From: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com (kraftwerk-digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #71 Reply-To: kraftwerk-digest Sender: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes kraftwerk-digest Monday, March 9 1998 Volume 02 : Number 071 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 09:50:18 -0600 From: paisley1@mindspring.com Subject: (kw) kraftwerk tickets if tickets are already available for the New York show, could someone tell me where to purchase them? Thanks. Please send email response as well if you don't mind. - -- may u live 2 see 1999 The views expressed above may be there just to piss you off. "What a fantastic death I was having!" - David Bowie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 12:52:09 EST From: Ultravox5 Subject: Re: (kw) Los Angeles Tour Dates Does anyone know when tix are going on sale for California concerts????? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 17:28:48 EST From: tweibrecht@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk tickets On Sat, 07 Mar 1998 09:50:18 -0600 paisley1@mindspring.com writes: > >if tickets are already available for the New York show, could someone >tell me where to purchase them? Thanks. Please send email response >as >well if you don't mind. >-- sold out....i bought em all... tom w np: floyd - money _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 19:15:11 +0500 From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk tickets On 08-Mar-98, tweibrecht@juno.com wrote: >sold out....i bought em all... No, _I _bought em all! Seriously; I live in the NYC area and will definitely keep my eyes out for tickets. As I mentioned several times, I missed them twice and don't plan to let that happen again. Although the second time wasn't my fault... :-) In any case, if I find out anything I'll post it to the list. - -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 18:47:24 EST From: tweibrecht@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk tickets On Sat, 07 Mar 1998 19:15:11 +0500 Christopher Gross writes: > >On 08-Mar-98, tweibrecht@juno.com wrote: > > >>sold out....i bought em all... > >No, _I _bought em all! Seriously; I live in the NYC area and will >definitely >keep my eyes out for tickets. As I mentioned several times, I missed >them >twice and don't plan to let that happen again. Although the second >time wasn't >my fault... :-) > come on man...first of all, theres no assurance that they r gonna tour...second, if they do, itll be the beacon, a place u can walk in if u have to...third, this is nyc: there are ALWAYS tix for ANYTHING, u should know that....relax...ill have more tix than u can stomach.... tom w np: clash - london calling _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 01:03:27 -0000 From: "Simon Gray" Subject: (kw) MP3 files....... I need help...... I can convert 44KHz Stereo MP3 to cd (playable) without any problem..... but the 22Khz Mono files are not "red book" compatible........... Is there any way to convert them to stereo...... or change them to stereo while converting to Wav files???? Any help would be appreciated.... Simon //// (o o) - -o00--(_)--00o- ICQ: 8640046 http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sgray ComTech http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~srkay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 17:26:33 -0800 From: Fred Becker Subject: (kw) Endlos Doorbell While listening to Kraftwerk a friend of mine once thought it would be cool to put a doorbell in his house that played the sequence from Franz Schubert over and over. I suppose when the door is opened the Endlos Endlos part could come in. Cool huh? Endlos! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 17:33:50 -0800 From: Fred Becker Subject: (kw) Bowie / Kraftwerk - These Boots Are Made for Walking I always have thought that Bowie and Kraftwerk could do a great cover version of Nancy Sinatra's "These Boots Are Made for Walking." I can just hear Bowie's ironic twist on the words and Kraftwerk's synths emphasizing the beat. It might all seem a bit ominous, though! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 21:41:08 +0500 From: Christopher Gross Subject: (kw) afterthought - -- On 08-Mar-98, Fred Becker wrote: >While listening to Kraftwerk a friend of mine once thought it would be cool >to put a doorbell in his house that played the sequence from Franz Schubert >over and over. BTW: Is 'Kling Klang' an anomatopoeia(sp?) (like 'ding-dong') in German? If it is, it would make perfect sense for a doorbell to use KW music. :-) - -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 21:52:29 +0500 From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) Endlos Doorbell On 08-Mar-98, Fred Becker wrote: >Yes I vaguely recall a classical association there from some interview. Do >you know what that Schubert piece is? >Fred Sorry, I don't. Back in the '70s there was an FM classical music program that used the Schubert song as its theme, but they never said what the title was. Might be worth going back and checking up on it, since I like Schubert and wouldn't mind listening to him again! It's a fairly well-known piece, which makes it more frustrating that I can't remember the name! If I do, I'll let you know. - -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 22:25:18 +0500 From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk tickets On 08-Mar-98, tweibrecht@juno.com wrote: >>third, this is nyc: there are ALWAYS tix for ANYTHING, u should >>>know that.... >> >>relax...ill have more tix than u can stomach.... >> >>Is that an offer? :-) >> >money talks... Yeah, and it says 'goodbye'! :-) Anybody can say anything on the Internet, so I hope you're not offended if I take what you say with a grain of salt. It's not meant to be offensive anyway... BTW, how was the '81 show at the Ritz? Everyone I know who was there said it was great, which didn't make me feel any better... >np: floyd - money np: lou reed - metal machine music (low volume) >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:00:36 EST From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) KW vs Bowie On Sat, 07 Mar 1998 09:57:05 -0500 andrew48@gti.net writes: >is why Kraftwerk used the lyrics "david bowie and iggy pop" on TEE >I'm sure there's more to this story.. I believe that is also why David Bowie did a song entitled V-2 Schnieder on the "Heroes" album - a nice tribute to our heroes... Bill Dobiesz N8TLC "Huggy Bear" n8tlc@juno.com Now Playing: Walter Carlos - Scarlatti: Sonata In D Major L.465/K.96 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 23:15:57 +0500 From: Christopher Gross Subject: (kw) we must repeat This is a very old posting, but I never got an answer to it and thought I'd repeat it for the benefit of any new members who might be hiding out there... Hi everyone, Has anyone heard of an album from Lasch Records called "Sehr Gut Kommt Sehr Gut"? I found a copy at least 10 years ago... it seems to be a parody of K-Tel compilations (there's even a K-Tel commercial as the opening track) containing material by Der Plan, Kraftwerk, DAF, the Residents, etc. The Kraftwerk contribution consists of a piece called "Stalagmit" that has been cut up into numbered snippets and inserted between the other tracks. Does anyone know if this is a real Kraftwerk piece, or the whole album is a put-on? The album has a sticker on it reading "This record is a parody" (in German), but I don't know if it's a parody of compilations, the artists, or what! - -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 10:45:13 +0000 From: Eric Knight Subject: Re: (kw) Tour Dates DETROIT????? ROBOT wrote: > > =K R A F T W E R K= > *World/US Tour 1998* > > HALLELUJAH!! It looks like it's for real, Folks.... I HOPE! > > Somebody was asking about the prospective dates: > > Tokyo: 03/06/98, Blizz Hall > San Francisco: 07/06/98 Warfield > Los Angeles: 09/06/98, Palladium> > Detroit: 11/06/98 -(Where?)- > New York: 13/06/98 -(Where?)- IF the DETROIT and NEW YORK dates ARE TRUE, I'll fall off Sea Wall and Into Lake ST. Clair! The Detroit Date/s could be at the Palace of Auburn Hills, The Fox Theater in Detroit, The State Theater, Or Harpos (which I doubt). November 6th Will be a Day to remeber ! > Apparently, this will be our last chance to see KW in action. NOOOO!! > Say it ain't their LAST Album!*whimper*! I guess they want to go out > with a bang and retire, and Florian's gonna teach at Karlsruhe. Can I > be Teacher's Pet? :] ROBOSMILEY > > I've been waiting 20 years to see KW in Konzert! Frisco, L.A- I'm > THERE!! I'll WALK if I have to! Eureka is only 278mi/444km North of > S.F, no problem. L.A is another 450 miles or so South. Anyone for a > KRAFTWERK Konvoy? I don't want to go alone. -(Don't worry, my grouchy > husband is staying home to watch the house.)- GET The KONVOY gears Rolling For Detroit!!! Eric Knight ericknig@sprynet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 19:42:29 +0000 From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Tour confirmed > come on man...first of all, theres no assurance that they r gonna > tour... Now there is. From http://www.tickets.de/artists/art7.html : Kraftwerk will be performing on the following dates: 03.06.1998 J-Tokio - Akasaka Blitz 04.06.1998 J-Tokio - Akasaka Blitz 07.06.1998 USA-San Francisco, CA - Warfield Theatre 08.06.1998 USA-Los Angeles, CA - The Palladium 10.06.1998 USA-Chicago, IL - Riviera Theatre 11.06.1998 USA-Detroit, MI - State Theatre 13.06.1998 USA-New York, NY - Hammerstein Ballroom 25.06.1998 DK-Roskilde - Roskilde Festival, Infos www.roskilde-festival.dk Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:58:08 -0800 From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Tour Dates DETROIT????? - -(re-quoting Tour dates:)- >> Tokyo: 03/JUN/98, Blizz Hall >> San Francisco: 07/JUN/98 Warfield >> Los Angeles: 09/JUN/98, Palladium> >> Detroit: 11/JUN/98 -(Where?)- >> New York: 13/JUN/98 -(Where?)- - -(from Eric Knight)- > IF the DETROIT and NEW YORK dates ARE TRUE, I'll fall off Sea >Wall and Into Lake ST. Clair! *HeeHee* And if S.F/L.A. are true, I'll fall off the Golden Gate Bridge & into San Fransisco Bay!!*SPLASH*!! Oops- I can't swim! Bad idea. ROBOTS & H2O don't mix. -(I have to take baths in oil. *SqueaKy-KlinK*)- >The Detroit Date/s could be at the Palace of Auburn Hills, The Fox >Theater in Detroit, The State Theater, Or Harpos (which I doubt). Hm-m, yeah- check your local venues if you're in Detroit/New York. -(We know where the gigs will be held in Tokyo, S.F. & L.A- I'll keep checking the Warfield & Palladium for box office info.)- Hopefully more details will be revealed soon- perhaps on the Ticket World page that was just recently linked to www.kraftwerk.com -(click the Antenna, then click on KlingKlang.)- Yo- Ralf & Florian in da Houuuuse!! >November 6th Will be a Day to remeber ! November?? OH! Those were International style dates- DAY/MONTH/YEAR. -(I retyped it this time)- It's all in JUNE: Tokyo around the 3rd, S.F on the 7th, L.A. 9th, etc. Dates approximate at this point. Then there's the Roskilde Festival in Denmark, June 25-28. KW are schedualed to play the first night. Maybe later they'll play Spain & South America as well. I keep forgetting- when's the Festival in England? Not that I could afford to go overseas, but, it's nice to know these things anyway.*sigh*. http://www.roskilde-festival.dk/1998/english/index.htm Yep, KW is still listed.... stay tuned! http://www.doepfer.de/ Hm-m-m, last updated YESterday?!! But, I still don't see any KW info. Maybe someone with better eyes and more braincells can have a look-see, eh? All I see is Doepfler produkt info. >GET The KONVOY gears Rolling For Detroit!!! Big 10-4, good buddy! "We got a KRAFTWERK Konvoy, rockin' through the night. Yeah, we got a mighty Konvoy, ain't she a beautiful sight? Come on and join our Konvoy, ain't nothin' gonna get in our way. We're gonna roll this KRAFTWERK Konvoy 'cross the USA! ....KON-VOY! ....KON-VOY!" - -(*skk* "Breaker one-nine, this here's the ROBOT. 'You got a copy, come on?" *skk* "Kristallo here- no smokies ahead!" *skk*)- *YEE-HAW* -(Any other C.Bers out there besides Scott Barnhill & meself? We could have us some BIG FUN on the road, yakkin' on the 2-way "Radidio"! Citizen's Band Radio. I need a unit. I've been off the air too long.)- ps: Appologies to W.C. McCall for "borrowing" his Convoy tune. There's also a Computer version of it somewhere: "Mercy sakes, we got us a ChatRoom!" Ah, madness.... sweet insanity! ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 11:20:26 -0800 From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Tour confirmed - -(from Klaus Zaepke:)- re: Tour confirmed http://www.tickets.de/artists/art7.html - -(SNIP)- EXcellent! Sorry- that message came in just after I sent my last post. Now we know the other venues! Thank you, Klaus! Chicago, too? KooL! -(Note: some of the dates HAVE been changed- disregard the list I just sent. And remember, it's DAY/MONTH/YEAR. All in JUNE.)- It's going to be a wunderbares Sommer! Start camping out in line NOW for tickets! :] ROBOSMILEY Y'all might want to keep these URLs handy as well.... http://www.roskilde-festival.dk/1998/english/index.htm http://www.doepfer.de/ =OHM SWEET OHM= ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 15:06:43 EST From: tweibrecht@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) Tour confirmed On Sun, 8 Mar 1998 19:42:29 +0000 "Klaus Zaepke" writes: > >> come on man...first of all, theres no assurance that they r gonna >> tour... > >Now there is. >>From http://www.tickets.de/artists/art7.html : > > 13.06.1998 USA-New York, NY - Hammerstein Ballroom ill believe it when the curtain goes up... tom w np: the mix (the silence from the 91 tour) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 17:48:06 +0500 From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) Tour Dates DETROIT????? On 08-Mar-98, ROBOT wrote: >-(*skk* "Breaker one-nine, this here's the ROBOT. 'You got a copy, >come on?" *skk* "Kristallo here- no smokies ahead!" *skk*)- You got a 10-9 on that reefer? OMAHA??? Well, they'll sure know what to do with them frozen robots in Omaha... - -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:58:47 EST From: Future808 Subject: (kw) I'm in KC looking to go to Chicago...... I don't post a lot, BUT, I live in Kansas City Mo and am looking for anyone who would like to get to Chicago (I'm thinking fly) for the show. And no, my girlfriend is NOT going, she doesn't get KW. Has anyone tried to buy tickets yet? Also, anyone in Chicago willing to show me the sights and such. Nat (who is constantly envious of everyone living in Europe) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 21:09:35 -0600 From: "Leonard R. Cleavelin" Subject: Re: (kw) I'm in KC looking to go to Chicago...... At 09:58 PM 3/8/98 EST, Nat wrote: >I don't post a lot, BUT, I live in Kansas City Mo and am looking for anyone >who would like to get to Chicago (I'm thinking fly) for the show. And no, my >girlfriend is NOT going, she doesn't get KW. Has anyone tried to buy tickets >yet? I'm in St. Louis, and would ask anyone who knows about ticket availability/prices for the Chicago date to please post that to the list, or e-mail me directly. I've even got time free that week, so the trip is definitely do-able. Best regards, - -- Leonard R. Cleavelin e-mail: leonard@inlink.com (preferred) lcleavelin@solutechinc.com (work related) WWW: http://www.inlink.com/~leonard Never ascribe to malice what may be adequately explained by stupidity. *****FIGHT INTERNET SPAM! JOIN CAUCE ***** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 21:29:56 -0600 From: angela Subject: Re: (kw) I'm in KC looking to go to Chicago...... Greetings, I feel your pain, I am excited at the prospect of a new tour but hoping and praying that it won't be the last since unless I win the lottery or move to a major American city, than chances are I won't get to see KW :-( but I'm not bitter(enter early 80's cheesy slasher music) just kidding, though I would do almost anything short of selling my soul(body for that matter,I'm not a sex object{sorry I couldn't help it :-) or murder to see KW in concert. If anyone on the caravan happens semi close to the state of Arkansas, please pick me up, I'll do your laundry, I'll cook your food......oh sorry didn't mean to rant, just I little happy(new tour, hopefully new album) and frustrated(the chances of KW playing in Missouri, Kansas, or even Arkansas is as likely as Wolfgang Flur showing up on my doorstep asking me to be an honoury member of Yamo(did I mention my mean tambourine playing skills, just kidding). Though I am sure that I'm worrying a bit much, I'll work something out, just needed to get this message off my chest :-) Good day and night to all. Yours truly, heather D. PS. sorry for the rant Future808 wrote: > > I don't post a lot, BUT, I live in Kansas City Mo and am looking for anyone > > who would like to get to Chicago (I'm thinking fly) for the show. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 23:33:39 -0600 From: Amigaforever Subject: RE: (kw) I'm in KC looking to go to Chicago...... Nice to see that there is another Kraftwerk fan in St. Louis! I'm in St. Louis, and would ask anyone who knows about ticket availability/prices for the Chicago date to please post that to the list, or e-mail me directly. I've even got time free that week, so the trip is definitely do-able. Best regards, - -- Leonard R. Cleavelin e-mail: leonard@inlink.com (preferred) lcleavelin@solutechinc.com (work related) WWW: http://www.inlink.com/~leonard Never ascribe to malice what may be adequately explained by stupidity. *****FIGHT INTERNET SPAM! JOIN CAUCE ***** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 23:52:53 -0600 From: Amigaforever Subject: RE: (kw) Endlos Doorbell I think that if you used the "catchy" Model refrain it would be better. You know.. "She's a Model and she's looking good..." or "Sie ist ein Model und sie sieht gut aus" While listening to Kraftwerk a friend of mine once thought it would be cool to put a doorbell in his house that played the sequence from Franz Schubert over and over. I suppose when the door is opened the Endlos Endlos part could come in. Cool huh? Endlos! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 03:00:49 EST From: Dps8 Subject: Re: (kw) Tour confirmed Everyone stay calm. Remember this is Kraftwerk we are talking about. Only beleive what you see not what you hear. Rumour, rumour rumour. That is all. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 00:22:49 -0800 From: Fred Becker Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Concert Reviews in MEMI On the German MEMI page are reviews of two Kraftwerk concerts, 18.10.97 in Karlsruhe and 16.10.97 in Linz. They appear to be concert reviews anyway. Could someone translate these into English and post to this list? To see the reviews, click on "Aktuell" at [http://memi.infotour.com/]. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:36:55 -0000 From: David Barnard Subject: (kw) Translation of Gigs Translation using automatic translator at http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate The translation is not that good but its readable. Here goes; Strained and well gelaunt we drove those to approximately 400 km from the Ruhr district down into the " wild south " to Karlsruhe - which one does not do everything for its hobby and for the legend of the Rhine! 21 o'clock should loose-be loud all advance notices, to 22 o'clock was then at the rear building of the ZKM written down and fact was: The gentlemen let themselves be looked only in such a way against 22.30 o'clock. Without the 4 KRAFTmaenner put word of the apology, (or about also only short greetings) then also immediately loosely. But which was that? Do I have's with the ears? What for n'was sound? - Nee, how terribly! Only Gedroehne and Gewumme! All long-known pieces, hardly new or innovative! - however in approx. ten years one also surely finds no time, its, to up-polish and them still new impulses to give undisputed before approximately twenty years innovative sounds and sounds times somewhat. Even my piece of favourite of the FORCE WORKERS " RADIOACTIVITY " I have recognized, so badly hardly came it more rueber. All the same whether MOTORWAY, ROUTE DE FRANCE, TEA, ROBOTS, or whatever title always, at home over my system sound it better! Additionally I did not become during the whole concert the stupid feeling loosely, the 4 shapes on the stage (which I praise me there the Mr. Schulze, Grosskopf and Goettsching, because had which Charisma with its Live appearances...) wanted us 4000 EM Pilger simply only verar.... Nothing, in addition, nothing at all came live! - also acknowledged afterwards like me some the likewise present musician. Mostly probably above all a certain Florian S. was in the false film, concert, or: knows the vulture, where it was! Of in any case not on the stage its own concert, at least not with its ears and already not at all with its hands at the right time, on the correct key on the key boards! - however: Before its equipment in person it confessed at least.... Also the last Zweifler could be come up probably at the latest with the robot number (admittedly a Augenschmauss) finally the ears. The Musi continued to play just as as beforehand, although no humans on the stage were! Yes, the technique is thanks! Even the two, or were it perhaps nevertheless three new titles did not tear me not from the stool. I would arrange it under the column " unit mash ". After some additions (among other things Music Non stop!... but do not ask such... Anm.der authoress.) the " Heroes of my storm and urge years " left exactly the same word and greetingless the stage, like it it before approximately 1 1/2 hours had then entered. - only rapidly away of the Bloeden there down... figures all the dressed in leathers imagined probably there above.... Honestly, the " fantastischen four " demonstrated in impressive manners, what they held from the public. Really robot or people machines was there above on the stage, but indeed no organisms, geschweige even humans! Pfui, devil, which for a behaviour!!! Yes, you love EM fans and KRAFTWERK young, such a behavior of total lack of interest must we not to be offered not be able! Me beschlich as gradually the dull/musty feeling, our loved KRAFTmaenner and of the early 80 it 70's still acquired Lorbeeren rests itself on their at that time (as I find) rightfully. They " played " this concert only, because they " tax away " thereby surely quite well could, and not, because they wanted the music to enjoy and these gladly their fans darbieten. Nee, nee, far been missing! - perhaps they wanted to test in addition, only times, like many of their in the meantime innumerable fans them also today nachfolgen.(to that the last appearance us still separate...) It is really sad: Even the eingefleischtesten KRAFTWERK fans and even " CLONE ", like the Rotterdamer formation EM=ELEKTRONI MACHINE, could not hide their disappointment over this absolutely bad, bad, impossible presentation in Karlsruhe. We four EM Nomaden from the Ruhr district (under it 2 musicians), did not only vibrate only speechless the headings over the 1 1/2 hours, which had gone past even. Such a thing we had not expected nevertheless now, although all our worst vorahnungen were by far still undercut. We had already looked forward since July to this for many years hot desired Live appearance. POWER STATION finally again LIVE, works tingling, how a positive electrical shock!!! But: How is it only possible that two highly gifted musicians (the two Aushilfs gentlemen in the center of the stage were as well as so only as statisten set up) develop themselves further, in music so few that they survived themselves now themselves? Before twenty years they were the time already around lengths ahead and today? Nee, nee, nee - there even so highly gifted keyboard-Artisten of type of keyboard from the today's guard ordered better Live Gigs to already much, as this supergau of the " living legend " POWER STATION. Surely and in Karlsruhe also still its " battery everything " with them long the current was switched years off... *** English: So that your KRAFTWERK Verehrer does not go now however all too hard with me because of this criticism into the court, in the end still something positive - honest, there is also which pleasing of the Gig to report: The inimitable and almost incomparable Vocoder sounds remain simply ingenious. And for the visual the four ordered also terribly to much. Mad videos, computer animations, neon clothes and Showeffekte (particularly with the " ROBOTS "), spoiled at least the eyes, even if the ears had to suffer much. But: Why do I go into a concert? Moecht I rather which mad see, or to hear? - with the latter we came with POWER STATION in no case at our expense - of me heisst's now: Putting one ade, POWER STATION did pain, schadeeee...! Bumm, tschak, peng, boing!!! Sylvia Sommerfeld, which fortunately already experienced vieeel better EM Live Gigs POWER STATION in Linz - for realists the cinema was live! The remarks of Sylvia I cannot follow under any circumstances. Even one therefore appears it me importantly that the report does not remain one-sided. Whether my aspect is another, because I was in Linz, I cannot say. But is also no matter actually, since both concerts took place really. Besides I believe that the flow and the pieces were identical. That might be also the opinion of Sylvia. Zitat:"Nichts in addition, nothing at all came live! " In expectation point 8:00 o'clock breaks loose the sound thunderstorm, awaited we on our seats. As reference I had my last power station concert in the heading (Circus crown in Munich approx. 1992). Unfortunately nothing became from the German on-time departure performance. It was already few minutes after 8:00 o'clock... But hear there the start was well-known - only quietly then ever louder digital tones rang out. This good idea around the attention of the public to win folded again. Light out - robots on! Power station greetings in the klassichen Vocodersound. Curtain up - numbers on! To see again classically still no musician. Neon tubes on - technique present! The most beautiful desks gives. Video on - timing perfectly! Picture change precisely to the music. Applause - which come musicians! In sequence from on the right to the left. Fully in black - sober and coolly! First work on the machines. I am again fascinated and hear already the complaining voices: To those also NIC elevator control breaks in more new. Harm! For me it is as in the cinema. And there is a good film, a really as excellent film as these, rarely. Why thus into the cinema don't go again and this marvelous film enjoying? Now only times locate who which makes. Aha - Aussteurungsanzeigen on the mixers are meaningful sources of information. And suddenly? The sound? There is too much? Overlays and false Samples? Does the clock from the clock turn out? A view of Ralf Huetter after next door, betrays where the error to be looked up is. The new sights the problem, serves a few switch and the sound is again sound clear. The whole process took only few seconds. To feel beautifully, which there quite live must be operated. If it is also not much. But in the cinema me the director shows also not like it is made, but lets me about his result please. And the sound is enormous. The bass is marvelously knackig, no rattling/clinking in the ears, despite the wind breath from the boxes. My position is probably somewhat seitenlastig - at least it lacks Steroeffekt. Becomes rapid the reality, which beforehand was already clear. We see hearing and the old-well-known program. Why also not? Is it not better the work factory of power station in such a way is to leave like it is? As like new pieces to present, which could be surely madly good, but the uniqueness any longer to achieve know? Thus set the uniqueness on the play? Power station is a synonym, a fixed musical mechanism, the workstation for four people machines. How do the alternatives look? Either new pieces guaranteed to the passed qualities to tie cannot. Which at all no dishonor would be. Because the world changed - and their pupils trained the force workers master school well. Besides the teachers topics selected, which will have been once the future sometime. Equivalent topics are hardly conceivable me. And the worst: the critics would without justification leave no good hair at them. Or no more appearances? After the end of new publications now also the end in the public? Never more appearances? Never watch more this film? For the younger ones among us already only the narration and the music memory would remain during lifetimes? Both would not make me happy. I find the situation force it to almost make which it make evenly now: they make the best now still better, them perfect the sound, learn gladly by your own pupils and to leave otherwise everything like it are. One are however really new me: the glatze by Mr. Schneider: -) And thus back to the concert. Technically the flow was not as perfect as at that time in the Circus crown. The four canvases, behind each musician one, are to be lowered for the piece robot around the view on behind it hidden power station robot clone to release. Not only a canvas wedged and somehow for several minutes diagonally in air hung, also three robots functioned not. Only robot Huetter swivelled the levers. Quite madly, because it again-puts the predicate of Sylvia: I repeat the quotation gerne:"Nichts in addition, nothing at all did not come live! " Boing, Bumm, was Tschak. The piece catches nevertheless on with Boing, Bumm, Tschak - by the way again with perfect timing on the video canvases. There suddenly someone forgot his application and it did not continue not. Seriously! Verduzte of views of Ralf and fast reaction of Florian, which was responsible for the Samples probably. Thus it played the Samples in completely unusual rates crosswise over the keyboard around the gap to bridge simply several times. Only those at least having probably noticed. Curse the correct programs loaded and loosely went.. Which by the way really came from the DAT, were the robots. Since no the Instrumete could serve (the people musicians remained presenting the stage far around the machine musicians), remains the recording level meters of all four mixers darkly. Now to the dubious affairs. Does Mr. Schneider at Alzheimer suffer? Or why did it have a file also on the stage? Why did it bring, did break open, through it did page and again did carry the file forward demonstratively also on the stage, when it left the stage? Paper - as anachronistisch for the Rheinlaendische Tanzmusik, which already swore off end of the seventies of the guitar. Why did one of the new musicians have to branch briefly to Mr. Huetter and help it at its desk somewhat? Still to it in the part in those they already the fluroszierenden spider network garbs carried. Why did Mr. Schneider play practically only statist? My opinion after the best part - pocket calculators. There the four were nevertheless smoothly before their desks in the Direktkontak # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #71 ******************************