From: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com (kraftwerk Digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk Digest V3 #168 Reply-To: kraftwerk@xmission.com Sender: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com Precedence: kraftwerk Digest Tuesday, October 28 1997 Volume 03 : Number 168 In this issue: (kw) ZKM CD's Re: (kw) ZKM CD's Re: (kw) New album - new info. Re: (kw) new input (slightly off topic..) Re: (kw) Conventional methods (kw) APHEX TWIN was: new input (slightly off topic..) Re: (kw) oscar wilde on a week-old topic Re: (kw) Conventional methods AW: (kw) Conventional methods Re: (kw) Conventional methods Re: (kw) Conventional methods Re: (kw) mobile homes (fwd) Re: (kw) Conventional methods (fwd) (kw) Sebastian Niessen Re: (kw) Tomorrows World (kw) TECHNOPOP FOR SALE (kw) MIAMI or BUST! KRAFTWERK Konvoy? Re: (kw) TECHNOPOP FOR SALE Re: (kw) Tomorrows World Re: (kw) TECHNOPOP FOR SALE Re: (kw) TECHNOPOP FOR SALE Re: (kw) TECHNOPOP FOR SALE (kw) TECHNOPOP FOR SALE (kw) TECHNOPOP FOR SALE Re: (kw) Tomorrows World (kw) KW Konvoy Re: (kw) TECHNOPOP FOR SALE Re: (kw) TECHNOPOP FOR SALE (kw) TECHNOPOP FOR SALE Re: (kw) This & That ON topic! Re: (kw) D"usseldorf's CityBeats Re: (kw) D"usseldorf's CityBeats Fw: (kw) KW Konvoy Re: (kw) Conventional methods Re: (kw) Sebastian Niessen (kw) The KW-concept See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the kraftwerk or kraftwerk-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:28:49 +0100 From: Olf Ranthiz Subject: (kw) ZKM CD's There has been some confusions about my ZKM CD offer. The CD#s are pressed and availble. I also have some copies from "Lebendige Menschen" left" e-mail me privately if you're interested in one of the above mentioned CD's. - -- take care tf ************************************************************* "Drinking and smoking are bad for the health" -Charles Bukowski # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:38:12 +0100 (MET) From: Thomas Weckert Subject: Re: (kw) ZKM CD's hi, please tell me the content, price and sound quality of your zkm cd, please. thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:01:12 GMT From: jseifert@cableinet.co.uk (Jules Seifert) Subject: Re: (kw) New album - new info. Led Belly wrote: >The exact release date of the album can not yet be confirmed. However,=20 >it is likely to be Feb/March 1997, with a tour to follow (this may=20 >include acting as a backing band to Heaven 17).=20 > heaven 17? hehehe > >The album will be=20 >exclusively new material, not any remixes of old tracks. A cover of=20 >Numans 'Cars' may be included and pegged for release as a single. The=20 >running time of the album is likely to pitch in at 27 minutes, shorter=20 >than Computer World. The reason may be that the band does not want to=20 >unnecessarily cause noise pollution (FS has referred to this problem in=20 >the past). > do us a favour!! > >The album may not be released in the USA, which is now considered an=20 >unworkable market. Sorry guys, looks like imports for you.=20 > >The album may go the way of TechnoPop due to uncertainties about current= =20 >directions. > >I will release further info. Once it is available. > hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Now i remember you! Got any more madonna samples? ciao, - -------------------------------------------- Jules Seifert 'The Voice of Energy' #Kraftwerk IRC Homepage:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:01:08 GMT From: jseifert@cableinet.co.uk (Jules Seifert) Subject: Re: (kw) new input (slightly off topic..) Oliver wrote: >Aphex Twin: >"Come to Daddy" from Warp RTD 126.3383.2 >Better than ever (again, my opinion) future music to listen too. >I wish THEY would take some influences from those guys... couldn't be = that bad.... > regards > Hey Oliver, glad to know there's a few more of us who recognise the genius of RDJ. 'Come to daddy' is an excellent (if a little unsubtle) piece of work, plus the extra tracks on the two cd's are a must for anyone who want to hear what the future is gonna sound like. ciao, - -------------------------------------------- Jules Seifert 'The Voice of Energy' #Kraftwerk IRC Homepage:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:00:57 GMT From: jseifert@cableinet.co.uk (Jules Seifert) Subject: Re: (kw) Conventional methods Klaus Zaepke wrote: >Kraftwerk have often used factory presets and samples.=20 > even when they built their own equipment klaus??? ciao, - -------------------------------------------- Jules Seifert 'The Voice of Energy' #Kraftwerk IRC Homepage:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:41:27 +0100 From: Andreas Schepers Subject: (kw) APHEX TWIN was: new input (slightly off topic..) hello all, i just wanted to remind you of my aphextwin hompage at http://www.andreas.de/aphextwin/index.html maybe you'll find it worth a visit.... regards, andreas - ---- Andreas Schepers NetMedia GmbH Information Design Schubertstraße 8 schepers@net-media.de 66111 Saarbruecken http://www.net-media.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:00:49 GMT From: jseifert@cableinet.co.uk (Jules Seifert) Subject: Re: (kw) oscar wilde on a week-old topic stephen vesecky wrote: >of course, this brings up another point: ralf sometimes maintains >that kraftwerk are really just workers, supplying the demand. =20 > I sincerely hope not, 'cos if that's the case you could surmise that they are intentionally rarifying their own material. Jeez, it's easier to get hold of rocking horse shit that new kw material. > >hopefully, they would consider themselves artists in the end, and their >worker-stance is just another facet of their artistic & aesthetic = vision. >but is it the other way around? is their music just the illusion of art= in >a world in which art can no longer exist? > what? WAKE UP! Are you a student? hehehehe ciao, - -------------------------------------------- Jules Seifert 'The Voice of Energy' #Kraftwerk IRC Homepage:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:48:10 +0100 (NFT) From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) Conventional methods On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Jules Seifert wrote: > >Kraftwerk have often used factory presets and samples. > > even when they built their own equipment klaus??? Don't trust all this silly promo-babbling from Ralf Huetter! Kraftwerk haven't built their own equipment, except for these old drumpads (out of use since 1981) and a few other little gimmicks, of course. About 95 % of their equipment are standard items which you can buy in every better music shop. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:24:33 +0100 From: Andreas Schepers Subject: AW: (kw) Conventional methods hello, some days ago, on the bavarian radio (br2) was a short special about the german synth. manufacturer dopfer (http://www.doepfer.de) and their special developments and constructions for KRAFTWERK. unfortunately i haven't heard this feature yet, but a friend of mine who recorded it told me something about a "phonetic-keyboard" that they have built especially for KW. i will post more about it, when i finally heard it myself. regards, andreas - ---- Andreas Schepers NetMedia GmbH Information Design Schubertstraße 8 schepers@net-media.de 66111 Saarbruecken http://www.net-media.de - -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Klaus Zaepke [SMTP:fh5y013@public.uni-hamburg.de] Gesendet am: Montag, 27. Oktober 1997 15:48 An: Jules Seifert Cc: Kraftwerk Mailing List; Klaus Zaepke Betreff: Re: (kw) Conventional methods On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Jules Seifert wrote: > >Kraftwerk have often used factory presets and samples. > > even when they built their own equipment klaus??? Don't trust all this silly promo-babbling from Ralf Huetter! Kraftwerk haven't built their own equipment, except for these old drumpads (out of use since 1981) and a few other little gimmicks, of course. About 95 % of their equipment are standard items which you can buy in every better music shop. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:29:57 MET From: "CHIRIATTI CLAUDIO" Subject: Re: (kw) Conventional methods > On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Jules Seifert wrote: > > > >Kraftwerk have often used factory presets and samples. > > > > even when they built their own equipment klaus??? > > Don't trust all this silly promo-babbling from Ralf Huetter! > Kraftwerk haven't built their own equipment, except for these old > drumpads (out of use since 1981) and a few other little gimmicks, of > course. > About 95 % of their equipment are standard items which you can buy in > every better music shop. > > Klaus Zaepke that's not exactly right Klaus. of course you can buy the most of the KW gear in "better music shops" but the most of their equipment was developed and build by the manufacturers in corporation with KW before they released these machines for the "normal customer". Claudio Claudio G. Chiriatti e-mail:chir3301@uni-trier.de Civilization is the enemy of humanity Sturm und Klang fuer jedermann # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:43:38 +0100 (NFT) From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) Conventional methods > > About 95 % of their equipment are standard items which you can buy in > > every better music shop. > > that's not exactly right Klaus. of course you can buy the most of the > KW gear in "better music shops" but the most of their equipment was > developed and build by the manufacturers in corporation with KW The most?? I doubt that! We know this for the DOEPFER MAQ 16/3 and the DOEPFER A-100 Vocoder module, but these seem to be the only two examples, and Dieter Doepfer has stated in at least one interview that Kraftwerk's input was quite minimal and that he wouldn't really call it a cooperation. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 08:36:06 +0200 From: joakim.dahl@eklund.se (Joakim Dahl) Subject: Re: (kw) mobile homes (fwd) > are daf still alive? Yes, now under the name DAF.DOS > could you tell me where I could find more on this festival? More information about Stockholm Synth Festival: http://www.strokemusic.se/festival.htm The latest rumors. The Mobile Homes with the new member Karl Bartos will _not_ play (Special Guests) at Stockholm Synth Festival :-( All these rumors... /Jocke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:15:38 +0100 (NFT) From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) Conventional methods (fwd) Claudio Chiriatti asked me to forward the following message to the mailing list, since he erroneously sent it to me as private mail. - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:00:12 MET From: CHIRIATTI CLAUDIO To: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) Conventional methods > > > About 95 % of their equipment are standard items which you can buy in > > > every better music shop. > > > > that's not exactly right Klaus. of course you can buy the most of the > > KW gear in "better music shops" but the most of their equipment was > > developed and build by the manufacturers in corporation with KW > > The most?? I doubt that! > We know this for the DOEPFER MAQ 16/3 and the DOEPFER A-100 Vocoder > module, but these seem to be the only two examples, and Dieter Doepfer has > stated in at least one interview that Kraftwerk's input was quite minimal > and that he wouldn't really call it a cooperation. > > Klaus Zaepke Sebastian Niessen, who is an electronic-instruments and gear-builder said in an Keyboards (the german one) interview (sorry don't know the exact issue, but i have it at home and can check it out if you want) that he has also build some exclusive items for KW. Claudio Claudio G. Chiriatti e-mail:chir3301@uni-trier.de Civilization is the enemy of humanity Sturm und Klang fuer jedermann # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 18:38:13 +0100 (NFT) From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Sebastian Niessen > Sebastian Niessen, who is an electronic-instruments and gear-builder > said in an Keyboards (the german one) interview (sorry don't know the > exact issue, but i have it at home and can check it out if you want) > that he has also build some exclusive items for KW. If you refer to the same article which I remember, it was just a very short and vague bit, stating that Niessen did something for/with Kraftwerk, but without any closer details about the nature of this cooperation. Or do you mean a different, more detailed article? If so, could you please quote the relevant parts? Thanks in advance, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:33:10 +0000 From: Geoff Watson Subject: Re: (kw) Tomorrows World I've got the Tommorrows World appearence on video if you really want it. Kraftwerk don't actually appear - just the robots in the studio - presenter Judith Hann chats about how the robots will be left to perform on their own when Kraftwerk leave the stage , followed by a minute or so of robot visuals and the song as the programme closes . Not great from a Kraftwerk point of view but good that they should actually make it onto a prime time BBC spot. I've also got Robots on Top Of The Pops , but sadly it's introduced by Anthea Turner which renders it unwatchable as far as I'm concerned ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:55:55 PST From: "Led Belly" Subject: (kw) TECHNOPOP FOR SALE Technopop I am AUCTIONING my most treasured possession, a genuine CD of the never released album Technopop. As list members will know the album was recorded after Computer World and was scheduled for release (cat. Number assigned to it), however, Kraftwerk decided the album was dated. They went back to the studio and made Electric Café - which was released in 1986. Technopop master tapes were copied and 'leaked' from Kling-Klang, this is FACT. How/why this happened has not been explained to me. As a result there exists no more than 20 copies of Technopop in the world. I have owned* one of these 20 for many years and think that someone else on this list may appreciate being the owner of this CD for the next few years. If YOU would like to own this copy of TECHNOPOP please read the bidding rules below. To bid: All bids MUST be submitted directly to the list. This ensures they are public and will hopefully force the price up, to my benefit. There will be no minimum bid. Anyone may bid as many times as they like. I reserve the right to scrap the auction if it is not conducted in an orderly and proper way. Once a bid has been accepted, the bidder has the right to cancel if he/she considers the material to be not genuine. The auction will close at 12.00am GMT, 31st October 1997. * I can not disclose the source of my copy of Technopop. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:31:08 -0800 From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) MIAMI or BUST! KRAFTWERK Konvoy? *BLINK* -(ROBOT's Latest Positronic Brain Storm)- Hi, y'all! Okay, hypothetically: IFF -(mathematical term for "IF and ONLY IF")- the USA tour rumors are true, would anyone be interested in doing a KRAFTWERK Konvoy? Mercy sakes! Maybe a bunch of us out here in the West, a bunch in the East, and a bunch in the Middle -(Dallas? Chicago? Detroit?)- can charter buses or travel in "caravans", meeting in key places along the way, and we can all ultimately "converge" on Miami and rent a block of Hotel rooms. -(Wherever the boys are staying! We can scope out all nearby restaurants and look for R&F after the gig!)- IFF they DO come over, hopefully they'll also do L.A. and/or Frisco, too. Then those of us who can't make it to Miami won't miss out on seeing KW *LIVE*. Likewise, some East Siders might want to TREK on over to the West side as well, if the tour schedual permits. Just supposin' it IS true, it wouldn't seem feasible to come all they way to USA for just one performance in Miami. So, they'd probably FLY between venues. But, then, I've heard they usually transport Kling Klang overland by truck -(once it would arrive on US soil by plane)-, which would take a while, so, maybe they'll just ride their BIKES along the way- 'Rad Tour USA! -(Bicycle = Fahrrad. 1 or 2 "r"s? Sorry, I forget.)- And don't forget EPCOT Center at Disney world. ANIMATRONICS! Aside from the usual Lincoln, pirates, etc, they've got this one guy named Al Lectronic in all his ROBOTiK Glory, minus the outer "skin", see? R&F would LOVE it there! Maybe it'll inspire them to set up their own Animatronic Showroom Dummies -(along with a mock-up of Kling Klang and fully operational '91 style ROBOTS)- in NY, London, Paris, Munich -(everybody talk about M-Pop Musik)- and rig themselves up with full-body "Data Gloves" at home in Dusseldorf and do a Simul-Konzert via Satellite. We gotta do Tokyo, too, and Sao Paulo, and Stockholm.... That is; transmit the sound and have the Dummies "playing" the stage gear, and the ROBOTS can do their number as usual. They've been talking about it for over 20 years. It's time to DO it, boys! If I had a few million bucks, I'd build several "Kling Klang Klubs"/"Electric Cafes" and GIVE the whole business to them, with myself and a few other loyal Fans taking care of details at each location. They'd be running the show however they want. Oh, GOD, that would be too fantastic for words!*sigh*! Today, the world- tomorrow, the stars! YES! KW will totally Assimilate ALL life-forms in the Universe- organic AND mechanical! *mWAAAh-Hah-HAH*! The ROBOTS RULE! 4-EVER! Well, if I'm gonna dream, I might as well dream BIG. Let's have a Lotto-Pool and go in on it together! "madness takes it's toll...." ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 22:38:03 +0100 From: Farki Subject: Re: (kw) TECHNOPOP FOR SALE >Technopop > >I am AUCTIONING my most treasured possession, a genuine CD of the never=20 >released album Technopop. As list members will know the album was=20 >recorded after Computer World and was scheduled for release (cat. Number=20 >assigned to it), however, Kraftwerk decided the album was dated. They=20 >went back to the studio and made Electric Caf=E9 - which was released in=20 >1986. > >Technopop master tapes were copied and 'leaked' from Kling-Klang, this=20 >is FACT. How/why this happened has not been explained to me. As a result=20 >there exists no more than 20 copies of Technopop in the world. I have=20 >owned* one of these 20 for many years and think that someone else on=20 >this list may appreciate being the owner of this CD for the next few=20 >years. If YOU would like to own this copy of TECHNOPOP please read the=20 >bidding rules below. Sorry, Led, I'm a bit sceptic about this CD. Would you write us the cat.nr., the tracks and the track lengths... BTW, why do you want to sell it?=20 (selling copies of your CD would bring you more money) - Farki - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:21:49 -0800 From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Tomorrows World KW Video Alert!*WhooOOP-WhooOOP*! Quick note: - -(Geoff Watson says)- > I've got the Tommorrows World appearence on video if you really want it. > Kraftwerk don't actually appear - just the robots in the studio - Yep- I'm pretty sure this "Tomorrow's World" ROBOTS segment will be included on the KW Video Compilation. Coming soon to a VCR near you! > I've also got Robots on Top Of The Pops , but sadly it's introduced by > Anthea Turner which renders it unwatchable as far as I'm concerned ! Who? Oh, well, who CARES? It's a KRAFTWERK video, no matter WHO introduces it. As far as I know, ROBOTS from The MIX '91 and ROBOTS from M.M '78 will BOTH be on the Compilation video anyway. no sweat. ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 22:45:52 +0000 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) TECHNOPOP FOR SALE I for one bid for 5 bucks (including shipping). jbv P.S. I'm sure it's Florian again, trying to raise money to pay for the pressing of the first 1000 copies of the next KW album. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:00:24 -0800 From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) TECHNOPOP FOR SALE - -(Led Belly says)- > I am AUCTIONING my most treasured possession, a genuine CD of the never > released album Technopop. Okay, I'll bid 100 acres of "ocean front property in Ar-i-zo-na". -(some Country song. I forget who.)- All you gotta do is wait for the BIG one. An 8.5 will do nicely. Let's get ready to r-r-r-R-RUMMMM-BL-L-l-le! Shak Rattle and Roll. Nice try, "Florian". But, CD copies would be more adviseable- IFF it's for real. ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:01:13 -0800 From: "Phil Fegan" Subject: Re: (kw) TECHNOPOP FOR SALE I'll bid $5.50, and I'll collect it myself. I have a very rare recording of Florian taking a shower in a hotel room in Dusseldorf in the early 70's. I'll accept bids in excess of $1,000. I also have his soap-on-a-rope as proof of it's authenticity. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:07:22 PST From: "Christopher Gross" Subject: (kw) TECHNOPOP FOR SALE I'll raise the bidding to $5.50 and I'll pay for the shipping myself. (sits back smugly as frustrated bidders leave in tears) - ---- Chris Gross (cgross@erols.com, cgross@harris-pub.com, golem14@hotmail.com) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:12:55 -0700 (MST) From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (kw) TECHNOPOP FOR SALE > I am AUCTIONING my most treasured possession, a genuine CD of the never > released album Technopop. Our pet hoaxster is about one posting away from being removed from the list permanently. From his *real* account, as well as the fake ones. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:23:23 -0700 (MST) From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) Tomorrows World On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, ROBOT wrote: > -(Geoff Watson says)- > > I've got the Tommorrows World appearence on video if you really want it. > > Kraftwerk don't actually appear - just the robots in the studio - > > Yep- I'm pretty sure this "Tomorrow's World" ROBOTS segment will be > included on the KW Video Compilation. Coming soon to a VCR near you! Who was it that wanted to do that video compilation? Did I mention that I have The Telephone Call video? /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:36:02 -0500 From: tadream Subject: (kw) KW Konvoy Great idea about the Konvoy. Since I live in Toronto, I guess that puts me in the 'Detroit' group. We're gonna have to think about all the Kraftwerkers in Canada unless we organize a KW Canadian Konvoy on our own and join you guys down south. Regards Adam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 18:07:30 -0500 (EST) From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) TECHNOPOP FOR SALE 150 dollars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 00:13:42 +0000 From: Paulo Mouat Subject: Re: (kw) TECHNOPOP FOR SALE Ultravox5@aol.com wrote: > > 150 dollars I bid for US$2 billion. - -- __|__ ___\_/___ ___ Paulo Mouat, |___| mouat@mail.telepac.pt |___| http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/8804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 07:04:03 +0600 From: resin@tuna.net Subject: (kw) TECHNOPOP FOR SALE >I bid for US$2 billion. I'll bid 2.2 billion. the other day i checked the Kraftwer Media Center at- http://www.dragonfire.net/~petenet/kraftwerk/ you should too... nice!! darren p.s. I belive in technopop on vinyl. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 07:33:07 +0100 From: l Subject: Re: (kw) This & That ON topic! > Wrong. It's relative. SoundBlaster does sound "brilliant" if the song you > are working on calls for the sound of SoundBlaster. If you're trying to I would just like to add that some time ago, on a review of a techno song, I read something like "who could have tell that one day the sound of the tiny electronic drum toy by Mattel would have been in fashion?". and again, who could have tell that cheap (in every sense) equipment like 303 and similar would have reached auction prices nowaday? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 07:40:54 +0100 From: l Subject: Re: (kw) D"usseldorf's CityBeats is it true that D"usseldorf could mean literally "village of fools"? no offense, of course, just a curiosity. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 97 07:33:42 -0000 From: Frank Schelter Subject: Re: (kw) D"usseldorf's CityBeats Sorry, but D=FCsseldoerf means "Village at the D=FCssel", the = D=FCssel is a little river. Bye! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 22:42:25 -0800 From: "ROBOT" Subject: Fw: (kw) KW Konvoy - -(Tadream says)- > Great idea about the Konvoy. > Since I live in Toronto, I guess that puts me in the 'Detroit' group. > We're gonna have to think about all the Kraftwerkers in Canada unless we > organize a KW Canadian Konvoy on our own and join you guys down south. > Regards > Adam Well, sure- Canada is part of the same land-mass, and so is Mexico. It all depends on where the Fans are in relation to other Fans. Like, I'm all by myself in Eureka, CA, so, IF this thing were to materialize, I'd have to go to San Fransisco or Los Angeles by bus and catch a ride with someone going eastbound. Or, maybe someone would be coming down from Portland or Seatle or BC, even, and I could ride south with them. Then we'd hook up with a coupla others in Frisco, a few more in L.A, head to Texas, hook up with more people, and so on until we reach Miami. Canada is a BIG country- why else would you call it The Great White North, eh? BC Fans might want to skip the L.A. sektor and join the Great Lakes unit, or all of the Canuks might prefer to head East and meet in Quebec, and then join the NY group. Say you're in Toronto- if I have my geography right, I guess you could head "Due South" and join with others in the Great Lakes region and head South East and run into the L.A/Texas group. The NY group would also be headed South, so, eventually the majority of the entire Konvoy would meet probably North of Miami and pretty soon we'd ALL be THERE! It's a wild idea, but, we all gotta come from SOMEwhere and meet up before the gig so we can all enjoy it together! What a dream.... Don't worry- IF the tour is for real, we'll know about in plenty of time to organize things. Individual cars or chartered buses, whatever everyone collectively decides. I just thought it would nice to pool our resources and have a blast! It would have to be a team effort. The idea was brought up before TG that those of us here in America/Canada/Mexico should meet in NY and fly to Europe together at a reduced-rate "package Group Tour" deal. But, each individual -(or local pairs & groups)- would have to get to NY and back home again on their own, at additional expense. When I read a list of 40 names wanting to meet in Karlsruhe, I'm discouraged to read the reports that only a handful of List Members actually met each other. -(AND the _REAL_ Florian Schneider!*SCREAM*! Oh, you lucky stiffs!)- What kills me is knowing that I'll never be rich enough to travel -I can barely afford Frisco or L.A- so, I'm hoping they'll come out West if they do tour over here. Maybe if we all clap our hands and wish real hard.... Well, it worked for Tinkerbell in Peter Pan, didn't it? ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:18:15 +0100 From: robert.k@daltekvision.se (Robert Krenn) Subject: Re: (kw) Conventional methods Klaus Zaepke wrote: > The most?? I doubt that! > We know this for the DOEPFER MAQ 16/3 and the DOEPFER A-100 Vocoder > module, but these seem to be the only two examples, and Dieter Doepfer has > stated in at least one interview that Kraftwerk's input was quite minimal > and that he wouldn't really call it a cooperation. More offtopic info: Dieter Doepfer was at the Karlsruhe gig (Backstage I presume, that lucky SOB! ;) with his girlfriend. She was holding a little electronic gimmic that was broke, Dieter was going to repair it for KW :D //Robert - -- - - Robert Krenn http://www.daltekvision.se - - - tel 1: +46 (0)243 87858 tel 2: +46 (0)243 73504 - - - mob: +46 (0)70 5718622 fax: +46 (0)243 85402 - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:46:22 MET From: "CHIRIATTI CLAUDIO" Subject: Re: (kw) Sebastian Niessen > > Sebastian Niessen, who is an electronic-instruments and gear-builder > > said in an Keyboards (the german one) interview (sorry don't know the > > exact issue, but i have it at home and can check it out if you want) > > that he has also build some exclusive items for KW. > > If you refer to the same article which I remember, it was just a very short > and vague bit, stating that Niessen did something for/with Kraftwerk, but > without any closer details about the nature of this cooperation. > Or do you mean a different, more detailed article? If so, could you > please quote the relevant parts? > > Thanks in advance, > Klaus Zaepke no, you're right Klaus it's just a short bit but nevertheless he "did" something for KW. i guess he build them a modified version of his analog sequencer. but that's of course only speculation. Claudio Claudio G. Chiriatti e-mail:chir3301@uni-trier.de Civilization is the enemy of humanity Sturm und Klang fuer jedermann # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:23:23 +0100 From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) The KW-concept There has been a lot of complanes of the lack of concept in the new KW trac= ks played at their latest concerts (I was'nt there-too sad) but for me the concept is obvious - it's about COMMUNICATION! Any old-times-KW-fans would know this: the KW concept is not single-album-concepts, the KW concept IS communication: AUTOBAHN, RADIO-activity, ANTENNA, TRANS EUROPE EXPRESS,we're charging our BATTERIES (to go out and communicate as MAN MACHINES), NEON LIGHTS, =2E=2E=2Eon the c= over of a MAGAZINE, =2E=2E=2Efor a data DATE, =2E=2E=2Etime travel COMMUNICATION e= ntertainment, the TELEPHONE call, , MUSIC non stop=2E=2E=2E=2E THE SAME CONCEPT ALL THE T= IME: thats KW! The fact that KW performes these concerts or making new songs IS THE CONCEP= T - - They are COMMUNICATING - How about that for a theorie=2E Regards/johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk Digest V3 #168 ******************************* To subscribe to kraftwerk Digest, send the command: subscribe kraftwerk-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". 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