From: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com (kraftwerk Digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk Digest V3 #160 Reply-To: kraftwerk@xmission.com Sender: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com Precedence: kraftwerk Digest Sunday, October 19 1997 Volume 03 : Number 160 In this issue: (kw) You wait for ages then 3 come at once (kw) Lets Vote on It (kw) tapes from Kling-Klang Re: (kw) Linz Mailing List Meeting Report (kw) new album. Re: (kw) Lets Vote on It (kw) Re: kraftwerk Digest V3 #157 (kw) tapes from Kling-Klang Re: (kw) Technopop + meeting Florian Re: (kw) Phenomenal Linz Gig! Re: (kw) new album/CD Re: (kw) Lets Vote on It Re: (kw) Linz Gig Specials - update1 Re: (kw) Linz Gig Report Re: (kw) Phenomenal Linz Gig! (kw) 18-10, Urgent Favour, Please!!! (kw) Karlsruhe here we come!!!! (kw) Comming soon (kw) Article (kw) Linz Gig in the news Re: (kw) Linz Gig Report Re: (kw) Lets Vote on It (kw) After the Linz Gig... Re: (kw) Linz Gig in the news (kw) Live at The ZKM !!! (kw) KRAFTWERK LIVE - Linz Austria (kw) Life is good! Re: (kw) Life is good! (kw) KW in Miami, Fla Mar '98???? (kw) Interesting... (kw) Karlsruhe: KRAFTWERK live in concert !!! my short story (kw) Small Kraftwerk feature in todays 'Sunday Times' Re: (kw) Small Kraftwerk feature in todays 'Sunday Times' (kw) Karlsruhe Concert (kw) Abduced by the movil KlingKlang? (kw) Linz Gig in the news II See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the kraftwerk or kraftwerk-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:51:51 +0100 From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) You wait for ages then 3 come at once >Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 00:54:58 -0700 >From: "ROBOT" >two little traffic cones here, and.... *ARGH*! AnOther NEW song!" I tore >out half my hair, ran into my room, and cried myself to sleep. I just wanted to check: you _were_ joking? Calm down, or after the next concert you'll look like Florian! Kevin PS Or is that an incentive?! PPS Haven't seen any responses tom my email about the Orchestron/Optigan question, so was my observation correct (i.e. that it must have been an Optigan which was used on 'Radioactivity')? I'd like to get the FAQ list entry for this correct! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 11:03:10 -0600 (MDT) From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (kw) Lets Vote on It > Why don't we have an opinion poll where we ask the list members if > they think the album Technopop actually exists? Why don't we have an opinion poll where we ask the list members if they think the earth is flat? It would have about as much meaning, I think. If someone wants us to believe that Technopop was actually released in some form, let them trot out a copy of it. How hard would that be if the album had actually come out? - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 13:25:53 -0400 From: Jan Svenungsson Subject: (kw) tapes from Kling-Klang >> Recently there's been some debate whether the Technopop album actually= >> exist(ed). I believe this must be wrong (?) but would be very interested >> to hear from some well informed list-member how did it happen that tho= se >> Technopop demos came out on the bootleg market? Somebody stole the tap= es >> from Kling-Klang or what? >I can't speak *specifically* to how the tapes got out, but it's not at a= ll >unusual for unreleased materal to "leak" out of a studio. There are thousands >of similar bootlegs out there by hundreds of different artists. Well, I always got the impression Kling-Klang was very different from oth= er studios. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 20:43:41 +0200 From: josefgabler@magnet.at Subject: Re: (kw) Linz Mailing List Meeting Report In message ID on 17.10.97,=20 Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at wrote:=20 >Alexander Peter Zillner wrote:=20 >=20 >>Hi!=20 >>Present Persons:=20 >=20 >>Josef Gabler=20 >>Friend of Josef Gabler=20 >=20 >I think Hubert was his name...?=20 =20 - -=B0-- Well, that=B4s right. =20 - -=B0-- He is maybee a little bit "crazy" but a good friend of mine=20 since over 10 Years.=20 - -=B0-- I=B4m still very serious!=20 - -=B0-- He photographed the show with his digital camera and Ralf looked=20 very strange =20 - -=B0-- to him. No bodycheck nowhere! My shooting was finished after=20 ManMachine... (Tschak)=20 - -=B0-- But the film already is in the developing machine (boingg)=20 :-)))))). =20 =20 - -=B0-- Hello,=20 - -=B0-- to all of you unlucky ones who had to be at home=20 - -=B0-- in their nice and cosy houses ;-). =20 - -=B0--I=B4m back from Linz this minute. (Just enjoyed "Linz by Night")=20 and =20 - -=B0-- left Linz with the EC comin from Cologne.=20 - -=B0-- YES, it was A M A Z I N G ! Absolutely great Gig. Florian smiled=20 into himself=20 - -=B0-- and was very funny joking whilst playing (hehe) his Mini=20 calculatore.=20 - -=B0-- No audience-playing this time .=20 - -=B0-- Ralf was very angry about all the flashes from little nice=20 pocketcameras and bigger ones.=20 - -=B0-- He left the stage not saying his "Gute Nacht". Poor Ralf! He=20 was a little bit sad...=20 - --=B0-- These Klaus from Germany has been on the toilette for over 20=20 minutes just to put on=20 - --=B0-- new trousers over his legs... boy, boy...=20 =20 =20 - -=B0-- I=B4m absolutely happy to met all the other crazy Kraftwerk-Guys=20 and not have=20 - -=B0-- to hurry now to go to Karlsruhe today. I got no ticket.=20 - -=B0-- So please don=B4t wait for me at your meeting. Another time -=20 maybee.=20 =20 - -=B0-- MS.: alpezi and me are the only one with a autograph from=20 Florian ! ! !=20 - -=B0-- He got one.=20 - -=B0-- I=B4m the clever guy which asked for a s e c o n d one!=20 - --=B0-- So: Get you nervous brakdown N O W ! =20 >=20 >>Georg Jajus=20 >>Adam Read=20 - -=B0-- The man from Kangarooland (No, alpezi told me he=B4s from New=20 sealand)=20 >>Florian Schneider (!!!!!!!)=20 - -=B0-- Don=B4t trust this message. It was just his ROBOT. =20 - -=B0-- (The coffe-drink and let=B4s-have-a-handy-phonecall- one ;-] )=20 >=20 >Oh ****! I was twenty minutes late, so I missed him.=20 - -=B0-- That=B4s the way things are...=20 =20 >>Klaus Zaepke=20 >>Johann Zawrel=20 >>Alexander Peter Zillner=20 =20 - -=B0-- Thanks for organizing this little nice meeting!=20 =20 >>Sabine Zillner=20 >>Thank you very much to all of the above persons, who made this=20 >>meetingpossible, and specially to Mr. Florian Schneider for talking=20 >>with us....=20 >>......to be continued.......=20 >=20 >Are there any photos? You and Florian?=20 - -=B0-- No of course not. We were to shy to ask him for that...=20 >=20 >Now I'll go and let develop my photos of the show... .=20 - -=B0-- Ein Tip von mir Georg. Lass ihn auf 1600 entwickeln.=20 - -=B0-- Ein zu helles Negativ kriegst Du immer leichter dunkler als=20 umgekehrt.=20 - -=B0-- Hoffe, dass Deine Muehe mit Tele und so nicht umsonst war. Aber=20 Du hast das ganz gut gemacht.=20 - -=B0--War lustig zum zuschauen!=20 =20 - -=B0-- Bye to you all!=20 - -=B0--And tell us about your great night tommorow!=20 =20 - -=B0-- j o s e f (with 2 autographs from Florian ) WAHNSINN! =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 - -=B0-- hehe=20 =20 =20 sent via an evaluation copy of BulkRate (unregistered).=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:38:41 +0100 From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) new album. Much as I hate to say this, I met Ralf in 1992 and he said that they had completed several tracks that were ready for release as well as having some more work-in-progress. This leads me to think that they have probably recorded and 'junked' several albums worth of material.. Hiowever three new tracks is hardly prolific, but proof that there is life in the old beast yet! Keep on 'werking.. - -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 19:24:32 +0100 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Lets Vote on It > > Why don't we have an opinion poll where we ask the list members if > > they think the album Technopop actually exists? > > Why don't we have an opinion poll where we ask the list members if they think > the earth is flat? It would have about as much meaning, I think. I agree. Why won't people just except that Technopop was never released? Bearing in mind the enormous interest in Kraftwerk at present, and the seemingly endless numbers of bootlegs that have followed, if the album existed outside of the Kling Klang archives you can bet your life someone would have a bootleg of it out by now. All that ever saw the light of day were the two demo versions that most of us are familiar with - end of story. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:15:45 -0700 From: Robert Schmeltzer Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk Digest V3 #157 >Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 20:13:17 +0100 >From: Kevin Busby >Subject: (kw) Orchestron or Optigan? > >OK, I've read several times in this list that the choir sound on >'Radioactivity' was provided by a Vako Orchestron. However, according to >The "Long-Lost Cousins" section ( http://www.pilot.com/optigan/cousins.html >) of the "Optiganally Yours" homepage:- > >> The Orchestron was originally developed by Opsonar around the time that the >> Optigan was on its death bed. The idea was to adapt the Optigan's technology >> into a more "professional" quality instrument which could compete with the >> Mellotron. After initial development by Opsonar, the >> Orchestron was adopted by Dave VanKoevering, formerly of Moog Music. His >> company, Vako, >> produced the Orchestron in a variety of models for a couple years >>starting in > about 1976 until it >> too kicked the bucket. > >Wasn't this a year after the 'Radio-Activity' album was released? So >wouldn't it have been an Optigan ( http://www.pilot.com/optigan/ ) that was >used, not an Orchestron? > >Kevin I've got a couple of Optigans and nearly every disk for them and I am 99% sure it is NOT the Optigan. The way I interpret the passage you quote is that Vako put out the Orchestron in 1976. I think the Optigan went out of production in 1972 or 1973 so maybe Kraftwerk got an early Orchestron. There is one other possibility that I haven't seen mentioned; Kraftwerk could have just made their own tape loop(s). Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:00:46 -0600 (MDT) From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (kw) tapes from Kling-Klang >> I can't speak *specifically* to how the tapes got out, but it's not at >> all unusual for unreleased materal to "leak" out of a studio. There >> are thousands of similar bootlegs out there by hundreds of different >> artists. > > Well, I always got the impression Kling-Klang was very different from > other studios. Short of existing in a dimension entirely separate from our own, there's no way that *any* studio (KlingKlang included) can completely prevent leaks of this nature. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 04:42:05 +0000 From: lbo@pop3.iol.it Subject: Re: (kw) Technopop + meeting Florian > I can't speak *specifically* to how the tapes got out, but it's not at all > unusual for unreleased materal to "leak" out of a studio. There are thousands I can agree with you and infact the world is full of boot, but if groups or their label are so gealous about that to do body inspections at the gate of gigs, is it not possible for them to monitorate who take care of certain critical activities in a studio? after all they should be realtively few people, and they could be bound by a contract to respect some practice... not that I matter a lot, I really prefere bootlegs to continue, just a thought that come to my mind because ithappened me to work about a particular piece of software for a particular company that could be very "lucrative" if another company of the competition could have notice of it and I had to sign a contract that take care of "leakages" of information... - ---------------- lbo@iol.it http://users.iol.it/lbo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 04:42:03 +0000 From: lbo@pop3.iol.it Subject: Re: (kw) Phenomenal Linz Gig! > as usual. Florian Schneider smiled sometimes and shaked to the rhythm m and did you told him that you bootlegged them to death, you double-tongued? (at last I hope you did... :-) ) > of the beat. A friend asked Fritz Hilpert, when the new Album will be > released, his answer was "Kommt schon". does it mean "coming soon" or "it will come a beatiful one"? - ---------------- lbo@iol.it http://users.iol.it/lbo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 04:42:05 +0000 From: lbo@pop3.iol.it Subject: Re: (kw) new album/CD > whenever the next Kraftwerk CD comes out, don't you feel becuase of age, > time and differing interest of the band, it'll be the last? well, why... the Chieftains plays together from so long time... :-) > Or do you think any of them will still play around Kling-Klang and try and > release an album in the next millenium, which ofcourse should be named millenium this could be a good concept for them. let's hope that they start reading the list... :-) - ---------------- lbo@iol.it http://users.iol.it/lbo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 04:42:06 +0000 From: lbo@pop3.iol.it Subject: Re: (kw) Lets Vote on It > > Why don't we have an opinion poll where we ask the list members if > > they think the album Technopop actually exists? > > Why don't we have an opinion poll where we ask the list members if they think > the earth is flat? It would have about as much meaning, I think. of course it's flat. actually is a big cd. they were the old ignorant people that believed it was a big vinyl, the fools. or maybe due to relativity effects it flat, yes, but wound up on itself like a tape. - ---------------- lbo@iol.it http://users.iol.it/lbo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 04:42:04 +0000 From: lbo@pop3.iol.it Subject: Re: (kw) Linz Gig Specials - update1 > Fritz or Henning (I dont remember) forgot to change the optical Disks hem hem, these two youngsters... :-) - ---------------- lbo@iol.it http://users.iol.it/lbo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 04:42:03 +0000 From: lbo@pop3.iol.it Subject: Re: (kw) Linz Gig Report > >Aetherwellen > > Wow, "Airwaves" live! That must have been a treat indeed! > indeed, and in which style did they played it, the old analogical one or the "new" pumped digital one of The mix? and I understood well, they played *the* Luton song *and* two new songs? they completed their duties for the next five years or so... :-) - ---------------- lbo@iol.it http://users.iol.it/lbo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 04:42:03 +0000 From: lbo@pop3.iol.it Subject: Re: (kw) Phenomenal Linz Gig! > > By the way: Ralf H=FCtter didn't seem to be in a good mood...he had a > > and didn't say "Gute Nacht" at the end of the concert > He wasn't able to do that, because he had no headset during Musique non but could you read his lips? :-) also, I remember in the Grassina concert to have spotted during the soundcheck a guy that look something like Ralf (and definitely with the crew) but that obviusly was not him, in company of a splendid blonde woman, both wearing elegant black leather suit. could him have been Emil Schult? did spendid black leathered blonde woman show off in the Linz occasion? - ---------------- lbo@iol.it http://users.iol.it/lbo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 04:42:06 +0000 From: lbo@pop3.iol.it Subject: (kw) 18-10, Urgent Favour, Please!!! hello, it's 4 AM of saturday 18 october, if someone is still reading this and going to Karlsruhe, could I ask a favour? I badly NEED an original blue Autobahn t-shirt and/or yrllow Radioactivity one, size Large or XL or more. I understood they should cost about 30-40 DM or so each. would some kind soul buy one or two for me, then emailing me, waiting for my cash and sending them to me? I was sure I could do it for my self at Karlsruhe, but it sold out so quickly! and a friend of mine went to Linz, but I'm working so hard these days I forgot to ask him on time (and I had not the time to read/answer email for three days!)! if you can't do that, and if there is this blue cube meeting, maybe you can refer by voice this request of mine to Klaus Zaepke, should he come there? some times ago we talked about his possibility, in the case I could not go to Karlsruhe, but I was so sure I have could done that! Klaus, if you can, buy me these one or two shirt! :-) cash waiting to be sent! and this time not like the magazine! :-) many thanks to all, and let's try to mix electronic and voice medium... - ---------------- lbo@iol.it http://users.iol.it/lbo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:26:14 +0200 From: Twingo on the Internet Subject: (kw) Karlsruhe here we come!!!! We are off to Karlsruhe: Bob & Maureen driving a Honda Civic Hil & Wim driving a Volkswagen Golf Judith & Twingo driving a Renault Twingo see you all at the Blue Cube. greetings, Twingo / / Twingo, the Netherlands - ----/---/---- http://www.xs4all.nl/~twingo / / http://www.xs4all.ml/~twingo/kraftwerk/kraftwerk.html / / twingo@xs4all.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 10:21:27 +0100 From: cats Subject: (kw) Comming soon I asked Fritz Hilpert at the name of the new songs, he tell me he dont know them (.....mmmmmh ). Then I call him after the release from the new album, his answer was 'kommt schon..' which means that it will apear......... > Fritz or Henning (I dont remember) forgot to change the optical Disks It was Fritz ! Bye, Johann # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 11:31:06 +0100 From: cats Subject: (kw) Article There is a 3/4 page review from the Linz concert in the austrian daily-newspaper 'Der STANDARD' bye, Johann # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:00:52 +0200 From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) Linz Gig in the news Articles about the Linz Gig can be found in "Die Presse", "Der Standard" and "Kurier". Georgie - -- ***********************Black*Box Online Community*********************** * palazzo - die virtuelle Bastelwelt | http://www.blackbox.at/palazzo/ * ************************************************************************ Black*Box FirstClass BBS: +43-1-4073132 (Modem) | http://www.blackbox.at # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 10:23:04 +0200 (MEST) From: Alexander Peter Zillner Subject: Re: (kw) Linz Gig Report Hi! On Sat, 18 Oct 1997 lbo@pop3.iol.it wrote: > indeed, and in which style did they played it, the old analogical one > or the "new" pumped digital one of The mix? new style and very short.... > and I understood well, they played *the* Luton song *and* two new > songs? they completed their duties for the next five years or so... Well, its hard to say, the first new song could be a new song with Aetherwellen acting as an intro, thats what I think, but Georgs theory is, that this was a new version of Aetherwellen, which of course can also be true, we will have to wait for the other guys, who heared the new stuff.... Greetings zilli ************************************** Alexander Peter Zillner - EDV Beratung Schussweg 8, A-4210 Unterweitersdorf +43-664-2114805, alpezi@zilli.priv.at ************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 11:16:22 +0000 From: "Ian J.Harris" Subject: Re: (kw) Lets Vote on It No, certainly not finished copies anyway. The tapes probably exisist in the KlingKlang archives though (and who would not KILL to get in there???) Ian J. Harris A novice in this ComputerWorld # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 14:58:02 +0200 From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) After the Linz Gig... Josef Gabler wrote: >He photographed the show with his digital camera and Ralf looked very >strange to him. No bodycheck nowhere! My shooting was finished after >ManMachine... (Tschak) But the film already is in the developing >machine (boingg)=20 Ralf looked also at me sometimes, I had the impression. But the securities didn't catch me. I'll get my developed negative-stripes at the beginning of next week. From the best shots, I'll take paper prints. >These Klaus from Germany has been on the toilette for over 20=20 >minutes just to put on new trousers over his legs... boy, boy...=20 When I was at the toilet ten minutes before, somebody (boy & girl) was having sex at the same toilet...;-)! >Ein Tip von mir Georg. Lass ihn auf 1600 entwickeln.=20 >Ein zu helles Negativ kriegst Du immer leichter dunkler als=20 >umgekehrt. Hoffe, dass Deine Muehe mit Tele und so nicht umsonst war. >Aber Du hast das ganz gut gemacht. War lustig zum zuschauen!=20 No problem...der Fuji G Plus 800 wird auch von Pressefotografen verwendet und vertr=E4gt =DCberbelichtungen von bis zu +4 Blenden. Ich hoffe nur, dass die Aufnahmen nicht allzu verwackelt sind und man zumindest einiges klar erkennen kann. Anfang n=E4chster Woche hab' ich die Negativstreifen, von denen ich mir die besten Shots herauspicken werde. Bis dann mit neuen Facts, Georgie - --=20 ***********************Black*Box Online Community*********************** * palazzo - die virtuelle Bastelwelt | http://www.blackbox.at/palazzo/ * ************************************************************************ Black*Box FirstClass BBS: +43-1-4073132 (Modem) | http://www.blackbox.at # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:08:56 +0200 (MEST) From: Alexander Peter Zillner Subject: Re: (kw) Linz Gig in the news Hi! On Sat, 18 Oct 1997, Georg Jajus wrote: > Articles about the Linz Gig can be found in "Die Presse", "Der > Standard" and "Kurier". and in the "Oberoesterreichische Nachrichten".......... Greetings zilli ************************************** Alexander Peter Zillner - EDV Beratung Schussweg 8, A-4210 Unterweitersdorf +43-664-2114805, alpezi@zilli.priv.at ************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:00:17 +0200 From: Tisch 4 Subject: (kw) Live at The ZKM !!! Hello all, I am writing this from the ZKM cybercafe in Karlsruhe. Next message to follow after this test, Adam Read # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:11:17 +0200 From: Tisch 4 Subject: (kw) KRAFTWERK LIVE - Linz Austria All, I saw Kraftwerk in Linz at the Posthof on Thursday. Wow ! Four new songs! The set list from memory was. Numbers Computerwelt Home Computer Man Machine Tour De France Airwaves with New Song One Radioactivity New Song Two Autobahn New Song Three Pocket Calculator Robots / Robotronik New Song Four (Luton Hoo) Musik Non Stop. There are no vocals on any of the new songs, They are all fast and danceable. There is one song with wild and fast vocodered sequencers. Very Kraftwrk sound. Another starts with Airwaves then changes to a new peice. We met Florian Schneider before the show and I asked him the title of the 1st New Song. He laughed and said "I'm not going to tell you!" ad ran out the door. >From were I am sitting, I can now see Ralf Hutter talking on his phone!!!! I also had a good look at the Kling Klang stage and will send photos when I return. More later. Adam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 18:24:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Robert Krenn Subject: (kw) Life is good! Ahhh... standing here at a computer at ZKM in KArlsruhe, just hours until Kraftwerk will play.. .have just seen Florian outside.... Met some interesting Kraftwerj Fans.... Hope to meet some I know... only met Anders and friends.... Well.. only 3 hours untill KW!!!!! See yaaa ;D //Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 13:14:04 -0400 From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) Life is good! >standing here at a computer at ZKM in KArlsruhe, just hours until >Kraftwerk will play.. .have just seen Florian outside.... Hey Robert, when Florian passes by again, tell him that Scott B. in New York says hi. hehehe ;) Have fun at the show today you guys and gals!! - -- Scott nebulous@erols.com "Wir fahr'n fahr'n fahr'n auf der Autobahn..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 10:31:41 -0700 From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) KW in Miami, Fla Mar '98???? I found this entry in Jules Seifert's GuestBook. -(copy/paste)- kraftwerk will play the tribal gathering u.s.a. / march `98 / miami florida . florian ownes an original trautonium of oskar sala . the new track called " tech-talk " . the new single will be out before x-mas `97 . further info after the concert in karlsruhe . greetinx from metropolis . basztecq basztecq metropolis, - Wednesday, October 15, 1997 at 00:00:29 (GMT) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 21:45:39 +0500 From: Christopher Gross Subject: (kw) Interesting... Well, I just did something I never did before-- I bought a second copy of TIME PIE because so many people wanted to borrow it that I never got a chance to listen to it any more! I hope that's a good sign. BTW, has anyone on the list seen 'The End of Violence'? I know KW isn't on the soundtrack album, but I haven't had a chance to see the movie (if it's still playing) and was wondering if they're on the soundtrack itself. I think they could have made a great soundtrack for 'Until the End of the World'... My e-mail program crashed a few minutes ago while trying to download some stuff, so I probably missed a lot of news about the concert-- but I hope everyone had a great time! - -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 02:37:20 GMT From: c.erz@ndh.net (Christian Erz) Subject: (kw) Karlsruhe: KRAFTWERK live in concert !!! my short story Hey fans, :-) just coming from Karlsruhe an have to say to you my impressions :) It was a very very wonderful (!) performance-act. A liveshow of it=B4s own class. Kraftwerk live. I was never on any concert from Kraftwerk before Karlsruhe, but this was the best sound of them I have ever heared of! But, back to my impressions :-) Its starting was planed for 21:00 (GMT+1) but the hell knows why ;-) we have to wait till 22:30 (GMT+!) But after we have made a lot of sound they started with smooth ambient getting harder synths and sorry, but after the have counted "Numbers" I was in other dimensions ....Ralf and Florian standing with two other members of the group (sorry, but I don=B4t know there :-( names) behind 4 Synthesizer.=20 Behind this four was the Studio operating together with them and behind the studio you could see four big videowalls with videos and computer animations were shown of. an a fantastic great lightshow! =20 The Playlist: (not in any order) I remember #-) - - Nummern - - Computerwelt - - Radioaktivit=E4t - - Tour de France - - Mensch Maschine - - Trans Europa Express (long version) - - Autobahn - - Taschenrechner (looong) - - Heimcomputer (???) - - It=B4s more fun to compute=20 - - Airwaves (new long version) - - Boing Boom Tschak - - Die Roboter (The mix)=20 - - Musique Non Stop - - and when my counting was right #-) -> 4 new songs IMAO theire newest songs ??? Fast played technozised Kraftwerk .... lecker! Please correct whats wrong , I was still concentrated of their audiovideo activitys #-) ... robotized by KRAAAAFT-WERRRRK!) The hole concert lenght was about ca. 2 hours :-)) Yippiieee! But for know I=B4m to tooo sleeeeepy to tell you more about..........schnarch |-) .... it=B4s 4:27 (GMT+1) in the morning=20 and I have to go to bed.=20 Good nite to you, good night to Kraftwerk, and see you next issue. BTW: Before the concert you could listen to deejay "Inxa (?) Moskwa" ... After the concert you could listen to deejey "Laurent Garnier" ... - --------------------------------------------------------------------- listen : Es wird immer weiter gehn, Musik als Traeger von Ideen!=20 - --------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------ ... es wir immer weitergeh=B4n, Musik als Tr=E4ger von Ideen... - ------------------------------------------------------------ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 04:05:44 -0400 From: Ian Calder Subject: (kw) Small Kraftwerk feature in todays 'Sunday Times' Accompanying today's edition of 'The Sunday Times' is a = '1000 Makers of Music' supplement (Part 4) - this includes = a short biogrpahy on Kraftwerk plus a large colour photo on = the same page ('Man Machine' era). Ian Calder # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 14:12:06 -0700 From: **************** Subject: Re: (kw) Small Kraftwerk feature in todays 'Sunday Times' Ian Calder wrote: > > Accompanying today's edition of 'The Sunday Times' is a > '1000 Makers of Music' supplement (Part 4) - this includes > a short biogrpahy on Kraftwerk plus a large colour photo on > the same page ('Man Machine' era). > For everyones benefit here is the piece (excuse any typos) Kraftwerk influenced the course of popular music almost as much as the Beatles. RH and FS met while studying improvisation at the Dusseldorf Conservatory. Spurred by meeting WF, and Klaus Roeder, a multi-instrumentalist, they used primitive drum machines and home made synthesisers to fashion a breakthrough album in 1974 with Autobahn it title track becoming a transatlantic top 10 hit. Autobahn explored the faith and fear inspired by rapid technological advance at a time when mechanisation was throwing Europeans out of work. This became the groups dominant theme through subsequent albums such as Radioactivity, Trans-Europe Express, The Man Machine and Computer World. Kraftwerk's genius was that this conceptual dichotomy was reflected in their electronically generated sound, in the way robotic beats and disembodied voices were set against some of the clearest and most naively beautiful melodies. Enormously influential for many established artists, such as David Bowie, Kraftwerk would prove decisive inspiration for British synth-pop, hip-hop and modern dance music, both European and American. Keywork - Tran-Europe Express mode.123 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 15:15:45 +0200 From: Twingo on the Internet Subject: (kw) Karlsruhe Concert W're back! A good concert, but if you look at the atmosphere it gets 6 out of 10 compared to the 10 out of 10 which the Luton concert gets from me. I even managed to see the stage and equipment at broad daylight (when the hall was open at approx. 15:30). greetings, Twingo / / Twingo, the Netherlands - ----/---/---- http://www.xs4all.nl/~twingo / / http://www.xs4all.ml/~twingo/kraftwerk/kraftwerk.html / / twingo@xs4all.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 15:19:42 +0200 From: "Rafa" Subject: (kw) Abduced by the movil KlingKlang? Hello, I dont=B4t know what=B4s the matter? Last night I didn=B4t recive any mai= l about Karlsruhe and this morning either. My mail server crashes or you all have been abdu= ced by the movil KlingKlang?. Please, I need information. New songs or same that Linz? Lyrics or not Lyrics? Talk anybody with the "boys"? Details about concert,,,, please, please, please.... Thank you very much!!! Rafa # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:37:13 +0200 From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) Linz Gig in the news II Articles also in "Salzburger Nachrichten" and "Oberoesterreichische Nachrichten" in the Saturday edition. I collected everything! cu, Georgie - -- ***********************Black*Box Online Community*********************** * palazzo - die virtuelle Bastelwelt | http://www.blackbox.at/palazzo/ * ************************************************************************ Black*Box FirstClass BBS: +43-1-4073132 (Modem) | http://www.blackbox.at # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk Digest V3 #160 ******************************* To subscribe to kraftwerk Digest, send the command: subscribe kraftwerk-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". 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