From: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com (kraftwerk Digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk Digest V3 #126 Reply-To: kraftwerk@xmission.com Sender: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com Precedence: kraftwerk Digest Saturday, August 23 1997 Volume 03 : Number 126 In this issue: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com graphic Re: (kw) Happy Birthday, Ralf! (kw) Whew! (kw) It's more fun to be on the net! Re: (kw) 22.03.1975 Köln "Satorysäle" Deutschland Re: (kw) Some questions about bootleg LP's (kw) Yamo News Re: (kw) 22.03.1975 =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6ln?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?____?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Satorys=E4le=22?= Deutschland (kw) Ralfs Geburtstag!! (kw) Organisation albums. (kw) Not on vacation any more Re: (kw) Not on vacation any more (kw) Stockhausen's Birthday (kw) Nexus CD (kw) INA material (kw) Quite off-topic, but... SV: (kw) Nexus CD (kw) Tour de France? (kw) Trivia Re: (kw) INA material (kw) about "Pocket Calculator" Re: (kw) about "Pocket Calculator" Re: (kw) about "Pocket Calculator" (kw) "End of Violence" soundtrack (kw) Michael Rother Live (kw) Wrestling theme?? Re: (kw) about "Pocket Calculator" (kw) covers (kw) INA material (part 129) Re: (kw) covers (kw) P. S.: Michael Rother Live (kw) Karlsruhe advert / Musik Zeitlos Re: (kw) Karlsruhe advert / Musik Zeitlos Re: (kw) about "Pocket Calculator" See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the kraftwerk or kraftwerk-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 01:13:14 +0200 From: lbo Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com graphic first, thanks a lot to all the many ones that wrote me about the similarities between german and scandinavian languages! bottom line is: they have something in common but much less than one could think... :-) - ----------- there is something maybe not everybody noticed about the images on www.kraftwerk.com: they are all .gif pictures displayed much larger than they actually are. this way it's easier to give the large low-res effect of the Kraftwerk logo: just write it in MSSansSerif and enlarge it a lot... the Strahlende Antenna also is quite enlarged. you can try to save them to disk and to look at them with a bitmap program or charging them again on a browser to see what they are like normally. the effect is done using this html code: where width and height are given in pixels. this is a Netscape extension now widely supported by any browser. it's real use is to speed the operations letting the browser know how large is the image and how much space it should draw around thext to show the image without having to actually read it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 01:13:24 +0200 From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Happy Birthday, Ralf! >Today is Ralf Huetter's birthday. He has become 51 years old. and still looking cool with fluo techno glasses! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 00:18:18 -0400 From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Whew! For some reason, I was unsubscribed from the list. Well, it's glad to be back. If possible, can someone tell me what's been discussed here for the last 4 days? Don't tell me to "go look at the archives" because I have no web access whatsoever. Thanks in advance. If your responses are too long or too off-topic, please e-mail me privately. Thanks again. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 17:08:56 +0200 From: "303@iname.com" <303@bigfoot.com> Subject: (kw) It's more fun to be on the net! ®0|áÑð †b­ 303@iname.com T‡é Ù|†¡màtë Ðâñçêmª©h¡ñË™ Hi! This time I'm looking for somebody who would want to host my remix on their site, 'cos I haven't got one myself. You will get the whole thing in mp3 22khz/24kbps mono (that's 07:27min in 1.3 meg) by mail. The short 44.1 version is also available. I will perform a testdrive on all mailadds, so that I don't get 1.3 meg back up in my a...box :) ......by the way... I still got the 37sek version in mp3 44.1 stereo 523k, to mail directly to all who wants it. It's a sort of highlights copy/paiste version of the long one in a much better quality. Kraftwerk It's more fun to compute - C.Crash Remix (C) KRAFTWERK (P) Kling Klang Produkt. All Rights Reserved. I only own the right to my interpretation of the song. I think...? If someone has other valid copyright info - Mail it! So...Why am I doing this? - -Well just because I think that the original song have such an exiting ambience around it. It's really feels like it is computers, and not humans, performing. As I'm a big fan of the complicated world of computers I just simply couldn't resist making this remix. Hope you like it! ///Charlie Crash 303@iname.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 22:24:59 +0200 From: Peter Subject: Re: (kw) 22.03.1975 Köln "Satorysäle" Deutschland This consert in Cologne '75 has another interesting track performed live, Ruckzuck. This track is from th 1970 LP "Kraftwerk" and the live version is 9.30 minutes, almost 2 minutes longer than the LP track. I like this one and I think it's one of the best tracks from the early days of Kraftwerk. Available to listen to while downloading (you'll find it in the cache files) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/8880/ruckzuck.ram Available for download at: http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5193/ruckzuck.ra You'll need http://www.realaudio.com to listen to the files. I'm in desperate need for some more web space, any suggestions? Peter Kraftwerk, The Early Days '68 - '73 http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/8880 (I'm working on an update together with a well known member on this list) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 22:32:20 +0000 From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Some questions about bootleg LP's > I have spotted the following Kraftwerk bootleg LP's on a saleslist, > and I would like to ask if anyone has any more information about these > items (track listing, artwork, etc.): > > a) "Live Frankfurt 81" (mispressing) > b) "Muenster 84" > c) "Live in France / Metropolis" (1 from 100 pieces) I have been told that all three are actually permutations of the "Machine" bootleg LP, only with different (misleading) covers and labels. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 22:32:20 +0000 From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Yamo News Wolfgang Fluer's appearance at the KLEMdag in Nijmegen won't be a biographic lecture, as it was originally announced. What it actually will be is not yet confirmed, but it seems that he is going to appear under the name of Yamo, and not as Wolfgang Fluer. It seems that it will be his only public appearance in Europe this year. The next Yamo single, "Guiding Ray", is now scheduled for September 1st - and this time it should appear even outside Hungary! ;-) Except for the standard release (radio edit, remix & album version), there are also plans for a limited 12" promo single release (tracklisting: two versions of "Guiding Ray" plus (re-?)mixes of "Stereomatic", "Dr. UG.LY", "Mosquito" and "Naked Japanese"). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 03:10:42 +0200 From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) 22.03.1975 =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6ln?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?____?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Satorys=E4le=22?= Deutschland >I'm in desperate need for some more web space, any suggestions? try to obtain free or very cheap email and ask geocities another page. try to ask to all your friend who have an email address but who surely will not set up a page if they "lend" you their address to obtain another page, or tell them that if you make 50/50 with the space you'll set up a nice page for them. go to yahoo and search around in their categories for free space. I remember there was one, maybe under Computer-Internet and so on. try also www.tripod.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 19:48:04 -0700 From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) Ralfs Geburtstag!! Alles gute zum Geburtstag, Ralf! Fellow Listoids REJOICE!! KranK it UP!! YEAH!! I got back On-Line JUST in the nick of time! Jeez- I missed out on a LOT of good discussions! -(Thanks again to HAS BEANS for the use of their Computer so I could scan the Archives a bit! And thanks to Lazlo for posting my 2 messages- I had no other way to make KontaKt with anybuddy.)- Rats, I didn't get a chance to respond to brilliant statements like: "....expensive KRAFTWERK Fan masturbation." -!!!!- *QQ* ROBOBUGEYES Say WHA-A-ATT?!! uh-uh. no comment.*nYRk*. -(Um-m, nevermind my KW posters on the ceiling.*AHEM*. shaddap.)- Oh, yes- EXcellent Konzert report, JBV! Ah, sweet memories....*sigh*.... I should be so lucky! *hee-hee* I'm BA-A-A-ACK!! Lock up your SYNTHESIZERS & STEREOS- the 'BOT is LOOSE! sorry. I've been Off-Line too long. 646 Emails.... I'm all bleary-eyed. OOH-OHH-OOH!! 'Almost forgot- The NEW changes to kraftwerk.com are AWESOME!! Yo, Craig- how's the bionic knee? Take it easy, 'kay? Gute besserung! - -(That goes for ALL o'yez! A lot of folks are under the weather, off-line, etc- not to mention sch**l is starting up again. Not me. Been there, done that. Good LUCK, studs- er, students!)- See y'all in the CHAT ROOM! Best wishes to Ralf on his 51st anniversary of manufacture!*KuS-KuS*! ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT -(Foto & Profile/Personal Data)- http://www.scifi.com -(I live in The DOMINION Lounge. Same Foto, different Text.)- +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:36:10 -0400 From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: (kw) Organisation albums. I was just checking out Select Magazine article on-line about KW at: http://www.erack.com/select/_HEADLINERS/_KRAFTWERK/kraftwerkfront.htm It says, "In 1970 the boys formed Organization and released two albums before the band collapsed." Two albums? Is this just an error or was there another Organisation album aside from 'Tone Float'? I do one KW discography containing an Organisation album following 'Tone Float' listed simply as 'Var' (1972), but obviously they were well into doing Kraftwerk by that time. Anyone clarify? - -- Scott M. Barnhill nebulous@erols.com "Wir fahr'n auf der Autobahn..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 18:32:07 +0200 From: Lars Bull Subject: (kw) Not on vacation any more I'm back now and there's 508 mails to read (sigh!). So far I have read a lot about the meeting being planned for Karlsruhe. I think this is a great initiative! I will try to see the Karlsruhe gig if I can get free from work that weekend. I would also like to express my thanks to everyone involved in making the Olympic CD (Nexus, Gunnar and everyone else). I got it this monday and the quality was excellent! In response to jbv's investigations on the INA-tapes: I don't know what kind of operation INA runs but as you stated; money rules. As we on the list probably can't handle, financially, a release of those tapes, maybe a TV or radio-station can? If everyone on this list mailed, say BBC, repeatedly what we would like to see and where they can get it they might feed it to us? The important factor here is to get our things together before this operation starts. Does anyone have any contacts with a radio or TV station? Maybe a station with a retro style or a local station with limited budgets (who can't afford live concerts with U2 but still wants to stay hip)? Can someone write a convincing letter stating exact facts and benefits? When the shows hits the airwaves everyone within range records it and someone transfers it to CD-ROM, VHS tapes, DVD or whatever. Then we can distribute them within this list like with the Olympic CD (minus the cash deficit). If someone has already proposed something like this, then trash this mail because that's what I'm going to do with every mail I get stating that I am a repeater. Glad to be back! Lars Bull "No RISC - No Fun" MacForum Foreningsgatan 31 411 27 Goteborg Sweden E-Mail: lars.bull@macforum.se WWW: www.macforum.se Fax: +46 31 721 31 01 Telephone: +46 31 721 31 00 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 12:45:22 -0400 From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) Not on vacation any more >I would also like to express my thanks to everyone involved in making the >Olympic CD (Nexus, Gunnar and everyone else). I got it this monday and the >quality was excellent! I just wanted to second that sentiment and send my thanks to Nexus and Gunnar for putting the CD together and a job well done. Wonderful product, boys, worth the wait! :-) - -- Scott nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 18:51:52 +0200 From: "F. G." Subject: (kw) Stockhausen's Birthday Hey just read in the paper that Stockhausen makes 69 tomorrow. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:42:07 +0100 From: jbv Subject: (kw) Nexus CD Scott M. Barnhill wrote : >I would also like to express my thanks to everyone involved in making the >Olympic CD (Nexus, Gunnar and everyone else). I got it this monday and the >quality was excellent! At first, I was really interested in that CD, but the whole discussion around money pissed me off and I gave up. I wonder if it's still time to get a copy... Of course, i've lost Nexus adress. If anything is still possible, please someone email me privately. jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:41:39 +0100 From: jbv Subject: (kw) INA material Lars Bull wrote : >In response to jbv's investigations on the INA-tapes: >I don't know what kind of operation INA runs but as you stated; money >rules. As we on the list probably can't handle, financially, a release >of >those tapes, maybe a TV or radio-station can? If everyone on this list >mailed, say BBC, repeatedly what we would like to see and where they can >get it they might feed it to us? The important factor here is to get our >things together before this operation starts. Does anyone have any contacts >with a radio or TV station? Maybe a station with a retro style or a local >station with limited budgets (who can't afford live concerts with U2 but >still wants to stay hip)? Can someone write a convincing letter stating >exact facts and benefits? When the shows hits the airwaves everyone within >range records it and someone transfers it to CD-ROM, VHS tapes, DVD or >whatever. Then we can distribute them within this list like with the >Olympic CD (minus the cash deficit). Well, I'm glad someone reacted to the idea. Actually, it's the first reaction I get since I posted the idea. I'm still planing to visit INA in early october and check all the material they have. Of course, when it goes beyond my own personal pleasure to view the videos, things are not as straightforward as putting together a home-made bootleg CD. As i wrote some weeks ago, the first important things to check are the technical & musical quality of the recordings, and if INA owns ALL the rights associated with them. I can't imagine myself running after the producers of some TV show from 25 years ago, or negociating with KW management (if any) for a permission of releasing the material. Distributing the material through this list is a nice idea, but I'm afraid we should target a bigger audience just to recoup the initial fees INA will ask for. We're talking about big bizness, INA being used to deal with national TV networks or major record companies. As i said before, INA was created in 1974 to be a reliable archive of all the programs played on french national TV / radio network, and therefore lives on public funds. I personally think that their commercial approach (at least for individuals) sucks, but there's nothing I can do about it, since I'm not prime minister (yet). I still have no idea of how many KW fans would be interested in such material, what is the best medium to distribute it, and which form it should take. If we're thinking of putting together a kind of documentary, we'll end up with astronomical costs that go far beyond the happy / amateuristic atmosphere of this list. So, if anyone has a great idea, please post it and let's discuss it. Otherwise, I'll spend one nice day in INA listening booth, and might post a short review about what I saw / heard, and basta! jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:42:39 +0100 From: jbv Subject: (kw) Quite off-topic, but... ...nowhere else to ask the question : Does anyone know which artist released a song / piece named : I can see the future (and it sucks) I think i came across it within the last 2 or 3 years but can't remember where. jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 20:02:03 +-200 From: Uffe Silverup Subject: SV: (kw) Nexus CD - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr=E5n: jbv=20 Skickat: den 21 augusti 1997 20:42 Till: kraftwerk@xmission.com =C4mne: (kw) Nexus CD JBV wrote: =20 > At first, I was really interested in that CD, but the whole > discussion around money pissed me off and I gave up. >=20 > I wonder if it's still time to get a copy... Of course, i've lost > Nexus adress. >=20 > If anything is still possible, please someone email me privately. Hi Werkers! I totally agree with jbv, so could someone please email me too? Uffe # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 20:49:46 +0200 From: "303@iname.com" <303@bigfoot.com> Subject: (kw) Tour de France? ®0|áÑð †b­ 303@iname.com T‡é Ù|†¡màtë Ðâñçêmª©h¡ñË™ I'm wondering if anybody got the "Tour de France" on 7" or 12" in fine shape? And if that someone would be able to mp3 (128kbps) the primary single-mix to me? I would be very thrilled :-D It's really a shame that KW don't wanna release it on CD - I can't really see the point not to! By the way - I found a remix on TdF on some page. It wasn't THAT good but it's ok. 6meg! Happy Sampling ///Charlie Crash # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:37:39 +0000 From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Trivia Kraftwerk have apparently attended the Popkomm music fair in Koeln, if we can believe this message from alt.collecting.autographs: > In Cologne, Germany, was a Four-Day-Music fair combined with a huge > festival with 2500 (!) artists playing on several stages. [...] > I was unlucky or there absolutely was no chance to get autographs, although > I saw them: [...] > Kraftwerk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 09:24:06 +0200 From: Lars Bull Subject: Re: (kw) INA material >I'm still planing to visit INA in early october and check all the >material they have. Great, keep us posted. >Of course, when it goes beyond my own personal pleasure to view the >videos, things are not as straightforward as putting together a >home-made bootleg CD. >As i wrote some weeks ago, the first important things to check are >the technical & musical quality of the recordings, and if INA owns >ALL the rights associated with them. I can't imagine myself running >after the producers of some TV show from 25 years ago, or negociating >with KW management (if any) for a permission of releasing the material. I know it's a tough one but if you find that the material is worth the trouble I hope everyone on this list ayt list can sign a petition. I am not suggesting that you should do all the work, neither have I got any idea what I should do about it myself. I'm all ears! >Distributing the material through this list is a nice idea, but I'm >afraid we should target a bigger audience just to recoup the initial >fees INA will ask for. We're talking about big bizness, INA being used >to deal with national TV networks or major record companies. Yeah, "The Kraftwerk Mailing-List Conglomerate Emporium Inc, I like it! Honestly, I was only trying to find a way for getting someone else to pay for our interest in Kraftwerk. May be it's naive but as I said; i don't know how radio or TV stations operate but there's a lot of reruns on the box. If the only way to get these tapes, if they're good, is to bribe our way onward or strike a deal with them it's OK. As long as the price is fair and enough people wants to pay. Guess we'll have to wait and see exactly what the price is. >I still have no idea of how many KW fans would be interested in such >material, what is the best medium to distribute it, and which form it >should take. If we're thinking of putting together a kind of >documentary, >we'll end up with astronomical costs that go far beyond the happy / >amateuristic atmosphere of this list. Personally I'm interested in keeping the material in it's most original status, to be seen as a sign of it's times. If someone wants to make something more of it, fine, pay up! >So, if anyone has a great idea, please post it and let's discuss it. >Otherwise, I'll spend one nice day in INA listening booth, and might >post a short review about what I saw / heard, and basta! Well if your review will be anything like the ones you posted earlier we're in for a treat! If you need any help with getting the tapes out of INA let me know what I can do. Take care Lars Bull "No RISC - No Fun" MacForum Foreningsgatan 31 411 27 Goteborg Sweden E-Mail: lars.bull@macforum.se WWW: www.macforum.se Fax: +46 31 721 31 01 Telephone: +46 31 721 31 00 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 00:08:49 +0900 From: blanks@super.win.or.jp (BLANKS) Subject: (kw) about "Pocket Calculator" Hi all. As far as you know there are various versions about "Pocket Calculator". - -Taschenrechner Ich bin der Musikant mit Taschenrechner in der Hand Je fait le compte Et le decompte Je compose Et decompose - -Mini Calculateur Je suis l'operateur du mini calculateur Je fait le compte Et le decompte Je compose Et decompose - -Dentaku Boku wa ongaku-ka dentaku katate ni Tashi tari Hii tari Sosa shite sakkyoku suru Kono botan oseba ongaku kanaderu Does anyone let me know the words of a song in Spanis and Italian? and if really more available..? If is this a mere FAQ, i'm so sorry, but please give me a hint about related URL or FTP? best wishes from Tokyo Japan Sakura UNE PLACE SUR LA TERRE COMME AU CIEL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 00:18:56 +0900 From: blanks@super.win.or.jp (BLANKS) Subject: Re: (kw) about "Pocket Calculator" Oh my God! i have a bad mistake about Germany..on my last post. so sorry. :-( - -Taschenrechner Ich bin der Musikant mit Taschenrechner in der Hand Ich addiere Und subtrahiere Kontrolliere Und Komponiere Und wenn ich diese Taste druck Spielt er ein kleines Musikstueck is this correct? best wishes from Tokyo Japan Sakura UNE PLACE SUR LA TERRE COMME AU CIEL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 00:21:35 +0900 From: blanks@super.win.or.jp (BLANKS) Subject: Re: (kw) about "Pocket Calculator" At 5:17 PM 97.8.22 +0200, Timour JGENTI wrote: >I believe there's no french lyrics in german version :) Yes,i knew. :-) many thanks. from Tokyo Japan. UNE PLACE SUR LA TERRE COMME AU CIEL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:48:59 +0000 From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "End of Violence" soundtrack I've heard that the US release of the "End of Violence" soundtrack - which is supposed to contain a new Kraftwerk track - is scheduled for September 26th. Are there any more details about this release known (record label, exact tracklisting, European release dates etc.)? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:48:58 +0000 From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Michael Rother Live Michael Rother will appear live at the "Battery Park" festival in Koeln (29.09.-05.10.1997). More infos at http://www.keyboards.de/battery-park Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:48:59 +0000 From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Wrestling theme?? The following appeared on rec.sport.pro-wrestling recently: > > Anyone know the name and artist of the song which plays when Alex > > Wright enters the ring? > > I think the title is "Alex Wright theme" > It was a collaborative effort between WCW's resident theme song > writer, Jimmy Hart, and German pioneering ectro-dance band Kraftwerk. Is this really true??? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 19:30:34 +0000 From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) about "Pocket Calculator" > As far as you know there are various versions about "Pocket Calculator". > -Taschenrechner > -Mini Calculateur > -Dentaku > Does anyone let me know the words of a song in Spanish A Spanish studio version does not exist, but Huetter used to sing the first verse in Spanish during their concerts in Spain. (How about a transcription, Jose? ;-) ) > and Italian? The Italian lyrics were posted to this list a while back. I quote: > From: lbo > Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 03:20:53 +0100 > Subject: Re: (kw) Lyrics to "Minicalcolatore" > > sono l'operatore del minicalcolatore > sono l'operatore del minicalcolatore > > io aggiungo > io sottraggo > io programmo > io compongo > > sono l'operatore del minicalcolatore > sono l'operatore del minicalcolatore > > se premo un bottone lui suona una canzone > and if really more available..? Yes, the English version. ;-) Other studio versions don't seem to exist, but Huetter sung parts of the song in Dutch during the Utrecht 1991 concert. (Any Dutchmen here who can help with a transcription?) Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 03:07:53 +0100 From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) covers I just saw U2 at London's Wembley Stadium where they performed an acoustic version of "Neon Lights"... Bono serenaded a video screen singing the song as The Edge (stupid name I admit) played an acoustic guitar. Nobody seemed to know the track at all, except me. Most people thought he was ad-libbing. Anyway, I thought you'd like to know. - -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 12:25:59 +0100 From: jbv Subject: (kw) INA material (part 129) Hi industrial folks ! Since I received a few private mails regarding the possible distribution of KW material from INA, I'd like to give a few more details to help the discussion. Early next week, I'm gonna fax my request to the INA person in charge of the data base. I'll fax a list of possible appearances of KW both on french TV & radio national networks during the 70s and 80s. Of course, this will include video taped shows, audio recordings of gigs, interviews, etc. 10 - 12 days later, they should return the list of what's available, and in which format (images shot prior to the mid-70s are not always video, it can be film also, and in various formats). As for copyrights, if INA holds all the rights, negociations will be easier. I'd like to point out that the price should be in the range of 3 to 4 figures (in US $), according to my estimations. If they don't hold all the rights, they can run negociations on behalf of the TV / radio producers. BUT this would solve only one half of the equation, since the authorization of the artists will be required too. If anyone on this list is closed friend with R&F, please advice. BTW, someone recently suggested that R&F could be members of this list, and I personally think so - or at least someone from the EMI marketing division is a list member. So why not ask them directly through this list : Hey Ralf, I'm talking to you - I'm talking to you ! ;-) I'm one of your oldest fans. So you owe me some consideration. What about a reissue of your earlier live material, just to remember the time when I was young and beautiful (and clueless) ? I hope it's clear to everyone that I reject the idea of any bootleg. A limited edition of that material on a medium that can hold both audio and video looks like a good idea at first glance (and DVD looks like the right thing for it), providing that the sales could at least recoup the money. But I'm sure that for each official copy sold, there will be 10 bootlegs. Didn't anybody mention here (in a previous discussion about DVD and other new digital discs) that DVD would be software locked ? Of course, most pirates are good hackers and the protection wouldn't resist very long I guess. Frankly, if even people like U2 make live covers of KW songs, I can feel some heavy KW revival within the next 6 months. I don't know how long it would last, but if this project is run perfectly in time, it could recoup the money. Or perhaps someone is already at INA headquaters checking the recordings. Well, I shouldn't discuss such ideas in public like that... Obviously, I'm still clueless ! jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 12:24:54 -0000 From: "Mark Humphrey" Subject: Re: (kw) covers > From: Mark Reed > I just saw U2 at London's Wembley Stadium where they performed an > acoustic version of "Neon Lights"... Bono serenaded a video screen > singing the song as The Edge (stupid name I admit) played an acoustic > guitar. > > Nobody seemed to know the track at all, except me. Most people thought > he was ad-libbing. Wrong! I was there too. He only sung a couple of lines though. It' would have been funny if they did the whole thing ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 14:35:00 +0000 From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) P. S.: Michael Rother Live Yesterday I wrote: > Michael Rother will appear live at the "Battery Park" festival in > Koeln (29.09.-05.10.1997). This was inaccurate in the way that Rother's performance doesn't seem to be 100 % confirmed yet. Sorry, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 09:20:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: (kw) Karlsruhe advert / Musik Zeitlos Just a question out of curiosity. If Kraftwerk is playing in Linz on the 16th of October, and in Karlsruhe just 2 days later on the 18th, why is there only an advertisement for the Karlsruhe concert on their website and not the Linz one? Since they perform live so infrequently these days, one would expect to find every show advertised that's coming up. Perhaps the show in Linz is going to be much lower-scale with regard to the venue itself and the promotion. Any ideas? By the way, if Ralf & Florian *are* out here somewhere reading these posts, hello to the two of you and thanks so much for the legendary and timeless music you've given us. Please come back to the USA someday so this Kraftwerk fanatic can experience his favorite band performing live even if just once in his lifetime!! :-) *Auf Wiedersehen* - -- Scott M. Barnhill nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 15:17:27 +0100 From: Mark Reed Subject: Re: (kw) Karlsruhe advert / Musik Zeitlos Hello there. In response to questions: No, I did not record the wembley show, but I will be surprised if there are not tapes of it somewhere, or at the very least, of one U2 show which features the track. Kraftwerk are not beyond playing 'secret shows' and did two UK dates in 1992 as warm ups for the U2 support show. Each show was only advertised at the venue and by word of mouth and were far from sold out (the leicester show was attended by about 800 people and was far from sold out). It would not surprise if they were doing the same again, esp in the light of the new material and a resurgence of interest in the group. Finally, whilst many people may know this, NewOrder recorded a song called KW1 (short for Kraftwerk#1) in 1983 that was released as "Your Silent Face". Well worth listening to. No other news. Mark. In message <199708231320.JAA16970@smtp1.erols.com>, "Scott M. Barnhill" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 17:09:17 +0000 From: "Jose Gonzalez" Subject: Re: (kw) about "Pocket Calculator" > > Does anyone let me know the words of a song in Spanis and Italian? > and if really more available..? > > Hi Sakura and all the rest, I never heard a Spanish version of this song, but here you have the exact translation, anyway it doesn't sound too much musical ;) - ------- Soy el operador con mi calculadora portatil Estoy sumando y restando Controlando y componiendo . . . Y pulsando una tecla especial toca la melodia seleccionada - ------- cya ! - -Jose # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk Digest V3 #126 ******************************* To subscribe to kraftwerk Digest, send the command: subscribe kraftwerk-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-kraftwerk": subscribe kraftwerk-digest local-kraftwerk@your.domain.net A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "kraftwerk-digest" in the commands above with "kraftwerk". 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