Re: [CANSLIM] Market


From: "Katherine Malm" <kmalm@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Market
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 10:10:09 -0600

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Andreas,

Good point you're making about the industry strength. I think this is =
the very phenomenon that is causing stocks like SIDE and RYL to pause. =
These are cyclical industries and when high growth stock candidates =
begin to shine, money rotates out of the cyclicals that have completed =
their runs and into the high growth movers. Doesn't mean the SIDE and =
RYL and their brethren will not continue to be highly profitable =
businesses, just means that at some point their cycle slows and the =
EPS/Rev's begin to deteriorate. That's why they're cyclicals, boom and =
bust, back and forth, up and down. Only way to make real money on these =
guys is to buy them at the bottom of the bust cycle, sell them at the =
top of the boom. No real innovation to spur accelerating growth rates as =
their are with real growth stocks and industries.

Katherine
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Andreas Himmelreich=20
  To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:43 AM
  Subject: AW: [CANSLIM] Market


  Because from my point of view there are better waves (Industry Groups) =
to ride right now.

  I sticked to ROOM (in since 4 Weeks), chart looks good and the IG =
looks great.

  TELECOMMUNICATIONS-EQUIP
  COMPUTER SOFTWR-ENTERPSE
  INTERNET-E COMMERCE

  looked stronger to me then the BLDG-CONSTR PRODS/MISC and =
BLDG-RESIDENT/COMMRCL.
  I do not say that  BLDG-CONSTR PRODS/MISC and BLDG-RESIDENT/COMMRCL =
will
  not run up more, but it seems that they are loosing RS (right now). =
Next week that might be different.

  Got into TTIL, UTSI (yesterday), DFXI, FDS, and GAIA this week.
  Besides GAIA all nicely profitable (so far). DFXI I am in since 29.50 =
(not a big gain here) and wait for=20
  the breakout (that hopefully comes).

  I was in GISX the day before yesterday (15.40 !!!!!!) and then was =
chickened out because of the 200% Dept.
  EVERYTHING ELSE WAS JUST PERFECT, DARRRRRRRRNNNN !!!!
  But hey, I choose this stock, so I must have made something right. The =
only thing is,=20
  that I should not put to much to the fundamentals (especially if only =
one criteria out of a lot looks not so good).
  I even had a very tight SL (at 14.50) and this one would have not =
touched.
  I did everything right besides the chicken thing. I will work on it =
....

  See you

  Andreas



  > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
  > Von: Tom Worley [SMTP:stkguru@netside.net]
  > Gesendet am: Friday, January 04, 2002 3:10 PM
  > An: canslim@lists.xmission.com
  > Betreff: Re: [CANSLIM] Market
  >=20
  > Andreas,
  >=20
  > Curious why you kicked out RYL and SIDE, since both appear to be =
winners and
  > worth holding, IMO.
  >=20
  > Tom Worley
  > stkguru@netside.net
  > AIM: TexWorley
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: "Andreas Himmelreich" <judgejimmy@web.de>
  > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
  > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:04 AM
  > Subject: AW: [CANSLIM] Market
  >=20
  >=20
  > > I would go out very fast, not only a failed breakout and a retrace =
to the
  > base but on
  > > very high volumne. The latest I would sell if it falls below 19.50 =
...
  > >
  > > I kicked out RYL last week and Side yesterday, since other =
industries
  > > seem to come up.
  > >
  > > > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
  > > > Von: Dan Forant [SMTP:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]
  > > > Gesendet am: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:00 AM
  > > > An: canslim@lists.xmission.com
  > > > Betreff: Re: [CANSLIM] Market
  > > >
  > > > I'm still holding onto AAON. Took off well but looks like a =
collapse
  > like
  > > > many BO's lately.
  > > >
  > > > DanF
  > > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > > From: "Andreas Himmelreich" <judgejimmy@web.de>
  > > > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
  > > > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 5:39 AM
  > > > Subject: [CANSLIM] Market
  > > >
  > > >
  > > > > Very Strange Day Yesterday!
  > > > >
  > > > > Big Caps rally, smal caps lag and do not react at all.
  > > > > Almost all Industry Groups that did good the last weeks had a =
losing
  > day
  > > > and the other way around.
  > > > > Leading stocks did not behaive like they did the last weeks, =
even some
  > > > failed BOs (AAON).
  > > > >
  > > > > Opinions?
  > > > >
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<DIV>Andreas,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Good point you're making about the industry strength. I think this =
is the=20
very phenomenon that is causing stocks like SIDE and RYL to pause. These =
are=20
cyclical industries and when high growth stock candidates begin to =
shine, money=20
rotates out of the cyclicals that have completed their runs and into the =
high=20
growth movers. Doesn't mean the SIDE and RYL and their brethren will not =

continue to be highly profitable businesses, just means that at some =
point their=20
cycle slows and the EPS/Rev's begin to deteriorate. That's why they're=20
cyclicals, boom and bust, back and forth, up and down. Only way to make =
real=20
money on these guys is to buy them at the bottom of the bust cycle, sell =
them at=20
the top of the boom. No real innovation to spur accelerating growth =
rates as=20
their are with real growth stocks and industries.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Katherine</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Djudgejimmy@web.de href=3D"mailto:judgejimmy@web.de">Andreas =

  Himmelreich</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:'canslim@lists.xmission.com'">'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=
</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 04, 2002 =
9:43=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> AW: [CANSLIM] =
Market</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Because from my point of view there are better waves =
(Industry=20
  Groups) to ride right now.<BR><BR>I sticked to ROOM (in since 4 =
Weeks), chart=20
  looks good and the IG looks =
great.<BR><BR>TELECOMMUNICATIONS-EQUIP<BR>COMPUTER=20
  SOFTWR-ENTERPSE<BR>INTERNET-E COMMERCE<BR><BR>looked stronger to me =
then the=20
  BLDG-CONSTR PRODS/MISC and BLDG-RESIDENT/COMMRCL.<BR>I do not say =
that&nbsp;=20
  BLDG-CONSTR PRODS/MISC and BLDG-RESIDENT/COMMRCL will<BR>not run up =
more, but=20
  it seems that they are loosing RS (right now). Next week that might be =

  different.<BR><BR>Got into TTIL, UTSI (yesterday), DFXI, FDS, and GAIA =
this=20
  week.<BR>Besides GAIA all nicely profitable (so far). DFXI I am in =
since 29.50=20
  (not a big gain here) and wait for <BR>the breakout (that hopefully=20
  comes).<BR><BR>I was in GISX the day before yesterday (15.40 !!!!!!) =
and then=20
  was chickened out because of the 200% Dept.<BR>EVERYTHING ELSE WAS =
JUST=20
  PERFECT, DARRRRRRRRNNNN !!!!<BR>But hey, I choose this stock, so I =
must have=20
  made something right. The only thing is, <BR>that I should not put to =
much to=20
  the fundamentals (especially if only one criteria out of a lot looks =
not so=20
  good).<BR>I even had a very tight SL (at 14.50) and this one would =
have not=20
  touched.<BR>I did everything right besides the chicken thing. I will =
work on=20
  it ....<BR><BR>See you<BR><BR>Andreas<BR><BR><BR><BR>&gt; =
- -----Ursprungliche=20
  Nachricht-----<BR>&gt; Von: Tom Worley =
[SMTP:stkguru@netside.net]<BR>&gt;=20
  Gesendet am: Friday, January 04, 2002 3:10 PM<BR>&gt; An: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>&gt;=20
  Betreff: Re: [CANSLIM] Market<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Andreas,<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt;=20
  Curious why you kicked out RYL and SIDE, since both appear to be =
winners=20
  and<BR>&gt; worth holding, IMO.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Tom Worley<BR>&gt; <A =

  href=3D"mailto:stkguru@netside.net">stkguru@netside.net</A><BR>&gt; =
AIM:=20
  TexWorley<BR>&gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; From: "Andreas=20
  Himmelreich" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:judgejimmy@web.de">judgejimmy@web.de</A>&gt;<BR>&gt; =
To: &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:04 AM<BR>&gt; Subject: AW: [CANSLIM]=20
  Market<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; I would go out very fast, not =
only a=20
  failed breakout and a retrace to the<BR>&gt; base but on<BR>&gt; &gt; =
very=20
  high volumne. The latest I would sell if it falls below 19.50 =
...<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; I kicked out RYL last week and Side yesterday, since =
other=20
  industries<BR>&gt; &gt; seem to come up.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
  -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Von: Dan Forant=20
  [SMTP:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Gesendet am: Friday, =
January=20
  04, 2002 2:00 AM<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; An: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; &gt; Betreff: Re: [CANSLIM] Market<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
  I'm still holding onto AAON. Took off well but looks like a =
collapse<BR>&gt;=20
  like<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; many BO's lately.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt; &gt;=20
  DanF<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
From:=20
  "Andreas Himmelreich" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:judgejimmy@web.de">judgejimmy@web.de</A>&gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt; &gt;=20
  To: &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; &gt; Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 5:39 AM<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
Subject:=20
  [CANSLIM] Market<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
  Very Strange Day Yesterday!<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt; Big=20
  Caps rally, smal caps lag and do not react at all.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
  Almost all Industry Groups that did good the last weeks had a =
losing<BR>&gt;=20
  day<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; and the other way around.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
Leading=20
  stocks did not behaive like they did the last weeks, even some<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
  &gt; failed BOs (AAON).<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;=20
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