From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #942 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Thursday, May 18 2000 Volume 02 : Number 942 In this issue: - Kaoru Abe Kaoru Abe (readable) Re: Coitus Interruptus Re: Coitus Interruptus Re: Coitus Interruptus one nite Re: one nite Re: Masada Box, & sound engineers Re: Masada Box, & sound engineers Re: Masada Box, & sound engineers Re: Klezmer recommendations needed re: webern box set re: masada box set (our hopes...) Re: Odp: varèse Re: scores Masada box -- no thanks Re: masada box set (our hopes...) Re: masada box set (our hopes...) RE: masada box set (our hopes...) RE: Konitz recommendations RE: Konitz recommendations Re: Morricone Brotzmann Tentet in NYC bud & don ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 18:48:22 -0400 From: "Dann-Brown" Subject: Kaoru Abe This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BFC030.7A2B8960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know of any Kaoru Abe discography, either in print or on a = web page? - ------- Dann-Brown np: They Might Be Giants - "She's Actual Size" - APOLLO 18 =20 "||||| ||||||| ||| || |||||| ||||| ||||||| |||| |||| || ||| |||| ||||||| = |||||!" -Woodstock - ------- - ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BFC030.7A2B8960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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- ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BFC030.7A2B8960-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 18:53:57 -0400 From: "Dann-Brown" Subject: Kaoru Abe (readable) Apologies for those who couldn't read that last one, accidentally sent it in rich text. Does anyone know of any Kaoru Abe discography, either in print or on a web page? - ------- Dann-Brown np: They Might Be Giants - "She's Actual Size", APOLLO 18 "||||| ||||||| ||| || |||||| ||||| ||||||| |||| |||| || ||| |||| ||||||| |||||!" -Woodstock - ------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 20:07:55 EDT From: Nudeants@aol.com Subject: Re: Coitus Interruptus In a message dated 5/17/00 6:16:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, marcing@mospan.pl writes: << The old sony recordings? Anybody knows anything about the new 'complete webern - boulez 2000' box? >> The set will be 6 CD's. Of course, he did the old Sony box set as well. I guess there are a bunch of recently unearthed things on the new set, not to mention brand new digitally recorded performances. Boulez also will have a new piece released soon, supposedly in September or something like that. Its for some combination of pianos and harps, possibly with some sort of electronic modification. matt mitchell - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 20:17:41 -0400 From: Rich Williams Subject: Re: Coitus Interruptus > > What past releases are interrupting your new releases this week? L'enemble Raye -Quelques Pieces Detaches (Charming 80's french chamber rock) Ornette - Beauty is A Rare thing (This never leaves my CD changer it seems) and I dont know if this qualifies since its new on CD,but..... Mike Mantlers Movies and More Movies (Listening to these for the first time in many years, I'm struck by how well it holds up, This stuff could give fusion a good name again) RW - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 17:47:54 -0700 From: Reuben Radding Subject: Re: Coitus Interruptus >> > What past releases are interrupting your new releases this week? > For me, it's the three J's: Jimmy Giuffre 3 - Thesis Jack DeJohnette Special Edition (w/ Blythe and Rivers) Jimmy Martin box set (on Bear Family) - ------------------------- Reuben Radding rrad@drizzle.com - -------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 21:19:38 EDT From: CuneiWay@aol.com Subject: one nite Hello I will find myself with ONE night free in NYC on Sat. 5/20. I've already checked out the Knitting Factory's page. Does Tonic have a site? Couldn't find it. I *do* know about Elliott Sharp's gig. Any other shows on THIS Saturday that might be recommended? Thanks! Steve F. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 21:24:08 EDT From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: one nite In a message dated 5/17/00 9:21:49 PM, CuneiWay@aol.com writes: << Does Tonic have a site? >> www.tonic107.com Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 22:12:00 -0400 From: thehodgsons Subject: Re: Masada Box, & sound engineers >> Does anyone else wish they'd skip the studio box and put out a massive live box, maybe with some other configurations (a la Bar Kokhba, Circle Maker, etc etc.) along with the quartet? << I'd like to see them release some of the Electric Masada stuff. That is without a doubt my favorite lineup of Masada. No matter how much I enjoy the quartet with Dave Douglas, Joey Baron & Greg Cohen I cannot get enough of the group with Marc Ribot, Kato Hideki, Ben Perowsky. I think they were one of the very first Masada lineups and one of the best. Anybody else with me on this one? Dwayne - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 22:11:55 -0400 From: thehodgsons Subject: Re: Masada Box, & sound engineers >> Does anyone else wish they'd skip the studio box and put out a massive live box, maybe with some other configurations (a la Bar Kokhba, Circle Maker, etc etc.) along with the quartet? << I'd like to see them release some of the Electric Masada stuff. That is without a doubt my favorite lineup of Masada. No matter how much I enjoy the quartet with Dave Douglas, Joey Baron & Greg Cohen I cannot get enough of the group with Marc Ribot, Kato Hideki, Ben Perowsky. I think they were one of the very first Masada lineups and one of the best. Anybody else with me on this one? Dwayne - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 19:31:26 -0700 From: Reuben Radding Subject: Re: Masada Box, & sound engineers At 10:11 PM 5/17/00 -0400, thehodgsons wrote: >I'd like to see them release some of the Electric Masada stuff. That is >without a doubt my favorite lineup of Masada. No matter how much I >enjoy the quartet with Dave Douglas, Joey Baron & Greg Cohen I cannot >get enough of the group with Marc Ribot, Kato Hideki, Ben Perowsky. I >think they were one of the very first Masada lineups and one of the >best. Frankly, my favorite electric Masada lineup was the one with Medeski, Wollesen, Ribot and Zorn. Similar but different was one with Medeski, Martin, Wood, Ribot and Zorn. Killer stuff. - -RR - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 21:44:47 -0500 From: howcome@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Klezmer recommendations needed At 11:38 AM 05/16/2000 +0200, you wrote:

Neil H. Enet wrote:

I'm in need of some good
recommendations for Klezmer music.

- Wild Crazy Dissonant Klezmer

I'm not big on Klezmer really but the CDs on Tzadik by the New Klezmer
Trio (Melt Zonk Rewire and Masks and Faces) are great. period. Some of
my favorite music of all time and the best place, imo, to hear Ben Goldberg.
If Masada is Klezmer/Ornette Coleman than NK3 is Klezmer/Jimmy Giuffre
Trio. It is music that can be very intense and edgy which has kind of been
lost, I think, in Goldberg's recent releases. I was recently surprised to find
out that they had got back together and have a new CD coming out on Tzadik
called Short for Something. James - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:05:41 +0200 From: patRice Subject: re: webern box set Nudeants@aol.com wrote: > > << The old sony recordings? Anybody knows anything about the new 'complete > webern - boulez 2000' box? > >> > The set will be 6 CD's. Of course, he did the old Sony box set as well. I > guess there are a bunch of recently unearthed things on the new set, not to > mention brand new digitally recorded performances. hi matt! did you hear any rumours or anything concerning recently unearthed pieces? the existence of such would very much surprise me. maybe they included a few more re-arrangements / orchestrations of other compositions webern did? patRice - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:05:30 +0200 From: patRice Subject: re: masada box set (our hopes...) Reuben Radding wrote: > > > Frankly, my favorite electric Masada lineup was the one with Medeski, > Wollesen, Ribot and Zorn. Similar but different was one with Medeski, > Martin, Wood, Ribot and Zorn. Killer stuff. > i would also much rather have a live box set than "the complete studio recordings". (since i already have all the other releases...) and yes, yes, yes: it would absolutely have to have stuff of the above mentioned line-ups on it! (especially the one feat. ribot. can't remember which combination i witnessed in concert - it was one feat. ribot -, but i did have multiple eargasms.) would it maybe help if each and everyone of us wrote to tzadik and beg them for a live box set??? what do you think? patRice - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:05:54 +0200 From: patRice Subject: Re: Odp: varèse Marcin Gokieli wrote: >=20 > patRice wrote: > > edgar var=E8se: the complete works (riccardo chailly) >=20 > enough: i'll buy it ;-) >=20 good boy... ;-)=20 you wont regret it, i'm sure! > > po=E8me =E9lectronique is featured, too; transferred from the origina= l > > master. >=20 > what is that piece, btw? from the booklet: using tape alone, this was played through more than 400 loudspeakers inside the philips pavilion designed by le corbusier (as far as i, patRice, remember, iannis xenakis was also heavily involved with this pavilion) for the 1958 brussels world fair. var=E8se worked ... laboratoris ... to produce the montage of unmodified sounds: machine noises, bells, piano, percussion and pure electronic sounds. ... let me say this: it sounds sort of weird, but is very enjoyable! i'm still trying to set-up my 400 loudspeakers-stereo, but well... ;-) patRice - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 06:53:20 -0400 From: stephen drury Subject: Re: scores At 11:39 AM 5/17/00 -0600, you wrote: > >Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 11:15:15 +0200 >From: "Ari" >Subject: scores > >Does anybody knows if some of Zorn's scores (f.i. pieces like Carny or the >Masada stuff) are published for sale and where I can find them? > Carl Fischer in New York is publishing Zorn's music. Dont know about Masada, but written-out music for so-called classical players is all there. - --steve http://www.stephendrury.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 07:43:32 -0400 From: Glenn_Lea@avid.com Subject: Masada box -- no thanks Kristopher S. Handley I, too, await the Masada box with great longing. Though I do find it cheesy that they'd reissue all the discs again so soon after their first pressings, especially since DIW is going strong and all the originals are in print. But there's much to be said for commodity fetishism. So what would be the point here? But would I rebuy the whole set just to have The Commodity? I'd much rather buy $150 worth of something new. Now, if Tzadik or DIW wants to sell me a nice Official Box with to hold my set of Masadas and tosses in a booklet or CD of outtakes, that would be cool. I'd buy that. But rebuy the whole set at a domestic price when I've already spent about $20 bucks each already? No way. BTW, I'm into Commodities and Boxes as much as the next guy (I got Cecil in Berlin, after all) This one just doesn't seem worth it, for just the reasons you give. Glenn - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 08:29:49 -0400 From: thehodgsons Subject: Re: masada box set (our hopes...) > would it maybe help if each and everyone of us wrote to tzadik and beg > them for a live box set??? what do you think? It may be worth a try. I know several people who would be very interested in a boxed set of live Masada. Almost every Masada fan, it seems, already has all of the studio recordings and I think it would be very silly to have them re-issued domestically. Would they really listen to us though??? How would they respond the bombardment of emails requesting a set like this. Dwayne - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 22:52:46 +1000 From: "Julian" Subject: Re: masada box set (our hopes...) The Masada live boxed set idea seems to be becoming redundant now anyway, with the series of Tzadik live albums coming out. Does anyone know how many of these are planned? I'd definitely be into the collection of alternate line-ups though... > It may be worth a try. I know several people who would be very > interested in a boxed set of live Masada. Almost every Masada fan, it > seems, already has all of the studio recordings and I think it would be > very silly to have them re-issued domestically. - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 09:04:35 -0400 From: "Neil H. Enet" Subject: RE: masada box set (our hopes...) pat Rice wrote: would it maybe help if each and everyone of us wrote to tzadik and beg them for a live box set??? what do you think? - ---------------------- Count me in, being a new Masada fan and owning only the three live albums on TZADIK, I'd be glad to see a Masada Boxset, including the studio albums (i don't own them, so), the other lineups or just other live albums. I do think that it'll be difficult for TZADIK to release them since I understand DIW are having no real problems with people buying them, but maybe we'll see a 10 year anniversary boxset in 2004 (the first Masada album was released on 1994, I think) released through TZADIK, who know? But like I said, coutn me in, I'll write to TZADIK, let's hope everyone else joins in. Neil H. Enet - ------------ - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 10:31:22 -0500 From: "John Thomas" Subject: RE: Konitz recommendations Gabriel writes: >Just one question: Lee Konitz is playing in Argentina next month and I = >want to know your insight on his music, I've loved the few things I've = >heard, but I would like some advice before I ruin my economy a little = >bit more. Some of my favorite Konitz discs are as follows, maybe not all for the new listener mind you (the solo discs), but great albums imo that I return to again and again: _Lee Konitz with Warne Marsh_ (Atlantic) Great group outing, sounding quite sublime with Marsh on this _Motion_ (Verve) Intense trio set with Elvin Jones _Live In Toronto 1952_ (Jazz Records) Tristano group with Marsh as well _Lone-Lee_ (Steeplechase) _Unaccompanied Live in Yokohama_ (PSF) 2 great, great solo sets, very searching and lovely to hear, if just for the sheer *sound* of Konitz's alto saxophone playing Check out the great Konitz discography at: www2.pcom.net/sminer/Sessions.html John - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:20:58 CDT From: "Kristopher S. Handley" Subject: RE: Konitz recommendations Thanks, John, for the link to the Konitz sessionography---it's really outstanding. However, I didn't feel like wading through it to find one session I've only heard rumors about, which is (I think) a trio or quartet, with Lee playing a 45+ minute version of _one standard_ (can't remember which one. Does anyone here have any idea what this is? Is it worth checking out? - -----s ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 12:32:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Gavin Dunne Subject: Re: Morricone I think the reason Morricone is so respected is because he writes stuff on the spot that is brilliant. He improvises to the mood necessary....when he wrote the soundtrack for Once Upon aTime in Amercia, the director, I can't think of his name - oh yeah Leone, used to describe the mood down to a T, and Morricone would compose something on the spot to fit the mood. I think this kind of thing would be an experimental trait, but he just did it with different music Gav - --- "& c." wrote: > I don't quite understand the connection between > experimental music (Zorn, > mr. bungle, etc) and the music of Ennio Morricone. > Why not any other film > composers (ie Bernard Herrmann or Max Steiner)? > What is it about his music > that lends it self to or attracts experimental > artist? > > Zach > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com > > > - > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 16:28:35 EDT From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Brotzmann Tentet in NYC so, it looks like the Brotzmann Tentet is opening for Sonic Youth (the quintet version with Jim O'Rourke on bass) in NYC at the Hammerstein Ballroom on June 17th. I'm not sure of the personnel, but I di hear at one point that Vandermark was using some of his MacArthur money to set up a tour with the same personnel who played that superb show at Victo last year. Other Music has tix for sale, but not too many left, so act fast, since I think it's Sonic Youth's only show as a headliner on this tour (they open for Pearl Jam at MSG later in the summer, I believe). tix are $21 apiece. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 17:00:20 -0400 From: "Bob Kowalski" Subject: bud & don Any Zornsters familiar w/ a duo album by Bud Powell and Don Byas? It may = be "Tribute to Cannonball" but I'm not sure. I'm reading the novel The = Archivist (wonderful!) and the description of the music has me searching = for the recording. Any recommendations? Still in print? Available = domestically (cd now says its a german import)? happy listening bob - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V2 #942 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/zorn-list/archive. These are organized by date. Problems? 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