From: owner-utah-grizzlies-digest@lists.xmission.com (utah-grizzlies-digest) To: utah-grizzlies-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: utah-grizzlies-digest V1 #192 Reply-To: utah-grizzlies-digest Sender: owner-utah-grizzlies-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-utah-grizzlies-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk utah-grizzlies-digest Wednesday, May 9 2001 Volume 01 : Number 192 [UG] ahl?? [UG] Story from the Journal Sentinel Online Re: [UG] ahl?? Re: [UG] ahl?? [UG] SL Trib Article Re: [UG] SL Trib Article Re: [UG] SL Trib Article Re: [UG] SL Trib Article [UG] Deseret News article on Grizz to AHL ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 08:08:07 -0600 From: "Angie Reece" Subject: [UG] ahl?? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0D85F.2E05D200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello, this was posted on ihl message board. any comments?? - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= Report: Cyclones, IHL to fold=20 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------- Enquirer news services=20 MILWAUKEE - The Cincinnati Cyclones and the International Hockey = League are going out of business, according to a published report.=20 Six IHL teams - not including the Cyclones - will be absorbed by = the American Hockey League, according to Milwaukee Journal Sentinel = sources.=20 That will leave Cincinnati with one hockey team, the Mighty = Ducks of the AHL.=20 The six IHL teams are expected to officially become members of = the AHL Thursday following a meeting of the AHL's board of governors, = including Cincinnati Mighty Ducks chairman Pete Robinson.=20 The IHL teams joining the new AHL - or as some call it, NHL2 - = are the Milwaukee Admirals, the Chicago Wolves, the Grand Rapids = Griffins, the Utah Grizzlies, the Houston Aeros and the Manitoba Moose.=20 All six teams will pay $2.5 million apiece to enter the AHL, = with $1 million from each team earmarked for the IHL to help the league = close business after 56 years of operation.=20 The Cyclones (who lost their affiliation with NHL Carolina), = Cleveland Lumberjacks, Detroit Vipers and Orlando Solar Bears have been = plagued by financial problems and dismal attendance and were not = expected to be part of the IHL next season. The IHL, which had 19 teams = in 1996-'97, was down to 11 clubs this season and was on life-support.=20 The Lumberjacks almost folded during the season but were bailed = out and run by the league midway through the season. The Lumberjacks = lost their NHL affiliate last week when the Minnesota Wild chose not to = exercise its option for the 2001-2002 season. Efforts by the IHL to find = a Cleveland buyer for the Lumberjacks have been fruitless.=20 NHL commissioner Gary Bettman has envisioned one 30-team league = to serve as the minor-league affiliates to the NHL. With the addition of = the six IHL teams, the AHL would have 26 clubs. ****************************************** Check out the IHL Playoff race... http://gogrizz.8m.com/playoff.html - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0D85F.2E05D200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

hello,

this was posted on ihl message board. any = comments??

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Report: Cyclones, IHL to fold=20

Enquirer news services=20

MILWAUKEE = — The Cincinnati=20 Cyclones and the International Hockey League are going out of business,=20 according to a published report.=20

Six IHL teams - not including the = Cyclones - will=20 be absorbed by the American Hockey League, according to Milwaukee = Journal=20 Sentinel sources.=20

That will leave Cincinnati with one = hockey team,=20 the Mighty Ducks of the AHL.=20

The six IHL teams are expected to = officially=20 become members of the AHL Thursday following a meeting of the AHL's = board of=20 governors, including Cincinnati Mighty Ducks chairman Pete Robinson.=20

The IHL teams joining the new AHL — = or as some=20 call it, NHL2 — are the Milwaukee Admirals, the Chicago Wolves, = the Grand Rapids=20 Griffins, the Utah Grizzlies, the Houston Aeros and the Manitoba Moose.=20

All six teams will pay $2.5 million = apiece to=20 enter the AHL, with $1 million from each team earmarked for the IHL to = help the=20 league close business after 56 years of operation.=20

The Cyclones (who lost their affiliation = with NHL=20 Carolina), Cleveland Lumberjacks, Detroit Vipers and Orlando Solar Bears = have=20 been plagued by financial problems and dismal attendance and were not = expected=20 to be part of the IHL next season. The IHL, which had 19 teams in = 1996-'97, was=20 down to 11 clubs this season and was on life-support.=20

The Lumberjacks almost folded during the = season=20 but were bailed out and run by the league midway through the season. The = Lumberjacks lost their NHL affiliate last week when the Minnesota Wild = chose not=20 to exercise its option for the 2001-2002 season. Efforts by the IHL to = find a=20 Cleveland buyer for the Lumberjacks have been fruitless.=20

NHL commissioner Gary Bettman has = envisioned one=20 30-team league to serve as the minor-league affiliates to the NHL. With = the=20 addition of the six IHL teams, the AHL would have 26 clubs.

=20 ******************************************
Check out the IHL Playoff=20 race...
http://gogrizz.8m.com/playoff= .html

- ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0D85F.2E05D200-- [ To quit the utah-grizzlies mailing list, send to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ the command "unsubscribe utah-grizzlies" (don't include the quotes) ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 09:15:42 -0700 From: winger@aros.net (Steve) Subject: [UG] Story from the Journal Sentinel Online To: utah-grizzlies@lists.xmission.com From: winger@aros.net (Steve) Subject: Story from the Journal Sentinel Online This story was sent from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Online: http://www.jsonline.com. It was sent by Steve (winger@aros.net) on Wednesday, May 9, 2001 at 09:15:42 - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Grizzlie Fans http://www.jsonline.com/sports/etc/may01/admiral09050801.asp - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ To quit the utah-grizzlies mailing list, send to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ the command "unsubscribe utah-grizzlies" (don't include the quotes) ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 08:52:42 -0600 From: kristine.wilson@saltlake2002.com Subject: Re: [UG] ahl?? If you read the whole article ( http://www.jsonline.com/sports/etc/may01/admiral09050801.asp) it still looks like a bunch of speculation. At first, it seems pretty set in st= one, but as you read to the end of the article, which wasn't part of the pos= t on the message board, you'll notice it gets really vague. It looks like t= hat particular newspaper is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. According to the article, no one's talking except "a source close to th= e situation" which could mean anyone... Gary Bettman isn't talking, Doug= Moss isn't talking, none of the coaches or GM's are talking... I'm wondering who exactly this source is. - -------------------- Kristi Wilson Salt Lake Organizing Committee Medical Operations Coordinator 801-212-3734 = =20 "Angie Reece" = =20 To: "grizz= list" , "grizz2" =20 Sent by: =20 owner-utah-grizzlies@lists.xm cc: = =20 ission.com Subject: [= UG] ahl?? =20 = =20 = =20 05/09/01 08:08 AM = =20 Please respond to = =20 utah-grizzlies = =20 = =20 = =20 hello, this was posted on ihl message board. any comments?? - -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - -- Report: Cyclones, IHL to fold Enquirer news services MILWAUKEE ? The Cincinnati Cyclones and the International Hocke= y League are going out of business, according to a published report. Six IHL teams - not including the Cyclones - will be absorbed b= y the American Hockey League, according to Milwaukee Journal Sentinel sources. That will leave Cincinnati with one hockey team, the Mighty Duc= ks of the AHL. The six IHL teams are expected to officially become members of = the AHL Thursday following a meeting of the AHL's board of governors, inclu= ding Cincinnati Mighty Ducks chairman Pete Robinson. The IHL teams joining the new AHL ? or as some call it, NHL2 ? = are the Milwaukee Admirals, the Chicago Wolves, the Grand Rapids Griffins, = the Utah Grizzlies, the Houston Aeros and the Manitoba Moose. All six teams will pay $2.5 million apiece to enter the AHL, wi= th $1 million from each team earmarked for the IHL to help the league clos= e business after 56 years of operation. The Cyclones (who lost their affiliation with NHL Carolina), Cleveland Lumberjacks, Detroit Vipers and Orlando Solar Bears have been= plagued by financial problems and dismal attendance and were not expect= ed to be part of the IHL next season. The IHL, which had 19 teams in 1996-= '97, was down to 11 clubs this season and was on life-support. The Lumberjacks almost folded during the season but were bailed= out and run by the league midway through the season. The Lumberjacks lost t= heir NHL affiliate last week when the Minnesota Wild chose not to exercise i= ts option for the 2001-2002 season. Efforts by the IHL to find a Cleveland= buyer for the Lumberjacks have been fruitless. NHL commissioner Gary Bettman has envisioned one 30-team league= to serve as the minor-league affiliates to the NHL. With the addition of t= he six IHL teams, the AHL would have 26 clubs. ****************************************** Check out the IHL Playoff race... http://gogrizz.8m.com/playoff.html = [ To quit the utah-grizzlies mailing list, send to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ the command "unsubscribe utah-grizzlies" (don't include the quotes) ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 08:56:59 -0600 From: "Ted Bartkoski" Subject: Re: [UG] ahl?? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0215_01C0D866.02032C00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just look at the trib ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Angie Reece=20 To: grizzlist ; grizz2=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 8:08 AM Subject: [UG] ahl?? hello, this was posted on ihl message board. any comments?? = - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= Report: Cyclones, IHL to fold=20 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- Enquirer news services=20 MILWAUKEE - The Cincinnati Cyclones and the International = Hockey League are going out of business, according to a published = report.=20 Six IHL teams - not including the Cyclones - will be absorbed = by the American Hockey League, according to Milwaukee Journal Sentinel = sources.=20 That will leave Cincinnati with one hockey team, the Mighty = Ducks of the AHL.=20 The six IHL teams are expected to officially become members of = the AHL Thursday following a meeting of the AHL's board of governors, = including Cincinnati Mighty Ducks chairman Pete Robinson.=20 The IHL teams joining the new AHL - or as some call it, NHL2 - = are the Milwaukee Admirals, the Chicago Wolves, the Grand Rapids = Griffins, the Utah Grizzlies, the Houston Aeros and the Manitoba Moose.=20 All six teams will pay $2.5 million apiece to enter the AHL, = with $1 million from each team earmarked for the IHL to help the league = close business after 56 years of operation.=20 The Cyclones (who lost their affiliation with NHL Carolina), = Cleveland Lumberjacks, Detroit Vipers and Orlando Solar Bears have been = plagued by financial problems and dismal attendance and were not = expected to be part of the IHL next season. The IHL, which had 19 teams = in 1996-'97, was down to 11 clubs this season and was on life-support.=20 The Lumberjacks almost folded during the season but were = bailed out and run by the league midway through the season. The = Lumberjacks lost their NHL affiliate last week when the Minnesota Wild = chose not to exercise its option for the 2001-2002 season. Efforts by = the IHL to find a Cleveland buyer for the Lumberjacks have been = fruitless.=20 NHL commissioner Gary Bettman has envisioned one 30-team = league to serve as the minor-league affiliates to the NHL. With the = addition of the six IHL teams, the AHL would have 26 clubs. ****************************************** Check out the IHL Playoff race... http://gogrizz.8m.com/playoff.html - ------=_NextPart_000_0215_01C0D866.02032C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Just look at the trib

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Angie Reece
To: grizzlist ; grizz2

Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 = 8:08=20 AM

Subject: [UG] ahl??

hello,

this was posted on ihl message board. any = comments??
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Report: Cyclones, IHL to fold=20

Enquirer news services=20
MILWAUKEE = — The=20 Cincinnati Cyclones and the International Hockey League are going out = of=20 business, according to a published report.=20
Six IHL teams - not including the = Cyclones -=20 will be absorbed by the American Hockey League, according to = Milwaukee=20 Journal Sentinel sources.=20
That will leave Cincinnati with one = hockey=20 team, the Mighty Ducks of the AHL.=20
The six IHL teams are expected to = officially=20 become members of the AHL Thursday following a meeting of the AHL's = board of=20 governors, including Cincinnati Mighty Ducks chairman Pete Robinson.=20
The IHL teams joining the new AHL = — or as some=20 call it, NHL2 — are the Milwaukee Admirals, the Chicago Wolves, = the Grand=20 Rapids Griffins, the Utah Grizzlies, the Houston Aeros and the = Manitoba Moose.=20
All six teams will pay $2.5 million = apiece to=20 enter the AHL, with $1 million from each team earmarked for the IHL to = help=20 the league close business after 56 years of operation.=20
The Cyclones (who lost their = affiliation with=20 NHL Carolina), Cleveland Lumberjacks, Detroit Vipers and Orlando Solar = Bears=20 have been plagued by financial problems and dismal attendance and were = not=20 expected to be part of the IHL next season. The IHL, which had 19 = teams in=20 1996-'97, was down to 11 clubs this season and was on life-support.=20
The Lumberjacks almost folded during = the season=20 but were bailed out and run by the league midway through the season. = The=20 Lumberjacks lost their NHL affiliate last week when the Minnesota Wild = chose=20 not to exercise its option for the 2001-2002 season. Efforts by the = IHL to=20 find a Cleveland buyer for the Lumberjacks have been fruitless.=20
NHL commissioner Gary Bettman has = envisioned=20 one 30-team league to serve as the minor-league affiliates to the NHL. = With=20 the addition of the six IHL teams, the AHL would have 26 clubs.

=20 ******************************************
Check out the IHL = Playoff=20 race...
http://gogrizz.8m.com/playoff= .html

- ------=_NextPart_000_0215_01C0D866.02032C00-- [ To quit the utah-grizzlies mailing list, send to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ the command "unsubscribe utah-grizzlies" (don't include the quotes) ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:08:35 -0600 From: kristine.wilson@saltlake2002.com Subject: [UG] SL Trib Article Again, I would refer everyone to the original article written in the Journal Sentinal. The article in the Trib is directly quoted from the article in the JS minus all of the evidence that it is pure speculation. And, I also point out that it wasn't written by Brett who would normally go out and do his own research on an article. I think it's a great idea - but it's still an idea. http://www.jsonline.com/sports/etc/may01/admiral09050801.asp [ To quit the utah-grizzlies mailing list, send to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ the command "unsubscribe utah-grizzlies" (don't include the quotes) ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:13:16 -0600 From: "Ted Bartkoski" Subject: Re: [UG] SL Trib Article the trib will really only print "truth" ? and I think Brett is still in Germany so that's why his name is not on the by line - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:08 AM Subject: [UG] SL Trib Article > Again, I would refer everyone to the original article written in the > Journal Sentinal. The article in the Trib is directly quoted from the > article in the JS minus all of the evidence that it is pure speculation. > And, I also point out that it wasn't written by Brett who would normally go > out and do his own research on an article. I think it's a great idea - but > it's still an idea. > > http://www.jsonline.com/sports/etc/may01/admiral09050801.asp > > > [ To quit the utah-grizzlies mailing list, send to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ the command "unsubscribe utah-grizzlies" (don't include the es) ] > [ To quit the utah-grizzlies mailing list, send to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ the command "unsubscribe utah-grizzlies" (don't include the quotes) ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:21:05 -0600 From: kristine.wilson@saltlake2002.com Subject: Re: [UG] SL Trib Article Whether or not Brett is around... I still think it's too early to really get excited about this NHL2 stuff. The original article couldn't even quote a source and when the people who should be "in the know" were asked, they all either denied comment or laughed. None of the other newspapers from the "five teams" have articles about this. If a deal had been signed it would be in every newspaper. Still speculation... "Ted Bartkoski" To: Sent by: cc: owner-utah-grizzlies@lists.xm Subject: Re: [UG] SL Trib Article ission.com 05/09/01 09:13 AM Please respond to utah-grizzlies the trib will really only print "truth" ? and I think Brett is still in Germany so that's why his name is not on the by line ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:08 AM Subject: [UG] SL Trib Article > Again, I would refer everyone to the original article written in the > Journal Sentinal. The article in the Trib is directly quoted from the > article in the JS minus all of the evidence that it is pure speculation. > And, I also point out that it wasn't written by Brett who would normally go > out and do his own research on an article. I think it's a great idea - but > it's still an idea. > > http://www.jsonline.com/sports/etc/may01/admiral09050801.asp > > > [ To quit the utah-grizzlies mailing list, send to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ the command "unsubscribe utah-grizzlies" (don't include the es) ] > [ To quit the utah-grizzlies mailing list, send to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ the command "unsubscribe utah-grizzlies" (don't include the quotes) ] [ To quit the utah-grizzlies mailing list, send to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ the command "unsubscribe utah-grizzlies" (don't include the quotes) ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 21:13:19 -0600 From: "Ray B." Subject: Re: [UG] SL Trib Article I guess we'll know more after tomorrow. I think it would be a good move, except we'll still be the cousin way out in the boonies. ;-) Anyone know how the AHL handles ties? Do they let them stand as a tie like the NHL, or ??? >From: kristine.wilson@saltlake2002.com >Reply-To: utah-grizzlies@lists.xmission.com >To: utah-grizzlies@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [UG] SL Trib Article >Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:21:05 -0600 > > >Whether or not Brett is around... I still think it's too early to really >get excited about this NHL2 stuff. The original article couldn't even >quote a source and when the people who should be "in the know" were asked, >they all either denied comment or laughed. None of the other newspapers >from the "five teams" have articles about this. If a deal had been signed >it would be in every newspaper. Still speculation... > > > > > "Ted Bartkoski" > To: > > Sent by: cc: > owner-utah-grizzlies@lists.xm Subject: Re: >[UG] SL Trib Article > ission.com > > > 05/09/01 09:13 AM > Please respond to > utah-grizzlies > > > > > > the trib will really only print "truth" ? > and I think Brett is still in Germany so that's why his name is not on > the > by line > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:08 AM > Subject: [UG] SL Trib Article > > > > Again, I would refer everyone to the original article written in the > > Journal Sentinal. The article in the Trib is directly quoted from >the > > article in the JS minus all of the evidence that it is pure > speculation. > > And, I also point out that it wasn't written by Brett who would > normally > go > > out and do his own research on an article. I think it's a great idea > - > but > > it's still an idea. > > > > http://www.jsonline.com/sports/etc/may01/admiral09050801.asp > > > > > > [ To quit the utah-grizzlies mailing list, send to > majordomo@xmission.com ] > > [ the command "unsubscribe utah-grizzlies" (don't include the > es) ] > > > > > [ To quit the utah-grizzlies mailing list, send to > majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ the command "unsubscribe utah-grizzlies" (don't include the quotes) > ] > > > > > > >[ To quit the utah-grizzlies mailing list, send to majordomo@xmission.com ] >[ the command "unsubscribe utah-grizzlies" (don't include the quotes) ] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com [ To quit the utah-grizzlies mailing list, send to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ the command "unsubscribe utah-grizzlies" (don't include the quotes) ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 01:26:24 EDT From: PUCKFANZZ@aol.com Subject: [UG] Deseret News article on Grizz to AHL http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,270017770,00.html? Grizz going to the AHL?=20 Report out of Milwaukee says IHL is folding WEST VALLEY CITY =E2=80=94 Not too long ago, Utah Grizzlies president=20= Tim=20 Mouser insisted reports of the International Hockey League's demise were=20 greatly exaggerated. Now, if a report in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel is true, the end=20 could come as early as Thursday. The newspaper is reporting that the IHL, which was formed in 1945, wil= l=20 cease operations after its playoffs are complete. And that six of its teams,= =20 including the Utah Grizzlies, will pay a $2.5 million entry fee (with $1=20 million of it reportedly earmarked to help the IHL close business) to join=20 the rival American Hockey League. The transfer is expected to become official when the AHL Board of=20 Governors meets Thursday. Utah, Chicago, Grand Rapids, Houston, Manitoba and= =20 Milwaukee are the IHL survivors expected to join the 20 existing AHL teams i= n=20 a circuit that may be renamed NHL2. The other five IHL teams =E2=80=94 Cincinnati, Cleveland, Detroit, Kan= sas City=20 and Orlando =E2=80=94 will reportedly not be included in the merger. AHL president David Andrews has reportedly issued a gag order=20 concerning expansion and will not comment on the matter until later in the=20 week. However, IHL President Doug Moss laughed when he heard the merger=20 reports. "Oh really? I don't think that's what's going to happen. But to tell=20 you the truth, I have no comment on that. There's been a lot of rumors. A lo= t=20 of innuendo here and there," Moss told the Journal Sentinel. "I'm not commenting on any rumor. We're working on the playoffs. We're= =20 working on plans to operate next year. That's what we're doing. That's what=20 my concern is. So I've got no comment. I don't know anything about teams=20 joining the American League on Thursday or anything like that. Call me if it= =20 does happen," Moss said. Utah Grizzlies officials were not readily available for comment.=20 World & Nation + Utah + Sports + Business + Opinion + Olympics + Front Pa= ge =C2=A9 2001 Deseret News Publishing Company [ To quit the utah-grizzlies mailing list, send to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ the command "unsubscribe utah-grizzlies" (don't include the quotes) ] ------------------------------ End of utah-grizzlies-digest V1 #192 ************************************ [ To leave the utah-grizzlies-digest mailing list (big mistake), send the message ] [ "unsubscribe utah-grizzlies-digest" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ]