Re: [CANSLIM] Point of View: Why bother with fundamentals?


From: Gene Ricci <genr@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Point of View: Why bother with fundamentals?
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:32:12 -0600

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Tom, I spoke with WizeTrade a few minutes ago and they told me that =
fundamentals were required  for position trading (1 - 4 months+). One of =
their most successful position traders selects his  candidates from =
Daily Graphs AFTER they pass the following criteria:

 i.                STOCK PRICE BETWEEN $10 AND $60
ii.            AVERAGE VOLUME >=3D 400,000 shares per day
iii.        TIMELINESS =3D A
iv.            ACCUMULATION =3D A or B
v.                SMR RATING =3D 60-99 or (A/B)*
vi.            GROUP RATING =3D 60-99 or (A/B)*
vii.        RS >=3D 79

* Note: DGO in some reports will grade items as A,B,C etc. and in =
another report will grade the same item numerically. A score of 60-79 =
=3D B and 80-99=3DA. A score of 60 or higher means that it is at least a =
rating of B.

He also uses Stockcharts and MA's to make the final decision as to the =
candidates that move on to WT.

Haven't seen any data that 'tells' me that using fundamentals for =
intermediate or swing trading is bad!!! So ...even if using them is =
nothing more than a placebo, they make me feel good,  so why not =
continue to use them... that's the easiest and most structured part of =
the process.... chart reading by my definition being the most difficult.

K. what have you learned from this banter?

Gene



  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Tom Worley=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 7:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Point of View: Why bother with fundamentals?


  Gene,

  It all depends on whether you have the time and stamina to day trade, =
or you are trying to invest. If the former, go with WizeTrade. If the =
latter, find something that works beyond a few hours or a few days.=20

  I have known a number of day traders over the years, and none used =
fundies, most didn't even know what the company did for business. =
Ignored sector or industry group, earnings (past or future), RS, etc. =
Several didn't even really know how to read a chart, simply relied on =
current momentum. The ones that did it professionally spent upwards of =
10 hours a day in front of their monitor(s). One had 7 different =
monitors and two TVs he tried to watch continuously.

  Tom Worley
  stkguru@netside.net
  AIM: TexWorley

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Gene Ricci=20
    To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
    Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 5:23 PM
    Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Point of View: Why bother with fundamentals?


    K, thanks for the clarification.

    A couple of weeks ago I would have said 'no fundamentals... are you =
kidding me'.=20

    I've had several discussions over the past 2-3 weeks and as recently =
as last Thursday, I was told to think 'out of the box' by a VP at =
WizeTrade. I signed up for their 30-day trial (week ago) and was in his =
office 'showing' him the shortcomings of his system. He showed me a sign =
that said... price is determined by buyers and sellers. He went on to =
say that all I had to do was to look at the Green (buy) and Red (sell) =
indicators.... green means more buyers than sellers and red more sellers =
than buyers. The program has charts.... felt better when I found that =
out.... turns out the charts were just time intervals intraday, day, =
week, month.... the lines on the chart were green and red. When the =
green crossed up over red, time to buy.... when red over green it's time =
to sell.=20

    From WizeTrade home page or links.

     The green line and the red line are summation formulas and not =
price lines or graphs

          "No, WizetradeT is not based on "moving averages." WizetradeT =
uses seven key technical indicators to perform its complex "real-time" =
calculations at the rate of 800-1500 calculations per second. The seven =
key indicators are the previous day's closing price, the current day's =
opening price, high, low, every up tick, every down tick - which are =
then exponentially weighted to volume."=20

    How can this system work, no fundamentals, stochastic, MACD, =
candlesticks, CANSLIM, etc.?? They seem to take pride in buying =
companies that they don't know much about or what the symbol stands =
for.... they do take pride in the fact that their software tells them =
immediately when there are more buyers than sellers, etc. .... BTW, they =
signaled to get out of ENE at 80+.

    I was told that fundamentals were nothing more than a time waster =
and a poor placebo (in a nice way).=20

    I'm interested in learning 'the truth'. Certainly would be nice to =
quit looking at fundamentals and all that research as well as spending =
money on DGO/IBD.... etc. WizeTrade also eliminates the need to track or =
know anything about sector rotation.... their buyers and sellers tell =
them all that.

    Is it possible that I've been wasting my time looking for data to =
support what I call a good company?

    Naw, can't be!

    Guess I'll just have to try to understand how and if their system =
works.... over the holidays.=20

    Disclaimer: I don't work for them and until my trial is over, I'm =
not even a customer.
    Gene
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Katherine Malm=20
      To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
      Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 2:55 PM
      Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Point of View: Why bother with =
fundamentals?


      That would mean any selection criteria that depended on something =
other than price/volume/volatility technical indicators.

      Katherine
        ----- Original Message -----=20
        From: Gene Ricci=20
        To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
        Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 3:14 PM
        Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Point of View: Why bother with =
fundamentals?


        Please define "any sort of fundamental analysis"...=20

        Thanks,
        Gene

          ----- Original Message -----=20
          From: Katherine Malm=20
          To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
          Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 10:12 AM
          Subject: [CANSLIM] Point of View: Why bother with =
fundamentals?


          Proposed:

          If a typical CANSLIM/Intermediate term move in a stock lasts =
only a few weeks, and in good markets, only a few months, why bother =
selecting portfolio candidates using any sort of fundamental analysis? =
Returns in this time period are strictly based on price movement and can =
be maximized based on technical indicators and price/volume action =
alone.

          Thoughts pro/con?

          Katherine

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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Tom, I spoke with WizeTrade&nbsp;a few =
minutes=20
ago and they told me that fundamentals were required &nbsp;for position =
trading=20
(1 - 4 months+). One of their most successful position traders selects =
his=20
&nbsp;candidates from Daily Graphs&nbsp;AFTER they pass the following=20
criteria:</FONT></DIV>
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;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; =
mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New =
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PRICE BETWEEN $10 AND $60</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN=20
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VOLUME &gt;=3D 400,000 shares per day</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D4><SPAN=20
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=3D A</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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=3D A or B</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D4><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; =
mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New =
Roman'">v.<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; =
mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">SMR =

RATING =3D 60-99 or (A/B)*</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D4><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; =
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style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
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;=20
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; =
mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New =
Roman'">GROUP=20
RATING =3D 60-99 or (A/B)*</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D4><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; =
mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New =
Roman'">vii.<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
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</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; =
mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">RS=20
&gt;=3D 79</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; =
mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New =
Roman'"></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>* Note: DGO in some reports will grade items as A,B,C etc. and in =
another=20
report will grade the same item numerically. A score of 60-79 =3D B and =
80-99=3DA. A=20
score of 60 or higher means that it is at least a rating of B.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">He also uses Stockcharts and MA's to =
make the=20
final decision as to the candidates that move on to WT.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Haven't seen any data that 'tells' me =
that using=20
fundamentals for intermediate or swing trading is bad!!! So ...even if =
using=20
them is nothing more than a placebo, they make me feel good, &nbsp;so =
why not=20
continue to use them... that's the easiest and most structured part of =
the=20
process.... chart reading by my definition being the most=20
difficult.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">K. what have you learned from this=20
banter?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Gene</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dstkguru@netside.net href=3D"mailto:stkguru@netside.net">Tom =
Worley</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 16, 2001 =
7:24=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] Point of =
View: Why=20
  bother with fundamentals?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Gene,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>It all depends on whether you have the time and =
stamina to=20
  day trade, or you are trying to invest. If the former, go with =
WizeTrade. If=20
  the latter, find something that works beyond a few hours or a few =
days.=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have known a number of day traders over the =
years, and=20
  none used fundies, most didn't even know what the company did for =
business.=20
  Ignored sector or industry group, earnings (past or future), RS, etc. =
Several=20
  didn't even really know how to read a chart, simply relied on current=20
  momentum. The ones that did it professionally spent upwards of 10 =
hours a day=20
  in front of their monitor(s). One had 7 different monitors and two TVs =
he=20
  tried to watch continuously.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Tom Worley<BR><A=20
  href=3D"mailto:stkguru@netside.net">stkguru@netside.net</A><BR>AIM:=20
  TexWorley<BR></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dgenr@swbell.net href=3D"mailto:genr@swbell.net">Gene =
Ricci</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 16, =
2001 5:23=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] Point =
of View:=20
    Why bother with fundamentals?</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">K, thanks for the=20
clarification.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">A couple of weeks ago I would have =
said 'no=20
    fundamentals... are you kidding&nbsp;me'. </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">I've had several discussions over =
the past=20
    2-3 weeks and as recently as last Thursday, I was told to think 'out =
of the=20
    box' by a&nbsp;VP&nbsp;at WizeTrade.&nbsp;</FONT><FONT=20
    face=3D"Comic Sans MS">I&nbsp;signed up for their&nbsp;30-day =
trial&nbsp;(week=20
    ago) and was in his office 'showing' him the shortcomings of his =
system. He=20
    showed me a sign that said... price is determined by buyers and =
sellers. He=20
    went on to say&nbsp;that all I had to do was to look at the Green =
(buy) and=20
    Red (sell) indicators.... green means more buyers than sellers and =
red more=20
    sellers than buyers. The program has charts.... felt better when I =
found=20
    that out.... turns out the charts were just time intervals intraday, =
day,=20
    week, month.... the lines on the chart were green and red. When the =
green=20
    crossed up over red, time to buy.... when red over green =
it's&nbsp;time to=20
    sell.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">From WizeTrade home page&nbsp;or=20
    links.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;<FONT face=3DArial color=3D#330099 size=3D2><EM>The green =
line and the=20
    red line are summation formulas and not price lines or=20
    graphs</EM></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>
    <TABLE cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D2 width=3D"100%" border=3D0>
      <TBODY>
      <TR vAlign=3Dtop>
        <TD align=3Dleft width=3D"98%"><FONT face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, =
sans-serif"=20
          color=3D#330099 size=3D2><EM>"No, Wizetrade&#8482; is not =
based on "moving=20
          averages." Wizetrade&#8482; uses seven key technical =
indicators to perform=20
          its complex "real-time" calculations at the rate of 800-1500=20
          calculations per second. The seven key indicators are the =
previous=20
          day's closing price, the current day's opening price, high, =
low, every=20
          up tick, every down tick - which are then exponentially =
weighted to=20
          volume."</EM></FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
    <P><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">How can this system work, no =
fundamentals,=20
    stochastic, MACD, candlesticks, CANSLIM, etc.?? They seem to take =
pride in=20
    buying companies that they don't know much about or what the symbol =
stands=20
    for.... they do take pride in the fact that their software tells =
them=20
    immediately&nbsp;when there are more buyers than sellers, etc. .... =
BTW,=20
    they signaled to get out of ENE at 80+.</FONT></P></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">I was told that fundamentals were =
nothing=20
    more than a time waster and a poor placebo (in a nice way). =
</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">I'm interested in =
learning&nbsp;'the truth'.=20
    Certainly would be nice to quit looking at fundamentals and all that =

    research as well as spending money on DGO/IBD.... etc. WizeTrade =
also=20
    eliminates the need to track or know anything about sector =
rotation....=20
    their buyers and sellers tell them all that.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Is it possible that I've been =
wasting my=20
    time looking for data to support what I call a good =
company?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Naw, can't be!</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Guess I'll just have to try to =
understand=20
    how and if their system works.... over the holidays. </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Disclaimer: I don't work for them =
and until=20
    my trial is over, I'm not even a customer.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Gene</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dkmalm@earthlink.net =
href=3D"mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net">Katherine=20
      Malm</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
      title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 16, =
2001 2:55=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Point of View:=20
      Why bother with fundamentals?</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That would mean any selection =
criteria that=20
      depended on something other than price/volume/volatility technical =

      indicators.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Katherine</FONT></DIV>
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        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
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        <DIV=20
        style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
        <A title=3Dgenr@swbell.net href=3D"mailto:genr@swbell.net">Gene =
Ricci</A>=20
        </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
        title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
        </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December =
16, 2001=20
        3:14 PM</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Point of=20
        View: Why bother with fundamentals?</DIV>
        <DIV><BR></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Please define "any sort of =
fundamental=20
        analysis"... </FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Gene</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
        style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
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          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
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          <DIV=20
          style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
          <A title=3Dkmalm@earthlink.net=20
          href=3D"mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net">Katherine Malm</A> </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
          title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
          </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December =
16, 2001=20
          10:12 AM</DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] =
Point of View:=20
          Why bother with fundamentals?</DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Proposed:</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;</DIV></FONT>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If a typical =
CANSLIM/Intermediate term=20
          move in a stock lasts only a few weeks, and in good markets, =
only a=20
          few months, why bother selecting portfolio candidates using =
any sort=20
          of fundamental analysis? Returns in this time period are =
strictly=20
          based on price movement and can be maximized based on =
technical=20
          indicators and price/volume action alone.</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thoughts =
pro/con?</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
        =
size=3D2>Katherine</DIV></FONT></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></B=
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