From: "Katherine Malm" <kmalm@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Institutional Ownership
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:40:52 -0600
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>>> Boucher says 1 - 16% is optimum (fuel), 35% max, David Ryan (an successful > student of Oneil, interviewed in market wizzards) says 1 - 20%. Thanks, Andreas. That seems a good number to keep from being "overowned." > Boucher adds Banks and Fonds That's what I was thinking would make sense. I've sent a feedback to DGO about total institutional vs. mutual fund ownership in their scans. >>That's the reason why I bought ECTX (15% Banks and Fonds, less shares outstanding) Your comment confused me, so just want to be sure I understood what you were saying. The numbers on DGO show % funds, % other institutions/banks as a % of the float. In this case, float is 3.5m. Banks/Institutions own 15% of 3.5m or 525K shares. Not much. The outstanding shares are total shares, float is a % of that. So, in this case 3.5m float / 16.2m outstanding = 22% of the outstanding shares are in float. That means institutions only own 0.525m/16.2m = 3.24% of outstanding shares. Still nice and low either way, but much lower than the implied 15%. >>instead of UTSI (50% Banks and Fonds) Just to compare apples and apples. UTSI has 39.5m float, 106.9m outstanding, 50% of *float* is in institutional hands. That means they own 0.5*39.5m = 19.75m shares. That's 19.75m / 106.9m outstanding = 18.48% of outstanding. Conversely, that will still qualify it for Ryan but not Boucher criteria, and certainly much higher than ECTX. But it's not nearly as scary as the idea that institutions own 50%! Katherine - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Himmelreich" <judgejimmy@web.de> To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:23 AM Subject: AW: [CANSLIM] Institutional Ownership > Boucher says 1 - 16% is optimum (fuel), 35% max, David Ryan (an successfull > student of Oneil, interviewed in market wizzards) says 1 - 20%. > Boucher adds Banks and Fonds. > > I do not like Stocks that have more then 30 - 40%, the stock then is > already known to everybody. > Thats the reason why I bought ECTX (15% Banks and Fonds, less shares > outstanding) instead of UTSI (50% Banks and Fonds) > > > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Katherine Malm [SMTP:kmalm@earthlink.net] > > Gesendet am: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 6:25 AM > > An: canslim@lists.xmission.com > > Betreff: [CANSLIM] Institutional Ownership > > > > I've been playing around with the new filtering criteria in the beta DGO > and wanted to get the list's point of view on institutional ownership. > > > > (1) The DGO filter only includes mutual fund ownership, rather than total > institutional AND mutual fund ownership. Do you see this as a problem? > > > > (2) Out of curiosity, I scanned for the following: > > > > Price>=$10; ADV>=90K; A/D = A, B, or C; Price > 50dMA 1% or more (can't > do 0.00001!); Price > 200dMA 1% or more; mutual fund ownership >=10%; RS > >=60. > > > > This is a wide net screen that looks for stocks performing relatively > well and liquid enough to be in big hands. If liquidity were based on total > float the results might be different. > > > > This gave 717 names. When I started lopping off mutual fund ownership, > the numbers of stocks were: > > > > 10-90% = 713 stocks > > 10-80% = 712 stocks > > 10-70% = 711 stocks > > 10-60% = 708 stocks > > 10-50% = 696 stocks > > 10-40% = 634 stocks > > 10-30% = 470 stocks > > 10-20% = 227 stocks > > 00-09% = 23 stocks (another bugaboo, can't scan for <10%) > > > > It seems like the primary concentration is around 10 to 40%. (But this > may not mean much if it doesn't include all institutional holders.) > > What would you view as a reasonable % ownership, neither too low nor too > high, for a good CANSLIM candidate? > > > > Katherine > > << Datei: ATT00011.htm >> > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email.
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