From: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com (kraftwerk Digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk Digest V3 #111 Reply-To: kraftwerk@xmission.com Sender: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com Precedence: kraftwerk Digest Tuesday, July 22 1997 Volume 03 : Number 111 In this issue: (kw) DADC (kw) Of Cleopatra & other things.. (kw) Nefkom (kw) Re:Radiation Symbols (kw) Autobahn (kw) Interseting Kraftwerk Item (kw) KW-Theme (kw) Re:Interseting Kraftwerk Item Re: (kw) La Duesseldorf/VIVA (kw) Volleyball and stuff ..... Re: (kw) Yeah, got my tickets! Re:(kw) Volleyball and stuff ..... (kw) one more TG97 review from Japan Re: (kw) 343 572 110 526 Re: (kw) 343 572 110 526 Re: (kw) 343 572 110 526 [none] Re: (kw) "Oh, Synthesizer" Re: (kw) one more TG97 review from Japan (kw) NIN Re: (kw) radioactivity signal (kw) German-language CDs resurfacing. Re:(kw) Volleyball and stuff ..... Re: (kw) 100% on-topic and interesting (kw) Individuellos Re: (kw) Individuellos Re: (kw) one more TG97 review from Japan Re: (kw) 100% on-topic and interesting Re: (kw) 100% on-topic and interesting (kw) Remake (kw) Great Videos (kw) =?ISO-8859-1?Q?What=B4s_all_this_then=3F?= (kw) An article on latest KW work (kw) robots on amp (kw) Karlsruhe Soccer Info & Gig on TV? (kw) 'capitol years' box set. (kw) Technopop See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the kraftwerk or kraftwerk-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 14:28:48 -0400 From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) DADC >>> I tried many and the only better are SONY DADC from Austria. <<< I happen to agree with youy: DADC, anywhere, makes the best CDs. The quality is always consistent. Look for an extra number on your discs that starts with "DIDX" or "DIDC," and you're holding DADC-made CDs. Also, for you USAers, if you have discs made by Discmakers, bsed in New Jersey, you're getting DADC-made discs, too (both are Sony companies, in case you care). Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 20:00:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: (kw) Of Cleopatra & other things.. Hey there fellow Werkers. My regular email account (@easyway.net) has been down since Sunday, so I've been catching up to date with everyone by reading the archived KW posts. I've re-subscribed on this alternate account of mine, so if anyone has tried to reach me anytime since Sunday, please re-direct your mail to me at MBARNHIL@email.gc.cuny.edu That's where I can be reached for now until I get a permanent account up and working again, which should be rather soon. Now on to KW: About a week or so ago, I posted to the list regarding the 1992 Cleopatra re-issue of 'Radio-Activity' with the green-tinted cover. Then I mentioned Cleopatra's newer re-issue which features the previously green parts in a glittery silverish tint. As it turns out, I've now seen yet another Cleopatra re-issue of this CD, this time with the original white coloring against the black radio, true to the original cover artwork. I wonder why Cleopatra would go to such lengths to keep altering the cover artwork of one CD so slightly? Does anyone know if the other Cleopatra re-issues ('Trans-Europe Express', 'The Man-Machine') were also done over again? 'Radio-Activity' is the only one I've seen so far. Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill MBARNHIL@email.gc.cuny.edu - --- "Natural ran my home computer, in myself and to the future" - translation of the lyrics to "Home Computer" as they appear in the Japanese CD re-issue of 'Computer World'. Who could resist the charm of that one? =) - --- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 22:26:11 +0100 From: Frederic Kerbrat Subject: (kw) Nefkom Hi, speaking of Kraftwerk soundalike, how about Nefkom's 'Transit' mCd? Could a kind german speaking person translate lyrics and sheet information?... Nefkom 'Transit', Dark Star Records - Spark 19 The vocals are too loud and dark, and the beat is fast, but it reminds me of kraftwerk. _ _ o' \,=./ `o (o o) -----------------------------------ooO--(_)--Ooo- | kerbratf@cancom.net | ------------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 23:15:53 -0600 From: Marco DuBose Subject: (kw) Re:Radiation Symbols >Another "waste of bandwidth" point to ponder: Which is the "correct" >international RADIOACTIVE symbol? Is it the same way as on the KW stickers >with the small circle in the center, or is it with three triangles coming >to a center-point? I lean toward the KW version, ofcourse, but, I've seen >it both ways on various signs. I'm thinking the triangle-point version >applies to fall-out shelters rather than the presence of contaminated >materials. whatever. That's exactly it. I recently had to track down some clip art of the symbols for a training video and found both versions. The triangle-point version was labeled "Fallout Shelter" Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 11:30:00 +0100 From: Glen Subject: (kw) Autobahn Autobahn features at position 83 in this month's MOJO magazine's 100 Greatest Singles Of All Time. Strange choice, but fun exercise. It's easy to damn something like this as a pointless exercise but it's not to be taken seriously. No-one would compile a list like that, claiming it to be gospel. Perhaps we should follow suit and attempt the Top 10 greatest electronic singles/records of all time. - -- Glen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 20:33:50 +1000 From: "Adam (L) Read" Subject: (kw) Interseting Kraftwerk Item All, I found an interesting item in the local record shop here is Sydney. It is called 'Kraftwerk - Werke' - Westwood One Rarities on CD Vol 55. It has almost the same cover as Kraftwerk 2, execept for the 'Werke' part. The track list is as follows: Tour De France - 1983 German 12" Dentaku - 1981 12" Autobahn - 1975 US chart single ver. Kouhoutek - 1974 single Showroom Dummies - 1977 single edit Der Telefon Anruf - 1987 German 12" Musique Non Stop - 1986 12" Sex Object - 1986 Spanish ver. Radioactivity -1991 William Orbit Hardcore Mix Tour De France - 1983 Remix Mini Calculateur - 1981 French 12" Housephone - 1987 12" Autobahn - 1981 Reissue All excellent sound quality. Anyone have any other info on this one? Adam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 13:23:24 +0200 From: Subject: (kw) KW-Theme Please help me! I'm looking for KW-Related Windows Themes to light up my computer at work a bit =) If anyone got anything related I'd apprechate if it was passed my way through E-Mail! Thanks! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 00:19:00 +0900 From: "Kaoru CHIDA Subject: (kw) Re:Interseting Kraftwerk Item Hi! Werkers, On Fri, 18 Jul 1997 Adam (L) Read wrote: >I found an interesting item in the local record shop here is Sydney. It >is called 'Kraftwerk - Werke' - Westwood One Rarities on CD Vol 55. It >has almost the same cover as Kraftwerk 2, execept for the 'Werke' part. >The track list is as follows: > >Tour De France - 1983 German 12" >Dentaku - 1981 12" >Autobahn - 1975 US chart single ver. >Kouhoutek - 1974 single >Showroom Dummies - 1977 single edit >Der Telefon Anruf - 1987 German 12" >Musique Non Stop - 1986 12" >Sex Object - 1986 Spanish ver. >Radioactivity -1991 William Orbit Hardcore Mix >Tour De France - 1983 Remix >Mini Calculateur - 1981 French 12" >Housephone - 1987 12" >Autobahn - 1981 Reissue I have a CD which is called "DIE KLASSIK WERKS Vol.1". (I bought it at a *nice* CD shop "Strangelove Records" in Shibuya,Tokyo.) It has the same tracks as yours!! :D BTW, "DIE KLASSIK WERKS Vol.2" The track list is.... 1.ROBOTONIK / 1991 12INCH VER.　　　　　　　　　　　　　　7:41 2.RADIO ACTIVITY / 1991 UK 12INCH FRNCOIS KEVORKIAN MIX 　7:26 3.TOUR DE FRANCE / 1983 NEW YORK CLUB MIX 　　　　　　　　6:44 4.THE TELEPHONE CALL / 1987 UK 7INCH VER. 　　　　　　　　3:09 5.COMPUTER WELT / 1981 MAXI SINGLE SPECIAL MIX　　　　　　5:06 6.MUSIQUE NON STOP / 1986 7INCH VER.　　　　　　　　　　　4:08 7.LES MANNEQUINS / 1977 FRENCH 7INCH EDIT 　　　　　　　　2:30 8.KOMETENMELODIE 2 / 1975 7INCH EDIT　　　　　　　　　　　2:50 9.TOUR DE FRANCE / 1983 2E ETAPE　　　　　　　　　　　　　2:40 10.RADIOACTIVITY / 1991 UK 12INCH WILLIAM ORBIT MIX 7:23 11.ROBOTONIK / 1991 12INCH VER. 4:51 12.TV 2 / ELEKTRIC MUSIC 1993 12INCH VER. 5:45 13.BABY COME BACK / 1992 ELEKTRIC MUSIC 4:14 Bye! KaoRu #---Sorry,I don't write English well. I hope you can read it... *** Kaoru CHIDA-Fujishima *** *** Madame Curie / Frau Kaoru BARTOS *** *** from Tokio with love xxx *** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 20:46:40 +0000 From: "Nicholas D. Kent" Subject: Re: (kw) La Duesseldorf/VIVA > > At the same time, a postcard from Captain Trip says it's 2500 yen > per a copy. It's equlvalent to $22, withOUT s/h. > > Can such a thing happen? Or is it just a misprinting or a > misinformation? I just don't understand. > > Can anybody have an idea or a hint? > > TIA, > > Hiroshi. Hi, I notice many independent Japanese labels sell CDs in NYC for less than the price in Japan. Mostly Osaka noise bands. CDs sell for $20 to $23 each compared to $34 to $40 which is the price of regular Japanese imports when they are sold in NYC. This upsets me since none of the bands I like are sold at low prices. I think many small labels intentionally lowered their international prices to be about the same price as other imports. nick kent http://idfx.com/artskool/jem synth music from Japan site # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 11:10:51 -0400 From: Paul Subject: (kw) Volleyball and stuff ..... Hello all, Was watching Channel 4 here in the UK a few days ago, and remebered that Kraftwerk composed the theme music for the womens' volleyball that they used to show (we're talking 10+ years ago here!). My god! Kraftwerk actually did something for someone when they were asked= to to! Does anyone know if this music is still around! By the way, someone mentioned that there were plans to re-issue some of t= he albums. Autobhan costs in the UK about $20 .... should I wait? Oh, and one more thing ...... during the Radio One special on Kraftwerk, Wolfgang or Karl talk about Florian creating a drum kit by ripping apart = an organ .... what is the piece of music plying in the background? Thanks!!! Paul. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 16:34:55 +0200 From: Leon Mols Subject: Re: (kw) Yeah, got my tickets! DepecheCBI@aol.com wrote: > Today my tickets for Karlsruhe arrived. Too sad, they're just bloody > computer-tickets (1991 I had one with a barcode and a robot on it). > > Maybe we could make a list of all who've got tickets for Karlsruhe and > meet > there! Count me in ! Actually, I can't wait until October 18th.....I've been a fan since Autobahn but have never seen them live. It's about time ! Leon http://home.pi.net/~lmols # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 00:01:00 +0900 From: "Kaoru CHIDA Subject: Re:(kw) Volleyball and stuff ..... On Fri, 18 Jul 1997 Paul-san wrote: >Oh, and one more thing ...... during the Radio One special on Kraftwerk, >Wolfgang or Karl talk about Florian creating a drum kit by ripping apart = >an >organ .... what is the piece of music plying in the background? That music is "Aetherwellen" in the album "RADIO-AKTIVITAET". # Personally, I love it. :) Well, I also have a question about the BBC Radio One special on Kraftwerk... Wolfgang says like this; "I was in a very big crisis of my life. I didn't want to make music any longer. I didn't want to be robots. I didn't want to make concerts. EVEN I didn't want to be with the boys after all those years. On the other hand, I had fellen in love so big as never before. This was my new great thing...." What is the song after he talks??? Bye! KaoRu #---Sorry,I don't write English well. I hope you can read it... *** Kaoru CHIDA-Fujishima *** *** Madame Curie / Frau Kaoru BARTOS *** *** from Tokio with love xxx *** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 00:46:44 +0900 From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: (kw) one more TG97 review from Japan Hi 'Werkers, Japanese "Keyboard Magazine" (August issue) has a review article for Tribal Gathering 1997. Some colour photos, and very detailed & impressive writing (in Japanese again). ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:54:45 -0400 From: Regor@webtv.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Roger_D=E9ziel?=) Subject: Re: (kw) 343 572 110 526 The present message is referring to the number they say at the end of "Computerworld/Computerwelt 2". I just received a message from my e-mail provider regarding an e-mail that could not be delivered. It says: from mailsorter-1.isp.alma.webtv.net [205 180 153 85]. This number seems to be the identification # for my e-mailsorter. So... [343 572 110 526] could be the identification # for the e-mailsorter of one of the KW members. Kraftwerk members MUST use e-mail and e-mailsorters are COMPUTERS. It makes sense to me. Could it be where the mysterious number comes from? - -- Roger Regor@webtv.net Using WebTV since 01/09/97. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 10:40:10 -0700 From: LM Subject: Re: (kw) 343 572 110 526 Roger D=E9ziel wrote: > I just received a message from my e-mail provider regarding an e-mail > that could not be delivered. It says: > from mailsorter-1.isp.alma.webtv.net [205 180 153 85]. > This number seems to be the identification # for my e-mailsorter. It's actually what's called the IP address. It's a decimal representation for a 32-bit hex number ("CD B4 99 55" in your case). Every time you type an url like "www.webtv.com" in your browser it gets translated by the DNS into a number like that. > So... [343 572 110 526] could be the identification # for the > e-mailsorter of one of the KW members. > Kraftwerk members MUST use e-mail and e-mailsorters are COMPUTERS. > It makes sense to me. It might, but... > Could it be where the mysterious number comes from? Not really: IP numbers cannot be higher than 255 (FFh), so that would discard the numbers 343, 572 and 526. ;-) |_ |\/| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 11:36:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) 343 572 110 526 On Sat, 19 Jul 1997, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Roger_D=E9ziel?= wrote: > So... [343 572 110 526] could be the identification # for the > e-mailsorter of one of the KW members. Kraftwerk members > MUST use e-mail and e-mailsorters are > COMPUTERS. > It makes sense to me. > Could it be where the mysterious number comes from? :) Neat idea, but unfortunately the components of an IPv4 address (the current standard) are limited to the range of 0 to 255. I suppose it could be showhorned into being an IPv6 address by rearranging bits, but it doesn't matter since IPv6 hadn't been invented at the time of the song anyway. :) - --> /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~lapierrs * * "Do not run! We are your friends!" - Mars Attacks */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 11:54:24 -0600 From: owner-kraftwerk@xmission.com Subject: [none] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 10:19:33 -0700 From: discofembot@juno.com (Bill C Talley) Subject: Re: (kw) "Oh, Synthesizer" >ROBOT was talking about a song made by Komputer called "Oh, >Synthesizer." >from their E.P. (circa 1996). >I have a copy of this and it sounds dangerously close to "Neaon >Lights" by KW. >I'd like to know, for those of you who have listened to this song, >what >your opinion is on this? Do you think it's a copyright violation? I have the 'Komputer' e.p. and the 'Looking Down On London' single. Yes, I agree with you the the e.p. sounds an aweful lot like a rip-off (poorly done to boot) - but the single is fantastic. This group apparently toured with Erasure during their 'Tiny Tour', and have a small fellowship. This is the only work that I've seen by them yet, and if anyone has a full-length out there, what is it like? I'm interested mainly because of the rather blatent Kraftwerk theft. I totally endorse sampling, Kraftwerk are VERY useful for that purpose - just check out any 80's west-coast rap. Komputer, however stole the melodies, not the sounds. This makes it a totally pale shadow of KW who steal the songs! Damned right, Kraftwerk deserves something for this. L8r... Bill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 22:23:55 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) one more TG97 review from Japan Hiroshi MURATA wrote: > > Hi 'Werkers, > > Japanese "Keyboard Magazine" (August issue) has a review article > for Tribal Gathering 1997. > Some colour photos, and very detailed & impressive writing > (in Japanese again). > So why don't you guys post a good english translation of this kind of review (at least the most interesting parts) ? jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 22:31:28 +0100 From: jbv Subject: (kw) NIN Does anyone know if there's a mailing list dedicated to Nine Inch Nails somewhere in ze cyberspace ? jbv please email privately for not spoiling this list with off topic topics... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 10:21:21 -0700 From: discofembot@juno.com (Bill C Talley) Subject: Re: (kw) radioactivity signal >>Another "waste of bandwidth" point to ponder: Which is the "correct" >>international RADIOACTIVE symbol? Is it the same way as on the KW > >for what I remember from studies, the only symbol of danger from >radioactivity is the one with the circle in the middle where the >triangles >have their inner points cut to a curve to face the inner circle. > >but what I don't really remeber is if it comes with one triangle on >the top >and two in the base or viceversa. personally I like more the one with >two >triangles on the top... As I recall, the international symbol for radioactivitiy has the two yellow triangles on top... But to be sure, check out the Simpsons. ; ) L8r... Bill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 20:28:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: (kw) German-language CDs resurfacing. I just thought it interesting to mention that I've been noticing that the German-language versions of Krafterk's albums on CD have been popping up somewhat more frequently in various locations in recent times. For instance, the chain stores of HMV Records have been stocking 'Die Mensch-Machine', 'Computerwelt', and 'Radio-Aktivit=E4t' at assorted locations, and these discs can also be found at several of the on-line CD shops including CDnow, CDeurope, Hotstuff, and so forth. It would figure that these things start sprouting up in multiple locations after I finally collected them all from overseas. =3D) - -- Scott MBARNHIL@email.gc.cuny.edu "Synthetic electronic sounds, industrial rhythms all around..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 20:26:56 +0500 From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re:(kw) Volleyball and stuff ..... >Well, I also have a question about the BBC Radio One special on Kraftwerk... The Radio One special? Is it available on the Net? I'd like to find out more about Wolfgang, since he seems to have been the most reclusive member of a very reclusive (or at least soft-spoken) band. As far as I know, he only started doing interviews after he left KW (though I'm open to correction on that! :-))... Anyway, to repeat an old piece of news, TIME PIE is supposed to be released in the States in September-- which will tie in nicely (I hope) with the new KW and Elektric Music releases. Oboy oboy... Un jeu de bezique, Fromage synthetique, Folie phonetique, a l'age atomique... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 12:10:06 +0300 From: Otso Pakarinen Subject: Re: (kw) 100% on-topic and interesting jbv wrote: > I like the idea of Ralf stopping his car somewhere and recording > those sounds on a portable DAT... Or his bicycle... > But what about the sounds of cars in the original version of > Autobahn ???????????? I'm pretty sure most or all of them were synthetic. > P.S. for geeks : > obviously, some of the synthetic voices heard > on KW songs use formant synthesis. The same technique can be used > to synthesize the sound of other instruments (drums, woodwinds...). > But could it be used for other kind of sounds like cars or trains ? > Or perhaps did they use an analyze / re-synthesis technique... > But Autobahn was recorded in 1974... A couple of detuned oscillators (maybe with a noise generator) with pitch-bend is enough to make those car noises. Otso # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 16:48:29 +0000 From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Individuellos Taken from the Klaus Dinger homepage (http://www.tp1.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/people/gawlista/mucke/dinger.html): > La D=FCsseldorf "Individuellos" will be reissued (on CD for the first ti= me) on > Captain Trip Records (Japan) on 15th July 1997! It will contain the two > tracks "Ich liebe dich", "Kokskn=F6del" (originally published in 1984 on= ly as a > 12inch-("maxi-")single) as bonus tracks. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 01:42:12 +0900 From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: Re: (kw) Individuellos Hi 'Werkers, Am 20 Jul 1997 16:48:29 +0000, schreibt Klaus Zaepke: >Taken from the Klaus Dinger homepage >(http://www.tp1.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/people/gawlista/mucke/dinger.html): > >> La Duesseldorf "Individuellos" will be reissued (on CD for the first time) >>on >> Captain Trip Records (Japan) on 15th July 1997! Catalog Nr. = CTCD-066 Price for Japan = 2500 yen. (same as that of VIVA) No announcement for international price is provided yet. ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 01:42:19 +0900 From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: Re: (kw) one more TG97 review from Japan Hi 'Werkers, Am 19 Jul 1997 22:23:55 +0100, schribt jbv: >> Hi 'Werkers, >> >> Japanese "Keyboard Magazine" (August issue) has a review article >> for Tribal Gathering 1997. >> Some colour photos, and very detailed & impressive writing >> (in Japanese again). > >So why don't you guys post a good english translation of this kind >of review (at least the most interesting parts) ? Don't worry, it's basically a detailed description for their stage and musical tracks, not so much different from other reviews. Some extra writing from the reporter: Audience is as crowded as rush hour trains at Shinjuku Radioaktivitaet is one of the most improving track. Every play is newer than before. AKAI sampler & DD1000 behind the four robots. Ralf sung japanese lyrics of "Dentaku" perfectly... almost. ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 20:34:48 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) 100% on-topic and interesting Otso Pakarinen wrote: > > jbv wrote: > > > I like the idea of Ralf stopping his car somewhere and recording > > those sounds on a portable DAT... > > Or his bicycle... > No, bicycles are not allowed on highways... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 20:37:23 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) 100% on-topic and interesting Otso Pakarinen wrote: > > jbv wrote: > > > I like the idea of Ralf stopping his car somewhere and recording > > those sounds on a portable DAT... > > Or his bicycle... > No, bicycles are not allowed on highways... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 21:41:09 +-200 From: Uffe Silverup Subject: (kw) Remake Liebe "Werkers" ;-) Browsing though a mailorder list I found 2 Kraftwerk 12" called Remake Red and Remake Blue. Does anyone have any information about these? The mailorder company calls them "semi-official" (havnt we heard that one before?). Its supposed to be Acid and Trance versions of T.E.E. and Radioactivity. (it probably is though) Oh yes, send your adds for the Marktplatz NOW!!! :-) Uffe _________________________________________________________________________ Uffe Silverup Klaragatan 3 214 34 Malmo Sweden E-Mail: silverup@algonet.se or robotronik@rocketmail.com _/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_ ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~ # Peektime viewing blown in a flash, as I burn into your memory cells# ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~ _/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 10:46:27 +0000 From: "Craig Land" Subject: (kw) Great Videos Hi All, Here in the UK, one of the cable channels (Sky 1) runs a show each morning called 'Morning Glory'. It is a series of videos from a certain year in music history. Well to my delight this morning when I started to watch, they played 'She's Got Claws' by Gary Numan and 'The Model' by, well I don't need to tell you that do I.........?! It was great for me because I had never seen the GN video, and it was good to see that tacky dancing by Ralph and friends as well as their marching up and down in the red shirts......great 'Eighties' pop stuff. Best Regards, Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 13:04:13 +0100 From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) =?ISO-8859-1?Q?What=B4s_all_this_then=3F?= I tried to go in on kraftwerk=2Ecom today (I=B4ve got it as my home) and go= t this message "Page Unavailable=20 The page your are trying to access is unavailable, because it has been accessed too many times today, or the account serving the page has expired=2E You might want to try again tomorrow=2E " I=B4m really worried! Help! /johan ooo ooo =20= =20 =20 oooooo oooooo =20= =20 =20 oooooooo ooooooooo =20 ooooooooooo oooooooooooo =20 oooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooo =20 oooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooo=20 oooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooo=20 oooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooo ooo ooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooo ooooo oooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooo oooooooo oooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooo oooooooo ooooooooooooooooo ooooo ooo =20= =20 =20 ooooooooo oooooooooooo =20= =20 =20 ooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 22:58:58 +0900 From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: (kw) An article on latest KW work Taken from a Japanese magazine "Keyboard Special" August/1997 issue, page 117 (a news page). Kraftwerk seems to be producing tracks for their brand-new album at their Klingklang studio. The album will hopefully be out in Europe in September, from EMI. It's also decided Kraftwerk will provide a track for Wim Wenders' new film "The End of Violence." The editorial staff can be reached at: Publisher: Mitsuhiro Hieda Monthly Magazine "Keyboard Special" Rittor-Sha Co., Ltd. Shio-Seven Bldg., 7-4 Honshio-cho, Shinjuku-ku Tokyo Japan ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 03:59:30 +0600 From: resin@tuna.net Subject: (kw) robots on amp i caught the last few seconds of the robots video on amp(mtv) last sat. night. i think they will repeat the show again on friday. respect d. all terrain sound nyc. http://www.tuna.net/resin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 18:08:46 -0400 From: Roland Metzger Subject: (kw) Karlsruhe Soccer Info & Gig on TV? Hi werkers 1. While I was discussing with friends of mine the possibility of going to t= he Karlsruhe gig, one = friend mentioned that it would be nice if we could go to watch a "Bundesliga" soccer game on = the same occasion (we would come from abroad...). = So I checked out http//home.t-online.de/guenterjoachim.koch/dksc.htm and found out that on the same day the local team Karlsruher Sportclub wi= ll try to tear off the "Lederhosen" of their opponents Bayern Muenchen! = Thought I let all the sports fans on this list know about this opportunity.....( sorry for little Kraftwerk content... )= ! I guess on the 18th of October Karlsruhe will be quiet a sight....a city= overflowing with fans from Bayern, KSC and last but not least hordes of Kraftwerk aficionados. Help Us!!! PS: Presales start on August 11... 2. The www.zkm.de page lists major TV exposure on german TV stations 3Sat (= or was it ARTE?) on the evening of the opening of the ZKM....can we hope for a live TV broadcast??? That would be tooooo gooood to be true....but who knows (someone please e-mail the TV station, please!) Cheers = Roland # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 21:15:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: (kw) 'capitol years' box set. Hiya folks. I've recently been discussing the varying cover artwork (different color tints) of Cleopatra's re-issues for 'Radio-Activity' since 1992. You'll all recall the 'Capitol Years' box set that Cleopatra put out several years ago, which contained their re-issues of 'Radio-Activity', 'Trans-Europe Express', and 'The Man-Machine' all together in one box with a fair sized booklet. I myself bought these three Cleopatra discs separately at the time, so I was wondering if anyone who bought the actual box set could tell me if the 'Radio-Activity' CD included in the box contained the green-tinted cover artwork or something else? Thanks- - -- Scott MBARNHIL@email.gc.cuny.edu "Wir laden unsere Batterie..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 9:57:31 +0100 From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) Technopop I' ve got a KW-remix album called - THE REMIX - from a label called "SMURF" (smurfcd92-05) and on this CD there=B4s one track called "SEX OBJECT-techno= pop version" and one called "TECHNOPOP-demo version" !!!!!!! I just wonder if anyone on the list have heard of the CD and if the two tracks by any chance really could be from the original TECHNOPOP-album they sound very "demo-ish= " not at all the good sound quality of the other "raizormaid" remixes of the album=2E /johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk Digest V3 #111 ******************************* To subscribe to kraftwerk Digest, send the command: subscribe kraftwerk-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". 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