert Subject: (kw) dashboardcover Date: 12 Apr 1999 07:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Oké, maybe i wasn't clear enough. I didn't ask which car was drawn on the cover, I only want to know: what is the difference between the usual cover and teh dashboardcover? In which year was it released? Who distributed it? (On my LP, the copyright and distributioninformation have been made unreadable by some black tape (probably the former owner, it's a second hand)). Also i would like to know: Concertclassics, is it a bootleg? By, Skylined === surf.to/musicpage "Keep it real, keep it Prodigy" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) infobahn was: Bootlegs store on the net? Date: 13 Apr 1999 06:58:44 +0100 (CET) On Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:42:43 +0000, 47 wrote: >I guess we all waiting for something called "kraftwerk 2000" or maybe "Kraftwerk 1900" if Klingklang is not year 2000 ready :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) News on my MP3 page: http://home.worldnet.fr/bonald/audio/mp3.htm Date: 13 Apr 1999 07:54:22 +0100 (CET) Yes, this week you will not find any Kraftwerk MP3 on my Web page. Don't worry, I still love Kraftwerk music!!! HOwever, I've a problem with the CDR containing all the Kraftwerk rare stuff in MP3 format. The CD is not scratched in any case, however I use a CDR software that allow you to burn a CD without having the need to close session each time you use it etc. I won't go here into technical details but the result is that for some unknown reasons, my CDR software won't run so I can't read this damned KW CDR because it's not write protected. So, I have to wait until a friend who have a CDR recorder may help. So, I finally decided to put on-line something from my second favourite band of all time : ULtravox. It's the complete 'Live in Concert (Jean 81)' CD that was released in 1992 by the Wingsong record label. Of course, it's out of print, I wouldn't have posted it if it were not the case. This live is A true masterpiece with seven of the nine tracks from the Vienna album performed live. If you like Ultravox, you will really like very much this live stuff as is really catshes all the live atmosphere. oh, and btw, you will find a review of this CD here: http://www.awrc.com/review/u/live_in_concert.html Enjoy!!! Note: I will be in vacation for two weeks starting Monday. So no update of course to the page... I hope I can put again Kraftwerk stuff in May... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob VonMoss Subject: Re: (kw) Another Kraftwerk 3D video in the works . . . Date: 14 Apr 1999 00:28:38 -0500 Peter Liethen wrote: > The new animation project, Music Non Stop VR, will have a lot of improvements on the original Man Machine. Better detail in the 3D model and more animation (Ralf, Florian & other two will move!) What do you play .mpeg files with? -- Bob VonMoss mailto:bvonmoss@bigfoot.com from Chicago, IL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) PictOf KW I NeverSeenBefore Date: 14 Apr 1999 13:42:56 +0100 Helloo to you all, I found a picture of 3/4KW at a place I shouldn't take anything from without paying for it, but I couldn't resist, anyway I only t= ook a low-res version of it and I won't link this from my site, only for you on= =20 the list=2E Has anybody seen this picture before, and if so, who besides 3/4KW is on it= ? And where was it taken? You'll find it at: http://members=2Etripod=2Ecom/~KlingKlang/newpict=2Ehtml Regards/johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: Re: (kw) PictOf KW I NeverSeenBefore Date: 14 Apr 1999 09:13:04 wrote: >Has anybody seen this picture before, and if so, who besides 3/4KW is on it? >And where was it taken? I'm not sure where it was taken or who the chap in the middle is, but I do believe that second from the left standing to the right of Wolfgang Flur is one Mr. Emil Schult with long hair. nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter.." #Kraftwerk, IRC's dalnet >You'll find it at: >http://members.tripod.com/~KlingKlang/newpict.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michel J.Fauza Subject: (kw) Yes / klingklang.com / Underworld Date: 14 Apr 1999 10:02:57 EST >DJ Compute wrote: >hahaha - it almost sounded like a Kraftwerk review/story/opinion article= >in the style of a Yes song from 1973. . . . . = Hey, i love Yes! Did you see "The Return To The Centre Of The Earth" by R= ick Wakeman on this year? >Priscila Morsoletto wrote: >Then I start on the web (early 96) I find a place where have a mail >"ralf.hutter@klingklang.com" Hi Priscilla! Long time no see... Well, i checked this domain (klingklang.com), and it seems it's a "resonance gallery", nothing to do = with Kraftwerk or Kling Klang studios... I recommend to all the new Underworld album, Beaucoup Fish. They're a goo= d Kraftwerk son... :-) Michel J. Fauza ICQ: 12449637 http://members.xoom.com/fase3 Sao Paulo - Brasil ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: RE: (kw) PictOf KW I NeverSeenBefore Date: 14 Apr 1999 15:20:15 +0100 For me he looks a bit like a childish Iggy Pop - but I don't know /Johan I'm not sure where it was taken or who the chap in the middle is,=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paolo G. Cordone" Subject: Re: (kw) PictOf KW I NeverSeenBefore Date: 14 Apr 1999 13:33:54 +0100 At 13:42 +0100 14/04/99, johan.andersson@allers.aller.se wrote: >Has anybody seen this picture before, and if so, who besides 3/4KW is on it? Could it be that Emil Schult is the second from the left? Paolo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: The man in the middle (was: RE: (kw) PictOf KW I NeverSeenBefore Date: 14 Apr 1999 18:25:59 +0000 > >Has anybody seen this picture before, and if so, who besides 3/4KW > >is on it? And where was it taken? > > I'm not sure where it was taken According to a German Techno encyclopedia, it was taken at the "Dorian Gray" discotheque in Frankfurt. Assuming that this is correct, it would mean that this discotheque cultivated a circus ambiente at this time, with sawdust on the floor and painted lions on the wall... > or who the chap in the middle is, It could be the same person who was spotted selling T-shirts at Kraftwerk's show in Roskilde last year. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fredrik =?iso-8859-1?Q?F=E4llman?= Subject: Re: (kw) PictOf KW I NeverSeenBefore Date: 14 Apr 1999 19:49:22 +0200 I also think that the person beside Wolgang is Emil Schult but who is the one between him and Florian???? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Stann Subject: RE: (kw) PictOf KW I NeverSeenBefore Date: 14 Apr 1999 13:06:15 -0500 ELVIS??????? -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 12:49 PM I also think that the person beside Wolgang is Emil Schult but who is = the one between him and Florian???? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original = sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: = http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nowhere000@aol.com Subject: Re: The man in the middle (was: RE: (kw) PictOf KW I NeverSeenBefore Date: 14 Apr 1999 15:24:36 EDT << It could be the same person who was spotted selling T-shirts at Kraftwerk's show in Roskilde last year. >> Some info on "the guy selling T-shirts" I had a chat with him at Roskilde -Things he said- Kraftwerk will play South America Kraftwerk will release a new album next year (1999) Kraftwerk will tour the world in the summer of (1999) "Don't tell anyone until...." -Another Fact This T-shirt guy is a part of the inner workings of Kraftwerk. He is at every show And He owns a record shop in Dusseldorf not far from klingklang where I bought Kraftwerk boots one or two of them had the Techno pop demos for sex object and Techno pop. When I bought the records he said "you didn't buy these here shhh" And one more thing At Roskilde last year I met with some people who informed me that during the day KW played some sort of unreleased material. I was quite disappointed when only minor differences in rendition were heard to the same old songs rather than these new (songs)? I was almost killed during the near riot of that gig, My friend who had never been to an out door tent festival blacked out because of the heat and sheer terror of being in that crowd. I don't think I will ever go back to the tents unless I have to. N o w here # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) techno Pop CD auction Date: 14 Apr 1999 21:59:48 +0100 somebody look at this! Some guy has made his own bootleg CD of what Techno Pop could've been... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=90687351 -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nowhere000@aol.com Subject: Re: The man in the middle (was: RE: (kw) PictOf KW I NeverSeenBefore Date: 14 Apr 1999 17:40:59 EDT << << It could be the same person who was spotted selling T-shirts at Kraftwerk's show in Roskilde last year. >> Some info on "the guy selling T-shirts" I had a chat with him at Roskilde -Things he said- Kraftwerk will play South America Kraftwerk will release a new album next year (1999) Kraftwerk will tour the world in the summer of (1999) "Don't tell anyone until...." -Another Fact This T-shirt guy is a part of the inner workings of Kraftwerk. He is at every show And He owns a record shop in Dusseldorf not far from klingklang where I bought Kraftwerk boots one or two of them had the Techno pop demos for sex object and Techno pop. When I bought the records he said "you didn't buy these here shhh" And one more thing At Roskilde last year I met with some people who informed me that during the day KW played some sort of unreleased material. I was quite disappointed when only minor differences in rendition were heard to the same old songs rather than these new (songs)? I was almost killed during the near riot of that gig, My friend who had never been to an out door tent festival blacked out because of the heat and sheer terror of being in that crowd. I don't think I will ever go back to the tents unless I have to. N o w here # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: (kw) "Techno Pop" bootleg CD on eBay. Date: 14 Apr 1999 17:50:14 For those of you interested, someone on eBay is currently auctioning off a KW bootleg CD (on the Gingerbread record label) that goes by the name "Techno Pop" and contains the following tracklisting: 1.Techno-Pop (demo) 2.Tour de France 3.The Telephone Call 4.Sex Object (demo) 5.Bonus track: Tour de France (DiscoNet mix) 6.Bonus Track: Objecto de Sexo I'm not sure if track 6 is simply the Spanish language version of "Sex Objekt" or not. The cover artwork on the CD was taken from the "Tour de France" single. Remember, this is just a bootleg that someone put together, it is *not* a CD copy of the infamous "Techno Pop" album that was abandoned. Check it out at: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=90687351 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Pitt" Subject: (kw) Tour De Kraft update Date: 14 Apr 1999 23:39:19 +0100 Hi, MP3's from the 1981 tour from the Computers in Love cd. The Model Neon Lights The Cover version is 'The Robots' from the BassKraft. tribute cd. Mike. Kraftwerk Live 1981 and Cover Versions. http://website.lineone.net/~mike.pitt/tdk.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HigbyHogan@aol.com Subject: (kw) Allo, Damen und Herren... Date: 14 Apr 1999 18:46:37 EDT I joined this list yesterday and am a longtime Kraftwerk fanatic (since the age of 15, at least, when the Man-Machine cover caught my eye, whilst browsing through the electronic music albums at the Cosmic Aeroplane in Salt Lake City, Utah). I'm looking forward to the informative posts to come. I recently acquired the '98 CD "GARY LUCAS @PARADISO", on which he does a brilliant live version of "Autobahn", solo, on a heavily effect-laden '63 Stratocaster. It's released by Oxygen Music Works. Higby # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nowhere000@aol.com Subject: Re: The man in the middle (was: RE: (kw) PictOf KW I NeverSeenBefore Date: 14 Apr 1999 23:07:49 EDT << << It could be the same person who was spotted selling T-shirts at Kraftwerk's show in Roskilde last year. >> Some info on "the guy selling T-shirts" I had a chat with him at Roskilde -Things he said- Kraftwerk will play South America Kraftwerk will release a new album next year (1999) Kraftwerk will tour the world in the summer of (1999) "Don't tell anyone until...." -Another Fact This T-shirt guy is a part of the inner workings of Kraftwerk. He is at every show And He owns a record shop in Dusseldorf not far from klingklang where I bought Kraftwerk boots one or two of them had the Techno pop demos for sex object and Techno pop. When I bought the records he said "you didn't buy these here shhh" And one more thing At Roskilde last year I met with some people who informed me that during the day KW played some sort of unreleased material. I was quite disappointed when only minor differences in rendition were heard to the same old songs rather than these new (songs)? I was almost killed during the near riot of that gig, My friend who had never been to an out door tent festival blacked out because of the heat and sheer terror of being in that crowd. I don't think I will ever go back to the tents unless I have to. N o w here # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nowhere000@aol.com Subject: Re: The man in the middle (was: RE: (kw) PictOf KW I NeverSeenBefore Date: 15 Apr 1999 02:24:09 EDT << It could be the same person who was spotted selling T-shirts at Kraftwerk's show in Roskilde last year. >> Some info on "the guy selling T-shirts" I had a chat with him at Roskilde -Things he said- Kraftwerk will play South America Kraftwerk will release a new album next year (1999) Kraftwerk will tour the world in the summer of (1999) "Don't tell anyone until...." -Another Fact This T-shirt guy is a part of the inner workings of Kraftwerk. He is at every show And He owns a record shop in Dusseldorf not far from klingklang where I bought Kraftwerk boots one or two of them had the Techno pop demos for sex object and Techno pop. When I bought the records he said "you didn't buy these here shhh" And one more thing At Roskilde last year I met with some people who informed me that during the day KW played some sort of unreleased material. I was quite disappointed when only minor differences in rendition were heard to the same old songs rather than these new (songs)? I was almost killed during the near riot of that gig, My friend who had never been to an out door tent festival blacked out because of the heat and sheer terror of being in that crowd. I don't think I will ever go back to the tents unless I have to. N o w here # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Mobile Homes Date: 15 Apr 1999 15:26:20 +0200 Klaus Zaepke wrote: >> The cover of the "Test" (Hawk Records, 1992) LP (their first album which >> imho is really really bad) by Mobile Homes features a similar artwork to >> the"Showroom Dummies" CDM by KRAFTWERK, edited by the label of Los >>Angeles, Cleopatra/CEMA. Also Karl Bartos has collaborated in this record, > >I thought their first collaboration was the "Turn off the silence" >single from 1994? For what was Bartos credited on "Test"? Karl Bartos is simply credited as "collaboration". I think Bartos collaborates in the songs "Undress Me" and "Dead And Gone" where it can be (by dint of bringing nearer the hearing) guessed some "similar" sounds to Kraftwerk's. The single "Turn off the silence" is not including on this album. Karl Bartos also produced the single "You Make The Sun Shine" of the second album of the Swedish band. BTW, Nachtwerk and Elektric Music mixed in 1991 the CDsingle "Dreiklangdimensionen" by Rheingold. Or it was in 1990? Karl Bartos also collaborates in the new album by Electronic, the band which apparently has influenced on him, much more than Kraftwerk. DER AUTOMAT Wir Funktionier Automatik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Elektric Music Date: 15 Apr 1999 16:03:55 +0200 Founded at Yahoo!: Children Within - Electropop music in the land of Elektric Music, Recoil and Depeche Mode BUT with an intellegent own style. http://www.ettnet.se/~october/Children.html http://www.s-data.se/children/ DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) New Kraftwerk material (was: The man in the middle) Date: 15 Apr 1999 16:31:29 +0000 > Some info on "the guy selling T-shirts" > I had a chat with him at Roskilde > -Things he said- [...] > Kraftwerk will release a new album next year (1999) > Kraftwerk will tour the world in the summer of (1999) > "Don't tell anyone until...." That's funny! Ralf Huetter mentioned these plans in almost every interview he gave during the US part of the tour, and two weeks later his T-shirt merchant asks fans to keep this secret... :-) > At Roskilde last year I met with some people who informed me that during the > day KW played some sort of unreleased material. I was quite disappointed > when only minor differences in rendition were heard to the same old songs > rather than these new (songs)? Speaking about this (relatively) new material performed at various 1997 and 1998 soundchecks: Two unreleased Kraftwerk tracks in MP3 format, recorded at the Karlsruhe 1997 soundcheck from afar, can be downloaded from http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/3713/soundcheck.html. The sound quality is poor. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Karl Bartos (was: RE: (kw) Mobile Homes) Date: 15 Apr 1999 16:31:28 +0000 > >> The cover of the "Test" (Hawk Records, 1992) LP (their first album which > >> imho is really really bad) by Mobile Homes features a similar artwork to > >> the"Showroom Dummies" CDM by KRAFTWERK, edited by the label of Los > >>Angeles, Cleopatra/CEMA. Also Karl Bartos has collaborated in this record, > > > >I thought their first collaboration was the "Turn off the silence" > >single from 1994? For what was Bartos credited on "Test"? > > Karl Bartos is simply credited as "collaboration". I think Bartos > collaborates in the songs "Undress Me" and "Dead And Gone" where it can > be (by dint of bringing nearer the hearing) guessed some "similar" sounds to > Kraftwerk's. The single "Turn off the silence" is not including on this > album. Yes, indeed, it seems logical that a track from 1994 isn't included on an album from 1992... :-) > Karl Bartos also produced the single "You Make The Sun Shine" of the > second album of the Swedish band. It's actually their fifth album, and he co-produced the entire album, and not just the single. > BTW, Nachtwerk and Elektric Music mixed in 1991 the CDsingle > "Dreiklangdimensionen" by Rheingold. Or it was in 1990? Do you have any hard facts that the remix is in fact by Elektric Music? It has often been suggested that Elektric Music did the remix, but the record sleeve doesn't credit them, and it appears that the single was released one or two years before Elektric Music was founded... > Karl Bartos also collaborates in the new album by Electronic, With the new album, do you mean their latest album release "Raise the Pressure" from 1996, or their forthcoming album? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: FW: (kw) New Kraftwerk material (was: The man in the middle) Date: 15 Apr 1999 16:44:52 +0100 Speaking about this (relatively) new material performed at various 1997 and 1998 soundchecks: Two unreleased Kraftwerk tracks in MP3 format, recorded at the Karlsruhe 1997 soundcheck from afar, can be =2E=2E=2ESounds scary=2E=2E=2E Tanks, this was interesting/Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JMJ Fanklubb Norge" Subject: (kw) Change of style (Elektric Music) Date: 15 Apr 1999 18:48:04 +0200 Hey KW'ers, I recently got the latest Elektrik Music album, which was a completely = new style compared to Esperanto. Would anyone care to explain why the = change of style/genre? Will the next one be country&western? :-) Jarre forever! Glenn Folkvord Jean-Michel Jarre Fanklubb Norge Lundgard, 2032 Maura (Norway) Mail to glenn@jmjfkn.com Surf to www.jmjfkn.com Organiser of the international JMJ tribute album Publisher of IMAGES magazine since 1993 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JMJ Fanklubb Norge" Subject: SV: The man in the middle (was: RE: (kw) PictOf KW I NeverSeenBefore Date: 15 Apr 1999 18:43:05 +0200 Klaus Z. wrote: >According to a German Techno encyclopedia, it was taken at the=20 >"Dorian Gray" discotheque in Frankfurt. Assuming that this is=20 >correct, it would mean that this discotheque cultivated a circus=20 >ambiente at this time, with sawdust on the floor and painted lions on=20 >the wall... Weird.... In the early 70s, pre-Oxygene fame, Jean-Michel Jarre = composed an electronic opera called "Dorian Grey". Can anybody tell me = who Dorian Grey was/is, and why the discotheque seem to be in related to = musicians? Was it some sort of pre-techno hangout place? Jarre forever! Glenn Folkvord Jean-Michel Jarre Fanklubb Norge Lundgard, 2032 Maura (Norway) Mail to glenn@jmjfkn.com Surf to www.jmjfkn.com Organiser of the international JMJ tribute album Publisher of IMAGES magazine since 1993 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Sueddeutsche Zeitung on Kraftwerk Date: 15 Apr 1999 19:02:43 +0200 (DFT) Todays edition of the Sueddeutsche Zeitung features an essay on Kraftwerk, Rammstein and Fascism. The article (German language) is online at http://www.sueddeutsche.de/aktuell/feuill_e.htm (only today). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "G. Benedikt Rochow" Subject: Re: SV: The man in the middle (was: RE: (kw) PictOf KW I NeverSeenBefore Date: 15 Apr 1999 13:15:53 -0400 (EDT) >Can anybody tell me who Dorian Gray was/is An Oscar Wilde character; he has a picture of himself that ages instead of himself.... -gbr # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Dorian Grey (was: Re: SV: The man in the middle) Date: 15 Apr 1999 19:24:34 +0200 (DFT) I wrote: > According to a German Techno encyclopedia, it was taken at the > "Dorian Gray" discotheque in Frankfurt. It's of course "Dorian Grey" with an "e". Sorry for the typo! JMJ Fanklubb Norge wrote: > Weird.... In the early 70s, pre-Oxygene fame, Jean-Michel Jarre composed > an electronic opera called "Dorian Grey". Can anybody tell me who Dorian > Grey was/is, He's a fictional character from the novel "The picture of Dorian Grey" by Ocar Wilde (full text version online at http://haven.ios.com/~wordup/wilde/dorgray.html). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "G. Benedikt Rochow" Subject: Re: (kw) Sueddeutsche Zeitung on Kraftwerk Date: 15 Apr 1999 13:47:17 -0400 (EDT) Just brilliant. Without saying so at all, they give the impression that KW display swastikas. Great sentence, on the way there: "At the same time as KW, the New York Dolls and the Sex Pistols concerned themselves with / utilized icons of Germanness and fascism." i.e. KW did too. ("At the same time" is even less ambiguous in German to connect KW with the later verbs of the sentence). And they quote the critic Lester Bangs as "being afraid of then". Oh yes, by way of (apprently) German-developed Speed, taken by by US druggie artists, "the Reich [I guess that's how he would have said it in English] never died; it was reincarnated in American archetypes." Sure. An earlier quote: He was asked "Where is rock music going?" Answer, very quickly, "It's being/will be taken over by the Germans and their machines" - meaning not only musicians, but also 'the chemical industry', which in the mid-70s obviously was a direct connection to the inventors of Speed in WW II which were now taking over minds in the US. Huh? BTW, his grave knowledge comes from a meeting with Florian Huetter und Ralf Schneider during their '75 US tour. Keine Ahnung! And the journalist is swallowing it all whole. "H. and S. emphasized their might, as machine-complex and laboratory, to manipulate the audience and physically grasp them." I bet. With those xylophones on the '75 tour? Puh-leeze. Just when my loathing of the German media was wearing off.... -gbr On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Klaus Zaepke wrote: > > > Todays edition of the Sueddeutsche Zeitung features an essay on Kraftwerk, > Rammstein and Fascism. > The article (German language) is online at > http://www.sueddeutsche.de/aktuell/feuill_e.htm (only today). > > Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nowhere000@aol.com Subject: Re: Karl Bartos (was: RE: (kw) Mobile Homes) Date: 15 Apr 1999 14:35:30 EDT Bartos -Raise the Pressure Auther Baker is on the new (very good) Electronic Album "twisted tenderness" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nowhere000@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) New Kraftwerk material (was: The man in the middle) Date: 15 Apr 1999 15:05:41 EDT << Speaking about this (relatively) new material performed at various 1997 and 1998 soundchecks: Two unreleased Kraftwerk tracks in MP3 format, recorded at the Karlsruhe 1997 soundcheck from afar, can be downloaded from http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/3713/soundcheck.html. The sound quality is poor. >> At what point were these played? Between what songs? I think I heard all of the soundcheck. Can anyone confirm them playing this while on stage interacting with gear to match the sound ? (The windows were covered) Henning was the only one on stage during the post sound check as far as I saw. In-between some pre record house Trax could be heard. (not from the stage but the central DJ booth) I was standing right next to the stage while Henning was programming and I recall music in the same vein as the songs in those mp3s in the air of that shitty venue. The unreleased material(?) from Denmark was said to have no beat & was quite free form/abstrack. here NoW # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kent.Pendleton@choicepointinc.com Subject: (kw) Dorian Grey Date: 15 Apr 1999 15:43:00 -0400 The only Dorian Grey I know of is an old novel about a rich, successful man who everybody adored, until they found the portrait of him in the attic that aged while he stayed young forever. Does that jive with the story here, updated to modern times? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Young Subject: (kw) Dorian Gray Date: 15 Apr 1999 13:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Is this now a contest for the most devastatingly irrelevant post? Silence can be golden after all. jmy _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kent.Pendleton@choicepointinc.com Subject: (kw) Dorian Grey Date: 15 Apr 1999 15:43:00 -0400 The only Dorian Grey I know of is an old novel about a rich, successful man who everybody adored, until they found the portrait of him in the attic that aged while he stayed young forever. Does that jive with the story here, updated to modern times? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: The Karlsruhe 1997 soundcheck (was: Re: (kw) New Kraftwerk mater Date: 15 Apr 1999 23:23:15 +0000 > > Two unreleased Kraftwerk tracks in MP3 format, recorded at the > > Karlsruhe 1997 soundcheck from afar, can be downloaded from > > http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/3713/soundcheck.html. > > The sound quality is poor. > > At what point were these played? Between what songs? The following is quoted from the Aktivitaet fanzine, issue 10 (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/aktivitaet/10_live.htm): Even more... Kraftwerk performed a further two previously unreleased songs at the soundcheck for the Karlsruhe concert, bringing the total number of new tracks performed this year to five. The tracklisting for the Karlsruhe soundcheck is reported as: 'Nummern', 'Computerwelt', 'Heimcomputer', 'Die Mensch Maschine', Completely New Song 1, 'Autobahn', Completely New Song 2, 'Radioactivity', Second new song from the concert. NB; at the soundcheck only portions of the songs were performed, not the complete numbers. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Dorian Grey Date: 16 Apr 1999 16:00:43 +0200 JMJ Fanklubb Norge wrote: >>According to a German Techno encyclopedia, it was taken at the >>"Dorian Gray" discotheque in Frankfurt. Assuming that this is >>correct, it would mean that this discotheque cultivated a circus >>ambiente at this time, with sawdust on the floor and painted lions on >>the wall... > >Weird.... In the early 70s, pre-Oxygene fame, Jean-Michel Jarre composed >an electronic opera called "Dorian Grey". Can anybody tell me who Dorian >Grey was/is, and why the discotheque seem to be in related to musicians? >Was it some sort of pre-techno hangout place? Is Dorian Grey a discotheque sited in Frankfurt Airport? Besides "The portrait of Dorian Grey" is a novel written by Oscar Wilde, isn't it? Der Automat wrote: >There is an act called Schneider TM that make a kind of electronic music >that has been called Neo Kraut Electronic. lbo wrote: >first, the kraftwerk topicness: in this message I will talk about a band >called schneider tm. schneider is a german name and kraftwerk are german. >also, kraftwerk members trademarked many things. Is anybody able to confirm if Schneider TM has got to do with Kraftwerk? (similar sound, any cover version released, etc.?). TIA. BTW, Fortunato & Montresor have been included on the compilation CD "Vibe-Mood Electric" published by CutUp. The project named Fortunato & Montresor is produced by Joerg Offer and Ralf Beck (ex-Elektric Music). In spite of the first rumours Lothar Manteuffel (ex-Elektric Music) is not involved. The first two singles "Imagine" and "Beach Ball" were released by the label Superfly. DER AUTOMAT Wir Funktionier AUTOMATik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Dorian Grey Date: 16 Apr 1999 17:49:17 +0200 > >called schneider tm. schneider is a german name and kraftwerk are german. > > Is anybody able to confirm if Schneider TM has got to do with Kraftwerk? > (similar sound, any cover version released, etc.?). Automat, I was joking: the only thing Schneider TM has to do with Kraftwerk is the name. if you remember my message about them, I told that i listened to them live, they are about a sort of improvisated trance dance sometimes too experimental or jazzy (or they just loose control) with a couple of 303 and some effect. I did not like them a lot. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Compute" Subject: (kw) Technopop Demo Date: 17 Apr 1999 04:21:06 GMT After listening to the Technopop demo 1983 full version, my opinion is that I am glad the Music Non-Stop on Electric Cafe was officially released instead. The latter is far more interesting, diverse and experimental. My question is: regarding the Technopop demo, was that all there was?? Or were there other pieces as well? If there is documentation somewhere on the web describing this unfinished project please pass the URL along. Thanks, DJ Compute ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Sueddeutsche Zeitung on Kraftwerk Date: 17 Apr 1999 09:58:41 +0200 Klaus Zaepke wrote: >Todays edition of the Sueddeutsche Zeitung features an essay on Kraftwerk, >Rammstein and Fascism. >The article (German language) is online at >http://www.sueddeutsche.de/aktuell/feuill_e.htm (only today). Please, could anyone be so kind to send me the whole article? Thanks in advance. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean and Karen (and sometimes Duncan)" Subject: (kw) Dorian Gray Date: 17 Apr 1999 07:54:43 -0400 >Weird.... In the early 70s, pre-Oxygene fame, Jean-Michel Jarre = >composed an electronic opera called "Dorian Grey". Can anybody tell me = >who Dorian Grey was/is, and why the discotheque seem to be in related to = >musicians? Was it some sort of pre-techno hangout place? Oh ye gods.. please tell me that you are joking.. If not, then I scold thee for thine lack of literary knowledge. The Picture of Dorian Grey is a book written by Oscar Wilde a gazillion years ago, about a man who had a magical picture (painting) of himself in his closet that aged while he did not.. Its a classic (though in all honesty a piece of drivel).. Anywho, does anyone have the release date for the new Electronic album yet? (Since the KW one is probably not coming out his year) Sean Liddle # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tg97 Subject: (kw) New tracks on soundcheck Date: 17 Apr 1999 11:45:20 -0300 Thanks a lot Klaus, for your link to two unreleased tracks on Roskilde Soundcheck. Nice songs.... but somebody confirm it was really pleayed by KW? The first one sounds sometimes like a DJ track or something like this. If it was played by KW, sounds good for me, because it's really different from previous releases. Maybe they could play anything else The Model and the old stuff. I loved Tango song too... very rave style... Let's wait until the next mellenium... peace Nicolau http://members.xoom.com/kraftworld/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tg97 Subject: (kw) Florian Poems Date: 17 Apr 1999 11:49:12 -0300 All right, the last one: Somebody could tell me a link to get Florian's Poems about A-100. I downloaded it long time ago, but the sound is shit. Thanks in advance Peace Nicolau # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) Tribal 97/Dusseldorf book Date: 17 Apr 1999 18:16:19 +0100 In "From Dusseldorf With Love" Ralf is quoted as saying Tribal Gathering 97 was the best show they'd done. Is there any truth in this? -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) From Dusseldorf 2... Date: 17 Apr 1999 19:55:59 +0100 This book states that in 1974 on the UK branch of the Autobahn they played evrsions of "Showroom Dummies", "Trans Europe" and unreleased song that was sort of like "Kling Klang". can anybody verify or have recordings of these? -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bill Dobiesz" Subject: (kw) Information Date: 17 Apr 1999 21:11:08 -0400 I'm wondering if someone can help me with the following?: 1) What label(s) were the first 4 albums (Tone Float, Kraftwerk, Kraftwerk 2 and Ralf Und Florian) ORIGINALLY released under? Not the boot re-issues, but if I had the original vinyl in my hand, what label would it be? 2) Does anyone have Tone Float around in .MP3 format? TIA, Bill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marc Plainguet" Subject: Re: (kw) "Techno Pop" bootleg CD on eBay. Date: 16 Apr 1999 08:34:47 -0700 -----Original Message----- > > For those of you interested, someone on eBay is currently >auctioning off a KW bootleg CD (on the Gingerbread record label) >that goes by the name "Techno Pop" and contains the following >tracklisting: Sounds like something constructed from all the MP3's available at the virtual technopop site on the net. - Marc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: PD: (kw) Urgent: Contact to owners of Radioaktivitaet/The Vo Date: 14 Apr 1999 18:25:59 +0000 > >>>to check very quickly where I could license one track > >>>from Radioactivity (The Voice of Energy to be exact) > > >will this be a copyright law violation to recreate speech of The Generator ? > > that's by far the best idea. Kraftwerk have no monopoly on the vocoder > sound, Especially since the Kraftwerk track itself is just a straight recreation of Werner Meyer-Eppler's track "The Voice of Power". ;-) > so if you changed the tune and words somewhat you'd be totally > safe, Tune: Yes. (But it's possible that royalties have to be paid anyway.) Words: Not necessarily. Rammstein experienced this when they tried to change the lyrics for "Das Model" some months ago. :-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dirk jan müller" Subject: Re: PD: (kw) Urgent: Contact to owners of Radioaktivitaet/TheVoiceof Energy Date: 13 Apr 1999 08:43:51 CEST >>>>My company is developing PC FPP game and I need >>>>to check very quickly where I could license one track >>>>from Radioactivity (The Voice of Energy to be exact) > >>On the third hand - >>will this be a copyright law violation to recreate speech of The=20 Generator ? > If you use the original recording, you have to get the permission from=20 Kling Klang Verlag which is the publisher. If you do a re-make, you=20 don=B4t need this permission. You just have to pay some royalities to=20 the GEMA (or equivalent in your country) Dirk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alex Brega" Subject: (kw) unrealised tracks (Roskilde soundcheck) Date: 17 Apr 1999 09:45:15 PDT Dear Nicolau, where i can find these unrealised tracks (better if mp3) ? Thanks in advance nicolabrega@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alex Wilson" Subject: (kw) An Opinion of the Warfield Soundboard Recording Date: 15 Apr 1999 18:58:23 PDT Fellow Kraftwerkians- A few weeks ago someone posted an e-mail on the list offering a recording allegedly taken from the soundboard at Kraftwerk's recent concert at the Warfield in San Fransico. My huge concern with this set was that it would be a low-fidelity recording. Despite those misgivings, which I always have when acquiring a recording of this nature, I am happy to report that this is a great product. In fact, the recording is of top-notch quality, and this CD set can be seen as something of a small miracle. It captures very faithfully one of the world's best contributions to music in top form. I find its quality surprising given its origin, and I highly recommend it to any serious Kraftwerk fan. For the several weeks that I've had it, I've listened to it repeatedly, and it never fails to amaze me with how great it is. Except for "Tour de France" and the new track(s), I was already very familiar with all these songs. However, I find myself able to listen to them, without being bored, at a frequency unmatched since the time their songs where new to me. In fact, its almost as if these are new songs, since the timbral selections are so enormous and the arrangements so fresh. For what it's worth, this "review" was not coerced in any way. -Alex Wilson urnak@hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tg97 Subject: (kw) Some different news (not the existence of technopop album) Date: 17 Apr 1999 11:39:44 -0300 Hi! I tried to post it last week, but it returned. It's a little bit outdated, but still works. I know we are having here a "very super interesting" discussion about the existence or not of Technopop album, a never talked topic and with a lot of misterious questions about it, but I would like to put a different topic on the list. Here in Brazil we have a TV show at Bandeirantes Televison (a public channel) called H, presented by Luciano Huck. It's a variety show, with many sketches. One of these sketches has a beautiful and sexy girl called "Tiazinha". She was the cover girl for the last issue of brazilian Playboy magazine. She uses just underware in a SM style, a mask and a whip. It works like a game. Luciano makes several and "very difficult" questions for two guys and, if they don=B4t answer correctely, she takes some wax and take off the hair of their legs (sorry, I don't know the correct word for this... in portuguese it's called depilar... any help?). Slow down Klaus, unfortunately, IT IS KW RELATED!!! The program has a DJ playing live, and the song that plays every time she dances, putting her butt on the camera is BOING BOOM TSCHAK!!! Yes, believe or not!!! Just a sample for the first voices of the song, without the instrumentation. I think it's because the phonetical similarities with the word Boom and one of the portuguese words for butt (bumbum)... So, every single day at 7 or 8 pm, we can hear Kraftwerk many times on brazilian television!!! Followed by a beautiful ass on the screen... hahaha. Who said KW is not on media? For me it=B4s so sad, of course nothing because the nice lady and her backside, but put a KW song to attend a butt dance is the last thing I imagined for the band... I think KW would not agree with it.... well, maybe Florian would really LOVE it!!! More info at: http://www.redeband.com.br/index_hnovo.html H show site http://www.tiazinha.com.br Tiazinha site http://www.playboy.com.br Playboy site (sorry, all in portuguese) By the way, I will write slowly for a perfect understanding: TECHNOPOP ALBUM DID NOT, DO NOT AND WILL NOT EXIST !!!! END. It's a fact! ALL the rest is myth... So please let=B4s talk about other topics... who is interested in technopop album, please check the FAQ. Or private mails, please. Thanks in advance. peace Nicolau http://members.xoom.com/kraftworld/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Weckert Subject: (kw) A new TEE remix? Date: 15 Apr 1999 10:48:48 +0200 A question for the Germans: does anybody know who this female TEE rap = remix did? I am not that good in this genre, it sounds like Schwester S. to = me, the track begins with Metal-On-Metal and runs into TEE- I like it a lot! Mit freundlichem Gru=DF, Thomas Weckert _____________________________________________________________________ BKM Online Medien GmbH Banse, Kandzior, M=FChl = Gesch=E4ftsf=FChrer Krebsgasse 14 - 16 HRB 29104 50667 K=F6ln Amtsgericht = K=F6ln Telefon +49(0)221-272705-0 http://www.bkm.net Telefax +49(0)221-272705-9 mailto:weckert@bkm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk & Soundtracks Date: 19 Apr 1999 00:32:58 +0200 I just found this very interesting at the IMDb: --- Soundtrack Searcher Here are the soundtracks containing Kraftwerk "36 fillette" (1988) "Sex Object" Written by Kraftwerk Performed by Kraftwerk "End of Violence, The" (1997) "Untitled Kraftwerk Song" Written, Performed and Produced by Kraftwerk "Last Angel of History" (1995) (TV) "Man Machine" Performed by Kraftwerk --- We all know, that "The End Of Violence" doesn't contain any piece of Kraftwerk after the final cut of Wim Wenders. But has anybody seen one of the other films? Guresse aus Wien, Georgie (waiting for Kubrick's "Eyes Wide Shut" ;-) ) -- * "Interpol und Deutsche Bank FBI und Scotland Yard CIA and KGB * * control the data memory" (Computerworld) * * Georg Jajus - Vienna - Austria * * * http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * phone & SMS: +436765621850 * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "vig" Subject: (kw) FS & FA: Kraftwerk Pocket Calculator US Promo 12" & Large Synthpop Personal Collection 1000+ titles Date: 18 Apr 1999 22:27:00 -0400 I have the following Kraftwerk item up for auction on eBay: 12" Pocket Caculator US Promo w/ Dentaku Great Custom Picture Sleeve PROA-951 See picture on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=91962083 On my web site I have plenty more Synthpop items and rarities including ABC, A-ha, Marc Almond/Soft Cell, Alphaville, Belouis Some, Beloved, Book Of Love, Boxcar, Camouflage, Cause & Effect, Celebrate The Nun, Cetu Javu, Cure, Depeche Mode, Duran Duran, Echo & The Bunnymen, Erasure/Vince Clarke, Eurythmics/Annie Lennox , Frazier Chorus, Hubert Kah, Information Society, Howard Jones, KLF/JAMMS, Kon Kan, Kraftwerk, Morrissey/Smiths, New Order/Electronic/The Other 2/Revenge, Normal/Silicon Teens, OMD, Pet Shop Boys, Psychedelic Furs/Love Spit Love, Red Box, Red Flag, Secession, When In Rome Yaz(oo)/Alison Moyet and many, many more. Many items are set sale but I will put some items up on eBay as well. New titles will be added to the auction and to the home page weekly. The whole shebang , including ordering/shipping info, starts here: http://home.att.net/~vig/recordh.htm The eBay items can be found at http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=vig@worldne t.att.net If this URL is chopped in your mail reader just copy the whole thing and paste it into your browser. Thanks for looking. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) An Opinion of the Warfield Soundboard Recording Date: 19 Apr 1999 00:59:50 EDT In a message dated 4/18/99 2:35:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, urnak@hotmail.com writes: << I find its quality surprising given its origin, and I highly recommend it to any serious Kraftwerk fan. >> I also have this cd and agree....could not be happier with it.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rafa" Subject: (kw) The Boy-Machine Date: 19 Apr 1999 07:36:23 +0200 Hi all! I see that our Friends are still in their "cryogenic-dummy" chambers since their last 98 tour... :-( Well, how I can't write any news about them, at least I'll write about another genious... The other day I listened some comments about the unfinished Kubrick's project "A.I" (Artificial Inteligence). He was working in this epic scince fiction project since 80's. In 1991 he renounced to the project due to inviability for produce some synthetic images for this film. In 1993, after be greatly impressed for "Jurassic Park" visual technology he decided continue with "A.I.". In 1995 WIRED magazine confirmed that the script of the film was based in a Brian W. Aldiss short story titled "Super-Toys Last All Summer Long" (1969). It is about a little robot boy and his toy, a robotic teddy bear. The boy doesn't know himself is a machine... You can read this nice story here http://www.hotwired.com/collections/robots_ai/5.01_super_toys1.html and a translation to spanish here http://www.civila.com/hispania/kubrick/futuro/toys.htm Reading this tale I think that Kubrick could be done again (remember "2001 A Space Odyssey") a very, very interesting metaphysical science fiction work. Maybe another master work, but... ...unfortunately we lost this genius forever... Thanks for your work Stanley. HEY, Ralf and Florian, if you are there... please let us enjoy your musik, the life is too short... and remember that the majority of us don't have got a "cryogenic-dummy" chamber (yet) ;-) Rafa # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Ivaschenko Subject: Re: (kw) An Opinion of the Warfield Soundboard Recording Date: 19 Apr 1999 12:46:56 +0400 Alex Wilson wrote: > FFor the several weeks that I've had it, I've listened to it > repeatedly, and it never fails to amaze me with how great it is. > Except for "Tour de France" and the new track(s), I was already very > familiar with all these songs. However, I find myself able to listen > to them, without being bored, at a frequency unmatched since the time > their songs where new to me. In fact, its almost as if these are new Where can I get it? Can anyone convert it into MP3? Pleeease ! -- Best Regards Vladimir Ivaschenko http://www.hazard.maks.net/~hazard # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Henrik Olsson Subject: Re: (kw) Dorian Grey Date: 19 Apr 1999 14:36:43 -0500 Didn't Vince Clark write a song called "The Face of Dorian Grey" in the time between Depeche and Erasure ? /Henrik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Origin of the name "Techno pop"? Date: 19 Apr 1999 10:39:17 +0200 J.Garcia wrote: >That's why I originally posted my question, to see if anybody had >any initial date of the term being used. Aviador Dro afirm they >invented that term in late 1979. The following is quoted from the Pascal Bussy's book Man, Machine and Music: "The LP's title ("Techno pop") had been taken from a description of the group's music by Paul Alessandrini. (The original title had actually been "Technicolor" but being a registered trademark they couldn't use it)." BTW, there is a heavy metal band called Stratovarius. I wonder if this has got to do with Kraftwerk or it's for the type of violin. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Wolfgang Fluer & Joachim Witt Date: 19 Apr 1999 18:14:32 +0000 Wolfgang Fluer contributed a remix to Joachim Witt's new single "Das geht tief", Epic epc 667032 2. Tracklisting: 1. Das geht tief (Radio-Mischung) 4:19" 2. Das geht tief (Delgado-Mischung) 4:16" 3. Das geht tief (Wolfgang-Fluer-Mischung) 6:22" 4. Das geht tief (Album-Version) 5:28" Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom807@aol.com Subject: (kw) An Opinion of the Warfield Soundboard Recording Date: 19 Apr 1999 14:05:15 EDT I received this CD a couple of weeks ago -- it is a nearly perfect recording of the entire 1998 show. Boing!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DepecheCBI@aol.com Subject: (kw) Wolfgang remixed WITT Date: 19 Apr 1999 14:08:17 EDT Hi! Found at the "grenzwellen"-mailing-list: =20 > WITT Das geht tief Zeitbombe/Epic/Sony M. MCD > Hi, > diese Maxi hat ein neues Cover und eine neue Tracklist. Darauf zu finden: > 1. Videoversion > 2. Gabi Delgado-Remix > 3. Wolfgang Fl=FCr-Remix ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > 4. Albumversion MfG Carsten Bolte. Kiel. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DepecheCBI@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Wolfgang Fluer & Joachim Witt Date: 19 Apr 1999 14:13:02 EDT > Wolfgang Fluer contributed a remix to Joachim Witt's new single "Das=20 > geht tief", Epic epc 667032 2. > =20 > Tracklisting: > 1. Das geht tief (Radio-Mischung) 4:19" > 2. Das geht tief (Delgado-Mischung) 4:16" > 3. Das geht tief (Wolfgang-Fluer-Mischung) 6:22" > 4. Das geht tief (Album-Version) 5:28" > =20 > Klaus Zaepke Huch! Tja,doppelt h=E4lt besser ;) Carsten Bolte. Kiel. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "vig" Subject: (kw) FA: Pocket Calculator US Promo 12" in cool custom sleeve Date: 19 Apr 1999 15:27:31 -0400 Thanks to those who ordered from my post last week. My list is still up at: http://home.att.net/~vig/recordh.htm I have the following item currently up at eBay with a picture. The auction ends Friday the 23rd. I will be putting more of the eBay items from my list up on eBay when the current auctions end. Kraftwerk - Pocket Calculator US Promo 12" in a very, very cool promo only sleeve http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=91962083 Thanks for looking David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: stratovarius RE: (kw) Origin of the name "Techno pop"? Date: 19 Apr 1999 16:35:49 -0600 At 10:39 AM 4/19/99 +0200, you wrote: >BTW, there is a heavy metal band called Stratovarius. I wonder if this has >got to do with Kraftwerk or it's for the type of violin. > >DER AUTOMAT STRATOcaster is a type of (electric) guitar stradiVARIUS is a violin built by the guy of the same name, known as the most perfect and priceless violin(s) in the world i don't know how many, but very few, maybe even only one exist. lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: Re: stratovarius RE: (kw) Origin of the name "Techno pop"? Date: 19 Apr 1999 18:08:26 47 <47@radiolink.net> >stradiVARIUS is a violin built by the guy of the same name, known >as the most perfect and priceless violin(s) in the world i don't >know how many, but very few, maybe even only one exist. Sort of like the "Techno Pop" LP, isn't it? ;-) -- nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." #Kraftwerk, IRC's DALnet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tg97 Subject: (kw) Funny KW Date: 19 Apr 1999 22:56:28 -0300 Just two more adds to my funny KW at brazilian media: 1. The song Home Computer was used in 1981 on the soundtrack for a brazilian soap opera called Brilhante (Diamond). A part of the song was used for the commercial breaks and is not included on official soundtrack disc (probably to don't pay royalties). Some copies of CW first issue have this stamp: HOME COMPUTER TEMA DE BRILHANTE (Home Computer, theme from Brilhante) 2. Still in 1981, the TV propaganda of a brick company called Jucel have Kometenmelodie 2 in its soundtrack. I don't believe KW received a single buck of royalties for the use of their songs, but it's really curious. peace Nicolau # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Holton Subject: (kw) Cool Picture Date: 20 Apr 1999 09:19:27 +0100 Thanks for putting up the picture discussed last digest. One thing that doesn't seem to get mentioned that often on the list is = that they are as cool as fuck our favourites aren't they? That is going straight onto my pc as backdrop Dave =A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3= =A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3= =A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3= =A3=A3=A3=A3 =A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3 If you are the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person) , and you injure yourself in any way whilst trying to say "Ken Dodd's Dad's dog's dead" you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone or sue the = sender. In such case, you should destroy this message, and notify us = immediately.=20 =A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3= =A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3= =A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peder Livijn" Subject: (kw) KW on TV-Shows in Sweden Date: 20 Apr 1999 02:09:35 PDT Hi all Lately it seems to be very interesting to talk about all the TV-shows using KW music without asking first - Soo, i thought that you all might be VERY interested in knowing that EVERY time Swedish television airs a scientific show, the soundtrack is either The Robots or Radioactivity or any other KW-song. Slut, Klart slut. Peder ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: stratovarius RE: (kw) Origin of the name "Techno pop"? Date: 20 Apr 1999 13:51:51 +0200 > stradiVARIUS is a violin built by the guy of the same name, known as the > most perfect and priceless violin(s) in the world i don't know how many, > but very few, maybe even only one exist. they are indeed very rare and expensive, but they surely are more than one, I'll say some dozen. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: Stratovarius (was: (kw) Origin of the name "Techno pop") Date: 20 Apr 1999 15:41:22 +0200 >>BTW, there is a heavy metal band called Stratovarius. I wonder if this has >>got to do with Kraftwerk or it's for the type of violin. >> >STRATOcaster is a type of (electric) guitar > >stradiVARIUS is a violin built by the guy of the same name, known as the >most perfect and priceless violin(s) in the world i don't know how many, >but very few, maybe even only one exist. Therefore the name of the heavy metal band Stratovarius is refered to Kraftwerk song. ;-? DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "josirene" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk: "KRAFTWERK" (double-album) Date: 20 Apr 1999 17:28:41 +0200 Hello, I used to be very much into Kraftwerk a long time ago and from that time I still have a lot of records by them. I don't listen so much to them anymore. One of the records just "stands" beteen my other records, without being played. If you are interested in it, please let me know. It is this one: Kraftwerk: "KRAFTWERK" It is a double album from 1972 on the Vertigo-label. The sleeve is black with blue soundwaves on it. The sleeve can be folded open. Opened, it shows pictures of Hutter, Plank & Schneider. There are 10 titles on it, most of them appaered later on "AUTOBAHN". The titles of this album are: Ruckzack Stratovarius Megaherz Von Himmel Hoch Klingklang Atem Strom Spule Wellenlange Harmonika The quality of the records is good, the sleeve is reasonable. If you are interested in this rare record, e-mail me. josirene@stad.dsl.nl Jos # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kent.Pendleton@choicepointinc.com Subject: (kw) Re: Out of office Date: 20 Apr 1999 12:16:09 -0400 I really apologize to anyone on these mailing lists for spamming you about being out of the office. It was unintentional. Isn't technology great? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peeters Ivo" Subject: Re: (kw) Information Date: 20 Apr 1999 19:52:09 +0200 -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Bill Dobiesz Aan: Kraftwerk Datum: zondag 18 april 1999 3:09 Onderwerp: (kw) Information > >I'm wondering if someone can help me with the following?: > >1) What label(s) were the first 4 albums (Tone Float, Kraftwerk, Kraftwerk 2 >and Ralf Und Florian) ORIGINALLY released under? Not the boot re-issues, >but if I had the original vinyl in my hand, what label would it be? > Tone float on RCA Victor SF 8111 KW, KW2 and Ralf und Florian on Philips (Vertigo in UK). Ivo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peeters Ivo" Subject: Re: (kw) Dorian Grey Date: 20 Apr 1999 19:52:16 +0200 -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Henrik Olsson Aan: Der Automat ; lbo CC: kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com Datum: maandag 19 april 1999 14:39 Onderwerp: Re: (kw) Dorian Grey > >Didn't Vince Clark write a song called "The Face of Dorian Grey" in the time >between Depeche and Erasure ? > >/Henrik "The face of Dorian Gray" was released by Robert Marlow in 1983. It was not written by Vince Clarke but by Marlow. Vince Clarke produced it together with E.C. Radcliffe. Ivo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HigbyHogan@aol.com Subject: (kw) The stylings of Ralf & Florian hijacked to TV Date: 20 Apr 1999 14:03:20 EDT Here in the USA we have an educational science show on the Public Broadcasting Service (arts/education; subsidized by the government [but not for long if Jesse Helms and his truffle hunting ilk get their way!]) called NEWTON'S APPLE. For years the theme song to the program was RUCKZUCK from the album KRAFTWERK. There was never any credit given to KW, which I though was odd, as this was a nationally syndicated program. Some years on, the music was replaced by a very precise cover version of the song, the the subtle difference would probably only be noticed by an ear familiar with the band. Still, no credit given. Ralf, regarding sampling: "It depends. If it is a DJ record, a special record, a small bit... If it is a long bit, it's copyright. If someone takes a special sound, there's the copyright, and the publishing company have to deal with it." (excerpt from Pascal Bussy's MAN MACHINE AND MUSIC) My impression is that KW doesn't overly concern themselves with the dull legalities of the business. If millions of people are exposed to a cut from an early album on a regular basis, all the better- but credit where due is nice, too. A little note: my girlfriend, who is given to mocking me for my interest in the Fab Vier, is a big fan of Lloyd Cole. Recently he divulged what he's been listening to lately, on his mailing list, which she receives- COMPUTER WORLD, one of his favorite albums! She's beginning to understand that the appeal of KW is truly universal, complementing all tastes and styles. They are classic. don't get oversampled, Higby. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: Re: (kw) The stylings of Ralf & Florian hijacked to TV Date: 20 Apr 1999 14:22:08 HigbyHogan@aol.com wrote: >NEWTON'S APPLE. For years the theme song to the program was >RUCKZUCK from the album KRAFTWERK. There was never any credit >given to KW, which I though was odd, as this was a nationally >syndicated program. Some years on, the music was replaced by a >very precise cover version of the song, the the subtle difference >would probably only be noticed by an ear familiar with the band. >Still, no credit given. Just as a side note, these days Newton's Apple has brand new theme music and no longer uses "Ruckzuck" in any incarnation whatsoever. I for one miss it. I have fond memories of watching public television as a child and having that theme music etched into my brain. It wasn't until many years later that I stumbled across an intriguing German band named Kraftwerk, and upon playing their self-titled album (1970) got an interesting surprise. :) nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." #Kraftwerk, IRC's DALnet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Lopez Van dam Subject: (kw) Hello to you all Date: 20 Apr 1999 15:50:24 -0300 (ART) Hello !!!!!!! My name is Laura (Robotika)and I'd like to introduce myself to you all in the list. I would also like to begin with a comment about that copyright stuff. Here in Argentina there is a guy who dared to make a horrible version of "Das Model". I suspect this guy payed no royalties, and I want him to suffer for the damage he has done to KW name. The name of this criminal is Claudio "La Clota" Lanzetta. He also made other versions such as a vomit remix of "Bizarre Love Triangle". Believe me he really KILLED the songs! Kisses. Laura # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Johnson Subject: (kw) From Dusseldorf book - question... Date: 20 Apr 1999 12:34:13 -0700 Back on Saturday, Mark Reed asked... "The book states that on the UK branch of the 1974 "Autobahn" tour Kraftwerk played versions of "Showroom Dummies", "Trans Europe Express" and an unreleased song that was sort of like "Kling Klang". Anybody have tapes of these?" While not including any of the above mentioned tunes, I have a tape of a concert reportedly taped in London during that tour. While they only played a few songs from that concert on the radio show I taped it from, during the middle improvisational section of "Mitternacht", the beginning riff of "Radioactivity" can be clearly discerned! The info I have on the recording is below. Autobahn (incomplete) Ruckzuck (incomplete, ending cut) Mitternacht (with beginning of a "Radioactivity" riff!) (all approx. 23:20) Recorded "Live in London" (either at the Hammersmith Odeon Saturday, Sept 20, 1975, or at Festival Hall, Monday, September 1, 1975) From "Rock Around The World", Show #75, Sunday, January 11, 1976 With Ralf Hutter (keyboards, left channel), Karl Bartos (percussion, left channel), Wolfgang Flur (percussion, right channel), Florian Schneider (keyboards, right channel) Source: audio cassette of over-the-air FM broadcast (Seattle, Wa, KISW-FM 99.9) Other "Rock Around the World" references (courtesy www.ratw.com), all Sundays Show 23, January 12, 1975, music played Show 38, April 27, 1975, Interview! Show 48, July 6, 1975, music played Show 75, January 11, 1976, London concert above Hope this helps! -Keith Johnson kj@gmnameplate.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: (kw) Robots and Computers (dubiously on topic) Date: 21 Apr 1999 12:17:19 +0100 Anyone got the sample CD 'Robots and Computers'? and/or 'Xtortion' Mail me if so please, Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alex Brega" Subject: (kw) MP3 (1998 live recordings) Date: 21 Apr 1999 11:25:32 PDT I'm searching the web for mp3 files concerning the last tour,especially Linz,Roskilde,Barcelona, and America. There's someone that know good url (also ftp) where I (and a lot of our Kw fans that receive mailing list) can download mp3 ? I already know Media Center and Tour de Kraft. I have a lot of material that I can change. nicolabrega@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nelleman@biobase.dk Subject: (kw) MP3 (1998 live recordings) Date: 21 Apr 1999 23:50:05 +0100 (WET DST) I'm searching the web for mp3 files concerning > the last tour,especially Linz,Roskilde,Barcelona, > and America. > There's someone that know good url (also ftp) where > I (and a lot of our Kw fans that receive mailing list) > can download mp3 ? Check out this page: http://www.image.dk/~biotech4/kw/ No downloads I'm afraid, but all the shows you ask for is available. Lars -- ******************************************************************** * Lars Nellemann * I'm confused - Like a thirsty * * nelleman@biobase.dk * baby in a topless bar ! * * Royal Veterinary & Agricultural * * * University * * ******************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Hi you all Date: 21 Apr 1999 15:22:17 -0700 My name is Enrique and I'm new to the list. Ever since I was 11 years old, Kraftwerk and everything about them became part of the air I breathe . I'm 33 now and I still remember how bad I wanted a band to sound just like Giorgio Moroder's "From here to eternity"... KW satisfied that need... and how !!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dirk jan müller" Subject: (kw) wunder der technik Date: 22 Apr 1999 09:38:57 CEST concerning copyrights: Our latest 12" record (which is a electro-track, some people say it=20 sounds like KW...) BLOOP "Wunder der Technik" got Ralf H=FCtter speaking=20 the title of the song at one break in the middle. People seem very=20 confused everytime this speak appears...Don=B4t know why. And...what do you think of changing the topic on the list to some more=20 interesting. I think it became a little boring the last time. Dirk This mail comes from Dirk Jan M=FCller, Germany Electric Orange (Delerium Records, London) Bloop (Synchronicity Records, Frankfurt) Check out the ELECTRIC ORANGE Homepage. http://www.delerium.co.uk/delerium/bandsite/elec_top.html Reissue of 1st Album available soon (with bonus CD) New BLOOP 12" -Wunder der Technik- available now! New CD/DLP -Schallaufnahmen- will be released in April! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nelleman@biobase.dk Subject: (kw) Synthpop tributes Date: 22 Apr 1999 17:19:00 +0100 (WET DST) Hi I bought this compilation called: An electronica tribute to the 80s today. And found that it contained many covers of my favourite bands Like New Order, Erasure, Depeche Mode, Kraftwerk etc. The tracklists are listed below, and the cover states the following addresses for ordering. Hypnotic is a division of Cleopatra. their site lists other tribute CS like The New Order "Blue Order Trance tribute", 3 Depeche mode tributes and a Jarre tribute - and I guess it's from this label we'll see a Erasure tribute shortly. http://www.hypnotic.dk/main/newreleases.htm http://www.hypnotic.dk/recordshtm/reinventingthe80svol2.htm http://www.hypnotic.dk/recordshtm/80s.htm "A Trance Tribute To The 80's" 1. Bypass Unit - "Don't Go" 2. Allshiners - "Tainted Love" 3. Executor - "Fade To Gray" 4. Flipside feat. Liva Akselbo - "Blue Monday" 5. Blunt - "Girls On Film" 6. Giez - "Vienna" 7. Bioreactor - "Don't You Want Me" 8. Longhorn - "Enola Gay" 9. Latex Empire - "Sweet Dreams" 10. Klassix - "West End Girls" 11. Controlled Fusion - "You" 12. Interfaith - "Tour De France" 13. Coercion - "Cars" "Reinventing The 80's Vol. 2" 1. automatic - "sweet dreams" 2. infam - "chorus" 3. apoptygma berzerk - "electricity" 4. good courage - "a question of time" 5. lefther strip - "lullaby" 6. mortal memories - "living on the ceiling" 7. arcane passage - "mirror man" 8. judson leach - "bizarre love triangle" 9. nova - "planet earth" 10. the element - "relax" 11. meedom & wind - "computer world" -- ******************************************************************** * Lars Nellemann * I'm confused - Like a thirsty * * nelleman@biobase.dk * baby in a topless bar ! * * Royal Veterinary & Agricultural * * * University * * ******************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rahan" Subject: (kw) Re: Synthpop tributes Date: 22 Apr 1999 12:33:10 -0400 > I bought this compilation called: > An electronica tribute to the 80s today. > > And found that it contained many covers of my favourite bands > Like New Order, Erasure, Depeche Mode, Kraftwerk etc. > > The tracklists are listed below, and the cover > states the following addresses for ordering. Hi Lars, Those are some great tracks; this compilation sounds interesting--but could you give us an opinion as to how these versions sound? Is it truly electronica style? How "poppy" are the versions, and how's the erasure cover? Are these the people who gave us the trance tributes to New Order & DM? I heard those and was disappointed. -rAHAN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas W." Subject: (kw) nab's robotika Date: 22 Apr 1999 20:37:53 +0200 "I want to be a machine" said Andy Warhol in the sixties, when the machine art was in advance. I know, it's not Kraftwerk related, but the web page of Nicolas Anatol Baginsky, a German robot artist from Hamburg, is pretty interesting, because in Baginsky's music, the robots really DO the music. See his web site and robots at: http://www.provi.de/~nab/ Thomas. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: (kw) Re: Synthpop tributes Date: 23 Apr 1999 00:25:59 +0200 > > Those are some great tracks; this compilation sounds interesting--but could > you give us an opinion as to how these versions sound? Is it truly > electronica style? No, more like electro-pop, some of them are a bit industrial though. >How "poppy" are the versions, and how's the erasure > cover? The Erasure cover is not good. > Are these the people who gave us the trance tributes to New Order & > DM? I heard those and was disappointed. Yes they are Lars > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (kw) PictOf KW I NeverSeenBefore Date: 22 Apr 1999 21:06:11 -0600 On Wed, Apr 14, 1999 at 03:20:15PM +0100, johan.andersson@allers.aller.se wrote: > For me he looks a bit like a childish Iggy Pop - but I don't know Hmm, I think you may be right. "Meet Iggy Pop / And David Bowie" (who both had a "Berlin" phase in the mid-1970s, which would also explain the shoes). -- Lazlo Nibble - lazlo@studio-nibble.com - http://www.studio-nibble.com this message powered by air - sexy boy -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) KW:s new album-cover? Date: 23 Apr 1999 15:38:14 +0100 I found a nice picture on the net that I thought would be a=20= perfect cover picture for the boys never coming new album=2E Of course I had to add some of my own ideas to it, please=20= let me know what you think of it, if you think it would be a=20= suitable cover for a KW album with an internet-concept=2E You'll find it at: http://members=2Etripod=2Ecom/~KlingKlang/nummweltcover=2Ehtml Regards/Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Compute" Subject: (kw) Ralf on Daft Punk website Date: 23 Apr 1999 13:47:02 GMT Hi everybody, Please pardon me if this isn't news to everyone. But for those who are not aware, you'll definitely find it rather interesting. I was browsing around at www.daftpunk.com yesterday. Their entire site consists of really neat shockwave presentations. They have a unique shockwave presentation for each song on Daft Punk's Homework album. For "Teachers" they play the first half of the song, with rotating images of various musicians, and one of those I believe is everyone's friend Ralf Hutter. I'm pretty sure it's him, but the picture is very dilated so I had my doubts. Check out the "Teachers" shockwave clip at: http://www.daftpunk.com/9.html Further to that, I'm wondering if anybody knows if Ralf is mentioned in the lyrics of "Teachers" (or Kraftwerk or something to that effect) As those who are familiar with the song know, the lyrics are a little bit distorted and are hard to understand. All I know is that they rhyme off all these musicians and DJ's names stating that each and every one of them is "in the house". Here's a thought, anyone know why the song is called Teachers?? Let's not get too far off topic on the list with this one though, O.K.?? DJ Compute ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bill Dobiesz" Subject: Fw: (kw) KW:s new album-cover? Date: 23 Apr 1999 10:10:10 -0400 >I found a nice picture on the net that I thought would be a perfect cover picture for the >boys never coming new album. >Of course I had to add some of my own ideas to it, please let me know what you think >of it, if you think it would be a suitable cover for a KW album with an internet-concept. I think it's pretty cool...but what does "nummweltverschmutzung" mean? My knowledge of Deustch isn't that good. Huggy Bear np: Da Yoopers - Me And My Frog # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matsk@lhmendez.se Subject: Re: (kw) Ralf on Daft Punk website Date: 23 Apr 1999 16:51:03 +0200 It's true that it's a member of KW, but it is Florian rather than Ralf, quite cool weebpage! --- Mats Kadmark L&H Mendez Sweden AB (a subsidiary of Lernout & Hauspie Speech Products N.V.) Phone +46 31-775 60 80 (operator) +46 31-775 61 10 (direct) +46 707-34 23 22 (mobile) Fax +46 31 775 60 81 E-mail matsk@lhmendez.se www http://www.lhmendez.se/ Address F=F6rsta L=E5nggatan 30, S-413 27 G=F6teborg, Sweden = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Young Subject: (kw) nummweltverschmutzung Date: 23 Apr 1999 09:06:42 -0700 (PDT) --- Bill Dobiesz wrote: > I think it's pretty cool...but what does > "nummweltverschmutzung" mean? It's a variation of "Umweltsverschmutzung," which is pollution (literally "environment dirtying"). Maybe also a play on "Nummern," the Computerwelt track. Jeff _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Young Subject: (kw) nummweltverschmutzung Date: 23 Apr 1999 09:49:40 -0700 (PDT) > It's a variation of "Umweltsverschmutzung," which is > pollution (literally "environment dirtying"). Maybe > also a play on "Nummern," the Computerwelt track. > > Jeff OK, OK, before I'm corrected (a certainty on this list), an "s" slipped in there erroneously. It's "Umweltverschmutzung." Jeff _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TiMeZeRo Subject: (kw) ralf.hutter@kraftwerk.com Date: 21 Apr 1999 18:55:22 +0200 RALF.HUTTER@KRAFTWERK.COM Hm this mail is registrated. Hmm but i can guess that know one use it. Daniel _///__ From Daniel Mark at / o o \ TiMeZeRo@HoMe.Se \ (___) / \_____/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik J. Eid" Subject: (kw) KW in theme music Date: 23 Apr 1999 21:24:23 -0400 Mention has been made of "Newton's Apple", a long-running PBS show, regarding the use of Kraftwerk songs for theme music. Does anyone remember the show "Bits & Bytes", which aired on both PBS and CBC, from the mid-80s? It was a show that introduced computers (in the 8-bit days of the Atari 800, Commodore 64, and Apple ][), the concepts of RAM, ROM, CPU, a host of other acronyms, and some applications like word processors. I vaguely remember (I was a young child then) that the theme was very synthetic sounding. Could it have been another Kraftwerk tune? If anyone does know what the theme for "Bits & Bytes" was, please post it on the list. Thanks! P.S. I never understood just how appropriate "Autobahn" is for driving until I was returning home tonight, driving along M-14, watching a big yellow sun set below a clear sky. Wow. . . \_ +\_ + o_-/ . O . \-_o -=/- . . . . \=// . ---------\_______ ||O ___.______ /* Erik Eid */ \____||L/\_____/ /* eeid@wwnet.net */_______________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mischoulon@aol.com Subject: (kw) Warfield Soundboard Date: 24 Apr 1999 09:57:47 EDT Let me add my name to the list of people who think the Warfield Soundboard bootleg is fantastic! I just got my copy yesterday. The sound is so crisp and clear, it's like having the boys in your living room. Even the disc colors/design are appropriately Kraftwerkian (black, with computer lettering)! David M # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bill Dobiesz" Subject: Fw: (kw) nummweltverschmutzung Date: 24 Apr 1999 10:31:48 -0400 >It's a variation of "Umweltsverschmutzung," which is >pollution (literally "environment dirtying"). Maybe >also a play on "Nummern," the Computerwelt track. No offense intended to any list members...but after listening to more KW, particularly KW1, KW2 and R&F, and remembering it was said how they felt that these were not very good (their opinion, NOT mine!), and listening to Les Mannequins (where the song is in French, but the first four words are in German), I almost think a German translation of "Hoplessly German" would be appropriate. If they were an American (or Canadian or UK, probably) group, they would have so many re-releases, compilations, box sets...all this stuff that goes around the world as boots would be legitimate releases, getting royalties for the group and very probably new fans...BUT NO, they fit the "perfectionist" stereotype perfectly. And I still don't have TDF in my collection, any version or any format. :-( Huggy Bear np: Da Yoopers - Vampire Surfin' Girls From Munising Bay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John B. Morgan" Subject: Re: (kw) KW in theme music Date: 24 Apr 1999 12:03:35 -0400 (EDT) I remember watching this show as a kid, and the title song was indeed electronic. I never thought about it before, but now that I do, I think that there may indeed be a Kraftwerk connection. The music I hear in my head as I cast my mind back sounds a lot like an excerpt from the purely electronic sections (no Ralf) of "Neon Lights." I'm not 100% sure, as it's been about 15 years since I last saw "Bits & Bytes," but there's a strong possibility. > On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Erik J. Eid wrote: > > Does anyone remember the show "Bits & Bytes", which aired on both PBS and > > CBC, from the mid-80s? It was a show that introduced computers (in the > > 8-bit days of the Atari 800, Commodore 64, and Apple ][), the concepts of > > RAM, ROM, CPU, a host of other acronyms, and some applications like word > > processors. I vaguely remember (I was a young child then) that the theme > > was very synthetic sounding. Could it have been another Kraftwerk tune? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JMJ Fanklubb Norge" Subject: (kw) Spacelab in Oslo Date: 24 Apr 1999 16:57:29 +0200 Hey, In Oslo there is a shop called Spacelab. I think they sell army clothes. = How's that for KW-related info? :-) Jarre forever!=20 Glenn Jean-Michel Jarre Fanklubb Norge Lundgard, 2032 Maura (Norway) Mail to glenn@jmjfkn.com Surf to www.jmjfkn.com Organiser of the international JMJ tribute album Publisher of IMAGES magazine since 1993 JarreArt www.itsahit.com/jarreart/ =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) kraftwerk rumour Date: 24 Apr 1999 05:24:20 +0100 My brother had this sent to him. Probably b/s but funny anyway. KRAFTWERK / PRODIGY RUCK KRAFTWERK ISSUE PUBLIC STATEMENT Following the following statement by Liam Howlett: "Kraftwerk? Fuck 'em. I was more into hip hop things like Grandmaster Flash. We are the robots? What the fuck is that? It's like that fuckin' Gary Numan. Fuck 'em" In Response to this Kraftwerk challenged Liam Howlett to a "ruck" in otder to sort it all out at an unnamed location. Liam, as expected, responded but did not have the bottle to fight, instead choosing to scour the shops of Dusseldorf for obscure 80's hip hop 12"'s on which to base his next single and also to check out some retro 80's trainer shops. Keith Flint however, as expected, responded with enthusiasm as the self proclaimed "Damage Disruptah!". Kraftwerk however, were expected to field the new T-1000 model robots, perfectly designed to emulate all 4 members of the band in all situation, hence maintaining the Kraftwerk lineage above and beyond the natural lifespan. Although the duel was conducted in terms of secrecy It appears the Keith Flint, when faced with the T-1000 model robots, attacked die-Hutter-maschinen, intent on depriving Kraftwerk of Vital Coffee-Energy Supplies upon which the T-1000 models are entirely dependent, and depriving Kraftwerk also of it's nerve centre and muscle co-ordination as honed by years of fanatical cycling. In a unpredictable move, the shaven headed die-Schneider-maschinen responded by hitting Kieth Fline with a pocket calculator, pressing down a special key that plays a little melody, whilst die-Schmidt-maschinen and die-Henning-maschinen remained motionless throughout the event, like showroom dummies, or automaton drones awaiting orders from the higher hive mind. Keith Flint, unaccustomed to a machine pummeling seven shades of shit out of him rather than the other way rounf, responded "This is Dangerous!" and scarpered like the cartoon punk that he is. When contacted regarding the incident the Prodigy responded "No comment." When contacted a spokesman for Kraftwerk at the Kling Klang Studio responded , in a strangely vocodered voice in a slight duseeldorf accent, "Wir sind Kraftwerk. Wir Sind die Roboter." Message Ends. -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marc Houle Subject: (kw) GROUP TECHNO POP Date: 23 Apr 1999 18:46:02 -0400 Hello..... I was wondering if i could get some names and albums of some good techno-pop bands. (Techno-pop as in the first drum beat of OMD's enola gay). ======================= marc houle m@rchoule.com REDCHALK I.S. ======================= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Stagg Subject: (kw) Ann Nightingale on Kraftwerk Date: 24 Apr 1999 12:24:53 -0400 There's a great quote from UK DJ Ann Nightingale in this week's TV listin= gs magazine "The Radio Times" on the first time she heard Kraftwerk: "I thought, this is like the nuclear bomb... it cannot be uninvented." = Staggman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. D." Subject: (kw) German Music on CNN tonight! Date: 24 Apr 1999 16:33:52 -0700 (PDT) A part of the CNN program "World Beat" will be on _German Music_ tonight (SUN APR 25 12:00 AM - 12:30 AM for me). I'll be watching just in case they show *something* that is Kraftwerk related... === Roger. rd411@yahoo.com Regor@webtv.net _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) KW in theme music Date: 25 Apr 1999 17:57:10 +0500 On 24-Apr-99, John B. Morgan wrote: >I remember watching this show as a kid, and the title song was indeed >electronic. I never thought about it before, but now that I do, I think >that there may indeed be a Kraftwerk connection. The music I hear in my >head as I cast my mind back sounds a lot like an excerpt from the purely >electronic sections (no Ralf) of "Neon Lights." (re-replying just in case-- my computer froze up as I was replying to this thread) Yes, I remember a PBS show whose theme song was a shameless ripoff of 'Neon Lights'-- the lyrics began: 'Patterns of liiiiight...' There was also a British show called 'The Computer Programme', whose theme song was 'Computerworld'. -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: RE: (kw) KW:s new album-cover? Date: 26 Apr 1999 11:30:30 +0100 Huggy Bear wrote: I think it's pretty cool=2E=2E=2Ebut what does "nummweltverschmutzung" mean? My knowledge of Deustch isn't that good=2E Well for me it's obvious that IF that word is used by KW for their new album or for a single track, it means that the world now is polluted by numbers by the internet numm=3Dnumbers, umweltverschmutzung=3Dworld pollution I think it's a genial play with words and very KW:ish I hope they'll use it! / Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tanger" Subject: (kw) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 00:05:32 +0200 Date: 26 Apr 1999 16:05:29 -0600 would anyone on this list be so kind as to post links to mp3s with Roskilde and Linz new songs? thank u in advance! tanger ----------------- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ----------------- Szybka w sciaganiu, animowana, interaktywna, z muzyka i efektami dzwiekowymi.... Zobacz jak moze wygladac strona WWW: http://www.webdesign.pl/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NeXTcube" Subject: (kw) Warfield... Me too... Date: 26 Jan 1999 19:58:55 -0500 I got my Warfield LIVE Kraftwerk today too.... and it's the best LIVE CD I've heard in a long time.... I love LIVE CDs, but the quality usually is lousy.... This one gives you all the excitement of being there! I give it a 9.5/10 Gary # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Compute" Subject: Re: (kw) FLORIAN not RALF Date: 27 Apr 1999 01:59:21 GMT I couldn't make out "Fritz Hilpert" in the song "Teachers" by Daft Punk. Are you sure? What names are before and after Fritz'? DJ Compute > >You were right about the mention in the song. I can clearly hear "Fritz >Hilpert" being mentioned. He is one of the sound engineers that Florian >& Ralf use. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: m Subject: RE: (kw) nummweltverschmutzung Date: 26 Apr 1999 22:39:18 -0400 hi, In the Linz's concert (CD Lichtgestalten of Oct 16 1997) appear this name for the song that all know as "Tribal" (Then Which is the real name? --> "Tribal" or "nummweltverschmutzung"?) Also Appear in it, the 3rd new song as "LICHTHOF" This CD is a KlingKlang Produkt. Then the name "Tribal" is not Correct? Regards, Mauricio Gonzalez # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) nummweltverschmutzung Date: 27 Apr 1999 07:56:54 +0200 At this stage there are no official names as there are no official recordings of these songs. Anyone can make a bootleg and print Kling Klang on it. /Joakim -----Original Message----- ...Which is the real name? --> "Tribal" or "nummweltverschmutzung"?) Also Appear in it, the 3rd new song as "LICHTHOF" This CD is a KlingKlang Produkt.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Stann Subject: RE: (kw) nummweltverschmutzung Date: 27 Apr 1999 08:12:04 -0500 >At this stage there are no official names as there are no official >recordings of these songs. Anyone can make a bootleg and print Kling = Klang >on it. > >/Joakim Not quite. Kling Klang is a copyrighted name, as is Kraftwerk. A = recording does not have to be "official", or released, for the band to = own rights to it. Anyone CAN make a bootleg, call it whatever they want. That would not = mean such action would be legal or without repercussions. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Mobile Homes: "There is No..." Date: 28 Apr 1999 20:49:38 +0000 I've spotted the following CD on a saleslist: Mobile Homes: "There is No... (Best Of)" The content is described as "Best of 86-94, incl. previously unreleased material". Does anyone know if some of this "new" material features Karl Bartos / Elektric Music? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Bryant" Subject: (kw) New Orbital albym Date: 28 Apr 1999 20:44:37 +0100 The new Orbital album "The Middle Of Nowhere" was released (in th UK) last week. Anybody who hasn't listened to them - Give it a listen. I've always found Orbital a bit "krafty", and UK listeners will love hearing a sample from the old Children's TV programme 'Newsround'. There's all sorts of numbers on the cover, so I don't know which is a catalog number, but there is a URL www.londonrecords.co.uk It's been about 3 years since their last album, so maybe they're turning a bit "krafty" in their old age? See Ya! Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Future Music 27 Date: 29 Apr 1999 15:32:17 +0200 Number 27 (May 1999) of the Spanish edition of Future Music magazine contains an article at page 77 about vocoders (again) where it's named ten classic tracks made with that instrument, surprisingly Kraftwerk is not mentioned. In the same magazine there is an interview with Juan Atkins. He says: "I'd like to work with Kraftwerk, that's one of the things I always wished to do and with time arises the opportunity. Simply I'd like to be beside them while they make music, that would be enough for me. I'd really like to go to the Kling Klang studio and to play some of my works there. Perhaps they'll call me when they read this interview". DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Stann Subject: (kw) Article on CNN dated April 26th and ROBOT tv show Date: 29 Apr 1999 08:59:50 -0500 Article was recently published on the CNN concerning the war in Balkans. = Surprisingly, Kraftwerk was not mentioned. This, despite the = destruction of power relay stations, called "kraftwerk" in German, by = the NATO missiles. Somehow the person who wrote the article was too = stupid to relate the obvious, and omitted crediting Kraftwerk, the = technopop group, with their numerous contributions to modern life, = which, much like Elvis after death, seem to get proportionately larger = with the time passed since their last real record release. Also, I noticed how during the TV coverage of the last ROBOT Olympics, = where a robot is to find its way through a maze to extinguish a burning = candle, not a SINGLE ROBOT resembled the KRAFTWERKIAN creation, the MAN = MACHINE! This cannot be! Even today's smartest geeks do not realize = how our lives are enriched by constant babbling about seemingly related = subjects which carry on for days and countless conversation threads. Of = course, THE MAN MACHINE robot would simply trample the maze (EINZ, ZWO, = EINZ, ZWO..) and swat the candle with its prosthetic hand (BOOM-TCHAK..) = to the amazement of dozens of hapless teens who obviously have no = idea.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: Re: (kw) New Orbital albym Date: 29 Apr 1999 09:26:45 +0100 > The new Orbital album "The Middle Of Nowhere" was released (in th UK) last > week. > > Anybody who hasn't listened to them - Give it a listen. > > I've always found Orbital a bit "krafty", and UK listeners will love hearing > a sample from the old Children's TV programme 'Newsround'. > There's all sorts of numbers on the cover, so I don't know which is a > catalog number, but there is a URL > > www.londonrecords.co.uk > Folks, I was gonna post a message to this list about this album. It is well known that orbital are in fact fans of kraftwerk (and also there have been rumours of collaborations, etc, etc). But parts of this album really do sound like kraftwerk. I refer to track 2, which to me is a tribute to TEE, particularly in the 4:50 area. Give it a listen. ;-) Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Raistrick Subject: RE: (kw) New Orbital album Date: 29 Apr 1999 15:46:04 +0100 "rumours of collaborations " indeed. no chance. chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) Future Music 27 & Article on CNN dated April 26th and R Date: 29 Apr 1999 10:33:29 -0700 No matter what the world of critics might omit in their magazines, or programs about KW, only "we", their fans and any other person with just a bit of common sense, knows really how much they've influenced the whole world of music and modern life, with either vocoders, crystal clear voices or "live performing robots"; and like Elvis, (very well put, Chris) their passion and love for music will live forever in our minds, hearts and stereos. Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) New Orbital albym Date: 30 Apr 1999 12:22:54 +0200 Paul Bryant wrote: >I've always found Orbital a bit "krafty", and UK listeners will love >hearing >a sample from the old Children's TV programme 'Newsround'. Do you refer the sample from "Satan" song? >There's all sorts of numbers on the cover, so I don't know which is a >catalog number, but there is a URL >www.londonrecords.co.uk The official web page of the band is http://www.orbital.co.uk/ Maybe the legacy least appraised be one of the most important, at least, = one of the most creative. KRAFTWERK have the capacity of improvise in their live-acts developing the structures and the sequences of the songs depend= ing on the audience's reactions. Attitude now apply by Orbital (Paul and Phil Hartnoll) in their concerts. Both bands have also in common that in their live-acts, impressives and elaborated, the visual concept is supported on the projected images and on the lighting engineering, never in the image = of the musicians, dissembling by a multicolor penumbra. The duet from Kent confess two basic influences in their music: "Autobahn" and acid-house. Besides both bands consider the mixingdesk as one more instrument. In the credits of "Kraftwerk 2" appear this device managed by Florian Schneider.= On the new single by Orbital ("Style") they flirt with sounds =E0 la KRAFTWE= RK. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timour JGENTI Subject: Re: (kw) New Orbital album Date: 30 Apr 1999 16:03:43 +0200 > The official web page of the band is http://www.orbital.co.uk/ this site has nothing to do with the band. it's a software company. btw they've made a typo on one of their banners saying "Java and COBRA" ;-) pfff otherwise the album "the middle of nowhere" is really nice. though I don't think it's very kraftwerky, except some rythms. -- Timour JGENTI _________________________________________________ _____________ IFP poste 8075 _____________ http://www.multimania.com/timlcf/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nicolau Centola" Subject: (kw) Orbital+Kraftwerk Date: 30 Apr 1999 07:21:35 PDT Sorry guys, but the official site for Orbital is: http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa/ The address www.orbital.co.uk points to a software house. Related, but not correct... :-) About the "official" names for the new songs: OF COURSE nobody knows the correct names for the 3 new songs played by KW since 97, because they were not released yet (IMHO they will never be released), so everything about this topic is speculation... It´s normally considered that the new song played at first at Luton was "called" Tribal. The song played after Airwaves was "called" Tango (I really don´t know why... I first thought it was a new form of Airwaves until I saw them in Brazil... but this is a different song). I can´t remember the name of the other one, and this was played just two times (ZKM and Linz) and is not more in KW tracklist. Well, I took the setlist distributed by the band in Rio de Janeiro concert, and the Tango song has no name. Luton song has the name Tribal Gathering. Please check my page: http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/kraftworld/concerts/98rjsetlist.html OF COURSE it means nothing... the new song will have (if it occours) a name different of TG when they release a new album (hahahaha)... peace Nicolau http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/kraftworld/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michel J.Fauza Subject: (kw) Daft Punk - Fritz Hilpert Date: 30 Apr 1999 11:38:12 EST >I couldn't make out "Fritz Hilpert" in the song "Teachers" by Daft Punk.= >Are you sure? What names are before and after Fritz'? = > >DJ Compute Well, these are the "official" lyrics, that i got on www.lyrics.ch (when = it was up): = Teachers (Daft Punk) Paul Johnson DJ Funk DJ Sneak DJ Rush Rocs Massive Hyperactive Jammin' Gerald Brian Wilson George Clinton Lil' Louis Ashley Beedle Neil Landstrumm Kenny Dope DJ Hell Louis Vega K Alexi Dr Dre is in the house Armando in the house Gemini is in the house Jeff Mills is in the house DJ Deeon DJ Milton DJ Slugo DJ's on the loc Green Velvet Joey Beltram DJ Asp Roy Davis Boo Williams DJ Tonka DJ Skull DJ Pierre Mike Dearbourn Todd Edwards in the house CVO in the house Luke Slater Derrick Carter Robert Hood Paris Mitchell Dave Clarke is in the house Van Helden in the house Armani in the house Surgeon in the house,yeah Michel J. Fauza ICQ: 12449637 http://members.xoom.com/fase3 Sao Paulo - Brasil ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (kw) Off- Topic : ZAPP (R.I.P.) Date: 30 Apr 1999 15:04:40 PDT To all of the members: It saddens me a great deal to report that Roger Troutman and Zapp Troutman of the group Zapp have both died. I heard this news on Monday morning, about two weeks after I saw them live at the Coach House in San Juan Capistrano, CA (about ten minutes form my house). It has been said that this was a murder-suicide; apparently Zapp shot Roger to death and then killed himself. This news is practically unknown since everyone has been talking about the Colorado shootings and the Kosovo war on the news; MTV hasn't mentioned anything about the deaths either. Power 106 FM (KPWR) and KACE FM of Los Angeles did report the news though. For those of you who aren't familiar with the group, they have been one of the BIGGEST influences on rap and R&B music, right behind Kraftwerk,Art of Noise,and James Brown. They have been sampled and imitated to DEATH!!!! Listen to most of the new R&B bullshit on the air and you'll probably agree! The group's signature sound is largely a testament to technology; Roger's vocals were sung through a talk-box which created sort of a "robot funk" sound. Their hits include "More Bounce To The Ounce" , "Blow My Thing" , "Computer Love (not to be confused with the Kraftwerk version)", "I Can Make You Dance", "Dance Floor", "Slow & Easy" , and "California Love (which was done with 2Pac)". I am SO glad that I got to see them before this happened; it was quite a spectacle. They are truly the masters of old school (as probably many g's will attest to), and they will be sorely missed !!!!!!!!!!!! NOISEWERKER _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (kw) Off-Topic : Looking for females to chat with Date: 30 Apr 1999 15:20:42 PDT Hey !!! What's up ??? I'm looking for any LATINA,MULATTO,NATIVE AMERICAN, or FRENCH girls who are fans of any of the following artists to chat with, share common interests, and have possibly a little romance with as well. Here are the artists: ART OF NOISE KRAFTWERK ORBITAL ORB PRINCE YELLO ZAPP & ROGER (RIP) TANGERINE DREAM JEAN-MICHEL JARRE VANGELIS KITARO MIKE OLDFIELD SADE VIRGIN/ASSOCIATED FRENCH HOUSE GROUPS (DAFT PUNK,STARDUST,CASSIUS/MOTORBASS,ETC.) Also, I don't speak any Spanish (unfortunately), so write all replies in English please. Can't wait for your reply!!!! noisewerker@hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Off-Topic : Looking for females to chat with Date: 30 Apr 1999 20:58:11 EDT In a message dated 4/30/99 3:23:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, noisewerker@hotmail.com writes: << Hey !!! What's up ??? I'm looking for any LATINA,MULATTO,NATIVE AMERICAN, or FRENCH girls who are fans of any of the following artists to chat with, share common interests, and have possibly a little romance with as well. Here are the artists: >> Id like to hear from them, also!! :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "PITT, Mike" Subject: (kw) Tour De Kraft update Date: 30 Apr 1999 15:59:34 +0100 New MP3's from 'Computers In Love' cd Live 1981; Radioactivity The Voice Of Energy Uranium Ohm Sweet Ohm The Cover version is 'It's more fun to Compute' from the Basskraft Tribute cd. Mike. Kraftwerk Live 1981 and Cover Versions. http://website.lineone.net/~mike.pitt/tdk.htm ___________________________________________________________________________ This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. 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