[This document about Adam God was offered on the internet a few years ago. I do not know it's author, but would surely give them credit if they simply write me. plporter@pobox.com The Adam God document arrived to me in a Zip format and seemed to have duplicate sections. I cleaned it up as much as I could. I added the (sp. ____) where I noticed misspelled words. Also British or old world spellings were retained as in the original. Underlining is also maintained from the original. The table that is linked here and at the bottom was originally at the top, but due it's length, I put it on a separate Adam God page.]
"Concepts & Quotations Dealing with the Origin, Identity & Position of Adam & Eve"
101. James Beck Journal (Notebook) 1859-1865; October 8th 1861. Spelling as in original.
Conference Mett (sp. met) in the Tabernacle Bro W. W. Phelps said Joseph Smith said that Eve had 28 sons & 28 daughters & that Adam had many wives--Bro Brigham than got into the stand & stated the same thing. He then gave some instructions in relation to sealing He said that there were many men & women who after having been sealed to each other for time & all Eternity--came to him for a Bill of Divorce. & for the sum of 10 Dollors (sp. Dollars) he gave them a Bill Because the Lord permitted it but it was of no use to them. They might just as well tear off a Peice (sp. piece) of their shirt tail or have a Peice (sp. piece) of Blank Paper for a Divorce. But on account of the hardness of their hearts, the Lord permitted it, as it was in the days of Moses. But there was a way in which a woman could leave a man lawfully. When a woman becomes alienated in her feelings & affections from her husband-it is then his duty to give her a Bill & set her free which would be fornication for the man to cohabit with his wife after she had thus become alienated from him. The children begotten of such a woman would be Bastards in the true Scriptural term of the word Fornication, for the crime of adultry (sp. adultery) a woman (& also men) would be stoned to Death & then come up in the morning of the Resurection (sp. Resurrection) & Claim all of her rights & Privledges (sp. Privileges) in the marriage covenant. Also there was another way in which a woman could leave a man-if the woman Preferred--another man higher in authority & he is willing to take her, & her husband gives her up-there is no Bill of divorce required in the case it is right in the sight of God. But if he ever after has any connexion (sp. connection) with her, he is then guilty of committing a very great sin & will be Punished accordingly. If a Man is faithfull (sp. faithful) & should his wife leave him & be married to another without his consent there is no Power in heaven or on Earth that can Prevent him from claiming her in the Resurrection. If faithfull (sp. faithful) a Man will attain to an Adam & the Wife to be an Eve & begat Millions of Spirits who will come forth & receive their Tabernacles upon an earth like this &c- The glory of the Man is the woman, And the glory of the woman is her Virginity-Men are the Lords of Creation & the Responsibility rests upon the man & not upon the woman-all women will be saved after they have sufferred (sp. suffered) & atoned for their sins & thus satisfied the ends of Justice they will not become angels to the Devil. The Curse Placed upon the woman is that her desire shall be to her husband she shall long & Desire for him & will not wish to be suplanted (sp. supplanted) by another & in sorrow & in Pain she shall bring forth her offspring, if it was not for this curse, the woman would bring forth as easy as she would drink a glass of water. The curse upon the man is that he shall labour (sp. labor) to support his family by the sweat of his brow &c & he has to be tormented with thorns & briars sunflowers & all kinds of noxious weeds. Is there any way for a man & his wife to committ (sp. commit) sin in the mariage (sp. marriage) state-there is. It is for us to cultivate the Principles of life which God has Planted in us & not for us to Destroy life by an unlawfull (sp. lawful) intercourse with each other, but for us to multiply & Replenish the Earth as God has enjoined upon us. Only one man to my knowledge has heard this Read besides myself & that was Bro Campkin [lin?] 17th ward. Joseph Smith said that the 2 Prophets who would Prophesy in the streets of Jerusalem for 3 years & a half, were Enoch & Elijh. Also the two wings north & South of our earth were inhabited. the north with the 9-1/2 tribes & the south wing by the People of Enochs City--this Earth when first created occupied a Position next to Kolob the highest in glory of all the Creations consequently on account of the high Position we once occupied we have fallen below all of the others in space--consequently our sufferings are greater--the greater the rise the greater will be the fall-when we are Redeemed we will be taken back again & Placed in our former Position.
102. Millennial Star, Vol. 23:653-654; President George Q. Cannon; October, 1861.
President Young, in the foregoing passages (J. D. 1:50-51 & others), while substantiating the fact of the union of man's preexisting spirit with a bodily product of the "dust of the ground," enters more particularly into the modus operandi of that union. He unmistakably declares man's origin to be altogether of a celestial character---that not only is his spirit of heavenly descent, but his organization too,---that the latter is not taken from the lower animals, but from the originally celestial body of the great Father of humanity.
103. J. D. 9:148; Brigham Young; Tabernacle in Salt Lake City, Utah; January 12, 1862.
Adam was as conversant with his Father who placed him upon this earth as we are conversant with our earthly parents. The Father frequently came to visit his son Adam, and talked and walked with him; and the children of Adam were more or less acquainted with their Grandfather, and their children were more or less acquainted with their Great-Grandfather; and the things that pertain to God and to heaven were as familiar among mankind, in the first ages of their existence on the earth, as these mountains are to our mountain boys.
104. Letter to President Brigham Young from W. W. Phelps; Jan. 20th, 1862.
President Young, or Brother Young just as pleases you best.
Judge Phelps or rather brother Phelps wishes to say that he has discovered the following "old revelation"
"Lead thy people, with thy support, the flock of thine estate, living in a lone wild, in the midst of the garden; let them be lead from the mountains like the days of old. According to the forty years of the going out of Egypt, our Lion will become terrible.
The nations shall behold, and become ashamed of their power;: They shall put their hand upon their mouth, and stop their ears. They shall lick dust like the serpent: like the snakes of the earth. They shall quake, shutting themselves up on account of the Almighty: the Lord our God; They will tremble and fear because of thee."--The Lion of the Lord--so much for Zion: eight years more will complete the "forty"--and then the Temple up, Israel will want "Room;"--and there will be plenty in the "United States" that once was! Hussa! for Deseret. As I am nearly the oldest member of the "Council of fifty," when the state of Deseret is officered I wish to be remembered. When Zion is to be built up no more to be thrown down, I shall be in my place by revelation. To end the whole matter, we must be heared (sp. heard) by the Gods; fearing: and, according to the commandments, watch,--for this sustained Adam our Father, who is the Almighty before mentioned. When Israel was in the Wilderness, they kept the word of wisdom, as died like Achan (sp. ?) for stealing, god and garments. My voice is Virtue and Victory. Amen!
W. W. Phelps
P S Keep this letter, as have not copied it.
105. J. D. 9:243; Brigham Young; Dedication of the New Theatre in Great Salt Lake City; March 6, 1862.
The Lord knows all things; man should know all things pertaining to this life, and to obtain this knowledge it is right that he should use every feasible means; and I do not hesitate to say that the stage can, in a great degree, be made to subserve this end. It is written, "Prove all things, hold fast that which is good." Refuse evil, choose good, hate iniquity, love truth. All this our fathers have done before us; I do not particularly mean father Adam, or his Father; I do not particularly mean Abraham, or Moses, the Prophets, of Apostles, but I mean our fathers who have been exalted for millions of years previous to Adam's time. They have all passed through the same ordeals we are now passing through, and have searched all things, even to the depths of hell.
106. J. D. 10:221; President Brigham Young; given during April and May, 1863.
The Lord could impart this information (how to raise corn) in a special revelation, the same as he instructed Adam and Eve how to cover their nakedness. He showed them how to make aprons of leaves and then coats of skins, and instructed Adam in extracting the metals from their ores, the same as one man instructs another.
107. J. D. 10:235; Discourse by Heber C. Kimball; Provo, Utah; June 27, 1863.
We have been taught that our Father and God, from whom we sprang, called and appointed his servants to go and organize an earth, and, among the rest, he said to Adam, "You go along also and help all you can; you are going to inhabit it when it is organized, therefore go and assist in the good work." It reads in the Scriptures that the Lord did it, but the true rendering is, that the Almighty sent Jehovah and Michael to do the work. They were also instructed to plant every kind of vegetable, likewise the forest and the fruit trees, and they actually brought from heaven every variety of fruit, of the seeds of vegetables, the seeds of flowers, and planted them in this earth on which we dwell. And I will say more, the spot chosen for the garden of Eden was Jackson County, in the State of Missouri, where Independence now stands; it was occupied in the morn of creation by Adam and his associates who came with him for the express purpose of peopling this earth.
Father Adam was instructed to multiply and replenish the earth, to make it beautiful and glorious, to make it, in short, like unto the garden from which the seeds were brought to plant the garden of Eden. I might say much more upon this subject, but I will ask, has it not been imitated before you in your holy endowments so that you might understand how things were in the beginning of creation and cultivation of this earth? God the Father made Adam the Lord of this creation in the beginning, and if we are the Lords of this creation under Adam, ought we not to take a course to imitate our Father in heaven? Is not all this exhibited to us in our endowments: the earth made glorious and beautiful to look upon, representing everything which the Lord caused to be prepared and placed to adorn the earth. The Prophet Joseph frequently spoke of these things in the revelations which he gave, but the people generally did not understand them, but to those who did they were cheering, they had a tendency to gladden the heart and enlighten the mind.
108. J. D. 10:230-231; President Brigham Young; Remarks were delivered on the Public Square, Great Salt Lake City; July 8, 1863.
We believe in God the Father and in Jesus Christ our elder brother. We believe that God is a person of tabernacle, possessing in an infinitely higher degree all the perfections and qualifications of his mortal children. We believe that he made Adam after his own image and likeness, as Moses testifies; and in this belief we differ from the professedly Christian world, who declare that "His center is everywhere, but his circumference is nowhere." Their God has no body nor parts; our God possesses a body and parts, and was heard by Adam and Eve "Walking in the garden in the cool of the day."
109. J. D. 10:355; President Brigham Young; Delivered in the Bowery; November 6, 1864. After quoting D&C 107:53-55, President Young continues:
So, in like manner, every faithful son of God, becomes, as it were, Adam to the race that springs from his loins, when they are embraced in the covenants and blessings of the Holy Priesthood; and in the lapse of eternity, and in the progress of eternal lives, every true son of God becomes a king of kings, and a lord of lords, and it may also be said of him, as it was written of Jesus Christ, "Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end."
110. J. D. 11:41; Brigham Young; Remarks delivered in the Tabernacle, Salt Lake City; January 8, 1865.
No mortal man has ever seen God in His glory at any time and lived. We may have seen the Lord and angels many times, and did not know it. I will be satisfied with seeing and associating with His children whom I now behold, for there is not a son or daughter of Adam and Eve before me today but what is the offspring of that God we worship. He is our Heavenly Father; He is also our God, and the Maker and upholder of all things in heaven and on earth.
111. J. D. 11:121-122; President Brigham Young; Bowery, Great Salt Lake City, June 18, 1865.
We believe in a Deity who is incorporated---who is a Being of tabernacle, through which the great attributes of His nature are made manifest. It is supposed by a certain celebrated philosopher that the most minute particles of matter . . . possess a portion of divinity, a portion of infinite power, knowledge, goodness and truth, and that these qualities are God, and should be worshipped wherever found. I am an infidel to this doctrine. . . . Elder Orson Pratt has written extensively on the doctrines of this church, and upon this particular doctrine. When he writes and speaks upon subjects with which he is acquainted and understands, he is a very sound reasoner; but when he has written upon matters of which he knows nothing---his own philosophy, which I call vain philosophy---he is wild, uncertain, and contradictory.
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He (God) created man, as we create our children; for there is no other process of creation in heaven, on the earth, in the earth, or under the earth, or in all the eternities, that is, that were, or that ever will be.
112. Deseret News, p. 370; Article signed and published by the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve; August 23, 1865.
We do not wish incorrect and unsound doctrines to be handed down to posterity under the sanction of great names, to be received and valued by future generations as authentic and reliable, creating labor and difficulties for our successors to perform and contend with, which we ought not to transmit to them. The interests of posterity are, to a certain extent, in our hands. Errors in history and in doctrine, if left uncorrected by us who are conversant with the events, and who are in a position to judge of the truth or falsity of the doctrines, would go to our children as though we had sanctioned and endorsed them. Such a construction could very easily be put upon our silence respecting them, and would tend to perplex and mislead posterity, and make the labor or correction an exceedingly difficult one for them. We know what sanctity there is always attached to the writings of men who have passed away, especially to the writings of Apostles, when none of their contemporaries are left, and we, therefore, feel the necessity of being watchful upon these points. Personal feelings and friendships and associations ought to sink into comparative insignificance, and have no weight in view of consequences so momentous to the people and kingdom of God as these.
113. Conference Report, October 1865, Semi-Annual General Conference; Monday, October 9th, 1865, 10 a.m. [See also Millennial Star XXVII, pp. 770-771; Deseret News XV, 5 (October 12, 1865); "Journal History", 9 October 1865; and "Documentary History", p. 924.]
THE SPIRIT
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O may the Saints be perfect
As God our Father was,
When he got back to Eden,
By her celestial laws.
114. Conference Report, October 1865, Semi-Annual General Conference; Elder F. D. Richards; Monday, October 9th, 1865, 10 a.m. [None of these discourses are in the J. D.]
He [Elder Richards] dwelt at length on some of the principles of theology, showing that duties of a temporal nature were the first that were enjoined upon our first parents when they were placed in the garden of Eden;. . . .
115. Millennial Star, Vol 27:698; November, 1865.
The Seer, the "Great First Cause", and certain articles by Orson Pratt on the Holy Spirit were disowned by the Church. The people of the Church were asked to destroy his questionable writings.
116. J. D. 11:286; President Brigham Young; Great Salt Lake Tabernacle; January 13, 1867.
Some men seem as if they could learn so much and no more. They appear to be bounded in their capacity for acquiring knowledge as Brother Orson Pratt, has in theory, bounded the capacity of God. According to his theory, God can progress no further in knowledge and power; but the God that I serve is progressing eternally, and so are his children; they will increase to all eternity, if they are faithful.
117. Journal of Wilford Woodruff, May 5, 1867.
At St. George meeting on Sunday:
I wish to say a word about Amasa Lyman & tell why he is dropped from the Twelve. It is because of his infidelity. He has no faith in the Atonement, & another reason is he has lied in his confession. He has preached infidelity for many years to the people, but not the Presidency & Twelve. Orson Pratt does not believe in a God, only in attributes, but not in a personage. He would have been cut off from the Church long ago had it not have been for me. The Twelve would have cut him off. Did any one of you ever hear of any one of the Twelve ever preach the baby resurrection? I have heard of it. Neither of those brethren will be enabled to do any good.
118. Letter from W. W. Phelps to President Brigham Young; Great Salt Lake City, May 6, 1867.
Pres. Young. If I correctly understood your meaning yesterday afternoon in the Tabernacle, "you did not know whether, the man, I mentioned, as spoken of in the book of Doctrine & Covenants Sec. 101 Pat. 3. page 292 English Ed. meant you or not." Now as that Revelation was given more than 28 years ago, and before we were driven from Missouri, or Illinois, and even before the prophet Joseph was martyred, I still have a very easy notion in my heart that, as you lead the "Church of Jesus Christ, of Latter day Saints," over Plains and mountains to these waste places of Zion, to these chambers of the High places of Jehovah, even these "Holy places," where we, as a people, are free from the confusion, and utter abolishment that has already begun to be poured out upon Babylon, that you are the man likened unto Moses, in the revelation, and will, at the end of 40 years, like the Lion mentioned by Micah, become Terrible, and lead the armies of Israel back to Jackson County, Missouri, where, according to your first "anointing in the Lord's House at Kirtland, you, as well as myself, had the sealed blessing of the prophet upon our heads "to live to be as old as Moses," which will bring us both into the resurrection far enough to be changed in the twinkling of an eye.
The Revelations on stewardships, in the Doctrine & Covenants commencing on page 165. Sec 26, shows to you and I as well as brothers Kimball and Wells, that the Lord had the same thing in view, when he made us "stewards" over the Revelations:--the fourth paragraph, in particular, with that "whatsoever circumstances," and thus, "whithersoever I the Lord shall send them"--sounds to me as if the Lord knew what you and I would do and need--as to the revelation, which Morris and Cook, are trambooming on up at the Weber, it reads: "And it shall come to pass, that I the Lord God will send one mighty and strong, holding the sceptre of power in his hand, clothed with light for a covering; whose mouth shall utter words, eternal words, while his laurels shall be a fountain of truth: --to set in order the house of God, and to arrange by lot the inheritance of the saints, etc. etc. while that man who was called of God, and appointed that put forth his hand to steady the Ark of God, shall fall by the shaft of death"--etc. now this revelation was sent to me in Zion, and has reference to the time when Adam our father and God, comes at the beginning of our Eternal Lot of inheritance,--according as our names are found in the Law of the Lord, while the fools that received the priesthood, like the fool that took his "one Talent" and hit it;--or reached out to steady the ark, will find themselves where the rich man did --in hell, with plenty of fire--but no water. Love begets lives eternal; our grace begets glory, but sin seeks secession, where goats and skunks can enjoy the lower room fog of a more dismal prison, than the nether room of Noah's Ark. Now should I be wrong in my belief as to these quotations:--please let me have your views, for I am for God, light and life as his "steward"
yours etc.
W. W. Phelps
119. Journal of Wilford Woodruff; Ms/f/115, Church Historical Department; May 12, 1867.
At Fillmore public meeting:
President Young said there never was any world created & peopled nor never would be but what would be redeemed by the shedding of the blood of the savior of that world. If we are ever exalted and crowned in the presence of God we shall become saviors of a world which we shall create & people. I know why the Blood of Jesus was shed, I know why the blood of Joseph & Hiram & others have been shed and the blood of others will be shed it is all to answer a purpose and has its effect Adam made this world and suffered himself to take a body and descending below all things we cannot ascend above all things. There never will be any change of the gospel of Salvation. it is an Eternal gospel and the same in all worlds and always will be to the endless ages of Eternity. There never was a period but what worlds existed & never will be, and they all have the same Gospel & Law of Salvation. Amasa Lyman is rejecting the Blood of Christ has cut himself off from the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles and he cannot be restored to it in this probation. He has had a chance to be a great man in this Kingdom. He never was Joseph Smiths councillor (sp. councilor) but was a Thirteenth Apostle for a long time.
120. J. D. 12:97; Brigham Young; Bowery, Great Salt Lake City; June 30, 1867.
If you are not sanctified and prepared, you ought to be sanctifying and preparing yourselves for the blessings in store for you when it will be said of you, this is Mother Eve. Why? Because you are the mother of all living. You might as well prepare first as last. If you wish to be Eves and mothers of human families, you ought to bear the burden.
121. "Minutes of Meetings Held in Provo City", film/979.2/Z99/v.2, BYU Microfilm Room; given in the Provo Bowery; Sunday morning, 25 August 1867.
Pres. Young was pleased with the teachings that had been given during this conference. Refered (sp. Referred) to the fall of man. The bodies of Adam and Eve were pure and after the Celestial order until they partook of the forbidden fruit when their bodies were changed with the things of this world. Adam helped organize this world for an inheritance for himself and posterity.
122. Journal of Wilford Woodruff, September 4, 1867.
At Salt Lake City: The Twelve held a Council in the evening in relation to false doctrines. O Hyde had formerly preached an incorrect doctrine on the resurrection called the baby resurrection. Elder Orson Hyde renounced the doctrine & made it all right with the Quorum. Some things were not quite satisfactory with O Pratt on doctrine.
123. Journal of Wilford Woodruff, September 10, 1867.
* * * Social conversation ensued upon this subject (the baby resurrection doctrine of Orson Hyde); even the Godhead. O Pratt said that he did not worship attributes aside from the personage of God, but believed that God was an organized Being the same as man and that man possessed the attributes of God & would become a God if he kept the celestial law.
124. Journal of Wilford Woodruff, September 12, 1867.
At Paris, Idaho: The President & Twelve held a Council in the evening upon the difference of opinion with O. Pratt.
125. Journal of Wilford Woodruff, December 16, 1867.
At meeting of School of the Prophets: President Young said Adam was Michael the Archangel, & he was the Father of Jesus Christ & was our God & that Joseph taught this principle.
126. Wilford Woodruff at the School of the Prophets; Jan 24, 1868.
. . . I feel thankful for the privilege of speaking a few words to this school. I wish to refer to the first doctrine preached (?) that Adam was our Father & God in the revelation called the olive leaf it says that "the devil gathered together the hosts of hell and Michael the ark angel gathered together the hosts of heaven and he overcame the devil & his angels & this is the battle of the great God" who is this Michael the ark angel it is Adam who was Michael in the creation of the world. . .
127. "Minutes of the School of the Prophets", pp. 37-42; Provo, Utah; June 8, 1868.
Abraham B. Smoot:
I will just say further there are a great many subjects pertaining to the building up of Zion, that have not been presented in the school yet---the object of the school is to educate the brethren so that they will be able to take the lead in matters pertaining to the building up of the kingdom.
The doctrine preached by Pres. Young for a few years back, wherein he says that Adam is our God---the God we worship---that most of the people believe this---some believe it because the President says so---others because they can find testimony in the Book of Mormon and Book of Doctrine and Covenants. Amasa Lyman stumbled on this, he did not believe it---he did not believe in the atonement of Jesus---Orson Pratt has also told the President that he does not believe it. This is not the way to act. We should not suffer ourselves to entertain one doubt. We are not accountable on points of doctrines if the President makes a statement. It is not our prerogative to dispute it. He is only accountable in points of doctrine. I have heard President Young avow the truth of Adam being our Father and God but have never heard him argue the question at all.
A. F. McDonald:
I thought I would speak briefly in relation to Adam being our God. Since the year 1852 when the President first spoke on this subject, I have frequently endeavored to reconcile what I have read with regard to this matter. I believe what the President says on the subject although it comes in contact with all our tradition. I have not any doubt in my mind but that Adam is our God. Who his God and Father may be, I have no knowledge. President Kimball spoke on this question recently and very plainly illustrated the character and relationship of our Father and God.
George G. Bywater:
I am not disposed to question the discrepancies on this question of doctrine; if we live faithful all will become clear to us. We cannot become united only as we get united in understanding. When I first heard the doctrine of Adam being our Father and God, I was favorably impressed---enjoyed, and hailed it as a new revelation. It appeared reasonable to me, as the Father of our spirits that he should introduce us here. And what we do not see is only evidence that we have not the light necessary.
128. Letter from Orson Pratt to President Young, cf/1325/Bx 4/fd 3/loose; Salt lake City; July 1, 1868.
"To President B. Young:"
"Dear Brother, since the last two meetings at the school, I have, at times, reflected much and very seriously, upon the feelings which I have suffered myself for years to occasionally entertain respecting certain doctrines, or rather items of ante-deluvian (sp. antediluvian) history, now believed by the Church, and have tried to justify myself in taking an opposite view, on the supposition that I was supported by the letter of the word of God: but as often as I have yielded to this influence I have felt an indescribable wretchedness which fully convinces me that I am wrong; I wish to repent of these wrongs for I fully realize that my sins, in this respect, have been very great, and of long continuance, and that it has been only through your great forbearance and long suffering, and the patience of my quorum, that I have been continued in the high and responsible calling of the Apostleship to this day.
"I am deeply sensible that I have greatly sinned against you, and against my brethren of the school, and against God, in foolishly trying to justify myself in advancing ideas, opposed to those which have been introduced by the highest authorities of the Church, and adopted by the Saints. I humbly ask you and the school to forgive me. Hereafter, through the grace of God assisting me, I am determined to be one with you, and never be found opposing anything that comes through the legitimate order of the Priesthood, knowing that it is perfectly right for me to humbly submit, in all matters of doctrine and principle, my judgment to those whose right it is, by divine appointment to receive revelation and guide the Church.
"There is no one thing in this world, or in that which is to come which I do more earnestly desire, than to honor my calling, and be permitted to retain the same, and with my brethren the Twelve, enter the Celestial Kingdom, with a full preparation to enjoy the glory thereof for ever.
"In regard to all that portion of my printed writings which have come under the inspection of the highest authorities of the Church, and judged incorrect, I do most sincerely hope that the same may be rejected and considered of no value, only to point out the imperfections of the author, and to be a warning to others to be more careful. This request I made formerly, but feel to renew it again in this letter.
"With feelings of great sorrow, and deep regret for all my past sins, I subscribe myself your humble brother in Christ."
"Orson Pratt, Sen."
"I certify that the above is a true copy of the original."
/s/ Martin S. Lindsay, Notary Public
Salt Lake City, Utah, March 19, 1904.
129. Historian's Office Journal; Church Archives; 4 July 1868.
Sat. July 4, . . . School of the Prophets at 2 p.m. Elder O. Pratt made full confession before the School of his error in opposing doctrines revealed; . . . he asked forgiveness of Prest. Young, of the Twelve and of the whole School. Prest. Young expressed his satisfaction with Elder Pratt's confession & preached in relation to Adam &c. &c. . . .
130. "Minutes of Meetings Held in Provo City"; Film/979.2/Z99/v. 2, BYU Microfilm Room; Sunday, 2 p.m. 3 October 1869.
Pres. B. Young in the course of his remarks said: * * * All worlds have their God, their Savior, their sin, their priesthood, and can choose which they like, but beginning man rejected the priesthood by assuming to be a law unto himself--all other things abide this law.
131. Journal History, p. 131; President Brigham Young speaking at the School of the Prophets; December 11, 1869. See also Journal of Wilford Woodruff,.
Some may think what I have said concerning Adam strange, but the period will come when the people will be willing to adopt Joseph Smith as their prophet, Seer, and Revelator and God! but not the Father of their spirits, for that was our Father Adam.
132. Millennial Star 31:267; President Brigham Young; 1869.
Before me I see a house full of Eves. What a crowd of reflections the word Eve is calculated to bring up! Eve was the name or title conferred upon our first mother, because she was actually to be the mother of all the human beings who should live upon this earth. I am looking upon a congregation designed to be just such beings.
133. J. D. 13:311; President Brigham Young; delivered in the Tabernacle, Salt Lake City; Sunday, April 17, 1870.
The world may in vain ask the question, "Who are we?" But the Gospel tells us that we are the sons and daughters of that God whom we serve. Some say, "We are the children of Adam and Eve." So we are, and they are the children of our Heavenly Father. We are all the children of Adam and Eve, and they and we are the offspring of Him who dwells in the heavens, the highest Intelligence that dwells anywhere that we have any knowledge of.
134. 15 October 1870. Spelling as in original.
I dug potatoes in the forenoon & attended the School of the Prophets in the Afternoon President Yo[un]g asked me to speak upon the Character of Adam who he was I proved that Adam was Michael the Archangel, the Seventh Angel, & the Ancient of Days, the Father of all & the prince of All. I quoted the 7 Chapter of Daniel 9 to 14 vers (sp. verses) Doctrine & Covents (sp. Covenants) 79 page 28 paragraph 106 page 35 P 201 p 2d Paragraph I was followed by G Q Cannon President Yg & G.A.. Smith
135. Autobiography of Gilbert Belnap, p. 23.
When contrasting the present conditions of the inhabitants of the earth with their primeval state in the Garden of Eden, the period when the Father of our spirits condescended that through the partaking of the fruits of the earth that man might be. . . I am caused to mourn.
136. Jans Christian Anderson Weibye Daybooks, Daybook 1st, p. 131; January 25, 1871.
At Manti, Wednesday 25. I attended meeting, Orson Hyde preached to us, and he told us that what we heard before that Adam is our God, we had a splendid good meeting.
At Manti, Jan 25th Orson Hyde preached to us here in Manti, that, Adam is our God for this planet (Earth).
137. J. D. 14:111; President Brigham Young; delivered in the Salt Lake Tabernacle; May 7, 1871.
Do you not all know that you are the sons and daughters of the Almighty? If you do not I will inform you this morning that there is not a man or woman on the earth that is not a son or daughter of Adam and Eve. We all belong to the races which have sprung from father Adam and mother Eve; and every son and daughter of Adam and Eve is a son and daughter of that God we serve, who organized this earth and millions of others, and who holds them in existence by law.
138. J. D. 14:242; Elder Orson Pratt; August 20, 1871.
There are no marriages among spirits, no coupling together of the males and females among them; but when they rise from the grave after being tabernacled in mortal bodies, they have all the functions that are necessary to people worlds. As our Father and God begat us sons and daughters, so will we rise immortal males and females, and beget children and, in our turn, form and create worlds, and send forth our spirit children to inherit those worlds, the same as we were sent here, and thus will the works of God continue, and not only God himself, and His Son Jesus Christ have the power of endless lives, but all of His redeemed offspring.
139. J. D. 15:136-137; delivered at Farmington; Saturday afternoon, August 24, 1872.
Now a few words to the brethren and sisters upon the doctrine and ordinances of the house of God. All who have lived on the earth according to the best light they had, and would have received the fullness of the Gospel had it been preached to them, are worthy of a glorious resurrection, and will attain to this by being administered for in the flesh by those who have the authority. All others will have a resurrection, and receive a glory, except those who have sinned against the Holy Ghost. It is supposed by this people that we have all the ordinances in our possession for life and salvation, and exaltation, and that we are administering in these ordinances. This is not the case. We are in possession of all the ordinances that can be administered in the flesh; but there are other ordinances and administrations that must be administered beyond this world. I know you would ask what they are. I will mention one. We have not, neither can we receive here, the ordinance and the keys of the resurrection. They will be given to those who have passed off this stage of action and have received their bodies again, as many have already done and many more will. They will be ordained, by those who hold the keys of the resurrection, to go forth and resurrect the Saints, just as we receive the ordinance of baptism, then the keys of authority to baptize others for the remission of their sins. This is one of the ordinances we can not receive here, and there are many more. We hold the authority to dispose of, alter and change the elements; but we have not received authority to organize native element to even make a spear of grass grow. We have no such ordinance here. We organize according to men in the flesh. By combining the elements and planting the seed, we cause vegetables, trees, grains, &c., to come forth. We are organizing a kingdom here according to the pattern that the Lord has given for people in the flesh, but not for those who have received the resurrection, although it is a similitude. Another item: We have not the power in the flesh to create and bring forth or produce a spirit; but we have the power to produce a temporal body. The germ of this, God has placed within us. And when our spirits receive our bodies, and through our faithfulness we are worthy to be crowned, we will then receive authority to produce both spirit and body. But these keys we cannot receive in the flesh. Herein, brethren, you can perceive that we have not finished, and cannot finish our work, while we live here, no more than Jesus did while he was in the flesh.
We can not receive, while in the flesh, the keys to form and fashion kingdoms and to organize matter for they are beyond our capacity and calling, beyond this world. In the resurrection, men who have been faithful and diligent in all things in the flesh, have kept their first and second estate, and worthy to be crowned Gods, even the sons of God, will be ordained to organize matter. How much matter do you suppose there is between here and some of the fixed stars which we can see? Enough to frame many, very many millions of such earths as this, yet it is now so diffused, clear and pure, that we look through it and behold the stars.
140. Journal of Wilford Woodruff; B. Young speaking; March 30, 1873.
When Adam left the garden, he went 40 miles to Adam-ondi-Ahman and built an alter and that alter remains today.
141. J. D. 16:48: Elder Orson Pratt; May 18, 1873.
Adam-ondi-Ahman, the Valley of God, where Adam dwelt, was located about fifty miles north of Jackson County, in the State of Missouri.
142. Deseret News, Vol. 22, No. 308; Brigham Young; discourse delivered in the New Tabernacle, Salt Lake City; Sunday Afternoon, June 8th, 1873.
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. . . I have been found fault with a great many times for casting reflections upon men of science, and especially upon theologians, because of the little knowledge they possess about man being on the earth, about the earth itself, about our Father in heaven, his Son Jesus Christ, the order of heavenly things, the laws by which angels exist, by which the worlds were created and are held in existence, &c. How pleased we would be to place these things before the people if they would receive them! How much unbelief exists in the minds of the Latter-day Saints in regard to one particular doctrine which I revealed to them, and which God revealed to me--namely that Adam is our father and God--I do not know, I do not inquire, I care nothing about it. Our Father Adam helped to make this earth, it was created expressly for him, and after it was made he and his companions came here. He brought one of his wives with him, and she was called Eve, because she was the first woman upon the earth. Our Father Adam is the man who stands at the gate and holds the keys of everlasting life and salvation to all his children who have or who ever will come upon the earth. I have been found fault with by the ministers of religion because I have said that they were ignorant. But I could not find any man on the earth who could tell me this, although it is one of the simplest things in the world, until I met and talked with Joseph Smith.
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The Christian world read of, and thing much about, St. Paul, also St. Peter, the chief of the Apostles. These men were faithful to and magnified the priesthood while on the earth. Now, where will be the mystery, after they have passed through all the ordeals, and have been crowned and exalted, and received their inheritances in the eternal worlds of glory, for them to be sent forth, as the Gods have been for ever and ever, with the command--"Make yourselves an earth and people it with your own children?"
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My brother said that God is as we are. He did not mean those words to be literally understood. He meant simply, that in our organization we have all the properties in embryo in our bodies that our Father has in his, and that literally, morally, socially, by the spirit and by the flesh we are his children. Do you think that God, who holds the eternities in his hands and can do all things at his pleasure, it not capable of sending forth his own children, and forming this flesh for his own offspring? Where is the mystery in this? We say that Father Adam came here and helped to make the earth. Who is he? He is Michael, a great prince, and it was said to him by Eloheim, : Go ye and make an earth." What is the great mystery about it? He came and formed the earth. . . . Adam found it in a state of chaos, unorganized and incomplete. . . . Adam came here and got it up in a shape that would suit him to commence business. Father Adam came here, and then they brought his wife. "Well," says one, "Why was Adam called Adam?" He was the first man on the earth, and its framer and maker. He with the help of his brethren, brought it into existence. Then he said, "I want my children who are in the spirit world to come and live here. I once dwelt upon an earth something like this, in a mortal state, I was faithful, I received my crown and exaltation. I have the privilege of extending my work, and to its increase there will be no end. I want my children that were born to me in the spirit world to come here and take tabernacles of flesh, that their spirits may have a house, a tabernacle or a dwelling place as mine has, and where is the mystery?
143. J. D. 16:127; President Daniel H. Wells; Delivered in the Salt Lake Tabernacle; Saturday afternoon, August 9, 1873.
It has been revealed in our day who we are, and the relationship we hold to God. We have learned that God is our Father, and that we are his children, bona fide his children. Not in a spiritual sense alone, but when we say, "Our Father who are in heaven," we mean just what we say.
144. J. D. 16: 167; Brigham Young; Bowery, Paris, Oneida County, Idaho; Sunday, August 31, 1873.
When Father Adam came to assist in organizing the earth out of the crude material that was found, an earth was made upon which the children of men could live. After the earth was prepared Father Adam came and stayed here, and there was a woman brought to him. Now I am telling you something that many of you know, it has been told to you, and the brethren and sisters should understand it. There was a certain woman brought to Father Adam whose name was Eve, because she was the first woman, and she was given to him to be his wife; I am not disposed to give any farther knowledge concerning her at present. There is no doubt but that he left many companions. The great and glorious doctrine that pertains to this I have not time to dwell upon; neither should I at present if I had time. He understood this whole machinery or system before he came to this earth; and I hope my brethren and sisters will profit by what I have told them.
145. Journal of Wilford Woodruff; August 31, 1873.
At Paris, Idaho: President B. Young spoke 1 hour & 18 minutes. In his remarks he said that a man who did not have but one wife in the resurrection that woman will not be his but taken from him and given to another. But he may be saved in the kingdom of God but be single to all eternity. Mother Eve was the Daughter of Adam.
146. J. D. 16:324; Orson Pratt; Delivered in the 16th Ward Meeting Rooms; November 22, 1873.
Our first parents were not mortal when they were placed on this earth, but they were as immortal as those who are resurrected in the presence of God. Death came into the world by their transgression, they produced mortality; hence this will be a complete restoration, of which I am speaking.
147. J. D. 17:143; President Brigham Young, Delivered at the Funeral Services of Elder Thomas Williams, in the 14th Ward Assembly Rooms, Salt Lake City, Sunday Morning, July 19, 1874.
This earth is our home, it was framed expressly for the habitation of those who are faithful to God, and who prove themselves worthy to inherit the earth when the Lord shall have sanctified, purified and glorified it and brought it back into his presence, from which it fell far into space. Ask the astronomer how far we are from the nearest of those heavenly bodies that are called the fixed stars. Can he count the miles? It would be a task for him to tell us the distance. When the earth was framed and brought into existence and man was placed upon it, it was near the throne of our Father in heaven. And when man fell---though that was designed in the economy, there was nothing about it mysterious or unknown to the Gods, they understood it all, it was all planned---but when man fell, the earth fell into space, and took up its abode in the planetary system, and the sun became our light. When the Lord said--- "Let there be light," there was light, for the earth was brought near the sun that it might reflect upon it so as to give us light by day, and the moon to give us light by night. This is the glory the earth came from, and when it is glorified it will return again unto the presence of the Father, and it will dwell there, and these intelligent beings that I am looking at, if they live worthy of it, will dwell upon this earth.
As for there labor and pursuits in eternity I have not time to talk upon that subject; but we shall have plenty to do. We shall not be idle. We shall go on from one step to another, reaching forth into the eternities until we become like the Gods, and shall be able to frame for ourselves, by the bequest and command of the Almighty. All those who are counted worthy to be exalted and to become Gods, even the sons of God, will go forth and have earths and worlds like those who framed this and millions on millions of others. This is our home, built expressly for us by the Father of our spirits, who is the Father, maker, framer and producer of these mortal bodies that we now inherit, and which go back to mother earth. When the spirit leaves them they are lifeless; and when the mother feels life come to her infant it is the spirit entering the body preparatory to the immortal existence.
148. Charles L. Walker "Journal", 1876 Vol., pp. 95-6; BYU Special Collections; 14 May 1876.
Sunday May 14th 1876 Pleasant At Conference again large attendance after singing by the Cedar choir Br Brigham junior offered up the Dedicatory Prayer dedicating the House to the Lord and to his worship. Br Brigham spoke on the Philosophy of our religion said that all true science emanated from God drew a striking contrast between the religion of Men and the Reveled will of God to his servants. Said that the Father of Jesus Christs (sp. Christ's) spirit, was the same that begat him in the Flesh. Showed that had be been all human He would not have had power to make the atonement and Redeem the world. showed that by throwing away evil and error and adopting goodness an (sp. and) truth and thro (sp. through) the sanctifying influences of the Holy Ghost we should soon be able to receive visits from Angels, and where ever we lived and the surrounding would partake of the influences and become Holy even a Heaven, spoke of the vast creations of God and the Millions of worlds that had and would be redeemed said that the Sun was inhabited and God dweld (sp. dwelt) in the midst of eternal burnings doubted whether the Angels comprehended the vast infinitude of Space Said that the world would not receive the truth when they heard it and loved darkness rather than light and herein they lie under condemnation.
149. L. John Nuttal Papers; BYU Special Collections, Mss 188, Box 5, Folder #11; 14 May 1876. Spelling as in original.
Prest Young said I hope to be able to talk to the people so that they can hear me, and that I can give utterance to my feelings. I hope that I will be able to speak to the satisfaction of myself and then I can satisfy the L.D.S. But especially do I wish to satisfy him whom I serve. I shall not bring forth much scripture but I shall make my own scripture and have been for many years. if you don't believe it I will prove it to you. I will do it by asking some questions. Now if I speak the truth is not it just as much scripture as that which was spoken by Isaiah or Paul, Peter or John. They have gathered up the scraps and have left out 99 of 100 of those scrap and that is called the scriptures-aint my scrip worth as much as anyone elses' if it true? Now I want to save myself as Br Hancock said yesterday so that if I cannot do more I can point- I would sooner be able to point then out of the way and do nothing- a great many times the things that come to my mind is so natural that if I was to stop to think I should conclude I had not got it from the Lord. it is so natural that I think that I have it as we know our own children. Have we learned the character of the Son of God? Yes we know that he is the son of the living God Jesus could not have redeemed this earth had he been begotten of earthly parents. No; he must be begotten of an eternal parent being. so as to have the power of redemption. if Christ had been a son born of earthly parents natural father he could not have saved us. Who is the father? He is the living God & we know that much more than the christian world. The fault that I find with the people of the world is not that they are in darkness, but that they not receive the light. This is their condemnation that light is come into the world and they have chosen darkness rather than light. This is what I find fault with them for. Now we have learned this. Another thing. Do the Christians know where heaven is? No that simple thing they do not know. I never knew a priest or teacher of any denomination who could tell me. It is where happiness, it is where truth, and God is. If the people of a city are shut up in that city & take all truth we will be happy. I don't say that we can be so, but I merely bring it up to show you how it might be. If nobody here but the pure & the holy so they could begin to eat angel's food & they could become purified & the blood leave the body then what name would it have? what would we call it? why we would call it Heaven because we have no other name to call it. But if we had a person to lead us-this we must have for the most simple reason that we cannot get along without--that leader would be our God. When we get to a place, sanctified and purified and glorified we have found Heaven Zion of fled Joseph said if the people did but know it he was their God. I understood it. When the people of the planets look to see us, if they have glasses powerful enough, and I suppose they do have they will see but a little speck like a speck that we see in the water. Now I apply this to St. George, then if we had a ruler he would be our God, and we are but a small speck on the earth. Astronomers say it is 95 millions of miles from the earth to the sun and its makes heat is so great us want to get up on high ground (land). Now know that millions of inhabitants dwell there. Our God is a consuming fire. Every fixed star is a sun & it has its people & its God. This is all simple to those who know, who understand it, it is easy to comprehend. By strict obedience to the laws of life to so live that they may become lights to light up the abode so they will have purified bodies of light. The more they (we) give way to their (our) feelings & weaknesses the weaker we become and the light that is in us becomes darkness. Do you think you should live so as to have light? I think so. This is my religion. All true philosophy, every art to bring things to perfection is of God & our religion incorporates it. A great divine said a few years ago that all science or all religion must come in contact & one must go down, he didnt know which, but he thought it would be religion. A great many things the latter day saints have not understood. Celestial Marriage is not fully understood, not even by myself. Some want to increase but they abuse a wife or children. Do they think they will have a great kingdom--they may be mistaken. A man having even one wife, he may have the promise that he shall have seed. Did not Abraham, add the promise & he is increasing till his seed has filled the whole earth (world) & his seed are conducting all the great affairs of the world. This from one and a half tribes. I am a Yankee & I am pretty good at guessing & guess Abraham was one who was resurrected when Christ arose from the dead. The Savior came to the father, the ancient of days & presents to the father the kingdoms of this world all in a saved condition except the son of perdition & he says here father here they are & I with them. Then he is prepared to go farth & fill up his kingdom & so he goes on. In the creation he placed a man & he called them Adam, including the singular in the plural. So we can go forth increasing to help fill up space & eternity which is beyond the comprehension of man. With power that God gives us, he prepares us to become filled with power that we may overcome. All things first spiritual then temporal--on earth first temporal afterwards spiritual: but what do the Christian world know about this? A powerful Methodist revival preacher said he had traveled said he had moved a swath from Ohio to York. He represented the preacher pulling his ears & weaving around.
150. L. John Nuttal Papers; BYU Special Collections, Mss 188, Container #1, File Folder #1, Red book with gold lining, front and back covers, with the title "Records" on front cover in gold. 19.5 cm x 12.5 cm, 240 pages, Thursday June 19, 1879-Tuesday December 16, 1879 : journal.
[Inside front cover fly leaf: Not in BYU Typescript of Diaries:]
obtained my Second Anointings Sept. 23, 1867 at 9 a.m. also my wife Elizabeth.
"Adam-ondi-Ahman" The Valley of God where Adam dwelt- so say O Pratt Sr Oct/80
[Loose papers at end of book on inside back cover:]
Pres Taylor said I heard Jan 13/80
Joseph Smith say that Adam was the Ancient of Days spoken of by Daniel You cannot get blessings only through the organized priesthood and when there was not an organized Church on the earth there was not priesthood & this power referred to the conferring the power of Elijah's priesthood to Elisha./ Joseph traced the Priesthood from Adam to Peter, Ja & John - they to Joseph & all who have held a portion of the priesthood would have to give an account of their stewardship or Priesthood to the one from whom they received it-
rendering up an account of your stewardship to the one that preceeded (sp. preceded) you - but you do not give up your priesthood Adam heard the voice of the Lord walking in the garden. Adam had a God then...
Cain heard the voice of the Lord who enquired after Abel-
referred to Peter Jas & John conferring the Mel Prt on Jos Smith Moses who conferred the spirit of gathering - Elijah the sealing of the fathers & when we get to God our Father we are told to approach him in the name of Jesus Adam is the father of our bodies who is to say he is not the Father of our spirits.
Present Pres Taylor CCR. F. D. R. & W L Johnson Jr.
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