Re: [CANSLIM] Re: BREL


From: esetser <esetser@covad.net>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: BREL
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 09:31:54 -0800

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Wow, thanks for this little tidbit.  It seems to me that I am in the
minority of the group requiring an absolute minimum of 7 weeks for a base
before even adding a stock to my watch list (5 weeks for a flat base).
However, I've been using that 7 weeks as a total, rather than the base
before the handle.  A quick look at HTMMIS seems to confirm your
interpretation, so thanks for the note!

At 12:45 PM 12/14/01 -0600, you wrote:
>No, the handle is not part of the base. It is a separate consolidation that
>shakes out the last of the weak holders. So that means, BREL has a 5-1/2
>week base and a handle slightly longer than a week.According to WON, its
>duration should be proportional to the length and depth of the base itself.
>
>No, I haven't posted my sell rules because these things are different for
>each person depending on their experience, risk tolerance and goals. I
>started with WON, pared it down, cleared up the fuzzy ones, then added a few
>from my own experience. But I'd say that if a trader doesn't have definitive
>rules that can be written down on a list, emotion will always take over when
>it's time to sell. And *that* is the way most people lose big money!
>
>Katherine
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <camelot.homes@charter.net>
>To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
>Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:40 PM
>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: BREL
>
>
>> katherine, i thought WON included the handle as part of the base. also, if
>i
>> count correctly, with the base starting on 10/26/01, it's 7 weeks long as
>of
>> today, the minimum according to WON for a C&H base. also, have you posted
>> your sell rules? thanks, david
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Katherine Malm" <kmalm@earthlink.net>
>> To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
>> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: BREL
>>
>>
>> > Yes. That would be my read. I think that B. would've considered this
>part
>> of
>> > the cup. But I don't know that for sure without rereading the chapter
>> > closely. The good news is, however, if a stock were to form a high
>handle
>> > where the right lip was higher than the left lip, that would mean the
>> > failure rate out of the pattern drops.
>> >
>> > But all that aside, when I look at the BREL chart, I see the left side
>of
>> > the cup at $24.90 on 10/26. I see the high of the handle at $33.35 on
>12/5
>> > and I see 6 days in the handle and a B/O today. The problem I have is
>that
>> > this makes a cup only 5-1/2 weeks long and that is too short to be
>valid.
>> 7
>> > weeks is minimum. On my sell rule checklist, if a stock near its highs
>> > breaks out of a base
>> > that is too short, it gets the axe.
>> >
>> > Katherine
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: <camelot.homes@charter.net>
>> > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
>> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:52 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: BREL
>> >
>> >
>> > > katherine, i'm sorry i don't really understand your answer. does it
>> > > mean(maybe in your opinion) that since the price is cranking above the
>> > pivot
>> > > that it isn`t really a handle. and BREL might have done that in this
>> case?
>> > > david
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Katherine Malm" <kmalm@earthlink.net>
>> > > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
>> > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:27 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: BREL
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > >>. it looks to me like a
>> > > > > slightly upward handle which kind of concerned me. ...what does
>Mr.
>> B
>> > > > > say about this?
>> > > >
>> > > > You know, off the top of my head, I don't remember that he mentioned
>> > > upward
>> > > > sloping handles. He did say that it didn't matter statistically
>> whether
>> > or
>> > > > not they were downward sloping. So I'm going to guess that he's
>> implying
>> > > > that it shouldn't crank up above the pivot, or it's not really a
>> handle.
>> > > > But, that's just an opinion, not a fact.
>> > > >
>> > > > Katherine
>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > From: <camelot.homes@charter.net>
>> > > > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
>> > > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:09 AM
>> > > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: BREL
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > tim and dave, got into BREL early this morning . it looks to me
>like
>> a
>> > > > > slightly upward handle which kind of concerned me. Katherine what
>> does
>> > > Mr.
>> > > > B
>> > > > > say about this? anyother thoughts from others? Andreas, great
>saying
>> > > from
>> > > > > Goethe. david
>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > From: "Dave" <drubin@i-2000.com>
>> > > > > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
>> > > > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:01 AM
>> > > > > Subject: [CANSLIM] Re: BREL
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Doesn't the upward-sloping handle on BREL concern you?
>> > > > > >
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