From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) The Mobile Homes Date: 01 Oct 2000 11:58:34 +0200 According to a message from the Ambient Mailing List, in the early days, The Mobile Homes used to play Kraftwerk covers in the subways of Stockholm, and they called themselves Tandwerk, which, if one corrects the intended spelling mistakes, translates to toothache. http://www.themobilehomes.com/ DER AUTOMAT (R) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Replies to the digest Date: 01 Oct 2000 12:52:47 +0200 On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:46:18 +0100, Richard Marston wrote: >Perhaps if we did a mass e-mail complaint to EMI through the www.emimusic.de >site they might repair it :) sure, but one would have to buy it again :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "nsw" Subject: Re: (kw) R: Ringtones Date: 01 Oct 2000 21:16:27 -0400 I'll have to buy a Nokia 5160 next time I'm in London. It turns out one of America's cell phone service providers, VoiceStream Wireless, actually uses GSM and I could get the thing to work...if Deutsche Telekom gives them enough capital to expand into the rest of the American market from the Pacific Northwest. Any other good ring tones out there that anyone knows of and/or made themselces. I may be going to college in VoiceStream's only area so if I do I want to be well-equipped with Kraftwerk ringtones. By the way, has anyone ever done any electronic music using cell phone sounds? If Kraftwerk releases a new album in keeping with their tradition of concepts, it should definitely be focused around wireless communication. "CIty of Cell Phones" or something to that effect... Farewell for now, Professor Gallowglass # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg Jajus Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk ringtones for Ericsson mobile Date: 30 Sep 2000 15:30:09 +0100 Some Kraftwerk-Ringtones (and many others) for Siemens mobile phones (I personally own the new S35i) can be found under http://www.bulgaria.nu/. But I think it should also work with Nokia and Ericsson ;-). Greets from vienna, Georgie -- *-*-*- * "Wir sind die Roboter" + KRAFTWERK + http://www.kraftwerk.com * * EXPO 2000 + Mensch-Natur-Technik + http://www.expo2000.de * * * * Georg Jajus (Vienna/Austria) + ICQ: 53829477 * * http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ + phone/SMS: +436765621850 * *-*-*-* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mats.kadmark@liber.se Subject: (kw) New mp3s Date: 02 Oct 2000 16:44:11 +0200 Hello KW listeners! I have once again updated my KW page with more mp3s for your delight...I have received some e-mails regarding broken links, but that should only be temporary....try again in a few hours if it doesn't work... This update includes: Stratovarius [ live Bremen '71 ] Tour de France [ live Brixton '91 ] Ta ta for now! Mats Here is the URL: http://hem.fyristorg.com/kraftwerk/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Dopplereffekt Date: 02 Oct 2000 18:08:47 +0200 The countless German references reflect the group's fascination with the classic Kraftwerk sound. After "Sterilization" (Dataphysix, 1997) was included on several mix albums, DJ Hell contacted Dopplereffekt and released the "Gesamtkunstwerk" compilation through his International Deejay Gigolo label in 1999. Their few maxis, a kind of chipped softcore version of Kraftwerk, is not only a brilliant moment in the evolution of the Detroit electro (the techno bass), but also they suit as a glove to the sleazy philosophy of IDG. "Cellular Phone", critical view of the technology. "Plasiphilia 2", cult to the fetishism and its historic lyric "I wanna make love to a mannequin". The lo-fi materilization of some electro pieces that are drum, bass and robotic melody, the bargain science-fiction sound ("Voice Activated"). DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tracy" Subject: (kw) Looking for Mark Stagg: DJ from the UK Date: 02 Oct 2000 21:24:37 -0400 Hello fellow Kraftwerk fans. Does anyone have Mark Stagg's (DJ, who used to contribute to this list) new email address? For some reason, staggman@compuserve.com not longer works. If any has his email kindly email me at tracystyle@hotmail.com. Regards Tracy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eduardo Ponz" Subject: (kw) Ringtones for 3210 Date: 04 Oct 2000 11:38:44 +0200 Hi, I got ComputerLiebe ringtone in my 3210, and I'd love to have more kwtunes. Let's trade! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: (kw) Die Mensch-Maschine Date: 04 Oct 2000 07:10:44 -0400 I'm trying to get my hands on a CD of Die Mensch-Maschine, but am having absolutely no luck. I live in the metro Detroit area, and at this point haven't found even a mail order source. Does anyone have a suggestion? Huggy Bear haupt spannung # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "massimo" Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 Abe Duque Remixes Date: 04 Oct 2000 16:40:58 +0100 I have a copy of a 12" which contains three house/electro remixes of Expo 2000 by Abe Duque on eBay. As the description says I have been told by fairly reliable sources that this was comissioned by KW but never got a proper release. Does anyone out there know any more? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=458376124 If you're interested, please use the link to bid. Thanks, Massimo Radio Klang http://klang.8k.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shilcock" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Abe Duque Remixes Date: 04 Oct 2000 16:16:20 BST >I have a copy of a 12" which contains three house/electro remixes of Expo >2000 by Abe Duque on eBay. As the description says I have been told by >fairly reliable sources that this was comissioned by KW but never got a >proper release. Does anyone out there know any more? I had thought that this was a bootleg ... and NOT an official item at all... I also don't think that it's that rare... Whenever I go in to Sister Ray in London they always seem to have a copy have a copy... See their Web Site... this item is advertised there (I think)... www.sisterray.co.uk Keep Werking John www.keepwerking.co.uk _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Die Mensch-Maschine Date: 04 Oct 2000 10:51:57 -0700 >I'm trying to get my hands on a CD of Die Mensch-Maschine, but am having >absolutely no luck. I live in the metro Detroit area, and at this point >haven't found even a mail order source. > >Does anyone have a suggestion? I just got that CD last month! Now, after seeing it many times on the list, I finally understand why people say "KORRECT" all the time. If you can't find it in local record stores, try an online store like http://www.cdconnection.com/ or http://www.cdnow.com/ or even http://www.amazon.com/ if you like. I've had lots of success with CDConnection and Amazon. It's usually listed as "Die Mensch-Maschine" or "Man Machine (German)". Good luck! ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Die Mensch-Maschine Date: 04 Oct 2000 12:53:49 -0700 Huggy Bear wrote: >I'm trying to get my hands on a CD of Die Mensch-Maschine, but am >having absolutely no luck. I live in the metro Detroit area, and at this >point haven't found even a mail order source. >Does anyone have a suggestion? I've got mine from TR: http://www.towerrecords.com/discography.asp?entry=Kraftwerk Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) (Off Topic) New ORBITAL album Date: 04 Oct 2000 12:59:23 -0700 Taken from: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/news/music/music_brief.shtml#No.23 Orbital have finished their new album and plan to release it in March through London Records. Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Karl Bartos concert review Date: 04 Oct 2000 21:59:15 +0000 Todays Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung features a review of Karl Bartos' Expo concert (first day): http://news.haz.de/HOME/KULTUR/story38603.html (German language) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com update Date: 04 Oct 2000 22:08:45 +0000 www.kraftwerk.com was updated with an "Expo Remix" page (flash version only). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Coen Rampen" Subject: RE: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com update Date: 04 Oct 2000 22:24:30 +0200 Hey list, > www.kraftwerk.com was updated with an "Expo Remix" page (flash > version only). Now what is this all about... Does the new album consist of Expo2000 remixes? :-) Regards, Coen Rampen c.rampen@student.utwente.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Die Mensch-Maschine Date: 04 Oct 2000 22:37:09 +0200 for the best price, try a German Web CD store such as www.bigbag.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Finarvas Subject: Re: (kw) Karl Bartos concert review Date: 04 Oct 2000 22:46:53 +0200 > Todays Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung features a review of Karl > Bartos' Expo concert (first day): > http://news.haz.de/HOME/KULTUR/story38603.html > (German language) > > Klaus Zaepke > > Could anyone be kind to translate this into english? Or maybe just a short summary? Anyway, I saw the concert and thought it was great, altough I dont understand why the sound was so damn loud, my ears still hurt. He was a gentleman played mostly kraftwerk-songs but also, TV, Young urban Professional, 15 minutes of fame and an unknown techno-song. /Finarvas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dean" Date: 05 Oct 2000 08:15:09 CEST Kernkraft - Zombie Nation. Number 2 in UK charts. Any link to KW? It'd be pretty shit if a clone got so high in the charts and KW only got to 27th place themselves... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) now it's "official" : various >> expo 2000 remixes << will be released this year !!! ;-) Date: 05 Oct 2000 18:30:15 +0200 hi kwf's ! now it's official : there will be the followin' remixes of expo 2000 released before the end of this year !!! *G+* ;-) francois k(evorkian) & rob rives , orbital ( !!! ;-) , dj rolando ( a.k.a. the aztec mystic !!! ;-) , u(underground) r(esistance) ( a.k.a. "mad" mike banks _himself_ !!! ;-) & the infiltrator ( a.k.a. andre holland , also of underground resistance !!! ;-) it is very likely that there will be 2 ( !!! ;-) different versions of the expo 2000 remixes single : 1.) the detroit mixes ( a.k.a. the underground resistance remixes !!! ;-) for the american market !!! ;-) 2.) the european mixes ( a.k.a. the orbital plus the f. k. & r. r. remixes !!! ;-) for ... erm ... the european market !!! ;-) anyway ... check out the flash animated website of kw _now_ : www.kraftwerk.com !!! ;-) however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern germany !!! *BWG* ;-) yours sincerely , oh jay ;-) formerly known as micROBOT "the new ROBOT voice" ! ;-) *~\^/~* my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: Re: (kw) now it's "official" : various >> expo 2000 remixes << Date: 05 Oct 2000 20:34:43 +0200 In einer Nachricht vom 05.10.2000 18:30 Uhr MESZ schrieb Oh Jay: > > hi kwf's ! > > now it's official : > there will be the followin' remixes of expo 2000 released before the end of > this year !!! *G+* ;-) Lord, why does everything have to happen to us?! jan ^^^v^^^ ===== "i believe that love is on the world's night side." -- ingeborg bachmann ===== reetze@t-online.de http://www.felix-bloch-erben.de/autoren/drehbuch/reetze.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) >> kraftwerk vs. madonna - trance music express ( dr. mike's remix ) << Date: 05 Oct 2000 21:08:25 +0200 hi kwf's ! fyi : my "alien" mate ( species 8472 ;-) has created a new audioserver !!! *G+* ;-) the audioserver X ( !!! ;-) contains a remix , which proves that kw's t.e.e. indeed "werk"'s out very well with madonna's music & also frozen trax in a highly unique mix by "dr. mike" !!! ;-) btw : loads of thanx & greetinx to the maker of this truly outstanding remix "werk" called "dr. mike" !!! ;-) "endless endless" thanx for lettin' us "use" your mix & your permission to post it to the newly created audioserver , which - from now on !!! ;-) - is _only_ for most x-clusive (re)mixes by "dr. mike" !!! *XLG* ;-))) here's the address to download this (re)mix : audioserver X : www.egroups.com/files/audioserverX !!! ;-) ~ kraftwerk vs. madonna - trance music express ( dr. mike's remix ) - 07:29 - 128 kbps - 44 khz ~ simply enjoy it !!! ;-) however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern germany !!! *BWG* ;-) yours sincerely , oh jay ;-) formerly known as micROBOT "the new ROBOT voice" ! ;-) *~\^/~* my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Karl Bartos news Date: 06 Oct 2000 00:34:31 +0000 Karl Bartos' forthcoming single "15 Minutes of Fame" is scheduled for October 30th. New Karl Bartos tourdates: 11.12.2000: Koeln, Stadtgarten 12.12.2000: Hamburg, Schlachthof 13.12.2000: Berlin, Columbia Fritz More dates t. b. a. Source: http://www.starkult.de/newsletter/index.php3#bartos Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mats.kadmark@liber.se Subject: (kw) New live pictures! Date: 06 Oct 2000 09:44:42 +0200 Hi all ! ! ! I have just put up a page with 8 "unknown" live pictures + scans of the tickets for the Brixton Academy show in London in 1991. The photos are of very high quality. Many thanks to Jon + Andy for the pics! Mats http://hem.fyristorg.com/kraftwerk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar Wess Subject: (kw) KW-videos on German TV Date: 07 Oct 2000 10:01:13 +0200 To everybody who missed it so far: VIVA will (probably) show both KRAFTWERK's "EXPO2002"-Video AND Senor Coconut's "Tour de France"-Video (and some other (not kw-related) great ones INHO ;-) replay: VIVA, "Berlin House", 11.00pm - 00.00am MEST Gunnar -- http://www.stromschlaeger.de/ http://mp3.stromschlaeger.de/ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: komputer@gmx.de Subject: (kw) Bartos - EXPO2000 Date: 04 Oct 2000 21:28:33 +0200 (MEST) Bartos - 2./3.10.2000 - BeatBox - Expo2000, Hannover Numbers Computerwelt Metropolis The Man-Machine Heimcomputer/More Fun To Compute Techno Pop Der Telefonanruf Tour De France TV Young Urban Professional Neonlight The Model Computerlove 15 Minutes Of Fame Taschenrechner The Robots (unknown - also Bartos/Bauhouse-Tour) 15 Minutes Of Fame -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik J. Eid" Subject: Re: (kw) Die Mensch-Maschine Date: 08 Oct 2000 22:16:37 -0400 At 07:10 PM 10/4/00 -0400, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 07:10:44 -0400 >From: "Huggy Bear" >Subject: (kw) Die Mensch-Maschine > >I'm trying to get my hands on a CD of Die Mensch-Maschine, but am having >absolutely no luck. I live in the metro Detroit area, and at this point >haven't found even a mail order source. > >Does anyone have a suggestion? I would have suggested the Tower Records in Ann Arbor, which sometimes carried imports, before it closed unexpectedly a couple of months ago. :( You might be able to get one from Borders on special order. I've seen a Dutch pressing of Autobahn float through a couple of different locations. For imports by mail-order I usually go to AB-CD (www.ab-cd.com). Their web site is easy to use (unfortunately there aren't sound samples) and has quite a few items more mainstream stores don't carry. I've had good service when a CD is available, though they have a habit of leaving entries up of things they can't easily get a hold of or turn out to be vaporware. I also like Music Machine (www.musicmachine.com), a shop in Maryland. I ordered Elektric Music's first album from them when it first came out, and a Kraftwerk remix sampler last year, and got good service and quick turnaround in both cases. You'll probably want to call because it doesn't appear the web site's been updated recently (no mention of Madonna's "Music", for instance). Good luck! . . \_ +\_ + o_-/ . O . \-_o -=/- . . . . \=// . ---------\_______ ||O ___.______ /* Erik Eid */ \____||L/\_____/ /* eeid@wwnet.net */_______________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Henderson" Subject: (kw) Expo 2001? Date: 08 Oct 2000 20:59:20 -0600 I also noticed that when you first bring up the Flash version of www.kraftwerk.com you get "Expo Remix". But if you scroll through all the titles back on the main listing, you later get "Expo 2001" (which is just the mannequin Expo2k robots), and then you can't seem to get the "Expo Remix" item back. A bug in the Flash program, I'm sure, but what is "Expo 2001"? Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mats.kadmark@liber.se Subject: (kw) Album poll is back Date: 10 Oct 2000 11:18:46 +0200 Hi ! The Kraftwerk Album Poll is back on my homepage again, but with a new provider. Pollit.com must be out of business and all results are lost. I had about 150 votes. CW was number 1. MM number 2. Please vote again all of you who voted last time and all you others as well...!!! http://hem.fyristorg.com/kraftwerk Mats # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?B?riB8fHwgVFtlXUNoTk8gfHx8IK4=?= Subject: (kw) saturday night live om SONY TV Date: 10 Oct 2000 22:35:52 -0300 today i saw a ridiculization of kratwerk on SOny TV (Satyrday night live show) thay dance dressed in black ,electric cafe greets jp _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Wickson" Subject: (kw) Re:saturday night live om SONY TV Date: 10 Oct 2000 20:32:02 PDT I think you are referring to the "Sprockets" sketch in which Mike Myers plays a character called "Dieter." _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jabbsco@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) saturday night live om SONY TV Date: 10 Oct 2000 23:31:41 EDT Sprockets? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) New Kraftwerk remixes Date: 09 Oct 2000 10:37:02 +0100 are on www.kraftwerk.de !!!! http://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) EXPOREMIX Date: 09 Oct 2000 19:20:37 +0100 I asked at EMI about the remixes and got this: "There is currently nothing showing for Kraftwerk on our UK Forward Releases Schedule. Possibly a release in Germany????" http://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: (kw) Expo mixes Date: 11 Oct 2000 09:49:29 +0200 Searching for Expo mixes on Napster, I found, apart from the kling-klang = mixes, these: Sandstorm remix Hitmix Archeb mix (to versions) Hitmix is probably some DJ remix service, but what about sandstorm and Archeb - are they from the forthcomming remix single? Lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Senor Coconut Date: 11 Oct 2000 15:37:50 +0200 Senor Coconut y su Conjunto on the new number issue (12) of the magazine Ciclo www.ciclo.net, sorry only in Spanish. DER AUTOMAT (R) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo mixes Date: 11 Oct 2000 19:54:54 +0200 hi kwf's ! Lars Nellemann wrote : ~ Searching for Expo mixes on Napster, I found, apart from the kling-klang mixes, these: ~ ~ Sandstorm remix ~ Hitmix ~ Archeb mix (to versions) ~ ~ Hitmix is probably some DJ remix service, but what about ~ sandstorm and Archeb - are they from the forthcomming remix single? the sandstorm remix is pretty good imho !!! ;-) but forget about that "hitmix" & the "arche b mixes" , they are really crappy imho !!! :-/ fyi : _NONE_ of those mixes will be on the forthcomin' expo 2000 remixes singles , simply because they're all "unofficial mixes" & not authorized by kw themselves !!! :-o however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern germany !!! *BWG* ;-) yours sincerely , oh jay ;-) formerly known as micROBOT "the new ROBOT voice" ! ;-) *~\^/~* my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) Madonnas new single Music Date: 11 Oct 2000 21:17:49 +0200 "Svensson, Joakim" wrote: > > Listen to the section 1:50 - 2:10 in the first single version (I think) and > I'm sure you'll hear the "resemblance"... > > -----Original Message----- > ...So, where is the TEE in "Music"?... Madonna's "Music" found it's way to my house too, and indeed, the Metall auf Metall rhythm is there, and QUITE some more synthetic electronic sounds. This track doesn't deserve to be labelled a rip-off at all, I think it's very good and original. And, isn't it great a 25 years old record apparently still has influence on people like William Orbit and Madonna? PS Did you notice that this cd is mastered at METROPOLIS Studios, London? *GASP!* PPS I wonder if on the Cher mailing list they call this record a rip-off of Cher's processed singing. Rick Jansen -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Frank X. Cordero" Subject: Re: (kw) Madonnas new single Music Date: 12 Oct 2000 01:50:26 GMT Rick Jansen writes: I wonder if on the Cher mailing list they call this record a rip-off of Cher's processed singing. Ha! Ha! Wait till they start discussing "Nobody's Perfect" by Madonna on the "Music" CD! Mucho Vocoder!! (Hold on, I'm seeing the video storyboard to "Nobody's Pefect"....a female ROBOT singing..."Nobody's Pefect") NP: Kraftwerk Vs. Madonna - Music Makes the People Non-Stop (DJ Vodka) http://djfrankx.tripod.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: Sprockets (RE: (kw) saturday night live om SONY TV) Date: 11 Oct 2000 18:29:59 +0200 > Sprockets? The following is quoted from this mailing list, sorry I don't remember the person who wrote the message: "Mike Myers (of Austin Powers and Wayne's World fame) has been tapped to play "Dieter" in the full length motion picture based on the Saturday Night Live "Sprockets" skit. The theme song for "Sprockets" played at the beginning and end of the show is unmistakably "Electric Cafe" played at double the speed. They used it in every skit. Excerpts for the show can be seen at the new Austin Powers movie. Supposedly a film based on the skit will be out next year." --end of quote-- Some time ago I saw the dreadful Austin Powers movie, The spy who shagged me, and don't remember the mentioned excerpts for the Sprockets on the film. DER AUTOMAT (R) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com update Date: 12 Oct 2000 22:13:02 +0200 Klaus Zaepke wrote: > > www.kraftwerk.com was updated with an "Expo Remix" page (flash > version only). > > Klaus Zaepke Indeed! You all know how to capture these remixes, do you? What I do is (Netscape, Windows NT): go to the cache folder. This folder is located in: ...Program Files/Netscape/users/YOURNAME/cache/ Select view by details, sort on modification date. Now, if you click one of the thingies in the Kraftwerk site a flash program is downloaded here, in the cache folder, with the extension .swf, like "M1u71mjt.swf" Copy this file to somewhere else and you can run it, by dragging it to your browser window. Don't forget to do a refresh of the view of the cache folder, else you may miss it. Rick Jansen -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Frank X. Cordero" Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com update Date: 13 Oct 2000 01:28:26 GMT Check out the Underground Resistance remix of Expo 2000. Listen to: "Germany....They're so electric. Detroit....We're so electric." DJ Rolando (the longer mix edit) begins with: "Detroit, Germany" Francois Kevorkian + Rob Rives uses the Classic Disco Sample (there goes that funky bass again) from Gino Soccio's 1981 dance floor anthem...."DANCER"!! UR Infiltrated mix is also interesting. Orbital?.....well, I'll need to hear the rest. NP: Kraftwerk Vs. Madonna "Music Makes the People Non-Stop-DJ Vodka Mix http://djfrankx/tripod.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: (kw) Tone Float Date: 12 Oct 2000 22:15:46 -0400 I just got a copy of Tone Float. This is the version by Crown Records, dated 1996. It has the bonus track Vor Dem Blauen Bock (Beat Clup TV Theme Mal 1971). Anyway, my question is concerning track 5...on the disc it is listed as Noitasinwaqagro, but I seem to recall other discussions that said the correct title is Noitsinagro, which is simply Organisation spelled backward. Can someone shed some light on this? BTW, I also got a copy of Die Mensch-Maschine. Thank you everyone for the suggestions. Huggy Bear The past is the only dead thing that smells sweet. - Cyril Connolly # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) Tone Float - noitasinagrO ;-) Date: 13 Oct 2000 05:07:18 +0200 hi kwf's ! raeB ygguH wrote : ~ Anyway, my question is concerning track 5... ~ on the disc it is listed as Noitasinwaqagro, _HUH_ ??? *LOL* ;-))) ~ but I seem to recall other discussions that said ~ the correct title is Noitsinagro, noitasinagrO is the ... erm ... _KORREKT_ title !!! *BWG* ;-))) ~ which is simply Organisation spelled backward. u got it , raeB ygguH !!! *XLG* ;-))) ~ The past is the only dead thing that smells sweet. - Cyril Connolly ... but don't forget _SUCCESS_ , mate !!! *smart(ass)_grin* ;-))) however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern germany !!! ;-) yours sincerely , oh jay ;-) formerly known as micROBOT "the new ROBOT voice" ! ;-) *~\^/~* my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Familie de Haan Subject: (kw) Senor Coconut Date: 13 Oct 2000 08:22:53 +0200 You can download Senor Cocnuts album at alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.2000s if you hurry up... -- signatures are for losers # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) Tone Float Date: 13 Oct 2000 09:54:32 +0200 Huggy Bear wrote: > Anyway, my question is concerning track 5...on the disc it is listed as > Noitasinwaqagro, but I seem to recall other discussions that said the > correct title is Noitsinagro, which is simply Organisation spelled backward. > > Can someone shed some light on this? It was typed by a bad typist who simply hit the upper left 3 keys all in one. I can imagine the frustration of the poor layoutist, realising (s)he was typing Organisation backwards. Maybe there's a hidden message in there? Did you try to play the CD backwards? Rick Jansen __ rja@euronet.nl http://www.euronet.nl/~rja ____________________________________________ S&H's a module and s&h's looking good # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar Wess Subject: Re: (kw) New Kraftwerk remixes Date: 13 Oct 2000 18:40:31 +0200 does anybody know when this remixes (themselves) are available on cd? (wenn ueberhaupt) thanks Gunnar Richard Marston wrote: > > are on www.kraftwerk.de !!!! -- http://www.stromschlaeger.de/ http://mp3.de/home/stromschlaeger _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Madonnas new single Music Date: 13 Oct 2000 18:47:29 +0200 Rick Jansen wrote: > I wonder if on the Cher mailing list they call this record a > rip-off of Cher's processed singing. The first one using this technique were Roy Vedas, a duo who made a vocorized-song called "Fragments of Life" (12" PolyGram, 1998). They mentioned KRAFTWERK as one of their principal influences. Frank X. Cordero wrote: >Hold on, I'm seeing the video storyboard to >"Nobody's Pefect"....a female ROBOT singing..."Nobody's Pefect" That sounds much like a rip-off of Bj=F6rk's video-clip of "All is full o= f love" (One Little Indian, 1999) which was directed by Chris Cunningham, I think. Cunningham has also directed the Madonna's video-clip Frozen [1998= ]. DER AUTOMAT (R) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark J Stagg" Subject: (kw) THAT Cher vocal effect Date: 13 Oct 2000 20:11:45 +0100 I'm 99% sure that the Cher vocal sound (as also heard on loads of current stuff esp. UK Garage) is not a vocoder, but a DSP software plug-in called "Auto-Tune" by Antares, also just recently made available as a hardware unit. It corrects pitch, and - if you push it - creates the effect in question by rapidly quantizing the pitch to just a few pre-chosen notes. STAGGMAN >> I wonder if on the Cher mailing list they call this record a >> rip-off of Cher's processed singing. > > The first one using this technique were Roy Vedas, a duo who made a > vocorized-song called "Fragments of Life" (12" PolyGram, 1998). They > mentioned > KRAFTWERK as one of their principal influences. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Familie de Haan Subject: Re: (kw) THAT Cher vocal effect Date: 13 Oct 2000 21:19:09 +0200 Wrong, it is a vocoder, fed with the melody slightly off the beat, mixed with the original vocals. Read it at: http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/feb99/articles/tracks661.htm Please close topic (and any Madonnot related topix) -- familie de Haan - Paul Whitemansingel 40 3069 XV Rotterdam - the Netherlands http://users.bart.nl/~kukeleku/ > From: "Mark J Stagg" > Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:11:45 +0100 > To: kraftwerk@xmission.com > Subject: (kw) THAT Cher vocal effect > > > I'm 99% sure that the Cher vocal sound (as also heard on loads of current > stuff esp. UK Garage) is not a vocoder, but a DSP software plug-in called > "Auto-Tune" by Antares, also just recently made available as a hardware > unit. It corrects pitch, and - if you push it - creates the effect in > question by rapidly quantizing the pitch to just a few pre-chosen notes. > > STAGGMAN > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Kiplinger" Subject: (kw) Cher's Voice Date: 13 Oct 2000 14:32:14 PDT Well Cher's voice on her 1999 song "Believe" is a voice rip off. To be honset every artist has been ripping it off for awhile. Has anyone every heard of Zapp And Roger? Well they were the ones who started that computer-filter voice in that R&B way. Zapp And Roger were big in the R&B world from 1980 to 1984, and then a come back in 1993 when they release their "Greatest Hits" album and Roger did the voice for 2 Pac's 1995 song "California Love". Zapp And Roger has made some of the most classic old school songs like "More Bounce To The Once" (1982), "Mega-Mix" (1994), "Computer Love" (1985) and "Dance Floor" (1982). If you don't believe me, go download some of their songs. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: (kw) Roy Vedas Date: 14 Oct 2000 00:47:02 GMT automat wrote: The first one using this technique were Roy Vedas, a duo who made a vocorized-song called "Fragments of Life" (12" PolyGram, 1998). They mentioned KRAFTWERK as one of their principal influences. I just have to say thanks to Der Automat for mentioning this name Roy Vedas. I heard this track a bout two years ago - my brother caught it on the radio in France. The bad quality recording meant my interpretation of the guys name was Ray Vedar! I'm now not surprised I could never find anything else by him! Cheers :) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?B?riB8fHwgVFtlXUNoTk8gfHx8IK4=?= Subject: (kw) Voice Program question Date: 13 Oct 2000 23:31:35 -0300 Do u know where i can download some program that reproduces the voices used on Expo 2000 ???? I think is the same that they use on the program CLICK ONLINE of BBC. I would really appreciate. thanks in advance jp __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Henderson" Subject: (kw) Tour CDs Date: 13 Oct 2000 22:05:05 -0600 Okay, sorry for the massive cross-post, but I just had to say Pearl Jam have made me weep by doing something that I really would kill for all my fav bands to do. They have released all of their shows from their European tour on CD. You get 2 CDs of soundboard live material from any show on the tour for around US$12 per show. I guess this is their effort to stomp bootlegs. Check out www.cdnow.com and do a search for "Pearl Jam" and there you go... Why the post? Because this seems like such a terrific idea for any band. Well okay, terrific for the fans, that is... Okay, I'll shut up now (you're welcome). Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: Re: (kw) Tour CDs Date: 14 Oct 2000 10:10:20 +0200 > bands to do. They have released all of their shows from their European = tour > on CD.=20 Well, except the Roskilde show, were nine people were killed! and that bootleg will probably be the most wanted by morbid fans! Lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JL Jones" Subject: (kw) expo remixes Date: 14 Oct 2000 09:06:13 -0400 Finally got to listen to the Flash remix loops on kraftwerk.de very cool... the underground resistance ones caught me off guard a little... nice work... Francois K/Rob Rives mix -nice nice nice... (my favorite) and Orbital... (smiling) well its definitely Orbital... using the Kraftwerk sounds... interesting... that mix makes me think of Lush 3-3 from diversions (the underworld mix) same kind of thing where underworld remixes orbital using orbital sounds.. (i know its kind of an "obvious" thing to say, but if you've heard both, you know what i mean) so when is the Expo 2000 remix CD/Vinyl/whatever going to be available for purchase? or is it available now?? Jim J@home "You know how delicious my 100% all beef hamburgers taste, imagine how delicious the Universe will be when I am its Mighty Over-Lord" Dave Thomas - Wendy's founder/Deity 2000 candidate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OGO Yoichiro Subject: Re: (kw) expo remixes Date: 14 Oct 2000 23:14:20 +0900 Hi, According to the information from HMV (Japan), http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail.asp?sku=465556 At 9:06 AM -0400 2000.10.14, JL Jones wrote: > so when is the Expo 2000 remix CD/Vinyl/whatever going to be > available for purchase? or is it available now?? Expo 2000 Remix(7 Tracks) Date$B!!(B2000/10/13 Label$B!!(BEMI Catalogue No.$B!!(B8896120 Press$B!!(BEurope Also from www.eil.com; KRAFTWERK Expo 2000 (New German maxi CD single includes DJ Rolando Mix, Underground Resistance Thought 3, Underground Resistance, Underground Resistance Mix, Underground Infiltrated, Francois k + Rob Rives and Orbital Mix, picture sleeve) UKP 7.49 / JPY 1289.33 Regards, OGO Yoichiro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Claycomb" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2001? Date: 08 Oct 2000 23:25:08 -0400 Expo 2001 is another Kraftwerk re-mix on the Expo 2000 CD. :-) Christian ;-) ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 10:59 PM > > I also noticed that when you first bring up the Flash version of > www.kraftwerk.com you get "Expo Remix". But if you scroll through all the > titles back on the main listing, you later get "Expo 2001" (which is just > the mannequin Expo2k robots), and then you can't seem to get the "Expo > Remix" item back. > > A bug in the Flash program, I'm sure, but what is "Expo 2001"? > > Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (kw) new MUSIC DON'T STOP @ wraftwerk.com Date: 12 Oct 2000 02:20:15 +0200 ...and anybody notice there is a new version of 'music don't stop' at www.kraftwerk.com ??? bye MuSiK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Henderson" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2001? Date: 09 Oct 2000 08:33:36 -0600 You are right! :) But I just thought maybe they were hinting at another single release of some kind. But I will certainly wait with much anticipation as the Grandfathers of Techno (KW) meet the Prodigal Sons of Techno (Orbital)... Mike ----- Original Message ----- > Expo 2001 is another Kraftwerk re-mix on the Expo 2000 CD. :-) > > Christian ;-) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Henderson" > > > I also noticed that when you first bring up the Flash version of > > www.kraftwerk.com you get "Expo Remix". But if you scroll through all the > > titles back on the main listing, you later get "Expo 2001" (which is just > > the mannequin Expo2k robots), and then you can't seem to get the "Expo > > Remix" item back. > > > > A bug in the Flash program, I'm sure, but what is "Expo 2001"? > > > > Mike > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob VonMoss Subject: Re: (kw) Die Mensch-Maschine Date: 08 Oct 2000 22:34:51 -0500 "Erik J. Eid" wrote: > > >From: "Huggy Bear" > > > >I'm trying to get my hands on a CD of Die Mensch-Maschine, but am having > >absolutely no luck. > > I would have suggested the Tower Records in Ann Arbor, which sometimes > carried imports, before it closed unexpectedly a couple of months ago. :( I've got the following up for auction: The Man-Machine http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=462101385 Computer World http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=462099632 Electric Cafe http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=462100437 Radioactivity http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=462102295 The Mix http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=462102884 Trans-Europe Express http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=462103371 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob VonMoss Subject: Re: (kw) Die Mensch-Maschine Date: 08 Oct 2000 22:35:05 -0500 "Erik J. Eid" wrote: > > >From: "Huggy Bear" > > > >I'm trying to get my hands on a CD of Die Mensch-Maschine, but am having > >absolutely no luck. > > I would have suggested the Tower Records in Ann Arbor, which sometimes > carried imports, before it closed unexpectedly a couple of months ago. :( I've got the following up for auction: The Man-Machine http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=462101385 Computer World http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=462099632 Electric Cafe http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=462100437 Radioactivity http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=462102295 The Mix http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=462102884 Trans-Europe Express http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=462103371 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) new MUSIC DON'T STOP @ kraftwerk.com Date: 15 Oct 2000 12:52:20 +0200 j.musik@airtel.net wrote: > > ...and anybody notice there is a new version of 'music don't stop' at > www.kraftwerk.com ??? Yep! This is not a flash program, but a .mts file, a MetaStream file. If you capture it, and run it from your own computer you get more controls if you click it with the right mouse button. Wire frame, flat shading, smooth shading, texturing etc. Zoom, pan, ... Enjoy! Rick Jansen -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Claycomb ;-\)" Subject: Re: (kw) new MUSIC DON'T STOP @ kraftwerk.com Date: 15 Oct 2000 13:23:19 -0400 I know this album was discussed a few times but was there any copies of this CD made available even in a bootleg recordings?!?!?!? Or does anyone have any of those early recordings?!?!?!? Christian ;-) ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 8:20 PM > > ...and anybody notice there is a new version of 'music don't stop' at > www.kraftwerk.com ??? > > bye > MuSiK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: (kw) Re: (orbital) Tour CDs Date: 15 Oct 2000 17:49:01 +0000 Mike Henderson wrote: > > Okay, sorry for the massive cross-post, but I just had to say Pearl Jam have > made me weep by doing something that I really would kill for all my fav > bands to do. They have released all of their shows from their European tour > on CD. You get 2 CDs of soundboard live material from any show on the tour > for around US$12 per show. I guess this is their effort to stomp bootlegs. Stomp bootlegs? As I remember, PJ (along with some other bands like Dave Matthews Band) allows anybody to record live shows without copyright BS. -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lloyd Subject: (kw) New Expo Remixes.. Date: 15 Oct 2000 22:01:21 -0400 The only remix that I've enjoyed so-far is the Francois K. + (what's his name) remix. The others are quite sad. Some guy labouring under the impression that he's interesting, saying "Germany" and "Detroit" and whatever else spoils it. It's immature in comparison to the real thing. As well, I hope Kraftwerk puts their own version (i.e. the music that is looping when you first enter the remix area on the web site) on the CD - whenever that comes out. Keep checking Napster. fridge@sympatico.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "<< RICARDO >> << SUPER >>" Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #481 Date: 16 Oct 2000 12:11:17 GMT Hi, on last night, I saw the movie RPM, and , voala, Wolfgang appears on a wonderful interview with a ot of photos and they first band, playing acoustic drums !!!! interesting, something like a german beattles !!! and speaking about the electronic drums appeareance and invention !!!!! great stuff !!! this movie is from International Movie Festival of Rio de Janeiro !!!!! Great !!! Seeu. Sintetik. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean, Karen, Duncan and Callum" Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #481 Date: 16 Oct 2000 08:37:29 -0400 At 09:40 PM 15/10/00, you wrote: >"Mike Myers (of Austin Powers and Wayne's World fame) has been tapped to >play "Dieter" in the full length motion picture based on the Saturday Night >Live "Sprockets" skit. The theme song for "Sprockets" played at the >beginning and end of the show is unmistakably "Electric Cafe" played at >double the speed. They used it in every skit. Excerpts for the show can be >seen at the new Austin Powers movie. Supposedly a film based on the skit >will be out next year." Yep, the funny CANADIAN comedy actor Mike Myers. BUT the movie has been at least for now scrapped. Like said that the script sucked and he wouldn't be involved in it as such. They sued him, it was settled out of court. Who knows now. I honestly can't imagine it being a movie to see. Then again, I think Austin Powers is childish and moronic. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? 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Date: 16 Oct 2000 14:16:50 GMT hey don't forget towa tei's sample from computer world on his album 'future music'... can we stop now please? gee, that's great... mike meyers used a sped up kraftwerk song as the exit music for all the saturday night live sprockets skits. maybe we can talk about it for a few weeks or months or years. my local national public radio station used to use the balanescu quartet's version of we are the robots occasionally on their news program... maybe that would be another great and interesting topic. the simpsons mention kraftwerk once in an episode, and have an episode where these german businessmen buy the power plant from mr. burns (monty) and the episode has kraftwerk in the title... great topics all, really. i'd like to talk about them forever...that, and what dj's use kraftwerk samples... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Ariston and on and on.. Date: 16 Oct 2000 18:01:27 +0100 Matthew Large wrote: > don't forget towa tei's sample from computer world on his album 'future > music'... > > can we stop now please? Let me guess the first three responses: robolennon@azol.com will write: > Yes whirrker@anorak.com will write: > Yes mechaspodzilla@walrus.com will write: > No Tjodolf Ulriksen wrote: > Kraftwerk fans just accept > that there are a bunch of voices you can't really make out, and don't expect > there to be anything of importance in the chaos. Prejudice or experience? K :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Erasure's Loveboat Date: 16 Oct 2000 11:47:44 +0200 New Erasure album, "Loveboat", contains a song called "Crying in the Rain" which background sound is pretty close to Kraftwerk's "Uranium". DER AUTOMAT (R) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: (kw) O.T. Date: 17 Oct 2000 10:16:59 +0200 Sorry for this off topic. I need to convert a real audio file in a wav file: how can I do? Mail me privately. Thank you very much and forgive me again. Didi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Autechre playing 'Numbers' Date: 17 Oct 2000 16:14:52 +0200 Last weekend The Incredible Warp Lighthouse Party was held at The Chainstore, Trinity Buoy Wharf in London's docklands. Autechre started their concert simulating they were playing 'Numbers' (the 12"), it was so awe-inspiring! Andrea Parker also played a kind of electro with loads of Kraftwerk sounds. www.warprecords.com/warp/news DER AUTOMAT (R) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) Autechre playing 'Numbers' Date: 17 Oct 2000 11:26:26 -0600 (MDT) On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Der Automat wrote: > Last weekend The Incredible Warp Lighthouse Party was held at The > Chainstore, Trinity Buoy Wharf in London's docklands. Autechre started their > concert simulating they were playing 'Numbers' (the 12"), it was so > awe-inspiring! Are you serious? That would be an incredible thing to hear. I hope someone bootlegs it for us! -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peder Schubertsson" Subject: (kw) Music non stop @ www.kraftwerk.com Date: 16 Oct 2000 11:30:41 +0200 This isn't a new version of Music non stop. I'm quite sure that this is t= he same version as the one they made for MTV in '93 for their show "Music no= n stop". H=E4lsningar Peder Schubertsson "Who is general failure and why is he reading drive C:\?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Claycomb ;-\)" Subject: Re: (kw) New Expo Remixes.. Date: 15 Oct 2000 22:07:09 -0400 *LOL* I'll have to second that 1!!!!!!! *G* Christian ;-) ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 10:01 PM > > The only remix that I've enjoyed so-far is the Francois K. + (what's his > name) remix. The others are quite sad. Some guy labouring under the > impression that he's interesting, saying "Germany" and "Detroit" and > whatever else spoils it. It's immature in comparison to the real thing. > > As well, I hope Kraftwerk puts their own version (i.e. the music that is > looping when you first enter the remix area on the web site) on the CD - > whenever that comes out. > > Keep checking Napster. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nicolau Centola" Date: 16 Oct 2000 13:43:16 GMT Anyone took the TV video? Is it possible to download this quick time movie? gracias Nicolau http://members.xoom.com/kraftworld >>>>The website of Karl Bartos is now online at www.karl-bartos.de and www.electric-music.de, including news, a little Quicktime-movie ("TV" live) and guestbook. MfG Carsten Bolte. Kiel. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dean" Subject: (kw) Chris Storey from Australia Date: 18 Oct 2000 11:43:25 CEST I'm calling on Chris Storey from Australia!!! We were in a CD trade; I haven't heard from you for a while but I lost your e-mail address! I just want you to know, I have copied the CDs you wanted. So how far are you and let me know if you still want them... Matt http://www.mattwerk.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) THAT Cher vocal effect Date: 18 Oct 2000 11:33:46 +0200 Mark J Stagg wrote: > > I'm 99% sure that the Cher vocal sound (as also heard on loads of > > current stuff esp. UK Garage) is not a vocoder, but a DSP software plug-in > > called "Auto-Tune" by Antares, also just recently made available as a hardware > > unit. It corrects pitch, and - if you push it - creates the effect in > > question by rapidly quantizing the pitch to just a few pre-chosen notes. Familie de Haan wrote: > Wrong, it is a vocoder, fed with the melody slightly off the beat, mixed > with the original vocals. > Read it at: > http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/feb99/articles/tracks661.htm The apparatus that produces this effect is called Vocalist. And it's also used on the new Daft Punk 12". DER AUTOMAT (R) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) An oddity! Date: 18 Oct 2000 11:51:50 +0200 The Space Negros, a relatively minor band on the Boston punk/indie scene of the late '70s and early '80s, were a rather large collective of musicians essentially devoted to experimental synth-pop, although any number of influences could pop up on record. Led by multi-instrumentalist, arranger, composer, engineer, and producer Erik Lindgren. Their album "Space Negros Do Generic Ethnic Muzak Versions of All Your Favorite Punk/Psychedelic Son" (CD Arf! AA-038 1992, re-release in 1995) included "Expo 2000" and "Ohm". The Space Negros' "Robot" (Brookings/Lindgren) is contained on "Dig Archaeology 1980-1990" (CD Arf! Arf! AA-035) compilation released in 1992. DER AUTOMAT (R) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Scott 4 Date: 18 Oct 2000 17:41:18 +0200 From last week Time Out Magazine: Scott Blixen's excellent Scott 4 - trimmed to a duo after the departure of guitarist John Moody and having parted company with V2 - now decidedly favour the ineffably groovy, techno/Kraftwerkian element that has always figured in their work over the urban folk/blues side. This will undoubtedly provide a perfect, intimate opportunity to hear new material, along with a few old faves. Five-piece GW favour a determinedly 60's garage stylee, with lashings of keys and vaguely Folk Implosion tendencies. DER AUTOMAT (R) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) 2000: A Spaced Oddity Date: 18 Oct 2000 17:39:50 +0100 Der Automat wrote: > > The Space Negros, a relatively minor band on the Boston punk/indie scene of > the late '70s and early '80s, were a rather large collective of musicians > essentially devoted to experimental synth-pop, although any number of > influences could pop up on record. Led by multi-instrumentalist, arranger, > composer, engineer, and producer Erik Lindgren. (You seem to have taken http://www.getmusic.com/artists/amg/Artist/901/23901.html as your source up to this point?) > Their album "Space Negros Do > Generic Ethnic Muzak Versions of All Your Favorite Punk/Psychedelic Son" '-gs From the 60s' to complete the title. > 1992, re-release in 1995) included "Expo 2000" and "Ohm". He's right, you know! Hear an extract from 'Expo 2000' and see the track list at http://www.arfarfrecords.com/arfarf/records/aa38.html I like what I hear - they sound a bit like the Residents attempting Prog Rock. Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) An oddity! _INDEED_ !!! *G+* ;-) Date: 18 Oct 2000 18:48:13 +0200 hi kwf's ! DER AUTOMAT w(R)ote : ~ Their album "Space Negros Do Generic Ethnic Muzak Versions ~ of All Your Favorite Punk/Psychedelic Son" ~ (CD Arf! AA-038 1992, re-release in 1995) ~ included "Expo 2000" and "Ohm". _HUH_ ??? *most_unbelievin'_grin_u_can_imagine* :-? _HOW_ can someone do a "version" of expo 2000 ( or _ANY_ other song or track !!! ;-) before it even exists ??? *utterly_astounded_facial_expression* :-O can u please explain this more coherent , her(r) automat ??? *very_curious_indeed* ;-) however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern germany !!! ;-) yours sincerely , oh jay ;-) formerly known as micROBOT "the new ROBOT voice" ! ;-) *~\^/~* my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: Re: (kw) 2000: A Spaced Oddity Date: 18 Oct 2000 17:06:16 GMT thanx to proxy server between me and the ouside world I'm not able to listen to these rams. but I have a question: is 'boris the spider' a cover of griff pilchard's (in)famous song? does anybody know? can anyone mp3 them? ta He's right, you know! Hear an extract from 'Expo 2000' and see the track list at http://www.arfarfrecords.com/arfarf/records/aa38.html I like what I hear - they sound a bit like the Residents attempting Prog Rock. Kevin _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark J Stagg" Subject: (kw) Expo Remix at emimusic.de Date: 18 Oct 2000 18:32:28 +0100 > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3054738748_1523302_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable The Expo Remix CD is now listed in the Kraftwerk discography at: http://www.emimusic.de/index.html?theframe=3D/artists/kraftwerk/index.html with details as follows... Expo2000 REMIXES 1. Orbital Mix 2. FK & Rob Rives Mix 3. DJ Rolando Mix 4. Underground Resistance Mix 5. UR Infiltrated Mix 6. UR Thought 3 Mix Katalognr.: 8896122 Ver=F6ffentlichung am 13.11.2000 1 CD Staggman --MS_Mac_OE_3054738748_1523302_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Expo  Remix at emimusic.de The Expo Remix CD is now listed in the Kraftwerk discography at:
http://www.emimusic.de/index.html?theframe=3D/artists/kraftwerk/index.html with details as follows...

Expo2000 REMIXES

1. Orbital Mix
2. FK & Rob Rives Mix
3. DJ Rolando Mix
4. Underground Resistance Mix
5. UR Infiltrated Mix
6. UR Thought 3 Mix

Katalognr.: 8896122
Ver=F6ffentlichung am 13.11.2000
1 CD

Staggman --MS_Mac_OE_3054738748_1523302_MIME_Part-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) New Senor Coconut live dates Date: 18 Oct 2000 21:38:25 +0000 http://www.multicolor-recordings.de/ lists two new Senor Coconut concert dates: 02.11. PERIFERIAS 2000, Huesca 01.12. FESTIVAL TRANSMUSICALES, Rennes Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo Remix at emimusic.de Date: 18 Oct 2000 21:38:25 +0000 > Katalognr.: 8896122 > Ver=F6ffentlichung am 13.11.2000 > 1 CD http://www.bigbag.de also announces a 2 x 12" version in addition to the CD version, by the way. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) An oddity! _INDEED_ !!! *G+* ;-) Date: 18 Oct 2000 14:45:04 -0700 >~ Their album "Space Negros Do Generic Ethnic Muzak Versions >~ of All Your Favorite Punk/Psychedelic Son" >~ (CD Arf! AA-038 1992, re-release in 1995) >~ included "Expo 2000" and "Ohm". > >_HUH_ ??? *most_unbelievin'_grin_u_can_imagine* :-? >_HOW_ can someone do a "version" of expo 2000 ( or _ANY_ other song or track >!!! ;-) before it even exists ??? *utterly_astounded_facial_expression* :-O I was wondering the same thing! I imagine there was a song in the 1960's called "Expo 2000". Pizzicato 5 had an album called "Expo 2001" in the early 1990's... ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) An oddity! _INDEED_ !!! *G+* ;-) Date: 19 Oct 2000 12:19:14 +0100 Oh Jay wrote: > _HUH_ ??? *most_unbelievin'_grin_u_can_imagine* :-? > _HOW_ can someone do a "version" of expo 2000 ( or _ANY_ other song or track > !!! ;-) before it even exists ??? *utterly_astounded_facial_expression* :-O > can u please explain this more coherent , her(r) automat ??? > *very_curious_indeed* ;-) In 1981 Kraftwerk programmed their home computers to beam themselves into the future. They have beamed back and forth a few times since then, and recently went back to perform at the 1900 Paris Expo. Certain aspects of the concert are said to have inspired the young Fritz Lang amongst others. Alternative explanation: the title of the Space Negros album was a silly joke. No, that's too far-fetched. :-) KB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dean" Date: 19 Oct 2000 14:02:17 CEST And who can forget Kraftwer's jingles for MTV: -Dial MTV (80s/90s) The Telephone Call (the bit at the beginning) -MTV: Non Stop Videos (during the day) (the short funny tune before adverts when you see that resembles the inside workings of a tape player At least our guys are doing something eh? Still, little excuse for no album since 1991 and even then it was a re-done album... http://www.mattwerk.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dean" Date: 19 Oct 2000 14:27:33 CEST Like the Italian guy, I also need to convert RA to WAV badly. I'm making a Jamiroquai CD for my darling fiancée but rare MP3s running dry. Also, anyone got a small yet effective MP3 - WAV / WAV - MP3 program for me? Matt http://www.mattwerk.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred_Harding@idx.com Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #482 Date: 19 Oct 2000 08:47:11 -0400 uh, folks, before i get any more email explaining how i've gone wrong, or what i've missed. my last posting regarding wanting to talk about sprockets, the balanescu quartet, kw samples and mixes, plus simpsons oblique and direct references to the band (kw) for ever and ever (amen) was pure sarcasm. i can't believe with the richness, depth and beauty of kw's music, that the conversation 'round here tends towards trivial connections both musical and not (dj's, remixes, cartoons and comedy,). doesn't anybody literally HEAR neon light in the song of the same title? can you not picture yourself driving around your favorite city with that song as the soundtrack, or perhaps looking down on the same vista from a tall building? does it not paint a picture in your mind's eye every time you hear it, or think of it? it does for me. some songs purely bring to mind the music, the sounds that make up a song. some songs (like neon lights) bring to mind not just the music, but literal images and feelings. of course, these elements are within me, and the connection is made by me (not elemental in the work itself). what do you DO with kw's music? do you dance to it? do you put it on when you're at work? do you drive with it on? work out? ride your bike? (btw, i think autobahn is better for bike riding than is tour de france). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) An oddity! _INDEED_ !!! *G+* ;-) Date: 19 Oct 2000 15:55:04 +0200 hi kwf's ! our "KoolBrotha" wrote : ~ In 1981 Kraftwerk programmed their home computers ~ to beam themselves into the future. ~ They have beamed back and forth a few times since then, ~ and recently went back to perform at the 1900 Paris Expo. ~ Certain aspects of the concert are said to have inspired ~ the young Fritz Lang amongst others. AAAHHH !!! *pretty_"enlightened"_grin* ;-))) now i know _WHO_ inspired gene roddenberry to do star trek & stuff etc. !!! *ROTFLOL* ;-))) ~ Alternative explanation: ~ the title of the Space Negros album was a silly joke. naaa , kev !!! *"unbelievin'"_facial_expression* :-o fyi : the space negros are a "very serious" combo , mate !!! *smart(ass)_grin* ;-))) ~ No, that's too far-fetched. :-) yup , completely agreed !!! *G+* ;-) however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern germany !!! ;-) yours sincerely , oh jay ;-) formerly known as micROBOT "the new ROBOT voice" ! ;-) *~\^/~* my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de "life's too short to be _ARTIFICIAL_ !!!" *BWG* ;-))) [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) what's next ??? some kw "fan fiction" ??? *ROTFLOL* ;-))) Date: 19 Oct 2000 16:13:27 +0200 hi kwf's ! fred harding wrote : ~ what do you DO with kw's music? mainly i _LISTEN_ to it closely !!! *smart(ass)_grin* ;-))) ~ do you dance to it? well ... sometimes i do ... sometimes i don't !!! *G+* ;-) it jus' belongs to my mood & the particular song !!! *BWG* ;-))) ~ do you put it on when you're at work? yup !!! ;-) it always WERKs well there !!! *MWG* ;-))) ~ do you drive with it on? well ... if kw's music would make my engine run ... then MOST_DEFINITELY !!! *LOL* ;-))) ~ work out? yup , again !!! ;-) it WERKs out very well in this case too !!! *XLG* ;-))) ~ ride your bike? yup , once again !!! ;-) btw : the only other song that WERKs in this particular case is queen's "bicycle race" !!! *ROTFLOLA* ;-))) ~ (btw, i think autobahn is better for bike riding ~ than is tour de france). naaa , fred !!! *pretty_astounded_facial_expression* :-O i usually don't ride my bicycle on the autobahn ... it's simply too dangerous ... for the automobilists !!! *jus'_another_smart(ass)_grin* ;-))) fyi : i've also never managed to do it at the tour !!! *sighs_a_lil'_bit* :-o however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern germany !!! ;-) yours sincerely , oh jay ;-) formerly known as micROBOT "the new ROBOT voice" ! ;-) *~\^/~* my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de "life's too short to be _ARTIFICIAL_ !!!" *ABWG* ;-))) [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: Towa Tei (RE: (kw) Ariston and on and on...) Date: 19 Oct 2000 18:12:58 +0200 Matthew Large wrote: > don't forget towa tei's sample from computer world on his album 'future > music'... Do you refer to his debut LP Future Listening! (Elektra, April 25th 1995)? BTW, Towa Tei has an album entitled Sweet Robots Against the Machine (1999). The following is quoted from the iMusic Club Showcase website http://imusic.com/showcase/club/towatei.html: Towa's interest in art and technology have naturally become even stronger with Sound Museum (Elektra/Asylum, 1998). The enhanced CD version of the album includes several interactive features, including a playful Towa designed companion piece that celebrates the song and the typeface: "GBI (German Bold Italic)" (Arthrob, 1998). But perhaps it's the albums last track, "Everything We Do Is Music," that best captures Towa's attitude as he works toward the next millennium. The track is kicked off by a stutter-step sample of a voice harking: "Musical android." Tinker toy percussive sounds splinter the intro into even stranger cut-and-paste vocal samples, until the chant "Everything We Do Is Music," can be deciphered over a myriad of techno, disco and Kraftwerk-like rhythms. DER AUTOMAT (R) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: (kw) Re: your mail Date: 19 Oct 2000 12:08:40 -0600 (MDT) On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Matthew Dean wrote: > Like the Italian guy, I also need to convert RA to WAV badly. I'm > making a Jamiroquai CD for my darling fianc=E9e but rare MP3s running > dry. Also, anyone got a small yet effective MP3 - WAV / WAV - MP3 > program for me? WinAmp and some other MP3 players can convert to WAV. Any MP3 compressor does the reverse. Programs that convert RA/RM to anything else could get their authors in trouble because RealNetworks file formats are proprietary and supposed to be secret. I have heard that there is a RA to WAV convertor, but I don't know its name. Sorry. --=20 /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nicolau Centola" Subject: (kw) kraftwerk on Free Jazz Festival Date: 19 Oct 2000 19:34:13 GMT To promote the 15th edition of brazilian Free Jazz Festival, the site www.showlivre.com made a retrospective of all editions, with a lot of photos. Check it at http://showlivre.terra.com.br/index.php? link=especiais/freejazz/index.php We had some wonderful electronic concerts here, as 808 State, Björk, Goldie, Adam F, Orbital, The Crystal Method and Massive Attack. As you remeber, Kraftwerk played in 1998. You can read a text about the concerts (sorry, just in portuguese) and FIVE Kraftwerk photos at http://showlivre.terra.com.br/index.php?link=especiais/freejazz/98.php This year we will have Talvin Singh, Moloco and Leftfield. www.showlivre.com will broadcast LIVE four gigs: Greg Osby, Irvin Mayfield, Moreno + 2 (the son of famous brazilian singer Caetano Veloso) and Marcos Suzano (a brazilian percussionist who put samba and electronic rhythms togheter). Check them from 20.oct to 22.oct. Plus photos of all concerts. peace Nicolau http://members.xoom.com/kraftworld _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Frank X. Cordero" Subject: Re: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #482 Date: 19 Oct 2000 19:54:17 GMT Fred Harding writes: what do you DO with kw's music? I remix it. You'll need to accept that Kraftwerk commissioned the Expo 2000 REMIXES. Any talk of a Kraftwerk remix or artist that uses a Kraftwerk sample is totally revelant in my opinion. djfrankx.tripod.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ivo Peeters" Subject: Re: (kw) 2000: A Spaced Oddity Date: 19 Oct 2000 23:27:34 +0200 I didn't hear it but it could be a cover of a song by The Who, written by John Entwhistle. Ivo > > thanx to proxy server between me and the ouside world I'm not able to listen > to these rams. > but I have a question: > is 'boris the spider' a cover of griff pilchard's (in)famous song? > > does anybody know? > > can anyone mp3 them? > > ta # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: (kw) Coverting RA to Wav (or MP3) Date: 20 Oct 2000 00:15:41 +0200 For the people who need a program for that. ra2wav or Streambox ripper can be downloaded from this site: http://info.apnpc.com.au/swlib/Graphics_Multimedia_Tools/Multimedia_Tools= /000QM0.html It's shareware Lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Kaspar=20Larsen?= Subject: Re: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #482 Date: 20 Oct 2000 02:26:27 +0200 (CEST) What I do with KW's music? Well, just the other night I put on Concert Classics and well, I fell asleep. I was sooo relaxed that I fel asleep and slept for the duration of the CD. I think that Concert Classics, Autobahn and TEE are good for relaxation and its likes, whereas CW, The Mix and Expo2K are good as background music. I still need Mensch Maschine and Electric Cafe (I'm doing the German Style @ the moment) before I'm able to classify those. A bit OT: I have recently begun to collect the 'Global Underground' series, which a series of DJ'ing, and I have found that they're good as both background music and dance music... Anyone else who are listening to this serie? ===== "Don't let me die in a automobile I wanna lie in a open field. Let the snakes suck my skin" - Jim Morrison, The Doors - The End (performed live) "The Music is your only friend Until the end" - Jim Morrison, The Doors - When the music's over ______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Få en gratis @yahoo.dk-adresse på http://mail.yahoo.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Kaspar=20Larsen?= Subject: Re: (kw) Re: your mail Date: 20 Oct 2000 02:31:34 +0200 (CEST) Abd as I answered to the other guy, use the program called 'Total Recorder'. What it does, in short terms, is that it records everything that passes through your soundcard. It's said to be the new generation of D rippers. I recall that someone mentioned that the new Karl Bartos CD was watermarked, so you couldn't rip it. Total Recorder can rip it (if you can play it). ===== "Don't let me die in a automobile I wanna lie in a open field. Let the snakes suck my skin" - Jim Morrison, The Doors - The End (performed live) "The Music is your only friend Until the end" - Jim Morrison, The Doors - When the music's over ______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Få en gratis @yahoo.dk-adresse på http://mail.yahoo.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik J. Eid" Subject: (kw) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Future_Se=F1or_Coconut_releases?= Date: 19 Oct 2000 20:36:00 -0400 If you go to the Se=F1or Coconut web page=20 (http://www.multicolor-recordings.de/senorcoconut/) and click the Catalogue= =20 star, a list of four CDs and four records appears. Two of them, "Gran=20 Baile" and "Showroom Dummies", were slated for release in Germany during=20 September. Have they appeared? I noticed that the links in the web page=20 for information on these titles are not active. . . \_ +\_ + o_-/ . O . \-_o -=3D/- . . . . \=3D// . ---------\_______ ||O ___.______ /* Erik Eid */ \____||L/\_____/ /* eeid@wwnet.net */_______________________=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik J. Eid" Subject: (kw) Karl Bartos performance Date: 19 Oct 2000 20:37:15 -0400 Does anyone know if there are plans for a release of the Karl Bartos concert from early October in Hannover? If not, are there bootlegs or MP3s circulating yet? . . \_ +\_ + o_-/ . O . \-_o -=/- . . . . \=// . ---------\_______ ||O ___.______ /* Erik Eid */ \____||L/\_____/ /* eeid@wwnet.net */_______________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) (Off Topic) Global Underground Date: 19 Oct 2000 17:48:41 -0700 Kaspar Larsen wrote: >A bit OT: I have recently begun to collect the 'Global >Underground' series, which a series of DJ'ing, and I >have found that they're good as both background music >and dance music... Anyone else who are listening to >this serie? You bet. I own all of the GU's releases from Sasha, Paul Oakenfold, . Dave Seaman, John Digweed and Darren Emerson sets and I love them. They are so addictive. If you are into this type of music (call it Trance if you will) I also recommend the collaboration series between Sasha and John Digweed called: Northern Exposure. Paul Van Dyk, BT and Chicane are also good. Enrique np: "Tectonics" Adam Freeland # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com Subject: (kw) Will the real fab four please stand up? Date: 19 Oct 2000 22:29:30 -0400 I got this from the What's Online at Hollywood and Vine, the e-mail update list from Capitol/EMI Records. >>> Ken Berry, CEO EMI Recorded Music, says "The Beatles are the most influential band in popular music and no other band has had their degree of chart success." <<< OK, what about our favorite group? Given that they've had little chart success, and none of their albums have reached any certification plateau (gold, platinum, diamond), their influece, I think, has been felt MUCH more, especially in the realm of music production than those others (but then I prefer cheap drum machines and synths to guitars!). The others are known primarily for their songwriting craft. What the dilly, yo? Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: Re: Towa Tei (RE: (kw) Ariston and on and on...) Date: 20 Oct 2000 06:56:17 GMT Der Automat said: Do you refer to his debut LP Future Listening! (Elektra, April 25th 1995)? Yes indeedly doodly I do! forgot the name - soz. Der Automat said: BTW, Towa Tei has an album entitled Sweet Robots Against the Machine (1999). Thanks for the info :) It's next on my shopping list! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: Re: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #482 Date: 20 Oct 2000 13:15:56 +0200 In einer Nachricht vom 19.10.2000 14:47 Uhr MESZ schrieb Fred_Harding@idx.com: > > doesn't anybody literally HEAR neon light in the song of the same title? can > you not picture > yourself driving around your favorite city with that song as the soundtrack, > or > perhaps looking > down on the same vista from a tall building? does it not paint a picture in > your > mind's eye every time > you hear it, or think of it? it does for me. some songs purely bring to mind > the music, the sounds that make > up a song. some songs (like neon lights) bring to mind not just the music, > but > literal images and feelings. > of course, these elements are within me, and the connection is made by me (not > elemental in the work > itself). That's it. Exactly. Well said, Fred! jan ^^^v^^^ ===== "i believe that love is on the world's night side." -- ingeborg bachmann ===== reetze@t-online.de http://www.felix-bloch-erben.de/autoren/drehbuch/reetze.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dale Emery Subject: (kw) What do I do with KW music? Date: 20 Oct 2000 10:19:19 -0700 As a member of a few music lists, I must say that, (for better or worse), this KW list is WAY different from the others. I'm new to the list, this is a first post. I've enjoyed KW since hearing Autobahn on the radio in the 70's. Since 1979 I've made comp tapes of electronic music to accompany my "kinetic art." The tapes have had Jean-Michelle Jarre, Tomita, Gary Numan, and of course, Kraftwerk. Once in a segment on PM Magazine Utah, I supplied a bit of "Airwaves" from Radio-Activity, they did a little feature on my "Kineticon" - a self-contained, mechanized diorama-style display of gizmos. That was the best, and by far the best electronic I've ever found has been KW. Not only was it ground-breaking in its time, but it stands the test of time much better, withstanding repeat play, having more feeling, serving up a metaphorical machine complement like nothing else I've heard. To me, Kraftwerk is synonymous with kinetic, as in kinetic art. Of course I listen to it on its own. KW can make fine background music, but most of the other electronic I have is ONLY good for background. There is nothing similar to selecting a cut like 'Antenna' with the stereo loud! I used to make out in my car listening to Man-Machine, 1979. My girlfriend didn't have a clue at first, but it became a deep-set romantic memory in time. (I remember a review in Creem Magazine or somewhere, about KW being good make-out music.) I've always 'seen' the neon lights in "Neon Lights." All that's in the past. KW is timeless, though. Here's hoping for more tidbits like Expo 2k. D. Bix Emery bixworks.com - --< ^. = |- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) 15 minutes of Bartos Date: 20 Oct 2000 10:55:05 +0200 Today in radio programme Siglo 21 (Radio 3 RNE, Spanish National Radio) has been played Karl Bartos' "15 minutes of fame". DER AUTOMAT (R) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) RE: An oddity! _INDEED_ !!! *G+* ;-) Date: 20 Oct 2000 18:40:55 +0200 Oh Jay b wrote: >~ Their album "Space Negros Do Generic Ethnic Muzak Versions >~ of All Your Favorite Punk/Psychedelic Son" >~ (CD Arf! AA-038 1992, re-release in 1995) >~ included "Expo 2000" and "Ohm". > > _HUH_ ??? *most_unbelievin'_grin_u_can_imagine* :-? > _HOW_ can someone do a "version" of expo 2000 ( or _ANY_ other song or >track !!! ;-) before it even exists ??? *utterly_astounded_facial_expression* >:-O can u please explain this more coherent , her(r) automat ??? Of course. I am very pleased to clarify all of you that matter. Kevin Busby wrote: [...] Alternative explanation: [...] Or the real explanation: Space Negro's Expo 2000 is NOT a cover version of Kraftwerk's Expo 2000. Space Negro's song is written by Erik Lindgren, I think. Allow me to take this opportunity of offering apologies if I misled some of you for not having mentioned this in my previous message. BTW, The Chocolate Watchband -formed 1965 in Los Altos, California- included on their "The Best of the Chocolate Watchband" album (1983, CD Rhino R2-70108) the track "Expo 2000" (composed by Podolor) - 2:33, also included on "No Way Out" (1967, LP Tower 5096). In addition, The Chesterfield Kings, a rhythm & blues and rock & roll band, have a song titled "Expo 2000 No Way Out". It goes without saying these songs aren't cover versions of Kw's Expo 2000 either. DER AUTOMAT (R) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "hal" Subject: (kw) new member... Date: 20 Oct 2000 16:38:24 -0400 hi. my name's annahal, and i'm fifteen. i got into kraftwerk when i was fourteen, when i heard rammstein's cover of das model (*hides*). i thought "hey, kraftwerk might be cool." so i got on napster and downloaded a couple mp3s, which has since turned into something like 30-40 mp3s. i don't have any of their cds yet, though. i have no money and no job :o( i'm from texas (clear lake area) and some other bands i like are: funker vogt, megaherz, rammstein, kmfdm, covenant, nirvana, and the smashing pumpkins. so, to end my lame intro, kraftwerk rocks! annahal... annahal.50megs.com this is not a cause for a chicken taco. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? 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Date: 20 Oct 2000 16:39:18 -0400 hi. my name's annahal, and i'm fifteen. i got into kraftwerk when i was fourteen, when i heard rammstein's cover of das model (*hides*). i thought "hey, kraftwerk might be cool." so i got on napster and downloaded a couple mp3s, which has since turned into something like 30-40 mp3s. i don't have any of their cds yet, though. i have no money and no job :o( i'm from texas (clear lake area) and some other bands i like are: funker vogt, megaherz, rammstein, kmfdm, covenant, nirvana, and the smashing pumpkins. so, to end my lame intro, kraftwerk rocks! annahal... annahal.50megs.com this is not a cause for a chicken taco. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) new member... Date: 20 Oct 2000 13:53:55 -0700 >hi. my name's annahal, and i'm fifteen. i got into kraftwerk when i was >fourteen, when i heard rammstein's cover of das model (*hides*). i thought >"hey, kraftwerk might be cool." so i got on napster and downloaded a couple >mp3s, which has since turned into something like 30-40 mp3s. i don't have >any of their cds yet, though. i have no money and no job :o( i'm from texas >(clear lake area) and some other bands i like are: funker vogt, megaherz, >rammstein, kmfdm, covenant, nirvana, and the smashing pumpkins. so, to end >my lame intro, kraftwerk rocks! Hi Annahal, welcome to the list. If you haven't heard them, you should check out the band Laibach. I bet you'd like them. I'd suggest the albums "Nato," "Let It Be," or "Kapital", to start off with. ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: (kw) worth buying Date: 21 Oct 2000 01:27:40 -0500 Has anyone bought the new expo remixes, and if so, is it worth me dropping my hard earned $6.35 at bigbag.de? If this has been covered, forgive me. I usually just scan subjects and decide which ones to read. You'd be surprised at the number of unread msgs in my mail box. :) Cp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dirk =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6ttcher?= Subject: (kw) New Expo2000-CD Date: 22 Oct 2000 23:48:42 +0200 As I read on www.emimusic.de new and official KW-CD 'Expo2000 REMIXES' will be out on 13/11/2000 (in Germany). Here is the tracklist: Expo2000 REMIXES 1. Orbital Mix 2. FK & Rob Rives Mix 3. DJ Rolando Mix 4. Underground Resistance Mix 5. UR Infiltrated Mix 6. UR Thought 3 Mix Katalognr.: 8896122 Veröffentlichung am 13.11.2000 1 CD Bye, Dirk from Hamburg. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: RE:(kw) worth buying Date: 21 Oct 2000 16:35:35 +0200 The Expo 2000 (remixes) will be released 13.11.2000 as you can check at www.emimusic.de May be is too early to buy. MuSiK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: (kw) what do I do with kraftwerk? Date: 19 Oct 2000 13:34:30 GMT >>>>>what do you DO with kw's music? do you dance to it? do you put it on >>>>>when you're at work? do you drive with it on? work out? ride your >>>>>bike? (btw, i think autobahn is better for bike riding than is tour de >>>>>france). If I were a driver then I'd probably listen to them every mile I drove! Instead, I let them take me to a place of pure beats and melodies when I have had a hard/bad/stressful day at work. they've been with me all my life (particulalry EC) so when I need to forget about the stress of life (girls/money/other stuff) I use them to transport me back to my roots. I hope that makes sense. ohyeah, I also listen to them for production ideas of my own music. >>>>>>i can't believe with the richness, depth and beauty of kw's music, >>>>>>that the conversation 'round here tends towards trivial connections >>>>>>both musical and not (dj's, remixes, cartoons and comedy,). join the club! but I'm sure people here think we have squeezed the last drop of interesting conversation out of the terrific topic.. >>>>>doesn't anybody literally HEAR neon light in the song of the same >>>>>title? can you not picture yourself driving around your favorite city >>>>>with that song as the soundtrack, or perhaps looking down on the same >>>>>vista from a tall building? does it not paint a picture in your mind's >>>>>eye every time you hear it, or think of it? it does for me. some songs >>>>>purely bring to mind the music, the sounds that make up a song. some >>>>>songs (like neon lights) bring to mind not just the music, but literal >>>>>images and feelings. of course, these elements are within me, and the >>>>>connection is made by me (not elemental in the work itself). I hear and see all that kraftwerk intend to portray (I think) obviously we all have different imaginations, but, you know, ohm sweet ohm will always remind me of hot-air balloning, spacelab, well, I'm simply IN a spacelab, and floating around outside it, electric cafe's bubblng pots and pans with the electronic waitresses handing me the beats on a plate, and technopop/musique-non-stop is the ultimate pop song! BEWARE!!!! PLUG!!! http://come.to/bobbybeats http://www.mp3.com/bobbybeats http://www.mp3.com/bobbychills _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ole Fredrick Syvertsen" Subject: Re: (kw) Will the real fab four please stand up? Date: 20 Oct 2000 15:06:27 +0200 I think the Beatles were most influencial when it comes to the sosial surcomstances surounding a band, i.e: the fans, the hysteria and all that. But Kraftwerk are by far the most influencial band when it comes to music. I heard Arthur Baker once said that he couldn't imagine music before "Planet Rock". And since Planet Rock was a remix of numbers/TEE, we can all see where it began. Ole > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 4:29 AM > > Subject: (kw) Will the real fab four please stand up? > > > > > > > > I got this from the What's Online at Hollywood and Vine, the e-mail > > update list from Capitol/EMI Records. > > > > >>> Ken Berry, CEO EMI Recorded Music, says "The Beatles are the most > > influential band in popular music and no other band has had their > > degree of chart success." <<< > > > > OK, what about our favorite group? Given that they've had little chart > > success, and none of their albums have reached any certification plateau > > (gold, platinum, diamond), their influece, I think, has been felt MUCH > > more, especially in the realm of music production than those others (but > > then I prefer cheap drum machines and synths to guitars!). The others > are > > known primarily for their songwriting craft. What the dilly, yo? Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) what's next ??? some kw "fan fiction" ??? *ROTFLOL* ;-))) Date: 19 Oct 2000 21:16:14 +0200 On 19-Okt-00 A.D., Oh Jay carved the following runes about "(kw) what's next ??? some kw "fan fiction" ??? *ROTFLOL* ;-)))": >* G+* *BWG* *MWG* *LOL* *XLG* *ROTFLOLA* *ABWG* et c... http://www.geekhaus.co.uk/recondite/acronym.htm LOL IRL! -- E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Kiplinger" Subject: (kw) Best KW Cruzing Songs Date: 23 Oct 2000 20:34:00 PDT I live in California, and at night is the best time just to go out for a nightly drive in my CRX. KW music puts you in this state of mind that the world can dissapear in a heartbeat. Best KW songs to go cruzing to at 40 mph or more are: "Neon Lights", "Europe Endless", "Autobahn (1991 Remix)" and "Metal On Metal"............ _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mats.kadmark@liber.se Subject: (kw) Expo-remix also on vinyl Date: 24 Oct 2000 10:19:15 +0200 Hi ! I talked to a record shop (Hotstuff) here in Sweden and asked them to import the new Expo2000-remix release (which they would). They said that they had already heard about the release and that it was also to be issued on 2 x 12" vinyl (double maxi). See you later! Mats Don't forget to visit: http://kraftwerk.tsx.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lech Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk in the charts [Was: Will the real fab four please stand up?] Date: 24 Oct 2000 10:53:55 +0200 muziknut2@juno.com writes: > Given that [Kraftwerk] had little chart success, and none of their albu= ms have reached any certification plateau... I'd argue that Kraftwerk are responsible for taking electronic driven pop= out of the mad inventors' shed and placing it in the charts; they've had about as much success as c= ould be expected from them. Ponder the following: KRAFTWERK=20 German album, #30 '71. (More than 50.000 - some sources claim 60.000 -= units sold in Germany.) "...the refinement of contemporary electronic music combined with the dyn= amics of rock." (Sounds) "...most interesting representatives of contemporary music Made in German= y." (Musik Express) __ KRAFTWERK 2 German album, #36 '71. "...the anti-stars of the German rock scene." (NRZ) __ RALF & FLORIAN US album re-issue, #160 '75. "...brining the 'air of other planets' to the cities of the West German w= orker youth." (Die Zeit) "musical Chinese water torture, occasionally passable as background but g= enerally irritating." (Rolling Stone #199) __ AUTOBAHN German album, #7; UK album, #4; US album, #5 '75. (Some 450.000 units s= old in the US) German single, #9; UK single, #11; US single, #25 '75. "...durch elektronische Hilfsmittel skurril-vertonte Autobahnfahrt, die m= =E4chtig abgeht." (Sounds) "[Kraftwerk plays] a significant role in progressive music." (Cash Box). __ RADIOAKTIVIT=C4T German album, #22 '76. RADIO-ACTIVITY French album, #1; US album, #140 '76. (Some 100.000 units sold in France earns the band a gold disc. The bands= French label manager, Maxime Schmitt, convinces Jean-Loup Lefont to adopt the "Radioactivity" s= ingle as a theme for his Europe 1 radio show, which leads the sales of the single to reach a milli= on copies in France. In December '76, "Radio-Activity" is voted 'album of the year' in France by = the listeners of said radio programme.) "Kraftwerk never adhere to traditional music styles." (Cash Box) "...almost a carbon copy of "Autobahn"'s techniques." (Rolling Stone #203) __ TRANS-EUROPA EXPRESS German album, #32 '77. TRANS-EUROPE EXPRESS US album, #119 '77; UK album re-issue, #49 '82. US single, #67 '77. (In September '77, Kraftwerk receive an award for "Trans-Europe Express" = at the Pop Music Disco Awards in New York's Beacon Theatre.) SHOWROOM DUMMIES UK single re-issue, #25 '82. "...a synthesis of electronic effects and rock music with mostly symbolic= quality." (Billboard) "With this album they developed from amateur soundcraftsmen to possibly t= he most interesting band in rock." (NME) __ DIE MENSCH-MASCHINE German album, #12 '78. (Some 600.000 units sold in Germany.) DIE ROBOTER German single, #5 '78. DAS MODELL German single re-issue, #7 '82. THE MAN-MACHINE US album, #130 '78; UK album, #9 '78. (Some 100.000 units sold in the U= K.) NEON LIGHTS UK single, #53 '78. THE MODEL UK single re-issue, #1 '82. "...an almost perfect fulfilment of their musical and political ambitions= ." (NME) "Contrary to the romantic timbres of Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk is totall= y mechanical and thus inhuman." (Melody Maker) __ COMPUTERWELT German album, #7 '81. COMPUTERWORLD US album, #72 '81; UK album, #15 '81.=20 POCKET CALCULATOR UK single, #39 '81. COMPUTERLOVE UK single, #36 '81. "...bierernst-einf=E4ltige akustische Illustration ihrer Computerwelt" (Der Spiegel) "...sensationally good /---/ 'Computer World' is their first pop album." (Melody Maker) __ TOUR DE FRANCE German single, #47; German CD-issue, #87 '99; UK single, #22 '83; UK sin= gle re-issue, #24 '84. __ MUSIQUE NON STOP German single, #13 '86. ELECTRIC CAF=C9 UK album, #58; US album, #156 '86. __ DIE ROBOTER '91 German single, #18 '91. THE ROBOTS '91 UK single, #20 '91. THE MIX UK album, #15 '91. RADIOACTIVITY '91 UK single, #43 '91. "[Kraftwerk] have finally outdone themselves and everybody else, too..." (Spin 8/91) __ EXPO 2000 German single, #35 '99; UK single, #27 '00. "[Kraftwerk don't] tell you the answer. They ask you a question, and the= n dress up as robots." (NME) The main sources for this intel were the official Guinness books about Br= itish hits by Tim Rice, Paul Gambaccini and Jonathan Rice, the official Billboard books by Joel W= hitburn (tack Roger!), The Rock in Deutschland encyclopaedia, and the various books on Kraftwerk. F= eel free to add, correct, and expand... - Tous =E0 v=E9lo! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) Traffic cones Date: 24 Oct 2000 16:12:19 BST Can anyone out there explain Kraftwerk's interest in traffic cones during the early 1970's, (albums, promotions etc). In keeping with the speculation that seems to fly around on this list, I will make the observation that you often find traffic cones on German motorways. Rob. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DepecheCBI@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Traffic cones Date: 24 Oct 2000 11:26:53 EDT In einer eMail vom 24.10.2000 17:15:59 (MEZ) - Mitteleurop. Sommerze schreibt robertevans1@hotmail.com: > Can anyone out there explain Kraftwerk's interest in traffic cones during > the early 1970's, (albums, promotions etc). Ralf Huetter explained during some interview, that they used these cones to block the audience at their early concerts to prevent damage to their equipment. MfG Carsten Bolte. Kiel. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) what's next ??? some kw "fan fiction" ??? *ROTFLOL* ;-))) Date: 24 Oct 2000 18:20:38 +0200 hi kwf's ! emanuel mair ruminated most of my acronyms as he wrote : ~ On 19-Okt-00 A.D., Oh Jay carved the following runes about ~ "(kw) what's next ??? some kw "fan fiction" ??? *ROTFLOL* ;-)))": ~ ~ * G+* *BWG* *MWG* *LOL* *XLG* *ROTFLOLA* *ABWG* et c... ~ ~ http://www.geekhaus.co.uk/recondite/acronym.htm ~ ~ LOL IRL! *CSROTFLOL4STIRL2* ;-))) truly some GREAT_STUFF , mate !!! ;-) thanx a lot for this really funny link !!! *G+* ;-) however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern germany !!! ;-) yours sincerely , oh jay ;-) formerly known as micROBOT "the new ROBOT voice" ! ;-) *~\^/~* my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shilcock" Subject: Re: (kw) Traffic cones Date: 24 Oct 2000 17:28:10 BST robertevans1@hotmail.com Wrote >Can anyone out there explain Kraftwerk's interest in traffic cones during >the early 1970's, (albums, promotions etc). My memory is a little patching regarding this so I could be very wrong... but I do recall some mention some where of some one doing a study in the 50's / 60's about 'imprinting' an image/concept on the public so that they thought of something else... (i.e. Think of the Golden 'M' and you'll think MacDonalds) a trade mark! I believe I read that early Kraftwerk used those cones along the same lines.... see a cone and think of Kraftwerk.... As I said, I could be totally wrong... but this 'idea' has worked on me I can't seperate cones from Kraftwerk. Keep Werking John www.keepwerking.co.uk _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (kw) Traffic cones Date: 24 Oct 2000 13:22:03 -0500 It was under my impression that they took Andy Worhall's idea of taking a simple object and using it as an icon for their own. The traffic cone (especially the one stripe on red style) was quite a common sight in germany at the time of early kraftwerk. I think, to them (maybe), the traffic cone is the most complex piece of art that they enjoy, besides music. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nitrous Subject: Re: (kw) Traffic cones Date: 24 Oct 2000 14:11:25 -0400 Same here..... I was at an ice cream store yesterday and I ordered a vanilla kraftwerk with sprinkles :-) John Shilcock wrote: > I believe I read that early Kraftwerk used those cones along the same > lines.... see a cone and think of Kraftwerk.... > > As I said, I could be totally wrong... but this 'idea' has worked on me I > can't seperate cones from Kraftwerk. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) Will the real fab four please stand up? Date: 25 Oct 2000 09:03:32 +0200 Numbers? I only hear TEE in it - also in the credits of the (newer) records only TEE is mentioned. /Joakim -----Original Message----- ...since Planet Rock was a remix of numbers/TEE... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fecalfunhole Subject: Re: (kw) Best KW Cruzing Songs Date: 25 Oct 2000 04:37:08 -0400 > I live in California, and at night is the best time just to go out for a > nightly drive in my CRX. KW music puts you in this state of mind that the > world can dissapear in a heartbeat. Best KW songs to go cruzing to at 40 > mph > or more are: "Neon Lights", "Europe Endless", "Autobahn (1991 Remix)" and > "Metal On Metal"............ Absolutely. I like 'Man Machine' in the city.. turning corners.. bu- bump bump.. total control of a vehicle moving with slow precision, it's synchopated for driving around structures.. FREE ANONYMOUS EMAIL! Sign up now. http://www.subdimension.com/freemail # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Modular77@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Traffic cones Date: 25 Oct 2000 06:10:06 EDT how'bout that early kraftwerk picture showing the traffic cone going up that gals rear.. what was that one all about?? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johannes =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derlund?= Subject: (kw) Comet melody 2 7" Date: 25 Oct 2000 12:25:42 +0200 Hi, I bought a 7" single with Comet melody 2 some years ago and I can't really find it in any official discographys. It's Comet Melody 2 on side A and Autobahn on side B. The cover has a Red traffic cone printed on it. Anyone has an idea? //johanne # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: (kw) RE:BLEEP & BOOSTER Date: 25 Oct 2000 11:52:42 +0100 I have an album by Bleep and Booster, very Kraftwerk sounding. Can't find anything on the net about them. Does anyone have any recent info about them? Shaun # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) Traffic cones Date: 25 Oct 2000 13:03:50 +0200 Modular77@aol.com wrote: > how'bout that early kraftwerk picture showing the traffic cone going up that > gals rear.. what was that one all about?? It's from the days when Kraftwerk used to administer enemas to innocent young groupees, alledgedly. You can read all about it in Wolfgang's book. Rick Jansen -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott M Barnhill Subject: RE: (kw) Will the real fab four please stand up? Date: 25 Oct 2000 05:10:53 -0700 (PDT) --- wrote: >Numbers? I only hear TEE in it - also in the >credits of the (newer) records only TEE is >mentioned. Yes indeed, "Planet Rock" is constructed around the lead string melody from "TEE" as well as the rhythm track from "Numbers". Take a good listen to the drum beat and you'll see. My guess would be that "Numbers" was not credited since the portion of it that was borrowed was just a basic dance rhythm drum track - something anybody could have used in a song and not necessarily had to fear legal prosecution over. On the other hand, "TEE" *had* to be credited since it was the actual melody itself which was borrowed, and was far too distinct sounding to be considered coincidental. :-) Scott >>-----Original Message----- >>...since Planet Rock was a remix of numbers/TEE... _____________________________________________________________ Get email for your site ---> http://mail.cosmo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ex machina" Subject: (kw) Karl Bartos interview Date: 25 Oct 2000 14:23:46 +0200 i've found an interview with Karl Bartos in the german online-music- magazine Laut.de: http://www.laut.de/vorlaut/interviews/2000/10/05/01233/index.htm there are also some coments from Mr Bartos regarding the Expo jingle in the same magazine: http://www.laut.de/vorlaut/news/2000/10/24/01293/index.htm only german, sorry ! greetings, Claudio Claudio G. Chiriatti chir3301@uni-trier.de ex machina www.machina-online.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Karl Bartos interview Date: 25 Oct 2000 09:30:43 EDT In a message dated 10/25/00 5:24:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, chir3301@uni-trier.de writes: << i've found an interview with Karl Bartos in the german online-music- magazine Laut.de: http://www.laut.de/vorlaut/interviews/2000/10/05/01233/index.htm there are also some coments from Mr Bartos regarding the Expo jingle in the same magazine: >> Can anyone translate this to english?? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Homage to Kraftwerk Date: 26 Oct 2000 09:39:20 +0200 On Thursday 2nd November at 22:00 Terre Thaemlitz, Amira Saqati, Marcel.li Antunez and Senor Coconut will act in a homage to Kraftwerk at the Periferias 2000 Festival in Huesca (Spain). DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: FW: (kw) Kraftwerk in the charts [Was: Will the real fab four please stand up?] Date: 26 Oct 2000 17:43:12 +0100 Just read the album reviews in The New Musical Express and out of about 12 albums, the description, 'Kraftwerkian' was used to describe a track on each of 3 albums reviewed. The people reviewing this stuff were probably crawling on all fours wearing diapers when Kraftwerk were producing the likes of Trans Europe Express. That's what I'd call success and influence. Shaun I'd argue that Kraftwerk are responsible for taking electronic driven pop out of the mad inventors' shed and placing it in the charts; they've had about as much success as could be expected from them. Ponder the following: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) (Off topic) Boards of Canada Date: 26 Oct 2000 10:55:14 -0700 BOC are back with a new 4-track EP. "In A Beautiful Place Out In The Country" is scheduled for release on 27th November. Enrique np: BOC "music has the right to children" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk tribute albums Date: 26 Oct 2000 12:35:38 -0700 Shaun wrote: >Just read the album reviews in The New Musical Express and out of about >12 albums, the description, 'Kraftwerkian' was used to describe a track [...] I have read thousandths of reviews with the word kraftwerk or kraftwerkian in them, simply because our heroes revolutionized the world of electronic music and they still are the reference point to a lot of musicians and critics, and even when some critics chop into pieces some of KW records on their reviews (read: NME, Rolling Stone) they still use them as a reference whenever there's a chance (I'd say almost every time the music is electronic, techno, etc). Anyway, speaking of the real fab four, I have a question. Does any of you know which is the band/musician that has more tribute albums made in their honor? I sure don't, but I'd bet Kraftwerk is among the top five on that list. Bob Dylan, Beatles, Zeppelin, Who, Kinks, etc sure got tons of songs covered by tons of artists, but I don't know the number of entire albums dedicated to them. Here's the list of the KW tributes I know of... 1. "Die Roboter Rubato" Terre Thaemlitz 2. "Electroworld" Elektroids 3. "Trancewerk Express Vol 1" VA 4. "Trancewerk Express Vol 2" VA 5. "Enter The Mix, Depeche Mode Vs Kraftwerk" VA 6. "Music Non Stop" VA 7. "Trance Slovenia Express" VA 8. "El Baile Aleman" Senor Coconut 9. "Krafty Move" VA 10. "Cracking the Code" VA 11. "Basskraft" VA 12. "Possessed" Balanescu Quartet 13. "Technicolour a techno tribute to KW" VA Pretty impressive, isn't? Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Papa's got a brand new bag Date: 26 Oct 2000 15:38:58 -0700 For 40 euro pesos, you can now buy KW's bag at: http://www.klingklang.com/html/katalog.php3?lang=e Looks kinda cool... Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lloyd Subject: (kw) English version <> German version.. Date: 26 Oct 2000 23:00:28 -0400 I downloaded the German version of Pocket Calculator from Napster this evening, and noticed there are distinctly different sounds in the two language versions. Questions: Do all of the German versions of their songs have different sounds, etc. in them? Why? fridge@sympatico.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Kaspar=20Larsen?= Subject: Re: (kw) English version <> German version.. Date: 27 Oct 2000 05:57:02 +0200 (CEST) Yup, I have noticed a couple of differences, not only in the beat and melody, but also in the text (good example: Europa Endlos/Europe Endless. - Kaspar D. Larsen The Rock, NSW, Australia ===== "Don't let me die in a automobile I wanna lie in a open field. Let the snakes suck my skin" - Jim Morrison, The Doors - The End (performed live) "The Music is your only friend Until the end" - Jim Morrison, The Doors - When the music's over ______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Få en gratis @yahoo.dk-adresse på http://mail.yahoo.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: RE: (kw) (Off topic) Boards of Canada Date: 27 Oct 2000 08:54:52 +0100 That's good news. That album is one of my all time favourites. The whole thing is so skillfully crafted, very surreal. Shaun BOC are back with a new 4-track EP. "In A Beautiful Place Out In The Country" is scheduled for release on 27th November. Enrique np: BOC "music has the right to children" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Finarvas Subject: Re: (kw) Papa's got a brand new bag Date: 27 Oct 2000 10:34:45 +0200 Enrique Correa wrote: > For 40 euro pesos, you can now buy KW's bag at: > http://www.klingklang.com/html/katalog.php3?lang=e > Looks kinda cool... > > Enrique > And I was still having problems getting over the skateboard... :p Well yes it looks kinda neat.. but I can't see what kind of bag it is.. is it a backpack or one of these new modern thingies? /Finarvas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (kw) Papa's got a brand new bag Date: 27 Oct 2000 10:54:12 -0500 It looks like a bicycle courier's bag. One strap across the front allows for wonderful stablity when riding a bike. I'm guessing this is one of those "Ralf" things like the cycling shirts where. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "<< RICARDO >> << SUPER >>" Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #484 Date: 27 Oct 2000 16:11:28 GMT Hum, some people here are discussing about: How significant is KW to the Electronic Music, ok. Kraftwerk is not significant , instead of thism KW is the most significant invention of the musicm because KW do the original thing, and anybody after this had tried to do the same, remember KW sounds like sequencers , without them !!!! they are human, imitating the machines, like machines, but humans !! KW will be forever the icon of this Electronic Music Age !! Sorry, this is the true, ItŽs more fun to compute that discuss in how to compute. See ya. Sintetik......The sintetik way of life....... O nicolau centola, seu mail ta com defeito ce sumiu cara !!!! eu agora moro no Rio de Janeiro !! da um alo rcassolatto@microsiga.com.br _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: RE: (kw) THAT Cher vocal effect Date: 27 Oct 2000 19:32:35 +0200 On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:33:46 +0200, Der Automat wrote: > >The apparatus that produces this effect is called Vocalist. >And it's also used on the new Daft Punk 12". And also on Mirwais's album "Production" , particuarly the song "Naive Song" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kent.Pendleton@choicepointinc.com Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk tribute albums Date: 27 Oct 2000 13:09:47 -0400 Enrique Correa included this list of Kraftwerk tributes: 1. "Die Roboter Rubato" Terre Thaemlitz 2. "Electroworld" Elektroids 3. "Trancewerk Express Vol 1" VA 4. "Trancewerk Express Vol 2" VA 5. "Enter The Mix, Depeche Mode Vs Kraftwerk" VA 6. "Music Non Stop" VA 7. "Trance Slovenia Express" VA 8. "El Baile Aleman" Senor Coconut 9. "Krafty Move" VA 10. "Cracking the Code" VA 11. "Basskraft" VA 12. "Possessed" Balanescu Quartet 13. "Technicolour a techno tribute to KW" VA My question is, which of these tributes are worth getting. I have the Trancewerk Express Volumes and Krafty Moves and don't want to buy any more unless I hear from the group that they are any good. Suggestions, anyone? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk tribute albums Date: 27 Oct 2000 12:12:24 -0600 (MDT) On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 Kent.Pendleton@choicepointinc.com wrote: > 1. "Die Roboter Rubato" Terre Thaemlitz > 2. "Electroworld" Elektroids > 3. "Trancewerk Express Vol 1" VA > 4. "Trancewerk Express Vol 2" VA > 5. "Enter The Mix, Depeche Mode Vs Kraftwerk" VA > 6. "Music Non Stop" VA > 7. "Trance Slovenia Express" VA > 8. "El Baile Aleman" Senor Coconut > 9. "Krafty Move" VA > 10. "Cracking the Code" VA > 11. "Basskraft" VA > 12. "Possessed" Balanescu Quartet > 13. "Technicolour a techno tribute to KW" VA > > My question is, which of these tributes are worth getting. > I have the Trancewerk Express Volumes and Krafty Moves > and don't want to buy any more unless I hear from the > group that they are any good. Well, you asking for subjective opinions so YMMV. I don't have all of the above, but: - Enter the Mix is a waste unless you also want the DM mixes. The same KW mixes are on the Trancewerk albums. - Cracking the Code is above average, but not fantastic. - Basskraft is good if you like techno-bass (think Techmaster PEB). Otherwise it'll sound really cheesy. - Possessed is well worth listening to, even if you don't normally listen to classical. It's amazing how well KW songs make the transition to classical instruments. -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk tribute albums Date: 27 Oct 2000 11:18:51 -0700 >My question is, which of these tributes are worth getting. >I have the Trancewerk Express Volumes and Krafty Moves >and don't want to buy any more unless I hear from the >group that they are any good. > >Suggestions, anyone? "Trans-Slovenia Express" is a good compilation, put together by the group Laibach. While there are some generic electronic covers of Kraftwerk music, there are also some more varied covers... Like a folksy string version of "Neon Lights", and a weird hard rock version of "Man-Machine"... Plus some originals by Laibach and their various incarnations. "Posessed" by the Balanescu Quartet is excellent. The Quartet is a 4-piece string chamber orchestra, and they cover five KW tracks with much success. There are also several original compositions, which are quite enjoyable. "El Baile Aleman" by Senor Coconut is the much-talked-about Latin covers of KW tunes that was issued recently. This album is a lot of fun! Rhumba, merangue, cha-cha, tango, et cetera versions of KW hits. The polka version of "Autobahn" is great, as is the cover of "It's More Fun To Compute" which reminds me of the soundtrack to the film noir classic "Touch Of Evil". I can't speak for any of the other comps, as I haven't heard them. My personal asthetic is to avoid electronic covers of KW tunes, because... Well, Kraftwerk themselves ALREADY DID electronic versions of their songs! So it seems redundant. But when string orchestras and latin ensembles get into the act, then it becomes exciting... :> ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kent.Pendleton@choicepointinc.com Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk tribute albums Date: 27 Oct 2000 16:39:49 -0400 Jason Polland wrote: My personal asthetic is to avoid electronic covers of KW tunes, because... Well, Kraftwerk themselves ALREADY DID electronic versions of their songs! So it seems redundant. But when string orchestras and latin ensembles get into the act, then it becomes exciting... :> I agree. I've heard bits of the Balanescu album, and it's great. The Senor Coconut is also incredibly well done, very imaginative. Does anyone else think it has a certain Yello quality about it? Speaking of cover versions, someone on this list once pointed me towards a country version of The Model by Chris Whitley which is also excellent. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "15 Minutes of Fame" Promo Video on Viva Date: 28 Oct 2000 00:48:32 +0000 German Viva showed the promo video for Karl Bartos' new single "15 Minutes of Fame" yesterday on "Berlin House". The show is repeated today, 23:00 CET. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lloyd Subject: (kw) The Telephone Call.. Date: 27 Oct 2000 19:10:24 -0400 Has anyone ever figured out what the DTMF tones are from the Telephone Call? Anyone ever dial that number, say in Dusseldorf, or New York (was EC mixed in NYC?) fridge@sympatico.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Frank X. Cordero" Subject: Re: (kw) The Telephone Call.. Date: 28 Oct 2000 02:18:31 GMT Bruce Lloyd writes: Has anyone ever figured out what the DTMF tones are from the Telephone Call? "I buried Paul!" http://djfrankx/tripod.com/index.html _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Kraftwerk tribute albums Date: 28 Oct 2000 10:49:17 +0200 Enrique Correa wrote: > Anyway, speaking of the real fab four, I have a question. > Does any of you know which is the band/musician that has more tribute > albums made in their honor? I sure don't, but I'd bet Kraftwerk is among > the top five on that list. Bob Dylan, Beatles, Zeppelin, Who, Kinks, etc sure got > tons of songs covered by tons of artists, but I don't know the number of > entire albums dedicated to them. > > Here's the list of the KW tributes I know of... > 1. "Die Roboter Rubato" Terre Thaemlitz > 2. "Electroworld" Elektroids > 3. "Trancewerk Express Vol 1" VA > 4. "Trancewerk Express Vol 2" VA > 5. "Enter The Mix, Depeche Mode Vs Kraftwerk" VA > 6. "Music Non Stop" VA > 7. "Trance Slovenia Express" VA > 8. "El Baile Aleman" Senor Coconut > 9. "Krafty Move" VA > 10. "Cracking the Code" VA > 11. "Basskraft" VA > 12. "Possessed" Balanescu Quartet > 13. "Technicolour a techno tribute to KW" VA > Pretty impressive, isn't? Please, let me add some more: "Blue Savannah Der Deutscher Mix" by Erasure. "A Tribute to Kraftwerk" by Marc et Claude vs. Dr. Sam. "Tribute to Duesseldorf Mix" by Charlie Clouser. "V-2 Schneider" by David Bowie, a tribute to Florian. "Night Drive" and "Sound Of Stereo" by Model 500. "I Sing The Body Electro" by Mantronix. "Surrender" by The Chemical Brothers. "Spare Parts Express" by Orbital. ... and there are many more. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Bartos snippet Date: 28 Oct 2000 15:19:22 +0200 (MEST) A mini dpa interview (German language) with Karl Bartos can be found at http://www.nordwest.net/szene/9946_16700.html Klaus Zaepke -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dirk Boettcher Subject: (kw) Senor Coconuts Showroom Dummies Date: 28 Oct 2000 18:44:53 +0200 Does anyone know the tracklist of Senor Coconuts Maxi-CD 'Showroom Dummies'? Any new versions that are not on the album? Couldn't find this Maxi-CD in local CD-Shops or internet. Dirk from Hamburg. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dirk Boettcher Subject: (kw) Cover 'A Short Introduction To KW' Date: 28 Oct 2000 18:44:59 +0200 OK, not a very new topic and the CD 'A Short Introduction To Kraftwerk' is a very bad product, but does anybody know an internet-link to a cover picture? Or could someone scan his cover for me (cover AND back, JPG < 250 kB)? Thanks. Dirk from Hamburg. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: RE: (kw) Kraftwerk tribute albums Date: 28 Oct 2000 14:20:41 -0600 (MDT) On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Der Automat wrote: > Please, let me add some more: > > "Spare Parts Express" by Orbital. Wait a minute - that's a song, not an album! What makes you think SPE is a KW tribute? Also I don't think anyone has mentioned Kraftwelt yet. All three Kraftwelt albums are KW tributes. None of them contain any KW remixes or covers or even sound a whole lot like KW, but they are pretty good. -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fecalfunhole Subject: RE: (kw) Kraftwerk tribute albums Date: 29 Oct 2000 00:50:30 -0400 'electric dimension' is one of my favorite sci-fi themed albums. 'oxygene', 'computer world' are the other two. Kraftwelt are blatantly talented and unassuming. Brilliant work - and yes, it's not k. I just wish they didn't lose that fourth member. 'retroish' is very good as well, but it's not as themed/direct melody oriented as 'e d' If anyone has ever played magic carpet II, that really beautiful egyptian pipe melody is taken to a totally blissed-out level on 'sonar blow job' Actually, I could rave about every piece. Well, it's not for everyone - no vocals, really. Just maticulously programmed, hook-oriented pieces. .b > On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Der Automat wrote: > > > Please, let me add some more: > > > > "Spare Parts Express" by Orbital. > > Wait a minute - that's a song, not an album! > What makes you think SPE is a KW tribute? > > Also I don't think anyone has mentioned Kraftwelt yet. All three Kraftwelt > albums are KW tributes. None of them contain any KW remixes or covers or > even sound a whole lot like KW, but they are pretty good. > > -- > /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ FREE ANONYMOUS EMAIL! Sign up now. http://www.subdimension.com/freemail # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: (kw) 10" TdF mp3? Date: 24 Oct 2000 14:59:06 +1100 Hi, I'm trying to find this rare version of TdF, anybody got an mp3 of it, they can send me? thanks!!! Vladimir Tittl __________________________________ http://FlowingNet.com A.B.N. 68 312 551 347 FREE Featured Hosting for 1 Year mailto:vt@FlowingNet.com Phone: (+61) 0500 57 5557 Fax: (+61) 03 5165 3463 Register Domain Names for US$17 .com, .net & .org __________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sarahgri@interlog.com Subject: (kw) TEE and the TTC (Toronto Transit Comission) Date: 27 Oct 2000 07:47:23 -0500 >>>>>what do you DO with kw's music? do you dance to it? do you put it on >>>>>when you're at work? do you drive with it on? work out? ride your >>>>>bike? (btw, i think autobahn is better for bike riding than is tour de >>>>>france). I always love to listen to 'Trans Europe Express' on my way to and from work. Since I hit the Toronto subway line, it seems like the right song because I'm riding on a train system. The best thing to do is to cue it up to the part just before the train horn that precedes the beginning of 'Metal on Metal' - that way the horn sounds as the subway is pulling in, and then I can board the train just as 'Metal on Metal' begins. It's really effective! Kling Klang! -Sarah :-) ____________________________________________________________________________ __ _ //\\/__ \ \ \_ //__\\ /\\/\ // \ /__\\ \ /___ / \ / / # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: Expo Remixes (was RE: (kw) worth buying) Date: 27 Oct 2000 18:36:20 +0200 Brian wrote: > Has anyone bought the new expo remixes, and if so, is it worth me dropp= ing > my hard earned $6.35 at bigbag.de? Nobody in the whole world has still bought this item since it's scheduled for release around the 13th November. By the way, the prices at Music Non Stop Ltd (http://www.music-non-stop.co.uk) are: Maxi CD (8896122) =A36.99 and 2x12" pack (8896126) =A38.49. HTH DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: Expo Remixes (was RE: (kw) worth buying) Date: 26 Oct 2000 18:11:23 +0200 Brian wrote: > Has anyone bought the new expo remixes, and if so, is it worth me dropp= ing > my hard earned $6.35 at bigbag.de? Nobody in the whole world has still bought this item since it's scheduled for release around the 13th November. By the way, the prices at Music Non Stop Ltd (http://www.music-non-stop.co.uk) are: Maxi CD (8896122) =A36.99 and 2x12" pack (8896126) =A38.49. Direct Ordering Link. http://www.music-non-stop.co.uk/acatalog/MNS_Online_Catalogue_Kraftwerk_2= 40. html HTH DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Familie de Haan Subject: Re: (kw) 10" TdF mp3? Date: 29 Oct 2000 21:38:00 +0100 would help if you said what's so rare about it... -- LIVING WITH OTHER PEOPLE: Civilization is a religion. Civilized people walk funny. There is always a party going on somewhere. People will remember you better if you always wear the same outfit. Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense > From: Vladimir Tittl > Organization: http://FlowingNet.com Internet Services > Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:59:06 +1100 > To: kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (kw) 10" TdF mp3? > > > Hi, > > I'm trying to find this rare version of TdF, anybody got an mp3 of it, > they can send me? > > thanks!!! > > Vladimir Tittl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Glenn Folkvord" Subject: SV: (kw) THAT Cher vocal effect Date: 29 Oct 2000 21:01:02 +0100 >On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:33:46 +0200, Der Automat wrote: > >>The apparatus that produces this effect is called Vocalist. >>And it's also used on the new Daft Punk 12". > >And also on Mirwais's album "Production" , particuarly the song "Naive Song" And also on JM Jarre's album Chronologie. Glenn www.jmjfkn.com www.folkvord.net/electronicshadows www.egroups.com/group/pspusers # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gunnar wagner Subject: Re: (kw) "15 Minutes of Fame" Promo Video on Viva Date: 29 Oct 2000 22:33:59 +0100 hi At Saturday 28.10.00 01:48, klaus wrote: >German Viva showed the promo video for Karl Bartos' new single >"15 Minutes of Fame" yesterday on "Berlin House". http://members.xoom.com/demouy/kb-15minutes.zip (4.8mb - real video) greetz. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: Re: Expo Remixes (was RE: (kw) worth buying) Date: 29 Oct 2000 18:29:05 -0600 ah. I ordered it from Bigbag.de, and today recieved a "This item is currently not avalible" message, and its now on back order. No worries. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Kraftwerk tribute albums Date: 29 Oct 2000 10:47:12 +0100 Enrique Correa wrote: > > Here's the list of the KW tributes I know of... > 1. "Die Roboter Rubato" Terre Thaemlitz > 2. "Electroworld" Elektroids > 3. "Trancewerk Express Vol 1" VA > 4. "Trancewerk Express Vol 2" VA > 5. "Enter The Mix, Depeche Mode Vs Kraftwerk" VA > 6. "Music Non Stop" VA > 7. "Trance Slovenia Express" VA > 8. "El Baile Aleman" Senor Coconut > 9. "Krafty Move" VA > 10. "Cracking the Code" VA > 11. "Basskraft" VA > 12. "Possessed" Balanescu Quartet > 13. "Technicolour a techno tribute to KW" VA > Pretty impressive, isn't? Der Automat wrote: >"Blue Savannah Der Deutscher Mix" by Erasure. >"A Tribute to Kraftwerk" by Marc et Claude vs. Dr. Sam. >"Tribute to Duesseldorf Mix" by Charlie Clouser. >"V-2 Schneider" by David Bowie, a tribute to Florian. >"Night Drive" and "Sound Of Stereo" by Model 500. >"I Sing The Body Electro" by Mantronix. >"Surrender" by The Chemical Brothers. >"Spare Parts Express" by Orbital. >... and there are many more. * Ralf Doerper (ex- Propaganda and Die Krupps) along with Richard H. Kirk (ex-Cabaret Voltaire), Robert Gordon (Fon Force), Mark Gamble (ex-Krush and Rhythmatic, with Fon Force) and (possible Uwe) Schmidt made "Ruckzuck" (Rough Trade Germany, 1991) 12" under the name of The Technocrat.s. * The various artists 12"-only EP called "All In A Werk's Day (For Emil, Karl, Wolfgang, Ralf & Florian)", released in 1991 on the D.E.F. (Deutsch Englische Freundshaft Records) label. * "Autobahn" by KernKraftwerk (aka Der Plan), included on "City Space: Ata Tak Elektro Compilattion" (Ata Tak, 1991). * On the second LP of OMD, entitled "Organisation" - as the pre-Kraftwerk band, is included the song "VCL XI" -also the name of the first McCluskey-Humphreys' music group-, characters that show up in the countercover of "Radioactivity" LP. And almost every cover version of a Kraftwerk song could be consider a tribute to them. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: (kw) RE: Kraftwerk in the charts [Was: Will the real fab four please stand up?] Date: 30 Oct 2000 09:35:09 -0000 Sorry, I don't have the mag with me at the moment, I'll get back to you tomorrow. Shaun If it's not much to ask for, could you be so kind as to tell me what are those record reviews you refer to? Thanks in advance. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: RE: (kw) Kraftwerk tribute albums Date: 30 Oct 2000 11:23:37 -0000 I mentioned this last week and although not credited as a tribute album as such, Bleep Booster - 'The World of Bleep & Booster' contains tracks that were certainly made with Kraftwerk in mind: 'Techno City' Shaun Enrique Correa wrote: > > Here's the list of the KW tributes I know of... > 1. "Die Roboter Rubato" Terre Thaemlitz > 2. "Electroworld" Elektroids > 3. "Trancewerk Express Vol 1" VA > 4. "Trancewerk Express Vol 2" VA > 5. "Enter The Mix, Depeche Mode Vs Kraftwerk" VA > 6. "Music Non Stop" VA > 7. "Trance Slovenia Express" VA > 8. "El Baile Aleman" Senor Coconut > 9. "Krafty Move" VA > 10. "Cracking the Code" VA > 11. "Basskraft" VA > 12. "Possessed" Balanescu Quartet > 13. "Technicolour a techno tribute to KW" VA > Pretty impressive, isn't? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Kraftwerk tribute albums Date: 29 Oct 2000 11:32:41 +0100 Soleil Lapierre wrote: > On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Der Automat wrote: > > "Spare Parts Express" by Orbital. > > Wait a minute - that's a song, not an album! Oops! ...er... then, all the album "The Middle of Nowhere". None of what I mentioned, except for "I Sing The Body Electro" by Mantronix and "Surrender" by The Chemical Brothers, are in fact albums. :-) > What makes you think SPE is a KW tribute? The title and the sound itself, particularly in the 4:50 area. > Also I don't think anyone has mentioned Kraftwelt yet. All three Kraftwelt > albums are KW tributes. You're right, they all three are "Dedicated to Ralf & Florian". So we could mention Komputer, then? The best would be we won't do. >-) DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Cover 'A Short Introduction To KW' Date: 30 Oct 2000 17:20:57 +0000 Dirk Boettcher wrote: > > OK, not a very new topic and the CD 'A Short Introduction To Kraftwerk' > is a very bad product, but does anybody know an internet-link to a > cover picture? I have a small picture of it in the FAQ. You can see it at http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/recordings.html#intro or http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/further-information.html#book Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) "rolf & florian go hawaiian" !!! *G+* ;-) Date: 30 Oct 2000 19:44:40 +0100 hi kwf's ! did anyone of u already mentioned blaine l. reininger's ( ex-tuxedo moon ;-) ... erm ... "strange" kind of kw "tribute" called "rolf & florian go hawaiian" from his 1987 album "byzantium" on les disques du crepuscule / normal ??? *jus'_curious* ;-) jus' to makes things clear : it isn't a misspellin' , it actually _HAS_ to be "rolf" instead of "ralf" ... but please , DON'T_ASK_ME_WHY !!! *BWG* ;-))) btw : here are the original - & imho indeed very funny !!! ;-) - lyrics to it : "rolf & florian go hawaiian" imagine this image it's my photograph two pale germans wearing bermuda shorts humble guys from düsseldorf teutonic strangers in paradise ( chorus # 1 ) rolf & florian go hawaiian on waikiki beach , buried in sand rolf & florian goin' hawaiian surfin' together , computers in hand "fahr'n , fahr'n , fahr'n auf der interstate" "die roboter aus dem raumschiffen" "kurzwelle aus dem radio" "sie hab'n viel spaß , trans u. s. express" ( chorus # 2 ) rolf & florian go hawaiian on waikiki beach , buried in sand rolf & florian goin' hawaiian surfin' together , gettin' a tan "i like it like that !" welcome , welcome , welcome to computer world eurodisco on the radio don't want to hear about no u. s. of a. ! look out , dear , the europeans are here ! ( chorus # 1 ) rolf & florian go hawaiian on waikiki beach , buried in sand rolf & florian goin' hawaiian surfin' together , computers in hand ( chorus # 2 ) rolf & florian go hawaiian on waikiki beach , buried in sand rolf & florian goin' hawaiian surfin' together , gettin' a tan "i like it like that !" ( respectfully dedicated to rolf hutter & florian schneider , founders of kraftwerk ) ~~~ however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern germany !!! ;-) yours sincerely , oh jay ;-) formerly known as micROBOT "the new ROBOT voice" ! ;-) *~\^/~* my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: (kw) komputer Date: 30 Oct 2000 12:46:29 -0700 (MST) On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Der Automat wrote: > So we could mention Komputer, then? > The best would be we won't do. Too late, you just did! :) I think Komputer does a credible job of failing to emulate Kraftwerk. They don't quite have the sound or the spirit, but they made a good attempt. Relevance: I've heard that Komputer is actually LFO, which is where I think one of the early KW extras went when he left. Am I right? -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) komputer Date: 30 Oct 2000 21:16:14 +0100 hi kwf's ! soleil lapierre wrote : ~ I think Komputer does a credible job of failing to emulate Kraftwerk. They ~ don't quite have the sound or the spirit, but they made a good attempt. completely agreed in this case !!! ;-) ~ Relevance: I've heard that Komputer is actually LFO, which is where I ~ think one of the early KW extras went when he left. Am I right? _NOPE_ !!! komputer were once fortran 5 ( etc. ) !!! ;-) lfo were gez varley & mark bell !!! ;-) they have nothin' to do with komputer nor fortran 5 !!! ;-) btw : what exactly do u mean with "one of the early KW extras" ??? *most_curious_indeed* ;-) do u actually mean karl bartos ??? *very_astounded_facial_expression* :-O if this is the case , u are wrong again !!! :-/ k. b. once WERKed together with johnny marr ( ex-the smiths ) & bernard sumner ( ex-?-new order ) on their project "electronic" !!! ;-) however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern germany !!! ;-) yours sincerely , oh jay ;-) formerly known as micROBOT "the new ROBOT voice" ! ;-) *~\^/~* my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pesky P." Subject: (kw) Re: komputer Date: 30 Oct 2000 22:54:00 +0100 Soleil Lapierre wondered: > I've heard that Komputer is actually LFO, which is where I think one of= the early KW extras went when he left. Am I right? Yes and no. Komputer were dreamt up by Simon Leonard & David Baker, form= erly of I Start Counting and later Fortran 5, while L.F.O. consisted of Mark Bell= and Gez Varley. Bartos collaboration with L.F.O. didn't quite work out, but nevertheless spawned the track "Information" (on Elektric Music's "Espera= nto") and inspired "Kombat Drinking" (on L.F.O.'s "Advance"). - Tous =E0 v=E9l= o! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) komputer Date: 30 Oct 2000 19:39:06 -0700 (MST) On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Oh Jay wrote: > btw : what exactly do u mean with "one of the early KW extras" ??? > *most_curious_indeed* ;-) > do u actually mean karl bartos ??? *very_astounded_facial_expression* :-O > if this is the case , u are wrong again !!! :-/ > k. b. once WERKed together with johnny marr ( ex-the smiths ) & bernard > sumner ( ex-?-new order ) on their project "electronic" !!! ;-) I can't remember which one I mean. All I remember is that I heard that one member of KW (not Ralf or Florian) left and joined/mentored/produced a group with a 3-letter name. I thought it was LFO and either Bartos or Flur, but I guess I was wrong. -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Kaspar=20Larsen?= Subject: Re: (kw) komputer Date: 31 Oct 2000 03:43:08 +0100 (CET) Hmm.. Couldn't that be one of the earlier fellas from the Organisation period? I think that you might be referring to Can or perhaps Neu? ===== "Don't let me die in a automobile I wanna lie in a open field. Let the snakes suck my skin" - Jim Morrison, The Doors - The End (performed live) "The Music is your only friend Until the end" - Jim Morrison, The Doors - When the music's over ______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Få en gratis @yahoo.dk-adresse på http://mail.yahoo.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oleg Rekutin Subject: (kw) saw tone float on sale Date: 30 Oct 2000 21:58:56 -0500 I walked into the Virgin Megastore in New York the other day and was very surprised to see a CD of Organisation's Tone Float in the Electronica aisle under Kraftwerk, along with Kraftwerk's Kraftwerk 1 and 2. Surely these must be bootlegs or something, but I didn't bother checking. Just very surprised :) - Oleg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) saw tone float on sale Date: 30 Oct 2000 21:00:29 -0700 (MST) On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Oleg Rekutin wrote: > I walked into the Virgin Megastore in New York the other day and was > very surprised to see a CD of Organisation's Tone Float in the > Electronica aisle under Kraftwerk, along with Kraftwerk's Kraftwerk 1 > and 2. Surely these must be bootlegs or something, but I didn't bother > checking. Dunno. If it's published by a commercial record label and sold in a new record store, it can't really be a bootleg. It could still be unauthorized, I guess, but the label would be risking legal action. I picked that one up despite the ridiculous price that goes with the "import" sticker. Not long after the same store had "Kraftwerk: Tribal Gathering" and I picked that up too. Wow, only three years to release recordings of the concert. How efficient. -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gekn@ebifsol9.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de (Gerd Knochenhauer) Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk tribute albums Date: 30 Oct 2000 09:40:27 +0100 >My question is, which of these tributes are worth getting. >I have the Trancewerk Express Volumes and Krafty Moves >and don't want to buy any more unless I hear from the >group that they are any good. > >Suggestions, anyone? 1. "Die Roboter Rubato" Terre Thaemlitz There are no 'real' cover versions on this album. Sometimes I don't recognize any resemblance to the mentioned Kraftwerk piece. I would call it piano music inspired by Kraftwerk. 6. "Music Non Stop" VA This is a compilation of Japanese Musicians interpreting Kraftwerk. I think most of the versions are great. Gerd # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: Expo Remixes (was RE: (kw) worth buying) Date: 30 Oct 2000 19:56:33 +0100 On Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:11:23 +0200, Der Automat wrote: > >By the way, the prices at Music Non Stop Ltd >(http://www.music-non-stop.co.uk) are: >Maxi CD (8896122) =A36.99 and 2x12" pack (8896126) =A38.49. >Direct Ordering Link. Pretty expensive, but I'm not surprised, it's manifactured by EMI Germany= so it's best to order it from an online german=20 store such as www.bigbag.de .=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: Re: (kw) 10" TdF mp3? Date: 30 Oct 2000 09:41:09 +1100 > would help if you said what's so rare about it... so I guess that means you don't have it... :-( it's only a test pressing, the track times are very different to the 7" or 12" and so far I've only heard of 2 people that have it, however they are unable or have chosen not to record it or mp3 it for me, I have even offered to send them a free CD :-( regards, Vladimir Tittl __________________________________ http://FlowingNet.com A.B.N. 68 312 551 347 FREE Featured Hosting for 1 Year mailto:vt@FlowingNet.com Phone: (+61) 0500 57 5557 Fax: (+61) 03 5165 3463 Register Domain Names for US$17 .com, .net & .org __________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jzurdo" Subject: (kw) Karl Bartos interview (in english). Date: 28 Oct 2000 17:25:58 +0200 It has many mistakes but here it is. . . " who was at that time actually still in New York? " Karl Bartos is one at the most frequent name mentioned, if it concerns electronic music into Germany. Already before its music exam at the Duesseldorfer Robert Schumann institute 1976 it - up to its door 1991 - was member of the electrical pioneers power station. Karl Bartos: I cannot take a Jingle over Schokoriegel or lady binding seriously. Hanover (alc) - As a CO author it wrote " the robots ", " the Model " and " route De France ". Before its appearance with the EXPO in Hanover SOUND could lead an exclusive interview with the much-busy Bartos. Read that he had to say to his current music and to his past as Soundtueftler with power station. LOUD: Their new single is called " 15 Minutes OF Fame " and the pertinent video plays in Andy Warhols of creative homeland New York. Do you fulfill yourselves with the desire zollen the art form " Pop type " tribute? Karl Bartos: No, that was rather coincidental, like so often, if one makes music. I wrote the piece red ago in co-operation with Anthony. The text does not concern of a Andy be-gets quotation and was anything planning. I am only in this connection again on Andy be-get pushed and then also the books from the shelf took and a little reread. That was however fewer than tribute meant. It made some interesting things in the Sechzigern, knows one those of course, but I reread that again, at that time was like the tendency and that was already very funny. We also checked whether there is still the Factory, but that became no museum. Mark of Bell of LFO made a Remix for your single, already heard you that? That sits in Sta Barbara, operates even on the new Depeche mode disk and sends now and then a Mail that it lasts still somewhat. I expect daily that he sends the result to me. Did you have in former times already contact to it? We had operated at the beginning of the nineties together in Duesseldorf on different things, there however in the long run never somewhat from it became. We made already often together music, but nothing of it was published, thus is that now also a start. Can one see the new material as continuation of the " Electric to Music" times or does give it also new influences? Difficult question... I do not know Oh. I am the latter, which one should ask. That is auto+biographic everything. I transfer, which runs me so each day over the way. The last album had another Background, with synthesized guitars and more singing, but to the new material I would not like at all to say so much. The name Karl Bartos emerges in the past also as producer and an author for other artists. They kept themselves however always dezent thereby in the background. Aren't the footlights appropriate for you? As a producer I did not make so much yet at all. Last year I made " Love & Violence " for Flatz. That was more or less a tailored suit adapted to Flatz. Afterwards it took itself the liberty to change all this again. Aren't you so lucky with the album? there I also stated Ne that the producer existence is not appropriate for me actually at all so much. I will be limited in the future more to own things. They mentioned Anthony, refer red ago a musician, that in its factories clearly on your musical past - both konzeptuell and in music - which is for a feeling to be quoted and as co-operation with a young artist is? I strive not to think so much about it. I take everything in such a way, as it comes. If one thinks in the apron too many and concepts developed, how one wants to operate with twenty years younger humans, then one anyway already lost. I do not feel as teacher and he am also not my pupil, that am a oszilierender process and at the end am always glad one, if somewhat thereby comes out. Through their co-operation with other musicians are it opposite way gone, when that, which power station at that time pursued, by rejecting any co-operation with artists, are they still so considerable. Was for you like the outbreak from a creative prison? Perhaps that was it at the beginning of the nineties. I tried different things out and was what made for me at most fun, co-operation with the Englishmen from Manchester and Liverpool, but which pleases me at most, Songs is to be written. Produce artet very fast in work out. That is then rather a physical thing: if all frequencies are, kneeling knistert it there, one has background noises or not. There is not simply so my thing. Isn't that a creative process? No, not at all, rather a service. Music compose is creative. Sometimes that is arts and crafts, times a composition or a tailored suit, but pure producing is a quite material trade. There one is rather a mechanic, who turns at the frequencies. Monday and Tuesday occur you on the EXPO. Is the appearance on the world exhibition somewhat special for you? I do not know, what me there expected and was not also even yet there. I know the hall not and can nothing imagine. I know that it will give much irregular customers and that the people will not come particularly because of me there. No notion, I hopes that I am surprised positively. Was an idea of you to occur there? No, I was asked by my concert agency at that time. Can you say, when your new album will appear? That would be presumptuous. I bring only once the new single out, which appears in the autumn and then one must see further. I will go on club route through Germany, I occur in the large cities and in the spring some concerts in the whole world will then give. I hope that I can take up thereby still some impressions, which I will then bring on the disk. " the musicians play and the public hear too " as are with your Live Shows. They use also video projections. Which value does the visual for you have, if you occur? There is a difficult relation between music and picture. In the start time - before there was MTV - one spoke about music of " acoustic films ". Meanwhile there is visualization already free of charge in addition. I am a little in concern that the Kids unlearns nowadays to make itself in the heading their own conception of music because her always a template provided gotten and that is very unfortunate. I strive in my type of visualization to supply pictures which leave still enough space for own conceptions. Actually also only the sample, pictograms or partly only diagrams are. Perhaps I use passages from the new video, cut these however again together to a type loop theatre. How do you try with concerts to communicate with the public? The musicians play and the public listen. That is first the grundleistung and also nothing substantial will change there. Now and then one can try to say situativ a few words but that must be also not absolute, because it is a concert and not a Jam session. The public goes also into the cinema, in order to watch a film and not, in order to lead with the actor on the canvas a maintenance. Thus one goes also into the theatre, one would like something preceding to get. That is fewer interactive. I could broken-laugh myself at the transmission " interactive " on Viva. That is already almost zynisch. .The Kids sits before the television, whistles themselves the Colas and haselnuesse clean and the transmission is called " interactive ", marvelously! Which is interactive, a Chat in the Internet or a maintenance is. Can't a concert be interactive, if an artist is drug along by the tendency momentary in the public? That is correct. Music is already somewhat singular and differentiates it from each preservation, if at the same place musicians and listeners meet at the same time, then has that somewhat philosophical and is surely interactive. But not so directly that a large maintenance takes place. The people expect partly that one deals with them and says something, but the most important is that all feel well and a good time have. They are in May again live after six-year break occurred (electronics Beats) and there for the first time also power station Songs to the best one gave. How was that to put after so long time again hand to the material your former tape? I programmed and had the things beforehand her again completely to revise and again create. That was a very interesting work and I is surprised, as fresh for example " the robots " sound, if one plays them live. That does not sound, as if it would be so old. Wolfgang Fluer has in his book " I was accounted for a robot " with Ralf and Florian. How can you actually are to its expressions and reconstruct you it that Ralf and Florian prozessiert therefore against him? I find that rather boring. I am not also on the book. I read it and was perhaps important for my friend and ex tape colleague Wolfgang that to write. Me is however a little too sentimental. On the other hand I cannot understand also that one proceeds so vehement against it. " me interests rather, which 1978 were otherwise still loose " Ralf and Florian have also an image to defend. Oh, some people have to do nothing at all and should rather about other things worry. Fluer represented you in its book as a type fellow combatant. Do you feel taken in in this connection by it? Over Wolfgang I do not want at all to express myself so much. He is a friend of me and what he writes, is very sensitively written. That concerns its feelings and its personal perception of a certain time. It indicates itself gladly and that is it from me also gladly to make and can ten books concerning different things to write. I require thereby also much success to it. If I concern myself at that time with the time with power station, then rather, which 1978 were otherwise still loose, as looked the musical landscape interests me, which people have music made and where were at that time. If I remember that we were in New York, then I asked myself, what was there at the same time still loose. I find that anyway very subjective and do not believe at all that that would interest many people and if nevertheless, then I want to indicate that in my music or in the art form, which I select. I am not a writer. Schriftstellerei is a very much complicated and heavy medium. Some can leave that very well and others should the fingers of it. They wanted to win Wolfgang 1993 for " Electric Music ". Do you believe that between you again a co-operation could come? That was again and again in the discussion. I do not know, perhaps. There are not concrete plans. I operate even the whole year already so intensively on my own music and the concerts. I telephone repeatedly times with Wolfgang and perhaps occurred that sometime. And how do you see the work of your two other former colleagues today? I have there already an opinion in addition, but in addition nothing occurs to me somehow. There so few occur. The latter, which I heard was the EXPO single. Those I bought also directly and her up to now to two or three times belonged myself. That was a type service job or Werbejingle, to which, as I heard, was relatively well paid, which makes me happy for her, but I cannot take a Jingle over Schokoriegel or lady binding seriously. The EXPO is perhaps another product, but the Song remains a Jingle, is a service, and which I cannot regard as correct outputs. Still does contact exist to Ralf and Florian? Relatively few. One hears always times again something, but it is not like that that I must constantly write letters or books. As looks, if Karl Bartos comes home. What do you put into your D-CPlayer? Actually I do not hear much music, but even this morning I belonged myself from that new Radicals " You GET What You Give ", animal good Song with Motown resemblances, superclass! Mr. Bartos, thank you for the discussion. Supplied by Jzurdo. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shilcock" Subject: Re: (kw) "rolf & florian go hawaiian" !!! *G+* ;-) Date: 31 Oct 2000 09:15:56 GMT There's an extract of this track on my site at www.keepwerking.co.uk on the 'ACOUSTIC' page - where, for those of you who don't know, you'll find a rare version of neon lights. Keep Werking John www.keepwerking.co.uk >From: "Oh Jay" >To: "kwml" >Subject: (kw) "rolf & florian go hawaiian" !!! *G+* ;-) >Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 19:44:40 +0100 > > >hi kwf's ! > >did anyone of u already mentioned blaine l. reininger's ( ex-tuxedo moon >;-) >... erm ... "strange" kind of kw "tribute" called "rolf & florian go >hawaiian" from his 1987 album "byzantium" on les disques du crepuscule / _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) "rolf & florian go hawaiian" !!! *G+* ;-) Date: 31 Oct 2000 11:49:28 +0000 Oh Jay wrote: > did anyone of u already mentioned blaine l. reininger's ( ex-tuxedo moon ;-) > ... erm ... "strange" kind of kw "tribute" called "rolf & florian go > hawaiian" from his 1987 album "byzantium" on les disques du crepuscule / > normal ??? *jus'_curious* ;-) Yes, John Shilcock has it on his site and he, I and Ivo Peeters were discussing it here a few weeks ago (where were you? :-) ). Ivo reported that it was also "released on 7" and 12" too and you can also find it on his compilation album 'Brussels/USA - The best of Blaine L. Reininger, vol. 1' (1994)". > jus' to makes things clear : it isn't a misspellin' , it actually _HAS_ to > be "rolf" instead of "ralf" ... but please , DON'T_ASK_ME_WHY !!! *BWG* > ;-))) I must. Why? For some reason I really rather disliked the track when it came out (perhaps because Reininger's rather portentous singing style isn't best suited to a comedy track!). So, why "Rolf"? "most curious indeed ;-)))"! Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) saw tone float on sale Date: 31 Oct 2000 11:49:28 +0000 Soleil Lapierre wrote: > Dunno. If it's published by a commercial record label and sold in a new > record store, it can't really be a bootleg. It could still be > unauthorized, I guess, but the label would be risking legal action. > > I picked that one up despite the ridiculous price that goes with the > "import" sticker. Not long after the same store had "Kraftwerk: Tribal > Gathering" and I picked that up too. Wow, only three years to release > recordings of the concert. How efficient. I get the impression that record dealers rely upon what their suppliers tell them. Illicit releases do end up in record shops, and don't forget the 'Short Introduction to Kraftwerk' saga... Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: RE: (kw) Kraftwerk tribute albums Date: 31 Oct 2000 12:09:39 -0000 Also worth mentioning: B12 'Telefone 529' on album Electro-Soma, (Warp label, 1993) with some very obvious KW samples. Shaun * Ralf Doerper (ex- Propaganda and Die Krupps) along with Richard H. Kirk (ex-Cabaret Voltaire), Robert Gordon (Fon Force), Mark Gamble (ex-Krush and Rhythmatic, with Fon Force) and (possible Uwe) Schmidt made "Ruckzuck" (Rough Trade Germany, 1991) 12" under the name of The Technocrat.s. * The various artists 12"-only EP called "All In A Werk's Day (For Emil, Karl, Wolfgang, Ralf & Florian)", released in 1991 on the D.E.F. (Deutsch Englische Freundshaft Records) label. * "Autobahn" by KernKraftwerk (aka Der Plan), included on "City Space: Ata Tak Elektro Compilattion" (Ata Tak, 1991). * On the second LP of OMD, entitled "Organisation" - as the pre-Kraftwerk band, is included the song "VCL XI" -also the name of the first McCluskey-Humphreys' music group-, characters that show up in the countercover of "Radioactivity" LP. And almost every cover version of a Kraftwerk song could be consider a tribute to them. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "massimo" Subject: (kw) Club.Klang - Music For Mind And Pants - Tomorrow Night in Brighton (UK) Date: 31 Oct 2000 13:17:28 -0000 Awlright everybodee... For those of you that like to D A R N C E to good music....Club.Klang - tomorow night (November 1st) at The Volks Tavern on Madeira Drive, Bright= on (UK). Down on the seafront, east of The Palace Pier- Ring 01273 682 828 if you can't find it. 10pm-Late, =A34 [=A33 NUS/DSS/FLIER] (print this email and save a quid!) Guest DJs from Kosmische: Horton Jupiter, Jim Backhouse, plus Melting Steve, Sam Kant and myself. This is the first Klang for around two months so we have plenty of pent-u= p rock 'n' roll energy to unleash on ya. Steve says he's going to play some acid two-step(!) and I feel an 80s revision sesh comin on (it wasn't all bad, honest). Current fave raves (in no particular order): They Came From The Stars, I Saw Them - Authenticicity (Throw your record collection away) Sklent - Lover King Baby (Sam Kant, Phr@ser and friends' electro-pop sextastic future classic) Kid 606 - Catstep/My kitten/Catnap - Vatstep DSP Remix by Hrvatski (Big u= p your chest you crazy yanks! - vinyl?) Burnt Fried-Man - Fucking Long Time (How long have we been waiting for a whole album of Roll Over Ehrenfeld?) Stereolab - Golden Ball (Man they were good back in the '93) Moebius, Plank, Neumeier - Zero Set (Kraut super-groop perform live acid house well before anyone knew what that was) Moebius & Plank - Rastakrautpasta (!) The Fall - No Bulbs (Mark E's crew groove out proper on this one, 'when y= our home is a trashmount-ah') Shellac - Watch Song (Seething rock violence - too much fighting on the dance floor) Riuichi Sakamoto - Riot In Lagos (Kraftwerk weren't the only ones produci= ng techno blueprints in 1980) Phantomband - Loading Zone (There is life after Can) Kreidler - Circles (Give it time) The Jimmy Castor Bunch - Troglogyte (Cave Man) (Cave, Man!) DJ Banane - Being Boiled (Someone finally got round to pressing up some S= ID chunes) Sensorama - Harz (Born Under a Rhyming Planet remix) - (Jamie Hodge shoul= d be a huge star - anyone notice 'Analog Heaven' in the film 'Takedown'?) Baker & Cicotelli - Incubate & Circulate (Dubed out and dirty circular grooves on Soul Static Sound, anyone know more?) Check out some home-listening mixes on Radio Klang - http://klang.8k.com (if you use Netscrape goto http://live365.com and search for Klang) Radio Klang http://klang.8k.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "christine" Subject: (kw) -Virgin Megastore Online, sucks Date: 31 Oct 2000 09:23:38 -0600 ..They don't seem to carry Tone Float or Kraftwerk 1 or 2 on it, fucking shame. Fuck, fuck, fuck. If I could buy them I'd be able to clear out my coveted old tracks on my computer then, it would free up much more space in my Napster files. -I did notice an album there titled Songs About Fucking under misc. mentions of Kraftwerk, by Big Black? I don't care what they sound like, anyway I had to take a look at their track listing, yep sure enough, voila 'The Model'. Like gee, you don't say. If I could finally get ahold of that naughty '91 (?) sound-check version recorded in Edinburgh ? where Ralf, I assume, sings 'fuck' instead of 'meet', does anyone of you know a source for it or may actually have what I'm talking about? Or is this live version just a mythical thing. ;) Had to ask about it. Also, before I run along now: along the same lines, I've been wondering how seriously 'Sex Object' was written. Who wrote all of its lyrics, was it written anywhere near tongue-in-cheek or was someone or all in the group trying to drive home a dead-serious point. Ha ha, I am not a sex maniac in real life :))), I think it's just because of these only two out of three? (including 'Computer Love') songs entirely concerning love and shit from probably the most popular asexual-acting-in-public music group that it's just been making me really wonder. That's all. Have a good day Werkers, Christine _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Petter Subject: LFO (was: Re: (kw) komputer) Date: 31 Oct 2000 07:10:53 -0800 (PST) According to an old interview with LFO, Elektric Music and LFO did actually work together for the track Information, wich was supposed to be some sort of jingle for CNN or whatever. That unfortunately never did happen, but a little bit later Bartos did a track with that name for the Elektric Music "Esperanto" album. Might be the same song. In this breif article, LFO also claims that Bartos> learned them a lot. All above taken from memory, and possibly not 100 right. Oh, and I really wish that Oh Jay figure would stop writing that way. P I heard that one > member of KW (not Ralf or Florian) left and > joined/mentored/produced a > group with a 3-letter name. I thought it was LFO __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: Re: LFO (was: Re: (kw) komputer) Date: 31 Oct 2000 15:46:28 GMT join the club but I don't think he ever will. I get the impression it's an established part of his web communication now. I doubt he handwrites letters quite the same way! _ ^* %£ ^* £ HEHEHEHEHEHE :( :( :p LOL GFETE FOALUA!!! ... Oh, and I really wish that Oh Jay figure would stop writing that way. P _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: RE: (kw) -Rude Model Date: 31 Oct 2000 15:57:29 -0000 Christine, It's not mythical at all. I have this soundcheck recording on a bootleg CD called Heute Abend. The quality is not perfect of course, it sounds like roadcrew talking in the background but you can hear the music and words. Shaun 'The Model'. Like gee, you don't say. If I could finally get ahold of that naughty '91 (?) sound-check version recorded in Edinburgh ? where Ralf, I assume, sings 'fuck' instead of 'meet', does anyone of you know a source for it or may actually have what I'm talking about? Or is this live version just a mythical thing. ;) Had to ask about it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "christine" Subject: (kw) re: -Rude Model, etc. .. Date: 31 Oct 2000 10:32:45 -0600 Ahhhh, quality's not a priority, I would still love to come across it somehow! :) Thanks Shaun! Mike, thank you so much, even though I've yet to try there! O/T: forget about me being a good office 'werker' as well ;), I just proudly spent about 45 minutes writing that post in my own office. Pretty damn well worth it! _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) "rolf & florian go hawaiian" !!! *G+* ;-) Date: 31 Oct 2000 18:08:03 +0100 hi kwf's ! our "Kool Brutha" kev wrote : ~ Yes, John Shilcock has it on his site and he, I and Ivo Peeters ~ were discussing it here a few weeks ago (where were you? :-) ). i know that very well , kev !!! *smart_grin* ;-) fyi : i was _HERE_ too !!! *hehehe* ;-))) but if i remember KorreKtly , _NO-ONE_ has mentioned the song in the current kw "tributes" debate here again !!! ;-) am i right about that ??? *jus'_curious* ;-) ~ Ivo reported that it was also "released on 7" and 12" too ~ and you can also find it on his compilation album ~ 'Brussels/USA - The best of Blaine L. Reininger, vol. 1' ~ (1994)". btw : thanx for the interestin' info , mate !!! ;-) ~ For some reason I really rather disliked the track when it came out ~ (perhaps because Reininger's rather portentous singing style ~ isn't best suited to a comedy track!). well ... herr reininger's "vocal acrobatix" ( fyi : what kev described as his "rather portentous singin' style" !!! ;-) jus' really makes it such a great "comedy track" ... imho !!! *sly_grin* ;-) ~ So, why "Rolf"? "most curious indeed ;-)))"! i haven't got the slightest clue , mate !!! *XLG* ;-))) maybe u ask herrn reininger himself !? *another_smart(ass)_grin* ;-))) however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern germany !!! ;-) yours sincerely , oh jay ;-) formerly known as micROBOT "the new ROBOT voice" ! ;-) *~\^/~* my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) petter's & matthew's "wishes" !!! *G+* ;-) Date: 31 Oct 2000 18:09:34 +0100 hi kwf's ! petter wrote : ~ Oh, and I really wish that Oh Jay figure would stop ~ writing that way. *LOL* ;-))) maybe u can ask santa claus this year again , if he can fulfill u your "wishes" ... incl. the above one !!! *HAR!HAR!HAR!* ;-))) matthew large wrote : ~ join the club ~ but I don't think he ever will. well ... u are absolutely right about that , mate !!! *hehehe* ;-))) it's part of my _INDIVIDUALITY_ & part of my "presence" in the "webwideworld" too !!! *BWG* ;-))) ~ I get the impression it's an established part ~ of his web communication now. _EXACTLY_ !!! *G+* ;-) ~ I doubt he handwrites letters quite the same way! *ROTFLOLA* ;-))) GEE !!! >:-O u would be really surprised , if u'd seen my handwritin' "style" !!! *MWG* ;-))) however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern germany !!! ;-) yours sincerely , that oh jay "figure" !!! *XLG* ;-))) formerly known as micROBOT "the new ROBOT voice" ! ;-) *~\^/~* my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Karl Bartos & Orbital Date: 31 Oct 2000 18:02:29 +0100 According to Side-Line magazine, Karl Bartos has recently signed with the label Orbit Records of Germany. And the same magazine also informs the following: Orbital remix Kraftwerk The UK dance act Orbital has remixed German electronic pioneers Kraftwerk for a remix EP of the track "Expo 2000". The dance duo remixed the track over the Summer, and it will be released on November 13th through EMI electrola in Germany. "Expo 2000" was originally recorded by Kraftwerk as the official theme of the Expo 2000 exhibition in Hanover. In further Orbital news, the band has completed all the tracks for the forthcoming studio album, which is set to be released in March through London records. End of quote. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jens Bang Petersen (jbp)" Subject: (kw) off topic: NEOTEK Date: 31 Oct 2000 18:32:47 +0100 Hi all NEOTEK released a cd in the mid-90s with a blend of ebm & electronica. Now NEOTEK is rebuilding and is now a band with 8 members (including me). If you remember NEOTEK - and liked the music we made - then you might be interested in your new homepage that contains a lot of unreleased full length mp3s and some work-in-progress demos. It's not exactly Kraftwerkian music, but we think it's pretty good electronica. Enjoy...... Jens Bang Petersen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jens Bang Petersen (jbp)" Subject: (kw) off topic: NEOTEK again Date: 31 Oct 2000 18:52:01 +0100 ...and the URL is: www.neotek.as (how absentminded can one be?) NEOTEK released a cd in the mid-90s with a blend of ebm & electronica. Now NEOTEK is rebuilding and is now a band with 8 members (including me). If you remember NEOTEK - and liked the music we made - then you might be interested in your new homepage that contains a lot of unreleased full length mp3s and some work-in-progress demos. It's not exactly Kraftwerkian music, but we think it's pretty good electronica. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Language Date: 31 Oct 2000 17:51:35 +0000 Oh Jay wrote: > ~ So, why "Rolf"? "most curious indeed ;-)))"! > > i haven't got the slightest clue , mate !!! *XLG* ;-))) Pah, and we thought you were privy to all sorts of insider secrets. So it is after all down to Blaine being confused, or perhaps being cautious about libel accusations! Kraftwerk did in any event come up with some good surf tracks on 'Ralf [sic!] & Forian'! >> ~ Oh, and I really wish that Oh Jay figure would stop >> ~ writing that way. >> > *LOL* ;-))) maybe u can ask santa claus this year again , if he can fulfill > u your "wishes" ... incl. the above one !!! *HAR!HAR!HAR!* ;-))) :-D OJ is a cheerful character, you have to give him that. I expect he even dresses up as Santa at Christmas: "HoHoHo ;-)))". God that's a scary thought... christine wrote: > fucking shame. Fuck, fuck, fuck. > [...] >If I could > finally get ahold of that naughty '91 (?) sound-check version recorded in > Edinburgh ? where Ralf, I assume, sings 'fuck' instead of 'meet', does anyone > of you know a source for it or may actually have what I'm talking about? Or is > this live version just a mythical thing. ;) It's in the f-ing FAQ. ;-D I don't know how easy it is to get hold of a copy though. > Had to ask about it. Also, before I run along now: along the same lines, I've > been wondering how seriously 'Sex Object' was written. Who wrote all of its > lyrics, was it written anywhere near tongue-in-cheek or was someone or all in > the group trying to drive home a dead-serious point. That's a good question. And if it is tongue-in-cheek, whose tongue, and whose cheek? Maybe Wolfgang knows. > I think it's just because of these only two out of > three? (including 'Computer Love') songs entirely concerning love and shit You mean like an album by Coil? :-) K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) language ... is a _VIRUS_ !!! *XLG* ;-))) Date: 31 Oct 2000 19:40:03 +0100 hi(gher) y' all !!! *G+* ;-) the big "K" wrote again : ~ Pah, and we thought you were privy to all sorts of insider secrets. well ... if IT_IS a so called "insider secret" ... _WHY_ should _I_ reveal it then , eh ??? *slyest_grin_u_can_imagine* ;-))) fyi : i like to keep my "insider secrets" _SAVE_ , mate !!! *ROTFLO_LOUDEST* ;-))) ~ So it is after all down to Blaine being confused, maybe ... ;-) ~ or perhaps being cautious about libel accusations! more obvious ... but then again ... ;-) ~ Kraftwerk did in any event come up with some good ~ surf tracks on 'Ralf [sic!] & Forian'! *oh_jay_sings_along_the_lines_of_"wir_surf'n_,_surf'n_,_surf'n_auf_der_daten autobahn_!!!"* ;-))) ~ :-D OJ is a cheerful character, you have to give him that. thanx "bunches" , "K" !!! *most_thankful_grin* ;-))) ... & the big "K" is MOST_DEFINITELY the "Koolest Brutha" on this list ... imho !!! *BWG* ;-))) ~ I expect he even dresses up as Santa at Christmas: well ... it's always pretty *kewl* to earn a few XXX-tra "bucks" for XXX-mas time , isn't it ??? *jus'_another_sly_grin_again* ;-))) ~ "HoHoHo ;-)))". God that's a scary thought... btw : i'll send u a picture of "santa jay" at the beginnin' of next year & u'll see _HOW_ "scary" i can look like !!! *MWG* ;-))) *HoooHoooHooo* ;-))) however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern germany !!! ;-) yours sincerely , "santa jay" *G+* ;-) formerly known as micROBOT "the new ROBOT voice" ! ;-) *~\^/~* my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Romulus Giovanni" Subject: (kw) Original Version verses Adapted Date: 31 Oct 2000 18:53:00 GMT Hi Guys, Recently I've been enjoying the original German versions of the Kraftwerk songs (especially of the ComputerWorld collection). For some reason I feel that a bit more was put into those versions than in those adapted to other languages. Like the last seconds of Pocket Calculator are way cooler in the Taschenrechner. Is this characteristic of all their songs, or is it just me? Zamir _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eduardo Marcel Macan Subject: (kw) Golden Shower Video Clip Available Date: 31 Oct 2000 16:59:12 -0200 Some time ago I posted about Golden Shower and their music which won the MTV Video Music Awards Brazilian Edition, in the Best Electronic Video Category. Now they made their video available on their website (well, their website was also made available recently :) ) It is worth looking at! If you don't recall their song "videocomputersystem" is made entirely of Atari samples. The videoclip goes the same style. The connection between the game "pitfall" and "The Matrix" is hilarious :) Their Homepage: http://www.goldenshower.gs The Video Download: http://www.goldenshower.gs/vejaoclipe.html Other music by GS (mp3): http://www.goldenshower.gs/asmusicas.html They have the video both in quicktime and realvideo, realvideo is 750K, quicktime is 7.5Mb but the realvideo version is much blurred. See it in Real Video, and if you like it, see it again as quick time :) The website is currently in portuguese. --macan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lech Subject: (kw) Re: -Virgin Megastore Online, sucks Date: 31 Oct 2000 20:31:13 +0100 Christine wondered: > /.../ it's just because of these only two out of three? (including 'Com= puter Love') songs entirely concerning love /.../ from probably the most = popular asexual-acting-in-public music group... The ambiguities of Kraftwerk's sparse lyrics enable a broad range of diff= erent interpretations. It's for instance quite possible that "Sex Object" deal= s with the same cold, calculated commercialisation of lust and technological ona= nism as Ballard's Crash - "a new sexuality born from perverse technology." Depen= ding on outlook quite a few of Kraftwerk's tracks - from "Die Roboter" to "It's M= ore Fun to Compute" (More fun than wha'? Sex?) - as well as their seemingly andr= ogynous image (well, nowadays anyway) could be interpreted to flirt with such not= ions. =20 Though to some Kraftwerk appear a complete turn-off, to others (Hi Robot!= :] ) they certainly don't lack sex-appeal. ("Von aussen warm, von innen kiehl= ! Zur Haelfte Sex, zur Haelfte Peal!") And the way Fleur tells it in his infam= ous book, they sure don't (or didn't) mind some easy action; it's a myth that abundant cycling impares ones sex-drive - ask any of the riders wives. At the very least, I'd say Kraftwerk are responsible for inspiring the soundtrack to Ballard's nightmare marriage between sex and technology, wh= ich has seeped into popular conscience through the efforts of the countless follo= wers of their musical vision from The Normal's "Warm Leatherette" and on. Time f= or my pill... - Tous =E0 v=E9lo! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kent.Pendleton@choicepointinc.com Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk tribute albums Date: 31 Oct 2000 11:09:01 -0500 Gerd offered: "6. "Music Non Stop" VA This is a compilation of Japanese Musicians interpreting Kraftwerk. I think most of the versions are great." Sounds cool. I've looked around the web a little, but cannot find a place to order it. Any suggestions? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) saw tone float on sale Date: 31 Oct 2000 12:59:00 -0700 (MST) On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Kevin Busby wrote: > I get the impression that record dealers rely upon what their suppliers tell > them. Illicit releases do end up in record shops, and don't forget the > 'Short Introduction to Kraftwerk' saga... True. I wish the stores hadn't withdrawn that one so fast - I wanted a copy. Somebody blew the whistle too early. I'm thinking that the Tribal Gathering disk I picked up might actually be a commercially released bootleg. Although Kling Klang is credited on the cover, the only other production information is "Electronic Music Inc." The disk number is "KTG01" - obviously made-up for the occasion. -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: RE: (kw) Kraftwerk tribute albums Date: 31 Oct 2000 13:03:09 -0700 (MST) On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Shaun Vaughan wrote: > Also worth mentioning: B12 'Telefone 529' on album Electro-Soma, (Warp > label, 1993) with some very obvious KW samples. I actually used that one as an example in a class presentation I made about KW. I played a segment of The Telephone Call first, and then part of that one. :) > * The various artists 12"-only EP called "All In A Werk's Day (For Emil, > Karl, Wolfgang, Ralf & Florian)", released in 1991 on the D.E.F. (Deutsch > Englische Freundshaft Records) label. I have this one thanks to another list member. I tried to make MP3s from it, but they came out really bad thanks to my poor stereo equipment. If anyone else has made good MP3s from it, I would appreciate a copy! -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) emil schult !!! Date: 31 Oct 2000 21:10:33 +0100 hi kwf's ! jus' one question to y' all : does _ANYBODY_ on this list actually know what herr schult is doin' by now ??? *most_curious_indeed* ;-) however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern germany !!! ;-) yours sincerely , oh jay ;-) formerly known as micROBOT "the new ROBOT voice" ! ;-) *~\^/~* my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eduardo Monteiro" Subject: (kw) test Date: 31 Oct 2000 19:12:11 -0200 test kraftwerk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "christine" Subject: (kw) So... Date: 31 Oct 2000 15:58:00 -0600 ..'The ambiguities of Kraftwerk's sparse lyrics enable a broad range of different interpretations.' Can certainly understand right off the bat this. Me and my vivid imagination always are in a short search for sources of actual details! I was strictly imagining that they were addressing human physical sex, 'It's for instance quite possible that "Sex Object" deals with the same cold, calculated commercialisation of lust and technological onanism as Ballard's Crash - "a new sexuality born from perverse technology" ' -now I can imagine much better their possible point of view from this angle, unrealized before. 'Though to some Kraftwerk appear a complete turn-off, to others (Hi Robot!:] ) they certainly don't lack sex-appeal.' -No Kidding! ;), I am the very hottest for Ralf, the least hottest for Wolfgang. If they hadn't made videos (but unfortunately now for them, they have) I wouldn't be here blabbing this off. I Study 'Trans-Europa Express' and 'The Telephone Call', their looks all fascinate me because men in my area I am prejudicely (let's admit it) afraid do not come as well-packaged as them. Walk or drive around Wilson, NC on a regular basis and then fly to Duesseldorf just like I did back in July (I have a friend there, I didn't go with any nutty stalking motives in mind!) and take notice of just how beautiful the men seem there in comparison. It's just me. I'm too visually-stimulated. Ugh. 'And the way Fleur tells it in his infamous book, they sure don't (or didn't) mind some easy action; it's a myth that abundant cycling impares ones sex-drive - ask any of the riders wives.' Well now I'll be keeping This in mind whenever I look at Ralf! (*Sigh* I am sure it's Only a myth!) The things that surface on this list. ;) Christine _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Dieffenbach Subject: (kw) Yamo work? Date: 31 Oct 2000 20:32:09 -0600 I am curious if anyone knows about whether Wolfgang Flur is working on any new material for Yamo. Is there such thing as "Serenity Supreme"? Is that what "Time Pie" was originally entitled? Oh, by the way... I know it has often been the talk here about Airwaves and The Merry Peasant. Has anyone else noticed the similarity between Metropolis and the theme music for the movie BladeRunner? Of course, Vangelis are fans of Kraftwerk! Just thought that it was pretty obvious... whenever I hear the theme music, I just want to go "mehhhhhh trohhhhhh po lis..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fecalfunhole Subject: Re: (kw) saw tone float on sale Date: 01 Nov 2000 00:17:54 -0500 Compared with their attitude about releasing new material, it's benevolent that we get anything at all. They were steady for awhile until that fateful day when - who? EMI? casually turned the thrill of releasing new music into the bitter resentment of rejection from that goal. Whoever the person is that turned down 'techno pop' had best never meet me.. k might have fragile egos and have certainly never disappointed (aside from most of 'the mix' - flame ON) so what makes some moron from a recording industry that knows k as legendary, turn them down? Isn't it really about money? Ooh, here's an idea - maybe they had created their own version of Kraftwerk and didn't want the competition for their own product? Could you imagine? It happens all the time with boy/girl bands. It's almost comical to imagine Nelson and Kip Winger dressed in space suits (moreso if they were depressurizing slowly). Does someone have something against any of the members themselves or their representatives? I wonder what could force a person to make a decision that blatantly cruel? The boys work (and play) for years tuning up a new mecha-beast for art, not industry. They are widely appriciated, even scoring points in the US with 'autobahn', 'tdf', various 'computer world', etc. - did the 'the model' make it out here? They have a few full-lengths in their belt. They are intelligent, decent and respectable members of the community.. even the music community (who are not always known for their Emily Post etiquette). It's not as if GG Alan is asking to put on childrens puppet theatre. These gentlement are elegant and classy. Well-dressed, with an unmistakable, distinct style. Genius. What transforms a potentially very profitable group into an unappealing business venture? I personally feel cheated by the music industry and can only sympathise with k for having to endure such a belittling experience. Excuse the style - we are celebrating halloween. Boo, mo fo. .b > > On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Oleg Rekutin wrote: > > > I walked into the Virgin Megastore in New York the other day and was > > very surprised to see a CD of Organisation's Tone Float in the > > Electronica aisle under Kraftwerk, along with Kraftwerk's Kraftwerk 1 > > and 2. Surely these must be bootlegs or something, but I didn't bother > > checking. > > Dunno. If it's published by a commercial record label and sold in a new > record store, it can't really be a bootleg. It could still be > unauthorized, I guess, but the label would be risking legal action. > > I picked that one up despite the ridiculous price that goes with the > "import" sticker. Not long after the same store had "Kraftwerk: Tribal > Gathering" and I picked that up too. Wow, only three years to release > recordings of the concert. How efficient. > > -- > /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ FREE ANONYMOUS EMAIL! Sign up now. http://www.subdimension.com/freemail # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/