From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V3 #2 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Monday, October 25 1999 Volume 03 : Number 002 (mobility) Conan O'Brian/MOBY (mobility) tori amos & tracey thorn Re: (mobility) a cool idea !!!!mixtape Re: (mobility) tori amos & tracey thorn Re: (mobility) tori amos & tracey thorn Re: (mobility) OH MY GOSH!!!! Re: (mobility) moby introduction Re: (mobility) moby t-shirts Re: (mobility) a cool idea !!!!mixtape Re: (mobility) Plastikman/Hypocrisy/Delete me Re: (mobility) tori amos & tracey thorn Re: (mobility)German Records Re: (mobility) Channel Zero Re: (mobility) some useless Moby news (mobility) v3/ryu? Re: (mobility) Moby MIDIs Re: (mobility)German Records /very interesting Bodyrock news (mobility) next Moby single Re: (mobility) tori amos & tracey thorn Re: (mobility) tori amos & tracey thorn Re: (mobility) tori amos & tracey thorn RE: (mobility) tori amos & tracey thorn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 19:05:47 -0700 From: kimbalina Subject: (mobility) Conan O'Brian/MOBY Hi, Awhile back, did someone send the Conan O'Brian Moby preformance to the list? If so, can someone send it to me? I think I accidently just deleted it! *sob* - --kimby ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:58:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Jonathan Singletary Subject: (mobility) tori amos & tracey thorn i agree with you , man. tracey thorn and tori amos annoy the hell out of me. i think in electronic music, especially, it is becoming terribly cliche for a sad-sounding woman to be heard over drum tracks. lamb/louise rhodes, esthero, bjork, tricky & martine, elisabeth fraser on massive attack, onnalee & leonie w/ roni size, portishead... the list goes on and on. it's like come on! do we have to be sad and brooding all the time? i am a fan of this stuff most of the time, but i would like to hear more men. i got so excited when my friend got the double cd japanese version of 4 hero's 'two pages' and a man was singing on a track! so rare... i liked adam f's whole album , except for the tracey thorn song- i hated it. i just get so sick of that style of vocals. i think after everything but the girl's song 'missing' got played a million times, i got a permanent aversion to her. that's another reason why it's so good to listen to moby, because a lot of the time, he sings his own stuff. sorry for ranting! - -jon > >Insrtbrain@aol.com wrote: > Not to dis Tori fans, but uck. Something just bugs me about >her, don't >know > what. New one to add ~ the girl who does vocals in Everything >but the >Girl. > So talented... We need more males on this list... > __ Jon icq: 21047350 jwsingle@uiuc.edu http://surf.to/jon144k {{{{{my artwork online} http://zip.to/employment {{{{{get a job} http://zip.to/make.money {{{{{get paid to surf the web} __ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 00:29:08 EDT From: Insrtbrain@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) a cool idea !!!!mixtape In a message dated 10/24/99 7:58:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, JSoquet@aol.com writes: << Ok I know that Moby used to DJ alot. >> Just a thought (cuz I know he's hugely busy) but has Moby ever thought of doing a Global Underground installment? I think it would be soo cool cuz a lot of greats have done them and it kind lets Moby's fans know who he respects and broadens the semi-ignorant (like myself) of other artist that they might not hear about otherwise. Just a thought, that I think it would be cool. "You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 00:38:12 EDT From: Insrtbrain@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) tori amos & tracey thorn In a message dated 10/24/99 8:59:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jwsingle@students.uiuc.edu writes: << i think after everything but the girl's song 'missing' got played a million times, i got a permanent aversion to her. >> K ~ I think if the female vocals are done well and it meshes no problem. I hated Missing but that was a personal choice.. I just don't like the sound quality of Tori's voice. She may have talent as a song writer but a little of her goes a long way, like Alanis (as much as I love her message) you just can't listen to it for hours on end without cringing after awhile. Personally, I've always been a sucker for a great guy voice. And Moby has a great voice because he doesn't push it, he just lets it flow with meaning. Same with the guy from Goo Goo Dolls, when I first heard Iris, I cried cuz there's that much feeling behind it. Sadly after being bombarded with it constantly on the radio, it lost its power. Just a matter of context though. Nothing against female vocals, just bad female vocals. Nothing against male vocals, just bad male vocals. I love Prodigy, but they vocally suck ass, but that's not what you listen to them for. K enough, ranting. "You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 01:19:44 -0500 From: forest j flodin Subject: Re: (mobility) tori amos & tracey thorn if you don't like it....then don't fucking listen to it i do listen to that kinda stuff...and love it....and i don't really wanna hear you bitching about it... alot of people do like it.....and...if someone is moved to compose musik in a certain way...that is their deal...and if a record compnay wants to put it out...that is their deal....listening is yours. f On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:58:38 -0500 (CDT) Jonathan Singletary writes: > i agree with you , man. > > tracey thorn and tori amos annoy the hell out of me. > > i think in electronic music, especially, it is becoming terribly > cliche for a sad-sounding woman to be heard over drum tracks. > lamb/louise rhodes, esthero, bjork, tricky & martine, elisabeth > fraser on massive attack, onnalee & leonie w/ roni size, > portishead... the list goes on and on. > > it's like come on! do we have to be sad and brooding all the > time? > > i am a fan of this stuff most of the time, but i would like to > hear more men. i got so excited when my friend got the double cd > japanese version of 4 hero's 'two pages' and a man was singing on > a track! so rare... > > i liked adam f's whole album , except for the tracey thorn song- > i hated it. i just get so sick of that style of vocals. i think > after everything but the girl's song 'missing' got played a > million times, i got a permanent aversion to her. > > that's another reason why it's so good to listen to moby, because > a lot of the time, he sings his own stuff. > > sorry for ranting! > -jon > > > > >Insrtbrain@aol.com wrote: > > Not to dis Tori fans, but uck. Something just bugs me about > >her, don't > >know > > what. New one to add ~ the girl who does vocals in Everything > >but the > >Girl. > > So talented... We need more males on this list... > > > __ > > Jon > > icq: 21047350 > jwsingle@uiuc.edu > http://surf.to/jon144k {{{{{my artwork online} > http://zip.to/employment {{{{{get a job} > http://zip.to/make.money {{{{{get paid to surf the web} > __ > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 02:38:46 EDT From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) OH MY GOSH!!!! In a message dated 10/23/99 6:57:28 PM Central Daylight Time, Soccergrl01200@aol.com writes: << lol >> I thought messages like this were "breaking the rules"......Hmm....... ~Felicia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 02:40:28 EDT From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby introduction In a message dated 10/23/99 7:30:29 PM Central Daylight Time, a23_@hotmail.com writes: << >yeha , cool!~ I actually got introduced to Moby from my brother >in '97 , >im only 12!~ >> Oh shucks...I'm not the youngest one on the list.....There goes my 15 minutes!! lol ~Felicia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 02:42:19 EDT From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby t-shirts In a message dated 10/23/99 10:11:19 PM Central Daylight Time, Soccergrl01200@aol.com writes: << alright >> Alright what? Hmm.... I see what you guys mean about the 1/2 word mails..... ~Felicia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 02:46:59 EDT From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) a cool idea !!!!mixtape In a message dated 10/24/99 9:58:09 AM Central Daylight Time, JSoquet@aol.com writes: << And I know that Moby is getting back into DJ again. >> Wow... really? That is awsome! I would love to see him up at St. Andrews with just a pair of tables! That would blow my mind! Oh.... And happy B-day Mobility! ~Felicia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 02:52:08 EDT From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Plastikman/Hypocrisy/Delete me In a message dated 10/24/99 8:38:38 PM Central Daylight Time, corrugatedfunk@hotmail.com writes: << Plastikman "Sickness" That guy is insane. Track 2 is like having a ball bearing in yer head. Get it. >> I think that sounds fun! Is the ball in your head thing good or bad though? Is it anythin like the track "Bucephalus Bouncing Ball" from Aphex Twin? ~Felicia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 02:53:53 EDT From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) tori amos & tracey thorn In a message dated 10/24/99 10:59:34 PM Central Daylight Time, jwsingle@students.uiuc.edu writes: << lamb/louise rhodes, esthero, bjork, tricky & martine, elisabeth fraser on massive attack, onnalee & leonie w/ roni size, portishead... the list goes on and on. >> Actually, Thats what I think is so unique about it.... Specally Bjork! ~Felicia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:31:52 +0200 From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility)German Records Matthieu wrote: >MUTE 8859466 > RUN ON CDS $ 13.98 GER >MUTE 8868682 > RUN ON REMIX CDS $ 13.98 GER >MUTE 8868692 > RUN ON 12" $ 13.98 GER >MUTE 8868676 > RUN ON 2 12" $ 13.98 GER Hmm, I hate to burst your bubble Matthieu, but the 'Run On Remix' listed here is VERY probably just the 'Run On Extended' CD, since that one is not listed here... 'Run On 2 12" ' is the German 12" with the exclusive Plastic Angel mixes, but why buy it all the way in the US? http://www.cdzone.co.uk probably also have the German 12" listed... Bart (<>,,<>) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 01:01:42 PDT From: "Kelly Bone" Subject: Re: (mobility) Channel Zero There is a wonderful comicbook out right now which Moby is a fan of called CHANNEL ZERO. And yes HE said so himself. CHANNEL ZERO sort of flows along the lines of Moby's philosophical views... you should check it out. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:18:29 MET From: Matej.Novotny@st.fmph.uniba.sk Subject: Re: (mobility) some useless Moby news > WDMHFSB is after Honey Moby's first single to enter the Dutch charts. > > Which in itself says nothing because the Dutch main chart consists of > the 100 (not 40...) best selling singles and Moby came in on 92... > > Run On and Bodyrock didn't even make it to that selection of 100 singles! > Bleh > here in wild wild east, moby's doing quite well in the charts, on commercial radios, Run On went up to the top 20 and WDMHFSB is getting higher and higher every week. and on two of the independent radios ( guess it's all of the independent radios we have here) moby made it to the FIRST place with Run On. it suprises me a lot, because these radios push a lot of drum'n'bass and trip hop and then this m.manson and n.i.n stuffs, so moby somehow doesn't fit into their broadcast profile with his wide smile, bald head and bumpy songs like Run On. WDMHFSB is not so known here yet, but as i said, it rises and rises up. i also think that the next single should be one of these: Machete (but people will eat him alive for resembling chemical brothers :/ ) Southside (great pop song, i can see the video with moby riding a cabrio and waving to the people with a 9mm Beretta :) ) Porcelain ( certainly with good remixes, it could be a hit like Into The Blue was and in our heart still is ) but i like the idea with 7 someone mentioned here. really perverted ! luvya!!! yours kohut. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 05:37:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) v3/ryu? heh i noticed this is digest v3 but moby is on v2! and also wasnt RYU one of the original mobility kru? bye! ===== Even MTV BIGWIGS have heart attacks!!!!! SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com Hotel Detective PHIZZO JOBSON from The Ministry of 'Ousinje (aka >>>>>PAUL<<<<<) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 08:47:26 EDT From: "Stacey MacGrath" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby MIDIs Hello everyone! If anyone has any Moby songs in MIDI file, could you please send them to me(OFF LIST)? I already have God Moving Over The Face Of the Waters, Everything is Wrong, and Hymn. Thanks. ~Stacey ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 08:54:04 EDT From: Feelingbadlyreal@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility)German Records /very interesting Bodyrock news Bart wrote << Hmm, I hate to burst your bubble Matthieu >> Burst your bubble ? What's that ? Well,I guess I feel a bit stupid now. I was so excited about discovering a good rare CD ! But thanks for the adress (http://www.cdzone.co.uk). I did'nt know that store. Thing is with these online stores that they hardly never show what is on the damned CD To Paul maybe that Rythm and Stealth is not as good as Leftism but I think it's pretty good too. Furthermore, the original Sun is Shining can be found on many Best Of and on the Natty Dread album too. And I agree with you on the remix, it's definitely good stuff. Hope the new WDMHFSB ? 12" will be out soon with remixes as good as the Ferry Corsten one. Matthieu np: Cassius - La mouche (video version) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:58:31 +0200 From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: (mobility) next Moby single I saw on www.moby.org that the next Moby single is going to be Porcelain.... this is probably going to make a lot of you happy :), I don't think it's that special, a nice song, but not the best from Play. I read that the release is due for next month, and that it's only going to be released in Spain (???) This is strange! If this is true, I also don't think it will be on the Mute label (otherwise we would have had an UK release, right?) Moby.org also says that the single after Porcelain will be Natural Blues (which makes me happy :) cuz this is my favourite Play track!) Natural Blues is due for February 2000. I just ordered 2 great 12"s!!!!!! ======================= - - A white label promo by Ferry Corsten containing the '99 remix of his club classic under the name of 'Moonman' called 'Don't be afraid' and: **2** mixes by him of MOBY'S WDMHFSB!!!! Could be interesting! (this is a REAL white label (not just a white sleeve) so I bet this one is VERY rare...) - - The other one fits nicely in that "90's remixes of '80s songs" conversation a few days ago: Yazoo - Don't go '99 I've heard a Realaudio clip of the Todd Terry remix and it's ffffckn great! Of course when it comes to remixing pop songs Todd (and Moby too) is THE man. (remember Everything But The Girl - Missing (Todd Terry remix?) (<>,,<>) np: Yazoo - Don't go (pure coincidence, I swear! It just happened to be in my CDrom player on some compilation CD...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:42:32 EDT From: SPND17@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) tori amos & tracey thorn << i am a fan of this stuff most of the time, but i would like to hear more men. i got so excited when my friend got the double cd japanese version of 4 hero's 'two pages' and a man was singing on a track! so rare... >> There are a lot of male vocalists in electronic music. Take Alec Empire of Atari Teenage Riot for instance. He does the majority of vocals on their music. The entire group of The Prodigy are male. The lead singer of Underworld is male. The list goes on there too...The bands are out there. You just have to find them. - -Scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:45:03 EDT From: SPND17@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) tori amos & tracey thorn << Same with the guy from Goo Goo Dolls, when I first heard Iris, I cried cuz there's that much feeling behind it. >> There is no feeling at all behind the Goo Goo Dolls songs. They're from around where I live, and if you heard their old stuff, you would realize that they're nothing but a sellout band that knew what to write so that they could get on MTV and make a lot of money. - -Scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:59:36 EDT From: Insrtbrain@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) tori amos & tracey thorn In a message dated 10/25/1999 1:47:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, SPND17@aol.com writes: << There is no feeling at all behind the Goo Goo Dolls songs. They're from around where I live, and if you heard their old stuff, you would realize that they're nothing but a sellout band that knew what to write so that they could get on MTV and make a lot of money. >> Yes they are a sellout band. I totally agree. I did like A Boy Name Goo much better though.. I'm just saying I liked the song, it moved me on first response then it died. But there is nothing wrong with wanting to make money, kinda part the ultimate goal.. but they are incredibly boring after two songs (because they all sound the same) Pity too. They could be much cooler. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:58:20 -0700 From: "Chris Hand" Subject: RE: (mobility) tori amos & tracey thorn heh I am not a big fan of the goo goo dolls but on their first tour they were in debt in millions to their label after a boy named goo... so you tell me would you do...they aren't making a lot of money at all.. don't talk bad about a band that had to bust their ass to get out of debt, if that requires you to write radio friendly songs, then so be it. As for Alec Empire being a male vocalist worth mentioning, I am not too impressed...everyone of ATR's songs sounds the same, and most of the vocals are distorted to hell to even tell what message he is trying to get across..I like the chick's screams more than I do his ranting..digital hardcore is a bit amusing though. anyways.. back to stuff Chris - -----Original Message----- From: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of SPND17@aol.com Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 1:45 PM To: mobility@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) tori amos & tracey thorn << Same with the guy from Goo Goo Dolls, when I first heard Iris, I cried cuz there's that much feeling behind it. >> There is no feeling at all behind the Goo Goo Dolls songs. They're from around where I live, and if you heard their old stuff, you would realize that they're nothing but a sellout band that knew what to write so that they could get on MTV and make a lot of money. - -Scott ------------------------------ End of mobility-digest V3 #2 **************************** ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility-digest" in the body.