From: orb-owner@xmission.com To: orb-digest@xmission.com Subject: orb Digest V2 #15 Reply-To: orb@xmission.com Errors-To: orb-owner@xmission.com Precedence: orb Digest Sunday, 18 August 1996 Volume 02 : Number 015 In this issue: Re: Compliments Re: Morphine Drip Benny Hinn (Morphine Drip), ENIT Festival, and shit. Re: ORBULLETIN: Orb/ENIT Schedule Update (includes CANCELLATIONS) Re: ORBULLETIN: Orb/ENIT Schedule Update (includes CANCELLATIONS) hello everybody! Re: hello everybody! Amnesty Orb picture discs Jim Cauty. Re: hello everybody ORBULLETIN: Orb/ENIT Schedule Update (includes CANCELLATIONS) New news re: ENIT & another tour Re: hello everybody Re: Jim Cauty. greetings and salutations new orb remixes Auntie Aubrey CD Mono? Auntie Aubrey CD Mono? Auntie Aubrey CD Mono? (fwd) enit festival enit festival See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the orb or orb-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher William Niemitz Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 11:54:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Compliments On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Nico Baars wrote: > One of the only things I'm still missing in my collection is the remix they > made for Wendy & Lisa. Somebody?????????? > Jesus, I haven't heard this mix ever. Info would be nice. I saw this (new) at a US chain store not long ago w/ a "Nice price" sticker on it, so it might still be available (although not so easy to find).... apparently it's going to be on the second vol. of The orb remix project. I don't think it's all the great, not their best but also not their worst... it's kinda dubby & hiphoppy, somewhere between the Erasure rmx & the Lisa Stansfield remixes...I think the vocals ruin it for me...Wendy &Lisa aren't the world's greatest singers, & much of the singing/rap is left in the mix. Now only if they left more of the Blue Pearl vocals in & took more of the Wendy & Lisa out....oh well c'est la vie. Think: orb remixing Debbie Gibson but leaving in the vocals... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: Christopher William Niemitz Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 14:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Morphine Drip On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Tim Rhodes wrote: > It is Benny Hinn. He's on the Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) and if > you haven't watched him you've missed some of the most over-the-top, maybe. but i still miss jim & tammy bakker... now THERE are some samples that would be worth their weight in gold... my sister & I watched the show religiously and would split our sides laughing the entire time. if only i could get my hands on that PTL club videotape library.... chris kusp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: Datboy Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 17:21:53 -0400 Subject: Benny Hinn (Morphine Drip), ENIT Festival, and shit. The videotape of the show where that particular fraudulent healing took place was very much edited down. A friend was taping the same show to try to get his own samples out of it, but consequently he didn't hear any ..... The editing is most evident at the "Hallelujah" exclamation toward the end of the sample, where the slice at the h sound occurs. The original broadcast focussed about 20 minutes on this guy, and he was pretty pathetic looking in the sense that his acting was about as good as Tim Allen's .... The bit that I myself find most amusing is where it's explained that "the man can control pain right to where he needs it" as though someone actually needs the sort of pain you would have if you needed a morphine drip. Does anyone actually know where the Marijuana Bomb sample (at the beginning of "Spanish Castles" from Live 93) is from? That one is also quite amusing .... Now ... about the ENIT festival .... I've just forked over about $500 to see the show in Great Woods (tix, rental car, plane tickets to Boston, etc.) and to hang out in Boston for a week ... and I'm trying to get my shit together for the itinerary ... can anyone tell me for certain whether I can tell my hosts to expect me in the middle of the AM or to expect me sometime after breakfast that morning? Does Great Woods have a curfew, and what time does the show start? The GW page says last time I checked that the show starts at 2p. Any info anyone has will be greatly appreciated. Thanks db # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (Manic Depressive Jubilation) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 19:12:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: ORBULLETIN: Orb/ENIT Schedule Update (includes CANCELLATIONS) > >so, was the rumour about the Orb not playing the curfewed dates squashed? > >I'm pretty sure that the GW show can only go till 2.... > > > > I read in a paper today that the Great Woods show is going full time (till 6 > AM). I suppose the Orb should be there. What paper? the Boston phoenix said that GW is curfewed at 11pm... dammit- somebody should get their act together.... If it is going till 6am, I can see the Orb- yeeha! - -- Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com "I want (Dick) to show the rest of us that it is possible to maintain a relationship and a large record collection simultaneously." -Nick Hornby, _High_Fidelity_ http://world.std.com/~fuzzbox/fuzzbox.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: chuckt@scsn.net (Charlie Todd) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 03:15:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: ORBULLETIN: Orb/ENIT Schedule Update (includes CANCELLATIONS) >> >so, was the rumour about the Orb not playing the curfewed dates squashed? >> >I'm pretty sure that the GW show can only go till 2.... >> > >> >> I read in a paper today that the Great Woods show is going full time (till 6 >> AM). I suppose the Orb should be there. > >What paper? the Boston phoenix said that GW is curfewed at 11pm... > >dammit- somebody should get their act together.... > >If it is going till 6am, I can see the Orb- yeeha! > >-- > Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com I read it in one of those free newspapers that you get in record stores. Not sure if it was true. Call the ticket agency- don't rely on me. i hope you see 'em! - -Charlie Todd *member: Interstellar Groove Patrol* "Grooving the country since 1978" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: miche Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 10:18:20 -0700 Subject: hello everybody! hello everybody, my name is Michele, i live in Italy and i'm 26. I really like all ambient-techno-trance stuff but especially i like orb.I have tried to find some early recordings like Space (orb related) or first singles by Patterson but here in Italy it's hard to find those.Does anyone have those recordings? If anyone is insterested also to Aphex Twin or FSOL or just want to discuss with me about orb records, well, you just need to E-mail me. my best wishes to everybody, Michele michedi@ba.dada.it # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: orbico@GlobalXS.nl (Nico Baars) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 10:01:45 +0200 Subject: Re: hello everybody! >hello everybody, > >my name is Michele, i live in Italy and i'm 26. >I really like all ambient-techno-trance stuff but especially i like orb.I have tried to >find some early recordings like Space (orb related) or first singles by Patterson but >here in Italy it's hard to find those.Does anyone have those recordings? >If anyone is insterested also to Aphex Twin or FSOL or just want to discuss with me >about orb records, well, you just need to E-mail me. Welcome to this list Michele, A lot of really crazy Orb freaks (including me) are discussing everything from live shows to samples to t.v. doctors at the moment. Everything in relation to Dr. Paterson and friends. I should say friend because I understand it's only Alex and Andy at the moment. After the discussions about the peel session II and Auntie Aubreys mixes we're looking for the new stuff to arrive (next to the remixes). According to Lazlo, the running man behind this list and the "unoffical Orb page", it's januari 1997 for the single and februari 1997 for the new album to arrive. So we have to be patient. > >my best wishes to everybody, > Thanks and talk later Nico BTW I'm also very interested in Aphex and FSOL, for discussions mail me privatly. > Michele > >michedi@ba.dada.it > > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: orbico@GlobalXS.nl (Nico Baars) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 10:20:14 +0200 Subject: Amnesty Orb picture discs Hi Orbies, Does anybody know about the so called Amnesty picture disc 7" with pictures from The Orb on it? I've got three of this picture discs on 7" There's no music on it. It contains pieces of pressconferences from people from Amnesty International about fundraising and all the problem with human rights in the world. It's about artists like U2 and Peter Gabriel making money for Amnesty. On one Tracy Chapman (!?!?) is talking about human rights. It's very strange. I bought the three of them at a record fair because I thought it contains music. Both sides play the same stuff and all three contains the same parts of pressconferences from Amnesty. Nice for the collection but I rather have some rare Orb stuff on it. Discs 1) Picture of Alex Paterson with Jim Cauty (KLF) 2) Picture of Alex and Thrash in the kitchen making pancakes 3) Picture of Alex, Nick Burton, Thomas Fehlmann and another one from the live shows (sorry, don't remember his name). It's a picture from UK mag Select. Does anybody know if there's a legal link with Amnesty about these singles? Nico On now Mike & Rich - Expert Knob Twiddlers (Aphex Twin and U-zig together making some strange easy tune on techno with loads of humor and vodka) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: "M. York" Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 12:13:49 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Jim Cauty. Did Jim Cauty used to be associated with the Orb. I'm a big KLF fan, but I'm kind of new to the ambient scene. Thanks in advance for not being too brutal with your replies. the euroboy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: "Lazlo Nibble" Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 11:36:18 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: hello everybody > According to Lazlo, the running man behind this list and the "unoffical Orb > page"... Eeeeeeee! What is it about the Ultraworld page that makes everyone think I'm the person who did it? It says right on the page that it's maintained by Wally Winfrey . . . please give Wally the credit he's due! - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: "Lazlo Nibble" Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 11:38:31 -0600 (MDT) Subject: ORBULLETIN: Orb/ENIT Schedule Update (includes CANCELLATIONS) > so, was the rumour about the Orb not playing the curfewed dates squashed? > I'm pretty sure that the GW show can only go till 2.... > > And is the Orb *not* doing the next night in Conneticut? All I can say is that according to the Orb, they're confirmed for all the dates listed, but those are the *only* dates they're confirmed for. If you need more details you should try to contact the individual venues. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: "Lance C. McGannon" Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 14:37:22 -0400 Subject: New news re: ENIT & another tour A friend of mine had dinner with Jack Dangers and Alex Paterson on Thursday night in Cleveland. He found out a few things that I thought the list might like to know. 1. Alex was angered at the ENIT organizers for listing "The Orb" as a live act because he was only planning on djing for the entire tour. He, supposedly, joins Meat Beat Manifesto on stage and djs during their set. 2. After ENIT ends, Septemberish, Alex & MBM are takig their collabor- ative group on a separate tour. The only stop I know of is a late september visit to cleveland. There are many more dates but the cleveland one is the only one I know. This tour will feature alex as part of the MBM lineup. Hopefully I'll get to hang out with Jack & Alex when they come back to Cleveland. I'll give you more dirt if I do! - -->-Lance--- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: orbico@GlobalXS.nl (Nico Baars) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 12:16:58 +0200 Subject: Re: hello everybody >> According to Lazlo, the running man behind this list and the "unoffical Orb >> page"... > >Eeeeeeee! What is it about the Ultraworld page that makes everyone think I'm >the person who did it? It says right on the page that it's maintained by >Wally Winfrey . . . please give Wally the credit he's due! > SORRY! Am I right when I say you're the person behind parts of the Ultraworld page?? And for Wally, sorry and all the credits you deserve Nico BTW Lazlo do you know something about the Amnesty discs I asked in another message? BTW2 Last night Dancing on the street on BBC television with music and interviews from the beginning of the eighties to ambient house with The Orb! From electro with kraftwerk to Planet Rock, Afrika Bambataa, Grandmaster Flash and Def Jam with Beastie Boys, Run DMC and Public Enemy to New Order and Derrick May, Frankie Knuckels to a short but nice interview with Alex sitting in some space chair in front of a wall full of planets, stars. Music from The Blue Room and Little Fluffy Clouds. Interesting and very good to see The Orb got much attention. >-- >::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: orbico@GlobalXS.nl (Nico Baars) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 12:37:45 +0200 Subject: Re: Jim Cauty. > Did Jim Cauty used to be associated with the Orb. I'm a big KLF fan, but >I'm kind of new to the ambient scene. Thanks in advance for not being too >brutal with your replies. > >the euroboy. Alex Paterson was a roadie for Killing Joke and their bassist Youth's spinn-of dance act Brilliant, who eventually featured Jimmy Cauty on guitar. When Brilliant broke up around 1986 Cauty teamed up with Bill Drummond to form the highly succesfull JAMS/KLF empire. Alex Paterson was also keen to work with Cauty and the pair joined forces as the Orb in 1988. They worked in Cauty's studio Trancentral and it was there that all early KLF and Orb recordings were created. The first evidence of their working was Eternity Project One on Wau! Mr Modo. Then The Orb's Kiss EP arrived and the pair started to remix other peoples work. Paterson and Cauty created A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That rules from the centre of the Ultraworld and came succesful with their remixes of KLF's 3AM Eternal and more like Fischerman Friend (Sun Electric) But was it Orb or KLF?? Classic album Space arrived. Orb or KLF? Alex and Jim worked on it but the team split. Jim and Bill go on as the KLF and Alex go on with Thrash as The Orb. The original press release says that Space was official intended as the debut from The Orb, but was no Jim Cauty's own creation as he removed all of Alex's contributions. But it's told that Space is still a collaboration of Alex and Jim. So, this is the link between KLF/Orb ( I know it's a short explanation but I think it's enought to see how thing went) Nico On now A Huge Growing.... (long time ago but it still sounds great!!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: Dj blue Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 13:33:50 -0700 (MST) Subject: greetings and salutations Hello, my name is Dj blue, and I'm a addicted to the orb. (claps abound throughout the room). The intro message said to introduce myself, so I am. I first got into the orb in Indiana, USA. I was at an underground record store (I think it was called underground records), and they were playing Current '93. I inquired about it, as I had never heard such sounds before, and he explained it to me, but alas it was already sold-out, and it wasn't even released yet. He steered me towards the orb section. He said I might like it. me: "What's the orb like?" guy: "well it's ambient techno mostly." me: "what?" guy: "ambient." me: "what's ambient?" the story picked up from there. I bought the vinyl Live '93 and that same week found a 12" perpetual Dawn single. I believe I even saw the perpetual dawn 12" picture disc at a store, but I decided to pass it by. (stupid me) well, now I buy whatever I can find. well, I pass on the bootlegs usually, but if anyone knows where one could find a copy of the Cleveland, OH, USA show from the Happy Happy Joy Joy tour, I'd be much obliged. well, I've wasted enough bandwidth. may the forces surround you. "Life is a sexually transmitted terminal disease" djblue@asu.edu --==--==-- http://www.public.asu.edu/~djblue # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: Dj blue Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 13:47:59 -0700 (MST) Subject: new orb remixes hey all, I noticed on the discography that there is a Prong "Rude Awakening" single with two remixes by the orb on it. It only indicated the UK version, and no mention was made of a US version. Well, I have the US version. Here's the scoop: Prong Rude Awakening Remixes epic/sony records ESK 7957 track one "subtle as a velvet doc martin-left (6:50) track two "subtle as a velvet doc martin-right" (6:50) track three "Klay angel mix" It also states that it is for "Demonstration only-Not for sale" the numbers around the spindle hole are: (real small) IFPI L422 (regular size) ESK007957 E2 1A 01 (in the black part reversed) IFPI 7501 well, that's everything. enjoy "Life is a sexually transmitted terminal disease" djblue@asu.edu --==--==-- http://www.public.asu.edu/~djblue # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: jangle@tvo.org Date: 18 Aug 1996 22:26:53 GMT Subject: Auntie Aubrey CD Mono? Hey all. Saw this on the Erasure mailing list (apologies to those of you who may have already got it): SNIPPETY SNIP - ------------------------------ From: bratmix@netcom.com (Daniel Barassi) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 13:51:12 -0700 Subject: Re: e orb mix re-released Stephen_Hendrie@Babylon.montreal.qc.ca (Stephen Hendrie) typed: Included in the recently released Orb Remix Project, called "Auntie Aubrey's Excursions Beyond the Call of Duty" is a somewhat rare erasure remix. It is The Orb's remix of "Ship of Fools" named the "Orbital Southseas Isle of Holy Beats Mix". - - ----->>It's necessary to point out a MAJOR flaw in this CD....it's in MONO! Somehow, when they pressed the CD, it was pressed in mono instead of stereo. The Mode track on the disc (Happiest Girl, Pulsating Orbital Vocal Mix) sounds a bit different, but that's because key elements are missing. :( A friend of mine just got the 4x12" blue vinyl UK set, and apparently the scratchy vinyl gets a stereo pressing. Excuse me as I scream. :( BRAT http://commline.com/~bratmix/ - ------------------------------ UNSNIPPETY SNIP Can anyone confirm this? What a ridiculous error, especially in light of how well the Orb use stereo to their advantage. Thanks, Stephen - ---------------------- Stephen Reese jangle@tvo.org - ---------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: "Lazlo Nibble" Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 16:46:54 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Auntie Aubrey CD Mono? > Can anyone confirm this? What a ridiculous error, especially in light of how > well the Orb use stereo to their advantage. I can -- I've got the disc and with the exception of two or three tracks, the whole thing is in mono. It's a pretty major fuckup. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (Manic Depressive Jubilation) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 23:15:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Auntie Aubrey CD Mono? (fwd) >> Can anyone confirm this? What a ridiculous error, especially in light of how > > well the Orb use stereo to their advantage. > > I can -- I've got the disc and with the exception of two or three tracks, the > whole thing is in mono. It's a pretty major fuckup. Y'know- I thought a LOT of those mixes sounded different than when I first heard them. I just figured LX did remixing on all of them. Guess I should have listened in headphones first..... - -- Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com "I want (Dick) to show the rest of us that it is possible to maintain a relationship and a large record collection simultaneously." -Nick Hornby, _High_Fidelity_ http://world.std.com/~fuzzbox/fuzzbox.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: Vigaldi@aol.com Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 15:05:39 -0400 Subject: enit festival looking for some information. Last night at the enit festival in New Jersey the Orb played 7 songs, 3 of which were new to my ears. The first two opening songs were terrific. The third songs played was "blue room" followed by the second song from the new album. The remix of Oxblow lakes followed this. The song after Oxbow Lakes and before Little Fluffy Clouds was absolutely amazing and I am trying to find out the name and if it is new and/or on disc. Could anyone terminate my mystery ? Vigaldi@aol.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: "Lazlo Nibble" Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 23:37:33 -0600 (MDT) Subject: enit festival > The song after Oxbow Lakes and before Little Fluffy Clouds was absolutely > amazing and I am trying to find out the name and if it is new and/or on disc. > Could anyone terminate my mystery ? I can't speak directly to the material they played at this particular date but I do know that they played a fair amount of material from the forthcoming album at the Organic '96 show a while back. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ End of orb Digest V2 #15 ************************ To subscribe to orb Digest, send the command: subscribe orb-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-orb": subscribe orb-digest local-orb@your.domain.net A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "orb-digest" in the commands above with "orb". 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