From: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com (kraftwerk Digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk Digest V3 #162 Reply-To: kraftwerk@xmission.com Sender: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com Precedence: kraftwerk Digest Tuesday, October 21 1997 Volume 03 : Number 162 In this issue: AW: (kw) ZKM small details (kw) In case you were mistaken.... (kw) Title of new KW album Re:(kw) ZKM small details Re: (kw) Content-Type: text/plain Re: (kw) Content-Type: text/plain (kw) Linz & Karlsruhe questions Re: (kw) Content-Type: text/plain Re: (kw) Title of new KW album (kw) Kraftwerk: ZKM 2CD available ! RE: (kw) Title of new KW album Re: (kw) Title of new KW album (kw) My impressions of the Karlsruhe Concert (kw) zdf.msnbc article on KRAFTWERK (kw) Florian Schneider on mailing list? (kw) Again: New album... (kw) The new songs... Re: (kw) Again: New album... Re: (kw) Florian Schneider on mailing list? (kw) Mailing to "kraftwerk.com"? Re: (kw) Mailing to "kraftwerk.com"? (kw) Radio Broadcast Re: (kw) Content-Type: text/plain (kw) Who dat man? Re: (kw) Content-Type blah blah RE: (kw) ZKM small details (kw) (no subject) (kw) Real KW e-addresses? SV: (kw) Article on ZKM & Concert in todays "DIE WELT" SV: (kw) Content-Type: text/plain Re: (kw) ZKM small details See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the kraftwerk or kraftwerk-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:11:33 +0200 From: Oliver Subject: AW: (kw) ZKM small details just returned from karlsruhe, The sound quality was fantastic and i hope that some nice bootlegs will be released soon. I think the sound was far away from beeing great. They had big trouble with the mix. The electronic voices that were so powerful in luton sounded very thin and the articulation was not that good (also due to acoustic problems) And all the trouble with the microphone. Everytime they turned up the channel, the music was heard through the mike too. There were even feedback problems. A good sound engineer should be aware of that.. I remember three new songs (including the lutton one) - all with no They played the robots two times. the first time with an empty stage and just some video sequences. after that the video panels moved up and four robots appeared. [Oliver] [Oliver] Next problem: I think, just like in Linz; they had problems with the video walls. the robots were already dancing, but the video screens did not move down. OS you could just see them dancing forr a minute or two before the song was over. I had quite a good view to ralf (four rows in front of him). He was looking very serious all the time and sometimes i had the impression he looked a little bit sad. [Oliver] i had the impression, as if this would be their last concert. They looked tired in a way. And I for myself was tired and a bit bored to listen to the same songs again. If they play TEE Live once again, I will leave the concert. During some moments of the concert, I had the idea, that at the end of the concert, they would announce that Kraftwerk is not performing or composing anymore. Cmon three new songs, all of a average quality, in almost a decade. Thats not very much. Ok, they are reworking their old stuff again and again. musique nonstop was the best live version they ever did, Manmachine was great. But that is not enough to keep up the legend for ever. When they played pocket calculator he sometimes pressed a button (to play a little melody...) on his small portable device (like in former concerts). BUT this was never synchronous with the music. always a little bit to late or too early. [Oliver] If you trigger tracks on a midi arrrangement, as I expect them to do, during pocket calculator, you have to do it a bit asynchronus, because you have to tell the program before the loop ends, what track it has to play next. So its always a bit out of sync. I also remembered that ralf had a file (leitz ordner oder sowas) in front of him and he turned the page one or two times during a song. [Oliver] Yeah, maybe he was reading a new book, or was it Alzheimer and it contained a script, when to press what button. I dont know... [Oliver] nix fuer ungut! take care Oliver # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:28:54 +0000 From: "Craig Land" Subject: (kw) In case you were mistaken.... .............the idea of an opinion poll regarding the Technopop existance was just a way a finding what the list members felt on this issue. Putting this issue to bed once and for all and finding out if it does exist is not the purpose of the opinion poll. Haven't some of you heard of the phrase, 'Harmless fun'? Some of the entries to this list are utter garbage in my opinion, but I do not post public messages back to the list identifying the person or my opinions on each individual topic, I just delete these unwanted and un-interesting messages from my mail folder. If you didn't want to participate, then don't worry, it isn't going to prove anything other than what the list members opinion is! That is what opinion poll means! Some vaild comments have been made, we know that an index number was given for Technopop, but no official recordings exist. I agree with this statement, but only on the basis that 'official' is the key word we are referring to. We also hazard a guess that if a promo version did exist, then why haven't we seen bootlegs? I would challenge this, as for the past twenty years I have collected rare records, and I have lost count of how many times material has been suddenly released which has either been lost or locked away in some vault by a particular artist. Plus, knowing the shroud which hangs over the whole KW image, it does not seem to unbeleivable for Ralph and Florian to take measures to stop Technopop recordings in any shape or form to reach the streets, look at how they can stop other things..........! And finally, a contact of mine who ran a collectors shop in Norwich, England has seen 12 inch vinyl copies of Technopop exchanging hands within the industry for large sums of money. He remembered in 1986 seing only one copy of this record and is a firm beleiver that something exists, whether it be an acetate or promo copy. To quantify my statements on some issues above, a friend of mine was given by his mother a present. It is a one sided acetate of an interview with Elvis Presley with one track at the end. When we took it to be valued at my friends shop in Norwich, he came up with the following response, "I have had it valued by some Elvis experts in London and their reply is that you should not be walking around the streets with this in your hands. All known copies of this acetate were thought to be destroyed, it was never released and it's contents have never been issued in any other format. We authenticated the voice as Elvis and our recommendation is that you lock this away in a bank vault if you are not willing to place it in auction". To this day it is in a bank vault. I think my friend could be sitting on a small fortune here. So what were some of you saying about it being hard to believe copies of material not existing which the artist has supposedly banned! Best Regards, Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:02:10 +0000 From: Christoph Soltmannowski Subject: (kw) Title of new KW album What do you think about the following theory: The title of the new KW album will be =ABwww.kraftwerk.com=BB. On the Karlsruhe concert, there were posters for sale (I bought 2 of them) with just Kraftwerk in their neon suits and =ABwww.kraftwerk.com=BB= on it. There were also grey T-Shirts with =ABwww.kraftwerk.com=BB on them. A= nd www.kraftwerk.com was appearring fpr about 3 seconds after their Luton-Hoo-song on the 4 screens behind them. That much advertising for a website??? (which is, by the way, still very simple and poor on content at the moment). This must be the first merchandising items for their new album. I guess they have at least one song about the internet on their new album, and communication (and/or the Internet itself) will be at least one subject among these new songs. What do you think? Am I right? We could start a contest who gets the closest to what the title/theme of the new album will be. Christoph Soltmannowski "We are showroom dummies" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:44:17 +0200 From: Oliver Subject: Re:(kw) ZKM small details Sorry, I am sending this mail again, my email prg screwed up (how I love Outlook...) and my former reply did not make much sense. I hope this one works! > just returned from karlsruhe, > The sound quality was fantastic and i hope that some nice bootlegs will be released soon. I think the sound was far away from beeing great. They had big trouble with the mix. The electronic voices that were so powerful in luton sounded very thin and the articulation was not that good (also due to acoustic problems) And all the trouble with the microphone. Everytime they turned up the channel, the music was heard through the mike too. There were even feedback problems. A good sound engineer should be aware of that.. >I remember three new songs (including the lutton one) - all with no >They played the robots two times. the first time with an empty stage and >just some video sequences. >after that the video panels moved up and four robots appeared. Next problem: I think, just like in Linz; they had problems with the video walls. the robots were already dancing, but the video screens did not move down. OS you could just see them dancing forr a minute or two before the song was over. >I had quite a good view to ralf (four rows in front of him). >He was looking very serious all the time and sometimes i had the >impression he looked a little bit sad. I had the impression, as if this would be their last concert. They looked tired in a way. And I for myself was tired and a bit bored to listen to the same songs again. If they play TEE Live once again, I will leave the concert. During some moments of the concert, I had the idea, that at the end of the concert, they would announce that Kraftwerk is not performing or composing anymore. Cmon three new songs, all of a average quality, in almost a decade. Thats not very much. Ok, they are reworking their old stuff again and again. musique nonstop was the best live version they ever did, Manmachine was great. But that is not enough to keep up the legend for ever. >When they played pocket calculator he sometimes pressed a button (to >play a little melody...) on his small portable device (like in former >concerts). BUT this was never synchronous with the music. always a >little bit to late or too early. If you trigger tracks on a midi arrrangement, as I expect them to do, during pocket calculator, you have to do it a bit asynchronus, because you have to tell the program before the loop ends, what track it has to play next. So its always a bit out of sync. >I also remembered that ralf had a file (leitz ordner oder sowas) in >front of him and he turned the >page one or two times during a song. Yeah, maybe he was reading a new book, or was it Alzheimer and it contained a script, when to press what button. I dont know... nix fuer ungut! take care Oliver # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:04:39 -0700 From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Content-Type: text/plain > From: Florian Schneider > To: kraftwerk@xmission.com > Subject: (kw) Content-Type: text/plain > Date: Monday, October 20, 1997 4:47 AM > > KLING KLANG - -!!!!- Can ANYone actually believe this is REALLY Florian Schneider- or just a cruel joke from a "fan" to give us all a massive heart attack?? Well, I DID find Karl Bartos listed on four11 under his real name with the handle "Geigerzahler"- 'very likely user name indeed! -(I think it was a Hotmail addy as well.)- I sent a brief polite note, which was politely ignored, ofcourse. -(I hear Wolfgang Flur is a lot friendlier.)- Okay, I'll byte.... Lieber Herr Schneider! Wilkommen! If it really IS you, I'll EAT my Computer AND my Stereo- as soon as I get the *NEW* album. *CHOMP-CRUNCH* Pass the salt & pepper, please.... BITTE- come tour the USA! We're STARVING for your VIBES over here. ps: We have some lovely Bike Trails here in the Northern California Redwoods. -(EUREKA!)- Come on over- you and Herr Hutter would LOVE it here! 'Nice vacation spot. Sincerely, ROBOT ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:47:48 +0000 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Content-Type: text/plain Sch=E4der Eric wrote: > = > WELCOME TO THE LIST, FLORIAN. YOU JUST CAN'T BELIEVE HOW HAPPY WE ARE > THAT YOU HAVE JOINED OUR LIST. WE HOPE YOU WILL ENJOY IT. I for one think it's really Florian posting to the list in a way that some doubts still remain. Very KW in style. jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:55:10 +0100 From: Måns Sjöstrand Subject: (kw) Linz & Karlsruhe questions Hi all! This questions could maybe someone who was on the Linz or the Karlsruhe gigs answer. Q no 1. - During the concert was the Kling-klang studio in it`s classic V-shaped format or in the newer straight line format. Q no 2. - And during the Luton Hoo song did they were this "space" suits? Regards M=E5ns # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:23:06 +0000 From: "Jose Gonzalez" Subject: Re: (kw) Content-Type: text/plain > > > From: Florian Schneider > > To: kraftwerk@xmission.com > > Subject: (kw) Content-Type: text/plain > > Date: Monday, October 20, 1997 4:47 AM > > > > KLING KLANG > > this starts to look like a Ouija: "mmmh!...i can feel his presence...if you are Florian send us a sign ! ,just knock the table two times..." It's impossible that it can be Florian, at 4:47 AM they surely were hibernating until the next concert (within 5 or 6 years) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:29:35 -0400 (EDT) From: DepecheCBI@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Title of new KW album In einer eMail vom 20.10.97 17:53:19 MEZ, schreibt soltoc@dial.eunet.ch: << What do you think about the following theory: The title of the new KW album will be <> >> Hmmm....my brother and me thought the same! And could the picture of the poster be the cover (or in the sleeve) of the new album ? I also think that the title of the song which was opened by the words and melody of "airwaves" could be "oscillation". Those oscillations (cool) on the screens were visible during the w h o l e song. And - the text was/is "wenn Wellen SCHWINGEN (=oscillate), ferne Stimmen singen". And you find oscillations in data-transmissions as well as in the airplay and music/voice. Carsten Bolte. Kiel. halb wesen - halb ding. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 23:37:32 +0200 From: Olf Ranthiz Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk: ZKM 2CD available ! I managed to get some extra copies of the CD "ZKM" which features the Karlsruhe Concert and will be available within this week. price is $40, the sound quality is amazing though it is an audience recording. - -- take care tf ************************************************************* "Drinking and smoking are bad for the health" -Charles Bukowski # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:50:31 -0700 From: **************** Subject: RE: (kw) Title of new KW album >What do you think about the following theory: >The title of the new KW album will be =ABwww.kraftwerk.com=BB. How about, "Smell The Transistors", after all if these guys don't = deliver soon they will be in the "where are they now category" along = with Spinal Tap. mode.123 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 22:47:36 +0200 From: jss@onestone.de Subject: Re: (kw) Title of new KW album If their interest in the internet would be that big, that must already have found 'their' mailing list. regards, Joerg-Stefan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 23:16:51 +0100 From: "Erik Barth" Subject: (kw) My impressions of the Karlsruhe Concert Hi list, 18 october, saturdaymorning I woke up early, got the bus and the train to get in time at the meetingpoint with some friends. I took the Linz concert report and a lot of Kraftwerk CD's (The German versions of course) with me, together with a portable CD player and a car adapter. So during our 7 1/2 hour trip I had enough opportunities to play the music I expected to be played at the gig for my fellow travellers more than they like. After two and a half hours drive and an hour trafic jam we reached the German border. From a flat country onto the Autobahn at once. And indeed "the track is a grey band, white stripes, green border. Before us lies a wide valley, the sun shines with sparkling ray". Only no radio. I have had enough of Schlagers and James Last in my life. After some stops and a meal (they had 50 cm (1 1/2 foot) long sausages, can you believe it?) and without any trouble, we reached Karlsruhe, went straight to the Luisenstrasse for hotel Barbarossa and checked in. (Thank you very much, Harald Westphal for the directions to all information about Karlsruhe.) After changing clothes, we went downstairs to "Me Kong" a rather good Thai and Chinese restaurant. Only no guests! Don't you Germans know what good food is? On a saturday night we were the only guests! Unbelievable. Well, as the time passed by, I got more excited (less than an hour to go, what if they didn't show up?). We went straight through the parc which had an awfull zoo smell. After some twenty minutes walkin towards the east, we found a lot of people in the street, walking and finding their way. It was half past aight, so I was much too late for the blue cube. Sorry listees. We got a small map and after following the signs to Kraftwerk we run into a crowd. all having Kraftwerk tickets in their hands. Just next to me was a guy with a badge, containing LED's programmed to act like a christmas tree. There were also some trucks from TV-stations. Around 9 some music started and I got very worried (but these nice and patient Germans around me were just waiting very patiently). At a quarter to ten, we had moved so far that I could see the program through the curtains which showed: 21:00 Xenia Moskwa 22:00 Kraftwerk 24:00 Laurent Garnier So I felt relieved that the weird music was not from Kraftwerk but from some guest. The time passed by faster than the row. About ten after ten I made it inside and although I was carrying a camera, I was not searched. But I must admit, it was very angry with the organisation that we had to wait so long. Inside there was a huge space. In the middle, opposite the entrances, there curtains and on both sides there were large video screens. The centre square was very crowded and the music was shit. There was also a balcony kind of thing. The whole space was only concrete, except for the glass roof and windows. It had very bad acoustics. In case you stood near me: I was carrying an almost white coat around my waist and a reebok sweatshirt. fter some time, when everybody was inside, some bleeps started... - - Bleeping intro (random, but with the same random generator and seed as in 1981 and in 1991) - - Meine Damen und Herrn, heute abend, (pause instead of "aus Deutschland") die Mensch Maschine, Kraftwerk - - Nummern - - Heimcomputer/It's more fun to compute - - Mensch Maschine - - Tour de France - - Autobahn - - Aetherwellen (unsmoothed) - - Sellafield intro+ Radioaktivitaet - - New title, no video, no lyrics (only understood some "vocoder" stuff saying "paperclip"???), clearly not finished - - Trans Europa Express, Metall auf metall, Abzug - - Taschenrechner - - Roboter/Robotronik (no men, only machine) - - New Song (as known from the Kraftwerk homepage and Luton Hoo), Kraftwerk goes spidermen - - Music non stop (one by one Kraftwerk left the scene) and after some minutes the music stopped... Although I didn't use any flash (ISO 1600) and with a lot of other people taking pictures, some organising committee member threatened me to take my camera if I didn't stop taking pictures. So after "Tour de France", I had an escorte which should have given other people the opportunity to photograph and/or record the event. And instead of having many pictures, I had the chance to enjoy the show. In comparison with the '91 tour, there were only 4 new performed songs and the Sellafield Intro. - - Die Mensch Maschine was very well done, only a pity it replaced the Model. - - The Aetherwellen song (Airwaves) was very good done, a bit techno and very raw (unsmoothed). - - The paperclip song (second new title) was the worst one. no head, no tail, no body, no video, no inspiration and no dancing. Kraftwerk, please redo your homework. - - The Kraftwerk goes spiderman act (Last new title, Luton Hoo song) was also reasonable. The fun was that at all new songs, the crowd was very quiet. It seems that everybody was absorbing as much as possible of the new stuff and trying not to miss a second. About the show. I was glad a was there, it was good to there in Germany, hearing the German versions, in a hall which made the music sound like industrial music, surrounded by Germans. That's pure Kraftwerk. The bad thing was that there were only 3 new songs in 11 years! Please stop to be more than perfectionists and publish a new album even if you're only 80% satisfied. Well, after Kraftwerk was finished, we returned to the hotel. Kraftwerk was still playing in my head. The following mornig, there were a lot of young people at breakfast. There were the three of us, three younger guys who might have been at Kraftwerk, three guys and a lady who hadn't been to Kraftwerk, three guys of which one was wearing a yellow radioactivity shirt (definitely having been to Kraftwerk, a guy with a long tail, probably having been at Kraftwerk and a couple (I thought they stood before me during the concert). So leaving the scene behind us, we started in the fog to drive home. After some time,the sun broke through and there was a beautiful sunday, driving home on the autobahn and nursing a great experience. And today, 20 october, the cruel reality of working. Thanks Kraftwerk for this nice weekend. Regards, Erik Barth dbarth@xs4all.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 00:58:08 +0200 From: Andreas Schepers Subject: (kw) zdf.msnbc article on KRAFTWERK http://www.zdf.msnbc.de/news/4042.asp features an article about the karlsruhe gig. (in german only) regards, andreas - ---- Andreas Schepers NetMedia GmbH Information Design Schubertstraße 8 schepers@net-media.de 66111 Saarbruecken http://www.net-media.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 02:19:44 +0200 From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) Florian Schneider on mailing list? I think we all know that this "Florian Schneider" on the mailing list is a fake. What I think is that Florian - also as Ralf, Fritz and Henning - ist reading this list! Not under their real name...under a psydonyme, maybe or at the account of a friend. They just read, but they don't mail. They are watching us! And they will be very interested in all those guys who are offering bootlegs, recordings and photos from the gig's ;-)! The collect all the data and send it to Interpol, Deutsche Bank, FBI, Scotland Yard, CIA and KGB! So be aware! Georgie - --=20 In Wien sitzen wir im Nachtcaf=E9 - Direktverbindung TEE... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 02:35:32 +0200 From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) Again: New album... How long will we still have to wait? Does anybody know, has anybody heard some news? It could be right that the album title will be "www.kraftwerk.com" so it would be a album about the internet. This would fit to the Luton song, which is part of the Wim Wenders film "The end of the violence" - a computer thriller, I heard. Georgie - --=20 In Wien sitzen wir im Nachtcaf=E9 - Direktverbindung TEE... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 02:40:07 +0200 From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) The new songs... Can anybody say exactly how many new songs Kraftwerk performed at their Gig's? I would say two: the one before "Trans Europa Express" and the song from Luton after "The robots". But what's with the "Airwaves" song? Has it got new parts, a new intro...or is it the third new song...and what do all these facts mean for the new album? Georgie - --=20 In Wien sitzen wir im Nachtcaf=E9 - Direktverbindung TEE... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 01:54:52 +0200 From: RoBoten Subject: Re: (kw) Again: New album... At 02:35 1997-10-21 +0200, Georg Jajus wrote: > >How long will we still have to wait? Does anybody know, has anybody >heard some news? It could be right that the album title will be >"www.kraftwerk.com" so it would be a album about the internet. This >would fit to the Luton song, which is part of the Wim Wenders film "The >end of the violence" - a computer thriller, I heard. I would cry if that would be it. Internet was born 20 years ago, and Kraftwerk have already talked about numbers and people, cia and kgb... They were there - -81 already. Namedropping: Electronic Supermarket, Electronic Life, Electronic Intelligence, Intelligence..., Technoise, Technique non stop Please save me from "Real Audioactivity" ,"Infobahn" ,"Javaland", "NetComputer" or any stuff like that.. =P //RoBoten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 01:59:05 +0200 From: RoBoten Subject: Re: (kw) Florian Schneider on mailing list? At 02:19 1997-10-21 +0200, Georg Jajus wrote: >They are watching us! And they will be very interested >in all those guys who are offering bootlegs, recordings and photos from >the gig's ;-)! The collect all the data and send it to Interpol, >Deutsche Bank, FBI, Scotland Yard, CIA and KGB! No.. They don't need the internet. They have their own ultra-intelligent machine that already knows everything about everything. They just need to connect their brains to it to keep updated. //RoBoten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 03:17:02 +0200 From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) Mailing to "kraftwerk.com"? I don't know if or when it has been discussed before (sorry!), but has anybody tried to mail to the www.kraftwerk.com page? There would be a lot of possibilities for an E-mail adress, like "ralf.huetter@kraftwerk.com", "florian@kraftwerk.com" or "klingklang@kraftwerk.com". Any idea? Georgie - --=20 In Wien sitzen wir im Nachtcaf=E9 - Direktverbindung TEE... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 97 02:40:03 +0200 From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Mailing to "kraftwerk.com"? On Tue, 21 Oct 1997 03:17:02 +0200, Georg Jajus wrote: > >I don't know if or when it has been discussed before (sorry!), but has >anybody tried to mail to the www.kraftwerk.com page? There would be a >lot of possibilities for an E-mail adress, like >"ralf.huetter@kraftwerk.com", "florian@kraftwerk.com" or >"klingklang@kraftwerk.com". Any idea? > Yes, I have tried severall times. The strange thing is that my messages did not get bounced! - ------------------------------------------------------------ Arnaud de Bonald Paris, France, Europe=09 Home Page / Page personnelle: http://home.worldnet.fr/bonald =09 My own Music Page / Mes cr=E9ations musicales: http://www.chez.com/adb - ------------------------------------------------------------ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 22:40:14 +0100 From: "Julie Swanson" Subject: (kw) Radio Broadcast Hi, Does anyone know if the latest Kraftwerk gigs will be available in Real audio. I sure hope so. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:56:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) Content-Type: text/plain On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Rafa wrote: > >> On 20-Okt-97 A.D., Florian Schneider carved the following runes about > >> "(kw) Content-Type: text/plain": > >> > >> >KLING KLANG >=20 > Do u really think that is our real Florian Schneider? > I think that is only a joke of someone. > I=B4m sure that THEY read this mail list but they > never join to the list using a hotmail freemail. Either way, it's a nice touch. A little something to get us stirred up. :) /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously=20 * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:28:42 PDT From: "Christopher Gross" Subject: (kw) Who dat man? Whoever sent that 'Florian Schneider' letter did me a favor without realizing it. I haven't been able to e-mail from work for several weeks now, so I signed up with Hotmail just now and it works fine! My other e-mail addresses (cgross@erols.com and cgross@harris-pub.com) are still valid as well. BTW, Hotmail is not an anonymous service; the identities of its users can be verified (unless they flat-out lie when signing up, in which case they can be kicked out). Maybe it's him after all... In any case-- thanks a lot, "Florian"! Chris Gross ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:12:49 PDT From: "Christopher Gross" Subject: Re: (kw) Content-Type blah blah jbv wrote: I for one think it's really Florian posting to the list in a way that some doubts still remain. Very KW in style. ___________ CG sez: It could be done. He's not listed in the members' directory, but that's optional (I'm not on there either, but I just signed up)... What he could have done is to register, send one message, and cancel his registration (assuming he doesn't still have an account). Hotmail would have a record of where "Florian" logged on from, but only they would know... - ---- Chris Gross (cgross@erols.com, cgross@harris-pub.com, golem14@hotmail.com) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:25:36 -0700 From: **************** Subject: RE: (kw) ZKM small details >I had the impression, as if this would be their last concert. They = looked=20 >tired in a way. And I for myself was tired and a bit bored to listen to = the=20 They've only played a few concerts this year, why on earth should they = be so tired! After all a 10 year sabbatical is more than enough for most = of us!! >same songs again. If they play TEE Live once again, I will leave the=20 >concert. TEE is perhaps their definitive song, they should NEVER stop playing = it.=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 00:46:18 -0400 From: tadream Subject: (kw) (no subject) man! this entire 'Florian Schneider message' thing is just like 'The Philadelphia Experiment' of our own. I wouldn't be surprised if one day the guy who came up with this message turns out to be Carl Allen himself. on another topic.... Few days ago I came across a message about Kraftwerk's appearance at tribal gathering in Miami (march 98)...I think it was sent by Klaus Zaepke...any further details on that Klaus? Is it reliable and confirmed? Please give us more info. Thnx. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 01:39:39 -0400 From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Real KW e-addresses? Maybe someone should key in "kraftwerk.com" at the www.four11.com site, a place to look up e-addresses? Who knows who we can reach! Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:17:42 +0200 From: "Charlie Crash" <303@iname.com> Subject: SV: (kw) Article on ZKM & Concert in todays "DIE WELT" >PSPS: The "strap-it-around-the-balls" approach worked perfectly again! You >know what I am talking about :-) Hmmm...I must have some braincells still working to pop such a great idea ;-) ///CC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. - ---------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:25:33 +0200 From: "Charlie Crash" <303@iname.com> Subject: SV: (kw) Content-Type: text/plain >=20 > KLING KLANG >=20 If Florian really sent that note, he must be sitting in D=FCsseldorf and laughing his ass off watching all the fuzz he created just by printing a couple off letters...Just like pooring sugar over a pile of ants... ///CC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 23:49:07 -0700 From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) ZKM small details - -(latest debate)- >> If they play TEE Live once again, I will leave the concert. - -(rebuttle)- > TEE is perhaps their definitive song, they should NEVER stop playing it. I don't care WHICH songs they play, as long as they never stop with "Die ROBOTER". THAT is their definitive song. "We are the ROBOTS". It doesn't get any more "definitive" than that. I 'd be eternally grateful to hear them *LIVE* just once. So, quit griping. You're damned lucky to see 'em perform at all. -(ENVY-ENVY-ENVY)- Hey, Florian- if that really IS you- are you SURE you want to know what goes on on this Mail List?*snicker*! I mean, with all due respect, we LOVE your MusiK and all -it's a very deep and unexplainable *connection*- but, you gotta quit jerking us around, okay? Some of us have weak hearts. Go easy, eh? -(I'm still gonna eat my Stereo when I get the new album.)- So, what's this rumor about KW playing TG at Miami in March '98? None of this is real. I'm stuck in a HoloDeck program.... 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