ADAM GOD THEORY

Once Doctrine, Now Theory, Still Advanced Thinking

To understand Brigham Young's theology, one must learn to think like Brigham Young.

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Introduction



In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted [prepared] a plan to create the world and people it. When we begin to learn this way, we begin to learn the only true God, and what kind of a being we have got to worship. Having a knowledge of God, we begin to know how to approach Him, and how to ask so as to receive an answer. When we understand the character of God, and know how to come to Him, he begins to unfold the heavens to us, and to tell us all about it. When we are ready to come to him, he is ready to come to us.
~Joseph Smith Jr. King Follett Discourse Sunday April 7, 1844 Conference



                   Words of Joseph Smith 
The contemporary accounts of the Nauvoo discourses of the Prophet Joseph 
                   Compiled and edited
                           by 
             Andrew F. Ehat and Lyndon W.  Cook 
                           With
                a Foreword by Truman G.  Madsen 
                  Grandin Book Company 1991 

9 March 1841 (Tuesday). take from Mclntire Minute Book (English clarified)

  The Son had a tabernacle and so had the Father, but the
  the Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit without tabernacle.
  The Great God has a name by which He will be called which is Ahman 
- also in asking have a reference to a personage like Adam, for God 
  made Adam just in His own image.
 Now  this is a key for you to know how to ask and obtain.   
     -- Words of Joseph Smith pg. 64  

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PREFACE TO THE ELEMENTS OF THE "CONTROVERSY"

How will the SOONERS teach the LATERS? What is the responsibility of the LATERS to be able to work with the SOONERS? This brings up the following question and answer:

Let the SOONERS be patient with the LATERS and let the LATERS be diligent.

FURTHER, WHAT IF THE LEADERS WHO HAVE DISAGREED WITH BRIGHAM YOUNG'S

THE ADAM GOD THEORY SHOULD NOT BE A CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECT, IF YOUR THINKING IS SELF-TRAINED PROPERLY?

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THE BASIS OF THE CONTROVERSY:

NOTIFICATION FOR THOSE WHO SEE CONTROVERSY:

CONTROVERSY IS NECESSARY TO MATURE AND NURTURE YOUR PERSONAL THINKING SYSTEM


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The 1852 Sermons of Brigham Young as printed in the Journal of Discourses Volume 1 Pages 46 to 53.



          Journal of Discourses / Journal of Discourses, Volume 1 / Brigham
          Young, April 9, 1852
                            Brigham Young, April 9, 1852
                SELF-GOVERNMENT--MYSTERIES--RECREATION AND AMUSEMENT,
           NOT IN THEMSELVES SINFUL--TITHING--ADAM, OUR FATHER AND OUR GOD
          A sermon delivered by President Brigham Young, in the Tabernacle,
                        Great Salt Lake City, April 9, 1852.
          Page 46
          It is my intention to preach several discourses this evening, but
          how many I do not know.
            
          I will in the first place bear testimony to the truth of many
          remarks made by brother Hunter, and especially his exhortation to
          the Seventies and Elders, and those men who wish to go on
          missions. I wish also to urge the necessity of your proceeding on
          your missions immediately, and of going to the place of your
          destination full of the Holy Ghost, preaching righteousness to
          the people; and while you do this, live up to the principles you
          preach, that you may teach also by your example, as well as by
          precept. Go, ye Elders, and now consider yourselves from this
          time forth missionaries. If the Gospel is in you like a flaming
          fire, to be poured upon the people, gather your neighbors
          together, and give your brethren an invitation to your house, and
          set before them the duties of man; and preach, if you can speak
          but for five minutes, occupying that time to the best advantage.
          Continue to preach, study, and learn, by faith and prayer, until
          your minds and mouths are opened, and you understand most
          perfectly the love of Christ.
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          It is not uncommon for Elders to say, "If I could have a mission,
          and be sent among strangers, I could speak to them, because they
          have not been instructed in the way of life and salvation: I
          could lay before them the principles of the Gospel, which have
          been taught to me, without that difference of feeling, and fear,
          which I experience while speaking to my brethren." It is very
          true that the first principles of the Gospel taught by the Elders
          of this Church are easy to be understood, compared with what it
          is to preach them to our families, or to our neighborhood, and to
          govern and control ourselves by the principles of righteousness
          which the Gospel inculcates. Again, to gather the Saints, to
          preach the Gospel to the world, and convince them of the truth,
          are much easier tasks than to convince men that you can master
          yourself, and practise the moral principles inculcated by your
          religion. That is a small portion of the duty required of you in
          order to obtain crowns of glory, immortality, and eternal lives.
          I will here remark, that it is natural for the people to desire
          to know a great deal of the MYSTERIES; this, however, is not
          universally the case, though it is so with a great many of the
          Elders of Israel. I do not suppose it will apply to those who
          compose this congregation; your object in being here this evening
          is not to hear some great mystery of the Kingdom, which you never
          understood before. The greatest mystery a man ever learned, is to
          know how to control the human mind, and bring every faculty and
          power of the same in subjection to Jesus Christ; this is the
          greatest mystery we have to learn while in these tabernacles of
          clay. It is more necessary for the Elders to learn and practise
          upon this lesson in the midst of the Saints at head quarters than
          in the world; for their facilities for learning are much greater,
          and I will tell you wherein. Let a Bishop, a High Priest, a
          President of any Stake or Quorum, any who are Elders in Israel,
          or any individual Saint from the first to the last of them, fall
          into error, and it is at once made manifest; he cannot pursue
          that course any further, for he is where lie can learn his
          duties, and know how to walk straight in the paths of
          righteousness. Here is the place for you to teach great mysteries
          to your brethren, because here are those who can correct you.
          This fault the Elders of Israel do not fall into in this
          Tabernacle, although they may in private houses and
          neighborhoods. When a man is capable of correcting you, and of
          giving you light, and true doctrine, do not get up an
          altercation, but submit to be taught like little children, and
          strive with all your might to understand. The privileges of those
          who dwell here are greater than the privileges of those who are
          abroad. When your duties call you into foreign lands, and you
          there exhaust your stock of knowledge and wisdom, and you are not
          in possession of the keys to obtain that instruction which you
          desire, it is because you are far from the right fountain--far
          from the body, where all the members are in lively
          operation--where the eye can see, the ear hear, the nose smell,
          and the mouth speak, and so forth. When your face is turned from
          the body, let mysteries alone, for this is the only place for you
          to be corrected if wrong. Preach the simple, unadorned truth;
          work out your salvation with diligence, and do that which will
          guarantee you a warranted deed, an undeniable title to eternal
          lives.
            
          If you feel prayer in you, pray; and if you feel the spirit of
          preaching in you, preach; call in your brethren, and read the
          Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Book of Covenants, and the other
          revelations of God to them; and talk over the things contained in
          those books, and deal them out to your brethren and neighbors;
          pray with them, and teach them how to control themselves; and let
          your teachings be sustained by your own example. Teach your
          families how to control themselves; teach them good and wholesome
          doctrine, and practise the same in your own lives. This is the
          place for you to become polished shafts in the quiver of the
          Almighty. This will answer for one sermon.
            
          I feel much inclined to talk to the brethren: I have not had the
          privilege of preaching much for some time, because of the
          inconvenience of our former meeting place. Now, as we have a
          good, convenient place to meet in, and my health will serve me, I
          expect to improve the time. I love to preach at home with the
          Saints. I love to meet with them, and look up on their happy
          countenances, lit up with the joys of eternity. In short. I love
          the society of all good men, and to preach salvation to them.
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          You may consider what I shall now lay before you a small matter;
          but I think it of some importance. When the Elders of Israel
          leave this place, and go forth among the wicked, it is not their
          privilege to mingle with them in any of their worldly exercises;
          for if they do, the devil will obtain an advantage over them, and
          succeed in drawing them away from the path of their duty. For
          instance--suppose you and I, with many more of the brethren, meet
          together in a convenient place in the Valley, and dance to the
          sweet strains of the violin; we could do so with a perfect good
          will: but if we should be called to England, and there have an
          invitation to join with the wicked in their pastimes and
          recreations, and we in our feelings bow down to this, and suffer
          our spirits to be subject to their commandments, we suffer
          ourselves to be ruled over by them, and at once become their
          servants. While I am here, I am in the midst of the Priesthood of
          heaven, and in the centre of the kingdom of God. We are before
          the Lord, where every hand I shake is the hand of a Saint, and
          every face I see, when I look upon the assembled thousands, is
          the countenance of a Saint. I am the controller and master of
          affairs here, under Heaven's direction; though there are those
          who do not believe this. I invite those who are not subject to me
          as their President, not to contaminate my friends; for were I and
          my friends to become subject to those who object to us, we are
          then on the ground of the devil, and subject ourselves to him
          they serve.
            
          Never suffer yourselves to mingle in any of those recreations
          that tend to sin and iniquity, while you are away from the body
          of the Church, where you cannot so fully control yourselves. Let
          the Elders who are going out from this place carry this
          instruction with them into the other portions of the earth.
          Whatever a man does, let him do it in the name of the Lord--let
          him work in the name of the Lord, let all his acts through life
          be in the name of the Lord; and if he wants light and knowledge,
          let him ask in that name.
            
          You are well aware that the wickedness of the world, or the
          apostacy of the Church, is so great, that those who now profess
          religion cannot enjoy their own natural privileges in the world.
          In many places their folly and superstition are so great that
          they would consider they had committed the sin of blasphemy if
          they happened to hear a violin. The whole world could not hire a
          good, honest, sound Presbyterian, of the old fashion and cut, to
          look into a room where a company of young men and women were
          dancing, lest they should sin against the Holy Ghost. This
          over-righteous notion is imbibed by the generality of professors
          of religion, but it is because they themselves have made it a
          sin. Let us look at the root of the matter. In the first place,
          some wise being organized my system, and gave me my capacity, put
          into my heart and brain something that delights, charms, and
          fills me with rapture at the sound of sweet music. I did not put
          it there; it was some other being. As one of the modern writers
          has said, "Music hath charms to soothe the savage breast." It has
          been proved that sweet music will actually tame the most
          malicious and venomous beasts, even when they have been stirred
          up to violent wrath, and make them docile and harmless as lambs.
          Who gave the lower animals a love for those sweet sounds, which
          with magic power fill the air with harmony, and cheer and comfort
          the hearts of men and so wonderfully affect the brute creation?
          It was the Lord, our heavenly Father, who gave the capacity to
          enjoy these sounds, and which we ought to do in His name, and to
          His glory. But the greater portion of the sectarian world
          consider it sacrilege to give way to any such pleasure as even to
          listen to sweet music, much more to dance to its delightful
          strains. This is another short sermon.
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          I wish now to say a few words to the brethren upon the subject of
          tithing. It is well known to the majority of this Conference what
          transpired, last Conference, upon the stand in the old Bowery. At
          that Conference I had good cause to find fault with the Bishops,
          and I took the liberty to brush them down a little. From that day
          to this there has been more accomplished by our Bishops in the
          short space of seven months, than was accomplished by them for
          the space of years previously. This gives me great satisfaction.
          The Bishops have done as well as men could do: their conduct in
          fulfilling the duties of their calling has truly been
          praiseworthy, and I feel to bless them, and pray the Lord to
          bless them all the day long, for they have done first rate. When
          we consider the ignorance of the world, their unbelief in God,
          and realize that the vail of the covering is over the face of all
          nations, and remember the ignorance we were once in ourselves,
          having to commence like babes at the rudiments of learning,
          knowing also how faltering men are in their faith, and then look
          at what this people have accomplished, we are led to exclaim, "It
          is marvellous in our eyes!" Were I to say, "Elders of Israel, you
          that feel to put your all upon the altar, rise upon your feet,"
          who would be left? [All present rose up simultaneously.] Where is
          there another people upon the earth who would have done this? I
          have no tithing, but all--all I have is the Lord's. You know the
          word sacrifice: as brother Banks said to-day, it is a mere
          burlesque--a nonsensical term. No man ever heard me say I had
          made a sacrifice. I possess nothing but what my heavenly Father
          has been pleased to give me, or, in other words, He has loaned it
          to me while I remain here in this mortal flesh.
            
          Is it not marvellous, considering the weakness of man, to see the
          willingness of this whole people to die if necessary for the
          truth? How do you suppose it makes me feel? Though I may
          sometimes chastise my brethren, and speak to them in the language
          of reproof, there is not a father who feels more tenderly towards
          his offspring, and loves them better than I love this people; and
          my Father in Heaven loves them; my heart yearns over them with
          all the emotions of tenderness, so that I could weep like a
          child; but I am careful to keep my tears to myself. If you do
          wrong, it grieves my heart, and it also grieves the heart of my
          heavenly Father. I feel continually to urge my brethren to cease
          from all evil, and learn to do well.
            
          The fulness of the heavens and the earth is the Lord's--the gold
          and the silver, the wheat, the fine flour, and the cattle upon a
          thousand hills; and when we fully understand His works, we shall
          know that He is in all the earth, and fulfills His will among the
          children of men, exalting and debasing them according to His
          pleasure; for the systems, creeds, thrones, and kingdoms of the
          world are all under His control. "Shall there be evil in a city,
          and the Lord hath not done it"--or that He doth not control? The
          Lord controls the whole; and in the end, you will find He has
          regulated all things right, for all will be consummated to His
          glory.
            
          The children of men are made as independent in their sphere as
          the Lord is in His, to prove themselves, pursue which path they
          please, and choose the evil or the good. For those who love the
          Lord, and do His will, all is right, and they shall be crowned,
          but those who hate His ways shall be damned, for they choose to
          be damned.
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          As I was meditating on the philosophy of the day, it occurred to
          my mind how visible it must appear to all eyes that the Lord does
          indeed work, that it is He who blesses this people; and yet it
          seems as though they cannot see His hand. The Lord fills the
          immensity of space. What saith the Psalmist? "Whither shall I go
          from thy Spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? If I
          ascent up into heaven, thou art there; if I make my bed in hell,
          behold thou art there; if I take the wings of the morning, and
          dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, even there shall thy
          hand lead me." I was trying to think of the place where God is
          not, but it is impossible, unless you can find empty space; and
          there I believe He is not. If you can find such a place, it will
          become useful for a hiding place to those who wish to hide
          themselves from the presence of the Lord, in the great day of
          accounts. I will close this sermon, as I intend to preach another
          before I present the subject I more particularly wish to speak
          upon.
            
          My next sermon will be to both Saint and sinner. One thing has
          remained a mystery in this kingdom up to this day. It is in
          regard to the character of the well-beloved Son of God, upon
          which subject the Elders of Israel have conflicting views. Our
          God and Father in heaven, is a being of tabernacle, or, in other
          words, He has a body, with parts the same as you and I have; and
          is capable of showing forth His works to organized beings, as,
          for instance, in the world in which we live, it is the result of
          the knowledge and infinite wisdom that dwell in His organized
          body. His son Jesus Christ has become a personage of tabernacle,
          and has a body like his father. The Holy Ghost is the Spirit of
          the Lord, and issues forth from Himself, and may properly be
          called God's minister to execute His will in immensity; being
          called to govern by His influence and power; but He is not a
          person of tabernacle as we are, and as our Father in Heaven and
          Jesus Christ are. The question has been, and is often, asked, who
          it was that begat the Son of the Virgin Mary. The infidel world
          have concluded that if what the Apostles wrote about his father
          and mother be true, and the present marriage discipline
          acknowledged by Christendom be correct, then Christians must
          believe that God is the father of an illegitimate son, in the
          person of Jesus Christ! The infidel fraternity teach that to
          their disciples. I will tell you how it is. Our Father in Heaven
          begat all the spirits that ever were, or ever will be, upon this
          earth; and they were born spirits in the eternal world. Then the
          Lord by His power and wisdom organized the mortal tabernacle of
          man. We were made first spiritual, and afterwards temporal.
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          Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint
          and sinner! When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he
          came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his
          wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is
          MICHAEL, the Archangel, the ANCIENT OF DAYS! about whom holy men
          have written and spoken--HE is our FATHER and our GOD, and the
          only God with whom WE have to do. Every man upon the earth,
          professing Christians or non-professing, must hear it, and will
          know it sooner or later. They came here, organized the raw
          material, and arranged in their order the herbs of the field, the
          trees, the apple, the peach, the plum, the pear, and every other
          fruit that is desirable and good for man; the seed was brought
          from another sphere, and planted in this earth. The thistle, and
          thorn, the brier, and the obnoxious weed did not appear until
          after the earth was cursed. When Adam and Eve had eaten of the
          forbidden fruit, their bodies became mortal from its effects, and
          therefore their offspring were mortal. When the Virgin Mary
          conceived the child Jesus, the Father had begotten him in his own
          likeness. He was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. And who is the
          Father? He is the first of the human family; and when he took a
          tabernacle, it was begotten by his Father in heaven, after the
          same manner as the tabernacles of Cain, Abel, and the rest of the
          sons and daughters of Adam and Eve; from the fruits of the earth,
          the first earthly tabernacles were originated by the Father, and
          so on in succession. I could tell you much more about this; but
          were I to tell you the whole truth, blasphemy would be nothing to
          it, in the estimation of the superstitious and over-righteous of
          mankind. However, I have told you the truth as far as I have
          gone. I have heard men preach upon the divinity of Christ, and
          exhaust all the wisdom they possessed. All Scripturalists, and
          approved theologians who were considered exemplary for piety and
          education, have undertaken to expound on this subject, in every
          obliged to conclude by exclaiming "great is the mystery of
          godliness," and tell nothing.
            
          It is true that the earth was organized by three distinct
          characters, namely, Eloheim, Yahovah, and Michael, these three
          forming a quorum, as in all heavenly bodies, and in organizing
          element, perfectly represented in the Deity, as Father, Son, and
          Holy Ghost.
            
          Again, they will try to tell how the divinity of Jesus is joined
          to his humanity, and exhaust all their mental faculties, and wind
          up with this profound language, as describing the soul of man,
          "it is an immaterial substance!" What a learned idea! Jesus, our
          elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same character
          that was in the garden of Eden, and who is our Father in Heaven.
          Now, let all who may hear these doctrines, pause before they make
          light of them, or treat them with indifference, for they will
          prove their salvation or damnation.
            
          I have given you a few leading items upon this subject, but a
          great deal more remains to be told. Now remember from this time
          forth, and forever, that Jesus Christ was not begotten by the
          Holy Ghost. I will repeat a little anecdote. I was in
          conversation with a certain learned professor upon this subject,
          when I replied, to this idea--"if the Son was begotten by the
          Holy Ghost, it would be very dangerous to baptize and confirm
          females, and give the Holy Ghost to them, lest he should beget
          children, to be palmed upon the Elders by the people, bringing
          the Elders into great difficulties."
            
          Treasure up these things in your hearts. In the Bible, you have
          read the things I have told you to-night; but you have not known
          what you did read. I have told you no more than you are
          conversant with; but what do the people in Christendom, with the
          Bible in their hands, know about this subject? Comparatively
          nothing.
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          I will now again take up the subject of tithing. The brethren
          have done well. They have been willing and obedient, no people
          could have been more so; for this I thank my Father in Heaven. I
          could not wish a people to work more kindly in the yoke of Jesus
          than this people do; the yoke grows more and more easy to them.
          It seems that every man will not only pay his tithing, but give
          all he has, if the Lord requires it: still I see wherein they may
          do better. I asked the people to day to assist to pay our Church
          liabilities. The offer of three or four yoke of oxen only, we do
          not want; but I will lay before you what we wish you to do. By
          the manifesto which has been read, you have learned the precise
          situation of the property of the Church. What has incurred this
          debt? Why does it exist in the shape in which it now appears? And
          wherein could we have obviated the difficulty, and done better? A
          fourth part of the money already paid out, did not come in upon
          tithing. This money we have had to borrow in order to keep the
          public works in progress. You may say, wherein could we have done
          better, for we have paid our tithing punctually? But has that
          brother, who sent $100 back to the East for merchandize, paid $10
          of it into the tithing office? Or did the brother who has sent
          $500 back, let us have $50? No; these have used it themselves,
          and thereby involved those who bear the responsibilities of the
          Trust. Again, those who have not possessed sufficient money to
          send back for merchandize, have been necessitated to pay out what
          they had. Thousands of dollars have been paid here for
          merchandize. Has one-tenth of all that money been paid into the
          tithing office? It has not. And where is the tithing that should
          have come in from England and California. Instead of tithing
          their money, they have used it for other purposes, and paid it in
          property, with which we could not pay our debts. This is wherein
          we have failed to liquidate our debts. The people go to these
          Gentile stores, on the Saturday, in crowds, to purchase goods. I
          think we shall not over-rate the amount, if we say that $500,000
          has been paid, in these valleys, to the merchants. But suppose
          they have received no more than $50,000 from this community,
          $5,000 of that money ought to have been first paid into the
          tithing office and we could have sent it to the States, and
          purchased goods ourselves for one-third or one-half less than we
          have to pay the merchants here. And $25,000 more should have come
          into the tithing office from the Church in the United States. The
          brethren in California have made no less than $100,000, the tenth
          of which is due this tithing office. For want of this money, we
          are brought into bondage; and we must now apply our faith and
          works to raise means to liquidate our indebtedness, which has
          accumulated by purchasing goods at high and extortionate prices.
          I find no fault with the merchants, for they came here to gather
          gold by the hundred weight.
            
          Now, brethren, and Bishops, look over this matter, and try to
          think what your feelings would be if you were laid under the same
          responsibility that I and my brethren have upon our shoulders. We
          are required to see the Gospel preached to the nations afar off,
          to build council houses and temples, to cope with the united
          wisdom and craft of legislative assemblies, and with the powers
          of darkness in high places; and then place yourselves in the
          circumstances we are now placed in! Besides all this, see the
          hundreds who come to us every day to be administered to in
          various ways: some want fruit, some sugar, others tea, and all
          want clothing, &c. Then step into our private rooms, where we
          commune with the people, and you will see and hear all this, and
          a great deal more. Instead of every man bringing his picayune, or
          his six pence, or his $5, &c., as tithing on the money in his
          possession, it is all used for something else, and the storehouse
          of the Lord is left empty. Suppose nothing had been put in there
          but what the people have put in, the workmen would have been
          naked. Walk into the storehouse, and examine for yourselves. To
          be sure there has been a little clothing put in lately; for
          instance, there was an old silk dress put in for $40, that had
          been lying for years rotting in the chest: this is a specimen of
          the rest. What are such things worth to our workmen? Why, nothing
          at all. We wish you to put in strong and substantial clothing.
          Good, strong, homemade stuffs make the most suitable clothing for
          those who are building up the public works.
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          Will you help us out of this thraldom, and have it credited to
          your future tithing? There is already a great deal more due than
          would liquidate all our debts, but we cannot command it now. Do
          you feel willing to put your shoulder to the wheel, and continue
          to roll it forward, and still continue, you that have faith to
          continue, to increase in faith? for the business of this kingdom
          will increase, and the responsibility also; the labor will and
          must grow, and continue to increase, until the kingdoms of this
          world become the kingdom of our God and His Christ. So much on
          tithing; you see where the failure is; it is in that point, and
          nowhere else.
            
          It is not for any man to think he is a cipher--that what he can
          do will not tell in this matter, and say, "They will get along
          well enough without me;" but it is every man's duty to lay it to
          heart, and help what he can with his earthly substance; though I
          wish you to understand distinctly that it is no commandment--you
          are left to act freely.
            
          Let all the sheep stay in the Valley; also the cows; for they
          will give milk and butter, and replenish the stock. But when we
          speak of the horses, mules, and oxen, let every man look up his
          spare stock of this description, and with them help to liquidate
          these debts. Stock will now pay debts. I will use my stock for
          this purpose, and my brethren will do the same, until we have
          enough. I do not enjoin this upon you, as you have already paid
          the tithing which is required of you; except in some instances in
          the money tithing. Had we received the money due to us, we should
          have had no debts; but this failure has been, and is now, in
          existence. I will take every kind of spare stock I have, except
          my cows and sheep, and wipe off these debts until they are
          cancelled; and now every man who will do the same, let him rise
          upon his feet. [The whole congregation of two thousand men rose
          up to a man.] Do you suppose we want to deprive you of your
          teams? It is not so, but we wished to know the state of your
          faith, so that when we are ready to call upon you, we can be sure
          our call will be responded to. I would not cripple any man, I
          would rather give him five yoke of oxen, than destroy his team,
          and you know it. [Some of the brethren in the stand, not
          believing their own eyes, that the whole congregation rose, it
          was tried over again, to satisfy them, when the congregation all
          rose again to a man.] Brother Hunter now knows what to do. Many
          of the brethren are killing their calves; don't do this; if you
          cannot raise them, it will be better to give them away to those
          who can.
            
          I bless you, and may the Lord bless you, in the name of Jesus
          Christ. Amen.

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Brigham Young, April 9, 1852

SELF-GOVERNMENT--MYSTERIES--RECREATION AND AMUSEMENT, NOT IN THEMSELVES SINFUL--TITHING--ADAM, OUR FATHER AND OUR GOD--TITHING

A sermon delivered by President Brigham Young, in the Tabernacle, Great Salt Lake City, April 9, 1852.


Entire Sermon Reformatted in Menorah Form (Link to: Tutorial on Menorah Pattern for those new to the Menorah Pattern)


(Note: Introductory Sermons with Imbedded Relevance)

It is my intention to preach several discourses this evening, but how many I do not know.

(First Sermon Reformatted in Menorah Form)

I will in the first place bear testimony to the truth of many remarks made by brother Hunter, and especially his exhortation to the Seventies and Elders, and those men who wish to go on missions. I wish also to urge the necessity of your proceeding on your missions immediately, and of going to the place of your destination full of the Holy Ghost, preaching righteousness to the people; and while you do this, live up to the principles you preach, that you may teach also by your example, as well as by precept. Go, ye Elders, and now consider yourselves from this time forth missionaries. If the Gospel is in you like a flaming fire, to be poured upon the people, gather your neighbors together, and give your brethren an invitation to your house, and set before them the duties of man; and preach, if you can speak but for five minutes, occupying that time to the best advantage. Continue to preach, study, and learn, by faith and prayer, until your minds and mouths are opened, and you understand most perfectly the love of Christ.

If you feel prayer in you, pray; and if you feel the spirit of preaching in you, preach; call in your brethren, and read the Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Book of Covenants, and the other revelations of God to them; and talk over the things contained in those books, and deal them out to your brethren and neighbors; pray with them, and teach them how to control themselves; and let your teachings be sustained by your own example. Teach your families how to control themselves; teach them good and wholesome doctrine, and practise the same in your own lives. This is the place for you to become polished shafts in the quiver of the Almighty. This will answer for one sermon.

It is not uncommon for Elders to say, "If I could have a mission, and be sent among strangers, I could speak to them, because they have not been instructed in the way of life and salvation: I could lay before them the principles of the Gospel, which have been taught to me, without that difference of feeling, and fear, which I experience while speaking to my brethren." It is very true that the first principles of the Gospel taught by the Elders of this Church are easy to be understood, compared with what it is to preach them to our families, or to our neighborhood, and to govern and control ourselves by the principles of righteousness which the Gospel inculcates. Again, to gather the Saints, to preach the Gospel to the world, and convince them of the truth, are much easier tasks than to convince men that you can master yourself, and practise the moral principles inculcated by your religion. That is a small portion of the duty required of you in order to obtain crowns of glory, immortality, and eternal lives.

Let a Bishop, a High Priest, a President of any Stake or Quorum, any who are Elders in Israel, or any individual Saint from the first to the last of them, fall into error, and it is at once made manifest; he cannot pursue that course any further, for he is where lie can learn his duties, and know how to walk straight in the paths of righteousness. Here is the place for you to teach great mysteries to your brethren, because here are those who can correct you. This fault the Elders of Israel do not fall into in this Tabernacle, although they may in private houses and neighborhoods. When a man is capable of correcting you, and of giving you light, and true doctrine, do not get up an altercation, but submit to be taught like little children, and strive with all your might to understand. The privileges of those who dwell here are greater than the privileges of those who are abroad. When your duties call you into foreign lands, and you there exhaust your stock of knowledge and wisdom, and you are not in possession of the keys to obtain that instruction which you desire, it is because you are far from the right fountain--far from the body, where all the members are in lively operation--where the eye can see, the ear hear, the nose smell, and the mouth speak, and so forth. When your face is turned from the body, let mysteries alone, for this is the only place for you to be corrected if wrong. Preach the simple, unadorned truth; work out your salvation with diligence, and do that which will guarantee you a warranted deed, an undeniable title to eternal lives.

✡  I will here remark, that it is natural for the people to desire to know a great deal of the MYSTERIES; this, however, is not universally the case, though it is so with a great many of the Elders of Israel. I do not suppose it will apply to those who compose this congregation; your object in being here this evening is not to hear some great mystery of the Kingdom, which you never understood before. The greatest mystery a man ever learned, is to know how to control the human mind, and bring every faculty and power of the same in subjection to Jesus Christ; this is the greatest mystery we have to learn while in these tabernacles of clay. It is more necessary for the Elders to learn and practise upon this lesson in the midst of the Saints at head quarters than in the world; for their facilities for learning are much greater, and I will tell you wherein.

(Second Sermon Reformatted in Menorah Form)

I feel much inclined to talk to the brethren: I have not had the privilege of preaching much for some time, because of the inconvenience of our former meeting place. Now, as we have a good, convenient place to meet in, and my health will serve me, I expect to improve the time. I love to preach at home with the Saints. I love to meet with them, and look up on their happy countenances, lit up with the joys of eternity. In short. I love the society of all good men, and to preach salvation to them.

You are well aware that the wickedness of the world, or the apostacy of the Church, is so great, that those who now profess religion cannot enjoy their own natural privileges in the world. In many places their folly and superstition are so great that they would consider they had committed the sin of blasphemy if they happened to hear a violin. The whole world could not hire a good, honest, sound Presbyterian, of the old fashion and cut, to look into a room where a company of young men and women were dancing, lest they should sin against the Holy Ghost. This over-righteous notion is imbibed by the generality of professors of religion, but it is because they themselves have made it a sin. Let us look at the root of the matter. In the first place, some wise being organized my system, and gave me my capacity, put into my heart and brain something that delights, charms, and fills me with rapture at the sound of sweet music. I did not put it there; it was some other being. As one of the modern writers has said, "Music hath charms to soothe the savage breast." It has been proved that sweet music will actually tame the most malicious and venomous beasts, even when they have been stirred up to violent wrath, and make them docile and harmless as lambs. Who gave the lower animals a love for those sweet sounds, which with magic power fill the air with harmony, and cheer and comfort the hearts of men and so wonderfully affect the brute creation? It was the Lord, our heavenly Father, who gave the capacity to enjoy these sounds, and which we ought to do in His name, and to His glory. But the greater portion of the sectarian world consider it sacrilege to give way to any such pleasure as even to listen to sweet music, much more to dance to its delightful strains. This is another short sermon.

You may consider what I shall now lay before you a small matter; but I think it of some importance. When the Elders of Israel leave this place, and go forth among the wicked, it is not their privilege to mingle with them in any of their worldly exercises; for if they do, the devil will obtain an advantage over them, and succeed in drawing them away from the path of their duty. For instance--suppose you and I, with many more of the brethren, meet together in a convenient place in the Valley, and dance to the sweet strains of the violin; we could do so with a perfect good will: but if we should be called to England, and there have an invitation to join with the wicked in their pastimes and recreations, and we in our feelings bow down to this, and suffer our spirits to be subject to their commandments, we suffer ourselves to be ruled over by them, and at once become their servants.

Never suffer yourselves to mingle in any of those recreations that tend to sin and iniquity, while you are away from the body of the Church, where you cannot so fully control yourselves. Let the Elders who are going out from this place carry this instruction with them into the other portions of the earth. Whatever a man does, let him do it in the name of the Lord--let him work in the name of the Lord, let all his acts through life be in the name of the Lord; and if he wants light and knowledge, let him ask in that name.

✡  While I am here, I am in the midst of the Priesthood of heaven, and in the centre of the kingdom of God. We are before the Lord, where every hand I shake is the hand of a Saint, and every face I see, when I look upon the assembled thousands, is the countenance of a Saint. I am the controller and master of affairs here, under Heaven's direction; though there are those who do not believe this. I invite those who are not subject to me as their President, not to contaminate my friends; for were I and my friends to become subject to those who object to us, we are then on the ground of the devil, and subject ourselves to him they serve.

I bless you, and may the Lord bless you, in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

(Third Sermon)

I wish now to say a few words to the brethren upon the subject of tithing. It is well known to the majority of this Conference what transpired, last Conference, upon the stand in the old Bowery. At that Conference I had good cause to find fault with the Bishops, and I took the liberty to brush them down a little. From that day to this there has been more accomplished by our Bishops in the short space of seven months, than was accomplished by them for the space of years previously. This gives me great satisfaction. The Bishops have done as well as men could do: their conduct in fulfilling the duties of their calling has truly been praiseworthy, and I feel to bless them, and pray the Lord to bless them all the day long, for they have done first rate. When we consider the ignorance of the world, their unbelief in God, and realize that the vail of the covering is over the face of all nations, and remember the ignorance we were once in ourselves, having to commence like babes at the rudiments of learning, knowing also how faltering men are in their faith, and then look at what this people have accomplished, we are led to exclaim, "It is marvellous in our eyes!" Were I to say, "Elders of Israel, you that feel to put your all upon the altar, rise upon your feet," who would be left? [All present rose up simultaneously.] Where is there another people upon the earth who would have done this? I have no tithing, but all--all I have is the Lord's. You know the word sacrifice: as brother Banks said to-day, it is a mere burlesque--a nonsensical term. No man ever heard me say I had made a sacrifice. I possess nothing but what my heavenly Father has been pleased to give me, or, in other words, He has loaned it to me while I remain here in this mortal flesh.

As I was meditating on the philosophy of the day, it occurred to my mind how visible it must appear to all eyes that the Lord does indeed work, that it is He who blesses this people; and yet it seems as though they cannot see His hand. The Lord fills the immensity of space. What saith the Psalmist? "Whither shall I go from thy Spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? If I ascent up into heaven, thou art there; if I make my bed in hell, behold thou art there; if I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, even there shall thy hand lead me." I was trying to think of the place where God is not, but it is impossible, unless you can find empty space; and there I believe He is not. If you can find such a place, it will become useful for a hiding place to those who wish to hide themselves from the presence of the Lord, in the great day of accounts. I will close this sermon, as I intend to preach another before I present the subject I more particularly wish to speak upon.

Is it not marvellous, considering the weakness of man, to see the willingness of this whole people to die if necessary for the truth? How do you suppose it makes me feel? Though I may sometimes chastise my brethren, and speak to them in the language of reproof, there is not a father who feels more tenderly towards his offspring, and loves them better than I love this people; and my Father in Heaven loves them; my heart yearns over them with all the emotions of tenderness, so that I could weep like a child; but I am careful to keep my tears to myself. If you do wrong, it grieves my heart, and it also grieves the heart of my heavenly Father. I feel continually to urge my brethren to cease from all evil, and learn to do well.

The children of men are made as independent in their sphere as the Lord is in His, to prove themselves, pursue which path they please, and choose the evil or the good. For those who love the Lord, and do His will, all is right, and they shall be crowned, but those who hate His ways shall be damned, for they choose to be damned.

✡  The fulness of the heavens and the earth is the Lord's--the gold and the silver, the wheat, the fine flour, and the cattle upon a thousand hills; and when we fully understand His works, we shall know that He is in all the earth, and fulfills His will among the children of men, exalting and debasing them according to His pleasure; for the systems, creeds, thrones, and kingdoms of the world are all under His control. "Shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it"--or that He doth not control? The Lord controls the whole; and in the end, you will find He has regulated all things right, for all will be consummated to His glory.

(Third Sermon Continued)

I will now again take up the subject of tithing. The brethren have done well. They have been willing and obedient, no people could have been more so; for this I thank my Father in Heaven. I could not wish a people to work more kindly in the yoke of Jesus than this people do; the yoke grows more and more easy to them. It seems that every man will not only pay his tithing, but give all he has, if the Lord requires it: still I see wherein they may do better. I asked the people to day to assist to pay our Church liabilities. The offer of three or four yoke of oxen only, we do not want; but I will lay before you what we wish you to do. By the manifesto which has been read, you have learned the precise situation of the property of the Church. What has incurred this debt? Why does it exist in the shape in which it now appears? And wherein could we have obviated the difficulty, and done better? A fourth part of the money already paid out, did not come in upon tithing. This money we have had to borrow in order to keep the public works in progress. You may say, wherein could we have done better, for we have paid our tithing punctually? But has that brother, who sent $100 back to the East for merchandize, paid $10 of it into the tithing office? Or did the brother who has sent $500 back, let us have $50? No; these have used it themselves, and thereby involved those who bear the responsibilities of the Trust. Again, those who have not possessed sufficient money to send back for merchandize, have been necessitated to pay out what they had. Thousands of dollars have been paid here for merchandize. Has one-tenth of all that money been paid into the tithing office? It has not. And where is the tithing that should have come in from England and California. Instead of tithing their money, they have used it for other purposes, and paid it in property, with which we could not pay our debts. This is wherein we have failed to liquidate our debts. The people go to these Gentile stores, on the Saturday, in crowds, to purchase goods. I think we shall not over-rate the amount, if we say that $500,000 has been paid, in these valleys, to the merchants. But suppose they have received no more than $50,000 from this community, $5,000 of that money ought to have been first paid into the tithing office and we could have sent it to the States, and purchased goods ourselves for one-third or one-half less than we have to pay the merchants here. And $25,000 more should have come into the tithing office from the Church in the United States. The brethren in California have made no less than $100,000, the tenth of which is due this tithing office. For want of this money, we are brought into bondage; and we must now apply our faith and works to raise means to liquidate our indebtedness, which has accumulated by purchasing goods at high and extortionate prices. I find no fault with the merchants, for they came here to gather gold by the hundred weight.

Let all the sheep stay in the Valley; also the cows; for they will give milk and butter, and replenish the stock. But when we speak of the horses, mules, and oxen, let every man look up his spare stock of this description, and with them help to liquidate these debts. Stock will now pay debts. I will use my stock for this purpose, and my brethren will do the same, until we have enough. I do not enjoin this upon you, as you have already paid the tithing which is required of you; except in some instances in the money tithing. Had we received the money due to us, we should have had no debts; but this failure has been, and is now, in existence. I will take every kind of spare stock I have, except my cows and sheep, and wipe off these debts until they are cancelled; and now every man who will do the same, let him rise upon his feet. [The whole congregation of two thousand men rose up to a man.] Do you suppose we want to deprive you of your teams? It is not so, but we wished to know the state of your faith, so that when we are ready to call upon you, we can be sure our call will be responded to. I would not cripple any man, I would rather give him five yoke of oxen, than destroy his team, and you know it. [Some of the brethren in the stand, not believing their own eyes, that the whole congregation rose, it was tried over again, to satisfy them, when the congregation all rose again to a man.] Brother Hunter now knows what to do. Many of the brethren are killing their calves; don't do this; if you cannot raise them, it will be better to give them away to those who can.

Now, brethren, and Bishops, look over this matter, and try to think what your feelings would be if you were laid under the same responsibility that I and my brethren have upon our shoulders. We are required to see the Gospel preached to the nations afar off, to build council houses and temples, to cope with the united wisdom and craft of legislative assemblies, and with the powers of darkness in high places; and then place yourselves in the circumstances we are now placed in! Besides all this, see the hundreds who come to us every day to be administered to in various ways: some want fruit, some sugar, others tea, and all want clothing, &c. Then step into our private rooms, where we commune with the people, and you will see and hear all this, and a great deal more. Instead of every man bringing his picayune, or his six pence, or his $5, &c., as tithing on the money in his possession, it is all used for something else, and the storehouse of the Lord is left empty. Suppose nothing had been put in there but what the people have put in, the workmen would have been naked. Walk into the storehouse, and examine for yourselves. To be sure there has been a little clothing put in lately; for instance, there was an old silk dress put in for $40, that had been lying for years rotting in the chest: this is a specimen of the rest. What are such things worth to our workmen? Why, nothing at all. We wish you to put in strong and substantial clothing. Good, strong, homemade stuffs make the most suitable clothing for those who are building up the public works.

It is not for any man to think he is a cipher--that what he can do will not tell in this matter, and say, "They will get along well enough without me;" but it is every man's duty to lay it to heart, and help what he can with his earthly substance; though I wish you to understand distinctly that it is no commandment--you are left to act freely.

✡  Will you help us out of this thraldom, and have it credited to your future tithing? There is already a great deal more due than would liquidate all our debts, but we cannot command it now. Do you feel willing to put your shoulder to the wheel, and continue to roll it forward, and still continue, you that have faith to continue, to increase in faith? for the business of this kingdom will increase, and the responsibility also; the labor will and must grow, and continue to increase, until the kingdoms of this world become the kingdom of our God and His Christ. So much on tithing; you see where the failure is; it is in that point, and nowhere else.

(Begin Fourth Sermon Insert Reformatted in Menorah Form)

My next sermon will be to both Saint and sinner.

(End Fourth Sermon Insert Reformatted in Menorah Form)

Treasure up these things in your hearts. In the Bible, you have read the things I have told you to-night; but you have not known what you did read. I have told you no more than you are conversant with; but what do the people in Christendom, with the Bible in their hands, know about this subject? Comparatively nothing.

One thing has remained a mystery in this kingdom up to this day.

I have given you a few leading items upon this subject, but a great deal more remains to be told. Now remember from this time forth, and forever, that Jesus Christ was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. I will repeat a little anecdote. I was in conversation with a certain learned professor upon this subject, when I replied, to this idea--"if the Son was begotten by the Holy Ghost, it would be very dangerous to baptize and confirm females, and give the Holy Ghost to them, lest he should beget children, to be palmed upon the Elders by the people, bringing the Elders into great difficulties."

It is in regard to the character of the well-beloved Son of God, upon which subject the Elders of Israel have conflicting views.

Again, they will try to tell how the divinity of Jesus is joined to his humanity, and exhaust all their mental faculties, and wind up with this profound language, as describing the soul of man, "it is an immaterial substance!" What a learned idea! Jesus, our elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same character that was in the garden of Eden, and who is our Father in Heaven. Now, let all who may hear these doctrines, pause before they make light of them, or treat them with indifference, for they will prove their salvation or damnation.

Our God and Father in heaven, is a being of tabernacle, or, in other words, He has a body, with parts the same as you and I have; and is capable of showing forth His works to organized beings, as, for instance, in the world in which we live, it is the result of the knowledge and infinite wisdom that dwell in His organized body. His son Jesus Christ has become a personage of tabernacle, and has a body like his father. The Holy Ghost is the Spirit of the Lord, and issues forth from Himself, and may properly be called God's minister to execute His will in immensity; being called to govern by His influence and power; but He is not a person of tabernacle as we are, and as our Father in Heaven and Jesus Christ are.

It is true that the earth was organized by three distinct characters, namely, Eloheim, Yahovah, and Michael, these three forming a quorum, as in all heavenly bodies, and in organizing element, perfectly represented in the Deity, as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

The question has been, and is often, asked, who it was that begat the Son of the Virgin Mary. The infidel world have concluded that if what the Apostles wrote about his father and mother be true, and the present marriage discipline acknowledged by Christendom be correct, then Christians must believe that God is the father of an illegitimate son, in the person of Jesus Christ! The infidel fraternity teach that to their disciples.

I have heard men preach upon the divinity of Christ, and exhaust all the wisdom they possessed. All Scripturalists, and approved theologians who were considered exemplary for piety and education, have undertaken to expound on this subject, in every obliged to conclude by exclaiming "great is the mystery of godliness," and tell nothing.

I will tell you how it is.

I could tell you much more about this; but were I to tell you the whole truth, blasphemy would be nothing to it, in the estimation of the superstitious and over-righteous of mankind. However, I have told you the truth as far as I have gone.

Our Father in Heaven begat all the spirits that ever were, or ever will be, upon this earth; and they were born spirits in the eternal world. Then the Lord by His power and wisdom organized the mortal tabernacle of man. We were made first spiritual, and afterwards temporal.

They came here, organized the raw material, and arranged in their order the herbs of the field, the trees, the apple, the peach, the plum, the pear, and every other fruit that is desirable and good for man; the seed was brought from another sphere, and planted in this earth. The thistle, and thorn, the brier, and the obnoxious weed did not appear until after the earth was cursed. When Adam and Eve had eaten of the forbidden fruit, their bodies became mortal from its effects, and therefore their offspring were mortal. When the Virgin Mary conceived the child Jesus, the Father had begotten him in his own likeness. He was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. And who is the Father? He is the first of the human family; and when he took a tabernacle, it was begotten by his Father in heaven, after the same manner as the tabernacles of Cain, Abel, and the rest of the sons and daughters of Adam and Eve; from the fruits of the earth, the first earthly tabernacles were originated by the Father, and so on in succession.

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  • Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner!
    • When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world.
    • He is MICHAEL, the Archangel, the ANCIENT OF DAYS! about whom holy men have written and spoken--HE is our FATHER and our GOD, and the only God with whom WE have to do.
  • Every man upon the earth, professing Christians or non-professing, must hear it, and will know it sooner or later.

(Hebrew definition of the word Adam:

Hebrew meaning of the word adam or אדם.

Man, mankind, firstblood, father of blood, red lord, Principle Father << אדם.

blood, red, redish, entrails, vitals << דם.

first, father, god, prince, 1000, 1 << א.

4, door, world, sword << ד.

40, water, messiah, meditate<< ם.

(Hebrew definition of the word Michael:

Hebrew meaning of the word Michael or מיכאל .

Who, as, God << מיכאל .

Who << מי .

as << כ .

God << אל .

40, water, messiah, meditate<< מ.

10, arm, hand, work, deed << י . .

20, cupping hand, to open, to begin, as, like << כ . .

first, father, god, prince, 1000, 1 << א.

30, teacher, staff, goad, control, to, for, toward << ל . .)

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Menorah Analysis of the two channels of thought embedded in the Adam God Theory.

( To benefit from the Adam God Theory as a Thinking System we should not have the two channels of thought in conflict. )



Main Focus is on the FATHER


Main Focus is on Jesus Christ


LIGHT (Origin of God)


TRUTH (Origin of Man)


Light begins the Questions


Truth ends the Questions


Destiny defines the perspective


Journey defines the perspective


Last sermon of Joseph Smith Jr. June 16, 1844

Part of the address

. . .

I will preach on the plurality of the Gods. I have selected this text for that express purpose. I wish to declare I have always and in all congregations when I have preached on the subject of the Deity. It has been the plurality of Gods. It has been preached by the Elders for fifteen years.

. . .

In the very beginning the Bible shows there is a plurality of Gods beyond the power of refutation. It is a great subject I am dwelling on. The word Eloheim ought to be in the plural all the way through--Gods. The heads of the Gods appointed one God for us; and when you take [that] view of the subject, it sets one free to see all the beauty, holiness and perfection of the Gods. All I want is to get the simple, naked truth, and the whole truth.

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Taken from the last sermon of Joseph Smith Jr. 11 days before his death.

Eloheim declared to mean Gods in plural

Pres. Wilford Woodruff; General Conference address of April, 1895.

Part of the address

. . . .

Before I sit down I want to say a word to the Elders of Israel on another subject. I am called an old man. I guess I am. I was thinking just now, in speaking of the Apostles and Prophets that were with Joseph Smith when he made his last speech. I am the only man living that was with him at that time. The rest are to-day in the spirit world. How much longer I shall talk to this people I do not know; but I want to say this to all Israel: Cease troubling yourselves about who God is; who Adam is, who Christ is, who Jehovah is. For heaven's sake, let these things alone. Why trouble yourselves about these things? God has revealed Himself, and when the 121st section of the Doctrine and Covenants is fulfilled, whether there be one God or many gods they will be revealed to the children of men, as well as all thrones and dominions, principalities, and powers. Then why trouble yourselves about these things? God is God. Christ is Christ. The Holy Ghost is the Holy Ghost. That should be enough for you and me to know. If we want to know any more, wait till we get where God is in person. I say this because we are troubled every little while with inquiries from Elders anxious to know who God is, who Christ is, and who Adam is. I say to the Elders of Israel, stop this. Humble yourselves before the Lord; seek for light, for truth, and for a knowledge of the common things of the kingdom of God. The Lord is the same yesterday, to-day, and forever. He changes not. The Son of God is the same. He is the Savior of the world. He is our advocate with the Father. We have had letter after letter from Elders abroad wanting to know concerning these things. Adam is the first man. He was placed in the Garden of Eden, and is our great progenitor. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost, are the same yesterday, to-day and forever. That should be sufficient for us to know.

I pray god to bless these Apostles, and to bless us all, and to give us wisdom and power to magnify our calling and to do our duty before the Lord, that we may be prepared to give an account of our stewardship while dwelling in the flesh. I pray that the lord will be merciful to us as a people and give those who bear the priesthood power to build up Zion and prepare the way for the coming of the Son of Man, which may God grant, for Christ's sake. Amen.

Millennial Star 57:355-356; Thursday June 6 1895 issue

Eloheim sufficient for us to mean God

"Church under Brigham Young"

. . . How many earths are there? I observed this morning that you may take the particles of matter composing this earth, and if they could be enumerated they would only be a beginning to the number of the creations of God; and they are continually coming into existence, and undergoing changes and passing through the same experience that we are passing through. Sin is upon every earth that ever was created, and if it was not so, I would like some philosophers to let us know how people can be exalted to become sons of God, and enjoy a fulness of glory with the Redeemer. Consequently every earth has its redeemer, and every earth has its tempter; and every earth, and the people thereof, in their turn and time, receive all that we receive, and pass through all the ordeals that we are passing through. Is this easy to understand? It is perfectly easy to me; . . .
Complete Sermon 1870 July 10,1870
Thematic of "God was once a man" statements of Joseph Smith Jr. Part One and Two:
Thematic of King Follett Part One

Thematic of King Follett Part Two

"Church since Joseph F. Smith"

Moses 1:27-42 27 And it came to pass, as the voice was still speaking, Moses cast his eyes and beheld the earth, yea, even all of it; and there was not a particle of it which he did not behold, discerning it by the spirit of God. 28 And he beheld also the inhabitants thereof, and there was not a soul which he beheld not; and he discerned them by the Spirit of God; and their numbers were great, even numberless as the sand upon the sea shore. 29 And he beheld many lands; and each land was called earth, and there were inhabitants on the face thereof. 30 And it came to pass that Moses called upon God, saying: Tell me, I pray thee, why these things are so, and by what thou madest them? 31 And behold, the glory of the Lord was upon Moses, so that Moses stood in the presence of God, and talked with him face to face. And the Lord God said unto Moses: For mine own purpose have I made these things. Here is wisdom and it remaineth in me. 32 And by the word of my power, have I created them, which is mine Only Begotten Son, who is full of grace and truth. 33 And worlds without number have I created; and I also created them for mine own purpose; and by the Son I created them, which is mine Only Begotten. 34 And the first man of all men have I called Adam, which is many. 35 But only an account of this earth, and the inhabitants thereof, give I unto you. For behold, there are many worlds that have passed away by the word of my power. And there are many that now stand, and innumerable are they unto man; but all things are numbered unto me, for they are mine and I know them. 36 And it came to pass that Moses spake unto the Lord, saying: Be merciful unto thy servant, O God, and tell me concerning this earth, and the inhabitants thereof, and also the heavens, and then thy servant will be content. 37 And the Lord God spake unto Moses, saying: The heavens, they are many, and they cannot be numbered unto man; but they are numbered unto me, for they are mine. 38 And as one earth shall pass away, and the heavens thereof even so shall another come; and there is no end to my works, neither to my words. 39 For behold, this is my work and my glory--to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man. 40 And now, Moses, my son, I will speak unto thee concerning this earth upon which thou standest; and thou shalt write the things which I shall speak. 41 And in a day when the children of men shall esteem my words as naught and take many of them from the book which thou shalt write, behold, I will raise up another like unto thee; and they shall be had again among the children of men--among as many as shall believe. 42 (These words were spoken unto Moses in the mount, the name of which shall not be known among the children of men. And now they are spoken unto you. Show them not unto any except them that believe. Even so. Amen.


"Old School"


"New School"


The seen version


The apparent version


"worlds without number" reckoning

(Inductive Reasoning Centered)


"this earth only" view

(Deductive Reasoning Centered)


Eternal Proxy Subrogation


Divine Investiture of Authority


Peculiar


Mainstream


Lilies of the Field


Solomon in all his glory


With Brigham Young one begins with the scriptures as:

the scriptures contain all the questions.


With Orson Pratt/Joseph F. Smith one ends with the scriptures as:

the scriptures contain all the answers.

I will tell you how it is.

Another matter. We hope that you who teach in the various organizations, whether on the campuses or in our chapels, will always teach the orthodox truth. We warn you against the dissemination of doctrines which are not according to the scriptures and which are alleged to have been taught by some of the General Authorities of past generations. Such, for instance, is the Adam-God theory. We denounce that theory and hope that everyone will be cautioned against this and other kinds of false doctrine.
~Spencer W. Kimball November 1976

(Please Note "Adam-God Theory" is NOT the same as "Adam God Theory")

how to teach what

what to teach how

I could tell you much more about this; but were I to tell you the whole truth, blasphemy would be nothing to it, in the estimation of the superstitious and over-righteous of mankind. However, I have told you the truth as far as I have gone.

At the time this statement was made in the 1976 Priesthood conference, I was serving on a priesthood committee under the direction of Elder Mark E. Petersen. We were at that time working with a number of people who believed the Adam-God theory, and our committee wanted to know more precisely what President Kimball meant by his statement, so through Elder Petersen we made an appointment with him and asked him. In a private interview President Kimball made the following clarifications: He said that he did not say that President Brigham Young did not make the statements which are attributed to him, nor did he claim that they were falsely reported. Neither did he say that Brigham Young taught false doctrine. What he did say and what he meant is that the Adam-God theory is false, and the Adam-God theory is that interpretation which is placed on Brigham Young's words by present day apostates and fundamentalists - their understanding of what Brigham Young meant is false.

Considering both President Kimball's original statement and his subsequent clarification, what we need is an understanding of what Brigham Young meant by his statements which is in accordance with scripture. This is reasonable even without President Kimball's statements, because any of President Young's teachings which are not in harmony with scripture would simply be wrong anyway.
~Elden Watson

broaching the whole truth is unorthodoxy

orthodoxy is truth

enlightenment first

order first

ELOHEIM SEEN AS OUR GRANDFATHER(S)

Journal of Discourses Volume 4 Page 215

Off Site Journal of Discourses Volume 4 Page 215

ELOHEIM APPEARS AS OUR FATHER

Celestial Being with more than one wife

is

Father of Jesus

ELOHEIM

is

Father of Jesus

REGENTS JEHOVAH and MICHAEL were brothers, beings with celestial bodies
acting for and in behalf of "Future Jehovah" and "Future Michael."
"Future Jehovah" and "Future Michael" were beings without bodies, or spirits.

Jehovah and Michael were brothers, beings without bodies, or spirits.

ADAM and EVE were brought here from another Earth like planet to this Earth with bodies.
ADAM and EVE were married and sealed before coming to this Earth to the Garden of Eden.
We are THEIR children both spiritual and physical in common.

The body of Adam and the body of Eve were begotten here or "made" here on this Earth.
Adam and Eve were married and sealed here on this Earth after receiving bodies.
We are their physical children.

ADAM became Eloheim to this Earth and His children yet still MICHAEL to His ELOHEIM.
ELOHEIM left this Earth with MICHAEL or ADAM in charge of His children who are
"future Adams" and the "Future Jehovah."
"Future Jehovah" is the name by which MICHAEL speaks to His children.

Alma 12:33 33 But God did call on men, in the name of his Son, (this being the plan of redemption which was laid) saying: If ye will repent and harden not your hearts, then will I have mercy upon you, through mine Only Begotten Son; Alma 12:34 34 Therefore, whosoever repenteth, and hardeneth not his heart, he shall have claim on mercy through mine Only Begotten Son, unto a remission of his sins; and these shall enter into my rest.

Jude 1:9 9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Adam cast out of the Garden of Eden to the world we now live.
Jehovah left in charge of this Earth.

Eloheim is Father of Jesus

1 Corinthians 15:45 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

ELOHEIM appears to be the Father of Jesus

1 Corinthians 15:45 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

Jesus prepares the Earth for ELOHEIM to return.

Jesus prepares the Earth for ELOHEIM to return.

Unorthodox Truth

Orthodox Truth

DIRECT MIND PERCEPTION

DIRECT MENTAL PROCESS

(Insight)

(Intuition)

⋁ 

Synthetical Thinking

∟ 

Analytical Thinking

✡ 
  • Treasure up these things in your hearts. In the Bible, you have read the things I have told you to-night; but you have not known what you did read. I have told you no more than you are conversant with; but what do the people in Christendom, with the Bible in their hands, know about this subject? Comparatively nothing.

  • DMP, Third State, Understanding, Corpus Callosum Thinking, Perspective.

  • Brigham Young could and did embrace either of both of these view points/perspectives/concepts at his choice, which may explain the Bruce R. McConkie observation:

    Yes, President Young did teach that Adam was the father of our Spirits, and all the related things that the cultists ascribe to him. This, however, is not true. He expressed views that are out of harmony with the gospel. But, be it known, Brigham Young also taught accurately and correctly, the status and position of Adam in the eternal scheme of things. What I am saying is, that Brigham Young, contradicted Brigham Young, and the issue becomes one of which Brigham Young we will believe. The answer is we will believe the expressions that accord with the teachings in the standard works.

    Yes, Brigham Young did say some things about God progressing in knowledge and understanding, but again, be it known, that Brigham Young taught, emphatically and plainly, that God knows all things and has all power meaning in the infinite, eternal and ultimate and absolute sense of the word. Again, the issue is, which Brigham Young shall we believe and the answer is: We will take the one whose statements accord with what God has revealed in the Standard Works.

  • [Hugh Nibley, BYU Studies, Vol. 11, No. 1, Autumn 1970, p.61-62] quote: "No man ever spoke his mind more frankly on all subjects; all his days he strove to communicate his inmost feelings, unburdening himself without the aid of notes or preparation in a vigorous and forthright prose that was the purest anti-rhetoric. It has been common practice to dismiss any saying of his of which one disapproves (and he makes no effort to please) by observing that he said so much on so many things that he was bound to contradict himself, and therefore need not be taken too seriously all the time. No view could be more ill-advised, for there never was a man more undeviatingly consistent and rational in thought and utterance. . . . Granted that Brigham would admonish the Saints to wear overcoats one day, so to speak, and the next day turn around and advise shirt-sleeves, the element of scandal and confusion vanishes if we only get the main idea, which is, that it is not the rule-book or the Administration but the weather that prescribes the proper dress for the day. All the other apparent contradictions in Brother Brigham's teachings likewise vanish when we grasp the main idea behind them. endquote

  • If You Could Hie to Kolob

    LDS Hymns, If You Could Hie to Kolob, no. 284

    1. If you could hie to Kolob
    In the twinkling of an eye,
    And then continue onward
    With that same speed to fly,
    Do you think that you could ever,
    Through all eternity,
    Find out the generation
    Where Gods began to be?

    2. Or see the grand beginning,
    Where space did not extend?
    Or view the last creation,
    Where Gods and matter end?
    Methinks the Spirit whispers,
    "No man has found 'pure space,'
    Nor seen the outside curtains,
    Where nothing has a place."

    3. The works of God continue,
    And worlds and lives abound;
    Improvement and progression
    Have one eternal round.
    There is no end to matter;
    There is no end to space;
    There is no end to spirit;
    There is no end to race.

    4. There is no end to virtue;
    There is no end to might;
    There is no end to wisdom;
    There is no end to light.
    There is no end to union;
    There is no end to youth;
    There is no end to priesthood;
    There is no end to truth.

    5. There is no end to glory;
    There is no end to love;
    There is no end to being;
    There is no death above.
    There is no end to glory;
    There is no end to love;
    There is no end to being;
    There is no death above.

    Text LDS song page 284: William W. Phelps, 1792-1872

  • 1 Corinthians 8:5-6 5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) 1 Corinthians 8:6 6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

  • In the very beginning the Bible shows there is a plurality of Gods beyond the powers of refutation. It is a great subject I am dwelling on. The word Eloheim ought to be in the plural all the way through--Gods. The heads of the Gods appointed one God for us; and when you take [that] view of the subject, it sets one free to see all the beauty, holiness and perfection of the Gods. All I want is to get the simple, naked truth, and the whole truth.
    ~Joseph Smith Jr.
    Page 372 TEACHINGS OF THE PROPHET JOSEPH SMITH compile by Joseph Fielding Smith © 1976 Deseret Book Company

  • Doctrine and Covenants 121:26-33 March 1839
    • 26 God shall give unto you knowledge by his holy Spirit, yea, by the unspeakable gift of the Holy Ghost, that has not been revealed since the world was until now; 27 Which our forefathers have awaited with anxious expectation to be revealed in the last times, which their minds were pointed to by the angels, as held in reserve for the fulness of their glory; 28 A time to come in the which nothing shall be withheld, whether there be one God or many gods, they shall be manifest.
    • 29 All thrones and dominions, principalities and powers, shall be revealed and set forth upon all who have endured valiantly for the gospel of Jesus Christ.
    • 30 And also, if there be bounds set to the heavens or to the seas, or to the dry land, or to the sun, moon, or stars--
    • 31 All the times of their revolutions; all the appointed days, months, and years, and all the days of their days, months, and years, and all their glories, laws, and set times, shall be revealed in the days of the dispensation of the fulness of times--
    • 32 According to that which was ordained in the midst of the Council of the Eternal God of all other gods before this world was, that should be reserved unto the finishing and the end thereof, when every man shall enter into his eternal presence and into his immortal rest.
    • How long can rolling waters remain impure?
    • What power shall stay the heavens?
    • As well might man stretch forth his puny arm to stop the Missouri river in its decreed course, or to turn it up stream, as to hinder the Almighty from pouring down knowledge from heaven upon the heads of the Latter-day Saints.

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    Many reasons:


  1. First Reason
    is that it is too advanced. Advanced or high/deep theory or doctrine divide the church and leadership into two camps of those who understand it and those who do not understand it. Jacob in the Book of Mormon advised that we should "prophesy to the understanding."
    • Jacob 4:13 13 Behold, my brethren, he that prophesieth, let him prophesy to the understanding of men; for the Spirit speaketh the truth and lieth not.

    • 2 Nephi 33:1 1 And now I, Nephi, cannot write all the things which were taught among my people; neither am I mighty in writing, like unto speaking; for when a man speaketh by the power of the Holy Ghost the power of the Holy Ghost carrieth it unto the hearts of the children of men.

    • 2 Nephi 33:2 2 But behold, there are many that harden their hearts against the Holy Spirit, that it hath no place in them; wherefore, they cast many things away which are written and esteem them as things of naught.

    • 2 Nephi 33:3A 3A But I, Nephi, have written what I have written, and I esteem it as of great worth, and especially unto my people.

    • 1852 Sermon by Brigham Young Let a Bishop, a High Priest, a President of any Stake or Quorum, any who are Elders in Israel, or any individual Saint from the first to the last of them, fall into error, and it is at once made manifest; he cannot pursue that course any further, for he is where lie can learn his duties, and know how to walk straight in the paths of righteousness. Here is the place for you to teach great mysteries to your brethren, because here are those who can correct you. This fault the Elders of Israel do not fall into in this Tabernacle, although they may in private houses and neighborhoods. When a man is capable of correcting you, and of giving you light, and true doctrine, do not get up an altercation, but submit to be taught like little children, and strive with all your might to understand.


    Understanding of men vary and hardness of heart vary, so which level of hardness and which level of understanding do you choose to address advanced theory or doctrine? Do you gather people according to their capacities to receive and thus divide the church according to their strengths and have more than one group? (Of course there is the hierarchical division between leadership and lay members, which is division enough, but we are concerned here with a deeper division of understanding of doctrine.) The scriptures says except you are one you are not mine. So now, we are in between a rock and a hard place as to selecting the level of understanding or strength to receive new or advanced doctrine. So who selects the level? Would it be a level for ease of Church management? But Joseph said "I teach them correct principles and they govern themselves." Would it be a level to have the greatest church population? The greatest church population would mean greater donations through offerings and tithing. Now we come to a concept that is often called "dead level mormonism" which means that those who become too advance are brought down to the selected level and those new to the church and weaker saints will be brought up to that same selected level. However this may be, Brigham Young ignored the concept of "dead level mormonism" and taught big things to all. To "saints and sinners" alike; so much for dead level! Current policy is to have all read manuals in synchronization and all use the same manuals. This means personal pace of learning is ignored and the dead level pace is set externally, with the exception of personal study which has minimal controls and hopefully no controls. Nevertheless some group study outside the church is advised against, it is admitted. But generally you can learn all you want on your own. This in effect defeats the dead levels in actuality anyway and people are saved as persons and not as a group, as rejected in the pre-existence counsels.

  2. Second Reason is it is a thinking system and thinking can not be instructed as other principles of the gospel. 'As a man thinketh so is he' . 'For My thoughts are not your (their in Hebrew) thoughts'. If children are brought up with the idea or theory they will see that it is exquisitely simple. This thinking system will be part of their mental tools for the rest of their lives. Self-esteem is enhanced with the theory and this is a destroyer of social classes and differentiations. Thinking is seen to be restricted to those in power positions by the world where lordship is prevalent.

  3. Third Reason is it is used to identify those who would practice polygyny. It seems to be associated with this form of marriage before and after the manifesto. If the membership is given this taboo, then those who get through this taboo are detected. Therefore they can be easily removed from the Church, if they are practicing a forbidden form of marriage. Persons who were prepared for plural marriage were given additional instructions. Adam God Theory may have been this additional instructions. Since the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints no longer practices Patriarchal Marriage, this tradition is manifest and the church can comply with the laws of the land by removing law breakers. Who tenaciously hold to this view of creation. Since it explains our creation better, this method of determining offenders has serious side effect/affect, which tends to selectively dumb down the general membership overall. Or truth is truth let the light shine in every dark place. The correct understanding of the Adam God Theory explains why the early mormons practiced "plural marriage."

  4. Fourth Reason is it is strangely not Christian and it puts up walls to proselytes--difficult to talk through. It is just too strange unless explained in the “Big Picture,” or with a thinking system to objectively handle it. The "Big Picture" is a Temple Concept.

  5. Fifth Reason is it weakens dogma (or counter-balances it). When Orson Pratt was teaching a dogma concerning the birth of Christ, Brigham Young introduced this view point in conference to strongly counteract the teachings of some of the Elders who were teaching a dogma to undermine original teachings. True dogma facilitates church management. False dogma undermines church teachings and management. Orson was returning to false Christian dogma.

  6. Sixth Reason Is a quote from Adam God Theory © 1986:

    Perhaps herein lies the clue as to the violent reactions to this proposition as it engenders autonomy and total culpability and personal responsibility. If one were to socially engineer a people, it would be easiest to mold and shape those who believe in evolution or direct creation from material rather than those who believe in being the issue of woman, because they would be bound by the concept of their origin and resign themselves always to be the product of some other's design than their own family. However, if you tell a people they are free and have an origin and mind to prove it, they will act accordingly. It is because of the facility gained to control people efficiently that the social engineer devise artificial traditions by disturbing their roots and myths or redefining the truth of their origin and destiny. It is, therefore, absolutely crucial to freedom to know the truth of our origin that we may be free to decide our future without the machinations of the social engineers.

    To know the true origin of our past is to give meaning to our present life. To foreknow the true destiny of our future is to give purpose to our present life. It is impossible to deceive a person who knows for himself who he came from, who he is, and who he shall become.

    BENEFACTIONS OF THE THEORY

    It is an ill wind that blows no good. Children become completely absolved of all taint that is ascribed by Christianity to children as being born in sin. In these last days, abortion is running rampant and children are being blamed for the errors of the adults who brought them forth. If children were the issue of a God rather than an Adam who fell and sinned and was cast out to forever suffer, could inappropriate guilt be ingrained into children because of superstition and ignorance of what really is the origin of man? Could child abuse and the disparagement of children as a burden and unwanted encumbrance be tolerated if we accepted the idea that they are direct descendants of a God rather than a fallen rebel? If "Adam" was our God, then forever are our children ennobled to be the children of a god and can only be condemned and accountable for their own acts, at an age where their maturity makes them personally responsible for their own acts and not for a fallen parent. The Adam God theory elevates children to purity, and relegate adults to a more responsible and guilty position, which probably is why it is so violently rejected.

    A great deal of study is needed to further explore the reasons this idea has met with such varied and positive emotional mind sets. However, there are not enough persons who now know enough about this version or view of the gospel to make satisfactory comparison studies. The strict taboo and suspicions of apostasy that are engendered by the adherents or detractors also further exacerbate the problem. It is too bad that it cannot be open to study so that our past can be more readily understood--and our future.


  7. Seventh Reason is a misunderstanding of the first commandment of the Ten Commandments:
    (.א לֹא-יִהְיֶה לְךָ אֱלֹהִים אֲחֵרִים, עַל-פָּנָי )

    which says literally "You shall not have to you gods of other peoples before my face." It does not say you shall not have gods after my face or behind me. Joseph Smith said that he would not worship a god who does not have a father. The first commandment thus being misunderstood, many will not consider that they are part of the family of heaven. But we are the children of Heavenly Father who is the Father of Jesus.

    Adam is a God the Father of us and a Son of GOD THE FATHER of all.

    Moses 6:68 68 Behold, thou art one in me, a son of God; and thus may all become my sons.

  8. Eighth Reason is it is peculiar and not mainstream, lacking traditional background history.

  9. Ninth Reason - Orthodoxy -

  10. Tenth Reason - The knowledge is lost - to some.
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How many approaches to self-study of Adam God Theory are there?

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There may be at least ten general approaches to explain ADAMS role in creation of man itemized as follows:

  1. First Theory Version
  2. Adam was created from this earth's dust and after having been formed was given the breath of life. He then fell and became the father of this worlds mortality. Eve was created from "Adam's rib" in a literal sense as if she were a female clone of Adam.

  3. Second Theory Version
  4. Adam was the third member of a Presidency of Heaven and was given life after a long sleep. His origin varies according to the belief in the role that His Father had in his coming to life and receiving the breath of life. He fell through a divine plan for the salvation of mankind in this earth trial. (Essentially this is a magic view as Adam appears as if by magic as if it is just "accepted" God placed Adam in his position with no importance assign to the knowledge of his origin. 2003 addition)

  5. Third Theory Version
  6. Adam is a Son of God in a literal sense. Adam's Father is conceived as a Senior Adam and our Earth has Junior Adam as our Adam. This makes the introduction of mankind after the fall a two phase event. It was Adam Junior who fell and died. It seems to suggest Senior Adam is Eloheim. Senior Adam begets the body of Junior Adam who fell and died. The question not answered is how did Senior Adam beget a body instead of a spirit as Senior Adam is the Father of Adam Junior spirit also. So Adam Senior is the immediate Father of Adam Juniors body and spirit. Or Adam Senior is the Common Father of Adam Junior! Or Adam Senior is the Common Father of Jesus Christ!!
    ~Elden Watson

    ~Clark Goble (LDS)

  7. Fourth Theory Version
  8. Adam is and was the God who was the Savior from a previous earth and received life in Himself such that He could die and live at will. This version put Adam as a Son of an Adam who is a Son of an Adam ad infinitum. The fall was merely a process of creation and was not a transgression of law but a kind of miracle we only could understand if we were likewise to be given life in oneself.

  9. Fifth Theory Version
  10. Adam was Michael who was chosen in the pre-existent counsels and was a spirit personage. A PERSON with a body was needed to do the work for and in behalf of Michael to start the Human Race; this PERSON is MICHAEL a SENIOR MICHAEL WHO does proxy work for Junior Michael Who will at some point later inherit this mantle. This substitution is referred to as "Eternal Proxy Subrogation." This vicarious work by regents is the basis of the thesis in The Adam God Theory by the author james n. hall © 1986 STP newer printing 2014. FUTURLOGICS is used here to research the ideas that explain THE ADAM GOD THEORY .

    ( Purchase ADAM GOD THEORY Scriptural References and Commentary from Createspace )

  11. Sixth Theory Version
  12. This theory is a result of rejecting the original views and propositions of Brigham Young and the effort to replace it with an 'idea' that builds a 'Cosmic' Christ. In this view the pre-mortal Christ is the creator of man's body. The Father is somewhat eclipsed such as the moon eclipses the sun. Since the Atonement of Christ is infinite in its defined effect; it is to save people of the other earths in the cosmos. In this version the reason Christ chose this Earth to come to do His atonement is that it is the wickedest of all creations. By overcoming this Earth the atonement will be more effective to the Universe of Earths less wicked. This 'idea' uses the principle that Christ descended below all things to be above all things. (added 2003)


    Link to:
    Wickedest Earth Idea Text

  13. Seventh Theory Version
  14. This version proposes that no one knows what Brigham meant. The downside of this version is that it makes Brigham a poor teacher. The upside of this version is that we can suspend discussion over the matter until we can get a mind that is the equal of Brigham to explain what he meant. It is treated as an anomaly. www.mormoninterpreter.com ~Dennis B. Horne

  15. Eighth Theory Version
  16. This version proposes that Brigham is/was wrong. And, if those who propose Brigham is/was wrong are wrong then, this sets up logical oscillations and a vortex of authority wars. Here is an example from Bruce R. McConkie.

  17. Nineth Theory Version
  18. This version is included here and has its origin in Science and Social Engineering to remove religious theory to make a compliant people. In Brigham Youngs library are some of Darwins works he studied. Social Engineering is facilitated by theory of origins. This version is added as a non religious or an areligious "world view" to exemplify the effect/affect of self-definition coming from a belief or theory on behavior and thought.

  19. Tenth Theory Version
  20. This version is a method to emphasize the role of Jesus such that the mention of the Father is eclipse in the grandeur of Christ. It is accomplished by barely mentioning the Father except where necessary and required through scriptural mandates. Thus the Adam God Theory is set in the background to Christ; however the scriptures below say be careful:

    2 Nephi 25:26 26 And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins.

    Jacob 4:5 5 Behold, they believed in Christ and worshiped the Father in his name, and also we worship the Father in his name.

    3 Nephi 27:13-18 13 Behold I have given unto you my gospel, and this is the gospel which I have given unto you--that I came into the world to do the will of my Father, because my Father sent me. 14 And my Father sent me that I might be lifted up upon the cross; and after that I had been lifted up upon the cross, that I might draw all men unto me, that as I have been lifted up by men even so should men be lifted up by the Father, to stand before me, to be judged of their works, whether they be good or whether they be evil-- 15 And for this cause have I been lifted up; therefore, according to the power of the Father I will draw all men unto me, that they may be judged according to their works. 16 And it shall come to pass, that whoso repenteth and is baptized in my name shall be filled; and if he endureth to the end, behold, him will I hold guiltless before my Father at that day when I shall stand to judge the world. 17 And he that endureth not unto the end, the same is he that is also hewn down and cast into the fire, from whence they can no more return, because of the justice of the Father. 18 And this is the word which he hath given unto the children of men.

    None the less, Jesus said my Father is greater than I and I and my Father are one and I came to do the will of the Father. Therefore this version's method will diminish Jesus rather than cause Jesus to loom greater than the Father. Further more, one must know the identity, character, perfections, attributes, purposes, plans, works of the Father to understand Jesus.

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Let the white snake/fish in the TAO represent right brain thinking in DMP or Insight

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black eye dominates --- white eye dominates

posa0 posa1

black snake/fish dominates --- white snake/fish dominates

posa2 posa3

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(Corrected Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam%E2%80%93God_doctrine on "Adam-God" follows:)

Adam–God doctrine (This should be) Michael God Theory

Because Brigham Young actually said:

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      Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint    
      and sinner! When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he
      came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his
      wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is 
      MICHAEL, the Archangel, the ANCIENT OF DAYS! about whom holy men 
      have written and spoken--HE is our FATHER and our GOD, and the 
      only God with whom WE have to do.  



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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia corrected by www.adamgodtheory.com

The Michael Adam God doctrine (or Michael Adam God theory) was a theological doctrine/theory taught in mid-19th century Mormonism by church president Brigham Young, and accepted to some degree by later presidents John Taylor, and Wilford Woodruff, and by some apostles who served under them in the leadership of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church). Although false versions of Brigham Youngs original teachings are rejected today by the LDS Church, versions of the doctrine are still an accepted part of the modern theology of some Mormon fundamentalists. According to President Brigham Young, he was taught by Joseph Smith[1] that Father Adam or Michael, Who help form the Earth, is "our Father and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do".[2]

According to the doctrine/theory, Michael was once a mortal man who received a resurrection and part of the exaltation. From another planet, he then came as Michael to help form the earth.[3] Michael brought one of his wives with him to this Earth, where they were change by partaking of the dust of this Earth in the Garden of Eden. After bearing mortal children and establishing the human race, They returned to their former state where they serve God their Heavenly Father. Later, One returns to the Earth as a Regent to the ancient prophets, and to become the literal father of Jesus.

During the 19th century and early-20th century, these ideas were taught in LDS Church meetings, sung in church hymns, and featured as part of the church's endowment ceremony. However, the doctrine/theory was startling to New Mormons when it was introduced, and it was controversial. Apostle Orson Pratt, rejected the doctrine in favor of other theological ideas. Eventually, what became known as Adam–God doctrine fell out of favor with the LDS Church Leaders and was replaced by a theology more similar to that of Pratt, as codified by turn-of-the century Mormon theologians James E. Talmage, B. H. Roberts, and John A. Widtsoe. In 1976, LDS Church president Spencer W. Kimball stated that the church does not support the doctrine/theory to be taught in the Church Education System. Presently, most Mormons accept Adam as "the Ancient of Days", "father of all",[4] and "Michael the Archangel", but do not recognize him as being "God the Father of Michael Who was created as Adam".

Link to Read the rest of Wiki Content NOT CORRECTED!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam%E2%80%93God_doctrine

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  2. The Adam-God Theory defines Eloheim as Adam! This was not taught by Brigham Young as he said:
              Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint     
              and sinner! When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he
              came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his
              wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is  ✡<--------(Here is the proof!)
              MICHAEL, the Archangel, the ANCIENT OF DAYS! about whom holy men
              have written and spoken--HE is our FATHER and our GOD, and the
              only God with whom WE have to do. Every man upon the earth,
              professing Christians or non-professing, must hear it, and will
              know it sooner or later. They came here, organized the raw . . .
    
  3. The Adam God Theory defines Michael as Adam! And Brigham said "He helped to make and organize this world" which means that Adam is under an Eloheim! Eloheim brought Michael here to this Earth.
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“God Himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!

That is the great secret.

If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by His power, was to make Himself visible,—

I say, if you were to see Him today, you would see Him like a man in form—

like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man;

for Adam was created in the very fashion, image and likeness of God, and received instruction from, and walked, talked and conversed with Him, as one man talks and communes with another. …

~ Joseph Smith Jr.


"Thy mind, O man!

if thou wilt lead a soul unto salvation,

must stretch as high as the utmost heavens,

and the broad expanse of eternity—

thou must commune with God."

~ Joseph Smith Jr.


So shall it be with my father:

he shall be called a prince over his posterity,

holding the keys of the patriarchal priesthood over the kingdom of God on earth,

even the Church of the Latter Day Saints,

and he shall sit in the general assembly of patriarchs,

even in council with the Ancient of Days when he shall sit and all the patriarchs with him

and shall enjoy his right and authority under the direction of the Ancient of Days.

~ Joseph Smith Jr.


ADAM GOD THEORY

Advanced Level Viewed as a Thinking System


Man is the final unit of measure and Michael is the fractile of the Universe.






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What is a thinking system?

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PREFACE TO THE ELEMENTS OF THE "CONTROVERSY"

THE BASIS OF THE CONTROVERSY

The 1852 Sermons of Brigham Young as printed in the Journal of Discourses Volume 1 Pages 46 to 53.

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Why study both LDS general versions of the Adam and God ideas . . . ?

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Was Eve a clone of Adam?

If Jesus is the second Adam, and since the first Adam was married, was the second/last Adam married or was Jesus married?

How many Adams are there?

In the many Adams, who do we worship?

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