From: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com (kraftwerk Digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk Digest V3 #145 Reply-To: kraftwerk@xmission.com Sender: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com Precedence: kraftwerk Digest Friday, September 19 1997 Volume 03 : Number 145 In this issue: Re: (kw) New album Re: (kw) Aphex Twin and Kraftwerk Re: (kw) New album SV: (kw) A bit of Light Relief!! Re: (kw) Kraftwerk / Bootleggers - RECOIL Fw: (kw) New album (kw) Re: Karlsruhe -(NO)- News (kw) New release date ... Re: (kw) re-re-remixes (kw) Kraftwerk Tour Poster sighted!!!! Re: Fw: (kw) New album Re: (kw) New release date ... (kw) Remixes? What about me? Re: (kw) Does driving on the Autobahn feel like this? (kw) off topic joke Re: (kw) off topic joke Ang: Re: (kw) re-re-remixes Re: (kw) off topic joke (kw) update ! Re: (kw) off topic joke Re: (kw) off topic joke (kw) Old article '82 and notes for Calculators (kw) RADIOAKTIVITAT CD ? (kw) that old joke--! (kw) Linz seating/standing question Re: (kw) RADIOAKTIVITAT CD ? Re: (kw) Tribal Gathering 97 concert on CD for sale (kw) RE: hard to get german version of The Mix? Re: (kw) RADIOAKTIVITAT CD ? Re: (kw) RADIOAKTIVITAT CD ? (kw) KW: An Introduction.. Re: (kw) Linz seating/standing question Re: (kw) RADIOAKTIVITAT CD ? Re: (kw) Linz seating/standing question (kw) Karlsruhe (Linz ?)gig - list update. Re: (kw) Tribal Gathering 97 concert on CD for sale See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the kraftwerk or kraftwerk-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 13:40:02 +0200 From: "Rafa" Subject: Re: (kw) New album >of a collaborative project with Heino. Allusive to Heino and R&eatiF... check this http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5991/guestb1.html See you! Rafa # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 13:23:31 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Aphex Twin and Kraftwerk oliver wrote: > > mean listening, not making a party and have it as muzak) > Although I have written some months ago that Techno needed Kraftwerk, I > expect a sound like techno would have grown without them too, maybe > later, maybe it would sound slightly different. Agreed > I think, for example, the > 303 bassmachine would be used in the same way today, without Kraftwerk. > The synths are availbale and their technology does imply, fiddling around > with them, making strange sounds, modulatimg this and route this through > effect processors. I dont believe, that all of this started, because > Kraftwerk did this... Agreed > Before you flame me to death, let me state one other thing too: The >music > of the seventies and eighties, in the way I grew up, would have been a > lot poorer if Kraftwerk had not existed! > Ahem.... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 07:54:35 +0500 From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) New album On 17-Sep-97, Rafa wrote: >>of a collaborative project with Heino. >Allusive to Heino and R&F... check this >http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5991/guestb1.html Yes, I saw that! I found the Heino page while looking for something else, and the guestbook inspired me to make that crack... There is also no truth to the rumor that Heino is suing the makers of "Men In Black" for copyright infringement. Seriously, I've heard Heino and think he has a good voice, but there's something irreducibly strange about his public image that has inspired all kinds of weirdness among certain people here in the US (check out www.wfmu.org)... - -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 17:35:12 +0200 From: "303@iname.com" <303@bigfoot.com> Subject: SV: (kw) A bit of Light Relief!! ®0|áÑð †b­ 303@iname.com T‡é Ù|†¡màtë Ðâñçêmª©h¡ñË™ >between a drummer and a drum-box his drummer out the drummer when a drummer is and drum solo > Jules Seifert Hey man! You must have had some childhood trauma experience with some drummer? Was it with your Mom :o) peace ///CC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 13:09:57 -0400 (EDT) From: DepecheCBI@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk / Bootleggers - RECOIL Hi! Ra wrote: > If you could have anybody remix KW tracks, who would you enlist to > reconstruct/desecrate the classics? Peace. my favourites are: Daniel B. (Front 242) The Orb (I like their mixing for Depeche Mode/erasure) Brian Eno Alan Wilder....NEWS from Alan Wilder!! He releases his new recoil-album "unsound methods" and single "drifting" in october ! 2 track-excerpts are available at my homepage: http://members.aol.com/depechecbi/private/electric.htm (realaudio) I think, it's pretty good! Carsten Bolte. Kiel. i t 's m o r e f u n t o c o m p u t e . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 11:28:45 -0700 From: "ROBOT" Subject: Fw: (kw) New album - -????- Who the heck is this "Heino" dude?? Yeah, he DOES look like Max Headroom, so, that scores big points- he IS KuTe- but, does he play SYNTH? All I see is a foto of him with a git-fiddle. So, who IS this guy?? 'Never heard of him. "Rolf" and Florian?!! Ach der liebe! - -(from "Rafa" )- > Allusive to Heino and R&eatiF... check this > http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5991/guestb1.html > http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5991/ -(Title Page)- Later, kids! ROBOT@humboldt1.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 21:51:42 +0200 From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: (kw) Re: Karlsruhe -(NO)- News In message ID <341EFC4B.DFA@wanadoo.fr> on 16.09.97,=20 JBV.SILENCES@wanadoo.fr wrote:=20 >Harald Westphal wrote:=20 >=20 >> We have asked for a room that we could use for our mailing list=20 >meeting, but > this seems to be quit difficult, because at the=20 >opening weekend, all rooms > are needed and they can't make any=20 >exception. But I think it's no problem to > find a place outside=20 >the building where we can meet us. > =20 >=20 >What about the parking lot ?=20 >=20 >jbv=20 >=20 =B0=B0 Wooh!- Great idea. And if the weather=B4s fine we could=20 improvise a=20 =B0=B0 little sing-a-long. =20 =B0=B0 *** I=B4hm sihnging ihn se rain, just sihngig ihn the (platsch,=20 platsch) raihhn...***=20 =B0=B0 Aehem. Sorry. No, it=B4s a nice idea. REALLY!=20 =20 =B0=B0 But i will not be there (can=B4t sing together with you...). Got=20 no ticket (schluchz)...=20 =B0=B0=B0 Auf Wiedersehen=20 =20 =B0=B0 Josef=20 =20 =20 =B0=BF=B0=BF=B0=BFI=B4m the antenna catching vibration you=B4re the=20 transmitter give information =B0=BF=B0=BF=B0=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 23:46:13 +0000 From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) New release date ... EMI Italy has allegedly announced a new Kraftwerk album for September 30th. Does anyone (Luca?) know the background of this story? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 14:05:14 -0400 From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: Re: (kw) re-re-remixes >>> Has anyone already suggested that Laibach could make some good military-influenced march music from anything by KW? (As we all know their interpretation of Beatles and Opus was something else!!) <<< Since we're talkin' 'bout Laibach, how about In The Nursery as well (whatever happened to them?). Speaking of British bands, can anyone give me some info about the Gothic industrial band Skin? Who are they? The only thing I've ever heard by them was a 12" called "One Thousand Years," which I saw at a radio station years ago. Their stuff is unavailable in the USA. Thanks in advance. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 17:55:09 +0200 (MEST) From: Alexander Peter Zillner Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Tour Poster sighted!!!! Hi! Today I saw a Kraftwerk Tour Poster in Gallneukirchen, thats about 15 km north of Linz. It is identical with the picture on http://www.kraftwerk.com/karlsruhe.html On the Top: Kraftwerk On the Bottom: Linz, 16. Oktober 1997 Posthof The normal Posthof Tour Posters have still to be searched.... Greetings from Austria zilli *********************** Alexander Peter Zillner EDV-Beratung Schussweg 8 4210 Unterweitersdorf *********************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 08:36:17 +0200 From: Thorsten Dowe Subject: Re: Fw: (kw) New album ROBOT wrote: > > -????- > > Who the heck is this "Heino" dude?? For all the listeners out there in the BIIIG World, who don´t seem to know what time it is: HEINO is a real famous singer over here in Germany. He sang such great masterpieces like "Blau, blau, blau blueht der Enzian" oder "Schwarzbraun ist die Haselnuss", part of my puberty, knowimean? THIS WAS IRONIC! (BTW, is it not the same like ´tongue in cheek? I´ll ask a friend of mine at the weekend, he´s very familiar with english idioms) True was that he is very famous over here, but for the not HEINO-Fans he´s kind of a "WITZFIGUR", don´t know any english expression. Person to laugh about. He had a judicial dealing with a local - also very famous - punk-band. Die Toten Hosen. Maybe you know their "Eisgekuehlter Bommerlunder" over there in USA. They kinda copied him and his attitude (which is sometimes really to laugh about). Maybe Heino could be seen as the musical equivalent to ´Wuerschtl and Kraut´. regards Thorsten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:33:58 +0100 From: Luca Dassi Subject: Re: (kw) New release date ... Klaus Zaepke wrote: > > EMI Italy has allegedly announced a new Kraftwerk album for > September 30th. > Does anyone (Luca?) know the background of this story? According to a press release, two EMI Italy executives listened to the first three tracks of the forthcoming KW new album to be published in September. Obviously they didn't disclose any detail. Nevertheless, local record stores don't know anything about that. I'll investigate... *Luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:30:50 PDT From: "Johann Wolfgang v. Goethe" Subject: (kw) Remixes? What about me? Just let me say one thing to this Remix-topic. In my opinion, most of those well known artists that were suggested for making some KW-remixes might do quite a good job. But in the end they would not remix KW-trax for people like us or as a tribute to KW. In some regard they would surely try to present it to a larger audience including people who dont like KW-tunes in the original versions. Consequently, a lot of the original vibes would get lost. But what about us real KW-fans? :) I mean, I remix KW-trax, too. But the process is different. I do that very carefully, e.g. I do not use very long KW-samples, coz I know about the danger of wiping out the spirit of a KW-tune. I would say, I do not actually remix those KW-trax. They dont have to be remixed, the original versions are more than perfect. Somehow I try to develope something new by using KW-samples as quotations. That allows me to create something new, but I can also keep alive the KW-spirit. At least, I hope so. I think all of us have their own views of what makes Kraftwerk Kraftwerk. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 14:14:52 +0100 From: Luca Dassi Subject: Re: (kw) Does driving on the Autobahn feel like this? Kevin Busby wrote: > Just looked up the Aktivitat Collectors' Corner at Jose's site > ( http://www.arrakis.es/~jgc/aktivitat/ccorner.htm ). > The Genua poster appears to show Blaine Reininger (ex-Tuxedomoon) on > support? No. There was no support band for Genoa concert. The writing on the poster is an ad for another concert to be held two days later. (If you look closely you can read "Marted=EC 13 Febbraio" just above Reininger's name) BTW - A great concert. Bye, *Luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 19:17:29 +0200 From: Fer Subject: (kw) off topic joke Q: How many internet mail list subscribers does it take to change a light bulb? A: 1,331: 1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail list that the light bulb has been changed 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently. 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs. 53 to flame the spell checkers 156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness to this mail list. 41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames. 109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and to please take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb 203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, alt.spelling and alt.punctuation about changing light bulbs be stopped. 111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we are all use light bulbs and therefore the posts **are** relevant to this mail list. 306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique, and what brands are faulty. 27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs 14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post corrected URLs. 3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to this list which makes light bulbs relevant to this list. 33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote them including all headers and footers, and then add "Me Too." 12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing because they cannot handle the light bulb controversey. 19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three." 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ. 1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup. 47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion was meant for, leave it here. 143 votes for alt.lite.bulb. - - Fer. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 19:25:03 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) off topic joke Fer wrote: > > Q: How many internet mail list subscribers does it take > to change a light bulb? > > A: 1,331: Plus one saying that it's a remake of a joke about Microsoft programmers. jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 20:51:58 +0100 From: Subject: Ang: Re: (kw) re-re-remixes In the nursery are still making music not often but now and then (I think!) I,ve seen some new compilations also! Does anyone have a complete discography of them? /A # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 19:51:20 GMT From: jseifert@cableinet.co.uk (Jules Seifert) Subject: Re: (kw) off topic joke =46er wrote: >Q: How many internet mail list subscribers does it take > to change a light bulb? > >A: 1,331: Hmmmmm, do ya think Nexus was on the Litebulb Mailing List? :-))) ciao, - ------------------------------------ Jules Seifert The Voice of Energy!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 21:01:18 +0200 From: Mats.Kadmark@gfs.gu.se (Mats Kadmark) Subject: (kw) update ! Hello!=20 =20 5 new images have been added to my KW-pages!=20 =20 I have some further images which I will add sometime soon....=20 =20 Thanx to Jose and JBV for the support!=20 =20 Exceller8 ! ! !=20 =20 Mats=20 =20 www.student.gu.se/~maka0067 =20 =20 P.S. Don't forget to sign my new guestbook, 5 entries so far! =20 =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 23:03:37 +0100 From: "Simon Gray" Subject: Re: (kw) off topic joke You wrote: > Q: How many internet mail list subscribers does it take > to change a light bulb? > > A: 1,331: Mmm, it's very easy to copy someone elses joke... isn't it??? Obviously someone has been in the comedy web-site or been reading .net magazine. If you are going to post a joke, try and make it original. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 00:18:11 +0200 From: Fer Subject: Re: (kw) off topic joke >Obviously someone has been in the comedy web-site or been reading .net >magazine. nope... i found that on another mailing list.... thought it was original...my apologies to all the offended listies - -- Fer fgoiriz@arrakis.es "You're so close, but far away" aka. Werk. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:33:10 -0700 From: Chris Skerik Subject: (kw) Old article '82 and notes for Calculators I just came across a 1982 article from the Face magazine, plus in the letters section Ralf sent in the notes(keys) to play a couple of songs on a Casio Calculator, Thought it was interesting, here they are Autobahn 4 4 X X 4 4 X 4 4 X X 4 4 X X #6 8 4 X #6 8 4 - 8 9 5 - 8 9 5 9 8 7 6 9 8 7 6 #6 8 9 Das Model 6 6 8 6 8 6 3 3 5 3 5 6 6 8 6 8 3 3 5 3 5 3 6 6 6 8 7 6 7 5 3 3 6 6 6 8 7 6 7 5 3 3 6 6 6 8 7 6 7 5 3 3 6 6 6 8 7 6 7 5 3 8 7 6 5 8 7 + Trans Europa Express 5 #5 #8 8 5 #5 #8 6 5 #5 #8 #6 8 5 #5 #8 8 5 #5 8 #6 5 #5 #8 8 #6 8 The note from ralf said All you need is a model with the appropriate "music facility", rudimentary numeracy and reasonably fresh batteries. I can type up the article as well, which by the way is entitled "The Werk Ethic" but its going to take me a while, not much time right now. Chris cskerik@pacificnet.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 21:35:35 -0400 From: Regor@webtv.net (R. D.) Subject: (kw) RADIOAKTIVITAT CD ? I have never seen the Radioactivity CD here in Canada (in the last 5 years) and I want it. This week I saw one with the following informations: - - title: Radioaktivitat. - - made in Holland. - - all the exterior artwork is black and white. - - I couldn't see the name of the Record Company on the CD case exterior. - - price: 40 (CAN dollars), (double of a regular CD). Does somebody know that version of the CD? Is the sound quality good for a CD version? Is it worth double the regular CD price? Could it be some kind of "unofficial" version because I can't see the name of any Record Company on the outside of the CD case? Any info could help me to decide if I should buy this CD or not. ThanKs. - -- Roger Regor@webtv.net Using WebTV since 01/09/97. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 21:57:09 +0500 From: Christopher Gross Subject: (kw) that old joke--! Q. How many list-members does it take to screw in a lightbulb? A. None: it's too hot in there - -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 22:21:35 -0400 (EDT) From: PRODUKT01@aol.com Subject: (kw) Linz seating/standing question Does anyone know about the show in Linz on October 16? My question is: which are better tickets, seated or standing? Which are closer to the stage? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 22:31:42 -0400 (EDT) From: EJRSemiGod@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) RADIOAKTIVITAT CD ? In a message dated 97-09-18 21:42:50 EDT, you write: << This week I saw one with the following informations: - title: Radioaktivitat. - made in Holland. - all the exterior artwork is black and white. - I couldn't see the name of the Record Company on the CD case exterior. - price: 40 (CAN dollars), (double of a regular CD). Does somebody know that version of the CD? Is the sound quality good for a CD version? Is it worth double the regular CD price? Could it be some kind of "unofficial" version because I can't see the name of any Record Company on the outside of the CD case? Any info could help me to decide if I should buy this CD or not. >> If it's twice the price than a regualr CD, chances are, there's nothing rare about it, the're just trying to make some money..Here in the US, the radioactivity CD (which I have) fits that description perfectly, and the record company is tough to see (it's an old capitol records logo in the top corner). Check the tracklisting. If it starts with geiger counter and ends with ohm sweet hom, then it's most likely nothing special.. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 11:52:20 +0900 From: blanks@super.win.or.jp (BLANKS) Subject: Re: (kw) Tribal Gathering 97 concert on CD for sale Hi Lars. At 9:24 PM 97.9.10 +0200, Lars Nellemann wrote: >Hi > >Kraftwerk at TRIBAL GATHERING 97 - The full concert on CD >I have a few of this double CD set for sale. > >This is the full Tribal Gathering Kraftwerk concert, not >the amputated BBC session - It's the full 90 Minutes, and as >a bonus a Japanese concert containing a very long live version >of autobahn. > >The set contains a full lenght live version of the NEW KRAFTWERK SONG, >and the 27 sec MTV clip of the same song. > >The tribal gathering is an audience recording, which score 6 out of 10, >the Budokan Concert is a Radio-recording, which score 8 out of 10. > >The double set cost 50 US$, including postage, anywere in the world. > >If you're interested - >Mail me for further instructions. > >nelleman@biobase.dk I've received your kool CDs today! Thank you very much for your good works and thoughtful packaging! At first, i have thought 50$ is too expensive for an audience recording, but now i am satisfied with this precious sounds-commemoration at Luton'97. and NEW SONG! Full Length!! with quite Good recording-sound quality!!! But unfortunately, The quality of this new song is not so much excellent..... i would like to send a consolation prize to Ralf and Florian. :-) Anyway, i could added your CDs on my introduction of KW-bootleg pages. thanks a lot! Sincerely yours. from Tokyo Japan SAKURA PS The concert date of Japan '81 is Sept.6. not July 9. :) UNE PLACE SUR LA TERRE COMME AU CIEL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 04:37:36 +0200 From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: (kw) RE: hard to get german version of The Mix? In message ID on=20 14.09.97, tb@kuai.se wrote:=20 >I was the one who asked... my question was about original releases on=20 >LP, not new ones on CD... It can't get any better then Kraftwerk on=20 >vinyl... analogue all the way... :)=20 > Btw, is it hard to get the german version of The Mix? (on LP)=20 >/Thomas =20 =20 =B0=B0=B0 I think this is just a question of the area where you look=20 for it.=20 =B0=B0=B0 Here in Austria i haven=B4t seen it the last 5 Years. But it=20 =B0=B0=B0 should=B4nt be unable to get it 6 Years after release hmm?=20 =B0=B0=B0 Sahll I take a look for it for you?=20 =20 =B0=B0=B0 Regards=20 =20 =B0=B0 Josef=20 =20 =20 _________________________________________=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 23:06:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) RADIOAKTIVITAT CD ? >This week I saw one with the following informations: >- title: Radioaktivitat. >- made in Holland. >Does somebody know that version of the CD? Hi Roger. I own the version of the Radioactivitaet CD you are talking about. Made and printed in Holland, the disc is manufactured by EMI Electrola, and is the basic German issue of the album currently on CD (0777 7 46132 2 4). The main difference between this one and other 'Radioactivity' CDs is that this one contains the German song titles on the album cover and disc rather than the English ones. The recording itself however, is identical to all other copies since this album was not released in separate language versions as was 'Trans-Europe Express' and all albums that followed thereafter. >Is the sound quality good for a CD version? Sure, the sound quality is just fine, but not noticeably any different from the English title version of the same disc which is usually far less expensive, particularly here in the USA where it's not an import. >Is it worth double the regular CD price? Not unless you're a collector. I bought it in addition to my other CD copies of 'Radio-Activity' only because I am something of a fanatical completist (a.k.a. a nut) when it comes to Kraftwerk (ROBOT: See sis, you ain't alone). :-) However, if you're looking to just own A copy of this album on CD, I'd recommend you go with the regular version at half the price if you can track it down thru mail order online or somewhere else. >Could it be some kind of "unofficial" version because I can't see the >name of >any Record Company on the outside of the CD case? Again, this CD is official and is the current EMI Electrola German title edition of the CD which is currently in print. HMV Records in America has been importing this one in larger quantites more recently, as they have also been doing with the other German-language EMI Electrola releases on CD. Hope this helps. - -- Scott nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 00:08:42 -0400 From: Regor@webtv.net (R. D.) Subject: Re: (kw) RADIOAKTIVITAT CD ? Hi Scott ! ThanKs A LOT for the info. I was expecting an answer maybe in a couple of days, because I am on the "Digest" version of the KW list. Your personal response (in addition to the one for the list) MADE MY DAY ! Now that you inform me that it is an "official" version, I don't even care that it is double the price of a regular CD, because there is no "domestic" version available anyway and I want to listen to that important KW CD. So I'm gonna buy that CD tomorrow and enjoy it (hopefully) for a long, long time... That's what this list is=A0all about ! KW lives on... even without a new CD on the marKet ! - -- Roger Regor@webtv.net Using WebTV since 01/09/97. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 01:11:17 -0400 (EDT) From: EJRSemiGod@aol.com Subject: (kw) KW: An Introduction.. Well..I just joined this little (well not so little) kraftwerk mailing list, and man, is it informational already! Only after a few hours even! I heard bout this from IRC (can't think of the name at the moment, but it's an op from the UK (england!) ). I personally, up until last year, had never heard of kraftwerk, then I saw the video (and taped it!) for "pocket calculator". I was hooked. With dorky looking guys hitting hand held pads making music..Man..It was too cool. So..I did a little research with my friends, and I found that one of them has quite a few KW CDs/Tapes. I immediately borrowed and bought Computer World from him and listened it to death. I found Autobahn on CD and snatched that up too. I went to kraftwerk.com just a week ago to see if it existed, and lo and behold, there's about 238546734 kraftwerk fans out there with web pages! After all this fun stuff, I borrowed by friend's tape of "the mix", from which I was not impressed, so I bought "Radio-Activity". I was stunned that they could keep up with the style of music for this long! All of the above happened in about a 2 month period of time :) News of the new CD is great, and I hope to learn more than I contribute to this list! see ya all. Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 06:46:43 +0200 (MEST) From: Alexander Peter Zillner Subject: Re: (kw) Linz seating/standing question Hi! On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 PRODUKT01@aol.com wrote: > My question is: which are better tickets, seated or standing? > which are closer to the stage? Standing! Greetings from Austria zilli *********************** Alexander Peter Zillner EDV-Beratung Schussweg 8 4210 Unterweitersdorf *********************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 18:25:10 +1000 From: Adam Read Subject: Re: (kw) RADIOAKTIVITAT CD ? Scott M. Barnhill wrote: > >This week I saw one with the following informations: > >- title: Radioaktivitat. > >- made in Holland. > >Does somebody know that version of the CD? > > >Is it worth double the regular CD price? > > Not unless you're a collector. I bought it in addition to my > other > CD copies of 'Radio-Activity' only because I am something of a > fanatical > completist (a.k.a. a nut) when it comes to Kraftwerk The record shops here in Sydney also have suddenly got copies of UK Robots and Radioactivity and German Radioactivitat. Have these been re-released, or is the record company trying to move the old copies that didn't sell in 1991. Adam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 18:28:39 +1000 From: Adam Read Subject: Re: (kw) Linz seating/standing question Alexander Peter Zillner wrote: > > My question is: which are better tickets, seated or standing? > > which are closer to the stage? > Standing! My german is not too good. What is german for sitting and standing so I work out what my ticket says. Adam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 18:36:53 +1000 From: Adam Read Subject: (kw) Karlsruhe (Linz ?)gig - list update. > > >1 Carsten Bolte DepecheCBI@aol.com > > >2 Dirk Fellhauer D.Fellhauer@Fh-Worms.de > > >3 Roland Metzger Roland_Metzger@compuserve.com > > >4 Leon Mols Imols@pi.net > > >5 Adam (L) Read adamr@world.net > > >6 Dennis Berggren dennis@octoprod.se > > >7 Josef Gabler josefgabler@magnet.at > > >8 Erik Barth dbarth@xs4all.nl > > >9 Harald Westphal unhj@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de > > >10 Bas van Reeuwijk > W.B.vanReeuwijk@research.kpn.com > > >11 Oliver Hebel > olihebel@hrz1.hrz.th-darmstadt.de > > >12 Morten Moen morten.moen@online.no > > >13 Dolf Wiemer twingo@xs4all.nl > > >14 Judith van der Veer judithvdv@freemail.nl > > >15 Hil Boorsma boorsma@tn.tudelft.nl > > >16 Bob Smeets admosam@xs4all.nl > > >17 Maureen Jansen - > > >18 Edwin Wisse wisse@nlr.nl > > >19 Joerg-Stefan Sell jss@onestone.de > > >20 Anders Wilhelm trafo@analogue.org > > >21 Carl-Johan Rasch calle@ixcjr.uniweb.se > > >22 Ola Andersson rand@ling.umu.se > > >23 Anders Eriksson anderse@ling.umu.se > > >24 Rickard Hidefj=E4ll ma94rhi@tdb.uu.se > > >25 Morgan Karlsson network@analogue.org > > >26 Rickard Klasic rick@analogue.org > > >27 Conny Fornb=E4ck conny.annica@wineasy.se > > >28 Mats Kadmark mats.kadmark@gfs.gu.se > > >29 Thomas Weckert tweckert@ernie.mi.uni-koeln.de > > >30 Christoph Soltmannowski soltoc@dial.eunet.ch > > >31 Jules Seifert jseifert@cableinet.co.uk > > >32 EDUARDO MONTEIRO (BRASIL) 97fm@colatina.com.br > > 33 Wenche Aune wencheok@online.no > > 34 Henrik Brevenius > henrik.brevenius@sweden.sun.com The dates draw closer and I am starting to think about packing a suitcase. Do we have the beginnings of a plan yet? Are many on the list going to the Linz Posthof show? I suppose we just need a time and maybe someone who lives in the cities might suggest an appropriate meeting place. Suggestions? Adam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 12:23:30 +0000 From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Tribal Gathering 97 concert on CD for sale > >Kraftwerk at TRIBAL GATHERING 97 - The full concert on CD > >This is the full Tribal Gathering Kraftwerk concert, not > >the amputated BBC session - It's the full 90 Minutes, and as > >a bonus a Japanese concert containing a very long live version > >of autobahn. Is this a "real" bootleg CD or a homemade CD-R recording? 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