From: Kyong Lee - ICQ# 8613578 Subject: Re: (kw) worried Date: 01 May 1998 08:32:59 -0500 (CDT) > > I know all too well. Here in Chicago the buzz is definitely going. I am > kinda hoping they might add a second show. But from the looks of the > schedule, it looks bleak. > > Ernie The latest issue of Chicago Reader (kind of like the Chicago equivalent to New York's Village Voice) has a full page color ad of the Kraftwerk show. Hope that will generate some much needed media buzz. Is anyone going to organize a get-together? And does anyone know security at Riviera to get us backstage? :) Kyong Lee YMO Page: http://www.tezcat.com/~klee/ymo.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CADBOT Subject: Re: (kw) worried Date: 01 May 1998 09:26:55 -0700 Kyong Lee - ICQ# 8613578 wrote: > The latest issue of Chicago Reader (kind of like the Chicago equivalent to > New York's Village Voice) has a full page color ad of the Kraftwerk show. > Hope that will generate some much needed media buzz. > > Is anyone going to organize a get-together? How 'bout all the people on this list bring a showroom dummy that looks like themselves to the show, so they are easily identifiable. Maybe my robot will show up and view the concert for me. Robots playing for robots. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Havoc2PSTN Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Chicago vs. Detroit Date: 01 May 1998 11:47:25 EDT Well, I knew the Balcony had seats.... but would you rather see Kraftwerk from the Balcony, or at the front of the stage? Uh huh.... that's what I thought, too.... Havoc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Craig Land" Subject: (kw) I am surprised Noone Has mentioned.... Date: 01 May 1998 17:00:31 +0100 .....the upcoming Depeche Mode World Tour! Dates for London, Manchester and Birmingham England have been announced together with various other European dates. USA dates yet to be announced, but it is anticipated that you guys in the US can expect them around November/December. Check out the official Depeche Mode web site (can't remember the address!). Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Schepers Subject: (kw) depeche mode live Date: 01 May 1998 17:13:32 +0200 i guess it's www.depechemode.com or if you speak german, try this one: = www.depechemode.de actually, when comparing KW's and DM's live performances, some = resemblences are quite obvious: during their violator tour, DM had a very KW-like stage-design. 4 = musicans standing in a row behind their machines. remember ?! ;) regards, andreas=20 ---- Andreas Schepers NetMedia GmbH=09 Information Design Schubertstra=DFe 8 schepers@net-media.de 66111 Saarbruecken http://www.net-media.de -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Craig Land [SMTP:cland@acl.memec.com] Gesendet am: Freitag, 1. Mai 1998 18:01 An: kraftwerk@xmission.com Betreff: (kw) I am surprised Noone Has mentioned.... .....the upcoming Depeche Mode World Tour! Dates for London, Manchester and Birmingham England have been announced together with various other European dates. USA dates yet to be = announced, but it is anticipated that you guys in the US can expect them around November/December. Check out the official Depeche Mode web site (can't remember the = address!). Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original = sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: = http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Chicago vs. Detroit Date: 01 May 1998 12:32:11 -0400 >> Havoc2PSTN wrote: > Well, I knew the Balcony had seats.... but would you rather see Kraftwerk from > the Balcony, or at the front of the stage? Uh huh.... that's what I thought, > too.... << Well, certainly *I'd* rather see them from up front on the main floor! :-) I was simply posting the info for anyone who has not been to the State Theatre before. Besides, since obviously there is only so much room right in front of the stage, given a choice of being stuck somewhere at the middle or back of the main floor and a front row seat on the balcony, I'd take the balcony. Much easier than repeating the words "excuse me" 1000 times in order to see. Of course that's assuming someone else bests me to my fav spot right in front of Ralf at the stage. (I just gotta play a couple of notes during Pocket Calc on that expensive looking MIDI controller!) :-P Take care. BTW: If anyone wants a *perfect* version of Number/Computer World from TG '97, you can get it from: http://efofex.simplenet.com/mp3/tg97_numbers.zip Sorry for the raw link. I have not been able to finish moving my web site yet. When all is done, the link will be available from the Active-K area of resonance underground. -- -John 'efofex' Talbert _____________________________________________________________________ r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/index.html Featuring: - The electronica of 'EFOFEX' - Custom created Kraftwerk MIDI files for the AWE64 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: (kw) Sitting? Eh? Date: 01 May 1998 18:01:19 +0100 EZwerk wrote: > > Maybe Kraftwerk will have > their crew do some research and try to get a good sound going at the > Riv. > > Ernie Don't hold your breath...... BTW, am i missing something, or do you guys over the other side of the pond prefer to sit?? Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mack" Subject: (kw) the other 2 robots Date: 01 May 1998 11:18:27 -0500 anyone out there have any clue who the other 2 robots are? i heard a (totaly unsubstantiated') rumour that one was 'one of those guys from cabaret voltaire' now that i have done my own little part in perpetrating this rumour maybe someone KNOWS what the real deal is it would be a real weird gig for rh kirk, huh maybe steve malinder would be more likely programmed d # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EZwerk Subject: (kw) Re: Sitting? Eh? Date: 01 May 1998 12:41:45 +0000 Jules Seifert wrote: > BTW, am i missing something, or do you guys over the other side of the > pond prefer to sit?? Hell no... unless it's an opera or something of that nature. Ernie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mack" Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Sitting? Eh? Date: 01 May 1998 13:26:56 -0500 >Jules Seifert wrote: >> BTW, am i missing something, or do you guys over the other side of the >> pond prefer to sit?? most of us don't , but some are getting long in the tooth also reserved seating is oftened preferred for the height-impared on either side of the pond my wife will never go to another sold-out show at the Riv after two where she saw nothing but elbows # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mack" Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Chicago vs. Detroit Date: 01 May 1998 13:28:27 -0500 >(I just gotta play a couple of notes during Pocket Calc on >that expensive looking MIDI controller!) synclavier ? anyone :} # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) Golden Voice, L.A. Promoter Date: 01 May 1998 13:36:20 -0700 ERROR ERROR ERROR OOPS!! I posted info from the tour page on http://www.tickets.de/ to alt.music.sythpop -and God knows WHERE else- and they have the number for Golden Voice, the Promoter in Los Angeles, instead of the number for Ticketmaster!*ULP*! I got a letter from "Danielle" at Golden Voice complaining of getting phone calls meant for Ticketmaster because of MY posting/s. :[[[[ I gotta FIND all of these posts and add corrections ASAP- but, I have to run into town right away---- *ARGH* If anybody's cruising the MusiK News Groups today and sees my incorrect postings, please add a note with THIS number for Ticketmaster: 213-480-3232 Ticketmaster in Los Angeles 213-851-7441 -(Golden Voice- UNlisted number?!! Why was it on ticket.de's page??)- Don't bug 'em with Ticket orders, etc. I know the BASS number is correct for San Fransisco, 510 762-2277, but, the other phone numbers for the other cities might be wrong, too. -(Local promoters? Not sure.)- If all else fails, call the L.A. Ticketmaster number. Sorry for the mix-up. Please forgive my faulty programming. ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark Subject: Re: (kw) Sitting? Eh? Date: 01 May 1998 17:04:21 -0400 >BTW, am i missing something.... I think you are. What I am looking for is reserved seating(NY). The important word is RESERVED. I usually manage to get within the first 10 rows when I go to a concert. It has nothing to do with sitting or standing. It's the view that counts. Location, location, location! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jose Garcia" Subject: (kw) (Fwd) Aktivitaet Online update Date: 01 May 1998 23:21:19 +0000 Hi, A message that I supossedly sent a few weeks ago! Anyway, here it is: There has been quite a few updates on the Aktivitaet Online pages, mainly the addition of some pictures. On the main page there is a reproduction of what was to become the Technopop LP back in 1983. Have fun Jose Jose Garcia Aktivitaet Spain: aktivitat@arrakis.es Aktivitaet Online (Unofficial Kraftwerk fanzine) http://www.arrakis.es/~jgc/aktivitat.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Read Subject: (kw) Concert Classics Date: 02 May 1998 14:07:48 +1000 I have found a bit more info on this new release: CONCERT CLASSICS . . by . . KRAFTWERK ORIGIN: ENG Tracks: Kometenmelodie, Autobahn, Morgenspaziergang Pt.1, Morgenspaziergang Pt.2. However it is 'out of stock' every where I try. It is a bit odd that it is being advertised by companies that have a strict 'no bootlegs' policy. Could this mean that is is NOT a bootleg...........! I would love to know what show this is. Adam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: (kw) Re: Chicago vs. Detroit Date: 01 May 1998 10:52:03 EDT On Thu, 30 Apr 1998 12:50:28 -0400 J Talbert writes: >The first floor at the State Theatre has no seats. But the balcony >certainly does have seating. Being general admission, I would assume this would give us the choice of main floor vs balcony? If this is the case, it presents a dilema for me...I would love to be on the main floor, up close to see the legendary R&F at work. But, not being able to sit would greatly detract from my ability to enjoy the concert. In putting in for the time off, our personell manager asked me what I was going to do, one day in the middle of the week. I told him what I was doing and he seemed to be interested. Had quite a discussion about Kraftwerk too...he thought CW was their first album...but he liked them. Anyway, he was telling me about going to a concert at The State a couple of years ago (to see Offspring) and he got a broken leg in a main floor stampede. I would like to think that my fellow Werkers are an orderly bunch, but who can predict what will happen when you get a bunch of "Gen X" er's (I kind of suspect the old farts like me will be in the minority). I'm a mellow person (ok, I AM into hardcore punk), and I do not sit well with a loud, roudy bunch. I WILL bring earplugs to this concert and use them if I need to...going home with a headache from too loud music is not my idea of fun by a long shot. But I *WILL* be there! Bill Dobiesz N8TLC "Huggy Bear" n8tlc@juno.com FidoNet 1:120/650 ITCnet 85:871/851 LifestylesNet 66:1810/101 ICQ UIN 7298861 np: G.G. Allin - Shove That Warrant Up Your A__ _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mars.sjostrand@stockholm.mail.telia.com Subject: (kw) US tour canceled? Date: 02 May 1998 11:35:33 +0200 Last night when I was zapping around the TV I suddenly heard this: "... is canceled, but Kraftwerk will perform at Free Tibet, Roskilde and Sonar98 as planned".=20 Unfortunately I just jumped in to the program(MTV party zone), so I can`t be sure, but it sounded to me like the whole US tour was cancelled. M=E5ns. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Schepers Subject: (kw) some KW gossip i found... Date: 02 May 1998 11:38:10 +0200 "No new music. No publicity." That's the new slogan for=20 Kraftwerk, those influential electronic German guys who have a string of = dates=20 coming up in the U.S. Well, not really, but those are the words of the = band's=20 management, when asked for details about the group's plans. "Basically, we=20 will come over and show our faces and that's it," says the manager. "Then we'll = come=20 back in maybe two, three years. Who knows?" While we're all holding our = breath,=20 Termine 1998 -- the band's first tour in the U.S. in 16 years -- starts July 6 = in=20 San Francisco. For the list of dates, check out www.kraftwerk.com... found at:=20 http://www.allstarmag.com/search/showartRT.cgi?searchstring=3DKraftwerk&s= e =20 arch-news=3Dchecked&search-intr=3Dchecked&search-cult=3Dchecked&search-re= vs=3Dch =20 ecked&atype=3Dnews&article=3D9804/23/8-gossip-230498.html&mbparam=3D39941= &serv =20 er=3Dhttp://www1.rocktropolis.com/&name1=3DGary+Numan&name2=3DDavid+Bowie= &name =20 3=3DAfrika+Bambaataa&name4=3DHuman+League&name5=3DCan&bio=3D&cc=3D&chat=3D= &disc=3D3994 =20 1&mbart=3D&method=3Dpost cool URL indeed ;) best regards, andreas ---- Andreas Schepers NetMedia GmbH=09 Information Design Schubertstra=DFe 8 schepers@net-media.de 66111 Saarbruecken http://www.net-media.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) US tour canceled? Date: 02 May 1998 08:38:50 -0700 mars.sjostrand@stockholm.mail.telia. sez: >Last night when I was zapping around the TV I suddenly heard this: "...is canceled, but Kraftwerk will perform at Free Tibet, Roskilde and Sonar98 as planned".< NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! Well, did anyone else hear this announcement in it's entirety? If the tour IS canceled, just kill me now and save me the trouble. In any case, I'm not buying my bus & plane tickets until I know for certain that they WILL show up in S.F. & L.A. and all the other US venues as schedualed. I was told that Konzert Tickets are non-refundable, just like plane tickets. ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: (kw) Silver Apples Date: 02 May 1998 11:44:01 EDT Probably somewhat off topic, but... Yesterday, I got the two new Silver Apples albums. They were hard to find, but I did. The main thing I wanted to mention is their newest album (Decatur, 1998) has upsurped the title of the longest song in my collection from Kraftwerk. Previously Autobahn was the longest one (save for a 3-1/2 hour long version of "In A Gadda Da Vida" that I edited myself...but that's a whole 'nother story...) Decatur is 42:10 long. In particular, those of you who really like Kraftwerk 1 and Kraftwerk 2 take note! I've never heard Tone Float, so I don't know about it, but this does seem to be a perfect record to acccompany the first 2 Kraftwerk albums. It is instrumental (pretty much - far less vocal than Autobahn). But the Decatur album is quite different from the Silver Apples/Contact and Beacon albums. Possibly the single best description is from the liner notes: "Decatur is a voyage of pure exploration beyond the broad established horizons of electronic music. It is an adventure into the perceptions of an unparallel universe all its own." Bill Dobiesz N8TLC "Huggy Bear" n8tlc@juno.com FidoNet 1:120/650 ITCnet 85:871/851 LifestylesNet 66:1810/101 ICQ UIN 7298861 np: Silver Apples - Daisy _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Liethen Subject: (kw) Media Center in Down Date: 02 May 1998 10:57:36 -0600 Sorry to say, the Kraftwerk Media Center has some problems that has forced me to take it offline. My web server was 'cracked' and rather offensive phrases we added to that web page, and many other sub pages. I plan to have it back up by Wendsday. ___________________________________________ Peter Liethen --- pliethen@execpc.com PeteNet Studio --- petenet.dragonfire.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Leonard R. Cleavelin" Subject: Re: (kw) US tour canceled? Date: 02 May 1998 11:46:29 -0500 At 08:38 AM 5/2/98 -0700, you wrote: > >mars.sjostrand@stockholm.mail.telia. sez: > >>Last night when I was zapping around the TV I suddenly heard this: >"...is canceled, but Kraftwerk will perform at Free Tibet, Roskilde >and Sonar98 as planned".< > >NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! > >Well, did anyone else hear this announcement in it's entirety? If the >tour IS canceled, just kill me now and save me the trouble. In any >case, I'm not buying my bus & plane tickets until I know for certain >that they WILL show up in S.F. & L.A. and all the other US venues as >schedualed. I was told that Konzert Tickets are non-refundable, just >like plane tickets. Let's not panic folks... FWIW... I spent 30 mins trying to get through.... and another 10 minutes on hold after I did.... but I finally got through to Ticketmaster in Chicago, and... I GOT MY TICKETS!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!! I'm hoping that if the tour had already been cancelled... Ticketmaster would know about it and have informed me... Oh well, nothing in life is certain except death and taxes... Best regards, -- Leonard R. Cleavelin e-mail: leonard@inlink.com (preferred) lcleavelin@solutechinc.com (work related) WWW: http://www.inlink.com/~leonard Never ascribe to malice what may be adequately explained by stupidity. *****FIGHT INTERNET SPAM! JOIN CAUCE ***** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jon Alsbury" Subject: Re: (kw) US tour canceled? Date: 02 May 1998 19:25:48 +0100 >Well, did anyone else hear this announcement in it's entirety? If the >tour IS canceled, just kill me now and save me the trouble. In any >case, I'm not buying my bus & plane tickets until I know for certain >that they WILL show up in S.F. & L.A. and all the other US venues as >schedualed. I was told that Konzert Tickets are non-refundable, just >like plane tickets. I'd be very surprised if you couldn't get a refund on your concert tickets in the event of a cancellation. In the UK the promoter would be legally obligied to offer you a refund - just becasue they told you something on the phone don't necessarilly make it so... I hope you US folks aren't going to be let down. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) New OFFICIAL KW live cd! Date: 01 May 1998 04:30:20 +0200 >I have just ordered an Ofiicial Kraftwerk record. It=B4s a radio concert. official and recorded by radio? mmmh... :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) worried Date: 01 May 1998 04:57:17 +0200 >> If the tour is cancelled It would be due to lack of promotion. I adore >in techno/electronica, and I have yet to see a single flyer or poster about excuse me, but a tour like that should have such larger expenses and tractatives that one could not just said "ok pals we were joking", or at last that is how it work in Italy. you sell 10 tickets, you play for 10. the group is paid mostly in advance, the trouble is for the promoter. you could not book a large place and a lot of technical instrumentation and then give forfait. you simply will not loose anything to play the same. advance expenses will be too high anyway. maybe the promoters just expects the tour to be so important to promote by itself. in Italy we had a pre-Mix blitz-tour about which almost nobody knew anything until one or two days before, but the show were packed all the way! and not a poster or anything! I was just able to... ehm... find a poster nailed in the theatre and it was the cover of man machine, nothing prepared for the occasion. be more faithful: does any concerts that happen in your areas receive always heavy pre-promotion? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: atv@tvdial.com Subject: (kw) Re: Sitting? Eh? Date: 02 May 1998 14:51:35 -0500 > Hell no... unless it's an opera or something of that nature. > > Ernie Well I look it at this way, out of all the concerts I have spent money on and I stood in the front, I found that seeing elbows, saying "exscuse me" or putting up with the drunken fan who likes to start fights, certainly ain't worth the ticket price! If I am paying money, like I am in Chicago at the Riviera, it's much easier just to sit in the balcony and enjoy the show. Phil -- PLEASE NOTE: My E-mail address has changed to: atv@tvdial.com PHILIP SATTERLEY- *progrock Producer- The Midwest's ONLY Progressive Rock music video show!!! http://www.tvdial.com./prog.html DON'T TOUCH THAT DIAL- Classic TV on Videocassette!- http://www.tvdial.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: atv@tvdial.com Subject: (kw) US tour canceled? Date: 02 May 1998 14:55:39 -0500 > Last night when I was zapping around the TV I suddenly heard this: "... > is canceled, but Kraftwerk will perform at Free Tibet, Roskilde and > Sonar98 as planned".=20 > > Unfortunately I just jumped in to the program(MTV party zone), so I > can`t be sure, but it sounded to me like the whole US tour was > cancelled. As of 10:00 this morning Kraftwerk tickets did go on sale in Chicago. Out of the 100 people that were there in line *I* was the ONLY one there for Kraftwerk! There was only 1 other that showed up after me, and that was after asking the girl at the counter how many sold, she said I was the only one so far the whole morning. Give it time, I think they will eventually sell more however. Phil -- PLEASE NOTE: My E-mail address has changed to: atv@tvdial.com PHILIP SATTERLEY- *progrock Producer- The Midwest's ONLY Progressive Rock music video show!!! http://www.tvdial.com./prog.html DON'T TOUCH THAT DIAL- Classic TV on Videocassette!- http://www.tvdial.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) Fw: Kraftwerk concert info Date: 02 May 1998 00:23:39 -0700 Danielle at Golden Voice informed me: -(re: sufficient ticket sales in L.A.)- >I can't speak for the rest of the promoters, but our >show is doing fine as well as ticket sales go. We >would not want to cancel it! -(re: erroneous info on tickets.de, hence, error in my posts)- >And thanks for correcting the info.. We'll try >to get the other website to change it too. Thanks.. So, there you have it. All systems are GO, atleast for L.A. ....so far. -(I still gotta find all of my bogus posts and make corrections.*ARGH*. What would tickets.de put the wrong number on their WebSite?)- OOH-OOH-OOH!! I got my L.A. tickets in the SnailMail today for me & mon ami, "seats" 20 & 21. -("Seats"?? I thought it was standing room only.)- Did everyone else get their tickies yet? Sunday, approximately 9:45am, I'm gonna be on hold, waiting to order 6 Warfield tickets!! -(Um, Andreas in Deutschland- you still want 2 tickets?? I ain't heard from you nor received funds. So, should I buy just 4 tickets, or get 6 and hope you'll pay for 2 of 'em, or hope that I can sell 2 at cost if you don't want 'em?? I need to know....)- My nerves are gone. I now have parts I & II of the "History of KW" KomiX- Thanks again, KJM! About 5 people have asked for 'em so far- anyone else? I just sent out part II. If I missed anyone that I sent part I to, or if anyone else wants both -(and ongoing)- KomiX, please Email me with something obvious in the subject like "KW KomiX" or "History of KRAFTWERK" so I don't lose yer messies, 'kay? I'm making a special folder for y'all. :]]]] -(The Bowie reference in Part II is Brilliant!*HeeHee*!)- ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) (Fwd) Chinese Ban Of Tibetan Freedom Performers Denied Date: 02 May 1998 23:40:54 +0000 From http://www.ticketmaster.com/livedaily/page2.html#story#3: Chinese Ban Of Tibetan Freedom Performers Denied The Chinese government, through spokesmen at their U.S. and U.K.-based embassies, is challenging a report by the ABC Radio Network, who reported last week that performers taking part in the Tibetan Freedom Concert in Washington, D.C. would be banned from visiting China. The statement, posted on the official web site for the benefit concert, quotes a Chinese embassy staffer in London as saying, "Western artists have no right to intervene in the internal affairs of our country. Any of those performers who do will not be permitted entry to China, including Tibet, and their works will never be welcome in our country." Sonicnet reports that the press consul for Chinese embassy in Washington, D.C. claims that the statement was never made, while ABC stands by its report. In denying the statement, the press consul did point out that China is, nonetheless, "opposed to any attempts aimed at splitting Tibet from China, no matter under what pretext and in what name these activities might be." Tickets for the Tibetan Freedom Concert go on sale in the Washington, D.C. area Saturday at 9 a.m. and via phone at 1-800 551-SEAT. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) US tour canceled? Date: 02 May 1998 16:06:31 -0600 (MDT) On Sat, 2 May 1998, ROBOT wrote: > >Last night when I was zapping around the TV I suddenly heard this: > "...is canceled, but Kraftwerk will perform at Free Tibet, Roskilde > and Sonar98 as planned".< > > NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! Does indeed sound bad, but we don't know for sure what was said. Let's wait and see if the tour listing change or the SF tickets still go on sale tomorrow. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ra Subject: (kw) Pastry for Charlie Date: 02 May 1998 16:12:33 -0600 (MDT) I just wanted to say that I finally got Charlie Crash's MP3 remix of It's More Fun to Compute to play properly, and I am impressed. Excellent work, Charlie. Turned out my copy was ASCII-buggered. Fixed it with Phix (http://www.cadvision.com/cdavison/phix/). Useful little program. Unfortunately my disk quota is being reduced for the summer, so I can't have the MP3 file available on my web page anymore. If I get more disk in the fall I'll put it back. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Luke Welsh Subject: (kw) SF Info Date: 02 May 1998 15:29:38 -0700 Maps maps maps maps, visit: http://www.mapblast.com Enter this information: the Warfield 982 Market St San Francisco, CA Check the Travel Lodge wwweb page (and get a US$5 discount): http://www.travelodge.com/ Consider this hotel (*very* popular with tourists): http://www.travelweb.com/TravelWeb/init.html?p_page_type=START&p_brand=TL&p_pid=07069 Sure, it is not next to the Warfield, but it *is* close to many other (free/almost free) things: [] view of Alcatraz, free [] Pier 39, free [] Sea Lions, free :-)))))) [] 1940-era submarine (it works!) (US$5) http://www.maritime.org/pamphome.shtml [] Famous San Francisco crabs and sourdough bread [] Rich-man's tour of the bay: BIG tour boats [] Poor-man's tour of the bay: Very small, old, fishing boat :-) About US$10, but very negociable. [] Walk down Lombard Street, free [] Hike to The Presidio, free [] Walk across the Golden Gate Bridge. Don't drive. [] Eat in China Town :-) and Little Italy :-) and not at the tourist restaurants near the water = $$$$$$$$ :-P Public transportation is pretty good. Buses and subway (BART). http://sfbay.yahoo.com/Transportation/Mass_Transit/ Take a taxi to the concert if need be. Or walk there from China Town (after dinner). ** WARNING ** WARNING ** WARNING ** WARNING ** WARNING ** Do not buy *anything* from a store that does not display their prices. There are many dishonest merchants (mostly electronic and cameras). If you want to buy electronics, find a big store that is full of Californians buying things. Some of these stores include: Circuit City Fry's The Good Guys Sears Going to buy something for your computer? Central Computer is reputable and has good prices: http://www.centralcomputer.com/ Again, visit: http://www.mapblast.com Enter this information: Central Computer 837 Howard St. San Francisco, CA Hey! Central Computer is real close to the Warfield :-) There are many homeless people, some of whom are beggars. Some are alcoholics, some are drug abusers, some have mental problems, and some are just "down on their luck". They are generally harmless. If driving to the concert, some homeless guys may direct you to a parking spot. Give them a dollar or two. And keep your eyes open. Don't leave anything in the car. Do not enter any park at night. Beer: http://RealBeer.com/ and search for San Francisco --Luke, who is almost 50, a fan since before you were born, never seen them in concert, and may be out-of-town when KW is in-town :-( # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Concert Classics Date: 02 May 1998 23:23:31 +0200 >CONCERT CLASSICS . . by . . KRAFTWERK >ORIGIN: ENG > >Tracks: Kometenmelodie, Autobahn, Morgenspaziergang Pt.1, Morgenspaziergang [...] >advertised by companies that have a strict 'no bootlegs' policy. Could this mean >that is is NOT a bootleg...........! maybe the (c) for this performance has expired? I saw a lot of live records of historic 70's bands for sale because of this. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) Tickets, please!/new domain Date: 02 May 1998 23:00:23 -0700 *JITTER-JITTER* Damn- somebody DO something about these butterflies in my stomach!*ARGH*! I'll feel better once I get tickets ordered. BASS Tickets: 510 762-2277 http://www.basstickets.net Sunday MAY 3 10am PDT BTW: My husband is changing his domain thingy and moving my page to his new server, so, it'll be down for a day or so. -(No big deal, I never get any hits anyway.)- Meanwhile, I'm keeping my present account for atleast another month or two so we can both read the news groups until the new server gets access to super news or whatever. It's kinda complicated right now.... Tickets, please! All aboard the KlingKlang Express! *LIVE* Up CLOSE and PERSONAL! Do I dare get my hopes up? Is it REALLY gonna HAPPEN? ROBOT@humboldt1.com -(HomePage in LIMBO)- Same Email Address for now. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Ingersoll Subject: (kw) Sonar98 Tickets Date: 03 May 1998 07:59:33 +0200 Sonar 98 tickets go on sale Saturday May 9th!!!!! I just saw the web page today. They have finally updated it. Kraftwerk will be playing on day 3. I have yet to read the rest of the info but you are more than welcome to check it out at www.sonar.es Enjoy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) US tour canceled? Date: 02 May 1998 23:47:27 EDT On Sat, 02 May 1998 11:46:29 -0500 "Leonard R. Cleavelin" writes: >I'm hoping that if the tour had already been cancelled... Ticketmaster >would know about it and have informed me... Oh well, nothing in life is >certain except death and taxes... Well, I can give this little story about my sister's experience with Ticketmaster... There was a show of some kind...I don't remember what. It was at the Fisher theatre. Got tickets, then went down on the day of the show. Go in, and usher took her and her husband to their seats...there were people in them already! Checked out the tickets...turns out the show she was supposed to be going to was cancelled. It was cancelled BEFORE she bought her ticket, but they sold her the ticket anyway. She got a refund, no problem, although they did ask "Why would you buy tickets to a show that was cancelled?" "Why would YOU sell me tickets to a show that was cancelled?" So, the fact that you have tickets...that says maybe. Yes, I bought my ticket (Detroit show) through Ticketmaster too... Bill Dobiesz N8TLC "Huggy Bear" n8tlc@juno.com FidoNet 1:120/650 ITCnet 85:871/851 LifestylesNet 66:1810/101 ICQ UIN 7298861 np: Martin Mull - My Wife _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Knight Subject: Re: (kw) US tour canceled? Better Not Happen! Date: 03 May 1998 07:21:49 -0700 (PDT) >Well, I can give this little story about my sister's experience with >Ticketmaster... > >There was a show of some kind...I don't remember what. It was at the >Fisher theatre. Got tickets, then went down on the day of the show. Go >in, and usher took her and her husband to their seats...there were people >in them already! Checked out the tickets...turns out the show she was >supposed to be going to was cancelled. It was cancelled BEFORE she >bought her ticket, but they sold her the ticket anyway. > >She got a refund, no problem, although they did ask "Why would you buy >tickets to a show that was cancelled?" > >"Why would YOU sell me tickets to a show that was cancelled?" > >So, the fact that you have tickets...that says maybe. > >Yes, I bought my ticket (Detroit show) through Ticketmaster too... > > >Bill Dobiesz N8TLC "Huggy Bear" >n8tlc@juno.com >FidoNet 1:120/650 ITCnet 85:871/851 LifestylesNet 66:1810/101 >ICQ UIN 7298861 >np: Martin Mull - My Wife I have been a DEVOUTE! follower of Kaftwerk since 1980. I would think they would acknowledge the US fans ! Hmmmm , Makes be a Bit nervous, all this talk about a cancellation of the KW Shows in the US. I too Bought Both of my tickets through Ticket GASHER. Hope that "IF" (I hope not) it's cancelled We will be notified! If roumors are true, I shall Probbably Not listen to or purchase, Look at, Or be on the Mailing list Tha has invlovement with Krafwerk !!!!! I have been a DEVOUTE! follower of Kaftwerk since 1980. I would think they would acknowledge the US fans ! Eric Knight ***************************************** * Laugh, and the World Laughs with you, * * Fart, and everyone Leaves! * * * * ericknig@sprynet.com * ***************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jose Garcia" Subject: (kw) SONAR 98 Date: 03 May 1998 17:06:57 +0000 Info from the web sonar pages www.sonar.es: ---------- Venta anticipada / Tickets in advance Se recomienda la compra anticipada de entradas. Aforos Limitados. Venta anticipada de abonos a partir del S=E1bado 9 de mayo. MUY IMPORTANTE !! Entrada limitada al aforo de los espacios La Organizaci=F3n se reserva la venta de entradas del SONARCLUB del dia 18 de Junio (Actuaci=F3n de Kraftwerk) s=F3lo en el caso que la venta de abonos lo permita. Advance ticket buying recommended. Advance tickets sales from Saturday 9th May VERY IMPORTANT !! Entry tickets are limited to space capacity of each venue. The Organization reserves ticket sales for SONARCLUB for the 18th of June (Kraftwerk performance) only if 3 day pass sales allow this ---------- Does this mean SONAR will not sell advance tickets for the KW performance unless tickets for the 3 days allow for this??? Jose # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jose Garcia" Subject: (kw) experts in e-music hardware: HELP Date: 03 May 1998 17:37:05 +0000 Hi kwerkers, I've been asked by a Spanish magazine to write an extensive article about KW (in Spanish!), so I'm sorrounded by books, fanzines, magazines, photocopies etc trying to write a decent article. I'm particularly interested in discerning about a piece of info that recently Karl Bartos revealed in an interview to Sound on Sound. I'm not a musician, neither an expert about e-music hardware (quite illiterate in fact). So I'd appreciate some help from the experts out there! Bartos says sth. like he spent 2.5 years reading manuals, programming a DX7 with two Atari computers... When would you date that situation: in pre-1986 or pre-1991? And what about the *initial* Linn Midi Sequencer? What would be the date of manufacture fot that artifact? Please reply privately, as I'm on the digest and need this info ASAP. Jose aktivitat@arrakis.es # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk & Komputer Date: 03 May 1998 18:22:39 +0000 Just for the record: There's a rumour on alt.music.synthpop that Kraftwerk may tour with Komputer... Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) re: kw) Kraftwerk & Komputer Date: 03 May 1998 10:46:34 -0700 Klaus Zaepke sagt: >Just for the record:< >There's a rumour on alt.music.synthpop that Kraftwerk may tour with Komputer...< *HAHAHAHA* Good one- I gotta read the news groups more often. YIKES! It's getting close to 10am -time to call BASS and order TICKETS!! I STILL have not heard from "Andreas" Where ARE you???? Do you still want 2 tickets?? I know I need 4 tickets: I each for Christoph Marquardt, Fred Becker, JBV, and myself. IF I can order 2 extra, Andreas gets first claim- IF he'll CONTACT me and send me the $80 he promised. If I don't hear from him real soon, who wants the tickets? -($40 apiece will BARELY cover my costs.)- If there is a limit of 4 tickets per order, then atleast I've got the 4 of us covered. I want good seats! As mentioned before, a lot of other BIG name Artists' tickets are also going on sale at the same time- so, I'm gonna call about 10 minutes before the hour and hope for the best. It's 20 til 10am PDT now. I'll post again after I order and let y'all know how it went. WHY am I so NERVOUS?? ROBOT@humboldt1.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) *ARGH* Date: 03 May 1998 11:13:51 -0700 I can't get through on the phone OR on the internet! What's going on? Now I can't even post on the Mail List. -(My last post "HELP!!!!" wont show up. If it does, nevermind this message. sorry.)- ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) re: kw) Kraftwerk & Komputer Date: 03 May 1998 14:03:40 >>There's a rumour on alt.music.synthpop that Kraftwerk may tour with >>Komputer...< >*HAHAHAHA* >Good one- I gotta read the news groups more often. Nevertheless, I'd still rather have Kraftwerk tour with Komputer than not tour at all! :)) -- Scott M. Barnhill (planning his murder spree should KW decide to cancel their New York gig) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5 Subject: (kw) Warfield ticket Date: 03 May 1998 14:02:15 EDT Well, I am REALLY a happy man! 2 weeks ago I got my Gary Numan ticket for the Fillmore and now I just got home from getting my Kratwerk ticket for the Warfield.....Now if KW do cancel, I am going to fly over to Kling Klang with my ticket and demand a private concert!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) HELP!!!! Date: 03 May 1998 10:47:35 -0700 HELP!! I can't get throught to BASS by phone OR internet!!*ARGH*!! All circuits are busy, and the webpage is down!! -(I guess everybody's jamming the phone lines ordering Bonnie Raitt tickets or one of the other big name Artists.)- I'm screwed. I know the KRAFTWERK tickets won't sell out overnight- but, now I'm gonna miss my chance to get good seats. The local BASS outlet opens soon, but, there's no bus on week-ends, so, I can't get into Eureka until tomorrow. -(Hubby dearest doesn't feel like driving me 11 miles into town, and he wont let me "tie up the phone" and keep trying to call BASS because he's expecting a call about selling lumber.)- !!*AAAAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHH*^&%$#%&^$#$%*!! Why me, Lord? Why me?? I'm trying SO hard- really I am. ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) SONAR 98 Date: 04 May 1998 00:22:33 +0200 > La Organizaci=F3n se reserva la venta de entradas del > SONARCLUB del dia 18 de Junio (Actuaci=F3n de > Kraftwerk) s=F3lo en el caso que la venta de abonos lo > permita. > The Organization reserves ticket sales for SONARCLUB for > the 18th of June (Kraftwerk performance) only if 3 day > pass sales allow this >---------- > >Does this mean SONAR will not sell advance tickets for the KW=20 >performance unless tickets for the 3 days allow for this??? I read it this way: before selling you a ticket just for 18 june, we wish to see how much three day ticket we sell. this can be for two reason: we want to give the precedence to the key event (Kraftwerk concert) to our best (bigger spending) clients, anyway we wish to be sure that nothing remain unsold. it remain to see when they decide that enough three days ticket sale are sold... incidentally, someone else tried to email them? I did and received no answer. very mediterranean. some image and little substance. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk & Komputer Date: 04 May 1998 00:27:24 +0200 >There's a rumour on alt.music.synthpop that Kraftwerk may tour with >Komputer... maybe they mean Komputer with Kraftwerk... there's a difference... ooops... yeees, now I get the catch... tour with... Komputer ahahaha... :-))) (better later than never... :-) ) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: andrew48@gti.net Subject: (kw) Yay! Date: 03 May 1998 17:58:39 -0400 After an hour of freakin trying to get into BASS (damn those spice girls!) I finally got through and ordered 4 tix!! yayay. The lady who I ordered from said "Wow what a suprize, something different!" so I'll see you all there. ps: I've been pondering whether or not I should go looking like KW on the MM album; red shirt, neato blinking tie (where would i get one of those?), slick back hair and a lil makup. Would anybody like to join me or will would I be alone on this idea :) pps: Give those articles and stuff to ROBOT! she deserves it! Andrew from ze Computer Welt: http://www.angelfire.com/nj/groovethang # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) HELP!!!! Date: 03 May 1998 18:47:46 EDT On Sun, 3 May 1998 10:47:35 -0700 "ROBOT" writes: > >HELP!! The local BASS outlet opens soon, but, there's no bus on >week-ends, so, I can't get into Eureka until tomorrow. -(Hubby dearest >doesn't feel like driving me 11 miles into town, and he wont >let me "tie up the phone" and keep trying to call BASS because he's >expecting a call about selling lumber.)- > >!!*AAAAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHH*^&%$#%&^$#$%*!! > >Why me, Lord? Why me?? I'm trying SO hard- really I am. > um...no cabs? and why doesnt he give you the keys? tom w np: eno = nerve net _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) HELP!!!! Date: 03 May 1998 17:06:50 -0600 (MDT) On Sun, 3 May 1998, ROBOT wrote: > won't sell out overnight- but, now I'm gonna miss my chance to get > good seats. The local BASS outlet opens soon, but, there's no bus on > week-ends, so, I can't get into Eureka until tomorrow. -(Hubby dearest > doesn't feel like driving me 11 miles into town, and he wont > let me "tie up the phone" and keep trying to call BASS because he's > expecting a call about selling lumber.)- > > Why me, Lord? Why me?? I'm trying SO hard- really I am. This is intolerable oppression of a minority! Us KW fans should apply for official oppressed-minority status! We could carry a Kling-Klang Kard that lets us get in front of any ticket lineup. :) Sorry to hear of your frustration, ROBOT. Keep trying. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EZwerk Subject: Re: (kw) US tour canceled? Date: 03 May 1998 21:31:39 +0000 ROBOT wrote: > NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! > > Well, did anyone else hear this announcement in it's entirety? If the > tour IS canceled, just kill me now and save me the trouble. In any > case, I'm not buying my bus & plane tickets until I know for certain > that they WILL show up in S.F. & L.A. and all the other US venues as > schedualed. I was told that Konzert Tickets are non-refundable, just > like plane tickets. As far as I know, there was a huge ad in the Reader here in Chicago on Thursday and the tickets went on sale as planned AND I heard they sold out here in Chicago. Anyone else confirm this? Ernie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco DuBose Subject: (kw) Got Tix for SF Date: 03 May 1998 21:30:08 -0500 Relax, Robot. The SF tix are general admission. We'll be standing - the easier to do our little robot dances! The lady on the phone did tell me (without asking, I'm sure it's part of their standard spiel) that if the concert was cancelled, I would get a refund. See you in SF! Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "d. c A r t o" Subject: (kw) Spice Girls Date: 03 May 1998 22:09:01 -0700 Aren't you glad you're not going to the Spice Girls? People are shelling out all kinds of money, hundreds of dollars today to see that #$@% Got my tickets for SF, Warfield. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Greg Heil" Subject: Re: (kw) Spice Girls Date: 03 May 1998 23:15:35 -0700 ---------- > From: d. c A r t o > To: kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (kw) Spice Girls > Date: Sunday, May 03, 1998 10:09 PM > > > Aren't you glad you're not going to the Spice Girls? > > People are shelling out all kinds of money, hundreds of dollars today to see > that #$@% > Unfortunately yes, people think that they can be included in a big group to make themselves feel better if they like that music, which is the way most pop music is today, for young people who like to feel part of the group. I'm 19, but I like being different, and I enjoy music as an art form and an expressive form. Greg H. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) HELP!!!! Date: 04 May 1998 00:28:47 -0700 -(ROBOT laments:)- >>!!*AAAAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHH*^&%$#%&^$#$%*!!<< >>Why me, Lord? Why me?? I'm trying SO hard- really I am.>> -(Kind words from Soleil "Ra" Lapierre:)- >This is intolerable oppression of a minority! Us KW fans should apply for official oppressed-minority status! We could carry a Kling-Klang Kard that lets us get in front of any ticket lineup. :)< Hear-Hear! Equal rights for ROBOTS! Machines RULE! >Sorry to hear of your frustration, ROBOT. Keep trying.< Thanks, Ra! -(MORE kind words from :)- >ps: I've been pondering whether or not I should go looking like KW on the MM album;< *DROOL* Oh, GOD, yes.... *YUM-YUM* >red shirt, neato blinking tie (where would i get one of those?)< I saw a schematic for an LED tie in one of the AKTIVITÄT FanZines.... >slick back hair and a lil makup. Would anybody like to join me or will would I be alone on this idea :)< YES!! I'd LOVE to join you, but, unfortunately, I'm not as "slender" as I used to be, so, I can't pull off the Mannequin look like in the good old days.*sigh*. But, I'll probably have cosmetics with me so I can do make-up on other people who want it. The KRAFTWERK LooK is SO seductive! OOoohh, I don't know if I can handle being surrounded by all these Fans in M.M outfits & make-up. *sigh* >pps: Give those articles and stuff to ROBOT! she deserves it!< -!!!!- *WOW* -!!!!- What a sweet thing to say! Ich LIEBE Dich! Now I KNOW I'm in LOVE! {{{{{{{{ROBOHUGS}}}}}}}} -(tweibrecht replies, re: ROBOT's Lament)- >um...no cabs?< Cabs?? In Loleta?? yeah, right. as IF I could afford it. They charge an awful lot to drive 11 miles down here from Eureka and take you into town. :[ >and why doesnt he give you the keys?< Because I can't drive. ....So, I hitched a ride to the Bayshore Mall -(Eureka)- around NooN, raided the ATM, went to Gottschalk's, and picked up 6 tickets in person. Main floor, general admission.*grrr*. I was under the impression that it was reserved seating. -(I don't trust info on WebSites or even on the phone. I've repeated WRONG info that way. Never again.)- If I'd've known it was gonna be a free-for-all, I would've waited til tomorrow and taken the bus. But, it WERKed out. There was no line at the BASS counter- just one other store employee talking to the lady about business. What- no Spice Girls Fans in Humboldt County?*snicker*! -(I'd rather see Bonnie Raitt on June 6th @ Warfield- and ofcourse KW on the 7th! If only I could afford both shows. Sorry, Bonnie. If you're ever in Eureka/Arcata, I'll BE there!)- *WHEW* Well, now that I've got tickets for my compadres & meself, maybe I'll get some SLEEP tonight. That is, IF my stomach quits burning. -(*BARF*)- YO, Andreas ! If you want these 2 extra tickets that I stuck my neck out for, PLEASE let me know ASAP. If you DON'T want 'em, likewise, I need to KNOW. I'm sure SOMEone will buy them if you don't need 'em. ROBOT@humboldt1.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: resin@tuna.net (darren) Subject: (kw) who built and maintains the robots? Date: 04 May 1998 06:02:08 +0600 hello k list who built and maintains the kraftwerk robots? during a kraftwerk tour, who/what is controlling/maintaining/operating the robots? please, point me to a resource on the web with info regarding the manufacture and design of these dancing machines. also- i was thrilled to read the a-100 poem, although i could not hear it. realaudio anyone? just my opinion on the interest in kraftwerk in the usa- i live and work in new york city. i mention to just about anyone i can that kraftwerk are playing june 13 here in nyc. i always get a stunned look and "no way, i'll be there.." darren http://www.tuna.net/resin email:resin@tuna.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "abzug" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk & Komputer Date: 04 May 1998 11:55:52 +0100 Klaus wrote: >Just for the record: >There's a rumour on alt.music.synthpop that >Kraftwerk may tour with Komputer... HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christoph Marquardt" Subject: RE: (kw) who built and maintains the robots? Date: 04 May 1998 16:02:28 +0200 > > also- i was thrilled to read the a-100 poem, although i could not hear it. > realaudio anyone? > The poem's not realaudio, it's in MP3 format (at http://world.net/~adamr/) and all you need is an mp3 player (like winamp). Christoph # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christoph Marquardt" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Tour Info on Doepfer Page Date: 04 May 1998 17:10:32 +0200 Hi Werkers, I just found some Kraftwerk tour info on a Doepfer page: http://www.doepfer.com/new_d.htm In addition to the tour dates, they also provide some information on what Doepfer instruments are being used on this tour by Kraftwerk. Christoph -- "RAM Disk is not an installation procedure!" - anonymous nubui@bigfoot.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob VonMoss Subject: (kw) Chicago Reader Date: 04 May 1998 12:28:53 -0700 Scans of the Kraftwerk ad (too big for the scanner) http://www.mcs.net/~bvonmoss/kw/KWReader1.gif and a robot picture: http://www.mcs.net/~bvonmoss/kw/KWReader2.jpg I have 2 extra copies of the Reader, so if you are interested in them, contact me. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CADBOT Subject: (kw) Chicago reader Date: 03 May 1998 18:33:32 -0500 Scanned images of KW in the Chicago Reader at: http://www.mcs.net/~bvonmoss/kw/KWReader1.gif http://www.mcs.net/~bvonmoss/kw/KWReader2.jpg The first one was too large for the scanner. I saved 2 whole Readers, so if you're a KW memorabilia freak, contact me through email if you want me to send you the pictures. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jseifert@technologist.com (Jules Seifert) Subject: Re: (kw) re: kw) Kraftwerk & Komputer Date: 04 May 1998 17:33:49 GMT "Scott M. Barnhill" wrote: >Scott M. Barnhill (planning his murder spree should KW decide to cancel > their New York gig) hehehe. I can see the headlines right now...... 'I knew Scott, and he was such a quiet boy....' ;-) ciao, Jules Seifert The Voice of Energy!! #Kraftwerk IRC homepage:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ No:- 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@mail.club-internet.fr Subject: (kw) The Big Lebowski Date: 04 May 1998 20:21:20 +0100 Americans on the list may have seen this before, but this movie just released in France. There's a brilliant joke about a techno pop group who did an album in the 70's. The group was called AUTOBAHN, and on the record sleeves there are 3 guys dressed in red. Brilliant. JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John B. Morgan" Subject: Re: (kw) The Big Lebowski Date: 04 May 1998 14:24:42 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 4 May 1998 derrien@mail.club-internet.fr wrote: > Americans on the list may have seen this before, but this movie just > released in France. There's a brilliant joke about a techno pop group who > did an album in the 70's. The group was called AUTOBAHN, and on the record > sleeves there are 3 guys dressed in red. Yes. And the three techno guys appear in the film as kidnappers. So THAT'S what Ralf and Florian have been up to for all these years! ******************************************************************************* John Morgan "The heroes of the epics of India are not Student Services, individuals, but whole reels of individual- The University of Michigan ities in a series of incarnations." LS&A Honors Program --Hermann Hesse, http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jbmorgan/ STEPPENWOLF including The Colin Wilson Page # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: surrealismo@juno.com (Andrew B Smith) Subject: (kw) Record Label Date: 04 May 1998 15:23:36 +0200 Hello, Ok, call me stupid, but what record label is Kraftwerk on these days. Is it still Warner Bros.? or has it changed? I would appreciate any help. andrew _____ 2+2=5 ===== _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kotta" Subject: (kw) Voice from the past... Date: 04 May 1998 22:38:38 +0200 Ecerpt from the book Man Machine and Music... Statement by Karl Bartos sometime around the release of Computer World: "We had a lot of different reactions all at the same time. I would say it's always good to have competition, even if you just have a shop in the street. It makes you stronger in some ways because you have to look around and listen to what they are doing, what is their approach to it. But there was never really anybody who had that strong connection with us. There has always been that silly English pop scene, with silly lyrics." I wonder how he would have commented Electric Music's or Mobile Homes' "new" sound back then? /Kotta # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Read Subject: Re: (kw) who built and maintains the robots? Date: 05 May 1998 07:31:50 +1000 darren wrote: > also- i was thrilled to read the a-100 poem, although i could not hear it. > realaudio anyone? I replaced the mp3 file with a real audio version. http://www.world.net/~adamr Adam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rich Mergner Subject: (kw) KW Hammerstein Show? Date: 04 May 1998 19:18:14 +0000 Just want to verify with my co-werkers that tixs for the Hammerstein, NYC 5/13 go on sale this Fri the 8th at 10AM from Ticketmaster. Has anyone heard different? Floor seating or General admission? Has there been any ads in the NY/NJ papers? Are these the correct phone# 212-307-7171(NY)-201-507-5600(NJ) thanks, Rich M. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) KW Hammerstein Show? Date: 04 May 1998 21:14:49 Rich Mergner wrote: >Just want to verify with my co-werkers that tixs for >the Hammerstein, NYC 5/13 go on sale this Fri the 8th >at 10AM from Ticketmaster. Has anyone heard different? #1 The concert is on 6/13, not 5/13. You're not the first person to make this mistake on the list though, so don't feel bad. :o) #2 Tickets go on sale at 12pm, not 10am. Just wanted to clarify. -- PezScotty nebulous@erols.com #Kraftwerk, IRC's DALnet "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sharlyn T" Subject: (kw) Anyone else going to record? Also who wan't to host! Date: 04 May 1998 23:24:27 PDT Greetings all. I've got to be a bit mysterious here since I work for an employeer who would NOT appreciate my plan. In any case Is any one planning on recording any of the up coming KW shows? If so what equipment will you be using? I haven't recorded a show in about 8 years so i'm not to up on the technology. However I am considering updating to a MZ-R30 if no one else is going to record the shows I am going to. I'll be in LAX, SFO, Washington and NYC. Also is anyone willing or able to host my MP3's when I make them. Probably a european server would be the best way to keep traffic and attention low. I'm not looking to make one red cent on any of the recording I make and want to ensure that everything I record will be available to anyone free as well. -J KW fan since '80 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jose Garcia" Subject: Re: (kw) experts in e-music hardware: HELP Date: 05 May 1998 18:51:55 +0000 I asked: > Bartos says sth. like he spent 2.5 years reading manuals, > programming a DX7 with two Atari computers... When would you date > that situation: in pre-1986 or pre-1991? > And what about the *initial* Linn Midi Sequencer? What would be the > date of manufacture fot that artifact? Thanks to all the ones who replied. I'm a totally illiterate on this subject, so thanks! From the answers I got, my conclusion is: It seems that Karl Bartos spent 2.5 years sitting, reading manuals and programming a DX7 from 1984 onwards. That would explain the delay in releasing Electric Cafe after the band having decided they'd redo the aborted "Techno Pop" album. Now a question opened for debate between the experts in these tools: do you think it's reasonable to spend that amount of time in doing this programming? Was it so difficult at that time? The machine that Bartos refers to as "Linn Midi Sequencer", and being extremely unreliable, could be, according to the experts, the Linn 9000 drum machine Sequencer, also from 1984. Jose http://www.arrakis.es/~jgc/aktivitat.htm Jose Garcia Aktivitaet Spain: aktivitat@arrakis.es Aktivitaet Online (Unofficial Kraftwerk fanzine) http://www.arrakis.es/~jgc/aktivitat.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Luca Dassi Subject: Re: (kw) experts in e-music hardware: HELP Date: 05 May 1998 19:19:25 +0200 Jose Garcia wrote: > It seems that Karl Bartos spent 2.5 years sitting, reading manuals > and programming a DX7 from 1984 onwards. That would explain the delay > in releasing Electric Cafe after the band having decided they'd redo > the aborted "Techno Pop" album. > > Now a question opened for debate between the experts in these tools: > do you think it's reasonable to spend that amount of time in doing > this programming? Was it so difficult at that time? My God! IMHO DX7 was (is) a tough machine - I had one and it took a while to get used to, but nevertheless 2.5 years seem to me an enormous amount of time...I seem to remember W.Carlos recording an entire album track by track with a (monophonic) MiniMoog in a few months. BTW, most of the sounds used in Electric Cafe do not seem to be generated by a DX7 - its synthesis technique makes it a poor candidate for warm sustained sounds, chorus simulation, *real* metallic sounds that are mostly used in Electric Cafe. Could this be a showcase of Bartos mastery? I don't think so. At last, we found where that *ugly* slap bass sound came from... Ciao, *Luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: resin@tuna.net (darren) Subject: Re: (kw) who built and maintains the robots? Date: 05 May 1998 17:33:23 +0600 >darren wrote: > >> also- i was thrilled to read the a-100 poem, although i could not hear it. >> realaudio anyone? > >I replaced the mp3 file with a real audio version. > > http://www.world.net/~adamr > >Adam very cool- thanks adam! still no one has any info on the robots? darren http://www.tuna.net/resin email:resin@tuna.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jose Garcia" Subject: (kw) SONAR 98 Date: 05 May 1998 23:54:19 +0000 I've talked over the phone to someone at Advanced Music, the promoters of the SONAR festival. They say the tickets will go on sale in two weeks. This is contradictory with their web page. Further, I spoke with a shop assistant from a record store that will have the tickets for sale. He's an acquantance and he's into KW also. He says the organizers have always put the tickets on sale only one week or two before all the past festival editions. I'll have first-hand info when the tickets ARE actually available. What is clear is I won't buy a 3-day ticket only to use it for one day! Jose Garcia Aktivitaet Spain: aktivitat@arrakis.es Aktivitaet Online (Unofficial Kraftwerk fanzine) http://www.arrakis.es/~jgc/aktivitat.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric.Schader@gambro.com Subject: RE: (kw) experts in e-music hardware: HELP Date: 06 May 1998 07:58:39 +0200 > It seems that Karl Bartos spent 2.5 years sitting, reading manuals > and programming a DX7 from 1984 onwards. That would explain the delay > in releasing Electric Cafe after the band having decided they'd redo > the aborted "Techno Pop" album. > > Now a question opened for debate between the experts in these tools: > do you think it's reasonable to spend that amount of time in doing > this programming? Was it so difficult at that time? > Not beeing an expert on DX7 but having had some experience from it back in 1986-87 when I borrowed one from a friend, I must say that I remeber it not to have been easy to program, on the contrary. What I remember is that it was very complicated long and hard work to program it, and it took ages. I also remember som reviews I read about it at the time that was of the same opinion. I never liked it and I would not be surprised if KB did spend 2,5 years on it. Regards Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Otso Pakarinen Subject: Re: (kw) experts in e-music hardware: HELP Date: 06 May 1998 10:17:31 +0200 Luca Dassi wrote: > My God! > IMHO DX7 was (is) a tough machine - I had one and it took a while to get > used to, but nevertheless 2.5 years seem to me an enormous amount of > time... DX7 certainly took a while to get used to, because it was very different from the analog synths that everybody had learned to program. I admit actually liking to make sounds with the DX7, but spending 2.5 years JUST programming sounds with it seems ridiculous. I think more likely Bartos sat down with the machine every now and then and made some new sounds, some of which may have been used by KW. And most of the time he did something else. > BTW, most of the sounds used in Electric Cafe do not seem to be > generated by a DX7 - its synthesis technique makes it a poor candidate > for warm sustained sounds, chorus simulation, *real* metallic sounds > that are mostly used in Electric Cafe. Could this be a showcase of > Bartos mastery? I don't think so. Hmmm...many of the sounds may have been hybrids. You know, double the DX7 with an analog synth and a Fairlight. Otso # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Future Music Date: 06 May 1998 10:57:28 +0000 The next issue of Future Music will be featuring an interview with Wolfgang Fluer. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: William Talley Subject: Re: (kw) experts in e-music hardware: HELP Date: 06 May 1998 04:59:06 -0700 >Otso Pakarinen wrote: > > Luca Dassi wrote: > > for warm sustained sounds, chorus simulation, *real* metallic sounds > > that are mostly used in Electric Cafe. Could this be a showcase of > > Bartos mastery? I don't think so. > > Hmmm...many of the sounds may have been hybrids. You know, double the > DX7 with an analog synth and a Fairlight. > > Otso Otso, I really want to believe that they are hybrid but they just sound too damned clean. The schwooping mechanical gear shifting sounds are definately complex - possibly hybrid, but more than likely the mid-to-end section of a longer, more evolving sound. A little cool edit pro work and it would be simple to isolate and maximize an area of a sample... or gate the slave - either way it points to simplicity. The small, short, tick-tock nature of Electric Cafe' is their main theme throughout the album. The nature of the sounds themselves (Kraftwerkian(tm) logic here) should take root from simple sources... A real "hammer and anvil" approach would sound too Neubautenesque(tm), but what could have made EC their best album ever is if they ditched their mechanically reproduced samples that kept on hammering away without any real variences. Repetition, that's a second theme. Slight disappointment a third. They not only used really minimal samples and arranged them minimally, but they decided not to varigate the main driving rhythm which would normally give a song true life. IE - Computer World's basslines. This, I feel is somewhat lacking and unimaginative on their end. And this comes from a really, sincerely sober view. I adore Ralf and Florian - their treated floutistry was way out there and ahead of it's time, to be sure. They have the ability, they have finesse, now if they only had the desire. IE - a real metal hammer striking a real anvil in REAL time. A slight amount of quantization (to ensure focus on the subtlty of the variating sound) and you have a beat that breathes. Ok, now take the imagination of Florian, a twin hose acetylene welding torch, a couple of Lincoln Continental hulls, toss in that be-damned DX7, provide diagrams by Tchkung and a source of power (perhaps forcing them to listen to Current 93's 'Dogs Blood Rising' mixed with The Carpenters 'Close To You' at half speed, oh - on repeat) and you get a taste of five-alarm Americana translated by the most influential electronic music artists of our time (there, I said it... for better or for worse, kiddies.) Their robot doubles would drive the vehicle which would be a mobile concert... that runs on unleaded. Imagine if you replaced K with the band Phish - you would end up with a Microbus that plays Stevie Ray Vaughan and Jimi Hendrix covers while exhausting alaskan thunderfuck and grilling fresh qeusadilla's on the engine/griddle. The only unfortunate thing is that it never scrounges up enough gas money on it's own to tour and it's for the band Phish. If I owned it, I'd add turbo guacamole dispensers and a sonic six porta-moog, careful not to disturb the "bong-along world drums"(c) or the "Argeeleh waveform generator"(c) (hooka enhanced occilators.) I'd also lysol the hell out of it - there is nothing worse than "the nauseating stench of strawberry incense and sweat-soaked Guatemalan wool doused in patchouli oil." - Thunder The Ferret, pet of Zach The Hippie. The creation of sound... however they like to create simple sounds and emulate/mutate/mutilate audio perceptions, it's got a trademark quality that is difficult to define. Oh, here is a link for a really excellant radio retrospective: http://audio.wmnf.org/ram/kraftwerk.ram that I found on Bob Weustinks Kraftwerk page. I wonder if any of these renditions will appear on the rumoured two-disc live set that is supposedly in the works. Any data on this? I really hope it's not just another fabrication... a clean version of 'It's More Fun To Compute' with the jazzy vocoded "compute, compute" would satisfy me, personally. __________ _______________________________________ | o%o [_]| /The Sci-Fi Disco Fembots From Hell(tm)/\ |__________| / http://www.geocities.com/paris/6937 / / /ooo/ /ooo/\ /______________________________________/ / /___/////// /~\_________Analog is my bitch.__________\/ \_________\/ "It's klinkity-klankity disco goodness!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John B. Morgan" Subject: Re: (kw) who built and maintains the robots? Date: 06 May 1998 08:32:50 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 5 May 1998, darren wrote: > still no one has any info on the robots? I don't have immediate access to it at the moment, but Bussy gives the guy's name. As I recall he was/is an Austrian sculptor. ******************************************************************************* John Morgan "The heroes of the epics of India are not Student Services, individuals, but whole reels of individual- The University of Michigan ities in a series of incarnations." LS&A Honors Program --Hermann Hesse, http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jbmorgan/ STEPPENWOLF including The Colin Wilson Page # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) Kraftwelt CD Date: 06 May 1998 15:29:30 +0200 Sawn at the Virgin Megastore: An album by Kraftwelt (in the Kraftwerk Section) called "Deranged in Space". On the backcover: "Dedicated to Ralf + Florian". Greets from Vienna, Georgie -- *********************** Georg Jajus (Vienna) ********************** * Internet: http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * * Mail: a9401326@unet.univie.ac.at or Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at * ************** "In Wien sitzen wir im Nachtcafe..." *************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SR Records Subject: (kw) DX7 etc Date: 06 May 1998 11:46:52 EDT I don't know why everyone thinks that this synth is so incredibly difficult to program.........it's not like an analog synthesizer in the way it creates sounds but a few glances towards it and one gets the feel for what it does. . . .it's got EGs like any other synth. . .etc. .. ..the main think to be concerned about is the freq, the output level of each operator/velocity, and the specific algorithm that all these things are involved in - it really only takes a little experimentation to be able to either imitate an analog synth or create completely different textures. Personally - I find a lot of the DX sounds pretty lifeless but I do use it a lot for non-tonal sounds - and I believe that KW used it for a lot of the percussive sounds on EC - but who knows. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) Wo ist Andreas ?? Date: 06 May 1998 09:51:43 -0700 Major dilemma! WHERE is this guy "Andreas" ? -(Stuttgart. That's all the info I have. No last name.)- He Emailed me Apr 6, 7 and 13. We exchanged a few messages. He asked me to order 2 Warfield tickets for him. I said I would and then he disappeared. I never got the chance to send him my Snail Mail Address before he broke contact, so, ofcourse, he never sent any money for the tickets. -(He had also said he'd be staying in San Fransisco from June 5 to June 9. But, I have no clue WHERE. I think he also asked about Hotels, so, it's not like he has relatives in the area.)- My Emails to him are NOT getting bounced, so, I can only guess that he's away from home or his computer is down and messages are piling up on his server. Technically, I don't "owe" him, but, still, I'd hate to let him down if he's depending on me and TRYing to reach me. -(What are the chances that tickets will sell out? Could he buy them at the door? I dunno.)- I can't afford to be stuck with 2 tickets that I can't use. Could I sell them outside the venue before the show without getting busted? Would anyone BUY them? Does anyone on the List want them? I really need the money so I can pay for the room I booked. -(info in separate post)- Being too nice is a pain in the @$$ sometimes. I really wanted to help this guy. But, for whatever reason, he can't or wont contact me- what can I do? ROBOT@humboldt1.com aka: Melanie Jean Mayfield 805 "M" Street Eureka, CA 95501-1947 USA http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: computermusic@post.cz Subject: (kw)DX7 and Comics Date: 06 May 1998 18:58:16 +0200 Hi All! I hear that some people programming good sound on DX7 ten years..... from music magazines :-).DX7 is not analog synthesizer with knobs but digital with buttons.Maybe users of DX7 read ten years original manual-in japanese :-). I think that more sounds on EC are from E-mu Emulator,because in 1986 Kraftwerk own this sampler. BTW comics of Kraftwerk you can find here: http://www.music.cz/kapely/kraftwerk/kwpicturea.html Thanks ROBOT and other poeple from list Bye Computer Music alias Metropolis from Prague Czech Republic My E-Mail: computermusic@post.cz My Pages: Kraftwerk CZ http://www.music.cz/kapely/kraftwerk Computer Music http://www.mamedia.cz/home/COMPUTER_MUSIC.html IRC channel #kraftwerk ( 18:00 - 24:00 CET) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom.Chao@harpercollins.com (Tom Chao) Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk ad in Village Voice Date: 06 May 1998 13:41:26 -0400 Quarter-page ad appears on page 110 (Voice Choices) of the Village Voice, May 12, 1998 issue. Tickets for the Hammerstein Ballroom show go on sale Friday at 12:00 noon. No price given. I have not been inside this venue but judging from the televised Burt Bacharach tribute (featuring E. Costello) it looks like a big art deco palace. Sadly the June 13 show date coincides with one of my own one-man shows I'm peforming here in downtown Manhattan, but I may buy a ticket anyway, in the chance that I can get over there when I finish. The ad doesn't specify a time or if there are any opening acts. I do plan to go to DC the next day, 6/14, to see them at the Tibetfest. Tom X. Chao # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) Union Square Plaza Hotel, SF. Date: 06 May 1998 11:09:42 -0700 Here's where Christoph and I will be staying in San Fransisco. There's room for 1-2 more! -(I'm still looking for someone to share a room with me in Los Angeles)- Union Square Plaza Hotel 432 Geary Street San Fransisco We'll be there 2 nights: June 6 & June 7 The Union Square Plaza Hotel is cheaper than the Holiday Inn Civic Center, equally nice, and it's actually a bit closer to the Warfield, if I read the map correctly. Everything we need is right there within 1-2 blocks: Restaurants, stores, etc. Yeah, everyone says it's a rough neighborhood. Just be AWARE and watch your stuff. I don't have any specific details about the room, other that it has 2 queensized beds and it's $87 + tax for 2 people. I'm sure we'll be quite comfortable. -(If 1 or 2 other people want to join us, I'm sure we can clear it with the front desk. Simply add about $10 per person and split the costs.)- There is no free shuttle service to/from the Airport, but, I'm checking public transit info, etc. Otherwise, there's a shuttle van that charges $10 per person to go between SFO and downtown. -(BART doesn't go out to the the Airport. But, they're WERKing on it...)- Since the Warfield show is General Admission on the Main Floor, I hope Fellow WERKaholiKs will meet up with us in line, starting as early as possible to get decent seats. Say, 4pm? Earlier, maybe? We can party somewhere afterwards. There's a gillion places right close by. ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw)DX7 and Comics Date: 06 May 1998 11:18:42 -0700 computermusic@post.cz sez: >BTW comics of Kraftwerk you can find here: >http://www.music.cz/kapely/kraftwerk/kwpicturea.html > >Thanks ROBOT and other poeple from list Thank YOU! I have the comics in jpg format, and some people can't see 'em on Eudora, etc. Are there anymore KW KomiX in the series? I still want 'em all!*HeeHee*! I'll keep checking your page. -(It takes for-fucking-EVer to download, but, it's worth it!)- ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Otso Pakarinen Subject: Re: (kw) experts in e-music hardware: HELP Date: 06 May 1998 23:20:23 +0200 William Talley wrote: >=20 > >Otso Pakarinen wrote: > > Hmmm...many of the sounds may have been hybrids. You know, double the > > DX7 with an analog synth and a Fairlight. >=20 > Otso, I really want to believe that they are hybrid but they just > sound too damned clean.=20 I have to admit you're right. I just listened EC just to spot the DX7 sounds. The DX7 sounds are all over the place in "Techno Pop", "Telephone Call", "Sex Object" and "Electric Caf=E9" and they are no hybrids, just plain "clean but farty" old DX. The only hybrid candidate I found was the bass(ish) line in Electric Caf=E9 but it could also be 3 DX7's as well. My overall impression is that the rhythm parts are mostly analog (and they still sound damn good to me!), sampling was used mainly for speech (synthesizer) clips & other obviously sampled stuff and most of the tuned instrument parts (chords etc) are DX7. Bartos may have programmed the DX7 sounds very carefully, but nevertheless they sound dated to me. After all, the DX7 had a rather limited sonic vocabulary. Otso # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TPURE Subject: Re: (kw) Union Square Plaza Hotel, SF. Date: 06 May 1998 18:09:12 EDT Hello Robot! I'm flying to L.A. from N.J. to attend both CA shows. I e-mailed my friend in L.A. to see if he'd be interested in splitting the room with you two. Hopefully he will get back to me about it tonight or tomorrow. By the way, we bought our San Fran tickets this past Monday, & all we could get were balcony seats. Perhaps the show has been selling well. It sounded like you bought two extra tickets, is this so? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) tickets.de page Date: 07 May 1998 01:10:23 -0700 Jeez- the tickets.de page has shifted KRAFTWERK to "art3" now.... -(Massive Attack?!!)- KRAFTWERK Tour Info: http://www.tickets.de/artists/art3.html I guess every time it changes, just shift it down a number or two. -(Hm-m, I wonder if they corrected the phone numbers yet.)- Okay- who wants my 2 extra SF tickets? I figure if Andreas wants the tickets, and if his Computer IS down, he'd get to the nearest InterNet access and contact me. So, they're fair game, eh? I just hope he's okay- I'm worried about him. ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Konvoy List Update Date: 07 May 1998 09:17:00 +0100 Reading between the lines it appears some folks are having problems arranging accomodation/room/apartment/partner sharing. My konvoy page has been a success, but i have no idea whether it is being used for it's intended purpose, ie to solve the above dilemas. Well, that's what it's there for! Jules Seifert http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/konvoy98/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) the number you have reached has been... Date: 07 May 1998 13:03:41 +0100 there are many 'the telephone call' like samples to be had here: http://www.ameritech.net/users/jmartino/files1.html enjoy! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Bartos interview Date: 07 May 1998 17:51:53 +0200 (DFT) The current issue of the German magazine Nova Files contains an interview with Karl Bartos. Relevant information: a) A "Kraftwerk reunion" is as likely as the reconstruction of the Berlin wall. b) According to Bartos, "The Young Urban Professional" is in fact a Kraftwerk song, which was written in 1986, during the work for "Electric Cafe". c) "Sunshine" will be the next Electric Music single. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SR Records Subject: Re: (kw) experts in e-music hardware: HELP Date: 07 May 1998 12:26:57 EDT In a message dated 5/6/98 8:18:14 PM, Osto wrote: <> ---I disagree with certain points of this - I think a lot of the rhythm was DX-7 - certain rhythmic sections in "Techno-Pop" expecially are exceedingly DX - they sound like short FM percussive sounds that were programmed with a massive amount of Key Velocity so as to "open the sound up" the harder the key is pressed (or programmed.....) Other sounds are obviously sampled......still others are most likely analog (blips mainly.....) DX7 limited sonic vocabulary? Only insomuch as it only used sine waves as its sound source - but in fact it is a pretty deep synthesizer (especially for 1983's consumer market) - one just has to know it inside and out. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.li Date: 07 May 1998 18:15:21 +0200 (DFT) www.kraftwerk.li has "changed"... Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) New Album? Date: 07 May 1998 17:41:32 +0200 (DFT) The new Kraftwerk album will be released this month, according to Loop 5/1998. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@mail.club-internet.fr Subject: (kw) New sound on Kraftwerk.com Date: 07 May 1998 19:58:56 +0100 Cool sound file when you go to the kraftwerk official site... JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@mail.club-internet.fr Subject: (kw) New soundS... Date: 07 May 1998 20:03:48 +0100 And you also have a robot sample on the robot page ! JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) tickets.de page Date: 07 May 1998 11:06:55 -0700 ROBOT reports: >Jeez- the tickets.de page has shifted KRAFTWERK to "art3" >now.... -(Massive Attack?!!)- KORREKTION: Fred Becker just informed me it's back up to 4 now. Jeez.... Make up my MIND already. They keep changing it! -(ThanX Fred! OH- Did you get yer Ticket in the mail yet? I mailed it Monday. I'm holding the rest- so you guys better FIND me in SF! I'll be at SFO, or at the Hotel {Union Square Plaza 432 Geary}, or in front of the Warfield a few hours before the gig. No excuse not knowing where I am. Just look for a short fat chick with LONG red hair & glasses- doing ROBOT mime, most likely. I'll keep y'all posted.)- KRAFTWERK Tour Info: http://www.tickets.de/artists/art4.html I think I might have 2 more bodies to bunk with Christoph and me in SF. How'bout L.A? Any takers? And the REST o'youse guys- get together and help each other out in the other cities, eh? Windy City/Chi-Town, Motor City/MOTOWN, da Big Apple- and I don't mean MacIntosh.*snicker*. ONE MONTH till the SF show!!*SCREEEAM*!! Blither-Blather.... *DROOL* ps: NEW Album THIS MONTH??!! I'll believe it when I SEE it- and HEAR it. *sigh* ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@slab.ntt.co.jp (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: Re: (kw) Future Music Date: 07 May 1998 16:18:06 +0900 Klaus Zaepke wrote: >The next issue of Future Music will be featuring an interview with >Wolfgang Fluer. Hallo Klaus, Many thanks as always! 8-) Very sorry to bother you a lot, but may I know which month is the "next issue" ? It's pretty distant from the British publisher to my city, and the mag don't always come on time... ;-) Thanks in advance, Hiroshi. ---- Hiroshi MURATA (NTT Software Labs./Musashino Tokyo Japan) (work) (private) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RoBoten Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.li Date: 07 May 1998 20:50:44 +0200 At 18:15 1998-05-07 +0200, Klaus Zaepke wrote: > >www.kraftwerk.li has "changed"... Hrmm. I've checked out that mr Andreas Kuckartz has registered a whole lot of domains... kraftwerk.de(Germany),kraftwerk.tm(Turkmenistan), kraftwerk.li(Liechtenstein), kraftwerk.com(Intl/Commercial), kraftwerk.org(Intl/Organisation (Hrmm. Back to 70's ;)) and kraftwerk.net (Intl/Net Provider (!) ). Wonder what they are planning. btw.. Check out www.kraftwerk.no(Norway)- They even have radioactivity-symbols at their link images ;) The ultimate would be to reg www.kw (kuwait) ! ;P //RoBoten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RoBoten Subject: (kw) Hansson & Karlsson Date: 07 May 1998 21:01:18 +0200 Not ultra KW-related, but maybe pre-KW related..=20 Swedish experimental psychedelic jazz/rock duo Hansson & Karlsson (Bo Hansson at Hammond Organ and Jan Karlsson at drums) will play in Stockholm the 17th of May at Mosebacke. Entrance fee would be 150SKR (about $18 or =A312)..=20 Hansson & Karlsson started play in the beginning of the 70's, and reminds somewhat about early Kraftwerk stuff. If there is someone out in the big bad world that knows about these "Swedish R&F" dudes, let me hear from you.. //RoBoten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Schepers Subject: AW: (kw) www.kraftwerk.li Date: 07 May 1998 20:09:06 +0200 IMHO, they just try to reserve kraftwerk as secondary-level domains = under=20 as many toplevel-domains as they can get, to protect the trademark=20 kraftwerk (tm) ;) .andreas ---- Andreas Schepers NetMedia GmbH=09 Information Design Schubertstra=DFe 8 schepers@net-media.de 66111 Saarbruecken http://www.net-media.de -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: RoBoten [SMTP:RoBot@abc.se] Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 7. Mai 1998 20:51 An: Klaus Zaepke; kraftwerk@xmission.com Cc: Klaus Zaepke Betreff: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.li At 18:15 1998-05-07 +0200, Klaus Zaepke wrote: > >www.kraftwerk.li has "changed"... Hrmm. I've checked out that mr Andreas Kuckartz has registered a whole = lot of domains... kraftwerk.de(Germany),kraftwerk.tm(Turkmenistan), kraftwerk.li(Liechtenstein), kraftwerk.com(Intl/Commercial), kraftwerk.org(Intl/Organisation (Hrmm. Back to 70's ;)) and = kraftwerk.net (Intl/Net Provider (!) ). Wonder what they are planning. btw.. Check out www.kraftwerk.no(Norway)- They even have radioactivity-symbols at their link images ;) The ultimate would be to reg www.kw (kuwait) ! ;P //RoBoten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original=20 sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ:=20 http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: abzug Subject: Re: (kw) Future Music Date: 07 May 1998 21:28:35 +0100 Klaus worote: >The next issue of Future Music will be featuring an interview with >Wolfgang Fluer. Hiroshi wrote: >Many thanks as always! 8-) >Very sorry to bother you a lot, but may I know which month >is the "next issue" ? Issue 70, June 1998 - It's due to hit the newsagents on 8th May. I have a subscription to this magazine, so as soon as it arrives (tomorrow hopefully) I'll scan the interview and email it to anyone who wants to read it, OK? Email me off list if you're interested. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: andrew48@gti.net Subject: (kw) Page update (SF info) Date: 07 May 1998 20:13:17 -0400 I've updated my page with a new section. Right now all I have up is the San fran show info. I have some pics of the Warfield theatre and I have a little picture map of it from expedia i think. Check it out and I need your help with the other shows; any pictures of where they will be playing or info would be greatly appreciated. DIRECT LINK: http://www.angelfire.com/nj/groovethang/sanfran.html Other at the end of my signature. Andrew from ze Computer Welt: http://www.angelfire.com/nj/groovethang # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Otso Pakarinen Subject: Re: (kw) experts in e-music hardware: HELP Date: 08 May 1998 11:24:14 +0200 SR Records wrote: > ---I disagree with certain points of this - I think a lot of the rhythm was > DX-7 - certain rhythmic sections in "Techno-Pop" expecially are exceedingly DX > - they sound like short FM percussive sounds that were programmed with a > massive amount of Key Velocity so as to "open the sound up" the harder the key > is pressed (or programmed.....) Other sounds are obviously sampled......still > others are most likely analog (blips mainly.....) I just listened "Techno-Pop" again, and yes, some of the short "click" sounds could be DX7. I'm fairly sure that the bass drum and KW trademark "snap" sounds are analog, though. > DX7 limited sonic vocabulary? Only insomuch as it only used sine waves as its > sound source - but in fact it is a pretty deep synthesizer (especially for > 1983's consumer market) - one just has to know it inside and out. Yes, and I DO know it inside out (and I still use our DX7 sound modules sometimes). I bought a DX7 right when it came out and I was fascinated about it. It was a revolutionary synth, no doubt about it. The DX7 sounds were DIFFERENT from the analog sounds that we had before. But nonetheless, DX7 was limited (compared to more recent synths). Heck, you couldn't get decent noise out of it! Otso # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ea94rema@ihh.hj.se (MARKUS REINEVIK) Subject: (kw) School radio program Date: 08 May 1998 11:30:50 + 100 I have a taped recording of a Swedish school radio program about Kraftwerk (+ a couple of bootlegs), which I am interested in trading (swap) for other taped Kraftwerk radio programs, bootlegs etc. The program is in German, since we listened to it during German class in upper secondary high, where it was a part of a series of School radio programs about German culture etc. The 15 minutes long program contains a basic introduction to Kraftwerk, its music, lyrics, philosophy and so on. If you are interested in exchanging tapes or want to ask anything, please mail me. Don't miss this opportunity to learn how to pronounce Kraftwerk, D=FCsseldorf and Ralf & Florian correctly! (I could of course attach an English translation if German isn't your favourite language!) Regards, Marcus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM Subject: (kw) Kraftwelt CD Date: 08 May 1998 06:07:12 EDT bought that CD in Brussels about 2 years ago. It's basically an > interminably dull journey through the same track (by title anyway) by loads of > different artists. The only track worth listening to is the ONE that has a > different title (I can't remember right now): > > It's got excellent vocoder voices saying tings like "A 100 Modulsystem" and > other techno-speak. The beat is fairly easy and the drum sounds are a bit > motown sounding. > > Intrigued ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: FW: (kw) New sound on Kraftwerk.com Date: 08 May 1998 12:14:36 +0200 Ehhmm... Either I'm blind and death, or you've been missing something for long... /Joakim -----Original Message----- Cool sound file when you go to the kraftwerk official site... JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: valere Subject: (kw) DC concert Date: 08 May 1998 17:06:18 +0200 Hi, I'm desperate to buy a ticket for the Wash DC concert of Kraftwerk Would anyone be able to tell me how to do so from Europe, or would anyone buy one for me ? (I'll gladly pay for teh service) -- Thomas VALERE valere@wiley.co.uk -- PS: Since the 70ies, Kraftwerk has been my favorite band Saw them twice in Paris At Lost Boys Belgium 19/20 square Meeus 1050 Bruxelles Belgique tel: +32 (0)2 513 44 99 fax: +32 (0)2 513 45 44 http://www.lostcity.nl At Home 70 rue des Champs-Elysees 1050 Bruxelles, Belgique 32 2 648 10 86 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jorge Aguayo Subject: (kw) New guy profile Date: 08 May 1998 09:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Hi! My name is Jorge and I was introduced to Kraftwerk about 11 years ago, with their "electric cafe" album. Since then, I've seen that it is hard to find their music. I'm an Electronics Engineer and I live near the US/Mexico border. Places to see around here are San Diego in the US and Tijuana, Ensenada and San Felipe (places known because of their off road races, organized by SCORE and CORP) in Baja, Mexico. I'm looking for videos (not concerts) and music, such us Tour de France and The Model in CD format. I hope somebody could help me out! I need information on how to get tickets for the Hollywood Kraftwerk concert '98. Are they available in TicketMaster? Read you later! e-mail: aguayoj@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: altrnote@sprynet.com Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk NYC Tickets Date: 08 May 1998 12:41:35 -0500 I just called to order tickets for the NYC concert June 13 at Hammerstein. The number for Ticketmaster is 212-307-7171 (not the number listed on the web at ticketmaster.de!) I got through on my second try. Floor admission (no seats) tix cost $30 plus fees. Mezzanine (allegedly with seating according to my salesperson) were a few dollars more. All but the $3 order charge was refundable if the concert were cancelled. ...in case anyone was wondering. See you there! Joe Schepis altrnote@sprynet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk NYC Tickets Date: 08 May 1998 14:13:28 EDT On Fri, 08 May 1998 12:41:35 -0500 altrnote@sprynet.com writes: > >I just called to order tickets for the NYC concert June 13 at >Hammerstein. > >The number for Ticketmaster is 212-307-7171 (not the number listed on >the >web at ticketmaster.de!) I got through on my second try. > >Floor admission (no seats) tix cost $30 plus fees. Mezzanine >(allegedly >with seating according to my salesperson) were a few dollars more. > >All but the $3 order charge was refundable if the concert were >cancelled. > >...in case anyone was wondering. > >See you there! > btw, fairly reliable sources leaked that LFO and AUTECHRE will be opening.... tom w np: planet dub _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Young" Subject: (kw) newish member with NYC ticket Date: 08 May 1998 12:34:22 PDT Hi to all list recipients, A brief intro here. I'm Jeff Young, a 30 y/o legal worker/translator in New York (ja, Deutsch was meine erste Fremdsprache). I've been getting the digest maybe two months now but haven't felt able to really contribute anything that you don't know already and perceive a strong read-the-archives sentiment, so I'd be hesitant to just ramble. Anyway, I've been a fan since '81 when I began studying German and first heard "Autobahn." Since then, of course, I've gotten all the German-language versions of the CD's and have my treasured "Tour de France" 12", but that's it really. No rarities, no bootlegs, no videos except the ubiquitous "Pocket Calculator" MTV runs now and then, nothing else. When I did my Middlebury College radio German show ('87-'89), I played plenty of KW naturally--the tape I made of their copy of R & F has since been eaten though :-( Well, I thought I might die without seeing KW after the last NYC cancellations, but I sit here with a ticket in front of me (staring at it in awe) and will see a bunch of you at the Hammerstein! Now where do I find a Mensch-Maschine-red shirt? :-) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark Subject: (kw) new york Date: 08 May 1998 17:37:27 -0400 I was a little bummed out today to find out that tickets were general admission. But, I got my tickets, so I'm happy. Also I called ticketmaster at 1 PM to see how sales were doing and they told me that the first balcony was sold out, they still had second balcony and floor tickets. I'm guessing that the second balcony is sold by now. Here are some stats for you all: 1st floor Standing 2500 1st Balcony Seated 587 2nd Balcony Seated 592 Total 3,679 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ God is my favorite fictional character. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) experts in e-music hardware: HELP Date: 09 May 1998 01:04:07 +0200 [2.5 years to learn programming dx7] >Now a question opened for debate between the experts in these tools: >do you think it's reasonable to spend that amount of time in doing >this programming? Was it so difficult at that time? well, it was difficult. if you had to master it this could be a long, long but still reasonable time, expecially if you had to do other jobs for living, that I think could be the case of Bartos. then you ask a very good question: was it reasonable to spent all this time just learning? well, for me, no: it was unreasonable, unless you are aiming to become the yamaha engineer that have to develop dx7 II. I mean, it's like spending 1 year to learn netscape 2 when they are coming out so fast... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) SONAR 98 Date: 09 May 1998 02:03:58 +0200 >I've talked over the phone to someone at Advanced Music, the >promoters of the SONAR festival. They say the tickets will go on sale >in two weeks. This is contradictory with their web page. do you know if it is possible to buy them outside Spain or France? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BEUTHET@wl.aecl.ca Subject: (kw) The DECISION! (KW Articles) Congrats Melanie! Date: 08 May 1998 22:39:54 -0400 All right! It's Friday That means it's time to make up my mind! Here's the summary and the conditional decision on the "Kraftwerk Articles" I want to give away. All in all, 14 people sent messages to me indicating an interest in receiving the old KW articles I have here. Of all of the people that contacted me, I think ROBOT aka Melanie Jean Mayfield (what a nice name!) put up the most convincing argument. A number of you also indicated privately that someone like her might be the most appropriate. As far I can see, ROBOT is someone that would treat this material seriously. Melanie has a lot of time, is CERTAINLY the most enthusiastic (or at least the most VOCAL ;-), and would be willing to invest the effort it takes to scan all of these articles and make them available to everyone else. Some of you also offered to do this, but I think she made the strongest case. Keep in mind (for all of the others) that these are NOT the ORIGINAL newspaper clippings (they would be rather yellow now), but rather good photocopies of them instead. So in some sense they are not "true" collectors items, but the INFORMATION is in there, which in my mind is really the most important thing anyway. Now if Melanie agrees to make copies available to those who REALLY want a copy, and post good quality scans of these articles, I think we have a deal. That way, everyone can benefit! I am going to send Melanie a summary of all of the correspondence that was sent to me so she can get in touch with everyone else. If she inadvertantly happens to miss any of you, please contact me, and I'll make sure she gets in touch with you, or contact her yourself after a reasonable wait. Furthermore (there are always two sides to a coin aren't there!), if I could politely suggest, Melanie seems to indicate that she may NOT be in the best of financial health at this point in time, so if you DO ask for hardcopies or want her to provide you with scans of the articles, a little support in kind might be appropriate. I'm not talking about cash here, but perhaps a copy of some rare article you have lying around or something might do wonders to lift her spirit! BOY! I'm starting to feel really good about this! NOW, for everyone else, please also consider the fact that almost ALL (or at least about 99%) of these articles are in German. Perhaps someone ELSE would volunteer to translate them? Perhaps Klaus and Stephen and anyone else who contacted me who's fluent in German could pool their resources here, and take Melanie's scanned versions, and provide translations for them? Perhaps Melanie would also consent to have the scans mirrored on other people's sites so that access is easy for everyone? After all, high quality scans can tend to start taking up quite a bit of space, and not all of us have this kind of spare space lying around... (Or MAYBE this might be an incentive for Melanie to learn German? ;-) I think that's how it's going to go, unless someone objects very loudly or feels hard done by... ROBOT... You've been elected! Do you accept? If so, please contact me privately, and we'll arrange the transfer! I can send out the articles by post tomorrow (Saturday) if you're in a REAL hurry) or Monday if you like. Let me know if you want them insured or sent by special courier or anything... I'd also like to take this opportunity to thank everyone else that indicated in interest in this material. I'm very glad that it's going to find a nice home, and that it can be of use to everyone! I must admit some of your "bribes" were VERY tempting, but I'm not really in this for profit! :-) I'll be most happy to know that the material won't get lost, and that it will be of use to others. All the best! Thomas Beuthe # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EJRSemiGod Subject: Re: (kw) The DECISION! (KW Articles) Congrats Melanie! Date: 08 May 1998 23:06:27 EDT In a message dated 98-05-08 22:51:28 EDT, BEUTHET@wl.aecl.ca writes: << Perhaps Melanie would also consent to have the scans mirrored on other people's sites so that access is easy for everyone? After all, high quality scans can tend to start taking up quite a bit of space, and not all of us have this kind of spare space lying around... >> After losing the chance to have the articles in my hands (nutz! :) ), I will offer 2 megs of space (or more!) to whoever scans these. I would, but I don't have them :D Here's to hoping they'll get scanned! EJRDuck! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Adrian Proctor" Subject: (kw) Karl Bartos interview Date: 08 May 1998 22:47:49 -0600 In case you haven't seen it, there is an excellent interview with Karl Bartos in the March 1998 issue of Sound on Sound. Although most of the interview is related to the new album by Electric Music, there is an interesting sidebar on Karl's days with Kraftwerk. Reference is made to the Technopop album, and Karl states that he felt that the Technopop version of Electric Cafe was much better and they should have released it instead. Adrian Proctor aproctor@telusplanet.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: (kw) Cabaret Voltaire Date: 09 May 1998 01:13:04 EDT Just wondering if anyone knows anything about Cabaret Voltaire? I picked up the double LP "Drinking Gasoline" for $2 at a used record store. Perfect condition, no skips or scratches. It was one of those I took a chance on, having only heard OF them. Turns out it was a good gamble...I like it! Unfortunately I can't think of any of my friends that would. Sounds kind of like Kraftwerk meets the Butthole Surfers, or Kraftwerk backing Arthur Brown on acid... Anyway, by listening to it, I suspect that there are some CV fans in this KW group. Am I right? Bill Dobiesz N8TLC "Huggy Bear" n8tlc@juno.com FidoNet 1:120/650 ITCnet 85:871/851 LifestylesNet 66:1810/101 ICQ UIN 7298861 np: Cabaret Voltaire - Sleepwalking _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TPURE Subject: RE: (kw) Cabaret Voltaire Date: 09 May 1998 04:18:15 EDT <> CV was phenomenal (absolute GENIUS). One of my favorite groups, period. Their sound varied through out the years, but hear are my fave albums: The Crackdown, Micro Phonies, Arm of the Lord, & Code. CV & KW changed my life, what more is left to say? tIMPURE # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jseifert@technologist.com (Jules Seifert) Subject: Re: (kw) new york Date: 09 May 1998 12:35:32 GMT mark wrote: > >I was a little bummed out today to find out that tickets >were general admission. But, I got my tickets, so I'm happy. > >Also I called ticketmaster at 1 PM to see how sales were doing and >they told me that the first balcony was sold out, they still had >second balcony and floor tickets. I'm guessing that the second=20 >balcony is sold by now. > >Here are some stats for you all: > >1st floor Standing 2500 >1st Balcony Seated 587 >2nd Balcony Seated 592 > Total 3,679 > I still don't get the picture. Are you saying you'd rather have a balcony?? sheesh..... ciao, Jules Seifert The Voice of Energy!! #Kraftwerk IRC homepage:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ No:- 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark Subject: (kw) re:new york Date: 09 May 1998 09:21:27 -0400 >I still don't get the picture. Are you saying you'd rather have a >balcony?? I think most people would, and that is why the balcony costs more. To me this would depend on the venue. At the Hammeretein the balcony would give you a great view and you would be able to sit through the warm up bands (the latest rumor is that there will be two). I'm sure there are some people who don't mind standing for 5 hours but I'm not one of them. Also, as someone else mentioned, a persons height is always a factor. I think someone who is 6'4" would enjoy the floor more than someone who is 5'4" Mark +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ God is my favorite fictional character. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "\" Shop smart. Shop 'S' Mart. \"" Subject: (kw) Got my NYC tix yesterday Date: 09 May 1998 10:17:14 -0400 I got tix to the NYC show yesterday. They were $35.00 each. I purchased two and after the assorted Ticketmaster fees the total was $84.00. Hammerstein Ballroom's address is 311 w. 34th St. bet. 8th/9th. There has been no mention of an opening band. Did anyone try to see Rammstein this past Wednesday (6 May 98) @ The Roxy in NYC? From what I witnessed, it was a debacle. We were never permitted inside the venue and the NYFD was a conspicuous presence outside on the street. R.O. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kotta" Subject: (kw) Instore Sampler Date: 09 May 1998 20:00:36 +0200 Here's info on the Kraftwerk Instore Sampler available at www.hotstuff.se. KRAFTWERK (computerworld font, OCR) INSTORE SAMPLER KRAFT 001 side 1: Tour de France (Kevorkian remix 6.48) Technopop (1983 version 4.37) side 2: Radioactivity (Kevorkian remix 7.26) The Model (Carbonic mix 5.17) wich btw was the worst 'homemade' remix I've heard in years! Is there anyone who knows who made it? That's it for now, later... Kotta # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "abzug" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk NYC Tickets Date: 09 May 1998 09:57:07 +0100 >btw, fairly reliable sources leaked that LFO and AUTECHRE will be >opening.... if that's the case it'll a fucking brilliant concert! you jammy bastards! :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Klaus Dinger News Date: 09 May 1998 20:40:19 +0000 From the new Captain Trip Records mailorder catalogue: CTCD-100/101 La! NEU? / Cha Cha 2000 - Live in Tokyo (2-CD) $ 32.00 Description: "'Cha Cha 2000' is 1 h 45 min for one song! with big colour poster cover." Release date is May 20th, AFAIK. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) Who wants 2 SF tickets? Date: 09 May 1998 13:06:58 -0700 Tickets anyone? Tic-KETS? HELP!! Time is getting short, and I'm totally broke. Will SOMEbody PLEASE buy my extra 2 tickets for the Warfield? PRETTY PLEASE?? Main Floor, general admission. I'm asking $70 for the pair within the USA. If you contact me QUICK I can mail them to you right away. If you're outside the USA, please enclose an extra $5 for registered mail so you'll GET them safely in time. OR I could HOLD the tickets and you can meet me in line in front of the Warfield by around 4pm, or maybe earlier at the Union Square Plaza Hotel 432 Geary if I'm not at the airport watching for R&F's plane to come in- that is, if they don't fly in the day before. I still need 2 more people to share expenses. It's just Christoph and me so far for June 6 & 7. Nice room; $89, 2 double beds. -(So there's room for 2 more. Add about $10 a person and split the cost 4 ways.)- Come on, I snore, but, I don't BYTE. It'll be a mellow slumber party. I gotta get up early the next morning and figure out how I'm gonna get to the San Jose Airport to catch a plane to Burbank. Southwest Airlines $39 California Fun Fares! http://www.travelocity.com -Thanks to Fred Becker for the info! If I find a similar cheap deal directly out of SFO, I'll go for that instead, even if I get stuck at LAX. No big deal. There's a shuttle to Burbank, which is a lot closer to Hollywood. I STILL need somebodies to share a room near the Palladium. Ofcourse, I still have no clue HOW I'm going to afford bus/plane fare, hotel, etc. fuck poverty. I'm getting really desperate. >:[[ *GRRR* If others will share expenses, I just MIGHT make it. Barely. -(The utilities will probably be shut off soon, but, I don't care. I HAVE to see KRAFTWERK!! That's the only POWER PLANT I need, and my only incentive for living. Yes, it's THAT bad. So, if I lose access to the InterNet, you'll know why.)- On a lighter note- I had another funny dream: Bonnie Raitt in Konzert at the Warfield the night before KW. I'm at her show -(I wish!)- and she steps up to the mike before she sings and says: "What IS all this E-lectronic 'Mad-Scientist' stuff set up back stage?? And what's with the ROBOTS? I swear, one of 'em tried to GRAB me! Who ARE these guys?? What's going ON here tomorrow night? I'll be down the road." "Make me an angel that flies from Montgomery...." What can I say? I like Bonnie Raitt. -(WAY better than the Spice Girls ANY day!)- It would be nice if I could see her show the night before and case the joint. Besides, Ralf & Florian just MIGHT be there a day early to set up KlingKlang back stage ahead of time, and Bonnie and her crew are liable to be tripping over their wires!*HeeHee*! Okay- who wants 2 tickets? Kyte me! I need the money DESPERATELY!! PS: I asked BEUTHET to give the KW articles to SemiGod. Reality check: My "life" is too screwed up right now, so, the articles would be safer with someone else. BTW: my Email to BEUTHET@wl.aecl.ca bounced. Are you out there? Please contact me! later. ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace -(DAMN! My page is STILL in Limbo!)- +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) new york Date: 09 May 1998 16:49:27 +0500 On 09-May-98, mark wrote: >I was a little bummed out today to find out that tickets >were general admission. But, I got my tickets, so I'm happy. Me too. :-) >Also I called ticketmaster at 1 PM to see how sales were doing and >they told me that the first balcony was sold out, they still had >second balcony and floor tickets. I'm guessing that the second >balcony is sold by now. The first balcony was sold out when I got there (around 1 PM), but I got tix for the second balcony. Oboy oboy... -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jose Garcia" Subject: (kw) Aktivitaet Online update Date: 09 May 1998 23:08:05 +0000 Hi, A message to let you know about a detailed kw biography I've been asked to write (in Spanish) for publication. This is now at the Aktivitaet Online pages: Jose Garcia Aktivitaet Spain: aktivitat@arrakis.es Aktivitaet Online (Unofficial Kraftwerk fanzine) http://www.arrakis.es/~jgc/aktivitat.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) new york Date: 09 May 1998 17:40:22 EDT On Sat, 09 May 1998 16:49:27 +0500 Christopher Gross writes: > >On 09-May-98, mark wrote: > >>I was a little bummed out today to find out that tickets >>were general admission. But, I got my tickets, so I'm happy. > >Me too. :-) > >>Also I called ticketmaster at 1 PM to see how sales were doing and >>they told me that the first balcony was sold out, they still had >>second balcony and floor tickets. I'm guessing that the second >>balcony is sold by now. > >The first balcony was sold out when I got there (around 1 PM), but I >got tix >for the second balcony. Oboy oboy... > gotta hand it to those autechre fans..... tom w np: ae - tri repetae _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) Who wants 2 SF tickets? Date: 09 May 1998 16:07:51 -0600 (MDT) On Sat, 9 May 1998, ROBOT wrote: > HELP!! Time is getting short, and I'm totally broke. Will SOMEbody > PLEASE buy my extra 2 tickets for the Warfield? PRETTY PLEASE?? Main > Floor, general admission. I'm asking $70 for the pair within the USA. Can't you return them? I wish I could afford them. I'd have them framed or something. > Ofcourse, I still have no clue HOW I'm going to afford bus/plane fare, > hotel, etc. fuck poverty. Yeah, that's what cancelled the trip for me. Not even Mr. Visa can take that strain. :( :( :( > Okay- who wants 2 tickets? Kyte me! I need the money DESPERATELY!! Would somebody kindly buy one or both of the tickets? Surely someone is going to the SF show, has a job and hasn't bought tickets yet! /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EJRSemiGod Subject: Re: (kw) Who wants 2 SF tickets? Date: 09 May 1998 18:15:48 EDT In a message dated 98-05-09 16:07:50 EDT, robot@humboldt1.com writes: << PS: I asked BEUTHET to give the KW articles to SemiGod. Reality check: My "life" is too screwed up right now, so, the articles would be safer with someone else. BTW: my Email to BEUTHET@wl.aecl.ca bounced. Are you out there? Please contact me! >> Thank you for doing such. As soon as they're scanned, I'll shoot a link at all of you. Now all I need to do is find this guy :) Later! EJRSemiGod # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tg97 Subject: (kw) Tibetian Press Accreditation Date: 10 May 1998 00:34:16 -0300 I need some help to get information about the press accreditation for Tibetian Freedom Concert. If anybody knows how to contact them, please mail me off list. Thanks Nicolau PS - BTW, what happened to Media Center? When it will work again? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) 2 Extra SF tickets Date: 10 May 1998 00:36:42 -0700 I can't believe nobody wants a pair of Warfield tickets. I can't wait any longer for "Andreas" to re-materialize. Andreas, if you're out there, PLEASE contact me!! You never Emailed me back after we exchanged a couple of messages. I never had the chance to send you my address, so you never sent any money, but, I tried to be nice and buy the tickets you requested anyway- now I must sell them. Yo, Keith Johnson in Seattle- you want 'em?? Come on down! I need a buyer- no more "maybes". On the UP side, I called my ex-roomate in L.A, and she says she's in better health these days so I CAN stay with her after all. I just hope she STAYS well! -(knock on wood.)- We go back a long ways. So, I wont be needing a hotel room in Hollywood. That makes my finances a lot easier, but, I'm not out of the weeds yet. I still gotta sell these 2 KW tickets so I can buy a PLANE ticket from SF to LA and back. -(About $100 total.)- Greyhound can wait til June 1st. -(About $60 round trip Eureka/SF)- I'm even willing to sell my old Blasteroids arcade game for $150 if I can get the sound to WERK again- but, I'm NOT selling my SYNTHS!! I could never get back what I paid for 'em anyway. I'm TRYing to be optimistic, but, reality keeps closing in on me. Bills. bills, bills.... ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace -(Yippee! My link is FIXED now! ....sort of.)- +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: abzug Subject: (kw) contrast and compare Date: 10 May 1998 19:44:21 +0100 kraftwerk "metropolis" = bloodhound gang "asleep at the wheel"? discuss... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Karl Bartos interview Date: 10 May 1998 17:53:24 +0200 >Bartos in the March 1998 issue of Sound on Sound. >the Technopop version of Electric Cafe was much better and they should have >released it instead. mmmh... if it's the same Technopop as the one that has circulated as bootleg I really don't think so... but after all I just listened to a tape of it so maybe quality could not have been as the, let's call it, "original". I gave q uick look at the interview, but I have not understand one thing: Bartos cited the Technopop boot, if I'm not wrong, but did he listened to it, and did he said if it is "original"? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) general admission Date: 10 May 1998 17:58:27 +0200 could someone explain me what does it mean that a ticket is for general admission? mail me privately if you prefer. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) Fw: KINETIK update - UK Tour report Date: 10 May 1998 16:34:39 -0700 Looky what I found on alt.musik.synthpop! ps: I think I got my 2 extra tickets sold! :]]]] -----Original Message----- Newsgroups: alt.music.synthpop >Paul Wilkinson is a name which is well known to many of you for his work >in the field of KRAFTWERK fandom. He has very thoughtfully written a >detailed account of KINETIK's recent UK MICRO TOUR! > >Stop by and take a look, > >-- >Kinetik > >http://www.lifehouse.force9.co.uk/Kinetik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) general admission Date: 10 May 1998 22:32:59 EDT On Sun, 10 May 1998 17:58:27 +0200 lbo writes: > >could someone explain me what does it mean that a ticket is for >general admission? mail me privately if you prefer. It means that rather than having a seat reserved specifically for the person who has the ticket, the doors are opened, and you pick out your own seat or standing room from what is available. This can create mas confusion and chaos, depending on the audience. I'm sure a lot of people here in the USA remember several years ago when The Who was playing...Cincinatti, I think. 11 people were trampled to death in a stampede of everybody wanting the best seats in the house. Of course, not all audiences are like that, and I suspect most Kraftwerk fans would be a lot more reserved. Bill Dobiesz N8TLC "Huggy Bear" n8tlc@juno.com FidoNet 1:120/650 ITCnet 85:871/851 LifestylesNet 66:1810/101 ICQ UIN 7298861 np: The Doors - Love Me Two Times _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) general admission/tickets sold Date: 11 May 1998 01:42:20 -0700 Bill Dobiesz sez: -(explaining "general admission", paraphrased/snipped)- >11 people were trampled to death [at a WHO concert]< >I suspect most Kraftwerk fans would be a lot more reserved.< -(Not to make light of the WHO tragedy, but....)- KW Fans "reserved"? Don't count on it!*HeeHee*! Well- I sold my 2 extra tickets today to a nice guy in Menlo Park. -(Hi, Kevin Collins! Welcome to the List! I hope you're subscribed by now. :] YAY!)- We had a fun time chatting on the phone, and he described the Warfield as having an open dance floor directly in front of the stage, with "club style" tables & chairs farther back. So, we can do the Bionic Boogie if body:space ratio permits. He said the main floor tickets are sold out, but, there are still some balcony seats available. -(reserved seating. steeply sloped rows.)- We also talked about the possibility of audience partici,,,,PAtion during Pocket Calculator. They didn't let anybody push buttons at any of their gigs in Europa last year, so, I'm not getting my hopes up that they'll allow us unruly Amerikaners to jam along. ps: How come several KW websites are down all of a sudden? Could Ralf & Florian be snipping wires again or something? -(old story: they were in the US in 80 or 81, got sick of MuZAK everywhere, so, they cut the speaker wires. >:] evil grin)- Sorry, guys, we can't help being in love with your MusiK. No copyright infringement intended. Clever ploy, letting us Fans do all of your advertising for you. Ah-HA.... makes you wonder- like, Paramount tried to kill all the TREK sites. They failed. TREKKIES prevailed. Imagine the lawsuit: Hutter & Schneider vs. KRAFTWERK Fandom. Jeez. we're doomed. The ROBOTS have turned on us!*WAH-H-H*! No- no- no.... curse these nightmares! uh-oh! Boeing 737s in the news: passengers stranded on Mother's Day. ONE jet has faulty wiring and they ALL get grounded. cripes. I hope they solve this problem before June! ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: resin@tuna.net (darren) Subject: (kw) who built and maintains the robots? Date: 11 May 1998 05:13:07 +0600 >> also- i was thrilled to read the a-100 poem, although i could not hear it. >> realaudio anyone? > >I replaced the mp3 file with a real audio version. > > http://www.world.net/~adamr > >Adam very cool- thanks adam! still no one has any info on the robots? darren http://www.tuna.net/resin email:resin@tuna.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred Becker Subject: (kw) Autobahn Motors Date: 11 May 1998 02:39:48 -0700 Fred: On Highway 101 [SF Bay Area] there is a huge metallic building on the east side called Autobahn Motors! Kraftwerk should stop by for an endorsement: "We buy all our cars at Autobahn Motors." Robot: *HEEHEEHEEHEE* KooL! "Wir kaufen unsere Autos von AUTOBAHN Motors." -(Vocoder, ofcourse!)- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: Re: (kw) Klaus Dinger News Date: 11 May 1998 22:07:45 +0900 At 9 May 1998 20:40:19 +0000, Klaus Zaepke wrote: >>From the new Captain Trip Records mailorder catalogue: > >CTCD-100/101 La! NEU? / Cha Cha 2000 - Live in Tokyo (2-CD) $ 32.00 > >Description: >"'Cha Cha 2000' is 1 h 45 min for one song! with big colour poster >cover." I received the catalogue also, in Japanese customer version. ;-) It says it is recorded live at "On Air West" (Shibuya Tokyo), on 3/Dec/1996. BTW I was at the hall also. They played only five or six songs, for FOUR hours. ;-) (Now you see why the stage was that lengthy...?? ;-) ) Regards, Hiroshi. ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Skinner" Subject: (kw) Content-Type: text/plain Date: 11 May 1998 06:59:33 PDT Hello new list. I just purchased tickets for the New York show. I was interested to see how many other people were going to the show from my area. I will come from West Virginia, stop by Philly, and then go to NYC. PETER ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: joarg@hsr.no (Joar Grimstvedt) Subject: (kw) Chase sounds Date: 11 May 1998 18:16:16 +0200 The single Chase by Trance Atlantic Air Waves contains a remix by Nalin & Kane. This version employs several of the typical Kraftwerk sounds; like the percussive sounds of Electric Cafe and that sweet, light melody lead from the Computer Welt songs. An excerpt can be heard through http://www.five.no/cretu/etc/TAAW/records/chase.html. Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt, joarg@hsr.no /// WWW: Enigma/Sandra http://www.five.no/joarg/ /// Eschew obfuscation. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Autobahn Motors Date: 11 May 1998 09:32:25 -0700 >Fred: >On Highway 101 [SF Bay Area] there is a huge metallic building on the east side called Autobahn Motors! Kraftwerk should stop by for an endorsement: "We buy all our cars at Autobahn Motors."< >Robot: >*HEEHEEHEEHEE* KooL! >"Wir kaufen unsere Autos von AUTOBAHN Motors." >-(Vocoder, ofcourse!)- OOPS. I think it's "bei" not "von". Prepositionen.... ich vergesse. Yeah- AUTOBAHN Motors. We have "Auto Von Humboldt" auto parts up here. ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EZwerk Subject: Re: (kw) Chase sounds Date: 11 May 1998 18:46:24 +0000 Is this single any good? I love the original Girogio Moroder version! Ernie Joar Grimstvedt wrote: > > The single Chase by Trance Atlantic Air Waves contains a remix by Nalin > & Kane. This version employs several of the typical Kraftwerk sounds; like > the percussive sounds of Electric Cafe and that sweet, light melody lead > from the Computer Welt songs. > > An excerpt can be heard through > http://www.five.no/cretu/etc/TAAW/records/chase.html. > > Joar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "FRANK X. CORDERO" Subject: (kw) Greetings Fellow KW Robots! Date: 11 May 1998 23:03:41 -0700 Hello, my name is DJFXC and I am a new member. I will be attending the Hollywood Palladium concert on June 8. Is anyone wearing black pants, red shirts, black tie, light kabuki makeup? Discuss...... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Collins Subject: Re: (kw) general admission/tickets sold Date: 11 May 1998 23:02:27 -0700 >Well- I sold my 2 extra tickets today to a nice guy in Menlo >Park. -(Hi, Kevin Collins! Welcome to the List! I hope you're >subscribed by now. :] YAY!)- That would be me! (I'm on the digest list so I get it all in one fell swoop.) >We had a fun time chatting on the phone, >and he described the Warfield as having an open dance floor directly >in front of the stage, with "club style" tables & chairs farther back. >So, we can do the Bionic Boogie if body:space ratio permits. He said >the main floor tickets are sold out, but, there are still some balcony >seats available. -(reserved seating. steeply sloped rows.)- Yes- I've seen several shows at the Warfield and the floor has always been the best bet. I've only been in the balcony once (for Suzanne Vega), but y'know, being free on the floor to wander is the best! In any event, the Warfield is a great place to see a show- it's certainly the best theater in the Bay Area! (pssst.. BTW- the mailman had no mail for me today so he didn't bother checking my mailbox to see if there was any outgoing mail.. [y'know, yer $$ for the tix] even though the envelope was sticking out like a sore thumb and it can be clearly seen from the sidewalk 10 feet from my door... lazy I guess.. :-p ... so I drove it down to the main Palo Alto post office this evening after I got home from werk.) c-ya! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Pitt Subject: (kw) Komputer -World of Tomorrow Date: 12 May 1998 07:35:00 +0100 This review taken from Channel 4 Planet Sound Teletext...... Komputer- The World Of Tomorrow - review by Stephen 'Acorn Electron' Eastwood. This British techno-pop outfit are just a Kraftwerk pastiche - no more, no less. The German synth pioneers have hassled the interlopers in the past over their more identikit 'tributes' but then there's a certain beauty in this stunt. If any band should mass-produce the goods while they dither in the studio, then Komputer, whose titles include Motopia, More Automation and Bill Gates (ooh, do stop it! You're blowing our circuits!) could be the very virtua-popsters. rating 3.5 out of 5 ...... Mike. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) KRAFTWERK KomiX, I & II Date: 12 May 1998 01:26:35 -0700 I just received this tidbit of info from 'kjm' regarding the KW KomiX: >This week's music comix was on Marianne Faithful, so they are off Kraftwerk.< Okay. So, there's just the 2 parts. ThanX, kjm! The scans are on the KRAFTWERK Czech pages now: Part I: www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/6482/Kwerk.jpg Part II: www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/6482/Kwerk2.jpg I still have them both in case anyone needs the jpgs sent by Email. ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) general admission/tickets sold/meeting info Date: 12 May 1998 01:31:39 -0700 Kevin Collins sez: >the Warfield is a great place to see a show- it's certainly the best theater in the Bay Area!< EXcellent! ThanX for the details! Welcome to the List! :]]]] >(pssst.. BTW- the mailman had no mail for me today so he didn't bother checking my mailbox to see if there was any outgoing mail.. [y'know, yer $$ for the tix] -SNIP- so I drove it down to the main Palo Alto post office this evening after I got home from werk.)< Gosh- you went to all trouble just for little ol' me? Gee, all I had to do was walk around the corner to the Loleta Post Office and take care of business at the counter. -(Would you believe they don't do home delivery in this cow-town? That's why I get SnailMail @ Mon's house in Eureka.)- Our goods will cross in the Mail simultaneously. Anyway, a bunch of us are planning to meet in line EARLY in front of the Warfield around 4pm if not sooner so we can get a good spot inside. Come join us! We'd also like to go somewhere after the show. As for the Hollywood Palladium, I'd suggest the same idea of meeting in line early, like, no later than 4pm, and keeping each other company before the doors open at 6:30 or 7pm. Konzert at 8. City ordinance dictates thet the Palladium MUST be totally closed by 11pm, so, we can't linger there after afterwards. BUT- there's a KRAFTWERK Party at Kontrol FaKtory, 836 N. Highland, after the Konzert! BE there! If you want to sign up for the KRAFTWERK KONVOY '98 Konvoy for ANY of the venues, please check it out. -(#Kraftwerk IRC Page)- ThanX Jules Seifert! :] http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm -(Scroll down to "STOP PRESS!" & click on Konvoy link.)- ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Olf Ranthiz Subject: (kw) cd's 4 sale Date: 12 May 1998 04:35:52 -0700 I've got the following CD's for sale: Kraftwerk: ZKM 2CD (karlsruhe 18.10.1997) $40 CD1: intro nummern computerwelt it's more fun to compute/heimcomputer die menschmaschine tour de france autobahn aetherwellen zkm song(new song) radioaktivitaet lichthof(new song) CD2: tee/abzug/metall auf metall taschenrechner die roboter numweltverschnutzung(new song == luton song) musique non stop +bonus tokyo 9/7/91 computerliebe neonlicht showroom dummies Kraftwerk: Lichtgestalten 2CD (Linz 16.10.1997) $40 CD1: intro nummern computerwelt it's more fun to compute/heimcomputer die menschmaschine tour de france autobahn aetherwellen zkm song(new song) radioaktivitaet lichthof(new song) CD2: tee/abzug/metall auf metall taschenrechner die roboter numweltverschnutzung(new song == luton song) musique non stop +bonus Technopop(demo version) Tour de Francd(arrive mix) Sex Object(razormaidmix) Kraftwerk: Lebendige Menschen $20 tracks: (Tribal Gathering'97) Numbers Computerworld Radioactivity TEE/Abzug/Metall auf Metall Pocketcalculator/Dentaku The Robots (Ludwigsburg(1991) Das Model Tour de France Musique non stop + shipping e-mail me if interested privatly, do not bother the list please. -- take care tf ************************************************************* "Drinking and smoking are bad for the health" -Charles Bukowski # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) Content-Type: text/plain Date: 12 May 1998 00:46:59 EDT On Mon, 11 May 1998 06:59:33 PDT "Peter Skinner" writes: > I will come from West Virginia, stop by Philly, and then go to I'm not going to the NYC show, but I am going to the Detroit show... Where in West Virginia are you from? I love West Virginia (almost heaven), and I have adopted it as a second "home state" (I am a Michigan native). I have really enjoyed Beckley, Oak Hill, etc...white water rafting down the lower New and one time when the New was too trecherous (even the nuts in the kayaks wouldn't run it) we went on the lower Gauley. Actually that whole path in...Nitro, Charleston...it's beautiful out there. Bill Dobiesz N8TLC "Huggy Bear" n8tlc@juno.com FidoNet 1:120/650 ITCnet 85:871/851 LifestylesNet 66:1810/101 ICQ UIN 7298861 np: The Doors - Alabama Song (Whisky Bar) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PRODUKT 01 Subject: (kw) (off topic) F A R K I! Date: 12 May 1998 12:19:20 EDT Please E-mail me i need some info from u # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MikeLove1 Subject: (kw) Hello Info Wanted Date: 12 May 1998 12:46:11 EDT Does anyone have any info on the KW koncert in Dc? ML # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Time Pie (MHO) Date: 12 May 1998 18:07:03 +0000 I finally gave in and bought a copy of Yamo's 'Time Pie' and really enjoyed it. I hadn't been that impressed by the short samples form the album that I'd heard on the WWW, but the complete album was good clean fun. Mr Fluer obviously still has things he feels moved to make music about. Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Songalia" Subject: (kw) Cabaret Voltaire Date: 12 May 1998 10:25:02 -0700 >Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 01:13:04 EDT >From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) >Subject: (kw) Cabaret Voltaire > >Just wondering if anyone knows anything about Cabaret Voltaire? Along with Kraftwerk and Tangerine Dream, Cabaret Voltaire is one of my favorite electronic groups of all time. They greatly influenced the Electronic Techno/Industrial/Ambient Music genre as we know it today and were early pioneers of using sound samples in their compositions. Their sound has varied greatly over the years, and not all of their albums sound like "Drinking Gasoline". Cabaret Voltaire first started in the industrial town of Sheffield, England in the early 70's as a trio and played short "pop" songs with electronically-treated conventional instruments such as bass, saxophone, and organ. Their songs were very abstract and had a harsh minimalist sound to them with the emphasis on electronic sound manipulation and noise, rather than lyrical content. They had a hit single with the punk/new wave crowd called "Nag, Nag, Nag". Some of their albums from this period ("Red Mecca", "Johnny Yesno") also helped pioneer industrial ambient noise, which some of their peers at the time, such as Throbbing Gristle, Can, and Einsturzende Neubauten, delved into more deeply. When they pared down to a duo (Richard H. Kirk & Stephen Mallinder) in the early 80's, they started using drum machines more extensively and their sound became more refined and dance/beat oriented, with lots of taped voice samples as integral, rhythmic parts of the songs. This is my favorite period, and this is the time that they released "Drinking Gasoline". My favorite album is "The Covenant, the Sword, and the Arm of the Lord." The swirling music collages on this album are dense and the beats are complex. I never get tired of hearing it because I always discover something new on it. I'd highly recommend this album if you like "Drinking Gasoline, which was the progression from "The Covenant...". Another two releases from this period to look for are "The Crackdown" and "Microphonies", which preceded "The Covenant...". "Microphonies" featured the hit single "Sensoria", in which they did an early pioneering music video for. The video featured very early quick editing music video techniques and a dizzying moving camera on a crane, which U2 copied in one of their own videos years later. Out of their many albums, I think that these albums had the most influence on the Industrial and Techno music genre as we hear it today. CV were also one of the first groups to use sampling extensively as a basis for their compositions, also influencing some sample-heavy hip-hop groups such as Public Enemy. The mid-80's were a very creative time for them. CV went through a pretty weak commercially-oriented period during the late 80's, though, with the release of some very Detroit-influenced house music. Stay away from, "Groovy, Laid Back & Nasty", which is their very worst album (IMO), which featured Mallinder singing conventional house music with female backing singers. Their other instrumental albums from this period also maintained some of the abstract qualities of their earlier material, however, it became much more repetitious and derivative, rather than groundbreaking. Over the years, Mallinder gradually became less involved with CV and moved to Australia while Kirk kept the Cabaret Voltaire banner flying with some excellent almost-completely instrumental releases in the early 90's. There is a trio of CV that is a must get, if you are a fan of today's Ambient/Intelligent Dance Music (IDM). It is "Plasticity", "International Language" and "The Conversation". These are excellent albums with "The Conversation" a two-disc tour de force, with one composition lasting nearly one hour. These three very psychedelic sounding releases firmly re-established CV on the the electronic music map. Richard Kirk has also released many other albums under his own name and other aliases (most notably Sandoz). He very rarely plays live and seems to be content producing music out of his Western Works home studio in England. Do a Yahoo search on Cabaret Voltaire and there are a few sites that are fairly comprehensive. Like Kraftwerk, Cabaret Voltaire has a very loyal cult following, who truly acknowledge their influence on today's modern music. Remember that CV's music varies greatly from album to album and you may not like everything you hear, but there is usually something in each release that is always interesting, and occasionally groundbreaking. Good luck! Sean Songalia P.S. Got my Kraftwerk tickets for the Hollywood Palladium! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "FRANK X. CORDERO" Subject: (kw) History of VODER/1930's Vocoder! Date: 12 May 1998 12:15:11 -0700 This may be of interest to you vocoderphiles. Audio files of the earliest known Vocoder known as "Voder". Kraftwerk should pay homage to this invention in some way before Komputer does. http://ptolemy.eecs.berkely.edu/~eal/audio/voder.html Just completed three pages devoted to Kraftwerk: http://members.tripod.com/~DJFRANKX/kraft.html "Stare into the TV screen, don't know what to do...I need a rendevous..." Frank X # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CADBOT Subject: Re: (kw) Hello Info Wanted Date: 12 May 1998 12:11:57 -0700 You mean the one that's sold out? MikeLove1 wrote: > Does anyone have any info on the KW koncert in Dc? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Johnson Subject: (kw) LA tickets for sale. Date: 12 May 1998 11:23:55 -0700 Greeting fellow KW-Fans. Hedging my bets against getting San Fran tickets to see our heroes, I purchased a pair of tickets to the Hollywood Palladium show on Monday June 8. I then succeeded in getting San Francisco tickets, so my girlfriend and I will be making a mini-vacation of it. So now I have a pair of Hollywood Palladium show tickets to sell! The price for the pair (general admission) is $65.00 (my cost) which will include certified mail to the sender. The tickets are numbered 16 and 17 for all the good it does (but they are lower than Ms. Robots, so perhaps they are more "collectible" :)) If anyone here is interested, please contact me at kj@gmnameplate.com As long as we're at it, in other news.... Personal to Ms. 'Bot - Thanks for sending the KW comic part two. ATTENTION all San Fran concert goers - For your info, seats numbers split in the center, evens on one side and odds on the other. So seats 2-4-6-8 are together, as are 1-3-5-7. I worried about that for a bit. Second San Fran note - The balcony rows are double lettered AA, BB, CC, and so on. So row EE (the row I'm in) is only the fifth row of the balcony (and not the 31st!). And in a final note - I (again) called the Warfield to check this out. She KNEW I was calling about the KW show. We have been very interested in calling the business office for info, and to her ear we have been mostly male. Very few females have called asking for info. We come in third in terms of requests, behind a rumored Rolling Stones show (which never happened once the Internet got ahold if it), and a Yes show. Additionally, I mentioned the possible predominance of black pants/red shirt/black tie as a concert fashion statement, and she said she'd mention it at an upcoming staff meeting for a possible staff fashion statement! A venue staff full of Man-Machine-ites!!! Too funny! -Keith J. kj@gmnameplate.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: abzug Subject: (kw) new kraftwerk book? Date: 12 May 1998 19:52:59 +0100 issue 70 of the excellent (but perpetually late in delivering to subscribers - er hum!) magazine Future Music claims that a new book on Kraftwerk is in the works. Entitled 'Kraftwerk: from Dusseldorf to the future (with love)', the book will published by Ebury Press this summer. No other details were given, however it is worth noting that the Royal Festival Hall October Festival rumour was repeated in the same article. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Stagg Subject: (kw) Wolfgang Fluer in "Future Music" Date: 12 May 1998 14:43:16 -0400 There's a 6-page feature on Wolfgang Fluer & Yamo in the June 98 issue of= the UK music-tech magazine "Future Music". There's some recollections abo= ut Kraftwerk and some of their old gear, especially those early drum pads, a= nd the ill-fated light-beam trigger apparatus. Not quite as essential as tha= t recent Karl Bartos article in "Sound On Sound" maybe, but pretty intersti= ng nonetheless - and it also includes a few photos I've never seen before (from Woflgang's "personal collection", apparently). What's more, the cover mounted CD also features an extensive set of sampl= es from Yamo's "Mosquito". The idea is the readers can create their own remixes of the track and send them into the magazine, who will then forwa= rd the best ones to Wolfgang. He says he has "something special" lined up fo= r the winner. Even if you don't enter the competion, it's worth having just= for the drum sounds alone I'd say. Even more: earlier in the magazine there's a news feature on Kraftwerk's upcoming tour. It also mentions a new KW book to be published by Ebury Press this summer entitled "Kraftwerk: From Duesseldorf To The Future (Wi= th Love)". STAGGMAN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: abzug Subject: (kw) Yamo Date: 12 May 1998 20:00:01 +0100 As Klaus reported last week, there's a great Wolfgang Fluer interview in issue 70 of Future Music magazine. In addtion to the interview, Wolfgang has given a bunch of samples from the Yamo song Mosquito for inclusion on the free CD. Musicians are invited to produce their own version of the song utilising as many or as few of the source samples as they choose, and then send the results into the magazine. Wolfgang himself will judge the entires and give the winner a special prize. Cool, eh? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark Subject: (kw) NY ticket sales a bit slow Date: 12 May 1998 19:12:40 -0400 capacity sold 1st balcony 587 587 2nd balcony 592 450 floor 2500 200 Anyone else have info on other cities? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ God is my favorite fictional character. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EJRSemiGod Subject: Re: (kw) NY ticket sales a bit slow Date: 12 May 1998 19:30:26 EDT In a message dated 98-05-12 19:15:42 EDT, fisha@thecia.net writes: << 1st balcony 587 587 2nd balcony 592 450 floor 2500 200 >> WOW. Why on *EARTH* are people buying balcony instead of FLOOR?! Beside the fact that balcony might be cheaper? EJRDuck! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "FRANK X. CORDERO" Subject: (kw) Correct Voder Address Date: 12 May 1998 17:39:59 -0700 The correct vocoder/voder address is...... http://ptolemy.eecs.berkeley.edu/~eal/audio/voder.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) NY ticket sales a bit slow Date: 12 May 1998 20:49:52 +0500 On 13-May-98, EJRSemiGod wrote: >WOW. Why on *EARTH* are people buying balcony instead of FLOOR?! Beside the >fact that balcony might be cheaper? The balcony seats were $35, and I think the floor 'seats' were $30... I bought balcony seats because of a bum knee; after attending the Numan concert at the Irving Plaza and being in pain for a good part of the show I decided to sit the next one out. :-) Maybe people bought balcony seats because they expected a big crowd on the floor? What I expect is that a lot of people are going to show up at the last minute, like they did at the Numan show; apparently some of the folks on the guest list had to be turned away! ------ Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) NY ticket sales a bit slow Date: 12 May 1998 21:27:18 EJRDuck wrote: ><< 1st balcony 587 587 > 2nd balcony 592 450 > floor 2500 200 > >> > >WOW. Why on *EARTH* are people buying balcony instead of FLOOR?! Beside the >fact that balcony might be cheaper? For the record, the balcony seats are actually $5.00 more than the standing room floor tickets. As to why more people are buying balcony than floor, I'd speculate that Kraftwerk give the type of live performance that many people would rather sit to appreciate since there is not much in the way of action or movement on stage. They are an example of a band whose concerts may be enjoyed equally well from afar as near without sacrificing any of the conceptualism in the process, and often adding a tad more comfort to sweeten the deal. =) Having said all that, I purchased floor tickets. ;) See you there! -- Scott M. Barnhill nebulous@erols.com #Kraftwerk, IRC's DALnet "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric.Schader@gambro.com Subject: (kw) Sad news for GB. Date: 13 May 1998 09:10:28 +0200 Hi all! I just heard this on the radio. According to the Swedish music program "Musikjournalen", KW has canceled their planned concert in England and the only opportunity to see them in Europe this summer will be Roskilde. Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: valere Subject: Re: (kw) Yamo Date: 13 May 1998 10:15:11 +0200 abzug wrote: > > As Klaus reported last week, there's a great Wolfgang Fluer interview in > issue 70 of Future Music magazine. does it exist online ? -- Thomas VALERE valere@wiley.co.uk -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Craig Land" Subject: (kw) New Items Date: 13 May 1998 09:06:45 +0100 Hi there one and all, I have just received a nice little package from Hotstuff! The Kraft01 Instore Sampler 12 containing four KW tracks and best of all, the 1997 tour t-shirt. Now I am happy as I will have a new KW t-shirt to wear at the LA Palladium gig in June. Watch out America, the Big Chap from the UK is getting ready to fly out on May 23! Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM Subject: Re: (kw) Sad news for GB. Date: 13 May 1998 04:39:29 EDT Well we'll have to wait and see here in the UK. I think the second half of the year is being left suspiciously clear, so we might well see an announcement of further dates in Europe. Don't forget, they are scheduled to perform at Sonar98 in Barcelona on 20.6.98. Perhaps the Machines Festival cancellation (November, London) means that they envisage a European leg to the tour some time between July - December. There is that rumour about the Royal Festival Hall.... Any news on the album yet ? Any news on whether any of the gigs will be (officially) recorded or filmed ? taschenrechner --------------- find salvation by the application of the mamboscope to your genitalia. --------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) NY ticket sales a bit slow Date: 13 May 1998 09:48:19 +0100 mark wrote: > > capacity sold > > 1st balcony 587 587 > 2nd balcony 592 450 > floor 2500 200 > > Anyone else have info on other cities? dunno about other european venues, but the sales figures would defiantly be the other way round in the UK, i.e. the floor sells out almost immediately. Who wants to see the band from a seat, at a distance when you can enjoy the gig from close quarters? -- ciao, Jules Seifert - ICQ #7421804 The #Kraftwerk IRC Channel:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) NY ticket sales a bit slow Date: 13 May 1998 09:52:42 +0100 Scott M. Barnhill wrote: > For the record, the balcony seats are actually $5.00 more than > the standing room floor tickets. As to why more people are buying balcony > than floor, I'd speculate that Kraftwerk give the type of live performance > that many people would rather sit to appreciate since there is not much > in the way of action or movement on stage. hehe, nice one Scott, you ain't seen em yet have you? > They are an example of a band > whose concerts may be enjoyed equally well from afar as near without > sacrificing any of the conceptualism in the process, and often adding a > tad more comfort to sweeten the deal. =) > Having said all that, I purchased floor tickets. ;) See you > there! Yowza! Well, this concept about kraftwerk being a gentle gig astounds me! I know for certain that every KW gig I've ever seen has been seriously rowdy, mainly cos ppl go wild when they appear, and i'd compare some of their gigs to the likes of Nitzer Ebb and 242 for crowd action, especially TG97. The only folks who DON'T show any action are the boyz themselves :-) -- ciao, Jules Seifert - ICQ #7421804 The Kraftwerk IRC Channel:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Roskilde Poster Date: 13 May 1998 11:15:10 +0200 (DFT) A scan from the official Roskilde Festival poster is now available at http://www.uradio.ku.dk/musik/roskilde98/poster.html Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) Sad news for GB. Date: 13 May 1998 11:18:36 +0100 MERSEYCHAM wrote: > > Perhaps the Machines Festival cancellation (November, London) means that they > envisage a European leg to the tour some time between July - December. There > is that rumour about the Royal Festival Hall.... > The machines festival IS to be at the Royal Festival Hall, that's why UK fans are now becoming concerned. -- ciao, Jules Seifert - ICQ #7421804 The Kraftwerk IRC Channel:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) New Items Date: 13 May 1998 11:19:43 +0100 Craig Land wrote: > > Watch out America, the Big Chap from the UK is getting ready > to fly out on May 23! > Knock 'em bandy Craig! ;-) -- ciao, Jules Seifert - ICQ #7421804 The Kraftwerk IRC Channel:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) NY ticket sales a bit slow Date: 13 May 1998 07:07:01 Jules Seifert wrote: >> that many people would rather sit to appreciate since there is not much >> in the way of action or movement on stage. > >hehe, nice one Scott, you ain't seen em yet have you? Haven't seen them in person yet no, but of course I've seen enough video of their live performances to know that the most action which eminates from on-stage would be coming from either the video screens or from one overly eager Henning Schmitz. =) >Well, this concept about kraftwerk being a gentle gig astounds me! I >know for certain that every KW gig I've ever seen has been seriously >rowdy, mainly cos ppl go wild when they appear, and i'd compare some of >their gigs to the likes of Nitzer Ebb and 242 for crowd action, >especially TG97. >The only folks who DON'T show any action are the boyz themselves :-) That's precisely what I was saying, laddie. There is not much in the way of action or movement *on-stage*, and thus, I can see the appeal of balcony seating for many fans who wish to appreciate the complete concert ambience in comfort from a position overlooking the entire stage rather than standing up obscured next to 300 other spastic sweaty chaps for two hours. (Of course, there are undoubtedly those who'd pay for this very audience experience in and of itself, but that'd be another story.) hehehe -- Scott M. Barnhill nebulous@erols.com #Kraftwerk, IRC's DALnet "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "\" Shop smart. Shop 'S' Mart. \"" Subject: (kw) Cabaret Voltaire Date: 13 May 1998 08:37:21 -0400 CV are one of my favorite bands. I saw them live several years ago at The Ritz in New York City. The show was: Consolidated Cabaret Voltaire Einsturzende Neubauten (sp.) Thi was after they had gotten into their house music phase. I wanted to hear "Sensoria", "Do Right", etc. I was disappointed. As posted previously, their sound varies GREATLY from disc to disc. Richard H. Kirk's solo stuff is great. FYI - In "Ferris Bueller's Day Off", Ferris has a Microphonies poster on his bedroom wall.(!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM Subject: Re: (kw) Sad news for GB. Date: 13 May 1998 09:07:30 EDT Ooops, must have fallen asleep somewhere along the line ! So if MACHINES is cancelled that still doesn't mean there's going to be no action in Europa. Either they've gone completely bonkers (has anyone spoken to Ralf recently ?) or they will be here... This is where they are from. This is what they are about. It's not really about DX7s, is it ? It's about heritage, about the history of the future seen from a decidedly 'first world' perspective. Kraftwerk are the most backward looking band I know, and when they turn their heads they'll be looking at Europe. Endlessly. Calm yourselves. They'll be here. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gans allein" Subject: Re: (kw) Sad news for GB. Date: 13 May 1998 06:11:41 PDT >Don't forget, they are scheduled to perform at Sonar98 in >Barcelona on 20.6.98. > According to http://www.tickets.de/artists/art4.html and http://www.sonar.es/s98/spain/infopage/frset.htm Kraftwerk perform at Sonar on June 18, not June 20. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Martin Halldin" Subject: Re: (kw) Yamo Date: 13 May 1998 01:13:43 PDT abzug wrote: >As Klaus reported last week, there's a great Wolfgang Fluer interview in >issue 70 of Future Music magazine. In addtion to the interview, Wolfgang has >given a bunch of samples from the Yamo song Mosquito for inclusion on the >free CD. Musicians are invited to produce their own version of the song >utilising as many or as few of the source samples as they choose, and then >send the results into the magazine. Wolfgang himself will judge the entires >and give the winner a special prize. Cool, eh? Yea, mr Flur's definitely got it going. I hope he doesn't fuck up as mr Bartos did. Flur still seems a bit more genuine Kraftwerkish I mean. /Martin Min hemsida: http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/8382/intro.htm "I give you my affection and i give you my time, try to get a connection on the telephone line" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) In Wien sitzen wir... Date: 13 May 1998 17:06:15 +0200 ...im Nachtcafe - I put a picture of the coffeehouse, which Kraftwerk visited after their gigs in vienna, 1981 and 1991, and which you can also see in the "TEE"-video, onto my website (sorry, explanation only in german). Check this cafe out, if you are in vienna! http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/kraftwerk/nachtcafe.html Greets from vienna, Georgie -- *********************** Georg Jajus (Vienna) ********************** * Internet: http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * * Mail: a9401326@unet.univie.ac.at or Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at * ************** "In Wien sitzen wir im Nachtcafe..." *************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) KW Fashion Statement Date: 13 May 1998 10:38:15 -0700 Darn- I can't find the post I wanted to respond to regarding the staff -(at Warfield?)- wearing red shirts & black ties & grey slacks, so I can't quote it, but, that would be neat if a bunch of people wore 'em! Too bad the boys themselves don't wear the M.M uniform anymore. :[ Now it's just basic black shirts, no ties, black pants & shoes, and the TRON outfits for the new tunes. -(Someone else mentioned black slacks with red shirts? nope. It's GREY slacks with red shirt & black tie, just like the album cover....)- As I said before, check out thrift stores for KooL threadz! Man, I gotta come up with a decent outfit that wont look rediculous on me. I no longer look like a Mannequin, so, the M.M outfit doesn't look good on me anymore. [[[ I wish I had pictures of me from the good old days. Tourists took pics, ofcourse, but, I'd never see 'em. *grrrr*. My 15 minutes of fame- wasted. ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "abzug" Subject: sweaty spastics (was: Re: (kw) NY ticket sales a bit slow) Date: 13 May 1998 19:23:14 +0100 scott did write: >standing up obscured next to 300 other spastic sweaty chaps for >two hours. (Of course, there are undoubtedly those who'd pay for this very >audience experience in and of itself, but that'd be another story.) hehehe cor, yeah! :) tribal was great for that, i can tell you, however just prey you don't get some twat next to you shouting 'autobahn autobahn' all the way through (mate, you'll never know how close you came...) i wonder how many of us listies walked past each other that day without even knowing... (for the record, we were the scruffy guys who sat in the trans-europe tent smoking skunk all afternoon) get up the front near florian if you can - he's the one to watch for 'action' - hehe i'm off to watch chelsea thrash stuttgard now... cheers! jon alsbury i want to die in my sleep like my grandfather ... not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Klaus Dinger / Kreidler Date: 13 May 1998 20:44:47 +0200 (DFT) Klaus Dinger is mentioned in the "Greetings" section of the credits for the new Kreidler CD "Appearance and the Park". The May issue of the German freebie magazie TenDance contains an interview with Kreidler's / la! NEU?'s Andreas Reihse, in which he talks a bit about Klaus Dinger's lawsuit vs. Metronome concerning the rights for the old NEU! albums. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Sonar festival time schedule Date: 13 May 1998 21:00:11 +0200 (DFT) Excerpt from the time schedule for the Sonar festival in Barcelona=20 (http://www.sonar.es/s98/spain/infopage/frset.htm): 18. SonarClub 23.30 dj Fran=E7ois Kevorkian 00.30 live Kraftwerk 02.30 dj Fran=E7ois Kevorkian 03.40 dj Dj Hell # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jseifert@technologist.com (Jules Seifert) Subject: Re: (kw) NY ticket sales a bit slow Date: 13 May 1998 20:00:57 GMT "Scott M. Barnhill" wrote: >I can see the appeal >of balcony seating for many fans who wish to appreciate the complete >concert ambience in comfort from a position overlooking the entire stage >rather than standing up obscured next to 300 other spastic sweaty chaps = for >two hours. (Of course, there are undoubtedly those who'd pay for this = very >audience experience in and of itself, but that'd be another story.) = hehehe hehehe, that would be me then......;-) ciao, Jules Seifert The Voice of Energy!! #Kraftwerk IRC homepage:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ No:- 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jseifert@technologist.com (Jules Seifert) Subject: Re: sweaty spastics (was: Re: (kw) NY ticket sales a bit slow) Date: 13 May 1998 20:03:29 GMT "abzug" aka Jono, who seems to have an identity crisis ;-) wrote: >tribal was great for that, i can tell you, however just prey you don't = get >some twat next to you shouting 'autobahn autobahn' all the way through >(mate, you'll never know how close you came...) hey, that was me! :-P >i wonder how many of us listies walked past each other that day without = even >knowing... (for the record, we were the scruffy guys who sat in the >trans-europe tent smoking skunk all afternoon) hehhe, so you were one of that scruffy lot eh? Hmmm, there were about 10,000 of em, me included! ciao, Jules Seifert The Voice of Energy!! #Kraftwerk IRC homepage:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ No:- 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TPURE Subject: Re: (kw) Cabaret Voltaire Date: 13 May 1998 18:05:22 EDT In a message dated 5/13/98 12:57:59 PM, you wrote: <> I was also at that show & share your disappointment (I believe the last time they played NYC was around the time Sensoria broke). After the Cabs mercifully left the stage, we figured Einsturzende Neubauten would make up for it, but they came out with ACOUSTIC GUITARS! We ran out right there, halfway through the first song. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jerry Withers" Subject: RE: (kw) New OFFICIAL KW live cd! Date: 13 May 1998 10:08:54 -0500 How about a little more info on this "Official CD" -----Original Message----- >I have just ordered an Ofiicial Kraftwerk record. It´s a radio concert. official and recorded by radio? mmmh... :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MC3P0 Subject: Re: (kw) KW Fashion Statement Date: 13 May 1998 21:32:33 -0700 > ROBOT wrote: > Darn- I can't find the post I wanted to respond to regarding the > staff -(at Warfield?)- wearing red shirts & black ties & grey slacks, > so I can't quote it, but, that would be neat if a bunch of people wore > 'em! Too bad the boys themselves don't wear the M.M uniform anymore. My Dearest RoBoT, I was under the impression that the color scheme that Kraftwerk were going with for their "final" tour was caution jumpsuit orange? If I recall correctly, I gleaned that info from this list sometime ago. Me and my cronies are all going to color our hair as such and wear either silver, green, black or orange outfits. Confusion is nothing new on this list... Black and orange are very complimentary - this is probably what we will go with. That is, unless everyone else is going with the MM look... Ah, well. Now, if only Kraftwerk would make an appearance at Burning Man this year my life would be complete... oh, and they'd simply have to perform "It's More Fun To Compute" in the jazzy style they did in earlier years. Um, and I want to go have a mocha with them and discuss the current state of India and Pakistan. It's alookin' like Khali is acomin'... Incidentally, KalkiCo is our camp theme so I'm completely prepared for instigating the new regeme once India and friends finally do fall. We'll march on over in our bright orange hair, silver radiation suits wielding the KalkiCo insignia and recruiting the huddled, mutated masses that are left over to do our bidding. I'd make them wear reciever arrays, geiger counters and such, creating music out of radioactive fallout. Now that would be kool(tm)! Ralph forgive me, I know Florian would... Bill -- __________ _______________________________________ | o%o [_]| /The Sci-Fi Disco Fembots From Hell(tm)/\ |__________| / http://www.geocities.com/paris/6937 / / /ooo/ /ooo/\ /______________________________________/ / /___/////// /~\_________Analog is my bitch.__________\/ \_________\/ "It's klinkity-klankity disco goodness!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) A sad day indeed.... (off-topic) Date: 14 May 1998 02:02:29 -0400 Yesterday (Tuesday), the master of the theremin, Clara Rockmore, passed away. Rest in peace. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Free Tibet Festival tickets Date: 14 May 1998 15:54:14 +0200 (DFT) Quoted from www.mtv.com: 5.13.98 10:00 EDT Remaining Tickets For Tibetan Freedom Concert To Be Sold Online If you haven't been able to score tickets to this year's Tibetan Freedom Concert yet, your next (and last) chance will come this Friday, when a total of 4,000 tickets will go on sale online. Concert organizers plan to sell 2,000 tickets for each show at the Tibetan Freedom Concert's website at www.tibet98.com. Interested fans may want to head over to the site and get on an advance waiting list and receive notification of exactly when the tickets will be put up for sale. As we previously reported (see "Wallflowers Added To Tibetan Freedom Concert..."), this year's Tibetan Freedom Concert will feature performances by artists including the Beastie Boys, the Dave Matthews Band, R.E.M. , the Verve, Radiohead, Wyclef Jean, Pearl Jam and the Wallflowers. Some 110,000 tickets for the shows recently sold out in just a few hours. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Josef Gabler Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk mentioned by Herbert Groenemeye Date: 14 May 1998 16:37:55 +0200 In message ID on 20.04.98,=20 Georg Jajus wrote:=20 =20 >At the end of the interview... german singer Herbert Groenemeyer=20 mentioned Falco=20 > and Kraftwerk as the only two german=20 >interpreters, who had worldwide sucess and acknowledgement with=20 >"deutscher Sprache".=20 =20 =B0=3D=B0 Na, wenn=B4s der Herbert sagt, muss es ja so sein (gewesen).=20 =B0=3D=B0 Ist momentan auch wieder mal sehr schick, sich mit Kraftwerk=20 im Zitat zu schm=FCcken.=20 =B0=3D=B0 Vor allem wo sein letztes Album ja auch so ein bisschen um=20 diverse Ecken schielt...=20 =20 =B0=3D=B0 Regards=20 ----josef=20 =20 =B0=3D=B0 Frage: Welche Austrians planen, zu einem der n=E4chsten=20 Konzerte zu "gehen"?=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 _________________In _Wien_Sitzen_Wir_Im_Nachtcafe________________ =20 _____________________Direktverbindung_T.E.E._____________________ =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 sent via an evaluation copy of BulkRate (unregistered).=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) ROBOT Off-Line?!! NOOO!!!! Date: 14 May 1998 01:03:35 -0700 *^&^%#$$%#%&%^* This Aptiva computer is having trouble booting up. My husband says he's going to take it in to Radio Shack tomorrow, and they'll probably have to send it back to Hayward -(for the 3rd or 4th time in 2 years)- for a virus check before it REALLY crashes and loses ALL files. -(I hope hubby does a back-up tonight. SAVE my K-philes & Email!!)- Why NOW?? The Konzert is less than 4 weeks away! Last time we were off-line for 5-6 weeks!*AAAARRRRGGGHHH*! Johnny likes to torture me, so, he might be bluffing, but, if he really IS going to send the computer away for repairs, I have to let everybody know. I might be able to get a couple of hours on InterNet access once or twice a week to check out KW Mail List Archives & a few WebSites and MAYBE access my Email. I'll try to keep up somehow. God, this sucks! :[[[[[[[[ I can not lose contact with Fellow KW Fans! I still intend to make it to SF & LA any way I can. Please look for me in line- that way y'all can find each other as well. I'm trying to be optimistic in the face of total adversity. ROBOT aka Melanie Jean Mayfield 805 "M" Street Eureka, CA 95501-1947 Union Square Plaza Hotel, 432 Geary, June 6th & 7th. So far it's just Christoph Marquardt & I. There's room for 2 more if someone needs a flop.... ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Martin Halldin" Subject: Re: (kw) Klaus Dinger / Kreidler Date: 14 May 1998 05:10:48 PDT Klaus Zaepke wrote: >Klaus Dinger is mentioned in the "Greetings" section of the credits for >the new Kreidler CD "Appearance and the Park". Wasn't he mentioned on the relase before that too (Weekend)? Great record btw. /Martin Min hemsida: http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/8382/intro.htm "I give you my affection and i give you my time, try to get a connection on the telephone line" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Martin Halldin" Subject: Re: (kw) Yamo Date: 14 May 1998 05:35:19 PDT Merseycham wrote: >I think that's a little small-minded. Bartos left Kraftwerk because being 'Kraftwerkish' turned into being a drag. His contribution to the overall=0Asound of Kraftwerk was vital (eg. the year of reading DX7 manuals but perhaps=0Ahis useful life as a Kraftwerker had come to an end - in his view. After all,=0Athe 5 years of navel-gazing that produced The Mix must have been sheer hell=0Afor someone who still felt any creative energy. > >Have you ever stood in a studio and been told not to touch any of the but= >tons.=0AIt's a nightmare - you want to play. > >Both Bartos and Fl=FCr have come out of Kraftwerk intact. There's no question of=0A"fucking up". They've managed to produce something new. Let us wait and see=0Awhether Ralf, Florian, Fritz and Henning can match them. > I'm sorry if I didn't make myself clear on that point. First of all: I still pay my respect to Mr. Bartos. The First Elektric Music album for example, is really good in many ways, and I haven't heard the follow up so I'll say nothing about its musical qualities. But I still think that Bartos sometimes has been lacking in judgement, when f ex producing the new record with Mobile Homes, which is a quite boring Swedish synthpop band. He has not been able to make them any more interesting except for turning ppls attention towards them just because they are produced by an ex-Kraftwerk member. So in that way I think he's just selling his name for nothing. Second: I fully understand why Bartos left Kraftwerk. These "5 years of navel-gazing" as you so apposite put it must be very annoying if you feel like producing something right away. But I don't think he should rush away with just anything just because he's now free to do whatever he feels like, which seems to be the fact with f ex Mobile Homes. Greetings from /Martin ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SR Records Subject: Re: (kw) NY ticket sales a bit slow Date: 14 May 1998 11:32:54 EDT In a message dated 5/13/98 8:57:48 AM, you wrote: <> That's strange - from the video footage that I've seen- Ralf, of all people, is the one dancing about like a madman on "Pocket Calculator" . . . . . . . .(someone would have to define madman - he's certainly no john lydon or anything :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: (kw) Cabaret Voltaire Date: 14 May 1998 12:58:25 EDT On Wed, 13 May 1998 18:05:22 EDT TPURE writes: > > >In a message dated 5/13/98 12:57:59 PM, you wrote: > ><at >The Ritz in New York City. The show was: Consolidated, >Cabaret Voltaire, >Einsturzende Neubauten (sp.) >This was after they had gotten into their house music phase. I wanted >to >hear "Sensoria", "Do Right", etc. I was disappointed.>> > >I was also at that show & share your disappointment (I believe the >last time >they played NYC was around the time Sensoria broke). After the Cabs >mercifully >left the stage, we figured Einsturzende Neubauten would make up for >it, but >they came out with ACOUSTIC GUITARS! We ran out right there, halfway >through >the first song. ...saw them 5/9/85 at the old ritz in nyc...in fact, i believe that was the last show at that place...nice gig...tape available... tom w np: em:t 0098 - natural language _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RoBoten Subject: (kw) Updated homepage Date: 14 May 1998 22:55:05 +0200 konzert2.html links to tourmap (non 3d ;) at konzert3.html //RoBoten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) ROBOT Off-Line?!! NOOO!!!! Date: 14 May 1998 12:23:02 -0700 *ARGH* okay, hubby decided to hold off on sending the Computer back- but, it COULD crash without warning at any time. -(Jules said he'd send me a "virus Scanner"!*WOW*! Thanks Jules! Massive files, but- send away! Vielen Dank!)- If I DO disappear from CyberSpace, please keep in KontaKt! I'll be easy to spot in line in front of the Warfield and again at the Palladium. PLEASE, God, let me MAKE it to SF & LA! I'm holding Christoph's & JBV's Konzert tickets! I HAVE to be there! Yo, JBV? Where ARE you?? Still in Bombay?? What flight will you be on, which airport, etc? I need to hear from you! IF I'm not off-line.... you know where I'll be: Union Square Plaza Hotel, 432 Geary, June 6th & 7th. If you need to find me and/or each other, just ask for ROBOT -(Mayfield)-. ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jorge Aguayo Subject: (kw) (KW) I Need more Hollywood Palladium Info Date: 14 May 1998 17:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Does anybody know if Kraftwerk is the only group playing at the Palladium on 06/08/98? Are they going to have an opening group before them? Another friend who is going with me to L.A. is asking me that. I hope somebody could answer this. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) I Need more Hollywood Palladium Info Date: 14 May 1998 18:41:12 -0700 Jorge Aguayo asks: >Does anybody know if Kraftwerk is the only group playing at the Palladium on 06/08/98?< There have been a few rumors about "special guests", but, I highly doubt it. KRAFTWERK stands alone, except at big multi-band festivals like Tribal Gathering and Free Tibet. [In case the Computer DOES crash, I need to say this] YEAH! I got my plane tickets today- Fly United! $78 round trip SFO to Burbank and back. -(plus tax & agent fees = $91. Not bad.)- lv SFO 11:35am 8 Jun, ar BUR 12:42pm. -(Greyhound, Fortuna to SF; about $55 round trip.)- I'm barely scraping by, but, I think I'm actually gonna make it! Ofcourse I wont believe it till I'm standing in front of the stage gazing up at Florian....*sigh*.... I hope they let us push their buttons on Pockets Calculator! :]]]] *WHEE-EE* ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "FRANK X. CORDERO" Subject: (kw) Theramin Home Page Date: 14 May 1998 22:23:32 -0700 Konnect to the Theramin Home Page: http://psych.fullerton.edu/duke_bagrash/computer.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: (kw) Re-issues from Japan Date: 15 May 1998 15:51:03 +0900 Hi all, Probably only to those keen collectors. Japan's "Toshiba EMI" annouces several re-issues of existing Kraftwerk albums. To be released on 27/May: Kraftwerk Autobahn TOCP-50578 2548 yen Kraftwerk Radioactivity TOCP-50579 1784 yen Kraftwerk Electric Cafe TOCP-50580 2548 yen Kraftwerk The Mix TOCP-50581 2548 yen All prices excludes 5% VAT. I'm sure only the price, release date and catalog # are new... ;-) (Honestly I haven't confirmed it yet, but there's no announcement for their contents. They only say these are re-issues.) FYI a few more albums are already available from Toshiba EMI: Kraftwerk Trans Europe Express TOCP-3086 1784 yen Kraftwerk The Man Machine TOCP-3087 1784 yen Kraftwerk Computer World TOCP-8974 2548 yen As mentioned before, Computer World has "Dentaku", which is Japanese lyrics version of "Pocket Calculator", as bonus "eighth" track. It's the only difference. Regards, Hiroshi. ---- Hiroshi MURATA (NTT Software Labs./Musashino Tokyo Japan) (work) (private) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Z-TV Date: 15 May 1998 12:09:39 +0200 (DFT) I've heard that there was a Roskilde Festival preview on Swedish Z-TV two days ago, including a couple of minutes on Kraftwerk. Has anyone watched this feature? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RoBoten Subject: Re: (kw) Z-TV Date: 15 May 1998 13:37:17 +0200 (MET DST) On Fri, 15 May 1998, Klaus Zaepke wrote: > > I've heard that there was a Roskilde Festival preview on Swedish Z-TV two > days ago, including a couple of minutes on Kraftwerk. > Has anyone watched this feature? There was no couple of minutes. it was about 20 seconds from the luton clip (hmm. seen that one for a lot of times now) and a comment - bla bla "we're proud to have kw at the festival bla bla.. (spokesman of roskilde festival) //RoBoten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hans" Subject: (kw) Another ZKM Bootleg Date: 15 May 1998 14:08:35 +0200 Hi there, 'New' ZKM Bootleg: Computersymphonies - Computersinfonien It seems to be a simple copy of the 'return...' Boot. Bonustracks are: Radioactivity ( W.Orbit remix ) / The Robots (Ultimix - (from Tour de trance)) / MNS single (printed as Tour de France 2nd etape) / TEE single edit bye johann # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred Becker Subject: (kw) 2CD Sets--What Are They? Date: 15 May 1998 09:50:07 -0700 Midnight Records [http://www.midnightrecords.com/] lists these for sale. What are they? KRAFTWERK-Radio Activity-(March 11 UK 2CD Set Details TBA) 26.99 KRAFTWERK-TransEurope Express-(March 11 UK 2CD Set Details TBA) 26.99 Fred # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Uffe Silverup Subject: SV: (kw) 2CD Sets--What Are They? Date: 15 May 1998 20:07:59 +0200 > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Fr=E5n: Fred Becker [SMTP:mach25@inow.com] > Skickat: den 15 maj 1998 18:50 > Till: kraftwerk@xmission.com > =C4mne: (kw) 2CD Sets--What Are They? >=20 >=20 > Midnight Records [http://www.midnightrecords.com/] lists these for = sale. > What are they? >=20 > KRAFTWERK-Radio Activity-(March 11 UK 2CD Set Details TBA) 26.99 > KRAFTWERK-TransEurope Express-(March 11 UK 2CD Set Details TBA) 26.99 Hi! Well, probably the EMI reissues. Remember that Man Machine was (is, will be) a 2CD set. /Uffe=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John B. Morgan" Subject: (kw) Concert Classic Date: 15 May 1998 14:21:38 -0400 (EDT) Did that "Concert Classic" CD, which was supposed to have material from a 1975 US concert, ever get released? ******************************************************************************* John Morgan "The heroes of the epics of India are not Student Services, individuals, but whole reels of individual- The University of Michigan ities in a series of incarnations." LS&A Honors Program --Hermann Hesse, http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jbmorgan/ STEPPENWOLF including The Colin Wilson Page # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: (kw) Updates at www.kraftwerk.com Date: 15 May 1998 21:45:23 +0200 The second page after Konzert is a completely new 2D map of the earth with the conzerts marked, and a line connecting them. Things are happening... /Joakim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: (kw) Updates at www.kraftwerk.com Date: 15 May 1998 21:59:31 +0200 Hmm, something is strange. I took a look at the HTLM-source, and in my opinion there should be som kind of text, presumable the details of the tour, below the picture. Is it only my browser, or do anybody else experiense the same? /Joakim PS. A collegue of mine told me something strange as well. A week ago or so he tried to download the Quicktime movie, but got sound of a another new song, but no picture or video. He cancelled the download due to lack of time. The day after he wanted to show me his discovery, but now the original video was back. At the same time derrien@mail.club-internet.fr mentioned some new sounds at the site, but I never found any. Any ideas? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: computermusic@post.cz Subject: (kw) Updates at www.kraftwerk.com Date: 15 May 1998 22:13:45 +0200 Hi! > Hmm, something is strange. I took a look at the HTLM-source, and in my > opinion there should be som kind of text, presumable the details of the > tour, below the picture. Is it only my browser, or do anybody else > experiense the same? > > /Joakim Try this URL :http://www.kraftwerk.com/java/tour.txt BTW html source: Bye Computer Music alias Metropolis from Prague Czech Republic My E-Mail: computermusic@post.cz My Pages: Kraftwerk CZ http://www.music.cz/kapely/kraftwerk Computer Music http://www.mamedia.cz/home/COMPUTER_MUSIC.html IRC channel #kraftwerk ( 18:00 - 24:00 CET) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: (kw) Updates at www.kraftwerk.com Date: 15 May 1998 22:19:00 +0200 I should perhaps have waited to send my first post, because of new findings: The konzert2-page has dropped TERMINE from the heading, which now only is 1998. Another thing: The map shows all known cities, but there is also one white square in Germany. By the way, the spinning globe is still on the server, but you can't reach it without typing the URL youself - http://www.kraftwerk.com/konzert.html . The marked cities are not accurate, Spain is missing. /Joakim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) Updates at www.kraftwerk.com Date: 15 May 1998 22:27:52 +0200 Great, I can read the tourdates, but still I can't see them in the applet at konsert3.html. Most important (to me anyhow ;}>) is that Roskilde is still there... /Joakim PS. They've made one small mistake. The \java catalogue is browsable... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: (kw) Before anybody else... Date: 15 May 1998 22:55:40 +0200 I thought it's better me pointing out the obvious than somebody else... The white square in Germany is of course D=FC=DFeldorf and the red = lines are the flights Kraftwerk will use to get around the globe. There is no connection back to Germany from Roskilde, so I guess they'll stay in Denmark! /Joakim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: (kw) wireframe suit tour poster image. Date: 15 May 1998 16:10:37 Since it hasn't been mentioned here since KW began using the 4-man wireframe image on their website and tour posters last year, I wonder if anyone else has noticed that this image bears more than a passing resemblence to the image on the back of the inside sleeve of the 'Electric Cafe' LP (back page of CD booklet). Perhaps that's where the idea for the wireframe suits came from in the first place! No doubt the movie 'Tron' would fit right in the Kraftwerkian scheme of things, but I'd rather think that they were influenced by none other than themselves. =) -- Scott M. Barnhill nebulous@erols.com #Kraftwerk, IRC's DALnet "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Before anybody else... Date: 15 May 1998 15:40:11 -0700 Joakim Svensson sez: >The white square in Germany is of course Düßeldorf and the red lines are the flights Kraftwerk will use to get around the globe. There is no connection back to Germany from Roskilde, so I guess they'll stay in Denmark!< Lucky Danes! :] The question is: when flying from Tokyo to San Fransisco, will they change planes in Honolulu? I wonder which day they'll arrive. -(Japan is a day ahead.)- Gee, SFO or Oakland? Speculation, anyone? I'd love to just 'happen' to be at the same gate when they land. Better yet, I'd LOVE to be on the same PLANE with them to Burbank the next morning, if they choose to bypass LAX, that is! :]]]] I'd REALLY love to be their Flight Attendant: "Coffee, tea, or ME?" ;] ROBOWINKY 23 more days til the Warfield gig! I'm so exited, I can't even COUNT! -(weeks, days, hours, minutes, seconds, microsecs, millisecs, pico/atto/femto, ad infinitem....)- *SIGH* ps: ThanX, Jules, for the Virus Scan! It WERKs!! ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Liethen Subject: (kw) Tour TV Commecial Date: 15 May 1998 18:09:41 -0600 Ahhhh! About 10 minutes ago I saw a tv commecial for the upcomming Kraftwerk concert in Chicago. It showed some Pre-Mix era concert footage (ho-hum) I'll try to capture it on video tape if I see it again. BTW, Some have noticed the the Meda Center has been down for 2-3 weeks. It has taken me longer than I thought to fix the security hole. Next week I'll have it online, with some new stuff. ___________________________________________ Peter Liethen --- pliethen@execpc.com PeteNet Studio --- petenet.dragonfire.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joel Provost Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com Date: 15 May 1998 20:00:39 -0400 Here is a url to a page that's not linked. http://www.kraftwerk.com/termine.html It looks like an earlier version of their konzert tour. Washington DC is missing. Only two dates for Tokyo. I found it by just trying different url's that made sense. e.g. (www.kraftwerk.com/autobahn.html) etc. The termine.html actually brought something back. Here's another interesting one... www.kraftwerk.com/gruen/karte1.gif It's a world map with Detroit, Chicago & Tokyo missing. My guess is that these are outtakes, never intended for our eyes. Hacking can be so much fun. Hope I didn't upset anyone at Kling Klang :-( The Konzert3 page gives me an error "error:java.lang.NoClassDefFounfError:ISO8859_8" Perhaps its supposed to do something. Cool, See ya in Chicago & Detroit! Joel www.shadow.net/~jprovost # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Wolfgang Fluer in "Future Music" Date: 16 May 1998 02:42:44 +0200 >There's a 6-page feature on Wolfgang Fluer & Yamo in the June 98 issue of >the UK music-tech magazine "Future Music". There's some recollections about >nonetheless - and it also includes a few photos I've never seen before would someone provide to put them on line, pls? :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) site on history of electronic music Date: 16 May 1998 02:45:08 +0200 Ispotted an interesting site about history of electronic music. they take it al large, giving electronic music the age of 120. now Idon't remember the exact url, it was www.obsolete.com/120something, but if you go to www.obsolete.com you'll find iteasily # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "FRANK X. CORDERO" Subject: (kw) KW webpage aktivity!! Date: 15 May 1998 18:25:49 -0700 Yes, Joakim! KRAFTWERK IS CALLING US. Everyone, check out http://www.kraftwerk.com Check out the scrolling red l.e.d. concert roster. KRAFTWERK IS CALLING US...... KRAFTWERK IS CALLING US..... "Stare into the TV screen........" Thanks Joakim! There is "aktivity". About 7 weeks ago, I also ran into the globe...it still wasn't finished.....then it dissappeared. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EJRSemiGod Subject: (kw) Ralf and Florian 8track for sale! (not by me!) Date: 16 May 1998 01:04:28 EDT Just surfing through Ebay today, and lo and behold - Description KRAFTWERK - Ralf & Florian (Vertigo) 8 Track Tape, Sealed, with Original Slip- Cover. Huh. Cool. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=13905617 Check it out! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "abzug" Subject: Re: (kw) wireframe suit tour poster image. Date: 16 May 1998 09:58:33 +0100 >Since it hasn't been mentioned here since KW began using the >4-man wireframe image on their website and tour posters last year, I >wonder if anyone else has noticed that this image bears more than a >passing resemblence to the image on the back of the inside sleeve of >the 'Electric Cafe' LP (back page of CD booklet). Perhaps that's >where the idea for the wireframe suits came from in the first place! hmmm, without wishing to be rude, i would have thought the resembelence was obvious to *everyone* - maybe that's why nobody has mentioned it specifically! a case of stating the obvious, no? :-) jon alsbury i want to die in my sleep like my grandfather ... not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "abzug" Subject: Re: (kw) Wolfgang Fluer in "Future Music" Date: 16 May 1998 09:49:21 +0100 >would someone provide to put them on line, pls? :-) i'll do it on Monday and post URL to the list jon alsbury i want to die in my sleep like my grandfather ... not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) wireframe suit tour poster image. Date: 16 May 1998 08:48:10 "abzug" wrote: >hmmm, without wishing to be rude, i would have thought the resembelence was >obvious to *everyone* - maybe that's why nobody has mentioned it >specifically! >a case of stating the obvious, no? :-) Damn Jon, you sure do know how to shoot down the fun from an idea, don't ya? hehehe ;-) 28 days till Kraftwerk in New York City! Countdown till doomsday. -- Scott M. Barnhill nebulous@erols.com #Kraftwerk, IRC's DALnet "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rom@totk.com Subject: (kw) 6/10 in Chicago Date: 16 May 1998 11:16:41 -0500 Anyone have any idea what Kraftwerk will be playing? What do you think they will open with? ROMBOT IRC EFnet #kraftwerk -- ============::~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) 6/10 in Chicago Date: 16 May 1998 19:19:13 +0000 rom@totk.com wrote: > > Anyone have any idea what Kraftwerk will be playing? What do you think > they will open with? Strangers in the night ? jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com Date: 16 May 1998 19:20:37 +0000 Joel Provost wrote: > > Here is a url to a page that's not linked. > http://www.kraftwerk.com/termine.html > It looks like an earlier version of their konzert tour. > Washington DC is missing. Only two dates for Tokyo. > I found it by just trying different url's that made sense. > e.g. (www.kraftwerk.com/autobahn.html) etc. > The termine.html actually brought something back. > > My guess is that these are outtakes, never intended for our eyes. > Hacking can be so much fun. Hope I didn't upset anyone at Kling Klang :-( Too bad we can't do the same kind of hacking with their albums, trying to find unreleased rough mixes just by typing some track adress (like Kometenmelodie.alt.wav) ... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "abzug" Subject: Re: (kw) 6/10 in Chicago Date: 16 May 1998 18:45:41 +0100 >Anyone have any idea what Kraftwerk will be playing? What do you think >they will open with? a little bird tells me it may go something like this... Numbers Computerworld It's More Fun To Compute The Man-Machine Tour De France Autobahn Airwaves ? ZKM Song 1 ? Radioaktivitat ZKM Song 2 ? Trans Europe Express The Robots Pocket Calculator Luton Song ? Musique Non Stop but then again, who knows. they may play an entirely new set... jon alsbury i want to die in my sleep like my grandfather ... not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) site on history of electronic music Date: 16 May 1998 18:51:02 +0500 On 16-May-98, lbo wrote: >Ispotted an interesting site about history of electronic music. they take >it al large, giving electronic music the age of 120. That's a great site-- I love that 1800s electronic keyboard. It looks like a wooden Minimoog! And the site has audio samples of the Voder, the Trautonium, etc. >now Idon't remember the exact url, it was www.obsolete.com/120something, >but if you go to www.obsolete.com you'll find iteasily It's www.obsolete.com/120_years. :-) -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) RAVE til DAWN!! Date: 16 May 1998 16:30:16 -0700 In celebration of KRAFTWERK: Jeez, I'm so hyper, I can't handle it! I actually RAVED til DAWN last night/this morning. Stone Lagoon Beach- North of Trinidad, CA. It rained a little bit, but, only while the sound-guy was driving me up there, and then it only sprinkled once or twice. Not a bad turn-out. About 40 people. We tore down at 6:30am, THEN it POURED! -(good timing.)- It was FUN, but, my legs are sore. -(I finally got home at 8, took a bath, went to bed at 9am and just now woke up at 3pm.)- The DJs played a bit of KRAFTWERK for me -(I brought a few albums. These are the same Planet Trance guys. But, the club where they used to spin regularly has been closed for some time now, so, they do special parties every now and then.)-. Anyway, this was a great way to celebrating my upcoming trip to see KRAFTWERK *LIVE* in 3 weeks -*SCREAM*- so, I needed to burn off some energy. [Repsonding to a few other posts] KRAFTWERK - Ralf & Florian (Vertigo) 8 Track Tape: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=13905617 EE-chi-WA-wa! You know how much they WANT for it? -(checking....)- Only $4.50?!! Oh, it's an "Auction" thing. That's the current minimum bid. Well, shit, I'LL take it for $5 bucks if no one outbids me! HA! :]]]] Too bad I can't afford to bid any more than that. I'm sacrificing ALL luxuries such as decent food, and possibly utilities, etc, just so I can go see KW. Ah, the things we do for love.... hm-m, familiar song line/title. I forget who did it. eh. whatever. WAY oldie. Wireframe TRON suits? Yeah, it's been mentioned on the List how well the suits blend with their Musique Non-Stop video image. I can't wait to see with my own eyes how they look on stage! I'm also looking forward to reading the Wolfgang Flur interview in Future Music. I want the next YAMO album! ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joel Provost Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com Date: 16 May 1998 22:46:15 -0400 > Oh, here is another one. > > www.kraftwerk.com/kraftwerk.html > > It's a text version of the menu, but it doesn't stay > long before it brings up the regular menu. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5 Subject: Re: (kw) 6/10 in Chicago Date: 17 May 1998 01:12:15 EDT In a message dated 98-05-16 13:18:19 EDT, jbv.silences@wanadoo.fr writes: << > Anyone have any idea what Kraftwerk will be playing? What do you think > they will open with? Strangers in the night ? >> Since it is Chicago, how about My Kind of Town? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: (kw) NYC show Date: 17 May 1998 01:52:14 +0500 I wouldn't worry too much about the fact that the balcony seats sold out faster than the floor 'seats'-- the show has had almost no advertising (apart from the Internet and word-of-mouth). The balcony seats are almost sold out, and by the time KW gets to NYC they will (hopefully) have built up a lot of good publicity. People will be dying to get in at the last minute, and I will have bought my tickets a month in advance. The fools! The blind, blind fools! AH-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!! Ahem. Excuse me. -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: **************** Subject: RE: (kw) 6/10 in Chicago Date: 17 May 1998 14:33:55 -0700 jon alsbury wrote: >a little bird tells me it may go something like this... Numbers......etc..... Musique Non Stop but then again, who knows. they may play an entirely new set...< Ummmmm......maybe. Perhaps you should have said they may shuffle the = order of their tapes.....as these days all they seem to do on stage is = stand there and let the machines deliver. =20 =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "\" Shop smart. Shop 'S' Mart. \"" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk ads for NYC show Date: 17 May 1998 11:45:49 -0400 There have ads for several weeks running in the Village Voice for the Kraftwerk at Hammerstein Ballroom. (FYI C.G.) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk on swedish TV Date: 17 May 1998 18:38:40 +0200 The last part of the series Rock&Pop had several referenser to Kraftwerk, and a few, brief scenes showing Autobahn beeing performed. It looked like a live event, but no audience was visible. I'd guess it was recorded 1976 or perhaps 1977, based on their looks. I've never seen this recording before and it's quite different from the other Autobahn recordings I've seen. One fun part was a good close-up of the drum-pads used by Karl and Wolfgang. They were obviously early prototypes, with cabels visible, and everything placed in simple boxes. One thing amazed me. All four on stage, but no neon-signs with their names! I thought they've been used for all performances since the R&F-days. It might be that Karl was so new to the group at the time of the recording, and the sign simply wasn't ready. Onybody else who has seen the recording I'm refering to? Somebody who even has a video-copy of the whole song or performance? /Joakim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mars.sjostrand@stockholm.mail.telia.com Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk on swedish TV Date: 17 May 1998 19:35:09 +0200 Svensson, Joakim wrote: >=20 > One thing amazed me. All four on stage, but no neon-signs with their > names! I thought they've been used for all performances since the > R&F-days. It might be that Karl was so new to the group at the time of > the recording, and the sign simply wasn't ready. >=20 > Onybody else who has seen the recording I'm refering to? Somebody who > even has a video-copy of the whole song or performance? >=20 Well, I saw it also, and the neon-signs where all there (Karl=B4s included). I dont think the clip they took were from a concert, it looked more to me like it was taken from a television apperence. M=E5ns. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk ads for NYC show Date: 17 May 1998 15:27:26 +0500 On 17-May-98, \" Shop smart. Shop 'S' Mart. \" wrote: >There have ads for several weeks running in the Village Voice >for the Kraftwerk at Hammerstein Ballroom. (FYI C.G.) Thanks for the info! I don't read the Voice, so I didn't see the ads. :-) In any case, I'm glad to hear that the show is being advertised. I expect things to pick up once KW actually get here! -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk ads for NYC show Date: 17 May 1998 17:59:48 EDT On Sun, 17 May 1998 15:27:26 +0500 Christopher Gross writes: > >On 17-May-98, \" Shop smart. Shop 'S' Mart. \" wrote: > >>There have ads for several weeks running in the Village Voice > >>for the Kraftwerk at Hammerstein Ballroom. (FYI C.G.) > >Thanks for the info! I don't read the Voice, so I didn't see the ads. >:-) In >any case, I'm glad to hear that the show is being advertised. I expect >things >to pick up once KW actually get here! > funny thing is, its the same illustration and formatting and fonts that were used for the aborted 91 tour...go figure... tom w np: orb - live _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk on swedish TV Date: 18 May 1998 02:21:41 +0200 Den 17-Maj-98 A.D. ristade Svensson, Joakim f=F6ljande runor ang=E5ende "= (kw) Kraftwerk on swedish TV": =20 > The last part of the series Rock&Pop had several referenser to > Kraftwerk, and a few, brief scenes showing Autobahn beeing performed. It (The series' original name was "Dancing in the streets") I watched the whole series and I was hoping for some KW content about two episodes ago... I suppose the producers (BBC?) didn't think they were important enough in modern popular music history to get more than 3-4 minutes in the last episode of a 10x1 hour series... Well we got almost an hour of rapping instead *sigh*. > One thing amazed me. All four on stage, but no neon-signs with their > names! I thought they've been used for all performances since the ?? I clearly saw the neon signs. Or maybe I clearly imagined them... :) --=20 E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Liethen Subject: (kw) Media Center now has MPEG video Date: 17 May 1998 23:15:42 -0600 Hello, After spending a little bit too much time finding and fixing a security hole on my web server, I have set the Kraftwer Media Center web page back up. In addition to the RealVideo files, there will now be a MPEG video special that will be switcher every 2 or 3 weeks. There, now the other 4% of the computing worlds can view the music videos. For people new to the list in the past month, the Kraftwerk Media Center is a web page that has Kraftwerk TV clips and music videos. The URS is: http://petenet.dragonfire.net/kw ___________________________________________ Peter Liethen --- pliethen@execpc.com PeteNet Studio --- petenet.dragonfire.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "depeche" <_depeche_@email.msn.com> Subject: (kw) Paraphernalia Date: 17 May 1998 23:04:45 -0700 Hey! With the oncoming Concerts can someone please give reports on K-Merchandise (If any) that is available @ these shows? See you in SF (you that will be attending, of course!) Andrew _Depeche_@msn.com http://www.thegrid.net/jtworld/depeche/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric.Schader@gambro.com Subject: RE: (kw) Kraftwerk on swedish TV Date: 18 May 1998 08:28:19 +0200 > Den 17-Maj-98 A.D. ristade Svensson, Joakim f=F6ljande runor = ang=E5ende > "(kw) > Kraftwerk on swedish TV": > =20 > > The last part of the series Rock&Pop had several referenser to > > Kraftwerk, and a few, brief scenes showing Autobahn beeing > performed. > It >=20 > (The series' original name was "Dancing in the streets") > I watched the whole series and I was hoping for some KW content about > two > episodes ago... I suppose the producers (BBC?) didn't think they were > important enough in modern popular music history to get more than 3-4 > minutes in the last episode of a 10x1 hour series... Well we got > almost > an hour of rapping instead *sigh*. >=20 And if it was the same program that I came into in the middle of it, = you could hear Hooky from New Order say that KW was so impressed by Blue Monday that they booked themselves in New Orders studio to do a rip-off of it (Blue Monday, not the studio he he). And when the program ended with house music there was no references towards KW. Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred Becker Subject: (kw) Gary Numan Tour Dates Date: 18 May 1998 00:33:17 -0700 Gary Numan gave a great show in SF tonight. Now I'm ready for Kraftwerk. Here are the remaining Gary Numan U.S. tour dates: May 19. Los Angeles CA. The Palace May 20. Tempe AZ. Bash On Ash May 22. Dallas TX. The Galaxy May 23. Houston TX. Numbers May 24. Baton Rouge LA. Luna May 26. Orlando FL. The Club at Firestone May 27. West Palm Beach FL. Carefree Theatre May 28. St. Petersburg FL. State Theatre May 29. Jacksonville FL. The Milk Bar May 30. Atlanta GA. Masquerade May 31. Charlotte NC. Baja Club More info at http://www.numan.co.uk/ Fred # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Gary Numan Tour Dates Date: 18 May 1998 01:39:14 -0700 Fred Becker brags: >Gary Numan gave a great show in SF tonight. Now I'm ready for Kraftwerk.< *grrrr* If only I lived in the City. Okay- you lucky L.Aliens, listen up: Gary Numan is supposedly going to be at Kontrol Faktory, 836 N. Highland, TONIGHT, before his Palace gig tomorrow. -(Did I read the dates right? He's performing on the 19th, Tuesday? Kontrol Faktory is Monday nights only.)- Well, IF he DOES show up, don't mob him all at once, eh? He was asked to DJ some tunes, but, he just wants to chill. SH-H-H! It's kind of a secret. I guess there's a much greater chance of Gary N. showing up at KF than Ralf & Florian. Yes, they ARE invited to the klub after their Palladium performance on June 8, but, don't hold your breath. reality check: Does anybody wanna buy my ENSONIQ SQ so I can go see my boys? $200 + shipping. Built-in Sequencer.*whimper*. I don't WANT to part with ANY of my beloved SYNTHS, but, I have no choice. I MUST see KRAFTWERK, and it would be nice to still have utilities, etc, when I get home. It would also be nice to be able to pay my share for the room I booked in SF. -(We could still use 1 or 2 more people to split expenses and lighten the load.)- I'd rather sell my BLASTEROIDS arcade game, but, it's TOO HEAVY!! I'd sell my shortwave radios, but, some goddam speakfreak already ripped 'em off along with all of hubby's parts & equipment- hence no more odd jobs, no more income, further in debt. God, I hate this! After waiting 20 years and being cheated out of seeing 'em in Berzerkely in '81, is it too much to ask to see 'em THIS time? Last chance. I'm DESPERATE!! Just when it looks like I've got barely enough funds, another shutoff notice shatters my dreams. I was just beginning to believe I'd actually make it. !!!!*&$$%#&^$%#$*!!!! ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) Re: Wolfgang Fluer in "Future Music" Date: 18 May 1998 13:56:25 +0100 >>There's a 6-page feature on Wolfgang Fluer & Yamo in the June 98 issue of >>the UK music-tech magazine "Future Music". There's some recollections >would someone provide to put them on line, pls? :-) http://www.unl.ac.uk/~jon/kraftwerk/1600/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KING Subject: (kw) The Future is Now Date: 18 May 1998 08:43:22 -0500 (CDT) Aloha, I am Bryce. I am new to the list but I am very happy to see that others are into KW's work enough to keep a list going. As I live in a state that is subject to a completely different, and alien, space time continuum with very little in common with the rest of the universe, I do not have a lot of contact with others of like mind. I guess what I like most about KW and other bands like them is their eye toward the future and sci-fi motif. I like a wide range of music but electronica >I hate that word< is my favorite. Some of the bands I listen to include: System 7, Future sound of london, Skinny Puppy, Art of Noise, Download, Underworld,Mentallo and the Fixer and Front 242. I am a graduate student in Anthropology and I have lived in Japan, which is a very futuristic place, as anyone who has been there can tell you, it looks , smells and feels like a scene from Bladerunner, Outland or something from Heavy Metal Magazine. I am trying desperately to get a self published comic book off of the ground and Star Wars is my religion. I am very happy to be on board and I look forward to meeting all of you. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM Subject: Re: (kw) The Future is Now Date: 18 May 1998 12:03:46 EDT Bryce writes: I guess what I like most about KW and other bands like them is their eye toward the future and sci-fi motif. Hello Bryce, I am sorry to hear about your defective space time continuum. I live in a state of grace. I've only been on the list for a few weeks and I have a feeling you'll enjoy yourself. There seem to be a lot of your fellow americans (you are american, aren't you) who are very excited at seeing KW in concert shortly. I have to take issue with you on the "eye toward the future": I do not believe KW are remotely interested in the future. I believe they are a very backward looking band - in a sense I think they are trying to write history. Take for example the Man Machine album. Ostensibly it's a sci-fi mini-epic like Jean-Michel Jarre's Oxygene. But the whole album (sound, concept, artwork, etc.) sounded dated even in 1977. Fact of the matter is that KW were stepping into the past to look into the future and - in my opinion - have a sarcastic little laugh at the 'optimistic futurism' of the 1920s and 30s. I mean, Neon Lights are not the stuff of sci-fi are they !? And neither is Metropolis (although that kind of scenario had its revival in 1948 with Orwell's 1984 and later with Blade Runner and Tim Burton's Batman and Manga films eg. Akira). The artwork ("inspired by Lissitsky") is totally Soviet constructivism and as such anchor's the whole album concept firmly in the 20s and 30s. The same goes for the Autobahn, Radio Activity and Trans-Europe Express albums. They relate to historically important innovations (all in communications) that belong to a bygone era - and are constructed (unlike the more 'global' Man Machine, Computer World and Electric Cafe) from a resolutely European perspective. Never forget the in-built tendency towards irony that affects even Germans. Europe does this to you because there is a weight of history that could crush you without it. Enough of the theorising. Enjoy the list. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) Media Center now has MPEG video Date: 18 May 1998 21:24:32 +0200 On 18-Maj-98 A.D., Peter Liethen carved the following runes about "(kw) Media Center now has MPEG video": > In addition to the RealVideo files, there will now be a MPEG video > special that will be switcher every 2 or 3 weeks. There, now the other > 4% of the computing worlds can view the music videos. Happy happy, joy joy!!! -- E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) setlist - song lottery Date: 18 May 1998 23:47:49 +0200 >Subject: Re: (kw) 6/10 in Chicago >>Anyone have any idea what Kraftwerk will be playing? What do you think >>they will open with? Okay, let's play "Bingo" ;-)! Here's my "tip", the setlist for the forthcoming tour: Numbers Computerworld The Man Machine Unknown song 1 (only played at ZKM soundcheck) Autobahn Unknown song 2 (only played at ZKM soundcheck) Airwaves New Song 1 (played in Linz and at ZKM) Metropolis Radioacticity New Song 2 (played in Linz and at ZKM) Trans Europe Express Pocket Calculator The Robots Luton Song Musique Non Stop Well, that's it ;-)! Gruesse aus Wien, Georgie -- *********************** Georg Jajus (Vienna) ********************** * Internet: http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * * Mail: a9401326@unet.univie.ac.at or Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at * ************** "In Wien sitzen wir im Nachtcafe..." *************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark Subject: (kw) NY - thinking ahead Date: 18 May 1998 18:12:22 -0400 Can you get food and drink in the Ballroom? Are there any good places to eat that are near the Ballroom? What about after the concert? Any suggestions where would be a good place to hang out in the same area? I got my tickets in the mail today - can you tell? :) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ God is my favorite fictional character. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) NY - thinking ahead Date: 18 May 1998 19:17:04 mark wrote: >Can you get food and drink in the Ballroom? food no, drink yes. >Are there any good places to eat that are near the Ballroom? Keep in mind that the Hammerstein Ballroom is literally two blocks away from both Madison Square Garden and Penn Station, so this is one of the busiest areas in all Manhattan. As such, there are tons of eateries in the vicinity which could accomodate you. >What about after the concert? Any suggestions where would >be a good place to hang out in the same area? That I wouldn't know, it's become my pasttime to slip out of a concert hall the second the gig's over and get the hell out of Manhattan as quickly as possible. =) >I got my tickets in the mail today - can you tell? :) hehe, see you at the show! 26 days to go till KW in NY! >God is my favorite fictional character. Satan's mine. >;o)> -- Scott M. Barnhill nebulous@erols.com #Kraftwerk, IRC's DALnet "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: atv@tvdial.com Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk on swedish TV Date: 18 May 1998 18:09:53 -0500 > The last part of the series Rock&Pop had several referenser to > Kraftwerk, and a few, brief scenes showing Autobahn beeing performed. It > looked like a live event, but no audience was visible. I'd guess it was > recorded 1976 or perhaps 1977, based on their looks. I've never seen > this recording before and it's quite different from the other Autobahn > recordings I've seen. > One fun part was a good close-up of the drum-pads used by Karl and > Wolfgang. They were obviously early prototypes, with cabels visible, and > everything placed in simple boxes. > One thing amazed me. All four on stage, but no neon-signs with their > names! I thought they've been used for all performances since the > R&F-days. It might be that Karl was so new to the group at the time of > the recording, and the sign simply wasn't ready. > > Onybody else who has seen the recording I'm refering to? Somebody who > even has a video-copy of the whole song or performance? Actually I think the segment you are referring to was shot for an early 70's episode of a BBC series called "Tomorrow's World" I saw the whole segment before where they were talking about how they invented the drum pads and are hoping for some day to eliminate the drums all together and trigger the sounds through thier lapells on thier jackets. I only wish I had a copy of this segment:-( Cheers! Phil -- PLEASE NOTE: My E-mail address has changed to: atv@tvdial.com PHILIP SATTERLEY- *progrock Producer- The Midwest's ONLY Progressive Rock music video show!!! http://www.tvdial.com./prog.html DON'T TOUCH THAT DIAL- Classic TV on Videocassette!- http://www.tvdial.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gans allein" Subject: Re: (kw) Gary Numan Tour Dates Date: 18 May 1998 10:48:28 PDT <> < >ROBOT > > >> Are there no philanthropists on the KW list? ROBOT is a KW institution! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CADBOT Subject: Re: (kw) setlist - song lottery Date: 18 May 1998 17:16:18 -0700 Georg Jajus wrote: > >Subject: Re: (kw) 6/10 in Chicago > > Numbers > Computerworld > The Man Machine > Unknown song 1 (only played at ZKM soundcheck) > Autobahn > Unknown song 2 (only played at ZKM soundcheck) > Airwaves > New Song 1 (played in Linz and at ZKM) > Metropolis > Radioacticity > New Song 2 (played in Linz and at ZKM) > Trans Europe Express > Pocket Calculator > The Robots > Luton Song > Musique Non Stop Where's Tour de France? I'll guarantee they'll play that. You must drive. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred Becker Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk SF Concert Listed in Newspaper Date: 18 May 1998 18:53:33 -0700 It is a small item, but this may be the first U.S. publicity regarding Kraftwerk touring in years. San Jose Mercury News, May 15, 1998 EYE Calendar Section; p. 46; Upcoming; Pop, folk, jazz, country: Kraftwerk. 8 p.m. June 7, the Warfield, 982 Market St., San Francisco. $27.50, $29.50. BASS Fred # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: andrew48@gti.net Subject: Re: (kw) setlist - song lottery Date: 18 May 1998 22:01:30 -0400 >Okay, let's play "Bingo" ;-)! >Here's my "tip", the setlist for the forthcoming tour: > >Numbers >Computerworld >The Man Machine >Unknown song 1 (only played at ZKM soundcheck) >Autobahn >Unknown song 2 (only played at ZKM soundcheck) >Airwaves >New Song 1 (played in Linz and at ZKM) >Metropolis >Radioacticity >New Song 2 (played in Linz and at ZKM) >Trans Europe Express >Pocket Calculator >The Robots >Luton Song >Musique Non Stop > >Well, that's it ;-)! > >Gruesse aus Wien, >Georgie > The names of the unknown songs are as followed (In chronological order played at the ZKM conzert, dont know what the soundcheck songz are though): atherwellen (mostly talking), instrumental, lichthof, nummweltverschmutzung (aka TG 97 song). I beleive these are the correct spellings? Also- I picked up a red/tinted black shit to wear but the only problem is that you get VERY hot in it so it will be tough to wear in the floor of the SF concert; so i might just wear some grey slacks and a black t-shirt/ shirt. Anyone find those yellow/bright colored radioactivity suits that you were talking about?? Those would be totally killer. Andrew from ze Computer Welt: http://www.angelfire.com/nj/groovethang # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: (kw) Ticker Tape? Date: 19 May 1998 12:05:26 +0900 Hi all, Talking about the LED-style display of the venues , the Java *.class files are put in the directory www.kraftwerk.com/java (which is obvious from the source code of konzert3.html). The file listing is the same as that of a Java shareware "Digital LED TIcker Tape". :-) Info on this shareware can be found at: Regards, Hiroshi. ---- Hiroshi MURATA (NTT Software Labs./Musashino Tokyo Japan) (work) (private) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TPURE Subject: Re: Re: (kw) NY - thinking ahead Date: 18 May 1998 23:02:05 EDT In a message dated 5/18/98 11:17:53 PM, you wrote: <<>What about after the concert? Any suggestions where would >be a good place to hang out in the same area? That I wouldn't know, it's become my pasttime to slip out of a concert hall the second the gig's over and get the hell out of Manhattan as quickly as possible. =)>> We're probably heading to the club Twilo's @ 530 W. 27th St. ("techno" until the wee hours). It's one of Manhattan's most popular dance clubs (home of DJs Sasha & Digweed), so maybe Ralf & Florian will stop by if they're not too sleepy! tIMPURE http://www.geocities.com/~burncycle-rv2/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EJRSemiGod Subject: Re: (kw) setlist - song lottery Date: 18 May 1998 23:26:34 EDT In a message dated 98-05-18 22:13:45 EDT, andrew48@gti.net writes: << Anyone find those yellow/bright colored radioactivity suits that you were talking about?? Those would be totally killer. >> hehe. radioactivity suits, eh? They're availble by my house for about $10 bucks... Or from MUTATO MUSIKA (run by Mark Mothersbragh from DEVO!!!!) for $20 (sports the official DEVO logo lettering) http://www.mutato.com/ heh Mutato also has the Energy Domes (a.k.a. 'flowerpots') available.. heh heh.. EJRDuck! "Nu-Tra Speaks!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: (kw) VirtualStudio.org Date: 19 May 1998 14:16:57 +0900 Hi all, I've tried (I mean FTP, not HTTP) to find if there's any file ready for download, and the connection is established! But it only says: Welcome to ftp://VirtualStudio.org "Make the music... Take the music..." whose contents doesn't seem to have any relation with R&F. I've got no idea with this VirtualStudio thing. Does anybody know what it is? Thanks in advance, Hiroshi. ---- Hiroshi MURATA (NTT Software Labs./Musashino Tokyo Japan) (work) (private) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Gary Numan Tour Dates Date: 19 May 1998 01:21:08 -0700 >>Does anybody wanna buy my ENSONIQ SQ so I can go see my boys?<< >Are there no philanthropists on the KW list?< >ROBOT is a KW institution!< You mean, "ROBOT belongs IN an institution", right? ;] Philanthropists on the List? hell, no. Everyone's as broke as I am, and we ALL have bills to pay. But, I'll just let the bills slide if I have to. -(there goes the Internet first of all)- I keep saying "I'd turn tricks if anyone would have me", but, nobody wants me, so, that's not an option. I'm just pissed because my Husband had a $300 job lined up later this month, but, it fell through because his tools got ripped-off and the lady hired a contractor with his own tools & equipment and cheaper hourly rates.*ARGH*. Life's a bitch. Then you die. I'll figure out a way to see KW. THEN I can die happy. Hm-m, I'm going to write a review of both West Coast shows. Maybe some magazine will publish it, eh? fat chance. -(It's too late to write for "FI". I was going to review the new album, but, it never came out. Now "FI" is back-logged with articles.)- I'll write something anyway, just to capture the greatest experience of my otherwise lousy life. ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM Subject: Re: (kw) setlist & NEW ALBUM Date: 19 May 1998 04:26:22 EDT Won't they be pre-viewing the entire album (they seemed to do this on the Computer World tour ? Has anyone heard the one about some guy on a bicycle arriving at EMI HQ and dumping a plastic carrier-bag full of tapes at reception ? Is this silly rumour-mongering or are the record company really unhappy with the material ? Sales of Electric Cafe apparently set a record low. And with the amount of publicity this album is getting could it end up being a close rival ? In fact, does anyone know ANYTHING about the record yet ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) Gary Numan Tour Dates Date: 19 May 1998 09:33:27 +0100 Anyone who's interested in a couple of photos from the Numan US tour, go to this URL:- http://www3.pgh.net/~downstat/sleeproom/updates.html ciao Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) NY - thinking ahead Date: 19 May 1998 09:35:34 +0100 Scott M. Barnhill wrote: > > >God is my favorite fictional character. > > Satan's mine. >;o)> I'm mine ;-) Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) VirtualStudio.org Date: 19 May 1998 12:57:07 +0200 (DFT) > I've tried (I mean FTP, not HTTP) > to find if there's any file ready for download, and the > connection is established! > > But it only says: > Welcome to ftp://VirtualStudio.org > "Make the music... Take the music..." > > whose contents doesn't seem to have any relation with R&F. > I've got no idea with this VirtualStudio thing. > Does anybody know what it is? Check http://www.virtualstudio.org. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Gary Numan Tour Dates Date: 19 May 1998 13:07:43 +0000 ROBOT wrote: > > I'm just pissed because my Husband had a $300 job lined > up later this month, but, it fell through because his tools got > ripped-off and the lady hired a contractor with his own tools & > equipment and cheaper hourly rates.*ARGH*. Life's a bitch. Then you > die. I'll figure out a way to see KW. THEN I can die happy. Mind you, I just lost a $10.000 job because I'll be away in early june, following the KW tour... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Read Subject: (kw) Tokyo Meet? Date: 19 May 1998 23:09:32 +1000 Hi all, Are there members on the list who are making the journey to, or are already in, Tokyo for the upcoming 3 shows there? I am travelling up from Sydney for the shows, and the last time I met with list members in Linz, it was a most successful event. We even got meet Florian Schneider for a couple of minutes. If anyone would like to meet at the shows, or around 3pm on 2nd June before the soundcheck at 4pm (as per the '97 shows) email me. Cheers Adam Read Sydney AUSTRALIA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Read Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk LP? Date: 19 May 1998 23:34:23 +1000 There has been a new bootleg advertised called: >Metal Box 2LP (Limited to 200 copies) No other info available. Adam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) setlist - song lottery Date: 19 May 1998 11:13:30 -0400 >> > >>Anyone have any idea what Kraftwerk will be playing? What do you think > >>they will open with? > > Okay, let's play "Bingo" ;-)! > Here's my "tip", the setlist for the forthcoming tour: > > Numbers > Computerworld > The Man Machine > Unknown song 1 (only played at ZKM soundcheck) > Autobahn > Unknown song 2 (only played at ZKM soundcheck) > Airwaves > New Song 1 (played in Linz and at ZKM) > Metropolis > Radioacticity > New Song 2 (played in Linz and at ZKM) > Trans Europe Express > Pocket Calculator > The Robots > Luton Song > Musique Non Stop > > Well, that's it ;-)! << Amazingly, this list of a possible set look all to possible! I certainly would love to hear 'Metropolis' in the new minimal style. In addition to a nice minimal/acid/idm version of 'Neon Lights'. My vote is that this would follow Radioactivity. I feel soooo happy just thinking about the possibilities!! :-) WARNING: Secret link to track from the upcoming new f(x) CD. "Driving with the Blinker On" (Length = 1:54, Dual ISDN, Stereo) Download: http://efofex.simplenet.com/unreleased/driving_with_the_blinker_on__2isdn.ra Streaming: http://efofex.simplenet.com/unreleased/driving_with_the_blinker_on__2isdn.ram Link may of course disappear at any moment :-) Regards, -John f(x) Talbert mailto:jtalbert@ameritech.net ______________________________________________________________ The Electronica of Efofex - Noise has a new purpose http://efofex.simplenet.com r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk SF Concert Listed in Newspaper Date: 19 May 1998 12:04:35 EDT On Mon, 18 May 1998 18:53:33 -0700 Fred Becker writes: > >It is a small item, but this may be the first U.S. publicity regarding >Kraftwerk touring in years. > >San Jose Mercury News, May 15, 1998 >EYE Calendar Section; p. 46; Upcoming; Pop, folk, jazz, country: > >Kraftwerk. 8 p.m. June 7, the Warfield, > 982 Market St., San Francisco. > $27.50, $29.50. BASS > nope...see below... from THE POP LIFE column by Neil Strauss (New York Times 04.23.98) A Time for Reunion Two seminal European bands that each practically singlehandedly pioneered a genre of music will most likely reunite for their first American tours since breaking up. Kraftwerk, the German electronic group whose robot-and-machine obsessed music resulted in techno and heavily influenced disco and early rap, will be on its first American tour in 17 years this summer. On its six-date tour, the band will perform at the Hammerstein Ballroom in Manhattan on June 13 and as part of the Tibetan Freedom Concert in Washington on June 14. The band, which will return in 1999 for a full tour, features two of its original members, Ralf Hutter and Florian Schneider, and judging by the band's first reunion show in England last summer, not much in their minimal, thought-provoking multimedia performance has changed. A spokeswoman for the band said that there was no word on whether Kraftwerk would release a new record. (article goes on to talk about a bauhaus reunion) tom w sp: suns of arqa - cradle _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sgt.norman.hopper@wrsmtp-ccmail.army.mil (SGT Norman Hopper) Subject: (kw) Free tibet festival Date: 19 May 1998 14:28:16 -0400 Anyone know the sequence of the bands to play Sunday, June 14th at the Free Tibet Festival? I am *only* going to see Kraftwerk, and I am hoping they play at least 3-4 songs, I know they play Sunday, but I'm betting they either open or close the day of music. The time and space it takes to set up there "studio", I can't see them leaving it on stage all day, but maybe they'll use their little portables, who knows??? I'm going to pissed if they play 1-2 songs with little handhelds and split! Here's hoping. Anyone else in the MD-DC-VA area going to the show? Big Daddy Norm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Talbert Subject: (kw) Off topic: Fixed Efofex streaming link. Date: 19 May 1998 15:41:38 -0400 Oops! I had some missing info in the streaming link for the new Efofex track. It should work now. Streaming: http://efofex.simplenet.com/unreleased/driving_with_the_blinker_on__2isdn.ram Download: http://efofex.simplenet.com/unreleased/driving_with_the_blinker_on__2isdn.ra BTW: If you want to be notified when the new Efofex CD is released, email me at: jtalbert@ameritech.net Thanks! -John ______________________________________________________________ The Electronica of Efofex - Noise has a new purpose http://efofex.simplenet.com r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EJRSemiGod Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk SF Concert Listed in Newspaper Date: 19 May 1998 15:53:27 EDT In a message dated 98-05-19 12:10:27 EDT, tweibrecht@juno.com writes: << The band, which will return in 1999 for a full tour >> YES YES YES. This had BETTER be true. at least in the U.S.!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: briley@gte.net Subject: (kw) SF Concert on June 7th Date: 19 May 1998 14:13:24 -0700 This concert is apparently sold out.....anyone have any leads on where I could score a pair of tickets? (No, I'm not holding my breath while waiting....) -- Bruce # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: (kw) NYC location Date: 19 May 1998 22:35:50 +0500 I find it an interesting coincidence that the Hammerstein Ballroom is right next to the Hotel New Yorker, where Nikola Tesla spent his last years. I'll bet he would have liked the show... ;-) -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Impending disaster in the music industry (off-topic) Date: 20 May 1998 01:24:55 -0400 MUSIC LOVERS OF THE WORLD MUST UNITE! Unless you've been hiding under a rock, you've heard that Segram (the Canadian liquor company that already owns MCA Inc.) is intending to purchase PolyGram, the Dutch music corporation. If you are a lover of music or an aspiring musician, this is a calamity because the "big 6" (the major labels) will be reduced to five (MCA and PolyGram WILL merge if this transaction succeeds). This will cause increased censorship (due to Edgar Bronfman Jr., head of Segram--remember the recent Death Row/Interscope debacle? Interscope is 50% owned by MCA) and less diversity of available product. I plead with each and every one of you to write to PolyGram to try to persuade them not to sell out to Segram. If Royal Philips NV wants to sell their 75% stake of PolyGram, they should try to get other buyers, or take the rest of the company public, as is the case with the other 25%. PLEASE TRY TO PREVENT IMPENDING DOOM TO THE WORLDWIDE MUSIC INDUSTRY. Feel free to forward this letter to anyone. Peace. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MC3P0 Subject: (kw) Need a ticket... Poor me! Date: 19 May 1998 22:55:18 -0700 Ahem, well - I kinda lost the window of opportunity for the San Fran show... That is, unless someone out there has an extra ticket that I can get from them. I've got a place lined up and finally got the time off, now I just need to get the ticket... Anyone? Much Love to My Werklings, Bill -- __________ _______________________________________ | o%o [_]| /The Sci-Fi Disco Fembots From Hell(tm)/\ |__________| / http://www.geocities.com/paris/6937 / / /ooo/ /ooo/\ /______________________________________/ / /___/////// /~\_________Analog is my bitch.__________\/ \_________\/ "It's klinkity-klankity disco goodness!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) Impending disaster in the music industry (off-topic) Date: 20 May 1998 09:58:27 +0100 Adam Schefflan wrote: > > PLEASE TRY TO PREVENT IMPENDING DOOM TO THE WORLDWIDE MUSIC INDUSTRY. > Feel free to forward this letter to anyone. Peace. > eh? Nah matey, i doesn't work quite like that over here in europe. -- ciao, Jules Seifert - ICQ #7421804 The Kraftwerk IRC Channel:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: Re: (kw) VirtualStudio.org Date: 20 May 1998 19:40:28 +0900 -------- Forwarded message: (Thanks, lbo! :-) )--------------------------= ----- From: lbo@iol.it To: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: Re: (kw) VirtualStudio.org Date: Tue, 19 May 98 08:02:23 +0000 -- > I've got no idea with this VirtualStudio thing. > Does anybody know what it is?=20 I am now on HTTP://www.virtualstudio.org, here are some quotations: --- start quote -------------- The Virtual Community for Musicians, Poets, Artists =DDand their Patrons=DD =DDVirtualStudio is a virtual community of artists who share their resources to inspire, create, produce, and distribute their work directly to a global audience. -- VirtualStudio, Inc... is a Non Profit Membership Corporation, acting for the common good of the membership as defined by its Mission Statement. Debates,=DD plans, and recommendations concerning policies and=DD programs occur through e-mail dialogues on The Studio Mailing List --- end quote ---------- there is, between others, a "mission statement" link that is not working.= =20 if you like dilbert cartoons (www.dilbert.com) you know this could be something very = good. my first guess is that they give space at convenient conditions to artist= s and that some K assistants (this Andreas, for instance) may be using some of their resources. it seem that www.kraftwerk.com could stay in a 500k space, maybe for heavier files to ftp here or there (think being on tour and your backup file fails...) ins= tead of buying full commercial price space maybe one could take profit of similar organizations that cut the price to the bone for their friends... or next big concept of K will be really sharing musical resources on internet... let's sample ourselves all together... I've seen a nice motto on an italian ind= ustrial netzine: "fell free to sample us because we already sampled you"... or, who know... :-)=20 maybe if some other fellow listie know this organization he can say something more consistent. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) ftp://www.kraftwerk.com Date: 20 May 1998 13:16:29 +0100 I moved lower down in the library of the boys and found a load of =2Ezip-fi= les in: ftp://www=2Ekraftwerk=2Ecom/tmp/tmp/ What is it anyone? I wonder/Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) UNIX-anyone?(ftp://www.kraftwerk.com Date: 20 May 1998 13:21:44 +0100 =2E=2E=2Ethere=B4s also something that could be a unix-app or something unix owners try this please: ftp://www=2Ekraftwerk=2Ecom/vmunix /Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) ftp://www.kraftwerk.com Date: 20 May 1998 12:37:56 +0100 johan.andersson@allers.aller.se wrote: > > I moved lower down in the library of the boys and found a load of .zip-files > in: > ftp://www.kraftwerk.com/tmp/tmp/ > > What is it anyone? Well, it seems that our mutual friends are either into hacking, or it's totally unrelated, i'd hope for the latter, cos those zips contain hacked, cracked or ripped files, mainly games. Or do we now know what they do in the endless hours of spare time they seem to have at KK studios? ;-) -- ciao, Jules Seifert - ICQ #7421804 The Kraftwerk IRC Channel:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Power Subject: Re: (kw) ftp://www.kraftwerk.com Date: 20 May 1998 12:57:00 +0100 At 12:37 20/05/98 +0100, you wrote: > >johan.andersson@allers.aller.se wrote: >> >> I moved lower down in the library of the boys and found a load of .zip-files >> in: >> ftp://www.kraftwerk.com/tmp/tmp/ >> >> What is it anyone? > >Well, it seems that our mutual friends are either into hacking, or it's >totally unrelated, i'd hope for the latter, cos those zips contain >hacked, cracked or ripped files, mainly games. > hehehe. It looks like R&F could be involved in more courtroom drama, one way or another by the looks of things. ;-) >Or do we now know what they do in the endless hours of spare time they >seem to have at KK studios? ;-) Well, if they were gonna hack stuff, they'd probably still be on ZX81 software, judging by their werk rate! :-) Ta ta for now Alien Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo@iol.it Subject: Re: (kw) ftp://www.kraftwerk.com Date: 20 May 1998 12:26:23 +0000 well, is not nice to sneak in other one's directories, anyway here is the file_id.diz of one of these files: World League Soccer by Eidos [10/63] another clue that K are closely related to, and likes football? :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) ftp://www.kraftwerk.com Date: 20 May 1998 08:45:47 -0400 >> > well, is not nice to sneak in other one's directories, anyway here is the file_id.diz > of one of these files: > World League Soccer by Eidos [10/63] > another clue that K are closely related to, and likes football? > :-) << I know everyone is having fun hacking through this FTP site, but has anyone really noticed that ftp.kraftwerk.com is simply a redirection to ftp.VirtualStudio.org? From what I've seen, it pretty much has no relation with Kraftwerk whatsoever. More than likely this is merely just another account on the same server. One other thing to note is that all information of what is browsed and downloaded is maintained in detailed server logs. This information contains your IP address, what time you were there and what files you downloaded or attempted to download. Not trying to make anyone panic. Although panic is good for an adrenaline rush or two :-) ______________________________________________________________ The Electronica of Efofex - Noise has a new purpose http://efofex.simplenet.com r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Luca Dassi" Subject: R: (kw) ftp://www.kraftwerk.com Date: 20 May 1998 16:42:32 +0200 It seems to me that KW and Virtualstudio simply share their Internet provider: www.iacnet.net. In fact: www.kraftwerk.com and www.virtualstudio.org have very similar IP addresses: 207.106.88.191 and 207.106.88.172 and thay are both serviced by the same DNS server (IACnet). IMHO the folks at IACnet simply forgot to redirect this kind of FTP request to the appropriate server: thus we "land" on virtualstudio.org when FTP'ing www.kraftwerk.com. Just take a look at IACNET home page...they don't seem very organized! Ciao, *Luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CADBOT Subject: Re: (kw) Chi {NYC} location Date: 19 May 1998 23:48:25 -0500 The Riviera in Chicago is right near the El where The E. Express runs (The Evanston Express - TEE). It's also not far from the the maintenance shed that was on fire next to the El line. (El stands for ELevated rail line) Christopher Gross wrote: > I find it an interesting coincidence that the Hammerstein Ballroom is right > next to the Hotel New Yorker, where Nikola Tesla spent his last years. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo@iol.it Subject: (kw) radioactive logo and godzilla Date: 20 May 1998 15:38:58 +0000 sigh... it seem that there will be a remake of godzilla in 1998... anyway if you go to http://www.godzilla.com/godzilla_4/mainframe.html you'll find a nice animated gif of a radar monitor green 3-d spinning radioactive logo. if you search around you'll find it in at least three sizes. mind, the page is heavy. I don't know if it's ok but if someone asked me I would feel like attaching it in three sizes to him. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@slab.ntt.co.jp (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: Re: (kw) VirtualStudio.org Date: 20 May 1998 19:39:12 +0900 -------- Forwarded message: (Thanks, lbo! :-) )--------------------------= ----- From: lbo@iol.it To: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: Re: (kw) VirtualStudio.org Date: Tue, 19 May 98 08:02:23 +0000 -- > I've got no idea with this VirtualStudio thing. > Does anybody know what it is?=20 I am now on HTTP://www.virtualstudio.org, here are some quotations: --- start quote -------------- The Virtual Community for Musicians, Poets, Artists=1B$B=DF=01=1B(B =1B$B=DFB=1B(Bnd their Patrons=1B$B=DF=ED=1B(B =1B$B=DF7=1B(BirtualStudio is a virtual community of artists who share their resources to inspire, create, produce, and distribute their work directly to a global audience. -- VirtualStudio, Inc... is a Non Profit Membership Corporation, acting for the common good of the membership as defined by its Mission Statement. Debates,=1B$B=DF=01=1B(Bplans, and recommendations concerning policies and=1B$B=DF=01=1B(Bprograms occur through e-mail dialogues on The Studio Mailing List --- end quote ---------- there is, between others, a "mission statement" link that is not working.= =20 if you like dilbert cartoons (www.dilbert.com) you know this could be something very = good. my first guess is that they give space at convenient conditions to artist= s and that some K assistants (this Andreas, for instance) may be using some of their resources. it seem that www.kraftwerk.com could stay in a 500k space, maybe for heavier files to ftp here or there (think being on tour and your backup file fails...) ins= tead of buying full commercial price space maybe one could take profit of similar organizations that cut the price to the bone for their friends... or next big concept of K will be really sharing musical resources on internet... let's sample ourselves all together... I've seen a nice motto on an italian ind= ustrial netzine: "fell free to sample us because we already sampled you"... or, who know... :-)=20 maybe if some other fellow listie know this organization he can say something more consistent. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Boccianti Luca Subject: R: (kw) ftp://www.kraftwerk.com Date: 20 May 1998 13:28:00 +0200 > I moved lower down in the library of the boys and found a load of > .zip-files > well, is not nice to sneak in other one's directories, anyway here is the file_id.diz of one of these files: World League Soccer by Eidos [10/63] another clue that K are closely related to, and likes football? :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Young" Subject: (kw) language/Hammerstein area Date: 20 May 1998 08:11:42 PDT As a poor 30-year-old with zero experience with live Kraftwerk--never even heard a bootleg--am I correct in assuming that apart from, say, "Tour de France" and tracks like "Numbers/Nummern," KW sing (play tapes, whatever) in English when playing in English-speaking countries e.g. the U.S. I have my NYC ticket and can't wait. I'm fluent in German and have the German-language lyrics seered into my gray matter pretty well so it will be strange to have to deal with the inferior English ones, but I'll take my KW any way I can get it. As for KW and a possible Twilo appearance as someone speculated, I doubt that a couple of 51-year-olds will show up at a gay dance club in Chelsea after playing their first NYC show in 17 years. As concerns food in and around the Hammerstein, yes, it's a very busy area with Madison Square Garden right there, but it's mostly run-down saloons, Irish pubs, sports bars and fast food catering to the commuter crowd--nothing inspiring. Eat in another part of town; do yourself a favor. See you there. Jeff Young "This man is depriving a village somewhere of an idiot." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk on swedish TV Date: 20 May 1998 17:56:42 +0100 >Actually I think the segment you are referring to was shot for an early >70's episode of a BBC series called "Tomorrow's World" I saw the whole >segment before where they were talking about how they invented the drum >pads and are hoping for some day to eliminate the drums all together and >trigger the sounds through their lapels on their jackets. I only wish I >had a copy of this segment:-( you can listen to a realaudio of the segment here: http://www.unl.ac.uk/~jon/kraftwerk/1000/tw.ra one day if i get my shit together i'll put an mpg or something of it up as well # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SPINmc Subject: (kw) new member working on KW article for spin Date: 20 May 1998 14:01:17 EDT I am a photo researcher at Spin magazine, working on a major article on Kraftwerk that will appear in Spin's August issue. As I am sure many of you know, there aren't too many photos of the band out there, and I am turning to the internet in an effort to find any personal or concert photos that we might be able to use to illustrate the story. We are also looking for original album sleeves from all of Kraftwerk's albums. Obviously, any photographs or albums sleeves are highly valuable material, and we will take the utmost care to insure that no material lent to Spin will be damaged in any way. Please feel free to contact me at this email address, at my personal email address (rwheeler@interport.net), or by telephone at 212.633.8200 x254. Thanks in advance for your help. Richard Wheeler # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Johnson Subject: (kw) Confirm of San Fran sellout Date: 20 May 1998 13:11:14 -0700 Just to doubly confirm something that has been spoken of here before.... The San Francisco Kraftwerk show (June 8 at the Warfield theater) has SOLD OUT. 1900 "seats" (seats in the balcony, mostly standing room down below) have sold. There MAY be seats available day of show at the Warfield. The other dates on the tour still have tickets available, according to the Ticketmaster Web site (www.ticketmaster.com). By the way, the description for the June 10th Chicago show states "Miller Genuine Draft". Ralf and Florian, corporate schills???????!?!?!?!?! the mind boggles..... -Keith J. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jose Garcia" Subject: (kw) SONAR 98 Date: 20 May 1998 23:19:14 +0000 Some additional info about the SONAR 98 festival. The hall capacity is 6000 people. For now, only 3-day tickets will be on sale. The press responsible says they will only consider selling one-day tickets a few days before the festival and suggested I get in touch 2 weeks before. Kraftwerk won't even allow press photographs at the concert or give interviews. Do you know how will that work on the US shows? Jose Garcia Aktivitaet Spain: aktivitat@arrakis.es Aktivitaet Online (Unofficial Kraftwerk fanzine) http://www.arrakis.es/~jgc/aktivitat.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco DuBose Subject: (kw) ROBOT shouldn't sell her synth Date: 20 May 1998 23:17:14 -0500 >Are there no philanthropists on the KW list? >ROBOT is a KW institution! I'm feeling magnaminous. I'll put the first $20 into the hat. Nine more philanthropists....? Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tracker Subject: (kw) radioactive logo and godzilla Date: 21 May 1998 08:54:59 +0200 (MET DST) Hi! > sigh... it seem that there will be a remake of godzilla in 1998... > anyway if you go to > http://www.godzilla.com/godzilla_4/mainframe.html > you'll find a nice animated gif of a radar monitor green 3-d spinning radioactive > logo. Thank You very much! These pictures are wonderful! - JOHNY - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Roskilde Festival Newsletter Date: 21 May 1998 10:07:26 +0000 Excerpt from the most recent Roskilde Festival newsletter: NYHEDSBREV 08/98 [...] KRAFTWERK er pa scenen den 25. juni med hele deres teknologiske set-up. Kraftwerk er som orkester fra 1970, men hele karrieren har gruppen vaeret lysar foran sin tid og stilskabende inden for den computerbarne musik. Gennem de seneste mange ar har Kraftwerk kun optradt "live" ved sjaeldne lejligheder. I sommeren '98 oplyses det, at Kraftwerk spiller to jobs - heraf et stort i Roskilde. [...] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Michael Rother interview Date: 21 May 1998 10:07:26 +0000 There is a new interview with Michael Rother at http://www.shmooze.net/exclaim/features/9802/nf/3txt.htm. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Harmonia WWW pages Date: 21 May 1998 10:07:26 +0000 Sony has put up some official Harmonia WWW pages at http://www.sonymusic.de/Music/Columbia/DancePool/harmonia/. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Die With Dignity Date: 21 May 1998 10:07:26 +0000 The first Die With Dignity album "Kraut?" (Captain Trip, CT CD-098) is presented by Klaus Dinger / La! NEU?. The Captain Trip mailorder catalogue describes the band as "Klaus Dinger's family group", which is not litterally true, of course. ;-) Die With Dignity have WWW pages at http://www.ping.de/sites/perry/die.htm. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Sample CD Date: 21 May 1998 10:07:26 +0000 Quoted from the June issue of Future Music, p. 13: For the record If you've read the Wolfgang Fluer interview on p70 and fancy sounding like Kraftwerk you could do worse than seek out Komputer's latest sample CD - "Komputer Inside" - full of Kraftwerk-inspired loops, hits and FX, out now on Mute. [...] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Concert Classics Date: 21 May 1998 10:07:26 +0000 > CONCERT CLASSICS . . by . . KRAFTWERK > ORIGIN: ENG I've heard that the release of this CD was postponed. The reported new release date is June 29th. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Craig Land" Subject: (kw) Query Date: 21 May 1998 09:18:49 +0100 Hi there, As alot of you will realise, I for one do not consider myself a Kraftwerk fanatic. I therefore have never really bothered with buying releases from Michael Rother and Klaus Dinger etc or anyone else who has ever been remotely connected to KW (I did once buy a record by the lady who made the tea at Kling Klang Studio's, it was called, 'I play the spoons'!!!!!!!!!!). This may be a question for the likes of Klaus Zepke, but how would some of you who have bought these type of releases describe their releases? I have heard Neu, the first album, is the style much removed from this? Cheers, Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DONATO Subject: (kw) intro Date: 21 May 1998 14:27:49 -0400 Hello. I'm new to this list and I've just gotten tickets to an actual Kraftwerk concert again [I had tix for the ill-fated '92 tour] and I'm hoping that this time there is no cancellation of the tour. As a child who listened to the [top 40] radio with gusto, I can unequivocally state that "Autobhan" was one of the 3 most significant singles in my life. [The other being Lou Reed's "Walk On The Wild Side" and Roxy Music's "Love Is The Drug] These songs pointed the way to a larger world for me and these artists exist today as meta-influences on nearly everyone whose music I've come to enjoy in the past 20-odd years. News of this tour comes as a shock. The Kraftwerk story a recent Goldmine alluded to new material but I haven't found any evidence of it yet. Can anyone out there supply answers? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Roskilde Festival Newsletter/other stuff Date: 21 May 1998 11:43:32 -0700 Klaus Zäpke sagt: >Excerpt from the most recent Roskilde Festival newsletter:< >KRAFTWERK er pa scenen den 25. juni med hele deres teknologiske set-up. Kraftwerk er som orkester fra 1970...< Ubersetzung, bitte? Danke! :] -(Translation, please? Thanks!)- other stuff: Let me just say danke schön to everyone for all their encouragement and assistance in making my most cherished dream come true- KRAFTWERK *LIVE*!! Ich LIEBE Die MENSCH.MASCHINE! As for my ENSONIQ ESQ1, -(so THAT's what it's called. I checked it out at Mom's house yesterday. What? No headphone jack in the back?!! jeez!)- A couple people have expressed interest, and I really don't want to part with ANY of my MusiK Maschines -sentimental fool that I am- but, if I must, I must. Besides, I'd have to hassle with finding an amp and make sure it WERKs okay. -(I was gonna take it to a music store for test & appraisal, but, I don't think they'd appreciate me wasting their time.)- I'm really busy with trip plans anyway, so, I'm not gonna stress about the ENSONIQ right now. If i absolutely HAVE to, I'll sell it after I get back. I really wish I had a silk-screen set-up so I could do my K-shirts. I ain't got TIME to hand paint 'em all. -(If I catch those speed freaks that ripped off our storage unit last month, I'll KILL 'em! But I'll wait till after my Konzert trip. THEN I can rot in jail. I don't care. But, I want to eliminate those thieves!!)- *ARGH* I'm so frustrated! But, really- I think I'm gonna make it. To hell with the bills. Dammitt. I'm gonna see KRAFTWERK. so there. ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "D. A. Nelson" Subject: Re: (kw) ROBOT shouldn't sell her synth Date: 21 May 1998 11:58:51 -0700 Marco DuBose wrote: > >Are there no philanthropists on the KW list? > >ROBOT is a KW institution! > > I'm feeling magnaminous. I'll put the first $20 into the hat. Nine more > philanthropists....? I'll throw in $40. I've never seen a more devoted fan. ROBOT, the check is in the mail (seriously!) 7 more please. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) (Fwd) MCT Newsletter May 21 Date: 21 May 1998 21:40:49 +0000 Excerpt from the most recent MCT newsletter: ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Here the newest information regarding the tours and artists MCT is looking after: [...] KRAFTWERK - the dates in Tokio are now all sold out and there are only tickets available for LA, Chicago and Detroit. NY and SF went clean. Washington sold out 135.000 tickets in 6 hours. If you wish to obtain more information about the Tibetian Freedom Concerts contact www.tibet98.com [...] The Concert Companies MCT Konzertagentur GmbH Berlin Germany Tel. + 49-30-53 63 82 00 Fax. + 49-30-53 63 82 22 Web Site: www.tickets.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Michael Rother interview Date: 21 May 1998 21:40:49 +0000 Another new Michael Rother interview can be found at http://www.furious.com/perfect/michaelrother.html. Relevant news: a) "The Neu! catalog is in the process of being legally reissued". b) "In addition, a Neu! tribute CD is going to be out soon with a contribution by Michael (and liner notes from PSF) as well as Autechre, System 7 and Legendary Pink Dots." [The Michael Rother track is titled "Neutronics 98 (A Tribute to Conny Plank)". Release date is June 2nd.] c) "MICHAEL ROTHER - CHRONICLES I is out on Cleopatra now." Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "abzug" Subject: Re: (kw) Query Date: 21 May 1998 21:18:15 +0100 >As alot of you will realise, I for one do not consider myself a Kraftwerk >fanatic. I therefore have never really bothered with buying releases from >Michael Rother and Klaus Dinger etc or anyone else who has ever been >remotely connected to KW (I did once buy a record by the lady who made the >tea at Kling Klang Studio's, it was called, 'I play the spoons'!!!!!!!!!!). hehehe - that ultra rare item must have been the free 7" single that came with the initial promo copies of 'techno pop', no? ;) jon alsbury i want to die in my sleep like my grandfather ... not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) ROBOT shouldn't sell her synth Date: 21 May 1998 13:26:04 -0700 >I'll throw in $40. I've never seen a more devoted fan.< >ROBOT, the check is in the mail (seriously!)< This totally blows me away- you guys are TOO nice! I'm not worthy! I'm not worthy! Well- that does it- I GOTTA make some K-shirts for you wonderful people. It takes a couple days for each shirt because I have to hand draw the design on a black T-shirt with a white hem marker, then dab the silver paint on. It's a labor of love. Check the ArtWERK page on my WebSite to see the front design. I'll do RADIOKATIVITÄT on the back. Please give chest size and height so I can pick & choose among my T-shirts. -(Sizes run different according to brand, etc. These are all good shirts, 50/50 cotton-poly. Most have short sleeves and regular "crew" colars. There's a couple V-necks and maybe 1 or 2 long-sleeve turtle-necks.)- I can't guarantee I can finish & mail 'em before the Konzerts, but, if folks are going out of their way to donate- I'll certainly bust my butt to make K-shirts for y'all. Don't forget- there are plenty of OTHER Fans in need- like HeatherD in Arkansas- she needs transportation, etc, and Greg Smith had a ride to Chicago but they flaked out on him.*ARGH*. I hope we can all help each other out for EVerybody's sake. I'm honored that so many people want to help me- but, please, spread it around. I'm not alone in being "needy", and it's really embarrassing to be this poor, believe me. -(I hope JBV gets another project soon to make up for the $10,000 gig he gave up to attend the US Konzerts. Even rich people have made great sacrifices. Thanks again, JBV, for your help!*SMOOCH*!)- Thank you EVeryone! Please help others as well, if you can. Harambi! -(Swahili)- "Let's pull together". ROBOT aka: Melanie Jean Mayfield 805 "M" Street Eureka, CA 95501-1947 Remember, Christoph Marquardt and I and hopefully 1-2 other bodies will be staying at The Union Square Plaza Hotel, 432 Geary, June 6th & 7th. Please meet us there early afternoon Sunday June 7th, or look for us in front of the Warfield. I'm the short fat old chick with LONG red hair & glasses wearing a SILVER headband. -(I'm still looking for a nice solid black secretary suit: black skirt & jacket, black hose, a slinky black/silver blouse, and black/silver comfy shoes.)- If you look for me you can find each other as well. Same drill for the Hollywood Palladium and the Party at Kontrol Faktory -(836 N.Highland)- after the Konzert. I love all youse guys! You're too nice! Share the KRAFTWERK Experience! ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) new shirts available Date: 18 May 1998 05:04:42 +0100 Selectadisc in Berwick Street London is selling some high quality official Radioactivity shirts for 9.99. They come in black with the yellow print of the single sleeve on the front. This is the first time I've seen these in the shops ever.. Today's highlight: Walking past Scotland Yard just as the "KGB and Scotland Yard" vocal on "ComputerWorld" was blasting through my headphones. -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Marcus Fjellström" Subject: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 21 May 1998 23:30:51 +0200 OK, push me down a toilet seat if this has been discussed before, but I can't find it in the FAQ so here I go: In the last episode of BBC's 'Dancing in the streets' rockumentary series, a live clip of Kraftwerk performing Autobahn in what looks like '74 or '75, was seen. It was clear that the performance was carefully filmed, using many camera angles and close up shots of synthesizers, percussion devices and other goodies. Basically: There has to be a very good and very interesting recording on film somewhere. Is it available, or buried in the BBC archives? Love to you all. Marcus Björn Marcus Fjellström (marcopop@hem.passagen.se) Der Telefon Anruf: +46 (0)950 66893 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Collins Subject: Re: (kw) ROBOT shouldn't sell her synth Date: 21 May 1998 20:13:48 -0700 >> >Are there no philanthropists on the KW list? >> >ROBOT is a KW institution! >> >> I'm feeling magnaminous. I'll put the first $20 into the hat. Nine more >> philanthropists....? > >I'll throw in $40. I've never seen a more devoted fan. >ROBOT, the check is in the mail (seriously!) > >7 more please. $20 here. 6 more. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Garc=EDa_Aparicio?=" Subject: (kw) Electric Music + Komputer Date: 21 May 1998 14:31:07 +0200 Hallo again. Karl Bartos had released another Elektric Music (although he'd changed the name a little). As Electric Music (with "c") is involved alone in the brand new album, available right now. The cover presents a foreground of Bartos with the blue background, the cataloge number is SPV085-61932CD, Germany, 1998, and time 56 minutes and 59 seconds, and includes 12 tracks: Young Urban Professional 4:42, Sunshine 5:41, Another Day 5:04, Friends 4:27, Call On Me 3:34, Together We Can Do It All 5:37, Out Of This World 3:49, Only A Dream 5:36, Shallow Grave 5:37, Falling 4:01, Sunshine (Reprise) 3:23, The Long Way 7:01. The Slovenian collective Komputer, formed by three designers and videographic artists residing in Milan (Italy), played in Barcelona (Nitsa club) in May 9th, the ticket price was 1500 pts. (aprox. $10). DER AUTOMAT ® # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM Subject: Re: (kw) new shirts available Date: 22 May 1998 04:20:11 EDT isn't it "FBI and Scotland Yard" ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM Subject: Re: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 22 May 1998 04:28:28 EDT The clip is definitely from the BBC's science programme "Tomorrow's World", which I remember watching as a kid. I think it used to be on before 'Top of the Tops' or 'Doctor Who'. It has since also been shown on 'The Rock'nRoll Years', a successful trawl through TV archives from the 50's to the 90's. The story about the playable jacket lapels is true: After the film of KW performing the presenter does indeed state that the next development of the instrumentation will be to do away with it and instead play the lapels of their jackets. I can only assume that this is one of KW having a little fun with some gullible BBC researchers. Their sense of humour is once again apparent. Alternatively, considering Future Music's article on Wolfgang's home-made triggering devices (the 'bacofoil & knitting needle' drum pads and the light box), KW may well have considered, designed or even actually made these 'interactive jackets'. Wolfgang states in the interview in Future Music that a lot of stuff was made but never used. The KlingKlang storeroom must be a veritable treasure trove ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 22 May 1998 10:32:24 +0100 >The story about the playable jacket lapels is true: After the >film of KW performing the presenter does indeed state >that the next development of the instrumentation will be >to do away with it and instead play the lapels of their >jackets. check out: http://www.unl.ac.uk/~jon/kraftwerk/1000/tw.ra it's a right larf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Craig Land" Subject: Re: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 22 May 1998 11:12:36 +0100 >http://www.unl.ac.uk/~jon/kraftwerk/1000/tw.ra > >it's a right larf. Is that Raymond Baxter naming a tune called Out-o-ban?!!!!! Brings back the memories doesn't it! Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Craig Land" Subject: (kw) Query Date: 22 May 1998 11:14:29 +0100 Does anyone remember a Robotic dance duo called Photostat? They were around in the 80's and I think they released a single, not too sure about an album release though. They also did a TV commercial for Amstrad stereo systems. Cheers, Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM Subject: Re: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 22 May 1998 06:20:41 EDT In a message dated 22/05/98 09:33:11 GMT, you write: << www.unl.ac.uk/~jon/kraftwerk/1000/tw.ra >> What a buzz... the basic synth sound is so shitty it's untrue but the rhythm track sounds great ! It's a real relic that one. It should be treasured. Has anyone got the video of the full performance ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: anznthomz@mindspring.com Subject: (kw) Intro & NYC Show Tickets Date: 22 May 1998 11:03:53 -0400 (EDT) Hi. My name is Anne and I just joined the list a few days ago. Wanted to introduce myself and say hi to everyone else on the list. HI. I also wondered if tickets for the NYC show were only available through the venue or if some ticket service was carrying them, i.e., the dreaded "Ticketmaster" for instance. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 22 May 1998 16:45:57 +0100 >>http://www.unl.ac.uk/~jon/kraftwerk/1000/tw.ra > Is that Raymond Baxter naming a tune called Out-o-ban?!!!!! > >Brings back the memories doesn't it! Yeah, good old Raymond - he was a W.W.II flying ace did you know? I was only four or five years old the first time that clip was shown and have no recollection of it, however my parents remember it - my mother in particular thought that Kraftwerk were really 'creepy'. hehehehe - it must have made quite an impact for them to remember it over twenty years later! The clip (or, I suspect, an edited version of it) was shown as part of 'the rock and roll years' series - it's a video recording of that episode that I made the realaudio from. There's an hilarious part right at the end when Florian looks up to the camera and displays a broad grin! Afterwards I'm sure Ralf reprimanded him severely... :-) There were some video grabs of the sequence knocking about on the web a while back, but I can't find the page now - URL anyone? jon alsbury i want to die in my sleep like my grandfather ... not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) Intro & NYC Show Tickets Date: 22 May 1998 12:26:03 anznthomz@mindspring.com wrote: >Hi. My name is Anne and I just joined the list a few days ago. Wanted to >introduce myself and say hi to everyone else on the list. Hi Anne, nice to have you on board with us. Read the list with one eye open and you'll find it can be quite pleasant at times! =) >I also wondered if tickets for the NYC show were only available through the >venue or if some ticket service was carrying them, i.e., the dreaded >"Ticketmaster" for instance. Yes, you can purchase tix for the NYC gig through dreaded Ticketmaster outlets if need be, as well as the Hammerstein Ballroom's box office itself. See you at the NYC show, Anne! -- Scott M. Barnhill nebulous@erols.com #Kraftwerk, IRC's DALnet "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Pitt Subject: Re: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 22 May 1998 10:11:00 +0100 >>>>>>>> The story about the playable jacket lapels is true: After the film of KW performing the presenter does indeed state that the next development of the instrumentation will be to do away with it and instead play the lapels of their jackets. I can only assume that this is one of KW having a little fun with some gullible BBC researchers. Their sense of humour is once again apparent. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< I cannot say for certain but the dummies on the inner sleeve pics on ComputerWorld appear to be wearing what could be described as lapel mounted switches. Mike. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jon Alsbury, Electronic Information Systems x2010" Subject: Re: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 22 May 1998 10:30:47 +0100 >The story about the playable jacket lapels is true: After the film of KW >performing the presenter does indeed state that the next development of the >instrumentation will be to do away with it and instead play the lapels of >their jackets. check out: http://www.unl.ac.uk/~jon/kraftwerk/1000/tw.ra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gans allein" Subject: Re: (kw) ROBOT shouldn't sell her synth Date: 22 May 1998 08:03:17 PDT >Are there no philanthropists on the KW list? >ROBOT is a KW institution! > >I'm feeling magnaminous. I'll put the first $20 >into the hat. Nine more philanthropists....? > >I'll throw in $40. I've never seen a more devoted fan. >ROBOT, the check is in the mail (seriously!) > >7 more please. > > >$20 here. 6 more. > WOW! I had no idea my email would bring about such generosity! Nobody can say that KW fans aren't HUMAN... Well ROBOT, here's $20 more toward the cause... 5 more people please and ROBOT can keep her synth AND see KW! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) New Order secret gig Date: 19 May 1998 00:43:52 +0100 It may interest the list to know New order are playing a secret show at Manchester Apollo on July 16th 1998. tickets are 21.75 and all standing tickets have sold out but seating is still available at the moment... (6-30 Friday night).... and I'm Going! -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SPINmc Subject: (kw) unable to read post from "robot@humbolt.1..." Date: 22 May 1998 13:36:14 EDT Would the list member whose email address begins with these characters and who wrote me re: my post "new member working on KW article for spin" please try again. Thanks. Richard Wheeler # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jose Garcia" Subject: (kw) Interviews for this tour? Date: 22 May 1998 23:25:40 +0000 I don't think KW will give interviews to the press. This was asked some weeks ago, but no one replied. If KW were conceding interviews fot this tour, what could be the questions? If there's no new album, I cannot think of any questions. I mean, the only question, "when will the new...", would be the only one. They wouldn't be replying to questions from the past. And, if you could interview F. Kevorkian, who has remixed KW songs Tour de France and Radioactivity, what would you ask? Jose # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "FRANK X. CORDERO" Subject: (kw) Rock the crowd Date: 22 May 1998 22:31:15 -0700 Played "Planet Rock" Electric Mix-(remember?) last night....and I rocked the dance crowd. The boys mixed this one back in 91-92..anyone have the vinyl version.? I used my Gemini CD mixer to mix this gem...but whoa.......the sound...the mix...the clarity! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "FRANK X. CORDERO" Subject: (kw) Thanks to ROBOT! Date: 22 May 1998 22:40:03 -0700 Thanks for the fashion tip...I forgot about the grey slacks! Found 3 black skinny ties, 3 grey slacks and 2 red french collar shirts...(for my friends in Beverly Hills)...I'm throwing this out....can we all meet for a group photo? (Hollywood Palladium 06.08.98) I'm counting the days! One thing boggles me....of all the photos of the MM era....what kind of shoes were they wearing....loafers? You never really see them in the photos. I nominate ROBOT for KRAFTWERK QUEEN....DO I HEAR I SECOND TO THE MOTION? DJFRANKX http://members.tripod.com/~DJFRANKX/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: (kw) Found something...good for a chuckle anyway Date: 23 May 1998 03:05:20 EDT Discovered a website where people have sent in submissions where they misunderstood lyrics for songs: www.kissthisguy.com The name comes from someone who thought Jimi Hendrix was singing "`scuse me while I kiss this guy" when he was really singing "`scuse me while I kiss the sky" Anyway, I found this there. This is an edited HTML page, so forgive me if it looks funny... Kraftwerk Autobahn The real lyrics were: Wir fahr'n, fahr'n fahr'n auf der Autobahn But I misheard them as: The fog, fog, fog, off the household fog The embarrasing moment of revelation: I think I finally realized it when I read that they were a German group and were singing in German. I _knew_ my lyrics made no sense... Age when I realized how wrong I had been: 13 Misheard by: David Bill Dobiesz N8TLC "Huggy Bear" n8tlc@juno.com FidoNet 1:120/650 ITCnet 85:871/851 LifestylesNet 66:1810/101 ICQ UIN 7298861 np: Silver Apples - Fantasy _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) Thanks to ROBOT! Date: 23 May 1998 01:53:14 -0600 (MDT) On Fri, 22 May 1998, FRANK X. CORDERO wrote: > Thanks for the fashion tip...I forgot about the grey slacks! Found 3 black > skinny ties, 3 grey slacks and 2 red french collar shirts...(for my friends > in Beverly Hills)...I'm throwing this out....can we all meet for a group > photo? (Hollywood Palladium 06.08.98) I'm counting the days! One thing > boggles me....of all the photos of the MM era....what kind of shoes were > they wearing....loafers? You never really see them in the photos. I > nominate ROBOT for KRAFTWERK QUEEN....DO I HEAR I SECOND TO THE MOTION? > DJFRANKX > http://members.tripod.com/~DJFRANKX/index.html I second the motion, but I think a better title would be "Queen of all things Krafty". :) /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 23 May 1998 01:04:43 +0200 >box), KW may well have considered, designed or even actually made these >'interactive jackets'. Wolfgang states in the interview in Future Music that well, Laurie Anderson (the most brilliant living woman) used such devices in her performance. I saw her. I actualy talked to her, and have picture with her and bring red roses to her (http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3041 and then search in the Interviste section)... I guess I could very well be the ROBOT of a Laurie Anderson list... (there is an alt.fan.LaurieAnderson or something ng but is not very active). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 23 May 1998 10:04:15 -0700 lbo sez: >I guess I could very well be the ROBOT of a Laurie Anderson list... (there is an alt.fan.LaurieAnderson or something ng but is not very active).< *HeeHee* I guess you have pictures of her all over your walls and you dream about her every night, eh? Laurie Anderson IS brilliant! It's really nice that you got to meet her. Nice page! Dang, I wish I could read Italian. Molto buene! -(sp?)- More stuff.... -(FRANK X. CORDERO sez:)- >> Thanks for the fashion tip...I forgot about the grey slacks! -(SNIP)- >>I nominate ROBOT for KRAFTWERK QUEEN....DO I HEAR I SECOND TO THE MOTION? -(Ra replies:)- >I second the motion, but I think a better title would be "Queen of all things Krafty". :)< ROTFLM@O!! -(Rolling On The Floor Laughing My @$$ Off)- You guys are too much. What I REALLY need are some winning Lottery numbers and a few shot guns to keep the bill collectors away. I don't want to go against anyone's wishes, but, even with all you wonderful people's contributions, I'm still going to have to sell my ENSONIQ -(and anything else of value that hasn't already been stolen)- so we can recoup our losses and get some bills paid AND have money for KRAFTWERK. I'm sorry I said anything at all. I'm grateful, but- I know I'm not the only one who's in dire straights. -("Money for nothing", indeed.)- I can't be selfish. I really want EVERYone to be able to see KW. As much as I love them, I'm no more "deserving" than anyone else. I'm just KraZier and more obsessed, that's all.*TWEAK*. PS: Somebody was asking about the shoes they wear. Some article -(or Bussy's book)- mentioned "gray shoes", but, it didn't say what kind. I'd say black or gray loafers or oxford-type lace-ups with matching socks would suffice. Keep the footwear simple/neutral and neat & comfortable. -(Tennies? nah-h.)- The red shirt black tie & grey slacks is the main thing for "effect". Ofcourse, they wear plain all-black now, but, the M.M fashion is so KlassiK! Oh, to be young & slender again.... ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: abzug Subject: Re: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 23 May 1998 20:28:08 +0100 >I nominate ROBOT for KRAFTWERK QUEEN....DO >I HEAR I SECOND TO THE MOTION? no, that was a bowel motion :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TPURE Subject: (kw) Robot's ESQ-1 Date: 23 May 1998 15:57:28 EDT In a message dated 5/23/98 5:08:20 PM, you wrote: << I don't want to go against anyone's wishes, but, even with all you wonderful people's contributions, I'm still going to have to sell my ENSONIQ -(and anything else of value that hasn't already been stolen)- so we can recoup our losses and get some bills paid AND have money for KRAFTWERK.>> Let me know when you plan to sell it, I've been thinking of buying one to replace the one I sold a few years back. I'll be in CA for the SF & LA shows, so I could stop by & take a look. tIMPURE # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM Subject: Re: (kw) Interviews for this tour? Date: 24 May 1998 05:19:43 EDT I would ask Kevorkian hoe difficult it was to work "with" KW, how much control they exerted over sounds, etc. that made it into his mix. Were they total controlfreaks who made n stipulations or did they just give him a DAT lay-off of the tracks and say "mach damit was du willst". I'd also ask him if he thinks Bill Orbit's 12" mix of Radio Activity is better ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: **************** Subject: RE: (kw) Interviews for this tour? Date: 04 Jan 1998 23:43:30 -0000 >I would ask Kevorkian hoe difficult it was to work "with" KW, how much control they exerted over sounds, etc. that made it into his mix.< I personally would ask Kervorkian why the 'Godfathers of Techno' needed a mixer like him in the first place. mode.123 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: abzug Subject: Re: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 24 May 1998 12:59:34 +0100 >The story about the playable jacket lapels is true: After the film >of KW performing the presenter does indeed state that the next >development of the instrumentation will be to do away with it >and instead play the lapels of their jackets. > >I can only assume that this is one of KW having a little fun with >some gullible BBC researchers. Their sense of humour is once >again apparent. > there's a good chance that if enough of us write in we could get the BBC to dig the complete performance out of the archives, particularly if you qualify the request with something along the lines of 'kraftwerk have had a massive influence contemporary electronic pop music, were musical pioneers in so many ways, and you had them on tomorrows world first!'. ;) go to the following URL for more details: http://www.bbc.co.uk/tw/timemachine/ jon alsbury i want to die in my sleep like my grandfather ... not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car. www.unl.ac.uk/~jon/kraftwerk/1000/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 24 May 1998 09:55:48 +0500 On 24-May-98, abzug wrote: >>The story about the playable jacket lapels is true: After the film >>of KW performing the presenter does indeed state that the next >>development of the instrumentation will be to do away with it >>and instead play the lapels of their jackets. It's been done! I remember seeing a segment on some news-magazine show or other about a woman who had designed a line of clothing with sensors attached that would play pre-recorded samples (including drums) when tapped. The shirts had no lapels-- they were more like sweatshirts-- but the principle is the same... :-) ----- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Knight Subject: Re: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 24 May 1998 11:32:03 +0000 I saw Robin Willams Giving an inteview on some talk show for the Movie "TOYS" HE had a jacket that when moved Certian ways it would tiogger different instrumnets. Hey How about we all get a CHAT night together ? Pick A night & a Time Eric Knight # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: telematik@juno.com (tel ematik) Subject: (kw) New Member Date: 24 May 1998 14:34:48 EDT I am new to this list and I am going to see Kraftwerk June 11th in Detroit. Being from Detroit I kind of grew up on Kraftwerk, because the radio stations play them alot here. Most of the techno and Electro from here is heavily influenced by kraftwerk like Will Web, Aux88, Drexciya, Ectomorph and even the bigger names like Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Plastikman (Richie Hawtin) and Carl Craig. As I understand, the Miami scene is in great debt to Kraftwerk as well. Anyways I just wanted to post my introduction to this list. thanks _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colatina Radio Som Ltda." <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) video "tomorrow world" Date: 24 May 1998 17:43:45 -0300 Hi my friends. This is rarity: I have the video (only two minutes) of the Kraftwerk performing "Autobahn" at "Tomorrow World" program. The image & sound quality is very good. I have, too, clips of the others songs, like The Model, Trans-Europe Express and Pocket Calculator. These material are available for trade. Offers ?? When Kraftwerk playing in Brasil ??????? Tchau !! Eduardo Monteiro 97fm@colatina.com.br # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Radioactive `Jack' Kevorkian Mix" Subject: (kw) TEE Date: 22 May 1998 23:29:17 -0500 T.E.E. (Chicago Mix) The Evanston Express The Evanston Express The Evanston Express The Evanston Express The Evanston Express The Evanston Express The Evanston Express The Evanston Express Rendezvous on Linden Av. Leave Wilmette in the morning on T.E.E. The Evanston Express The Evanston Express The Evanston Express The Evanston Express At Howard Street we queue on a late '50's wooden platform Straight connection, T.E.E. The Evanston Express The Evanston Express The Evanston Express The Evanston Express >From station to station back to Washington station Meet Oprah Winfrey and Richard Daley The Evanston Express The Evanston Express The Evanston Express The Evanston Express The Evanston Express # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Marcus Fjellström" Subject: (kw) For Swedes only Date: 23 May 1998 14:36:05 +0200 (As this is non-relevant for non-Swedes, it is written in Swedish:) Jag antar att det finns en hel del svenskar som tänker vallfärda till Roskilde för att få en skymt av legenderna, innan chansen för alltid är förbigången. Jag är en av dem som verkligen vill ner och se dem, men tyvärr har jag inte den bästa ekonomin. Vad jag undrar, är: Ska Sveriges werkers på något sätt samlas, eller samåka? Jag bor långt uppe i norr och är därför inte i den bästa av situationer vad gäller att ta sig ner till Danmark. (Malmö rules... :-) Och även om det inte ska organiseras något... hur har ni, individuellt, planerat resan? All hjälp i form av svar uppskattas. Tack! /Marcus Björn Marcus Fjellström (marcopop@hem.passagen.se) Der Telefon Anruf: +46 (0)950 66893 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Thanks to ROBOT! Date: 23 May 1998 13:04:50 +0200 >boggles me....of all the photos of the MM era....what kind of shoes were Ralf was wearing 70's high heels clogs because Florian was taller than him, infact Florian is barefoot. Karl is on white cordura sneakers and Wolfgang with army boots. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) Emanuel shouldn't sell his body... Date: 25 May 1998 03:28:56 +0200 On 22-Maj-98 A.D., Gans allein carved the following runes about "Re: (kw) ROBOT shouldn't sell her synth": >> Are there no philanthropists on the KW list? >> ROBOT is a KW institution! >> >> I'm feeling magnaminous. I'll put the first $20 >> into the hat. Nine more philanthropists....? >> >> I'll throw in $40. I've never seen a more devoted fan. >> ROBOT, the check is in the mail (seriously!) >> >> 7 more please. >> >> $20 here. 6 more. >> > WOW! I had no idea my email would bring about such generosity! Nobody > can say that KW fans aren't HUMAN... > > Well ROBOT, here's $20 more toward the cause... > 5 more people please and ROBOT can keep her synth AND see KW! I suppose I'd better take the opportunity while people are still feeling generous/rich/gullible/whatever: Anybody want to make a starving student's Kraftwerk pilgrimage to Roskilde, Denmark a reality? Besides, this is only $130! And I'm devoted too... Guess I should cut my hair and get a job... ;^D *LOL* -- E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco DuBose Subject: (kw) Re: Playable clothing Date: 24 May 1998 21:23:12 -0500 Laurie Anderson used to play a tie which looked like a piano keyboard. It was a somewhat popular tie at the time and she had rigged it up to trigger a synth. Marco >The story about the playable jacket lapels is true: After the film of KW >performing the presenter does indeed state that the next development of the >instrumentation will be to do away with it and instead play the lapels of >their jackets. > >I can only assume that this is one of KW having a little fun with some >gullible BBC researchers. Their sense of humour is once again apparent. -- Vist my Johnny Lightning sale page: http://home.earthlink.net/~mdubose/jlpage.html or my homepage: http://home.earthlink.net/~mdubose # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Read Subject: (kw) 1999 Tour Gossip Date: 25 May 1998 18:05:21 +1000 I have heard this today from a usually reliable source who has been in the music industry many years (my brother). A music festival in Australia called 'The Big Day Out' is finalising the line up for next year which will include Kraftwerk. The festival will be in Sydney on 26/01/1999 and probably tour the other main cities in the country. I have been told that this is not confirmed. but is 'looking good'. And this is after I organised my trip to Japan........:-) Adam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 25 May 1998 16:26:36 +0000 lbo wrote: > > well, Laurie Anderson (the most brilliant living woman) ... Are you kidding ? She can barely sing, her lyrics are crap (example : "the language is a virus from outer space") and she lives with Lou Reed... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Roskilde newsletter (fwd) Date: 25 May 1998 17:05:48 +0200 (DFT) Excerpt from the most recent Roskilde Festival newsletter, English language version: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- ROSKILDE FESTIVAL May 14th 1998 NEWSLETTER No. 08/98 CLEAR VIEW FROM THE PINNACLE OF ROSKILDE - Roskilde Festival presents diverse quality. Roskilde Festival recently released the poster for this summer's event. It only takes a few lines' reading from the top, and you feel you have already travelled the contemporary musical universe more than once. Legends are there (Kraftwerk, Black Sabbath, Iggy Pop, Bob Dylan, a.o.), younger mainacts are there (The Beastie Boys, The Verve, Garbage, Pulp, a.o.), techno influenced biggies are there (Portishead, Primal Scream, A Tribe Called Quest, Pizzicato Five), new heavies are there (Marilyn Manson, Deftones, Rammstein, Max Cavalera's Soulfly, a.o.), young poppers are there (Finley Quaye, Eagle-Eye Cherry a.o.), female front figures are there (Tori Amos, Lisa Ekdahl, Hanne Boel, Meredith Brooks, a.o.). The list of goodies seems endless. A total of app. 150 bands of high quality over 4 days - for the price of a couple of stadium tickets. The list of bands is very long and very impressive this year. No wonder that the tickets are selling. [...] KRAFTWERK Sensationally, Roskilde Festival has also announced the appearance of KRAFTWERK, who are playing on June 25th with their entire technological set-up. Kraftwerk started out in 1970, but the band has always been light years ahead of its time, and it has been a trendsetter for computer-compiled music. Through many years now, Kraftwerk has only appeared live on rare occasions, and the band has only announced two concerts for summer '98, one of which is at Roskilde. [...] INFORMATION about Roskilde '98 is being churned out in a steady flow. The Roskilde Festival web sites are updated several times a week at www.roskilde-festival.dk, and MTV text page 575 also brings fresh news. These sources provide fresh festival features and updates to the printed media. TICKETS are sold all through spring, until June 24 (or until they sell out). Some addresses in Europe are: Finland ELMU R.Y., Ylioppilastiketti, and KILROY travels (Helsinki), Rockadillo Production (Tampere), Musiikkinurkka (Turku) Holland Nieuwe Muziekhandel and KILROY travels (Amsterdam), Kaartenhuis (Delft), Buro Pinkpop (Geleen), De Cirkel (Groningen) Belgien Metrophone (Antwerpen), Music Mania (Bruxelles), Music Mania (Gent), GigaSwing (Hasselt), Music Mania (Leuven) Best regards, ROSKILDE FESTIVAL '98 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) intro Date: 25 May 1998 19:24:30 +0200 Welcome to the list. To find some proof about new material, check out http://petenet.dragonfire.net/kw/index.html /Joakim -----Original Message----- Sent: den 21 maj 1998 20:28 News of this tour comes as a shock. The Kraftwerk story a recent Goldmine alluded to new material but I haven't found any evidence of it yet. Can anyone out there supply answers? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) New Member Date: 25 May 1998 08:03:12 EDT On Sun, 24 May 1998 14:34:48 EDT telematik@juno.com (tel ematik) writes: > I am new to this list and I am going to see Kraftwerk June 11th in >Detroit. Being from Detroit I kind of grew up on Kraftwerk, because >the radio stations play them alot here. Huh? I've lived in Detroit all my life (I'm 38), I was born here...aside from the WWWW "Overseas Operator" show (this was before they sold out to country, so you know how long ago that was). I do remember they played Autobahn and Pocket Calculator, but other than that, the Detroit airwaves have been devoid of Kraftwerk. Tell me, WHAT stations play Kraftwerk around here? I certainly havent found any. Maybe the last couple of weeks of WLBS after they ditched the disco, and before they became WKSG. Take care, Bill Dobiesz N8TLC "Huggy Bear" n8tlc@juno.com The Bearsville BBS (810) 582-9429 FidoNet 1:120/650 ITCnet 85:871/851 LifestylesNet 66:1810/101 ICQ UIN 7298861 np: The Doors - Waiting For The Sun _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Spedding Subject: Re: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 25 May 1998 19:32:49 +0100 >Are you kidding ? She can barely sing, her lyrics are crap (example : >"the language is a virus from outer space") and she lives with Lou >Reed... > >jbv That phrase is a quote from William Burroughs, who also appears to dance, as best he can, in her concert video! I think she is rather good. -- Philip Spedding # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jseifert@technologist.com (Jules Seifert) Subject: Re: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 25 May 1998 18:25:17 GMT jbv wrote: >Are you kidding ? She can barely sing, her lyrics are crap (example : >"the language is a virus from outer space") and she lives with Lou=20 >Reed... Truly shocking.....;-) ciao, Jules Seifert The Voice of Energy!! #Kraftwerk IRC homepage:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ No:- 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christoph Marquardt" Subject: RE: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 25 May 1998 19:45:46 +0200 > > lbo wrote: > > > > well, Laurie Anderson (the most brilliant living woman) ... > > Are you kidding ? She can barely sing, her lyrics are crap (example : > "the language is a virus from outer space") and she lives with Lou > Reed... > > jbv wow, hard stuff that. ... even though I'm looking forward to meet you in SF, jbv (I really am :)) ... it looks like we shouldn't bring up the "Laurie Anderson" topic during that weekend .. we might end up in an argument :) Did you ever have the chance to see Laurie Anderson's performance "Home of the Brave"? You can get it on video. That's what made me want to see/hear more from her. And when it comes to Lou Reed ... same story as above (and note my signature) Best regards, Christoph -- "If it has more than three chords, it's jazz." -- Lou Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PRODUKT 01 Subject: (kw) Sonar Date: 25 May 1998 14:44:27 EDT Anyone have any idea what this means ??? Auditorio CCCB (SonarCinema) 12.00 Angelic Conversation 13.20 G3G THIS********* 13.50 Kraftwerk*********THIS 14.05 Berlin 14.55 Onedotzero-2 15:50 Retrovisión 16.20 On/Off TV 16:30 Slo-Tech 17.05 Animación Digital 17:40 Vinylists 18:05 Onedotzero-1 19:00 Spot TV 19:05 Beyond Ultra-Violence 20:20 Naturalists Also they will be screening Modulations at 17.30 on the 18th this is a very interesting film about the history of Electronic music Anyone have any problems ordering three day tix? I have put in the order but they have not even confirmed yet ! What more could you ask for Kraftwerk and Pan-sonic/Panasonic Even Plastikman! on the same night :) .........maybe Autechre and Suicide Nah its GOOD enough perhaps too good # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 25 May 1998 22:11:31 +0000 Philip Spedding wrote : > That phrase is a quote from William Burroughs, who also appears to > dance, as best he can, in her concert video! OK, let's put it again : She can barely sing, her lyrics are crap, she quotes William Burroughs and she lives with Lou Reed... Christoph Marquardt wrote : > ... even though I'm looking forward to meet you in SF, jbv (I really am :)) Don't forget the red carpet... And the brass band ! > ... it looks like we shouldn't bring up the "Laurie Anderson" topic > during that weekend .. we might end up in an argument :) he he he... with the help of jetlag, I might get even more virulent... > Did you ever have the chance to see Laurie Anderson's performance > "Home of the Brave"? You can get it on video. Yep. Have seen her live several times. Actually, I discovered her in 1977, with the 2 pieces on the LP "New Music for Electronic and Recorded Media" (actually, the less interesting pieces of that album featuring compositions by various female emusic composers). Honestly, the only times she got some inspiration was for "O Superman" (she's living on that success since 1980) and the 2 last songs on "Strange Angels". I also remember an interview in Option Mag. circa 89 / 90 in which she was saying that during the mix sessions of Strange Angels, she went shopping, while Bob Clearmountain and others did all the job. Pathetic. Jules Seifert wrote: > > Truly shocking.....;-) Actually, I was finding the list a bit sleepy lately... Just wanted to bring some entertainment... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) New Member Date: 25 May 1998 23:02:20 EDT On Mon, 25 May 1998 16:32:44 EDT telematik@juno.com (tel ematik) writes: ><havent found any. Maybe the last couple of weeks of WLBS after they >ditched the disco, and before they became WKSG.>> >I've never heard of those stations. The ones that do play kraftwerk >are WJLB,WCHB, Well, let's see...where I work at, I am the only white person on my shift, and WJLB and WCHB are played extensively. Between the hip-hop, rap and "young people of color in love" music, I don't think I've heard any... >CIMX (only at night), I stand corrected - I HAVE heard Kraftwerk on CJOM (CJOM is now CIMX) CJOM used to get pretty wild - I remember one time I heard them play "Magical Misery Tour" by the National Lampoon - the uncensored version...I couldn't believe what was coming out of my speakers! But I'll give them the nod anyway. I've just never heard anything on there... >WDET DET plays about anything...but you have to know their schedule. One time you tune in they're playing some great low-down blues, next time they're playing Celtic zither music...oh well, I do love The Arkansas Traveler... >and most of the college stations (cjam, worb, woux). I've never heard them...you must live in a different neighborhood. Although that DOES give me an idea!! Request more Kraftwerk from WPHS! (Warren's BEST radio station!) >Are you sure we live in the same Detroit? We must...I bet you're a bit younger than I, though. Where do you live? I'm in Warren - in the shadow of the GM Tech center, directly behind the new Wal-Mart (under construction). Anyway, I look forward to seeing you at the concert! Bill Dobiesz N8TLC "Huggy Bear" n8tlc@juno.com The Bearsville BBS (810) 582-9429 FidoNet 1:120/650 ITCnet 85:871/851 LifestylesNet 66:1810/101 ICQ UIN 7298861 np: Silver Apples - Lovelights _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Leonard R. Cleavelin" Subject: Re: (kw) ROBOT shouldn't sell her synth Date: 25 May 1998 22:43:36 -0500 At 01:26 PM 5/21/98 -0700, ROBOT wrote: >Don't forget- there are plenty of OTHER Fans in need- like HeatherD in >Arkansas- she needs transportation, etc, and Greg Smith had a ride to >Chicago but they flaked out on him.*ARGH*. I hope we can all help each >other out for EVerybody's sake. I'm honored that so many people want >to help me- but, please, spread it around. I'm not alone in being >"needy", and it's really embarrassing to be this poor, believe me. -(I >hope JBV gets another project soon to make up for the $10,000 gig he >gave up to attend the US Konzerts. Even rich people have made great >sacrifices. Thanks again, JBV, for your help!*SMOOCH*!)- Thank you >EVeryone! Please help others as well, if you can. Harambi! -(Swahili)- >"Let's pull together". I'll repeat an offer I made earlier on list.... anyone needing a ride from the St. Louis area to Chicago on the day of the show, contact me off list at leonard@inlink.com. Best regards, Len Cleavelin -- Leonard R. Cleavelin e-mail: leonard@inlink.com (preferred) lcleavelin@solutechinc.com (work related) WWW: http://www.inlink.com/~leonard Never ascribe to malice what may be adequately explained by stupidity. *****FIGHT INTERNET SPAM! JOIN CAUCE ***** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Storey (Sossi)" Subject: (kw) Krafty Move! Date: 26 May 1998 16:19:59 +0930 Hi all! I just got my order from hotmail and part of the order had Electric Music new album........well what can I say but this is very disappointing, I scanned through the tracks and don't think I'll ever listen to it again! Are they trying to follow in the footsteps of ABC where they released "Lexicon of Love" and then released their second album "Beauty Stab" which was a total opposite to their first???? However ! one item I'm very impressed with and highly recommend , is "Krafty Move" an electronic tribute to Kraftwerk (2 CD). Do any other KW mailing list members have this and what do they think of it? I also love Komputer's Valentina (Probe) and (Danos)! Hey! any news on the new Kraftwerk album due to be released this year, or is this all talk? Bye Regards Chris Storey (Sossi) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DepecheCBI Subject: Re: (kw) Krafty Move! Date: 26 May 1998 12:39:36 EDT Hi! Chris Sossi wrote: < I just got my order from hotmail and part of the order had Electric Mus= ic < new album........well what can I say but this is very disappointing, I < scanned through the tracks and don't think I'll ever listen to it again= ! I only have "Call on me", but my reactions was quite the same. Very bad, = very=0Aboring. (it=B4s not the fact that he used (fake/sampled) guitars .= .. the music=0Ais just dull, though there are some neat melodies;) I think it=B4s a joke, but I can=B4t laugh. Shame on you, Karl! Try again= . < However ! one item I'm very impressed with and highly recommend , is < "Krafty Move" an electronic tribute to Kraftwerk (2 CD). Do any other K= W < mailing list members have this and what do they think of it? I own this "tribute", too, but I=B4m not VERY impressed...OK, some tracks= sound=0Agood, e.g. "Der Telefonanruf" (Welle:Erdball), "Showroom Dummies= " (Three=0AHyphen) or "The Man-Machine" (XCR), but that=B4s a matter of t= aste. It=B4s even better than the new Elec(!)tric Music stuff. Carsten Bolte. Kiel. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D halb wesen und halb (ueber)ding=0A # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Boccianti Luca Subject: R: (kw) Sonar Date: 26 May 1998 12:13:41 +0200 > .........maybe Autechre and Suicide > does suicide still play together? I recently bought an Alan Vega cd, but I have no news from Martin Rev, it seem he only released instrumental version of old suicide's songs. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Boccianti Luca Subject: R: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 26 May 1998 12:17:21 +0200 > > well, Laurie Anderson (the most brilliant living woman) ... > > Are you kidding ? > no no... > She can barely sing, her lyrics are crap (example : > "the language is a virus from outer space") > well, matter of tastes... I think she has a wonderful voice and I don't find them crap at all... > and she lives with Lou > Reed... > she WHAT? she did not tell me... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Boccianti Luca Subject: R: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 26 May 1998 12:26:04 +0200 > She can barely sing, her lyrics are crap, she quotes William Burroughs > > and she lives with Lou Reed... > and I like WB too... not in the same way, of course. > Honestly, the only times she got some inspiration was for "O Superman" > (she's living on that success since 1980) and the 2 last songs on > "Strange Angels". > c'mon, O Superman was just a divertissement, White Lily was a lot better. and she is a wonderful performer she put together many nice people. and she let me sneak in a sold out gig, that says all... apart this story with this Lou Reed, who is him? > I also remember an interview in Option Mag. circa 89 / 90 in which she > was saying that during the mix sessions of Strange Angels, she went > shopping, while Bob Clearmountain and others did all the job. > Pathetic. > aaah, listen... she use language in a dynamic way... she says so many things in a while that you should not follow what she literally says... and journalists are all crap, maybe she said that while Bob was mixing she went down to buy a sandwich... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jbv Subject: Re: R: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 26 May 1998 21:36:08 +0000 Boccianti Luca wrote: > and she let me sneak in a sold out gig, that says all...=20 in 1989, I got free VIP tickets for a Megadeth concert. But I don't=20 feel I have to be a fan of Megadeth. > this story with this Lou Reed, who is him? Just an obscure guitar player from NYC. > aaah, listen... she use language in a dynamic way... she says s= o > many things in a while that you should not follow what she literally > says...=20 She's a phoney. She compiled every possible hip clich=E9s & stereotypes from the so-called "avant-gaaaarde" or "experimental" scene from NYC. She even managed to fool such harmless old things as WB or JMJ... > and journalists are all crap, maybe she said that while Bob was > mixing she went down to buy a sandwich... No no no no ! I know what I'm saying (when I'm not sure, I don't quote). In that interview, she clearly explained that she wasn't interested in being in the studio for the mix. For instance, for a song like "the day=20 the devil..." she gave such "sophisticated" indications to Bob C. as "make it scary", and then she went shopping. In the same interview she also says that she took a few singing lessons before recording the vocal parts of that album. I also remember a short documentary on her a few years ago on Arte : she was inside her sophisticated home-studio, making some weird noises in a mike with her mouth and putting a very long delay on it. And facing the camera, she was saying : "that's a very long delay". I tell you : she's a phoney. jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: abzug Subject: Re: (kw) Sonar Date: 25 May 1998 21:35:27 +0100 >Anyone have any idea what this means ??? > > > Auditorio CCCB > (SonarCinema) > > 12.00 Angelic Conversation > 13.20 G3G > THIS********* 13.50 Kraftwerk*********THIS > 14.05 Berlin > 14.55 Onedotzero-2 fifteen whole minutes huh? wow guys, with this performance you're really spoiling us... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EJRSemiGod Subject: Re: R: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 26 May 1998 15:46:49 EDT In a message dated 98-05-26 15:05:49 EDT, Boccianti@asamrt.interbusiness.it writes: << > Honestly, the only times she got some inspiration was for "O Superman" > (she's living on that success since 1980) and the 2 last songs on > "Strange Angels". > c'mon, O Superman was just a divertissement, White Lily was a lot better. and she is a wonderful performer she put together many nice people. and she let me sneak in a sold out gig, that says all... apart this story with this Lou Reed, who is him? >> AAACCCKKK!!! NOW I KNOW WHO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!! I had to watch the video for "O Superman" in ART CLASS! If anyone needs/wants a copy of this, let me know, as I can get a copy.. Later! 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Thanks for visiting New York Sidewalk. Eric Etheridge, Executive Producer, New York Sidewalk http://newyork.sidewalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jbv Subject: Re: R: (kw) Sonar Date: 26 May 1998 22:06:05 +0000 Boccianti Luca wrote: > > does suicide still play together? I recently bought an Alan > Vega cd, but I have no news from Martin Rev, it seem he only released > instrumental version of old suicide's songs. They played a 10 min set a couple of months ago in London, and the rumor says they're working on a new album. Besides, Vega is preparing an album with finnish band Panasonic. They already released a 12" EP (I got it from HotStuff in Sweden) and I must confess that it's quite disapointing : sounds like a pathetic attempt to recreate Frankie Teardrop, but NYC is far away from Finland, to say the least... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Gystad Subject: (kw) Net record shops in the UK Date: 26 May 1998 15:17:51 +0200 Guten tag I was just wondering if any of you "Machine heads" can help me with a really good CD shop in the UK, which also purchase orders by e-mail. Here in Norway its completely impossible to get hands on Classix Nouveaux, Chicory Tip, Ultravox - Rage in eden f.ex Ohm, sweet Ohm Bill Gystad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dan k. williams" Subject: Re: (kw) New Member Date: 26 May 1998 21:04:56 +0100 Bill Dobiesz wrote: > > On Mon, 25 May 1998 16:32:44 EDT telematik@juno.com (tel ematik) writes: > >< >havent found any. Maybe the last couple of weeks of WLBS after they > >ditched the disco, and before they became WKSG.>> > > >I've never heard of those stations. The ones that do play kraftwerk > >are WJLB,WCHB, > > Well, let's see...where I work at, I am the only white person on my > shift, and WJLB and WCHB are played extensively. Between the hip-hop, > rap and "young people of color in love" music, I don't think I've heard > any... > > >CIMX (only at night), > Being an African American I take some offense at the statement above. I would advise the writer to use a little tack when stating his/her views. Some of us to not take well to misplaced/misinfromed sterotypes. Peace- dan- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paulo Mouat Subject: Re: (kw) Net record shops in the UK Date: 27 May 1998 03:45:29 +0100 Bill Gystad wrote: > > Guten tag > I was just wondering if any of you "Machine heads" can help me with a > really good CD shop in the UK, which also purchase orders by e-mail. > Here in Norway its completely impossible to get hands on Classix > Nouveaux, Chicory Tip, Ultravox - Rage in eden f.ex In the UK: http://www.imvs.com/ In Germany: http://www.TeleCD.com/english/index.html In France: http://www.fnac.fr -- __|__ ___\_/___ ___ Paulo Mouat, |___| mouat@mail.telepac.pt |___| http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/8804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "d. c A r t o" Subject: (kw) Trans - Pakistan - Express Date: 26 May 1998 22:23:42 -0700 There's a song by Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, the Pakistani singer of Qawwallis, that uses clips from "Trans Europe Express" in his song. Does anyone know what song this is? I heard it on the radio and it's really cool. Maybe someone knows and can tell me........ . . . . . . . . . .? See you at the WARFIELD! Thanks Michael aKa d. c A r t o www.c-zone.net/dcarto # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) Krafty Move! Date: 26 May 1998 06:53:37 EDT On Tue, 26 May 1998 16:19:59 +0930 "Chris Storey (Sossi)" writes: >However ! one item I'm very impressed with and highly recommend , >is"Krafty Move" an electronic tribute to Kraftwerk (2 CD). Do any other >KW mailing list members have this and what do they think of it? Someone else had mentioned this album...it sounds like something I should have in my collection, but I have checked with several record stores and none has been able to find it in their catalog. I would be most grateful if you could give me: 1) The full and complete title 2)The record label (company that made it) 3) The catalog number Armed with this, it should be obtainable... Thank you in advance! Bill Dobiesz N8TLC "Huggy Bear" n8tlc@juno.com FidoNet 1:120/650 ITCnet 85:871/851 LifestylesNet 66:1810/101 ICQ UIN 7298861 np: Spike Jones - That Old Black Magic _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Orjan Engstrom Subject: Re: (kw) Krafty Move! Date: 27 May 1998 08:59:10 +0200 The Kraftymove (ERCD 111) from Energy Rekords (SPV)is a 2CD and contains following trax: 1 1.01 Gieger Counter axiome 1.02 Der telefon anruf welle:ederball 1.03 Autobahn tragic comedy 1.04 Radio activity trylok 1.05 showroom dummies three hypen 1.06 taschenrechner balck wedding 1.07 the man machine xcr 1.08 antenna pshyce 1.09 numbers !AIBOFORCEN<-- 1.10 computer love larua effect 1.11 tour de france ionic vision 1.12 die roboter p.o.d 1.13 metal on metal fading colours 1.14 radio activity data bank a 1.15 electric cafe xingu hill 2 2.01 ohm sweet ohm apoptygma berzerk 2.02 showroom dummies leaether strip 2.03 computer liebe cradle of spoil 2.04 radio activity fiction 8 2.05 muik non stop oierrepoint 2.06 the model index 2.07 spacelab mental conquest 2.08 the telephone call the shining 2.09 das model nigra nebula 2.10 uranium battery 2.11 tour de france inertia 2.12 trans europe express limbo 2.13 tanzmuik imminent starvation Some of the trax are quite good and some are sooooo bad. Much of the material could be better Computerlove by laura effect and ohm sweet ohm by apoptygma berzerk is my favorite tunes =D6rjan 070-6957756( +46706957756) http://www.mds.mdh.se/~ing96oem/ UIN:707212 =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: (kw) Laurie Anderson Date: 26 May 1998 21:08:35 +0500 Actually it wasn't Laurie Anderson I had in mind in re those electronic clothes (they give a new meaning to the term 'loud tie'); this woman was a fashion designer. My own reaction to Laurie A. is sort of ambivalent; I like a lot of her music, but some of the conceptual stuff seems a bit cutesy and lightweight. She sometimes seems to use such private symbolism that she comes across as almost autistic-- or pretending to be. Whichever. I probably just don't get it. Wouldn't be the first time. ;-) -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "\" Shop smart. 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Thanks for visiting New York Sidewalk. Eric Etheridge, Executive Producer, New York Sidewalk http://newyork.sidewalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pontus Aratoun Subject: (kw) Tour posters Date: 27 May 1998 10:13:32 +0000 Hi! Do anyone know were to get concert posters from Japan and USA (is there any from Roskilde and Spain??).??????? I just got a record signed by Karl Bartos! I also have a 12" signed by Ralf Hütter. So now it´s just Wolfgang and Florian left to sign! Also I got hold of a Autobahn LP MADE IN INDIA 1973!!!! Anyone seen this before? Is this a official pressing? Enjoy the KW concerts!!! Pontus Aratoun # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM Subject: (kw) Laurie Anderson is a pile of donkey droppings Date: 27 May 1998 06:07:12 EDT Why the hell is everyone talking about Laurie Anderson ? Is this person important ? Can't we talk about something interesting and not US 'art' drivel... What about KW new album. Has anyone heard anything ? I'll be meeting some EMI execs in July. But by then we may all have a copy ? If we don't: what do you want me to ask them ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christoph Marquardt" Subject: RE: (kw) ROBOT shouldn't sell her synth Date: 27 May 1998 12:27:53 +0200 > > I'm feeling magnaminous. I'll put the first $20 into the hat. Nine more > philanthropists....? > There's $20 from me (ROBOT, you just remove it from the hotel cost, ok? *twinkle*) Christoph -- "If it has more than three chords, it's jazz." -- Lou Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christoph Marquardt" Subject: RE: (kw) ROBOT shouldn't sell her synth Date: 27 May 1998 12:31:08 +0200 > I'm feeling magnaminous. I'll put the first $20 into the hat. Nine more > philanthropists....? > > Marco Here's $20 from me (ROBOT, you just remove it from the hotel cost, ok? *twinkle*) Christoph -- "If it has more than three chords, it's jazz." -- Lou Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christoph Marquardt" Subject: RE: (kw) ROBOT shouldn't sell her synth Date: 27 May 1998 12:33:39 +0200 ooops ... seems like my mailer seems to want me pay 3 x $20 by sending out 3 mails :) just for clarification: it's 1 x $20 :)) Christoph -- "If it has more than three chords, it's jazz." -- Lou Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Schneider Subject: (kw) Auf Wiedersehen!!!! Date: 27 May 1998 13:05:21 +0000 It's the end of my Uni-course; so I have to leave the list and head off for the wilds of Leicestershire to do my MA. Auf Wiedersehen, guys. Hope you all have a great time at the KW-concert, and I hope that Robot manages to get there too. I'll log back on in the Autumn, until then - thanks for keeping the Elektrische Weltanschauung alive! regards, Jeff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PRODUKT 01 Subject: Re: (kw) Sonar Date: 27 May 1998 08:41:01 EDT I think this is only for video an cinema. The authentic Warkraft Show will be at 12:30 at nigth in Sonar Club (18th). I will be there. >> yes this much I gather but what sort of film is it? can it be a clip from a older preformance? Also how is everyone getting tix for Sonar? I still have no reply/confirm on my order. I guess the lines arnt open until june? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: R: (kw) Sonar Date: 27 May 1998 09:23:28 EDT On Tue, 26 May 1998 22:06:05 +0000 jbv writes: > >Besides, Vega is preparing an album with finnish band Panasonic. they are now called pan-sonic, after they got sued by you know who...not that it matters... tom w np: lemongrass - drumatic universe _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) New Member Date: 27 May 1998 02:26:53 EDT On Tue, 26 May 1998 21:04:56 +0100 "dan k. williams" writes: >Being an African American I take some offense at the statement above. My apologies. No offense was intended, and I did try to make it as tactful as I could. If you might know a better, non-offensive way to describe what I'm saying, please do tell. Personally, I do not like to use the term "African-American", unless the person really is. For example, I work with two men that were born in Nigeria - they are American citizens, and these guys I truly feel are "African Americans". Many of the...gee, what term can I use that isn't offensive - many people I work with strongly dislike the term "African American", and they much prefer the term "black" or "people of color". I was brought up to believe in the value of an indivual, regardless of what they are like on the outside, as it means very little about what they are like on the inside. People are people, and have different likes and dislikes...doesn't make anyone any better or worse. It is unfortunate that some people look at a white person and see them as potential Klansmen or Nazis. Myself, I have friends in many different shades, from many different backgrounds. None of us are so thin-skinned that we can't say what we're thinking. That's why we're friends. Again, I'm sorry if you found something I said offensive. Among those friends and aquaintences I deal with every day, nothing that I've mentioned would be considered offensive, >Some of us to not take well to misplaced/misinfromed sterotypes. Stereotypes work both ways too...don't assume that because something might be found annoying to you that any harm is meant by it. >Peace- Peace to you too! Bill Dobiesz N8TLC "Huggy Bear" (very lovable) n8tlc@juno.com FidoNet 1:120/650 ITCnet 85:871/851 LifestylesNet 66:1810/101 ICQ UIN 7298861 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Boccianti Luca Subject: R: (kw) Laurie Anderson is a pile of donkey droppings Date: 27 May 1998 12:00:05 +0200 > I'll be meeting some EMI execs in July. But by then we may all have a > copy ? > If we don't: what do you want me to ask them ? > will Laurie Anderson tour with K? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J.Prieto" Subject: Re: (kw) Sonar Date: 27 May 1998 12:12:44 +0100 (WET DST) On Mon, 25 May 1998, PRODUKT 01 wrote: >=20 > Anyone have any idea what this means ??? >=20 >=20 > Auditorio CCCB > (SonarCinema) >=20 > 12.00 Angelic Conversation > 13.20 G3G > THIS********* 13.50 Kraftwerk*********THIS > 14.05 Berlin > 14.55 Onedotzero-2 > 15:50 Retrovisi=F3n > 16.20 On/Off TV > 16:30 Slo-Tech > 17.05 Animaci=F3n Digital > 17:40 Vinylists > 18:05 Onedotzero-1 > 19:00 Spot TV > 19:05 Beyond Ultra-Violence > 20:20 Naturalists > =20 I think this is only for video an cinema. The authentic Warkraft Show will be at 12:30 at nigth in Sonar Club (18th). I will be there. The tickets will be for sale since first days of june. Bye. Juan Prieto- MuSiK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J.Prieto" Subject: Re: (kw) Sonar Date: 27 May 1998 15:05:05 +0100 (WET DST) On Wed, 27 May 1998, PRODUKT 01 wrote: > > I think this is only for video an cinema. > The authentic Warkraft Show will be at 12:30 at nigth in Sonar Club (18th). > I will be there. >> > > > yes this much I gather but what sort of film is it? can it be a clip from a > older preformance? Sorry, I don't know what will be that. > > Also how is everyone getting tix for Sonar? I still have no reply/confirm on > my order. > > I guess the lines arnt open until june? I went to a records store asking for Sonar tix, but they say me that now the tickets for the three days were only in Barcelona, but in June will be all arround. I don't know any more. I hope see all you there. (If you can, of couse.) :-))) Juan Prieto- MuSiK musik@cheerful.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Laurie Anderson is a pile of donkey droppings Date: 27 May 1998 18:48:27 +0000 MERSEYCHAM wrote: > > Why the hell is everyone talking about Laurie Anderson ? Because this is the Laurie Anderson mailing list, of course ! > Is this person important ? Of course, she is : she's got William Burroughs dancing in one of her videos, and she lives with Lou Reed ! And last but not least, she let Luca sneak in a sold out gig... > I'll be meeting some EMI execs in July. But by then we may all have a copy ? > If we don't: what do you want me to ask them ? Ask them when Laurie Anderson is going to release a new album... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gans allein" Subject: Re: (kw) Emanuel shouldn't sell his body... Date: 27 May 1998 09:34:16 PDT <> Hmm...any other philanthropists feeling generous who haven't donated? (E.g., people who live in cities that KW is visiting and thus don't have travel expenses...) <> There's an idea - Gans allein "First things first, but not necessarily in that order." - Doctor Who ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jbv Subject: (kw) Auf der Autobahn again Date: 27 May 1998 20:55:49 +0000 Hi Volks, It's time to leave with the band for that bloody tour. There's an old VW bus waiting in front of my door (with an "Atomkraft ? Nein, danke !" sticker at the back). Emil refurbished it with nice flashy colors, and Ralf is driving... Hope we'll reach Tokyo on time ! jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Ling Subject: (kw) Tibet98etc (long) Date: 27 May 1998 20:11:20 +-100 i am a technophobic KW fan-the worlds first?-so someone had to show me = how to do this. 1-i am going to all the gigs but havent got a ticket for washington.as a = journalist perhaps i could get a press one but id rather be with the = Werkers.can anyone help by selling one(or two)? 2-i have seen KW 8 times..1981 once,1991 four times(all = UK),tribal,linz,karlsruhe last year.i know someone who has reached the = teens. i dont want to sound competitive,but can anyone "beat" me? 3-i fly to san fran on june 1 but want to be in la on the friday prior = to that.does=20 anyone who might be in la but going to both want to car share or am i = being a naive brit forgetting you fly everywhere? 4-i recommend every KW fan buys Time Pie by Yamo.it is scintillating. 5-the KW book due out this summer will look at their influence on other = musics. 6-does anyone else share my belief that the "new" material is far from = finished? chris raistrick # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Daw Subject: Re: (kw) Live Video Clips Date: 27 May 1998 20:18:35 +0100 In message <01bd870b$6b357f20$875adec2@neox.demon.co.uk>, abzug writes >there's a good chance that if enough of us write in we could get the BBC to >dig the complete performance out of the archives, particularly if you >qualify the request with something along the lines of 'kraftwerk have had a >massive influence contemporary electronic pop music, were musical pioneers >in so many ways, and you had them on tomorrows world first!'. ;) go to the >following URL for more details: http://www.bbc.co.uk/tw/timemachine/ Tomorrows world are putting together another series of classic reports from the past 30 years. They showed an address to write to after the normal programme this evening. If somebody could find the address, then perhaps we could all write in and get them to show the Autobahn clip with Raymond Baxter. The series will also include a spot called "What Ever Happened To...?" perhaps they could reveal what Kraftwerk are up to now and whether they did actually get those musical jackets working! Simon -- Simon Daw simon_kraft@esteem.demon.co.uk http://www.esteem.demon.co.uk/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Tibet98etc (long) Date: 27 May 1998 21:29:50 +0000 Mark Ling wrote: > > 2-i have seen KW 8 times..1981 once,1991 four times(all UK),tribal,linz,karlsruhe last year.i know someone who has reached the teens. > i dont want to sound competitive,but can anyone "beat" me? Mmmmh... After the LA gig, I will have seen KW in 6 different countries (France, Switzerland, Austria, Germany, Japan, US). Can anyone "beat" me ? jbv PS : stupid question requires stupid answer... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) Tibet98etc (long) Date: 27 May 1998 16:42:36 jbv.silences@wanadoo.fr wrote: >Can anyone "beat" me ? Not sure, but I've spoken with several people who'd like to. ;-) >PS : stupid question requires stupid answer... Which requires yet another stupid question? Talk about endlos endlos! =) 17 days till KW take Manhattan! -- Scott M. Barnhill nebulous@erols.com #Kraftwerk, IRC's DALnet "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Read Subject: (kw) New Electric Music single Date: 28 May 1998 07:50:42 +1000 New on a list: ELECTRIK MUSIC Written, performed & produced by Karl Bartos (ex-Kraftwerk). Total groove pop!!! CALL ON ME [CDS] 9.99 (Available May 27th ) Adam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco DuBose Subject: (kw) Re: Laurie Anderson Date: 27 May 1998 21:47:56 -0500 Actually, "Language is a virus from outer space" is from William Burroughs. Marco > > well, Laurie Anderson (the most brilliant living woman) ... > >Are you kidding ? She can barely sing, her lyrics are crap (example : >"the language is a virus from outer space") and she lives with Lou >Reed... > >jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "MIDIBear" Subject: (kw) KW remixes, Laurie Anderson and other creative people Date: 27 May 1998 21:46:22 -0400 >However ! one item I'm very impressed with and highly recommend , is >"Krafty Move" an electronic tribute to Kraftwerk (2 CD). Do any other KW >mailing list members have this and what do they think of it? I have those and about 14 other KW mix CD's - IMHO Krafty Move is by far the best. The worst? Schoene neue welt. I feel that most of the KW remixes and covers lack originality and depth that the originals had - even stuff from THE MIX. There's nothing like the original 6 albums. And the pre-Autobahn stuff: it's just not KW, totally different and (I feel) sounds very dated. KW will always sound timeless. -------------- >> > well, Laurie Anderson (the most brilliant living woman) ... >> >> Are you kidding ? >> >no no... > >> She can barely sing, her lyrics are crap (example : >> "the language is a virus from outer space") >> >well, matter of tastes... I think she has a wonderful voice and >I don't find them crap at all... I've found that everyone has a different opinion of Laurie Anderson, and not always positive. No matter, even if she has 'sold out' or 'lost it' in recent days, nothing will ever change the impact that her early work had on me. I don't compare her voice to vocalists, as I put her 'performance art' in its own category. She doesn't conform anyway. Her Big Science, United States I-IV and Mister Heartbreak EDUCATED me in my high school days on being true to myself and believing in individuality. I don't listen to Strange Angels or Bright Red much, however, as I find them lacking compared to her early works. As for William Burroughs, I have IMMENSE respect for the man, and adore Naked Lunch. While I'm rambling, I may as well mention Richard James (Aphex Twin) who has also had a profound effect on my consciousness - truly 'honest' introverted music, IMHO. MIDIBear midibear@mich.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) SF Tickets now available!! Date: 27 May 1998 23:59:39 -0700 Warfield Tickets Alert!!!! *WhooOOP-WhooOOP* Priority One Message: I saw a message posted on the alt.musik.kraftwerk news group- BASS has released more KRAFTWERK Tickets for the San Fransisco show on June 7th! So, get yer @$$ to BASS and GRAB 'em NOW before they're REALLY gone!! :]]]] ROBOMEGASMILEY http://www.basstickets.net/ 510 762-2277 PS: Lee Warren , are you on this List?? You Emailed me a while back asking if my extra tickets were available and I regretably said no, but, now I can UNregretably say that there ARE more tickets after all! REJOICE!! You, too, MC-3PO! A couple of other people asked for my extras- well, now you CAN get tickets!! ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Laurie Anderson Date: 28 May 1998 04:20:18 EDT Am I living on another planet? Who the hell is Laurie Anderson ? Is this a person ? And if so: does anyone care ? CAN SOMEONE TELL ME ABOUT THE NEW KW ALBUM ?????????????? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Laurie Anderson Date: 28 May 1998 09:45:59 +0100 >Am I living on another planet? Who the hell is Laurie Anderson ? Is this a >person ? >And if so: does anyone care ? > >CAN SOMEONE TELL ME ABOUT THE NEW KW ALBUM ?????????????? seriously, you've never heard of laurie anderson? jesus.... sometimes i think there should be an entrance exam for this list BTW, what new kraftwerk album exactly? do you know something we don't? ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Laurie Anderson Date: 28 May 1998 12:29:16 +0100 MERSEYCHAM@aol.com wrote: > > Am I living on another planet? Who the hell is Laurie Anderson ? Is this a > person ? you must be living on another planet mersey, or are too young to remeber who she is...but, it's no problem, cos she was IMHO insignificant. > And if so: does anyone care ? nope > CAN SOMEONE TELL ME ABOUT THE NEW KW ALBUM ?????????????? > nope again ;-) Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: (kw) take NYC Date: 28 May 1998 10:39:02 EDT On Wed, 27 May 1998 16:42:36 "Scott M. Barnhill" writes: > >17 days till KW take Manhattan! > if anyone is looking for tickets feel free to contact me off list...tom w np: kw -schone neue welt _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EZwerk Subject: (kw) Simpsons Date: 28 May 1998 10:54:06 +0000 Hey all, Yesterday, my sister was watching an old Simpson episode and she said that (and I forget the plot to it) during one of the scenes, a german thief (??) is asking someone to hury up loading a truck as they "have to be in Stuttgard to see Kraftwerk." Anyone else seen that episode? Ernie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J.Prieto" Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Laurie Anderson Date: 28 May 1998 11:30:53 +0100 (WET DST) On Thu, 28 May 1998 MERSEYCHAM@aol.com wrote: > > CAN SOMEONE TELL ME ABOUT THE NEW KW ALBUM ?????????????? > I think that KW don't have new album by now. Bye. J.Prieto - MuSiK musik@cheerful.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dorthe Cohrs Subject: (kw) HI! Date: 28 May 1998 12:18:10 EDT Hi ! Just wanted to introduce myself (Wollte mich nur mal vorstellen) My Name is Dorthe but everybody calls me Diz (Ich heisse Doerthe, aber alle nennen mich Diz) I was born in Hamburg, am German, and study in Richmond, VA at the moment. (Ich bin 'ne Hamburger Deern, studiere aber zur Zeit in Richmond, VA, USA) I have been a fan of Kraftwerk for a long time, and am happy that I will be able to see them in New York soon. (Ich bin schon seit langem ein Fan von Kraftwerk, und freue mich darauf, sie bald in New York zu sehen.) Okay, that's it for now, hope to hear from you soon (Okay, das war's erstmal, hoffe bald von Euch zu hoeren.) Ciao, Diz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kotta" Subject: RE: (kw) Simpsons Date: 28 May 1998 19:40:32 +0200 Yepp, Saw it a couple of weeks ago. He had a pretty nice accent too. >Hey all, > >Yesterday, my sister was watching an old Simpson episode and she said >that (and I forget the plot to it) during one of the scenes, a german >thief (??) is asking someone to hury up loading a truck as they "have to >be in Stuttgard to see Kraftwerk." >Anyone else seen that episode? > >Ernie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Taping Roskilde Date: 28 May 1998 19:53:51 +0000 Is anyone planning to tape the Kraftwerk Roskilde gig? Please mail me privately. Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Bartos Interviews Date: 28 May 1998 19:53:51 +0000 The June issues of the German magazines Orkus and Zillo feature interviews with Karl Bartos. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Tour posters Date: 28 May 1998 19:53:51 +0000 > Do anyone know were to get concert posters from Japan and USA (is there > any from Roskilde and Spain??).??????? Roskilde poster: http://www.uradio.ku.dk/musik/roskilde98/poster.html The same design is also featured on the official flyer for the festival, which is available from the usual ticket agencies. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Sonar Date: 28 May 1998 19:53:51 +0000 > Anyone have any idea what this means ??? > > > Auditorio CCCB > > (SonarCinema) > > THIS********* 13.50 Kraftwerk*********THIS Kraftwerk were just removed from the schedule (on http://www.sonar.es/s98/spain/infopage/prog2.htm as well as on http://www.sonar.es/s98/spain/infopage/prog3.htm). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Quinte-Eco Subject: (kw) This terminology Date: 29 May 1998 03:09:28 -0400 >My apologies. No offense was intended, and I did try to make it as >tactful as I could. If you might know a better, non-offensive way to >describe what I'm saying, please do tell. >Personally, I do not like to use the term "African-American", unless the >person really is. For example, I work with two men that were born in >Nigeria - they are American citizens, and these guys I truly feel are >"African Americans". Many of the...gee, what term can I use that isn't >offensive - many people I work with strongly dislike the term "African >American", and they much prefer the term "black" or "people of color". INteresting that this is even being discussed here.. :) In Canada, we generally refer to other people as "Joe" or "Steve" or "Mary" or whatever other name they go by.. We don't generally differentiate between people by their race.. Thereby, there is no need for "fill in the blank"-Canadian titles.. If there was, I'd be a Scottish-Irish-British-Canadian (and my family has been here since we were booted out of the states in 1776!!!!).. Anywho, could someone help me.. I want to have the most Kraftwerk on the least number of CDs... Lacking a boxed set to buy, I would like to start buying as much music as I can, on the least number of CDs.. Suggestions?? Sean Liddle Environmental Resources Technician Quinte-Eco Consultants Inc. Belleville, Ontario Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Quinte-Eco Date: 29 May 1998 03:14:05 -0400 Yesterday, my sister was watching an old Simpson episode and she said that (and I forget the plot to it) during one of the scenes, a german thief (??) is asking someone to hury up loading a truck as they "have to be in Stuttgard to see Kraftwerk." Anyone else seen that episode? YEP... Its the one where Homers dad and Mr burns are the final two survivors of this wwII yank unit, who made a pact that the final survivor would share in some stolen Nazi Gold.. Pretty good.. And yes, the German fellow does say that more or less. Sean Liddle Environmental Resources Technician Quinte-Eco Consultants Inc. Belleville, Ontario Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (kw) Hello! Date: 28 May 1998 16:07:16 EDT Hello! My name is Harry Allen, I'm a NY-based writer, and have been a fan of Kraftwerk since about 1979. Dual incidents hooked me: The release of *Trans-Europe Express*, and a friend playing me his dad's copy of "Auotbahn" around the same time. I'm presently trying to go see them in Tokyo for their shows, in order to write a piece for one of the NYC-based newsweeklies, but have been unable to figure out the name or number of their managment. Even Elektra, their US label, draws a great, big, gaping hole in this area. Does any one have any suggestions? Thanks! Glad to be here. Best, HA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (kw) Simpsons Date: 28 May 1998 16:13:23 EDT Hi! Ernie wrote: < Yesterday, my sister was watching an old Simpson episode and she said < that (and I forget the plot to it) during one of the scenes, a german < thief (??) is asking someone to hury up loading a truck as they "have t= o < be in Stuttgard to see Kraftwerk." < Anyone else seen that episode? Yes, I know that one, but I think, the german (a young rich one) is the o= wner=0Aof some old pictures, and these have to be loaded fast into his Me= rcedes SL,=0Abecause he wants to "see the band Kraftwerk in Stuttgard"; h= e also listens to=0Asome kind of techno when he=B4s driving away. Carsten Bolte. Kiel. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D halb wesen und halb (ueber)ding=0A # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jose Garcia" Subject: (kw) Kevorkian Date: 28 May 1998 22:26:48 +0000 > From: **************** > > >I would ask Kevorkian hoe difficult it was to work "with" KW, how much > >control > they exerted over sounds, etc. that made it into his mix.< > > I personally would ask Kervorkian why the 'Godfathers of Techno' needed a > mixer like him in the first place. > Well. Kevorkian worked in the mix of, no less no more than Computer World and Electric Cafe LPs, and did a remix of Tour de France, Telephone Call and Radio-Activity'91. He also did a remix for Jarre's Zoolookologie. Not too bad! Jose # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (kw) Alan Wilder answers questions Date: 28 May 1998 16:31:31 EDT Hi! I tried the Q+A section of Alan Wilder=B4s (ex-Depeche Mode) new Recoil-H= omepage=0A(http://www.recoil.co.uk): < VIEW Q + A Subject: (kw) shopping music Date: 28 May 1998 15:38:23 -0500 I was playing a part of "Autobahn" on "The Mix" for a girl at work. It was the part right after the whizzing cars. She was listening and said, "They're playing shopping music now." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred_Harding@idx.com Subject: (kw) the simpsons Date: 28 May 1998 16:09:22 -0400 yup, i've seen that episode. the basic premise is that grandpa simpson is recalling his days in the "hellfish" a group of u.s. marines in wwii, i believe. anyhoo, the hellfish saved a number of artifacts from their tour of duty, (some of which are quite valueable). grandpa simpson and mr. burns (a fellow hellcat) are the only 2 of the group alive. the last survivor gets the 'loot'... somehow, (spoiler), the loot winds up going back to germany with the kraftwerk fan... btw - i'm no laurie anderson fan, but, i do belive she's somewhat "on topic". no less so, than say david bowie. the terms "american" and "art"' are not mutually exclusive, by the by....although, she may not be a prime example of said term. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (kw) shopping music Date: 28 May 1998 17:53:11 EDT In a message dated 5/28/1998 4:44:02 PM, you wrote: << I was playing a part of "Autobahn" on "The Mix" for a girl at work. It was the part right after the whizzing cars. She was listening and said, "They're playing shopping music now." >> Hilarious! HA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EZwerk Subject: Re: (kw) Kevorkian Date: 28 May 1998 21:22:38 +0000 Jose Garcia wrote: > > > > I personally would ask Kervorkian why the 'Godfathers of Techno' needed a > > mixer like him in the first place. > > > > Well. Kevorkian worked in the mix of, no less no more than Computer > World and Electric Cafe LPs, and did a remix of Tour de France, > Telephone Call and Radio-Activity'91. > He also did a remix for Jarre's Zoolookologie. > > Not too bad! Actually, Kevorkian was one of those behind-the-scenes kinda guy. I am not too sure what his DJ career was like back then, but recently he is one of the best House music producer/remixer/DJ in the world. He (along with keyboardist extraordinaire Eric Kupper) started a really good record label based out of New York called WAVE with really good releases by Abstract Truth and Blue 6. This might not be the best place to talk about House as the list usually tends to stick to the Electronica end of the spectrum (I am not complaining, merely making an observation) but for those of you who like the more jazz/progressive end of House music, their worth a listen. Ernie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jorge Aguayo Subject: Re: (kw) This terminology Date: 28 May 1998 18:14:31 -0700 (PDT) > INteresting that this is even being discussed here.. :) In Canada, we > generally refer to other people as "Joe" or "Steve" or "Mary" or whatever > other name they go by.. We don't generally differentiate between people by > their race.. Thereby, there is no need for "fill in the blank"-Canadian > titles.. > > If there was, I'd be a Scottish-Irish-British-Canadian (and my family has > been here since we were booted out of the states in 1776!!!!).. > > Anywho, could someone help me.. I want to have the most Kraftwerk on the > least number of CDs... Lacking a boxed set to buy, I would like to start > buying as much music as I can, on the least number of CDs.. Suggestions?? > > Sean Liddle > Environmental Resources Technician > Quinte-Eco Consultants Inc. > Belleville, Ontario > Canada I support what you just previously said. The fact is that America is the whole continent (named after Americo Vespucio) not just one country. So everybody is american, without any prefix attached to it. Well after this, I'm going to answer your question on kraftwerk: I found the following place: http://www.towerrecords.com:80/prd.i/pgen/tower/LW9E089EWESH2JFL00L1RH5G82AGHEXJ/album.html;t=;d=;album=1036130 where they sell 3 cd's @ US$45.99 in a box called "The Capitol Years [Box]". But you are going to need a credit card to order from them, or maybe go to your nearest tower records, with this information printed, and ask for it. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "inf