From: owner-yello-digest@lists.xmission.com (yello-digest) To: yello-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: yello-digest V2 #25 Reply-To: yello-digest Sender: owner-yello-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-yello-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes yello-digest Friday, February 13 1998 Volume 02 : Number 025 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 01:38:28 -0800 From: "Dan Mastous" Subject: Re: (yello) What NO AudioPhile Talk?? > > > I Thought We Established That We are Audio-Freaks?? I Rather Welcome > > the Technical and Intelligent Discussions About Audio on the List. It Shows > > That the Average Yello Fan is Usually NOT Your Standard Listener. The List > > is Very Busy, and the Disscussion is Tame and Very Good. No Bashing or > > Bad-Tones, Were All Friends Here. > > > I agree with Rocket Ranger... we are not run-of-the-mill people when it > comed to Music tastes. I see no harm, really I see much good in the quality > discussion. I am new to the Yello list, however, I know how important quality > is when listening to Yello. > > TheRock > Another thumbs up for "audio talk." I have learn quite abit about both the recording process, and createing mp3s as well as finding a way to hear what some of the tracks I never new existed sound like. Three cheers for audio talk!!! Ok maybe just some clapping? Dan Mastous url---http://www.metro.net/srdm email---srdm@metro.net srdm@juno.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 11:04:37 +0100 From: Andreas Andersson <95aa@ryp76.ryp.umu.se> Subject: (yello) Mp3 Hi! I've think it's been to much discussion lately regarding Mp3's and the quality of them. I think that the meaning with the Rare Yello Uploads are for us to hear the tracks by Yello we never got any chance to hear before. The quality isn't the most important thing - in that case you should buy the CD-single or vinyl. As I see it mp3's should only be a sample of the music and not the same quality as the CD. If it is that, then noone will be the CD's. 128 kbits/s is perfect - it doesn't take much harddisk space and the quality is good enough. When you go to 256 kbits/s (By the way, a CD-player uses 197 kbits/s, so isn't 256 kbits/s to overdo it)I doubt that many of us really have the computer hardware to make this sound as good as it is supposed to. Me, myself have an old, slow computer so I have to use mono and downmix in order to hear the tracks. I don't have the disk size to store large files either. I think it's nice to hear new tracks by Yello, but if I really like them I will try to get hold of them on CD instead of asking for better quality. /Andreas _________________________________ Andreas Andersson bostich@ts.umu.se http://www.ts.umu.se/~bostich _________________________________ Skyttegatan 20 B, S-981 37 Kiruna tfn: 0980-83312 _________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 11:05:32 CET From: "Henrik Betnér" Subject: Re: (yello) What NO AudioPhile Talk?? >I Thought We Established That We are Audio-Freaks?? I Rather Welcome >the Technical and Intelligent Discussions About Audio on the List. It >Shows That the Average Yello Fan is Usually NOT Your Standard >Listener. The List is Very Busy, and the Disscussion is Tame and Very >Good. No Bashing or Bad-Tones, Were All Friends Here. > >Shane of FTP What do you mean, "established that we are audio-freaks"?!? We all know that many of us list-users are highly interested in technical matters, especially concerning digital audio. I am myself. That does not mean that I think that this is the right forum for discussing those matters. Time after time, mails concerning different MP3's, different programs and stuff like that, shows up and I can not understand what they have to do with YELLO. Of course these mails concern different ways of getting to listen to Yello, but if we should start to discuss technicalities about all the medias with wich it is possible to listen to music, then we should never get the time to discuss Yello. I think that there are other lists on the net, where people interested in audiofile-programs for computers and for the internet are discussed and they will be perfect for such matters. On this list however, there are many people (yes it's true, I'm not making this up!) who aren't the least interested in technical discussions, but in discussing Dieter's and Boris' (and of course Carlos') work and what it means to us. Yes, we're all friends here and we've all met thanks to Yello. Now I hope that we all can show each other some respect by not filling other's mail accounts with mails they are not interested in getting... No hard feelings!(?) - Keep Yelling! - - Henrik ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 04:36:54 -0600 From: "Rocket Ranger" Subject: (yello) Gold-Rush Mixes?? Who Upped the Gold-Rush Mixes. Those are Some Good Sounding 128Kers!! Shane of FTP # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 05:38:43 -0600 From: ash73@indy.net Subject: [none] And while we're on the subject that seems to annoy some people, does anyone know of any software that cleans up vinyl for the Macintosh? I've heard of Spin Doctor, but they only make it for the PC. thanks, Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 04:48:55 -0600 From: "Rocket Ranger" Subject: (yello) Correct Me if I'm Wrong..... Was Considering What Mr. Anderson Had to Say About Bit-Rates... hummmmmm If I Sample 44,100 16-bit Words for 2 Channels PER SECOND (44.1Khz\16-Bit\Stereo) I Get 44100 x 16 x 2 = 1,411Kb\s or 176KB\s I Recall Sampling Streams to Hammer 172K PerSecond When Recording PCM-WAV@44.1\16 197Kb\s?? Where Was This Publiched?? 256Kers are Not CLOSE to the True Bit-Rate. I May Be Wrong. I Have Been MANY Times Before!!!!! Shane of Audio and FTP # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 13:19:59 -0000 From: "James Gillett" Subject: (yello) "Andy" Hi all, I've just been going through my Yello stuff, and I came across a CD by the group called - "You Know Who." It features 3 songs "Andy", "Quiet Evening" , and "Andy - Extended Version." At the bottom it says "featuring Dieter Meier from Yello." The CD No. is EMI 7243 8 63007 2 0 (1993) Dieter sings a few lines on tracks 1 + 3. Does anybody have anymore on this? As far as I can tell this isn't a promo. If anybody wants to buy this, let me know. I have no use for it. Yours, James Gillett gilletts@enterprise.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 15:59:39 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sch=E4der_Eric?= Subject: (yello) New (for me) old Yello stuff. Hi all! I just got four 12" with Yello and I have some questions about two of them. 12" Bimbo / Smile on you. It's from 1982 and it has a sticker on it that says "Ralph Records 10th aniversary". The front cover is the same as the 7" with the erroneously title B-side 'I.T. Splash'from 1981 (Do It Records, DUN 11). Both Bimbo and Smile on you are different than on the albums. In my ears they sound like earlier versions than those on the albums. Is this so? 12" Pumping velvet, No more words, Lost again and Bostich. It's Elektra ED 4941 and from 1983. The folder is white with no text what so ever, only a sticker that says "4 specially remixed dance versions 0-66979" It looks like like it could be this one. (cut from Jonas discography) "15 Nov 1983 US 12" Pumping Velvet Pumping Velvet 5.02 [extended remix] [remixed by Blank/Tregoning]/ No More Words 5.46 [extended remix] [remixed by Blank/Tregoning]// Lost Again 7.15 [extended]/ Bostich (N'est-ce pas) 4.34 [extended remix] (Elektra, 0-66979)" But it doesn't say anything about who made the remixes on my record. It only says "Produced and engineered by Yello 1983 Elektra/Asylum Records for the U.S." and "Promotional copy , Not for sale" on the record itself. The track times are also a bit different. Pumping Velvet 5.03 No More Words 5.45 Lost Again 7.11 Bostich 4.32 (and it does not say "N'est-ce pas. However it sounds exactly like it). After avery track it says "Vocal/ST-ED66979-A-SP/track time/Extended Dance Version". I guess that they are the same. Does it excist only as a promo or both as a promo and official and if so, are those versions different in any way (considering the different track times). Regards Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 18:53:08 +0200 From: Juhana K Kouhia Subject: Re: (yello) MP3's >From: Marko =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E4tsikk=E4?= > >BTW, it's very stange that people want real good MP3 quality. I think >that it is enough if one could hear some track never has heard before. >But collecting MP3's or other copies, I don't get it! Perhaps we should tell you why? >IMHO the best way would be to collect original stuff, so all money goes >to the artists. On the other hand, how much are MP3's worth? Here are some reasons for having mp3: -first, mp3 is not the main thing; I rather would like to have the plain 96000 Hz, 20 bits recordings :-) but it would take much disk space; mp3 is a good compromise; -we can digitally clean the digital data; you cannot do that with vinyl; it doesn't make sense that every Yello fan should clean their own vinyls --- cleaning can be done by one person, only once; -I would clean a song by recording it from two or more vinyls (the same release) because the pops in two vinyls hardly are identical; I guess no Yello fan would buy two or three copies of the same release; -the money does *not* go to Yello; they have got their money when the rare vinyl was purchased --- the money $$$ goes to a mercenary record saler (perhaps not even Yello fan) who want to get big money $$$ just because the vinyl is rare; I would buy every Yello record if they would be (i) available, (ii) reasonable priced; period. Sincerely Yello's, Juhana # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 14:18:34 EST From: FGriego@aol.com Subject: Re: (yello) What NO AudioPhile Talk?? It has fairly obvious we have a problem seeing the forest from the trees here. Before I go into an parable spewing tirade I would like to suggest a means to rectify what I see as a problem. Maybe if those of you wishing to discuss "tech-talk" would include something like "(ftp)" in the subject of your transmis- sion it would make life more bearable for those of us that are not interested. Or, since it has become clear who wants to partake in these discussions-why not develop your own subdirectory network? Though it may be hard for you to comprehend that I, for one, as a devout Yello fan, just don't find entertainment value in discussing how many 1's and 0's make up a song. Pardon the analog pun but it just makes me reel.What does it hurt? How about the integrity of the forum? The "All rights reserved" statement (on the CD or LP) does not include the words "unless you really, really like Yello." Or, "Unless you are strapped for cash." The guys that operate automobile chop shops (where stolen cars are dismantled) probably love cars. Astronomers talking about telescopes... I'm not asking anyone to take sides. Merely stating my opinion. Spare me. Regards, FG "I said Tanqueray on the rocks!" (Capt.Exxon Valdez) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 07:40:02 EST From: "Chris Norton" Subject: (yello) Yello: Propellerheads of the 80s?? You might be interested in this record review from today's "Sydney Morning Herald": - ------------------ PROPELLERHEADS - Decksandrumsandrockandroll ***1/2 A great singles outfit? For sure. A great album crew? Let me get back to you about that. The Yello of the '90s? Quite possibly ... not that there's anything wrong with that. After all, Yello may seem a little quaint now but it was the Swiss duo and not any of the critics' faves of the '80s who brought new fans to electronic pop. Of the quiver of smashing singles Propellerheads released before this debut album, only one is represented here, 'Take California'. It bubbles provocatively then breaks down to a monster size hook, but there's an even bigger hook in 'Echo and Bounce', which really brings home the Yello comparisons - a chugging electro rhythm which is a more aurally polished take on the mid-'80s sound. Breakbeats figure on 'Decksand...' but don't dominate, the solid hit to the solar plexus is swapped for the sinuous groove of 'Winning Style' or the sheer cheesy pop grandeur of 'History Repeating'. 'History' features the stentorian Shirley Bassey and cements the Yello aesthetic amusingly, even as it takes the easy route for a group capable of harder sounds packaged deceptively. That would be the main criticism of this album: there's a step back from the edge which disappoints - not because it makes for a weak album, but because they have suggested the capacity to explore more than they do here. Still,, I haven't stopped dancing to this for weeks - BERNARD ZUEL - ------------------ You wonder who's being reviewed here! Chris ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 22:36:33 +0100 From: "Jonas Warstad" Subject: SV: (yello) New (for me) old Yello stuff. >12" Bimbo / Smile on you. In my ears they sound >like earlier versions than those on the albums. Is this so? Bimbo = later, Smile on You = earlier (of course). >It looks like like it could be this one. (cut from Jonas discography) >"15 Nov 1983 US 12" Pumping Velvet It's that one. Like I say on my Yello page: "official releases and important promotional items only" Almost all releases exist as promotional items - same tracks as regular releases but usually with a plain cover and with as little information as possible. I saw no reason to include them, as Lazlo already included promos in his discog. I wanted my discog to be different, otherwise there would be no use in doing it. SOME promo items are included though, e.g those that include unique material/versions. >The track times are also a bit different. I always put one and the same duration and title and remix info for all versions that are the same, no matter what the label says. Usually duration varies a few seconds depending on what country it's manufactured in, but that's the *given* duration, not the *actual* duration, which is, or rather *should* be, the same everytime. I clocked all tracks/versions (from CD if available, and from vinyl if not on CD) to set a standard in the confusing world of Yello releases and versions. When it comes to titles, I use the original German title, which should be the correct one. If remixer's info isn't included on any given release, then I put it anyway in the discog so as to avoid confusion - after all, it's the same version. I also have lists of all 12" mixes that Boris himself mixed, B-sides, single versions, etcetera, in case anyone missed them. Anyone who subscribes to Yello mailing list is supposed to read my Yello F.A.Q (Frequently Asked Questions) in order to avoid the same questions being asked time and time again. I don't mean to point to any specific person here, especially not Eric. And most importantly, Lazlo Nibble, who runs this mailing list, is supposed to mention and link to my Yello FAQ from his "Yello mailing list info page", which wasn't done yet the last time I checked. JW ******************************************************* THE MUSIC WORLD OF JONAS WARSTAD: http://www.algonet.se/~jonwar ******************************************************* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 23:13:43 +0100 From: "Per-Stian Vatne" Subject: Re: (yello) To The Sea |<< I haven't checked the FTP site yet, but is the 'Bangin' Mix' | of To The Sea up there? I'm sure it would be greatly appreciated. >> | |This is my very favorite To The Sea remix! Should have been on the = album. Regarding "To the Sea" and remixes... I read something about a version = made by a norwegian, DJ Strangefruit aka. Paal Nyhus. Is this on the = single or something? (a single which I do not own or have listened to)? If it's on the single, I can just go buy the single - but if not, and = anyone has a copy, could you please encode it and put it on the = excellent FTP server?=20 Regards, Per-Stian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 22:42:42 +0100 From: "Per-Stian Vatne" Subject: Re: (yello) new files coming |I'm in the process of uploading these: | |Call it Love (Trego Snare) |Goldrush I |Goldrush II |Oh Yeah (Indian Summer Version) |Rubberband Man (Rubber Version) Great. |Anyone interested in stuff like "Tied Up in Africa" or "The Race (Pits |Mix)"? (non-Boris mixes but rather good IMO) Yes! Very much indeed. I really like these two tracks very much, both = "Tied up" / "Tied up in red" and "The Race" from "Flag" (1988) are among = my favorites. I've heard about a lot of mixes of these, but they're hard = to get hold of in Norway where I live. Btw, thanks a lot to the guy who made FTP space available for Yello = music - this is about the only way I get to listen to stuff besides = their "normal" albums. Regards, Per-Stian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 11:10:30 +1100 From: "Simon McBurney" Subject: (yello) Att: Rocket man :) Hey Mr Rocket Ranger, what is ICQ and how do i use it. need help. is that the same as IRC How do I find you. Pleas reply very soon yhanks Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 22:29:58 EST From: ARWales@aol.com Subject: Re: (yello) What NO AudioPhile Talk?? FG wrote: << Though it may be hard for you to comprehend that I, for one, as a devout Yello fan, just don't find entertainment value in discussing how many 1's and 0's make up a song. Pardon the analog pun but it just makes me reel.What does it hurt? How about the integrity of the forum? >> As probably obvious by now I am in complete agreement with FG and Henrik. If people want to fill their own mailboxes with talk of MP3s, then fine, it's just I, personally am not really interested. This is not meant as an insult in any shape or form, I joined this list to talk about Yello and their music and I'm curious to know how people got to like the band and what things about them they like. Next month a teacher friend of mine has asked me to talk to her media-studies class about Yello (average age of pupil: 18). She had played them a number of tracks by various groups, one of these being "On the Run", with the idea of them imagining and maybe directing a video to accompany the track. Anyway, "On the Run" really caught their imagination (it was a mixed class, about 60:40 Female:Male ratio) and although none of them had ever heard of Yello, they're keen to find out more - which is where I come in. So I'm looking forward to this - a chance to spread the "gospel", so to speak. I'll be talking to them about the music and how they react to it, where Yello came from and how they've changed and all I am saying that this is what I'd expect to do on this list as well. Ciao Andrew Wales ARWales@aol.com PS happy to hear from anyone who might also be into Conlon Nancarrow, Harry Partch or Gyorgy Ligeti. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:40:17 +1100 From: "Simon McBurney" Subject: (yello) Subjects OK If anyone wants to talk to me about MP3, Restoration etc........ mail me directly. I realise that this mailing list is for Yello associated subjects. So if anyone wants me inparticular my Address is imagetec@powerup.com.au . Thanks for the extending my knowledge about Yello. Simon McBurney. (Hamma)(Quake nickname) :) :) :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:16:05 GMT/BST From: nic Subject: (yello) Fontana >From: "decen.svensson" >By the way >the name Fontana at the back of the album Flag has that anything to do >with >Patrizia? Hi, Don't think so, Fontana is a record label, certainly in the UK it has been around since the 1960's possibly earlier. I guess that when Flag was released that Fontana had something to do with the company doing the release. It's not on my copy of the CD (Mercury/UK release) so maybe it's the vinyl pressing plant? Does anyone have a definitive list of the record companies involved with Yello in each country? Can this be worked out from the discography? (Have I just given myself a job?!) nic - -- - -- We are the architects, not the victims, of our own destiny -- - -- nic nic at python.demon.co.uk http://www.python.demon.co.uk/ -- - -- Bolton, UK website http://www.bolton.ac.uk/bolton/ -- - -- Digital Equipment VAX hardware running OpenVMS/X-Windows-Motif -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 11:51:03 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sch=E4der_Eric?= Subject: (yello) Album rankin Well I hate to dissapoint you, but there will be no result today. The reason is that I receive some mails up to four days after they have been sent, so maybe there are some mails on their way. I'll bee gone next week. I'm going skiing with my family so that gives you who haven't sent any ranking to me another week and when I return I will present the result. That'll be somewhere around 24 och 25 this month. Until then Take care, I'm going off pist. Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 11:29:55 -0800 From: "James Gillett" Subject: (yello) Refreshing >>So I'm looking forward to this - a chance to spread the "gospel", so to speak. I'll be talking to them about the music and how they react to it, where Yello came from and how they've changed and all I am saying that this is what I'd expect to do on this list as well. It's nice to hear that Yello is communicating with people of all ages here; and how refreshing that 'On The Run' continues to make an impression on new listeners. If I was in a position to promote Yello (or to put it better, explain where they are 'coming from') to such a group, I would hope that the music was an excellent example of perhaps forming a healthy and open attitude towards music. Nice to see that the technical discussions are less in number now; - and I still do not understand why the Yello list had to be subjected to audio-quality talk.. between 2 people!! As has been stated before, I am sure that there are lists dedicated to these technical matters - and I urge you to look for and join these lists. Thankyou. With the Propellerheads review, I think we are left guessing as who exactly 'is' being reviewed here! Though I wouldn't like to comment on the group (as I have only heard "History repeating...") it could be interesting to listen to more of their stuff. All the best, James # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:42:26 +0000 From: "Minstrel Arts" Subject: Re: (yello) Re: Soundfiles & technophilia > > This time it's my turn to say that I totally agree. Since I'm not > > interested in MP3's and stuff I disagree, because the messages about MP3's are just as Yello-related as the other messages and therefor have all the right to be spread on this list. > BTW, it's very stange that people want real good MP3 quality. I think > that it is enough if one could hear some track never has heard before. > But collecting MP3's or other copies, I don't get it! Is it really that strange? I will most definitely buy all those rare tracks if I find them in the stores, but I doubt that I'll be able to find even a tenth of what's on the ftp-site during the rest of my life. Taking that in consideration, maybe it's understandable that I like the MP3's to be of a high quality, so that it's more attractive to listen to them every once in a while and I'll be able to enjoy the music I love so much to the fullest of it's potential. > IMHO the best way would be to collect original stuff, so all money goes > to the artists. On the other hand, how much are MP3's worth? The original stuff of all these rare tracks will probably come onto your path as a second hand puchase, which means the money already went the artists way. If the track is really rare, you'll pay a lot more then you'ld have paid for it when it was released (but none of that extra money goes to the artists (in most if not all cases)). So the only way for them to make some money on the deal is to re-release these tracks, which would be a sort of charity to the faithfull fans because it'll probably not be marketable enough. On top of that, there are too many tracks to re-release. We'ld still be missing out on a lot of good music. My conclusive words would be: MP3 In high quality makes life a bit more beautifull. Yello MP3's in high quality create eargasms. Groeten, Olaf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:45:00 +0000 From: "Minstrel Arts" Subject: Re: (yello) new files coming > I have Jetzt und Alles songs already done. Anyone want them? :-) > I have few first songs of the album. I remember one of them is not > by Yello but it is quite good anyway (and has been on Dieter's movie). Which one is it? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:49:02 +0100 From: Bekaert.T@daikin.be Subject: (yello) Movie People on this list are talking about Dieter's movie. Does this mean it has already been released? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:56:45 +0000 From: "Minstrel Arts" Subject: Re: (yello) ???????? > Can Those Not Well With the Fact That Quite a Few on the List Have a Similar > Interest in Audio in General, Explain to Us Why the Quantity of Audio-Email > Under the List Hurt AnyThing??? > > Just Curious?? Not Pickin!! Just Real Curious WHY is is Such an Issue?? If > it Wasn't for the List, the Things These People have to Share About Audio > Would Be VERY Missed By MySelf as Well as Others I Would Suppose?? If I am > the Only One Who Feels This Way, I Will Stick to Yello and Crawl Back Into > My NON-Rare Owning Hole. I agree I would have missed out on some interesting information. The fact that I haven't been participating in the conversation on audio, doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it, cause I did (partly). And as I more or less explained already (or at least intended to), a messages relation to Yello does not stand or fall with the usage of the keyword Yello in it for as far as I am concerned. Groeten, Olaf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:44:01 +0200 From: Juhana K Kouhia Subject: Re: (yello) Movie >From: Bekaert.T@daikin.be > >People on this list are talking about Dieter's movie. >Does this mean it has already been released? YEEESSSSS!!!!! Yahooo... No, just kidding. We were talking about Dieter's first movie Jetzt und Alles back from 1981 and its soundtrack album. See discography. Yours, Juhana # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:41:11 +0200 From: Juhana K Kouhia Subject: Re: (yello) new files coming >From: "Minstrel Arts" > >> I have Jetzt und Alles songs already done. Anyone want them? :-) >> I have few first songs of the album. I remember one of them is not >> by Yello but it is quite good anyway (and has been on Dieter's movie). > >Which one is it? All of them are in Dieter's movie. Some are by Yello, some are not. 3:11 Joy Ryder: Sehnsucht nach Allem [mus: Dieter] 4:00 Richy Muller and Yello: There Is No Reason 3:12 Joy Ryder: Princess Lala [mus/lyr: Dieter] They are in jua-* files. What Richy Muller was doing in "There is no Reason"? Juhana # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 19:03:44 +0200 From: Juhana K Kouhia Subject: (yello) Web page for MP3 FTP available I wrote a simple html index for the mp3 site; specially for "Rare Yello Uploads" directory. You can find it from there by name "MP3INDEX.HTM" (or take instead the MP3INDEX-NEW.HTM if it is still there --- I made a mistage in uploading). Use it by going to that file. If you download it, it won't work correctly. Please let me know if there are problems. Well, I still forgot to put a notice on that I used Jonas' lists as source material. Yours, Juhana # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 14:56:57 EST From: FGriego@aol.com Subject: (yello) Spreading the Gospel I too have a chance to reach a broader audience with Yello's music. In the next few weeks I will collaborate with my brother on a video project that needs appropriate music put to it. You see, he is a military free fall instructor and each class that goes through his school receives a tape of their proceedings upon completion. He is now in charge of this project and follows each classes movements with one of those helmet mounted cameras. Previous atttempts at this have used music where the lyrics pertain to the action: "I believe I can fly..." and so on. If there are any Yello songs that conjure images of such please let me know. It has changed the way I listen and may do the same for you. The intro in my mind uses the PU song that has lyrics something like , "Let's go, let's go, let's go...." (as divers exit the aircraft). Any assistance would be appreciated. All the Best, Fred G # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 14:22:49 -0700 (MST) From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (yello) What NO AudioPhile Talk?? > Besides What Deos This Talk Really Hurt?? Yello-Citizens Discuss > Stuff in General Works for Me!!! What is the Sysops View on the Matter??? The "sysop's" view on the matter is that a) occasional topic drift away from Yello is okay; b) extended non-Yello discussions are not welcome; and c) your "cute" capitalization style is highly tiresome. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 17:02:49 -0600 From: "Shane of SAMCO" Subject: (yello) Ahhh I See... >>>>My conclusive words would be: >>>>MP3 In high quality makes life a bit more beautifull. >>>>Yello MP3's in high quality create eargasms. Ahhhh I Get it. So That's What Happens When I Listen to Yello!!! Always Wondered What to Call That Funny Sensation in My Ear After "The Blender Song" or "Jungle Bill". Thanks!!!! Shane of Audio\FTP\CAPITALIZATION # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 17:12:24 -0600 From: "Shane of SAMCO" Subject: (yello) Yeah The List Has Been Alot More Interesting to Receive from Since the the Addition of the FTP-Site, and Along with It the Audio Quality Talks. I Think I Had Mentioned Before About the "IT WILL PASS" Pheonomenon. Meaning, the Site Just Opened, and Their are Initial Issues That Will Be Discussed. Quality\Source\Opinions About Audio Just Kinda Happen. They are Not Being Pushed. Sorry To Those That Feel That They HAve Been Subjected To These Talks. They Have and Will Pass.................... PLEASE Don't Be Surprised if the Talks Pop-Up Again Though. With New Yello List Members, They are Gonna Ask the Same Questions. They are NOT Gonna Know Who to Ask Directly, so (God-Damn-Them) They are Gonna Post an Audio\Quality Question on the List. And We Will Respond to Them Probably Back Onto the List. Assuming the Question is Good, and Should Be Heard By More Then One Person. Shane of FTP\AUDIO\CAPITALIZATON # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ End of yello-digest V2 #25 **************************