From: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com (kraftwerk Digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk Digest V3 #153 Reply-To: kraftwerk@xmission.com Sender: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com Precedence: kraftwerk Digest Wednesday, October 8 1997 Volume 03 : Number 153 In this issue: (kw) re: LA Duesseldorf Re: (kw) New Songs (kw) Florian Schneider's university activities (kw) Multimediale 5 on TV Re: (kw) Looking for early stuff on CD. (kw) FWD : kraftwerk synths?????? (kw) Florian im Schule (kw) Help please!!! Re: (kw) Looking for early stuff on CD. Re: (kw) Help please!!! Re: (kw) Help please!!! (kw) "Ultra Rare Tracks" (kw) Info required Re: (kw) Help please!!! (kw) Fleamarkets (kw) Re: New album rumour Re: (kw) Fleamarkets (kw) HI! (kw) The new song...YES! I WANT IT! Re: (kw) Help please!!! Re: (kw) Info required Re: (kw) "Ultra Rare Tracks" Re: (kw) Florian im Schule (kw) It's Here at last...! (kw) Post KW output - what's best (kw) WARNING!!!! URGENT!!! LOOK WHAT THEY TRY TO DO WITH US! Re: (kw) Bootleg and Hotel Tips Re: (kw) WARNING!!!! URGENT!!! LOOK WHAT THEY TRY TO DO WITH US! (kw) new member introduction Re: (kw) WARNING!!!! URGENT!!! LOOK WHAT THEY TRY TO DO WITH US! (kw) Olympic CD (kw) ADMINISTRIVIA: Admin Goes West (read) Re: (kw) WARNING!!!! URGENT!!! LOOK WHAT THEY TRY TO DO WITH US! (kw) New on the list (again). (kw) Bootleg LP's KW1... See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the kraftwerk or kraftwerk-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:57:46 -0400 From: MCINTYRE@pa.msu.edu Subject: (kw) re: LA Duesseldorf >From: Arnaud de Bonald >In a Simple Minds interview, I heard about a german group called >"LA Duesseldorf", not really sure of the name... LA Duesseldorf was the band formed by Klaus Dinger (drummer on the first Kraftwerk album) after he left Neu!. They put out three albums before disbanding. Recently Dinger has revived the franchise with a new album and the original three albums are all now available on CD. The sound is sorta in a Kraftwerk vein, but much simplier, sorta "bubblegum Krautrock". I suggest listening before purchasing. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@pa.msu.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:42:15 +0100 From: Mark Reed Subject: Re: (kw) New Songs I >*WOW* >This is very interesting news! Maybe Herr Professor Schneider is not as >"shy" and afraid of people as he would have us believe. Do those Students >know how LUCKY they are? Maybe we can sneak in and sign up for his classes. >-(Music theory? Electronic composition, perhaps? Whatever he's teaching, >I'll TAKE it!)- More great news: KW will be playing some new songs at ZKM! >Thank you for this juicy tid-bit, Gerd- Welcome to the KRAFTWERK Mail List! Anyone whose seen Kraftwerk should know Florian is a bit of a show off, actually.. those funny frowns and gestures, the prancing to Pocket Calculator - (Did anybody seen him play air guitar with the calculator in Luton? - best thing I've seen all YEAR), and last but not least, that amazing dash during Music Non Stop when he thought no-one was looking.. he literally bolted off-stage... "Hey, where all the girls?" - Florian on tour, 1991. Also, ROBOT, sorry you haven't seen the boys.. I just wanted to share... See yas all, Mark xx - -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 20:19:22 +0200 (DFT) From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Florian Schneider's university activities > > Florian Schneider has been offered a professorship at the Hochschule for > > Gestaltung (something of a university of modern arts). > > *WOW* > This is very interesting news! Especially since Florian Schneider doesn't have the formal qualification for becoming a professor at a German university. :-) AFAIK he doesn't even have a university degree. BTW: The saga goes that Schneider did a lecture on speech synthesis at Duesseldorf university back in 1982. Is anyone able to confirm this? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 20:22:25 +0200 (DFT) From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Multimediale 5 on TV The German/Austrian/Swiss TV channel 3-Sat will report live from the Multimediale 5 opening on Saturday, October 18th, 20:15 - 21:45 CET. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 20:42:59 +0100 From: mars.sjoestrand@stockholm.mail.telia.com Subject: Re: (kw) Looking for early stuff on CD. Eric Oehler wrote: >=20 > I too, am searching for early Werk, on CD. Primarily Autobahn but 1,2, > and R&F would be groovy too, if they exist. I assume if they exist, > they're bootlegs... >=20 > Can anyone point me in the right direction? Yes I ordered Ralf & Florian from hotstuff, http://www.hotstuff.se Got it after a week. M=E5ns Wenn Wellen schwingen - Ferne stimmen singen.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 23:46:57 +0100 From: jbv Subject: (kw) FWD : kraftwerk synths?????? Here are some excerpts of a discussion running on the AH list : (BTW, is it respective to the netiquette to forward stuff from one list to another, just like that ?) jbv - ------ what where some of the synths used throughout the years by kraftwerk, im ecspecially interested in the polys they have used. and things they used on "the mix" tracks. - ------ I believe by the time they got to "The Mix" they were using almost only their own hand made gear. Something you could never hope to reproduce. I know that early on before they built their stuff they used all your famous stuff like the memorymoog and arp's and all that. Ogre DieInWintr@aol.com - ------- Actually - much of the gear these days is not probably not "home-made" but more likely digital/sampler based etc plus a lot of german/european gear like doepfer, quasimidi, and waldorf....I don't think they still use the Synclavier but it is possible......I've never heard of their use of a memorymoog - this is what they most likely did use: roland MC-8 (positive) minimoog (positive) arp odyssey (positive) polymoog (positive) EMS VSC3 - (speculative, but most likely) EMS Vocoder (speculative...) Sennheiser Vocoder (positive) Korg PS3300 (speculative) DX-7 (speculative, but most likely) Synclavier (positive) Fairlight (speculative) Prophet-5 (on CW tour maybe album...) Engineer-enhanced drums - metal to metal closed switch (wolfgang had considerably more pads than karl at his "station!) Vako Orchestron (positive) other small moogs like micro, multi etc (speculative) plus loads of other delays, flange, reverb, CV routing systems, mixers, extended MC-8 memories etc et etc..... ta! SRRecords@aol.com - ------- In a video clip I saw of the band performing "Autobahn," Ralf was playing the bassline with his left hand on a Minimoog, while his right hand was playing some unidentifiable keyboard (Farfisa?). Florian played a white-faced Odyssey. >other small moogs like micro, multi etc (speculative) In a picture that was published in Mojo, Ralf is playing a synth that is either a Multimoog or Micromoog, as it has those distinctive endpieces. Unfortunately for analog trainspotters, the picture is from the side, so it is unclear which of the two synths it is. Sean Costello # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 23:46:38 +0100 From: jbv Subject: (kw) Florian im Schule >...Florian Schneider has been >offered a professorship at the Hochschule >for Gestaltung (something of a university >of modern arts). Let's hope he will not become as pretentious and boring as Eno... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 21:35:38 +0100 From: "Simon Gray" Subject: (kw) Help please!!! Can anyone help me please....??? I have two requests.... 1) Which album (UK) is Tour de France on??? 2) What albums are missing from my collection??? I have... Tone Float Kraftwerk 1 Kraftwerk 2 Autobahn Radioactivity The Man Machine Trans Europe Express Computerworld Electric Cafe The Mix Many thanks in advance... Simon. P.S any new news on the new album...???? and does anyone have the new song in full in mp3 or ram format???? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 20:11:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "John B. Morgan" Subject: Re: (kw) Looking for early stuff on CD. On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Eric Oehler wrote: > I too, am searching for early Werk, on CD. Primarily Autobahn but 1,2, > and R&F would be groovy too, if they exist. I assume if they exist, > they're bootlegs... Assuming you're in the US, you can still get "Autobahn" as an import from Germany for about $20 USD. I've seen all of the others (including "Tone Float") as bootlegs for about the same price, on the Germanofon label. They're hard to find, but are around. John Morgan "On your way home tonight, someone may pass The University of Michigan you in the darkness - and you'll never jbmorgan@umich.edu know it! - for they will be from outer http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jbmorgan/ space..." - Criswell, "Plan 9 including The Colin Wilson Page from Outer Space" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 21:50:30 -0400 From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) Help please!!! >Can anyone help me please....??? >I have two requests.... > >1) Which album (UK) is Tour de France on??? It isn't. "Tour de France" was only released as a 7" and 12", and did not appear on any actual KW album. >2) What albums are missing from my collection??? I have... > > Tone Float > Kraftwerk 1 > Kraftwerk 2 > Autobahn > Radioactivity > The Man Machine > Trans Europe Express > Computerworld > Electric Cafe > The Mix The only one you're missing is 'Ralf & Florian' from 1973 which falls chronologically in between 'Kraftwerk 2' and 'Autobahn'. - -- Scott nebulous@erols.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 04:20:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "John B. Morgan" Subject: Re: (kw) Help please!!! On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Scott M. Barnhill wrote: > It isn't. "Tour de France" was only released as a 7" and 12", and > did not appear on any actual KW album. Wasn't it released as part of a compilation album called "DJ's Best" or something like that? How good is this piece, anyway? John Morgan "On your way home tonight, someone may pass The University of Michigan you in the darkness - and you'll never jbmorgan@umich.edu know it! - for they will be from outer http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jbmorgan/ space..." - Criswell, "Plan 9 including The Colin Wilson Page from Outer Space" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 04:21:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "John B. Morgan" Subject: (kw) "Ultra Rare Tracks" Can anyone tell me what is included on the KW bootleg CD "Ultra Rare Tracks"? Does it live up to its name? John Morgan "On your way home tonight, someone may pass The University of Michigan you in the darkness - and you'll never jbmorgan@umich.edu know it! - for they will be from outer http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jbmorgan/ space..." - Criswell, "Plan 9 including The Colin Wilson Page from Outer Space" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:52:49 +0100 From: David Barnard Subject: (kw) Info required Please can someone give me some info on the LP "Exceller 8" which I have seen advertised. Apparently K/W released it on Vertigo in 1975. Cheers David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 11:05:33 +0100 From: Tobi Subject: Re: (kw) Help please!!! > "John B. Morgan" wrote: > Wasn't it released as part of a compilation album called "DJ's Best" or > something like that? Right, there is a quite bad recorded version (somehow damped as if recorded from a heavily used tape) on the sampler you mentioned. It was released by the german city / lifestyle magazine "Prinz" and as far as I remember it also includes tracks of George Kranz (Trommeltanz / Din daa daa), Snap (The Power), Unknown Cases (Masimba bele), Georgie Red (If I say stop then stop), Ledernacken (Amok) and and and... They are all german dancefloor productions and most of them are ugly (even the Toten Hosen are there with "Hip hop bommi bop"...). In the liner notes someone (probably Michael Reinboth, but I only suggest) is very proud about being the first label that released a sampler containing a Kraftwerk track. Who knows what tricks they played to get that lo-fi version from Kling-Klang. - -bi Nofrontiere Design GmbH Zinckgasse 20-22 A-1150 Vienna Austria t +43-1-9855750 f +43-1-98557503 tobi@nofrontiere.com http://www.nofrontiere.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 11:16:20 +0100 From: Thomas Helvard Subject: (kw) Fleamarkets Fleamarkets can be a good place to find old Kraftwerk-records. A friend of mine got 'Tour de France' on 12" for something like 2-3=A3.=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 02:29:39 PDT From: "klaus olsen" Subject: (kw) Re: New album rumour I find the idea that EMI Records has a say in deciding whether new kw material is good enough for release or not quite interesting. It has always been under the impression that kw was in a position of complete artistic control of their work. That they deliver the finished product, mastertape and artwork, to EMI who simply handle the actual manufacturing and distribution of the records. Or maybe I´m wrong? Klaus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:48:05 +0000 From: "Craig Land" Subject: Re: (kw) Fleamarkets Try also car boot sales. With the belief among the populous that vinyl is dead, many people pack their cars full of their unwanted stuff, which includes vinyl and sell it at various car boot sales, usually on a Sunday through-out England. I picked up the Showroom Dummies 12 inch (the version with the Man Machine artwork) for 50 pence!! And the condition was and still is mint. Best Regards, Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 11:14:51 +0100 From: Thomas Helvard Subject: (kw) HI! HI! My name is Thomas, and I live in a small town 20 km north of Copenhagen, Denmark. I've been a fan of Kraftwerk for many years but only recently found out about this whole mailing-list business. So I'm looking forward to being a subscriber for a long time! Someone asked about Autobahn on CD. In Denmark the CD is pretty common and I've seen it many times just lying around in record shops and so on...!! Thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:57:39 +0200 From: "Charlie Crash" <303@iname.com> Subject: (kw) The new song...YES! I WANT IT! I've heard so much about this freaking song now and I've still not seen anyone having it on their site (when I'm there, that is...), but I'm read= y to mail a zip-disk to anyone who has the entire song for a transfer - You'll get my latest single as payment for you effort. ...ready to blow... ///Charlie Crash =AE0|=E1=D1=F0 =86b=AD 303@iname.com T=87=E9 =D9|=86=A1m=E0t=EB =D0=E2=F1= =E7=EAm=AA=A9h=A1=F1=CB=99 http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/6157/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:27:44 -0400 From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) Help please!!! >> It isn't. "Tour de France" was only released as a 7" and 12", and >> did not appear on any actual KW album. >Wasn't it released as part of a compilation album called "DJ's Best" or >something like that? > >How good is this piece, anyway? Yes, it was released on a German CD compilation called "DJ's Best", but as far as being released on any actual Kraftwerk album goes, it was not. How good is this piece? Well, I suppose that's largely subject to opinion, but I for one love the song very much and it's safe to say that most KW fans do as well. To the best of my knowledge, Kraftwerk has been performing this song live in practically every live gig since '90, and two music videos had been made for it after the song first came out in '83. It's still regarded as one of KW's all-time classics. - -- Scott nebulous@erols.com "Tour de France, Tour de France..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:41:54 -0400 From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) Info required >Please can someone give me some info on the LP "Exceller 8" which I have >seen advertised. Apparently K/W released it on Vertigo in 1975. Hi David. Well, basically 'Exceller 8' is simply a compilation album which consists of the following 8 tracks taken from the first four KW albums (not counting 'Tone Float'): Ruckzuck Autobahn Tongebirge Kristallo Comet Melody 2 Klingklang Vom Himmel Hoch Stratovarius 'Exceller 8' was released in 1974, and is most commonly found on LP, although it was also released as a cassette and supposedly even an 8-track in some country. - -- Scott nebulous@erols.com "Wir fahr'n fahr'n fahr'n auf der Autobahn..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:41:56 -0400 From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) "Ultra Rare Tracks" >Can anyone tell me what is included on the KW bootleg CD "Ultra Rare >Tracks"? Does it live up to its name? Don't be misled by the title of this one. "Ultra Rare Trax" is simply a bootleg remix compilation on CD. What this means is that there are NO authentic Kraftwerk songs on this release, but rather a collection of various DJ remixes made using actual Kraftwerk songs. The track listing is as follows: Computer World (klick mix) Pocket Calculator (east meets west mix) Music - Non Stop (cut up mix) Trans Europe Express (t.e.e. mix) The Robots (program mix) Autobahn (peoples car mix) Europe Endless (open border mix) The Man-Machine (space mix) The Model (catbonic mix) Neon Lights (ton-up mix) Showroom Dummies (m.c.m.g. mix) I for one have never been a huge fan of DJ remixes, and all I've really heard about 'Ultra Rare Trax' is that it has excellent sound quality yet boring remixes. - -- Scott nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind Schaufensterpuppen..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 10:21:14 EDT From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: (kw) Florian im Schule On Mon, 06 Oct 1997 23:46:38 +0100 jbv writes: > > >Let's hope he will not become as pretentious and boring as Eno... pretentious maybe, but never boring.... tom w np: eno - the drop # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:10:46 +0000 From: "Craig Land" Subject: (kw) It's Here at last...! Well as promised we have finally completed our corporate web site, for all you KW fans out there, as I mentioned in an earlier mail, see if you can guess where the circuit board idea came from (no music komix i'm afraid!!). I even get a mention on our Quality page, wow is this my fifteen minutes of stardom?! Have fun and if any of you technical buffs have any comments or ideas you may want to make, do not hesitate to let me know. www.cascom.memec.com Simon, are you awake yet......! Cheers, Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 7:57:13 +0100 From: Subject: (kw) Post KW output - what's best Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 22:24:25 -0400 From: Alex Laney Subject: (kw) Post KW output - what's best Of the output of former KW members, what is your favorite or what do you think is the best? I only have the green Electronic album which I didn't like much and the Mouse on Mars Iaora Tahiti. Which sounds pretty interesting. Both albums have former KW'ers but they are definitely guest type appearances. I am looking for the Yamo album and the newest Mouse on Mars, but it isn't too easy here in Ottawa, Canada... :-( Alex Laney I'd say that the swedish group "Mobile Homes" got a lot better with Karl Ba= rtos=20 on keyboards on the (mini) album "Meanwhile", Elektrik Music and Yamo is al= so=20 really good! But I dont have the first EM single "crosstalk" anyone have on= e=20 copy for sale? //Andreas Schuldt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:58:28 +0000 From: "Miguel Angel Esteban" Subject: (kw) WARNING!!!! URGENT!!! LOOK WHAT THEY TRY TO DO WITH US! Look enclosed a forward with a message that has been received by teh most part (if not all) of the Jarre sites in the world. Seems they're trying to erase all the unofficial Jarre sites in the world. What do you thing? Be careful over there :-( Miguel. - ---------- Start of Forward------------------- From: duth@iddn.org To: fairlight_jarre@arrakis.es Date sent: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 17:03:43 +0000 Subject: Respect of the copyright Priority: normal You are so much fond of Jean-Michel JARRE that you propose his works in digital form on your Internet site. Do you know that the diffusion of artistic works is regulated at the international level ? (Berne Convention and WIPO Copyright Treaty). A recording of infringement concerning your site has been drawn up by an agent on oath of the APP, the European organization of software authors and information technology professionals (http://app.legalis.net/paris). Nevertheless you have the possibility either to send us the evidences of authorizations or to remove spontaneously the elements you are not the author of and those you have not obtained the necessary rights, within one week. We address the present piece of advice to you in accordance with the proxy you can consult on line http://www.iddn.org/jarre/ For lack of regularization within the allotted time we will be led to make use of the necessary legal proceedings and technical measures. Thank you to acknowledge receipt of this message. Daniel Duthil http://www.iddn.org/ - ---------------------------------------- ;-| wwWWww [o][o] - ------------------------ooO--(__)--Ooo----------------------------------- Fairlight Jarre Newsletter. Fanzine by the Spanish J.M. Jarre Fanclub email : fairlight_jarre@arrakis.es web : http://www.arrakis.es/~maec Price per issue: 150 pesetas - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question, the answer is no. ========================================================================= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 16:00:06 +0200 From: Olf Ranthiz Subject: Re: (kw) Bootleg and Hotel Tips PS I will be staying with 4 friends of mine at the quiet luxurious Queen= s Hotel in Karlsruhe. They have a special weekend rate for just DEM 120. Normally you would pay double. It is supposed to be near the Bahnhof. I live next door to the Quenns Hotel(which is BTW 5 Minutes from the "Bahnhof", per pedes). We might meet befor the gig. It is also just a ten minutes footwalk to the ZKM, where the Concert takes place. - -- take care tf ************************************************************* "Drinking and smoking are bad for the health" -Charles Bukowski # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:25:56 -0700 From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) WARNING!!!! URGENT!!! LOOK WHAT THEY TRY TO DO WITH US! > From: Miguel Angel Esteban > Subject: (kw) WARNING!!!! URGENT!!! LOOK WHAT THEY TRY TO DO WITH US! > Date: Tuesday, October 07, 1997 9:58 AM > Seems they're trying to erase all the unofficial Jarre sites in the > world. Bah. That's like when Paramount tried to close down all the STAR TREK WebSites. -(Copyrighted images & sounds, etc)- They did not succeed. Fellow TREKKIES raised a fuss and proved that they were not out to make any profit, and the Fans prevailed. The same goes for MusiK. Besides, considering the fact that Jarre played a special one-time performance on a radio broadcast -(10-15 years ago?)- and invited home listeners to record it freely, I seriously doubt that he personally would be upset about Fans sharing his lovely tunes. -(He then had one album of this performance pressed on swirly-colored vinyl and it was auctioned off- for charity, I think.)- As for Ralf & Florian, if they told us to knock it off, well, I'd cry a lot, but, I'd respect their wishes. -(*HeeHee* Just wait til I get my HomePage set up. No sounds, but, there'll be some silly drawings! I hope R&F have a sense of humor.)- Anyway, let's not panic.... yet. ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT -(Foto & Profile/Personal Data)- http://www.scifi.com -(I live in The DOMINION Lounge. Same Foto, different Text.)- +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:04:42 -0400 (EDT) From: WG29584@aol.com Subject: (kw) new member introduction Hello Kraftwerk fans. I have just joined the internet for the purpose of joining this Krasftwerk list which a good friend told me about. Unfortunately I am not very good at typing. This is the first message I've sent to this list and one of the first electrnic mails I have ever sent. I am a Kraftwerk fan for 16 years. Computer World did my heads in when it first came out. After this I bought Autoobahn, The Man Machine, Trans Europe Express, and later Electric Cafe and The Mix when they came out. This year I wanted to see Tribal Gathering but UI am a bit too old for this. I was told new material was played from the new album. Maybe list members kmnow when the new album is out?? Kindest Regards to all, 'Ferdy' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 16:26:29 EDT From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: (kw) WARNING!!!! URGENT!!! LOOK WHAT THEY TRY TO DO WITH US! On Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:58:28 +0000 "Miguel Angel Esteban" writes: > >Look enclosed a forward with a message that has been received by teh >most part (if not all) of the Jarre sites in the world. Seems they're >trying to erase all the unofficial Jarre sites in the world. > > >What do you thing? > > >Be careful over there :-( > > >Miguel. > > >---------- Start of Forward------------------- > >From: duth@iddn.org >To: fairlight_jarre@arrakis.es >Date sent: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 17:03:43 +0000 >Subject: Respect of the copyright >Priority: normal > > > > >You are so much fond of Jean-Michel JARRE that you propose his >works in digital form on your Internet site. Do you know that >the diffusion of artistic works is regulated at the >international level ? (Berne Convention and WIPO Copyright >Treaty). A recording of infringement concerning your site has >been drawn up by an agent on oath of the APP, the European >organization of software authors and information technology >professionals (http://app.legalis.net/paris). > >Nevertheless you have the possibility either to send us the >evidences of authorizations or to remove spontaneously the >elements you are not the author of and those you have not >obtained the necessary rights, within one week. > >We address the present piece of advice to you in accordance with >the proxy you can consult on line http://www.iddn.org/jarre/ > >For lack of regularization within the allotted time we will be >led to make use of the necessary legal proceedings and technical >measures. > >Thank you to acknowledge receipt of this message. > >Daniel Duthil > >http://www.iddn.org/ >---------------------------------------- the exact same type of message was received by various members of the tangerine dream list...its beyond a shame....its an affront to every fan in the world...vampires i say...tom w np: lee '" scratch" perry - vampires # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 23:23:30 +0000 From: "Jose Garcia" Subject: (kw) Olympic CD > Subject: (kw) Olympic CD Can anyone explain what the famous Olympic CD is? Is it worth it? I just subscribed to the list when all the discussions about the CD were going on. Jose Garcia Aktivitaet Spain: aktivitat@arrakis.es Aktivitaet Online (Unofficial Kraftwerk fanzine) http://www.arrakis.es/~jgc/aktivitat.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:42:49 -0600 (MDT) From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (kw) ADMINISTRIVIA: Admin Goes West (read) Just FYI: I will be (mostly) offline Friday 10/10 through Monday 10/13. This should only affect you if you are trying to do one of the following things: * Post a message to the list from an address other than you one you joined from * Leave the list from an address other than you one you joined from * Post a message to the list with excessive quoting of another message in it * Post a message to the list that looks like an administrative request * Post a message to the list with MIME or binary content In other words, if you post something over the weekend and it doesn't show up, it may have been caught by one of the junk filters on the list and would therefore be dealt with when I return on Tuesday. Please don't panic. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:58:56 +0000 From: "Craig Land" Subject: Re: (kw) WARNING!!!! URGENT!!! LOOK WHAT THEY TRY TO DO WITH US! This must be the Jarre album that it is considered to be the rarest album in the world, 'Music for Supermarkets'. Best Regards, Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:14:20 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sch=E4der_Eric?= Subject: (kw) New on the list (again). Hi everybody ! I'm back on the list. Not that I think that any of you remember me (how could you? I never posted anything the last time). Soon after I joind the list the guy who's in charge of the mailing system where I work = made a mess off everything and my adress ceased to exist for some months so = I was probably automaticly cut from the list. Anyway, now I back = (finally, phew) and my name is Eric and at this moment I live in Lund (Sweden = that is). After some moving around in Sweden and abroad I've ended up here with wife and family. By the way, it's a goooood place to end up in. My first contact with Kraftwerk was when I was in the army (at that = time you had to make time in the army in Sweden, if you didn=B4t want to, = you got thrown in jail. A true story). One morning I awoke to the tunes of Robots (couldn't think off a better place to hear it in) and I was = stuck for life?. By some bizare reason I can't get access to the Kraftwerk FAQ (The company I work for seems to prevent it) so maybe you nice persons on = the list could help me with some questions. What about Mobile Homes and Karl Bartos. What about Electronic and Karl Bartos. What does YAMO sound like. What is Mouse on Mars and how is it related to Kraftwerk. What's the latest about any new KW album (by the way, I listend to the clip from TG, the new song, and I really liked it). Are there any new members in KW or are they just two and firends. The only Bootie I have is called Machine (and I think it's quite good too). Any tips on any other booties that are worth chasing. (with good soundquality that is). If this already has been debated to the bone on the list, please don't hesitate to mail me in person.=20 Even though I have a fairly big record collection (to big if you ask my wife, so I don't) There are not that many bands that I find worth to have all the albums off but offcourse Kraftwerk (don't have all of them though... sniff, am missing the early ones). Other bands that allways have followed me in life is Yello, Joy Division, New Order, Visage, The Cure, Ultravox, Talking Heads, Prince and The Police. Nowadays I mostly buy techno, hip-hop, metall, dub, world music (don't you just hate that silly label, but you know what I mean) and if possible a combination of all of it. And not to forget, classical music, all genres. It's nice to be back. Se yall Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:27:40 +0000 From: "GUNTHER PoeCKER STUDENT" Subject: (kw) Bootleg LP's KW1... On the Bootleg LP's of Kraftwerk 1, 2 and R&F: You can tell it's a Bootleg if the Matrix number in the run-out groove does not correspond with the cataloge number on the sleeve. On original Philips pressings, it should always start with: 6305- for the german copies. (6305 058, -117 and -197, respectively). As the sleeve reproduction oft the bootlegs is excellent and the sound quality o.k., they are not such a rip-off. Buying the Germanofon CD's is certainly more sensible, though. Gunther # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk Digest V3 #153 ******************************* To subscribe to kraftwerk Digest, send the command: subscribe kraftwerk-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-kraftwerk": subscribe kraftwerk-digest local-kraftwerk@your.domain.net A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "kraftwerk-digest" in the commands above with "kraftwerk". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/kraftwerk/archive. 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