From: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com (movies-digest) To: movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: movies-digest V2 #95 Reply-To: movies-digest Sender: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk movies-digest Saturday, September 19 1998 Volume 02 : Number 095 Re: [MV] Depressing movies...... [MV] Point of no return/la femme nikita Re: [MV] Toronto Film Fest Party [MV] Depressing movies vs. Sad movies RE: [MV] Depressing movies vs. Sad movies RE: [MV] Depressing movies vs. Sad movies [MV] Movie News - 09/18/98 [MV] Deep Impact [MV]Rush Hour RE: [MV] Deep Impact Re: [MV] Toronto Film Fest Party [MV] Rushmore review [MV] Foreign films..... Re: [MV] Deep Impact [MV] depressing vs sad movies.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:05:05 PDT From: "Danielle Conkle" Subject: Re: [MV] Depressing movies...... Sometimes it feels good to cry. I think And the Band Plays on is my choice for this category. I don't know if it makes mewant to reach for a razorblade.....actually makes me want to do something to help. But it's a very helpless and frustrating movie, because you don't know what to do. Anybody care to share their opinion on films that they thought = >depressing? I am not talking about bad films but films that are good = >but also very bleak.......the type that make you think of reaching for a = >razor blade because there's no hope for mankind! Off the top of my head = >I can think of four......two are T.V movies one is from the sixties = >called "Cathy come home" by the director ken Loach and the other is a = >tale of nuclear war called "Threads"......the other two are a russian = >film called "Come and see" and "Henry potrait of a serial = >killer".......anyone got any more? >~ >Gerry T >~~~~~ >I think I could turn and live with animals, they are so placid and self = >contained, >I stand and look at them long and long. >They do not sweat and whine about their condition, >They do not lie awake and weep for their sins, >they do not make me sick discussing their duty to God, >not one is dissatisfied, not one demented with the mania of owning = >things, >Not one kneels to another nor to his own kind that lived thousands of = >years ago, >not one is respectable or unhappy over the whole earth. > Walt = >Whitman. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:11:14 PDT From: "Danielle Conkle" Subject: [MV] Point of no return/la femme nikita I saw Point of No Return, and loved it. I think it's a great movie. After seeing the original la femme nikita, i thought that was a good film too. But i still like the American version better. I'm not sure if it's because i saw it first or what, but i liked how hollywood treated. People seem to bash it, but i really liked it. >>I totally agree with "Threads". I liked it, but it was so depressing. >I've >>watched "Point of No Return" about 3 times, and it still depresses the >heck >>out of me. > >Sorry, but the only thing I found depressing about Point of No Return is >that Hollywood once again took a wonderful film that is literally a work of >art (La Femme Nikita) and turned it into complete and utter crap. This was >an insult to Luc Besson. Even the USA Network has done better with the >Nikita series. > >Regards, > >--Mel > > >--Mel Eperthener >president, Gowanna Multi-media Pty > >email: bcassidy@usaor.net > gowanna@australiamail.com > >http://www.webz.com/gowanna > >419 Butler Street >PO Box 95184 >Pittsburgh, PA 15223-0184 >(412) 781-6140 >(412) 781-6380 >1-888-45-GOWANNA -- TOLL FREE >(1-888-454-6926) >____________________________________________ >"Mulder, if you had to do without a cell phone for >two minutes, you'd lapse into catatonic schizophrenia" > >--Dana Scully >______________________________________________ > > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:43:16 PDT From: "Chantal Rousseau" Subject: Re: [MV] Toronto Film Fest Party >From owner-movies@lists.xmission.com Mon Sep 14 16:07:29 1998 > > On september 13, Jason Cormier wrote: "Was invited to an invitation only festival party last night and had myself >a great time." Lucky you! By the way, did you or anyone else had the chance, during the film fest, to see "Le violon rouge" from Quebec's director François Girard which oppened the festival this year or "The dreamlife of Angels" from Erick Zonka a french or foreign director. I'd like to have some comments on those two movies. Also, if somebody could recommend me a good and different foreign movie. Always on the lookout for new directors! Thanks! Lil'bee or as they say Chantalr66 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:05:43 -0500 From: Diane Christy Subject: [MV] Depressing movies vs. Sad movies I think for me there's a difference between depressing movies and movies that are sad. I know of quite a few depressing movies that were depressing because they were so bad. I think sad movies are movies that evoke a particular feeling of sorrow and if it's done well it can be very sweet to be swept up in sorrow because we can all identify with it. Keeps us connected as human beings. For some reason when I think of a sad movie, I keep thinking of "Charly." It was just such ashame that the man we got to know in the story was locked in his brain never to be heard of again. ~~~~~ Diane Christy (Samantha and Joshua's Mom) Jefferson, LA http://www.geocities.com/~dchristy10/ mailto:dchristy10@earthlink.net mailto:DChristy1@aol.com ICQ #12904700 ~~~~~ [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:20:34 -0600 From: jkrudy Subject: RE: [MV] Depressing movies vs. Sad movies I don't know, I'm feeling saucy, and ready to reap the world wind so I'll come out and say it, I cried like a baby all through Deep Impact and loved it. Any thoughts? JAMES K. RUDY - -----Original Message----- From: Diane Christy [SMTP:dchristy10@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, September 18, 1998 3:06 PM To: movies@lists.xmission.com Subject: [MV] Depressing movies vs. Sad movies I think for me there's a difference between depressing movies and movies that are sad. I know of quite a few depressing movies that were depressing because they were so bad. I think sad movies are movies that evoke a particular feeling of sorrow and if it's done well it can be very sweet to be swept up in sorrow because we can all identify with it. Keeps us connected as human beings. For some reason when I think of a sad movie, I keep thinking of "Charly." It was just such ashame that the man we got to know in the story was locked in his brain never to be heard of again. ~~~~~ Diane Christy (Samantha and Joshua's Mom) Jefferson, LA http://www.geocities.com/~dchristy10/ mailto:dchristy10@earthlink.net mailto:DChristy1@aol.com ICQ #12904700 ~~~~~ [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:25:03 -0500 From: Diane Christy Subject: RE: [MV] Depressing movies vs. Sad movies On 9/18/98, 4:20 PM -0500, jkrudy said so nicely: >I cried like a baby all through Deep Impact and loved >it. Any thoughts? why'd you love it so much? i haven't seen it. just curious. ~~~~~ Diane Christy (Samantha and Joshua's Mom) Jefferson, LA http://www.geocities.com/~dchristy10/ mailto:dchristy10@earthlink.net mailto:DChristy1@aol.com ICQ #12904700 ~~~~~ [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:01:48 -0600 (MDT) From: The Reporter Subject: [MV] Movie News - 09/18/98 "Octopussy." -- Director JOHN WATERS, citing the title of a James Bond movie, on how he convinced the censors to allow him to call his new movie "Pecker," according to the New York Post. -=> * <=- Director Steven Spielberg received the Army's highest civilian decoration Thursday in Arlington VA for "Saving Private Ryan," his gritty depiction of American soldiers in combat during World War II. Army Secretary Louis Caldera presented Spielberg with the Distinguished Civilian Service Award and lauded him for "reminding Americans of the sacrifices that soldiers make to defend our country." Actor Harrison Ford, members of Congress and World War II veterans who served in Normandy were among those attending the awards ceremony. -=> * <=- Beloved Hollywood actor Roddy McDowall, who began his career as a child in 1941's "How Green Was My Valley" and has always been one of the staunchest supporters of the movie community (he has also been a longtime confidante of many stars, including Elizabeth Taylor and the late Audrey Hepburn), has terminal cancer. Variety columnist Army Archerd reports that when he called McDowall on Thursday to wish him a happy 70th birthday, he was told the actor was resting and unable to come to the phone. Archerd says it was then explained that McDowall is terminally ill with cancer and it has spread quickly. Just last month he took part in celebrations marking the 30th anniversary of "Planet of the Apes," in which he played the civilized chimp Cornelius. -=> * <=- The steel bowler hat used to deadly effect by James Bond's evil adversary Oddjob in the 1965 movie "Goldfinger" was sold at auction at Christies London on Thursday for $104,800. The hat went to an anonymous phone bidder for about $850,000. Other items of Bondiana also fetched large sums, including the submarine shell that encased Bond's Lotus Esprit sports car in "The Spy Who Loved Me" ($50,557). Actor Desmond Llewellyn, who played Q in the films, attended the auction and was astounded at the prices some of the items were commanding. "I think it's fantastic, but these people are crazy," he said. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:02:28 -0600 From: jkrudy Subject: [MV] Deep Impact Well I just got wrapped up in the hopelessness of their situation. From the previews you would see that they were holding a national lottery to see who could go into the shelters and hopefully survive, but I put myself into it (probably too much) and I could see myself being picked and not my children. Also when very ordinary people reach their full potential during dire situations and sacrifice themselves for others. That just touches me what can I say. There were points about the movie that I didn't like and I'm sure a more professional movie viewer could pick it to pieces (I don't know that's why I asked) but I really liked it. JAMES K. RUDY - -----Original Message----- From: Diane Christy [SMTP:dchristy10@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, September 18, 1998 3:25 PM To: movies@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [MV] Depressing movies vs. Sad movies On 9/18/98, 4:20 PM -0500, jkrudy said so nicely: >I cried like a baby all through Deep Impact and loved >it. Any thoughts? why'd you love it so much? i haven't seen it. just curious. ~~~~~ Diane Christy (Samantha and Joshua's Mom) Jefferson, LA http://www.geocities.com/~dchristy10/ mailto:dchristy10@earthlink.net mailto:DChristy1@aol.com ICQ #12904700 ~~~~~ [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 22:04:03 -0400 (EDT) From: wonger@cyberdude.com Subject: [MV]Rush Hour Howdy, The guy from Asia is back. That's me. :) Not Jackie Chan. Although this mail is about him. ;) Rush Hour debut worldwide a few days ago. Has anyone seen it? It stars Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan - the martial arts veteran from Hong Kong. I have seen the trailer of Rush Hour and, in my opinion, Jackie's moves are slooowww... :) Perhaps a sign of old age? Heh heh heh. I mean, he is fast and furious-paced in the shows he used to be in, like Drunken Master II (oh, that's in Cantonese...). Rush Hour seems to be more forceful acting rather than natural fighting sequences. Anyway, I'll probably be watching the show tonight. Perhaps I'll have a different opinion after that? :) In the meantime, what comment do YOU have? Wong Sibexlink Sdn Bhd of Malaysia The Emerging Markets Data Center http://www.sibexlink.com.my - ----------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email at http://email.lycos.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:44:43 PDT From: "Danielle Conkle" Subject: RE: [MV] Deep Impact >I don't know, I'm feeling saucy, and ready to reap the world wind so I'll >come out and say it, I cried like a baby all through Deep Impact and loved >it. Any thoughts? > >JAMES K. RUDY I hated Deep Impact! But if you asked the whole row i was with (everyone sobbing...) then yeah, i'd say this was a sad movie. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Diane Christy [SMTP:dchristy10@earthlink.net] >Sent: Friday, September 18, 1998 3:06 PM >To: movies@lists.xmission.com >Subject: [MV] Depressing movies vs. Sad movies > > >I think for me there's a difference between depressing movies and movies >that are sad. I know of quite a few depressing movies that were depressing >because they were so bad. I think sad movies are movies that evoke a >particular feeling of sorrow and if it's done well it can be very sweet to >be swept up in sorrow because we can all identify with it. Keeps us >connected as human beings. For some reason when I think of a sad movie, I >keep thinking of "Charly." It was just such ashame that the man we got to >know in the story was locked in his brain never to be heard of again. >~~~~~ >Diane Christy (Samantha and Joshua's Mom) >Jefferson, LA >http://www.geocities.com/~dchristy10/ >mailto:dchristy10@earthlink.net mailto:DChristy1@aol.com >ICQ #12904700 >~~~~~ > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 05:34:00 -0700 From: Jason Cormier Subject: Re: [MV] Toronto Film Fest Party My friend saw the Red Violin and said it was fantastic! He really loved it...I'm not sure if he saw the other one though...as far as foriegn directors - some on the rise directors I like are Shane Meadows (twentyfourseven) and Scott Reynolds (Heaven) they represent Britain and New Zealand respectively. As far as foriegn language directors I do like Jean-Pierre Jeunet (Delicatessen). At 01:43 PM 9/18/1998 PDT, you wrote: >>From owner-movies@lists.xmission.com Mon Sep 14 16:07:29 1998 >> >> On september 13, Jason Cormier wrote: "Was invited to an invitation=20 >only festival party last night and had myself >>a great time." > > >Lucky you! By the way, did you or anyone else had the chance, during=20 >the film fest, to see "Le violon rouge" from Quebec's director Fran=E7ois= =20 >Girard which oppened the festival this year or "The dreamlife of Angels"=20 >from Erick Zonka a french or foreign director. I'd like to have some=20 >comments on those two movies. Also, if somebody could recommend me a=20 >good and different foreign movie. Always on the lookout for new=20 >directors! > >Thanks! >Lil'bee or as they say Chantalr66 > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > Jay the Movieman movieman@netcom.ca [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:59:01 -0700 From: Jason Cormier Subject: [MV] Rushmore review Another fest film review - this one from Wes Anderson whose first movie Bottle Rocket created some waves in the industry. This film plays like the geeks version of Ferris Bueller - but darker and odder. Max Fisher is our hero - complete with glasses and braces - and he is part of every extra-cirricular activity possible from fencing to backgammon to directing plays. It is this aspect of his schooling at Rushmore that he likes. Enter the dame - a new grade one teacher that instantly grabs the attention of our hero. She becomes his new passion and he does everything to gain her interest in him - even though he is only 15! Bill Murray plays a friend of Max who also likes this new teacher and this causes some very grown-up conversations - which are down-right hilarious! Imagine Bill Murray coming out of her house at 2 am and getting in his car only to find Max in his back seat - "So how was she?" And Bill Murray plays it as if he was talking to an adult...really funny. A good film that will be out next month - an 85% from me. ***Free review*** I also saw a German movie last night called Cascadeur (Stuntman) and it plays like a German Jackie Chan - but using the scripts of all 3 Indiana Jones - each scene was lifted - from X marks the spot to being dragged under a moving truck to finding lost treasures in the jungle to Nazi involvement! It was fun - but mostly only when there was action - and there wasn't enough action...Definitely a good first film for a guy whose been a stuntman all his life! He also acted in it as the lead and like Chan does his own stunts. A 76% for fun action but poor story. Jay the Movieman movieman@netcom.ca [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 09:45:08 +0100 From: "Gerald Taylor" Subject: [MV] Foreign films..... This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01BDE3B2.3054F580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chantal...... Are you talking just new foreign films? I watch a helluva lot of = foreign stuff and will be happy to reccomend some........how about = giving me an idea of some of the films you have already seen. Recent = films I have enjoyed have been L'appartment and pretty village, pretty = flame...~ Gerry T ~~~~~ I think I could turn and live with animals, they are so placid and self = contained, I stand and look at them long and long. They do not sweat and whine about their condition, They do not lie awake and weep for their sins, they do not make me sick discussing their duty to God, not one is dissatisfied, not one demented with the mania of owning = things, Not one kneels to another nor to his own kind that lived thousands of = years ago, not one is respectable or unhappy over the whole earth. Walt = Whitman. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>From owner-movies@lists.xmission.com Mon Sep 14 16:07:29 1998 >> >> On september 13, Jason Cormier wrote: "Was invited to an invitation=20 >only festival party last night and had myself >>a great time." > > >Lucky you! By the way, did you or anyone else had the chance, during=20 >the film fest, to see "Le violon rouge" from Quebec's director = Fran=E7ois=20 >Girard which oppened the festival this year or "The dreamlife of = Angels"=20 >from Erick Zonka a french or foreign director. I'd like to have some=20 >comments on those two movies. Also, if somebody could recommend me a=20 >good and different foreign movie. Always on the lookout for new=20 >directors! > >Thanks! >Lil'bee or as they say Chantalr66 > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] >=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01BDE3B2.3054F580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Chantal......
Are you talking = just new=20 foreign films?  I watch a helluva lot of foreign stuff and will be = happy to=20 reccomend some........how about giving me an idea of some of the films = you have=20 already seen.  Recent films I have enjoyed have been L'appartment = and=20 pretty village, pretty flame...~
Gerry T
~~~~~
I think I could = turn and=20 live with animals, they are so placid and self contained,
I stand and = look at=20 them long and long.
They do not sweat and whine about their=20 condition,
They do not lie awake and weep for their sins,
they do = not make=20 me sick discussing their duty to God,
not one is dissatisfied, not = one=20 demented with the mania of owning things,
Not one kneels to another = nor to=20 his own kind that lived thousands of years ago,
not one is = respectable or=20 unhappy over the whole=20 earth.
          &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;  =20 Walt=20 Whitman.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>From=20 owner-movies@lists.xmissi= on.com=20 Mon Sep 14 16:07:29 1998
>>
>>  On september 13, = Jason=20 Cormier wrote: "Was invited to an invitation
>only festival = party=20 last night and had myself
>>a great=20 time."
>
>
>Lucky you!  By the way, did you = or=20 anyone else had the chance, during
>the film fest, to see  = "Le=20 violon rouge" from Quebec's director François
>Girard = which=20 oppened the festival this year or "The dreamlife of Angels"=20
>from Erick Zonka a french or foreign director.  I'd like to = have=20 some
>comments on those two movies.   Also, if somebody = could=20 recommend me a
>good and different foreign movie.  Always on = the=20 lookout for new
>directors!
>
>Thanks!
>Lil'bee = or as=20 they say=20 Chantalr66
>
>_______________________________________________= _______
>Get=20 Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
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> - ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01BDE3B2.3054F580-- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 09:45:04 +0100 From: "Gerald Taylor" Subject: Re: [MV] Deep Impact Hey!! Maybe the movie was not sad........just the people around you were for enjoying such nonsense! > I hated Deep Impact! But if you asked the whole row i was with >(everyone sobbing...) then yeah, i'd say this was a sad movie. >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Diane Christy [SMTP:dchristy10@earthlink.net] >>Sent: Friday, September 18, 1998 3:06 PM >>To: movies@lists.xmission.com >>Subject: [MV] Depressing movies vs. Sad movies >> >> >>I think for me there's a difference between depressing movies and >movies >>that are sad. I know of quite a few depressing movies that were >depressing >>because they were so bad. I think sad movies are movies that evoke a >>particular feeling of sorrow and if it's done well it can be very sweet >to >>be swept up in sorrow because we can all identify with it. Keeps us >>connected as human beings. For some reason when I think of a sad >movie, I >>keep thinking of "Charly." It was just such ashame that the man we got >to >>know in the story was locked in his brain never to be heard of again. >>~~~~~ >>Diane Christy (Samantha and Joshua's Mom) >>Jefferson, LA >>http://www.geocities.com/~dchristy10/ >>mailto:dchristy10@earthlink.net mailto:DChristy1@aol.com >>ICQ #12904700 >>~~~~~ >> >>[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >>[ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] >> >>[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >>[ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] >> > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 09:45:12 +0100 From: "Gerald Taylor" Subject: [MV] depressing vs sad movies.... This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01BDE3B2.32C99F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some confusion has arose here. I was just trying to get a rough list of = films that people found depressing....not bad films just ones that have = a bleak outlook.....I enjoy sad films but what I was aiming at was to = try and discover more films that prove a gruelling, devastating = experience.....things like "Henry", "Threads", "Cathy come home", "a = short film about killing" and "The bad lieutenant". Films that are good = but offer no real hope for the fate of humanity!~ Gerry T ~~~~~ I think I could turn and live with animals, they are so placid and self = contained, I stand and look at them long and long. They do not sweat and whine about their condition, They do not lie awake and weep for their sins, they do not make me sick discussing their duty to God, not one is dissatisfied, not one demented with the mania of owning = things, Not one kneels to another nor to his own kind that lived thousands of = years ago, not one is respectable or unhappy over the whole earth. Walt = Whitman. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Gerry T ~~~~~ I think I could turn and live with animals, they are so placid and self = contained, I stand and look at them long and long. They do not sweat and whine about their condition, They do not lie awake and weep for their sins, they do not make me sick discussing their duty to God, not one is dissatisfied, not one demented with the mania of owning = things, Not one kneels to another nor to his own kind that lived thousands of = years ago, not one is respectable or unhappy over the whole earth. Walt = Whitman. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01BDE3B2.32C99F00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Some confusion has arose = here.  I=20 was just trying to get a rough list of films that people found = depressing....not=20 bad films just ones that have a bleak outlook.....I enjoy sad films but = what I=20 was aiming at was to try and discover more films that prove a gruelling, = devastating experience.....things like "Henry", = "Threads",=20 "Cathy come home", "a short film about killing" and=20 "The bad lieutenant".  Films that are good but offer no = real hope=20 for the fate of humanity!~
Gerry T
~~~~~
I think I could turn = and live=20 with animals, they are so placid and self contained,
I stand and look = at them=20 long and long.
They do not sweat and whine about their = condition,
They do=20 not lie awake and weep for their sins,
they do not make me sick = discussing=20 their duty to God,
not one is dissatisfied, not one demented with the = mania=20 of owning things,
Not one kneels to another nor to his own kind that = lived=20 thousands of years ago,
not one is respectable or unhappy over the = whole=20 earth.
          &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;  =20 Walt = Whitman.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
=
~
Gerry T
~~~~~
I think I = could turn=20 and live with animals, they are so placid and self contained,
I stand = and=20 look at them long and long.
They do not sweat and whine about their=20 condition,
They do not lie awake and weep for their sins,
they do = not make=20 me sick discussing their duty to God,
not one is dissatisfied, not = one=20 demented with the mania of owning things,
Not one kneels to another = nor to=20 his own kind that lived thousands of years ago,
not one is = respectable or=20 unhappy over the whole=20 earth.
          &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;  =20 Walt=20 Whitman.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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