ADAM GOD THEORY

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Thy mind, O man! if thou wilt lead a soul unto salvation, must stretch as high as the utmost heavens, and search into and contemplate the darkest abyss, and the broad expanse of eternity—thou must commune with God. - Joseph Smith Jr.


Brigham Young, April 9, 1852

SELF-GOVERNMENT--MYSTERIES--RECREATION AND AMUSEMENT, NOT IN THEMSELVES SINFUL--TITHING--ADAM, OUR FATHER AND OUR GOD--TITHING

A sermon delivered by President Brigham Young, in the Tabernacle, Great Salt Lake City, April 9, 1852.

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It is my intention to preach several discourses this evening, but how many I do not know.

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I will in the first place bear testimony to the truth of many remarks made by brother Hunter, and especially his exhortation to the Seventies and Elders, and those men who wish to go on missions. I wish also to urge the necessity of your proceeding on your missions immediately, and of going to the place of your destination full of the Holy Ghost, preaching righteousness to the people; and while you do this, live up to the principles you preach, that you may teach also by your example, as well as by precept. Go, ye Elders, and now consider yourselves from this time forth missionaries. If the Gospel is in you like a flaming fire, to be poured upon the people, gather your neighbors together, and give your brethren an invitation to your house, and set before them the duties of man; and preach, if you can speak but for five minutes, occupying that time to the best advantage. Continue to preach, study, and learn, by faith and prayer, until your minds and mouths are opened, and you understand most perfectly the love of Christ.

If you feel prayer in you, pray; and if you feel the spirit of preaching in you, preach; call in your brethren, and read the Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Book of Covenants, and the other revelations of God to them; and talk over the things contained in those books, and deal them out to your brethren and neighbors; pray with them, and teach them how to control themselves; and let your teachings be sustained by your own example. Teach your families how to control themselves; teach them good and wholesome doctrine, and practise the same in your own lives. This is the place for you to become polished shafts in the quiver of the Almighty. This will answer for one sermon.

It is not uncommon for Elders to say, "If I could have a mission, and be sent among strangers, I could speak to them, because they have not been instructed in the way of life and salvation: I could lay before them the principles of the Gospel, which have been taught to me, without that difference of feeling, and fear, which I experience while speaking to my brethren." It is very true that the first principles of the Gospel taught by the Elders of this Church are easy to be understood, compared with what it is to preach them to our families, or to our neighborhood, and to govern and control ourselves by the principles of righteousness which the Gospel inculcates. Again, to gather the Saints, to preach the Gospel to the world, and convince them of the truth, are much easier tasks than to convince men that you can master yourself, and practise the moral principles inculcated by your religion. That is a small portion of the duty required of you in order to obtain crowns of glory, immortality, and eternal lives.

Let a Bishop, a High Priest, a President of any Stake or Quorum, any who are Elders in Israel, or any individual Saint from the first to the last of them, fall into error, and it is at once made manifest; he cannot pursue that course any further, for he is where lie can learn his duties, and know how to walk straight in the paths of righteousness. Here is the place for you to teach great mysteries to your brethren, because here are those who can correct you. This fault the Elders of Israel do not fall into in this Tabernacle, although they may in private houses and neighborhoods. When a man is capable of correcting you, and of giving you light, and true doctrine, do not get up an altercation, but submit to be taught like little children, and strive with all your might to understand. The privileges of those who dwell here are greater than the privileges of those who are abroad. When your duties call you into foreign lands, and you there exhaust your stock of knowledge and wisdom, and you are not in possession of the keys to obtain that instruction which you desire, it is because you are far from the right fountain--far from the body, where all the members are in lively operation--where the eye can see, the ear hear, the nose smell, and the mouth speak, and so forth. When your face is turned from the body, let mysteries alone, for this is the only place for you to be corrected if wrong. Preach the simple, unadorned truth; work out your salvation with diligence, and do that which will guarantee you a warranted deed, an undeniable title to eternal lives.

✡  I will here remark, that it is natural for the people to desire to know a great deal of the MYSTERIES; this, however, is not universally the case, though it is so with a great many of the Elders of Israel. I do not suppose it will apply to those who compose this congregation; your object in being here this evening is not to hear some great mystery of the Kingdom, which you never understood before. The greatest mystery a man ever learned, is to know how to control the human mind, and bring every faculty and power of the same in subjection to Jesus Christ; this is the greatest mystery we have to learn while in these tabernacles of clay. It is more necessary for the Elders to learn and practise upon this lesson in the midst of the Saints at head quarters than in the world; for their facilities for learning are much greater, and I will tell you wherein.

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I feel much inclined to talk to the brethren: I have not had the privilege of preaching much for some time, because of the inconvenience of our former meeting place. Now, as we have a good, convenient place to meet in, and my health will serve me, I expect to improve the time. I love to preach at home with the Saints. I love to meet with them, and look up on their happy countenances, lit up with the joys of eternity. In short. I love the society of all good men, and to preach salvation to them.

You are well aware that the wickedness of the world, or the apostacy of the Church, is so great, that those who now profess religion cannot enjoy their own natural privileges in the world. In many places their folly and superstition are so great that they would consider they had committed the sin of blasphemy if they happened to hear a violin. The whole world could not hire a good, honest, sound Presbyterian, of the old fashion and cut, to look into a room where a company of young men and women were dancing, lest they should sin against the Holy Ghost. This over-righteous notion is imbibed by the generality of professors of religion, but it is because they themselves have made it a sin. Let us look at the root of the matter. In the first place, some wise being organized my system, and gave me my capacity, put into my heart and brain something that delights, charms, and fills me with rapture at the sound of sweet music. I did not put it there; it was some other being. As one of the modern writers has said, "Music hath charms to soothe the savage breast." It has been proved that sweet music will actually tame the most malicious and venomous beasts, even when they have been stirred up to violent wrath, and make them docile and harmless as lambs. Who gave the lower animals a love for those sweet sounds, which with magic power fill the air with harmony, and cheer and comfort the hearts of men and so wonderfully affect the brute creation? It was the Lord, our heavenly Father, who gave the capacity to enjoy these sounds, and which we ought to do in His name, and to His glory. But the greater portion of the sectarian world consider it sacrilege to give way to any such pleasure as even to listen to sweet music, much more to dance to its delightful strains. This is another short sermon.

You may consider what I shall now lay before you a small matter; but I think it of some importance. When the Elders of Israel leave this place, and go forth among the wicked, it is not their privilege to mingle with them in any of their worldly exercises; for if they do, the devil will obtain an advantage over them, and succeed in drawing them away from the path of their duty. For instance--suppose you and I, with many more of the brethren, meet together in a convenient place in the Valley, and dance to the sweet strains of the violin; we could do so with a perfect good will: but if we should be called to England, and there have an invitation to join with the wicked in their pastimes and recreations, and we in our feelings bow down to this, and suffer our spirits to be subject to their commandments, we suffer ourselves to be ruled over by them, and at once become their servants.

Never suffer yourselves to mingle in any of those recreations that tend to sin and iniquity, while you are away from the body of the Church, where you cannot so fully control yourselves. Let the Elders who are going out from this place carry this instruction with them into the other portions of the earth. Whatever a man does, let him do it in the name of the Lord--let him work in the name of the Lord, let all his acts through life be in the name of the Lord; and if he wants light and knowledge, let him ask in that name.

✡  While I am here, I am in the midst of the Priesthood of heaven, and in the centre of the kingdom of God. We are before the Lord, where every hand I shake is the hand of a Saint, and every face I see, when I look upon the assembled thousands, is the countenance of a Saint. I am the controller and master of affairs here, under Heaven's direction; though there are those who do not believe this. I invite those who are not subject to me as their President, not to contaminate my friends; for were I and my friends to become subject to those who object to us, we are then on the ground of the devil, and subject ourselves to him they serve.

I bless you, and may the Lord bless you, in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

(Third Sermon)

I wish now to say a few words to the brethren upon the subject of tithing. It is well known to the majority of this Conference what transpired, last Conference, upon the stand in the old Bowery. At that Conference I had good cause to find fault with the Bishops, and I took the liberty to brush them down a little. From that day to this there has been more accomplished by our Bishops in the short space of seven months, than was accomplished by them for the space of years previously. This gives me great satisfaction. The Bishops have done as well as men could do: their conduct in fulfilling the duties of their calling has truly been praiseworthy, and I feel to bless them, and pray the Lord to bless them all the day long, for they have done first rate. When we consider the ignorance of the world, their unbelief in God, and realize that the vail of the covering is over the face of all nations, and remember the ignorance we were once in ourselves, having to commence like babes at the rudiments of learning, knowing also how faltering men are in their faith, and then look at what this people have accomplished, we are led to exclaim, "It is marvellous in our eyes!" Were I to say, "Elders of Israel, you that feel to put your all upon the altar, rise upon your feet," who would be left? [All present rose up simultaneously.] Where is there another people upon the earth who would have done this? I have no tithing, but all--all I have is the Lord's. You know the word sacrifice: as brother Banks said to-day, it is a mere burlesque--a nonsensical term. No man ever heard me say I had made a sacrifice. I possess nothing but what my heavenly Father has been pleased to give me, or, in other words, He has loaned it to me while I remain here in this mortal flesh.

As I was meditating on the philosophy of the day, it occurred to my mind how visible it must appear to all eyes that the Lord does indeed work, that it is He who blesses this people; and yet it seems as though they cannot see His hand. The Lord fills the immensity of space. What saith the Psalmist? "Whither shall I go from thy Spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? If I ascent up into heaven, thou art there; if I make my bed in hell, behold thou art there; if I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, even there shall thy hand lead me." I was trying to think of the place where God is not, but it is impossible, unless you can find empty space; and there I believe He is not. If you can find such a place, it will become useful for a hiding place to those who wish to hide themselves from the presence of the Lord, in the great day of accounts. I will close this sermon, as I intend to preach another before I present the subject I more particularly wish to speak upon.

Is it not marvellous, considering the weakness of man, to see the willingness of this whole people to die if necessary for the truth? How do you suppose it makes me feel? Though I may sometimes chastise my brethren, and speak to them in the language of reproof, there is not a father who feels more tenderly towards his offspring, and loves them better than I love this people; and my Father in Heaven loves them; my heart yearns over them with all the emotions of tenderness, so that I could weep like a child; but I am careful to keep my tears to myself. If you do wrong, it grieves my heart, and it also grieves the heart of my heavenly Father. I feel continually to urge my brethren to cease from all evil, and learn to do well.

The children of men are made as independent in their sphere as the Lord is in His, to prove themselves, pursue which path they please, and choose the evil or the good. For those who love the Lord, and do His will, all is right, and they shall be crowned, but those who hate His ways shall be damned, for they choose to be damned.

✡  The fulness of the heavens and the earth is the Lord's--the gold and the silver, the wheat, the fine flour, and the cattle upon a thousand hills; and when we fully understand His works, we shall know that He is in all the earth, and fulfills His will among the children of men, exalting and debasing them according to His pleasure; for the systems, creeds, thrones, and kingdoms of the world are all under His control. "Shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it"--or that He doth not control? The Lord controls the whole; and in the end, you will find He has regulated all things right, for all will be consummated to His glory.

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I will now again take up the subject of tithing. The brethren have done well. They have been willing and obedient, no people could have been more so; for this I thank my Father in Heaven. I could not wish a people to work more kindly in the yoke of Jesus than this people do; the yoke grows more and more easy to them. It seems that every man will not only pay his tithing, but give all he has, if the Lord requires it: still I see wherein they may do better. I asked the people to day to assist to pay our Church liabilities. The offer of three or four yoke of oxen only, we do not want; but I will lay before you what we wish you to do. By the manifesto which has been read, you have learned the precise situation of the property of the Church. What has incurred this debt? Why does it exist in the shape in which it now appears? And wherein could we have obviated the difficulty, and done better? A fourth part of the money already paid out, did not come in upon tithing. This money we have had to borrow in order to keep the public works in progress. You may say, wherein could we have done better, for we have paid our tithing punctually? But has that brother, who sent $100 back to the East for merchandize, paid $10 of it into the tithing office? Or did the brother who has sent $500 back, let us have $50? No; these have used it themselves, and thereby involved those who bear the responsibilities of the Trust. Again, those who have not possessed sufficient money to send back for merchandize, have been necessitated to pay out what they had. Thousands of dollars have been paid here for merchandize. Has one-tenth of all that money been paid into the tithing office? It has not. And where is the tithing that should have come in from England and California. Instead of tithing their money, they have used it for other purposes, and paid it in property, with which we could not pay our debts. This is wherein we have failed to liquidate our debts. The people go to these Gentile stores, on the Saturday, in crowds, to purchase goods. I think we shall not over-rate the amount, if we say that $500,000 has been paid, in these valleys, to the merchants. But suppose they have received no more than $50,000 from this community, $5,000 of that money ought to have been first paid into the tithing office and we could have sent it to the States, and purchased goods ourselves for one-third or one-half less than we have to pay the merchants here. And $25,000 more should have come into the tithing office from the Church in the United States. The brethren in California have made no less than $100,000, the tenth of which is due this tithing office. For want of this money, we are brought into bondage; and we must now apply our faith and works to raise means to liquidate our indebtedness, which has accumulated by purchasing goods at high and extortionate prices. I find no fault with the merchants, for they came here to gather gold by the hundred weight.

Let all the sheep stay in the Valley; also the cows; for they will give milk and butter, and replenish the stock. But when we speak of the horses, mules, and oxen, let every man look up his spare stock of this description, and with them help to liquidate these debts. Stock will now pay debts. I will use my stock for this purpose, and my brethren will do the same, until we have enough. I do not enjoin this upon you, as you have already paid the tithing which is required of you; except in some instances in the money tithing. Had we received the money due to us, we should have had no debts; but this failure has been, and is now, in existence. I will take every kind of spare stock I have, except my cows and sheep, and wipe off these debts until they are cancelled; and now every man who will do the same, let him rise upon his feet. [The whole congregation of two thousand men rose up to a man.] Do you suppose we want to deprive you of your teams? It is not so, but we wished to know the state of your faith, so that when we are ready to call upon you, we can be sure our call will be responded to. I would not cripple any man, I would rather give him five yoke of oxen, than destroy his team, and you know it. [Some of the brethren in the stand, not believing their own eyes, that the whole congregation rose, it was tried over again, to satisfy them, when the congregation all rose again to a man.] Brother Hunter now knows what to do. Many of the brethren are killing their calves; don't do this; if you cannot raise them, it will be better to give them away to those who can.

Now, brethren, and Bishops, look over this matter, and try to think what your feelings would be if you were laid under the same responsibility that I and my brethren have upon our shoulders. We are required to see the Gospel preached to the nations afar off, to build council houses and temples, to cope with the united wisdom and craft of legislative assemblies, and with the powers of darkness in high places; and then place yourselves in the circumstances we are now placed in! Besides all this, see the hundreds who come to us every day to be administered to in various ways: some want fruit, some sugar, others tea, and all want clothing, &c. Then step into our private rooms, where we commune with the people, and you will see and hear all this, and a great deal more. Instead of every man bringing his picayune, or his six pence, or his $5, &c., as tithing on the money in his possession, it is all used for something else, and the storehouse of the Lord is left empty. Suppose nothing had been put in there but what the people have put in, the workmen would have been naked. Walk into the storehouse, and examine for yourselves. To be sure there has been a little clothing put in lately; for instance, there was an old silk dress put in for $40, that had been lying for years rotting in the chest: this is a specimen of the rest. What are such things worth to our workmen? Why, nothing at all. We wish you to put in strong and substantial clothing. Good, strong, homemade stuffs make the most suitable clothing for those who are building up the public works.

It is not for any man to think he is a cipher--that what he can do will not tell in this matter, and say, "They will get along well enough without me;" but it is every man's duty to lay it to heart, and help what he can with his earthly substance; though I wish you to understand distinctly that it is no commandment--you are left to act freely.

✡  Will you help us out of this thraldom, and have it credited to your future tithing? There is already a great deal more due than would liquidate all our debts, but we cannot command it now. Do you feel willing to put your shoulder to the wheel, and continue to roll it forward, and still continue, you that have faith to continue, to increase in faith? for the business of this kingdom will increase, and the responsibility also; the labor will and must grow, and continue to increase, until the kingdoms of this world become the kingdom of our God and His Christ. So much on tithing; you see where the failure is; it is in that point, and nowhere else.

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My next sermon will be to both Saint and sinner.

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Treasure up these things in your hearts. In the Bible, you have read the things I have told you to-night; but you have not known what you did read. I have told you no more than you are conversant with; but what do the people in Christendom, with the Bible in their hands, know about this subject? Comparatively nothing.

One thing has remained a mystery in this kingdom up to this day.

I have given you a few leading items upon this subject, but a great deal more remains to be told. Now remember from this time forth, and forever, that Jesus Christ was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. I will repeat a little anecdote. I was in conversation with a certain learned professor upon this subject, when I replied, to this idea--"if the Son was begotten by the Holy Ghost, it would be very dangerous to baptize and confirm females, and give the Holy Ghost to them, lest he should beget children, to be palmed upon the Elders by the people, bringing the Elders into great difficulties."

It is in regard to the character of the well-beloved Son of God, upon which subject the Elders of Israel have conflicting views.

Again, they will try to tell how the divinity of Jesus is joined to his humanity, and exhaust all their mental faculties, and wind up with this profound language, as describing the soul of man, "it is an immaterial substance!" What a learned idea! Jesus, our elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same character that was in the garden of Eden, and who is our Father in Heaven. Now, let all who may hear these doctrines, pause before they make light of them, or treat them with indifference, for they will prove their salvation or damnation.

Our God and Father in heaven, is a being of tabernacle, or, in other words, He has a body, with parts the same as you and I have; and is capable of showing forth His works to organized beings, as, for instance, in the world in which we live, it is the result of the knowledge and infinite wisdom that dwell in His organized body. His son Jesus Christ has become a personage of tabernacle, and has a body like his father. The Holy Ghost is the Spirit of the Lord, and issues forth from Himself, and may properly be called God's minister to execute His will in immensity; being called to govern by His influence and power; but He is not a person of tabernacle as we are, and as our Father in Heaven and Jesus Christ are.

It is true that the earth was organized by three distinct characters, namely, Eloheim, Yahovah, and Michael, these three forming a quorum, as in all heavenly bodies, and in organizing element, perfectly represented in the Deity, as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

The question has been, and is often, asked, who it was that begat the Son of the Virgin Mary. The infidel world have concluded that if what the Apostles wrote about his father and mother be true, and the present marriage discipline acknowledged by Christendom be correct, then Christians must believe that God is the father of an illegitimate son, in the person of Jesus Christ! The infidel fraternity teach that to their disciples.

I have heard men preach upon the divinity of Christ, and exhaust all the wisdom they possessed. All Scripturalists, and approved theologians who were considered exemplary for piety and education, have undertaken to expound on this subject, in every obliged to conclude by exclaiming "great is the mystery of godliness," and tell nothing.

I will tell you how it is.

I could tell you much more about this; but were I to tell you the whole truth, blasphemy would be nothing to it, in the estimation of the superstitious and over-righteous of mankind. However, I have told you the truth as far as I have gone.

Our Father in Heaven begat all the spirits that ever were, or ever will be, upon this earth; and they were born spirits in the eternal world. Then the Lord by His power and wisdom organized the mortal tabernacle of man. We were made first spiritual, and afterwards temporal.

They came here, organized the raw material, and arranged in their order the herbs of the field, the trees, the apple, the peach, the plum, the pear, and every other fruit that is desirable and good for man; the seed was brought from another sphere, and planted in this earth. The thistle, and thorn, the brier, and the obnoxious weed did not appear until after the earth was cursed. When Adam and Eve had eaten of the forbidden fruit, their bodies became mortal from its effects, and therefore their offspring were mortal. When the Virgin Mary conceived the child Jesus, the Father had begotten him in his own likeness. He was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. And who is the Father? He is the first of the human family; and when he took a tabernacle, it was begotten by his Father in heaven, after the same manner as the tabernacles of Cain, Abel, and the rest of the sons and daughters of Adam and Eve; from the fruits of the earth, the first earthly tabernacles were originated by the Father, and so on in succession.

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  • Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner!
    • When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world.
    • He is MICHAEL, the Archangel, the ANCIENT OF DAYS! about whom holy men have written and spoken--HE is our FATHER and our GOD, and the only God with whom WE have to do.
  • Every man upon the earth, professing Christians or non-professing, must hear it, and will know it sooner or later.

INTRODUCTION:

NOTIFICATION:

QUESTION:

What is the Adam God Theory?

ANSWER:

It concerns the origin and destiny of God and Man.

It is about conquering death at every level or degree that life exist or shall exit.

It presents the idea that God started the human race by procreation after creating the heavens and the earth.

It says that every person on this earth was sired and begotten of a woman.

It says that women are as much a part of the origin of man as God.

It says the first human beings of this earth were born here.

It says that Adam and Eve were brought here from another earth like planet along with seeds.

It says that Cain and Abel are types or figures of the battle between truth and falsehoods or Jesus and Satan.

It says that all earths in all the universe were started by an Adam and an Eve and the book of Genesis' account of creation is the typical example of populating an earth like planet such as ours.

It says that Adam has a Grandfather who lived or lives on a planet like our Earth.

It is deprogramming, if you do not have suffient pre-knowledge to understand it. Warning: it will deprogram you, if your mental tools are not fully developed.

It is the derivitive/integral of the Endowment by the Calculus of the Gospel.

It is part of a thinking system embedded in the Endowment.

It is a thinking system.

QUESTION:

What is a thinking system?

ANSWER:

A thinking system is a memorized pattern or model guiding the enterprise of thought. It is trained metacognition that is either self-taught or externally educated. It is a schema. It is the knowledge of "how to control the human mind, and bring every faculty and power of the same in subjection to Jesus Christ" and is the greatest of mysteries to learn while in this life. In the context of this webpage: examples could be such as:

QUESTION:

Why research the Adam God Theory by self study?

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QUESTION:

Why is the Adam God Theory not taught openly?

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QUESTION:

Why is it difficult to find authoritative research on the Adam God Idea?

ANSWER:

Trying to find what Brigham actually taught is a task that seems to be avoided by most members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints. There is a fear that he actually taught from the position of the First Presidency, a doctrine that is not sustainable in todays views. Or, there is a denial, that persist to maintain a doctrinal simplicity that is easier to teach on a global scale. However, this may be, there is great profundity in the advanced teachings of Brigham Young, for during the time he was introducing this view (1852 April Adam God Theory existed before Joseph Smiths death 1844) of creation, the theory of evolution by Charles Darwin was being promoted and generated acceptance in the academic circles (1844 to 1859 November the date of publication of "Origin of Species"). Perhaps the Adam God Theory is the best answer yet to the secular humanist view of man as a product of the evolutionary soup of the primal beginnings of earth as seen by todays Godless social movements that will promote a moral degradation. This degrades man as a product of nature and not a descendant of an advance being.

COMMENT FROM A READER FOLLOWS:

Dear Mr. Hall,

Thank you for correcting the link. I will look over it when I have time. I might point out a couple of items, though, which will prevent me from responding to it once I finish.

First was your comment that you would not enter into debate over the subject. That being the case, why even bother me with the link? I do not send you unsolicited materials and ask you to consider them, but then state up front that I will not engage in any debate over them. That is very arrogant.

Second, you limited your consideration of the subject to one sermon only - the first one on the subject. That is a very narrow view, since many other sermons and writings show us in greater detail just exactly what Mr. Young meant when he taught that doctrine. To leave them aside is to ignore his own clarifications on the subject. That is not a very scholarly approach to study or research, and it leads only to erroneous conclusions.

Finally, you refuse to accept his teachings as "scripture", since it was not put to a public vote. I would remind you of Brigham Young's own comments on this matter. From the Deseret Weekly News (June 6, 1877) page 274, "When I have spoken by the power of God and the Holy Ghost, it is the truth, it is scripture, and I have no fears but that it will agree with all that has been revealed in every particular." In case you wonder whether the sermon Brigham Young preached that you refer to falls into this category, I also offer the following from Journal of Discourses 13:95, again quoting Brigham Young, "I have never yet preached a sermon and sent it out to the children of men, that they may not call scripture." It seems Brigham Young did not feel he needed the vote of the people to call his remarks scripture. He considered them to be anyway, so we can consider them so as well.

Thank you for your e-mail. May God bless you with a true understanding rather than blind excuses about the errors of Mormonism, I pray in His name.

ANSWER:

May I place your response in my web page of FAQ if you give permission. I will not edit it except to remove your name and email address if you so choose. Also I do not debate as this technique chooses a side to an issue and explores by logical dichotomy. I will discuss this topic so as to gain a level of mutual discovery. Debate wins an argument. I want to win in truth. At any rate the points you make will be considered and answered in the FAQ anonymously if you do not reply. I also said "Any who attempt to damn me to old ideas that prove to be birthing pangs to new ideas, I now QUESTION: their motives. As I delight in the ever newing truth."

The Christian concept of cannonization is the same as standard works of the church for the LDS membership. Therefore Brigham Young never entered his sermon concept into the Standard Works or in general the body of the sustained scriptures of the Church. Any inspired statement by an authority of the Church is in some respects "scripture" but is not in the same level as say the Book of Mormon.

This thesis stays within the confines of theory. But theory in the Doctrine and Covenants has a surprising meaning; to some, which is -- theory is perfecting to the believer. See for reference D&C 88:78 "... that you may be instructed more perfectly in theory, in principle, in doctrine, in the law of the gospel ...." Notice the order of instruction is first theory, then principle, and third doctrine.

Truth and light do not require a sustaining vote in the Church. Therefore the real QUESTION: remains whether Brigham presented the truth in "His Theory" and whether it contains the principles of light to the mind.

Thank you for your communication. james

QUESTION:

Does the Adam God Theory limit God making God just a man?

ANSWER:

Most Religions including Christianity limit God, making Him incapable of creating a duplicate of Himself. He can create anything except Satan and another God as powerful as Himself. God has limits such as He cannot lie. God cannot break a promise. God cannot deceive man. But God has set the "flaming sword to guard the way of the tree of life to prevent man from acheiving immortality in his sins thus making man the tranhumanist dream come true. God limits Himself so He can deligate His attributes to his children. God limits Himself so man can have free will and a moral agency.

The constitution of the United States of America is a limiting document design to prevent a totalitarian government. God is All Powerful therefore we must not be free. But God limits Himself that we may be both tested and free. Some say why does God let all these things happen? He is letting us solve our own problems for a test and for our free agency. Perhaps the greatest miracle of all is that God can limit what influence He has over all things. The Adam God Theory will engender in man a greater sense of these freedoms that God has extended for our own developments. The war in heaven was over the eternal battle of 'security vs freedom' Lucifer offered assured salvation where Jesus provided a continuation of the Fathers limited government and self development and the opportunity to overcome the risks of life by taking upon us his name. The God who is Always all powerful is responsible for complete destiny and choices of man. The Adam God Theory is like the constitution of the United States we must defend ourself by keeping the commandments of God. This is the Salvation that requires our own initiative. Satan in the last days will offer security if we surrender our salvation. This is the chains of Hell. Jesus will return again when man has gone as he can go on his own. Then He will assist us to the next level to prepare the earth for the return of the FATHER.

QUESTION:

Does the Mormon concept that 'God was once a man' make God too feeble to save mankind or have any sway in the universe?

ANSWER:

All who think that the Mormon God is lessened because of His origin does not understand the hope this knowledge gives the faithful. Many would build up God beyond His real station to assuage their own fears of living in this world. By exaggerating the nature and origin of God there is the bombastic display before the fearful that the All Powerful can take care of any fear even with no effort on their own part. Truly God is All Powerful in every respect even to the lessons that we must learn for having been sent to this earth to experience mortality. This hope is animated within each of us due to the great Model and Example of The Father and His Son. Simply if Our Father Who was once a man as we are now, succeeded to such great heights then we, if given the same light and knowledge, could achieve the same. Jesus is the Example of How this is done. Contrary to even some mormons of modern orientation Jesus is just like all of us and worked out his own mission on earth as we should. He started from humble beginnings and grew in grace and truth to inherit the mantle of the Great Jehovah. Truly angels helped him on the way to His final ascension with His God and Our God and His Father and Our Father. Why would angels be needed to help an one already God as some purports. Those who understand the Law of Eternal Progression see the place of Eternal Proxy Subrogration to provide Regents to act in our behalf until we can go on our own and do likewise. From whence then does these doctrines come. A God who was once a man and we are His progeny ennobles each man. A God who has always been a God put man in his place as a creature destined and predestined by His fashioner. This is a big government view where each is a subject to a species apart such as the Noble of Europe considered themselves to be above those who they ruled and taxed. If by being children of God we then are all noble by birthright. God as a man once does away with the so called divine right of kings. But then who should rule then that there may be order. Jesus of course is the only one who has this right by merit of His great work in Judea. One of the lowliest angels in heaven could with ease defeat the whole armies of the earth. God is so much more than all the angels put together and lacks nothing to save. As He has declared that He is mighty to save. The war for mens minds will polarize to two camps. One camp will have a Cosmic Savior that guarantees security at the expense of freedom. The other camp will have the meek and lowly Savior that entreats by restraint and governs teaching correct principles specifying that freedom means that risks follow as the price of freedom. Indeed the political arenas of the earth will also so polarize. God having been a man once in nowise means He can not save to the uttermost degree. Those who think so lack understanding of their own origin.

INFORMATION:

QUESTION:

In the Adam God Theory there are reference to the 'Calculus of the Gospel', how did this idea come about?

ANSWER:

Actually the 'reasoning of Abraham' was mentioned by Joseph Smith and this gave me the idea that infinite subjects could be dealt with in this way in much the same manner as mathematic does with limits. When the worlds without numbers are considered as creations multiply and replenish, some higher order of thought is needed to capacitate the mind to think in such terms. Perhaps my interest in math gave me this metaphor to discuss the principles found in the Adam God Theory. Obviously the concept of the origin of God or even the origin of man require this assistance. To understand the commandments of God require us to understand where we came from and where we are going according to the things we do here and now.

Also two other thought principles are useful and needed in dealing with the infinite or apparently contradictory ideas . One is the "De Morgans Theorem" which connects two different logics together by a translating formula. The second is the difference between a stupor and cognitive dissonance. Many mistake the dissonance experience with stupor which is where one senses something is not true by insight or intuition. Adam God theory requires two perspectives and two logics to handle-- without these it can cause mental/spiritual dissonance.

QUESTION:

What is meant by the phrase "Calculus of the Gospel?"

ANSWER:

The "Adam God Theory" is base upon mathematical principles that are found in the higher math where infinite series and digression's limits are determined or integrated. Those who study the Calculus should find a familiar tone and tenor to the Adam God Theory propositions. If those who live on other planets were to visit, it would be found that the universal language of the universe would be numbers and mathematical principles. Like the elements that make up the constituents of all things they are eternal and consistent from all levels of existence. All truth is independent in the sphere in which it is created math is the sphere of the Adam God Theory and there is the principle of the de Morgan theorem, theory of limits, differentiation, integration, series, logic. A math major in not necessary to understand the "Green Book" but it helps. There is a leap of logic that takes place when one advances from the arithmetic to the algebra and from the algebra to the Calculus. Likewise there is the leap of faith and logic going from allegory of creation to the Adam God Theory. It is like the gemetria in Hebrew.

QUESTION:

Are Mormons Christians?

ANSWER:

This QUESTION: is like asking if women are men. Women and Men are both of the same species of mankind. Mormons have a faith in Christ and believe in God the Father. Mormons accept Joshua bar Joseph the son of Mary the Messiah or in Greek Jesus Christ as the Son of God and as a literal descendant of God. The Nicene Christian take Jesus Christ as God in the Flesh or a manifestation of God to man, as God is a Mystery unless revealed to man in a form man can understand which is a Man in Perfection. Mormons or members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are definitely not Nicene Christians. Nor do they subscribe to any of the Nicene Creed of A. D. 325 that is not true. If a mormon uses the word 'trinity', it is a sign that he is either using the word loosely or is ignorant of his own doctrine. European Christianity can be traced to the city of Nicaea or Nice in Asia Minor. Mormons accept that they too are a child of God and a brother of Jesus their Savior. This is a family relationship where the Patriarch is God the Father in the most profound sense of meaning. Mormon Christianity can be traced to Joseph Smith who has testified that he saw two separated and distinct personages who are God the Father and Jesus Christ His Son. God introduced His Son to Joseph and was instructed to take instruction from His Son. This means that Jesus has full commission to represent the Father in all things. Mormons believe in Jesus as the Word or Messenger of God in all respects but know that the Father has delegated all Power and Priesthood to His Son to finish the work of bringing to pass the resurrection and perfection of man for the Glory of the Father. Eventually with the progress of mankind to fulfill the purposes of God, Man himself will be endowed with this same Power and Priesthood to continue this Eternal Work. Mormons believe that God the Father has a body of flesh and bones and is spiritually sustained to live forever where mans body has a time and is sustained by chemistry of blood. Man dies where God lives on. Mormons Christians are part of a family of heaven and come here to earth by means of procreation. Nicene Christians are creatures of God the Creator and are made here on earth by creation. Since man comes from a family and family values are sustained by its doctrine they will see family relations in their deity. Likewise the Nicene Christian will see man as a product of God and will see the created relations in their deity.

QUESTION:

How do you account for the story of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden in view of the Adam God Theory?

ANSWER:

The Adam and Eve Story is a metaphor or a similitude of the pre-existent state of man. Adam and Eve represent the Creative Origin of man. Cain represents Lucifer and later becomes Satan as a vagabond and fugitive on the run on earth. Abel represents the mortal Messiah and the atonement. Seth the replacement of Abel represents the resurrection of Jesus. The battle over the offerings to be accepted by Cain and Abel is a type of the War in Heaven over the Plan of Salvation. Since Abel a keeper of flocks was accepted by faith in the Messiah. Where Cain is the offering the products of the earth or vegetables we see the two plans that were given to the Father in the pre-existence. Lucifers being cast out and becoming Satan is the type of Cain being cursed. This type is through out the book of Genesis. But as with all the types and parables of the scriptures there is parallel meanings in these teachings and even multi- layered meanings. The Adam God Theory only highlights one of these layers of meaning in a metaphoric way. Adam is God is a Metaphor to help us understand where we came from!

QUESTION:

Was Eve a clone of Adam?

ANSWER:

Since this web page is to answer questions concerning the Adam God Theory, the answer will be given from that perspective first. No. Eve was born on another planet and brought here. She is one of Michaels wives. Before Michael became Adam She was married and sealed to Michael in some pre-Earth world. Therefore She is His eternal companion. The Brick Theory is that Adam was created from inanimate matter or dust. In this case God elected to make Eve Secondarily from flesh and bone or perhaps from Adams DNA. This suggest that at least one of our ancestors was a clone. Of course God has the knowledge and technology to clone humans. But the pattern was set for each of us to procreate. Without the Adam God Theory some persons are created, 'cloned', and the rest are procreated. In the Adam God Theory all persons are procreated even Adam and Eve. This difference between creation of people and procreation of people is the hinge between the Adam God Theory and all the rest of the rationalizations concerning the origin of Man.

QUESTION:

1 Corinthians 15:45-47
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

If Jesus is the second Adam, and since the first Adam was married, was the second/last Adam married or was Jesus married?

ANSWER:

This question will be answered rabinically with three questions.

John 5:19
19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

If the Father has a son, does Jesus have a son?

Genesis 1:27-28
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Did Jesus keep this commandment?

Do any of the scriptures say definitively that Jesus was not married?

QUESTION:

What is faith?

ANSWER:

COMMENT: Knowledge is not only infinite but greatly infinite in scope! Some means and a way must be used to approach this grand sea of knowledge spoken of in Isaiah. Isaiah 11:9 "They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea". Knowledge of the universe is also a subset of this infinity. But to know of God is to know about the knower of all the knowledge of the universe. Metacognition is the ability to think about thinking. Metaknowledge is the knowledge of knowledge. This is an infinite recursion into knowing about knowing. God or the Perfect Man can know about all of the knowledge of the universe. God also knows all about the knowledge of His knowledge. How is this possible--but through faith. Where ever there is a frontier of knowledge there will be prayer and faith. Faith is the 'exploring mind set' to uncover mystery and the unknown. In the FUTURLOGICS faith is defined as the 'ability to do the best with the least'. The 'least' is our own standing or starting point of knowledge, knowing what we do know now to use this to pioneer the frontiers of knowledge. A faithful person will have many metaphors, types, parables, examples, controversies, contradictions, paradoxes, detected counterfeits, etc. as a tool kit to face this 'great sea'. Faith enables the navigators of the sea to find his way and reach the islands of Enlightenment and Truth. These islands are there ready to receive these sailors of this great sea of knowledge with rest. They are the Faithful of the Lord.

The atheist claims to know there is no god. Has he been everywhere to check!? The Universe is infinite! An honest atheist can only be an agnostic when he is humble enough to admit his limitations. A faithful person always admits there is a God because faith goes beyond the observation limits of the atheist. The atheist says there is no god because I have not seen him. The faithful says I know there is a god because my faith is growing and my knowledge is increasing. There are atheist who will not admit there is a god even if god introduces himself--because of their mind set.

                                     Alma 32:21
          21 And now as I said concerning faith--faith is not to have a
          perfect knowledge of things; therefore if ye have faith ye hope
          for things which are not seen, which are true.

QUESTION:

What is the thirteen month war in the book of Revelations?

ANSWER:

The hebrew calendar was lunar. Because of this a Thirteen month year was used to correct the lunar months with the solar year. Perhaps the 13 months refers to a year to begin new again so seasons are in the right place. What I am saying is that this war could be a correcting war for the purposes of sychronizing events in the last days in preparation of the coming of the Lord. It may be any duration of time. Those who attempt to interpret the scriptures should beware of being bit by their own dog. I am not against interpreting the scriptures as a personal endeavor. I once read and believed that Heb 11:1 was to be interpreted as "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for" to mean "Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for" I believed this for 20 years until it was discovered that the "substance" referred to the sap layer in bark where the living part of the tree is found. It is the storage area of the tree to enable the tree to live the winter months. Isaiah 6:13 says " . . . as a teil tree and as an oak whose substance is in them . . ." Also one need only look at Heb 10:34 where it mentions ". . . better and an enduring substance." Of course it means the "food storage that gives us assurance" Like our two years supply is a substance like the "cambium layer of bark" to us during hard times. Joseph Smith translated this as assurance. But deeper investigation shows that assurance is the extract of bark that was used for medicine in those days so the interpretation goes full circle. Faith is everywhere compared to plant growth and a seeding. So why would it surprise us that Paul did the same here. Oh the word evidence in the remaining part of Heb 11:1 "the evidence of things not seen." Also to translate the Heb 11:1 correctly it would read as thus. "Now faith is the "living bark" of things hoped for , the sprout of things not seen." I am only saying that the thirteen month war may mean more than the literal thirteen months. Lunar months that is-- because the Jew did not have thirty day months.

QUESTION:

What Thinking System is recommend to start?

ANSWER:

To start memorize The Sermon on the Mount , it will become the ground zero of all thinking systems.

Next consider the book The Pyramids of God , Thinking Paradigms of Light and Truth

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The following is taken from Pyramids of God (c) 2007 as a summary:

AFTERWORD:

THE FUTURE OF THE PYRAMIDS

This treatise is an application of FUTURLOGICS a system of prospective thinking. FUTURLOGICS or something like FUTURLOGICS a System of Prospective Thinking , will be used, in the near future, to teach children light and truth and how to think. Perhaps it will be with the Pyramids of God.

The authors believe that the SERMON ON THE MOUNT is the foundation of all thinking systems. It is the foundation of FUTURLOGICS . It is the thinking system, if understood. As the personification of that sermon is followed, who is Jesus of Nazareth, the spirit of man, the mind of man, the heart of man, the strength of man, will surely awaken to great intelligence. Indeed, we will realize our heritage as the children of god.

Since the first printing of Pyramids of God in 2007 the authors' book:

SEARCH ISAIAH

חפש ישעיהו

PYRAMID ZERO

The Witness and Poetry of Isaiah

Copyright © 2010

by

james n. hall with Julie O. Hall

has been published to continue the Pyramids of God by its application upon the Book of Isaiah. The Book of Isaiah is Pyramid Zero. It was found and explained that Isaiah used paradigms and poetic menorahs to express his prophecies concerning the future of Israel and Judah in particular. This 333 page book reveals the power of this technique by illuminating the writings of the premier prophet Isaiah.

Further information will be found at: http://www.hiddenpoetry.com/isaiah.html

PYRAMIDS OF GOD Page 113 ~ Thinking Paradigms of Light and Truth

QUESTION:

ANSWER:

QUESTION:

What is the difference between this thesis in book The Adam God Theory and the other explanations of Brigham's Teachings?

ANSWER:

There can be seven general approaches to explain ADAMS role in creation of man itemized as follows:

First Theory Version

Adam was created from this earth's dust and after having been formed was given the breath of life. He then fell and became the father of this worlds mortality. Eve was created from "Adam's rib" in a literal sense as if she were a female clone of Adam.

Second Theory Version

Adam was the third member of a Presidency of Heaven and was given life after a long sleep. His origin varies according to the belief in the role that His Father had in his coming to life and receiving the breath of life. He fell through a divine plan for the salvation of mankind in this earth trial. (Essentially this is a magic view as Adam appears as if by magic as if it is just "accepted" God placed Adam in his position with no importanance assign to the knowledge of his origin. 2003 addition)

Third Theory Version

Adam is a Son of God in a literal sense. His Father is conceived as a Senior Adam and He is a Junior Adam. This makes the introduction of mankind after the fall a two phase event. It was Adam Junior who fell and died. It seems to suggest there is a Senior Jehovah and a Senior Eloheim; Or, it seems to suggest Senior Adam is Eloheim.

Fourth Theory Version

Adam is and was the God who was the Savior from a previous earth and received life in Himself such that He could die and live at will. This version put Adam as a Son of an Adam who is a Son of an Adam ad infinitum. The fall was merely a process of creation and was not a transgression of law but a kind of miracle we only could understand if we were likewise to be given life in oneself.

Fifth Theory Version

Adam was Michael who was chosen in the pre-existent counsels and was a spirit personage. A person with a body was needed to do the work for Michael to start the Human Race. This substitution is referred to as "Eternal Proxy Subrogation." This vicarious work is the basis of the thesis in The Adam God Theory by the author james n. hall (c) 1986 STP newer printing 2014. FUTURLOGICS is used here to research the ideas that explain THE ADAM GOD THEORY .

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Sixth Theory Version

This theory is a result of rejecting the original views and propositions of Brigham Young and the effort to replace it with an 'idea' that builds a 'Cosmic' Christ. In this view the pre-mortal Christ is the creator of man's body. The Father is somewhat eclipsed such as the moon eclipses the sun. Since the Atonement of Christ is infinite in its defined effect; it is to save people of the other earths in the cosmos. In this version the reason Christ chose this Earth to come to do His atonement is that it is the wickedest of all creations. By overcoming this Earth the atonement will be more effective to the Universe of Earths less wicked. This 'idea' uses the principle that Christ descended below all things to be above all things. (added 2003)


Link to:
Wickedest Earth Idea Text

Seventh Theory Version

This version proposes that no one knows what Brigham meant. The downside of this version is that it makes Brigham a poor teacher. The upside of this version is that we can suspend discussion over the matter until we can get a mind that is the equal of Brigham to explain what he meant. It is treated as an anomaly.

Eighth Theory Version

This version proposes that Brigham was wrong. This sets up logical oscillations and a vortex of authority wars. Here is an example from Bruce R. McConkie.

QUESTION:

Why study both LDS general versions of the Adam and God ideas of Brigham Young and Orson Pratt/Joseph F. Smith in the Adam God Theory?

ANSWER:

The "Orson Pratt/Joseph F. Smith" version of the explanation of Adam's role or the Divine Investiture of Authority version is necessary to develop the Left Side of the Brain, or for the logical rational functions.

The "Brigham Young" version of the explanation of Adam's role or the Eternal Proxy Subrogation version or "Regents" version is necessary to develop the Right Side of the Brain, or for the generalizing creative functions.

To be determined to use only one perspective defeats the total mind development that embracing both version will provide.

REPEATING AGAIN:
The Adam God Theory is disruptive to education that has been obtained
through classic study. There is much less logical disturbance in learning it
if the learner is self-educated or self-taught. Creative thinking methods
are required to understand the dual-perspective/tri-perspective thinking
system embedded in the theory or doctrine as it were. Brigham Young and
Joseph Smith Jr. were self-taught and self-educated to a greater degree.
The principles learned through their type of self-teaching will be required
to understand their point of view in this subject. Right Brain thinking is
required along with Left Brain thinking. Understanding comes with the
linking Corpus Callosum thinking--metaphorically speaking. Current
modern education specializes in Left Brain thinking, typical of Orson Pratt.
Education gained through formal method aside from self-teaching, setup
the confounding of the mind with the Adam God Proposition, because classic
formal education is externally conditioned learning.

The tri-perspective third component is that we are Adam or a Michael ourselves, or ones to "become such," The Corpus Callosum of thinking, if we learn to THINK as in the following mystery:

REPEATING AGAIN Brigham Young:
The greatest mystery a man ever learned, is to know how to
control the human mind, and bring every faculty and power of the
same in subjection to Jesus Christ; this is the greatest mystery
we have to learn while in these tabernacles of clay.

The Brigham Young version is like a movie with many frames, or many still shots presented in a flowing sequence. Adam is the common denominator of all the flowing frames. ⋁  (Insight)

The Joseph F. Smith version is like a still snap shot of just one frame by which all the dynamics of eternity must be seen in one suspended frame. There is no sequence presented. ∟  (Intuition)

We must see all in frozen frame at times; and also, we must see all in motion like a movie durring other times. This is how we think or this is how we should think. This is how we synthesize and analize.

Proxy work is the means by which these two views can be married together for full mental development. (DMP)


The Meaning of DMP is taken from FUTURLOGICS (c) 2014 page 23.

QUESTION:

What is this FUTURLOGICS ? How does is help crack the code to the ADAM GOD thing?

ANSWER:

SUMMARY EXCERPTS FROM ADAM GOD THEORY

quotes:

page 62

The Adam God theory is neither true nor false. It also can neither be proved nor disproved. It is only a theory and really therefore just a thinking system. Can the function behind thought be called true or untrue as we can think of both the true and the false with the same mind? It therefore is a mental view and/or a functional perspective. What is important is not the theory itself but what is seen through this bipolar form of thinking.

page 68

The apparent version or "this earth only" reckoning necessitates the Divine Investiture of Authority to explain to a degree the oneness in the principle of Christ when referencing the Son as Jehovah. (See Articles of Faith, by James E. Talmage, Appendix 2, page 471 from "The Father and Son: A Doctrinal Exposition" by the First Presidency and the Twelve.)

The seen version or the "worlds without number" view likewise necessitates the Eternal Proxy Subrogation to explain to a degree the oneness in the principle of Christ when referencing the Father as Jehovah.

Endquote.

These two apparently opposing view points are like DMP in the FUTURLOGICS . The Divine Investiture of Authority is like Direct Mental Process of FUTURLOGICS in characteristics. The Eternal Proxy Subrogation is like Direct Mind Perception of FUTURLOGICS in characteristics. DMP is both at once. This bipolar view(s) is the result of solving the Adam God Theory controversy. It was very intriguing to me that a religion should have such a biocular view point as in it's original teachings of Brigham Young, who was tutored by a prophet.

A thinking system helps the study of the scriptures or any QUESTION: concerning it. FUTURLOGICS is a way of studying it out in your mind. This has been suggested in the Doctrine and Covenants. I have taken this advice so seriously. This passage is quoted below:

 D&C 9:7
 7 Behold, you have not understood; you have supposed that I would
 give it unto you, when you took no thought save it was to ask me.
 D&C 9:8
 8 But, behold, I say unto you, that you must study it out in your
 mind; then you must ask me if it be right, and if it is right I
 will cause that your bosom shall burn within you; therefore, you
 shall feel that it is right.
 D&C 9:9
 9 But if it be not right you shall have no such feelings, but you
 shall have a stupor of thought that shall cause you to forget the
 thing which is wrong; therefore, you cannot write that which is
 sacred save it be given you from me.
 D&C 9:10
 10 Now, if you had known this you could have translated;
 nevertheless, it is not expedient that you should translate now.

Note the burning vs the stupor both come from deity. There appears to be a possibility that the better the study method the better the communication to be received.

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ANSWER:

QUESTION:

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Entry August 15,2001 Clarified the five general theories of Adam's origin.
Entry August 29,2001 Explanation of Calculus of the Gospel.
Entry November 2,2001 Thirteen month war in Revelations
Entry January 30,2002 Adam God Theory base on math principles.
Entry March 1,2002 Adam God Theory gives freedom principles.
Entry March 22,2002 God was once a man is inspiring.
Entry June 29,2002 Comment on faith.
Entry July 13,2002 Answer on clone of Eve.
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